
A new study finds workers save more for retirement when they're persuaded to by their employers. The Wall Street Journal's Francesca Fontana tells us about the experiment involving older workers at North Carolina's retirement division.
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Welcome to youo Money Matters. I'm Charlie Turner in New York. If you think that you're not saving enough for retirement, it may not be totally your fault. The Wall Street Journal says there is new evidence that employers can help persuade even their most stubborn employees to save more for retirement. That's good news because as we'll the amount that American households have saved up for retirement on average is shockingly low. Joining us is the Wall Street Journal's Francesca Fontana. So, Francesca, this was a study involving the state of North Carolina's retirement division. Why don't you tell us about it?
Francesca Fontana
Absolutely. In 2014, some scholars at North Carolina State University did an experiment where they had the state of North Carolina's retirement division send nudges, is what they called them, to older public employees who were taking part in supplemental savings programs or plans. And they found that these workers who were more likely to reassess their saving strategies or increase their contributions to their retirement fund if they received the nudge.
Charlie Turner
All right. Now how much more likely were they apt to change their contributions? Were there numbers put to this?
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Yeah.
Francesca Fontana
Results showed that workers who received the emails were more likely to change their contributions, increasing them at a rate of 2.8% in the short term compared to 1.8% of the control group. So it was a small but significant change.
Charlie Turner
So I notice you wrote as well that research builds on earlier studies showing that nudges or encouragement can change people's behaviors, such as helping patients manage chronic diseases.
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Francesca Fontana
Yeah. So these nudges are basically seen in behavioral economics as a way to, as the term suggests, nudge someone in a certain direction. So this sort of indirect way to lead someone to a certain action or to change their behavior. So in this case, they wanted employees to take another look and see whether they were saving as much as financial experts say people should because data shows that Americans are less prepared for retirement than they were in the past.
Charlie Turner
I'm speaking with Francesca Fontana of the Wall Street Journal, and you're Listening to youo Money Matters. Thanks for listening, everyone. Francesca, this experiment, it was conducted a couple years ago. How many, how many people did it involve?
Francesca Fontana
The sample was of 14,710 workers for the state of North Carolina, 50 through 69 years old. They targeted this demographic of older workers because they're seen set in their ways and harder to nudge toward a specific behavior.
Charlie Turner
Your story also mentions, I believe, the median amount of money that people have saved up for retirement. And the numbers were absolute stunners to me. Why don't you tell me what they are?
Francesca Fontana
Yeah. The median retirement account balance for all working age households in America today is only $3,000. And for near retirement households, it's not much more. It's $12,000. And financial experts to save, you know, eight to 11 times their annual income to maintain their standard of living in retirement. So there's obviously a really big difference between what people are telling workers to do and what they're actually doing.
Charlie Turner
Sounds like workers need a lot of encouragement.
Francesca Fontana
Yes.
Charlie Turner
Wall Street Journal reporter Francesca Fontana. Thank you very much for joining us.
Francesca Fontana
Thank you.
Charlie Turner
And that's your Money Matters. I'm Charlie Turner at the Wall Street Journal.
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Date: August 30, 2017
Host: Charlie Turner
Guest: Francesca Fontana (Wall Street Journal)
This episode explores how simple "nudges" from employers can significantly increase employees' retirement savings. Drawing on recent research involving North Carolina public employees, the discussion highlights America's staggering lack of retirement savings and the effectiveness of behavioral interventions in encouraging better financial decisions.
The episode shines a light on America's looming retirement savings shortfall and suggests that simple, targeted behavioral interventions ("nudges") by employers can produce measurable improvements—even among harder-to-motivate, older employees. While the increase may seem modest, it's significant given the scale of the issue and the inertia prevalent in retirement savings behaviors. The discussion stresses the importance of ongoing encouragement and the need for greater awareness about the realities of retirement preparation.