Dr. Digby James Wren discusses the Pacific Islands with Haiyi Institute Directrice Ms. Liu Li (Lucy) in Dragon Park, Chaoyang, Beijing, China.

Hello everyone today we are honoured to have with us Mr Digby James Wren, Advisor to the Royal Academy of Cambodia.

Our topic today is the role and influence of China and Australia in their relationship with the Pacific Island countries.

Dr Wren is an Australian and so he is very interested in the role and influence of China and Australia in their relationship with the Pacific Island countries.

We must say that Australia remains part of the Commonwealth - the last vestige of the British Empire.

Spain, Britain, France, America the Japanese also tried to transplant their values into the Pacific Islands.

So the relationship between China and the Pacific Island countries has developed rapidly in the last decade or so so there is a problem with the Australian government and the Australian people

Until now there are 11 countries that have co-ordinated relations with China only 3 countries have co-ordinated relations with Taiwan.

Yes, but we don't have the same relationship in the Australian government as we do in China.

And the relationship with the Australian state, they sometimes have to accept, but they always still think of the Australian background, but you know, nowadays, you know, even the smaller countries, are very responsible, and so you think that China, has a relationship with the Belt and Road, and that's why they have a relationship with China.

What does it have to do with the Belt and Road? And also, what does the Australian government and the Australian people think about this? Those are the three questions, and I'll put them in order. First of all, I want to think about the original colonisation of those islands.

What I'm talking about in the modern era, because these islands are obviously very different in their character and their religious character, they're not the same, these islands are not exactly the same human beings, and that's not true. So, for example, it is very interesting that Vanuatu has the same racial type of origin, for example, Mongolia and Taiwan. But other island families, for example, have Melanesians, which is the same as Bougainville, and then others are Polynesians, like Samoa, Tonga.

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Digby James Wren 博士在中国北京朝阳区龙园与海义研究所所长刘莉女士（Lucy）讨论太平洋岛屿问题

Lead: Original Transcript (Lucy)

大家好今天我們非常榮幸邀請到柬埔寨皇家研究院院長顧問Digby James Wren 先生今天我們的主題是中國和澳大利亞與太平洋島國關係的角色和影響這個問題因為Digby先生他是澳大利亞人所以對於中國澳大利亞

我们必须说澳大利亚是联邦国家的一帝国的一帝国的一帝国的一帝国的一帝国的一帝国

西班牙、英国、法国、美国日本人也试图移植一些岛屿是的

所以中国和太平洋岛国最近十几年的关系发展比较迅速那么在这里面就有一个问题就是澳大利亚政府和人民

直到现在已经有11个西班牙国家与中国有协调关系只有3个国家有协调关系只有3个国家有协调关系只有3个国家有协调关系只有3个国家有协调关系只有3个国家有协调关系只有3个国家有协调关系只有3个国家有协调关系只有3个国家有协调关系只有3个国家有协调关系只有3个国家

是的,但是我们在澳大利亚政府不像中国

和澳大利亚国家的关系,他们有时候必须接受,但他们总是仍然想起澳大利亚的背景,但你知道,现在,你知道,甚至小国,他们,呃,你知道,他们非常负责任,所以你认为中国呃,你知道,

与巴西河岛有什么关系?同时,澳大利亚政府和澳大利亚人民对此有什么看法?这就是三个问题,我将它们整理好。首先,我想要考虑的是那些岛岛的原始殖民地。

在现代时代我所谈论的,因为这些岛属明显地和他们的性格和宗教性格非常不同,他们并非一样,这些岛属并非完全是一样的人类,这并非正确的。因此,例如,瓦努瓦鲁有同一种族类的来源,例如蒙古人和台湾人,这非常有趣。但其他岛属,例如,有梅兰尼西亚,这与巴布尼加尼一样,

然后其他人是俄罗斯人,就像 Samoa, Tonga

比如说,华尔街是泡沫地区。我认为他们能够在这些岛属中在第一个位置进入这些岛属,是一个非常强烈的活动。但他们也建立了,我认为,很丰富的管理系统,他们非常丰富的组织。他们并没有经常互相冲击,并不是那么多,但他们在开始的时候,我认为他们很像军队。但不是所有人,只是一些人。

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