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Mercedes Gil Hernández is the founder and director of Montessori British School, a hybrid school offering on-site, virtual, and residential education. She spent years working in international banking before a growing concern about widespread financial illiteracy pushed her toward education. She discovered Maria Montessori's philosophy of independence and autonomy and built a school around it, starting as a traditional Montessori program in Spain before evolving into a fully personalized, flexible model where no two students share a timetable. In this conversation, we discuss about why she built her school from scratch rather than work within the existing system, how Montessori's principles of self-directed learning let her draw a direct line to Bitcoin's ethos of self-custody and independence, why she got the British accreditation after refusing to restrict families' freedom to travel, and why she believes the most overlooked investment is the next generation.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Download the free report on second citizenships & setting up a plan B in another country with Expat Money: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn, get 0.25% off your first loan: https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Mercedes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mercedesgilhernandez Montessori British: https://www.montessoribritish.com/ Montessori on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/montessoribritish/ Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up...01:31 - Introduction: Mercedes Gil Hernández01:38 - From Banking to Montessori Education04:58 - Why Build Independently From Traditional Education?07:12 - Inside the School: 100 Students, Personalized Timetables10:18 - Ad Break: Expat Money & Ledn12:34 - How Is A Personalized Program Built & How They Operate14:57 - Vision: Decentralized Home Schooling Support Model16:29 - Model Your Children, Guide Them. They're The Forgotten Citizens17:45 - The Next Generation Is the Most Important Investment21:23 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines23:10 - Why Bitcoin in the Classroom24:42 - British Qualifications Instead of Spanish Accreditation29:40 - What Gives Mercedes Hope

What if Bitcoin and quantum physics are pointing to the same truth? At BTC Prague, Efrat Fenigson sits down with Jeff Booth for a fireside chat that goes beyond economics and into the fabric of reality itself: consciousness, energy, spirituality, and the quantum nature of existence. This is a rare opportunity to explore how the deepest questions about who we are intersect with the world we are building.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Jeff Booth on X: https://x.com/JeffBooth Jeff Booth on Nostr: https://tinyurl.com/6dpdv7ff BTC Prague on X: https://x.com/BTCPrague Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat

Charlene Fadirepo is a former Federal Reserve regulator turned Bitcoin strategist, Author and Consultant. After a decade in banking and consulting, she arrived at Bitcoin through a decades-long search for a financial system without bias. She co-authored “Bitcoin and the American Dream” alongside Jimmy Song, took that work to Capitol Hill, and later wrote “The Bitcoin Leap”, about bitcoin grassroots adoption in Africa. She is also the founder of Satoshi Sister Circle, a leadership and career network for African and African diaspora women. In this conversation, Charlene walks through what she witnessed inside the Fed, why she sees CBDCs as unambiguous surveillance tools and what she thinks about stablecoins, as well as why Africa doesn't need Bitcoin, Bitcoin needs Africa.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Charlene on X: https://x.com/CharFadirepo Charlene on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlenefadirepo/ The Bitcoin Leap Book: https://tinyurl.com/ynd4z3fv Satoshi Sister Circle on X: https://x.com/Satsistercircle Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up...01:34 - Introduction: Charlene Fadirepo02:55 - From Wall Street to the Federal Reserve: Disillusionment09:26 - Ad Break: Ledn, Trezor & Abundant Mines12:23 - Finding Bitcoin: Rules Without Rulers18:11 - The Problem With Trust-Based Financial Systems20:52 - Inside the Fed: What It's Really Like22:42 - Should The Fed & Centralized Planning Co-Exist With Bitcoin?24:37 - Bitcoin Treasury Strategy: How to Pitch the Boardroom30:02 - US vs. EU Regulation: MiCA, the Genius & Clarity Acts35:15 - KYC, the Travel Rule & the Original Promise of Bitcoin38:18 - CBDCs, Stablecoins & the Surveillance Question45:24 - "The Bitcoin Leap": Africa as Bitcoin's Greatest Proof of Concept52:59 - Building Satoshi Sister Circle59:51 - What Gives Charlene Hope

Win Ko Ko Aung was born in Burma (Myanmar) in 1993 and grew up under military rule, shaped by a country still reeling from the 1987 overnight demonetization that wiped out his parents' generation's savings. A tech entrepreneur and youth educator, he entered the Bitcoin space in 2019 as a way to preserve economic energy in a country with few reliable financial options. When the 2021 military coup froze the bank accounts of activists and democracy supporters, including his own, his Bitcoin holdings remained untouchable and became his lifeline out of the country. He crossed the jungle from Burma into Thailand without a passport, eventually reaching the United States as a political refugee. Today he works at the Human Rights Foundation, where he has taken part in educating over 1,400 activists and journalists worldwide on Bitcoin, financial freedom, and privacy tools. Win shares how financial oppression operates as a weapon of authoritarian control and why Bitcoin is the most important human rights technology of the 21st century. → Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Win on X: https://x.com/wkkaung Win on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/winkokoaung/ Win on Nostr: https://tinyurl.com/5n6ttws9 HRF’S website: https://hrf.org/ Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up...01:28 - Introduction: Win Ko Ko Aung04:25 - The 1987 Overnight Destructive Demonetization 09:10 - The 2021 Military Coup and Frozen Bank Accounts11:10 - Bitcoin as Economic Lifeline16:05 - Escaping Burma: Crossing the Jungle into Thailand16:25 - Ad-Break: Ledn, Trezor & Abundant Mines19:20 - Arriving in America and Joining the HRF27:31 - What Win Teaches Activists and Journalists 30:16 - CBDCs: What People in Free Countries Should Do34:09 - Bitcoin Is a Peaceful Revolution

Terence Michael is a Hollywood TV producer, storyteller, and Bitcoin educator known for his cinematic, analogy-driven videos, and he co-hosts the daily show on X - "Bitcoin Today". When Covid shuttered his Airbnb properties and production work, Terence pivoted decisively into Bitcoin, eventually selling around twenty properties to go all-in. That journey gave him the material for his book Proof of Money, which argues that humanity has never actually had real money until now. We walk through his Vegas 2026 keynote "The Bitcoin Hero's Journey," the Hollywood storytelling framework he uses to map Bitcoiner's transformation, and why he believes Bitcoin is not a hedge or an alternative but an upgrade to everything.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Join me at Europe’s largest bitcoin conference - BTC Prague, June 11-13, 2026. Code EFRAT for 10% off: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Terence on X: https://x.com/ProofOfMoney Terence on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/produceyourself/ The Bitcoin Hero’s Journey Keynote: https://tinyurl.com/ync24kfw Proof of Money Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2RM94BB Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up... 01:24 - Introduction: Terence Michael 04:02 - His Content Creation Process & Storytelling 07:20 - The "Bitcoin Today" Show 12:48 - "The Bitcoin Hero's Journey" Keynote 15:32 - Ad-Break: Ledn, Trezor & Abundant Mines 18:23 - The 12 Stages: Walking Through the Hero's Journey 32:08 - From Hollywood & Real Estate: Terence's Journey 36:18 - Cash Flow & Liquidity Challenges 39:30 - Proof of Money: The Book, the Thesis, the Audience 43:28 - Are We Still Free? CBDCs, Surveillance & Health 48:11 - Where to Follow Terence

Mauricio Di Bartolomeo is the Co-founder of Ledn, the leader in Bitcoin-backed lending. He grew up in Venezuela, living through the early tremors of what would become one of the most dramatic monetary collapses in modern history, before coming to Canada in 2003. His front-row seat to hyperinflation under Chavez and Maduro shaped a deeply practical understanding of how money, debt, and institutional trust actually function, and gave him the conviction to build Ledn, which has issued over $10 billion in loans since 2018 and holds an estimated 30% market share in consumer Bitcoin-backed lending globally. We cover what hyperinflation actually feels like from the inside, why the wealthy borrow while everyone else is told to save, the philosophical debate over whether Bitcoin-backed debt is morally sound, and what the recent seismic shifts in Venezuela's political landscape mean for an oppressed country. → Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Join me at Europe’s largest bitcoin conference - BTC Prague, June 11-13, 2026. Code EFRAT for 10% off: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Mauricio on X: https://twitter.com/cryptonomista More about Ledn: https://ledn.io/EfratEfrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up...01:24 - Introduction: Mauricio Di Bartolomeo03:28 - The First Bitcoin Asset-backed securities (ABS) Bond07:26 - Institutional Appetite: S&P Ratings & the ABS Market10:25 - How Bitcoin-Backed Loans Work: Risk, Liquidation & Trust14:15 - Ad Break: Ledn, Trezor & Abundant Mines17:10 - Debt as a Tool: The Bitcoin-Backed Loan Philosophy19:48 - Venezuela & Chavez: Growing Up With Inflation21:34 - Inflation vs. Hyperinflation: Two Different Phenomena29:20 - Surviving Hyperinflation: Your Second Job Is Converting Your Paycheck31:29 - Shorting Fiat: How the Wealthy Use Debt to Build Wealth39:18 - Debt and Bitcoin43:21 - Venezuela: Frozen in Time44:55 - Signs of Hope: What Changed on January 3rd48:30 - Bitcoin 2026: Conference Outlook

Paul Keating is building freedom tech with Primal, a Nostr client that puts digital sovereignty back in users' hands. Based in Costa Rica, Paul lives entirely on a Bitcoin standard as part of Bitcoin Jungle, one of the most vibrant circular Bitcoin economies in the world. A surfer, new father, and tireless advocate for freedom-first technology, Paul joined me at Bitcoin 2026 in Las Vegas for a conversation that has been a long time coming. We covered what a truly sovereign life looks like day to day, how Bitcoin and Nostr function as nature's response to broken money and broken social media, the open protocol future Primal is building toward, and the upcoming Bitcoin Jungle documentary - Hummingbird.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Join me at Europe’s largest bitcoin conference - BTC Prague, June 11-13, 2026. Code EFRAT for 10% off: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Paul on Nostr/Primal: https://primal.net/paul Paul on X: https://x.com/thepaulosophy Paul on IG: https://www.instagram.com/paulinthejungle/ Hummingbird Movie: https://indeehub.studio/film/hummingbird Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up...01:23 - Introduction to Paul Keating03:18 - Life in Bitcoin Jungle: Costa Rica, Family & Surfing06:32 - Building a Bitcoin Circular Economy10:14 - Ad-Break: Ledn & Trezor11:54 - Bitcoin Jungle App: Lightning, Off-Ramps & Self-Custody14:31 - Nostr: Why Should You Care?18:06 - Inside Primal: Vision, Features & the Open Protocol22:30 - Censorship Is Structural: Platforms, Telegram & Efrat's Story27:29 - Digital Health: Balancing Analog Life with Digital Tech33:31 - Ad-Break: Abundant Mines34:52 - Sovereign Living: Community & Network States38:23 - Hummingbird: The Bitcoin Jungle Documentary

Janice McAfee, the widow of tech and privacy legend John McAfee, opens up about what really happened around his mysterious death. Together they spent nine years navigating an extraordinary life at the intersection of freedom, surveillance, and survival, and traveled through the Bahamas, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, and Spain as U.S. authorities pressed for extradition on tax and SEC-related charges. When John was detained in Spain in October 2020 on an Interpol red notice, Janice remained in the country throughout his nine months of imprisonment. She learned of his death in June 2021 through a Twitter DM, before any official message. Three years of legal battles followed before she received his body, and the questions surrounding his death never left her. Now channeling John's mission through the AIntivirus Project for privacy tools, she explains why carrying on this fight is the only way to honor what he stood for.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Join me at Europe’s largest bitcoin conference - BTC Prague, June 11-13, 2026. Code EFRAT for 10% off: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Janice’s X: https://x.com/theemrsmcafee AIntivirus’ Website: https://www.aintivirus.ai/ Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up...01:40 - Introduction to Janice McAfee02:49 - Life on the Run with John McAfee: Bahamas, Cuba & Spain07:49 - John Behind Bars in Spain & His Paranoia12:32 - Ad-Break: Ledn & Trezor14:08 - Last Court Date & Final Phone Call18:45 - Finding Out Through a Twitter DM21:10 - Question Marks Around John's Death26:45 - "Is John Still Alive?" - Janice's Answer29:33 - Carrying His Legacy: AIntivirus Project, Redemption & Purpose33:16 - Ad-Break: Abundant Mines35:23 - Keonne, Bitcoin Prisoners & the Fight for Sovereignty40:33 - Janice & John's Mission & Legacy

Lyn Ulbricht is Ross Ulbricht’s mother. Ross was the founder of Silk Road, who received a double life sentence plus 40 years without parole before being granted an unconditional pardon by President Trump after nearly 12 years of incarceration. Rather than stepping back after that hard-won victory, Lyn channeled her experience, platform, and network into founding MACS (Mothers Against Cruel Sentencing), a nonprofit dedicated to exposing the reality of excessive sentencing inside the U.S. justice system. At the Bitcoin Vegas Conference 2026, she joined me to share what it was like when Trump personally called to announce the pardon, how Ross is adjusting to life on the outside, why she sees Bitcoin colleagues still behind bars as prisoner of war from a war declared over, and why the fight for justice is far from finished.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Check out BTC Prague: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT (code EFRAT = 10% off)→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Join me at Europe’s largest bitcoin conference - BTC Prague, June 11-13, 2026. Code EFRAT for 10% off: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Lyn on X: https://x.com/lyn_ulbricht MACS (Mothers Against Cruel Sentencing): https://mothersagainstcruelsentencing.org/ Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up…01:12 - Introduction to Lyn Ulbricht03:55 - Bitcoin POWs: The War on Crypto Is Not Over06:37 - The Day Trump Called: Ross's Pardon10:34 - Founding MACS: Mothers Against Cruel Sentencing10:59 - Ad Break: Ledn & Trezor12:34 - Ross After Prison: Freedom & Healing15:12 - Cruel & Unusual: Ross's Sentence & the 8th Amendment17:53 - What’s MACS (Mothers Against Cruel Sentencing)22:12 - Beyond Ross: Sentencing Injustice Across America27:43 - The Prison Industrial Complex: Who Profits from Incarceration30:48 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines32:09 - Prisoners Prefer Torture Over Time in Prison35:21 - Crypto Prisoners & Prison Reform36:35 -Hope Comes From Faith, Miracles & Not Giving Up39:30 - Where to Follow Lyn

Hakeem Anwar is a software engineer with over 20 years in tech, and the founder and CEO of Above Phone, a conscious technology company building open source phones, laptops, and software services that free people from reliance on Big Tech. After years of building web and mobile apps for large corporations, he walked away from corporate life during Covid. He also runs Take Back Our Tech, a weekly show covering the biggest stories in tech - always with solutions. Hakeem has done extensive research into the global digital ID rollout, co-authoring the "Life Under Digital ID" report, which maps how 90% of countries already have operational digital ID or will within three years. In this conversation, we discuss global standards enabling biometric interoperability across borders, why "voluntary" always becomes mandatory, and Hakeem demonstrates the Above Phone on screen, making the case for why the window to migrate to open protocols is closing faster than most people realize.→ Please like, comment, share & follow — to help me beat the suppressing algo's. Thank you!– SPONSORS –→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn — learn more at https://ledn.io/Efrat → Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link– AFFILIATES –→ Enjoy $50 off any Above Phone purchase using the code EFRAT: https://abovephone.com/ → Check out BTC Prague: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT (code EFRAT = 10% off)→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (Note, this is not medical advice, please consult your MD)→ Join me at Europe’s largest bitcoin conference - BTC Prague, June 11-13, 2026. Code EFRAT for 10% off: http://btcprg.me/EFRAT→ Be good to your eyes & health, and get the Daylight tablet - a healthier, more human-friendly computer, zero blue light & flicker. Use code EFRAT for $25 off: https://bit.ly/Efrat_daylight → Get a second citizenship and a plan B to relocate to another country with Expat Money, leave your details for a follow up: https://expatmoney.com/efrat→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat– LINKS –Hakeem on X: https://x.com/takebackourtech Hakeem’s Substack: https://tbot.substack.com/ Take Back Our Tech’s Website: https://takebackourtech.org/ Digital ID report: https://abovephone.com/digital Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigsonEfrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigsonWatch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoiceSupport Efrat’s work: https://bit.ly/zap_efrat– CHAPTERS – 00:00 - Coming Up...01:23 - Introduction to Hakeem Anwar07:23 - "Life Under Digital ID" Report: 90% of Countries Already In16:24 - Global Standards Making It Interoperable19:36 - Ad-Break: Ledn & Trezor21:16 - Biometric Tracking, Digital Opt-Out & the 2027 Window30:48 - Above Phone: What It Is and Why It Matters37:15 - Private Messaging: Signal, XMPP & the Funding Problem40:34 - Ad-Break: Abundant Mines41:56 - Decentralized Protocols & the Open Internet47:55 - Above Phone Mission & Features58:50 - GrapheneOS x Motorola & Age Verification Laws1:08:16 - Nostr: Self-Sovereign Identity as Antidote to State Digital ID1:17:09 - Where to Follow Hakeem