X22 Report Spotlight: Devin Nunes — Power Is Key To The Future, No Escape From Grand Conspiracy, Trials Will Happen In Florida

Podcast: X22 Report
Host: X22 Report
Guest: Devin Nunes (CEO, Trump Media & Technology Group)
Date: December 26, 2025

Episode Overview

This in-depth episode features Devin Nunes returning to the X22 Report Spotlight to discuss the future of energy, the deep-rooted political and legal conspiracies affecting the United States, and his latest ventures, including a landmark merger into nuclear fusion technology and his ongoing winemaking passion. The conversation spans transformative technological investments, America’s energy independence, perceived institutional corruption, and the pursuit of justice following years of political turmoil. The tone is candid, future-focused, and laced with personal anecdotes.

Main Sections & Key Insights

1. Transforming Energy with Nuclear Fusion and Bitcoin

Timestamp: 03:00 – 19:49

• Trump Media & Technology Group’s Strategic Shift:
  After going public and building a robust balance sheet, Nunes’s company is moving beyond free speech and digital infrastructure. It’s now leading a major push into advanced energy by merging with TAE, a preeminent nuclear fusion company.
• Fusion as the Future:
  “It’s the advent of AI—all these data centers are coming online... People are finally realizing that windmills and solar panels aren’t going to cut it. There’s been a renaissance in nuclear power.” (Nunes, 05:00)
• TAE Merger Significance:
  TAE boasts over 1,600 patents and 25 years of innovation. With Trump Media’s financial backing (including significant Bitcoin reserves), they’re poised to build America’s first commercial fusion reactor, aiming for a 50MW prototype with future reactors scaling to 350-500MW.
• Energy, AI, and Infrastructure:
  Nunes frames abundant, affordable electricity as foundational to AI, industry, and consumer prosperity, warning, “None of that works without cheap, abundant power.” (07:48)
• Technological Edge Over China:
  The US must win the fusion race to counter heavy Chinese investment in energy infrastructure. “This is a race against China.” (Nunes, 17:47)

Notable Quote

“This is, I call it, the most important issue at the highest level since the first Manhattan Project, because this is essentially the second generation of that first Manhattan project …”
— Devin Nunes (15:25)

2. The Case for Nuclear Fusion — Technology and Geopolitics

Timestamp: 10:57 – 19:49

• Fusion vs. Fission & Renewables:
  Nunes rules out renewables at scale and sees little movement on larger traditional fission projects. Fusion, especially using boron fuel, promises virtually unlimited and clean energy, without radioactive byproducts.
• Commercialization Timeline:
  TAE is finalizing the site for its first commercial reactor, with construction to start soon. Nunes emphasizes that the permitting process is more streamlined since “there’ll be no radioactive waste. It can essentially be anywhere.” (28:02)
• Why It Matters Nationally:
  “If we succeed, we maintain our economic supremacy globally for a long, long time, because most of the energy in the world will, I think, switch over to nuclear fusion over the course of time.” (Nunes, 19:10)

3. On Free Speech, Censorship, and Trump Media

Timestamp: 07:53 – 09:42

• Taking on Big Tech:
  Nunes recaps how True Social emerged as an alternative for those silenced and “canceled,” developing proprietary tech for free speech and investing in decentralization and predictive markets.
  • “Had to get people their voices back and...get out of what I call the Internet ghetto.” (08:46)

4. Unpacking the “Grand Conspiracy” and Legal Developments

Timestamp: 30:08 – 44:09

• Failure of Institutional Accountability:
  Nunes laments “hopelessly corrupt” courts, citing examples where high-profile figures like James Comey and Letitia James escape significant consequences while political prosecutions are wielded as weapons.
• His Congressional Oversight Work:
  Nunes references his leadership in uncovering Russia-related intelligence abuses, noting key documents were hidden, withheld, or targeted during the Mar-a-Lago raid.
• Continuing the Investigation:
  “It brings me to this, X, is that there’s a conspiracy that went on. Conspiracy does not have a statute of limitations.” (B: 35:52)
• Venue Shift for Trials:
  Nunes argues Florida is the natural legal venue for upcoming indictments linked to the Russia hoax and related activities, connecting these to broader institutional corruption.
  • “You don’t bring it in California, can’t bring it in D.C. or New York... the crimes occurred against the president, his family, his campaign...centered in Palm Beach.” (40:38)

Notable Quote

“It’s going to be the only way we can bring closure to this dark chapter in American history. And, you know, if people pay the price, you’ll see change. If they continue to get away with it … things will get worse.”
— Devin Nunes (41:39)

5. The Timeline & Outlook for Justice

Timestamp: 42:22 – 44:09

• Speed and Thoroughness:
  Thanks to accumulated evidence from prior investigations (House, Horowitz, Durham), Nunes expects that “it doesn’t really take long… the new evidence that’s been provided … should make it pretty easy.” (42:32–43:41)
• Gravity of the Legal Case:
  The breadth of evidence, especially with recent disclosures, intensifies the prospects for prosecution:
  “You don’t just have a little bit of evidence now. You have a lot more being built on top of one another… it’s 10 times worse on what they’ve done.” (Host, 44:00)

6. Personal Passions: Nunes’s Wine Venture

Timestamp: 44:09 – 51:49

• From Capitol Hill to Vineyards:
  Nunes transitions from geopolitics to wine, explaining his hands-on approach in crafting small-batch Portuguese varietals from San Luis Obispo, California.
• Philosophy & Craft:
  “I put everything I got into every project that I work on and you try to reach for perfection. I would say my wines are as good as any in the world.” (B: 48:17)
• Wine Club Incentives:
  Listeners are invited to join the wine club or purchase directly (devinnuneswines.com), with free shipping for X22 listeners.

Memorable Moment

“You can come out and, like you did, and virtually taste every barrel, every wine. And I think you have to have that real quality control to make something that is perfect.”
— Devin Nunes (50:48)

Notable Timestamps

| Timestamp | Topic/Quote | |-----------|-------------| | 05:00 | “Windmills and solar panels aren’t going to cut it. There’s been a renaissance in nuclear power.” — Nunes | | 15:25 | “Most important issue at the highest level since the first Manhattan Project...” | | 17:47 | “This is a race against China.” — Nunes | | 28:02 | “There’ll be no radioactive waste, it can essentially be anywhere.” — Nunes | | 35:52 | “Conspiracy does not have a statute of limitations.” — Nunes | | 40:38 | “It’s the place, the natural...centered in Palm Beach” — Nunes, on venue for trials | | 41:39 | “Only way we can bring closure to this dark chapter in American history...” — Nunes | | 48:17 | “I put everything I got into every project... to perfection.” — Nunes on winemaking |

Episode Vibe & Language

The conversation is frank, passionate, future-oriented, and unapologetically conservative. Nunes and the host speak with a sense of mission—whether discussing technological progress or the battle against perceived corruption—punctuated by humor and personal tales (especially about wine).

Summary for Listeners

This episode isn’t just about politics; it’s about the crossroads of freedom, energy innovation, and accountability in America’s future. Devin Nunes offers an insider’s perspective on why energy independence, justice reform, and even personal passions like winemaking matter for the nation’s vitality. Listeners come away informed on the cutting edge of fusion technology, awakened to longstanding conspiracies in government, and encouraged to pursue passionate craftsmanship—no matter the arena.

Learn more or connect:

• TAE fusion company
• Devin Nunes Wines (X22 for free shipping)