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Christmas is upon us.
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It is almost.
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A
What do we. What do we have planned here?
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We're gonna talk a little bit about, like, the traditions of Christmas. Right? That's what I think. I think would be fun to talk.
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About, like our traditions.
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Yeah, a little bit. Our traditions and like a lot of the whys. I mean, there's so many things that we do at Christmas that we've, like, we've started traditions and then, you know, maybe three, four generations from now, people aren't going to realize why. Why, they. What's that?
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I'm gonna do it anymore?
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No, they will. It's gonna be. They're gonna be playing LCR and they're gonna think it's a religious thing.
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It has nothing to do with religious lcr. Our great ancestors once played this dice.
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It represented the Trinity, left, center and right. Left being the. The Holy Spirit, the center being Christ, Christ, God the Father, and right side being Christ. See, lcr.
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I thought C was Christ.
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Well, I would make sense with the letter C, but center being God the father, I thought they'd be like, guess they say Christ. It's the right hand side of God.
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How are you doing mentally since you have become more involved this Christmas with helping with gifts? Are you handling it well? How you doing?
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I mean, I'll start here in a few weeks. Hey, Jenny, if you wait for the last minute, it only takes a minute. Yeah, that's what they say.
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Man never is involved in the Christmas presents until like three days.
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That's not sure.
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And he's like, what are we getting them? And then he feels that he buys more because he feels like. You might not admit it, but I know it's white because you feel like you were not involved.
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Absolutely not.
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It. So then he goes and spends more money and then we have way too many gifts. And this year we did it differently. I forced him to sit down in the kitchen. We had conversations about what everyone's gonna get, put little numbers next to their name. And he's done like some of the heavy lifting, like literally the bigger gifts, which has been really nice.
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Yeah, I don't. This isn't a new thing. I just think we. You have like Christmas amnesia where you forget like, of the stuff that we do during it. Because it's. You do a lot.
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What do you do before?
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What's that?
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What do you do with the Christmas presents?
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All the decorations of the house I put up. All the shopping I'm putting up. It's like putting up. I'm doing all the shopping, you know, the Baking, prepping for things. It's. It's unbelievable.
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For real, though.
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I bring down the boxes.
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That's.
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There it is.
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That's the truth. He does really? That.
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And then I put on the top of the tree the star.
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Ours not. Is not on the top.
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The top section.
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Top section of the tree you do put up.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And then the family tree. I normally do, but this year we're in a renovation from the water damage that we had, so. Yeah.
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Okay. So that was the most honest admission that you've ever had towards Christmas, so thank you. But this year's different. I mean, I'm serious. Like, we sat down, I felt like I did it with someone, which was nice.
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Yeah.
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But it's not a mission.
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I've done a lot of shopping, and a lot of it is. I. I don't stress as much about thinking that I have to, like, deal hunt at Black Friday. I'm not as into it as you are. We're like, I got a good.
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Moms make the Christmas magic happen. It's true.
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You. You say you make the traditions. I looked up magic. You make magic.
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Moms make the mat. We are the backbone of Christmas.
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Well, I think dads make their traditions because if we stick to it, then it becomes a tradition.
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I'm sorry. My tradition is that we. We come out in the morning to music that I love, and you poo poo it and you crap on my.
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Because it's a CD that you. That it is so obscure, they don't even make the CD anymore. Nor is it good, nor is it streamed anywhere. We wish you a merry Christmas.
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It's like, so, like, anxiety ridden.
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It is. And yes. And it is at Norman Rock 7 in the morning, I'm like, I just need some coffee. It's like, all right.
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Dashing through the snow.
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So I called this one. When I wrote up the script of this one, or the script or the. The outline for this one. I'm calling this one. Where did that come from? Faith, history, traditions, pop culture, movie, deep dies and a little debate. You ready for it?
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I'm ready. You know. You know, I did not put this outline together. We are going back in time in Christmas history, but I'm here for it.
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This is. This is just a general question, which I think is going, what part of Christmas story hits different now that you're an adult or a parent? The Christmas story, like, story of Jesus and the actual birthday. Does anything hit different from when you were a kid to now that you're a parent?
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Well, now I Think I just, like, am overwhelmed by appreciation and gratitude for, like, looking at my family on Christmas Day. And I get emotional and like that for sure. When you're a kid, you're not. We are always raised knowing what the, you know, true meaning of Christmas was and what the importance of it was. But you better believe when your feet hit the floor Christmas morning, we'd all huddle behind a pocket door in our hallway and wait till we heard the CD play and then we'd run out. It'd be like gifts. Like, you. You can't deny as a child, you waited for something back in. In our generations. And probably me even more at the height of it because I was a 90s kid and that's like the height of like, Disney Channel, Nickelodeon commercials. Like, you would literally see something in a commercial and it would be the 90s, like, hyped up. Like the teddy bear you could draw and then wash it, or like the baby alive. Like, everything was so hyped in the 90s that we would, like, want a gift for like, eight months before we got it at Christmas, you know, and our kids don't have that.
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Yeah, man. It's probably because of the. So much of the instant opportunity in the way that contents consume stuff. Like a lot of. I was to say the commercial. They don't see the commercials like they used to, and now they're, you know, if Vaughn's watching, you know, YouTuber, it's whatever product that they happen to be company owner of. Right. So I want one of those, you know, what is it? The joyride or whatever. Ryan Trent. And that's. That's kind of part of it. But yeah, no, I remember absolutely. Like Nintendo, we've talked in the past about that. Like, like, that was the big thing. I was like, oh, my gosh, if we could only afford a Nintendo, there's no way we're ever going to have one of these. And you have that big buildup of it. But I think from a standpoint of that question to me would be more along the lines of, like, as a view of a child, you're looking at it as always. Like, it's just. You don't have any. A lot of framework, not all children, but most. A lot of children have this view of innocence. Right. You don't see darkness in your life yet because you're really looking towards all the joy that generally happens for it. And even if you're in, you know, where I came from, relative lower income, and that Christmas was like a celebration of joy, was like Fun since you had got the gifts that you didn't necessarily have at a whims basis.
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Right. Yeah.
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And obviously Jesus, you know, represents the ultimate hope in a darkness. And I think as a parent, the things that I like the most about Christmas is I get to see Christmas through the kids eyes.
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Yeah.
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Which makes it even better than when I remember being a kid. And likewise, it was, gosh, it was man. Several years ago, but when I was an adult, I mean, probably 10, 15 years ago. But here in actually the true context of how visceral and bad and horrible Mary and Joseph had it during the birth and like the fact that they had to like go from town to town to go back to their birth town to be able to have a baby and there was no one to have it. Do you think about it as a parent, like how many modern days, like trying to have a baby and everyone was like, yeah, you can't come in. Tough luck.
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That was like a three part response. Yes. So Mary and Joseph, the joy in the darkness. So that's what, that's what you think of now and then.
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For sure.
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Toys.
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Well, toys. Okay. I mean obviously you, you. I think you turn from a position of selfishness to hopefully selflessness.
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Right. I think also something that no one prepares you for as a parent is like Christmas after. I don't want this. I don't want kids to be listening to this and like hear this. What? After kids know about something not being. Existence. In existence, I guess.
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What are you talking about?
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I'm not gonna say it. Okay. Really? Do you not know what I'm getting at?
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Of course.
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Okay. No one prepares you for like it's sad. Like they even. Berkeley was like, it's a little sadder now. It's not as fun.
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I disagree.
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And I'm like, I, I do. I'm like, dang, we have one left in those magical years of belief and one left. And I'm like just squeezing onto it.
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I just like if anyone ruins this. But honestly, I look at it as that that's a natural progression.
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No, for sure.
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Going from like just fairy tale type stuff to like the real true meaning of Christmas. Because it was. It's not about presents and gifts and yeah, that, that, that magical fairy tale type things are awesome. But I think it allows you to lean in more and then our kids lean to traditions with Vivian, everything. So it's, it's a lot of fun.
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Yeah. Another, another thing about going back because I wanted to add more to the. I kind of like the pulp culture. Culture Part of the conversation of, like, the kids nowadays. It's like, I asked berkeley, Vaughn, and viv, and they have more than they'll ever need. Right. Like, we're very fortunate in that aspect. However, we're also not a family that, like, gets a toy. When we go to target, they pretty much only get toys. Well, one of us will tend to buy something on a whim.
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Yes, that will happen because it's fun. Not me. I love it.
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I know not, but I love giving gifts.
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I love it.
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No, that's a new thing only for vivi, that she will come back from shopping with you with something random. And I'm like, no, we. Typically, before vivi the baby, typically, you only got gifts on birthday and christmas. And I feel like that is also something to where they don't know what they want. So, like, I asked vaughn, berkeley, and vivian, I'm like, what do you want for christmas? They're like, I don't know. And, like, they truly don't know what to ask for. And vivy only knows what she wants when she circles in a catalog because.
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They don't know what is the Amazon toy catalog. They came. 90 of it was circled.
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Yeah. Which is so fun that I remember the catalogs like, as a kid.
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I'm glad they send that still. It is awesome.
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Yes. But anyway, so it's like they just. They don't even know what to ask for, which actually makes it more challenging for us as parents, Because I feel like back in the day, I had a list 22 miles long, and it was, like, fun stuff. Whereas now I'm like, okay, well, what do they need? You know? Like, it's almost like just. I don't know. I just. I guess I miss commercials. I guess that's what I'm saying. I miss that.
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So you missed build up.
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You like what they want.
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You miss commercials. That's what this is, what I'm pulling out of this.
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I miss that.
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You missed. I missed the consumerism of christmas. This is. This is unacceptable.
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I miss, like, seeing that commercial and.
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Being like this leads into something.
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Thinking about it forever.
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This actually leads into a question of random. I have a whole bunch of factoids written out. Okay, rudolph. You know where rudolph came from? Rudolph. The red north pole. That. That. That's accurate. But do you know where it actually originated?
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No idea.
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The story of rudolph.
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No idea.
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So it was from montgomery ward, which was a department store, Created rudolph as a promotion. The store, it was like. It was kind of like sears back in, like, probably early 1900s.
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In the north. I've never heard of it.
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Yeah, it was a national company. They would send out, like, catalogs that people would order on and they would mail things over. But they started Rudolph as a marketing campaign to basically promote their store. And it was one of their copywriters.
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It's a McDonald's clown kind of.
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That's exactly right. And they. They gave out, like, coloring books. They. They used to do, like, an annual coloring book that they would send out with their catalog so kids could. A color in it, which is. Which is smart. You know, you get kids engaged.
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What year?
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Actually, let me look at my notes. I'll tell you the exact time they.
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Had one in Texas.
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1939. Robert Ella May, he was the one who made it.
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And it closed all stores in 2001. Now they only operate. They're online.
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Yeah. So 1939, it was basically was a coloring book as a marketing promotion. And they made it and they made their own. And they. Instead of outsourcing it, they're like, hey, copywriter, make the story. And it turned into, like, from a marketing promotion to the TV show and now is known as like, the most famous reindeer of all.
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Yeah, that's crazy.
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Rudolph.
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Random fact.
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Yeah.
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That I never knew.
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Well, that's what I'm saying. Consumerism drives a lot. A lot of tradition.
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A lot of traditions in this country. Yeah. I say so. That's crazy.
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Why? Do you know why December 25th is Christmas?
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I think it was a guesstimation around when Jesus was born. But no one actually knows if it's fact from what I remember.
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Right. I mean, there's some estimates that it was in like, October, November time frame just because of, like, the celestial. Like they talk about the North Star, the. The star Bethlehem and things like that that they're. They're pointing towards. But it was actually intentional. And it was an assimilation of pagan holidays, Roman holidays that they would celebrate, like the winter feast, the winter festivals in December, and there was one specifically called Sola Victus, which was on December 25th.
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And.
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And it was a celebration of the unconquering sun, and it was a symbol of light defeating darkness. But it was a Roman holiday. And when the early Christians were taking over, they were instead of like. It's not necessarily simulating the holiday because they're doing it, but they were saying people were already in that tradition. They were already celebrating these times. The sun conquering darkness is the exact same. So instead of the S u n, it was S o n. So they took that and basically said, this is the day we're going to continue to celebrate because people were already into their party traditions at that point, but that was. That was where that came from. So it was. It was a intentional thing was between the 3rd and 4th century, it was actually decided that was Christmas Day. Did you know that?
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No, I didn't.
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Fun fact, right?
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It is Home Alone. Wearing the shirt shadow. A little foreshadow.
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That makes sense because, like, Christmas Vacation is one of my personal favorites, but it is maybe too vulgar for some people. Right. So it's probably not the most watched. Home Alone is a fun, family friendly movie with Kevin McAllister. We watched it a couple weeks ago and all. Probably not what you do whatsoever, but I love to just look at the set the entire time.
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Yeah.
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Because I've seen it one million times. I already know Kevin's line and what. What's gonna happen and. Which is shocking for me because I don't remember anything. I can watch the same movie seven times and I don't remember how it is.
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You remember lines and words and stuff like that until the second you, like, see it, you remember it. Where you have that. You have a very strange memory. What song were you singing the other day? Britney Spears. Whoops, I Did it Again. Or something like that.
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And you knew not Whoops, oops, oops, whoops, whoopsie. It's the remix.
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Whoopsie, I Did it Again. But yeah, you were singing and you're like. And you're shaking your head because you didn't know why.
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No idea. I knew those lyrics. I know. Or as opposed to audible Q maybe or something.
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I don't. I. You could make up the words and I'd be like. That's the words.
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That's it.
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That's it. You got it. 100. Let's see. Out.
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Okay. So Home Alone. Interesting.
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We watched that. We watched the. Was the movies that made us. Remember that's another Netflix special, which we talked about before. About the toys that made us. The movies that made us.
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Yeah.
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Remember they had one that they talked about the history of Home Alone on. Or. The studio actually thought it was gonna fail. They were convinced it was not gonna succeed.
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Oh, that's right. Yeah. I do remember that vaguely.
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Yeah. That was like. So this movie was not supposed to be as popular as it was.
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Didn't grow, like, years after. Right.
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It was popping when it came out. I remember watching it. Gosh, it must have been in sixth grade, I think, when it came out. Maybe. Yeah. Sixth grade or so. And I went with my sister and her boyfriend, Jen. Yeah. And I legitimately don't remember laughing that hard at a movie at that really Yeah, I remember going like that was the greatest movie because it's all the cartoon. Like iron dropping in their faces was like, I've never seen anything like before. It's like a real life cartoon.
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Well, have you noticed, like if you watch Home Alone 2 right after they like went. The scene is so much longer where they're getting hurt.
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Yeah. Just all they're doing is beating the crap out of their.
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Out of forever and ever. It's like it went from like a 10 minute scene to like 20 something.
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Vaugh and Berkeley were assessing like how dead they would be. Like that would kill him. Well, that he would be dead.
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Oh, he'd be dead.
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Yeah. The whole thing was about that guy.
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They're not wrong. Like you are.
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Right.
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A little bit of TV magic.
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I think to me, the personal thing that I love about that movie is the soundtrack. Oh, and John Williams did that soundtrack, which is the guy did like Star wars and gosh, we did a lot of Steven Spielberg stuff. So like. Yeah, he has so many epic, huge Jurassic World, Jurassic park, like all the. All these big movie ones. But that's not like that. That music. The song comes on, you slow down.
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No, it's so, you know, it's a good soundtrack to soundtrack if it's super recognizable. I mean, the minute you hear, you instantly know it's Home Alone.
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Wait, what? Isn't it go.
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Yes, there's lots. But I'm saying you can do so many songs.
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Let's just play the rest of the podcast where we hum.
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You know which one. But I know you're. Yeah, there's no.
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I don't know the one you're talking about, actually. Is that a different song?
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That's.
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This is Halloween. This is. I swear. You're doing the Nightmare Before Christmas. Well, I, I will put this up to the podcast universe. The song that people would know was the one I did.
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Am I allowed to play music on here?
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No.
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People who are listening you, if you. You know what I'm saying?
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All right, there's. There's going to be plenty. I got a song for you then.
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Yeah.
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Or not a song, I guess related to a song.
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Please sing me a song.
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What is the number one Christmas song right now? The most played Christmas song annually.
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It's beginning to look a lot like. No, no, don't tell me. From Home Alone.
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Nope.
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Okay, don't tell.
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It's. I'll give you a hint. I fast forward it every time it comes on.
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Oh, it's that. Is it this the Beach Boys Christmas song?
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No, you're talking about the Beatles.
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My dad hates that song too. Simply Heaven.
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It's like, not that one. I generally do.
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I always go, oh, it's last Christmas. Actually.
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I like that song. The heck?
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I love that song too.
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What is it?
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Okay, tell me. No, Give me a hit clue. Give me another clue.
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Diva.
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Diva. I'm. I'm a diva. I'm. I'm a diva.
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That's the song that is the action.
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Most played Christmas. Diva. Oh, is it? C Sia.
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Oh my Lord.
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Like Candy Cane Lane.
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The very first word of the song is All.
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I want for Christmas is my two front teeth.
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My two is you.
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Christmas. Oh, it's time.
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All I want for Christmas is you by Mariah Carey. Yes.
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That's the song.
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Yes. That's the number one song, isn't it?
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It's time.
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That's the one I fast forward on. I don't think that's it.
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Oh, is it a different one?
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All I want for Christmas.
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Yes, you. Yeah.
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She wrote that song in 15 minutes. Fun fact. And it translates to that to me. Sounds like a 15 minute song.
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A
Maybe that's a different song. I'm thinking of them by Mariah Carey. I don't think it's the same song. That's shocking.
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B
She makes two to three million dollars every Christmas season. What? That song alone for residuals.
- [21:45]
A
What?
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B
She wrote a song. Wrote a song in 15 minutes and makes $3 million a year.
- [21:50]
A
And now like obviously I'm not saying she did nothing. She wrote a song. But like now literally doing Nothing, she makes 2 to 3 million a year. Only on just that song years ago. That. Wow. Good job.
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B
This one I have. No, I can't, I can't check this one. But it's just the note came up that it makes the top 10 global hits every single year during Christmas season.
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A
Good.
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B
Like, I don't know. That's.
- [22:10]
A
Wow. That's. Good for you, girl. That's insane.
- [22:13]
B
Yes.
- [22:13]
A
That's awesome.
- [22:14]
B
The number one TV Christmas special. Do you know what it is?
- [22:17]
A
I can't even think of a Christmas special like they aired on TV.
- [22:21]
B
Yeah, like a 30 minute under. It used to be aired on TV like Rudolph, Red Was Reindeer.
- [22:25]
A
That was a TV special. Now it's on DVD.
- [22:29]
B
Yes, because everything's on DVD or it streams.
- [22:32]
A
Yeah.
- [22:33]
B
Welcome 1995. What are you doing there.
- [22:38]
A
Before Blu Ray?
- [22:39]
B
Jeez.
- [22:41]
A
You know what I mean?
- [22:41]
B
That's when we go to Blockbuster ever and we rent our TV specials. I don't like Charlie Brown Christmas special. That's the, that's the number one annually according to the notes here.
- [22:51]
A
So do you know what else I used to watch? I saw something on Instagram. It was like a reel and it like shot me back to my childhood. Which is like a live play of Peter Pan, but there was a woman as Peter Pan and someone was like, why is this in my memory? And I was like, why is this in my memory?
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B
It was a play.
- [23:12]
A
Yes. And I went down like a rabbit hole in YouTube trying to find out what this play is.
- [23:16]
B
Was it a live action play that was showed on TV special or something?
- [23:18]
A
It was Peter Pan, but Peter Pan was a girl. And I remember as a kid being like, why is Peter Pan a girl but had the short hair and everything?
- [23:24]
B
Well, it kind of makes sense because it's supposed to be like a never aging boy. Right. So which is just a woman.
- [23:31]
A
It's a hot cake. What?
- [23:35]
B
I don't know.
- [23:36]
A
Hold on.
- [23:36]
B
I'm throw that out there, I guess.
- [23:38]
A
What was the play that was live on television aired in the 90s or the early 2000s of Peter Pan and Peter Pan was played by a woman.
- [23:50]
B
Probably gonna be called Peter Pan.
- [23:55]
A
I know that.
- [23:56]
B
I mean you said. What was the name of the play?
- [23:58]
A
Peter Pan 1960 TV version with Mary Martin.
- [24:01]
B
1960.
- [24:02]
A
That was it.
- [24:04]
B
Okay.
- [24:05]
A
That was it. Mary Martin. Peter. I'm gonna look at this.
- [24:08]
B
Okay.
- [24:09]
A
But yeah, I remember that around Christmas time.
- [24:14]
B
I have no recollections of that. The one that I know aired one time when I was a kid and I actually never saw it until I was adult. And it all. It was absolutely awful. But was the Star Wars Christmas special, which was never it. You gotta watch it because it is so bad. It's comically awful.
- [24:30]
A
Is there like famous people in it?
- [24:31]
B
It'd be all the Star wars actors.
- [24:33]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [24:33]
B
I mean they would. If you consider like Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford famous. Sure. Carrie Fisher.
- [24:39]
A
Yeah. There's a dumpster in the background. A bomb didn't go off. Hear that in the.
- [24:43]
B
In the what? What are you looking forward to this Christmas? What do you think? Are there any new traditions we're going to do this year?
- [24:49]
A
Our new tradition is to just have our house not in the middle of a renovation.
- [24:53]
B
That would be ideal. How about this as a non tradition, don't start a renovation three weeks before Christmas. Let's true. Not do that.
- [25:00]
A
True, I will say that.
- [25:02]
B
But. But to our own defense, that was we. We were expecting that done in October.
- [25:07]
A
Correct.
- [25:08]
B
But there are some delays ever.
- [25:09]
A
If you do want to renovate Your home. It's a great time to think about it because usually they'll give discounted pricing because no one wants to be living in a renovation in December.
- [25:18]
B
It's true.
- [25:19]
A
Like we are.
- [25:19]
B
That's true.
- [25:20]
A
So it's not a bad idea as far as a financial standpoint.
- [25:24]
B
But I got a couple random questions for you.
- [25:26]
A
I love being quizzed.
- [25:27]
B
Wassling, caroling. Kinda boom.
- [25:31]
A
It is. Caroling, waling.
- [25:32]
B
We go caroling. But what does waseling mean? Do you know what the term?
- [25:36]
A
I would assume to sing it meant.
- [25:39]
B
To bless your neighbors through song. I want to do that in a neighborhood. I just want to wassle people all year long.
- [25:46]
A
Your singing's not a blessing.
- [25:48]
B
I'm going to go over to the Jers. I'm going to go to the Jordan and just. And wassle them. I just want to do that 2026 resolution. I'm Wassle people all year round.
- [26:00]
A
What are you gonna sing like in May?
- [26:02]
B
I need to start like a YouTube and tick tock channel. Was like, your mic. Comes a wassling or just the Wassler? Ooh, the Wassler.
- [26:12]
A
The Wassler. Those poor people.
- [26:15]
B
Oh, the Wasler.
- [26:16]
A
Some will call him Victor.
- [26:17]
B
Here comes the Wassler. Who's that guy walking through the neighborhood wassling? Well, bring my boombox. Me.
- [26:24]
A
Oh.
- [26:25]
B
One of the gifts I remember as a kid that I loved was a boombox. Did you have a boom box?
- [26:28]
A
Left turn.
- [26:30]
B
It was a memory that I got. I think it was a freshman. And I had a CD player in the boombox. And that was a radio from my room. That was like, entry to, like, no longer being a kid.
- [26:41]
A
No. I remember my first, I guess was considered a boombox. It was a CD player and it looked. Yeah, it was kind of big. And I got a Shania Twain cd. I was eight.
- [26:49]
B
Rich.
- [26:51]
A
We weren't. We weren't. So I don't know how. I mean, it probably wasn't anything fancy.
- [26:58]
B
The cd. I. Gosh, I remember the CD player on the top of it. I was like, this is.
- [27:01]
A
I'm still like. I was 8 years old, my mom gave me a twin CD.
- [27:04]
B
Is that not a man?
- [27:05]
A
I feel like a woman. I mean, there's some questionable things on there, but okay, I loved it.
- [27:12]
B
What was this?
- [27:13]
A
The thing is, it went over my head. I wasn't like. Like, Berkeley misses No lyric in a song to anything. She catches everything. She asked me, does this mean this? And she's always correct in what it means. So she's not like a typical child where you can play Those things, and it goes over their head. She misses nothing. And also, what drives me nuts. Since we're on the topic of lyrics, I don't know if you've noticed this, but our kids watch everything with subtitles, so they miss nothing. They see all the words. I have to tell them to turn.
- [27:42]
B
Subtitles off because you're always like, turn it down. Turn it down even more.
- [27:45]
A
So it's like, I don't know. That's not true. The tv, Such a liar. It's not that low.
- [27:52]
B
I love my dad. I love my dad to death. One pet peeve I have at his house is that when they have music that's so low you can barely hear it, it's funny. And if you're listening, I didn't even hear.
- [28:03]
A
I didn't think they had music on.
- [28:04]
B
It's just. It's just enough that it feels like somebody's just like. Just slightly touching you and just won't pull their finger off. It doesn't bother you that much. Eventually, like, either turn it up or turn it off. Like, that's.
- [28:15]
A
I never noticed them ever. I never thought they had music on.
- [28:18]
B
Yeah, it was. There was just occasionally, like, you would hear the. The jazz music in the background. It was, like, absolutely interesting.
- [28:23]
A
I didn't even think. I didn't even hear it. In fact, John didn't either because he goes, do y' all want to put some music on or something? He said that, So I know. I didn't hear John.
- [28:33]
B
I was teasing them. And Kathy said, well, if the music's too loud, people don't have conversations. I can. You know, I see your perspective.
- [28:39]
A
I get that.
- [28:39]
B
I'm on the. On the flip side, where louder music makes people talk louder, and then it gets more. Fills the room more. So I'm the person that.
- [28:46]
A
Loud music.
- [28:47]
B
No, but I think when the music tones up, other people's voices go up. So you feel like a smaller room. A bigger room feels smaller when people are louder. It's like, even. Even in restaurants and stuff, you have to have your music set properly.
- [28:59]
A
Unnerving. In restaurants when there's no music.
- [29:01]
B
Yeah. You're like. Because you feel empty. And you also feel like people hear your conversations. Right. So sometimes you're having a conversation. Even like in. In our family, when we have Christmas Eve and Christmas at our house with all the people over, you'll have, like 50 different conversations going at the same time. And it's kind of the fun of it. I remember that as a kid, my dad's parents always had People over on Christmas Eve and I remember just being like chaos and you would have like 100 different conversations for you know, 10 minutes with everyone and that was it. That'd be a long day.
- [29:30]
A
But so it'd be a really long day of conversations, of conversing.
- [29:33]
B
10 minutes every.
- [29:34]
A
So back to fossiling. I had the correct answer. So yes, let's do points. One point for me.
- [29:39]
B
You do get a point. Okay, what is the Advent and what.
- [29:43]
A
Is it about the Advent calendar when you. When you count down the days till Christmas?
- [29:48]
B
Okay. Yeah.
- [29:50]
A
Isn't it wasn't in the olden days. Didn't they bring gifts each day?
- [29:55]
B
No, that's not it. That lit candles. But it was. It does mean the arrival or the coming. Right. And that was a tradition. That was. The themes are hope, peace, joy and love. Which is. Which is.
- [30:06]
A
You should do something with that. That's fun.
- [30:08]
B
It was explicitly Christian created by early believers to prepare hearts for Christ's birth. And modern versions are calendars to simplify their spiritual cakes.
- [30:15]
A
12 day advent calendar. Got one for oh how we've evolved.
- [30:21]
B
Oh, bring it back to bath. Pillow sheets, pillow sheet. Pillow sheets, pillow sheet.
- [30:26]
A
I call it a pillow sheet for the rest of my life.
- [30:28]
B
I mean it is a pillow sheet if you think about it.
- [30:31]
A
Pillowcases.
- [30:33]
B
I'm gonna say why do they call it bed cases?
- [30:35]
A
I guess they don't call it bed cases.
- [30:37]
B
Pillow sheets and bed cases.
- [30:41]
A
I'm over you.
- [30:42]
B
Thank you. Anyway. Okay. Where did a Christmas tree come from?
- [30:49]
A
Outside. Thank you for asking.
- [30:50]
B
Thank you. Yes. Unless I get a point. Unless it's an artificial one and it lives inside your attic.
- [30:55]
A
I know they used to hang them upside down which looks like bad and anti Christian but it's not. They used to do that.
- [31:02]
B
Yeah, kinda. But you know where it actually came from?
- [31:05]
A
The original Connecticut.
- [31:07]
B
Connecticut. Yes. Thank you Connecticut for starting this starting the Christmas tree tradition. In the 1600s. Connecticut started. It didn't exist. It was German tradition and it had roots in pagan shout out to my.
- [31:23]
A
German people.
- [31:26]
B
Missing German pagan just means anything non Christ or non traditional religion. Right. It was a lot of treat like tree worshiping and nature worshiping and this one was dramatic based and they had a celebration and they put trees up the. The evergreen tree for that tradition was life through winter basically would you know, would live through it. And then the Christians adopted that because it was life through death through Christ. That was the. The whole tradition. And it was also up in the winter time. So just another assimilation.
- [31:56]
A
But do you know what I'M thinking about right now. What I can't get over the fact that I'm 73 German. How does that work? Your grandparents spoke German fluently, and I'm more German than you. How does that work? I don't know any Germans in my family, so obviously, we're, like, German unknowingly. I think it's my mom's side.
- [32:15]
B
It must be.
- [32:16]
A
But my point is, is, like.
- [32:19]
B
I.
- [32:19]
A
Didn'T know that until I did that test, like, DNA test, like, two years ago.
- [32:23]
B
I need to do one. I haven't done one for me, but I know. I know my sister.
- [32:26]
A
All.
- [32:26]
B
I know, my sister's done it. And we're, you know, we're German, Irish and Eastern European. Polish.
- [32:33]
A
Slew of things.
- [32:34]
B
Slew of things. And 1% Jew.
- [32:39]
A
Is that because your dad used to say that?
- [32:41]
B
Yes, but there was. There is, like, one. Yeah, yeah. Yes. So we got.
- [32:46]
A
Didn't he used to say y' all were, like, Jewish?
- [32:48]
B
Yeah, his. It's. And that actually comes from my. His grandmother made a lot of traditional Polish dishes which were, like. But there were unleavened breads and things like that. That, if you looked at it, it was very similar.
- [33:01]
A
Must be Jewish.
- [33:02]
B
It was very simple. No, but the cooking was very similar to Jewish, and it could probably be the same. Same thing. So I don't know if she was potentially a Polish Jew or not. But when they came to the U.S. they only practiced Christian tradition, so there's no, like, real evidence based on it other than the fact that, like, the food did seem to have Jewish roots to it. Okay, so I don't know. That's what. That's what he told me. But according to our DNA, there is a little bit. Yes. I don't know. It's in there. Oh, man. All right, ask me a question. I want one.
- [33:34]
A
What do you want for Christmas?
- [33:35]
B
My two front teeth.
- [33:36]
A
No, for real. I need ideas.
- [33:39]
B
I want. I want a watch, an ebike, a golf club. I want a trip to Vegas with you. I want.
- [33:50]
A
Honey, I told you, we're not doing Vegas already.
- [33:52]
B
You asked me what I want. I definitely don't want those bobble ears. Oh, joy.
- [34:00]
A
These.
- [34:03]
B
That's all I wanted.
- [34:03]
A
Oh, it's broken. I forgot to give these to you when we started. You can't do the Christmas episode and not be wearing Christmas ears.
- [34:12]
B
What I do love right now with having Vivi be, like, at the age where.
- [34:18]
A
What did you just do?
- [34:19]
B
I got one. We got one.
- [34:23]
A
Now that just looks dumb.
- [34:24]
B
Vivi was wearing the One Christmas thing with the bells on each other. It looked like a unicorn.
- [34:29]
A
It's a Christmas tree, but it looks like a horn.
- [34:32]
B
Looks like unicorn horn.
- [34:33]
A
Okay, but do you know what makes me sad is Berkeley's not wearing the headbands. I know, but Viv wears one every single day. Paired with a sweater.
- [34:41]
B
She has. She is Christmas carol like that. Like in Rolled up in a human being. She is.
- [34:48]
A
She yelled so loud the other morning because she didn't feel like her outfit was a in theme enough to, you know, they do days at school.
- [34:57]
B
I love it.
- [34:58]
A
She's like, this is not enough. Like, she love it if there's not a theme day she doesn't like at school.
- [35:04]
B
Yeah, I love it. I love the joy and I'm like the, you know, seeing it through her eyes. Well, like when Chase the elf came and. Yeah, she's looking at it. She's like. She wrote her note. She wrote him.
- [35:15]
A
Hold on. I took a picture of her note. We'll share it. Her nose.
- [35:19]
B
It's the greatest note.
- [35:20]
A
It's the most aggressive, directed. It's hilarious.
- [35:23]
B
But it's nice.
- [35:24]
A
The most pinpointed note to an elf. She's got questions and he needs to.
- [35:28]
B
Yeah, you probably should answer.
- [35:30]
A
It says 12, 9, 25. Dear Chase, please stop. Please stop wearing pajamas every day. And I've been wondering, why do you have the rope? Is it for the baby to climb up? I don't know, but I would like to know. Love, Vivian. And no is spelled no. I do not know, but I would like to know. Love, Vivian.
- [35:54]
B
Sounds.
- [35:55]
A
Please stop wearing pajamas every day. It's. We. He has new outfits this year. Okay. I actually think they're pretty cute. If I had to say so, I would pick them out.
- [36:06]
B
Hey, I don't. I really appreciate you coming. Got a couple points for you. Just a couple points.
- [36:10]
A
Wearing that crap.
- [36:11]
B
Really, really enjoy having my house. Just stop wearing that crap. And why you have a rope, man Carry a rope for you. Weirdo.
- [36:20]
A
So our elf always has, like, a rope to where it looks like he's climbed up.
- [36:24]
B
How? It's how he does climb.
- [36:26]
A
Yeah, it's how. Yeah, that's right. It's how he climbs up. And she wants to have clarity on that.
- [36:31]
B
And, you know, going back to the subject that we're not going to fully breach, but like, changing traditions and seeing Berkeley be involved in.
- [36:40]
A
In Vaughn.
- [36:40]
B
In. In Vaughn being involved with the elves and everything, that's fun.
- [36:45]
A
That is so fun.
- [36:45]
B
And it's nice.
- [36:46]
A
We don't do anything.
- [36:47]
B
And I Remember? I remember as a kid, you know, during that. That time of knowing, changing and just like going from the person, you almost feel like you're part of a club. Right. So I think if you frame it right, it is sort of sad in its own way. But at the same time, I mean, I think our. Our kids get a kick out of it as well. 100 tradition that will always continue, which you absolutely hate at my family. I know one, you know, weird Santa. You don't hate it.
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A
I.
- [37:12]
B
It's drunk. It's drunk Santa.
- [37:14]
A
I just get secondhand embarrassment mildly.
- [37:16]
B
So I don't know if he's drunk.
- [37:17]
A
Or if he's like, mildly embarrassed.
- [37:19]
B
I would call him senile Santa is who.
- [37:23]
A
I feel like. What it does is potentially hurts sand the real Santa a little bit.
- [37:28]
B
That's the only thing. No, it's not the real Santa. This is not the real one. But he comes by and my dad's done it pretty much historically. And he's a little senile. He. He enters the wrong doors and he.
- [37:40]
A
Makes a lot of mistakes. Perverted. He doesn't know where he is half of the time. He's also like, kind of pregnant because he uses one pillow on his stomach. It's very round.
- [37:51]
B
The year you had the flu, you didn't come to my family. Remember? The flu was like three years ago.
- [37:55]
A
Yes.
- [37:56]
B
So I did. I was. That was the year I did Santa. He said he was gonna retire, then I did it. Then he unretired. So I don't know if it was that I did it so bad or it was so good he had to do it. But I did mine. I channeled Nandor from. From what we do in the shadows. And that was the inspiration to my Santa, because the real Santa Claus. So the real story of St Nicholas, of St Nicholas Amira, which was from Turkey. Right.
- [38:24]
A
So I was like, can you please do the nandar.
- [38:27]
B
So Santa Claus, he talked like this the entire time.
- [38:31]
A
Sounds like a vampire.
- [38:32]
B
Yes. Hey, children, come to my lap. We are going to celebrate Christmas.
- [38:38]
A
Sound like I love you, Count Chocula.
- [38:41]
B
That's. Well, it was. He was meant to be Turkish. You missed Turkish Santa.
- [38:47]
A
I did. I can't tell if I'm sad or not.
- [38:50]
B
It was outstanding in my mind. And the problem is, is I feed off your energy. So nobody was really laughing except for my brother. So I would just stare at him the whole time because it. Like it was funny. It was you been you. At least I know he would have been laughing.
- [39:04]
A
I would humor you. Yes. 100 so I'm gonna leave you out there to dry. Oh, man. Who's gonna do it this year? You think?
- [39:13]
B
I want John to do it, but I don't know if John's gonna do.
- [39:15]
A
It, I'll do it. Santa's a woman.
- [39:20]
B
Look, my dad might.
- [39:21]
A
We all know how the mag. Who really cares the magic.
- [39:24]
B
My dad did dress up as Mrs. Claus one year. Him and his brother came as. As Santa and Mrs. Claus. And my dad was. It was like Mrs. Doubtfire. Legitimately. It was actually. It was hilarious. That was one of the more memorable silly Santas that we've ever had. Silly sound memory. That's what Vivian calls it. Silly Santa.
- [39:44]
A
We never did any, like, weird dress up like a woman on Christmas.
- [39:50]
B
I can't say the marshes did that one.
- [39:51]
A
Can't say we did that one memory. I don't know why it must. Obviously. This doll meant so much to me, clearly. But a memory around Christmas that I think about pretty often. I don't know why is. I was 8, and I really wanted this doll from somewhere in Oklahoma that I saw after coming back from my grandma's house. And we stopped in a doll store, and I fell in love with, like, this little redhead. It's one of the. Everything's kind of painted on, like, very expensive doll. I really wanted it. And I remember opening everything up on Christmas, and I didn't get the doll. And of course, I wanted to act like, yeah, I was happy. I got. Dad was like, she get everything you wanted? And I was like, yeah. And I'm sure in my mind, I probably said it nicely, but it probably was, like, you probably read on my face that I was not happy. And I remember my dad was like, well, you might want to look around the corner in the dining room. And I went and looked around the corner, and it was the doll.
- [40:47]
B
Nice.
- [40:47]
A
I remember that Your dad, He's such a.
- [40:50]
B
He. He did that to your brother when I was married to you. Like, he was. I think it was like, PlayStation 3 maybe when it came out. Yeah. Yes. Because he. He held it out to the end. He was like, got. Everything goes. Hey, Cole, I think I got one more gift. Like, something's in the end. Like Colton. Like a senior in high school. Yeah, but it was played. It was PlayStation 3 because they were impossible to find. And he got one, and it's like, 15, 16 years ago.
- [41:13]
A
I don't remember that.
- [41:14]
B
Oh, I remember that. I was like, dang. That's the first time I ever saw that many gifts in my entire life, too. I was like, this family doesn't spend a dollar the entire year except for Christmas. They spend it all at one time.
- [41:26]
A
I told you, my parents and my especially. She was the queen of making everything stretch. Like, she would take. And I have a little bit of that in me, too. We're like, no, wait. Can't catch me wrapping up a whole outfit. Everything will go in a separate box.
- [41:40]
B
That's right. Which also was one of the most annoying traditions of my entire life. That you guys wrapping things to go into a stocking.
- [41:48]
A
Still do it to this day.
- [41:49]
B
Doesn't make sense. I think it's more also legitimately, you were mad at me one year because I didn't properly do the stocking gifts.
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A
Which to me, you didn't even try.
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B
I grew up with it just being like candy. You get a couple pieces of candy and that's it. Like, it's. Yeah, but you have, like. It's basically just smaller gifts.
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A
Yeah, it's basically a gift basket.
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B
Yes.
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A
It's kind of practical gifts.
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B
It's all like, yeah, you're stocking stuffers. As you.
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A
Will we do it the correct way?
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B
Now I'm in. Now I. I sold it. But your dad took that whole thing to find from Santa from A Christmas Story. That's from that movie. Remember where Ralphie has the gun? He wants the air rifle and he doesn't know where it is.
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A
I never thought about that.
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B
Which is, by the way, probably. Probably my second favorite Christmas movie.
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A
What's your favorite first favorite?
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B
I still gotta go with Elf. I do. I love that movie. Really?
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A
I mean, I love Elf. I do Over Christmas Vacation or Christmas Story.
- [42:47]
B
I do like Christmas Vacation, but that's probably number three. Yeah. Like Home Alone. And those are all up there. They're like, top four. But A Christmas Story I love because the entire movie is like this fantastical tale of a narrator telling the story of his kid.
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A
Right.
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B
Which is funny because then it's like, I get why they even. It's all like tall tales, which. It's so cool.
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A
I love dramatic and stuff.
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B
That's.
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A
I think each Christmas movie gives me a different feeling, if that makes sense. There's something so nostalgic. I don't know why, but the Santa Claus, the first one is so good. And I don't know why, but there's little specific scenes that, like, give me the warm fuzzies. And then like, just from nostalgic, like, I think of me watching it as a kid Christmas story. I love. Just because I love that it's styled back like what, in the 50s or 60s? Yeah. I love that Christmas vacation because it's so funny. It's just hilarious.
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B
Widely inappropriate for children.
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A
I was gonna say our kids haven't seen it, but I can watch it. Well, I was talking to my friends and like all their kids have seen it. I'm like, what?
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B
I remember watching. I remember watching that. It probably.
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A
They said that if you watch it on tv, they cut out some of the inappropriate things.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So maybe we start on tv.
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B
But anyway, the department store scene.
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A
I was about to say it's the department scene. And then when he's like fantasizing about her jumping in the pool. Those are the two. If those two scenes weren't in there, it would be fine.
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B
Yes. Yeah. All right, Little debate questions for you.
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A
Oh, I love debating with you every day.
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B
Die Hard. Is that a Christmas movie or not?
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A
I've never seen Die Hard.
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B
What?
- [44:16]
A
I don't know what that is, honestly. I know Bruce Willis is in it. I think.
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B
Okay, chalk that up to what we're watching tonight. We're watching Die Hard. We're gonna determine that with the kids. Yeah, no, you and I go. I think I'll be fine with that one.
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A
I think I asked my dad his favorite Christmas movie or I said something about Christmas movie. He said die Hard and I was like, diehard's a Christmas movie.
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B
Well, it's in Christmas season, so it's like not really Christmas movie, but the whole, the whole tower and terrorist thing is all around. It's during Christmas season.
- [44:43]
A
So isn't there one with Arnold Schwarzenegger as like a school cop that's also Christmas or no school cop.
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B
Well, Jingle all the Way is with Arnold Schwarzenegger. That's a good movie. But oh, one movie that I like that I didn't like.
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A
Christmas with the Cranks.
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B
That one. I thought it was the dumbest movie. I'm like, this is so dumb. And I'm like, I watch that movie this year. I love it.
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A
It's so funny. It's cuz you have to watch it with someone.
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B
Oh my gosh.
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A
Why did you hate it so much?
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B
I don't know. Because I thought it was cheesy and it is easy and Jamie Lee Curtis is like, her character is kind of like the same in all of them. So I don't know, maybe it just wasn't a major fan of like just being that care. I don't know anything.
- [45:18]
A
Go all the Way is so good. Christmas with the Cranks is so good.
- [45:20]
B
It's a great movie. And Jam. Lee Curtis is a great actress.
- [45:23]
A
Okay. You probably don't like them, but for the girls, the holiday and the family stone are just. You can't beat them. As far as, like, those. You can watch Rom Com Christmas ones.
- [45:34]
B
You're absolutely welcome to watch it. Real Christmas tree or fake Christmas tree?
- [45:40]
A
Fake. I'm too much of a control freak. I want to be able to move the branches around.
- [45:44]
B
Yeah, I agree with that. I think that I like the idea of the way a real one would smell. But I. But we did re. My dad used to do real. And the cleanup was aids.
- [45:55]
A
I say they're messy.
- [45:56]
B
Yes. Like the mother. The. If you. You have to keep it in water and keep it water, otherwise the needle start to fall down and it gets sticky and sappy. Yeah, but the smell.
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A
No.
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B
I could see how people would love that tradition of it.
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A
But I've heard it's, like, horrendous, too, if you get a really sappy one that drops SAP everywhere.
- [46:11]
B
Jackie. Oh, remember? I got one. I went and cut one with Jackie and her family. That's when Aunt. Gosh, I don't think Vivian was born yet.
- [46:20]
A
Why wasn't I there?
- [46:21]
B
You were pregnant, so I couldn't come. You didn't come. You were pregnant. I went with Andy and them and I'd. Vaughn with me.
- [46:29]
A
Where did I go?
- [46:29]
B
No, you had Berkeley back at the house. Berkeley didn't go. I know for a fact Berkeley didn't go.
- [46:34]
A
Oh, like at Sue's house. She's probably in bed.
- [46:36]
B
Yep.
- [46:37]
A
Okay.
- [46:37]
B
You didn't go or. Yeah, so I think he was.
- [46:40]
A
Burke was a baby.
- [46:40]
B
Berkeley was a baby. Yeah. All right. The best Christmas villain. The Grinch, Scrooge. Uncle Frank.
- [46:49]
A
Oh, the guy from Jingle all the Way. The postman.
- [46:52]
B
Oh, good one. What's his name? Tata?
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A
Turtle Man.
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B
Turtle Man. Turtle Man. What is his name? That's Sinbad. The actor. Yeah. Which, by the way, do you. Do you ever. Do you have any recollection as a child seeing the movie Shazam?
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A
Yes.
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B
With Sinbad in it.
- [47:16]
A
Yes.
- [47:16]
B
That movie doesn't exist.
- [47:18]
A
Where is it?
- [47:18]
B
It's called. I'm telling There. It never was made. There's no movie called Sinbad or called Shazam With Sinbad in it?
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A
Where'd it go?
- [47:27]
B
It never was made. This is the whole thing. So there's something called the Mandela effect.
- [47:32]
A
Lots of times it's.
- [47:34]
B
There's no such. Go ahead and go look at it right now. It's called the Mandela effect, where people have these shared memories that never happened. I remember.
- [47:42]
A
What?
- [47:42]
B
I remember seeing it as well.
- [47:44]
A
I remember scenes.
- [47:45]
B
Yeah, but it's not. Sinbad wasn't in that movie. There's no movie called Shazam With Sinbad in it. There was a movie with Shaq in it.
- [47:53]
A
Yes.
- [47:53]
B
Maybe Kazam. But there was no Shazam with.
- [47:57]
A
Well, then maybe that's what I'm thinking.
- [47:59]
B
Yeah.
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A
Kazam.
- [48:01]
B
Yeah, Shazam. But anyway, it's called. There's this whole thing.
- [48:04]
A
I've seen Kazam With Shaq.
- [48:07]
B
Or did you see the one with. No, no, look at. What was Shazam Supposed to be with Sinbad? Mandela effect is. We can talk about this in another one. A conspiracy one. These are things where people have met, like memories that they're convinced to happen. Like Berenstain Bears versus Berenstein Bears. Do you remember it being Berenstain or Baron Berenstein?
- [48:28]
A
Berenstein.
- [48:29]
B
Yeah, but it's Berenstain.
- [48:30]
A
But it says Sinbad pronotes the Shazam on the something show. Sinbad's Shazam Genie movie. Yeah.
- [48:38]
B
No such thing. Great Mandela effect.
- [48:43]
A
It's a genie movie.
- [48:45]
B
Didn't happen.
- [48:46]
A
It's right here.
- [48:46]
B
No such thing. Didn't exist.
- [48:47]
A
Mean, I've seen this movie. It was so good. Shazam Wasn't a movie. It was an April Fool's joke collaboration of Simbad. What? I'm so confused.
- [48:58]
B
There's no movie. There's no movie called Shazam. Shazam Is a non existent movie that many people believe they've seen starring Sinbad as an incompetent genie who grants wishes to children. It never was made. It's a shared memory that people don't have. I remember it being shared memory that people do have. You mean, do they have? Yeah, it's called. It's something called the Mandela effect where they think that, like, something happened where these memories were erased. It's a whole conspiracy. It's a whole nother. A whole nother podcast for another time.
- [49:27]
A
I'm gonna look into it.
- [49:29]
B
Some people were like. Because Mandela. Some people have a memory of Nelson Mandela.
- [49:32]
A
You have one Christmas trees.
- [49:33]
B
Some people have a memory of Nelson Mandela dying in prison, which he didn't. He became president. So they're like. We're like. There's all these. These Berenstain versus Berenstein bears. There's a few other ones.
- [49:43]
A
Makes me think of that show we're.
- [49:44]
B
Watching, Pluribus, kind of like that, where there's. All right, cool. Shazam. All right. What traditions you want to keep forever? Pick one.
- [50:00]
A
Going Christmas shopping for the Siblings. We need to do that this year. We haven't done it yet. Picking.
- [50:05]
B
This is a forever one. Like that we're kids. Like, think about something that when we're grandparents. That I hope our kids are continuing to do.
- [50:11]
A
I'm gonna give them all the CDs.
- [50:14]
B
You want the Norman Rockwell.
- [50:16]
A
Yeah.
- [50:16]
B
Christmas. Okay. You're the burn. Some CDs. I don't know if you can.
- [50:20]
A
I think it's very appropriate when our kids are married with families. If we pick them up one night, just them, none of their spouses, and we have to go pick out ornaments for the tree. I think that's acceptable.
- [50:29]
B
Yeah.
- [50:32]
A
Sorry. Wives and husbands are not allowed.
- [50:34]
B
Look, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna say this one. So it'll be controversial and we'll see. I want Christmas Eve night at our house kind of forever. I hope our kids. I know eventually we're gonna. I know they're gonna eventually gonna be like, come to our house. Just like we are. Just like, we're like, yeah, mom, dad, we have kids. Remember how you said we'? Definitely. And then we're like, fine.
- [50:53]
A
No, I think. I don't think people want to host two days in a row, though. That's not typical. Something that's big. So I bet they'll be like, mom, you guys can keep Christmas Eve, but if you want to be with us on Christmas, you have to come to our house. I bet that's what we do.
- [51:06]
B
That's awesome.
- [51:06]
A
I don't know. We'll let you guys know. The podcast will still be kicking for 40 years. It won't even have to be 40 years at 20 years till they have kids.
- [51:14]
B
Theoretically. I mean, Vaughn's 12, right? You were 23 when you had me, so be. You could be 11. 11 years.
- [51:20]
A
On that note, could you believe that?
- [51:22]
B
Wow.
- [51:23]
A
Double Christmas. Everybody who has been around. This is what I started posting publicly on the Internet in 2019. Well, I did a blog in 2015, but like on Instagram, stories and whatnot. 2019. So we're going on like six or seven years. Another Christmas together.
- [51:41]
B
Can you believe that? Are we. Are we gonna do a New Year's one or are we gonna.
- [51:45]
A
We are next week or the next. We're on a bi weekly posting schedule.
- [51:50]
B
Next episode will be some resolutions.
- [51:52]
A
And you know I love resolutions.
- [51:54]
B
You do?
- [51:55]
A
Always have.
- [51:55]
B
They're great.
- [51:57]
A
But I'm gonna have something to talk about.
- [51:59]
B
We're gonna lie. Thanks for following along. If you haven't subscribed, subscribe on any of your listening platforms. Right? Give us a review if you love it. And.
- [52:07]
A
And. Merry Christmas, guys. Merry, Merry Christmas.
- [52:09]
B
I'm excited. This is crazy.
- [52:12]
A
Hopefully y' all learned something. Mike brought all the facts I have about Christmas.
- [52:16]
B
A book of facts. If we ever want. If anyone wants a deep dive on Christmas facts and the history of it outside the Christian. The Christian tradition. Because we are strong believers and really know that the whole meaning of the season is not the gifts and not tax. It is about Christ entering this world. Hope he gave us to through his right, through God's ultimate sacrifice, which we're very grateful for. So, yes, have a Merry Christmas.
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A
Merry Christmas, guys.
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B
Bye.