Kurt Metzger - Episode #405

Summary

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Date: March 4, 2026

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Episode Overview

Michael Malice sits down with comedian, writer, and provocateur Kurt Metzger for a freewheeling and deeply subversive conversation, touching on everything from propaganda (both North Korean and American), transhumanism, the Epstein files, mind control, autism and the spectrum, U.S. foreign policy, conspiracy, and cultural programming. The discussion is punctuated by the pair’s signature irreverence and call-outs to pop culture, skepticism toward mainstream narratives, and sharp observations about power, media, and morality.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Childhood Propaganda, Challenger Disaster & North Korea

[01:49–04:41]

• Recollection of the Challenger explosion and its impact on children; compulsory school broadcasts compared to North Korean-style emotional mobilization.
  • Malice uses this to draw distinctions between American and North Korean propaganda (in the DPRK, only Kim Jong Il is a "character" in the state narrative).
• Commentary on the normalization of trauma via media and the possible subconscious messaging (“twilight language” and NLP techniques).
• "They need you to feel this way right now." – Metzger [02:38]
• The dark humor and cultural critique frames the Challenger explosion as both a real tragedy and a programmed media trauma.

NLP, Hypnotic Language & Cultural Programming

[05:13–10:31]

• Metzger and Malice discuss TV, media, and politics using “twilight language” and NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) techniques to manipulate the public.
• Malice: “If you only speak one language, you’re gonna fall into this NLP stuff a lot easier…” [07:13]
• The role of "peacocking" in pick-up artist subculture and in public persuasion.
• Social media “bounties” for viral phrases and how engagement incentives shape the online discourse—a “squid games” logic reset for digital virality.
• The generational divide: older generations are more susceptible to programmed language from legacy media.

Hypnosis, Reframing & Tribalism in Politics

[09:15–10:31]

• Discussion of Scott Adams’ hypnotic language framework, Trump as a "master persuader," and the widespread use of “reframing.”
  • “People join tribes and have their views assigned to them.” – Malice quoting Adams [10:07]
• Religious (cult) mindset as an inoculation against outside programming, yet the power of language remains pervasive.
• The difference between “surface tribalism” and deep, hardwired epistemological divides.

Transhumanism, Epstein Files & Hidden Agendas

[13:37–19:14; 41:53–44:26]

• Transition to Metzger’s longstanding fixation with transhumanism, occult symbols, and elite interest in transcending (or abolishing) human nature.
  • “The goal for these fucking scumbags is to turn us all into hermaphrodites…that are unconscious of being run like the animals we are.” – Metzger [15:37]
• Malice clarifies the biblical Adam Kadmon myth and its symbolic significance for occult/transhumanist elites.
• Explicit call-outs to Yuval Noah Harari and World Economic Forum rhetoric about modifying humanity.
• Epstein files: Metzger argues the truly unsettling details (not just sexual crime, but “cannibalistic,” mind-control, or genetic experimentation content) are hidden in plain sight, with journalists and the public ignoring or dismissing the most damning evidence.
  • “No one freezes jerky… No one redacts legitimate beef jerky emails. It's human meat.” – Metzger [69:17]

U.S. Foreign Policy, Hypocrisy, & Conspiracy

[16:17–19:47; 29:51–32:49; 43:02–44:13]

• Iranian nuclear policy, North Korea, and American “continuity of government” as self-sustaining power systems.
• “If Saddam had nukes, we wouldn’t have invaded.” – Malice [17:05]
• Obama, Reagan, and even Bernie Sanders as "groomed" or manipulated figures within an entrenched system—presidents are “not in charge” of foreign policy.
  • “Continuity of government, they call it." – Metzger [29:51]
• The incestuous relationship between intelligence, blackmail, and elite networks—Dennis Hastert, Sirhan Sirhan, and the untouchable status of certain politicians.
• Why left/right tribalism is a “veal cage” for thought—a false dichotomy.

Hollywood, Abuse, and the Elites

[34:32–39:11; 76:06–77:17]

• Ongoing discussion of Pizzagate-like scandals, the psychological tactics used to cover up or normalize abuse, and how even the most egregious cases (Dennis Hastert, Lord Mountbatten, Rob Reiner) get memory-holed or reframed.
• "All of the institutions... have failed. All of them." – Metzger [44:54]
• Drug abuse in Hollywood as a trauma response, often rooted in family abuse rather than substance.
• Malice calls out the normalization of abnormality in "elite" circles.

Mind Control, Autism & Systems Programming

[46:27–53:35]

• Education, mental compartmentalization, and the rise of "engineered" social behaviors (from autism spectrum exploitation to “Love on the Spectrum” style media).
• The “smart but focused” neurodivergent worker as ideal for modern technocratic systems—intense competence, sexual malleability, little resistance to authority.
• Societal implications of intense medicalization/pharmaceutical regimens for both rich and poor children.
• Malice and Metzger highlight the cognitive “plaque” of ideologically rigid brains, drawing back to Scott Adams’ tribe assignment framework.

Disinformation Tactics, Entrapment, and the Use of Terror

[62:46–67:39]

• Programs of manufactured terrorism, entrapment, and the cyclical use of crisis for state power (Guy Fawkes, modern FBI plots, Stasi tactics).
• “We create terrorists—the way they put together Spice Girls.” – Metzger [63:47]
• Intelligence agencies imitate each other’s most effective control measures.

Media Control, Narrative Manufacture, and NLP

[23:13–24:21; 74:32–75:22]

• Owning newspapers, media outlets as "planes of cause" for narrative engineering.
• “If I was a dark occultist being, owning my own newspaper…” – Metzger [24:12]
• Pushback against reductionist (and anti-Semitic) narratives: the problem is elite monopolization, not ordinary Jewishness.
• The peculiarities of public mind control and mass self-hypnosis—especially since COVID.

Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “That’s a conspiracy. No.” – Metzger [02:07], on the Challenger disaster
• “Sci fi, there's all in sci fi is when will humans give up their love of war?” – Metzger [19:01]
• “It’s almost like ‘plaque’ or something, where they're like, this just has to be this way.” – Metzger [09:01]
• On Epstein Files:
  • “You don't tell me its not people… It's human meat. Okay, so it could be adult meat. Okay, it's probably kid meat but don't. I just wanted to be nuanced about...” – Metzger [68:36]
• "I can fart at will now and not have to worry." – Malice [13:17], humor during illness stories.
• “If you only speak one language, you’re gonna fall into this NLP stuff a lot easier…” – Malice [07:13]
• “Continuity of government, they call it.” – Metzger [29:51]
• “All of the institutions that any—Oh, remember I told you about Lord Mountbatten? …How bad of a pederast you have to be that MI5 can’t clear your Wikipedia?” – Metzger [44:54]
• “We create terrorists, like, that way.” – Metzger [63:47]

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Notable Segment Timestamps

• Challenger Disaster, Childhood Media, and Propaganda: [01:49–04:41]
• Pick-up Artists & NLP: [05:13–07:09]
• Tribes, Scott Adams, and Reframing: [09:15–10:31]
• Transhumanism & Adam Kadmon: [13:37–15:47]
• Elite Politics, Nukes, Foreign Policy: [16:17–19:47]
• Institutional Hypocrisy (Hastert, etc.): [43:02–44:26]
• Autism, Mind Control, and Societal Design: [46:27–53:06]
• Entrapment, Terror, and Controlled Opposition: [62:46–67:39]
• Media/Plane of Cause, Narrative Management: [23:13–24:21]
• Epstein Files—Cannibalism Allegations, Blackmail, Bannon Interview: [68:36–73:27]

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Tone, Language, & Format

The episode is caustically funny, deeply skeptical, and deliberately transgressive. Both Malice and Metzger stay in their characteristic tones—Malice as the anarchist, gleeful culture jammer; Metzger as the disaffected but perceptive comedy outsider, the “bilingual” interpreter of both media language and conspiracy subtext. Serious themes of trauma, corruption, and existential risk are delivered with punchlines, dark asides, or rapid-fire shifts in topic. Quotes are often sardonic and references are layered with inside jokes, especially about media and subculture phenomena.

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Useful for Listeners Who Haven't Heard the Episode

If you missed the show, you’d come away understanding:

• The ways both hosts believe society is manipulated—via language, schools, government, and media.
• That conspiracies are real, but not always where you'd expect—or how they're usually sold in mainstream or alternative narratives.
• Insights into the Epstein scandal, especially in connection to transhumanism, blackmail, and elite impunity.
• How pop culture, science fiction, and even entertainment scandals tie back to deeper questions of power, programming, and mind control.
• The essential irreverence and self-awareness with which Malice and Metzger tackle society’s “taboo” topics.
• That society's left/right split is largely performative—most real power is beyond it.

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Transcript

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[Michael Malice]

Folks, my new graphic novel, Unwanted, a tall tale of the old Westland new wave is out for pre order now. I've been working on this for 25 years. It's a dark comedy with a shiny exterior. Please check it [e-mail]. Good afternoon. Michael Malice here. Let that be a welcome for the next hour. You're in for a crazy treat. I had two days, excuse me, of food poisoning. So I was delirious. And I woke up this night for the first night I had two nights, was woken up four or five times with crazy dreams. So I was a little loopy. So we have the perfect guest, my dear friend Kurt Metzger. You see him in a Jimmy Dore show. If he's in your town doing stand up, you have to go see him.

[Kurt Metzger]

And an aspiring astronaut, respected, aspiring lifestyle judge. I respect Judge Fluencer.

[Michael Malice]

A cosmonaut.

[Kurt Metzger]

I live in a judge house.

[Michael Malice]

The reason I want to have you on right away is because we talked. I mentioned you on Rogan about the Epstein stuff. Before we get to that, we were just talking about the Challenger, which was in 1985, I believe. And I was yelling at you because you're in your NASA hat. And I said, you should be drinking a Sprite. Because the joke was, why does NASA drink Sprite? Because they couldn't get seven up.

[Kurt Metzger]

And I said, that's a conspiracy. No. Yeah, well, but you were. How old are you? Close to my age, right?

[Michael Malice]

Yeah. 85. So I was like nine.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, so, yeah, so I was in second or third grade, right. And we had the Every and the Weekly Reader.

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then we have reading groups of like. So. And then you'd name your group like one was the. You know, like that. And boy, they would just spam us with. It was like this fucking North Korean propaganda for kids about like, we're putting a teacher in space. Well, can you believe it? A teacher.

[Michael Malice]

That is not. Not something North Koreans would do, by the way.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, but I'm just saying the. The thing of where we need you to feel this way right now.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, sure, sure. Of course.

[Kurt Metzger]

And so at that age, I'm like, I fucking hate school. Wait a minute.

[Michael Malice]

I just really want to point out it's important for people. All the North Korean propaganda is only about Kim Jong Il. So if you read the propaganda, which I had to do to write my book, Dear Reader, none of the other characters even named.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Oh, right.

[Michael Malice]

So it's like Kim Jong Il is talking his teacher. Then they go to a factory. In the factory owner, like, literally no one exists as a character except for him.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's a really. One day, maybe they will have the honor that South Korea has of having like two or three of those guys.

[Michael Malice]

Well, they have three.

[Kurt Metzger]

They have Samsung. Who's there?

[Michael Malice]

No, they have the great leader, Kim Il Sung.

[Kurt Metzger]

The South Korea. I mean, who's the South Korean cult? Because if you live in South Korea, you work for Samsung or kill yourself. That's a fact. You got it. That was the North Korean.

[Michael Malice]

Koreans always point that out, that South Korea at one point was the suicide capital of the world.

[Kurt Metzger]

It is now. And it's the capital men killing women. Yeah, well, when I say they all look alike, I'm not saying that to be racist. They literally get surgery to all look alike in the free Korea, the North Korea with lights down south. Okay, wait, no.

[Michael Malice]

North Korea gets plastic surgery now, too. And it's like. It's like back. Back door. It's really gross. Like, they get the eye stuff. Like, it's like you don't go, oh,

[Kurt Metzger]

my God, you got to go through my asshole to get to my eye. I don't believe it.

[Michael Malice]

Okay, anyway, please talk about.

[Kurt Metzger]

Remember seeing a blow? So remember them hyping up a teacher?

[Michael Malice]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

In space like pigs in space.

[Michael Malice]

Was it Lindsey Eagle? Was that her name?

[Kurt Metzger]

No, it was Krista McAuliffe.

[Michael Malice]

That's right. Yeah. Who's Lindsey Eagle?

[Kurt Metzger]

I'll never forget because I would hear Lindsey Eagle.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah. Is that somebody?

[Kurt Metzger]

It sounds like it. If it's not, it's a good fake name.

[Michael Malice]

Right. I hope it's not a porn star that I just reviewed.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, that's right. That's a porn star.

[Michael Malice]

The first porn astronaut.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. So they. What do you call it? We all. So I didn't care as a kid. I'm like. I like. I liked sci fi because a kid. But none of it involved my teacher at school. I hated going to school. Anyway, so the big day comes and we all. Every class and I know I was all over country and everyone. It was required to Sit and watch.

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

A teacher blow up. The seven people blow up. And I remember being. And some kids. So that's to traumatize you on purpose. And so that's.

[Michael Malice]

You thought they knew it was gonna blow up?

[Kurt Metzger]

No, I didn't even realize until, I

[Michael Malice]

mean, now do you think. You think that that was intentional?

[Kurt Metzger]

100%. Okay, shut up about space for a while, kids. Hey, we're not doing all that shit we were about to do. We're not doing it now. That's a little. And so that's called the Twilight language. That speaks to your subconscious like any kind of nlp.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

All these scumbag occultist animals that run shit. They are cute. Somebody like an Andrew Tate who's like, set up his own little freemasonry. You see his little right hand man, Wiggy, Iggy, Sembleweis, fake name. Okay. The guy looks like every pickup artist from a VH1 show you saw.

[Michael Malice]

Well, that's not true because there's two types. There's mystery and then there's style. So styles like me, he's this little person who's. And Mystery is a foot taller.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay. We describe what he wears.

[Michael Malice]

So they both do something called peacocking. Mystery has the top hat with the goggles on it. And style would have like a. Like a snakeskin suit.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'll tell you the.

[Michael Malice]

And there'd be a lot of feather boas for some reason, which women love, obviously.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Okay. Women love. Okay, wait, wait, I'm here. So that. That. That guy, he. That I'm describing, he wears a kung fu kind of shirt.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

And a fedora, of course.

[Michael Malice]

Yes. Okay. That is peacocking for sure.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, he. And he's like the court magician. And then his brother, what's his name, Christian Tate is the sublime prince of the organization.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

And you are initiated, right? Sure. And you pay money. Oh, by the way, I'm starting university, by the way. Just want to announce that if you would like to be in the inner circle, know about astronaut stuff. Yeah. Then. So it's. We learn about the world. It's really a school of life. So this guy Semmelweis is a hypnotist. So a big key to a lot of it is hypnotism. And as like, oh, used to be in the Rajneesh cult. I can't remember his dumb name, but he's like some nerd that. Whatever. And then became the Right hand Man. And that's what all this magic shit is that they do is some it's like part hypnosis, part just lying. It's movie magic. And then what happens is.

[Michael Malice]

Can I say something? Until you said that didn't click in my head. I've always said for a long time, one of the best things that ever happened to me was being bilingual by the time I was five. Because you learned to listen to language. Conceptual instead of linguistically.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, interesting.

[Michael Malice]

If you only speak one language, you're gonna fall into this NLP stuff a lot easier because your brain is going to make these associations unconsciously that you otherwise wouldn't. So that's clearly something that is done in TV media, commercials, in every form of media. You have these kind of chains that people make.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Michael Malice]

And you see them when they repeat these phrases verbatim on social media and reply.

[Kurt Metzger]

I knew it was about to burp intelligently. Okay. And I wanted to hold it back to not condescend.

[Michael Malice]

Okay. You can condescend to my audience.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't want to burp button to condescend. Oh. Anyway. Yeah. That's fucking interesting. Well, also, keep in mind, many of those people are cliphouse bounty collectors. And so, you know, backfired bigly. Remember that phrase that really backfired bigly.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

They're being paid. And the way that the squid games. Now do you know how they do it? No, what do you mean?

[Michael Malice]

It's a squid games.

[Kurt Metzger]

So it used to be whatever, like somebody, you know, some great organization, like, let's just say the IDF would pay you or somebody. Or somebody. No. Now they put these bounties up. Is like. So it's like there's 50 grand here for whoever can not only post this wording but get the most engagement. So let's say you got like.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right.

[Michael Malice]

You see this on Twitter all the time.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right. And it's everywhere.

[Michael Malice]

And people are onto it, though. Like, is. You'll see like 15 influencers using the exact same phrasing at the exact same time.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right. And which is sloppy on their part. Well, they don't. It's fine. Just throw a lot of shit out because people are also naturally doing it. You just described what they naturally.

[Michael Malice]

Right. That's true. It's both.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. So usually that's like, you know, talking to a parent that watches like Fox News or something or CNN or my aunt. Like, they. I worry about the future democracy. You can watch it with people a certain age. They're cooked, dude. They ain't going nowhere in their head.

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's Almost like plaque or something, where they're like, this just has to be this way. And I mean, I believe that, you know, they're. They're. Hey. But you're just setting your way in your belief system where you have these givens that cannot change, no matter what.

[Michael Malice]

Scott Adams, who was a hypnotist and talked about the scuff a lot, he. Are you not a fan of his?

[Kurt Metzger]

I didn't know that he was a hypnotist.

[Michael Malice]

He talked about this all the time. He's like, this is why. Why in 2015, he was going on. I think Trump's going to win because he's using hypnotic techniques in his speeches. This was his big thing.

[Kurt Metzger]

They all are doing it right.

[Michael Malice]

But he said, trump's doing it better than anybody, in his opinion.

[Kurt Metzger]

Wow, that's interesting.

[Michael Malice]

He called Trump a master persuader.

[Kurt Metzger]

Anyway, I was a huge fan of his. White people move away from black people.

[Michael Malice]

Hold on. So during he had this amazing book which I highly recommend, called reframe your brain. And he goes, you have the normal framework and then the reframe and instantly change your thinking. So one example is frame. Reframework is. I should do a great job. The reframe is. My job is to train for a better job. And when you think about that, where you're like, okay, I'm not here for life. I'm here to move up the ladder.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right.

[Michael Malice]

I think it's very healthy.

[Kurt Metzger]

It explains all of cable TV people's jobs, really, but it explains everybody.

[Michael Malice]

Like, this is why you said of sitting at a desk, you should try to push yourself and. And move to the next thing. Another reframe was, you know, people have political views. And his. His reframe was people join tribes and have their views assigned to them. And you see that very clearly for people who watch cable television, not only do they know every. They could flip on a dime with one position overnight. And, you know, they all use the same verbiage as that person on tv.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, it was in a religion. We did that.

[Michael Malice]

Of course.

[Kurt Metzger]

You know, actually, Jehovah Witnesses, all. Everybody in a small. I always say cult, but I think people mean it, think I'm really trashing it, which I'm not. I just mean a religion you have to do.

[Michael Malice]

It takes work. It takes.

[Kurt Metzger]

I can't just be a Catholic and say, I'm trad. And, you know, the shit I have no respect for whatsoever. It's a. But you. But it's almost an inoculation of against. Because we had to not be worldly.

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

So I didn't have posters of a.

[Michael Malice]

That's why I was surprised.

[Kurt Metzger]

Dancing pedophiles in my room like a worldly kid.

[Michael Malice]

But I was surprised you were allowed to have sci fi, then, as a kid, because I would think that'd be taboo.

[Kurt Metzger]

Why?

[Michael Malice]

Because, I don't know. There's some. There's demonic stuff in sci fi. Often explicitly.

[Kurt Metzger]

In fact, I would say sci fi was a way to be able to sneak demonic stuff into my shit. Because it's sci fi and not occult.

[Michael Malice]

No. Well, you were the one, weren't you? The one told me about. What's that book about? How the aliens come and they look like devils.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. But I wasn't, like, not allowed to read it. It's just.

[Michael Malice]

That's why I'm surprised you're not allowed to read it.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's my point. Oh, no. Arthur C. Clarke.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah. Childhood's end.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. He's a very clever pedophile. No, no. I didn't even know about that book till very.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, okay. Because you told me about it. I think you were the one told me about it.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. That you. It's a famous. You don't like sci fi, right?

[Michael Malice]

I don't like sci fi.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay. Half the missing pieces of what these fuckers are up to is in sci fi.

[Michael Malice]

Okay. Oh, there you go. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, it's unbelievable how much of it's in sci fi. Arthur C. Clarke, a pederast so vile he could. He had to be exiled to Sri Lanka.

[Michael Malice]

Is that true?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, it was either. I think it's Sri Lanka, but it's one of them kind of places. Imagine being that much of a pedophile that you can't stay in England. My goodness.

[Michael Malice]

I don't want to imagine it.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, well, you don't have to. That's why. Really? Really. Scott was fucking with him. The phone call. Like, he called him up because 2001. I thought Arthur C. Clarke wrote it and it was adapted, right? No, they. It was for the screen and Stanley Kubrick's working with him and Sam and. And their phone conversation. As soon as, you know, basic shit. You could see what they're doing to each other, which is.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

He goes, hey, how's your exile going? Because he's referring to his pedo shit. And I was like, oh, it's Lanthorn. Terribly. And then. Really? Not really, Scott. Stanley Kubrick.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Was like, oh, infant. Terribly. I guess you want to fuck me, then. He didn't say that, but you can Tell there what that thing was anyway. That. That. I know what you're talking about with the reframing, because I shit my pants, like, one more time than I should have this year. I call it winning in my pants. And what I find it does. Mike, in space, we do this. Oh, I just won in my pants again. And then people. And it just changes your whole perspective on it, you know, when you have your winnings in your pants this week, it's called reframing your thoughts.

[Michael Malice]

See what I like about Scott this weekend? I knew I was getting better when my fart stopped being Russian roulette.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, yeah.

[Michael Malice]

Then I'm like, all right, I'm on the mend.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. There's a. I feel like you're bragging

[Michael Malice]

that I. I am bragging.

[Kurt Metzger]

I feel like you're bragging.

[Michael Malice]

I can fart at will now and not have to worry.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. A lot of people.

[Michael Malice]

And someone tweeted me to go wearing it. Wear a diaper like a real man. And I did. Squish.

[Kurt Metzger]

Squish. Yeah. Men's diapers. I want. There's so many great AI commercials I want to make. I sent you my form to mouth.

[Michael Malice]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Vegetables made of meat.

[Michael Malice]

No, you didn't.

[Kurt Metzger]

You play stuff in here? No, no.

[Michael Malice]

Well, let's focus, though, because I really. This Epstein stuff is really.

[Kurt Metzger]

I think, anyway. Yeah.

[Michael Malice]

So one of the things that you. You were telling me about. I think you were on. On this for years. For years. Listen, I'm being serious, because a lot of this stuff is about stuff that they do to kids, but you've been the one telling me this is a transhumanist thing, and they've been. The transhumanist stuff isn't thumbtacks and string.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's.

[Michael Malice]

It's very explicit. The guy who was number two, WF I forget his name is Yoram Harani. It was not his name. Something like that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Boy, every time you fuck it up, I forget it.

[Michael Malice]

Something beautiful.

[Kurt Metzger]

Harari.

[Michael Malice]

Right. Alex Jones's book, the Great Reset, just goes through that book page by page and breaks down how screwed up that stuff is. And you were showing me there's plenty of stuff in the Epstein stuff that leaked on that regard. Can you talk about that? Because I think that's really key, and that's what people aren't talking about.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, the one. Oh, okay. Sean Atwood's the one. I don't. Well, I don't remember which one we're talking about, but Sean Atwood, probably speaking.

[Michael Malice]

That's the stuff people aren't talking. Luke brought this up also. Rakowski on the show. Yeah, the transhumanist stuff.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's a VIP Sting hermaphrodite. They want to make a nice Adam Cadmon. You know, Adam Cadmon, that's the.

[Michael Malice]

Is that the man within the circle?

[Kurt Metzger]

No, it's the bad bunny. Has a tattoo of it on his chest. It's in Kabbalah.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

And in, you know, a bunch of dippy occult things before Adam and Eve are split, so.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, yeah. So hermaphrodites in Genesis.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right.

[Michael Malice]

I didn't know that was what's called.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, and so it's actually because, you know.

[Michael Malice]

Wait, hold on, let me explain to people, because your train of thought sometimes hard people to follow. So in Genesis, you have the creation myth, and it happens twice. So the first time it says God, man and woman, he made them regarding Adam and Eve. And then later it says Adam came and then he took Eve from Adam's rib. Right. So the argument was originally God made a two bodied being half man, half woman, and then separated them out.

[Kurt Metzger]

He broke them like a popsicle on the counter.

[Michael Malice]

Right, so you're. That's what you're referring to as Adam Cadman.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And the goal for these fucking scumbags is to turn us all into hermaphrodites. Okay. That are unconscious of being run like the animals we are.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Rousseau really was into this. You've seen, you know, that's what the nobles. In fact, all those Illuminati motherfuckers were. Their whole thing was. Oh, you know, it's actually sounds like humanist, but they clearly hate humans, and so it's all like, you'd be better off not thinking. You'll hear it now in Sci Fi. You'll hear from Sam Harris, that boy. You want to hear some great takes on Iran? Can I recommend Sam Harris? Wow, smart. He speaks slowly so I can understand it. And the ideas are fantastic. You know, he warned us we should have preemptively nuclear bombed Iran, and we didn't listen to. Yeah, on Bill Moore. In fact, people were on him and Bill's side. In fact, I was. I wasn't like on anybody's side, but I'm like, yeah, well, for Ron's crazy if they have a nuke. Now here's a great framing because, okay, let's say Iran gets nukes. Doesn't Israel have nukes? I mean, officially they don't, but they do. They're threatening us with them if we don't do what they want. You're telling me Iran can't have them. And then it sounds like there'll be peace like we used to have back when there was the Cold War. Because what do they call it? It's like we both have a gun

[Michael Malice]

mutual sea of destruction.

[Kurt Metzger]

So why don't you just have a. Yeah, so that sounds like north.

[Michael Malice]

That's North Korea's strategy and worked for them.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, Now Iran doesn't invade other countries. That awful place. I look down on them for that and I'm glad that we're doing.

[Michael Malice]

Here's the thing we know is that if Saddam had nukes, we wouldn't have invaded.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yo, that's a great way to put it, dude.

[Michael Malice]

It's very simple.

[Kurt Metzger]

And that's when and other people made this point and I'm forgetting who. So I'm sorry, but it's a great point when these dictators saw what we did to Gaddafi after he played ball, right? Where North Korea says, oh yeah, we're making nukes. The second you fucking. I mean, you know, I know people are real. Oh, the Jews right now and Zionists. Yeah, fuck them. But don't forget America is as shady as it comes.

[Michael Malice]

So let me talk.

[Kurt Metzger]

America's as shady. Don't ever trust America.

[Michael Malice]

Let me first. Let's talk to two points to back you up. All the Afghans in Afghanistan who worked with us, as soon as Biden was like, all right, we're out of here. They most of them, if not all of them got turned over to the Taliban, tortured and killed them. And it's people were like, like, well, sorry. It's like they trusted us and they got burnt. North Korea, after Romania fell and Ceausescu was killed. Every day Kim Jong Il, the dear leader played that clip for his party cadres and said, if we go down this and he put his hand in his throat, this is what's going to happen to us. So these leaders know perfectly well that if they go down they're going to get killed and with good reason. So of course it is a huge incentive for them to get nuclear weapons to make sure no one Fs with them. North Korea is the size of California there. No one's touching them, not even China, who's on their border.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, why don't they want to let us in to eat some of their delicious children? What is your problem?

[Michael Malice]

This children are pretty freedom. There's not a lot of meat on those bones.

[Kurt Metzger]

You know, I remember a period of time feeling like the Bible is a bunch of fairy tales. But what I've since learned, Mike, is that fairy tales are the Bible. To some people, that was their Bible, the child eaters. That's why all the stories are about eating a kid.

[Michael Malice]

But let's talk about this transhumanist stuff.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. So the failed species that is man, as Alex Jones put it, this failed what species that is man.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

So sci fi. There's all in Sci fi is when will humans give up their love of war?

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, Right. Oh, we could have med beds if you humans in your warlike ways.

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

I didn't join the fucking military, fuckheads. Everybody voted because Trump said there wasn't going to be no more of that.

[Michael Malice]

Okay? When I woke up from my delirium and I went to drive, I'm in my bed. I hadn't eaten for, like, 36 hours. I checked Drudge, and I can't even wrap my head around. We're, like, bombing Iran. I'm like. I could get my head. I'm like. And the first thing I did, I tweeted out this photo of Woodrow Wilson's 1916 campaign button. He has kept us out of war.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, dude. And, you know, he's the reason we were like this now.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah, no shit. The worst pressing we've ever had by far.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's a puppet.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah. But the point is, I. I don't understand. I was just like, yeah, I know this is happening, but it's just like. Just please.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, I know what you mean. It's like, I can't believe what I can't fucking believe now, right? I mean, I can't believe what I believe. I'm like, I can't believe this.

[Michael Malice]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

And every time I think I got a handle on it, it's like, way worse.

[Michael Malice]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

And, you know, hey, the Ayatollah was a bad guy. I don't know if he, you know, ate a kid's face ever, though.

[Michael Malice]

But did you see the. That there's a. There's a super Ayatollah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Whoa. Is. He has. What do you mean?

[Michael Malice]

There's a guy who's 99 who's just issued a fatwa. Did you not see this? He looks like Mr. Burns.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yes.

[Michael Malice]

Dad is pissed. No, no, I'm not kidding. I pull up his picture. You did not see this.

[Kurt Metzger]

Mm.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, my God. I get to talk Kurt. About this. It is the funny.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. I would like to see him. It's so I can apologize for America on foreign soil. I wish I was in foreign soil so I can apologize.

[Michael Malice]

Well, you're. You're you're in the Republic of Texas. That's kind of foreign soil.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, they're really good on Castle Doctrine laws because I have to threaten a hobo every other day.

[Michael Malice]

I think Castle doctrine's for the cops, not for the hobos.

[Kurt Metzger]

They don't know anything about law. They. That's what they'd be. They have a house. If they do something you did, not his.

[Michael Malice]

Okay, let me read it to you right now. 99 year old grand Ayatollah Shirazi issued a fatwa calling vengeance against America duty for every Muslim worldwide. This is him.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, so. Oh, It's a good doctor.

[Michael Malice]

It's literally Mr. Burns.

[Kurt Metzger]

It looks like Mr. Burns is like disguised Mr. Scrub. Yeah. Now the thing, it's a duty for every Muslim around the world.

[Michael Malice]

I'm going to say something.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Michael Malice]

I don't think he's too long for this world.

[Kurt Metzger]

Mushashev, Shirazi. It depends when he outlives his usefulness to his handlers, which is CIA or Maasad.

[Michael Malice]

That's true, that's true.

[Kurt Metzger]

All the Muslim terrorists, by the way. All the terrorists. Oh, the guy that shot up 6th Street, I guess was gone. Have you seen him?

[Michael Malice]

Yeah, with the shirt.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Michael Malice]

Was it proper?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, I said it was something so on the nose. Clearly another Ryan Ruth MK Ultra, isn't it? Ruth?

[Michael Malice]

Who's that?

[Kurt Metzger]

Was it Ryan?

[Michael Malice]

Is that what shot Charlie?

[Kurt Metzger]

No, no, no. Ruth is one. That. The second Trump shooter.

[Michael Malice]

Okay, is that what. This is one at the. At the golf course where he. Where they caught him though. He didn't shoot anybody, right?

[Kurt Metzger]

You know about him, right? Yeah.

[Michael Malice]

What about him?

[Kurt Metzger]

He's one. Yet another guy. Like this guy. Who would you say it's. Their files are closed, you're sealed. You're not letting know. They've been arrested multiple times, but it's all sealed.

[Michael Malice]

Is that right?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. So that's a big red flag. I mean, besides the obvious, wow, a Muslim terror attack happened. So that guy said that and then.

[Michael Malice]

No, this was before he said that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, well, 60 was before they're gonna do. And I wouldn't be surprised. I'm not saying it is this, but I would not be surprised if that statement, because I've heard that before. It's the duty of every Muslim if that is not a hypnotic command like what. So I'm worried about the future of democracy. So once I have these people rattling around from those programs who are still. There's millions of them. So now the tv, if you. So in magic, they call it in magic the gathering. Do you play that game? No, no. In like occultism.

[Michael Malice]

Okay, yeah, okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

I just have Mark Pasio who's like a ex levee church priest in Philly. And boys, he's steaming mad at having explained this to people. It was great. I mean, he bulldozed me and I love him, I think he's great. But he explained the plane of cause and the plane of effect.

[Michael Malice]

Please.

[Kurt Metzger]

So you've heard of that?

[Michael Malice]

It's like I have not.

[Kurt Metzger]

Imagination sure is a plaintiff cause. Right. And then. And I always got a kick out of this being a writer on shows because I would write. Now that stupid thing I sent you, any half ass idea I have, it will manifest. I will make it manifest and I'll get obsessive and it will like be made right. When I write for shows, I would write stupid props and somebody had to make that.

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

So here I write something that probably last minute late, that I forgot my ass, but made me laugh. And all of a sudden it exists.

[Michael Malice]

I remember Johnny Carson had some prop and it was a, a chicken that the eggs came out of its mouth. And I remember as a kid this happened and he turns to me, goes, how much was this? And it was like two grand. It was, it was like, literally he's like, there's two bills. He's like, holy crap.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, it's really something. And so, so when I first heard this concept from him of the planet cause and effect, and I'm like, oh, wait a minute now. You know, it'd be a really good plain of cause if I was a dark occultist being owning my own newspaper.

[Michael Malice]

Oh yeah, of course.

[Kurt Metzger]

Or if I own the media. People say Jews run the meat. No Jew. One guy, one Jew bought Larry Ellison. Bought the whole thing.

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

You should be so lucky that multiple Jews are competing. You're not entitled to that. You lousy fucking boy Jew runs the media. Okay, sounds good. Sounds like it's gonna work out. Also, I think he's not a good. Between me and you, I think he's not a good Jew.

[Michael Malice]

Who? Larry Elson?

[Kurt Metzger]

I think he might be in fact some sort of hasatanist.

[Michael Malice]

I, I don't know and I don't, I don't trust any of these big corporate.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because what people still don't get. And it's. I try to explain it. Let's talk about the guy who came my show, who's a fan. He's always guy, but he wanted their mustaches, right? And I'm like, and I always I'll tell it. Talk to anybody, dude. And I'm like, yo, all that, don't put it on the Jews. First of all, if you're saying the Jews like that, like that Fuentes, creepy. You must work for Israel, asshole. Because anti Semitism is a fuel source that they need to commit those crimes. So I make a big point to say specifically fucking maniac Zionist. Because it's not the fucking same.

[Michael Malice]

But you know how you can prove that? Very easily. What if Bernie Sanders was president right now? I don't think we'd be bombing around.

[Kurt Metzger]

I think we would because I believe the story now though, from Twitter. I always believe.

[Michael Malice]

What story from Twitter?

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, one of the ex Monarch victims talked about seeing him being forced to Bernie on camera or they're going to kill his family. And they go, I've never seen a grown man cry like that in my entire life. This is an ex Monarch. Now that's just allegations.

[Michael Malice]

Holy crap. I did not know this.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, so Jimmy. So now it's so funny where I'm at now. And Jimmy, who's.

[Michael Malice]

Wait, but do you think besides that Bernie would have as aggressive a foreign policy as Trump would?

[Kurt Metzger]

They're not. The President's not in charge of that.

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[Kurt Metzger]

That's exactly.

[Michael Malice]

Here's what you can do and everything else. Don't worry about it. And I don't need to tell you that if you do worry about it, bad things are gonna happen to you and your family. It seems really apparent to me that that's the status quo in D.C. and you have this continuity of control that is going to be much more important than whoever's sitting behind the Resolute desk. Well, I don't see how.

[Kurt Metzger]

Continuity of government, they call it. Right.

[Michael Malice]

I don't see anyone can deny this.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, the President, there's like seven or eight top secrets about him.

[Michael Malice]

But do you disagree with what I said?

[Kurt Metzger]

Only that you're thinking of like way back when, like Truman. Got it now. Since Reagan. Since at least Reagan, but really probably since Woodrow Wilson. No, they're breeding him out of the womb. So Obama, his mother's a CIA whore

[Michael Malice]

and his dad was something with the CIA.

[Kurt Metzger]

Of course. And he's related to the Bushes. And he knew them as kids.

[Michael Malice]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

As a kid. Obama. Okay. They're all related. Some girls.

[Michael Malice]

Were you the one who told me that one of the Bushes was having dinner with John Hinckley's dad or something

[Kurt Metzger]

the day John Hinckley Jr. Was gonna have dinner with Neil Bush the night after?

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then Bush bailed out. I guess Sinclair Oil or something was their company. And so. Yeah, you sacrifice a child to baal.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then like in. When that kid jfk.

[Michael Malice]

Look at the. His brother.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, you. What? What about him?

[Michael Malice]

His brother died. He was. The brother was supposed to take over.

[Kurt Metzger]

So Sirhan Sirhan's the model dude.

[Michael Malice]

No, no, I don't mean sir. I said there was an elder Kennedy who was supposed to be the president and he died.

[Kurt Metzger]

I totally forgot about that.

[Michael Malice]

I had to tell you about this.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, I just forgot about. I don't. You know, the Kennedys hold. No. Even though it's a focal point of quite a lot of shit. I mean, they're not bootleggers, by the way. It's a different Kennedy. You know the thing. They said his dad was a bootlegger. He was not.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

I mean, maybe he was, but the guy that the Kennedy worked, that mob, some dude just wrote a book about it. It was very interesting. He found out that it was actually A very apocryphal tale. Because if you read Fritz Springmire's Illuminati books, which you should, and they show you these bloodlines, Kennedy is one of them. Okay, so these are lace curtain Irish, to say the least.

[Michael Malice]

What does that mean?

[Kurt Metzger]

The good Irish, you know, lace curtain Irish.

[Michael Malice]

I never heard that term.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, you know black Irish. Yeah, that's the less good one.

[Michael Malice]

It's always the less good one.

[Kurt Metzger]

I learned that from Scott Adams.

[Michael Malice]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Rest.

[Michael Malice]

Rest in power.

[Kurt Metzger]

Rest in power. Jimmy. Well, I always love Dilbert, but Jimmy likes Scott Adams. But we covered him so many times where I'm like, you saying he's a hypnotist made a lot of sense. Because when he said the thing about. Look, if you accept, you go. But you know, accept they have a government, they have a CIA, they're gonna have to lie to you. And this is after. But that's true, though, right? Okay, that'd be fine. If that's what they. I don't accept it. Number one, put it in writing and make it real clear and leave this.

[Michael Malice]

If the cops are cops, like, for example, cops were undercover. They can't all be like, if you. Are you a cop, you have to tell B.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right. But I expect the cops not to be killing the President of the United States.

[Michael Malice]

Right? That's all.

[Kurt Metzger]

The cops are the arm of the law. And that means the law cannot violate itself. But look, I gotta tell you, your anarchy thing, that I was like, how could this work, Mike? I must be an asshole, dude, because I was presuming this shit works. What a dickhead.

[Michael Malice]

I am presuming what shit work? Government.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. Because I started on the basis of, like, well, you gotta have something. No, you don't need none of these motherfuckers. Not one of them.

[Michael Malice]

I know.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, you know, I'm saying. You're right.

[Michael Malice]

I know. I'm just saying, like, I'm glad.

[Kurt Metzger]

I can't believe. Because, look, I can't deny a thing once I see it. Fuck, do I do that? Sure, but you're supposed to. And I resent, you know. So you know a lot about North Korea because they sold North Korea to us. Is something I give a shit about. And I did the way I would care about anybody being fucked up for no fucking.

[Michael Malice]

That's exactly why I care.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, and then once you've been there,

[Michael Malice]

it fucks their head. You see a hungry kid, it fucks with your head.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, well, now. Well, I show you that fucking video. You're a guy. I sent that to Because I was like, I hope this fake. I. I want it to not be real.

[Michael Malice]

I don't want to. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, good. I was telling her last night, like, it has fucked me up for the last week and a half. I'm like, fuck. It was like when Metallica's one video came out.

[Michael Malice]

So let me explain to people what you're referring to, and I'm not gonna show it. So when I was writing my book, the New Right, I had an issue with legal because they were saying I had to basically claim that Pizzagate was all a hoax. And I said, look, I'm not. I'm not saying this definitely happened. I'm not going to make accusations in writing that's going to lead to legal exposure. But there's stuff in there that is at the very least disturbing. And there's one photo I'm thinking of on Instagram that was on James Elephantis Instagram. It's a little girl, she's six or seven, and she has her arms on a desk and tape to it and taped Scotch tape. It wasn't Scotch tape. I think it doesn't really matter. Oh, and she's just looking at the camera, scared now. I don't. I can assume whatever Chuck E. Cheese, I could. You can make the argument for me. This is for fun. It's going to be really hard to pass that sniff test and tell me, oh, this is fine. And I see things like this all the time. I don't. So you.

[Kurt Metzger]

Exactly, exactly, dude.

[Michael Malice]

That's all I'm saying. You can't tell me this is common.

[Kurt Metzger]

There's something not cool about this.

[Michael Malice]

That's it. And you can't deny that. So you sent me this clip, which really screwed me up when you sent

[Kurt Metzger]

it to me, because the before and after is the thing. After and before.

[Michael Malice]

It's a girl who looks very similar, but she's obviously been a burn victim or something.

[Kurt Metzger]

Skinned.

[Michael Malice]

There's scars all around her face. She's half asleep, twitching. I didn't really look at it too hard because I can't.

[Kurt Metzger]

Me neither. But I'll. It's in my memory forever now, right?

[Michael Malice]

I never saw the Charlie video. I'm very happy. I haven't seen the Charlie video.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, I don't know how you avoid it.

[Michael Malice]

Because I went on social media, someone DM me about it and I'm like, I knew him. I'm like, I need to see what he's saying.

[Kurt Metzger]

Just like the challenger. For some reason. Some of these. It's required that you see it. That's called a message to the masses.

[Michael Malice]

It is. What about Trump getting shot?

[Kurt Metzger]

That's a message to the masses. Now there's. And I'm not saying who's right or wrong in this. People are like, oh, that was like a trick shot and fake. It could be. By the way, the level if you know Mozart, you know. Soy Mozart. That his tutor was Mesmer. No.

[Michael Malice]

Is that true?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. He wrote a concerto at 4 because William Mesmer was.

[Michael Malice]

Okay. Mesmerizing Father of mesmerism. Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

If you heard Kung fu. Fantastical tales, Mind body connection. That's what this shit's about. You cannot believe the things that they can do. They can split your consciousness up and put it in your limbs and make you dance. If you don't know how to dance. Yeah, I don't know how to do that. That's the. The things that these do.

[Michael Malice]

I was hypnotized. And, yep, they had me literally tap dancing on stage in front everyone in Buckdale University. Literally.

[Kurt Metzger]

Steve Byrne, the comic, A friend of mine was at Mothership. He does some act where, like, I don't really understand what it is, but I just look up at the screen and Steve's got eight guys lined up and this one old lady in a chair, and the guys are all sexy, dancing to this old lady. And I'm like. And I'd heard this some bit he does, and there's all these lights and Steve's voice. Steve Byrne has a great voice, dude. He. He has the voice from Dune. The voice is the thing that draws you in.

[Michael Malice]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's not.

[Michael Malice]

It's seduction. It's seductive.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right. And so I'm like, oh. And I asked him if he ever took a hit. He goes, no, he doesn't even know he's doing it. But he doesn't. And I believe him. 100. Because he's good. No, he. I don't think he knows. And I've known a long time. And Steve always got hot girls. He always was like. You know what I mean?

[Michael Malice]

Like, of course.

[Kurt Metzger]

And some people, you know, they call

[Michael Malice]

that, what, Natural pua.

[Kurt Metzger]

What's pua?

[Michael Malice]

Pickup artist.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yes, he was.

[Michael Malice]

That's the term in the culture. Natural pua.

[Kurt Metzger]

Let that. And I gotta say, he's probably a great role model for a lot of American guys with Asian blood that feel like they're not. Because Steve was crushing ass dude. Now he. I don't think he is, but he was, like, in his heyday. Yeah, yeah. He always had that charisma and It. And so people take classes to learn how to do it, right?

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

I conduct myself like. Like how I walk downstairs. You ever see what?

[Michael Malice]

Well, I had to take classes to get less charisma. Really worked. Nailed it.

[Kurt Metzger]

Can you recommend that? Please recommend that. I assume it's a woman or.

[Michael Malice]

It's. Tom woods is his name.

[Kurt Metzger]

What?

[Michael Malice]

Tom woods is his name.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, man.

[Michael Malice]

It just teaches you how to be completely unlikable.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm too hot. Oh, man. We gotta hook up after the show. So. You. You just saved my life, Mike.

[Michael Malice]

You aren't welcome.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, my God. I feel like the one. You're welcome,

[Michael Malice]

Kurt. I, I, I know.

[Kurt Metzger]

Anyway, we're talking about a skinned girl. So. Yeah, Jimmy says, because is this real? So when that Bernie thing had come out, Jimmy's like, I don't believe it. How would he even get his dick hard to do something like that? And I'm like, you didn't see Black Mirror? Remember Black Mirror, the first episode, Best episode. The prime minister has to fuck a pig.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

And he's like, crying and he's. And I'm. And I'm thinking of that. I want to hear this story. I'm like, that sounds like that Black Mirror episode. Then I'm thinking about, oh, that's right. I'm a. I used to write TV programs.

[Michael Malice]

Wait. For people that don't know. Let me follow your train of thought. The first episode of Black Mirror is a princess of the UK is kidnapped and the hostage taker says the ransom is. The prime minister has to fuck a pig. And everyone's like, oh, my God. This outrageous. I forget what the twist is.

[Kurt Metzger]

He does it. No, but it was a performance artist.

[Michael Malice]

No, no, you're skipping the part two. Something happens and then the polling flips. And then it was like 80% said he has to do it, and then he does it.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, well, I don't remember what the.

[Michael Malice]

At first it was like, don't you dare do it. This is outrageous. Then there was a twist. They're like, okay, now everyone wants you to do it.

[Kurt Metzger]

What was it?

[Michael Malice]

Right? There was some twist.

[Kurt Metzger]

Did the queen ask him to do it? I don't.

[Michael Malice]

There was something like he said something. They're like, oh, you. Now you have to.

[Kurt Metzger]

The pig, dude. I.

[Michael Malice]

That was the whole point. Like, at first everyone was normal, and

[Kurt Metzger]

then they're like, no, that's a vital part of the story. I don't.

[Michael Malice]

It was a vital.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, but I just remember him crying and he. They gave him Viagra. Yeah. So I'M like, jimmy, I don't think that would work.

[Michael Malice]

The Viagra, I think they probably have to give a shot in there.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, they got Viagra? Yeah. You know how Viagra shot works? Paulie Shore told me.

[Michael Malice]

No, no. There's a shot and then there's the Viagra pill. The pill's not going to do it. If you have to.

[Kurt Metzger]

The shot.

[Michael Malice]

The shot will do it. It's very different.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, I don't know what shot you do, because.

[Michael Malice]

No, there's a shot to your genitals.

[Kurt Metzger]

It doesn't. It's not a needle. It's like a turkey base you put in your dick hole.

[Michael Malice]

No.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yes. Paulie Shore explained it to me in detail.

[Michael Malice]

How did he know?

[Kurt Metzger]

He had, like, two girls with me. Goes, I'm getting this Viagra. He's not ashamed of it at all. I want to make that clear. I'm not, like, ratting him out. He explained it. And I go, what do you mean there's a needle? He goes, no, she was hilarious, dude. Because you put it down. I go, how much fucking coke did you do? I don't think he did coke. Look, it goes down your fucking urethra. Yeah, I mean, that's like a catheter. That's already sexy enough right there.

[Michael Malice]

I don't even know that's called sounding. What, you don't know about this? No, sounding is when guys stick things in the urethra.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, yeah, for astronaut school, we did that.

[Michael Malice]

Well, do they have catheters?

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't know what they. No, they don't do catheters. They have weird. Have astronaut diapers, like.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah, okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Astro diapers.

[Michael Malice]

Wait, so Paul, he puts a turkey baster up his urethra and squirts the medicine.

[Kurt Metzger]

He told me he had plans to. I don't know if he ever did. But, I mean, that's the best I haven't followed. Done my due diligence. Followed up on that one. But he. I remember him telling me, and I was just like, wait, you put a needle, like, because I'm first. I was like, you can't take the pill.

[Michael Malice]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

Snort it or something.

[Michael Malice]

Right, Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

You gotta rub it in there.

[Michael Malice]

Maybe.

[Kurt Metzger]

He goes, no, you just squirt it down your dick hole and you. I guess it works.

[Michael Malice]

Well, if you're just putting in the tip, it wouldn't be that hard. Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

It goes down, you're shooting.

[Michael Malice]

Right. But if you're squirting it, you just have the tip in. It wouldn't be that hard to put fluid in.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, not at all. It's just.

[Michael Malice]

It's not like a catheter there, you

[Kurt Metzger]

know, I'm probably just being a big baby. It probably works great.

[Michael Malice]

I'm sure it works great.

[Kurt Metzger]

I got a pig.

[Michael Malice]

Obviously it works.

[Kurt Metzger]

You know, pigs on the road. I. For free and not saving England. Not that many. Not as many as you think it's going to say.

[Michael Malice]

Is it zero? I hope it's zero.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, I banged about Denny's waitress that. No, no, wait. A Bob Evans waitress that had a great body, but the head of Tom Wopat from Dukes of Hazzard. That's I believe, Luke Duke.

[Michael Malice]

What was. What was your move?

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, nothing. She. She came to show to me and I was like, okay.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

I did a lot of coke back then, dude.

[Michael Malice]

But how'd you her then if you're drinking on coke?

[Kurt Metzger]

I wasn't a Coke when I did it. She was on Beth though, so she really could.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, is that a thing like. Oh, that's right. So they all do math because they could fuck for hours.

[Kurt Metzger]

Chem sex. You. That's that fudgeing psychopath Democrat donor Ed Buck was getting blackmail.

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right. Male black hookers. He wanted them passed out and he wanted to shoot meth in them.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, can we wait? Wait. There's something I do you survive me. Something important because I want to get back to the Epstein stuff because I think it's very key one. So one of the other things that I didn't. That everyone seemed. Not everyone. A lot of people seem to believe that is necessary for this Epstein's files dropped is that all these Democrats all of a sudden spontaneously started caring about

[Kurt Metzger]

kids getting hurt because they know Trump can't release.

[Michael Malice]

Hold on. But here's how I know that that's not true. If people are just skeptical because as you know, and some people watching this will have forgotten, the longest serving Republican speaker of the House ever was Dennis Hastert.

[Kurt Metzger]

And is he the longest ever?

[Michael Malice]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh my.

[Michael Malice]

And Dennis Hastert went to jail in his 70s after speaking speak of the House because stuff he did with underage boys, maybe their college. That's how he got the job as. As a high school or college coach. I don't remember. And Democrats who do not hesitate at any time if someone's like a Christian conservative, be like, you had an affair, you're a drug addict, you're a hypocrite. Not one ever ran a photo of this person shaking hands with Dennis faster. They never brought him up at all. They Brought up Herbert Hoover for decades. They brought up Nixon for decades, Bush for decades. They never dropped his name once. And now he's a trivia question.

[Kurt Metzger]

I was told he was intelligence. That's. I'm being costa with Epstein.

[Michael Malice]

But the point is, who are these

[Kurt Metzger]

guys that don't get in trouble, but move up the ladder, but somehow they

[Michael Malice]

never bring him up? So do not tell me that all of a sudden Democrats care about these kids who are being trafficked.

[Kurt Metzger]

The larger issue is if you still think, look, you. You will probably know where we get left and right from.

[Michael Malice]

From the French.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, the French Parliament. My question would be, why are we doing that? Why are. Why is there a sheep pen for me to go in?

[Michael Malice]

Right. Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

And. And so people go, I didn't leave the Democrats. The Democrats left me, asshole. What are you talking about? Like my box that I wanted to be in my veal cage. My veal cage left me. I was supposed to be in that veal cage getting all soft and. And biteable and chewable.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

And then the veal cage up and left me. And now I'm out here in the wilderness not being devoured a lot. Fuck you and your left and right, asshole. Who am I talking to anyway? But you see what I'm saying? Like, why do we have that? So the fundamental assumption that everyone should question is why do you say left and right? That doesn't strike you as insane? Two ass. I got two ass cheeks. I know that. Is that what it is? Like, they both cover up for the hole. Right?

[Michael Malice]

But so I. What I want to know is the other. We were kind of disagreeing a little bit because my point is that all this stuff they sat on for years, the good stuff, they're going to redact. But your point is they're not redacting. That's the thing. So let's talk about that.

[Kurt Metzger]

And I correct me, I don't want to call it the good stuff.

[Michael Malice]

You know, Smoking Guns.

[Kurt Metzger]

You ask if people saw the Nickelodeon molester documentary, was it good? I should say, like that people. Yeah, I wish I didn't ask you. Yeah, so. So no, the outrageous stuff is in there now. There's a lot of journalist heroes like the great Michael Tracy, who we met in that festival, the Icarus festival of. In Rutherford, of journalists.

[Michael Malice]

And I've had him on the show at his point. And I brought this up, and his

[Kurt Metzger]

point is that he's probably a pedo. Is who will. Jay Z. Well, that's the. Being charitable, I would say he's probably a Hasbara something. But Jenna was like that guy likes girls that age. That's why he's defending it. But okay. But that's just speculation.

[Michael Malice]

Hold on. I think that's a little unfair because sometimes. What if he just wants to be a contrarian?

[Kurt Metzger]

Fuck you. Oh, on eating children. I don't. I might be in a purity spiral but I feel like Fuck you, Michael fucking Tracy. You fuck. Yo, I'm. My joke about this shit is I didn't see the Nickelodeon molester documentary because I'm backed up on molester documentaries. Really? Child. But I'm being cleaning it up for our society. You can't say the name of the crime. Bleep this probably. Yo. Does anybody notice? It's everything. Has anybody noticed? This is why you're right about anarchy. Because all of the institutions that any. Oh, remember I told you about Lord Mountbatten. I believe you had never heard it. There is a filthy pederast.

[Michael Malice]

Wikipedia people don't look him up.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's on his Wikipedia.

[Michael Malice]

Of course.

[Kurt Metzger]

How bad of a pederast you have to be that MI5 can't clear your Wikipedia. Are they owned? Okay, so. So we're taught. And now I realize because I can never figure this out. Dude. Why people do education now. You know, I'm. I'm. I'm an astronaut that rose from the bottom. I'm not one of these Silver Tang spoon. Okay. But it's amazing. Academia trains you to compartmentalize.

[Michael Malice]

That's true, of course.

[Kurt Metzger]

And that's why we have autistic people now. Because by the way, if you think they didn't. I think they made people like that on purpose. Why?

[Michael Malice]

Make people like what?

[Kurt Metzger]

Autistic temple. Remember Temple Grandin? The leader could talk to cows?

[Michael Malice]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because she realized this went dawned on me. She goes, I realized I could think like the cows, right? I'm like, boy, that must be very useful to a race of lizard people to have humans who think like cows. But they're smart. They're not. They're smart hearted. They're not the bad kind.

[Michael Malice]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

They're the smart kind. So let's review Love on the Spectrum. We were watching it. It disturbed the shit out of me.

[Michael Malice]

Kurt.

[Kurt Metzger]

What? You produce it.

[Michael Malice]

Not I live it. Not only did I see Love on the spectrum, but the guy from Clemson, what was his name?

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't remember.

[Michael Malice]

The one who worked at the hotel and he always talked like this.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Michael Malice]

He they for. There's an Australian version, an American version. In both versions they set up a Highly autistic young man with a girl with down syndrome, which. You're the comic. I'll let you fill in the blanks about. That's like matching up someone in a wheelchair with someone who's an astronaut.

[Kurt Metzger]

I guess that is, like, my joke about. I was trying to explain the concept of smart tardage.

[Michael Malice]

The. The restaurant he went to in Clemson. I was in Clemson, and I took a photo of myself at his table. So, yes, I'm a fan of Love on the spectrum, so. And it's also kind of funny because on the show, there's a few, like, really cute girls who are just barely autistic. And it's like, I can't find a boyfriend like you can.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah.

[Michael Malice]

You are the ideal catch because you're not, like, chick annoying and you have, like, fun hobbies and you're, like, amiable and you're friendly, you know, have a chip on your shoulder. You can have.

[Kurt Metzger]

Literally, you get a little bit of a chip on their shoulders. And I was like. But. But no, they don't.

[Michael Malice]

They're like. They're sad about it. They're like, I don't want to have a boyfriend. So.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, that's great. So this is. Ties in transhumanism, by the way.

[Michael Malice]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

This is what transhumanism is all about. So let's review what we got here. People who are very.

[Michael Malice]

By the way, I got to add one more thing to autism. Trust you. I went to the. The MAGA event here. Maha. Excuse me. Event here in Austin for.

[Kurt Metzger]

To say glycerophy is not that bad. Actually, no, he was.

[Michael Malice]

He was opposed to it.

[Kurt Metzger]

Right now he's. We can't just take it out because blah, blah, blah.

[Michael Malice]

Because Trump, he was known. He said in his speech that he was arguing with the president about it.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And he'll.

[Michael Malice]

He'll give in the press. President's boss. Point being, he said when he. In the 70s, autism rates was like 1 in 300.

[Kurt Metzger]

Originally. I heard that from him. The point where he goes, there's nobody in the university. You know, some people in their 80s and 90s with a helmet, they can't listen. They can't hear Velcro rip.

[Michael Malice]

And now it's like, like 13 or something higher.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. And so.

[Michael Malice]

And he goes, genetics are the same.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's exactly right. That's exactly right. And so we got people. You can program a sexuality. You could say you're a girl now. Okay.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

But they're not stupid. They just focus on what they focus on. And that's great because as an employer, as a job creator myself, I need people to focus on the task at hand. Almost to a, some would say retarded degree. Yeah, but they. I don't want to be retarded. I want to be really smart while they retardedly focus in one area. Okay. I don't want distracted with flirting and whatever. I'll tell them what gender they are. As a matter of fact, I would prefer that thing. I'll tell them they're a woman. Maybe I get a bonus for hiring women and it can never get pregnant and I got to pay for it, right? Any product they love. Oh my God, you got a vinyl Thor fucking Dot Labuba. Whatever the fuck these people buy.

[Michael Malice]

It's called a maquette. I will not have you do any tart shaving on my show. The term is a maquette.

[Kurt Metzger]

So if you can fuck up Star wars for 10 years straight, just 20, God, you just fuck it up. Well, yeah, but now I've learned to live with the prequels, you know?

[Michael Malice]

Remember the prequels are the worst thing about Star Wars.

[Kurt Metzger]

They're still not good.

[Michael Malice]

No, but the point is there was a time when that was the worst thing about Star Wars. And here we are now.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's amazing that Star wars went from an aspiring Joseph Campbell inspired MK Ultra myth to tell young men about the hero's journey and conquering a space egg with their Pete laser penis. But now it's always imbalanced, overly masculine or feminine. Always. Because it's program. It's programming to. Anyway, they love it. They're gonna buy all the products even if it sucks ass. They're smart. But the. That I'm telling you that you would. They'll go, you. You're not an expert. Because they have absolute. And it's not that they're smug. I. I asked Scott Rouse, the body language guy. Like what?

[Michael Malice]

You know, body language.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, he.

[Michael Malice]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. I love that dude, Scott. And he really is interesting how he explains it because a lot of people think they can read body language and, and you know, it's not like how you think. And it's also not like he. He's explains it in a very reasonable way. Okay. And you know, I. They're like a psychopath. The psychopath doesn't. You know. I was watching a special documentary about high functioning autism. This pyrotechnic guy for rock concerts, he's a genius, but he can't be in meetings. He's gonna be like, shut. You're an idiot. He can't he can't.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

But they need him because he. Right. He's like house or something. Well, there's this one scene. There's this one.

[Michael Malice]

It's not. It's. It's Lupus.

[Kurt Metzger]

I just mean his attitude.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, he's just calling everything Lupus.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. It's Scott Adams framework.

[Michael Malice]

Every frame, it's Lupus.

[Kurt Metzger]

So he. There's a scene of him. I'll never. It's the funniest thing. The guy's wheeling his mother in a wheelchair.

[Michael Malice]

The framework. There was some great fireworks at the concert. Reframe. I have Lupus.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right. Positive thinking.

[Michael Malice]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

So. So he's got his mother by the train. This autistic engineering guy from. Rock on. He's wheeling her down by the train. Drags because he likes. Drains because he likes trains. I think everybody's referencing this scene, honestly, when they make that joke.

[Michael Malice]

There's a twist.

[Kurt Metzger]

Goes, I'm cold. I want to go home. Is. Why would you want to go home? The train's coming. So I'm like, okay, that sounds almost psychopathic, but. No, it's.

[Michael Malice]

But it's next door to each other mentally.

[Kurt Metzger]

But these are people that want to connect with humans, but they have a problem. Yes. In their filter of connecting.

[Michael Malice]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

A psychopath. It wants to pretend they're connected.

[Michael Malice]

Correct. So.

[Kurt Metzger]

So that's an important distinction now since we're run by psychopaths. And you know, here's the. Now the rit. The ultra wealthy have been. I mean, if you ever saw Precious or whatever they've been brutally training their kids to be, have expanded.

[Michael Malice]

Wait, Precious, the black girl movie?

[Kurt Metzger]

Dude, Hermetic. I hate how much what's that do

[Michael Malice]

with rich people, though? That's what I'm not following.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, I mean, Precious got enough to eat, but I'm just saying, Port really put.

[Michael Malice]

She had to steal. She had to steal this fried chicken. Remember? She ran away.

[Kurt Metzger]

So at the top and bottom of society.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

So my friend who's from old money, she's like telling about. We have a saying. Eating is for poor people.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay. And so. And when she tells me that friends, I'm like, just. My mouth is a gape. They're all in school. Shooter pills from when they're five to deal with the fact that their life is wrong.

[Michael Malice]

Right. Yeah. Right. Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because they're rich, everything's good. Right. Okay. So when they tell me things, you. I mean, I know you've met people like this. They're telling you about their life. And you're like, do you think anything you told me is not the most insane thing you've ever said?

[Michael Malice]

That's the other thing. They don't, they don't have a concept of normalcy.

[Kurt Metzger]

Of course. Why would you?

[Michael Malice]

You would. Because you, you know why? Because you'd want to try to pass, right? And they're not even, they don't even know how to pass.

[Kurt Metzger]

They don't know, right?

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[Michael Malice]

Let's get back to the show. I remember a girl I went to college with thought you could just go to an ATM and take out money. No, like literally anyone can just go to and just get money.

[Kurt Metzger]

You know what my ex told me about Israel?

[Michael Malice]

What?

[Kurt Metzger]

Because I was with that girl for 10 years, right? She goes, and it was really a really.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, the one, the. Yeah, okay, yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Such an insight into trauma based mind control because clearly her mother, who was the one from, is a racky Jew. That was like the, you know, just the worst. A dad was clearly so beaten down.

[Michael Malice]

Wait, the mom is the worst or the wreckage is the worst?

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, her mom was okay, yeah. Partially because being wrecked. The dad was from Long island and. But I didn't understand what I was looking at at the time. But now I understand it. It's utter programming. The things she described to me about her childhood were not physical abuse of any kind.

[Michael Malice]

Okay?

[Kurt Metzger]

Complete mental abuse to a child who's smart. Where you don't talk to your five year old for years. No, two weeks. Because they made you mad.

[Michael Malice]

No, no, no. That's torture.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, well, they're. Hey, did that to her. I won't get all into. I'm just trying to explain a very specific thing.

[Michael Malice]

That's horrible.

[Kurt Metzger]

So she tells me a story about it, Israel. She goes, yeah, they can't have. And this is what she told me.

[Michael Malice]

Okay, sure.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't know if this is even currently true.

[Michael Malice]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

She's. Yeah, like it's hard to have ATM machines in Israel because someone will like put a chain on it and steal the machine. And I go, what? She says, yeah, because Israelis, like, you know, they're really practical because they're like desert people. And I go, well, wait, what?

[Michael Malice]

It's not practical. It's getting the money out that's hard.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. It's not easier to get money.

[Michael Malice]

It's not practical.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's how I get it, practical. You know, my astronaut money, I just go pick it up.

[Michael Malice]

My Space buddy.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's easier than going to space.

[Michael Malice]

My moon bucks.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, going to space is easy.

[Michael Malice]

All you got to do is just get the moon rocks and sell money, Bay.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's what I do. It works.

[Michael Malice]

But please, I.

[Kurt Metzger]

So. But the. The mind control of going to rationalize something so insane that you just said that you said. I don't think this about. This is what they said to me. I go, well, it's because they're really practical. And I think of it now, it really echoes, because when I bring up to people like, dude, Lev, and I like Lev. I really do. He hooked me up with Jason Giorgiani. The. The. The guy went on my show, and he's a. I don't know his last name. Something. Something with too many consonants. On. Of syllables.

[Michael Malice]

Okay?

[Kurt Metzger]

That's what we should send to Ukraine, by the way, vowels. So he wants me to talk about the Epstein files, okay, with this guy, Vlad Davidson, with a Z, from the Atlantic Council.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

[Kurt Metzger]

So it was like some kind of ambush.

[Michael Malice]

Okay. By the way, there was an article about either Iran or. Or Trump, and the professor they quoted was literally a Rothschild.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, well, they're very. And I'm just like a really good family that really.

[Michael Malice]

I'm just like, holy crap, I wish

[Kurt Metzger]

people would leave that family alone.

[Michael Malice]

Haven't they been through enough?

[Kurt Metzger]

Haven't they been enough with Marjorie Taylor Greene stalking them?

[Michael Malice]

Wait, so talk about Vlad. The Atlantic.

[Kurt Metzger]

So I come on, and it's. Instead of telling me, epstein, first this piece, this is where I. I. Because I lose my temper when I know someone's friend with me, okay? Now, smarter man, okay? I'm just a. I'm just a humble astronaut. I'm not, you know, one of these guys. I'm not one of these pickup artist guys that works for Andrew Tate. You understand that? I just. The guy I go to punch in, I go to space, I come home, this guy, he goes first, he tells me MC is just a bad pimp and whatever. Okay, why are you telling me this then? They're showing me pictures of him holding up. Liv took the podcast down, but a fan at least clipped the part where this admits the Atlantic Council guy. Vlad.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, no. Yeah. Lev took it down on behalf of life.

[Michael Malice]

Yes. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Vlad is a bandera, which I didn't understand at first, okay? But. But later, he shows me a picture of him with Zelinsky. Him holding up a red and black flag with a Magi David on it.

[Michael Malice]

Okay? Red and black. What's red and black in this Context.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't know. What is this? I go, what country is that? Jubania?

[Michael Malice]

Yeah. What is red, black?

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, it's the right sector. It's a Nazi group out of Ukraine.

[Michael Malice]

You know Ukraine, Yeah, of course. Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Their rationale is, a rabbi in Ukraine said they're cool now. So they're cool.

[Michael Malice]

Wait, I've been kind of. Wait, wait. So there's a Jewish Nazi group in Ukraine.

[Kurt Metzger]

There's a Jewish division of right sector now. Why? Because.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, so it's like a Nazi flag, but instead the swastikas is a Star of David in the middle.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right.

[Michael Malice]

Holy shit. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

In Ukraine, because by the way, this guy, I looked him up, his dad is from Kyrgyzstan. And he. I'm gonna say he's. My guess would be he's a fucking mobster because it describes him as a king maker.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, yeah, okay. That's just.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, if somebody calls you a kingmaker, that means you're a mob guy.

[Michael Malice]

Right?

[Kurt Metzger]

So his son's on the Atlantic Council. And we got. As soon as I felt that he was like, so. So I go. He shows me a picture of him as Lindsay. And I go. I go, hey, oh, let me do some blow, you guys. When I'm in New York. Next time, just be. I'm trying to be like, I still understand what's happening, right? He goes, goes, oh, I don't think Zelensky does coke now that he became in power. Now he's in power, he doesn't do coke anymore. I go, yeah, because that's when cokeheads stopped doing coke, when they have the added pressures of power. You fucking. So anyway, someone recorded. So he basically admitted Zelensky had done coke. He clearly still does.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, wow.

[Kurt Metzger]

He's going to the way it's going to end in Ukraine, which it should have already done. Thanks. Trump is Lindsay comes out like Scarface, Garface and just shoots up everybody. And he goes, say hello to my little friend. Then Sean Penn comes out.

[Michael Malice]

How do you think Ukraine's gonna end?

[Kurt Metzger]

Never. I thought it might end. It's gonna end how Russia wants it. But I used to say that. But now it's like, no, I guess we'll just spend the last of our resources keeping that going. Oh, we still pay the Taliban, by the way. Every week we pay the Taliban. They can't strike that legislation. So remember when you mentioned Joe Biden and how we left and all. We betrayed all them. It's way worse than you're saying.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, and by the one more thing to that and we just stopped talking about it. So there's all this stuff about how bad Afghanistan is going to be after we leave, and they just never mentioned again.

[Kurt Metzger]

Do you know they passed a law that women weren't allowed to speak in public? Why do you think? Because women were being too funny, probably. By Allah. What if my neighbor finds.

[Michael Malice]

But they must have done.

[Kurt Metzger]

My wife is.

[Michael Malice]

Hold on. They must have some bad things.

[Kurt Metzger]

Can they not make a burqa for my wife's savage comebacks?

[Michael Malice]

They really did that?

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, I. I mean, I. I'm so funny to me. What, that women can't speak in public?

[Michael Malice]

Yes.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'm just. Remember I said this to you. You go and you say. You mean like. Oh, all I'm saying is we don't need another slut walk. No, maybe it's a different thing. Anyway, so Afghanistan. So remember we disabled our equipment that we left.

[Michael Malice]

Disabled? Yeah, we left the keys in the ignition.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right. Now at the time. See, this is why I'm naive. Even though everybody, like, at the time, like, oh, they just left. No, dude, that's payment.

[Michael Malice]

Of course it was payment.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's the lithium. It's a. For the. Previously, there's a lot of lithium triangles. But originally, before the one in. Where we overthrew in Bolivia and whatever, Afghanistan is filled with lithium. So not only. So those. Those people that helped the troops, they weren't. It wasn't carelessness. That's the big lie.

[Michael Malice]

Oh, God.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right. We gave them as payment because first of all, we're going to want to train new radical Islamic terrorists there, because that's us and Israel and England. We make. I didn't understand this. When they say we create terrorists, I thought it meant because we're like, mean. No, they like putting together Spice Girls. We create terrorists, like, that way. And because they're. First of all, terrorism. How does that work? How is that beneficial? Oh, here's an example. The first false flag that I know of. I'm sure they go way back, but I thought, like, some people mistakenly say Israel's like, the originator of that. No. Do you know Guy Fawkes Day in England?

[Michael Malice]

Yeah, of course.

[Kurt Metzger]

The fifth of. No, Remember, remember, it rhymes. So that's a good program.

[Michael Malice]

And the plot was the Gunpowder Plot, supposedly there. So the Guy Fox. People don't know his face is for V Vendetta use. Anonymous uses his mask during the 1400s. 1500.

[Kurt Metzger]

I don't remember when it was 1500s. King James, the gay King.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

So translated, the King James oh, sorry. I was getting heated up in this King James.

[Michael Malice]

So he and a bunch of co conspirators, I think they were Catholic or vice.

[Kurt Metzger]

They were all idiots, right?

[Michael Malice]

They had supposedly had a bunch of gunpowder under Parliament and they were going to set fire and blow up Parliament, kill everyone. And the gunpowder was fought, was found, he was hanged. And now every year they celebrate Guy Fox day.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well he jumped and hung himself before they could draw.

[Michael Malice]

Is that the claim?

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, right. So that's what the thing is. He cheated that the torture man by hanging himself.

[Michael Malice]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

And the. And they give the kids a thing. What a weird Christmasy thing that is. Anyway, it's a false flag. The Catholics were the Muslims of their day, right?

[Michael Malice]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Gay King James and his Freemason Bible that fucking idiots to this day think is the only good Bible. Fuck the King James. I hope you're offended I said that. Fuck you. The King James Bible is from a gay guy who wanted to really make you like royalty, okay. Who was persecuting Catholics like they were Islam, right? So guess what? They did the same Sirhan. This shit goes way back, dude. They get six idiots like the FBI does now with fake terror plots that they create on purpose. That's what they do, the FBI makes People don't know what entrapment means. Entrapment they think is like, oh no, no, no.

[Michael Malice]

There's this case out of New York. There was this like 20 year old Muslim kid at NYU or something. It was. People can look this up, assume I'm lying. Just assume everything we're saying is like do your own research, right? Or people call it reading.

[Kurt Metzger]

I. When they said don't do your own research, I was happy because I don't read. I don't believe in him.

[Michael Malice]

And he. The, the, the feds got a hold of him and we're ginning him up to try to do something. And then when he's like, yeah, okay, then like gotcha. I think they even gave him weapons.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah. The Boston. Yes they can. Actually the Whitmer kidnapping was where they, they had to let the guys go because there's actually like three conspirators, right?

[Michael Malice]

Wasn't the FBI trapping themselves?

[Kurt Metzger]

Everybody else was agents from the FBI.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yo, if you were, what do you think? That's good.

[Michael Malice]

Here's another thing that people understand. Assemble but don't understand it on others. Different intelligence agencies learn from each other, right? So when we were tortured, we. Sorry. The American government was tortured, people.

[Kurt Metzger]

I helped a little. Just full disclosure.

[Michael Malice]

Well, they were torturing American People in Gitmo, they were using KGB manuals to try to figure out how to break them.

[Kurt Metzger]

I didn't know that.

[Michael Malice]

Yes. Look this up. Because they didn't know how to do it. So they're like, okay, let's. Let's figure out for the big boys,

[Kurt Metzger]

that's where Desantis came from. The JAG attorney who helped them torture better.

[Michael Malice]

Is that true? I did not know that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, hold on.

[Michael Malice]

Let me just finish this one point. So what the Stasi did in East Germany is you would have a group of, like, young kids, and then they'd have a. Someone who's an accomplice join, and he'd be like, hey, we should overthrow the government. And they're like, you're crazy. Get out of here. They're like, oh, you're associated with terrorists. We're round you all up. Well, it's actually a very simple tactic, and it's a very effective one. And why wouldn't our agencies use the same tactics that are affecting other countries?

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, why wouldn't they? Since we saved all those Nazi. As you remember, when was it the Reichstag burns down by some. An antifa.

[Michael Malice]

That's right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Burned down the Reichstag. Yeah. Now, when I heard. When I used to. You know, antifa is such a construct of a thing now that they're trying to draw in gender blob crazies.

[Michael Malice]

Right, right.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's all Feds. You're an idiot if you think. It's not that.

[Michael Malice]

But also, now they have grandmas going on social media saying, I'm antifa. You saw that, right?

[Kurt Metzger]

Because they don't know what anything.

[Michael Malice]

Of course. That's my point.

[Kurt Metzger]

But I'm gonna help that Nigerian prince get his rightful throne.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

They don't know what anything is. Because, honestly, God, Mike, I think if you settle into an ID ideology that you're like, this is my ideology. I think you get plaque in your brain. Like, the people have, like, sedentary brains where they.

[Michael Malice]

That's what Scott. Adam's point is. People pick a tribe, their views are assigned to them. That's explicitly what Scott said.

[Kurt Metzger]

I know. And he picked one and then was. Then he died saying not. I mean, Trump sent him. I think they tried to give him the treatment.

[Michael Malice]

It worked for six months. They gave him six months.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, well, the insurance company had a point, didn't they? Because they lose that money and he's not going to live anyway.

[Michael Malice]

Well, I'm glad he had his extra time.

[Kurt Metzger]

As am I. It would be nice if we all could get it, but we can't waste money on stupid shit like that for everyone. Just hypnotists that are in league with the regiment.

[Michael Malice]

Folks, head over to malice.locals.com where for five bucks, you could send in questions to each week's guests.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, by the way, Epstein files. We know jerky's people because you don't

[Michael Malice]

tell me it's not people.

[Kurt Metzger]

I told you it is people.

[Michael Malice]

You tell me in writing it's not kids.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, I said it's. Oh, no, no. It not necessarily kids. It's just human meat. Okay, so it could be adult meat. Okay, it's probably kid me, but don't. I just wanted to be nuanced about.

[Michael Malice]

Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna pull up your text because maybe I misunderstood something because I was

[Kurt Metzger]

really getting to the bottom.

[Michael Malice]

I was relieved. Well, I was relieved what you said, because I don't want it to be as bad as it is.

[Kurt Metzger]

I'll eat a man, but I don't eat kids. Okay? And I draw the line there. And that we wouldn't even let you in NASA if we knew you eat kids. You eat people. Sure. You hunt them. Sometimes bring black people to an island.

[Michael Malice]

You said. Okay, one. No one freezes. Oh, I was wrong. You were right.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yeah, I wouldn't.

[Michael Malice]

You said no one freezes jerky. No one redacts legitimate beef jerky emails. It's human meat. It does not mean baby meat meat. You said that. I. I stand corrected.

[Kurt Metzger]

I send a lot of beef jerk emails, and it's very clear. I leave the name and address of everybody who made the jerky. There's nothing about sending it to a lab to figure out what's in it. There's nothing about me switching back to normal food. The emails, dude, don't look if you're hungry, don't read those Epstein files is all I want to get across.

[Michael Malice]

Jesus.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because they talk about pizza a lot. Dude.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

You think billionaires would eat better? Wouldn't you? Grape soda. That's what billionaires like the richest, most powerful people want. Just as humble. Netflix and chill with some pizza and grape soda. Michael, Tracy's right. I'm having a moral panic. That little oily man who looks like he. He leaked celebrity nudes 10 years ago. He looks like the kind of guy that has celebrity nudes and leaks them on Reddit. That's what he looks like. Okay, I have to say, what a great point. A moral pay. The reason he's doing this, I just watch a clip of him. Okay? It got upwards of 20 likes. Okay. And thousands of views. He goes. He goes. Why am I doing this? Because I hate moral panics more than I hate cannibalism and child grape soda. Wow. Tell me. Oh, and guess who is working with him now. Who? Signal boosting him. Who? Batai Bacha Ungar.

[Michael Malice]

Who's that?

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, from the hill. The. The Zionist guys tell me that Israel worked with Epstein. By the way, Epstein's alive. Don't worry, guys, relax. He's not dead. Anyway, we can all stop fighting about suicide. Thank God he's here. I always said this. If he works for. If he's dead, then he worked for Israel. If he's alive, Israel worked for him.

[Michael Malice]

Explain that.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, he's the. The mouth of. Oh, you don't know about Lord of the Rings. But if.

[Michael Malice]

Yes, I do. I don't like it. I know about it.

[Kurt Metzger]

You're right to not like it. It. Because that guy's a piece of shit. So it's the mouth of Sauron, the guy who speaks for the evil. So, yeah, yeah, that's what Epstein was for the Rothschilds. And we know that for a fact in the Steve Bannon interview, which is heavily. They only gave you, like, part of it.

[Michael Malice]

That's true.

[Kurt Metzger]

What?

[Michael Malice]

The Steve Bannon interviews. Edit down.

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, Burmese is the guy who first put me on tour. Banda goes, don't you have an island of. Dr. Moreau of genetic. That's in the preview.

[Michael Malice]

Holy crap.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, dude, go on.

[Michael Malice]

I'm not arguing with you. I'm just shocked.

[Kurt Metzger]

If you look up Kyle Dunnigan and me, the talk down where it's Sly Sloan and me, and Sly wants to be a newsman. I took the previews of the Epstein files interview right from way back when. That never came out. And Bannon was on the show and Jimmy asked him. Bannon. I can't even tell you what he said. It was like. It just made us move along.

[Michael Malice]

Whatever it was, it was a common legit, like, word salad.

[Kurt Metzger]

No, it was way better than that. It was like, very. Like. It didn't sound dumb. But also, it was so, like. Okay, some business reasons, I guess.

[Michael Malice]

He ran some NLP on you.

[Kurt Metzger]

100% he did.

[Michael Malice]

It worked. He was prepared. Well, he's not dumb. No one's gonna call Steve Bannon.

[Kurt Metzger]

Julian Dory is probably right. He's probably a spy. This dude Julian Doyle's podcast, he did. He's. I still don't know the details, but I. I mean, I bet you he's right. Anyway, Bannon asked him. He Goes. He goes, what do you like this thing of you love me too or time's up is just another one of your sop? I don't want to SOP means. But he goes, no, no.

[Michael Malice]

I stand operating procedure.

[Kurt Metzger]

Oh, he's a spy. Yeah. So. So I see. No, I've. I've always been a big supporter of Time's up. It's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. So we put it in a thing of like the more you know about where slides are. Voiceover. And I was like, is that. He goes, yeah, that's my voice. Anyway, that's cut out. But in the first four minutes of the interview that you can find. Yeah. He lays. He gives away everything.

[Michael Malice]

Who banned it? Or abstinence.

[Kurt Metzger]

He goes, When I was 30, I was appointed by Henry Kissinger.

[Michael Malice]

And he says this in the first

[Kurt Metzger]

four minutes of the interview. No one picked up on it for some reason. I don't know.

[Michael Malice]

But holy. Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

David Rockefeller, you know the one that anarchy Lucas was a child sex slave of. Right. That David, who looks like a cartoon drawing of a devil. Him and Kissinger, another great, great man, appointed Jeffrey Epstein to the Trilateral Commission.

[Michael Malice]

Is that true?

[Kurt Metzger]

Wow. Do you remember yourself at 30? I remember me at 30. And I was not the astronaut. I am now. I'll tell you that. I don't know if I could have. Why would a 30 year old. Now I won't even listen to a 30 year old dude's thoughts unless they're so fucking smart. 9 times out of 10 they're fucked hards.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah, of course.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay. He's a representative of the Rothschilds. Aren't going to show up to the trilateral thing. He is their mouth now. The Trilateral Commission, as we know. Oh, that's Micah from Morning Joe Show. Morning. Micah. Her dad. Big new Brzezinski.

[Michael Malice]

He was Secretary of State for Kent Carter.

[Kurt Metzger]

That's right. And he wrote in his Techno State book which includes Goes back to Trans. I know it seems like I wander, but I'm bringing it all back together. Dude. The thing he wrote about the future, this is in the 70s. He wrote this about we're going to have. Where people just follow influencers, basically.

[Michael Malice]

Holy shit.

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, so none of this is. Everybody acts. Michael Parente is dead now. But what a great quote about how people understand conspiracies. If it's the mafia or some farmers or a union.

[Michael Malice]

Right.

[Kurt Metzger]

But once you get in the top levels. Oh, it's just forces of nature, right?

[Michael Malice]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

And fate and I Watch people do. Rogan has done this with me. I love Road, by the way. You. If you don't like him, you. I can't say it enough to people, but I love that he's one of the most stand up dudes I've met in this up business. But I watch him do this where he's like, there's nobody. He said it three times to himself. There's nobody in charge. While we were talking one time I go, are you hypnotizing yourself? Yes. Everybody is doing. Everyone has been trained to hypnotize themselves. Doesn't make you a bad person. Means you're from here.

[Michael Malice]

Wait, hold on. Like, to his point, I'm gonna. I'm gonna just steal it. Like we saw during COVID very explicitly. Powerful international elites coordinating across the entire world to have plans with Epstein.

[Kurt Metzger]

It's in the files.

[Michael Malice]

But my point is that's in plain sight. You're telling me that they only did in 2021?

[Kurt Metzger]

In plain sight is a saying. In fact, if look up Jay Parker. Anybody watching Jay Parker is from Arden, Delaware, his fan. So Arden, Delaware is an artist colony. And they're like a Georgian tax cult of king. I don't understand it.

[Michael Malice]

But George, like Henry George, probably.

[Kurt Metzger]

Yes.

[Michael Malice]

Okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Buzz Ware, according to Jay Parker, who ran his mother was the founder of the communist American party. Okay. That motherfucker. The real, the real charge there is called the cult of the Marquis of hell. And that's where he was brutally. I don't want to get it. Rob Reiner by his own parents.

[Michael Malice]

Right, okay.

[Kurt Metzger]

Because by the way, that kid, if you think Rick Reiner was not in one of those generational incest cults, you must have not seen all the pictures of three generations of dads kissing their kids on the mouth.

[Michael Malice]

So you were the one, I believe, who told me how they public had made jokes about Rob Reiner getting with his son and no, no, no.

[Kurt Metzger]

They said, oh, yeah, no. Carl Reiner used to have his famous friends over. This is.

[Michael Malice]

There was a. No, there was a roast where he was.

[Kurt Metzger]

The Friars roast. Right.

[Michael Malice]

Not number one and number two and everybody else. You pointed things, you pointed out to me that's like, how many drug addicts are there in Hollywood?

[Kurt Metzger]

18 rehab times.

[Michael Malice]

How many drug addict kids are there in Hollywood? How often does this happen? Like, this isn't something drug addicts just do to kill both their parents.

[Kurt Metzger]

Dude, nobody goes to rehab 18 times. I think because they were not graped by their own family.

[Michael Malice]

Yeah.

[Kurt Metzger]

But here's the thing I find and

[Michael Malice]

Also, drug addictions, everyone knows is very often a trauma response. It's not because heroin's not good.

[Kurt Metzger]

It is every single time. It's self medication. Anybody will tell you that. Rob Reiner made a video in the 90s 97 called I Am your child. And it was all about, get this, how to touch your baby properly. No, he doesn't say to. Don't worry, he doesn't say molest a child. But why? Oh, thanks Rob Reiner. Oh, do I drop it? Do I just drop it on the floor? Thanks Rob Reiner. Don't smoke.

[Michael Malice]

Well, you need that video because in space if you drop a baby, baby, it's fine.

[Kurt Metzger]

And that's my main issue with it. They just float. It's fine, we have fun.

[Michael Malice]

What's the point of a crib?

[Kurt Metzger]

Okay, I'm a single uncle of two. Can I enjoy my nieces in space and throw them like with no consequences? My God, have some fun.

[Michael Malice]

Kurt, we're running out of time. What has been your favorite part of this episode?

[Kurt Metzger]

Well, it's hard to say because I enjoyed my entire time with you, Michael.

[Michael Malice]

You are welcome.

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[Michael Malice]

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