276: Addiction, Hallucinating, & Psychedelics

Summary

Podcast Summary: Zane and Heath: Unfiltered
Episode 276: Addiction, Hallucinating, & Psychedelics
Release Date: March 24, 2025

In Episode 276 of "Zane and Heath: Unfiltered," hosts Zane, Heath, Matt, and Mariah engage in a heartfelt and candid conversation about addiction, specifically focusing on vaping, the challenges of quitting, and the exploration of psychedelics as potential coping mechanisms. The episode offers an insightful and relatable discussion for listeners navigating similar struggles or seeking to understand the complexities of addiction and recovery.

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1. Mariah’s Journey to Quit Vaping

The episode prominently features Mariah’s personal battle with vaping addiction and her determined steps toward becoming vape-free.

• Initial Decision and Commitment
  Mariah announces her decision to quit vaping, marking her first 30 hours without it. She shares the difficulty of breaking a decade-long habit:

  "10 years I've been smoking vape from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep." ([11:07])

• Using Nicotine Alternatives
  To manage cravings, Mariah turns to nicotine gum, describing her initial struggle with its strong flavor but eventual effectiveness:

  "I took a piece of gum, right? And as soon as I took it, I was like, oh, this is really strong... the feeling went away pretty quick." ([12:46])

• Support from Friends and Hosts
  Heath and Matt provide support and share their own experiences with quitting substances, emphasizing the importance of treating the process seriously and avoiding triggers:

  "Treat it like you are, do the whole quitting process of nicotine." ([13:49])

• Strategies for Success
  Mariah discusses practical strategies such as avoiding social settings where vaping is prevalent and using tracking apps to monitor her progress:

  "I'm on day two right now and like it's like I swear it's working." ([15:50])

2. Coping Mechanisms and Mental Health

The conversation shifts to broader mental health topics, including the role of psychedelics and sound baths in mental clarity and relaxation.

• Sound Baths and Psychedelic Experiences
  Matt shares his challenging experience with a 90-minute sound bath in Thailand, highlighting the difficulty of maintaining focus and the calming effects of such practices:

  "I felt like the AC was kind of distracting me." ([46:26])

• Mental Clarity Through Travel
  The hosts reflect on how traveling, such as their recent trip to Thailand, contributes to mental well-being and provides a respite from daily stressors:

  "I can't wait for it to, like, to feel how clear I get in like a month." ([15:49])

3. Social Dynamics and Lifestyle Changes

The episode delves into how quitting vaping and other substances alters social interactions and daily routines.

• Impact on Social Activities
  Heath and Matt discuss how abstaining from vaping and alcohol has changed their enjoyment of social activities, making certain pastimes less fulfilling without substances:

  "Now it's not like fishing with alcohol. It's just fishing." ([30:32])

• Adjusting Social Circles
  The hosts highlight the necessity of surrounding oneself with supportive individuals who encourage sobriety and healthy habits:

  "Surround yourself with people that are gonna encourage you to keep going." ([28:12])

• Developing New Routines
  Mariah and Heath share their efforts to build new, healthier habits to replace old dependencies, such as using vegan gum and avoiding environments that trigger cravings:

  "I'm gonna do this, now is the time. I'll start tomorrow and have a clean day." ([34:35])

4. Reflections and Encouragement

In the concluding segments, the hosts reflect on personal growth, offer encouragement to listeners battling addiction, and share humorous anecdotes about their lives.

• Encouragement for Listeners
  Mariah motivates listeners to embark on their own journeys to quit vaping, emphasizing mutual support and accountability:

  "So start the next day with me and let's see how far we can go." ([34:07])

• Humor and Relatability
  Throughout the episode, the hosts infuse humor into their discussions about serious topics, making the conversation more engaging and relatable for listeners.

• Future Commitments
  Mariah expresses her determination to eliminate other habits like nail-biting, indicating a broader commitment to self-improvement:

  "I'm going to stop biting my nails." ([60:36])

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Mariah on Her Vaping Habit:

  "10 years I've been smoking vape from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep." ([11:07])

• Mariah on Nicotine Gum:

  "I took a piece of gum, right? And as soon as I took it, I was like, oh, this is really strong... the feeling went away pretty quick." ([12:46])

• Heath on Overcoming Triggers:

  "Surround yourself with people that are gonna encourage you to keep going." ([28:12])

• Mariah’s Encouragement to Listeners:

  "So start the next day with me and let's see how far we can go." ([34:07])

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Conclusion

Episode 276 of "Zane and Heath: Unfiltered" offers a sincere and supportive exploration of addiction, centering on the challenges and triumphs of quitting vaping. Through Mariah’s personal narrative and the hosts' collective experiences, listeners gain valuable insights into effective strategies for overcoming addiction, the importance of a supportive social network, and the role of mental health practices in maintaining sobriety. The episode not only sheds light on the struggles associated with addiction but also inspires hope and determination for those seeking to lead healthier, substance-free lives.

Listeners are left feeling encouraged and equipped with practical advice to tackle their own battles with addiction, making this episode a meaningful addition to the series.

Transcript

[Zane]

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[Heath]

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[Matt]

Are those still your wedding extensions or you don't have. There's no extensions in your hair.

[Mariah]

You sure about that?

[Unknown]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[Mariah]

I see a clip.

[Heath]

I love that audio. You sure about that?

[Unknown]

It would look much better if I had extensions in.

[Matt]

Wow, it looks really good.

[Mariah]

It looks thick today. Looks voluminized.

[Matt]

Do you get like keratin treatments or stuff on your hair? No.

[Unknown]

Oh, I. I do nothing to my hair. It's pretty bad actually.

[Matt]

How often do you wash it?

[Unknown]

I wash it every time I'm in the shower.

[Matt]

I know.

[Unknown]

Girls.

[Matt]

Really?

[Mariah]

That's. Yeah. I. I was told that like, for hair especially, you wash it like once every like week and a half, two weeks to keep the oils in your hair.

[Unknown]

Because, like, mine gets so dirty. I think because like, I touch it so much throughout the day that it just gets filthy. So I just, I don't want dirty hair. I just wash it.

[Matt]

Yeah, sometimes I just want to feel clean. I want to do some stuff while I'm in the shower and it' like this is something to do. I feel like wash my body and wash my face and I'm like, well.

[Mariah]

Showers are really quick when you don't have to wash your hair or I'll.

[Matt]

Just get like a tiny little dab of like shampoo in conditioner just to make.

[Mariah]

At least make it smell nice or make it feel clean. So I would do that sometimes I've.

[Unknown]

Done the move where I just stick my head in the tub and just shampoo, like my bangs so it looks nice and keep the roots, like a little oily.

[Matt]

Swirling your head around, just baptizing yourself.

[Mariah]

Yeah. No, but that's. Yeah, I've had multiple people tell me that. So I just. Now I think about it, I was.

[Heath]

Like, I haven't used conditioner in years. Years and years and years and years.

[Mariah]

Yeah. I don't think you. I don't think you, like, need to.

[Heath]

Get oily, and it just makes it like ten times worse.

[Matt]

Shampoo. I feel like we've talked about this before.

[Heath]

Shampoo is like the soap. It's like the cleaning.

[Matt]

It cleans the hair.

[Mariah]

And conditioner condition just makes it soft and nice.

[Matt]

And it also helps your scalp out, too. Right?

[Mariah]

I don't know. I heard.

[Unknown]

I don't put conditioner in my scalp.

[Mariah]

Yeah. I was told not to put conditioner.

[Unknown]

I just do the.

[Mariah]

Only in the ends.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Unknown]

Like, mine just gets the knots.

[Mariah]

I just rub it around.

[Unknown]

You know what? Who care do we of? It's all the same.

[Mariah]

I know.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

I get moments where I just want to buzz my hair. I'm like, I'm going to buzz my hair off and see.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Mariah]

But then I.

[Matt]

My complaints, though, with like, shampoo and conditioner bottles and stuff. Change up the heads or make it really distinct. Which one shampoo? Which one's conditioner? I always go in going, God, is. Is the conditioner and this.

[Mariah]

Well, which ones are you using? I feel like they're pretty.

[Heath]

Some brands do a really good job of having, like, the opposite where it's like, you can tell which is which, which. I like the same theme, but. Yeah.

[Matt]

Well, I guess ours are like down on a rack in, like, the corner. And so I'm always looking down onto them.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

So I can never see what's on the bottle, but I'm just like, put a little C and an S on the top of these.

[Mariah]

I. I get it. But, like, you could just read the. I feel like it's pretty big on the bottle.

[Matt]

Even though they're probably in the same position every time. No one's picking them up, but my brain is just.

[Unknown]

Conditioner usually has, like, a solid cap and.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Shampoo has a transparent cap.

[Heath]

Conditioner would always be like, the white cap.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Heath]

And then the colored cap would be the shampoo. Yeah. Depending on the vibe they're going for.

[Mariah]

I used to be the five in one cleanser. And like, in middle school and high School, Just all of it, from hair down to the same. The little bottle three, four and one.

[Matt]

It has like four in one. Five and one, three and one. All of those little combination ones. Have those ever been, like, proved that they're not good for you?

[Mariah]

No, they're probably terrible for you. You shouldn't be.

[Heath]

You shouldn't be rubbing your face with.

[Mariah]

Whatever you're rubbing in your hair.

[Heath]

L'Oreal, everybody, you know, shades it. Everybody hates it. Five in one, whatever. But then once you get to like, the Dr. Bronner's like 28 and one. Now all of a sudden, it's God tiering.

[Mariah]

Wait, Dr. Who?

[Heath]

Dr. Bronner's where?

[Matt]

It's the one that.

[Heath]

38 and one and now.

[Matt]

Yeah, it's like a who, like, is written on the entire, like.

[Heath]

But it's totally okay to use that for everything.

[Mariah]

Wait, let me see. What is it? Is it.

[Unknown]

It's everything.

[Heath]

Literally everything. You could wash your clothes with it. Your hair. You could brush your teeth with it.

[Mariah]

Oh, come on. No, it's not.

[Matt]

You brush your teeth with 18. What different type is 18 in one?

[Unknown]

I actually love this stuff.

[Heath]

You're really good. It is.

[Unknown]

It's. This one's peppermint. So it's like cooling when you wash.

[Matt]

Your body with it, not when it hits your balls. I've used that when I've had so psoriasis and stuff. But, man, when that gets a little down under, you're like. It's like. It's like a burning, cooling sensation. It feels like someone put Icy Hot.

[Mariah]

So mostly your people are using that to clean themselves.

[Heath]

Totally. Okay. For some reason, you can also wash.

[Mariah]

Your clothes with it. That's pretty crazy.

[Heath]

I like it.

[Mariah]

Good for them.

[Matt]

I want just a really nice shampoo and conditioner that smells like kids. L'Oreal shampoo. Remember?

[Mariah]

Like, I can't even remember what. It smells like.

[Heath]

Watermelon.

[Matt]

The ones that look like the little fish.

[Mariah]

No, no, I know. I know what you're talking about. I just can't think of what the smell good.

[Matt]

I would be in the bathtub as a kid and then just huffing that, like. Yeah, just going, this smells great.

[Mariah]

Don't they make it, like kind of or not edible? Sorry.

[Heath]

It's strawberry smoothie.

[Mariah]

Yeah, it makes it kind of like where you can almost like. Like lick it a little bit and you'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They make it like that. Even, like, even Chapstick, where you can like, eat a little bit. Those, like, those edible ones, the Coffee.

[Heath]

Flavor, Like, latte ones. Yeah.

[Matt]

It's perfect for potion making. When you're a kid, you know, you're in the bathtub, and you're like, I'm just gonna do a little mix of everything. Yeah.

[Mariah]

Remember those notepads where you get to write on it and you're just like, all right. And then you eat. It's those edible sticky notes.

[Matt]

Sticky notes? Yeah.

[Mariah]

You wrote something.

[Heath]

You wrote.

[Unknown]

It was edible paper.

[Mariah]

Edible paper, yeah.

[Matt]

Question about baths. Bubble baths specifically. Do bubble baths provide any benefit, or is it just all for looks?

[Mariah]

Bubble baths? No, I. You're talking about bath bombs. Like, bath bomb.

[Matt]

Bath bombs. I understand. Have, like, stuff that's good for your skin because it's almost like a mini. Like, Epsom salt.

[Mariah]

Bubble bath does not. Not help.

[Matt]

That's just all for looks.

[Mariah]

No, you're putting. It's soap. It's soap in the bathtub, and you're. That's all. If you put, like, salt in it.

[Heath]

I think it's Epsom salt. That's good.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah. A little bit of privacy so some other people can be in the bathroom.

[Heath]

Nothing worse than being in, like, a bathtub. And the. The bubble bath, like, it starts to spread out a bit, and you're, like, losing your bubbles.

[Matt]

You're like, we all know what that looks like.

[Heath]

Like, bringing the soap.

[Matt]

You're trying to, like, take a picture.

[Mariah]

So embarrassing. You don't want to. You do not want to be caught by paparazzi in the bathtub like that. You don't.

[Matt]

When was the last time you had a proper bath? Well, for you, baptism, but baptism.

[Heath]

Like, at least once a year.

[Matt]

I need a good soak. I think. I haven't had a bath in a while.

[Mariah]

Like, when you're. When a body part is, like, hurting, you soak in with, like, salt.

[Heath]

Sometimes it's just, like. It's a. A nice treat. Especially now that this house doesn't have a hot tub. So it's kind of like our old house. We would just be like, all right, let's just go in the hot tub.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

Hot tubs are. I hate baths. I hate. I. I'm starting to hate bats. I'll get in. I'm just like, oh, okay. This kind of sucks.

[Matt]

Okay, let's go. All right.

[Mariah]

Like, I want to be in and out of the shower as fast as possible.

[Matt]

I'm just like, what am I doing here? Like, toys. Give me rubber ducks.

[Unknown]

We have the tray that goes across, so I'll put my computer and, like, work.

[Matt]

Zap.

[Mariah]

You Work. You'll work in the bathtub?

[Unknown]

Of course. I'll have drinks, snacks, Like, I'll do a whole.

[Mariah]

I understand, like, watching something, like, in the bathtub. But, like, I'm surprised that you're touching while you're in the water.

[Matt]

Do you think with technology now, like, if that laptop fell in a bathtub and you're in the bathtub, would you die?

[Heath]

Great question. I. I don't know.

[Matt]

You know, it's always like the cliche with the toaster. You do that and it zaps you. Because I think that's more of, like, a hardware.

[Mariah]

It's hardwired in there. So if her computer was charging and then it fell in, then she would get electric.

[Matt]

But I think. But a toaster has, like, an active electrical current. That's what's, like, toasting it. And when that's like.

[Heath]

We would have heard a lot of stories about laptop.

[Matt]

Again, if your phone fell, it wouldn't kill you because that falls in pools and stuff.

[Mariah]

But if it's connected to the cord, I feel connected to the wall.

[Matt]

Right.

[Heath]

Very low risk. But if the laptop itself could be. Yeah.

[Matt]

Mariah would just. Just not save her eyelids, just like always droop.

[Mariah]

Can you type in if it's plugged into a wall?

[Matt]

I don't think so. Because I feel like if it's funny, it's connected, it's going to the battery reserve, though. Like, it's not a constant active loop, you know?

[Heath]

See, I think it has to do with. You can get a shotgun voltage wattage.

[Matt]

Let's try it out.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Hey, can you run us a bath real quick?

[Mariah]

A toaster is, like, the most common when. When you think of it, you think of a toaster.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

It had to be from a movie, right? Like, if it really popular.

[Matt]

The ring.

[Mariah]

It was the ring.

[Heath]

I feel like it's. It's all over.

[Matt]

Oh, it's in the ring. It's in Groundhog Day. Remember the ring where she. She goes back to, like, find. Samara's like a dad.

[Mariah]

I'm surprised you remember her name. Matt Samara.

[Matt]

There's a girl coming out of the tv.

[Mariah]

This is on my flow.

[Matt]

It's toothpaste. I got you again.

[Mariah]

I remember that movie. Made me just, like, want something like that. It's just crazy.

[Matt]

All right, so we run that.

[Mariah]

Yeah. Yeah. We're losing ourselves. It's coffee time, baby. Welcome back to Zany, Heath. Unfiltered I'm Zane.

[Heath]

I'm Heath.

[Matt]

I'm Matt.

[Unknown]

I'm Mariah.

[Mariah]

And I am One day, vape free.

[Heath]

Very good, Z. Wow.

[Mariah]

I started. I started yesterday. Yesterday morning, I woke up and stopped. I was like, no vaping.

[Matt]

One week later.

[Mariah]

No, no, it's up every. Guys, this is my. Right now. It's been, I would say, like, 30 hours, including my sleep, that I was not good. I would. I've never been 30 hours without a Vapet in the last 10 years.

[Matt]

Whoa.

[Heath]

How you feeling?

[Mariah]

10 years I've been smoking vape from the moment I wake up to the moment I go to sleep.

[Heath]

And in his sleep.

[Mariah]

Remember the jewels? Remember the jewels?

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

Yeah. I was smoking every day, even back during the Jewels.

[Matt]

Damn.

[Mariah]

Crazy.

[Matt]

So do you. Are you having any oral fixations, though? Like, are you craving? So, like, hitting a vape?

[Mariah]

So I'm an idiot. I thought quitting a vape. And then because. Because I was gonna start with gum. Like, nicotine gum. Yeah, actually, Lucy sent me, like, a whole package.

[Matt]

That's. That.

[Mariah]

Yeah, it's. Yeah, it helps.

[Heath]

It's. It's kind of like a new Nicorette almost.

[Matt]

It looks pretty hip. Like. Yeah, Nicorette. Like, it sounds like a edgier look.

[Mariah]

They sent. They sent me a pack.

[Heath]

So you're doing the gum now instead of smoking?

[Mariah]

Yes. I'm going to try. I'm going to try the gum. Because the worst part about vaping is just, like, the smoke that you're inhaling the. The chemical fucking juice, and it's, like.

[Heath]

Sitting in your lungs.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Heath]

And I. I've been jealing.

[Mariah]

Exactly. And I, like. I would say once a week for the past, like, two years, I look at him, like, I'm gonna. Like, I'm gonna. This is gonna kill me one day.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

And I just, like, kept on doing. I, like, didn't care.

[Heath]

It's good.

[Mariah]

I'd get back to it. And I was like, this is gonna kill me one day. I should stop. And I just would never, ever stop. And now I want to stop.

[Matt]

Have you gotten rid of all of the vapes in this house? Have you done a full purge and making sure.

[Mariah]

No, I have not done a purge yet because I. So I took. I took a piece of gum, right? And as soon as I. I took it, I was like, oh, this is really strong. Right? And you get that feeling if you don't usually do, like, nicotine gum, and the feeling goes away.

[Heath]

I remember I tried, like, when I tried a piece of Nicorette, like, you feel like you're like. Like you got, like, an apple in your throat, and you're like, oh, or.

[Matt]

Yeah, it's like you swallowed like a bunch of cinnamon or it's like very spice. It feels spicy like. You know what I mean? Like it just feels like hot.

[Mariah]

But that feeling went away pretty quick, I should say in the first like what three minutes was when I was on the call with you and the feeling of a vape was just disgusting to me. It just went away. I was like, oh yeah, I don't need the. But. But then I was like, heath, I don't actually.

[Matt]

This is.

[Mariah]

This might work. Like I don't think I'm gonna get withdrawals. Like no, Zane, you don't get withdrawals until you quit nicotine. I was like, oh, I didn't think. I thought the v. I thought the. The vape is what really caused.

[Heath]

I was like, you're still gonna be like annoyed because you like wanna like you're used to smoking a vape. I gonna want like just the act of smoking. I was like, but you're not gonna like have the withdrawal symptoms and like the freak out and like be like, you know, kind of like on edge or whatever unless you fully quit.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Heath]

I was like, but treat it like you are. I was like, do. Do the whole like quitting process of nicotine. But if you like are feeling like you're you know, freaking out or you're having like a panic attack, like have a little bit of the gum to like ease you back but don't go to smoke.

[Mariah]

Like don't ever go.

[Matt]

The craving will go away. Like.

[Mariah]

Yes.

[Matt]

By having that, you know, your moment with the gum or whatever, like type of pouch you go, oh. After. I don't need to hit that vape because the craving has been satisfied.

[Mariah]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm on day two right now and like it's like it. I swear it's working.

[Heath]

That's good.

[Matt]

You're not like Pavlovian and saliva crazy.

[Mariah]

Because like I am like I. I'm at like a. I'm a baby.

[Heath]

I used to like when I quit cigarettes. I remember looking at other people smoking cigarettes and it would. Everything in me would like like I wanted it so bad. Like I couldn't be around it.

[Matt]

Oh it's.

[Unknown]

I couldn't. I couldn't imagine like sitting in this room and you guys all have a slice of pizza and I don't like.

[Mariah]

That'S what you have. That makes me have it.

[Unknown]

Thinking about that. I swear that makes me sick.

[Matt]

When you quit cigarettes and you smell someone else having a cigarette. It's like Cinnabon, like or you know what it is?

[Unknown]

Like, it's like that thinking about the smell of pizza. That's crazy.

[Matt]

You never would think that smell would be, like, so good. But, man, when you smell, you're like, I need that.

[Heath]

It's so good. Until, like, you're years after. And when you smell a cigarette, you're.

[Matt]

Like, oh, someone comes in after they've been smoking a cigarette, you're like, damn, that's how I smelt all the time.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

This is a good time for you to do it though, because I feel like you've been busier than ever.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Keeping your busy. You're gonna. It's kind of like when you forget to eat all day because you're so busy. Like, you're gonna be like, oh, I didn't have time to pick it up, so I feel like it'll be easier.

[Mariah]

Yeah. And I. I can't wait for it to, like. To feel how clear I get in like a month. Because I'm sure I'm gonna feel completely different in a month when I don't have all that vape juice in my system.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

I love.

[Heath]

You're gonna, like, cough it up, like in the shower and stuff. Like, it'll start clearing.

[Mariah]

I know I was. I actually bought this. I bought this. I don't know if you've seen this lady on Tick Tock. She's all over my Tick Tock. She's just like, late. The older lady, long gray hair. And she's always like, talking about health tips. Do you know who I'm talking about? She. She said, for if you're quitting vaping, buy. Buy this. And this will drain all that. All the. The. The out. Got it after you quit, so I bought it.

[Matt]

Oh, is this.

[Mariah]

That's her right there. Yep, that's her right there.

[Matt]

Barbara O'Neill. We talked about it.

[Mariah]

Oh, that's Barbara O'Neill. Okay.

[Matt]

New Zealand, Australian. Yes. Yes.

[Mariah]

So I bought it because she told me to buy it. I don't know if it was AI. I feel like AI is like they could do anything with it.

[Matt]

A lot of times her videos lately have been AI, God. You gotta make sure when she's talking that the voice is matching up to what she's saying. Usually they'll start putting text over, like.

[Heath]

Get one word to match and then cut to, like, something I did.

[Mariah]

But I feel like they're able to get it the whole way.

[Matt]

Right.

[Mariah]

What they want you to say.

[Matt]

You got to kind of do some double checking.

[Mariah]

We looked up. So what I was curious about Because I honestly don't know how much nicotine I ingest every with it with the vape. And we looked it up.

[Heath]

He called me. He was like, could you. Could you do the math on this? So his vape has 50 milligrams per milliliter, and there's 8 milliliters in the vape of vape juice. So it's 400.

[Mariah]

I'll finish the vape in two days.

[Matt]

Oh.

[Mariah]

So I'm ingesting about 200 milligrams of nicotine every single day for the past.

[Matt]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mariah]

Terrible. So what's great about Lucy is that I am now ingesting it little throughout the day.

[Matt]

Right.

[Mariah]

Where I'm getting that fix and I'm not ingesting a ton of vape smoke in my body.

[Matt]

What I struggle, though, with, like, because I still struggle with vaping. Like, I'll occasionally vape, and then I can't use those Jones nicotine mints that I love. Those help me so much. The thing is, is I like when the vaping is that it's this one moment of consuming the nicotine and then it's over. And then time passes. I don't need it. But with the pouches and the gum, you're like, you're sitting always wanting with the nicotine experience, like, longer. That's where. So when I do have gums or when I do have the mints, I'll have them in for, like, maybe like two minutes. And then I'm like, get this out of my mouth.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Because it's already later, but it's like, I don't want to sit with it.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And that's where I wish the nicotine alternatives still had a briefness but weren't.

[Mariah]

Like, well, or you could just maybe eat, like, a little bit of the gum. You don't have to have the whole gum. Like, I've been, like, splitting in half. So I, like. I'll buy a little piece, I'll put it down, and then I'll, like, work with it.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

And then. But I still have that same gum, you know, it still has the same amount still in there. You just take it little by little.

[Matt]

Yeah. That's how you should approach it.

[Heath]

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[Mariah]

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[Matt]

The biggest test for you, though, is the moment you're going to be so stressed about something. Like, I'm talking, like, you are when you reach a huge peak and you're like, God, you're gonna be so angry with the world.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And you're like, I need my vape. Like, that's the biggest challenge.

[Heath]

You'll be okay.

[Mariah]

Really. So. So for me, I thought, I thought a bigger challenge and too much stress is when I'm drunk.

[Heath]

Yes.

[Matt]

Oh, and even drinking.

[Mariah]

I think drinking is the biggest test.

[Matt]

Because your inhibitions are going to go lower. Then you're going to be like, who cares? Maybe I'm just going to do it on the weekends. You're going to start like, no, I know.

[Mariah]

That's exactly what I would say.

[Heath]

Your brain is your worst enemy when you're trying to quit something. Like, because you will full on convince yourself that, like, it's okay, you deserve a treat. Like, and your brain will, like, start lying to you. And you're like, this is crazy.

[Mariah]

Your brain, but your brain.

[Heath]

I was like, do not go out for, like, weeks, like, at least two weeks until you, like, are fully good. Because, like, I was like, if you go out drinking, like, you're not gonna, like, you're gonna want to hit the vape. I was like, just stay away.

[Mariah]

But I don't know, a part of me, I think after a week, I don't know.

[Heath]

I just don't test it. What were you about to say?

[Unknown]

I was just gonna say that's what you started doing. You stopped going out for a really long time because you knew if you went out, you would have to drink. So you were like, let me just avoid that because then the outcome is going to be just right back where you started.

[Heath]

And then with cigarettes too. Like, I knew. I knew as soon as I would have like a beer or two, I was gonna want that cigarette. I was like, I. I just can't be around it.

[Unknown]

And once you got over that hump, you were like, oh, I can hang around people who are drinking and smoking and I have no cravings and I'm totally fine.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

When I would go out, when I was quitting vaping and when I quit vaping the first time I did no nicotine, I went like full cold turkey, which made it really tough to do because I had nothing to go on. And I remember being at a bar when everyone was out there and I was getting straws from the bar just to like, suck on an empty straw just to satisfy something. And I remember being at the bar and it got, you know, normally you see until 2, it was like 10:30 and I'm like, I'm going home. I'm not having a good time because I couldn't get my fix. And I'm around everybody who was.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And I'll never forget that night going, getting my Uber and was like, this sparks me no joy by being out, which is terrible.

[Mariah]

That's crazy.

[Matt]

Since can control your own happiness of being around people.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

That badly.

[Mariah]

Crazy.

[Heath]

It's true.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

I wake. I would wait. Like I literally the night before I stopped, I wake up with it in my hand. It's in my. Like, I wake up, Matt. I wake up and it's crazy. It's on my cheek and I'm like, damn, baby. And I look at him like, oh, my God. I don't even take two seconds. I don't look at my phone. I don't look at anything. I just go. And then, and then, and then I'm up. And then like, oh, I can't.

[Matt]

Yeah. I've never been able to like, like rise and consume nicotine.

[Heath]

No. But like, I remember like. Like I loved waking up and having a cigarette. So, like, I get it.

[Matt]

The coffee.

[Heath]

I get it.

[Mariah]

I wanna. Oh. And so right now my goal is to never, ever touch a vape ever again.

[Heath]

Good.

[Mariah]

Right?

[Unknown]

Good.

[Mariah]

Cigarettes. I don't really, like, I've never, like, been like, addicted them. They're so gross to me still. I. I know that I will never get back into everyday smoking ever, ever again if I just never touch a vape.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

And it doesn't matter what vape it is. It could be like any Vape. Any electronic vape that I could smoke. I'll be good if I never touch one again.

[Matt]

Get rid of them.

[Heath]

You got it.

[Matt]

You got to purge all of them.

[Mariah]

Well, but I needed. I was gonna collect them because I wanted to, like, put them in a.

[Heath]

I think that point, though, like, you need to be. What you're saying right now, you need to be disgusted by it. You have to be like, I will never do this. Like, you. It's hard to quit something when you're like, I love it, though. Like, you're at the point right now where you're like, I'm done with this. Like, and that's a good thing. Like, you're disgusted.

[Unknown]

Very strong.

[Heath]

And that is going to help with quit.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

I mean, the gum is helping a lot.

[Matt]

It really is great, though, that you're quitting, because I feel like, you know, once again, I still struggle with it. But you. I would say, like, you enable me. Like, I don't do it because you do it.

[Mariah]

But, I mean, I was really bad.

[Matt]

I make compromises with myself where I'm like, well, if Zane's doing it, then I can do it. Because that's the same thing with cigarettes. When everyone stops smoking cigarettes. I was like, well, I don't want to be the only person to go outside to smoke a cigarette. You become just, like, very lonely. And it's. And that's a great reason.

[Mariah]

And I noticed that, like, I'm the only one, like, whenever we go out anywhere, I'm, like, one of the only ones that are still, like, smoking just, like, publicly out in front of everybody like that. And I never got to see myself, so I was never disgusted by it. But, like, what really. Like, what really grosses me out when I'm watching, like, videos. And in the video, you see me in the back, like, pulling out of Ave and Smokey, and I'm just like, ew. I even get disgusted by. When I'm in a restaurant, I see somebody else with the same vape as me, pull it out and start smoking. I go, ew. But then I remember that I do the exact same thing. And I did it, like, five seconds.

[Heath]

Oh.

[Matt]

And there's nothing worse when, like, you're out drinking, like, someone takes a photo and you don't realize, like, you have it in your hand.

[Mariah]

Every single photo.

[Unknown]

Kind of, like childish. Like, you're like.

[Mariah]

It's like a pacif.

[Matt]

It's like little kids toy. It's this Fisher Price, like, little.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Embarrassing.

[Matt]

Yeah, it's wild. Well, good for you.

[Mariah]

Thank you. I just don't want to die soon. Like, I. It will kill me if I don't stop. So I, like, I have to do it.

[Matt]

I don't think you're gonna die soon, but it would be the reason why you die.

[Mariah]

I've seen people die from vapes after smoking it for five years. That we've seen. It's not good for you.

[Matt]

We're good on you.

[Heath]

You got this.

[Matt]

Do you have a counter, like, an app that's like, keeping track?

[Mariah]

You know what? I was gonna text you the other day, but I. I decided to wait.

[Matt]

Text me to.

[Mariah]

I was gonna ask you that app that you used.

[Matt]

It's like that to count so many different ones out there. I. It's. I don't even remember what the name of the app was. It's look up sobriety Counter.

[Mariah]

I. I honestly don't think I need it.

[Matt]

I like, kind of good the moments you are craving it, you really want it, then you look at that and go, damn, I've come this far.

[Heath]

And you don't just, like, reset it.

[Matt]

Because then you remembered when it was eight days, and now you're at 40 days. And you, like, I've come a long way. I remember just visually how it looked. And now I'm in the double digits. Let's get it to triple.

[Heath]

How long did you stop for?

[Matt]

I think I stopped for three or four months. And I relapsed. Remy's. Remy's birthday party. I relapsed.

[Heath]

The casino cruise birthday party. That one?

[Matt]

Yes. Because I wore a. It was the casino one. Yeah, on the boat. And I was wearing one of my old, like, you know, sports coats I hadn't worn in a while. And I'm out there partying, drinking and everything, hammered.

[Heath]

And I'm like.

[Matt]

And I start touching, like, the insides of my pockets. I go, what's in this? I'm like, oh, found some cash. And then I find my old vape, the little hype Max Flow, Cherry Freeze.

[Mariah]

And that was the devil testing you.

[Matt]

And I was like, yeah, surely this still doesn't work.

[Heath]

I should. I should try. And I hit the batteries.

[Mariah]

And it hit perfectly.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And then.

[Mariah]

And that was. And that was.

[Matt]

That's what I was struggling with, is like, I'm making that promise to myself to not nicotine and, like, holding myself accountable. But then I'm like, but am I going to get in trouble if I hit it? Like, who's. Who's going to.

[Heath]

Who's going to put me in timeout?

[Matt]

Right? That Who. That's the. That's how bad my mental convincing got, is that I go, I still have three.

[Heath]

That's going to happen.

[Matt]

I'm not going to lose my friends if I hit.

[Heath]

I'm not losing my job.

[Matt]

No one's going to, like, not love me anymore. Yeah, that's so sad. Getting to that where you're like, fuck it, I'm still going to be fine.

[Heath]

Your brain is crazy.

[Matt]

It's not like alcohol. I mean, alcohol is, like, that's, I think, really serious. Anything. You should always commit to making good health decisions and maintain sobriety. But alcohol, that can be a terrible thing when you break that sobriety and you can't stop and you go full downhill. That's really.

[Mariah]

This is probably crazy to say, but, like, thank God I don't have problem with alcohol because I love alcohol. I love. I love a good drink. I'm just glad that, like, I don't have a problem.

[Matt]

And it just knows sobriety is not a linear journey. Like, yeah, people do mess up in sobriety. And the biggest thing is just still holding yourself accountable, getting back into it. It's. You're not. It's still like, I'm not saying, like, oh, break your sobriety, but just know, like, you can, like, be forgiven.

[Mariah]

If you're gonna break it, break it.

[Unknown]

With style and surround yourself with people that are gonna encourage you to keep going.

[Heath]

Like, in the beginning, when you're. When you are quitting something, people don't realize that, like, it's serious until you're a year into it. Really?

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Like, they're like, what's it been, like, four months? What are you really gonna. Like, what are you gonna do? Never do it again? I'm like, I don't know. I don't know.

[Matt]

Right.

[Heath]

And then once it got to a year, people are like, oh, this is like, yeah, I guess he really isn't.

[Matt]

Did you ever have friends who, like, I guess. Yeah. What you're explaining is that they're, like, teasing you, like, what, you're not gonna do it again? But did your relationships with, like, certain friends and stuff change because alcohol, like, wasn't involved?

[Heath]

Like, no, just because, like, my friends are like, everybody. Anyways. It's not like I had, like, a group of, like, going out friends that I, like, only drank with. You know what I mean? Like, it was just like, yeah, I.

[Matt]

Sometimes struggle, but I will never give them a hard time. But I struggle with, like, it's. I guess friends from, like, back home and then they are, like, sober, not like, they needed to get sober, but just, like, personal challenge. And they were able to make it really far. Made had success in the year. They didn't drink and go, well, I'm going to keep doing this. But they were friends. If I'm back in town, I love getting drinks with them and being up to our typical shenanigans. And now when we hang out, I'm drinking, but they're not. And it's this, like, I want to phrase it where I'm disappointed, but then I'm like, oh, okay. But maybe is it okay if I drink in front of you? Or it kind of just sometimes changes, like, different dynamics because you're like, yeah.

[Mariah]

No, I don't think you don't just. You shouldn't drink because they don't drink.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

Or that would make him feel uncomfortable.

[Matt]

I'm just talking out loud, so I'm kind of like, like, should we invite that one friend? Oh, they don't drink anymore. Do we still want them to come out? Or, like, it can. It's like a little social dynamics. There's like. I don't know.

[Heath]

I think the worst part about, like, quitting alcohol, though, is, like, it just made everything more fun, and I did it with every everything. So, like, now it's not like fishing was fun, but then, like, when I would, that was like, fishing with alcohol. Like, once it, like, yeah, it was like a whole new level. I'm like, this is. This just got even more fun. And then, like, once you quit that, it's just like, oh, it's just fishing. It's like, yeah, I still like fishing, but it's not fishing with alcohol.

[Mariah]

Yeah, that's how I feel with driving.

[Heath]

Exactly.

[Mariah]

It's a joke, guys.

[Heath]

But, yeah, like, everybody activity was, like, heightened because of.

[Matt]

And it's wild how your brain was wired to that, where the only way I can have fun is with alcohol.

[Mariah]

Golf.

[Matt]

Golf.

[Mariah]

That's another one.

[Heath]

Golf.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah. I'm gonna be out in the hot sun doing 18 holes.

[Heath]

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[Mariah]

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[Heath]

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[Mariah]

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[Matt]

That's like, I think we got better with this pod. We used to drink all the time on this pod. Yes.

[Mariah]

Oh, we did.

[Heath]

I used to drink every episode.

[Matt]

Yeah, we'd be doing it, like, on a Tuesday.

[Mariah]

But they were. They were bangers, though. People loved us drunk.

[Matt]

But we were able to train our brains and figure out we don't need this, like, crutch to get us through these.

[Mariah]

Exactly. This is filled wine cooler. Exactly.

[Unknown]

From the. I don't know how to say this without being that person, but I just. Because I know there's people that watch from the other perspective. Like, my perspective. I. Fortunately, my whole life, I've never had a problem saying no to people that are trying to, like, peer pressure me into things. I get a high off of saying no and, like, doing the opposite of everybody else. Like, yeah, I feel on top of the world when I'm like, you're all, like, powering followers.

[Heath]

I don't need it.

[Unknown]

Right, Right. Like, sure. I didn't have as much fun, and I wasn't the person people would call to come hang out. But, like, it's so worth it if you get to that point where, like, you can still hang out and be totally okay and happy without being a follower.

[Heath]

Saying no. Saying no. I feel so rewarding with food, alcohol, everything.

[Unknown]

I know people feel like they're not fun or they feel like they're left out or what? Like, that is the least important thing. Like, like, it's so much. You're such a stronger person when you don't become a follower and you get to that point and it's just like, it's worth it. So keep pushing through.

[Matt]

I. That's why I say no to shots all the time. And I. You do saying no to shots where I'm like, no, it.

[Mariah]

It pisses me off.

[Matt]

People are like, that's where it works.

[Unknown]

Like, you just.

[Mariah]

What do I look like to you? Yeah, how about a hug?

[Unknown]

I'll take it. But what do I look like?

[Mariah]

How about a handshake?

[Matt]

I'm 32 now. I can say no to it. Because there was such a peer pressure when, like, you're like, like just starting drinking. Like, if everyone's doing a shot, I got to do it. I struggle with shots. If it's a huge celebratory moment, though, like, everyone's taking this to honor a moment. I'm like, I can't take.

[Unknown]

Well, you know what I do when people are cheersing a drink? I'll like, have some comedic relief that people are distracted that I'm not drinking.

[Matt]

I'll take.

[Unknown]

No, I'll take the candle off the table and cheers that. And they're like, I think it's so funny. It's a little distraction.

[Matt]

Oh, I toss things down.

[Unknown]

Are you holding up a candle?

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Heath]

They get so excited.

[Unknown]

Worked hold up anything but a. But a drink.

[Mariah]

So if you're right now listening and you are vaping, you got that sucker in your mouth. Haha. And you hitting that right now and you want to start, now is the time. We'll start tomorrow, have a clean day. So start the next day with me and let's see how far we can go. And I'll be honest. I promise I will.

[Matt]

Also, that book, what's it called? How to Quit Smoking by Andrew Carr or something like that.

[Mariah]

My book, don't smoke if you don't do it.

[Unknown]

If you go longer than Zayn, he'll give you like, what, 20 bucks a person?

[Mariah]

What?

[Matt]

People are gonna be lying. Yeah, here's my bimbo.

[Mariah]

Try other. Try other alternatives. Alternatives, yes. And because just sucking that vape juice. Oh, I'm. I'm this, like, spirit. Like, one day without you just. You just don't want to suck that vape juices. You don't know what those are made out of.

[Matt]

It's just crazy.

[Heath]

Like, guys, you're so much stronger than this.

[Mariah]

Like, yeah, I just don't Understand how people suck. Like battery. Battery acid of a pipe.

[Heath]

Guys, it's all up here. Seriously. Like, you guys just have to like lock in.

[Mariah]

Just lock the.

[Matt]

At like high schools.

[Heath]

And I was like, you.

[Unknown]

He's the new dare instructor.

[Heath]

Guys, I said yes to everything. And bro, didn't you quit three days ago?

[Mariah]

That doesn't matter.

[Matt]

I've seen some influencers who do like anti vaping and smoking campaigns. Like, I've quit and all this stuff.

[Mariah]

And then they go out and you.

[Matt]

See them doing it. It's like, I saw your damn ad about how you quit smoking. You quit. I don't say that to their face, but I judge inside.

[Mariah]

No, no, no. But like, no, I would never do a campaign like that. Like that and not actually quake. That's so bad. It's. If you get caught, it's really bad.

[Matt]

Right? The worst is just like the peer pressure temptation of like, maybe like, what if you were just hanging out with, you know, Willie Nelson? He's like, heath, you want some whiskey? And you're like, like, you know what I mean? Like that. I. I don't think would that break.

[Heath]

For the sake of like, moments where.

[Matt]

You'Re just like, this seems like such a great moment to do this. Like, that's bad. Like that.

[Mariah]

No, no, that is like a. It's an interesting situation where you really get tested. You're like, is this.

[Matt]

Oh, man, I know your brain can do that. Anyways, wait, what were we just. Oh, Coachella. I'm going. Oh, you are going to Coachella this year. I am.

[Mariah]

Didn't you tell me, Lind, last year you said, said, oh, maybe I was just going like to Thailand or something.

[Matt]

Last year we skipped it. We went to Seoul because it was just, you know, it costs so much money. But now, no, I got an opportunity to go. So I'm going and I'm pumped. I'm excited. Looking forward to it. I'm so jet lagged, guys. Like, really?

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

We came in on Sunday, like at 7am but we came from Thailand, which is 14 hours ahead tomorrow.

[Unknown]

Wild.

[Matt]

Yeah, we were able to adjust pretty well there. But coming back, it has been rough. And there's times like I feel like I'm living two days in one day. Like last night, I went to bed at 10. I woke up at 2:30 this morning, wide awake, like ready to take on the day.

[Mariah]

But you went to sleep at 10pm yes.

[Matt]

So I only slept four hours. So because I've been having these weird naps and stuff, I'm getting this like Deep REM really fast and then, then I'm like good to go. But then I crash later. So I Woke up at 2:30 this morning and then I was like I'm ready to take on the day. And I waited for the gym to open and I was just up at the gym at 5:30, first one in.

[Mariah]

That's amazing.

[Matt]

But then I took a three hour nap before I came.

[Mariah]

No, you can't do that. You have to stay up as long as you possibly can and then at night you go to sleep and you'll get your time.

[Matt]

If I didn't have the pod today, maybe I would have kept going. But I needed just some rest time. But it's been so discombobulating. But Thailand, how was it?

[Mariah]

Oh yeah, amazing.

[Matt]

Incredible.

[Heath]

In Cool.

[Mariah]

Was it exactly how you imagine this hotel?

[Matt]

Even better like compared to on the White Lotus like TV show.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Going there I felt even the resort was better than how it looks on the T on tv. Really exceeded my expectations because it looks.

[Mariah]

Small from our point of view when we're watching the show it looks like it's smaller than what?

[Matt]

All kind of like built into a hillside. So there's tons of villas, there's private.

[Heath]

Residences, like high end, like luxury. Or did it just feel like like.

[Matt]

Cool high end luxury. 10 out of 10. And I'm a tough critic on giving a hotel a perfect 10. Especially resort. Incredible service, incredible food, incredible accommodations.

[Heath]

Nice.

[Matt]

Oh my gosh. We had this incredible villa with the infinity pool and the view of looking out onto the beach and the hillside. I could not get enough of it.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And it's just wild how we're going to this resort when we're watching the TV show as well.

[Heath]

And you were there for a week, right? Right.

[Matt]

We were there for three nights. We stayed at another resort. Oh, but with the, but with the traveling. Yeah.

[Mariah]

Did y'all do like a little showing of the late, the latest episodes there?

[Matt]

They had like a private little white lotus like themed viewing thing.

[Mariah]

It was so fun.

[Unknown]

You were worried about not being. You were like how am I gonna watch the new episode?

[Matt]

They did tell us when we arrived cuz it had come out. They go, don't watch the new episode because we're all gonna watch it together on the last night. So we did all that together. But it was so fun like watching, going hey, that's where we are, like right here.

[Unknown]

That's crazy.

[Matt]

And it's kind of cool seeing watching the TV show in, noticing like oh that is in that part of the resort or Maybe they're shooting.

[Mariah]

They made it look like it was in another one.

[Matt]

And then there's some areas where you're like, that's not even at this resort at all. That must be on a sound stage or somewhere else.

[Heath]

Sorry, I know we probably already said it, but is every season is at a different location.

[Matt]

Every season is at a different four seasons around the world. And there's about 133, three, four seasons all across the world.

[Heath]

Okay, so it's known that they're at a four season hotel, but it's called.

[Matt]

The White Lotus on the show.

[Mariah]

Yeah, White Lotus is not a real.

[Heath]

Is Four Seasons Thailand.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Unknown]

So give me like a 10 second breakdown of what White. White Lotus is.

[Matt]

White Lotus is a show that's on Max and every season it takes place at a hotel with a wild cast of characters. Usually all of these very rich people and everyone's miserable. You have this very wealthy family. And acting.

[Unknown]

Or it's reality, it's scripted.

[Matt]

It's like murder. It's a murder mystery. Somebody dies in the beginning of every season. Oh, my gosh.

[Unknown]

I thought it was like a real world thing.

[Mariah]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Matt]

And you know who's the creator of White Lotus? The writer, Ed Schneebly. Mr. Schneebly from so. Yes. So it's always these.

[Unknown]

Actually, it's Schneebly.

[Matt]

Every person on the show is usually just like, yeah, once again, rich, neurotic, dealing with their own issues and just goes down. But you know that there's a murder and you don't know how it goes.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

So that's why you watch.

[Mariah]

And what's interesting about the show is that a lot of people, especially since it' right now, people are like, this show is like really boring. Nothing's happening. And like the whole point of the show is it's not supposed to be like an insane episode. Every time you're watching this. Like you're. It's like a slow, like cigarette, slow burn. Slow burn. You're watching it and you're. You feel like you're there with them. Like you're a guest at this hotel and you're just watching these ridiculous people all around you in this like crazy hotel. Kind of like what Matt, I'm sure you're experiencing like seeing like some of those characters at the hotel.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Third season. This is a third season, right?

[Matt]

The third season. Correct.

[Heath]

Got it.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And they usually. And it's usually a new. It's always a new cast of characters, but there's like one. One or two characters from a previous season who weave into the new.

[Mariah]

It's the same world every season. Yeah.

[Heath]

Is in this.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah. Walter. Oh, my God, Walter. Is it Walter Walton? Yeah. He's phenomenal. So resort incredible. The people of Thailand, I gotta say, are they. They. It's this go to, like, peaceful gesture is like their wade and their moment of like, peace and like blessing you. And they just. It's just this natural instinct for them to do it. Even you go by the McDonald's and the Ronald McDonald outside is like the statue is doing the peace symbol or the prayer symbol.

[Heath]

Oh, wow.

[Matt]

And so I just. I fell in love with just like the culture of Thailand. I totally dismissed it as like, oh, that's just a place where you go backpack in your early 20s and stuff's cheap. I didn't realize one. How beautiful it is. How insanely, insanely religious. But just how like, kind and peaceful and happy the people of Thailand seem to be from what I experienced.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And what else?

[Mariah]

How's our food?

[Matt]

Oh, fantastic. I love Tom Yum soup. Tom Yum soup is God's gift to man. I had.

[Mariah]

What's that again? What's that?

[Matt]

It's the hot and sour like soup.

[Mariah]

Oh, okay.

[Matt]

Great. When you're sick too. I mean, that can just kick a cold's butt. And then there's Tom cod. That's more of the coconut.

[Mariah]

I like those. I like the coconut curry. Curry dishes that they.

[Matt]

Oh, there's tons of different, like, curry dishes.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

I love me a pad Thai.

[Heath]

Pad Thai is so good.

[Mariah]

So good.

[Matt]

Phenomenal.

[Mariah]

I just want curry on rice with protein and just.

[Matt]

I will eat it up.

[Mariah]

So good.

[Matt]

I highly recommend if you guys guys ever are looking to do a big trip to go to this resort. It was phenomenal. Very expensive. Once again, this is like, this is a treat yourself type of location. It's. You got to save up.

[Mariah]

Can we ask how much it is a night? How much is it?

[Matt]

At least a thousand dollars a night.

[Heath]

Really?

[Matt]

At least at the low end.

[Mariah]

Wow.

[Matt]

And I don't even know how much the room we stayed in, but I felt like the room we stayed in could at least be two or $3,000.

[Mariah]

Wow.

[Matt]

Like, it was unbelievable. And what was interesting though, so. So not half of the all the properties on there are private residences. But there are private residences there. So the White Lotus, some of the characters are not staying in like the rentable villas.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

They're staying in like people's homes and shooting in their houses to make it.

[Mariah]

Look like they're in the.

[Matt]

Because they're just these bigger.

[Mariah]

And it's all outside. And the backyard is so like just out. You. You wouldn't even know if it was part of the hotel or not in the show.

[Matt]

And the vegetation out there, you feel like you're in, I would say like the rainforest. It's so dense and lush. They. They plant in every nook and cranny. When you're driving around that property.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Oh. Like, you know how like when you go to a resort by like day three, you kind of see the resort for what it is. Like the, the fairy dust is kind of like washed over and you kind of see the bones of it. You're like, okay, I get where I am.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Every day when we were just walking around, I'm like, this is beautiful. Every moment of it.

[Mariah]

Yeah. And did you do their spa? Spa?

[Matt]

I did their spa. Did a deep tissue massage.

[Mariah]

Oh my.

[Matt]

90 minutes, dude.

[Mariah]

90 minutes. Oh, he. Did you hear that? 90 minutes.

[Matt]

90 minutes. Oh, it was good.

[Mariah]

And step on my back.

[Matt]

I did a sound bath. Oh, a 90 minute sound.

[Mariah]

No.

[Heath]

It's crazy things about those.

[Mariah]

You will fall asleep quick. Can you meditate on a good one?

[Heath]

I've tried. I can't like get into like a full meditation, but I've heard mixed things about the whole sound bath where like, like they like do that thing around.

[Matt]

It, the bowls, and it's like this frequency. Like.

[Mariah]

Were you. Oh, no, you weren't with us when we did it for my doc.

[Heath]

You did it in like Palm Springs.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Or like Joshua.

[Mariah]

Joshua Tree. That one.

[Heath]

You guys were like, they like tripped and had like an outof body, like experience.

[Mariah]

Yeah, we were, we were sober. It was.

[Matt]

I had.

[Heath]

Oh, really?

[Matt]

Oh my gosh. Out of body. Body. So I could. I meditate occasionally. I know how to get into that zone and just focus on the breath. Ground yourself. Thoughts come and go, but just keep reminding yourself of where your baseline is and getting through it. But like 20, 30 minutes. And this was part of the experience. You know, as an influencer, I had to do this. I was not backing out. I had to go kind of document this moment. But I'm like 90 minutes. I was getting kind of anxiety. I'm like, that's a full on movie.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And I'm gonna be like blindfolded, sitting on the ground. I was a little hesitant. Like, like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to like handle this.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

I get there to the sound bath. None of the other guests like booked It. So it's just me and this woman, Valerie, and we're in, like, the show. We're in Belinda's house.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

On the.

[Heath]

Patricia didn't want to do the.

[Matt]

She didn't want to do it. She did tennis instead.

[Heath]

Got it.

[Matt]

She did tennis that day. And I. It was just me and her. And I lay down. The AC is kind of blowing. She goes, do you want the AC on or off? And I'll just open up the. The doors. And it's kind of hot in Thailand. I was like, keep the AC going. And then we start. And then five minutes. All I'm thinking about is the AC just going, oh. And I. And she's doing all these sound things. I go, sorry. And she kind of looks at me like, what you want to get out of this? I'm like, no, just turn the AC off. Let's do this damn thing.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

All right.

[Heath]

You felt your mind just focused on the AC sound.

[Matt]

Yes. And I. And I.

[Mariah]

You can't have any noise.

[Matt]

The full experience of the sound bath.

[Heath]

Right.

[Matt]

I felt like the AC was kind of distracting me. She's, like, putting bowls on my chest, like, stinging them. Like, I felt like I was on this, like, intergalactic, just, like, plane. Like, it was. It's crazy. How to describe it, but you just feel like you're locked in now. Okay, back to what I'm saying about meditation. Thoughts come and go, but you have to keep focusing on your breath and focusing on just. You're grounding yourself.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

What's great about the sound baths is because you're getting a new sound every time. So you're reminding yourself you're in this meditative state. So maybe your thoughts, you start thinking about, oh, maybe I got to pay that car payment. But then you hear this bing. You're like, oh, wait, right. I'm in a meditation zone. And it sounds. Kind of the sounds keep you grounded. Okay. So I was able to, like, really keep staying in this zone. Might have taken a nap for, like, five or ten minutes in it.

[Mariah]

But in the nap, you're like. You're hallucinating in your nap.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Mariah]

It's crazy easy.

[Matt]

So once again, 90 minutes. Then I hear, all right, now you're gonna start feeling the ground. You're gonna start coming, becoming a little bit more aware. She starts talking to me, and I'm like, wait, it's over.

[Heath]

And then, like, it went quick, like.

[Matt]

Yeah. So this whole 90 minute thing, it felt like it went by, like, in 25 minutes, but I was there, like, for full 90 minutes. I even like checked my phone after Patricia's like, I can't believe you're still at this sound bath right now. It's like taking forever. And I'm like, like, what did I just go through?

[Heath]

And it felt like it was, you.

[Mariah]

Should, you should try it once. It's insane. If you do a good one.

[Matt]

Yeah, I would definitely focus a little bit more on just doing some small meditations just to know how to get to that zone and then doing the sound bath.

[Mariah]

And they, and they recommend you not doing it like, like, or giving yourself like a month and a half or two month break in between those type.

[Matt]

Of like, yeah, it felt like, you know, you, I just like had a big come down off of shrooms.

[Mariah]

It's crazy.

[Matt]

I'm looking at the world differently and I, I, that was the text I read. But I'm like, I don't even want to be on my phone. I was just like, yeah, go out and touch grass and just.

[Mariah]

Well, that's when the lady comes to the bag, please, your phone. They should have done that as a joke. I would have done jokes all around. If I like had a campaign for the hotel. I just have the lady come with a bag like White Lotus. Have them put your phones in there.

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[Mariah]

Did you do a. You know, you're already here, so I. I was hoping that you did a video where, like, you'd show every scene in the show and then you'd show that scene, but, like, you're there.

[Heath]

The location.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

Like, this is what it actually looks like. Blah, blah, blah.

[Matt]

This is where the recap. I do one thing where I'm like, oh, this is where Victoria walks into the ocean, like during her dream and stuff. A little bit of that. But I didn't want to be like, I. You. I'm imply. I show spots where you're clearly like, that's from the show. But I didn't.

[Mariah]

Because that's really interesting. That's something I'd watch. I'd want to watch, like, oh, my God. I only see it from the show's point of view. I want to see a person showing me 360 of every single scene.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Mariah]

To see, like, what it actually.

[Matt]

And the sound bath was in Belinda's house. But I also realized that the. The three girl best friends, their pool is also Belinda's pool. I noticed that. It is where I was like, unless there's another house near there that has an identical pool. Yeah. But you kind of pick up on little pieces where you're like, oh, okay, they just shot all that's. So they're just reusing spaces.

[Mariah]

Yeah. But every single season, it's out of Four Seasons, right? Or no.

[Matt]

Yes, it is.

[Mariah]

It's out of Four Seasons.

[Matt]

We got to speak to the manager of the Four Seasons, and it was interesting talking to him. Like, so when you are getting told that they're about to shoot White Lotus at this resort, do you then get in contact with the past owners of the other hotels that host the White Lotus? And do you talk with them, like, just for them to give you a heads up, this is how things are going to be. This is how you got a major staff. He goes, absolutely. That's exactly what we had to do.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And do they get like, super excited.

[Mariah]

Or is it more just like, oh, my. Oh, man, this is going to be like.

[Matt]

He was. He did explain that it was really tough because of the writer strike. They were told like, okay, during this date, we're coming out, we're shooting White Lotus. Get ready for it. And he had to tell all the guests at the hotel, sorry, guys, we had to shoot. Can we postpone your visits to another stay? That was really stressful. And then the writer strike happened. And then he had to move those people around again.

[Mariah]

Wow.

[Matt]

And these are like high end clients told no and that somebody more important needs to be in their room. Room. He just was like, this was a. It was a lot of juggling with the resort.

[Mariah]

I don't know if, if I do, they tell them what they're. Why they have to be moved.

[Matt]

I bet they do say, yeah, like.

[Mariah]

I feel like if I was like paying, like if I paid to stay there and all of a sudden I get notified by the manager, hey, they're actually filming season three white lows out 100. I'd be like, you know what? I will come another weekend. That is cool.

[Matt]

Give me three more free night stays because that's to accommodate my family for this.

[Mariah]

Yeah, yeah. If you didn't have to like, like pay extra to like to move it around.

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah. And it was kind of cool where I was like, so do you, have you. Do you know what's gonna happen? Like, do they give you like a Google Drive with all the episodes early? No, I haven't seen all of the episodes, but I may have seen them shoot some things that.

[Mariah]

That's what I'm saying.

[Matt]

Why would they get the drawings happening? And I was like, oh, cool. And it was just that like moment where someone knows something that you really want to know, but you can't ask any more questions.

[Mariah]

That's really sick that you get like, they, you get to see, to see scenes. Like if you saw like if you saw a murder scene or something, you're like, holy. I know.

[Matt]

And I was telling him like all the other new locations I wanted to see, like, I want to see them do it in this location or in a place like this. He was like, interesting, interesting. He couldn't tell me anything if I knew he knew there where the next location probably is, but he just had to keep his lips tight.

[Heath]

That's cool.

[Mariah]

That's awesome.

[Matt]

Yeah, it was cool. It was really fun.

[Mariah]

Well, 10. 10 or 10? 10 out of 10.

[Matt]

You read 10 out of 10. Unbelievable. Very grateful for the experience. It was a. It was a dream come true.

[Heath]

Speaking of the hotel venue whole thing, we kind of brought it up in a past episode. Remember I had heard something about Happy Gilmore somehow associated with like our wedding venue type deal. Did you see the trailer, like the official trailer that just came out for Happy Gilmore too?

[Matt]

I have not seen it, but Patricia told me in the kitchen. She goes, have you seen the trailer?

[Heath]

Because the whole intro to The Happy Gilmore 2 trailer is the front of our wedding venue. Like the whole stairway Teaser trailer or.

[Matt]

Like, is it a teaser? Like, no, this is like the whole trailer.

[Heath]

Trailer right now.

[Mariah]

I wonder how much is filmed inside that place.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

I was curious. When we were in Jersey, I didn't know that they filmed at Pleasantdale. When we were at our hotel down the street, those people at the front desk said they just filmed it in there. So we were excited to see that it was the Residence Inn.

[Heath]

We were thinking it was going to be at the Residence in just like the other hotel that we were like at.

[Unknown]

And then this drop. This trailer dropped and everyone was like, that's your venue.

[Matt]

Oh, so they make it look like a country club.

[Heath]

Yeah, I'm. I'm just.

[Mariah]

I'm willing to bet it is the country club.

[Heath]

It seems like a country club. And there's also a golf course across the street. Street from, like, where the wedding was. So, like, I'm sure they probably filmed it.

[Mariah]

Yeah, probably.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

How do we all get to this premiere?

[Heath]

I know.

[Unknown]

I want to go.

[Matt]

I wonder if they'll even do it in LA or they're gonna do it, like, at.

[Mariah]

They would have a premiere for this, right?

[Heath]

I mean, there's like a bunch of, like, Augusta is where they.

[Matt]

I thought there's a name of the golf course and I don't know what I'm talking about.

[Mariah]

Maybe. Maybe a New York premiere.

[Matt]

That would be cool if they did the premiere, like, on a golf course, though.

[Mariah]

Oh, yeah.

[Heath]

Like Pebble Beach.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Mariah]

Like a full swing.

[Matt]

That would be really cool. I hope it's good. These. These.

[Mariah]

That is crazy. This is Happy Gilmore too. That's crazy.

[Unknown]

It's a big deal.

[Matt]

That's awesome. Is he, like.

[Heath]

I don't know anything about the story. I don't want to, like, look, I. I watched the trailer just because, like, I saw, like, got excited, but I don't want to know anything about it. I just want to go see it when it comes out.

[Matt]

Out. Oh, man.

[Heath]

I don't want to get my mix up.

[Matt]

I bet Shooter McAvin's in it.

[Heath]

He is.

[Matt]

Okay, good. I love shooting.

[Mariah]

Set expectations low and then you'll enjoy it.

[Unknown]

Luckily, everything Adam Sandler's in is amazing.

[Heath]

Yeah, I don't think he would mess it up.

[Unknown]

I don't think he would mess it up.

[Matt]

Like, jacket jail grown ups too.

[Mariah]

Like, he's had some bad stuff.

[Heath]

He's good in everything.

[Unknown]

Yeah, he's good in every. I just. It's entertaining. It's not rotten tomatoes 100, but.

[Matt]

Right.

[Unknown]

Everything he's in is very Entertaining like that.

[Heath]

Yeah, they're all fine.

[Matt]

Yeah, no, they're all fun. Except for Jack and Joe with the Zohan. He's had some crazy. Jack and Jill was like, him and what, Kevin James. And they dress up like women?

[Mariah]

No, no, it's him and him as himself dressed up as a guy and a girl.

[Matt]

Oh, right.

[Mariah]

Jack and Jill. He's. He's his sister, I think.

[Heath]

I've never seen that.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mariah]

No, he's the. He's. They're both Jack and Jill.

[Matt]

But didn't him and Kevin James do one where they, like, just became women to get.

[Heath]

No, that was. They. They. They were like firefighters.

[Mariah]

I now pronounce you.

[Heath]

I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry.

[Matt]

And that's a Jim Carrey.

[Mariah]

No, no, that's.

[Matt]

I love you, Morris. Sorry. Yes, you're right.

[Mariah]

No, and I pronounce. I not pronounce you Chuck. That was an amazing. That movie is so funny. No, he's had amazing film. Amazing film. Amazing movies. I up.

[Matt]

I love Mr. Dudes classic.

[Mariah]

51St date. He.

[Matt]

He's a first date legend is 50 first dates. His movie. Like, is it.

[Heath]

It's a happy.

[Matt]

A Happy Madison production.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

I love Singer Happy. Billy Madison. Billy Madison. Yeah, it's another classic.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah. You ain't cool. Wait, pissing your pants is cool. Miles Davis.

[Unknown]

Longest Yard. Come on.

[Mariah]

Oh, yeah.

[Heath]

Wow.

[Unknown]

You see, these are good, like, blockbusters.

[Mariah]

But, you know. You know what, you can have bad stuff out when those bangers out.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

Remember we went to a premiere that, like, it was. I forget what it was. It was really bad. And we looked back, we're like, damn, this is sad. And we saw his face. We were like, damn.

[Matt]

You know, he's Adam Sandler movie.

[Mariah]

No, it wasn't Adam Sandler movie. I think he came to support. It was.

[Heath]

It was the Joe Dirt.

[Mariah]

Joe. It was Joe Dirt.

[Matt]

David Spade.

[Mariah]

Oh, it was. It was so bad. The whole movie theater was like.

[Matt]

Like, there's a Joe Dirt, too.

[Mariah]

Yeah, it did really like, bro. When the movie ended, like, nobody. Nobody clapped. It was really sad. But I think. I think. I think everybody was on the same page of. It was just not a good movie.

[Matt]

I love Joe Dirt. 1.

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Thank you, DraftKings Casino, for sponsoring today's episode. We love you. And also, I'm also back on my diet again. Good.

[Matt]

Did you go off of it?

[Mariah]

I'm, like, going strict for the next three weeks.

[Matt]

Actually. Focus on my macros. Or then, yeah, that's what I'm. Macros. And then I look at what's in my kitchen and then I just ask ChatGPT, like, what can help me fulfill my macros to get into this. And then we'll come up with something. I'm like, all right, let's do that.

[Mariah]

You know what I'm gonna do very, very soon? No more nail biting.

[Matt]

Sure.

[Mariah]

I know. I think I can do this.

[Matt]

No, I think because you're, You're, You've. You're trying to eliminate a fix you already have. You're going to go to the nail biting to be like a fix?

[Mariah]

No, no.

[Matt]

I don't want to be pessimistic. I want to be supportive. You actually saying you can't do it?

[Mariah]

Yeah, I mean, I, I think. I think it's easier to stop biting my nails than the vape. I think no biting is easier than the vape.

[Heath]

I would think so, too. But the fact that you have tried painting it with the nasty tasting stuff and getting the fake nails put on it, and you ripped those off in, like an hour.

[Mariah]

What if I. What if something just switched too early?

[Matt]

It's. We're gonna pick this up in a week, and I want to be.

[Mariah]

And I won't have a vape in my mouth in a week.

[Matt]

All right.

[Heath]

No, I think you're good.

[Mariah]

I wouldn't, I wouldn't start this if I, If I knew I couldn't.

[Matt]

I think you did commit to a fitness transformation. So I Think you have a goal in my head.

[Mariah]

And I, but I, I told myself, like, cigarettes are not a part of it, just vape. You cannot have a vape in your mouth. But I know I'm not gonna smoke any cigarettes. But if I have this like leaning thing that I can lean on.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

I'm more prone to like not, not cheat.

[Heath]

No, I think you're good.

[Mariah]

You know what I mean? I'm gonna do those fake nails again. And I didn't like how, I didn't like how the other, the fake nails that I had on, I didn't like the way it looked. It looked really ugly. And I think that's why I was like it and I just ripped it off. But I, if I get nice looking ones, then I won't touch them.

[Matt]

Like a French tips or something.

[Mariah]

I don't know. Maybe mar. Should I get French?

[Heath]

Like curl in?

[Matt]

You get a lot.

[Unknown]

You'd be talk.

[Matt]

They get the really long, like tacky ones that you're.

[Mariah]

Oh, if I get long, tacky ones, then that would help because I'm only biting that. Yeah, but like, nails can still grow when you have the fake nails on, right? They still grow?

[Heath]

Yeah, it just grows. And then your nail, like the fake part is just stuck up higher.

[Matt]

So nails still grow after you die. Isn't that crazy?

[Heath]

Ew.

[Mariah]

Really?

[Matt]

You didn't know that? That for like, I think it's a couple weeks, like after you, after the body has died, hair and nails will continue to grow.

[Heath]

Wow.

[Matt]

Freaky. Really freaky nails.

[Unknown]

Which is crazy because your whole life you hear your hair and your nails are dead, right?

[Matt]

Oh, yeah, I think it's just. Well, they're dead skin cells, right? Isn't that like what it.

[Unknown]

Yeah, right.

[Matt]

It's. Your hair is grown from dead skin cells.

[Mariah]

Next episode, I'm gonna have nails. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna reveal my new nails.

[Heath]

Thumbnail manifesting, all of it. Yeah, we love to see it.

[Mariah]

Yeah. No, I'm good, I'm good. I, I guys, we're good. How fun, how fun is this? All I'm thinking about this vape right now. How fun is this?

[Matt]

Are you guys doing March Madness?

[Heath]

I don't even know what that.

[Matt]

This March Madness is like the college basketball tournament. You know how you fill out a bracket? It's like fantasy sports.

[Mariah]

They literally DM me and they're like, hey, can you, can you fill one out so we can post your, your picks? Yeah. And I was like, huh? I went to their page. They Only have, like, really big celebrities. I'm like, why did they DM me asking for my. Like, why would they care to post mine when I'm not even a.

[Matt]

A sports influencer.

[Mariah]

Yeah. I'm just like, it makes.

[Matt]

Someone's not doing their research fully on you, but maybe.

[Mariah]

But, you know, maybe they saw me throw a hoop.

[Matt]

One know, but you know how it's like, how. How many seeds? It's like 64 teams and stuff. And it's like east, west, and you have to fill out the entire bracket to see how it goes. And. And if you're in your whole group, whoever has, like, the best wins, wins the pot. But, you know, nobody.

[Mariah]

The closest.

[Matt]

Nobody's ever been able to get a perfect bracket in the history of mankind. Or March Madness. Warren Buffett at Berkshire Hathaway. I don't know if he still does this. This. He had a thing where you. He would give away a billion dollars if anyone at the company could do a perfect bracket or like a million dollars a year for the rest of their life. One of those.

[Mariah]

That's an amazing deal.

[Matt]

Yes. But the odds of getting it are so low when you're doing the bracket because you really want to win and get that perfect bracket. It's impossible. The odds. This is how crazy how many slots.

[Mariah]

You have to fill perfectly.

[Matt]

Like the whole bracket. It's 68 teams, so each of those teams teams. That's how it is.

[Mariah]

Oh, that literally impossible. Holy hell. Yeah.

[Matt]

And there's always an upset. You have some random school out in the middle of nowhere going up, a big team. There's always this underdog story, and that's just how it goes down. Yeah, but there are more possible bracket outcomes than there are grains of sand on earth. Like, if you created 1 billion brackets every second, it would take you 300 years to make every single outcome. If you were to fill out a paper bracket for every possible outcome, this stack of paper would reach the sun and back over 3,000 times.

[Heath]

Shut up.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's how it's impossible. But can you imagine if it did happen, if there was a person out there who guessed a perfect bracket? It's like you foresaw, like, the entire future.

[Mariah]

Mariah's thinking to herself, oh, I'm gonna do it.

[Matt]

Did you hear who's going bankrupt?

[Mariah]

Forever 21.

[Matt]

I know.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

You're old.

[Mariah]

My first job up.

[Unknown]

Are they gonna believe.

[Matt]

Are they shutting down all the stores or is it just filing for bankruptcy?

[Mariah]

I think it's kind of like what happened. Paxon.

[Matt]

So something like, they're hoping someone buys them out. They may pretty much.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah. But they. They already did this before, and then they did get bought out.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Heath]

And then, like, it just still didn't work.

[Matt]

It's interesting how Forever 21 is, like, struggling. I always feel like it's terrible fast fashion, how successful they are. I feel like they're all forever, I guess. Are they getting beat by H and M or. Or whatever?

[Mariah]

You know what? Those other stores are doing really well.

[Unknown]

Like, evolving.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

They really make the men's section. There's H M, baby. Like, yeah. Make it. They're all this gap kind of situation.

[Unknown]

Growing with their demographic. Forever 21. And, like, Charlotte Ruse kind of stuck to preteen.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Teeny bop.

[Mariah]

What else? Zara. I feel like I would consider that as, like, a Forever 21. Zara's really good.

[Matt]

Like, is that phone Ice is like. It's so it. They make stuff look really luxurious at an affordable price. And it's always, like, you see someone out with, like, this nice jacket. You're like, where did you get that? You're like, that's a way. You're like.

[Mariah]

And a lot of stylists actually just go to Zara. Like, those stylists that, like, that dress celebrities for, like, premieres and all that, they just go to Zara, which is you're paying them a lot of money for them to go to Zara and pick out some stuff.

[Matt]

When you get that Zara jacket and you're going outside the dinner, you hide that label. You put that on the back of the chair. Like, who Zara jacket is this? You're like, mine. There's nothing wrong with shopping at Zara, but it's that you. You want to get away with this, which is good.

[Mariah]

They did a good job at making it, like. Like a good. Like, it looks. But that's. That's a lot of these, like, high. Like, you. You look at high fashion, you're like, oh, what is that process? I know.

[Heath]

That's just, like, it's expected that something is from Zara.

[Matt]

Zara, right?

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Like, if somebody. If you're like, oh, that's a nice jacket, they said, oh, where'd you get it? Like, Zara. Okay, make it. That makes sense.

[Mariah]

I also. I get more impressed if I see someone in a really nice outfit and I ask, like, where'd you get it? I would be more impressed that they said Zara instead of, like, a Gucci or. Right.

[Matt]

It makes you like, oh, then I.

[Mariah]

Want to get my hands on that like, exactly, Zara.

[Matt]

Those straight up steals, though. Yeah, they will. When a fashion comes out, they hit production and will make an imitation. Exactly. Of somebody else's good fashion line. Completely good.

[Mariah]

So we can all get it.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

But also you could make anything look high fashion if you just tailor it. So, like, whatever you buy, like, if you buy it from like Zara or anywhere, you can like get it like tailored somewhere and then make it look nice.

[Matt]

Have you ever been, like, invited to a fashion show?

[Mariah]

Like, I don't think I've ever been to a fashion. Have we.

[Matt]

It's. See those fashion shows that you see with, like all the high end celebs and they're all sitting down in the front row.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

That is like, if I was that famous, I think I would actually actually, like, hate those things because everyone's looking.

[Unknown]

At you, really having fun.

[Matt]

You're having to have small talk with another person who's a massive famous person in the industry, but you're just like talking for a photo op, like, hey, how are things? Good?

[Mariah]

And you hear like, you're like, thank you.

[Matt]

Yes. I'm like, what are they talking about? Like, do they even know each other? Are they just talking about the.

[Mariah]

I think, honestly, I think it's very small talk. Just like you would expect. Just very, very small talk.

[Heath]

Are they excited to be there? Are they, like, it's more pr.

[Mariah]

I think it's true.

[Matt]

It's pr. It's just there to, like, be seen. I bet sometimes they're excited if it's a brand rant. Like, that's actually a cat. Makes it a spectacle. Like watching Chanel, like, yeah, incredible shows.

[Mariah]

Or one of the. One of the celebrities or actors are really trying to get a big ambassadorship with that company. So they're. They're gonna go to the shows to show their support. Yeah.

[Matt]

Wintour on this bot.

[Mariah]

I think. You know what? I think she would have a lot of fun here as much as you guys are fun.

[Matt]

She wouldn't take her sunglasses off just the whole time.

[Mariah]

I think Mariah and her would really head it off in this if they sat together on the cast couch.

[Matt]

I also, like during the fashion shows, but having to, like, watch the people come down and being like, yeah, you have to.

[Mariah]

You have to not.

[Matt]

I could not take myself seriously, Zane, if we were just there going, like, yeah, oh, I'm gonna get that.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Mariah]

And you know what's crazy? I never see those outfits and worn by anyone ever.

[Matt]

It's.

[Mariah]

It's more of like art. It's a show. It's not like you never see it like on anybody.

[Matt]

Yeah. Rarely do they ever make it to like the showroom where you can actually buy them. But usually people who are dressing big celebrities for events will have access I think to those pieces. Yeah, they're almost like kind of one and done pieces and they or they can make them upon request if you want it. I always think like Ralph Lauren's like fashion shows are like ones of stuff where you're like I could wear that.

[Mariah]

Oh yeah.

[Matt]

That's like one high end fashion brand where I'm like some of this stuff is just so dramatic.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Ralph Lauren is so confusing though because there's so many different brands under that brand. I don't get it.

[Matt]

There's like Polo, Ralph Lauren, Ralph Lauren.

[Heath]

Rugby, Double R, whatever.

[Matt]

Yes. Yeah, I do.

[Heath]

There's so many different like subcategories within it and like the price difference is crazy in them.

[Matt]

It is wild how you like sell out your like your whole brand name for like different levels of it.

[Mariah]

So they. Oh so they'll have like super expensive lines from Bull Ralph. And then like you were like go.

[Heath]

Like just Ralph Lauren.

[Matt]

Like oh, it's like thousand dollar jackets.

[Heath]

Like a pair of pants is like $600.

[Mariah]

But then you go to another avenue.

[Matt]

Polo Ralph Lauren. Like if you're at like Macy's Polo Ralph Lauren. That would be section That's.

[Mariah]

But I like that though. I like how I like the spectrum of price difference. But it's the same brand. I like that it's.

[Heath]

You get affordable and confusing as a consumer because is it.

[Mariah]

Because it's the same material? You would think, right?

[Heath]

It's a high end brand. That if there was a cheaper version of it, it would make me like if I was wearing the high end thing and people were getting like assuming that these other people who had the cheaper version were wearing the more expensive. As a person I think that was like buying it for the luxury of it. I would be like upset. Does that make.

[Matt]

I think that's. But that's where they do the branding of it. Like Polo Ralph Lauren is the polo guy. But if you're wearing Ralph Lauren, there's not the polo guy on it. So it will.

[Mariah]

You're talking about when you. When you see the giant.

[Matt]

Just the polo player.

[Mariah]

Yeah. Remember when we wore that, we bought something like that from Marshalls. Where was it? We went some. We went to some store where we're able to find that. We're like, oh, is this the real. And it wasn't the real.

[Matt]

It was like Polo Assn. Or like.

[Mariah]

I don't know. It was. Yeah, it was something.

[Matt]

That one is not even Ralph Laura.

[Heath]

That's a whole another thing club.

[Matt]

It's like I. I remember I bought one of those like ripoff polos, but I was like rushing to the logo. I got roasted. Roasted.

[Heath]

Like you could get a Ferrari for like $500,000. But then there's also like the Ferrari Camry. That's like still a Ferrari, but it's.

[Mariah]

Like there's a Ferrari Camry.

[Heath]

No, I'm saying. But you could also get a Ferrari for like.

[Matt]

Or like a lamb.

[Mariah]

Yeah. I don't. I miss my years.

[Matt]

You do?

[Mariah]

I do, I do. I just wish I got to enjoy it when it wasn't. What's the word? Totaled, Broken. Total broken. Like literally legally sold. I was driving.

[Matt]

It's crazy. They sold you that crazy without disclosing that to you. Or did they not know?

[Mariah]

Oh, they knew. Yeah. Cuz they were running a whole drug business. Right? Bastards. Did we even even talk about that on here?

[Heath]

Yeah, I think dealership. That was sketchy.

[Mariah]

Dealership went under. I just imagine their doors, you know, like when you rip the doors off and the. The under the.

[Heath]

The kilograms of like.

[Mariah]

Yeah. All like the. The drugs. That's how I imagine. As soon as they got bused, I was like, oh, that's pro. What if my car just. Just had a bunch of.

[Heath]

You had it the entire time. It had no idea.

[Mariah]

Filled with drugs.

[Matt]

They were doing that with DeLorean. Right. Like DeLorean, the back to the Future car.

[Heath]

Uhhuh.

[Matt]

That was a big reason why it went under because they were using those cars to ship cocaine inside the.

[Mariah]

Really?

[Matt]

It was.

[Heath]

Oh, I didn't know that big drug.

[Matt]

R ring happening with the deloreans. And that's why it went under, I think.

[Mariah]

Wow.

[Matt]

But I know that there's a factory down in Houston that when DeLorean went under, they still had a bunch of DeLorean parts. They bought all of them. And now you can buy, I think a brand new made DeLorean in.

[Heath]

Down in Houston because of the parts that were extra.

[Matt]

Yes. Yeah.

[Heath]

It's pretty cool.

[Matt]

So it's kind of cool. Yeah. You like a zero.

[Mariah]

I'll still see them sometimes. I'll see them parked at like a parking meter.

[Matt]

They're fun. But you can't park. That was back before they invented like what the.

[Mariah]

Oh, yeah, yeah. You can't park that thing anymore.

[Matt]

That exit.

[Mariah]

You got it. You have to at the part, the parking garage, you have to park all the way off somewhere else. Look, not found. Not guilty.

[Matt]

Oh, he did. He was found out.

[Heath]

Mr. DeLorean.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Look. God, those eyebrows. My Lord, I think I'm gonna rock.

[Mariah]

Gray hair. I think I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep my hair gray. Gray. I might even dye a gray soon.

[Matt]

Like a silver fox.

[Mariah]

To start. Yeah, to start.

[Matt]

I think just start. Young people who are young, it's better, I think, just to get gray hair younger, then much later, older. I don't know.

[Mariah]

You mean like bleach? Like bleach and then diagram.

[Matt]

Anderson Cooper, like, Steve Martin are like, these guys who, like, just had gray hair. By the time they're in their 40s.

[Heath]

They look amazing for their age.

[Matt]

And they're also incredibly handsome. Like, you have to have, like, kind of the perfect.

[Mariah]

It also tricks them to thinking that, oh, wow, he still looks great because he had great hair for so long for 40 years.

[Unknown]

Like bald people.

[Mariah]

Yep, yep.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Heath]

Because if you, you, like, start going bald over the course of time, it's a drastic. But if you're already bald, you're gonna look.

[Mariah]

That's why people think my dad looks great, because he's been bald all his life. So they're just like, you look amazing still.

[Matt]

Does he have to shave it still?

[Mariah]

Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure he has, like, hairs coming in, like, you know, the ring that you always have. I'm sure he has to shave that. I don't want to go bald ever. I can't. I'll keep, I'll keep. I'll keep getting hair plugs.

[Matt]

If we're in our 60s. And you. Bald head.

[Mariah]

I think I just, I, I, I don't rock bald head, though. I don't. I have, like, alien head.

[Heath]

Your dad has the same shape head.

[Mariah]

Yeah, but, like, he, he rocks it.

[Heath]

Just because he does it.

[Mariah]

Yeah. And also you got a nose up.

[Matt]

I just don't want a shiny bald head. Like, a sweaty bald head.

[Mariah]

Oh, it's shiny.

[Matt]

It's shiny. Just. Damn.

[Mariah]

I don't know. He probably does secrets. He probably mates it, like, mattes it, like, powders it.

[Matt]

Mattes.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

I have a skin tag, like, right here. It's so tiny.

[Heath]

Don't you want to rip it off?

[Matt]

Yes. But then I know it would hurt, but it's like, wait, can you look up?

[Mariah]

Skin tag? I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm confused now, what a skin tag is.

[Heath]

You. I don't you want to, like, tie a thread around it.

[Matt]

Oh, my God.

[Mariah]

I didn't know that was a skin tag.

[Matt]

Yeah, it's the worst when you have them, like under your eyes.

[Heath]

I used to get them on my neck right here.

[Matt]

Oh. So I had one on the back of my neck and I was getting a haircut. It was like. You got a skin tag but removed it. Now I don't have have it, but.

[Mariah]

It'S easy to remove that.

[Matt]

Right.

[Mariah]

They just freeze it and then they cut it off.

[Matt]

Yeah. I think you could probably do it at home, but.

[Mariah]

Oh, I wouldn't want to do that at home.

[Heath]

Did you ever have a wart?

[Matt]

Yes, I've had. I've had warts on my elbows.

[Heath]

What is a wart?

[Matt]

A wart is a fungus. Isn't like a fungal, like growth. What is a wart?

[Heath]

I don't know.

[Mariah]

I've always been a non cancerous growth on the skin caused by a viral infection, typically the human papillomavirus.

[Matt]

I've always thought hpv.

[Heath]

Yeah, but do they itch? Like, do they hurt?

[Mariah]

And you definitely don't want one down there.

[Matt]

They don't. It's. They don't hurt.

[Heath]

No, not like that.

[Mariah]

It's a genital war.

[Matt]

They're just. I had them on my elbows one time and I had to get them frozen off.

[Heath]

It's like a callus.

[Matt]

Yeah, in some way. And what's worse is like you'll pick at it and rub at it all the time. They're not fun.

[Mariah]

Yeah. They don't look like looking at these pictures. Yeah.

[Matt]

Weren't you told, like, as a kid, like, don't pick up toads because they can give you warts.

[Mariah]

Yeah. Yes, I heard that. Is that true?

[Matt]

I don't. I remember my friend had warts all the time as like a kid on his hands, and he said he got them from toads.

[Mariah]

Oh, well, there you go.

[Matt]

Yeah, but I don't know, that was.

[Heath]

Another thing growing up, they made you think you were going to get warts out of nowhere like that.

[Unknown]

Or boils.

[Heath]

Boils.

[Mariah]

Boils.

[Matt]

Boils always remind me of, like, fairly odd parrots. Or wasn't there like a character who had like a boil?

[Mariah]

Oh, yeah. It was like a.

[Heath]

Like a really tender.

[Mariah]

No, toads do not give you warts. Thank you for that, Mariah.

[Matt]

Yeah, I used to go toad catching all the time.

[Mariah]

You can continue to do that then.

[Heath]

Damn.

[Mariah]

Hpv. I was just seeing someone talk about how she got caught HPV from her man.

[Matt]

It's Wild how men carry hpv. But you can't test HPV in men.

[Mariah]

Yeah. So it's. And so it's kind of an avoid. Like, you can't really avoid it. Right.

[Matt]

Because safe sex and.

[Mariah]

Well, if you're. If you. If you're with somebody for years, I mean, at that point it's like.

[Matt]

Yeah, And. But also you can get. There's a HPV vaccine, but.

[Mariah]

Oh, there is.

[Matt]

Yes. But I. But it's a little, like, risky because it can also. Wait. No, I thought HPV causes cervical cancer. That's cervical cancel. But then I thought that the vaccine that there is, like, a little bit of a risk of taking the vaccine because it could cause something else. I'm talking out my ass.

[Mariah]

No, everything you're saying is true.

[Heath]

What's that one thing where if you, like, lick the back of a toad, you get high?

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Heath]

How do you find that out?

[Mariah]

Just like. Just like how those tri.

[Matt]

Tribal people, like, wherever that is true, there is a psychedelic frog.

[Mariah]

Remember the devil's horn flower? That. That was in the neighborhood where people. The devil's trumpet. You'd eat it and you would literally, like, hallucinate. Well, did someone. Someone tried it?

[Heath]

Like, you could. You could die.

[Mariah]

Yes, you could die.

[Heath]

You'll die if you eat that.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Heath]

No, there's a friend did it between eating, like, a flower and then seeing this bufo toad and being like, I bet I'm gonna lick the back of. Of it.

[Matt]

I bet someone ate. It was like, this is disgusting. Holy, I'm hallucinating. And they were like. But the hallucination was great, so maybe let's not eat it. Let's just lick it.

[Heath]

One of Alicia's friends, they did this thing where you basically ingest, like, that toad toxin, whatever, and then whatever color you throw up is like your energy aura thing. And, like, color what?

[Mariah]

And you could like. It could be like, highlighter green. And it could be.

[Heath]

Tells you, like, exactly, like, what's wrong with you and, like, what you need to, like, fix in your life.

[Matt]

Who is that shaman that's like, let's see.

[Heath]

No, it's like a different color throw up.

[Mariah]

Whatever you throw up saying how her. Her boyfriend did it.

[Heath]

He was like, addicted to, like, some.

[Mariah]

Sort of drugs, just something. And it took it away completely after the session.

[Matt]

Oh, I believe that crazy. I believe that psychedelics can really, like, get people off of, like, hardcore substances.

[Mariah]

When I heard, I was like, oh, can I do that for vape? But probably.

[Matt]

Maybe. Maybe it's you is.

[Mariah]

I'm Secretly vaping. Yeah. No, no, I'm stronger than that. Boo.

[Matt]

Well, what if you just continue to lie to us?

[Mariah]

No, he's leaving the room.

[Matt]

Like, I gotta go pee again.

[Mariah]

If. No, if I were to do it. If I were. I was gonna lie about. I wouldn't, like, say it publicly.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's good. By you saying it publicly, it's holding yourself accountable. Yeah, that's good. Zane.

[Mariah]

Sorry. And I might be chewing gum for the next few episodes. Sorry.

[Matt]

Eat some sour candy.

[Mariah]

Well, no, I. I'm trying not to, like, I want to just. I'm trying to, like, I don't. I don't want to have the. Because, you know, like, sugar is a problem. You know, like, sugar. I'm trying to not go to sugar when I'm having these.

[Heath]

I've been having patience, like, candy cravings, so I've been on mints because all I want is, like, chocolate all day long. Like, I've been having, like, a crazy sweet tooth.

[Matt]

Ooh.

[Mariah]

You know who has really good chocolate?

[Matt]

Mr.

[Heath]

Beast.

[Mariah]

The Feastables.

[Matt]

Are they good? They're.

[Mariah]

They're so good.

[Matt]

Are there golden tickets in them? What's the hype about? There's always a chance to win a million dollars or something.

[Mariah]

I think so. I don't know if it's like that anymore, but do you have to scan.

[Matt]

A QR code and do something, or is it, like, inside the package?

[Mariah]

I'm not exactly sure. I just. I know I get sent them every, like, few weeks.

[Matt]

Are they, like crunch bars?

[Heath]

They have all different kinds.

[Matt]

Yeah. Have you had to do buy chocolate?

[Mariah]

Oh, yeah, we did.

[Matt]

You did? Is that good?

[Mariah]

Amazing.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Mariah]

Amazing. Actual Dubai.

[Matt]

You guys tried the strawberry for me from. Not Equidox.

[Heath]

The 20 strawberry.

[Mariah]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt]

One.

[Heath]

It's a strawberry.

[Mariah]

It's a strawberry and it's a good strawberry.

[Heath]

But it's not like.

[Unknown]

This is definitely a social experiment.

[Matt]

Right?

[Mariah]

100. Mariah. I was saying the same thing.

[Matt]

What happens all the strawberries that don't get sold that day? Like, do you think they're really selling out? If anyone's coming in to get it, it's someone who's filming it for content.

[Mariah]

100%. Matt. I think whoever created this was like, we as a social experiment. Let's see how many influencers buy this and film it. And they got exactly what they were.

[Matt]

I think kind of brilliant. Brilliant.

[Mariah]

Yeah.

[Matt]

It is a little brilliant, but I would never want to make it that my life passion that I like. That's my.

[Mariah]

No, I think this was honestly Just an experiment.

[Matt]

Then there's gonna be the 20 banana, and then we're gonna have, like, the 20 apple.

[Mariah]

And, you know, I hope they do it, because I want to see how many people buy the thing and make a video out of it.

[Matt]

Strawberry. I understand. Maybe a 20 apple. That was like, yeah. Or the 20 pair. I. I would actually get behind a 20 pair. All right.

[Unknown]

Are you nuts?

[Mariah]

And that's the next round they're gonna do. They're like, all right, let's see who buys the pair.

[Matt]

Talking about size and price. If I'm going just $20 for something. Three bites. No, I want.

[Mariah]

It was a pretty big strawberry. That was about five bites.

[Heath]

I. Their fruits, in general, are way overpriced. A small thing of watermelon is like, $20 an erewhon. I'm like, this is insane. Yeah, it makes no sense.

[Matt]

I just. I would love to just go in and, like, blindly interview people, like, so what did we buy today? Explain why you bought this. How much, like, the people who. Who buy the ridiculous stuff, the $20 or $50 water that they sell. Like, why did you do that? What do you say?

[Mariah]

Because it makes you feel something. You walk in there, you buy something, you walk out, you feel like you are with everybody up there.

[Matt]

Crash has to be hard. You get home, you're like. I mean, just like, you're driving all night and then thinking, like, oh, God.

[Mariah]

I think I'm he. I'll buy those. Like, what are those? M and M's. But it's their brand. Unreal.

[Heath]

The quinoa one.

[Mariah]

I'll buy a bag of that, and I'm eating it on the way home. I'm like, I'm. I'm eating good. I mean, healthy. I ate from Erewhon. It's. It was probably 35 bucks for the.

[Matt]

Bag.

[Mariah]

But it's the same.

[Matt]

It's the same, just a higher price tag. And.

[Mariah]

But you do feel like you're eating better, though. It's this, like, weird thing that they do. You're eating better. Better.

[Matt]

I know. It's just watch.

[Mariah]

We have a new. We have a new shake next week. The Air One Cookies and Cream.

[Heath]

They. The. The celebrity collabs that they're doing for these shakes are out of control, too. There's, like, 15 different ones out right now.

[Matt]

But what's the latest one? I feel like it was like, Haley Bieber, Olivia, Rodrigo, and then I never heard about any other new Smith.

[Heath]

Nara has one right now.

[Matt]

No way.

[Mariah]

Nara has one.

[Matt]

Butter.

[Unknown]

Something from scratch. It's actually a funny name.

[Matt]

This is the.

[Mariah]

Yeah, the nor. That's Nara's recipe.

[Matt]

There's a cow back there that I feel.

[Mariah]

They have to. They have to do it the Narwha. Damn. All right.

[Matt]

This is fun.

[Heath]

All right, guys. Well, if you want to check out our Patreon. Patreon.com Zane and Heath we keep these cameras rolling so you get an extended cut of every single podcast episode. Also, we do a bonus episode every single month. We do a live Q and A every single month. Again, that's all on patreon.com Zayn and Heath if you want to check it.

[Mariah]

Out, you can check out these episodes. You can check out these episodes every Monday audio form on the podcast platforms and every Tuesday video form on YouTube.com Zane and Heath every Tuesday on the podcast platforms.

[Heath]

We'll see you in a second. We love you. Peace.

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[Unknown]

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[Zane]

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[Matt]

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[Unknown]

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[Unknown]

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