Luke Vargas (2:52)

Worried about in Terms of the economic side of this, I mean, are we expecting mining companies to be showing up in Ukraine right away? I mean, the war is still going on. I'm guessing this is kind of a long term thing.

Jane Litvinenko (3:02)

Whether businesses will show up and when businesses will show up is still an open question. From the Ukrainian side, there's even an open question in terms of what minerals it has and how many minerals it has. So this deal, as far as we know, is going to focus on new licenses, not existing licenses to mine minerals in Ukraine. Mineral mining is a really complex project, but Ukraine does have a lot of those crucial minerals that are key in the global markets right now to everything from making cell phones to making vehicles, to making batteries. And so will American companies move into Ukraine tomorrow? It's unlikely. But there is a reason why this was such a potentially lucrative deal for the US and the reason for that is because the minerals are quite vast.

Luke Vargas (3:54)

This deal had in the past raised a lot of questions about the state of the relationship between Kyiv and Washington. We did hear from Treasury Secretary Scott Besant last night talking about this deal. I want to play a clip of him, which I was somewhat telling. Today's agreement signals clearly to Russian leadership that the Trump administration is committed to a peace process centered on a free, sovereign and prosperous Ukraine over the long term. Jane, what are you hearing there? Is the US Shifting pressure away from Kyiv and toward Moscow?

Jane Litvinenko (4:26)

Well, what this shows is the Ukrainian American relationship has gone a long way from the blow up in the White House to now these positive words and the meeting in the Vatican. It seems like there's been a real thaw in relations between the US And Ukraine. Whether Russia will hear the message that Washington is trying to send. That now it's time for them to make a deal is of course an open question. But the announcement of this deal is a diplomatic victory for Ukraine.

Luke Vargas (4:59)

Reporter Jane Litvinenko is in Kyiv. Jane, thank you so much for the update.

Jane Litvinenko (5:03)

Thank you for having me.

Luke Vargas (5:08)

Meanwhile, we exclusively report that the US Is planning to massively increase its use of drones by equipping each of its 10 active duty combat divisions with around 1,000 drones each. Journal national security correspondent Michael Gordon told us that the plan draws on lessons learned in Ukraine, where unmanned aircraft have transformed the battlefield.

Michael Gordon (5:29)

This is a major departure for the service. Right now a traditional army division might have a dozen or so long range surveillance drones. Now what it wants to do is outfit a division at all levels with drones for reconnaissance, for striking targets, and for carrying equipment. This is a five year plan which the army estimates will cost about $36 billion. They've got the administration on board and they've identified offsetting cuts. They want to retire some of their older systems and forego the purchase of new ones in order to come up with sufficient funds to pursue this initiative without asking for an increase in the army budget.

Luke Vargas (6:09)

Coming up. We've got the rest of the day's news, including succession planning at Tesla and why tariff related economic distortions are only just beginning. Those stories and more after the break.

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Jane Litvinenko (7:00)

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Luke Vargas (7:00)

Are exclusively reporting that Tesla's board began looking for a new CEO to replace Elon Musk about a month ago ago. The company had been contending with deteriorating sales and profits and Musk spending much of his time in Washington. Around that time, board members told Musk he needed to spend more time on Tesla and needed to say so publicly, according to people familiar with the meeting. Last week, after the company said its first quarter profit had plunged 71%, Musk told investors he would soon pivot back to his job at Tesla. The current status of the succession planning couldn't be determined. It's also unclear if Musk was aware of the effort or if his pledge to spend more time at Tesla has affected succession planning. Musk didn't respond to requests for comment for the story. A federal judge has slammed Apple for willfully violating her order to make it easier for app developers to sell digital products like games and subscriptions. In 2021, Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers ordered Apple to let developers sen customers to their own websites to avoid a 30% commission for in app purchases, and in response, Apple required developers who use an alternative payment method to pay a different 27% fee. However, Rogers ruled yesterday that fee amounted to anti competitive conduct and referred the matter to federal prosecutors for a criminal contempt investigation. While Apple said it disagrees with the ruling and will appeal, it is complying with the order, meaning iPhone users could soon be able to save money if, as tech reporter Rolf Winkler explains, they're willing to work a little.

Rolf Winkler (8:41)

Netflix does this, for instance. You can't actually buy a subscription in the Apple App Store from Netflix. You buy it on Netflix's website and then use your login to access the subscription in the Netflix iPhone app. That saves Netflix the huge 30% commission that Apple charges on App Store purchases. Now Netflix is huge, and people know and trust its website. For the thousands and thousands of other app developers, it might be hard to get consumers to go to a website instead of just clicking Buy in the App Store. But now Apple can't deliberately make this hard for people, so expect lots of developers to start offering cheaper options to buy their products via their own websites.

Luke Vargas (9:22)

Turning to trade now A bid to reject Trump's Liberation Day Tariffs fell short in the Senate yesterday as most Republicans stayed aligned with the White House in spite of growing concerns about the economy. The measure championed by Republican Senator Rand Paul looked to repeal America's broad 10 tariffs on most nations, as well as the higher tariffs on China and other bad actors, by ending the emergency declaration that Trump used to impose the levies. The administration has argued that persistent trade deficits constitute an emergency under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act. Meanwhile, the economic impact of Trump's trade policies is becoming increasingly apparent, with the bank of Japan halving its growth forecasts this morning, saying that it expects Japan's economy to expand just 0.5% in the fiscal year ending 2026, sharply lower than the previous 1.1% forecast. At the same time, South Korea's exports rose unexpectedly in April in spite of concerns over tariffs. Shipments of computer chips and smartphones remained strong, offsetting the decline in auto exports, which took a hit from Trump's levies. And with everyone from the tech industry to toy shops rushing to get goods into the US Ahead of tariffs, it's leading to a distortion in as we reported yesterday, U.S. imports surged more than 40% at an annualized rate in the first quarter, driving down gross domestic product by 0.3%. Internal markets reporter Chelsea Delaney told us import frontloading isn't over yet.

Chelsea Delaney (11:00)

There's obviously a lot of negotiations happening right now between the White House and other countries, so it's a bit hard to know exactly what the tariffs could be. But companies aren't taking any chances. They see this as an insurance policy. They want to get it to the US Potentially avoid some of those tariffs. This will eventually stop. There is very wide consensus that these tariffs are going to eventually lead to global trade volumes falling. This will be negative for a lot of other economies and for the US Economy, but for now, this is still driving a lot of activity in places like Europe and Asia that were expected to get hit really hard by the tariffs.

Luke Vargas (11:41)

And that's it for what's news for this Thursday morning. Today's show was produced by Kate Bullivant. Our supervising producer is Sandra Kilhoff. And I'm Luke Vargas for the Wall Street Journal. We will be back tonight with a new show. Until then, thanks for listening.