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Good morning.
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Hey, good morning, Jen.
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Y' all just missed Mike playing an instrument with his face. We cut it out.
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It's a way to get yourself to wake up.
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And I thought you were doing it because you were tired.
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No, just a little bit, you know, Gotta vitalize as it gets my cheeks rosy.
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Okay.
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Matches my new haircut.
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That color looks really good on you. Maybe it's the haircut, but I like it.
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Can I acknowledge something real quick?
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Yeah.
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You're wearing a sweatshirt and a blanket, and I am in shorts and a T shirt here like this.
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I have hormone problems.
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Pregnant?
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No. But also, I look like I went swimming because I just got done playing tennis outside, and my hair is, like, soaking wet from sweat, so I think I'm cold. So you're saying I've been an athlete.
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For two hours, so you're unclean.
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Oh, I'm stanky. I am stanky right now.
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That's awesome.
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Yeah.
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How did you do in tennis?
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I mean, I'm always average.
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Good.
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And that's a really good day. Whenever that happens. I really love it.
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You're professional average tennis player.
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Yeah.
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That makes sense to me.
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I'm like, when is the addiction gonna wear off? I don't think it will, and it makes me sad. This is actually. Let's get deep for a second.
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Okay.
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I actually, like. I know I shouldn't rethink, like, what I did in middle school, high school, college, because everything led me to this life. And, you know, I wouldn't. I would never say I have an average life, but I never once tried sports, and I'm so competitive.
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Right.
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I'm not saying I would be good at it, but it's, like, kind of a shame. I. I have a mindset. I feel like, of an athlete as far as, like, I want to win. I'll do anything to try to win. I'm a competitor, but the skill just doesn't match it.
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You also acknowledge that early on in your youth that if you still have tendency to this, if it's something you're, like, not quickly good at.
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Yeah.
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You just don't do it. You're like, I'm not doing that.
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Heck, no. I told you this. I had friends growing up that were like, you're annoying because you're good at everything. And I'm like, no, I'm not. I just only do things in front of y' all that I know I will be decent at. Otherwise, I'm not doing.
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A little fear of failure going on with you. Is this what you're like? It's a whole nother podcast we can unravel.
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I'm not saying it's healthy.
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So today is a different one.
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Yes.
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We're kind of gonna little pivot on this one. There's some questions from the audience that came through. Right. And one that seemed to be a theme.
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Huge.
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Which kind of comes back to your youth is that today is about Disney World. Let's do that again.
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Practice that. But I was like, is he gonna.
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Say Disney or is he gonna say.
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I didn't know if you were just gonna say Disney or Disney World. So I was like kind of looking at a peripheral.
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I mean it's kind of. This is an adjunct to Disney.
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Yes.
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You're. You're a Disney kid.
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I. You're a Disney adult is what they're called.
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And well, you started as a Disney kid.
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I.
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Well, you're on the Mickey Mouse Club for about eight years. Which was awesome. She was with Britney Spears. Did you think you're right after Britney and Justin got off. Right.
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You know what? You know what? I really hope that a junk. Trash that up picks that up and publish.
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Let's go.
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Because of all the incorrect cubic. Incorrect stuff that gets written about me and my family. That would be a fun one.
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When you finish. When you finished up your first TV series you turned 18 and I was a producer on one of your shows that was going to be picked up as a pilot. That's how we met.
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Yeah.
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There we go. There's some junk. There's some junk for the.
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You think they'll take it? Will they take it?
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No, that's true. None of that's true.
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We should put one sentence in each podcast.
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They can be picked up as junk.
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False.
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Yeah.
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And see, we should plan it ahead for the next one. Okay. And then they'll try to guess it. The people who listen. I think that next plan.
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One. One false. Just one false false battle that seems. Seems weird. And is it.
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But we'll acknowledge like what it is.
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But what is real later. That's a whole. We just cover that in a couple conspiracy ones. What is real?
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What is real?
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What is this podcast even real?
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What's real is you were going to say something about your hair and then.
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We went oh yeah. Isn't it nice?
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Yeah, it looks good. You got a haircut.
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Thank you.
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In Vegas. Which is very random.
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Wasn't. There's a barber shop in the whole. In the hotel. And I was like I'm gonna go get a haircut because I'm here. I have nobody. It's not like I'm taking away time. It's literally the longest haircut ever had in my entire life. I'm not kidding. It was really. Took an hour and a half. The guy was like, doing.
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What was she doing?
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He was like, one hair, like, one at a time. And he was super good. I mean, he did a good job. Did a great job, but it was.
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An hour and 20 minutes for a man's hair trim.
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Yeah. I mean, while I was there, an hour and a half. It was an hour. I was at least a little over. Over an hour in the chair, which is super long. But again, huh, it was great. He was a nice guy. And just. I was watching sports there. The TV's on in there, and it was nice.
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Why don't I. Why don't I try to cut your hair? Saves money. It's just a guy's haircut. How hard could it be?
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Huh? I'm not sure that's. That would work out well.
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I could hold the hair and cut it like, barber.
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You could.
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I mean, you.
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You have some design skills. We. I don't know, but I model.
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I shape it like a design shape.
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My problem. We have tried to use the clippers. It'd be like. Like part of. I'd have the reverse Caesar, where basically I'd have a bowl cut here and long on the side so it would look good.
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Okay, so the lady who left a comment asking why Mike always wears a hat, now you can be like, look, lady, no hat.
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It's. Well, it's. Maybe I was just a robot. The other Mike I like, didn't really have it.
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I like it. I love it when you wear a hat.
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To answer that question, Jen actually is the one that always, like, put a hat on. And I'm like, you don't like the way I look? And I cry a little bit.
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That's gonna be the freaking headline. No.
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Well, you don't. You don't like.
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That's a falsity.
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When I shave. I don't like. You don't like my face.
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Whatever. It's like the lady who. Every time I see a comment that's like, jen, you talk too fast. I want to be like, I'm sorry. What if I said to you. Or, Jen, you need to slow down. What if I was like, well, you need to speed your brain up. No, that's.
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That'd be.
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Keep up.
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But here's. Here's the fun fact. No, that'd be rude if we do to talk. Talk too fast. You always can put us on 0:75 replay on a podcast. It's an option.
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Yeah.
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If we talk too slow, you can speed us up.
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If we talk too fast for your brain, you can slow it down.
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I still loved. We did this last. It was last. Gosh, fire. It's been almost three years. Like, what, listening to a podcast at 075. I challenge you to go back and listen to the conspiracy theories at 0.75 because it's going to look. Sound like we are stoned out of our brain.
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Were we talking slow?
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No, because it slows it down and everyone kind of talks like this.
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I. I don't know. I don't. I don't. I genuinely don't think I talk fast. I think I talk. Women talk fast in general, for sure.
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I just think it's where you're raised. I really do. I talk fast. You talk fast. That's our dialog.
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Interrupt.
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Yeah.
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Each other. But we don't cons. We actually talked about this. I think we're definitely doing better because with podcasting, it can get jumbled. So we're trying to, like, let each other finish. But we are active, engage external conversationalists. And so, like, if we agree with that, like, we will add to it quickly and not wait for that pause. Otherwise, either of us will not stop talking, essentially.
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But there is something very powerful about a uncomfortably long pause. Well done.
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Man. That was good. That's really good.
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You want to disrupt a conversation when you ask somebody a question and you just wait and you. You like literally this whole thing about interviewing techniques and. And negotiation techniques and things that I've gone through. And when you're talking, like, a long pause, sometimes people answer. They ask you a question. If you just sit for a while, they'll answer the question you want to have. So, like, people, like, basically give you more information than they should by just pausing.
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I think all of my friends know this. Actually. I was just talking to Haley about this, like, 30 minutes ago. I don't do well with silence, and, like, that's awkwardness to me. And so I will always talk, even if it's, like, someone I don't know as well or maybe there's something going on there. I will always choose to talk and have dialogue and ask questions, then avoid. I think avoiding is, like, makes it so uncomfortable. I think there's also, like, oh, this is a hot take, and I guess I'm gonna offend people. But I also think there's, like, weakness when you, like, want to avoid something or someone because it's, like, uncomfortable. I don't avoid. I'll go and like face it head on. So where I can feel like I feel like it is.
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Well, I mean, okay, over time you're talk. Yeah, I'm gonna.
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There's like an awkward.
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Like qualify that and saying like don't like it's okay to take a pause and not confront something immediately. You're saying like avoiding it all together forever.
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Yeah. Like if I had a conflict with a friend and then or acquaintance and I just avoid and never talk. That's not how I. I would rather just fix it and everybody moves on and be is happy. I guess I'm talking about like conflict in relationships or whatever. I'm not an avoider. If I think anything's happening, I instantly am like picking up the phone and I'm like, are we good? Like, I didn't mean it like this. Like I just want to smash it and it makes me really uncomfortable.
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We talked about that. But it's kind of way we do our relationship. And there's times where I'll have to like, if it's something I disagree with or we're having a fight, I'll be like, just give me a minute. Let's talk later. But yeah, we do try to resolve things almost always before bed. Like, I don't like going to bed with unmet expectations.
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So speaking of that and talking about that just got me there because of the silence thing. But we are going to talk about. Yeah, I'm bad with that. But today there's going to be no silence to be had because it's a.
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Perfect transition into Disney.
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Disney. There will be no silence today because I could talk about Disney forever.
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Yeah. My first trip, we could have an entire podcast on Disney pins. Which by the way, is really stupid. I'm sorry. Like, I know people I might offend.
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People don't yuck on someone's yum.
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I know. They're so dumb.
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I know. I won't. It's the worst thing ever. Okay, I love pins, but we'll stop with that conversation. I'm going to talk about the first time I went to Disney. I was actually pretty old. I was 14 the first trip I went to Disney Grandma, which would mean cult. My youngest brother was 9, so he was great 9. And my other brother was 11, so they were like peak ages. I. I think of going right. But I never was like. I mean, if you look back at like the photos we have framed and stuff, like I'm wearing the ears at 14. Like I'm. I pretty sure I was a Freshman in high school.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, so pumped.
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You were already pretty integrated into the whole Disney movie world, right? I mean, you loved all the movies, right?
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Yeah, I grew up with the classics like Lion King, Aladdin. All the ones you made out to. I was.
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I did like two.
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And when they.
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As I always say, a whole new world. That's. It was true. It was true. Just context. Context changes everything.
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Okay, when Aladdin. What year did Aladdin come out? We just googled this recently.
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I think it was 92. And then I was 4, and then Lion King was 94.
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Okay.
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I think that's right.
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Okay. So, yeah, I grew up as like, staple childhood. Like, that's what we watched. We're like the animated, in my mind, classic Disney movies. Like Snow White, too. And you grew up not with Disney animation as a child.
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No, I mean, we. No, not. I mean, yes and no. I mean, we.
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No, you had like the. The. The men. The Muscle man that I've never heard of. What's. Who's the action figure that you liked watching?
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G.I. joe?
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No. I mean, maybe, but not him.
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Transformers?
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No.
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Voltron?
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Muscle Man? No. He has a muscle guy. He had muscles.
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He man.
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Yeah.
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All those are classics. All those are great.
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Well, I don't know who that.
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And those are all better than Disney when I was a kid.
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Shut respectfully. All the way up.
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It may have changed. My opinions can change. No, there's no, like, G.I. joe.
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Mickey Mouse, get out of the. Yeah.
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When you're 7 to 11. And also at the same time, it was. See, I didn't. I didn't. My mom wasn't this. We couldn't. Just couldn't afford, like, all the big stuff. But one of my friends had Castle Grayskull. And so for all that. That's not a guy. It's a castle. It's the base. He man got it lived.
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Oh, that's.
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He's a power.
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He man's a prince.
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Yeah, he was. Prince Andrew was. Oh, gosh, Lord, I can break it down. No, he was a young, kind of squirty, squirty little guy. And then he would be like, by the power of Brace Gold, and he'd raise his sword up and lightning bolt struck on him. He turned into this, like, jackdawided out dude who was like slain skeletons and guys with two heads and BE stores and stuff like that. It's rad.
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Sounds violent.
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Anyway, class of Grayskull was a skull castle. Oh, pretty awesome.
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So, however, it's like Cinderella's castle.
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Yes, but for boys. So basically it was dolls for boys. It was the whole. Watch that whole. Remember we watched the one documentary about the toys that made us.
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Yeah.
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By the way, highly recommend it. It's pretty awesome. Pretty nostalgic, but it's like all the. The business and why they happen. But it was right on. I mean, exactly like you visualize yourself. Well, that's a good word. Visualize yourself through them and.
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Yeah.
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But anyway, there was a whole conspiracy that it was a satanic toy, like.
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Kiss kids in service of Satan, you know?
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Right.
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Remember the Cabbage Patch Dolls? My mom would never let me have one because they were named after dead witches.
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Yeah. Yes.
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There was wild Christianity stuff in the 90s, y'.
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All.
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Like, wild.
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I mean, sneaking it in. We're sneaking in. In the devil and through kid. Children's toys.
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Okay. So.
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By the way, I never. I didn't. I never became a Satanist because of. Of human.
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Thank. Was close. Thank goodness.
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Thank you, Jesus, for protecting me.
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Thank you, Labu. Okay.
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The boo boos are the same.
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So I talked about Berkeley getting la boo boo on Instagram stories, and I got a couple of messages that are like, you need to Google that. They're evil and satanic and they. Another person said they're evil entities inside of them.
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I sure hope not.
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Is the devil moving through stuffed keychains now? Is that, like his way through? Through. I don't know. It's my. It's a hard sell for me on that one. It's a stuff.
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It's a whole nother podcast. I mean, I do think there's this.
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I don't know about that stuff.
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Moving to this.
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I don't think Satan's gonna put an evil entity in a keychain. I just really don't. I think there's more impactful ways.
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I mean, if people are reselling those on the market and they're getting, you know, five times what they're worth, then there's.
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You think it's.
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That's evil.
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There's always like. I feel like every decade there's something that you sell or that you keep because it's going to pay for your college. Beanie Babies didn't hit. They made too many. Where Labubus are doing it right is they. They're so smart. They do scarcity. So they don't have as many. They can't keep up, which is good for them. 2. They made a mystery experience. So you're unboxing. Which is what they did with the. The LOL dolls. The lol. Little surprise Dolls. Remember how you opened up, you didn't know which one you're gonna get cracked that ball open.
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It's like the smart. Was it you you for you kept showing up in your feed back in the Facebook days where the lady would open oysters or something or clams. You remember that?
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Why are you out me like that? Okay, okay, let's talk about it. Okay.
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What is this?
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I can't believe he talked about. So there is a time. It's an mlm. Every once in a while, I would get one on my Facebook and I'd be like, how do people watch someone shelling open a clam to see what pearl they get? And then they make jewelry with it, but you have to pay for the clam ahead of time. And then you don't know what color or anything you'll get from inside, right? And I just remember one night, I watched one for probably 45 minutes, maybe longer, and I was like, this actually is thrilling. What color will Shelley get from Washington? Like, I was like, what's wrong with me? My time is more valuable than this. Like. But you caught me surprises.
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It's all you ever like, surprise. Everyone likes.
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It wasn't like I was, like, into it and, like, I'm gonna buy. It was like, how is everyone so into this? And by me thinking that way, I got sucked into it.
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So a month later, we have a whole like. Like, aquarium full of clowns.
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That's a lie.
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But I was trying to. Trying to sign up my mom and my sisters. Underneath you, it's Jen who doesn't want some clams.
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I start unclaiming, pearls on brought them to Christmas.
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Everyone, I gotta get grabbing. Great gifts for everyone.
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Oh, my gosh, I cannot believe you remember that. That was so weird. I remember that. And I remember showing you being like, these people are opening up clams on Facebook Live, and I can't stop watching. Like, they're bidding and people are paying and they're making donations. Opening clams.
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We'll speak. This is taking a. I wonder if.
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It'S still a thing.
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I don't know. We could. We could Google it later. We could Google it now, I guess, if we want to. Or we could talk about Disney.
A
Let's talk about Disney. We keep going away from it. So Disney. I was 14. Disney was my first trip. When was your first time?
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I was. It was after college, so I must have been 22. Ish.
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Wait, I thought it was your mom's 60th.
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No, I told you, I went one time. I was a girl that I was dating. She lived in Florida, and I went with her.
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What the heck was her name?
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I know. Do you want me to tell you?
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Yeah. Ally.
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Yeah.
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I knew it.
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Yeah.
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Freaking Ally.
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So we. That was.
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She sounded great. I don't know why you jacked that up.
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So. No. So that's. That's where. Yeah, that's the first time I went.
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Is it more fun with me, though?
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Oh, yeah, I know. It's more fun with kids.
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It is real fun with kids.
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I mean, that's probably why it is. I mean, like. So here's the question.
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Okay.
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Why do you think families keep going back to Disney even though it's exhausting and really expensive? Because it is on both those sides. Why. Why do. Why do people keep going back? Why do we keep going back?
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Disney is our most. If we're just going to be really transparent, Disney is our most expensive vacation. Close second is skiing. Skiing is pretty expensive for a family of five. Don't agree. But go back to Disney. Disney. I definitely think for me, seeing my parents like it too. My mom was like, this place. Like, she wouldn't be. Like, my mom's not a weirdo. She's not. Like, this place is magical. It's not like this spiritual thing. But she'd be like, this is so fun. Like, this place is so happy. Like, there's Disney music everywhere. And, like, nothing is done, like, half done. Like Universal, shots fired.
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Where, like, for Universal, pretty awesome.
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I haven't seen that one. But in Universal, everything's just done in the front. And then if you clear the side of the building, you see, like, the trashy building, whereas Disney is like, the. Even the backs have, like, decor. Like, everything is finished out. Some of them. They do anyway. So it's like you're on, like, a set and you. It's clean because they're always picking up the trash. I don't know. It's happy. I like, it's nostalgic for me. And so when I first married Mike, we went, I think the first time together when I was pregnant with Vaughn maybe, and I said, you better buckle up and get freaking used to shelling out the cash for this because we're going and I want to go a lot.
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So my first experience to Disney as an adult. Adult. So it was with my mom 60th, and I had a great time and it was cool. And she brought all my, you know, she bought my sisters and, you know, the nieces and nephews, and it was. It was a lot of fun. We had a lot of Fun. I was like, okay, I can see how this is pretty cool. And I actually had great memories from there. And. And then when. Gosh, when. Yeah, our first time together is when you're pregnant with Vaughn. And it must have been October, because it was when the Fright Fest thing.
A
I think it was pretty sure it's not so scary. Mickey's Halloween party.
B
Same difference, right? Fest is actually at Universal.
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Fest is terrifying.
B
We went to. We did that two years ago. Three years ago. Anyway, long story short, find a picture of. So you. We went with you and your aunt. Ex husband bought everyone the. The, like behind, like the guided tour.
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The guide. No. Yes.
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And I never experienced. So my old. Another time is. All my other experiences at Disney was like, you know, waiting in line. They didn't know how to use the passes. And strangely, it is. Is. And it'll kind of fast forward. Like, some of the point of this is if you don't know what that is, it makes it really complicated and stressful because you're waiting in lines 99 of the time. Once you kind of understand the hacks and the apps and the fast passes and all things, you have to learn it. You learn that it makes it a lot better experience. But that guided tour broke me to, like, I know, like, how do we not do Disney that way?
A
I know it was crazy. And that was, like, years ago. So we went to Disney lots of times, obviously, without a guided tour after that. But yes, my uncle paid for that. So you can. The way the guided tour is, you can have up to 10 people. So it's really. So if you don't know even know what we're talking about at Disney World, we always go to the Orlando. I'm sure they have them at Disneyland too. Actually, I'm not sure. I don't know, but I'm sure they do. In Orlando, they're guided tours, and you pay by the hour. It's like a minimum of six hours. It is expensive. It's very expensive. But if you do it with, like, combined families, like three or four families, and you split it, it's still expensive. It's. It's still expensive. But, I mean, Mike got to the point where he was like, I kind of only want to do that if we're gonna go to Disney, because how it works is we bust through, like 20 rides in a day, probably more. And then the rest of the trip, we've gotten to do so many things because we take the rest of the trip pretty slow, and we'll stop and eat at new food places that we've been at because we've ridden everything that we wanted to hit. And then it makes ever. I mean we will stop at every parade. Like all the things that like you're like this is so expensive. We're not watching an hour parade. We need to get this ride while everyone else is at the parade with their backs turned. And it like we've enjoyed this. The banger bears of banjo.
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Keep going. Keep trying.
A
Bang the bangies. Country Jamboree.
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You make fun of me. There it is.
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Country Jamboree.
B
But like the beach.
A
Such a cute show that they just redid.
B
Yeah.
A
And we did that because I told them I'm like we're going to do everything today that we haven't done like a few trips back. And we've gotten to experience so much because we feel like it's worth it in that there's other things too. Like why we like the guided tours. But anyway, I understand we're very privileged to be able to do.
B
Oh yeah, for sure.
A
For sure.
B
It's another thing is is even again it's the value of the time that you have and also if like how often you go and there are people that like, you know if you save up and they go once every five, 10 years and you save up for it might be worth it because you're integrating. You're gonna. You're not going to be waiting in line 75 of the time which is.
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Right.
B
A lot of the. The frustrations and probably that come people that have with it. This is like. Yeah it is. Even a base ticket's not super dream now people spend in and it is, it's.
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It's angering to be.
B
But you have but they've but been using those fast passes and paying for those things like to be able to get them that actually you can plan your trips out.
A
Yeah.
B
But you can't. You can't just free gun it. It's not one of those things where you can go out and and just say like let's see what we get on today. If you're not using those passes. Well, you can't.
A
I will say and I'm not trying to brag here but my skills with Disney World are very good and you're good too. But we have literally booked a plan a trip last minute trip not on a popular time. So we took the kids out of school a month in advance and somehow we were able to go to all these restaurants that we wanted because I stay on the app and everything and I try to book yeah. If you're going off, we're squeak with the apps. So, like, you know, so here's what I'm going to say. Let's back up. What are we talking about? Disney, for one. We'll just share our experience. Two people want to know, like, how to navigate it.
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Yep.
A
I'm going to go ahead and start with I've done Disney two different ways. I've done Disney as a child. I don't even want to say on a budget because we still ate at the restaurants. Like, my parents, they spent a lot on that trip. I don't know how much, but it's.
B
What you choose what you're choosing to spend your money. I didn't.
A
Yeah, I.
B
We. I didn't grow up with the means as a child to travel out of the state. I never left. I only would leave the state to visit my dad in Wisconsin or Minnesota when he lived there. And my stepmother was a flight attendant so I could fly to go see him. And besides that, I never went out of the country. The only trips I never went out, which also. Which goes into, like, my childhood experience, was going to Wisconsin Dells, which we still bring our kids to every year when I visit my family. And it was awesome.
A
I love that.
B
And that was just kind of my own world. And I didn't feel like I needed Disney. So if you're a parent, that's like, I want my kids to have that experience. I don't think that's not. Like, this isn't the same.
A
Like, you don't need it.
B
Disney. You don't need a lot of other things.
A
Yeah.
B
Just go find some time to spend some special time with them. Taking camping or something.
A
It doesn't take much. However, I get asked about, like, what to do at Disney and how to do Disney so often.
B
So if you're going to go to Disney.
A
So if you're gonna go to Disney, this is for you. Maybe there'll be some, like, funny stories in between for those who don't care. But anyway, so now when we do Disney, by the way, I plan this trip back in, like, I don't know, January. And my kids made me promise that I'll never, ever tell them about a trip this far in advance ever again. They're like, this is the worst. Tell us one month. Like, they do not want to know ahead of time because they have just been. We have been counting down the days of Disney since February. And so I have a little. Literally, I have an app that the Disney app that tells us when our Trip is anyway. So yes. I just want to put that out there. We do have a different experience because we do that guided tour.
B
We don't do it the whole time.
A
We don't. We do it one day.
B
Like if we. If we're going to go for five days, we do it for one day. If this isn't like, hey, let's every day have it.
A
So let's qualify. Let's do the one day. We have our tour guide that we try to get the same one every time. He's amazing, he's fantastic. And it just gets us on to things quickly. Anyway, so with that being said, I do feel like we have done a ton of things as far as food. What's your favorite food to go? Like a must have. If they go to Disney World.
B
Sit down or quick serve.
A
Let's do first. We'll do sit down. Well, not fine dining, but yeah, sit down.
B
So gonna be a hot take because you can get it kind of anywhere. But it's always because I'm super exhausted and I just wait.
A
Can I guess?
B
Well, I'm explaining the reason why I like it. It's always because it's usually because I'm. It's end of the day exhausted.
A
Okay.
B
Hot.
A
Okay.
B
And you go into this place and it's cool. Okay. Smells like chlorine.
A
Smells like chlorine. Hold on. Don't tell me.
B
It's weird. It's a weird.
A
Don't tell me.
B
And you can get a margarita.
A
Oh, you like the San angel and do in Mexico.
B
I really do.
A
I love that I found that place.
B
Weird thing is, is I can get Mexican food in Texas. Like some of the best in the world. I mean, outside Mexico. But it's. It's. It's really good. And I love it more because of this. The. The nostalgic.
A
So it's really dark and cold. And they have that servers. They have good servers. Remember the little line with Donald Duck and his nephews? And it's like never has a wait. So if you go.
B
So you get to wait and do.
A
That San angel in.
B
What is it? The Los Cabreros.
A
Yes.
B
Yeah.
A
So the San Angel Inn. I stumbled upon it like three years ago. Walked into the Big. It's the Big.
B
It's a temple. It's like. Like a Mayan temple.
A
Okay. Yes. So it's that inside there behind all the marketplace. It. The food is really, really good. And then, yeah, you sit down and it's nice and cold outside. Do you know my favorite? Sit down.
B
Is it. What is it one of the, like, Beauty and the Beast one? No, no. Oh, it's the beer garden.
A
Yes. If you guys haven't eaten at Beer Garden in Germany. Epcot. Epcot's gonna win all day long.
B
Epcot is. It's the place for food.
A
I love Epcot.
B
It's the best.
A
That's a hot take. People don't like Epcot. It's our family's favorite park, hands down. Even the kids. And then second to that would be Magic Kingdom for me. No, you can't tell me I'm wrong. That's my opinion.
B
I thought you're saying the family. You're qualifying it as.
A
What's your opinion?
B
Hollywood Studios.
A
Because it has all like the big.
B
Yeah, that's spiked up is like. I think it's. I think that's our kids favorite because it has Tower of Terror. It has the Star wars area, which is my favorite place. Also my favorite quick serve restaurant there.
A
Yeah.
B
Is that cantina one there?
A
Yeah. I do not share that with you.
B
I love that.
A
It's like one of my least favorites.
B
And then Toy Story with all the roller coasters.
A
Totally.
B
And what's the. What's the rock and roller coaster? They just did it. Is it open?
A
It's not Aerosmith anymore. It's gonna be Muppets for real. Yeah.
B
Really?
A
I know everyone's a little confused on that. And then they could be cool. Yeah. But they had the Muppets attraction, that theater, and they closed that.
B
Yeah.
A
So they're making that. Monsters Inc. Which I totally understand. And I. I love. And then they're gonna make the rock and roll roller coaster Muppet theme.
B
They should have made it like a slipknot one.
A
Like the band.
B
System of the down.
A
Like a little Disney collab.
B
We didn't need hardcore.
A
No. Okay. So, yeah. And then growing up, I've actually stayed in quite a few of the resorts because growing up I stayed in different places than like where we stay now. I remember the Grand Floridian. Grand Floridian being like. It was the nicest at the time. And I'll never forget the trip that we stayed at the Grand Floridian. My parents were pumped.
B
First one.
A
No, it's not the first trip. First trip we stayed in. I want to say it was the. It's the. No, it's like the New Orleans themed. The French Quarter or something like that. We stayed there. I can't remember where we stayed. We stayed at Polynesian.
B
Polynesian.
A
Before it was updated.
B
That was the first place you and I stayed. Was at the Polynesian and Hotel. It's like a motel. It used to be.
A
No, used to be.
B
I felt like when the rooms were, like, motel rooms.
A
Really?
B
Oh, my gosh. They were so bad.
A
I wouldn't say, like, all of Disney has, like, the best hotel rooms, but if it's not themed, like, Disney, I don't want it.
B
She doesn't want it.
A
I'm not spending all this money to not have Disney shoved in my face all the time.
B
There's other good hotels in.
A
There are other good hotels, but Florida.
B
There are a lot. The Lowe's hotel we stayed at, we went to Universal was super nice.
A
Totally. But if it's not blowing Disney theme up my butt, I don't want it. I want to be constantly Disney in my face.
B
You pay the premium because you actually have somebody blowing Disney in your butt. That's what happens. There's a man that comes in, and he's a pipe.
A
Okay, now it's getting too visual. And now there's humans involved. No.
B
Sort of an animatronic blows.
A
Mike always. Mike always says, like, let's stay at the Swan and Dolphin. I'm like, you go stay at the Swan and Dolphin. I'm staying at the Riviera.
B
Look, we. So that's. Okay. I'll say this. There are. There. We stayed at the Grand Floridian last time. Freudian.
A
Grand Floridian.
B
Sigmund Freud, dessert.
A
Love the Grand Floridian because it has the monorail.
B
It is nice. And the pools are nice. There. There are. We had a good time. We went with Alicia and Greg with the families. It was. That was a great place. I mean, that. That is a nice hotel. It is very nice.
A
It's so nostalgic.
B
But. But Riviera we like, because you can get one room, and all the rooms are kind of like mini suites, and we can jam our family of five in one room. Yeah, that's what I like.
A
Well, you're also bougie. So Mike is sitting here talking about how it's all expensive. Mike is the one who needs the nicer. Wants the nicer hotel room. He wants to be comfortable. I remember being married to you, and I'd be like, you know, we can. We can say, this Motel 6 is cheap. And you were like, absolutely not.
B
No, it's not happening.
A
Like, it could be that I was, like, 22.
B
I also got spoiled on the fact that I had a corporate expense account that I traveled a ton, and we were always staying at nicer hotels. That was just, like, the standard of what you did. And so you get this, I guess, comfortability of like, oh, I want to sleep well, at least if I'm going to be away from home, I want to sleep comfortably. But also, you and I have said many times, like, we are very, we, we are very selective with our money.
A
You know, you know, from day to.
B
Day, give to God, give to charity, save money. And then when we, where we do spend money is on vacations. That is the one place that we do choose that if we're going to splurge, is more on the vacation side of thing. And that's because I, I like the idea of creating experiences.
A
Yes.
B
And it's maybe partially. I didn't have as many opportunities as a kid, so it's like, I want that to be with my children without making them feel like, you know, grazing and be entitled. Little. Little.
A
Yeah.
B
People. But true. That's one thing. It's a whole other podcast is like, in, in these situations, like, how do you raise people that, you know that they're not entitled to these things? Because it's not. We're just very lucky, right?
A
No. One of my kids told me that they wish I was Disney mom all the time. Just, just at Disney World because money doesn't matter. I was like.
B
She said that.
A
I. Yes. Because I, I'm like, okay, so I took. I know I'm like, outing myself. So it's because they're used to me.
B
Is it the pins?
A
They're used to me saying, no. And like, it's too expensive. I say, we don't have the money for that. Like, my kids are so distorted. We don't have the money for that right now. Like, I'll say that all the time over, like, just dumb little things. We are not, we're not the family that gets a toy when we go grocery shopping. It's your birthday or Christmas. Like, it's very okay. But I do take that back. During the summer, I'll buy books and Legos because I like to encourage screen free time. However, anyway, so I think it's the pins. Because when I took Berkeley and her friends, whenever, like, the moms go to the bathroom, I would, like, be pin dealing in a dark alley. I'd be like, come on, guys, I got your mystery boxes. Let's open them. And all the friends are like, yay. And opening up pins. And it brings me.
B
They learned. Yeah. Like, you can the Disney employees if you have pins. And here's. I guess it would be fun as a kid. Or I guess a 37 year old or me. You. If you're a Disney person, an employee is wearing a pin and you want it, they have to trade you.
A
You have to trade them.
B
They have to, like. And if they come up to you and they don't trade you, don't trade with them, they kick you out of the park. So you have to actually give it to them as well. It's this very reciprocal thing. And it's. There's a lot of. There's a Disney jail for people that actually don't obey the rules. And that's a whole other thing. We talk about conspiracies at Disney, like the tunnels, the. The Little Mermaid. We've never talked about symbols in. In it. There's a whole bunch of things.
A
I kind of want to find those. And if I'm going to be anything like, like, you know how Taylor Swift has her fans that, like, looks for Easter eggs or everything? And I'm not like, this one could be that.
B
By the way, the. The Little Mermaid one was all, like, phallic symbols that were painted in there. Do you know this? Tell me you know this. No, 100% true.
A
Wait, in the little.
B
In the original movie, the guy painted a male genitalia like it was. It was, you know, the.
A
Oh, I saw that.
B
It's just straight up boink.
A
Just a. Just a big old dog. I love that word. Who couldn't like that word?
B
Going back just.
A
Are we going to get an explicit rating?
B
It's what it was. So. Yeah, Disney had some. From some. Some creeps and some freaks in their. In their art department, which I guess is creative people. But going back to. People back to. Going back to the, The. The thing about the kids, it was just what you. I would. I want to bring that back. He's talked about pins. About, like, the whole money thing. Yeah. We've. This is one thing we do with our kids. It's like, great. You have. You know, because they have. Saving. They have their little money that they get their birthday money, whatnot, and if they want to spend it on it. And it's amazing how often they want something. Like, cool. Yeah. You got 40 bucks. You can use that. And then it's. I don't want to buy that.
A
Yeah, they have to.
B
Yeah.
A
All of a sudden, they. It's the worst thing they've ever seen.
B
I don't want this crappy plastic sword from medieval times that I'm gonna throw away later. That's $55.
A
Yeah. Okay.
B
Suddenly they don't want it.
A
Okay, well, here. Since some people will be listening for tips and tricks. I feel like I'm not giving a lot of tips. I'm just talking about what we do. But if you want to do the pin trading, what you need to do is you can either you can find some online or you can go to the disney.com website. I don't do that because I have a very big stance on. I only buy pins, actually, when I'm at the parks, because do you know.
B
The memory of everything?
A
That's the superior way I like. Why would I buy it online? I could do that any given Tuesday. But, like, I have to buy pins on the property. However, to get your kids started in pins, you go and you buy the cheapest ones, the plainest ones, maybe a multi pack for like 30 bucks, ones that they don't truly care about, and then that's your one you're going to trade. So then you go and you find employees, you look at all their pins. Pin trading is getting really big again right now. Apparently. I saw that when we were there in January, and in all the big stores, the hotels, and sometimes even in the restaurants, there would be employees either holding massive pin boards or they would have just a pin board that you'd ask for behind the cash register. So if you go into Gaston's bar thing to get a green apple drink. Don't do it. It's disgusting. Skip that. The cinnamon rolls are good, though. I could tell you something in every restaurant, probably Gaston's. Don't get that apple drink. It's disgusting. The butterbeer that's at Universal. Stop doing that.
B
What's the what?
A
Universal's not.
B
They have another drink like that. They do have something.
A
They have stuff all everywhere. Dole whips. But anyway, so if you go into. If you go into a store and you don't see anything, you say, do you guys have a pin board? And they'll pull it from the cash register. Okay, so then you're gonna try to find these unique pins that you really like. I always tell the kids, you have to go with what speaks to you. You can't get it because.
B
This is. This is riveting. I'm in.
A
I'm serious. If the pin is not instantly, like, I can't live without this pin because I love this character, this movie so much or it means something to me or it's nostalgic. Don't get it. So that's the pins we're looking for.
B
Well, I will say this. I like, you know, I buy hats.
A
Oh, I can't wait I'm getting tingly.
B
You know, I have a tendency to collect hats. Like, I like to buy hats where I am, where I go. So I have, like, way too many ads. In fact, I need to organize them because they're, like, just piled up everywhere. But I know where every single hat I bought is from. And it creates a memory. It's like that little nostalgic thing. And if you're teaching the kids to do that as well, they're like, oh, I remember that. When my. I mean, hopefully they create something. At least there's something connected to it instead of spending right. In an absurd amount of money on a thing that you're going to.
A
Yeah.
B
Closet when you go home.
A
Yeah. The pens need to mean something to you. We have lanyards. I have a whole book. My dad. So I get it, because my dad. My dad is a collector personality. He collected DVDs as a child. We had a whole room. He made his own shelves that by hand.
B
I've never seen. I've never seen this many DVDs in a house in my entire life.
A
It's a whole room of just walls of bookshelves. And then you get little custom genre plates made in gold. So it'd be like sci fi, which is science fiction, in case anyone doesn't know.
B
Sure. That's what it is.
A
It's not sci fi for fantasy.
B
Fantasy.
A
Okay.
B
You sure Psy stands for science?
A
Yes. Science fiction.
B
Are you sure about that?
A
Like, stop lying to me.
B
Sure.
A
You're full of doo doo dog doo doo.
B
I'm asking if you're sure.
A
I'm sure.
B
Okay, good.
A
So anyway, my dad collected Disney pins, too, so I also have a massive binder book of, like, the ones that he collected. And I'm telling you, they're going to be worth a lot of money one day. There's stuff in there from, like, 1999.
B
Sounds like the Beanie Babies, but better. Sounds like Mike.
A
These don't. They're not. Oh. There's no evil entity in a Disney pin.
B
After spending 10 minutes on Disney pins, I respect and appreciate it more.
A
Oh, okay. So then if you're walking around the park, there'll be, like, group gatherings where everyone has their books out and they're literally just there to pin trade with you. But the. The trick is you have to buy, like, a starter pack that you don't care about with the pure intention of trading the pins. However, don't be so cheap that you don't get the Disney branding on the back, because then people won't Take it. So you have to. It has to have the Disney emblem on the back. Go the multi pack route. I'm telling you. Anyway, I'm so excited.
B
I should have brought my pins.
A
I got a Lizzie McGuire pin.
B
So the next episode is me, Jen, going through every single one of her pins and telling you, describing what that pin is.
A
Why do I like it?
B
Let's talk. Okay. Let's. Let's pivot from the pins. Even though they're awesome pins. You grade some great tips there, Jen. And I'm in on that one. That's not. I'm actually not. But I love it. I think it's kind of cool. I can see why people would do it. It's just. It's. It's not my thing. And that's all right. But what is my thing?
A
People are broken.
B
I do like the food. We talked about that. And I mean, you mentioned this one time, and there's this hot takes on these things. Some people love it. What dole whips? Like, what is a dole whip and where do you get it?
A
Okay, the dole whip that I. We always get is at Magic Kingdom behind Aladdin's flying carpet ride. It's back there. Like, it's like a Hawaiian. It's a quick service.
B
Yeah.
A
Place. I think they're kind. They're not my favorite. They're okay. It's like pineapple frozen yogurt to me.
B
It's. Yeah, it's. It's soft serve. It's our soft serve. And pineapple is what it is.
A
Yeah.
B
Right.
A
It's okay. It's like, you should definitely try it. Like, if you're going to Disney. It's like the big hype thing.
B
I think they're all find it.
A
I feel like awful's pretty.
B
Well, I don't order them. That's how bad. Like, you know, I don't get them. Yeah, I won't order.
A
I've tried them before.
B
Now the funnel cakes.
A
Oh, that's a different story in Epcot from America. They have like a little stand over there by that concert venue.
B
And there's another one in Magic Kingdom as well. But the funnel cakes, those.
A
Mike, I'm gonna be eating ketovore while I'm in Disney.
B
Oh, that means you're not getting any of your treats. You can cheat.
A
Hold on though. Let's see how good you know me. Do you even know me? What's my favorite one sweet treat in Disney that I always get?
B
Your favorite one sweet treat in Disney.
A
That I always order one. I take it back to the room and then I don't have a knife.
B
Oh, the caramel apple.
A
Yes.
B
Yeah, for sure.
A
Caramel apple in Germany. Epcot. It's right by beer garden. So I usually get it. It's in that little caramel chocolate shop. So good. It's a very big crisp Granny Smith apple. The caramel is so good.
B
All right. That. Those are awesome. I love the beer garden area. They have great German beers there as well.
A
So can we go back though in time where. The first time I went to Disney with Mike, he was like, I genuinely don't understand why you like this place so much. And I go, buddy, you better get used to this because we're coming here every year and I will somehow make us able to afford this in some capacity.
B
Well, we didn't for a while. We didn't. Then we did.
A
We didn't. But I was gonna gung ho try and slowly but surely Mike fell in love.
B
You create. The one reason that you sought success was for us to be a little 40 yearly Disney trip. And I appreciate that. That.
A
Thank you.
B
Or just touch me into. I look. I actually did fall in love with it because I do. Especially with Vaughn and Berkeley. One of my favorite memories I've ever had is with Berkeley. Literally my. One of my favorite. She still has this. This memory. We went one time. I remember when Vaughn got sick. Which is going to happen, by the way. Like I want to talk about handling exhausted kids and all this. That's a whole other thing that's going to happen there and setting proper expectations. But Vaughn ended up getting sick and he threw up. And that was when we were going to do that. We're supposed to go on the cruise app. There's all these things. It was a whole deal.
A
Yeah.
B
It was right before COVID It was 2020. So Berkeley, we. They had just opened up the Star wars thing and I was like, well, Berkeley, you want to go with me? So her and I went by ourselves, just dad and daughter to the Star wars land that just opened up. We got to do all the rides and we had.
A
Yeah.
B
And we went watching the fireworks together. And she still talks about that as things she felt special. And this was one of the first times I did a one on one with her. It's something big like that. And it was really cool. So it those.
A
I stayed home and took care of the sick child.
B
You wanted to. You were tired. You were exhausted. You said like I was like I'm ready to go. And Berkeley was like, I'm ready to go. Do.
A
Yeah. So I was not.
B
There are. There are so many places to create so many memories there. It is fun, and, yeah, it's expensive. But if you have a budget and you go in there and you come with proper expectations. And so my standpoint, as an advice to people, go in there with the expectations of it. It depends on your budget, like, your time, what you're going to spend, how much it is. If you're going in there thinking you're going to hit every single ride every single day, and the lines are going to be short, you're. You're not going to be happy.
A
Right.
B
And also, if you, like, one thing I say is if. If your kids on meltdown mode, what would you say? Like, suck it up, because.
A
Suck it on the buttercup. There's Mickey Wave. I'm just kidding. I think there's a lot of kids that you're going to see tons of breakdowns. But I think we're all in it together because we've all spent so much money to be here. You power through it.
B
My advice is don't push it. I'd say, like, because the thing is, it's gonna be there, like, if you come back. Yeah. If you're there to create memories for them and it's only going to create stress, go to bed early.
A
It's okay. So our trips have morphed. So when we first started taking the kids, a stroller is absolutely necessary. So I would say if you're. I'm gonna be really honest with you, and there's no judgment in this. I'm just being real. If your kid is not good at sitting in a stroller, don't go. Or unless they're like a really, really happy walker. It's just really busy. And we would power through the stroller to ride. To ride, because then you'd get there quicker, and then they'd be contained. We'd strap them in with their snack, their water. So if your kid is good or baby. All of our babies were really content being in a stroller as long as they were. We'd switch their sight line every once in a while, lay them down to nap in the stroller, sit them up.
B
To where they're talking baby, baby.
A
I'm talking babies and kids, though.
B
What's the youngest? But baby we brought there. Vivian wasn't.
A
Oh, Vaughn was like, barely a year.
B
Yeah. No, he was. He was really young.
A
She was very young. We've done it with a baby baby that was.
B
He was. But he was the youngest. And then it was A little bit later for Berkeley. Yeah, we also baby babies on the stroller thing. Get the double.
A
Get the double stroller. Put all your crap in there.
B
Exactly.
A
It's great.
B
That's one of the best things about the stroller is that if you have a backpack, which I'd actually like, get a little, you know, one of those little sling backpacks, carry that around with you. Makes life a lot easier. But, yeah, the double stroller is a must.
A
Yes.
B
For sure. And then our kids, I. They had all three jam in there when they were littler, and they would just.
A
Yeah. Just, you know, something else for them to fight about. It's fun. Get out.
B
My turn. It's my turn to be in it.
A
Oh.
B
Sit on her lap.
A
Gosh. So I would say if your toddler is not good with being contained, my stress level would not be able to handle that. I'd say wait.
B
I would. I would agree with that.
A
I would wait. It's not worth your money because the last thing you want to do is spend a lot of money and then you're miserable.
B
Honestly, I'd say wait until your kid's gonna remember it if you want to save money. If money's.
A
I like to go. So I don't really.
B
Again, no. It's just. This is depending on what is. If you have the money and you want to have the. It's great vacation, go for it. Right. But if you're going for your kids and you want them to experience it, right. Like, wait. Wait until they're gonna really actually, like, get into it. It's probably about five, six.
A
Yeah, probably. I'm trying to think of another thing with kids.
B
Oh.
A
Also, whenever I had a baby and a toddler, I would always go back for nap time, so I just made sure we stayed somewhere on the monorail so I could hop on it real quick and get to my hotel and not have to deal with walking or the bus. If you can do that. If you can stay somewhere with a monorail or any kind of, like, faster transportation than the bus. And then I just would be like, honestly, I kind of liked the break. Whenever I had a toddler, then I'd.
B
Take the kids to the pool. Usually if you go to the room, I would take Vaughn or then Vaughn and Berkeley to the pool at the resort. When you.
A
When, yeah.
B
Was young.
A
Yeah. So we. It depends on how kind of a control freak you are. I was pretty much a control freak. And, like, even we were in Disney, we still were going to take a nap so we could have a Good night. And we really stuck to that. Now that our kids are older, everything's morphed and we still, we I, we still try to go in at a normal time because I'm not a rope dropper family. But we do like to get there around a little bit before nine and so we don't rope drop per se. That's where they drop the rope at like 8am and you're running to what we don't.
B
Which is. Yeah. The interesting thing about the way Jen vacations Disney is different than other places. Everything is planned. And I remember to the freaking everything and I thought she was crazy because I like kind of winging it.
A
Nope.
B
Really, I was really this the way I like to go on vacation. Like let's go, let's not stress about it. Let's find stuff to do. It's gonna be great. Unless you have the certain events to go to. But yeah, you know, no Disney. Oh no, I'm there with you. I'm on the app trying to book up restaurants sometimes as well.
A
Have to plan it out and book.
B
Your restaurants if you want to get a reservation time.
A
Yes.
B
Like especially sit down. You have to book early.
A
So. My mom and my Aunt Molly would always spend so much time planning these trips and at the very beginning of us coming with littles, we would wing it a little bit less than what we do now because the kids couldn't write anything anyway. And so we could wing it but once they were the height to do these rides. If you're going to go to Disney, I'm not saying you have to plan it a year in advance. I plan to a T. Even whenever we went last minute with a month in advance. Doesn't matter.
B
Well, because we've done it before.
A
We've done it before. So we, I literally low key brag here. I could be a Disney planner. Like I know the ins and outs. I know how to plan. You stay on the app, you got to know how to use the app. You got to do the lightning lanes during the day. I promise you guys it's worth it, especially with kids to not have to wait in the long lines. They have a new thing now where you can pay what, 3 to $400 a day.
B
It's pretty expensive per ticket. It's 4. It's 3 to 4 extra on top of your other 100. So it's pretty expensive.
A
You got a big family but essentially everything. It's essentially a guided tour for way less. So what you do is you pay, let's say 400 in it's. What you do is you have a fast pass. One fast pass for every ride in that park that day, which is essentially the same as what you would get on a guided tour. But it's way. Okay. I don't want to say cheap. That's expensive. But cheaper.
B
It's.
A
It's cheaper than a guy going with.
B
Two people or one kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
A
Yeah.
B
But you'd mentioned something about Disney Tour. What do you call them? The. The not tour, but the planners. Like the travel agents, right?
A
Yeah, I'm sure they're great. I've just never used.
B
I would highly recommend. If you've never gone first time, I'd probably recommend finding somebody to do it because from my understanding, they don't charge more for it. But that's like Disney gives them a commission for it. So, like, the. Everything's going to cost you the same. You're just gonna have somebody who knows what the. What they're doing, and that's going to help.
A
Well, do you know what I heard is, like, there are Disney travel planners out there that while you are actively in the Disney theme park, walking around and using your lightning lanes, she or he will rebook the next one while you're on the ride.
B
Oh, I didn't know that. No. What.
A
We still should do it because we know better. I'm. I'm not.
B
So I was. I was the schlep that was in line.
A
No, no, because we know how to do it also.
B
They changed it now, though, too. But you actually can book Lightning Lanes ahead of time. Remember, like, the old way was that you would. So I remember the first time when you'd grab a ticket, remember? And then you would go back at a certain time.
A
That was how I grew up.
B
That was the old way. And then they changed it to where you could book it like seven days in advance. You could book your rides and time them out.
A
Yeah.
B
And then they changed it to where you had to be the day of and the morning of. So you had to get up at like 6am yeah. And then instantly start booking your day. Yeah, you're like in stress mode. It was like, you know, trying to get Guardians of Galaxy. So speak now. Here's. We need to get to the rides.
A
Okay, so I'm gonna ask you this question. Yeah, I have a question here. Which rides are a can't miss for families?
B
Easy. Guardians Galaxy.
A
So good. Tron is my favorite.
B
Brand new to both those rides. They are so good and worth it. Those things are. Guardians Galaxy may be the best roller coaster I've ever been on.
A
I do like Tron. I just wish it was longer.
B
It's just short.
A
It's just short.
B
But it is fun.
A
Yeah.
B
And it's doing a motorcycle. It's cool that. Right.
A
We got in trouble for filming on my phone one time in that ride I had on the loopy.
B
You need to get the. You need to get the meta glasses. I'm gonna get you those for the next trip.
A
What did those.
B
Do they have the camera in it? You know what I'm talking about? No. Oh, yeah. They're the first person like cameras. People use them all the time. They're really actually look. They look like Wayfarers. The. It's like a pretty cool style of Ray Ban. But they're super popular.
A
So you're constantly. Could be like filming anyone walking on the street.
B
Yeah, that's happened. Also. How do you think people are getting all the first person contact or. It's not like they're wearing body cameras. Most people are using the glasses now. Facebook's done really well with that partnership of Ray Ban. Super well. It's been a really, really popular.
A
Hold on. Are they expensive?
B
I think they're like 200. I don't know.
A
Can you give me that for Disney?
B
No. I can get it to you for your birthday. You can spend your own money if you really want.
A
Fine, I'll do that. Hold on. I actually want that. That's cool. Okay. Anyway, I would do it for Disney. So that's it.
B
So yeah. Those. Those riots are awesome. Our family. It's not for everyone, but our family loves Tower Terror.
A
Except Vivian.
B
But Vaughn and Berkeley love it. Love, love that I'm with Viv.
A
It's like I love it because it's Disney and I don't. I really. For me to say I dislike anything at Disney, honestly feels like I'm a traitor. I don't know if I can think of one thing I strongly dislike. Oh, the Tiki Room.
B
That's annoying.
A
Horrible.
B
And if you want to go just annoy your. Your significant other and. Or your kids take him in there and make him sit through it.
A
The whole thing.
B
Oh my gosh.
A
Your head hurts by the end of it so bad. That's in Magic Kingdom.
B
The so what? What? I have more that you can't miss. Rise the resistance. Star Wars 1's awesome.
A
Pirates of the Caribbean.
B
Pirates of Caribbean. Slinky Dog Dash, which is awesome. Our kids love that one.
A
That's a good light year one.
B
You can. That one's okay. I always beat you on. It's kind of like how do. Like you win all the time on the ride.
A
Hold on.
B
If you win all the time, like against boring, like when you know you're the best at something, you know what this man does?
A
He goes, oh, I'll take Vivi. And it starts like, oh, shoot, shoot. So cute. And then the ride starts, and at the end of it, he's double fisting the guns because Vivi's not doing it. So that's how you win, Jen.
B
It doesn't work that way.
A
Yeah, it does.
B
It works. You have your own score.
A
I know.
B
Each gun has their own score.
A
Oh, I'm thinking of Woody's roundup. We're talking about two different things. Buzz Lightyear. Yes. I'm. I'm talking about the little Toy Story one where you shoot all the targets with the. Yeah, yeah. Do both of those. They're awesome.
B
That one's great.
A
Buzz Lightyear's great. I did really get a Buzz Lightyear.
B
You did.
A
I beat Linda.
B
I still win.
A
Was it Linda, who I rode with on last trip?
B
Those are fun rides. Those are fun rides.
A
Whatever.
B
And so we can go through it. Let's. Let's make it real concise because this is. We're jumping around all the place. Magic Kingdom favorite over there.
A
Either. Tron.
B
Check. Great.
A
I liked Big Thunder Mountain, but that's going away permanently. I know.
B
Really? They're gonna like.
A
I don't know.
B
I love that roller coaster.
A
I love Pirates of the Caribbean.
B
Love that one.
A
That's my dad's favorite ride.
B
It's not. It's. It's just a little crew. If you haven't been on.
A
I mean, I need to refresh my memory here. Let me see.
B
What is it? Tiana's Adventure. I haven't been on that one yet.
A
Really good.
B
They just redid it, right?
A
Very good.
B
Bigfoot. Not big, huh?
A
It used to be Bigfoot.
B
It was a Bigfoot for sure.
A
It was a big.
B
It was a Bigfoot ride. This is awesome. So good. I don't know why they would have changed it.
A
Oh, okay.
B
So. So we got those. We got for time. Hollywood Studios. What's your favorite?
A
Hollywood's. Get the most out of our app. I don't know how to do that. Hollywood Studios is my favorites. Rock and roll roller coaster.
B
That's awesome.
A
So good. It definitely scrambles your brains a little bit. But.
B
But it's not the one thing I'll say Disney's rides is that they're not like. Not like Six Flags they're smooth. They're smooth.
A
They're superior.
B
You don't have this.
A
You don't hurt.
B
We went to this one museum park in Wisconsin Dells, and I'm pretty good with roller coasters. I can handle a lot of, like, moving and whiplashing.
A
I told you not to ride it.
B
That thing at. I told you family. Not used to be called family. Mount Olympus.
A
Yeah, this.
B
It was a wooden roller coaster, 170 miles an hour. Like, that's going to be awesome.
A
Hades.
B
It.
A
That's what it's called.
B
It felt like. Felt like it. Torture. I was like, oh, my gosh, can this please be done? Like, you're in the dark.
A
Your bones are like. Your bones are like. Rabb.
B
My neck hurt. My. I had a headache for, like.
A
Like, yes.
B
30 minutes.
A
I told you that.
B
Awful.
A
I told you. I.
B
So none of those rides are like that?
A
No, no, they're all smooth. What's the one? Okay, well, we already finish it.
B
I'm going to kick you red sparks.
A
Well, I kind of can.
B
It's a Magic kingdom. Hollywood Studios. You already mentioned that.
A
Guardians of the Galaxy.
B
Guardians. Galaxy. Easy.
A
Frozen's a good one.
B
It's fun for the kids.
A
Yeah, for the kids. It's a good one.
B
Test track is awesome.
A
Test track's great.
B
If they just read it. I'm excited about that one.
A
Stay away from Mission Space. Oh, holy throw up. It's an old ride and it's like motion sickness city. And you're in a small, confined space looking at a screen. I wrote that one.
B
Are you talking about the one that's a centrifuge one? It's kind of cool. It'll give you head. As if you don't like close spaces. Don't do that one.
A
Horrible.
B
But I like Epcot. The reason why I like that is. Is the. The. Was it the tour of the world or whatever it's called. The back area with all the food and the drinks and stuff. And it's one place that has beer there as well. And so it becomes like a very. It probably leans a little bit more adult, but our kids like it as well. And. And then. Oh, we never. We, you know, we're forgetting. Forget anyone. We haven't mentioned Animal Kingdom.
A
It's the weakest park. That's why.
B
What's so weak about it? That's a hot take.
A
There's not a ton of, like. There's like, no thrill rides. Mount Everest.
B
Is it ever.
A
And awesome. Kilimanjaro Safari. But you have to go very early. In the morning, because that's when they feed the animals and it's cold, coolest outside, so they actually come out. The problem is everyone and their mother knows that's when you're supposed to do it. So the line will be two and a half hours long. So you have to get up and maybe try to rope drop on that day. And we do it on the guided tour day. That way we can just hop on it and be done, because it is.
B
Make that your fast pass.
A
Make that your fast pass.
B
The other one, my absolute favorite one there actually probably one of my favorite rides in Disney. I can't believe I forgot about this. Is the. The Avatar 1. Flight of the Natave, or whatever it's called in the avi.
A
Yes.
B
I. I think that's overrated. Oh, my God.
A
It's okay.
B
That ride's so cool.
A
I mean, I love it. I love. I love Disney. Everyone. All the rides make me happy.
B
So the reason it's cool is because it's immersive.
A
Yeah.
B
You feel like it's the whole story and the smells and everything about it is really. It's a. It's the details. And that's one thing. From a. From my standpoint, what I appreciate about Disney mode is the amount of detail they put into it. There's really just every. Everything's thought through. It's wild.
A
So good. They do nothing wrong.
B
Okay. What?
A
Remember that one time we got stuck and It's a small world for 45 minutes and the music kept going?
B
She still has PTSD from it.
A
Haley. So we brought Haley on that trip. She had never been to Disney World, and we get stuck in the rain. It was like a.
B
We went into it like a tsunami. We literally only went in that ride because we're trying to escape a thunderstorm.
A
Yes.
B
Which blew the entire power or the ride. So we were stuck. Yeah. It was 45 minutes. And the music. They kept the music on for a good 30 minutes in the same spot, and then they finally turned it off. And you had this. The creepy going. That's right.
A
They're hipped for, like.
B
There's no music. Looking at your eyes. The dead eyes.
A
I forgot that you want to talk.
B
Well, that's where Satan is.
A
That. Yeah.
B
He's in that. Right.
A
That is the entity. He's the entities of those little baby children. That's where he is. Oh, my gosh. I remember recording that and putting, like, techno music to it and stories and people were dying, but that was crazy. And so we're sitting in, like, soggy underpants. Seriously, in that ride.
B
Forget a memory that we'll have forever.
A
Such a good memory. It really is. At the time, it was so bad. But it's funny now when we tell it.
B
Surprisingly, none of our kids are melting down either. No, they're just there for. Everyone was laughing.
A
Baby was pretty young.
B
Everyone started getting slap happy. So, like, all the other people were laughing in the carts. It kind of created this fun atmosphere.
A
You know, we've. We all really bonded. We all got each other's numbers because we've only experienced that together. Like, no one understands what we went through.
B
I'm not. Yeah, I suppose.
A
With the strangers.
B
Kidding.
A
Like, being on a reality TV show. They're always like. They're always like, we're brothers and sisters now because we have this bond. It's like, they're always like, no one has ever experienced this.
B
Yeah. Bonded.
A
Yeah.
B
I wonder how Doug and Debbie are doing.
A
I know. And Stan. Remember Stan?
B
Good. Dude.
A
Do you remember Nancy?
B
Which one was she?
A
She was one sitting in front. She kind of had the white curly hair, cotton top, shorter. Yeah. But she really. She was happy that she got stuck on the whole.
B
It was, like, short, longer, right?
A
Yes. It kind of was like, an angular cut.
B
Angular but long at the same time. Yeah.
A
I think she had, like, those funny bangs. Yeah, it kind of went.
B
She was wearing, like, some makeup, but not. Right.
A
She talked about her son a lot.
B
And her daughter.
A
He was at the University of Idaho.
B
Daughter was.
A
That's right.
B
Baking. Studying baking. She's baker, too. She had pot brownies. Remember that?
A
We don't know any of those people anyway, so that's a super fun memory. Yes. Vaughn getting sick? Not so much.
B
All right, what. What's the number one thing to avoid at Disney? Number one thing to avoid?
A
Number one thing to avoid. I mean, this isn't something to avoid. It's like, I genuinely wouldn't go if I didn't do lightning lane passes when I went.
B
What would that be? Huh? What would you.
A
I'm just saying, like, I wouldn't do Disney if you're not up for, like, spending I.
B
Seriously.
A
$20 per person or whatever to get the lightning lane passes. I'm telling you, like, with kids, the lines are just so long, and it really does, like, put a damper on.
B
Use the app. Look for the lines. A short one.
A
Yeah.
B
Get there early. Here's things. If you. If you don't want to do it, you got to get there super early to get there. To knock out all the super high demand rides. But waiting in lines. I. I actually would agree with you on that one.
A
Oh, any. Any hacks for stroller parking so you don't use. Lose yours in a CF500?
B
I've never.
A
We've never lost it.
B
It's weird. I mean, it's. There's so many stores there, and it's like. I think the honor system surprisingly works. Crazy good. It has your name on it. They put your hand. I don't. I've never had anything stolen before.
A
What a game. What. What was the word you just said?
B
Stolen.
A
Good job.
B
That's what I said.
A
Stolen.
B
I didn't say stolen.
A
What's the word?
B
Stole. My heart.
A
Stole. He said instead of stole. He says stole all the time. It's not my fault, but it's, like, not working.
B
It's not my fault that I have a weird accent.
A
Stolen.
B
That's a. That's a Milwaukee thing.
A
That wasn't like.
B
You've heard my mom say that.
A
I know she does.
B
So I. It's. And I know my. It's like 100. I added, like, It's. It makes no sense.
A
Okay. I will say doing Disney without a backpack of, like, diapers and wipes is an unlocked joy and freedom parenting that no one talks about. I now just go with my little belt bag, and I'm like, what the heck? I don't carry anything. It's fantastic. So I would say for quick navigation with the stroller, put. Take still like a belt bag for your valuables, your wallet, very little things up, put it on your chest. But then leave the backpack of the diapers and the sweatshirts or whatever you want to put. Leave it in the stroller. I've been going a lot. I've gone many trips, and I've never had anything stolen. Knock on wood. So everyone's just too busy to try to get in that line and use their. Their people aren't paying thousands of dollars to come steal a wallet. They're just not. I just don't think. I think things could accidentally get taken. I just don't think, like, people are coming to Disney, too.
B
How do you think I've been funding most of these trips? Jen, you're so dumb. Sea of strollers. There's wallet.
A
Daddy's gonna stay back and guard the stroller. Have fun. That's the headline. Mike Todrick steals at Disney. Anyway, do you want to do a. I mean, I feel like that. That doesn't even scratch the surface of Disney.
B
Oh, can I. Can I tell you one? Right. Not to do unless it's like five minutes or under.
A
Yeah.
B
Peter Pan. Avoid it. It's dumb. It's a waste of time.
A
How dare you. It's so pretty.
B
Five minutes is max.
A
I love it. Okay, I do agree that it worth an hour. Wait, that's.
B
We were there. That one time was like over. It was like. Like 90 minutes.
A
It always is. Because it's a beautiful ride, Mike, and you don't get it.
B
Okay. I appreciate the little paintings and stuff in there, but it's. It is. I guess if you like were in 1969 when it was like put out there and so cute actually when did Disney World. I should. Vaughn would know all the facts of.
A
Like actually when Was it opened?
B
19. It's the 1970s.
A
Yes.
B
Okay. 60s was the original or something.
A
Some movies Aristocats.
B
So anyway it's probably one of the original rides. I'm sure it was awesome back then. Yeah, but then you got Guardians. Come on. Come on.
A
Yeah. I mean yeah, they're always gonna get bigger and better because technology and whatnot.
B
And if you want some of us.
A
Like simple joys like Peter Pan.
B
But if your kids are leaving a little bit older and they're past that age of Disney nostalgia, I actually would recommend Universal Studios further the rides get off my podcast. The get out of here. What is the Harry Potter World or what? Wonderful World of Wizardry. That's pretty cool. That's more Disney esque. And I've heard their new park is like super awesome. Which I kind of want to sneak away with Vaughn one day and do it because they got. They got Super Mario Land now. Come on. Kidding me.
A
I'm not coming on. Let's say Disney.
B
It's wild. I'm going.
A
I'm a hard Disney.
B
I might. I might.
A
What is it called?
B
Am I cheating on Disney to go check it out? I might do it.
A
What's the world you're like if you is a Disney stand or a Disney stand if you stand by something. I know Haley knows it, but I'm going to see if you know. Is it Stan or stand?
B
Are you a Stan?
A
He doesn't know. Haley, what's the correct verbiage? Stan. Stan. I'm a Disney Stan.
B
Is that makes me think of a grandpa. Is that a. Yeah. Is that like a made up TikTok word? Is that like six maybe?
A
Yeah, in 41. 41 maybe. But it's been around a lot longer and it stuck because it like. It means like you stand for something but you say a stand stalker and fan put together so you're like, a stalker fan. I'm totally a Disney Stan. 100%.
B
Okay, well, I'm a gen Stan.
A
That's nice.
B
Thanks. On that note, I think we've been, what, well over an hour at this point, so do you want to do any random question or. There.
A
Let's do a jar question.
B
Let me see if I have one related to Disney on here. All right, just give me a number one through six.
A
That's not many options, but I'll take six.
B
I think this is six. I need glasses. Good night. I'm not gonna give that one stupid. I'm gonna give you this one. Which Disney character would be the absolute worst to wait in line with? It would be the worst to wait in line with.
A
I'm going through, like, the classic ones.
B
Yeah.
A
Maybe Sleeping Beauty. She was kind of boring.
B
So you're gonna. You would.
A
Aurora was really pretty, but she's very.
B
You would either read, like and quiet. Who is the, like, the. The witch. You'd rather wait with a witch than Sleeping Beauty?
A
Yeah, because that's, like, interesting. Like, oh, my gosh.
B
How did you get there?
A
Like, how did you become bad? Yeah.
B
How did you. How did this happen to you?
A
Yeah. Aurora is a snooze fest.
B
You like serial killer documentaries, so it kind of makes sense you would want to be like, figure them out. Right.
A
Want to figure out the witch. Totally.
B
I think Tiger would be the most annoying dude bouncing around all the time.
A
That's probably true, honestly. That's a great one.
B
Chill out, man. Going crazy.
A
So right.
B
That dude would.
A
I think he would be cute. I think he would be adorable. But that's.
B
He might be cute until this thing's bouncing around all over the place. You're like, get back in line, man. You're going to get up in lane. That's it.
A
You're so right. That's pretty good. I mean, okay, I always think your answers are better than mine, but Aurora's boring, for sure. Who would you want to see online with Ariel? Me, too. That's sweet. Me, too. I would pick Ariel. I think she's very sweet and, like, kind of ditzy.
B
Lovable.
A
Yeah. I like her a lot.
B
And you could sing. You guys could do, like, harmonize.
A
Do you know who else would be super annoying would be Snow White. Oh, I would die.
B
Just chill. Stop.
A
Please don't talk like that. Yeah, for sure. And then you know who I think would actually be really funny to be around but also so annoying would be Gaston. He's a conceited tool man. Like, he's. He's funny in a way to me though too because he's just like the epitome of like masculinity and.
B
No, that's wrong. Wait, hold on to think. Like, what the song. Remember, Remember. He's saying, what's the song he sang in the. In the. The pub when he comes back? I'm trying to remember.
A
Yeah, yeah. Who is. That's his little assistant. Would sing that too. About me. But yeah, Gaston sung too.
B
Yeah, it was in there. Trying to like, strongest. No, that's. Oh, gosh. I'm trying to remember the lyrics.
A
I know now it's in my head. It's. Haley knows it.
B
I would like. I'll tell you what. The most fun. The most fun to hang out with would be the genie. The Robin Williams version. That dude to be awesome to hang around.
A
Yeah, he is fun.
B
And then he could be like, give me on this line. He'd be in the front of the line.
A
Yeah. You know who would be cute though, also to watch are the three old ladies in Sleeping Beauty. The little fairy godmothers.
B
No, no, they're sweet.
A
They're really sweet. I mean, they're so caring and giving and really pretty.
B
So there it is. Anyway, so you thought we were gonna get random, and now we got even more random because this podcast kind of took a whole bunch of. Well, it wasn't all. Well, there's a good 25 minutes about not dis. Of this.
A
We should have said we're going to Disney. Yeah. In October. So.
B
So we're excited about if you got any tips from this. Congratulations to you because I'm trying to figure out what. What I would get.
A
Yeah, I don't know. Good for you.
B
At least you. At least you can follow 2. Add adults that do Disney, do it, do a podcast and do Disney together.
A
If anything. Maybe moms or dads who go to Disney, like, haven't heard of this treat or restaurant or whatever. And they're like, oh, I want to try that. Oh, if you. Okay, here's like a little fun tip that people don't know. If you go to the store and it'll be done, I promise. The store behind Cinderella's castle, it's Mickey. Sir Mickey's. If you go and you ask the person either at the door behind the counter, can we please get some pixie dust? They go and get like pixie dust and a wand and they do this little like pixie dust over the girls heads and they put glitter all over their heads and they have to like, make a wish. And it's like this whole acute thing that's like a secret thing.
B
Look, we can talk a lot more about Disney in another day. We could also talk about the cruises and things like that because, yeah, we do cruises. I like them. I think they're fun. I do like them. I think they're super fun. But thank you for following along this podcast. If you haven't subscribed, subscribe on it and make sure you're following. And then again, if you really did like this, give us five stars. And as Jen, I always say, if you don't, just, just don't. Listen again on the way out. The hot dogs and the corn dogs suck at Disney. Don't to Coney Island.
A
I disagree. I do like corn dogs, so you should get that.
B
Don't. Get out dog.
A
Get a corn dog.
B
They're awful.
A
Okay, bye. Bye. Get a corn dog. Bye.
B
Don't. Corn dogs are good. Corn dogs are awful.
A
Get the corn dog.
B
Waste of your money. Get the corn. Corn dogs are a waste.
Host: Thirteen Media
Date: October 29, 2025
Guests: Jenn & Mike Todryk
This lively installment of "You, Me & Mike" is a Disney World deep dive, answering listener questions on everything from childhood nostalgia to tactical tips for family vacations. Jenn and Mike Todryk swap stories and advice spanning their own Disney experiences—first childhood trips, all-adult getaways, hacks for surviving the parks with kids, and their favorite (and least favorite) snacks, hotels, and rides. True to form, the pair mix playful banter, honest confessions, and a trove of practical travel gems, infusing the conversation with wit and warmth that will resonate for Disney die-hards and casual vacationers alike.
Jenn's Disney vs. Mike's Action Figures:
Jenn recounts her family’s first Disney trip at 14 and her childhood love of classic Disney animation—"Lion King," "Aladdin," and "Snow White." Mike contrasts this with his G.I. Joe and He-Man obsessions.
Parenting in the '80s/'90s:
Discussion of bizarre childhood rumors about toys (Cabbage Patch Dolls, He-Man) and how each decade brings new fads and moral panics. Jenn pokes fun at “satanic” stuffed animals.
Emotional draws & transparency:
Jenn is upfront—Disney is their most expensive vacation, but offers unique nostalgia, quality, and fun for the whole family, impressing even her practical mom.
Comparisons to Universal:
Disney's attention to detail and immersive atmosphere outshine Universal, according to Jenn.
Guided tours:
A one-day private guide (costly but efficient with groups) lets the family blitz rides, enjoy food, and experience overlooked attractions at a less frantic pace.
Tour strategy:
The Todryks use a guide for only one day per trip, maximizing rides up front and then taking it slow.
Hotels:
They’ve stayed at most Disney resort tiers. Jenn craves constant theming ("If it’s not blowing Disney theme up my butt, I don’t want it." — Jenn, 29:53); Mike values comfort and admits he got used to business travel perks.
Family budgeting philosophy:
Splurges are for memorable experiences, not things—"where we do spend money is on vacations."
Tips for planners:
Lightning Lane & Passes:
Jenn’s system:
On collectibles:
Pin trading culture:
DISLIKES:
On Waiting in Line:
If not using Lightning Lane, arrive early and try to avoid peak times; “Waiting in lines...I actually would agree with you on that one.” — Mike (61:38)
Stroller is a must for young kids; double stroller preferred if you have more than one child.
Take breaks for naps and pool time; consider monorail-access hotels for hop-back ease.
Don’t push overtired kids; prioritize family mood over “doing everything.”
If your child can’t tolerate large crowds or being in a stroller, consider waiting until they’re older.
On Disney’s Magic:
On being “Disney Mom”:
On collectibles:
On expectation management:
On slow rides/nostalgia:
The episode is casual, irreverent, and full of gentle ribbing; Jenn’s enthusiasm is infectious, and Mike plays the devil’s advocate with side-eyed jokes. The couple’s dynamic is open and honest, and they move fluidly between heartfelt nostalgia, practical travel tips, and comedic asides.
Whether you're a first-timer or a Disney veteran, “The One Where They Go to Disney” blends expert tips with personal storytelling, always prioritizing connection over perfection. Jenn and Mike remind us: it’s not about doing everything, but making memories with the people you love.
"You have to go with what speaks to you. You can’t get it because…If the pin is not instantly like, I can't live without this pin because I love this character, this movie so much, or it means something to me or it's nostalgic…don’t get it."
— Jenn (37:16)