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Today on the show, I talk to Chris Hayes. He's the host of all in with Chris Hayes on MSNBC. He was actually on the show 10 years ago in what was obviously a much different world. Obama had just been in my garage and Donald Trump had just declared his candidacy for president. Wow. That feels like a million years ago. Or maybe just almost 10. So Chris has a new book out called the Sirens Call and it's about a lot of the stuff I talk about all the time. Attention, information media, our relationships with our phones. And it's very thorough and very well researched and very well thought out and informative and it's specific about that. The evolving relationship with technology of any kind and how it fucks with our brains. Fucks with our brains. Fucks with our brains. Who are we to think who are we to think that we can out think that thing in our hand? Seriously, what hubris. To think we have any control other than to turn it off of that thing in our hand. That big brained motherfucker in our hand that we look at every day and volunteer for a good brain fucking. What are you doing? Today I'm gonna let my phone just discombobulate my entire brain. Sense of self, hope, spiritual foundation, whatever. Just let it disassemble my brain within seconds, milliseconds. Turn that thing on, pop it open, boom. You've surrendered into the never ending churn of garbage. Yeah, but it knows which garbage to dump into your head. That's a whole other thing, right? Look, I'll be in Oklahoma City at the Tower theater on Thursday, March 6. Dallas, I'm at the Majestic Theater Friday, March 7. Houston at the White Oak Music Hall Saturday, March 8. And San Antonio at the Empire Theater on Sunday, March 9. Before I head to south by Southwest. A lot of other dates coming up. Durham, North Carolina. I'm at the Carolina Theater of Durham on Friday, March 21st. I'll be in Charlotte, North Carolina at the Knight Theater on Saturday, March 22nd. And Charleston, South Carolina. I'm at the Charleston Music hall on Sunday, March 23rd. Then I'm coming to Illinois, Michigan, Toronto, Vermont, New Hampshire and New York City for the special taping, my special taping. Go to wtfpod.com tour for all my dates and links to tickets. Also, hey, new cat mugs from Brian R. Jones go on sale today at noon Eastern. These are the handmade mugs you get if you're a guest on wtf. This new batch is available today starting at noon Eastern. And they usually sell out pretty fast. Go to wtfmugs Co at noon Eastern today. But a lot of times I wonder and it's sort of relevant to the conversation I had with Chris Hayes. You know how much of that stuff. Because there is the idea that the information you get when you look at your phone, depending on your algorithm or what you gravitate to, that there is a truth to reinforcing whatever it is. And this is how they market to you. As well? What is your disposition? What is your psychological disposition? What do you gravitate towards repeatedly? And is it something that just accentuates or amplifies your specific state of dread? Or does it reaffirm your terror? Does it make you depressed? And then I think on a deeper level, you gotta ask, is that my comfort zone? Is that my home base is being panicky for dread, depressed, and do I need to amplify that? Because on some level, if you are powerless over something, then what's the point of filling your head with it? You know, you want to keep up, but, you know, is there a way to get a breather and is that breather really a breather? Or is it just sort of like taking a little break from beating the shit out of your brain again? Yeah. And how do you do that? You can jump around on your phone. I don't know. Like, I, I wrestle with this stuff all the time because I'm. I'm as compulsive as the next guy about my engagement with my phone and information. But I, I think I'm kind of limited. I. I think I tend to. I tend to. I don't know if my algorithm is correct. I don't know if I'm on it enough or if I'm doing it right. It shifts sometimes. Gotta be careful what you watch too long because then you get a lot of that. I understand that. And then there are things that's, like, I don't understand this at all. And then I realized that, like, I think everybody's getting it. I do my share of, you know, cat, you know, kitty rescues and stuff. But then I, like, I, I spent like a minute. I spent like over a minute, you know, just watching a drain unclog itself. And it was very satisfying. And I didn't think it was wasted time. And then all of a sudden I'm getting these, like. I gotta be honest with you, I'm pretty confident at this point in my life that I could pretty. I could, I could identify an abscess in a horse's hoof. I, I don't, I didn't ask for that stuff. There was no, nothing I did that would, I think, instigate these videos of horses hooves. But I think if I saw a guy on the side of the road and he's standing there with a horse with his foot up, I could be like, want me to take a look at that? Yep. Yeah, it's abscessed. You got one of them, you got one of them curly knives. Because I could probably trim this up, but I don't know how to put a shoe on because they always cut off at that point. But that's just the kind of thing, like, why is it entertaining? I don't know, cleaning things, cleaning metal objects, rust and whatnot. I can't answer you, but I can't answer the question why. This stuff is engaging. But I do talk to Chris about it, and it is just sort of like a dopamine thing. Whether that dopamine is going to give you a blast of dread or a blast of sort of like satisfied customer. Man, all that stuff just came out of that pipe, man. We do the pipe riff. Chris and I do the pipe riff. I'm sure many of you have heard of obsessive compulsive disorder or ocd. You might think it has something to do with being extra clean and organized, but it's a very serious condition for so many who have it. OCD can paralyze people with fear and anxiety. They can constantly have thoughts they don't want to have, and all their energy is spent on making those thoughts go away. Those are just some of the things about OCD you might not realize. And a lot of people don't know they have it, feel shame about their symptoms, and suffer in silence. And not every therapist understands OCD or is qualified to treat it effectively, which can make it difficult to find the right help. But OCD is highly treatable with a specialized type of therapy called erp, or Exposure and Response Prevention. With no cd, you can do live virtual ERP therapy with licensed therapists who specialize in ocd. These are high, highly trained therapists who accept insurance and make treating your OCD more affordable. In fact, no CD therapy is covered by insurance for over 155 million Americans. If you relate to any of this, or if you want to help a loved one who's struggling, you can learn more by booking a free 15 minute call with no CD. Just go to nocd.com to schedule your free call and get connected with someone who can help. That's nocd.com yeah, I think I gotta do that. I think I still haven't gone to get evaluated for adhd, which some people seem to think that I have. But I don't know. You know, I'm mixing it up. You know, I get things done. I get, you know, I can. I can do a lot of things at once. Is that it? Am I doing it anyway? Okay, Chris Hayes is here. He's got this new book which talks about some of the stuff I just Talked about. Which talks about our sort of codependent or obsessive relationship with the brain fuck device that we all rely on to keep us engaged with what? I don't know, shiny infinite garbage. But the new book is called the Sirens. How Attention Became the World's Most Endangered Resource. You can get it wherever you get books. All in with Chris Hayes airs Tuesdays through Fridays at 8pm Eastern on MSNBC. And a note. We recorded this a few weeks ago before the changes to MSNBC's programming lineup. So none of those came up. Okay, okay. This is me talking to Chris Hayes, mostly about his book. Jennifer Coolidge and Ed Harris lead an all star cast in Riff Raff, a new revenge comedy that you can see only in theaters. It's a darkly hilarious story of a retired hitman whose quiet life is turned upside down when his ex wife and son show up on the run from his former criminal associates. Deadline calls Riff Raff an unexpected gem that's wildly entertaining and laugh out loud funny. And film threat says Bill Murray is magnetic as a somewhat philosophical and aging gangster. Riff Raff opens Feb. 28 and is rated R. So look, Chris, we're in trouble, buddy. And I read your book like I read all these books, the ones that I do read.