Ep. 213: New Year, Same Us

Summary

Podcast Summary: "You, Me & Mike – Ep. 213: New Year, Same Us"

Original Air Date: December 31, 2025
Hosts: Jenn and Mike Todryk
Podcast by: Thirteen Media/The Rambling Redhead

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Episode Overview

In this special New Year’s episode, married co-hosts Jenn and Mike Todryk reflect on personal growth, routines, resolutions, family dynamics, and the importance of novelty as they head into 2026. Using their trademark banter and candid storytelling, they dive into lessons from the past year and their hopes for the next, mixing nostalgia, practical advice, humor, and heartfelt moments.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

New Year’s Reflections and Traditions

• Nostalgia and Milestones:
  • The couple discusses major milestones — their 15th wedding anniversary and Mike’s 20-year high school reunion.
  • Jenn humorously recounts her role as her class's “parliamentarian,” only recently learning it meant she was supposed to be the rules expert and adviser for the class president, not just a party planner.
    • “I could have really made this role big.” (03:38, Jenn)
• Auld Lang Syne Fumbling:
  • Opening with a lighthearted mix-up about the traditional New Year’s song.

Personal Growth, Burnout, and Renewed Inspiration

• Jenn’s Burnout and Renewal:
  • 2024 was supposed to be Jen’s year for renovating her own home, but after three years of heavy client work for her HGTV show, she felt burnt out and did little until unforeseen water damage forced her to design again.
    • “It forced my hand to actually sit and design. ...I think as of last week, I have caught the bug, and I want to keep going.” (07:23, Jenn)

Family Dynamics and Change

• Routine and the Passage of Time:
  • How raising kids accelerates the perception of time, and how adulthood routines can make life feel faster and less memorable.
  • “The minute we had children, time got put on the 4x speed button and I hate that.” (11:36, Jenn)
  • Mike cites psychology research: new experiences anchor memories and slow down perceived time, routine speeds it up.
    • “Novelty creates memories. ...Routine has no memory associated to it.” (13:04, Mike)
• Making Memories:
  • Both host emphasize that meaningful memories don’t require extravagant vacations, but rather, intentional new experiences as a family or individually.
    • “We don't need a bigger life for our families, we need a more memorable one.” (52:31, Mike)
    • “You don't need huge vacations to create memories; you just need to do something new.” (52:40, Mike)

Trying New Things and the Importance of Novelty

• Challenging Themselves and Each Other:
  • The couple explores practical ideas for novelty, from board games and family tennis to personal hobbies like Mike entertaining the idea of painting or even voice acting.
    • “As an adult, if you only do the same thing over and over... I think we're losing what means it's. God didn't intend us here to just do the exact same everything.” (41:02, Mike)
• Kids and Novelty:
  • Noting their daughter Berkeley’s love of trying new things and suggesting a “Berkeley approach” to adulthood.

Setting & (Not) Sticking to New Year’s Resolutions

• Resolution Skepticism:
  • Both dismiss resolutions as largely ineffective (“Resolutions are like dreams. Sure, just do it.” – 33:33, Jenn), instead suggesting practical, attainable goals.
• Why Resolutions Fail:
  • Mike shares data: only about 1 in 10 people stick to New Year’s resolutions. Reasons include setting vague or guilt-motivated goals.
  • Forming new habits takes about 66 days (not 21 as commonly believed).
• Accountability and Community:
  • The likelihood of success dramatically increases with accountability.
    • “If you want to make a resolution... accountability turns intention into action.” (58:04, Mike)
    • Jenn: “Half the battle is having... someone to check in and be like, how you doing on that?” (58:27)

Personal Goals & Habits for 2026

• Jenn’s Micro-goals:
  • Go to bed earlier and prioritize sleep (“I would love to be in bed by 10...” – 48:13)
  • Maintain her tennis hobby and perhaps embrace cross-stitching.
  • Acknowledge she’s an “old soul,” loves productivity but needs downtime.
• Mike’s Micro-goals:
  • Reintegrate regular fitness after back injury (with comedic references to “bodybuilding”).
  • Find a new personal/family hobby for the sake of novelty.
  • Lower his golf score and play more regularly.

Balancing Routine, Novelty, and Family Life

• Recognize the inherent comfort and security of routine but stress that adults must actively seek novelty for fulfillment.
• Small things can create new memories — even trying a new restaurant together or learning a new simple skill.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Routine and Memories:
  • “If you did the brain mapping of a person in a coma and a person that does daily routines, they look the same. So basically when you're in routine, you are in a coma.” (40:26, Mike)
• On Adult Hobbies:
  • “I really have enjoyed cross stitching, so I wonder if I want...”—“All right, Nana.” (24:36–24:43, Jenn & Mike)
• On the Joys and Ironies of Parenting:
  • “Kids 100. I didn't feel that way, like after we got married. ... You almost devalue it in your mind. You're like, what did we do with all that time?” (11:42, Jenn)
• On Prioritizing Time:
  • “We do all have time... We just have to assign it differently.” (46:53, Jenn)
• On Memory and Novelty:
  • “The goal shouldn't be to do more this year. It's to remember more.” (53:54, Mike)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–03:30 – Intro, New Year’s wishes, anniversary, parliamentarian story
• 06:30–08:30 – Reflections on burnout, changes in home/family routines
• 11:19–14:00 – How novelty influences time perception and memory
• 19:05–21:36 – Segment on the benefits of Seed, importance of new wellness habits
• 25:13–27:05 – Personality types, introversion/extroversion in adulthood
• 33:06–36:35 – Resolutions vs. goals, data on habit formation
• 41:02–44:50 – Routine vs. novelty and practical steps for change
• 46:53–48:10 – Discussion about prioritizing time and realistic goals
• 52:31–56:06 – Making memorable family moments, importance of small adventures
• 58:04–59:44 – Accountability as the key to success, role of partners/friends

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Takeaways & Closing Thoughts

• The hosts champion intentionality over intensity — consistently trying new things, even small ones, can make family life more meaningful.
• Resolutions only work with clear intentions, attainable micro-goals, and accountability.
• “Novelty” is the thread that weaves memorable years, not just busy ones.
• The Todryks encourage listeners to choose even one tiny new thing in 2026, treasure routines but disrupt them occasionally, and savor the gift of everyday life with humor and heart.

Happy New Year from Jenn & Mike!

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Listener Call-to-Action:
Share your resolutions or questions by emailing [e-mail] or leaving a review on Apple Podcasts.

Transcript

[A]

What's the song for the New Year's? We are just jumping right into you. What's that song? How's it go?

[B]

Isn't it time I'll lang sing it?

[A]

I don't know what it is. It's the New year, right? Yeah, that's it. I just made the word. Happy New Year.

[B]

Mike just jumped right into it. Welcome to the New year podcast episode. We are technically, this will be coming out December 31st, so check. Happy New Year.

[A]

Happy almost New Year. Yeah. Happy listening to the 31st. And happy new Year for those who are made it into 2026. Isn't that crazy?

[B]

Crazy? Oh, yeah. If you've listened, you might be listening.

[A]

2,026. It's wild. It's gonna be 15 years of marriage this year.

[B]

That's 20 years since I graduated high school, which is so sad. 20 years. Do you know? Want to know a fun fact?

[A]

No.

[B]

I'm going to tell you anyway because that's what you do to me. You just tell me what do I do?

[A]

I'd love to hear a fun fact.

[B]

I am supposed to be planning our High school reunion. 20 year reunion.

[A]

Are you that person? The planner?

[B]

Well, I'm senior class parliamentarian and I did nothing until right this year. So now I have to plan a party.

[A]

Does parliamentarian mean party planner? Is that what that means?

[B]

I think parliamentarian is.

[A]

Party planner.

[B]

Mush.

[A]

Party planner. Terrian.

[B]

It's party planner with a couple of drinks. Some senior class problem.

[A]

I don't think that's a real word. I think.

[B]

Ask me what the parliamentarian did.

[A]

What did the parliamentarian do?

[B]

Helped plan prom. That's it.

[A]

So it is a party planner.

[B]

What does a parliamentarian even do? What was I supposed to be doing?

[A]

No idea.

[B]

You don't know what parliament is?

[A]

Parliamentarian.

[B]

Yeah. What did that?

[A]

I don't. I think that's only like a high school or like maybe college thing. I don't think that's a real if I'm. Oh, you were asking Senior class in Google.

[B]

If I'm senior class parliamentarian, what would my duties entail? What does parliamentarian even mean?

[A]

Let's go to. Let's go to the source. Who'd you ask on this one?

[B]

Chat.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It said, what would my duties be? In jail. I didn't ask. Okay. It understood. It said not jail. Lol. Okay. Parliamentary refers to parliamentary procedure. Formal route rules. Used to run meetings in an organized, fair and efficient way.

[A]

It's right up your alley.

[B]

I didn't do any of that. The rules Expert.

[A]

But it's been digressed into.

[B]

You have to. But this is what's funny. You just have to know the basic rules of parliamentary procedure. What does that even mean? Advise the class. Okay, I was not told my duties. I was supposed to be the advisor of the class president. I'm sorry, but don't I sound like the CEO above the president?

[A]

If you're making the reunion anything. You know what? It sounds.

[B]

I was the boss the whole time. I thought it was the least valuable.

[A]

It sounds. Well, you're advising the boss, which means you.

[B]

I didn't do that at all.

[A]

So I.

[B]

Maybe I was robbed.

[A]

Somehow, somewhere, some. Some class president was like, I don't want to plan this reunion. I'm going to pass this off to the parliamentarian. And then in the rest of the class, Bread and Scott together. Like that's a good idea.

[B]

So in the meeting, I was supposed to keep the meetings organized on trap. I was supposed to politely point out when rules aren't being followed. I'm supposed to help prevent chaos or side conversations or unfair votes.

[A]

As riveting as this is, I'm not sure this is relevant to the.

[B]

I'm so sad. I could have really made this role big.

[A]

Are you going to plan it? Are you going to do the 20 year.

[B]

I don't want to, actually. I just want to quit being parliamentarian. I don't want to do it.

[A]

Did you know that?

[B]

That's not.

[A]

Did you know when you were 17 years old that. Wait, how. How is it your 20 year reunion when you're.

[B]

I graduated when I was 17. Yeah, but I graduated in 2006. That was my class.

[A]

Okay, you're. You're 37 this year? Okay.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I'm just trying to think. I thought you were 37 already.

[B]

No, I am 37 already.

[A]

Would you be 38? Okay, that makes. Wait, I guess that would make sense because you've been. Yeah, right. It's. Okay, so they. The reunion happens at the end of the year. That makes sense. Putting the math.

[B]

Well, I think it's supposed to happen in like, maybe.

[A]

Okay, makes sense. My 20 years coming up as well. I graduated when I was 30.

[B]

You're such a liar. Okay, so back to New year. That was riveting. Actually, I. I'm gonna think about this for at least a week. How I could have really had a major impact on my school.

[A]

But did you know that when you were 17, 20 years from now, like, we make decisions.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That would impact you 20 years later. Did you realize that? Did you. Did you think that was going to be something you be struggling planning?

[B]

No, I couldn't even decide what I was going to be in life. Like, every week I was a new. I came home and I was like, well, I found it. I'm going to be a lawyer. Well, I found it. I was going to be a detective. Oh, well, I found it. I was going to be. What was another. I wanted to be a teacher. Teacher fashion came later in college, actually.

[A]

You wanted to be an actress.

[B]

I did, but I also was super logical, probably because my parents. But like, I never. I don't remember being like, I'm going to be an actress. And that's the hill I'm gonna die.

[A]

Listen, I watched your 42nd street recording recently and I was like, that's a pro. Like, of all the people that were pros, I'm like, that's the one I would assigned you, put you on a contract. Let's go.

[B]

Being nice.

[A]

No, you're really good.

[B]

Let's go. Are you trying to say you're gonna sign me right now? You have no authority to sign me to anything.

[A]

I would have.

[B]

I would have been okay if you want to be really uncomfortable. And it takes a lot for me to be embarrassed. And usually embarrassment happens when something stupid. And I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm so embarrassed. I can't believe I said that. And then it haunts me for 24. Until I sleep, essentially. But that even doesn't happen a lot, watching myself. Myself perform in a musical with my whole family watching. I left the room. I couldn't do it.

[A]

I was like, kids were into it. They loved it.

[B]

Yeah, it was really good. I know.

[A]

You're very good. It was. I wasn't an embarrassing thing. That'd be one thing if you were like. Like, oh, gosh, I was awful, I think. I don't know. I don't know why you're so embarrassed.

[B]

About it, but I wouldn't sing in front of my parents either. When I was growing up. Like, to rehearse for a play, I'd be like, nope, you got to see it on stage. If there wasn't the stage and the lights, I'm not singing in front.

[A]

Isn't that weird? I guess I drowned out your embarrassment by just being.

[B]

Because I just got sucked into it. Like, I loved it so much.

[A]

Okay, anyway, well, Happy New Year.

[B]

Happy New Year.

[A]

Are you feeling about this New year? You excited 2026? Do you know what I feel about fearful, Tired? When am I ever fearful? I don't know. I'm just asking you. I'm throwing it out there. As an interviewer, I feel.

[B]

When you say this, I feel. No, I'm just kidding. 2026, I have. Okay, so 2024 was the year I said I was going to focus on, like, renovating our own home, and I was going to focus on my home instead of, you know, a lot of client homes, because that's when I had not told the public that I was going to pause on the show. But I had already made my mind up, and I had said that, and I did not do much in 2024. I think I was just designing was something I did not want to do right at that second because I was coming off of three years of doing multiple hundreds of designs in such a short time, which is insane. That's not real life. Like, designers don't do over 100 a year. That's insane. So I think I was a little burnt out. But right now, because of the roof leaks that we've had in the water damage, it forced our hand. It forced my hand to actually sit and design. And I think as of, like, last week, I have, like, caught the bug, and I want to keep going. And I think 2026 will be making our home everything I want it to be, because we're not moving. We're not leaving. Right. So I think that's what it is for me.

[A]

Well, I got a realtor coming over.

[B]

Whatever.

[A]

See what the house is worth.

[B]

Whatever.

[A]

No, now, hey, this the last anytime that we've done a res. Renovation or something major, within, like, six months, the house is on the market. Not think about that.

[B]

This is the longest we've ever been home.

[A]

When the home. The. The first home that we built where we finally finished the backyard, the extended. The patio.

[B]

Finished is a strong word. We started it.

[A]

No, we. We added the big extended covered patio, and then as soon as we paid that off, we. House was on the market.

[B]

That's true. The second house that we were in, we renovated it. We. No, we were there for longer than four years, so. But this is definitely the longest we've ever been in one spot. It's nice.

[A]

17, 18, 19, 19 20. It was four years.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah, but we didn't. We did the plans. Oh, you know what it was? I put together the plans to redo the backyard and all the things, and then we didn't do it. That's what it was. So we actually didn't do that one.

[B]

How do you feel? What do you feel about 2026?

[A]

I think I Look, there's a lot that I want to accomplish in 26. I think it's going to be a year. I think there's always things if you step back and you could be like, you know, the unknowns are fearful and also the known knowns are exciting. But I'm never a person that lives in fear. Like I'm not sure, you know, think about the match links. What's going to happen with the economy, the housing market, interest rates, all these different things. There's a lot of weird things happening. I cautiously optimistic about what's going to happen in 26. I still think that there's a lot that will happen. So from a bigger picture, you know, like that impacts armor and the businesses. I think there's a lot of contraction. There's a lot of businesses going out of like restaurants and coffee shops going out of business.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Hunts so in breweries and all this things. So contraction could be fearful but that creates opportunity and opportunity can be exciting and I'm optimistic about that. But yeah, and there's, you know, I'm. I think it's gonna be a cool year. You know this, this 26 we have. We're not changing any schools for our kids. They're all going to be in the same school. There's me a little bit more routine. We kind of have a lot of good things happening. You know, we have hormones starting to happen for our oldest. Right.

[B]

So it's like the hormones happening in the entire home. Yeah, I got a lot of hormones all over the place.

[A]

I think there's a lot. I'm looking forward to it.

[B]

From interest rates to hormones.

[A]

It's like new.

[B]

Ain't that the truth.

[A]

Here's what I like about it. There's always new things happening as the kids get older. It creates opportunities to do new things. Look. What you know, like Berkeley. I can be like hey Berkeley, do you want to learn and do a be a professional rock painter and take class? And she'll be like yes, yes, I want to do it.

[B]

I want to become a professional.

[A]

She is, she is all our children is the one that's like hand up. I will try something. Highly motivated, wants to do something new, willing to say yes. Like she is that, that person. And I kind of want to chain a little Berkeley this year and say what new stuff we can do? I don't know, it's kind of.

[B]

I already do that. So I'm good. I took on tennis.

[A]

I hey, that was 20.

[B]

I have taken on mahjong.

[A]

25. Mahjong has been good.

[B]

I mean I'm, I'm. I don't have a ton of time to say yes to new things but I would love for you to, you know, get more into golf and have that hobby because I feel like I.

[A]

Have said no wife ever. Thank you. You said it.

[B]

I've gained, oh, I have no resentment for it. I have gained so much fulfillment by having a hobby. You have no idea to where. It's like sometimes problematic. Cuz I want to play tennis. I want to go play tennis right now. And like I think this year was the year that I said I will say yes to tennis. Like it will become a very top priority. And I did. And I was, well I was going.

[A]

To really, I was going this later in kind of the notes I read wrote out about like trying new things and resolutions and stuff like that. But one, one thing is, is do I guess this leads in this question. Do you feel like time goes faster now as a kid or versus or now versus when you're a kid or slower?

[B]

I feel like the minute we had children time got put on the 4x speed button and I hate that.

[A]

You think so?

[B]

Yes. Kids 100. I didn't feel that way like after we got married I felt like we were just doing whatever we wanted to do. It's just you look back and you're like, oh my gosh, what was my life before kids? And you almost like do this weird. I've talked with friends about this. You almost, it sounds bad, but you almost like devalue it in your mind. You're like what did we do with all that time? And then I'm always like did we do it good enough? Like did we spend enough time like doing these things? That would be my like one advice to people right before they have kids is like, do what you want to do now. Because I'm telling you there are so many people who are like my kids are just going to be thrown into my life. It's never going to change. That's a hundred percent not realistic. And everyone realizes that because you have to cater around your kids and their school and you don't get a choice if they're going to public school.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. So there's, there's data associated to like this time dilation, this idea that speed like time goes faster versus slower. And psychologists relate this to like memories. Like novelty creates memories. So anything that's new has an anchor to have an opportunity for a new memory. And that memory makes time perceive as slower. Routine has no memory associated to it.

[B]

Oh, that makes sense.

[A]

So when you have this routine, you don't. Time's going the same speed, but if you've done the same thing every single day, you do it over and over and over and over again. You feel like time you don't really remember.

[B]

Sounds horrible, but it kind of makes sense for what I'm saying.

[A]

Correct. Yes.

[B]

You start becoming very regimented and routine with children because you have to be.

[A]

And when you're a kid, you have no responsibility.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you have all firsts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're experiencing new every single day for the most part. Up until like, you know, maybe I think they want. I heard this and I can't quote me on that one. Haley can fact check me. But I want to say it's like 30 is when like routine can just really get set into place. And then it just accelerates after 30 because your brain is already rerouted, just turned 30.

[B]

Aren't you excited about what we're saying?

[A]

But it's. But before that, you have a lot of firsts. And obviously as a kid, everything's the first. So think about this even as, like, I remember very strongly having memories of related to the holidays. Going to my dad's mom's house for Christmas Eve. And I would drive there and it would felt like it was the longest party ever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I remember driving back and it was maybe a 20 minute drive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I have memories of listening to Silent Night because it's like 10 o' clock at night. We're driving back 11 o'. Clock. It's late, not a lot across the street. Looking out the window and just listening to the music and feeling like it was like the longest drive ever. And it's 20 minutes.

[B]

20 minutes.

[A]

Or riding my bike to my buddy's house that was right down the road, which I think I've shown you. My house is like a five minute walk. And like, oh my gosh, it's naked forever to get to their house.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now as a person, you just jump in your car and you drive and you're like, that's 45 minutes. And you just.

[B]

Okay, so this could. I'm. I'm gonna say a statement that I remember and then I'm gonna give an example with my parents. And I want to see if you think it maybe reverses after kids leave. So I have very distinct memories. Before we had children, we'd both get home from work and look at each other and be like, you want to go see a movie?

[A]

You want.

[B]

Like, that's wild to me. That we had that when I. So I'm thinking of these memories, and I'm like, that's so insignificant. Why do I remember that? And I think it's because we don't do that now. We don't just come home and be like, works done. Like, what do we want to do?

[A]

We were always pretty.

[B]

That doesn't exist, Right? Yeah.

[A]

We did a lot of things in the last minute. So again, these novelty. These things are creating memories and what Sometimes spontaneity.

[B]

We play video games. Like, we'd sit and, like, hit sit in the media room and, like, splurge. Hang out with the dog. Like, it's wild.

[A]

But we do that with our kids.

[B]

We thought we were stressed sometimes, which is funny.

[A]

You were stressed because you had to do a inventory set or something. Or your mood boards. I remember you being up the middle of the night doing your mood boards. Was it Zara or.

[B]

Yeah, I would work for, like, fun.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because, like, why not? I would bring it home.

[A]

You had poster boards you'd put together to create things which you didn't have to do.

[B]

Nope. They're like, why did you make this? I'm like, I don't know. Because of the. Of our numbers. These are selling really well. I think we should move these. I made that job so much bigger than what that job was.

[A]

But you probably made the store so much better because you actually gave a crap about it. So it's just going back, even to a novelty aspect of it.

[B]

Oh, wait, I didn't finish my thought. Okay, so, okay, we have that. I have memories of us, like, sitting at even the bar stools at the island, like, figuring out what we wanted to do if we wanted to stay at home and jammies or, like, go do something and then. Which is crazy because that's not even anything crazy, but I wonder if my parents think time has gone slower since we've left and now they're back to that routine of they get to just come home from work and look at each other and be like, what do you want to do? Like, I know everyone thinks they have. Everyone in the moment is. Thinks they're stressed because that's what you're used to in the moment. But, like, that sounds like heaven. Maybe. But also, I don't want it.

[A]

No, I don't want that.

[B]

I don't either. I want it.

[A]

My sister sent me a picture. I said that earlier. She sent me a picture from, like, six, seven years ago when the kids were. Vaughn and Berkeley are doing cookies with the cousins. And. And it that feels like yesterday to me.

[B]

Right?

[A]

It's like what the heck? How old are they? Like, and that's when I get that nostalgic. I'm like, oh my gosh. Bob was just 6 years old and now he's 12. And he's turning into this like he's going from boy, he's not man by any means yet, but he's, he's in that transition now of right. Hitting, just starting to hit puberty. And he's gonna be, yeah, he's gonna be a man before we know it. Like literally six years from now he's 18 years old and that's a. Like he went from baby to this in between to six years from now again that he's going to college, right. And he's out of the house. And it's, it's that big transition. These six year gaps, his kids crazy. But thinking about time and new. That's what I say. So even related to a new job. You mentioned a job. I think anytime it's one thing where I think from the entrepreneurial standpoint where I loved about it because it's like forcing myself to do something new. And I like that and that my brain was like, it excites me where I had a great career in the medical device field. Remember how unhappy I was because it was the same thing over and you.

[B]

Also had put in almost 20 years.

[A]

I mean but it felt like it's. But doing the same thing. And also the fact that the novelty aspect of the new aspect to the challenging portion of it was gone. I made good money, I had a great team and I could have done it. I wish I would had perspective then, like look at it. And I think advice to myself be like, hey, find novelty within what you're doing. Because there's a lot of people have jobs and careers that are like they feel stuck in and like they can't. They're not doing anything new. You can always do something new even within it. You just have to challenge yourself to find that something new or find an activity outside of it. But you know, I asked Haley, like she said when we were at the old house, that was only a year and a half. We were there when she worked with you. And then now we've been in this other house four years. She's like, it feels like the exact same amount of time because it's all new stuff.

[B]

Yeah, that's true.

[A]

You know, and I think that's one to me for a challenge in order for myself to feel and perceive time to go Slower because I do want to have these memories last longer. I want to have these ideas of what we're spending with the kids. It's either find a new thing with them. Yeah, find a new thing on your own. And so for me, my challenge for my resolution this year is going to be like, what's that new thing?

[B]

Okay, friends, a little mid show break. I have talked about Seed, who is the sponsor of this episode for a long time now, because it actually did something for me. I originally started taking seed when I was dealing with really stubborn cystic hormonal acne a few years back. It was awful. I didn't like the way it looked. It was super painful. And I was willing to really try anything under the sun. I was pretty desperate. And the more I got looking into how digestive health really does impact acne for most of us, I decided that's when I wanted to give seed a try. What surprised me was what happened next with my skin calming down with a slew of, you know, I tried up different skin products and whatnot. I was taking supplements as well. But truthfully, I think seed did a ton of improvements when it came to my skin. When I was taking it regularly. I started for acne, but I actually stayed because when I was super compliant and I took it regularly, I felt like my cramps around my period were gone. So again, started for the acne, stayed for literally having pain free cramps, which blew my mind. It also helped with bloating. I feel like I didn't bloat near as much on my period. And again, I didn't even realize that was like a huge issue that I was struggling with until I took seed and realized that I did not look so bloated or not as full anymore. So again, started for the skin, but I stayed for other things that really improved when taking seed. What seed actually is, is it's a daily synbiotic, meaning it's a probiotic and a prebiotic in one. It contains 24 scientifically studied strains that support things like digestive health, gut barrier integrity, skin health, and even your micronutrient synthesis. And unlike most probiotics that get destroyed in your gut acid before actually does anything, Seed uses a two part capsule designed to survive the digestion. So the strain actually reaches the part of your gut where it can actually do something for you. And that's why people actually feel a difference. And it's not just a hype. They also invest in clinical research, which is pretty unheard of for the supplement world. Seed tests their strains not just the finished bottle. So you know what you're taking is actually doing something. And I'm not alone because 92 of seed members recommend DS01 to a friend or family member, which is pretty wild. And I. I get why. Go ahead and get ahead of the new year with a routine that helps you now by going to seed.com jen and use the code 20gen for 20 off your first month. That is 20 off your first month of seeds. DS01 Daily [e-mail] Jen that's Jen with two N's. Code 20 Jen with two ends. So what are we gonna do? I actually have this idea.

[A]

So I'm not saying like, let's start a new.

[B]

You start playing board games with them at night.

[A]

I mean, I do that already with Berkeley.

[B]

We play Berkeley every day.

[A]

I play Bashang. Berkeley's good at mahjong.

[B]

Berkeley's gamer, very good at Masha's games. I know Vaughn is slipping. Yeah, he gets impatient with the games. And Viv loves to do like more crafty.

[A]

Well, she'll play. That's the thing is, I think it's a good thing to challenge.

[B]

I don't think we should commit to a board game every night because sometimes we're just not in the middle.

[A]

Then it becomes routine. So it's like, you know.

[B]

It's true. That's true.

[A]

So the point is this, like, do.

[B]

Like for me, we all play family tennis.

[A]

Well, that's not new for you.

[B]

It's new to have you guys around. Me?

[A]

No, it'd be fun.

[B]

Honey, we gotta get better if we're gonna play.

[A]

I want to take Vaughn to the gym with me. Right. I think those are things. Like, those are little things. But then it's for me, like, do. I'm not saying this literally because I'm not going to do this, but I'm like, maybe I start painting. Some people want to do that, right?

[B]

You're not a painter.

[A]

You don't know that. I do.

[B]

I've seen sketches.

[A]

They're maybe I. They're horrifically good.

[B]

They look like.

[A]

You know what Berkeley told me? She goes, they're so good. I love it. Because. Because they're my cartoon characters. I have a very specific art style.

[B]

Yes, you do. They all look the same.

[A]

Kinda.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a. There's a realm of similarity.

[B]

And you know what?

[A]

You know what? South park and. And the Simpsons, they got away with creating major IP off of one art style. So may going to start a new cartoon series.

[B]

You should have Been a voice actor. Don't do anything weird right now. I'm just take the compliment. Let's not stray off. But you should have.

[A]

Can I at least do my. My E80 my evil 1980s Santa Claus?

[B]

No, we're not going to burst.

[A]

These people wants to hear it. Don't you?

[B]

No. No one wants everyone. Literally no one.

[A]

You're asking, I think how funny this would be. What if s like if you. If Santa Claus says all the exact same things in the evil villain character of the 1980s like Skeletor. It changes everything.

[B]

Santa Claus.

[A]

Right. You better watch out. You better not cry. Well, s. Every 80s villain also sounded like an evil man. Grandma.

[B]

It's kind of true, actually.

[A]

Skeletor.

[B]

Okay, all right. We've heard enough. Okay, okay, okay. My point is, is there's a compliment with that. As much as I don't enjoy that you could have been a voice actor because you have so many weird.

[A]

I'd have to read lines though. That's the problem.

[B]

That's true. Okay.

[A]

Anyway. Well, maybe not. I just add.

[B]

So maybe I could do.

[A]

There's things I could be. I could find. As long as they let me ad lib everything, I'd be good at it. As long as I knew the general.

[B]

Never know what they're gonna.

[A]

As long as I knew the general.

[B]

He'S also a writer.

[A]

I could ad lib myself through a lot of things, which also. It's one of the reasons why I do decent job at public speaking is because I can ad lib pretty on what the subject is and I don't have to have a routine script. I don't memorize extremely. I have to do a lot of.

[B]

Okay, hold on. Let's rein it back in. So what is our new thing going to be?

[A]

What's your new thing? I'm asking you that.

[B]

Oh, what's mine?

[A]

Yeah. Well, if you.

[B]

I really have enjoyed cross stitching, so I wonder if I want.

[A]

All right, Nana.

[B]

That is rude. I'm offended.

[A]

I mean, we got wallpaper prints in our house now. We got thick. We're doing dark woods in our. Like you are.

[B]

I really do want to.

[A]

You are turning.

[B]

Oh, I've always wanted to be old. I think I really do enjoy it. What's funny is I'm such like. Is it a juxtaposition where two things kind of go against each other and one. Yeah, I'm very. I. I'm an old soul. You knew I was when you met me at 21.

[A]

2.

[B]

22. Sorry. One year does count. 22. I wanted to get married and get pregnant super quick. I wanted to be a young mom. I wanted to have the family. I've been like that from day one. In fact, I got married a little late. I wanted to meet the person in college to get married.

[A]

Like the day I gradu graduated brother accomplished that goal.

[B]

He did. I did not do it. So I actually wanted to. So I've always been that. However, I am a very motivated, driven person. I want to produce every day. There's very few days where I'm like, I'm doing nothing today. I'm not working. But then the thing is is I produce in other ways. Like I love busting through my house and like getting stuff done around my house. And so like I, I, they go against each other to. Whereas you think a grant I live a slow life that like being an elderly woman would entail like sitting by a fire, cross stitching and just having coffee and being very peaceful. And then I have another side where it's like my brain actually with the little adhd, it doesn't allow me to do that. Like I can't remember the time I sat during a day or like even a work day where I sat and watched television because I needed like a day years couldn't.

[A]

Yeah, that doesn't sound.

[B]

Could not tell you.

[A]

I going back to the days of being a kid, being home sick and you had it. We were forced. Like the only thing that was on TV when I was a kid would be soap operas or, or game shows. Yeah, it was awful.

[B]

I don't know. That sounds nice. See, I want to do these things.

[A]

Oh gosh. Like, but I didn't school.

[B]

Yeah. No, I want to do these things. But then when I do it, I last about 20 minutes and I'm like I'm bored. I have to move.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

I know but so like so picks so the thing.

[B]

So I need to pick a side. Am I going older? Am I staying motivated?

[A]

I mean there's a little bit of that. Your introvert, extrovert personality, you're an extroverted introvert.

[B]

Correct. I didn't know this until like five years ago.

[A]

What you are, you're very social and outgoing, but your safe spot is home, secure, quiet, chill. I think I'm just body.

[B]

I think I'm just starting to recognize these qualities about myself and I even don't like saying them out loud. But it's 100 the truth. I was talking to someone. It's like I can talk to anyone in the room. And when I do talk, my energy is up here because that's my personality. But would I rather be at home talking to no one? A thousand percent. I would rather not be talking and sitting next to the fire.

[A]

I think you get if it sounds bad. No, I. I think. I think there's part. I think you recharge. I think you need a recharge. And I. And I think you. I don't. I don't think you're a person. Like, I want to stay home and not talk to any. That. That is not you. I sounds. No, it may sound. But that you would get. Get bored and you would. Yeah, I. I think that's your recharge spot. And then when you want to recharge, you're like, I need a day. I don't want to go out. I just want to chill. And you're completely fine, like, missing out.

[B]

You're like, think of COVID Honey. I didn't leave the house for three months, and I was, like, really happy.

[A]

Were you?

[B]

I mean, I wasn't happy with, like, the state of the world. It was a very stressful time for us.

[A]

We did a lot of stuff. We were outside a lot. I mean, there's a lot of times during that thing I do.

[B]

So we say, like, not 100%.

[A]

I hear what you're saying.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I would challenge you in the standpoint. I think it's more of your recharge.

[B]

That's a good way to put it. Like, even at night, like, after we put the kids to bed, my butt sits on my side of the bed with my lamp on. And I'm like, Mike will be like, okay, what show are we watching? What are we doing? And I'm like, I need 15 minutes to sit on my phone and do nothing. Maybe check out on Amazon from a cart that I have full. Yeah, I'm not a big I don't doom scroll. I don't really. Probably because my work is incorporated, like, so much on my phone. I'll play a game. Like, one of the games on my phone. I just need 15 minutes. I haven't played one. It's been really busy since, like, October. So I literally have not opened an app, but, like, a game. But what I do like to play, I don't remember what they're called. I love good sorting. It's a wall of goods, and you have to sort them to the matches on the same shelf as quick as possible.

[A]

It's organizing and just dissecting your personality. Like, you enjoy organizing those games. Here's my game. Let's organize this.

[B]

That's my most favoritest game is you have a clock and you have to organize all the stuff. It's so good. There's another one called Match. I can't remember what it's called. And it literally. You would hate it. It's a basket that dumps out all these items and then you have to race against a clock to find the two and drag them to the bin. So it's like another.

[A]

So we're gonna.

[B]

How did I say that?

[A]

You like sorting and organizing your game.

[B]

And I like color Block jam. Which is more strategic. Puzzling because you have to figure out how to get all the blocks out of each other's way to clear the room. So I guess that's also a form of organizing.

[A]

Your games are organized. All right. So we can talk. We'll talk. We'll go back to our resolutions in a second. About like what?

[B]

I don't like.

[A]

Go ahead. As a kid.

[B]

What?

[A]

Like this time you're what? Like any New Year's. Times that were real vivid.

[B]

Yes, we've Talked about this. 2000 because everyone stocked up on canned goods and water. I remember wearing my limited two lime green matching sweatpants with furry vest, fleece vest and I had a white undershirt underneath it. Limited to. I'm so sad that that didn't stay around. It's just Limited too. Yeah. T o o. And it was the same company as the Limited so they made it for kids. But all their stuff was like cartoony and vivid neon colors.

[A]

My sister worked for the Limited gen. Oh really? And I remember she somehow got like stock in it and there would be like a one penny check that would be sent to the house and I, I For like years. What? Yeah, it was like a dividend that she got. It was as an employee, but it was literally like a penny. One penny. I'm not kidding.

[B]

She got robbed of her dividend or something.

[A]

She was a part time employee at a mall. So I'm not certain that you were entitled to more than a penny for years later.

[B]

I guess that's true. But why even do it then? Why send someone a penny? I feel like it's a waste of paper. It's worth more to send it all out.

[A]

Don't know.

[B]

Interesting. But I do remember that New Year's. New Year's was basically spent hanging out at the house. We didn't ever. I don't remember like anything crazy. My Aunt Molly would come over with my cousin and my uncle and it just you know, immediate family from what I remember. You're gonna sneeze?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Don't do it.

[A]

Well what am I gonna do? Tug on top of my mouth? Is that the thing?

[B]

Just sneeze?

[A]

It's a tickle.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

New Year's to me I have more vivid memories in New Year's being a young adult than I do as a kid. And then as I do as a. Well, I have good memories of when the kids were a little bit older. When the first time we we put on the Netflix special and told Vaughn it was midnight.

[B]

It was actually like 9pm I miss the days of being able to say at 8:45. Oh, those were the days.

[A]

He knows he caught on the next year. But it was like he said wait a second. We were like three minutes like it's midnight.

[B]

He was like seven. Like he was still very young.

[A]

Yeah, it was seven. It was. It was at the old house is when we were able to get away with it. So five, four, five years ago. But yeah. And we've tried that years afterwards it in. But I stayed up with him for the first time. It was me him in Berkeley at your parents house two years ago. And we actually stayed to midnight and everyone else went to bed.

[B]

I went to bed.

[A]

Me and you went to bed. Viv went to bed. Your parents went to bed. It was because they watched the 11 o'. Clock.

[B]

We're so lame.

[A]

And I was like, you know, I'll stay up with you guys. It was just us three.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sitting on the college watching. I remember that was a fun memory for me because it was just us three. But as a young adult I remember because I. I think that's when I was doing. I was more. You're more socially connected. And I remember going like skiing when I was in Colorado. I was military going skiing to the years we were up in the mountains over new years. And those are memories I have. But like that was probably was maybe because it mattered more. But as an.

[B]

You're also older.

[A]

Yeah. But when. When Vaughn it was a brand new newborn. We're like New Year's. Good night. Who cares 100. I still doesn't matter.

[B]

It sounds bad but I still kind of. It's like the least holiday for me. Like cool. Happy New Year. Yeah, bye.

[A]

The one thing is I do think.

[B]

You know, I'm an old lady.

[A]

Bring it back to. We're bringing back to the resolution thing. I do think. I think not that most. You know how many people actually make resolutions here. You know what the data is on that stats. Guess how many people?

[B]

I don't know. I don't do it. Resolutions are kind of silly. Just say they're a goal and then do it.

[A]

Well, yeah, but it's a goal for sure.

[B]

Make the goal and then just do it.

[A]

You.

[B]

Resolutions are like dreams. Sure, just do it.

[A]

I think the point is that I think it gives you a time to say, okay, I can set new goals and if you're gonna do it, why not make it? At the end you're to say as a goal. But it's like 40% of people set a goal and only like one third of the people actually stick to that goal. So it's not really that long.

[B]

I think of like, resolutions is like something you are fully in control and able to do versus like, oh, I would love to create a line of something. Obviously I can try my hardest to like make that happen. Right. But there's certain things that are beyond your control. You can't, you know, put them into. It's someone else's decision. Essentially. You see, I'm saying versus like, I'm going to exercise five days out of the week. Yep, you can do that, like starting now. You know what I'm saying? Like it's, you're very much in control of that.

[A]

Here's, here's the stats on it. Over 30 people make new Year's resolutions and pretty much everyone quits by February. And of the people that actually make a resolution, only 1 out of 10 people that, that say they're going to make a resolution. Stick to the resolution long term.

[B]

The strong survive. Wow. So I respect those 1 out of 10. I don't even think I'm in the 1 out of 10.

[A]

Here's why resolutions fail because people set them as vague, too big, too high, too big, or. And they're based on guilt. And if you make a resolution, it's like, I need to get in shape because I feel out of shape. You're doing out of guilt and you're not doing it because you're like, I want to be healthier.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How do you set a small goal? That's the reason why people fail and in order to set habits how. So what's the data on, on the amount of days to create a long term habit?

[B]

It's 30 days, right?

[A]

Wrong.

[B]

Three months.

[A]

Almost 66 days is what the data now is. And that's from the University of London or Cambridge or something like that that they quoted that. So 21 days is what the old data was, but it's really 66 days to create a long term habit. Like, do you know why?

[B]

I guess that.

[A]

So that means you have to get into March. So you have to do something until March. Till March makes sense. And then if you make it to March, you're more likely to have that as a long term routine.

[B]

I mean, that's how long you should try new supplements.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

To show up in your body. That's to do work.

[A]

So that's true.

[B]

You know, I. That's why I applied that, thought it was applicable.

[A]

Yep. So setting a small habit, what are you gonna do?

[B]

What's your I want to know resolution?

[A]

Well, that's so I want like. So there's two. There's two things.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Number one, short term. Let me wipe my nose. Seasonal allergies.

[B]

This is sponsored by. It should insert a medication.

[A]

So my two things of the year. So the small term, long term. Like, look at that. I want to do something new. I want to find a family dynamic new. Whether it's doing with the kids or just something new on my own. Oh, like painting and singing. I'm gonna make an album. I'm gonna get tough.

[B]

Please do that. I just want to talk.

[A]

I don't know why this is related.

[B]

Mike's in the studio. He's a newsroom.

[A]

I got something to ask you about something new you. You might be into because I read a box of something that came and I want to ask. Ask you about this. Did you order something called Monkey Hands?

[B]

It's for Dennis.

[A]

Do you know what it says on the label?

[B]

It's to make your racket.

[A]

Do you know what it says on the label? Like. Like what does it say? It says for pole dancing on the X on the like the snicker for what it is. No, I swear. I know. Maybe it is for tennis.

[B]

Your stepmom gave it to me. She had no idea what it was.

[A]

Legitimately. I was like, what. What is Jen doing this year?

[B]

No, I wish I had an audible laugh because I laughed so hard at that Monkey hands grip. Yeah, it's a grip. So it says gel. Hold on. Yeah, Monkey hands. Gel grip. Pole dance.

[A]

It does say pole dancing, right? It is on there.

[B]

Calisthenics, parkour, gymnastics, padel, tennis and more. Well, tennis is the last one, but I bought it. That's hilarious.

[A]

I saw that box and I was like, oh. I was thinking through the things.

[B]

Your shirt.

[A]

You're getting into some new stuff this year. Bad. That's gonna be great. So going back to what you asked me, the new thing, I want to try. I don't know. I am getting. I'm getting that. That back procedure. So I hurt my back this year and it's kind of put me out of my routine. That was bad. Yeah, you know, it's bad. I got. I had a herniated disc and sciatica and it was. Was not a pleasant year for me from a standpoint of my back pain. Back pain was. And I. And I empathize. Fortunately, one steroid shot pretty much kicked out the pain for me. And there are people that deal with this on a debilitative way. So if you have family members and people like. I empathize more than I've ever done my life. Because it wreck you. Yeah, it's. Your mood's bad. You're like. I remember being. You'd be like. It would just. I would get through the day just trying to be positive. I'd be like, okay, be in a good mood. And it's like the only time you're actually out of pain is when you're sitting, laying down. Like, that's.

[B]

Wait, is your resolution point is this.

[A]

No, I'm getting. I'm getting the. The regenerative stuff done Monday. Right. So if that, you know, that's hopefully then get me stepped again. I have a more confidence to get back into the gym. So I want to get back into that from a routine standpoint, which I know I can do and I want to do because that's that. That basis. The daily thing that I was doing last year up until July was a daily thing for me. It's super important. Made me feel good, made me more confident. It's just that daily thing. The endorphins are high, your dopamine's higher. All the stuff that you, like, gotta get into. So that's it. And I'm gonna start competing bodybuilding. No, you're not juicing.

[B]

You're so full jacked. You're so full of crack.

[A]

I crap.

[B]

You're so full of crack. It's a mix of cracking.

[A]

I am not gonna bodybuild.

[B]

No, I wouldn't let you.

[A]

Would you let me? No, I don't want to bodybuild.

[B]

I would make fun of you. No offense to anyone. What if I But for you. No, we're too busy.

[A]

We have to. No, we just said find something new. I just want to eat your reaction. I'm not gonna bodybuild.

[B]

Did I react the way you thought I would?

[A]

Yes. 100.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, don't do it. Just look like it, but don't honey.

[B]

I also selfishly, I kind of want you to paint because I want to walk in on you painting with the needle. I just want to see.

[A]

I just want to see what Bob Ross. I'm start streaming it. Happy accidents.

[B]

Please start painting.

[A]

Maybe it's my brother's thing and he's professional. I don't want to impede his career. He's by the way, plug for my brother John Todrick. Amazing artist. Yes. Go find stuff online. It is super, super talented artist. That's his profession. He's a professional artist. Who gets to do that.

[B]

I know.

[A]

What a cool career.

[B]

I know.

[A]

So look.

[B]

No, really. I want to.

[A]

Genetically it's in me. I just gotta like extract those genes to be able to make it turn into something there. My dad, my sister, everyone. So that's the one thing I want to do. So do that. Get back in the routine. And then the other thing is, I don't know what the new thing is yet. I wanted to find something new. I can't say that I've thought much about it because it's more that I've just kind of been thinking on this thing and reading the data. I heard this on another podcast about this. They. They equate it to. Which is really not research. There's not a lot of data to it.

[B]

But. Right.

[A]

Like from a metaphorical standpoint, like it kind of makes sense. They said that if you do. If you did the brain mapping of a person in a coma and a person that does daily routines, they look the same. So basically when you're in routine, you are in a coma.

[B]

You want to spice it up.

[A]

Right. But just that's not real.

[B]

Isn't it weird? Because I like to be in a routine in a way.

[A]

Well, routine creates safety.

[B]

Maybe that makes sense.

[A]

Routine, routine creates comfort. Routine is. Are all good. There's good things about routine, especially with your kids. For them to have it. But still having routine with something new.

[B]

That'S what makes them secure. Kids like crave routine.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. But at the same. But there's novelty in routine to them as well because they're still doing new stuff. So as an adult, if you only do the same thing over and over and over and over again. I think we're losing time essentially because losing time, we're losing what. What means it's God didn't intend us here to just do the exact same everything. Yeah. What difference are you making? What impact you having? So if that new is okay, I'm gonna start volunteering for charity. Then do that. Yeah, that news. I want to go play tennis and try a new sport. Go do that. If you're new, it's like, there's so many different things you can just do as new that are small goals. Like, going to play tennis once a week is a pretty small goal. It seems big. But, like, how did you start? How did you. Like, if somebody's listening right now, I'd be like, nobody's ever. You've never. You. You weren't a tennis athlete. You're.

[B]

I was a cheerleader.

[A]

Yeah. So how did you get into new? Somebody's like, well, I don't know.

[B]

So my friend Alicia went once a week, and I was like, I think I want to play tennis. Like, I need to do a hobby. I don't have any hobbies. That's what I started. And Viv was about to go into kindergarten, so I was like, I can do this one day a week. So when she told me there's a spot open, I said that a while ago. And then they didn't have any spots open in her little drill class. Apparently a spot opened up. I don't even know who it was. And she said I could join. I was like, okay, fine, I'll do it once a week if I can with work. But obviously, work comes first. That's where it started. I was pretty resistant to thinking I didn't have time to give. And then fast forward to two years and I'm. I would love to play five days a week. Like, I. If I don't do three or four, I get mad for the week. Like, that's my. Also because I'm leaning on. This is like, that's my workout. And you. Everyone should work out four days a week to some capacity. And so I feel like if I'm not lifting weights and I'm not doing other things, I have to lean on that for, like, cardio. And you do gain muscle, like in your arms and your legs from tennis, but in your core, I guess everywhere. But I definitely see a difference, like, in my body.

[A]

It's good when you find an inactivity. That's you. Yeah, you should work out. You should move. Our bodies are meant to move. We're meant to be active. We're meant to be healthy. Like, that's. Those are things. And if you find something, you find joy in it. It's a lot easier than being. Forcing yourself to go to gym and then. Hardest thing.

[B]

Oh, so much more fun than working out. Like, I. Every time I've been in a workout phase, it's because of you. Like saying, not you, not because of you. But what you said earlier, it makes me feel good about myself and I like it. And there's a pro to it. I've never been like, yeah, yeah, I want to get in the gym. I don't like working out, but I have all my life had some capacity of working out because I don't want to see what, you know, my body looks like when I don't like. And that's not like a certain way or what I'm saying. But I like, you know, to be a certain way. And so, like, I like to be healthy. I like to not be winded.

[A]

Well, doing to me, it's going to the gym. I like. So I worked out pretty hard. I was doing like a functional thing. I went to F45, and that's a gym you can go to and work out super hard or not work out hard.

[B]

How do we get on this gym?

[A]

But the point. Well, thing is, I also. One thing I liked about what that workout routine was is it was something different pretty much every day. You weren't doing the same workout. You came in and it was a whole routine, 45 minutes. But I would work out super hard.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I'm a mindset of if you do hard things early, then everything else is easier.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like if you go in and you do a really intense workout at tennis in the morning and you push yourself and you're sweating.

[B]

Not applicable to me, unfortunately, with just my Hashimoto's. If I work out really hard for me, drains for me.

[A]

Doing hard stuff makes other things easier. So work out hard, get yourself sweating, get yourself in a mindset. And then the rest of the day it's like, okay, I got this stressful thing. It's not that big of a deal because you've already done something hard that day. And. And it also keeps you out of the routine of just normality of over the.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So, yeah.

[B]

But you didn't ask me about my resolution.

[A]

I want to think because I was asking about how people get it. So the tennis thing is this. I guess the. The part is this. You just got to start.

[B]

My thing is, is we. We do all have time. It's just we can say that we apply our time to what we prioritize.

[A]

Do you what you said? And like, I'm at work, I don't have time to do it.

[B]

We do. And now with my work schedule, I have a very flexible work schedule because we are entrepreneurs and we have our own businesses. And so we do have someone who works a standard 9 to 6. Totally. I'm not being insensitive.

[A]

Let's. Let's. However, I'm gonna flip that on this thing.

[B]

I know both ways.

[A]

When I was with Abbott and.

[B]

And I know you had more time. I had more time.

[A]

Well, it's like I had that time. And as soon as my work was done and I was done for the day, especially when I was in the. In the senior levels of it, there wasn't much unless I was traveling, I was like, I'm done.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

I'm done turning my phone up. Yeah, I don't care. I'm like, you can contact me in the morning. The urgency of being an entrepreneur. Entrepreneur is here. I always potentially have fun. You always have something you can be doing, which creates flexibility. At the same time, kids go down.

[B]

It's like it all kind of evens out because entrepreneurs have very flexible jobs. But you're right. We're always on.

[A]

You're always working. You always have.

[B]

I mean, we have calls at 2am like, if an alarm goes off somewhere, like, it's nuts. And that happens pretty frequently. We've had it, especially in the past. And so anyway, my point is, is like, I'll even throw myself under the. Under the rug, under the bus here.

[A]

Throw myself. I'm not going to talk about them.

[B]

Sounds better than being run over by a bus. Maybe I'll say the wreck. But, like, something I've always wanted to do is read the Bible for a certain amount of time every single day. And I am not consistent with that. I don't do that. And that's a choice. I am prioritizing everything else I'm doing for that day than doing that. So my point is, is do I feel like I have extra time to sit down and read the Bible? Something that is so. I hate to say it, but, like, it's not like, super exciting for me if I'm gonna be real. And do I have time? Yes. Would something else have to give? Yes. But it's all about shifting what we're prioritizing in the season of our life. And everyone can say all day long, you don't have time. And it sounds so harsh, but, like, we all have time. We just have to assign it differently.

[A]

It's the. You're a thousand. I mean, 1,000%, if that's possible. To agree with you that much. I've agree with you ten times on that. That's a thousand times. It's true that time. You can always make an excuse to not have time or. You can always prioritize things differently.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it does come like there is some cost.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To other things. But it comes down the point of what's going to bring you joy and you fulfillment for you to be a better parent or brother, spouse or better things. Because that can combine into it if you're healthy.

[B]

I have one.

[A]

What's that? What's your resolution?

[B]

So I do hate resolutions and I don't typically make them.

[A]

What's your micro? What's your timing?

[B]

I set goals.

[A]

What's your tiny goal?

[B]

This isn't a tiny goal. It's going to sound like it, but it's a big one because it also involves you and you suck at this. And so it's. You're not going to lift me up and motivate me and put me in a good headspace to make this happen. I want to.

[A]

Well, thank you.

[B]

Well, I want to go. I want to go to bed earlier and we go to bed together. You want to stay up forever.

[A]

And so, I mean, that's. There's all. I mean, I don't. Every person needs a little bit different amount of sleep. I don't.

[B]

I need more than I do. Fool are you talking about? You get so tired and you want to stay up. You're like one more like a show or whatever. And trust me, I want to stay up forever too. It's like our time that we have.

[A]

Interesting goal.

[B]

I would love to be in bed by 10.

[A]

I. Sure. Okay.

[B]

See, you're not gonna lift me up and you're not gonna support me in this. And so I'm doing it by myself.

[A]

I like going to bed by myself.

[B]

Yeah. And then I'm going to bed by myself every night. And I don't want to do that.

[A]

That's. Yeah. I'm gonna go with just going to bed together.

[B]

We already do that. Sure.

[A]

Thanks. Stick with that.

[B]

We already do that. Even if, like, you're playing video games. I'll come in at 11:45 and I'm like, it's bedtime, like a nagging troll wife. Because I don't want to go to bed by myself. We already do that. I just said let's do it a little earlier because it's healthier. Mike, you're getting. You're not getting younger.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

You need sleep.

[A]

I. I hear where you're coming from. I have.

[B]

I'm sick. I have diseases. Let's.

[A]

Let's have a goal that's not just sleeping related. Like what. What goal?

[B]

Is a good goal.

[A]

It's an interesting goal.

[B]

Whatever. You can't tell me my goals aren't good. It's not a bad goal.

[A]

Here's the thing. It's just. Look, if you go into bed earlier and you're getting up earlier to do something with it. Sure, but we're not getting up any earlier, just sleeping more.

[B]

We can't. We don't sleep enough as it is. We need to add more sleep, not take it away.

[A]

Get a solid seven hours of sleep a night. That's maybe eight would be better. Yeah.

[B]

We don't get seven. If we go to bed at 12 to 12:30, we're getting up at 6:15.

[A]

Really? I'd say three days a week we're going bed after 11 o'.

[B]

Clock.

[A]

Now, we've been in bed very regularly between 10 and 11 o' clock recently.

[B]

But honey, you don't fall asleep like 11:52. That's essentially midnight. We're not getting seven hours. You're lying.

[A]

11:52, you're lying. You're just sitting there staring at me until I fall asleep.

[B]

No, because I know when I fall asleep and you're still tickling my back, which means you're falling asleep.

[A]

Sometimes I'm asleep while I'm in TikTok. I have this autonomic response.

[B]

A liar. You are the worst.

[A]

I'm not lying. Sometimes I'm near an eminel.

[B]

This. We were watching Stranger Things last night. I'm wrapping presents. Mike could not be bothered wrapping presents. He's on the couch. We're watching Stranger Things. This. I'm watching this loser doze off seven times. It's 10:22. Your body needs more.

[A]

Listen, here's the problem.

[B]

I'm bringing a psychiatrist on here. We're going to talk about.

[A]

I'm going to say this about.

[B]

Is that a psychiatrist.

[A]

Here's an interesting thing. I will fall asleep reading or watching tv. The second I turn it off, my brain starts working. It's like I. It's almost like when they're on the couch. I got up and I turned off and I'm like in bed and I'm just like thinking about the day, planning the day tomorrow. So I gotta stop. I know.

[B]

Take beam again.

[A]

No, I do this thing where I have to count and I'll challenge it, but it actually works. I have to consciously count backwards from 10,000. And it's counting backwards because you, you.

[B]

Like you're working way too hard.

[A]

It's. The point is because the only thing you're focusing on is Something very routine so your brain doesn't go down a rabbit hole of thinking about something. It does work, I'm telling you. It's about the only thing that I consistently say if I'm.

[B]

Then why don't we put a TV show on at 10 and you'll be out by 10 10.

[A]

Because as soon as I turn it.

[B]

Off, I'll turn it off, and I won't wake you up.

[A]

As soon as it turns. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

I'll tuck you in.

[A]

Oh, it's a sweet baby.

[B]

Sweet man baby.

[A]

I'd rather watch TV if I'm on the phone watching your thing, but I don't want to have. I don't want to get the routine of, like, watching tv.

[B]

Yeah. Why would he just doze off quietly to get more sleep and not have to wake up. That makes no sense. I'd rather fall asleep by Jen and then have to count backwards from 10,000.

[A]

I will say I got. I got business goals that are. Are there. Which we can talk. You know, I talk about that later.

[B]

I don't want to talk you.

[A]

I know, but I'm saying, like, all right, what other goal would you have? Anything else besides sleeping more?

[B]

I think that's really. The more I speak, the more I realize I really am an old soul.

[A]

I want to sleep more. I want to sleep more. I want to do less.

[B]

All right, so what else do I want to do? I want to. There's, like, little things. But see, this is the thing. I feel like I'm in a pretty good groove right now. I feel like I probably should take a lunch hour every day. But then again, I don't want to do that because the kids get home and my workday gets cut short. So in my mind, math. Yep. I power through, and then I have an earlier day than, like, a typical 9 to 5 because I didn't take a lunch. So do you see what I'm saying? I have little things that I think would be healthier, per se, but it just doesn't work with where I'm at in life with the kids and whatnot.

[A]

See, I wrote down. I wrote down a few stupid. I wrote down a few gems. Can I read them to you?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Kids don't experience time slower. They just experience more firsts. We don't need a bigger life for our families. We. We need a more memorable one.

[B]

1000%.

[A]

You don't need huge vacations to create memories. You just need to do something new.

[B]

Yeah, I agree with that. And we do take a lot of Vacations. But ours are also pretty routine. Like people can't create memory.

[A]

Yeah, it's. You're creating and that's. It's doing something new with your family. Like Gavin. Simple things. Go to skate room together if you haven't done one.

[B]

You know what? We should go to Disney again and they'll have a new ride open.

[A]

That's why I. So it's funny.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

We literally had a discussion. When some may call it an argument. I called it a discussion about you going to Universal in the car right over here. Because I wanted. I like doing some new things where it's like when we go to Florida next year, let's go to Universal.

[B]

Shut up.

[A]

Because doing something new, which is funny.

[B]

Not as good as Disney World.

[A]

I. I will agree with that. But the new part is apparently really nice. I'd like to try the new one, but I have a really. I have more memories when we did that last minute Universal trip than I do from two Disney's ago. Because it was new.

[B]

Different.

[A]

It was different.

[B]

I don't agree with you, but I.

[A]

See you say that you made that. But I do if you do. If you want a life, feel fuller, add novelty, not pressure. Do new things. That's a fuller life.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

The goal shouldn't be to do more this year. It's to remember more.

[B]

Oh, I'm screwed. I have a horrible memory.

[A]

Well, that's.

[B]

But maybe if we do new things.

[A]

Time'S going to fly by no matter what memories are. What Slow. It slows it down. Okay. Right.

[B]

Sleep with memories. Sleep. Thank you, Haley. Sleep does help with memory.

[A]

Consistency is going to matter more than intensity. Right. You got to do. Do more. Like if you're working out, like, be consistent. Do your best.

[B]

You know what I think?

[A]

Try to be intentional for this year. It's like intentionality is the right word for this.

[B]

Do you know what I think we're good at? But really. Because of me. But I'll put you in. You can have some.

[A]

All right. Humble. But I think, listen, I'm the most humble person in the world. Everyone tells me so.

[B]

Listen, listen. This is what I'm saying. I think we're pretty dang good as of like the past few years of like making really big trips out of very like not small trips, but like trips that weren't. We didn't expect like big things out of like spring break trip. We last minute planned like in two days to go to Branson. And we were like. Both you and I were like, okay, this is probably not gonna be fun. We're gonna hype this up. So fun. The kids had so much fun. Where else did we go? Where we were like, oh, Boston. I had to go to Boston to do a photo shoot for Beam. And I'm like, you know what? I planned the trip in three days. I'm like, let's go to Boston and, like, do get my work stuff out of the first day. Get it done, and then let's take the kids to Boston and then let's go see two different states that we've never seen. I planned that trip in the plane trying to figure out what I was going to do in Vermont.

[A]

And by the way, the kids still.

[B]

Talk about it and ask when they're going to go back to.

[A]

Anyone listening is from Vermont, You.

[B]

That is beautiful state.

[A]

Georgia state.

[B]

My point is, is literally pick a place. Pick a city or a state. We haven't been. I told you. I really would love to, like, give the gift to our kids of taking them to all 50 states at some point just to say we've done it and to, like, see all different parts of the country. Yes, we'd love to take our kids to Europe. It's just I want the kids to be able to remember the trip at Europe. So I think, like, one more year and we'll go. But you don't have to go to Europe. You can go to one. I want to go to Montana.

[A]

Right. Well, that's the thing is it's not just trips, right? It's about making.

[B]

No, that's true.

[A]

If you're going to make memories, it's doing generally a different restaurant. Yeah. There you go. Get out.

[B]

Seriously, get out. Go to somewhere like, okay, your whole.

[A]

Family come to Armor Brewery. If you haven't been to. From the Texas, it's great. Come visit. Come visit.

[B]

Art, you said no drips. Let's say you have, like, a really picky family. Like, one day be like, no, we're. We're trying Thai food. We're going to Thai. Now. You might be asking for a lot of, like, arguments and. But you know what? You'll never forget it. And that's what we're talking about here.

[A]

What's the. What's the. There's the AGR song.

[B]

Which one? There's 100 different stories. Makes me interesting at parties.

[A]

Yeah. Wait, 100 bad days makes a under good stories.

[B]

Stories. Makes it interesting at parties.

[A]

It's funny. It's like sometimes. Yeah. So the point is not a bad day, but a bad day is interesting as a Kid, you look back. So Army, Navy game happened last week. Dang. Army lost. Frustrating. But I had a whole bunch of buddies from West Point that came up, and we were talking. We're chatting. It was a friend of mine that him and I did judo together, and I hadn't seen him in 15 years. And he came to the brewery. Was fun. It was all these stories of catching up. And it's like you're always talking about the stupid stuff you did.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Things that you like, somebody, your knucklehead. You did this. And it's all these things you start laughing about these moments, and it creates these memories where you have strong memories of like. Like, especially as, you know, young, young, dumb kid in college where you're doing dumb stuff. It does. There's a lot of fun that you've had that creates those memories and those stories. Not saying a bad day. You know, nobody wants bad days. But it does make interesting things sometimes with time.

[B]

It's funny how a really bad day can be humorous where you just shake your head and you're like, oh, my gosh, I cannot believe that happened. There are some times where that happens. We.

[A]

Let's not hope for bad days.

[B]

No, I don't want to hope for bad days. We've reached. We've reached our time limit on this.

[A]

Yeah, we did.

[B]

But I feel like we got a lot accomplished. I feel like we both know what we kind of want to do as far as, like, goals. Not so much resolutions.

[A]

Yep. Well, let's. Let's hold. And this is one more note I had here.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

If you want to make a resolution, you had it to be accountable, because accountability turns into intentionality, and it turns into action. That turns in. That turns out success, literally is what I wrote. Accountability turns intention into action. That's what I wrote.

[B]

Success.

[A]

It's a legitimately.

[B]

And then you're gonna feel good about yourself.

[A]

So it's. The thing is, is when. If you have a. A significant friend, a, you know, husband, wife, whatever it is, help them hold you accountable.

[B]

I was about to say, I think half the battle is having. If you're, like, have someone in your life, if you're not married, if you have a friend, if you have a parent, just someone to constantly check in and be like, how you doing on that? Like, holding you accountable and lifting you little. Like, going to sleep earlier.

[A]

Make little goals like going to sleep sustainable. Sure. Going to sleep earlier, going golfing once a week.

[B]

Do you have time to do that? You know what you do? Oh, well, this is the you do. We just have to shift our priority.

[A]

Here's the thing is, I gotta shift. Like, that's thing is, if I'm doing work on the golf course, that's easy to do.

[B]

That's a stretch.

[A]

Hey, there are a lot of guys that do business deals on the golf course like crazy.

[B]

I mean, once a week is a lot, Mike. It's different than playing an hour and a half of tennis three days a week.

[A]

Well, if you go to Crush Golf, you can get done in a round in four hours. If you're doing 18 holes.

[B]

Yeah, take half day three.

[A]

You have to go three hours. If you're really rocking by your, like, if you have to go by yourself and like, crush through a course. And so I don't need.

[B]

So you're gonna crush some courses in 2026?

[A]

I want it. Yeah. Look, I want to get. I want to get my score. I got small goals. I want to get my score into the 80s. That's where I want to be consistent. That's not. That's attainable. Right.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

It's not great golf, but I can do it.

[B]

I'm excited about going to 2020.

[A]

But hold each other accountable. Heck yeah, dude. It's awesome. And also, hey, this podcast was something new for us this year. That was fun. Yeah, well, we knew, but it brought it back.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is when I say I love these podcasts for us personally, because we get to chat. It's like, fun.

[B]

I actually, generally, we never chat at home.

[A]

It's just here the only. We actually hold our conversations once a week to this moment.

[B]

We never talk at home, so we have something to talk about here.

[A]

We'll be like, hey, I want to bring something. She's like, hold it to podcast. Don't talk about this right now. That's fun. No, I'm excited for 26, babe. Thanks for doing this. This life with me. And this is fun. And.

[B]

And thank you all for listening. Another episode. The last Episode. Episode of 2025. Thank you so much. For those who have been listening to the podcast regular. Since we've kind of brought it back to life, this is something we do enjoy and love doing together. And we are just so excited that you guys have been excited about that. So thanks for sharing it. Thanks for. Yeah. Tuning in every other week. Now we have a new episode, and as always, if you like it, we would love a review on Apple Podcast. Thank you so much for that. If you have a question or a comment, you can email you. Me and my Mike podcast. Gmail.com it's all spelled out. You, me and Mike podcast gmail.com and we have someone who is watching those. And so we'll kind of compile a good little episode with everyone's kind of thoughts involved. If you want to leave, like, audio recording and a voice recording and tell us something, feel free to do that. But happy New Year.

[A]

Happy New Year's.

[B]

To 20. 26.

[A]

26.

[B]

Bye, guys.

[A]

Chink clears Chink.

[B]

Okay, cheers. Cheers.

[A]

2016.