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A live one back in 2009, a full talk in 2010, a short talk in 2016. And now it's time to regroup. So many people I've known for so long. She's got a Netflix special coming out this week called Sarah Silverman Postmortem. So I will chat with her about that. A little bit of grief talk, a Little bit of Jew talk. All right. But anyway, over the weekend, we. We shot some promos for the Bad Guys two, which I guess I think opens in August. The movie's going to be good, if you like that kind of animation stuff. This thing. This thing moves. It's got a good clip to it. But we were over at Universal. It's me and Rockwell, Natasha Leone, Zazzy Bates, Anthony Ramos, Danielle Brooks, Maria Bakalova. We were all there. Naquafina Nora, Craig Robinson, too, for a day or two. And we're shooting all these silly little pieces for this and that. And Rockwell's like, we got. Let's go on a ride. Let's go on a ride. We're right here. It's a Universal theme parks right there. And I'm like, all right, let's go. They couldn't make it happen the first day, and then yesterday they made it happen. And I don't know, you know, I felt pretty excited about it. And I forget that, you know, I'm not a huge ride guy. I can live without it. But we were in it, and I was in it, and I was like, let's do it. They walked us through a back door into the park so we could go on the Mummy ride. And somehow in my mind, I thought, like, yeah, man, I kind of like roller coasters. And I don't. I don't know where that came from. I had a wife who was very into roller coasters, so I did some roller coaster riding when I was with Mishnah. You know, I remember being excited that I did it, that I got through it, and that, you know, it was exciting enough, but somehow that switched in my head over decades to. No, I like roller coasters. So it's not even that much of a roller coaster. It's. It's. It's just a. It's just a lot of jerking around, and it's fast. But turns out, I don't love it. I don't. I don't love it. I. You know, it was me, Natasha, Leon, and Rockwell went on the Mummy ride. And, yeah, I got off, and there was one drop in there where, you know, it made me queasy for the rest of the goddamn day. Like, I didn't even see it coming. I'm not like, a guy who gets sick of things, but, boy, there's one drop there, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm. I'm sweaty now, and it jerks you around a bit. I got a little nervous. Like, there was the first jerk. I'm like, should I loosen my body? Should I tighten it? Am I gonna. Am I gonna get hurt in here? Am I gonna sprain a neck? Mine, but it goes so quick, and then you come up on a wall really fast, and then it goes backwards. And, you know, Natasha was like, we. I think we should be doing this every morning. And there was part of me that thought, like, yeah, I guess I feel. I don't know, engaged, but not great. Can't. I. Can't. I. I'm. I think it's a good ride. I just don't know. I don't know if it's for me, because I can feel jerked around and nauseous, you know, just moving through my day. It's usually mental. I get mentally jerked around. I hit walls all the time. I go backwards. I go side to side. The bottom falls out on me every day. But it's all internal, so I'm glad we did it. Seems like a fun ride. I just think that at age 61 here, I can say with a certain amount of confidence that I don't need to go on another roller coaster. I remember going on, going to Coney island and riding that old rickety fucking Cyclone. And that's a very specific thing. It's a small roller coaster, but there's something about it. Just maybe because it's old, I don't know. It's a very manageable roller coaster, but your fucking body is sore afterwards. And I don't know how much research they put into this, but there was something about that old Cyclone where you got a little nervous that it would fall off the rails, and you could just feel the woodenness of it and the kind of looseness of the. Of the wheels on the old rails and the way it jerks you around. Doesn't seem smooth or on purpose like the. This one. The mummy was clearly all intentional. They got to really pack it in because the ride lasts about 40 seconds and. But, yeah, not for me. I. I don't know why I feel like declaring that, but I'm saying it here. I'm saying it out loud. I may be done with roller coasters, but I think if you like the roller coaster situation, you'll enjoy it. I don't even need to plug it. Still a little queasy was yesterday. Think about what you can accomplish in three to six months. You could pick up a new hobby and get okay at it. If you really work on it every day, you could do about half of your New Year's resolution. 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There's things I just don't know about life, folks. So I, you know, I shot the special week and a half ago and there was part of me that was kind of like, oh, I'm gonna take a little time, man. Gonna get off, get off the road, take a break from comedy. But needless to say, I was back at the Comedy Store last weekend and I don't know, you know, something happened, something happened. I in the special. Well, you guys have known me a long time. There's always some part of Me, before I go on stage at a comedy club where it's not my show, but a show, there's some part of me that thinks I don't know how to do it, or that I haven't been doing it all my life, or that somehow or another I'm just not gonna do well, or that the audience is not gonna like me. It just never goes away, and it's so annoying. And I think, again, what I was talking about the last week, about this medicine I'm on, giving me a little space to assess these old patterns, these psychological habits. It's interesting. The ones that are just totally unfounded and kind of just a anxious habit that I do to continue to be an anxiety. So I don't ever give myself a break. But the other night, the store, it was packed, man. It was packed. Both rooms were packed. The place is great. It's always great. It's a fucking comedy store. And I went back because it's part of my social life. I, you know, I like to see other comics. I like to, you know, ground myself at the store. I feel part of that place. It's part of my community. But it was interesting because I was backstage in the main room and they. They were doing it differently. It was one continuous show. Like the original room where it's just like 15 acts. 12 or 15 acts. I had a 9 o' clock spot that usually starts at like 8. So I'm like, I'm going fourth. And it started at like 7:30. So now I'm going seventh. And it's literally packed. And that room packed is like 400 people. And there's some, you know, big acts doing big, big stuff, you know. Who was on? Well, I think Eliza was on. Harlan Williams and Whitney and then some. I can't remember who opened, but it was like, there's a tone to comedy. Like, I don't. I'm not the guy. I don't like a party atmosphere when I do comedy. I like some. Some. I like it to be settled. I like it to be focused. I don't. I don't like. I don't need, like, Yeah, I don't like. You like, oh, here we go. You guys ready? It's just like. Just take it down a fucking notch. So I'm breaking my brain backstage. I'm like, it's packed. They want. They're having a good time. They've seen like nine other people. They're all full of the juice. And I'm gonna go up there and I'm gonna bring them Down, I thought. But it was kind of interesting because I've been running this stuff so much and there's this chunk of material and you've heard it on here in different forms where there's this idea like, you know, just go out there and have a good time. It's like, what? When has it ever been a good time? I mean, I like when I do well, but I don't consider it a good time. So I went on after Whitney and I got out there and look, I'm going to talk about politics a little bit and I realize, and I. And you'll see that, you'll see this in the special too, that there is a different tone to it sometimes. But then at some point I'm just, you know, you'll watch it in the special. I'm like, I just want to be entertaining because I think we need entertainment. Now that I've said my piece about, you know, how I see the world and what's happening, how about some entertainment? And I do these two bits, this full. That full piece about evacuating the fires with my cats. And I went out there and I don't know what the fuck I'm thinking or why I always assume that I'm going to be at odds with the audience or at odds with people or whatever, or why I feel like I'm the outsider. It's just. It's not true. Somebody tell my brain it's not true. But the reason I'm talking about this and I'm happy that I notice it and I don't take it for granted is I just went out there and killed so fucking hard. And I guess I did have a good time because I didn't expect it. I thought, like, I'd have half the house with me on the politics and then, you know, I'd be, you know, kind of pull, you know, kind of trying to get out of that. But that shit killed. Everybody knows what's going on. Everyone's fucking nervous. Everybody knows it's fucked up. Of all, you know, all right wing, left wing, Republican, Democrat. After a certain point, there's no way to deny it's fucked up. And if you really think it's going great, there's something wrong with you. You're. You're. You're not a great person if, you know, seeing the amount of people that are scared or in pain or being denied their rights or their voice or ripped out of their homes, if that's something that you think is, like, makes this country what it is, and there's Something wrong with you. And I don't know, it just. It landed in a way that was so explosive. And then I did the cat piece and it's just huge. It was just. It was felt good to kill that fucking hard. And to know that, you know, in my bones already that I can do that. And then there's part of me that thinks like, well, why don't you just do that all the time? Why do you choose to do material sometimes that is provocative or challenging? And. And then I guess the answer to that is it's like, well, you know, I don't. I don't want it to be easy for him. I don't want to. What am I supposed to do? Just make them laugh. Come on, man, let's take it to the edge. See how, how far we can go and still get those laughs. Dig around in there. Let's go into the tunnel, see if we can get a laugh down there in the dark place. But that's just me. But I can lighten it up. I can just be funny. And it was exciting to do that. All right, look, you guys, Sarah's here. And I think I've known her since she was like 18 or 19 years old. And now we're grown people. And it was kind of nice to have a grown up conversation with Sarah Silverman. Postmortem, her new special premieres on Netflix tomorrow May 20th. And it's very touching, it's very sweet. It's about the passing of her stepmom and her father within months of each other. But. But she really, she really kind of, kind of keeps the balance. It's really something. All right, this is me and Sarah. I've been talking about trying to take it easy lately. And once I'm done traveling to make all my tour dates, maybe I can actually travel for vacation. That means I should think of some places where I can actually relax. I mean, I've been to a lot of places. I used to go to Kauai a lot. I went up to Vancouver island for a trip. The point is I can travel to enjoy the trip and not just travel for work. 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