B (2:44)

Welcome to the X22 Report Spotlight. Today we have a returning guest, Bix Weir. Bix is the creator and owner of.

A (2:50)

Roadtoroody.Com and I am very happy to.

B (2:53)

Have Bix back on the X22 Report Spotlight. Bix, welcome back to the Spotlight.

C (2:57)

Thank you. Very exciting times right now, my friend.

B (3:00)

Yeah, I mean, everything that we've been talking about in the past and this.

A (3:03)

Is going back years now when we talk about gold and silver and everything.

B (3:06)

Changing and going back to sound money, it all seems like it's happening right now. And, and a lot of people are out there and we were discussing this before we went on air where people saying, oh, this is happening too fast. Gold is going up way too fast.

A (3:18)

Silver's going up way too fast.

B (3:19)

It's in a bubble, it's going to pop, everything's going to fall apart. I mean, what is your take on this? Is everything going up way too fast?

C (3:27)

Well, I've been in this 25 years and for 25 years I've been hearing what's taking so long? What's taking so long. So no, of course not. It's not, it's not, it's not going too fast. What it's what it's doing. Silver angled have to find their true fair market value. After I silver has been suppressed. This latest inclination incantation of computer market rigging of the price of silver started in the 70s, but it goes way back to the 1850s with the opium wars. So no, it's not going too fast. Silver is trying to find its true fair market value and it's very difficult when you have exchanges that trade. For example, yesterday on the COMEX, 1.2 billion ounces of electronic silver traded in a single day. And I'm scratching my head saying why does anybody believe that this price is real?

B (4:26)

So why do you think the, I guess the powers that be, why do you think they haven't smacked it down?

A (4:31)

Because we've seen it before.

B (4:32)

I mean, if you go back in time when silver was, I think this was what, 2012 silver was around 50. And then all of A sudden it was pushed way down and it was like, you know, 8, 15, 18, $19 an ounce. Why do you think that they aren't.

A (4:48)

Doing this right now?

B (4:49)

Why would they allow this?

C (4:52)

Well, to me, it goes back to we had silver is interesting because there's about 4,000 years of monetary history, meaning human beings have been pulling silver out of the ground, using it as money for 4,000 years. So there was a big stockpile of silver all the way up until the industrial revolution. The. And especially the times where everything turned electronic in the last, say, 50, 60 years upon everything turning electronic, silver being the best conductor of electricity, it used up all those stockpiles that were piled up over the last few thousand years. We're at a point where they've run out of the available silver, physical silver, from that gigantic stockpile. They've run out of silver at a time when the amount of silver used in our industrial life has never been greater and it's getting bigger exponentially every day. So it really is different because it's a supply demand problem. And the massive amount, I mean, there was. There's probably been 60 billion ounces of silver mined in human history. We're out of that. So all of a sudden, you know, we're sitting there going, okay, we want to make solar panels, we want to make electric cars. We have to build out AI we have to do all kinds of things with iPhones and laptop, you name it, if it, if it plugs in, if it has any kind of electrical component, it's got silver in it. So it's a perfect storm for silver. I mean, that at the same time we're running out is the same time we need the most.

B (6:39)

So is this it just in regards to, you know, using silver in components? Because we've been using silver and components for a very long time. I mean, computers have been around for a long time. IPhones have been around a long time. You know, electric vehicles, yes, they started to pop up more so with Biden. But we've had electronic components with silver for quite a while. I mean, I mean, why all of a sudden now it's not like, hey, we just had a revolution and now we're building these systems that we've never seen before, and we need a huge amount of silver.

C (7:14)

Well, you're right, but the part that's missing from that discussion is the stockpile again, for like three, 4,000 years, we've been stockpiling silver, using it as money. Now that stock pirate is running low and running out. So that's the amazing thing is like at the very time we need the most silver in human history, we have used up 3,4000 years of silver stockpiling. And we can blame the entities like the Silver Institute for not telling us the truth about how much silver is used in solar panels or electric cars. I mean, when you think about silver is used in every single item that has electricity. And it is, has literally permeated the entire human population. Flat screen TVs, cell phone. I mean, they have cell phones in Africa, African nations where they just, they don't have barely, barely have Internet and they got cell phones. So the reality of where we are now using the most we've ever used versus the condition of that 60 billion ounce stockpile, the we've crossed the Rubicon. There is no going back. So everybody's scrambling to find out where they can get more and more silver, but nobody's coming up with a solution to the supply demand problem.

B (8:38)

So are you saying this is very different than gold? Because our discussions before with gold, you're saying there's an enormous amount of gold and you're saying there's not the same amount of silver.

C (8:49)

That's the exact. That, that's a, exactly what I'm saying, except one thing, okay? Everything, gold is still around. Gold isn't used up like silver's used up. So we have 4,000 years of gold stockpiles still in vaults. Because there's only, there's really one use for gold and that's as a store of value, a alternative to the US dollar. And that's what humans have been using gold as money for a very long time. You know, even in the jewelry world in India, it's dowry, it's, it's money that you pass down through, you know, your generations. So, yeah, very, very different assets on one level. On the other level, if you look at silver, over 100 is being used on the industrial side every year, has been for a long time. But then all of a sudden people are saying, hey, wait a minute. Silver is also a monetary asset. And people are just saying, holy crap. If you have both the industrial demand, which is over 100, and the monetary demand, and people saying, oh my God, you know, Americans love the chase price. I gotta buy silver because it's about to go over 100, I gotta buy silver because it's about to go over 500, you're gonna see more and more people come into the silver market when you have less and less physical silver.

B (10:11)

So when you, I mean, with silver and with gold, I mean, we're seeing them move up, I think. So Silver is above $90. Gold is I think above 4, 500.

A (10:22)

Approaching I think 5,000 right now, which.

B (10:24)

Is mind boggling because I remember our conversations going way back and you know.

A (10:29)

Silver was 18, $20 an ounce and.

B (10:32)

Gold was, you know, $1,400 an ounce. And here we are. I mean, when you look@the US debt clock.org and you go back to the 1913 type of calculation, they're saying gold is going to be around anywhere between 10 and $12,000 and silver is going to be around a thousand dollars an ounce. I mean, is, is that actually possible?

C (10:55)

I think it's much different than that. If you, that website, the, the debtclock.org people think it's a, it's a government website. It's not.

B (11:03)

Yeah, it's a private.

C (11:04)

It plugs into the data coming from the government though. And the inflation data coming from the government has been completely wrong, especially since Clinton changed. A lot of the metrics go to shadow stats and you see a much higher price for gold, a much higher price for silver. But you know, truthfully, does it really reflect the derivative market, for example? I mean, that it goes off how much fiat money officially has been printed. But we have derivative markets, which is a form of money. People use derivatives to set the price of everything now. And you got Elon finding 14 computers at the US divisions within the United, within the United States Homeland Security and the military. 14 computers creating money out of thin air, not recording it anywhere. So what is the true value of gold and silver versus the dollar? I could argue that there's infinity dollars out there, unlimited amount of dollars and a very limited amount of silver and a knowable amount of gold. But they, they tell you different things with gold and they've been lying to us about gold as well. So yeah, I mean, out of all the assets on the planet right now, what do you want to be holding while the system implodes? You want to be holding silver.

B (12:23)

So do you think we're going back to sound money, do you think? But with silver moving up, gold moving up, you know, we have a constitution.

A (12:33)

I mean Back in 1913, the central.

B (12:35)

Bank, you know, came into existence for the third time and slowly but surely we were taking off of the gold standard. And basically they went around the Constitution and eventually we went full fiat. Do you think we'll be returning to that?

C (12:52)

Yes, but it won't have to do with the rise in price of gold and silver. I mean those, those are derivative trades, right? It will have to do with the fact that the three quadrillion dollar derivative bubble is about to break and no financial institution is going to be up and surviving that. So it will be not necessarily a decision made by someone. It will be done out of necessity. If we do have one of these too big to fail banks going down, JP Morgan, for example, or Deutsche bank or vc. You pick your bank these days, we're gonna have to decide, do we bail out the banks like we did in 2008? I don't think Congress could ever, ever, ever do that again. I mean, it was, it was ridiculous to start with, but now people are ready for something new. The largest problem on the planet is debt. They want to get rid of their debt. So if we don't bail out the banks, the entire system is gone and everybody loses everything. Then the United States, who, I mean, I think we're the only one who specifically says gold and silver are your money. And that's still on the books, right? We might not have been living that, but yeah, we don't have to have any deciders. We can just say, oh, my God, what have you people, The World bank and the BIS and the treasury and the Fed. What have you done to us? We don't want you around anymore. And then it's like, who has the decision? Who, who makes the decision? Well, we just go to the Constitution. What does it say? Gold and silver or money?

B (14:24)

So the fraud that we're seeing in Minnesota, I mean, this is, as everyone's saying, it's the tip of the iceberg. So we're seeing, you know, money laundering. Doge looked at USAID, looked at the 14 computers. They can see that a lot of this is fraud. We see that in Minnesota, and I think we're going to see that in California. I think California is even worse than that. New York. We're going to see it in Colorado. I think we're going to see it in a lot of blue states. So we're going to see a lot of money laundering, which we're seeing already. Now, if the, if DOGE found fraud and, you know, money laundering through USAID to NGOs, and they saw the 14 computers in the treasury basically sending money out to who knows where, no one's tracking or anything. And now we're seeing fraud across the globe, do you think that maybe this is being set up to maybe show that the Federal Reserve has also been involved in criminal activity? Because again, when was the last time.

A (15:21)

We audited the Fed?

B (15:22)

When was the last time we, you know, looked into exactly what they were doing. Trump right now is building the narrative that Jerome Powell can't even handle his construction. He's way over budget and if he can't handle his construction, how is he handling the United States economy? So I feel like he's, what's happening right now is we're seeing fraud and we're seeing, you know, Powell where he can't function and actually manage a simple construction of his building. Of course, he's probably laundering money too. So does this lead to. The Fed has been committing fraud and a lot of this debt is not owed by the people.

C (16:04)

Yeah, the whole remodel of the Fed, why Trump is suing is a cover story for. We're going to get in there, we're going to crack the book books open. We know, we know the Fed has been committing fraud and bailing out banks. And you could say they, they're doing it for a good reason to keep the system going, not necessarily taking care of their friends and family. Whereas the 14 computers that, you know, Homeland Security and you name it, every division had one of these computers that was taking care of friends and family that was, that was paying Hunter Biden $50 billion so that nobody knows about it. Things like that, we don't know. I find it very interesting that Elon left as soon as they found those 14 computers. He left the Doge team because at some point you say, oh my God, how many quadrillions have been printed that nobody knows about? And then, and then you get to the point, it's like, how do we fix this problem?

B (17:04)

Yeah, well, that's the whole thing that everyone's wondering about.

C (17:06)

Well, there's only one way and that's to destroy Fiat money. And they can do that with the collapse of the derivative bubble and don't bail out the banks. So, yes, you have people, innocent people gonna get swept up. You know, they worked their whole lives, they did everything they were supposed to do and then at the end of the day they, they go to their bank and, and they can't get a penny out because the bank, the fractionally reserved banks have all faded and gone. It won't take long. If just one bank, I think it's going to be J.P. morgan. Let's just say Trump comes out and says, well, JP Morgan was the bank that facilitated the entire Epstein operation. There's 20 people at JP Morgan that were involved in business with him in as customers of his and abusing kids. That would destroy JP Morgan Chase, the largest derivative holder bank on the planet. And which would destroy every other financial institution. There'd be no stock market open, no bond market, no 401k, no checking account, no savings account. That it's a scary thing to think about. But it's always been the end game. It has always, since day one, 1913, when they created the Federal Reserve. The end game was to print unbagged fiat money for as long as you can enjoy the benefits of it. You know, build your military and your housing and all that and then in the end destroy it and go back to a gold, gold standard or a silver standard or both. And I think it, I've been talking about this for so long and it's easy to say, but I trust, trust me, I know the ramifications of what I'm saying. I'm not saying this, just oh, yeah, no, it'll never happen. It'll never happen. It's going to happen. It's planned to happen. The road to rooted documents said it's going to happen. I do believe it's going to happen. The question is, who has the balls to pull, push the red buzzer, as Katherine Austin Fitz likes to say. And Trump, Trump's the only guy who could do it truthfully. And I think all his, his moves lately completely against a smooth type of monetary system is directed towards that end goal of destroying the old system and then implementing something new.

B (19:22)

So I don't know if you saw this article, it was in the Times out in the UK where you had certain bankers letting you know that we might see a run on banks if it's shown that aliens exist. And this wasn't satire, it wasn't fake, you know, news. They actually put this in the article saying if the United States comes out and says aliens do exist, the bankers are very afraid that people then will storm the banks and they will try to get their money out if this information comes out. Now I feel like they're planning something different and they're using that as a cover story.

C (20:08)

Yeah, the banks want to collapse. They know how much fraud they've been involved with. It's kind of like the good guys and the bad guys. And we've talked about this for a long time, good guys and bad guys both want the system, the unbacc fiat system to collapse. The good guys because they feel that the, the humanity is being abused by these bankers and we're way out of control and we gotta throw people in jail for their crimes. The bad guys want it because they want to wash over the crimes. They want everything destroyed so that there Isn't investigation into them. Both sides want it to collapse. The question is what do we do after the collapse? And that's, that's, I've been saying there can't be any deciders mean that no one will have the moral authority at that moment in time. It won't be. We're not going to turn to Jerome Powell. What do we do? Jerome, who is George Soros is number one finance guy by the way. We're not going to turn to him and say, you know, create us a new system. We're not going to turn to World bank or UBS or any crypto bro, and say create us a new monetary system. So nobody will have that authority. But we do have a constitution in the US and we can go back to a gold and silver standard. And I know from the Fed documents, I know that that has been in the works for a very long time. Yes, it'll be chaotic, but it's not like we're starting from scratch. We've been planning for this for over 100 years. And the fact that it's coming, happening now, that is great. We're going to experience in our life, it in our lifetimes, but it will change. This is the biggest thing to happen in human history that we know of, at least the history that we're told of. So the whole alien thing, yeah, you can, you can blame whatever you want. I can tell you 10 reasons why people should race to their bank and everybody will race to their bank. The very moment that people think that their money is going to be gone, they're going to race the bank and find out, well, it's fractional resources and the bank doesn't have your money.

B (22:06)

The question I have is why didn't we, or why didn't anyone do this before now, before the system became so big. Why didn't, if we all knew that this was going to happen and Greenspan and Reagan and all the others, why didn't we just turn it around before this, before this point? I mean now we're at the point where, you know, there's 36 plus trillion worth of debt. Derivative bubble is gigantic. Inflation is, you know, is cumulative. It's, it's not just 2%. I mean the dollar has lost, it's not even a dollar. The Federal Reserve note has lost value. Why didn't we take care of this from the very beginning? Why didn't someone step in and say, you know what, let's shut this down, let's go back to the Constitution?

C (22:50)

Well, a lot of people have Tried to make that happen. Warren Buffett's father, Howard Buffett, used to give speeches in Congress in the 40s, said, we have to go back onto a gold standard. There's a. There's a few reasons. One, One thing is the golden rule of economics says that no generation put. Should put the next generation in debt. You shouldn't do that to your children. And that's what's been done to us since the creation of debt as money, which is the 1913 Federal Reserve Note was created. And then, you know, they've tried to do it for a very long time. Now, when you go back to the very reason it was allowed back in 1913, when Woodrow Wilson signed the Federal Reserve act, that was 100. Because of all the gold that they found in the Grand Canyon. Billions of ounces of gold, and it was announced in the New York Times, and then billions of ounces of gold in the night. In, say, 1913, there was about 100 million million ounces in the U.S. circulating, most of it held by banks. And then in the world, there was about 250 million ounces around that could be. That could be used. When they found that gold in the Grand Canyon, billions and billions of ounces, they knew they had a problem. It would have. It would have cost massive inflation. It would have just changed every. Every country. It would have uprooted every. Everyone on the planet. They decided not to release it, lock up the Grand Canyon, which Woodrow Wilson did, and hold it for a future date when we had to go back onto a monetary system that included gold. And that's what's been going on. That's why the can keeps getting kicked behind the scenes. But, you know, the reason it keeps going on is. Is the very reason that we try to put our hands around that system collapsing today. Nobody wants to do it. Nobody. Nobody's ready to say. To say, I want to lose everything I've worked my whole life for. Because that's what we are so locked into, this system of fiat money and derivatives and stocks and bonds and the things that we think make us wealthy that we have a hard time saying, oh, yeah, the right thing to do would be to leave this current thing, system that I am so invested in and to go back to an old system or even start a new system in cryptos. But I don't think there's any crypto standing with moral, moral authority to say, yes, this is what we're going to do. There's too many criminals in cryptos right now.

B (25:21)

I mean, if we go back to I mean, you're saying that, you know, they found so much gold, why didn't they just like, I mean, I guess they did lock up the Grand Canyon but not go on a central bank system? Wouldn't that been easier to stay on the gold standard? Don't go to the central bank system. Just control what's in the Grand Canyon like they're doing now. They did it anyhow. And why didn't we just stay with the Constitution? Wouldn't that been easier at the time?

C (25:49)

It wouldn't have been easier, no, it would have been much harder. It would have collapsed every government on the planet at the time they were all on the gold standard, that all the wealthy for example, had gold, the people had silver, but the wealthy held gold. And you're going to tell the wealth of the world, including nations and the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and the Warburgs and all that, that their, their wealth that they held in gold is worth a tenth of what it was the day before. Huge, huge disruption all over the planet.

B (26:23)

But what I'm saying, what I'm saying is why didn't, I mean they locked up, you know, the Grand Canyon. You don't, you don't see the gold there.

A (26:29)

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B (29:00)

Why didn't they just lock up the Grand Canyon, say there was no gold whatsoever, they did it anyhow. And then not go on the central bank system. Just continue with what? With what? You know, the way everything was, you know.

C (29:14)

Yeah, I do. I mean they were having problems anyway. They remember the central bankers, the power those powers of the world wanted any reason to get a central bank going and it failed a couple times in the US and you know, they wanted control over the money system. That's the bad guys. They weren't thinking 100 years out they were thinking oh my God, what are we going to do today? And Woodrow Wilson got got literally frightened into signing the Federal Reserve act when on it was December what, 23rd, when only part of Congress was there and all that. And then from there once they had that control, they centralized their Control. They have been feeding the beast ever since. At the beginning, there was just a 1% income tax or 1 penny income tax. That's all it was. Now look at our income tax. And that's what it takes to feed the beast, to keep this thing going. So you're right. No generation has been strong enough to say, this is such a horrible system that we are going to leave it and we're going to press that red button and just not bail out the banks. We're not going to listen to what these people who control our lives are saying. I think today, I think we're very close to having so many people understand what fiat money is now. I mean, when I was. Started this thing 25 years ago, it was, it was. Ron Paul was the only one screaming about it. And Ron Paul really did educate a huge chunk of the American population to get them thinking, you know, a lot of people know about the Fed because of social media and Ron Paul and, and that movement and more will learn about the system as gold and silver continue to climb. So, you know, everybody kind of looks out for themselves in every generation, and that's why we sit here today and, you know, why aren't we doing it? You know, if we said, you know, why didn't they do it back in 1913? Well, why aren't we doing it today? What, what is it that's stopping us?

B (31:22)

It's.

C (31:23)

We've built a whole life around the system. People have saved for their college education around the system. They, they feed their family with this system. It's not an easy thing to do, even though we know it's bad.

B (31:36)

Yeah. I mean, if you go in the past and you mentioned the Fed, if you go in the past, it was kind of taboo of talking about the Fed. You really didn't talk about it. You didn't say much about it. Actually. Presidents and the news, the fake news, they really never really mentioned the Fed until, I think probably in 2008 when we had the financial crisis there. I think that's when people came out and talked about the Fed, talked about all of a sudden quantitative easing, and people started to question what the Fed was doing. I think that's when all of a sudden you start to, you started to really hear about it. And as we move forward now with Trump, now Trump is calling them out every single day, you know, lower the interest rates. He's, he's telling them, look, you're not doing the right thing for the country. Are you able to manage the country? And I feel like he's building that narrative and pointing the finger at the Fed. So the people of this country see the Fed for what it really is.

C (32:38)

Absolutely, absolutely. And it's part of the plan. I think Occupy Wall street after, you know, right around that time, 2008, opened a lot of eyes. Yeah, I mean, I keep going back to that. That was it. It wasn't cnn. It was like cbs. It was Senator Kinjorski came on a couple days after the 2008, September 11, 2008 crash and said we were hours away from the entire system melting down in 2008. That's why they bailed out the banks. And that revelation that the Fed came to senators and said, and congresspeople and said, we either bail out the banks and they used I think 2 trillion and then rehypothecated that or fractionally reserved it up to 20 trillion. Had they not done that, the entire system would have collapsed within days. And I mean it's such a, I've been saying it, but you can hear a gold bug say that all the time. But to hear a senator say that the Fed had, and treasury had come to the Congress and said this is going to happen, it gives you an idea of the next time it happens. And you know, our Congress is completely corrupt and completely non functional.

B (34:03)

Are you kidding me? They are.

C (34:05)

Yeah. So imagine that, you know, back then it was 2 trillion. They needed to ramp it up to 20 trillion. Now it's going to be 20 or 40 trillion dollars to bail out the banking system. It's not going to happen. And if it doesn't happen, we see the consequences of a too big to fail bank fail, which means every other financial institution on the planet fails.

B (34:30)

It's funny because I remember Trump, just maybe a year ago or two years ago, he actually said that the banks are archaic and that we might no longer actually need them.

C (34:44)

It's true. And I mean, Trump knows absolutely what I know about the Grand Canyon gold. It's always been sitting there waiting for us. We have so much gold available. I think we have a lot of silver available too, to move on to a gold and silver standard. And, but remember this, remember who wins if we have a destruction of the unbacked fiat monetary system. It's the largest debtor and the largest debtor on the planet by far is the United States of America.

B (35:10)

Yeah. So I mean, if, I mean as we're seeing right now, gold and silver continually climb. I mean, I, I mean, I don't know what, what the amount's going to be where people I mean, I thought it was going to be around 4,000 where people go, holy crap, we better start ramping up. And gold, maybe they're doing it now, but it, it doesn't seem like it. I know, like Costco has been s. Selling, you know, one ounce gold bars and you know, they're selling out of those. But as gold and silver really move up, what point do people say, okay, what, what is going on? I mean, is this going to wake enough people up to say, you know, what is really going on here? Why is silver, you know, 500 an ounce?

A (35:48)

Why is gold at 9,000 right now?

B (35:51)

Is that going to be point where people say that there's something wrong with the paper money, there's something wrong, something's going on here? It doesn't make any sense.

C (36:00)

No, no, no. They, they don't make that connection yet. Most people don't. They're going to wake up when they go to their ATM and they can't get any money out. That's plain and simple. That's it. The bank has, has lost your money and it happens. It can happen instantaneously. It can happen over a matter of days. But again, like Kenjorski said, we almost, it almost happened in 2008. That's when they wake up. That's when the world says, oh my God, what has happened that, you know, I hear a lot of rumbling about not paying taxes this year. Knowing where your tax money goes.

B (36:37)

Yeah.

C (36:38)

Somali refugees and all of Gavin Newsom's voting base. Knowing where that money goes. Why would anybody pay taxes ever again?

B (36:48)

Yeah, I mean, Elon, I think he said, you know, with everything that's going on, the budget and everything, he's saying it's probably 10 or even more of fraud in the government. I think it's much, much higher than that. I think when you dive in deep and this is not, I'm not just talking about Minnesota, California and the rest, not even the 14 computers they found. I'm talking everything that we don't know about what the Fed has been doing internally. So I think that the amount of fraud and the amount of criminality is far beyond anyone could ever imagine.

C (37:29)

Yeah. And when you go back to the derivative, the moments of the creation of this derivative bubble happened at the end of 1999 time frame. Alan Greenspan and Larry Summers and Robert Rubin all got together and tried to block any kind of regulation on derivatives. Is a great, I think it's Dateline documentary on that situation. And the, There was a cftc. I think she was a Chairman, I forgot her name starts with a B. Bear someone bear that tried to fight them in Congress and they just weren't having it any regulations of derivatives. Alan Greenspan knew exactly what would happen if they didn't regulate derivatives. The banks would blow that bubble bigger than anything ever seen. And that's literally the only thing that could destroy the system. Something much, much bigger than the fiat system, much bigger than the stock market, much bigger than anything that humans have ever created. And that's where we are now. That deregulation of derivatives in the late 90s created what Warren Buffett calls the weapon of mass financial destruction. And that's the derivative bubble.

B (38:49)

No, I feel like the EU is kind of heading in a different direction because they're looking at the, you know, the, the digital euro. They're looking at, you know, I don't think they're looking at going back to sound money. I think they're looking at central bank control of everything. So I feel like they're going in a completely different direction compared to the.

C (39:12)

U.S. yeah, they always, they always have been and you know they are much more controlled by the, the deep state and the, the banking cabal and all that but than anybody else. Not that anybody else, but then, then the United States especially and you could say that you know about, but you don't hear much from the people of the eu. We're starting to, but like in England for example, oh my God, the, the destruction of, of the traditional English family is going on just like they're trying to destroy the traditional American family. That's happening. And, and you're going to see more and more especially when these banks crash. Especially, I mean this Somali situation. Holy moly. Talk about, you know, nobody's starting to care whether they're seen as xenophobic or you know, anti anti Muslim or anything anymore. They're saying holy. These people have, are living the high life, buying fancy cars and bringing suitcases of cash back home. And I'm paying that. It's my tax money that's going there. I, I, you know, the whole thing is blowing up in the streets now and the idiots out there, the lefties saying no, don't go after the, the illegal immigrants. I mean Biden opened the door for everybody. Anybody and people were emptying jails into the United States. If we don't get them out, we probably won't have a country that's you, you. The only way to destroy the United states is from India 100.

B (40:45)

I mean it's very difficult to attack us, but to Bring their army into, inside of this country and, you know, gut it from the inside. We could see, I think it's plenty of day right now. That's what they've been doing.

C (41:01)

And this is one of the reasons I, I'm pissed that the good guys, Trump and the good guys have kind of eased back on, causing too much commotion by exposing the criminality. We get what we deserve. If you're not going to put people in jail and show the world exactly what's going on with the Clintons and Epstein and, and the banking fraud and all the things that, that there's plenty of evidence for, then we get what we deserve. And I am absolutely a patriot. I was. I still am on the side of the good guys. But the reality is you should have pulled the band aid a lot long. I mean, Trump's first administration, they could have done it right away and way worse off.

B (41:47)

Now, the problem is, is that the criminal syndicate system controls the judges. Okay, let's use, for example, Comey. Let's use example Letitia James. Everyone said arrest them. Bring him to.

A (41:58)

Bring him to trial.

B (41:59)

And these are open and shut cases. What happened?

C (42:03)

Yeah, yeah.

B (42:04)

I mean, well, that's, that's why when everyone goes, we got to rest, we got to do this. There are grand jury investigations right now. Grand juries take a long, a long time. It doesn't happen over a month. It's not like a movie, first of all. It's not like what the deep state does when they press charges, because everything is done not following the rule of law. Trump and his team, I do believe, are following the rule of law. And even if we did, let's say we went ahead and rearrested all these people and then we brought them in front of the same judges, because, remember, a lot of the federal judges, they're all corrupt. The whole system is corrupt. If we brought them in front of there and the judges sided with the lawfare people because they work hand in hand, they would get off just like Comey got off. Oh, wait, just like Letitia James got off. And then you know what everyone would be doing? Everyone would be complaining. Oh, my God, look at this. This is unbelievable. Why couldn't we put him in jail? Why couldn't we do these things? So in order for this to work, you need to get rid of the corruption. And again, when, you know, when Trump came into office and he took over the executive branch and put people into place in the FBI, doj, you have to remember what the FBI, FBI, DOJ and all these agencies Were they weren't there to investigate crime. They weren't there to basically prosecute real criminals. They were there and they were developed to protect the criminals. So you had a. Basically, when they went inside, they had to turn the whole thing around because the entire structure was not to bring people to justice. The entire structure of the doj, of the FBI and the other agencies was to protect everything the criminals have been doing and stop those people that were trying to look at the criminals, look at the criminal activity. So this entire time was actually, I guess, rejiggering and reorganizing the entire system. And the entire system, I think, is a lot worse than people think. The entire system is not the little corruption over here. Look, the Clintons are the bad people. This system of criminality is the entire country. They've had, what, over 50 something years to develop this. And everybody wants, you know, everything to happen in a matter of days, especially when you're dealing with, let's see, AGs in different states, prosecutors in different states. They're corrupt. Sores put them in the federal judges, they're corrupt. I mean, if you look at all the judges that have been going against Trump and everything that he's been trying to do, the whole judiciary is corrupt. So it's very difficult, it's very easy to say, oh, this is the way it has to be done. But if you're actually going to go after these people, you actually have to follow the rule of law. You actually have to do things the proper way or it will not work. Just like when they went after Comey, they went after Letitia James. You had Lawfare working with the corrupt judges and those two working together and they set this up very nicely. I'm talking about the deep state players that the criminals, this way, they can get everybody off. This way, nobody goes to trial. This way you can try those people that are trying to stop you with fake crimes, like they went after Trump with a fake crime about, you know, he didn't value his properties correctly. When the bank says, yeah, I have no problem with this, we gave him an award for this. So, again, yes, I understand, yes, we want arrest, yes, we want this. But again, this is much, much, much, much larger than anyone could ever imagine. And you have to clean it all up before you can actually do this. Everyone wants to put the cart before the horse. It doesn't work.

C (45:47)

Very well said. I.

B (45:48)

That's.

C (45:48)

I agree, I agree.

B (45:50)

That's my little rant.

C (45:51)

That's a good rant. No, it's a good rant. And well said. And I get just as frustrated because I want it done yesterday. But there is a problem with that style of taking out the bad guys is that governments change every four years. So Trump has three years left. If he doesn't do it, if he can't get it done, you ask why they keep kicking the can down and taking out the evil people that control our lives. That's one of the reasons, is that if you don't do it faster, if you don't risk having people potentially getting away, if you, if you sit there and say, yes, there's good guys, we're going to take out bad guys. And I'm, I'm on your side. Absolutely. That they've taken out already a ton of bad guys. The problem is, and the reason things get kicked down the road is the, the government changes every four years in the U. S. And if Trump can't get this done in, in three years, I think financially, if he can't get it done in the next six months, then you're looking at another can kick and it'll be more brutal living through the next hundred years than it was living through the last hundred.

B (47:04)

Oh, no. I mean, put it this way, America will be lost. The world will be put into darkness. But you have to remember, I mean, like the federal judges, for example, Trump just can't come in and say, you know what I get, I want to.

A (47:16)

Get rid of all these people.

B (47:17)

It doesn't work like that. But just like with, you know, the idiots in Congress, you just can't say, hey, you're all fired. It doesn't work that way.

C (47:25)

In one sense, if you destroy the monetary system, they don't have jobs, they don't have henchmen working for them. I mean, the bad guys use the unbagged fiat system to. That's where all their power comes from. That's where. No, I work in computers, so it, you can take out the, the source of their power by destroying the unbagged fiat system. And it, yes, it affects every person on the planet. Affects more rich people than it does poor people. It affects those who have assets rather than those who have debt. And it's a, it's chaos.

B (48:00)

But it always affects the, the middle class, poor people more so.

C (48:04)

I don't think so this time. No, I mean, the middle class know what it's like to scrape and scramble for food and things like that. The rich don't. They are not prepared for this type of world. That's why they've set it up so that it doesn't collapse. I mean, you don't think Jamie Dimon sits at a, at a table when he's analyzing a huge deal and say, this deal is very risky, but. And if it goes bad, we'll get the bailout from the Fed because they don't want the entire system. So we got to do more of these gigantic deals so that we are protected. And he does. That factors into, they factor in. I think it's 1.2% of every deal they put in for, for legal fees that are sure to come about. And the reality of where we are now, we have to have enough balls to pull this plug and change the system or we are going to see the next hundred years of the same and worse than what we saw in the last hundred years.

B (49:08)

Well, this is why I think the midterms are very important. I don't think people understand how important it is.

C (49:13)

I don't think so. I don't. I don't think Congress has anything to do with it.

B (49:16)

I do.

C (49:17)

I think. I think Congress is 100% lost cause.

B (49:20)

I think right now Trump is going to endorse all the people that he wants in there. The rhinos are going to be removed. A lot of the Ds, they will not be able to function and they will not be able to take control of the House or the Senate. The rhinos will not be able to take control of the House and Senate. I think Trump is setting it up where we have the ability to put in the Patriots. And once the Patriots are in place, then he can move in the next two years and complete the plan that he started with. And I think that's that, that's why when you look at what he's talking about is giving dividends to the people from the tariff system, the one big, beautiful giving people tax refunds, bringing the interest rate down lower. Because the number one issue for people is the economy. When you look at people, it was in 2024, it was the economy. It's still the economy. People are struggling. People want more money. People want a better life. And when you give people a refund, when you give people a dividend, when you lower the fuel price, when you level off inflation, I'm not saying he's getting rid of inflation, but when you level off inflation and you actually allow people to mortgage a house for 50 years, and I know people have a lot of questions about that too, but you allow people to do this and people feel good, people then go to the polls and they vote for the people that Trump is Saying, this is the people that we need. If you want to continue with this and this, this is what was done in 2024. The same thing with the economy. He was showing, yes, we're going to round up the people. Yes, the border was the second issue. The first issue was the economy. And this is how I do believe that he is going to get the control that he needs, because he needs control of the House and Senate. How do you impeach the federal judges, the House and the Senate? Can it be done now? No. How do you implement all the laws and requirements that he needs to move forward of getting rid of the Federal Reserve? Restructuring the Federal Reserve? You need the House and Senate. How do you move forward with different amendments that you want to put into place? You need the House and Senate. You don't need. You don't have to wait for the states to say, hey, here's a new amendment. Let's, you know, let's change things up. The House and Senate can do that. And then I think the states have to then vote. But again, you can do all of these things. You have the power in two years, and it can move very, very quickly.

C (51:47)

Well, then what are you left with? You're left with the exact same system you had before. You're left with a situation where those who stole all this cash money of ours, the Federal Reserve notes, still have that. They still have the power. They just wait for the next administration.

B (52:01)

That's why he's building the tariff system. If you look back, if you look back in history, when we had a tariff system, we didn't have a central bank. When we had a central bank, we didn't have a tariff system. The tariff system is an income producer. The Federal Reserve is a debt system. He's just changing where the income is coming from instead of borrowing it and going internally. It's like if you had a company, if you owned a company and you sold a product and you weren't really selling the product, and you turn around to your employees and say, listen, by the way, to keep the company running, I know we're paying you $50,000, but I got to take at least 15,000 from you to keep the company going. How many employees would stay with that company? Not many. They say, this is ridiculous. The same thing with the United States. The Federal Reserve, they take the money internally from the people. So work harder, harder, harder. I will take your money to keep my criminal syndicate operational. He's creating the tariff system. Not just tariffs, but gold, energy, sales, technology, sales, you name it. I'M talking about the gold card. When I said gold, and you have the income come in from the outside, that's external revenue to basically make the country function. So basically, when you start removing the taxes from the people, that's why he started with no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime. That was the beginning phase. But I do believe he's following what the tariff men have done in the past in this country. And yes, eventually we will shut down their money flow. He's already done that. Think about usaid, think about Venezuela. All the drug trafficking, human trafficking, oil trafficking. All that money was going to all these different places. Usaid, all that money was going to all these different areas. With the deep state controlled, the 14 computer shut down, all that money was going. He is shutting it down. He's just setting everything up to go after where the money is actually derived, and that is the Federal Reserve. And I think in the end, yes, in the end, when he has full control and the deep state is very, very weak and he has the leverage, that's when you attack. You don't attack when you don't have the leverage. What army would ever attack when you don't have the leverage? It makes no sense. It's almost like during the Revolutionary War, the colonists, they were sitting there waiting for the British, okay? They didn't have the leverage. They didn't have the ability to shoot them. That's why they said, wait until you see the white of their eyes. That was their best chance of actually taking them out. Instead of shooting them from a far distance, Trump is doing the same thing. Get the leverage, set everything up, make them weak, shut them down very, very slowly. Gain the power. So this way, when it's time, we can go and remove what we need to remove. That's. I mean, personally, that's what I'm saying, that, that's what I see his plan is.

C (54:55)

And it might be, but it doesn't solve the problem. Everything you said there, of course it does. It does not solve the problem that, for example, 99 of the money is already out there. You can't, you can't get it back. They're gonna, they've hidden it. They're gonna spend it where they want to spend it. They'll, they'll, they can.

B (55:13)

What you're saying the money, you mean the Federal Reserve?

C (55:16)

Federal Reserve notes that when you get.

B (55:18)

Rid of the Federal Reserve and those no longer exist and you go back to the actual US dollar.

C (55:25)

Wait, wait, wait, wait. How do you do that? You tell Me how to do that.

B (55:28)

Because they've been, he restructures the Federal Reserve into the treasury and we, we move from the Federal Reserve note to the US Dollar.

C (55:37)

Okay, what happens to all the Federal Reserve notes?

B (55:40)

What happens when he pays it all back?

C (55:43)

Well yeah, you can go to the mint and say print me or coin me a, a twenty trillion dollar coin and you pay it back. It doesn't, it doesn't solve it. And everybody's got their wealth in Federal.

B (55:54)

Reserve notes but they have no additional wealth.

C (55:58)

Soon that it doesn't, you don't need additional wealth. The reality is the, the wealth is already out there and has been misallocated. And so what you're talking about is the smooth landing theory. And I, I, I'm telling you the problems with the smooth landing, you know, fixing things and, and getting our budgets under control and, and everything there. And, and let's just say we go to some other kind of currency. Who's going to be in charge of allocating it? Who's going to be in charge of making sure that every other country is on our same system. That what you're talking about takes a lot of deciders and agreement. That's, that's why I've been screaming for 10 years, 15 years. There cannot be a smooth landing. There is no taking the current system we have fixing the little problems but leaving the big problem. The big problem is misallocation of debt. And all that debt is somebody else's asset. And 99% of that debt is held by the bad guys. It's the money that's the problem. It's the derivatives that's the problem. You cannot fix the system and with, and keep the old system in place.

B (57:15)

And will be in place. I think it will be removed.

C (57:19)

How do you do that? You replace it with gold backed currency and you give everybody who has the same fiat money a gold backed currency. You're going to give China all, all the gold.

B (57:28)

Why would we give China?

C (57:29)

Because they own most of the debt.

B (57:32)

If you pay back the Federal Reserve the debt that has been. First of all, it depends on what debt. The debt that was created by criminal activity. We the people don't know.

C (57:43)

So how do you distinguish which is criminal activity and which is not a.

B (57:48)

Full audit of the Fed.

C (57:50)

So I mean, and you'll, you'll see where this all breaks down when you, most of the debt is held outside of the United States, right?

A (57:58)

Yes.

B (57:59)

And how did they get that debt?

C (58:01)

Well China will argue that we got it because we manufactured your products for the past 30 years.

B (58:09)

And how do we get that money back? Oh, wait, tariffs. Every time they send something here, it's going to be trillions of dollars coming back to the United States from the outside.

C (58:21)

China doesn't have a problem with customers. They're not going to the only shut off the United States. Why not just shut off the US.

B (58:30)

They'Re the producers and we're the customers. If we create the products within the country and we don't use China, guess what happens to China.

C (58:40)

China will sell to their own people using their own money that they create.

B (58:43)

China will not be able to do that. China, they got 1.3 billion people. China's built on a fake system just like us. That's right. And that's why we're going to be going back to a sound money system and a system that actually works for the people. See, the United States has the leverage. That's why all these countries folded with the tariffs. Because again, if we, if we decide, let's say, okay, we're going to manufacture everything here in the United States, we're not going to take the products from Germany, we're not going to take the products from Korea, we're not take the products from China. We're not going to take, you know what happens to those countries?

C (59:21)

They fall apart to us.

B (59:24)

Yeah, we survive.

C (59:25)

Scott Basette just made a speech today in Davos that says if China blockades Taiwan or goes into Taiwan, our entire economy will implode because we can't make those chips.

B (59:38)

Well, first of all, right now, no, we don't have everything set up to make all these chips. Yes, we still have to do things. I mean, you think about it again, we're looking at this as they had 50, 100 years to shift everything out of this country. Trump has a very short period of time to bring it all back to this country. So, yes, if you're looking at it from today standpoint, no, it wouldn't work. If you're looking down the line. And as we build the manufacturing plants, which they're being built right now, yes, down the line, we will have even more leverage.

C (60:14)

It takes seven to 10 years to build those manufacturing facilities built in Taiwan. I went through 2008 when my, my car, I couldn't get a chip for my car. I had to sit there and wait for the chip to come two years later.

B (60:28)

We're dependent on everybody else right now.

C (60:30)

And imagine, imagine seven years of that.

B (60:34)

Well, slowly but surely, it's not like it's a switch because you continually have Plants being built and each one comes online. So it's not like, oh, wait, you have to wait seven years. And then all of a sudden all the plants are here and all of a sudden we can do it. We can do it very slowly. And over time, you have certain industries, they pick up, they pick up the slack, they start producing here, and it happens.

C (60:59)

I think, you know, we can.

B (61:02)

No, I know. I'm just.

C (61:03)

No, but this is good conversation because it's important that there are, there really are many, many ways to think about the future and will it be a slow return. And both of us know that there are good guys working on this.

B (61:18)

No, I agree with that.

C (61:19)

I can guarantee you they're having the same discussions or a half hat for the past 50 years. Yeah. Behind the scenes. I believe, and this is from the road to rooter documents that came out of the Fed, that we have a vast amount of gold ready to go for a new monetary system, but it won't be connected to the old monetary system, the old debt system, because there's no way to track down who should have what. And that would, that would take a decider. And most of that, that fiat money and the fiat wealth that is out there today is owned by less than 1%. And a big chunk of those people are not good guys and didn't get it in a good way. That's, that's, that's my position. All you got to do is look at Nancy Pelosi or, or Elon Omar.

B (62:03)

Yeah.

C (62:04)

Holy crap. She's almost $30 million.

B (62:07)

Yeah, all the. Actually, if you look at all of them that, you know, they, they didn't work hard for it.

C (62:12)

But what about the ones we don't see? No, no, Congress got. Did every Democrat get an extra 30, $30 million just for being there?

B (62:21)

Yeah, no, I know. I think the, the ultra, ultra wealthy.

A (62:25)

They'Re not holding cash.

B (62:26)

They're. They're holding real assets. Most of the ultra wealthy, they're not sitting there going, hey, look, I have all these pieces of paper or it blips on the computer. Most of them are in major different assets. And they hold the assets. Yes. People like Elon Omar and Nancy Pelosi and all these other people that, you know, they just, you know, riding on the coattails. Yes. They're holding a lot of blips in the bank. They might have a couple houses and things like that.

C (63:00)

But remember, the rich people, the rich people not only, you know, they could have any assets they want. What they need is people to protect them. And They've had governments to protect them and armies to protect them.

B (63:13)

That is true.

C (63:13)

If the system falls apart and all of a sudden their henchmen aren't getting paid for Hillary Clinton's cover up, people aren't getting paid for, then that, that system literally falls apart. And you know, it's like, what, not only what you have, but what can you protect? So I just, it feels to me, from all the work I've done, 25 years looking at this, talking about what the new system's going to be, finding out, that the, there's massive amounts of gold in the world in the United States. Part of our plan is to go back to some kind of at least gold standard, maybe even the gold and silver standard, but definitely a gold standard. And we have this massive amount of gold in the United States to do that. The biggest question I have always asked is what's going to happen to the old system? Yeah, you can't connect the two. It's like right now, cryptos and the fiat system are being connected. Worst thing ever for cryptos. When the banks go, all the cryptos are going to go with it. So you can't connect gold and silver to a monetary system that hasn't been fixed. And it's like connecting it to the $3 quadrillion in derivatives. Those are, as Buffett says, it's a financial weapon of mass financial destruction because it, it literally destroys everything that's not sitting in your hand.

B (64:35)

I, I see it as, there's a new system that is being developed. It's like if we go back to 1913 and moving forward, there were two systems, the gold, gold system. And then they created a new system which was the central bank system. That took him a very long time to take us off the gold standard and go fully into the new system. Yes, it did. But I believe that Trump is creating this new system and this is why he's in the Supreme Court. This is why. Who do you think is suing him? Why are they so concerned about tariffs? Because it's the central bank system. Yes, they might have done it through many different other organizations to sue Trump, but they're very concerned in what he's doing. He's building a new system which eventually will take, will basically come into, into play and take over for the old system to make that switch. And yes, there might be things I don't even know about that, that he's planning to do, but there's a reason why they're so concerned about him creating this tariff system where they want to shut down the tariff system. So to me, I feel like he's building this new external system and basically he's going to wean us off the central bank system as time goes on. And I agree with you, yes, the old system has to come to an end and there has to be something that replaces it. And I agree with that. Now, it could be soft or it could be hard. It depends on how this all plays out. I agree with that.

C (65:59)

I guess that's where we, that's, that's the, really the only difference. We both agree.

B (66:03)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

C (66:04)

A new system is being built. The question is, do you pull the band aid and make it happen or do you introduce it over time?

B (66:12)

I mean, we're gonna have to sit and wait and see, aren't we?

C (66:15)

I, I still don't see how that 3, quadrillion derivative weapon of my mass financial destruction gets diffused.

B (66:24)

Yeah, well, I, I don't know the actual specifics and what he's working on because if I did that, then I know all the insider information, but I don't, I wish, hey, you got a.

C (66:35)

Good handle on it from what I hear.

B (66:37)

I wish I did, but I don't. But we'll see what happens. So definitely we're on the same page. I mean, we're.

C (66:45)

Keep an eye on Taiwan. Keep an eye on that situation. I think that's, that's the, the, I think Trump, Putin and she got together and said, Trump said, I'll be the bad guy first, which is his first term. And then Putin said, I'll be the bad guy second. And then she said, I'll be the final bad guy.

B (67:02)

Yeah.

C (67:02)

And because literally the, the end of chips coming out of Taiwan means the end of the AI build out means the end of a lot of technology that we don't even, you know, it doesn't even cross our mind that like 95 of the high speed chips come out of there. So it's like the end of the Tesla cars and shit like that.

A (67:23)

Right, right.

C (67:24)

It's so big and so important that it would, it would destroy the financial system and the derivative bubble.

B (67:30)

Yeah, well, we'll have to see how this all plays out. Hey, Bix, thank you very much for being on the X22 reports. But like, if people wanted to see your work, where should they go?

C (67:39)

YouTube. Road to route or road to rooter.com for the website.

B (67:43)

All right, great. I'll put all the links at the bottom of the video. Bix, once again, thank you very much for being on the Spotlight. I appreciate it.

C (67:49)

Great time. Thanks Dave.

A (67:50)

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B (69:39)

Here's a question most people never ask.

A (69:41)

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B (70:23)

There'S no guarantee of any kind of Sam.