
<p>Assembly of First Nations chiefs demand the immediate withdrawal of a new pipeline deal between Canada and Alberta. The deal would lift the federal ban on oil tanker traffic in northern B.C. waters. National Chief Cindy Woodhouse Nepinak said it was "as if First Nations rights can be wiped away” with one agreement.</p><p><br></p><p>And: Russian President Vladimir Putin says, if Europe wants a war, Moscow is ready. U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff and Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner are in Russia, meeting with Putin in an effort to advance peace talks. Ukraine officials say Russia has no intention of ending the war, and is wasting everyone’s time.</p><p><br></p><p>Also: Police in Edmonton are starting a new pilot project tomorrow using facial recognition technology on body-worn cameras. Police say the goal is to see if artificial intelligence can identify people when officers can't. But there are concerns about privacy and what AI means for the future of policing.</p><p><...
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Canada can create all the MOUS project offices, advisory groups that they want, but chiefs are united. We're when it comes to approving large national projects on first nations lands, there.
Susan Bonner
Will not be getting around rights holders facing the nations. The Prime Minister is speaking to chiefs from across the country on the same day. They are voicing their opposition to Mark Carney's pipeline deal with Alberta, a deal that vows to respect Indigenous communities while pushing for a pipeline through their territory. Welcome to youo World Tonight. I I'm Susan Bonner. It is Tuesday, December 2, just before 6pm Eastern. Also on the podcast we're going to.
Donald Trump (Direct Quotes)
Start doing those strikes on land too. You know, the land is much easier. We know the routes they take. We know everything about them. We know where they live. And we're going to start that very soon too.
Susan Bonner
New threats from US President Donald Trump warning alleged drug smugglers that military strikes so far only focused on international waters will be moving on land and may not be limited to just Venezuela. It has become a showdown between indigenous rights and resource development. Just days after Ottawa and Alberta came to terms, a pipeline proposal is getting a firm rejection from first nations leaders. Now the Prime Minister is looking to win approval, with doubts being raised about the project's future. Marina von Stackelberg reports.
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We are gathered on the unceded territory of the Algonquin Anishinaabe people.
Reporter/Correspondent
Prime Minister Mark Carney addressing the largest first nations organization in Canada days after he signed a deal that could have a new oil pipeline built right through many of their territories. The memorandum of understanding with Alberta could also see Ottawa lift a ban on oil tanker traffic off the sensitive north coast of bc.
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There must be consultation consistent with free prior and informed consent before a project can be designated in Canada's national interest.
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Carney's assurances come the same day, the assembly of first nations demanded the Canada Alberta pipeline deal be withdrawn. The Chief's emergency resolution passed unanimously on also fully backs the B.C. coastal First nations opposing the plan and reaffirms the Assembly's full support for the oil tanker ban.
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The pipeline going to BC's coast is nothing but a pipe dream.
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Chief Donald Edgar of Old Masset Village Council in Haida Gwai moved the resolution.
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Whether you support the pipeline or not, we can all agree that any government must seek our free and prior and informed consent before any proposed projects take place on our land and waters. This MoU provides no such assurances.
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Some indigenous groups do want to see a pipeline built.
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We are pro oil and gas.
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Greg Desjolet is chief of Frog Lake in Alberta. The Cree Nation owns and manages its own oil extraction company.
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We have to look at ways to be included for the long term, the length of the project, not three, six months of brushing or porta potties. I think we need to be there as partners and owners.
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Desjarlais says the federal government needs to do a better job of consulting because while first nations may have different views on resource extraction, they appear united in how they feel. Carney has handled the relationship so far. AFN National Chief Cindy Woodhouse Nebanack the.
Donald Trump
Truth is that Canada can create all the MOUs project offices, advisory groups that they want. But chiefs are united.
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Energy Minister Tim Hodgson asked for his reaction to the resolution.
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We need to work together. Now is not the time to split apart. Now is the time to come together and figure out how we can develop our energy and our natural resources.
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Hodgson says Ottawa will make sure indigenous people are at the table, but says the federal government can't consult on a project which when there isn't one yet. Marina von Stackelberg, CBC News, Ottawa.
Susan Bonner
There are questions today about how much consultation the federal government had with Algoma Steel regarding its plans for the future. Yesterday the company announced it will lay off a thousand people, about a third of its workforce. Two months ago, it got half a billion dollars in federal loans. The CBC's Peter Armstrong spoke with Algoma's CEO today to try to get some clarity. Peter, when the federal government loaned Algoma all money, did it know these layoffs were coming?
Peter Armstrong
Honestly, Susan, it's hard to see how they wouldn't have known. I mean, the central pillar of the plan to keep the company alive was to speed up this transition to these new, more efficient furnaces, which by definition was going to mean fewer jobs.
Susan Bonner
You spoke with the CEO of Algoma today did he know this would be the result then?
Peter Armstrong
He did. And this company has been very clear about these implications. Right. The money from Ottawa and Ontario was supposed to help Algoma transition away from these old, the tradition of making steel. Those old blast furnaces that are so labor intensive were going to be replaced with these new higher tech arc energy furnaces for the very purpose that the company could produce different kinds of steel. And one of the benefits listed at the top of the list is that these furnaces are more efficient.
Susan Bonner
And when you say efficient, does that mean fewer workers?
Peter Armstrong
Exactly right. Then you have to add in most of Algoma's products can no longer access the US market because of tariffs. It becomes very clear that layoffs were inevitable. Algoma CEO Michael Garcia says he has been clear about that.
Narrator/Reporter
We've been crystal clear with our employee base from the beginning. And really all the news that associate that was announced today, that's the most important part of this, this entire week has been the impact on our employees and on in the community.
Susan Bonner
And Peter, we heard today from Melanie Jolie, the minister responsible for industry. She said. Well, let's listen to what she said, right.
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This is not a perfect answer to those who are affected.
Narrator/Reporter
But my point is, is we'll continue.
Susan Bonner
To fight for these jobs.
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We'll be working with the union, we'll.
Susan Bonner
Be working with the company, and we'll.
Reporter/Correspondent
Make sure that the future can be brighter right now for the steel workers.
Susan Bonner
And the steel sector. So, Peter, what do you make of that?
Peter Armstrong
Well, I think she's saying that, look, the government has taken these steps to help Algoma be more flexible. And then it's taken steps in the budget, for example, to help companies build. That in turn should in theory at least induce demand for steel. The government's also promised at least to help cut shipping costs so Ontario Steel can be more competitive in say, Alberta and bc. And all told, the theory is they hope, Susan, that the extra demand because of all of that will mean extra shifts back at Algoma and that some of those laid off workers can be brought back to work. But nobody's putting any of those promises down on paper today because there are so many unknowns still.
Susan Bonner
Thank you, Peter.
Peter Armstrong
You bet.
Susan Bonner
That's CBC senior business correspondent Peter Armstrong here in Toronto. Coming right up, warnings from Washington about controversial strikes on alleged drug boats moving onshore. And a US delegation gets FaceTime with Vladimir Putin with Ukraine, Russia, peace talks happening in Moscow later have this story.
Karen Pauls
I'm Karen Pauls at the Archives of Manitoba, where they hope to get an important new addition to their HBC collection.
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All of us were just concerned that.
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It would be sold and be in.
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Private hands and possibly also leave the country.
Karen Pauls
I'll tell you more about a deal between two of Canada's richest families and what it means for a 355 year old document later on YOUR WORLD tonight.
Susan Bonner
Donald Trump is threatening to expand his attacks on alleged South American drug traffickers. So far, strikes have hit boats in Caribbean waters. Today, the US President said targets on land will be next in Venezuela and beyond. Katie Simpson has the details from Washington.
Donald Trump (Direct Quotes)
Welcome to the final cabinet meeting of 2025.
Donald Trump
Flanked by his cabinet secretaries, US President Donald Trump kicked off what would become a lengthy and unusual meeting, unexpectedly announcing his plan to expand US Attacks on international drug traffickers beyond the American airstrikes currently targeting boats in the Caribbean.
Donald Trump (Direct Quotes)
And we're going to start doing those strikes on land, too. You know, the land is much easier, much easier. And we know the routes they take.
Donald Trump
Trump didn't specify when this phase of the campaign would begin other than to say soon. The US Military has already surged resources to the Caribbean as tensions intensify. And while Trump says Venezuelan drug traffickers have been the target of attacks so far, that's not necessarily going to be the case moving forward.
Donald Trump (Direct Quotes)
Anybody that's doing that and selling it into our country is subject to attack.
Narrator/Reporter
So not necessarily just Venezuela.
Donald Trump (Direct Quotes)
No, not just that. Israel?
Peter Armstrong
No.
Donald Trump
Trump made the comments near the end of his two hour Cabinet meeting. At various points, he appeared tired, restless and struggled to keep his eyes open. He sat next to Pete Hegseth, his embattled defense secretary, who had a typo on his nameplate, an extra S at the start of the word secretary.
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We've only just begun striking narco boats and putting narco terrorists at the bottom of the ocean.
Donald Trump
Hegseth is trying to distance himself from that controversial double strike on an alleged drug boat back in September. According to a Washington Post report, after the first strike did not kill everyone on board, a second strike was ordered to finish the job.
Podcast Host/Narrator
I watched that first strike live. As you can imagine, at the Department of War, we've got a lot of things to do, so I didn't stick around for the.
Donald Trump
Hegseth said he learned of the second strike and hours later he called it the correct thing to do, a decision he says was made by Admiral Frank Bradley.
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I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because the thing was on fire.
Narrator/Reporter
It was exploded in fire smoke.
Peter Armstrong
You can't see anything.
Narrator/Reporter
You got digital. This is called the fog of war.
Donald Trump
There are bipartisan concerns in Congress about the ongoing operations and the Trump administration's intentions, and it comes as Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro makes a bizarre call for calm.
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Yes, please.
Donald Trump
Maduro danced on a stage Monday at a large outdoor gathering in Caracas to the English remix of his song demanding peace. At this point, there's nothing to suggest Trump will back off his plan. Katie Simpson, CBC News, Washington.
Susan Bonner
Trump also used the Cabinet meeting news conference to launch a vicious tirade at somalis in the U.S. they've been a regular target for the president.
Donald Trump (Direct Quotes)
Their country stinks and we don't want them in our country. I could say that about other countries, too. We don't want them to help. We got to. We have to rebuild our country. You know, our country's at a tipping point. We could go one way or the other and we're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country.
Susan Bonner
He went on to directly insult Democratic Representative Ilhan Omar, who was born in Somalia. Somali Americans have said his accusations unnecessarily target an entire community. American negotiators are in Moscow tonight taking their push to end the war in Ukraine directly to the Russian president. High level talks focused on a US Peace plan, but before they began, Vladimir Putin took aim at Europe, calling its effort to stop the fighting unacceptable. Katie Nicholson has more on the talks.
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Small talk through interpreters Ahead of their big Moscow meeting, Russian President Vladimir Putin sat across an opulent white table from US Envoy Steve Witkoff and US President Donald Trump's son Jared Kushner, there to push a newly revised peace plan. The initial 28 point plan was heavily criticized for echoing Russian talking points, including limiting the size of the Ukrainian army and forcing Ukraine to surrender territory. That plan now whittled down after two rounds of negotiations with Ukraine. Before the meeting, Putin held a news conference and blamed Europe for obstructing US Efforts to resolve the nearly four year war. Putin's stance hardly one of compromise. We are not planning to fight Europe, putin said. But if Europe suddenly decides to wage war against us and starts it, we are ready right now. Also ahead of the meeting, Russia's Defense Ministry posted videos of its soldiers holding a flag claiming to have conquered Pokrovsk, the eastern Ukrainian city which serves as a key hub to the front lines. But Ukraine says the fight there is ongoing. Serhiy Kuzan runs a Ukrainian security think tank. He says the videos are all about making Putin appear strong before negotiations. These operations are aimed to put pressure on Americans and Europeans, he says, who supposedly need to see Putin's strength and power. On the other side of Europe, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky received a warm reception from the Irish politics parliament and later struck a positive note on the new momentum for peace.
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It's a little bit optimist in my words, because of some speed of negotiations and from American side, the interest in it. We not just hope. We hope and work. Hardly work each day. And we hope, of course, because we.
Interpreter/Translator
Want peace in Washington. Hope and frustration from the American president.
Donald Trump (Direct Quotes)
Our people are over in Russia right now to see if we can get it settled. Not an easy situation, let me tell you. What a mess.
Interpreter/Translator
After nearly five hours, Witkoff and Kushner left their meeting with Putin for the US Embassy. Russian envoy Kirill Dmitriev posted a single word on social media productive and added a dove emoji. Katie Nicholson, CBC News, Washington.
Susan Bonner
A new study of prostate cancer diagnoses is putting a much debated form of screening back under the microscope. The PSA test is not recommended for routine screening in Canada, but some experts say it may be time for that guidance to change. Jennifer Legrasse explains, we saw cases of.
Karen Pauls
Incurable prostate cancer climbing.
Jennifer Legrasse
Anna Wilkinson is the lead author of a new study on prostate cancer. It found that the proportion of stage four prostate cancer cases among Canadian men 50 years and older has increased between 2010 and 2021.
Reporter/Correspondent
By looking what's happening in Canada, we.
Susan Bonner
Can see the way that screening guidelines.
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Are impacting prostate cancer outcome.
Jennifer Legrasse
Wilkinson is a general practitioner in Ottawa and treats cancer patients. The study shows an increase in the rate of incurable prostate cancer and a leveling off of death rates for all stages. Study authors say this could be indicative of screening recommendations. Canada has never recommended routine screening for all men using the prostate Specific antigen test or PSA. In 2014, it said the PSA test caused more harm than good recommending against it.
Reporter/Correspondent
The harm that that we saw from this study right now is under diagnosis. I would like to see recommendation that allows men access to screening within the proper context to to mitigate harms, but still offer men a choice.
Jennifer Legrasse
One major drawback of the study the authors don't know whether people were screened or not. The PSA test involves blood work that measures levels of a certain protein produced by the prostate. The levels tend to increase with age. A higher level doesn't necessarily mean cancer.
Narrator/Reporter
This is a very controversial topic.
Jennifer Legrasse
Bishal Ghawali is a medical oncologist in Kingston. He says the test isn't accurate and the majority of prostate Cancer cases are.
Narrator/Reporter
Slow growing even after you have detected that it is prostate cancer. In fact, the right course of treatment is to do nothing and just wait and watch and see how things evolve.
Jennifer Legrasse
But prostate cancer survivor Don Rees says without screening, things could have looked a lot different for him.
Narrator/Reporter
To give yourself a five minute blood test just to ensure that your PSA levels are staying at the level they need to stay at. It's the difference between life and death.
Jennifer Legrasse
At 65 years old, Rees, who started getting the blood test in his mid-40s, was diagnosed with prostate cancer. He says he's not sure what stage it was, but was told it was aggressive. Months later he had surgery, and now at 67, he's glad he kept a close eye on it.
Narrator/Reporter
100% PSA screening is the way to go. There is no downside as far as I'm concerned.
Jennifer Legrasse
The Public Health Agency of Canada's task force on cancer screening recommendations is currently going through a reorganization. It will decide what topics it will provide guidelines for in the spring of 2026. Jennifer LeGrassa, CBC News, Toronto.
Susan Bonner
Police in Edmonton are starting a pilot project tomorrow using facial recognition technology on body worn camera. Police say the goal is to see if artificial intelligence can identify people when officers cannot. But there are concerns about privacy and what AI means for the future of policing. Aaron Collins has that story.
Narrator/Reporter
There we go. So we can see that the mugshot photo of Ann Lee here is on the left.
Podcast Host/Narrator
Edmonton police demoing a new way to ID bad guys. Acting Superintendent Kurt Martin shows how body cameras and facial recognition software can work together.
Narrator/Reporter
You can see there's quite a few people that were actually captured in this image here. But the only person that was actually triggered the facial recognition.
Podcast Host/Narrator
The idea is simple enough. A police officer in the field would be able to engage their body cameras to get more info about the person in front of them. The image would be analyzed by AI searching a limited database of people wanted for a violent crime or with a history of negative interactions with the police. If the subject was flagged, the officer in the field would be alerted. For now, this is all just hypothetical. A test of the cameras and the software. But that could change in a future phase.
Narrator/Reporter
The idea would be obviously to do this in near real time and make sure that officers are aware of any potential dangers that exist to them.
Podcast Host/Narrator
Right away, a test of the potential for artificial intelligence to be used in policing.
Narrator/Reporter
I think the speed of development of these technologies is catching everybody by surprise.
Podcast Host/Narrator
Professor Ian Adams is part of the US Council on Criminal Justice's AI task force.
Narrator/Reporter
Slow down and take a breath. Roll out the kind of tests that it sounds like Edmonton is doing and make sure that you're actually spending public.
Podcast Host/Narrator
Dollars wisely on the streets of Edmonton. Opinions are mixed.
Narrator/Reporter
Yeah, I think they've got a very dangerous job to do and anything that can make their job safer and easier for them, I support it. Sounds like it could be somewhat invasive. How reliable and you know, how many false hits will they get?
Podcast Host/Narrator
It's an issue that has police forces divided, too. The RCMP prohibits using facial recognition with body cameras, but other forces have embraced the idea.
Interpreter/Translator
Stop there.
Narrator/Reporter
Stop there. Stop where you are.
Podcast Host/Narrator
This video shows police in London, England, deploying cameras with facial recognition to identify people wanted for crimes as they pass by on the street.
Narrator/Reporter
You're being arrested because you're shown wanted on a police national computer.
Podcast Host/Narrator
A broader application of the Edmonton Forces use of the technology to be sure and a sign that AI is being used more extensively in policing, according to Professor Adams.
Narrator/Reporter
When you do use these technologies in a way that might impact civil liberties, it is important that we have what we call a human in the loop, somebody with good judgment to sort of put a check and make sure that that facial recognition return is correct.
Podcast Host/Narrator
For its part, the Edmonton pilot will have a human officer check the results of the AI. The Forces proof of concept test starts Wednesday and will last about a month. Erin Collins, CBC News, Calgary, Quebec wants.
Susan Bonner
To crack down on the high cost of ticket resales. A proposed law would prohibit resales unless buyers are clearly informed they are on a resale platform and the same ticket may be available elsewhere at a lower price. Reselling a ticket at a higher price than the original would only be permitted with the consent of of the event organizer. This is yous World Tonight from CBC News. If you want to make sure you stay up to date and never miss one of our episodes, follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts, just find the follow button and lock us in. It is one of the most important documents in Canada's history that will be sold to two of the country's richest families. CBC News has confirmed a bid has been approved from the Weston and Thompson families to buy the Hudson's Bay company's founding charter. The struggling retailer was forced to sell the document and other assets to pay off creditors. Karen Pauls has more on the sale and where the charter will end up.
Karen Pauls
We have to get past two locked doors to get into this vault at the Archives of Manitoba. Three stories of HBC documents and maps donated by the company Decades ago, many.
Narrator/Reporter
Of our oldest records of the Hudson's Bay Company.
Karen Pauls
Kathleen Epp is the keeper of the HBC archives. She says the collection would be complete with one major acquisition. The HBC Royal Charter. Signed and sealed by King Charles II in 1670. It granted the company a trading monopoly covering one third of what's now Canada, without the consent of the Indigenous peoples who already lived there. But the 17th century fur trader is now effectively a bankrupt 21st century retailer. So HBC is selling the charter.
Narrator/Reporter
All of us were just concerned that.
Interpreter/Translator
It would be sold and be in.
Narrator/Reporter
Private hands and possibly also leave the country.
Karen Pauls
Cody Grote teaches history and Indigenous studies at Western University. He's also part of the UNESCO Memory of the World Advisory Committee, which has recognized the HBC archives as one of.
Narrator/Reporter
The most significant archival collections in the world. Equating this with other documents like the Magna Carta, or the diaries of Anne Frank, or the original recordings of the wizard of Oz.
Karen Pauls
Enter two of Canada's wealthiest families. Galen Weston offered to buy the document for $12.5 million. David Thompson anted up 15 million. Then the two families set aside their rivalry and announced a joint bid of 18 million. They would permanently donate the charter to the Manitoba Museum, the Canadian Museum of History, the Royal Ontario Museum and the Archives of Manitoba.
Narrator/Reporter
There is an arc of evolving relationship with settler society that today is asking us to reconsider.
Karen Pauls
Raymond Frogner is with the national center for Truth and Reconciliation. It signed on in support of the Weston Thompson offer because it includes $5 million for maintenance of the document and consultation with Indigenous peoples on how to present it to the public.
Narrator/Reporter
You know why this matters and what are Indigenous concerns on its discussion and interpretation and kind of a reset to build a society based on values of respect and equality and human dignity and not feudal values of governance and dominance and control.
Karen Pauls
With the document on the auction block tomorrow, a source with direct knowledge who CBC is not naming because they're not authorized to speak on the matter, confirms there are no other bidders. So the court will be asked to approve the joint Thompson Weston offer next week. The hope is that the Royal Charter will travel to its new home early in the new year. Karen Pauls, CBC News, Winnipeg.
Susan Bonner
We close tonight with an Italian mayor accused of hitting the wrong note while trying to harmonize a skating rink and a tribute to one of the country's most treasured performers, Opera great Luciano Pavarotti. His global fame and large physical stature earned him the nickname Big P. But a statue of the singer in the coastal city of Pesaro is more like iced tea. A temporary skating rink is set to open this week weekend in a city square. It's also home to a bronze statue of Pavarotti, who died in 2007. But instead of moving the statue, the rink was built around it, leaving Pavarotti knee deep in ice. This downtown shopkeeper likes it. And that was the mayor's opinion, too, posting a Photoshopped image of the statue holding a hockey stick, encouraging skaters to come give Pavarotti a high five. But the singer's widow, Nicoletta Mantovani, thinks the setup is ugly and in poor taste, telling a local newspaper it's just not right seeing her late husband stuck in a skating rink. The criticism appears to have changed the mayor's tune. He's now saying it was a construction mistake and the rink was never supposed to enclose the statue. Still, city officials say it's too late to make changes and the statue stays on ice. Thanks for joining us. This has been your world tonight for Tuesday day, december 2nd. I'm susan bonner. Talk to you again.
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In this episode, hosts Susan Bonner and Stephanie Skenderis bring listeners up to speed on critical global and Canadian stories shaping the current moment. The episode covers: First Nations’ rejection of a new federal pipeline accord; Donald Trump’s escalating rhetoric and actions against alleged drug traffickers; heated US-Russia peace talks as Putin postures for war readiness; a revived debate over prostate cancer screening in Canada; Edmonton police’s new facial recognition tech trial; an historic HBC document sale; and a quirky controversy in Italy over a statue of Luciano Pavarotti—“frozen in ice.”
The episode is fast-paced, informative, and maintains a tone of urgency mixed with candid reporting and personal perspectives.
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The episode is analytical, direct, sometimes blunt—reflecting the urgency or controversy of the stories featured. Hosts and reporters maintain journalistic neutrality while giving space for passionate stakeholder and expert voices.
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