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I went up to Sacramento in Napa at Sacramento Friday night and I, you know, I flew up there. Allie Nikovsky came with me and she opened. But I was, you know, in shock and traumatized and fucked up and I had to move through it. And I did it on stage for an audience that was incredibly supportive and understanding and understood what was happening in the world, the world of their state, Los Angeles. People had friends, family there, here, and it was kind of an epic experience for me to move through my feelings in real Time, which is really what I do. And I had not done an hour in a while. And that was an incredible, incredible night. And then we went to Napa. We did a show in Napa. That audience was difficult. It was tricky. I had a couple of outbursts. Not outbursts. One was supportive. Woman needed to give me a gift, and she needed to do that in the middle of the show and tell me how much she loved me. And she gave me her little knitted cat and her brass Ganesh, which is actually very nice. But it was. It was interesting when that happens, and I could handle it. And then we had a drunk woman who was yelling, and that had to be dealt with. So it was a lot of up and down and me still being in a fairly fucked up, traumatized, vulnerable place and wanting to do the material that requires a certain presence of openness. It was hard to kind of wrangle the anger in when, you know, people are disruptive or, you know, it's disjointed. But, you know, that's the nature of comedy. And we did okay today on the show. I've got Richard Gad here. He's the writer, actor, comedian, and the creator of the Netflix series Baby Reindeer, which had a profound effect on me. I don't know if you've seen it, but to me it was deep and it was courageous and it was fucked up and amazing. He won three Emmys for the show, and his performance is nominated for a Screen Actors Guild Award. And I'll give you a little more preface to him in a minute, hopefully. I'll be in Fort Collins, Colorado, at the Lincoln Center Performance hall on Friday, January 17th. This Friday, Boulder, at the Boulder Theater on January 18th. I'll be in Santa Barbara, California, at the Lobero Theater on Thursday, the 30th. San Luis Obispo, California, at Fremont center on the Friday, the 31st. Monterey, California, at the Golden State Theater on Saturday, the 1st, Iowa City at the Englert Theater on February 13th. It's a Thursday. Des Moines, Iowa, at the Hoyt Sherman place on Friday, February 14, and Kansas City, Missouri at the Midland Theater on Saturday, February 15. And then I'll be doing shows in North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Texas, South Carolina, Illinois, Michigan. You can go to wtfpod.com tour for all of my dates and links to tickets. Knowing what to do in the face of what's happening, it's. It's difficult. It's been a stressful and terrible few days out here. These fires are ongoing, they're terrifying. And I'm I am lucky. As of, of this moment, I'm safe. As I said, the animals are safe. Kid is safe. Kids, animals are safe. Many people have lost everything. And it's, it's just incomprehensible and tragic and, and it's, it's heartbreaking. But it was always a possibility out here. It, it's just, it's just fucking devastating. And I just, I feel awful for so many people that are dealing with the destruction of their entire lives. Entire communities were decimated. It looks like a nuclear bomb went off in some parts of LA county. And quite honestly, having been there, it feels a little bit like post 911 here in terms of the collective trauma that people are moving through. There was always the possibility of this. It was part of the, the devil's bargain you exist with to live in this city. Earthquakes, fires. Some part of you was in enough denial or blind faith to just accept it and hope for the best. Those days are fucking over, man. It just seems that if you are a rational person, you would move as quickly as possible from this fucking city. And I imagine many will. And I am making plans. I mean, fuck it, this has always been possible and it's fucking time to go. It's unsustainable. I mean, checking the app for fires every few minutes. And then I realized while doing that, that this feeling of needing to check to see if you are in the path of destruction over and over, that it's going to be a lot like checking your newsfeed after January 20th. Where's the fire? What has he done? Am I safe? Can I live my life freely without overwhelming fear? I really don't know how I will manage in that much fear. I am sorry about the heaviness. I'm sorry about the heaviness of what I'm talking about, okay? But when it comes to weight loss, there's no one size fits all approach. You all have individual needs and goals. Maybe you have some dietary restrictions or medical issues. 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You know, they bounce back pretty quickly. You know, they just, and they were okay in the hotel room. You know, I really think, you know, when we self evacuated that one night and I put him in the bathroom, you know, chart and then they all started running around the hotel room and well, you know, within an hour I think Charlie could have lived there. He was like, this is okay. I'm okay. Manageable space. You're here. It. This is where we are now. Sammy the was kind of, he came out too into the room and he's like, I don't know where I am, but Charlie's here. And Buster, the intelligent one, the sensitive one, he wedged himself under the bed. But you know, that's the way cats are and that's, you know, it's amazing how attached I am to those cats in these crisis. And now they all have their own carrier for quick transport in the case of fleeing. But you know, you get attached to these animals and I, you know, I've always been amazed at how much my life revolves around them. And I, I don't think that's sad. I think that's just, you know, the way I love the things that I am capable of loving without fear. I mean, I remember when I was divorced, I really, you know, I thought like, maybe I just better move into apartment and let this old house go. The old house. I remember thinking like, I can't do that because, you know, Boomer lives outside and what the hell is he going to do? So I'll just suck it up and take the hit because my outdoor cat would be displaced. Those times have changed. Displacement seems a certainty now. This episode is sponsored by Squarespace. If you're new to Squarespace, I've got good news. You're getting the best version of Squarespace that's ever been when you start using it today. Squarespace has always been the best platform to create your online presence. But now Squarespace is even better thanks to cutting edge AI technology that makes building your site even easier with better results. 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And there is a point during the interview where, you know, we get a, an emergency evacuation alert, which turned out to have gone out to too many people. It was not about my neighborhood, but it happened. And you can sort of feel that moment of, of, you know, what are we, what are we doing? Are we leaving? Is it over? Are we, what are we doing? And a couple of things I should set up for this. So in the conversation, you know, we talk about he did a couple of stage shows at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival that were the kind of the basis of Baby Reindeer. And if you haven't seen it, I just want to, you know, in terms of reference here, you know, the Baby Reindeer series was based on a couple of different shows, things from a couple of different shows that Richard did, one being Monkey See Monkey Do. And that was about the, the sexual abuse that he was victim to as an adult by a person in, in the business. And he was drugged and, and abused sexually. And that was from Monkey See Monkey Do. And then there was another show that was actually called Baby Reindeer, which centered around a person who, who wound up stalking him. And, you know, there, there, there's a lot of things going on with that. When he says there are things he can't talk about, it's because Netflix is currently being sued by a woman who alleges that she was the one being depicted in the show. And that is ongoing. But this was an honest and, you know, connected talk. And it's heavy. I mean, it may be triggering for some people in terms of sexual abuse or stalking, but I think it's handled personally and with a certain amount of process. You know, it's grounded. Richard is Also nominated for outstanding performance by a male actor in a miniseries or television movie at the Screen Actors Guild Awards. And I didn't know anything about him, and I actually thought he was a bit older than he was, and I didn't really know the nature of his theatrical work or his standup work. So, you know, it was interesting to talk about that. This is me talking to Richard Gad. I've been in LA this time. Time, you know, for a while, but I was in New York and I was in Boston, San Francisco, a lot of different places. Chasing the dream.
