Ep. 215: 90's Nostalgia

Summary

Podcast Summary: You, Me & Mike – Ep. 215: 90's Nostalgia

Podcast: You, Me & Mike
Hosts: Jenn Todryk & Mike Todryk
Release Date: January 28, 2026
Theme: A laugh-out-loud, affectionate exploration of 80's and 90's nostalgia, contrasting generational childhood memories through the lens of a married couple with a 12-year age gap.

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Episode Overview

Jenn and Mike embark on a playful, spontaneous trip down memory lane, reminiscing about their respective childhoods and the cultural touchstones of the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. Drawing on their 12-year age difference, they compare and contrast everything from pizza rewards and video game habits to TV theme songs and evolving technology. The episode is filled with lighthearted banter, rapid-fire questions, and reflections on how swiftly technology and popular culture shifted across a single generation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Generational Differences and Growing Up (02:14–07:14)

• Establishing the Age Gap:
  • Jenn born in 1988, childhood in late 90s/early 2000s
  • Mike born in 1976, childhood in early/mid-80s
  • “So those, if you just popped ninja are 12 years apart.” – Mike (02:34)
• Impact on Perspective:
  • Comparing their reminiscing offers listeners a two-decade sweep of nostalgia.
  • The audience gets parallel experiences of pop culture, school, and family through vastly different lenses.

2. Pizza Hut & ‘BOOK IT!’ (03:20–06:54)

• Mike recounts the allure of Pizza Hut’s ‘BOOK IT!’ program:
  • The joy of earning personal pan pizzas through reading, and how it became a rare, special bonding moment with his mom.
  • “I remember the smell. And that's when Pizza Hut was like, the OG Greatest place. You had the red cups… a salad bar… stained glass… lights.” – Mike (05:09)
• Jenn shares her more fleeting memories of eating inside Pizza Hut, reflecting generational differences in dining out.

3. Y2K and Memory Formation (06:55–09:35)

• Jenn describes the vivid memory of the Y2K moment as a sixth-grader:
  • The anxiety, hype, and her bright lime green Limited Too outfit.
  • “I was wearing a limited to lime green sweatsuit… windbreaker, lime green pants… white long sleeve underneath.” – Jenn (07:21)
• Discussion on ‘false memories’:
  • How photos and stories shape what we think we remember.
  • “It's funny how… you see yourself in third person, it's probably an amalgamation of seeing the pictures, family stories… we create these… embellished memories.” – Mike (09:03)

4. Changing Technology: Cable, DVR, and AIM (10:14–12:55)

• Mike’s TV Childhood vs. Jenn’s:
  • Jenn: Had Disney Channel and Nickelodeon by the late 90s; used DVR from age 10.
  • Mike: Had only basic channels as a kid; for him, missing a primetime Charlie Brown special meant truly missing out.
• First experiences with recording TV (DVR, TiVo):
  • “DVRs first appeared in early 1999. So I was 10.” – Jenn (11:51)
• Nostalgic “AIM sounds”:
  • The iconic door open/close of AOL Instant Messenger triggers core memories for Jenn:
  • “When I heard it, it was like this crazy like zoom back into like… excitement… I listened to it like four times just to like get that high again.” – Jenn (12:41)

5. Social Media: From MySpace to Facebook (13:02–18:03)

• Generational experience with social media:
  • Jenn reflects on the innocence and danger of MySpace:
    • “There was a time where I almost, like, said I was dating a guy in, like, Oregon or something.… It probably was a man named Stan who was 52.” – Jenn (14:33)
  • Mike was older when MySpace hit, and recalls its “wild west” era.
• How Facebook changed the game:
  • Facebook's college-only restrictions and how Messenger “saved” their budding romance (17:12)
  • “Shout out to Facebook. They kind of… saved our opportunity, our relationship.” – Mike (17:12)
  • “I would say saved us” – Jenn

6. Video Game Nostalgia (18:10–24:42)

• GoldenEye (N64):

  • Jenn: Brothers played incessantly, she hid as a ‘camper’.
  • Mike imitates the game’s music, earning laughs.
  • “I call you Coleman. Why? Coleman Tents. You know, being camping equipment.” – Mike (19:38)

• Mario and NES:

  • Both reminisce about Mario Kart and Super Mario Brothers—the NES era and the struggle of cartridge blowing.
  • Mike: “I could run that game… with my eyes closed back as a kid on the first level. I knew based on the sound.” (23:30)

• Game rentals and Blockbuster:

  • Both recall the ritual of weekend game and movie rentals; Jenn had a mom-and-pop video shop due to rural upbringing.

7. The Millennial Transition Era (26:13–29:17)

• Analog to digital:
  • Jenn reflects on being the “middle millennial” and experiencing everything from landlines and VHS to streaming and the internet.
  • “We lived through those shifts… formative years, we did not have internet… so we really… had both experiences.” – Jenn (27:28)
• Mike recalls the first time he encountered the internet:
  • “Internet didn’t even exist when I was a kid… but my college was 100% when all the internet just… exploded.” (27:49–28:33)

8. Rapid Fire Nostalgia & TV/Pop Culture (33:23–45:39)

• Comfort Shows:
  • Jenn: Full House, Degrassi, SpongeBob, Rugrats (“SpongeBob SquarePants still holds up. The best.” – Jenn, 34:46)
  • Mike: Transformers, G.I. Joe, Voltron, Knight Rider
• Nostalgic Theme Songs:
  • Both agree theme songs (cartoons, sitcoms) trigger intense nostalgia.
  • Mike sings a snippet of the Transformers theme.
• Rise of Child Stars:
  • Discussion on child exploitation in TV from the 90s to today, referencing the “Nickelodeon/Disney boom.”

9. Nostalgic Trends and Fads (42:11–43:59)

• Which trend would you bring back?

  • Jenn: “Blow up furniture. That's so fun.”
  • Mike: “I just wish we could bring back Saturday morning cartoons.”

• First celebrity crushes:

  • Jenn: No big fangirling tendencies, but mentions Colin Farrell, Spice Girls merchandise.
  • Mike: Jenny McCarthy on MTV.

• Songs that bring you back:

  • Jenn: “Wannabe” by Spice Girls, cartoon theme songs.
  • Mike: Theme songs from his childhood cartoons, Stone Temple Pilots for high school years.

10. Hypotheticals & Listener Questions (46:03–48:04)

• If you could live in a TV/movie universe:
  • Mike: “Heck yeah. Star Wars. You're in the past, but in the future at the same time… science fantasy.” (46:25)
  • Jenn: “The Sims 4! I want to live in the Sims world.”
• If you could erase a random fact from everyone's memory:
  • Jenn humorously recounts farting in 7th-grade math class:
    • “It still haunts me… it was on the plastic chair, so it just, like, reverberated.” (48:04)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On golden-era Pizza Hut:
  • “That was when the amazing personal pans came out. I remember the smell. And that's when Pizza Hut was like, the OG Greatest place.” – Mike (05:09)
• On missing TV specials:
  • “If you missed it, you missed it… you only did it once a year.” – Mike (11:40)
• On AOL Instant Messenger nostalgia:
  • “When I heard it… like this crazy zoom back… almost like excitement.” – Jenn (12:41)
• On MySpace dangers:
  • “It probably was a man named Stan who was 52.” – Jenn (14:33)
• On generational nostalgia:
  • “My generation was smack in the middle of learning how to pivot.” – Jenn (29:11)
• On childhood comfort shows:
  • “Full House holds up. All right. 100.” – Jenn (33:38)
  • “Transformers, G.I. Joe, Voltron… So good.” – Mike (35:03)
• On trends to revive:
  • “Blow up furniture. That's so fun… makes me all warm and fuzzy.” – Jenn (42:11)
  • “Saturday morning cartoons… cut it down so you actually look forward to it.” – Mike (42:30)
• Embarrassing memory to erase:
  • “I farted in math class in seventh grade, and it still haunts me. It was on the plastic chair, so it just… reverberated.” – Jenn (48:04)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction and opening banter: 00:00–02:14
• Establishing the nostalgia theme: 02:14–03:20
• Pizza Hut BOOK IT!/childhood rewards: 03:20–06:54
• Y2K stories and memory talk: 06:55–09:35
• Cable/DVR/AIM nostalgia: 10:14–12:55
• Social media evolution/MySpace/Facebook: 13:02–18:03
• Video games, rentals, Blockbuster: 18:10–24:42
• Millennial transition to digital: 26:13–29:17
• Rapid-fire nostalgia/pop culture: 33:23–45:39
• Listener questions & hypotheticals: 46:03–48:04

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Tone and Style

The episode is full of quick back-and-forth humor, playful jabs, and warm, honest storytelling. Mike and Jenn’s dynamic is natural and fun, with Jenn’s sharp memory and self-deprecating asides balancing Mike’s enthusiastic deep-dives and dad jokes. Their affection for each other—and their respective “eras”—makes the nostalgia genuinely endearing and inclusive, as well as relatable for listeners across a wide range of ages.

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Summary

You, Me & Mike’s “90’s Nostalgia” episode bridges the gap between 80s and 2000s childhoods with laughter, humility, and a treasure trove of pop culture references. Whether you’re team cartridge-blowing NES or team SpongeBob and MySpace, this episode captures the joy (and occasional cringe) of growing up just before everything became instant, digital, and on-demand. A must-listen for anyone who’s loved Friday pizza nights, missed a favorite TV special, or still remembers their AIM away message.

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Notable Rapid-Fire Questions:

• What 90s trend would you bring back?
• Who was your first celebrity crush?
• If you could live in a TV/movie universe, which would you choose?
• What childhood song or theme triggers instant nostalgia?

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Transcript

[A]

Good afternoon.

[B]

It's kind of morning. It's 1206.

[A]

That's after.

[B]

Technically, I guess very technically it's afternoon that I always say. Good morning.

[A]

That is the official afternoon is after 12, so good afternoon. I got a joke.

[B]

Fine. Say it.

[A]

I'm like, actually, I have two. I'll just. I'll say just one.

[B]

Pick your best.

[A]

I don't know if it's good use best. It's actually. Why the Escare Coke in an award?

[B]

Don't tell me.

[A]

Come on. This is a good one. Hold on.

[B]

Why did the Scarecrow get an award?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Because he's outstanding in the field.

[B]

That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's actually really good.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Where'd you hear it? You didn't make that up.

[A]

Yeah, I just make jokes all the time.

[B]

No, you don't.

[A]

I write jokes. One of my pastimes now. You haven't seen me at my office. Just writing jokes now. That's what I do. I'm going on stand up tour.

[B]

What?

[A]

You heard it here first.

[B]

So there's this trend, and I don't think you'd do it because then you'd be like, no, I look bad or sound bad. But it's a trend of trying to see if we have a hidden talent.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And everyone just tries to sing and everyone's horrible and everyone's like, don't quit your day job.

[A]

Can sing. You could actually sing, though. That's not fair.

[B]

Well, I wouldn't do it. I would put you with other people.

[A]

Yeah. I can sing, though. Once I find my tone. I'd have to get my. My Can I have my earpiece in so I have a monitor.

[B]

You find your tone. Yeah. You're gonna be looking for a long time.

[A]

Like this. See this? See, you can hear it. It's there.

[B]

But what note is that? Like, what are we.

[A]

It's a D minor. This? Yeah. That's demons.

[B]

Listen to me.

[A]

Listen to me sing. Okay, so what are we talking about today? I mean, I know. I'm just curious. I was sure they want to find out.

[B]

Okay, so this is a. Another mic LED episode Skablam, which tend to be the most random of the episodes, but I'm actually kind of excited about this.

[A]

And it's not conspiracies.

[B]

It's not. Thank goodness.

[A]

So good.

[B]

We were thinking I'm gonna turn the.

[A]

Whole podcast into conspiracy podcast.

[B]

Have fun making your own podcast.

[A]

Done. We'll do it.

[B]

You can't use this name.

[A]

It's just Mike. It's just you and Mike.

[B]

Mike.

[A]

It's just you and Mike. That's it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's all about nostalgia and our childhoods and like pop culture from that time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But what's kind of cool is because of our age. Significant age gap.

[A]

That's significant.

[B]

The audience is going to get two completely different decades.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so that's kind of nice.

[A]

So those. If you just popped ninja are 12 years apart.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I. She. She was 22 when we met, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It wasn't weird. It wasn't super weird.

[B]

Wasn't that don't come for me.

[A]

Yeah, don't come. It was good. I was 22. We got married when she was 23. So. Yeah. Yeah. But we have. We have a little different perspective on some of the things. Like, we both tons. I mean, I would say.

[B]

Hold on, let's back up. When was your birth year?

[A]

76.

[B]

So do you consider your childhood like late 70s or early 80s? Early 80s.

[A]

80S, yeah. 80s. I don't like. I don't remember anything from the 70s. I mean, a little. I mean, I maybe glimpses of memories, but I don't. Like, the only president I remember as a kid was Reagan or. Right, that was Carter was president when I was. When I was born. Reagan was 80. But I remember the whole like all the 80s. That's what my grade school time like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know. You know things like book it and when that came out from. From Pizza Hut, you. That was like. That was. That started when I was a kid.

[B]

I didn't do much of that. Wasn't that you had to read the books to get the pizza.

[A]

What a good thing. I think I got it like one time, man. You want to talk about motivating a kid who liked to eat pizza and.

[B]

Hold on, Pause.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I know you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Better than arguably anyone except maybe your mother. There's no way you read that book. You skimmed it and you got no visa. No, I just cheated.

[A]

No, dude, you. You know, I read. I read all the time.

[B]

That's a new thing.

[A]

That's not a new thing.

[B]

I even said like a year ago, before the.

[A]

I said that.

[B]

That's so spitty. I said like a year ago. I've never seen you read a book. And then you asked for a Kindle for Christmas. And I will say you have read more. More. I haven't seen you read in a hot minute, though.

[A]

Oh, I finished that series up, so I need to find a new one. So it's a little bit of like, reprieve and pause. And plus, there were some shows I wanted to catch up on. So there's a little bit of that because I just read at night now. That's where I would usually just read till I fall asleep. But when the. But no, as a kid, I read a lot. I mean, and I always read. But I read. You know what I'm reading? I'm reading a lot of articles and. And facts and things like that. Like, that's what. What I kind of absorb myself in science articles and things that you would drive.

[B]

Like science fantasy?

[A]

No, science fantasy. It's my favorite genre. Science fantasy.

[B]

I'll never get over that. I'm never gonna live it down.

[A]

No, but I would read a lot as a kid and. But I will say I. I often would find. I'd go to the library because it wasn't about. It was like, the number. It was a full book, but they didn't know it. Didn't care if it was like a book that was like 10 pages long.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So I. I read a book. Read a book.

[B]

I know.

[A]

That's what I'm crushing.

[B]

So. Yeah, you had a loophole. So. So I was.

[A]

Loopholes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I found my.

[B]

I know you.

[A]

And a personal pan pizza. Come on. As a Pizza Hut. Yeah, it was pizza. That was when the amazing personal pans came out.

[B]

Do you know what?

[A]

I remember the smell. And that's when Pizza Hut was like, the OG Greatest place. You had the red cups that you'd go in. They had two video games. They had a salad bar when you. I mean, that was a stained glass. You know, lights that were right there.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Hand up.

[B]

I'm trying not to interrupt you, but before you fly by this topic, I want to interject.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I remember those lights. I don't remember eating inside of Pizza Hut too often. I have, like, one memory of a Pizza Hut. You sat down, you got the red cups. You ordered at the thing, right? Yeah, but I remember getting, like, a salad bar.

[A]

Yeah, salads were huge. It was the unlimited salad bar. My mom would.

[B]

Oh, your mom would love it.

[A]

My mom loved it. So that's why she would take us to pizza. And then if I had the free pizza and we came from, like, you know, lower middle class, and it was. We didn't go out to eat a lot. So when we had the free thing, it was like. Yes. And it was something my mom would do with just me, so the girls wouldn't go if I had it. She would take me if they were doing something Else. And it's, you know, the youngest of my mom's kids. So like when I, it was always kind of fun. I had a lot. Actually do have strong memories of just me and my mom going where I probably, you know, probably a little bit like, you know, Vaughn, where it's like when you have your mind on something, you ask and you keep asking and asking and asking until it turns into actuality.

[B]

Yeah. You manifest it in the most amazing way.

[A]

Popular wasn't annoying, but it's like, hey, it's free, it's free.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, if our kids got a free thing, like, we gotta go.

[B]

It's free, it's free.

[A]

You gotta go, it's free.

[B]

Yeah. So she gets a tradition because it's free. That would be fun. I'd be like, we've literally never gone there. What are you talking about?

[A]

But he's, you know what? That's. I, I for Vaughn. I love the fact that he wants to do stuff like that. It's like he wants to be involved with things. And it's awesome that we have like, sometimes you need that motivation because you get stuck into things. It's good. It's. I mean, I have no issue with that. I love it. Okay. But yeah, look it. But so good was that.

[B]

So you did early 80s.

[A]

Early 80s.

[B]

Okay, so you're born in 76. I was born in 88. And I actually consider more of my childhood late 90s probably because that's like when you turn around 10. So that's when I remember like the most consistent. Like I remember Y2K. I was in sixth grade. I was 12.

[A]

I was in the Army.

[B]

I was 12 or 11. I was 11 or 12. And I remember doing a big New Year's Eve party. What's crazy is this isn't like something I'm specifically. This isn't normal for you, for me to remember what I was wearing. It's weird. I don't know why. Maybe because it was such a hyped up moment of like, the power is going to crash. My parents got a ton of water bottles and canned good items because we weren't going to have any kind of civilization after Y2K happened. And so maybe that's why I remember. But I remember what I was wearing. I was wearing a limited to lime green sweatsuit. This is like windbreaker, lime green pants. It was a lime green same color furry vest with like a mock turtleneck. And then it was sleeveless and then I was wearing like a white long sleeve underneath it.

[A]

And we can you bring that back.

[B]

I mean, I'm sure I have a picture of it, but, like, that's. And I was at home and we had family over and we watched the ball drop. And then I just remember the anticipation of, like, when the ball drops. Everyone's like. And nothing happened.

[A]

And life went on.

[B]

Nothing happened. It was so weird. So maybe because that was such a big, like, not. My parents definitely were not, like, the world's gonna end, but they were probably leaned on. Well, in case something does happen, we should have water and some food. That was, like, the extent of it. But I remember thinking, learning in school, they didn't know if, like, the numbers were gonna crash or, like, the computer. So maybe that's why I remember.

[A]

Whatever. I don't think there's anything wrong with a little bit of prep. No, I think it's kind of smart. You should have some reserve food and reserve water. And everyone in a situation, even. It's just weather knocks out the.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, something for. For a week. You should have something.

[B]

I'm just trying to figure out, why do I remember what I'm wearing? Because I don't remember anything else of what I'm wearing in my whole life, really. And so maybe it's just because of the hype that was around it or remember how we've talked about in the past. We kind of have fake memories if we've seen photos of days and stuff.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

And I've seen photos of that night.

[A]

You do? Yeah. And it's funny how, like, if you think back in memories and you see yourself in third person on there, it's probably an amalgamation of a. Of a amalgamation of seeing the pictures, family stories. And we kind of create these, you know, we call them false memories, but they're embellished memories where what you thought happened isn't always 100%, but it's pretty close. But we do have a lot of false memories. Every human does.

[B]

Well, I do. I do have memories because I remember, like, from my actual vision of, like, watching the media room TV in the brick room. So I have both. I do have actual memories.

[A]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. I mean, I read. Yeah, I remember Y2K. Yeah, I would actually say you probably. You're more formative. Times of remembering childhood is probably around that 5th, 6th, 4th to 6th grade where it really starts. Because you have a lot of things you're, like, hyped for. You're still super connected. Your family, friends are important, but they're not as important. So you have all this stuff Kind of like happening. But so mine would have been mid, mid late 80s. Like I. When Nintendo craze came out in like 84, 85. That's like. That's the hype. I've been. I was my nine when that happened. So.

[B]

Okay, then I'm very late 90s or into the early 2000s. But I gotta say, I think that my childhood time period is way better than yours.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

90S Disney. The Disney Channel on TV in the 90s was off the charts.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It was so good. And you unfortunately were still on the channels that you've talked about.

[A]

Oh, 4, 6, 9, 12, 24. I can still remember it. I can still remember the actual channels.

[B]

So. So I don't ever. That's the difference that will be. That's the only difference I have is I don't remember having to wait because we had cable whenever I turned probably 8 or 9. Right. And before that we had the VHS of all the original. You know, so we would watch those all the time when I was little.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But like. And also the craziest thing I'll never forget having. And I don't remember the year. Maybe we can look up when this came out. But I'll never forget when we. My. My parents showed us that we could now record shows so we didn't like miss it. Like now that's normal. But back then I was. It was record like vhs, no record like the cable. And it would store in the library to watch later.

[A]

Original dvr.

[B]

Dvr.

[A]

What was. Yeah, DVR was what it's called. There was a company that was like Magic TiVo. TiVo was the name of the company that started. Yeah, TiVo was the first company that made the. Like did like the hard drive that you could record things. I do remember that. But the evening cartoons that came on that if you missed, you missed like Charlie Brown's Christmas or Charlie Brown's Thanksgiving. Like when they had an evening, like 7pm is when they went on. You had cartoons in the evening was crazy. And you had a plan around it. You had like, if you missed it, you missed it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You only did it once a year. And it was like such a big day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That you would actually like look for it. All the kids at school would be talking about like, oh, today Charlie, run specials on and see they don't have.

[B]

They're never going to experience kids.

[A]

No.

[B]

It's sad. Like little things like that. I just researched digital video recorders. DVRs first appeared in early 1999. So I was 10.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I should probably say I'm an early 2000s childhood because that's one of my first like younger tennis memories.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I, that was my like aim. I remember AIM was a big deal. Oh my gosh. Or like when the door would shut when someone left. It's like I. I saw a reel on Instagram where they were like playing those nostalgic. Nostalgic sounds. And I did not realize what is the most.

[A]

Is that one of the most nostalgic sounds?

[B]

Well, I didn't think it, but when I heard it it was like this like crazy like zoom back into like almost like excitement. Because like a guy would pop on that you think was cute and be like, like open the door. And I'd be like. And he goes 225 is on. And you'd like be like, hey, like sit. Like just ridiculous. And then if they would leave really fast, like slam the door, you'd be like, like. I just didn't realize how triggered I was by those sounds. I listened to it like four times just to like get that high again. It was.

[A]

Oh, the boys that were on there.

[B]

Well, yeah, because you only were friends with like your real friends.

[A]

Yeah, like chat rooms that you go. Because I didn't have AWOL came out. I was in. It was after, after West Point, after college. So it would have been when I was in the army. And I do remember kind of using it on occasion. But more of it was still like it would still just pick up the phone and call somebody. But I could see be like high school. You didn't do that chat room.

[B]

I didn't even really like it wasn't a thing. Like I don't remember my friends being on it. And my parents probably were clueless about chat rooms. They didn't teach me like not to. It just wasn't a thing.

[A]

Now while west of Internet.

[B]

Well, what gives me the heebie jeebies and the shakes was interacting with complete male strangers on MySpace. Because MySpace came out when I was 15.

[A]

Later. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And my again my parents now we as parents we like study this crap and we try to stay ahead of the game of like what kids are doing on socials and like making fake accounts. Like we are so educated on it because we grew up with socially or I grew up in the generation of social media millennial and my parents didn't know and I was a kid and I didn't really know it was bad. Like I was. I'm chatting from a with a 16 year old boy from California some Things. They'd say, I'd be like, oh, he wants to be my boyfriend. Like, we're just idiots. And 100%. I had to be talking to some creeps on there. Like, I go back to conversations and I'm like, there was a time where I almost, like, said I was dating a guy in, like, Oregon or something. It probably was a man named stan who was 52.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In Oregon. And it makes me, like, shudder. But thank goodness the Internet was still a baby and it was in its infancy.

[A]

You were also smart enough that you wouldn't have done.

[B]

I wouldn't have met anybody or told them.

[A]

You would have been like, I need to go move to another state. Because they're telling. Like, I don't think. I think you would have been more like, dad, this guy. And then, yeah, I think you. Or you'd have been embarrassed and just deleted it. Maybe. But I could. I don't think you. You would. I don't. I think you probably had enough of the moral compass of, like, this feels icky. You wouldn't do something. I bet you would.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I'm trying to think. I never, like. I never really, like, shut it off for being, like, this got too creepy or serious. It just, like, people, we'd, like, stop talking and move on to the next person. My space is just, like, weird.

[A]

I don't remember.

[B]

We're, like, chatting with random people.

[A]

And I was older, but we. So I was in my late. I guess. Yeah. Would have been probably. Probably even late 20s, early 30s. I kind of remember it. Like. And then. Yeah. So you would randomly just talk to me. It was like, all your friend group, and I'd share pictures on it. Would just upload a bunch of crap. And it was all your top eight. Yeah. Whatever it was. And then it was bizarre. And then. Yeah, the amount of, like, randos and then tail end of MySpace. I remember that turning into just. At least ours. I remember it was just nothing but, like, solicitation from, like.

[B]

I don't remember that.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. It was, like, filthy. I was like, this is this one. Then Facebook took over, but it was like.

[B]

Like, wait, solicitation and what?

[A]

Like, I don't know. It was all, like, people, like, trying to get you on porn.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I don't remember that.

[A]

Is this, like, none? Like, so, Billy, literally, I don't, like.

[B]

Do you know why? No, it's because I was in, like, the prime, like, teenage spot. And I think what happened is I went to college in 2006. And then no one used MySpace or talked about it because now Facebook was the shiny new thing. So I think I ditched my space before it actually died. I think we all were like, MySpace isn't cool. It's for babies. Essentially, we moved to Facebook, but you had to be in a college. You had to have a college email, and it wasn't what it is today. It literally was only seeing people you followed. There was.

[A]

It was boring. Probably safer. Probably safer because it was actually people you knew and it wasn't quite as the world Wide web of everyone and everything and, you know, and you know, your grandparents and your kids on the same platform, which you know, which I guess from a college kid, you wouldn't to want. Want that. No, it's kind of what it is. It's different. Marketplace. That's probably why kids use Snap now and other things that their parents aren't on. Kids kind of want to be on things that their parents aren't involved in.

[B]

Well, and you never. You never found, like, new people on Facebook organically. If you wanted to, like, meet people that weren't at your college, you literally had to, like, go to a person that you're friends with and then look at her friends and, like, search to find people.

[A]

Shout out to Facebook. They kind of say, facebook Messenger. Kind of saved our opportunity, our relationship. Remember you. You got locked out at work.

[B]

Oh, because of the coffee shop. Yeah, the coffee just texted you the next morning.

[A]

Yeah, but I would have been like, not that dramatic. Yeah, but you still, like. We're like. It's still. I was like, wow, I thought you were icing me. Anyway, long story short is we had. Yeah, we told the story. Jen was supposed to meet me on our, like, kind of our first coffee date. Yeah, we met after the first. We already. We had dinner the first.

[B]

Second date.

[A]

I mean, our second date.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then she just iced me. Didn't. Didn't show up. No call, no text, no nothing. I was like, well, that was fun while it lasted.

[B]

The real story is I left my phone at work and we closed early on a Sunday night in a mall.

[A]

And you didn't know where I was. Right. Is that where we. Sabrina.

[B]

Yeah, we hadn't said. I was just going to call you.

[A]

After work, and I was at a coffee shop across from where you were at the Galleria. Anyway, so, yeah, Facebook, thumbs up.

[B]

I would say saved us is.

[A]

I didn't say dramatic. I mean, I would have just deleted. I would have gone. I would.

[B]

Whatever. You were crushed.

[A]

Okay, so that sound really really? That was that. That's the part that brings you back. Boom. What about. Oh, I got one that you just. Probably gonna bring you back to memories because not necessarily you, but I bet you heard it over and over and over. Golden Eye video games.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. My brothers played that constantly and I was never good at it. Never. I was never good at video games.

[A]

How's it go? How's that music go? And we lost all and unsubscribe or.

[B]

I think. I think that was actually good.

[A]

Thank you. Harmonized.

[B]

It's not harmonizing. You were the beat.

[A]

Thank you. And I read a little bit. A little bit of extra in there. I don't know what it. Thank you.

[B]

I remember that my middle brother Kevin played that non stop. Like, non stop.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Every day.

[A]

The Golden Gun.

[B]

Oh, yeah. And he was like wicked good at it too. Colt would play it too, but Kevin that. I remember that being so much Kevin's game. So. Yeah. And I'd try to play and it would just be so frustrating. I would just hide. But they could read the maps.

[A]

I saw you play Call of Duty once. Same same tactic.

[B]

Tuck in a corner and shoot people as they come in.

[A]

Hide. Just don't move and press one button.

[B]

Camp. I just find a corner. I get on my belly and I just put my eye.

[A]

And then I just.

[B]

And then they're so mad. You can see in the chat, they're like, camper. And I'm like, don't come at me.

[A]

I call you Coleman. Why Coleman Tents. You know, being camping equipment.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

That's horrible thing. That was good. Actually.

[B]

That was pretty bad. If you have to explain the joke, it's not a good one.

[A]

All right.

[B]

I remember that game, but the one that I also remember is Mario Kart. So I grew up on Nintendo 64, right. And when I say grew up, again, I did not play that much, but my brothers did the one video game on the Nintendo 64. I'm sure there were others. Now that I think about it. We had a ton. But the one I really liked was just Super Mario where you had to go through all the levels. I thought that was really fun. But do you know.

[A]

Oh, you mean the Mario. The Super Mario, like the first world. The 3D one.

[B]

I don't know. Nintendo 64.

[A]

Nintendo 64. Yeah. That have been the first 3D version of Mario. It was. I think it was called Mario.

[B]

Do you take a guess and really think about, like playing video games with Berkeley? It takes two. Okay. In that mindset, you've Watched me play that game. What was the part in Super Mario that would constantly, like, cause me to sweat because I was so stressed the entire process?

[A]

So Mario World, my roommate had a Nintendo 64 and he played that. And I actually didn't have a video game system at that time.

[B]

Are you going to answer my question?

[A]

I'm trying to think about the game. If I. Because I did. I did play it, but I only. I didn't play it a lot. So I'm trying to remember what would have been. I know there was a. I don't know.

[B]

Just think about games, what you have to do.

[A]

Jumping, probably. Jumping.

[B]

No, I'm great at jumping, I guess. Jump at all.

[A]

Oh, shooting. Yes.

[B]

No.

[A]

Moving, crouching, crawling. No, that's all the stuff.

[B]

Anything where you have to swim underwater. I'm horrible at swimming underwater. Do you remember me playing It Takes Two? My girl would just swim into a.

[A]

Remember that?

[B]

Stuck. Or I'd go down instead of straight down. It's like I couldn't figure out the little controllers. Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Horrible. Video games were important to me growing up. That was a big deal.

[B]

You were a gamer.

[A]

I was. I was. You know, gamers before.

[B]

Still are. A gamer.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I like games. It's a fun. I like it because it's mindless and it's fun, and I like the stories.

[B]

Did you know the video like that? Yeah.

[A]

That's like the one video game industry is. Is. I think it was about five years ago. It's bigger than the movie industry.

[B]

Oh, that makes sense to me. It's more accessories.

[A]

Stories are getting deeper. I mean, video games are crazy right now. They're wild. But from what I grew up on, the one game I remember that still brings back nostalgia and I love is Super Mario Brothers. The original.

[B]

Oh, I think you're gonna say Atari.

[A]

No, Atari. Atari. We had one, but I was kind of young. I didn't. It was kind of so archaic. I don't remember having, like, my dad.

[B]

Grew up on it.

[A]

Yeah, no, mine was the original nes Nintendo Entertainment System, US version and Nintendo. It was awesome. I think it was a Christmas of 85 that I got mine.

[B]

So does that look like I'm gonna look it up?

[A]

It's a box. It's the gray box with the cartridge that you had.

[B]

Yeah, we did that with 64s.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is hilarious because you're like, spitty.

[A]

Kids made it worse.

[B]

Like.

[A]

And then you shove it back in there and like. Yeah, so.

[B]

But it works.

[A]

It did work. It broke the games over Time. But you know, Super Mario.

[B]

What was it?

[A]

Nes just. Yeah, the original Super Mario Brothers. It's the one little like game box that they released.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

I played that on the. That sound, the movement. That's it. That's the one. So that one has the. That's the heavy nostalgia to me. And the other game that was with at the same time was Tech Mobile. I used to play the.

[B]

What?

[A]

Tech Mobile was the first football game that came out on it. That game graphics. Oh yeah.

[B]

1985. You can barely make out what they are.

[A]

8 bit. No, that was 8 bit system.

[B]

What does that mean?

[A]

Just the amount of graphics rendering it could do. Oh, and then 16 bit was Sega. And then 32 bit was. Was Nintendo 6. No, 6.

[B]

Take you back.

[A]

Nintendo 64 was 64 bit. Hence 64. What's that?

[B]

Does that take you back?

[A]

Oh, yeah. And it had that weird movement where it always kind of like you're a little bit out of ice. Everything was like. That's what's fun about it. It was. Anyway, I could run that game. The first thing I probably could have done with my eyes closed back as a kid on the first level. I knew based on the sound. I'm not kidding you. That's how much I played that game. I loved it.

[B]

So you came home from school, your mom was working. You lived in a duplex next to your grandma. So you'd go straight home and video game.

[A]

I mean, probably, but. But they were boring enough that it wasn't like new games or online playing to friends. I remember you get burned out because you'd play for 30 minutes and like, wow. Like you. It wasn't like these long marathon game sessions probably just because of like it was red. You would get repetitive, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you could beat a game an entire weekend. So this is other thing that was. You were in there. We both have strong memories of the rental videos.

[B]

Right?

[A]

We could talk about that in a second.

[B]

Like Blockbuster.

[A]

Huge. Right. So my mom's hair salon was next door to a rental place. And so when I was probably six, seventh grade, she'd bring home six, seven. Sorry, please. You can delete that.

[B]

Keep it in.

[A]

She'd bring. I would like. Instead of B buying games, we just rent a game.

[B]

Right?

[A]

You rent it for the weekend and play it. And I'd get tired of it and often beat it. And I remember even DuckTales being a game that I liked. I probably was in seventh grade when that came out.

[B]

I mean, my brothers had to have rented games.

[A]

I don't Remember that was, that's only way I got games was renting them.

[B]

Yeah, they had to have rented them and I'm just not remembering. We had a not block. It wasn't name brand. We had a Blockbuster. I grew up in Burleson. It's really Burleson's big now, but we lived about 30 minutes outside. We are in Burleson, but literally two houses down. Started Alvarado. So we were in the country and so Blockbuster was in town. That was like almost a 30 minute drive. But we had a little like mom and pop, like movie rental place out.

[A]

In the country by a family video, but something like that.

[B]

Not family video, but something even more obscure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I do remember renting movies out of there. And what's crazy is I remember that being so popular. But I also remember when it closed and all of them started shutting down and I remember it closing and I would go and buy DVDs for like $2.

[A]

But you were older, you very much grew up with the Friday night. Watch a new video with your family or you go out together. Like we, we had that in common still because the digital streaming didn't really even come out until we were both. We were married when Netflix and the House of Cards came out and I was all like, man, it was changing everything. And that was like, gosh, that would have been 2010ish is when the streaming really came in and just, just murdered the, the, the video stories, Blockbuster and all this stuff.

[B]

Well, and I, I think this has been talked about so much. I am the smack dab middle year of a millennial. I'm the definition.

[A]

You are, I'm the picture. Look it up, look it up in the dictionary.

[B]

It's got gender is the smack middle year. And I've seen a lot of stuff about this. But we are the last generation that had these little things of nostalgia like the home landline. We didn't have computers when we were really little, like readily with all these video games and stuff. We had the aim. It's crazy. My generation and the two or three to four years around me, we literally had all these things. But then we literally lived the entire change and shift. We had the Blockbusters, but we remember also as a kid at going out of business and seeing DVDs and then Blu Rays.

[A]

Like that was still, that was still very much in existence, that they just shifted the model to beat blu rays and DVDs.

[B]

Well, that's what I'm saying. All the shifts. Yeah, we've lived through those shifts. And we still had a childhood in like 10 under 10 where it was still run out, you know, be outside and play a majority of the time. I still had no Internet until I was 10 to 12. So like we really, those really formative years, we did not have Internet interwebbed into. We know we didn't.

[A]

Sure you did.

[B]

We didn't.

[A]

Your family didn't. But the Internet, like we. Internet didn't even exist when I was a kid. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like the Internet existed when you were in the 90s. It existed.

[B]

Right. I'm saying my generation and the people who are again within four years of me, we literally had an Internet free childhood until it got to like middle school and then we lived it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. So like we've. You're saying that you brought into it where like for me, my entire, all the way through high school, there was, I mean I remember my senior year, my one friend had the Internet. He's like, you got this thing. And we went over because we. I did a project my senior year and he's like, I can get these pictures. It was for cars we're trying to download. And he's like, went on these rooms. I'm like, dude, where did you get these things? Is this like, how is this coming from? He's like, oh, I'm on this. It was where you had to like type an IP address in. Super archaic. And he actually was like literally the only person I knew that then I went to college and at the academy they had the Internet and they had emails and all those things. And I was like telling people like, you can actually write any. It was crazy. So yeah, my childhood lived completely Internet free. But my college was 100 when all the Internet just right. Exploded.

[B]

I just feel like that late 1990s into 2006, a lot happened from 19 as a child.

[A]

You guys see it for sure.

[B]

And in those 10 years we went from little library cards where you'd pull out like the little number or whatever and then we went to looking up an index online. Like we really ex. We had our, we had both experiences and it was wild how we, we got the Internet young enough to where as adults we, we aren't falling. Most of us aren't falling for like scams and stuff. We're very savvy when it comes to Internet. But I do love that under 10 years old we really got that still had the young 90s, 80s.

[A]

It's like what I grew up with.

[B]

Yeah, what you grew up with. We really have, like, my generation was smack in the middle of learning how to pivot.

[A]

Well, we've talked about this before. It's like you and I both got to experience the Saturday morning cartoons. It was like the things that you couldn't just click on and get anything in early access. And our kids have that. And here's my prediction. And call it crazy. Like, I think our kids are the last generation of even traditional media. What it even looks like right now. Right. You know, yeah, cable and stuff, it's. Yeah. Cable is, you know, dying pretty quickly. And traditional, it's like Disney and those things are going to be around content. But AI is going to change everything to the point where, like, hey, if I want to watch a movie, I just type in some prompts and it'll create. I promise you, in our lifetime, there'll be ability to just type it in. Like, I kind of want to watch a movie about this with these characters and these actors, and they'll be able to make up something that's probably going to be pretty good. It's not. I mean, I really. It's crazy.

[B]

Like, you could watch something that glitches and the main star has, like, two heads.

[A]

Yeah, but that's Right. But that's right now. And think about how even, like, we talked about just the advancement of that. Like, remember how you could always tell AI because the hands were all weird. Sometimes I'd have an extra finger, sometimes it'll be off. Now it's getting a point where, like, Sora, you look at, like, is that. It's like, it's almost to the point where, like, you can still tell a little bit, but it's super close to not being able to tell right now.

[B]

Yeah. What's crazy is I've seen it a lot through, like, Amazon products where they'll have, like, promotional videos attached to, like, the landing pages. And you can tell it's AI number one because this beautiful baby who's, like, acting perfectly and doing just the cutest things. That was really hard. Yeah. To, like, get. You can tell with their skin. It's like glowing, perfect skin without skin details.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so those are the things. Now that's.

[A]

Now I know we're talking. And now it's close. A year from now, it's even crazier. And so, like, our generation, in our kids generation, it's like they're going to be experiencing how to navigate this whole thing that we had to navigate the Internet for anyway. But this is about nostalgia.

[B]

Yeah. Let's not go to the future.

[A]

Maybe these podcasts are gonna be nostalgic because they just want to listen to Mike and Jen. We can just AI this thing and it'd be great. Here's the. What do you want us to talk about? No, it is. It is weird, but I. I actually think there's going to be this biggest upsurge of it. I think people are going to adopt to it, using it. People are using it already and it's going to take tons of jobs. People are going to have to adapt to it, but I think people will still want to have that human interaction. We can still be able to tell.

[B]

And I said that to Haley a couple days ago. I said, I think, who knows? But I feel like our country, in our not even country, our world is going to be so hyped up on AI because it's the new shiny thing. We're going to go all in on it. We're going to take it too far. We're going to. It's going to replace jobs and for like jobs where it's like assembly and everything is just buried by the book and there's no changes. I could see how AI could mainstream things for companies, but I think we're going to overshoot and have to figure out how to get out of the mess when it comes to, like empathy and have being a human with, like customer service.

[A]

Sure. And I don't think, I don't think you'll ever. I mean, there are. They are getting to the point where AI can replicate human emotions and things like that, but it's still going to be. You're knowing you're talking to a robot. People you'll still know. But weirdly, again, not to get on a sidebar, but people already having emotional relationships with their chats.

[B]

Okay, we're done.

[A]

They're already doing it.

[B]

I know. It's already a different conversation and it freaks me out.

[A]

Point is, this is. But I do think, I think actually the arts are going to become more popular, like live performances where you see people do long form.

[B]

Crave it.

[A]

Yeah. Because you're gonna like. The cruise industry didn't exist until airplanes shut down international travel for boats. There wasn't really. There wasn't like an industry for cruises that didn't exist. Right. That was a. Yeah. They did it for travel and they would go to a destination and yeah, they had suites and things like that. But you were going from New York to London. Right, right. The cruise industry was like, what do we do with all these ships? How do we get things? They actually eventually Made carnival eventually was the one was like, oh, let's just make vacation destination. Like, yeah, go. So that created a whole industry of leisure that used to not be a leisure industry. Point is, is that I think that human connection will still be there, but there's going to be a lot of shifts we're going to have to go through. And. And I think the biggest jobs that are at risk are white collar jobs. It's great. Like the people that actually have great salaries that work in an office. You work in an office in front of a computer. Start training yourself on how to use your hands or bear in the hill. Anyway, let's go back to nostalgia to make it fun.

[B]

Yeah, you trailed off there for a long time.

[A]

All right, I'm going to ask you some rapid fire questions here. All right?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

What's. What is your childhood comfort Shore movie? That still what the show that like you a show or movie house. Okay. That holds up. Like, would you go back and watch it, right?

[B]

Oh, heck yeah. Full House holds up all right. 100. Although it was old when I watched it. I remember being like, this is from.

[A]

It came out when I was a kid.

[B]

Yeah. Full House. Degrassi was huge when I was in school.

[A]

That Drake.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I like for fun. Okay. You don't even know this for funsies. Like a month back, was it Netflix who got Degrassi on one of the streamings? Have it on. And I've been watching it through there and I'm like, one hilarious. It's kids trying to act. It's like, bad. So bad. But, like, I remember, like, clinging to every week, like, so excited. So, like, those shows, Degrassi, Laguna beach came out when I was in high school.

[A]

Yeah, that's. I said one.

[B]

Well, hold on. This is the thing again. I just feel like maybe everyone feels this way about their generation, but I feel like we got so many, like, firsts and, like, big moments. That was the first reality TV show shot like that. And I remember being like, what the heck? This is like, such real life, which now we know it's like, heavily scripted.

[A]

Well, the real world came out when I was in high school.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I remember that was the first time where it was like. Like everyone talked.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That show was on forever.

[B]

SpongeBob SquarePants still holds up the best comment. SpongeBob and I'll block you.

[A]

That was.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

That one came out probably when I was in high school, I think, and sixth grade. It was a little old, but I didn't appreciate it. But now it's like. It's funny because Ren.

[B]

I was in sixth grade. Couldn't have been high school.

[A]

It was probably college maybe. Okay. But I guess Ren and Stimpy was kind of that way. That art form. Like, that kind of weird. Ren and Stimpy.

[B]

I never got into that.

[A]

Yeah, that. I. I didn't either, but he kind of watched. I didn't.

[B]

Rugrats.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Pepper Ann. What, Doug? These are all comfort shows that I grew up on.

[A]

And you think they still hold? You'd watch them be like, ah, this is good.

[B]

Well, they're nostalgic to me, so sure. I'm like, this is so good.

[A]

Transformers, G.I. joe, Voltron. Only two seasons. Ultron. Yeah. Oh, man. Great. So good. All these cartoons are the ones so good. I could go back. So it's funny. It's GI Joe. I've actually re Watched it. And it's so bad. So bad. It's so like. It's just like. It's like in my mind as a kid, it's like, this is so tough and awesome and like, everything they shoot. They shoot laser beams out of their guns, and they're awful shots. And then they blow up airplanes in the air, and no matter what, somebody would always parachute out of it. So no one ever really died. They would get shot all the time. People always get shot. But no. Oh, and it was. Yeah, but it's all.

[B]

Never saw death.

[A]

Yeah. It actually watched one episode where, like, they. They invaded West Point, and then all the cadets started shooting the rifles, which, by the way, don't have, like, firing mechanisms. So, like, the cadets are all shooting laser beams in there. One of the funniest Stu as ever. Because I was. Now I'm like, didn't happen. Couldn't happen. But awesome. I wanted a laser beam, you know, 1911 rifle. It's be awesome. Anyway.

[B]

It's hilarious.

[A]

So those are the ones. And the real one, like, is a kid. Oh, Knight Rider. Come on. Who's that? David Hasselhoff in his prime. The Hoff. Yo. It was with a car. So good. The car was an AI you know, come back to the whole AI Conversation. The car was, like, alive. And he would say. And the main character's name was Michael. So I kind of. So I wanted a leather jacket. I wanted to be a little bit like the Hoff before Baywatch came in. Which Baywatch then got bigger in high school.

[B]

Okay. I want to ask a question.

[A]

The 90210. I don't know if you watch that show. That's huge. Okay.

[B]

Never See, I've never seen that. I've never seen, like, the big popular 90s sitcoms. And I don't know if it's because maybe I wasn't allowed to or like, I never watched Gilmore Girls. I never watched Friends. Which Friends would.

[A]

Yeah, Friends was great.

[B]

I have now. But I went, like, two years ago. I watched it.

[A]

Sure would. That was that. I never spanned a generation. From me to you, what were the.

[B]

Top TV shows in the late 1990s? I just want to see if I'm missing anything. See if I'm missing anything. 1997, 1998. We're a golden era for television. I agree. That's what I'm telling you.

[A]

According to the Internet. I could say that about the 80s, the music.

[B]

No, 80s is not prime for TV. It was just getting started.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. I never saw Seinfeld. I never saw er. I should have specified Kids.

[A]

Interesting. All right.

[B]

Oh, Rugrats. It's the first one on the list. I told you. Hey, Arnold. The Angry Beaver. Cat Dog. Yes. These are also the Wild Thornberries.

[A]

You're just looking at cartoons.

[B]

Dexter's Lab. I'm. We have the best Powerpuff Girls. Ed. Edd. Nettie. Yeah.

[A]

Cartoon Network. Because you had Cartoon Network as a kid.

[B]

Pepper and Doug. Yeah, these are on here. Sorry.

[A]

I just still think the 80s was the first. We released the first generation. How. How these big corporate figured out how to, like, schlep more toys to us.

[B]

I think you just started because I had. Are you kidding me? I was in the Barbie era.

[A]

I know. Everything was my generation. No, but. So he man was made to sell the toy. He man wasn't a cartoon until they made the toy. And they're like, how do we sell more of this toy? They literally came in. They went hand in hand. You remember watching that show with the toys that made us. Remember?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Rachel, by the way, recommend if you want to watch out. But they. They literally. My generation was. The first one was like, let's target children and let's do it legally. So let's make cartoons. But the toys were already ready to go.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So they knew exactly what they were doing.

[B]

So smart. Hold on.

[A]

Consumerism in the 80s.

[B]

Just because I feel like I have a large demographic of my same age. All that. The Amanda Show. So good. Are you afraid of the dark? What's the Goosebumps? Arthur was so good. Wishbone.

[A]

Impossible. Your generation.

[B]

Impossible.

[A]

That's what you look like. Right? Did you like. And she read it.

[B]

Well, she has red hair and then wears the black Top and the olive green pants which I wear all the time.

[A]

Zoom.

[B]

Yes. I mean, so I don't know any of those shows. Era of great television, we had so many options. I think that's the difference is because cable had just started.

[A]

Yeah, you did.

[B]

It just exploded with content because they needed to like fill the air. Essentially. We had a lot of options, especially.

[A]

The Disney and Nickelodeon. They were making a lot of things that are targeted to teens and tweens. Right.

[B]

Well that was the rise of the child star. Like and at Disney, which is obviously problematic.

[A]

We had them, but it was more like the movie stars. Like, you know, and with the Wonder Years was a big show when I was a kid I loved. I actually like that show a lot.

[B]

So not to get too deep and I promise we'll go back. But this is my one like analogy. Just like right now we're not waking up a society, but I think talking and sharing with more people who maybe don't do like content creation. We're getting more vocal about like kids being exploited for like having their own Instagram and their parents basically getting their kids to do all these videos and making a crap ton of money basically making their kids be influencers under the guise of she has so much fun and she loves it when really it's like a workhorse type situation. Child exploitation is like to the forefront right now, as it should be, but it's a cycle because the same thing happened in the 90s with these kids being on TV. They realized really quick that it was. There was a market with live people television that hadn't been done. It had all been animated. And they literally just all these kids, that's when they made all these like Nickelodeon was top Dog. Disney was top Dog. Cartoon Network was top Dog. PBS did not do that so much. They had more of the animation.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

But there's this boom of just all these before that, the 90s shows like that. You didn't see this massive child star being. I mean you can name a ton of them. Jonathan Taylor Thomas, like he decided to back out.

[A]

Definitely the 90s probably created more of them because of the Nickelodeons and into Disney's. We had the big ones as well. I mean there were plenty of child stars in the movies and things that happened in my generation. Different, but it was different. But. But movies are different and there's always been. There has been. Truth is there's always been child of stars. But the thing is that's such a slippery slope because I mean it's sad. But vast majority of the really large ones have a struggled life. And it's.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

It is sad.

[B]

Movie child star is very different than someone who is making an active TV show every single day. Because that's like a culture and that is a night that's a very long. You know how this shows.

[A]

There were more. There were more in the 90s movies.

[B]

They'Ll film for two to three months.

[A]

Ricky Shorter was a huge one. He still get at, you know, still around acting. He seems to actually be ones that didn't fall into the oblivion anyway. Besides silver spoons and stuff. Oh, I mean, yeah. Gosh, there's so many. All right, I'm going to ask you some rapid fire questions. Just answer them with one word and I'll answer it too. One word or just one thing? Especially again, which 90s or early 2000 trend would you bring back immediately? One trend. You could bring it back right now. 90s or 2000s.

[B]

Blow up furniture.

[A]

What?

[B]

That's so fun that.

[A]

But you're a designer. You're gonna bring back blow up furniture.

[B]

Every time I see it, I get so excited. It takes me back to my room for real. It like makes me off warm and fuzzy.

[A]

Okay, you're saying for the transfer.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right.

[B]

They decide. It makes me happy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can you imagine if you owned cats?

[A]

Yeah, that'd be awful. I'm just. Here's the thing is, I've said this before, I'm gonna say it again. I just wish we could bring back Saturday morning cartoons. Kids actually look forward to it. Yeah, that's the like, that's the one thing I want to bring that trend back where it's like all the on demand stuff. Cut it down. So like you actually look forward to it. That's what I wish we could do. All right, first celebrity crush. You don't have to. I know it was me, but besides me, I don't.

[B]

I think I remember thinking Colin Farrell was cute the first time. But I. I've never been a big fan.

[A]

But you like Jabar. Gerard Butler. I bet you thought he was.

[B]

That was like an adult. No childhood. I. I never was like a fan girl. I never had posters of anyone on my wall. I felt like it wasn't pretty in the decor. Like seriously. I guess I've always been designing to a sense. I never owned like a poster of anybody. I've never been like a big fan girl. I still to this day have a hard time being. I freak out seeing in real life.

[A]

And I, as a kid, As a.

[B]

Kid I was the same way I was kind of like. I don't know. I just didn't really.

[A]

Jonathan Taylor Thomas isn't anyone that. Wasn't he, like.

[B]

I thought he was cute, but again, I wasn't like, a boy crazy girl who, like, had the posters or anything.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I didn't think about it that much.

[A]

I'm trying to think about girls, like, in high school. I'm trying to think the crush would have been. I thought Jennifer. I don't know if she was a little bit. I thought she was real pretty. I'm trying to think about that, that. That age. But then. But then it's also when Jenny McCarthy was on MTV and I thought she was really pretty as well.

[B]

Oh, Jenny McCarthy.

[A]

Yeah. I thought she was on. She was on MTV and MTV was big when I was in high school. It's huge. So she was on one of, like. So anyway.

[B]

But the first, like, merch I bought was Spice Girls in fifth grade.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I could say that was a.

[A]

Group that I loved. All right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What song brings you back to being a kid? Spice Girls.

[B]

I was about to say Wannabe by Spice Girls. Any kind of, like, cartoon. Like.

[A]

Which ones?

[B]

Anyone? Listen just for a minute. It's Doug. That's. But I remember, like, any of, like, the pepper and pepper and makes you cool for seventh grade catcher if you can pepper. And I remember all, like, the theme songs, and those sucked me back.

[A]

Mine. All the theme songs. Agreed. There you go. See, my. I agree with all the theme songs. Like, like, again, going back to the cartoon themes on Transformers, GI Joes. Those things actually weirdly already talked about. I can't remember things. I probably can remember those songs because it was important.

[B]

I'm not putting any money on it.

[A]

Words. Transformers. More than meets the eye. The Autobots fight the evil forces of the Decepticons.

[B]

Yeah, you do.

[A]

That's right. It's weird.

[B]

That's the first time I've ever seen you do that.

[A]

It's important to me now what comes next. So then. So then the other.

[B]

That's all we get.

[A]

Well, that's all you had. It was just hooks. You didn't ruin a lot of words and things. But then high school, like my era. I know you're gonna argue with this. You said an NSync grunge music and heavy metal music. Look. Metallica Black album still to this day holds Nirvana. Oh. The one that brings me back, like, instant high school is like Stone Temple Pilots. I can tell. Boom.

[B]

Is what.

[A]

Stone Temple Pilots.

[B]

Never even heard of them.

[A]

Yeah, seriously.

[B]

Wouldn't joke about that.

[A]

Okay. We'll have something. We have a lot more questions, but for the interest of time, we could probably pause this and do whole another episode on nostalgia. Because we want to do it. So do you want. It is good. I got. Literally have another 10 questions here that we could go through.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

We got to bust questions. Okay.

[B]

Yes. So I'm going to read off my phone from my Instagram question box because I haven't taken the time to write them out and put them in a jar. So I'm so sorry.

[A]

Got one. We got. We could. We'll do one. Let's do it. Jar of weird phone questions.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Jar of phone. Of weird questions.

[B]

Of weird questions. Here they are. There's some good ones in here. I already kind of looked through them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. I think you're going to like this question. If you could live inside one movie or show universe for a week, what would you. You didn't even.

[A]

Heck yeah. Star Wars.

[B]

You interrupted me so quickly.

[A]

Yeah, Star Wars. Heck yeah. Awesome. Because you're in the past, but in the future at the same time. Because it's a long, long time ago. And. And it's like science fantasy.

[B]

Put me in Star wars and I get.

[A]

You could be a Jedi, you could be a mercenary, you could be a hero. You could be a. What's that song?

[B]

We could be heroes forever and ever. That song. Anyway, No, I mean Star Wars. And I imagine me spitting a lot because it's so dusty and dirty and my contacts being very itchy and dry. I don't want to live in that world.

[A]

Another one that would be kind of cool on the science fiction thing. Even nerdier. Two. Two universes. Dune would be sweet. And so would the foundation series of it, because there's like. Those are like. It'd be kind of cool.

[B]

All right, Pick one.

[A]

All right. What would you live in? Let's do that. I find them.

[B]

I want to live in a Sims world. I want to live in the Sims 4.

[A]

Got salsa.

[B]

So, so, so, so. So Dugan, Dargan, you want everyone. Salsa.

[A]

So you wanted the ability to. To within 30 minutes, meet somebody, move, have a baby.

[B]

By science. Adopt a dog and rescue a horse. And that's Correct.

[A]

And move in with Mortimer and kick him out.

[B]

And kick out Bella Goth and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Take his house.

[A]

Take his house. But never get married. But they somehow. You kick them out. You're just the third party that somehow kicks everyone out. Which Jen has done.

[B]

No, I mean, yeah, I have.

[A]

If you could erase one random fact from everyone's memory, what would it be?

[B]

Oh, okay. So I farted in math class in seventh grade, and it still haunts me. It was on the plastic chair, so it just, like, reverberated. Seventh grade in Ms. Williams class.

[A]

Old enough to, like, really have that, like, matter.

[B]

Oh, it was so bad. I'll never forget this girl, Tiffany Gomez, like, stuck up for me. And the whole class was laughing, and she was like, like, what? Y' all act like you've never done that. And she was like, you know, she had some nice. She had some popularity in seventh grade, and everyone like, shut up.

[A]

It's like Adam Sandler when it was it Happy Gilmore where he's like, who? He pees his own pants with it. You know what? No, it was Billy Madison. Billy Madison when he had the kid in the bus. The kid pees his pants. So he pees his own pants. He's like, yes, the coolest. Everyone's doing it. And he's like. And then all the kids start peeing their own pants.

[B]

Yeah, that's right. Kind of like that. We all started farting. Thank you so much for listening. If you would like to request a topic to be talked about or submit anything to us, you can email us at you, me, and Mike podcast Gmail dot com. That's everything typed out. You, me, and Mike podcast gmail dot com. We would love to hear from you guys.

[A]

Absolutely. Keep listening, tell your friends, and let's smash that subscribe button.

[B]

Thank you. We don't have a. Oh, wait, we do.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Well, it's not. It's called following over on, like, Apple podcast. We're not YouTubers, but thank you so much for listening.

[A]

This is on YouTube.

[B]

That's true. We do post this on YouTube. So I guess you could smash the subscribe button. Thank you all so much, and have a wonderful rest of your day. Bye, guys.

[A]

Adios.