
<p>Dozens of people are dead after a massive fire in Hong Kong. Many people are still missing. The fire still isn’t out, and there’s no word on the cause, but many fingers are pointing to bamboo scaffolding that caused flames to spread very quickly.</p><p><br></p><p>And: Ottawa announces support for steel and lumber industries coping with U.S. tariffs. The plan includes limits on the amount of foreign steel coming into the country, and measures to help steel and wood producers better compete in the domestic market.</p><p><br></p><p>Also: Canadian food banks are preparing to meet demand like never before. Grocery costs are soaring, and food banks say the need is pushing them past their limits.</p><p><br></p><p>Plus: Two National Guards members shot near White House, the debate over F35s vs Gripens, challenges ahead for Paralympian Raphaëlle Tousignant, and more.</p>
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Natalie Robomed
You may have heard of the sex cult NXIVM and the famous actress who went to prison for her involvement, Alison Mack, but she's never told her side of the story until now.
Witness/Interviewee
People assume that I'm like this pervert.
Natalie Robomed
My name is Natalie Robomed and in my new podcast I talked to Allison to try to understand how she went from TV actor to cult member and what she thinks of it all. Now, how do you feel about having.
Susan Bonner
Been involved in bringing sexual trauma to other people? I mean, I don't even know how.
Witness/Interviewee
To answer that question.
Natalie Robomed
Allison ofTronexium from CBC's Uncover is available now.
Susan Bonner
Wherever you get your podcasts, this is a CBC podcast.
Witness/Interviewee
The temperature inside the buildings are very high. It's quite difficult for us to enter the building and go upstairs to conduct firefighting and rescue operation.
Susan Bonner
Flames out of control and hundreds of residents out of reach trapped high above Hong Kong in a massive of fire spread across multiple high rise buildings. Questions about what went wrong with many still missing and the casualties still climbing. Welcome to youo World Tonight. I'm Susan Bonner. It is Wednesday, November 26, just before 6pm Eastern. Also on the podcast, we must protect.
Mark Carney
Our workers and our industries who are most exposed to US Tariffs. Help them bridge to the future.
Susan Bonner
New support for industries under pressure in a trade war with Canada's steel and lumber sectors facing future uncertainty and bleeding jobs. Now Ottawa is offering financial aid and protection from foreign products. Also.
Mark Carney
Boom.
Witness/Interviewee
Boom twice.
Natalie Robomed
Go. Go.
Susan Bonner
And then I heard help, Help. In the direction of the shooting, gunshots near the White House injure two National Guard members and put Washington on high alert. In Hong KONG, at least 40 people are dead and close to 300 people missing after a fire broke out at one apartment tower and spread to several more. Rescue efforts were hampered by intense heat and the height of the building. Now three people are under arrest in connection to the disaster. The Lisa Shing has the latest.
Lisa Shing
Bright orange flames shot up in the air as the sky grew dark. Onlookers with their phones out, others hugging each other, crying, some wrapped in red blankets, sitting on the curb. Everyone was shouting that there was a fire. Get out, get out. Says this woman who lives in one of the buildings. The deadly inferno broke out mid afternoon local time at the densely populated Wong Phuk housing complex in Hong Kong's Taipo district. Eight blocks of buildings dozens of stories tall with about 4,800 residents living in them. The fire went from one block to another, says this woman. It was just burning and burning. It burned until it exploded Things were exploding and falling down. One man says his wife was still inside. Another left his dog. I am devastated, says Jason Kong. There are so many neighbors and friends, I don't know what to do. The blaze engulfed at least seven buildings close to each other, smoke and flames shooting out of the many windows. Firefighters attempted rescue efforts, including a baby, but reaching residents was a struggle. Crews dodged burning debris and falling scaffolding, says Derek Armstrong Chan, deputy director of fire services at the Hong Kong Fire Department.
Witness/Interviewee
And the temperature inside the buildings concerned are very high. So it's quite difficult for us to enter the building and go upstairs to conduct firefighting and rescue operation.
Lisa Shing
A firefighter, 37 year old Ho Wai Ho, died from his injuries. And hundreds of people are spending the night in temporary shelters, including sports centers and schools where paramedics treated them. Officials say the fire started at the external bamboo scaffolding of one of the buildings, later spreading to the inside. And nearby blocks had started phasing out the material for safety reasons. No doubt part of the investigation. As authorities look into what happened, people are grieving the dozens of family members they lost and hope for the safety of those who are still missing. Lisa Shing, CBC News, Toronto.
Susan Bonner
Two National Guard members have been shot within blocks of the White House. It happened in broad daylight near a Metro station. Which one person is in custody? The CBC's Katie Simpson was on the scene shortly after the shooting. Katie, what do we know?
Natalie Robomed
The FBI director is calling this a horrendous act of violence, saying members of the National Guard were brazenly attacked. It was around 2:15 this afternoon when police say an armed suspect approached members of the National Guard as they were patrolling a metro station just about two blocks from the White House. Two members of the National Guard were shot. There was a back and forth with the suspect, who was also shot and is now in custody. The mayor of Washington, D.C. says at this time this appears to be a targeted shooting. Police are also describing it as an ambush. It was a chaotic scene with a massive police response. Stacey Walters, a nurse who lives in D.C. was in an Uber close to the scene when she heard it all unfold.
Witness/Interviewee
I was in the Uber when the shooting happened. I heard boom boom, two boom booms. So then the Uber driver says to.
Natalie Robomed
Me, why are all these people running?
Witness/Interviewee
And I look on the street, so many people running the opposite direction. And it was little, little children too. They looked like school age children, maybe even as young as five. So the individual who's in charge of them, I just heard him say, go, go. So Then I heard help.
Susan Bonner
Help.
Natalie Robomed
Initially, the governor of West Virginia had said that two National Guard troops were shot in this incident, that they were from his home state and that they had died as a result of their injuries. However, less than an hour later, the governor said that they are. There are now conflicting reports and we have that the National Guard members are in critical condition. US President Donald Trump has been briefed on the investigation on social media. He wrote, the animal who shot the two National Guard men is also severely wounded, but regardless will pay a very steep price.
Susan Bonner
Katie, a word on who these National Guards are. They've been patrolling D.C. since the summer, part of the president's efforts to make the U.S. capitol safer.
Natalie Robomed
Yeah, the National Guard deployment in D.C. started after a government employee, someone who worked at Doge, was beaten up after a night out. And the National Guard have stayed in town ever since. And it's important to remember National Guard troops serve on a part time basis. They have other jobs. Some are teachers that are not just, you know, related to the military. And there's been plenty of public debate in D.C. about whether this deployment is actually necessary and whether these troops even really want to be here. As someone who lives here, you'd often see them in the streets, at metro stations. They're generally very friendly. The public here has been very friendly back. They're treated very differently than ICE agents for the most part. It appears the White House is now considering deploying even more National Guard troops in the wake of this shooting.
Susan Bonner
Thank you, Katie.
Natalie Robomed
Thanks.
Susan Bonner
The CBC's Katie Simpson in Washington. A judge has dismissed an election interference case against US President Donald Trump after a request from Georgia prosecutors. The charges stemmed from Trump's efforts to overturn his loss in the state. During the 2020 election. He faced 13 criminal counts, including violating racketeering laws. But the district attorney who originally brought the case was removed for having an inappropriate relationship with a prosecutor. The new district attorney asked to have the case dismissed. Coming right up, material support. Ottawa announces new help for steel and lumber sectors trying to weather the ongoing trade war. And the proposed pipeline linking Alberta oil with the B.C. coast, causing a split in the Liberal caucus. Later, we'll have this story.
Witness/Interviewee
She's considered one of Canada's best para hockey players. Rafael Toussignan is now trying to make the mixed team heading to the Paralympics in Italy, a challenge she's facing at a time of personal struggle. I did a mammogram, I did a biopsy, ultrasound, a bunch of tests, and yeah, it's a breast cancer. I'm Sarah Levin in Montreal. Later on youn World tonight, how health problems aren't stopping Toussignon from chasing her dream.
Susan Bonner
The prime minister has unveiled new measures aimed at helping the steel and lumber sectors. Both industries are suffering because of US Tariffs. Mark Carney says his plan will help them become more resilient and less reliant on American business. Marina von Stackelberg explains, demand is coming.
Mark Carney
We're creating that demand.
Murray Brewster
Prime Minister Mark Carney announcing new supports he says will protect two important domestic industries and clear roadblocks for their products to be used more at home. Carney says Canada will limit the portion of foreign steel that can come into the country at lower tariff rates, even for countries outside of US And Mexico that Ottawa has free trade agreements with.
Mark Carney
To ensure that our steel producers have a bigger share of our market. Doing so will unlock hundreds of millions of dollars in domestic demand for those producers.
Murray Brewster
Carney's plan also includes a new 25% tariff on some imported steel products like wires and prefabricated buildings. The measure is welcomed by the industry, battered by Trump's trade war and already fighting a battle with other countries importing cheap steel. Keenan Loomis is with the Canadian Institute of Steel Construction.
Mark Carney
What China is trying to do is to swamp domestic industries and thus basically killing them. So what we need is these types of measures to be able to protect the industry.
Murray Brewster
Ottawa is also pledging to cut the cost of transporting Canadian steel and lumber between provinces by train in half. Industries have argued the high cost to ship these raw materials cross country make them cheaper to buy from overseas. Housing projects that use Canadian wood will also be prioritized. $1 billion in loans and supports are also being promised to the lumber industry. That's on top of the 1.2 billion OT in August. But despite calls for months from the forestry industry, little of that money has actually started flowing.
Susan Bonner
Get the money out the door.
Murray Brewster
Derek Nybor is with the Forest Products association of Canada. He says 2,000 jobs have already been lost since the trade war began.
Susan Bonner
The additional funding is welcome today. The focus now needs to be on execution, and that's the piece we'll be holding the government to account for.
Murray Brewster
Carney says talks with the United States have not restarted, but that he will be meeting with President Trump in Washington next week. Marina von Stackelberg, CBC News, Ottawa.
Susan Bonner
He's facing pushback from one province, criticism from the opposition. Now Mark Carney is dealing with internal caucus pressure over his pipeline plan with Alberta. Tomorrow's announcement is expected to lay the groundwork for a proposed line to the West Coast. And as Olivia Stefanovic reports, it's already laying bare some tricky politics.
Mark Carney
Of course, it's important for British Columbians to be involved in the process.
Olivia Stefanovic
In front of cameras, B.C. liberal MPs like Parm Baines are speaking diplomatically about the potential of a new oil pipeline.
Mark Carney
You know, it doesn't really matter what me personally, I think it matters what Canadians altogether think.
Olivia Stefanovic
But behind closed doors, some tell CBC News they're seething, angry. They're learning about the details of the prime minister's agreement with Alberta from the media instead of their own government.
Natalie Robomed
What did you tell the caucus?
Mark Carney
We had a really good discussion.
Olivia Stefanovic
Natural Resources Minister Tim Hodgson tried to smooth over those concerns this morning, delivering a briefing to B.C. liberal MPs on the MOU before Prime Minister Mark Carney laid out the broad strokes to the rest of caucus. But one MP described the meeting as quite candid and tense at times, with Hutchin using words like naive and ideological when responding to concerns. The project may be too much for lifelong environmental activist Stephen Guilbeault to bear. Sources say the Minister of Canadian Identity and Culture is having conversations with the prime minister's office, and there are internal concerns.
Mark Carney
Guilbeault could resign, and we enjoy a very open and engaged dialogue.
Olivia Stefanovic
Carney hasn't directly addressed the cabinet resignation rumor, but says the MOU is about more than a pipeline.
Mark Carney
It's about building this economy. It's about making Canada more independent, and it's about making Canada more sustainable.
Olivia Stefanovic
Sources say the agreement exempts Alberta from some environmental regulations in exchange for stricter industrial carbon pricing, carbon capture, storage, engagement with bc, and support from first nations, who say they're also learning about the MOU through the press.
Susan Bonner
So it's been, you know, frustrating.
Olivia Stefanovic
Marilyn Slutt is the elected chief counselor of the Heltzig Tribal Council, one of the coastal first nations, urging Ottawa to uphold the tanker ban off of BC's northern coast.
Mark Carney
Ultimately, one oil spill could destroy our way of life. I don't think that leaking to the Globe and Mail and the CBC is First nations engagement, and I don't think it's helpful.
Olivia Stefanovic
B.C. energy Minister Adrian Dix says his province isn't on board with the plan, and Ottawa should have started speaking to first nations much earlier.
Mark Carney
I think that's the way you get things done.
Olivia Stefanovic
The opposition is also pouring cold water on the government' ability to follow through from conservative Alberta MP Stephanie Cousy.
Susan Bonner
And they have a pretty divided caucus.
Olivia Stefanovic
And cabinet right now to block Irquois leader Yves Francois Blanchette.
Mark Carney
Don't promise things that you cannot deliver or that you should not deliver. That's what politics should be all about.
Olivia Stefanovic
Carney isn't promising a pipeline will get built, only that he will clear the way for Alberta to make the project possible. Olivia Stefanovic, CBC News, Ottawa.
Susan Bonner
As the federal government tries to decide which fleet of fighter jets it wants to buy, a Defense Department report obtained by Regio Canada is shedding more light on why the Royal Canadian Air Force likes one option better than the other. Murray Brewster reports.
Murray Brewster
116 has a loud and clear a.
Mark Carney
US Air Force F35 looking to refuel mid air. The F35 has long been the preferred choice of the Royal Canadian Air Force to replace the CF18s, and now we have it in writing. I'm actually a little surprised at how stark the difference is. Defense expert Dave Perry looking at a technical evaluation written in 2021 comparing Lockheed Martin's F35 with Saab's Gripen. The document was written as the Liberal government debated which jet to choose. The Air Force evaluation obtained by our colleagues at Radio Canada gave the F35 a commanding 95% acceptability rating versus 33% for the Gripen. The Trudeau government had originally promised not to buy the F35. Dave Perry wonders whether this evaluation was the tipping point in the decision to do an about face because the capability assessment here says that there is a clear cut winner, like no contest, no ambiguity. The F35 was assessed as being much more capable than the alternative, and I don't think that that's fundamentally changed. Critics, however, say a lot has changed in five years. Much of the evaluation was based on performance and the functionality of the F35. In September, the US Government Accountability Office issued a report that said Lockheed Martin was having trouble delivering the latest software update known as Block 4. Retired Air Force Major General Charles Duff Sullivan wonders how much that will close the gap. Now this is going to have a significant impact on the countries that are, you know, due to receive this aircraft, mainly in the area of weapons employment, sensor fusion, self protection and networking. The Department of National Defense says it's aware of the F35 software problem, but insists the issues will not impact the aircraft Canada will receive. Software, however, is the defining feature of all modern aircraft determining functionality. So we have a new software update in the aircraft about every 10, 14 days. Lt. Col. Marcus Vandt is a Gripen test pilot who says the Swedish Air Force and Saab literally meet every week to discuss software updates. My job is to I was put in the middle of this program to make sure that it became a fighter for war and not a product. It's unclear whether the Air Force has updated its 2021 assessment for the government's current review of the F35. A decision on which fighter to select will be based on more than just capability, though jobs and economic benefits are part of the broader discussion. Murray Brewster, CBC News, Ottawa.
Susan Bonner
This is yous World Tonight from CBC News. If you want to make sure you stay up to date and never miss one of our episodes, follow us on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your podcasts, just find the Follow button and lock us in. Heading into the holiday season, food banks say demand for their help is at a record high as more and more Canadians struggle to keep up with rising prices, some food banks are getting pushed past their limits. Selena Alders reports having the access to it is life changing.
Selena Alders
Brody Dawson goes to his local food bank about once a week to stock up on essentials. The Toronto resident is unable to work due to an injury and with the rising cost of groceries, he's been struggling to keep up financially. But he says it's around the holiday season where he really feels the pinch.
Susan Bonner
Everyone wants to contribute something when you're having big meals for Christmas.
Selena Alders
Volunteers at food banks across the country are gearing up for what's expected to be a holiday season of record high demand for food assistance.
Mark Carney
The demand is growing so much in terms of what's happening with our economy and what's happening with just trying to survive.
Selena Alders
Romaine Rodin with Halifax's Parker Street Food and Furniture bank says demand for its Christmas hamper is already up by 10% this year. They've extended their application deadline by three weeks just to give families in need a chance to sign up. Dawson says he sees people from all walks of life each week at his local food bank.
Susan Bonner
You could see a mom with a stroller and her kids. You could see somebody in a suit. You could see young adults in Mississauga.
Selena Alders
It's been a year since City Council declared food insecurity a citywide emergency. CEO of Food Banks Mississauga, Megan Nichols says this was a big step, but more work needs to be done at all levels of government to address the affordability crisis.
Witness/Interviewee
We are a very efficient, very helpful.
Natalie Robomed
Band aid that helps people through emergency times. We do not bring food security for.
Susan Bonner
People on a year round basis.
Selena Alders
This year the organization has set a 3 million dollar fundraising goal for their annual holiday campaign. A recent food Bank's Canada report shows the number of food insecure Canadians has doubled since 2019. Director of Research Richard Matern says it's a countrywide trend. With no region spared, many people are.
Mark Carney
Having increasingly difficult time affording both rent and food, both of which have increased by over 25% since 2021.
Selena Alders
He says they're calling on Ottawa to introduce a groceries and essentials benefit for lower income Canadians. In the meantime, local food banks are inviting community members to help meet the growing need through financial and food donations so that every family can share in the holiday season. Selena Alders, CBC News, Halifax.
Susan Bonner
Environment Canada is rolling out a new weather warning system across the country. Instead of general watches and warnings, alerts will now come in three color coded tiers. Yellow means conditions could be disruptive, orange signals a risk of serious damage and red warns of potentially life threatening. Weather officials say the goal is to make storm alerts clearer and improve preparedness. She has beaten the odds before Now, Rafael Toussignan may be facing her toughest test yet. She is one of Canada's best para hockey players who wants to compete alongside men on a mixed team at the upcoming Paralympics. But getting there will be a challenge on and off the ice. Sarah Levitt has her story.
Witness/Interviewee
In the dressing room ahead of the game, Rafael Tusignan listens intently to her captain. The Montreal Canadiens are about to strap into their sleds to take on the Boston Bruins in para hockey. What makes what makes Tusigna unique is she's the only woman on the team. After being diagnosed with bone cancer when she was 10, she had her right leg amputated. It hasn't stopped her. The 23 year old has made a name for herself in parahockey, dominating the women's side. She's also the first Canadian woman to compete with the mixed national team at the 2023 World Para Hockey Championship since she's set her sights on making history again by being the first woman to play at the Paralympics in MIL in March. Women's para hockey has yet to make an appearance at the Paralympics, so Tuisigna's only shot is with the mixed team, which holds a roster spot for a woman. Now, though, she's hit what she calls a major snag. I did a mammogram, I did a biopsy, ultrasound, a bunch of tests and yeah, it's a breast cancer. Tusinha starts her treatment this week, chemotherapy and will soon get a double mastectomy. A week after her diagnosis, she took to Instagram to let everybody know, but also to make it clear she's still going to try and crack the roster for Milan. I'm a lot on TikTok about it these days, trying to learn how it will be and trying to prepare myself and there's not enough story of athletes or very active person going through it. They kept working out and showing up to their sport. So I just want people to know and if I can inspire other people, I'll be glad. She's fearless Vanessa Racin mentored tousignan when she first started playing para hockey. She's not afraid of anything and I think that she can face challenges and.
Susan Bonner
I also believe that the fact that.
Witness/Interviewee
She put it out there, she's got a huge wave of support already. Tuzinha says first she'll tackle the treatment and see how her body reacts, but ultimately she wants to keep training. I don't know how realistic it is, I really don't know. But there's one thing in my life that I always tried and I'll keep showing up, I'll keep working hard he manifesting it. That's what I want. On the ice, up against men sometimes twice their size, that determination is on full display. Sarah Levitz, CBC News, Montreal.
Susan Bonner
What do you got? Gordon Lightfoot's 1980 song the Auctioneer fitting on a day when the legendary singer songwriter was the focus of a Toronto auction house. One of the most successful Canadian artists of all time, lightfoot died in 2023. Earlier today, fans and collectors had their chance to to purchase items from Lightfoot's estate. There were high school yearbooks, lyric sheets, set lists, artwork, awards, even a handwritten note with a phone number on reads if you need me, signed Bob Dylan. That sold for $1,700.
Natalie Robomed
McCall Fair warning at $380,000.
Susan Bonner
Selling at 380,000. And that was the winning bid, $380,000 for the jewel of the lot, Gordon Lightfoot's 1948 Martin acoustic guitar with a custom leather pad to prevent belt buckle scratches, and a smiley face sticker from Lightfoot's daughter. It was his primary performing guitar throughout much of his career gone to the high school bidder with one important condition. The auction house cannot ship the guitar out of the country because it is designated Canadian heritage. Thank you for joining us. This has been youn World Tonight for Wednesday, November 26th. I'm Susan Bonner. Talk to you again.
Mark Carney
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Episode Theme:
A fast-paced wrap of the day’s top news stories, from the deadly Hong Kong high-rise fire to economic support for Canadian industries, a D.C. shooting, surging food bank demand, pipeline politics, military procurement, para hockey inspiration, and a musical estate auction.
This episode delivers an in-depth contextual catch-up on major global and Canadian events, focusing on:
[00:44–05:09]
"It's quite difficult for us to enter the building and go upstairs to conduct firefighting and rescue operation."
— Derek Armstrong Chan, Hong Kong Fire Department [04:07]
Memorable moment:
"It was just burning and burning. It burned until it exploded. Things were exploding and falling down." — Resident [02:56]
[05:09–07:58]
“I heard boom boom, two boom booms... so many people running…It was little, little children too.” — Stacey Walters, local nurse [06:07]
[08:00–08:56]
[09:29–11:53]
“What China is trying to do is swamp domestic industries and thus basically killing them. So what we need is these types of measures to be able to protect the industry.”
— Keenan Loomis, Canadian Institute of Steel Construction [10:48]
[12:06–15:14]
“I don't think that leaking to the Globe and Mail and the CBC is First nations engagement, and I don't think it's helpful.”
— Marilyn Slutt, Chief Councillor, Heltzig Tribal Council [14:33]
“It's about building this economy. It's about making Canada more independent, and it's about making Canada more sustainable.” [13:54]
[15:27–18:29]
"The capability assessment here says that there is a clear cut winner, like no contest, no ambiguity."
— Dave Perry, Defense expert [16:23]
[18:29–21:37]
“You could see a mom with a stroller and her kids. You could see somebody in a suit. You could see young adults…”
— Brody Dawson, food bank user [20:08]
"Many people are having increasingly difficult time affording both rent and food, both of which have increased by over 25% since 2021."
— Richard Matern, Food Banks Canada [21:04]
[21:37–22:29]
[22:29–25:05]
"I just want people to know and if I can inspire other people, I'll be glad." [23:46] “There's one thing in my life that I always tried and I'll keep showing up, I'll keep working hard…manifesting it. That's what I want.” [24:39]
[25:05–26:56]
“Everyone was shouting that there was a fire. Get out, get out.”
— Resident, Hong Kong [02:38]
“I'm devastated…There are so many neighbors and friends, I don't know what to do.”
— Jason Kong, resident [03:15]
“I heard boom boom, two boom booms...so many people running the opposite direction.”
— Stacey Walters, D.C. nurse [06:07]
“What China is trying to do is to swamp domestic industries and thus basically killing them.”
— Keenan Loomis [10:48]
“The additional funding is welcome today. The focus now needs to be on execution, and that's the piece we'll be holding the government to account for.”
— Derek Nybor [11:39]
“I don't think that leaking to the Globe and Mail and the CBC is First nations engagement.”
— Marilyn Slutt [14:33]
“The capability assessment here says that there is a clear cut winner, like no contest, no ambiguity.”
— Dave Perry [16:23]
“We do not bring food security for people on a year round basis.”
— Megan Nichols [20:36]
“Many people are having increasingly difficult time affording both rent and food…both have increased by over 25% since 2021.”
— Richard Matern [21:04]
“There's not enough story of athletes or very active person going through it…So I just want people to know and if I can inspire other people, I'll be glad.”
— Rafael Toussignan [23:46]
The episode maintains CBC’s signature serious, empathetic, and deeply informative tone, blending hard political and economic news with stories of individual determination and broader community trends. For listeners, it offers both a timely catch-up and thoughtful context on “what’s real, what’s relevant, and what’s truly new”—and brings touching human moments into the day’s top news.