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Dental plan but no dentist visit, synagogue attack, is it time to stop the time change, and more
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<p>More than five million Canadians are signed up to the federal dental plan, but nearly half of them have yet to see a dentist. The national plan subsidizes the cost of the visit. But there’s a catch — dentists are allowed to charge more.</p><p><br></p><p>And: On the holiest day of the Jewish calendar, an attack kills two people at a synagogue in northern England. People were gathered for Yom Kippur services when a man drove a car into a crowd, then began stabbing people.</p><p><br></p><p>Also: Spring forward, fall back, stay still. Twice a year, more and more people are asking, why do we keep doing this to ourselves? One MP says it’s time to pick a time — and establish a set clock that would hold year round.</p><p><br></p><p>Plus: The Liberal government unveils agency to speed up military procurement, autoworkers in Oshawa brace for more layoffs, the societal costs of wildfires, and more.</p>
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Angie Seth
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Briar Stewart
Canada's dental plan is a little more than a year old and millions of Canadians have signed up. But only about half have actually seen a dentist. And there are questions about how much dental clinics should be allowed to charge and also questions about whether Ottawa has the teeth to make it work. Welcome to youo World Tonight. I'm Angie seth. It's Thursday, October 2nd, just before 6pm Eastern. Also on the podcast and today is Yom Kippur. It's a very holy festival and I'm Jewish and was absolutely terrified. That fear sparked by what police are calling a terror attack at a synagogue in Manchester, England. A man drove into people standing outside and then got out of the car and began slashing with a knife. It turned a day meant for fasting and reflection into one of sorrow and anxiety. Millions of Canadians are now eligible and opting in to the federal dental plan. Canada's health minister says it's good news, but there are gaps in that story. Some clinics are charging more than the plan pays, with patients left holding the bill for cleanings, fillings and dentures. As Marina von Stackelberg reports, that's just one of the concerns keeping many people out of the chair.
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Angie Seth
The influx is quite, quite a lot.
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Marina von Stackelberg
Ottawa dentist Minh Pham is so busy treating patients through the Canadian dental care plan, he's opened his clinic on Sundays.
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Angie Seth
I try my best so that they won't have too much waiting.
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Marina von Stackelberg
Health Canada says 5.2 million people are now covered, but nearly half of those patients haven't yet been to the dentist. There are backlogs in some parts of the country, especially after the program massively expanded this spread to cover 18 to 64 year olds.
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Angie Seth
Many of my patients never seen a dentist before. There's so much work to be done. There's extraction. There's filling.
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Marina von Stackelberg
Another reason why Dr. Pham might be so busy. He's charging only what the federal government will reimburse. That means some patients are walking out of his office without paying a cent.
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Angie Seth
So if people show up with a card with 100% coverage, they get freedom to care.
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Marina von Stackelberg
But that's not what most dentists are doing. Unlike other public programs, the Canadian dental care plan lets clinics balance bill. That means they can charge more than what Ottawa will cover. The patient is on the hook to pay the difference, and that dollar amount can vary greatly. But Dr. Bruce Ward with the Canadian Dental association says balance billing is one of the reasons why nearly all dental clinics are now accepting patients through the program.
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Angie Seth
To restrict the amount that dentists can charge for any given procedure would make things more difficult for the dental offices and therefore more roadblocks in the way of everybody participating.
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Marina von Stackelberg
Ward says there's another common reason why some people aren't rushing into the dental chair.
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Angie Seth
A lot of people really don't like going, and they'll avoid it at all costs. So it's not unusual that people have coverage but don't use it.
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Marina von Stackelberg
Hamilton senior Shelly Rose Charvet wanted to use the program.
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Briar Stewart
I was approved, but then it turned out to be much more expensive to use it than to not use it.
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Marina von Stackelberg
Her dentist wanted to charge her hundreds of dollars in extra tests to make sure her claim would get approved. It ended up being cheaper for her to just pay out of pocket.
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Briar Stewart
Didn't bother reapplying because I thought there's no point.
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Marina von Stackelberg
Victoria senior Louise Huneck says her dentist has started charging patients in the program an annual $50 administrative fee.
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Briar Stewart
I don't think that's in the spirit of what this was supposed to be about.
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Marina von Stackelberg
Health Minister Marjorie Michel says the insurance plan will continue to be improved as more people use it.
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Angie Seth
They will reach out to their dentist when they need. So I feel to have people enrolled in the program is key for them to have the opportunity to go.
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Marina von Stackelberg
So far, the federal government has paid for more than $3 billion worth of dental work. On average, that's $800 per patient a year. Marina von Stackelberg, CBC News, Ottawa.
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Briar Stewart
It's a stark contrast to the urgency and pace of the battlefield, the often slow and inefficient process of acquiring and delivering the equipment Canadian soldiers need. Now a new federal agency will try to speed things up by changing how the military procures equipment and where it comes from. Tom Perry has more.
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Angie Seth
Many governments have talked about it, and over the last couple months I've realized why it never got done because it was very, very difficult to do.
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Tom Perry
It can routinely take the federal government years and sometimes decades to provide the military with new aircraft, ships, vehicles, and other vital equipment. But Stephen Fuhr, Secret of State for Defence Procurement, says that's about to change. Fuhrer today announced a new government body to oversee and accelerate defence spending, a new defence investment agency.
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Angie Seth
The goal or aim of this agency is to equip the Canadian armed forces with the tools and equipment they need at the speed of relevance.
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Tom Perry
This new agency will be headed by a CEO, Doug Guzman, a former deputy chair of the Royal bank of Canada. His job will be to streamline procurement by cutting red tape and eliminating duplication in an approval approvals process that right now requires multiple departments to sign off on a project before it gets a green light. Fuhrer says the agency's other job will be to wean Canada's military off of US Suppliers as much as possible, with more emphasis on purchasing from European and other allies and ideally buying Canadian. But conservative defense critic James Bazan doesn't see anything in the Liberal plan that will make anything better.
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Angie Seth
Creating another level of bureaucracy and red tape will do nothing to actually improve the procurement that our troops need desperately to get the kit that they require to do the job that Canada needs them to do.
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Tom Perry
Wendy Gilmour is more hopeful. She's former Assistant Secretary General for Defense Investment at NATO.
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Nicole Williams
One of the things that I think is really positive about this announcement is.
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Briar Stewart
That there's a specific acknowledgement of the.
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Nicole Williams
Need to speed things up. And so that will mean a consolidation.
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Briar Stewart
Of certain capabilities that exist at the.
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Nicole Williams
Moment in Canada in a number of different departments.
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Angie Seth
And we'll just have to see how.
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Nicole Williams
It all plays out when it's underway.
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Tom Perry
How this plays out will be a crucial test, with Canada weighing its purchase of American F35 fighter jets, shopping around for new submarines, all while pledging to dramatically boost defense spending across the board. The question is, can this government succeed where others have failed and finally speed things up? Tom Perry, CBC News, Ottawa.
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Briar Stewart
A Conservative leader also wants the government to speed things up on bail reform. Pierre Poliev is calling on the Liberals to fast track his party's proposed legislation dubbed the Jail Not Bail Act.
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Angie Seth
We don't need the Liberals to do anything.
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Inayat Singh
We just need them to get out of the way.
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Angie Seth
Mark Harney promised he would reverse Liberal bail laws. And here we are a half a year later and those laws are still in place and they haven't even introduced a bill.
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Briar Stewart
The Private Members Bill would prevent anyone convicted of a major offense in the last 10 years from getting bail. It will be debated later this month. The Kearney government, meantime, is expected to introduce its own bail reform legislation this fall. Coming right up, the latest on today's attack on a synagogue in the UK on the holiest day in Judaism. Also, years of wildfires have destroyed homes, forests, prairie here and around the world. But all those disasters could also provide clues for how to better prepare. And tariffs on Canada's auto sector are hitting numerous communities hard. We'll have an inside look at one, Oshawa, Ontario, later, we'll have this story.
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Nicole Williams
I'm Nicole Williams in Ottawa. In exactly one month, most Canadians will be turning back their clocks to daylight standard time. And some love it. Many hate it. And more Canadians are asking, why do we keep doing it?
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Angie Seth
The time has come to address time change.
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Nicole Williams
A member of Parliament is now looking at what it might take to ditch the switch. That's later on youn World Tonight.
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Briar Stewart
The attack was deadly, the timing and location apparently deliberate. A man went on a rampage outside an Orthodox synagogue in Manchester, England, today, leaving two people dead and four others wounded, a terrifying event that came on the most important day on the Jewish calendar, Yom Kippur, amid a disturbing increase in anti Semitic incidents in the United Kingdom. Briar Stewart has the details.
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Vicky
Police sealed off roads outside of the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation Synagogue in Manchester after the holy day of Yom Kippur was violently shattered in an attack that the police have called terrorism.
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Stephen Watson
Two members of our Jewish community have sadly died.
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Vicky
Greater Manchester Police Chief Constable Stephen Watson.
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Stephen Watson
Armed officers from Greater Manchester police intercepted the offender and he was fatally shot.
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Vicky
That moment and the ones just before it were caught on camera by passerbys. A car rammed pedestrians on the sidewalk outside of the synagogue and a man got out brandishing a knife and began to stab people. Police feared that the suspect was wearing a bomb. Seconds later, they shot and killed him as it appeared he was getting up. Police later said the device the man was wearing wasn't viable.
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Briar Stewart
I'm Jewish and absolutely terrified.
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Vicky
Vicky, who only wanted to be identified by her first name, lives near the synagogue and not far away from a residential street where police arrested three people on suspicion of preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism. The police also announced that officers would be deployed to synagogues and Jewish schools across the UK where security is already heightened. Since the Hamas led attack on Israel on October 7, 2023 and Israel's ensuing war in Gaza, there's been a disturbing rise in anti Semitic incidents in the UK, more than 1500 were reported in the first half of this year.
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Angie Seth
There was a feeling of inevitability about it.
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Vicky
Alex Hearn says he was part of a volunteer patrol at his London synagogue Wednesday. He's co director of the organization Labor Against Antisemitism.
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Angie Seth
An example needs to be set because we can have all the security guards in the world and that can't protect us from this climate of hate that's growing.
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Vicky
The UK's Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, called an emergency cabinet committee meeting and tried to reassure the Jewish community.
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Stephen Watson
And so I promise you that I will do everything in my power to guarantee you the security that you deserve.
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Vicky
Meanwhile, police are continuing their investigation. They've identified the suspect as a British citizen of Syrian descent and are still looking into his motive. Briar Stewart, CBC News, London.
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Briar Stewart
With a potential Gaza ceasefire deal on the line, the White House says the US President needs to hear from Hamas soon. Spokesperson Caroline Levitt says Donald Trump gave the militant group a four day deadline to accept his plan.
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Marina von Stackelberg
It's a red line that the President of the United States is going to have to draw, and I'm confident that he will. This is an acceptable plan and we hope and we expect Hamas should accept.
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Angie Seth
This plan so we can move forward.
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Marina von Stackelberg
With a more peaceful and prosperous Middle East.
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Briar Stewart
And Hamas is reportedly still reviewing the plan. It calls for the group to disarm and return the remaining hostages held for nearly two years. In return, Israel would release hundreds of Palestinian prisoners and end the fighting in Gaza. Israel's prime minister has already said he supports the deal. Now, since the October 7 attacks, Israel has been tightening its grip on the west bank, expanding settlements, threatening annexation and altering the lives of thousands of Palestinians. Paul Hunter visited the Jordan Valley in the west bank, where there is fear about what could happen next.
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Stephen Watson
On a hillside along the Jordan Valley in the occupied West Bank, Ibrahim Salameh climbs his way up a pile of cinder block rubble, which until two weeks ago was his house. He lived here until the day Israeli forces pulled up with heavy equipment and flattened it, saying he had no permit. My life is over, he told us. I'm unable to feed my children. I was unable to protect my home. There's nothing I can do. Salameh, a farm worker, is far from alone in his worries. The broad fear in this region, as the world's attention is focused on the Gaza Strip, is that Israel is slowly, surely moving toward taking swathes of the occupied west bank, toward annexing the fertile lands in the Jordan Valley farmed by Palestinians. For so long, a notion Israeli politicians have talked about for decades. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged as much back in 2019 with a campaign promise to take the Jordan Valley that was met with international condemnation, and Netanyahu didn't follow through. In recent days, the condemnation reignited when Netanyahu seemed to suggest he's still intent on it. Meanwhile, Israeli forces regularly demolish Palestinian structures here, often, it says, to enforce building regulations. Azim Hajj Mohammed, mayor of the village of Firush Beyette Dijan climbing on his own pile of rubble. What was meant to be a civic building knocked down earlier this year, he says, by Israeli forces, again citing permit issues. Mindful of gunshots, he says he hears regularly from Israeli settlers up on a nearby hilltop. Grateful for support for Palestinian statehood from Canada and other countries, he's determined, he says, to stay put. We say that we are on our land, he says. We will keep this land and we will not leave it. Echoed at this fruit farm a few kilometers away, where owner Mohammad Sade, who supplies dates for clients in Canada and worldwide, told us Israeli forces raided the place this week, leaving it intact. But his workers rattled. We want to live in peace, he says. We don't want to start a war. We want our children to live to have rights like anyone else around the world. All of it's left Palestinians here, including Ibrahim Salameh, still standing on the remnants of his house with a simple message to Israel. What do you say to Benjamin Netanyahu? What have we done? He says. Why is this happening? Paul Hunter, CBC News in the Jordan Valley in the occupied West Bank, Alberta.
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Briar Stewart
Is recording its first measles death since an outbreak began in March. Health officials say a baby was born prematurely and died after the mother contracted the virus during pregnancy. There have been more than 1900 measles cases in the province since the outbreak started. Researchers have crunched decades of data about wildfires and found that no corner of the world is safe. Even places where fires have been rare. Wildfires have quadrupled in frequency, with nearly half of the most damaging fires happening in the last decade. Anayat Singh reports on how all that new data could help make communities more resilient.
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Inayat Singh
A 73 year old man stands in the blackened rubble of his home from Andong, South Korea.
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Briar Stewart
I was this close to paying off.
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Inayat Singh
My mortgage to Altadena, California.
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Briar Stewart
I've been homeless for a year trying.
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Inayat Singh
To get something built to Jasper, Alberta. These are the lives impacted after wildfires destroyed destroy homes and communities, leaving nothing behind. Now a new study has linked Together, the dangers for people who live in fire risk areas. With access to a gold mine or proprietary data normally only available to insurance and finance companies, researchers showed how destructive wildfires are affecting people on every continent in areas considered fire prone and not. John Abatsoglou, professor at the University of California, Merced, co authored the paper.
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Angie Seth
I think for wildfires in many environments, it's not a question of if a fire is gonna happen, it's more about when it's gonna happen.
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Inayat Singh
Out of 200 of the most destructive and deadly fires in the past 44 years, nearly half happened just in the past decade. And there's useful information in that data that could help avoid future damage. University of Waterloo professor Jason Thistlethwaite looks at ways to reduce the economic impacts of disasters.
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Angie Seth
You're seeing a scenario where billions of dollars annually and damage are being created by actually only a small area spatially relative to, for instance, let's say, Canada's vast boreal forest. That's a good news story because it gives us that bullseye of where we ought to be prioritizing the resources to do something about it.
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Inayat Singh
The study maps out areas of high fire risk, highlighting places where people are most vulnerable and where people should prepare.
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Angie Seth
We know what to do. We know how to defend communities from wildfire. We can build wildfire resistant communities.
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Inayat Singh
That includes adaptation measures like growing the right kinds of trees and plants to make communities more fire resistant, something wildland firefighter and University of British Columbia professor Matthew Bourbonnet says more communities must consider.
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Angie Seth
There's no avoiding these wildfires. How do we use what we know about mitigation through thinning and prescribed fire to better prepare? How do we create more defensible spaces?
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Inayat Singh
All important questions for people as they prepare for a new fiery era. Inayat Singh, CBC News, Toronto.
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Briar Stewart
Stalled by U.S. tariffs and years of declining production, Canada's auto industry is gearing up for yet more pain. Looming cuts at GM's plant in Oshawa, Ontario, are expected to drive mass layoffs across the company's supply chain. Christian Divino has more now on what's happening and how anxious workers are preparing.
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Angie Seth
I grew up just over this side here. My kids live four minutes that way.
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Todd Forbes
Walking through a park in his south central Oshawa, Ontario neighborhood, Todd Forbes points off into the distance, showing where each of his children live. He knows it well. It's the only place he's ever called home. The 48 year old works at TFT Global, one of General Motors suppliers. He was given notice over the summer that his job would be cut and worries he won't be able to find something else in Oshawa.
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Angie Seth
If there's nothing that's really producing here, then it's time to sort of move elsewhere.
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Todd Forbes
The downsizing at TFT Global is a result of looming layoffs at General Motors. The Automaker is eliminating 750 jobs in January. Another 1,000 cuts are expected across GM's supply chain, flooding workers into a struggling Oshawa market where unemployment is already amongst the highest in Canada. Forbes is now wondering if moving provinces is a better option for his future.
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Angie Seth
Is there a job possibility where I'm making the same kind of money or a little bit less? What can I get with that amount of money?
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Todd Forbes
Some of Oshawa's jobs are going across the border to Fort Wayne, Indiana. Earlier this year, the plant hired 250 workers to build the Chevrolet Silverado trucks that are also made in Oshawa. Rich La Tourneaux is with the local United Auto Workers union in Fort Wayne. He says his union never lobbied to take Canadian jobs, but when the company.
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Angie Seth
Comes to me to increase volume, I'm not going to tell them no either because it's job security for my people and hell if I can corner the market, I will.
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Todd Forbes
The Oshawa cuts show how US President Donald Trump's tariffs are hammering Canada's auto sector and driving a wedge between autoworker unions. Jeff Gregg is president of Unifor Local 222, representing GM workers and parts suppliers on this side of the border.
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Angie Seth
It's not that we're angry with the uaw. They're our brothers, they are our sisters. But at the same time, we compete for business and the playing field right now is not very level, and that concerns us.
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Todd Forbes
Fort Wayne resides in Allen County. People there supported Trump's Pro Manufacturing America first message, voting for him in 2016, 2020 and 2024. Richback is a commissioner with the county.
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Angie Seth
We've seen a significant increase in just phone calls and interest in moving plants in. So from that respect, the tariffs must be working.
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Todd Forbes
But tariffs aren't working for everyone. GM is forecasting a $5 million hit this year. Meantime, Uniform plans to keep the fight going and wants a federal trade deal to be struck that' Forbes wants, too.
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Angie Seth
It's not just a community that I'd have to give up. It's the family being close.
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Todd Forbes
A sentiment echoed across Canada's auto industry, with workers caught in the headlights of an ongoing trade war. Christian Devino, CBC News, Oshawa.
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Briar Stewart
It's a debate that re emerges in Canada like Clockwork. Should we or shouldn't we have daylight saving time? Well, that's the question that's back on the table in Ottawa exactly a month before we fall back to standard time. Nicole Williams has the details. The time has come to address time change.
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Nicole Williams
Ottawa area Member of Parliament Marie France Lelande on Parliament Hill this afternoon, bringing up the age old question, why do we need to change our clocks in Canada?
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Angie Seth
It is a practice that increases costs. There's more road accidents. Studies show increases in heart attack, strokes.
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Nicole Williams
And even miscarriages following time changes. Those are just some of the reasons why Lalonde is putting forward a private member's bill that would see the formation of a Pan Canadian conference on seasonal time change. Dr. Rebecca Rabia from the Canadian Sleep Research Consortium would be among those exploring whether to abolish the time changes that most Canadians endure during the spring and fall.
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Angie Seth
This is a complex question, Lalonde says.
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Nicole Williams
It's a long shot, but it is doable.
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Angie Seth
Time regulation is a provincial and territorial jurisdiction, but what we can do and we must do is bring all jurisdiction to the table.
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Nicole Williams
There are several regions in Canada that have already ditched the switch, including most of Saskatchewan and parts of bc, Nunavut and all of the Yukon. Andrew Smith led the project to end seasonal time change in that territory back in 2020.
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Angie Seth
The idea was like, can we move the daylight so that there's a little bit left somewhere for people to grab onto?
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Nicole Williams
He says most people are happier to have extra sunlight in the evenings, which we get with daylight savings time. But it doesn't account for people like Amy Pickethley in western Quebec, who appreciates the extra morning light during standard time in the fall.
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Angie Seth
We definitely wouldn't want to be waking up in the dark. I need the light, want the light when I get up. And I know the kids. It would be difficult for them as well.
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Nicole Williams
As for people like Mike Vahabi in Toronto, he's proposing what he calls super daylight savings.
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Angie Seth
The first weekend in August, we would jump ahead another hour. I think that would do a lot for businesses who rely on people being out in the evenings. I think it would make it safer for kids to play sports and to continue being outside in the summertime.
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Nicole Williams
Okay, that's even less likely to happen. But Lalonde says regardless, these are possibilities worth exploring for the benefit of everyone. Her private member's bill is scheduled to be formally tabled next week. Nicole Williams, CBC News, Ottawa.
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Briar Stewart
Finally, the world bird photographer of the year is a Canadian Vancouver photographer, Leron Gertzman. He beat 30,000 other wildlife photographers from around the globe. I'll let Geertzman describe the winning photo. The frigate bird and the diamond ring.
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Angie Seth
Yeah. So this is a photo of a total solar eclipse, but there is a magnificent frigate bird, this spectacular pterodactyl esque massive bird flying right across the total solar eclipse as the very edge of the sun is becoming visible. That's a moment known as the diamond ring.
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Briar Stewart
It was a fleeting moment that took years of planning. Going over maps of upcoming solar eclipses, trying out different cameras with different shutter speeds, and then spending days before the event watching a particular flock of birds in not ideal conditions.
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Angie Seth
I made a plan where, using a boat, I would position myself next to some kind of small islets off the coast of Mazatlan. During the eclipse, it would get dark. The birds would think it was nighttime. They'd fly into their island to roost. And using a boat, I'd be able to kind of get underneath them while they were doing that. Fortunately, that prediction came true. It was exactly what happened. And bobbing up and down on this little coast off the west coast of Mexico, I was able to see hundreds of frigate birds flying in front of the most spectacular thing I've ever seen.
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Briar Stewart
No tripods or steady footing, but Gertzman says you have to take chances to get a photo that's never been taken before. He's been taking photos of nature since he was 5, using what he calls a very basic camera. And he credits where he comes from for his ability to see nature in a certain way.
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Angie Seth
You know, being born and raised here in Vancouver, I do feel incredibly fortunate to have access to remarkable natural phenomenons right on the doorstep. The salmon run going on constantly. Huge numbers of birds and bird migration through the Pacific Flyway down the west coast of British Columbia. So I really credit this part of the world to kind of getting me involved in this career and this passion.
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Briar Stewart
Gertzman won around $6,000 for the prize, but he says the biggest win was using his photography to show how beautiful nature can be. Thanks for being with us. This has been youn World Tonight for Thursday, October 2nd. I'm Angie Seth. Chat soon.
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Angie Seth
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