310: We Found Heath in the Epstein Files

Summary

Podcast Summary: Zane and Heath: Unfiltered

Episode 310: We Found Heath in the Epstein Files
Hosts: Zane & Heath (with regulars Jared and Matt)
Date: December 1, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively, joke-packed episode, the Unfiltered crew riff their way through a slew of bizarre, trending, and personal topics, bouncing seamlessly from the return of Vine to AI, wild food ingredients, conspiracy tangents, and near-death flying stories, all capped off with an extended bit about the infamous Epstein files—after which the episode’s title gets explained in characteristic Unfiltered fashion. The vibe is classic Zane & Heath: irreverent, high-energy, and packed with inside jokes, personal anecdotes, and rapid-fire banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Budgeting Woes & App Plug

• [00:00–02:00] Zane and Heath joke about their poor budgeting habits while plugging the Rocket Money app, teasing Zane’s takeout expenses and numerous subscriptions.
  • Memorable moment: Heath roasts Zane:

    "You spent over $600 on takeout last month." – Heath (01:04)
    "You're literally paying for a meal subscription on top of that." – Heath (01:09)

2. Diner Drink Orders & Memories

• [02:04–04:39] Jared describes his ritual of ordering multiple beverages when hungover at diners; the group reminisces about favorite Florida restaurants and old family spots.
  • Jared orders: "A water, an orange juice, a Diet Coke, and a coffee." (02:14)
  • Zane tells a story about a beloved Cuban restaurant back home.

3. Fast Food, Weird Food Trends & “Artificial Food” Bits

• [05:01–15:00]
  • The group debates the best chain pizza (Marcos gets a shoutout).
  • They commiserate about unappetizing trends like dyed bagels and the infamous black Burger King burger.
  • Laughter erupts over food dyes made from bugs, learning about carmine and the use of beaver glands in food and perfume (castoreum).
  • "Blue raspberry is made out of, like, beaver ass." – Matt (09:42)
  • Memorable moment: Hysterical discussion of “milking beavers” for castoreum, watching educational videos, and riffing on the weird things in American food.

4. Health and Cocoa Study

• [15:05–16:37]
  • Matt brings up a Duke study on dark hot cocoa reversing cardiovascular aging.
  • "Consuming like a cup of hot cocoa a day can reverse cardiovascular aging by like 10 years." – Matt (15:06)
  • Zane: "That's the research we need in this world." (15:21)

5. The Return of Vine (“Divine”) and Social Media Authenticity

• [17:12–25:10]
  • The squad reacts to news of Vine returning as “Divine,” with a huge archive of classic Vines—nostalgia and skepticism ensue.
  • Discussion on how platforms will ensure “real” uploads vs. AI-generated videos, referencing The Guardian Project’s involvement for authenticity verification.
  • "Do we really need to bring that back?" – Jared (18:15)
  • Reflections on the heyday of Vine, hacking upload methods, and who might get revived fame.

6. AI Deepfakes, Misinformation & Media Trust

• [23:00–26:16]
  • The group is split: some feel oversaturated with AI and misinformation already, others think the worst is yet to come.
  • Matt describes seeing an AI deepfake of RFK Jr., noting how convincing the technology has become before the spoof gets silly.
  • Zane: "Everything I watch now, I question, yeah, I'm like, is it even real? Like, and I almost like, who cares?" (23:33)

7. Epstein Files, Blackmail, & Conspiracy Jokes

[This section contains the bit referenced in the episode title]

• [25:52–34:44]
  • Zane brings up new interest in the Epstein files. Jared and Matt stage a comedic “gotcha” segment, pretending to “expose” Heath (and later Matt) via fake AI photos of them on Epstein’s island.
  • The images are explained away in comedic detail by Zane; the whole thing is a long-running inside joke planned months prior.
  • "Heath, you look real buddy, buddy over there." – Jared (27:20)
  • "That's a green screen, right?" – Jared (29:39)
  • The crew muses on government secrecy, public fatigue over scandals, and why some truths might be kept under wraps—touching on both real and absurd reasons while keeping things light.

8. Government Secrecy, Aliens & High Tech Speculations

• [34:44–43:05]
  • Joking but semi-serious conspiracies: undisclosed tech, weather manipulation (“cloud seeding”), anti-gravity ships, and government knowledge 100 years ahead of the public.
  • "Our government has technology that's 100 years, like advance into the future." – Zane (39:29)
  • Discussions on invisibility tech inspired by sci-fi.

9. Scary Airplane Stories & Infrastructure Fears

• [43:05–52:56]
  • Matt describes witnessing what seemed like a near-miss between planes en route to New York, shaken by how close the aircraft came—made more worrisome in light of air traffic controller shortages.
  • He and the crew riff on the decline in pilots and maintenance workers, pilot salaries, and unease at the idea of 19-year-old copilots or very old pilots.
  • "Got no 19-year-old fly me? You kidding me?" – Jared (50:22)
  • Contrasts are drawn between confidence in old pilots vs. distrust of elderly drivers.

10. Family, Wills, & Inheritance Dramas

• [52:56–56:01]
  • Inheritance triggers old wounds and family fights. The hosts lampoon petty squabbles over meager or sentimental estates, the morality of not leaving money to anyone, and end with a fantasy about blowing your fortune on lottery tickets before you die.
  • "Would you be petty enough to not put anyone on the will and just have it go to the government?" – Jared (55:40)

11. The Scale of Money: Millions vs. Billions vs. Trillions

• [56:01–59:50]
  • Jaws drop comparing a million, billion, and trillion in seconds and dollars.
  • "A billion seconds is 31.7 years." – Zane (57:50)
  • “How are we $36 trillion in debt? To who? To who? To who?" – Jared (58:14)

12. Consumerism & “Dumb Phones”

• [59:51–64:11]
  • Apple grifts: jokes about paying $230 for an iPhone sock (armband) and rage over the newly announced AirPod with a screen (an iPod Nano in disguise).
  • The group debates switching back to “dumb phones” (Light Phone, Jitterbug) to reduce screen dependence.
  • "I want to get rid of my phone, and I want to get a little flip guy." – Zane (62:20)

13. Tech Addiction, Dopamine, & Social Media Solutions

• [64:11–69:10]
  • The struggle to resist doomscrolling, and the difficulty of enforcing screen time with kids, turns into Jared’s idea for a “D.A.R.E. for tech” where people get points for staying off their phones.
  • The impracticality (and hack-ability) of such a system leads to laughter and honest commiseration about the brain’s draw to color/sound and the universal urge to scroll.
  • "They have mastered the art of making us need. It's not want, to need to scroll." – Jared (64:13)

14. Growing Up Tech-Free vs. Today

• [69:10–71:01]
  • The squad reminisces about household tech rules: no TVs in bedrooms, family dinners, one communal computer, and sneaking late-night access to HBO or Skinemax at sleepovers.

15. The Simple Joy of Music (And Raising Kids in the Digital Age)

• [71:01–74:32]
  • Zane explains his intention to revive barefoot music listening at home, screen-free, for his future family.
  • The value of finding the right song for the mood—and sometimes, why working out in silence beats a bad playlist.
  • The group reflects on podcast favorites that boost personal growth; Matt recommends a “Diary of a CEO” episode about parent-child bonding through touch.
    • "A father and his child don't actually connect or, like, start to form a bond until physical touch." – Matt (73:07)

16. Wrapping Up: Thanks & Reflection

• [74:32–74:56]
  • Heartfelt thanks to listeners and a “Happy Holidays” send-off, with a final joke:

    "Did you know Thanksgiving was an arms deal?" – Zane (75:00)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On budgeting and takeout habit:
  "You spent over $600 on takeout last month." – Heath (01:04)
• On weird food ingredients:
  "Blue raspberry is made out of, like, beaver ass." – Matt (09:42)
• On the return of Vine:
  "Do we really need to bring that back?" – Jared (18:15)
• On trusting reality in the AI age:
  "Everything I watch now, I question, yeah, I'm like, is it even real? Like, and I almost like, who cares?" – Zane (23:33)
• On the scale of billions:
  "A billion seconds is 31.7 years." – Zane (57:50)
• On U.S. debt:
  "How are we $36 trillion in debt? To who? To who? To who?" – Jared (58:14)
• On digital addiction:
  "They have mastered the art of making us need. It's not want to need to scroll." – Jared (64:13)
• On the power of music:
  "I've noticed that I'm so happy when I have music that I like on. Like, just listening to music, like, it puts me in such a good mood." – Zane (71:01)
• On the difficulty of parent-child bonding pre-birth:
  "A father and his child don't actually connect or, like, start to form a bond until physical touch." – Matt (73:07)
• On fighting over inheritances:
  "Would you be petty enough to not put anyone on the will and just have it go to the government?" – Jared (55:40)
• On keeping technology away from kids:
  "The baby just doesn't know a screen exists... have like an Amish household." – Jared (67:54)

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Segment Timestamps

• Budgeting & Takeout: [00:00–02:00]
• Diner Drinks & Restaurant Nostalgia: [02:04–04:39]
• Food Trends, Dyes, and Beaver Bits: [05:01–15:00]
• Hot Cocoa Study & Health: [15:05–16:37]
• Vine/Divine Returns: [17:12–25:10]
• AI & Deepfakes Discussion: [23:00–26:16]
• Epstein Files Bit: [25:52–34:44]
• Black Ops Tech Speculation and Chemtrails: [34:44–43:05]
• Plane Near-Collision Story & Pilot Shortage: [43:05–52:56]
• Inheritance & Will Drama: [52:56–56:01]
• Millions/Billions/Trillions Analogy: [56:01–59:50]
• Apple Grievances, Dumb Phones, Consumerism: [59:51–64:11]
• Digital Addiction & Solutions: [64:11–69:10]
• Growing Up Without Personal Tech: [69:10–71:01]
• Music as Mood Therapy: [71:01–74:32]
• Wrap-Up: [74:32–END]

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Tone & Style

• Language: Casual, brash, ceaselessly joking, peppered with inside references.
• Vibes: Nostalgic, conspiratorial (playfully, mostly), self-deprecating, skeptical of consumer trends and tech addiction.
• Structure: Loosely structured, conversation bounces organically topic-to-topic; extended bits (like the Epstein files photo prank) are the comedic high points.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:

This episode is vintage Unfiltered: off-the-cuff, riotously funny, and unexpectedly insightful—balancing pop culture, tech trends, and conspiracy-laced social critique with classic millennial nostalgia. If you enjoy a show that feels like eavesdropping on a table of friends who never miss the chance to prank each other or roast their own failings, this one keeps the laughs—and thought-provoking tangents—coming until the very end.

Transcript

[Zayn]

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[Heath]

Let me see your charges.

[Zayn]

Ugh. Fine.

[Heath]

You spent over $600 on takeout last month.

[Zayn]

I can't cook. You know this.

[Heath]

Yes, I have had your disgusting food, but you're literally paying for a meal subscription on top of that.

[Zane]

Whoa, wait, wait, wait.

[Zayn]

That can't be right.

[Heath]

Look, just. Just get Rocket Money. It shows you all of your expenses in one place and even tracks your subscriptions. And if there's a subscription you don't want, which for you, there are a lot you don't need, you can just cancel right in the app with a few taps.

[Zayn]

So you mean I don't have to call anyone to cancel? Nope.

[Heath]

No hold times or anything. And they'll even try to get you a refund on some of the months of wasted money, which is a lot of money for you.

[Zayn]

Okay, okay.

[Heath]

And if you thought I was done, I'm not. The app can also help you make a budget that works for your income. Anytime you get close to your spending limits, it alerts you so you know exactly where your money is going at all times.

[Zayn]

All right, I'm in. What do I have to do?

[Heath]

Go to RocketMoney.com cancel or download the app from the Apple or Google Play stores.

[Zane]

Okay. Drink man. What the Fuck. What we got?

[Jared]

We got water, two waters.

[Zane]

Okay. We got. What is this?

[Jared]

Soda pop and Celsius.

[Zane]

I saw him walk in with three cups. I was like, okay. All right. It's one of those days.

[Jared]

I always. When I go. When I'm at a. Not a restaurant, a diner. When I'm at a diner, I always order. I always order a water, an orange juice, a Diet Coke, and a coffee. Oh, my God, my stomach is rumbling after what. Like, I. Especially when I'm, like, hungover. I just need. I need to pop out of all the.

[Zane]

You want variety?

[Jared]

Yeah. And, like, all. And I just. I don't need the whole thing. Just a sip out of each. You know, it's like. It's like the quadru, like, thing that really just.

[Zane]

No, I dig it. Usually at diners, I'll do water and a coffee. And it. There's certain bites of food that you take that require a sip from each.

[Jared]

Exactly.

[Zane]

You know, when something hits with a. With washing it. Like pancakes with syrup. Got to wash it down with water for.

[Matt]

Really? I was going to say milk.

[Zane]

Don't be throwing another one.

[Jared]

Like, milk, too.

[Matt]

I love milk.

[Jared]

I love milk, too, but you're not ordering a glass of milk.

[Zane]

But I couldn't tell you the last time I drank just milk. Like, just regular milk.

[Matt]

I mean, to be fair, I can't remember the last time I did either. But actually, no chocolate milk. I'll drink that pretty regularly.

[Zane]

Chocolate milk.

[Jared]

I'll order the hot cocoa when I'm at an ihop. Oh, I always order the hot cocoa because they always give, like, that whipped cream, like, extra whipped cream. And then they'll bring me a side of whipped cream.

[Zane]

They always give it. He orders it. You do extra whipped cream. There's.

[Jared]

There's times where, you know, if they're feeling, like, spunky, they'll just give me the whipped cream Cane. They'll set it right on the table. I'm, like, really queen.

[Zane]

There was this restaurant in Florida that I used to go to with my parents. And my dad knew the owner of the restaurant, the one I took you and your mom to. It's got, like, really good Cuban food. And we got up there.

[Jared]

Oh, El Tamarindo, El Tamorindo, that shit. Dude, we had the steak and pasta.

[Zane]

Boy, it's banging. But we would go there and they would, like, if we asked for a drink, like a. Like an alcoholic drink, they would just bring the bottle. And it was like, okay. It was. Dude, that was.

[Jared]

But it was like. It was like a family Run restaurant, though it wasn't like a very family ran restaurant.

[Zane]

The guy that owned it was like our neighbor. So we had known him and just, like, always got along.

[Matt]

Oh.

[Zane]

But it was like, it was one of those things where, like, you would get, like. You knew you would get, like, treated if you went there. So we were like, okay, this is like a special occasion.

[Jared]

And you're usually, like, kind of the only people at the restaurant too. It was like those type of restaurants where you, like, you come in, you're like, there's a chance that you're by yourself or maybe there's another table and.

[Zane]

They would do these appetizers. It was tostones with Leon Asado on top.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Zane]

Oh, man.

[Jared]

And they served you like they're. They got. They make a lot of money every day.

[Zane]

Boy, them portions.

[Jared]

The portions were insane. Where you're just like, how are you guys still running business?

[Zane]

When I just went for Austin's wedding.

[Jared]

We went there to Al Mirando was good.

[Zane]

That's like my one spot I have to hit whenever I go back.

[Matt]

Damn. Now I kind of want to go.

[Jared]

It's still.

[Matt]

It's still there.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Jared]

Dude. Honestly, good for L. They must be budgeting or something.

[Zane]

Pizza anymore, though. And they had banging pizza, which you wouldn't think for, like, a Cuban restaurant.

[Jared]

I didn't even know they had pizza there, man.

[Zane]

Their pizza was good. So.

[Jared]

So nobody ordered the pizza.

[Matt]

That's probably why they got.

[Jared]

That's crazy. Imagine restaurants just like, we got to get rid of the pizza, cuz nobody's ordering it.

[Zane]

It was something like, you wouldn't typically order, like, pizza at, like, a.

[Jared]

People in Florida, they only eat, like, dominoes. And they don't eat from a restaurant.

[Zane]

They love their chain restaurants.

[Jared]

Unless they're going to, like, an Anthony's Coal fire pizza. But other than that, like, they're not sitting down and eating pizza. Like, they're gonna order it from Papa John's and, like, have it delivered to their house.

[Matt]

I get that.

[Zane]

I will say best chain pizza that I've tried, Marcos.

[Matt]

Really?

[Zane]

I love it.

[Matt]

Wow.

[Jared]

That's a. It's a chain pizza.

[Zane]

Smaller chain, but they do a good job. It's like a mix of, like, Domino's and Pizza Hut.

[Jared]

What do you mean? It's a mix of Domino's on pizza. Like, the flavor.

[Zane]

Flavor. Because you could do, like, the crust, like, whatever. Whatever seasoning you.

[Matt]

Oh.

[Jared]

So the detailing is kind of like the two of them. Do you remember Hungry Howie's?

[Zane]

Hungry Howie's was good. If you were wanting to overindulge and just go, gross.

[Jared]

If you're. If your taste buds were not working that day.

[Zane]

Yeah, it was all you could eat type joint. It's kind of like a cc's pizza.

[Matt]

What the fuck?

[Jared]

That is fucking ridiculous. What the fuck is that?

[Matt]

The dye pizza.

[Jared]

Ew. There's a. And you know what else?

[Zane]

What?

[Jared]

I fucking hate when. Why are we dying? Our bagels. Why are we dying?

[Zane]

Tie dye.

[Jared]

Bagels. Bagels.

[Matt]

Does it taste like anything or is it just dye?

[Jared]

I'm sure it doesn't taste like anything. It's just dye. But, like, there's. When. When I look at a bagel, I don't go, damn, I wish I was eating a blue bagel right now. It's not something that, like. It's not like, ice cream. Like, you know, ice cream. Kids, like, eat the blue ice cream. They're like, oh, it's blue, but it's just die.

[Zane]

I think spongebob just put them on, man, with the pretty patties. Having those different colors. Because when I. When I was a kid and I saw that, I was like, yo, I need a green or a blue ham.

[Matt]

I wanted a purple patty, yo.

[Jared]

Yeah, a purple pad. Remember when they. Remember when? I think it was Burger King. They did the black burger.

[Zane]

Yes.

[Jared]

The whole thing.

[Zane]

Oh, I do remember that.

[Jared]

It was the bread that everything was black. I'm like, how did they do that? Was the vegetables black, too?

[Zane]

I don't know.

[Jared]

No.

[Zane]

Oh, it can't be good.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Zane]

What?

[Jared]

Like, what is that black? Oh, the cheese is black, too. Oh, so the meat wasn't black?

[Matt]

The meat wasn't, but it was black.

[Zane]

As if their fast food couldn't get more artificial.

[Jared]

I know that.

[Matt]

Just look at that thing in real life.

[Jared]

It does look pretty cool, though, with the white sesame seeds. They kind of ate.

[Matt]

It looks unsettling.

[Jared]

It's aesthetically pleasing. They should bring that back for this year, dude. Like, I want to see. Dude, I can see TikTok like, and Instagram, like, real reviews of, like, the black burger. Bring it back just for that. Because. Just because it's so hot to, like.

[Zane]

Why does it kind of sound like a food review? Like a scary movie? Just like, the black burger.

[Jared]

The black burger go down. They had a pink burger, too.

[Matt]

That's fun.

[Jared]

Oh, whoa.

[Zane]

Okay.

[Jared]

Okay.

[Zane]

Pink fish filet kind of looks like it's hitting.

[Matt]

Well.

[Jared]

I can see a girl, like, eat my pink fish fillet, you know?

[Matt]

Where is this? Oh, Thailand, dude.

[Zane]

Overseas. They do the coolest shit.

[Jared]

Oh, blackpink Is this the. The K pop band? Is that like. Was that like a whole collab?

[Matt]

Oh, maybe. Yup.

[Jared]

That's smart. I fuck with that. Oh, and then the red one. The red one makes sense for, like, the spicy flavors. Yes, yes. Oh, oh, but you know it's red. You know it's red 40 though.

[Zane]

Did we. Did we get rid of it here? Why do I feel like I keep seeing red 40?

[Jared]

But it's just like, dude, that shit's illegal here now. There's no way that I think too many people would not know it.

[Matt]

It's not bad.

[Zane]

But I keep seeing something. It's like red 40 something. It's like.

[Jared]

Oh. That they're trying to use to.

[Zane]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jared]

To surpass it.

[Zane]

Is it red 40 that's made with bugs? It's made with, like, red bugs.

[Jared]

Red 40s. I was like, oh, there it is. The little bugs that they. That they. That they squish into to make red 40. Or one of the. It's one of the.

[Zane]

The.

[Matt]

The.

[Jared]

That they have in foods.

[Matt]

Carmine.

[Jared]

Carmine.

[Zane]

Crushing female cochineal insects. Size of peppercorns.

[Jared]

Well, that's sexist. What about the guys? What about the males?

[Zane]

That's crazy.

[Jared]

The female ones are red.

[Matt]

Probably just like. Like cardinals. Except the guys.

[Zane]

The.

[Matt]

The male cardinals are red.

[Jared]

It is crazy that cardinal. Just red birds.

[Matt]

Yeah. Also, wait, I just learned recently that blue raspberry is made out of, like, beaver ass.

[Jared]

I just. Wait, I saw that too. Yeah, I saw that. Tick tock. Beaver ass. Not the beef, not the beaver.

[Zane]

That's crazy.

[Jared]

Only our country, though. You would never catch this in any other country.

[Zane]

Beaver butt flavor.

[Jared]

Beaver butt flavor.

[Zane]

Flavor refers to cast a musky sweet secretion for vanilla and raspberry.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jared]

Oh, it must. It must be good because it was used in perfumes and sometimes as a natural flavor for vanilla and raspberry. So it can't be that bad. Okay, so we should take a beaver.

[Matt]

Let's eat.

[Jared]

Let's eat that ass.

[Zane]

Eat that ass.

[Jared]

Eat that ass.

[Zane]

Sweet. It is.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Yeah, bro, who's lifting up that big ass beaver tail? Is that.

[Jared]

Is that, like, illegal? Like, if you got caught doing that, is that illegal?

[Zayn]

Illegal?

[Matt]

Sure.

[Jared]

It's like animal.

[Zane]

Oh, it's illegal if we want to get it ourselves, but they could just squeeze it in our food. Yeah, Let me get it from the source.

[Jared]

Where is the line. Where is the line for this? Like, how is that.

[Zane]

I can't harvest it myself, but you're gonna put it in.

[Matt]

Maybe you just have to be Incorporated. So maybe you just. Beaver Butts llc.

[Jared]

You know, if you, if you flip it. It's not illegal to eat human ass.

[Zane]

But it.

[Jared]

Or it is what it is. It's. It's legal to eat human ass, but it's illegal to chop them up and put in our food.

[Matt]

So where's the line?

[Jared]

Where is the line?

[Zane]

That's why we need Zayn's brain.

[Jared]

Wait, let me cook real quick.

[Zane]

Zane Zayn asked the hard hitting questions.

[Jared]

I do. We should have a beaver. As I go, it's like, is it true that your ass is used for foods?

[Heath]

Yes.

[Matt]

Is your ass distinctively musky and sweet?

[Zane]

That's crazy though.

[Matt]

Who was the first person to find that out?

[Zane]

That's what I'm saying.

[Jared]

Who.

[Zane]

It's wrong.

[Jared]

Who is you? Who is you?

[Matt]

Oh my God. We use about 220 pounds of this every year.

[Jared]

And they're not extinct. That means beaver ass. I. They may be just squeezing their ass, but not like actually killing.

[Zane]

Hold on, hold on. They're calling it milking beavers. Can we, can we see a video of a beaver being milked?

[Jared]

I think we're going to find that on the Black Web. There's no way that that's a public video that you can find. You know they hold meetings, these beavers and they're like, they can't do this to our assholes no more.

[Zane]

Keep your tails down.

[Jared]

No more.

[Zane]

Tails down. Tails down. Tails down. Yo. Beavers are a crazy animal though because they just build shit for sport, you know what I mean?

[Jared]

In the water. In the water. Try building that shit in Waheeth. Try building a house on the water. You can't, you can't.

[Zane]

They're incredible.

[Jared]

It's insane.

[Matt]

I think I found the video.

[Zane]

The cable turned off.

[Jared]

He's grabbing, he's grabbing that.

[Zane]

Easy with the finger.

[Jared]

He's grabbing that beaver ass like it's. Wait, how is this on YouTube?

[Matt]

This is allowed because it's educational.

[Zane]

It could be very educational.

[Jared]

I want to, I want to invest. I want to have those 52 people that thumbs up this investigative.

[Zane]

Yes.

[Jared]

Who is sitting there like looking this up and just like, like, is that a beaver butt or a beaver balls?

[Matt]

That's his. That's the butt. Oh, that's the Castoria.

[Jared]

Oh, look at him pulling the.

[Matt]

Oh.

[Jared]

All right, I'm done. I'm done. Okay. I'm done.

[Matt]

Get out of there. We saw it. We saw.

[Jared]

We don't need that because like Heath is. You're about to see something like that soon.

[Zane]

So let's again, who tasted it?

[Jared]

Who is you?

[Zane]

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[Matt]

Also, speaking of food and like, benefits from it. Actually, the, the hot cocoa reminded me there's a study done.

[Zane]

Don't ruin hot cocoa.

[Matt]

No, no, no. This is, this is good. There's a study done at Duke University that says consuming like a cup of hot cocoa a day can like reverse cardiovascular aging by like 10 years.

[Zane]

And that's the research we need in this world.

[Matt]

Wow.

[Zane]

That's the type of stuff I need to hear.

[Jared]

It is.

[Matt]

It has to be like dark cocoa, like they say like 70% or higher because it has something called Flavanols in it. And then that helps to reduce like the cardiovascular stress and stuff like that.

[Zane]

Vitamin C and Rubble flat.

[Jared]

That's literally the Only thing I was thinking about when you said that word.

[Matt]

But yeah, they, they did a study and because they were, they were trying to see the harmful effects of the modern age of like, sitting at computers all day and stuff like that. And so they had one study or one group that was drinking a placebo, probably like milk chocolate cocoa. Didn't really have any of that. The good stuff in it. And then one group that was drinking high Flavanol cocoa and they, they showed reverse aging of like 10 years.

[Jared]

Reverse Asia. Oh, my mom's going to be all over.

[Zane]

See, that's what I want. I want stuff that's beneficial for us, that tastes good and we can enjoy it. I feel like everything that's good for us, I'm like, I don't want it.

[Jared]

To be like that.

[Zane]

I don't want to eat gross.

[Jared]

Why has it got to be beaver butt?

[Zane]

I. I don't want to milk a beaver. And celery.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Zane]

And drink that.

[Jared]

It's not fair. It's not cool to us.

[Zane]

Give me hot cocoa. Make me younger.

[Jared]

Exactly. Well, let's run the intro it up. It's Comitone, baby. Welcome back to Zany Heath Unfiltered.

[Zane]

How y' all doing? I'm Heath.

[Jared]

And Matt is on his way.

[Zane]

He's on a flight currently. Where? New York.

[Jared]

New York. He lit. I just saw him post a story of him knitting on the flight that's happening right now as we speak. So that's why he's not here. And it's just the three of us today. How have you been? How's your day?

[Zane]

I woke up to some crazy news. Oh, a couple hours ago, they just came out and said that they're bringing back Vine.

[Matt]

Shut the fuck up.

[Zane]

It's gonna.

[Jared]

I just saw that.

[Zane]

Wait, it's gonna be called Divine. And they're putting, like, I think it said like a hundred thousand archived old vine videos back up on it.

[Jared]

Oh, you know, ours is gonna be up there because we are. We are the OG virus thinking the same thing.

[Zane]

There's got to be at least one of ours.

[Jared]

At least one. And I, I, there's. And I. If I'm thinking of the one that they're gonna put, I think it has to be because, bro, that one, that one, like, blew up. That one was on like.

[Zane]

Which one? Which one?

[Jared]

The Vines of the year. It was. You know how they had the Vines of every year that made it on, like, top seven, which I feel like they're going to do that one. It was the Scoot over, bitches.

[Zane]

Beep, beep. Damn. I'm very curious to see. But yeah, Jack Dorsey, I think he is the.

[Matt]

The founder of Twitter. Yes. Yeah.

[Zane]

Just came out and said that he's bringing back vine.

[Jared]

But do you guys, like, let's be, like, for real right now.

[Matt]

Is.

[Jared]

Do you think, like, is this something that we should all, as like, a group, let go? Like, do we really need to bring that back?

[Zane]

I think if they do it right, because I saw something that they're not allowing any AI videos, and it might become the place of, like, refreshing content. That's not just all this AI, which means Heath.

[Jared]

Which means they may require you to upload straight through the app. If that's the case, if you want to make it super authentic, which I'm like, I can already see them talking about this in the room. Like, guys, we got to go back to how it used to be.

[Zane]

But we ended up finding a way to manipulate that to be able to upload.

[Jared]

But it probably wasn't secure. Like, I'm sure, like, we hacked it because it was, like, in the early stages of vine. So I feel like now they're gonna be able to like, really crack down on that type of. Like, nobody can just, like, upload it through. Yeah, because we had to do it through a portal through, like, a side.

[Zane]

We had to hack and get videos uploaded on Divine that we shot externally.

[Jared]

Do you remember what the app was Heat that we were using? You don't remember? It was. Guys, it was like a separate, like, media player kind of back end type thing. So you had to, like, download to your computer and then you had to. It was. Was it called, like, V2 or something or.

[Zane]

Don't know.

[Jared]

I don't. It was weird. It looked sketchy as fuck, but it worked. And that's. And it gave you an extra. Because vine was six seconds long. This one gave you an extra point. Seven seconds.

[Zane]

It gave you a little bit extra, extra. What's weird too, is, like, we would watch vine videos, and I'm like, there's no way they shot this in Vine. Like, how are they doing this? It was too perfect. And then people started doing, like, special effects.

[Jared]

Who was the first person you saw? That was Marcus. No, there's somebody else that did it first.

[Zane]

Maybe Hannah Stocking. I remember those two specifically, though, that I was like, how are they getting this?

[Jared]

Like, how are they uploading this?

[Zane]

Marcus. Marcus did like a. A shot that was done with some sort of special effects that I was like, okay, there's a way these people Are doing it. We need to find out.

[Jared]

Yeah, we. I think we just literally hit up one of the. One of the Viners and we're like, yo, how are you up? How are you doing these videos right now? They told us. We started doing it and we loved it. It was awesome. Okay, but they're bringing it back. Do we know anything more than. They're just bringing it back and calling it Divine?

[Zane]

So I. So when I saw it, I went on the App Store and I tried to find it, and it's not there yet, so I don't know how long it's going to take.

[Matt]

Oh, actually.

[Jared]

Oh, it's definitely not. But they're gonna do a big release. They're gonna have a countdown. They're gonna, like. This is gonna be like.

[Zane]

You think they'll reach out dropping? No, no, we've already been.

[Jared]

There are so many. There's so many creators out there. Like. Yeah, but also, do you think. Remember all the Viners that turned against Vine? Remember that whole list of people Paycheck? I don't think they're gonna. I don't think those people are on that. Like, we're gonna be on the list that they're gonna reach out to. But we have never. We have never betrayed Vine.

[Zane]

Like, we didn't get. We didn't get the offer.

[Jared]

We didn't get the offer, but we. But we never got. We never. We never got offered, but we still never betrayed them. Right. You. That there's no proof that we ever betrayed them. And we didn't. So maybe we should get like, a little bit of, like, we would.

[Zane]

We would have taken that money, boy.

[Jared]

Oh, hell yeah. We would have taken them. But they. But nobody ever got the money.

[Matt]

True.

[Zane]

Because it all fell apart.

[Jared]

All fell apart. Yeah. I don't know. I don't like.

[Matt]

Oh, you can like the name. You can download it now. It says Divine is available on both iOS and Android at Divine Video.

[Zane]

Okay, let's see. Let's see what it looks like.

[Matt]

And then. Does this sound familiar? This article from 2013 saying, like, how to hack. Fine. And, like, upload videos says they used a program called I Explorer. Does that sound familiar?

[Zane]

Kind of.

[Matt]

I Explorer.

[Zane]

Was that the app?

[Jared]

That was it.

[Matt]

That was the.

[Jared]

That was the engine that we're using to. It's downloading it right now. But I wonder if people are going to get annoyed. Like, if they do make it where you can only upload through the app, are people going to be so annoyed? Well, they're not going to want to upload I don't.

[Matt]

I don't know if they're going to do it where you have to shoot it in the app. Because this article is saying that in order to verify that it's human made, they're using a technology from the human rights nonprofit called the Guardian Project, which helps to verify that content was actually recorded on a smartphone along with other checks. So they might be looking at more of, like, the metadata from it of like, because all of your camera information gets recorded.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And that. So they might just be seeing where the video file is actually coming from.

[Zane]

That makes sense.

[Jared]

I feel. I feel like. I feel like this came too early. No, Like, I don't think you mean.

[Matt]

It'S almost 10 years.

[Jared]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Matt]

I'm saying.

[Zane]

No, I'm saying people aren't over AI.

[Jared]

We're not. We're not doing. We're not consuming too much AI yet. I would say.

[Matt]

Oh, I see.

[Jared]

So for this, for everyone to be like, guys, we really need something to, like, refreshing and something to save us all from AI. Like, we're not. I feel like we needed a couple more years before this really came back. We're like, you know what? We are consuming too much AI. We really need to go back to something more authentic. But maybe I can see maybe getting. Maybe them starting now. Maybe they'll get really good in like a couple years where everything is, like, still very authentic and people will transfer. Transfer to.

[Zane]

I've already noticed AI like, messing with my brain, though, because everything I watch now, I question, yeah, I'm like, is it even real? Like, and I almost like, who cares?

[Jared]

Like, to me, it's not even AI to me, I'm. I think I'm more stressed out of just like, the information I hear online to. To me, I feel like information is much worse than, like, ever video is real or fake. Like, right now I'm not. I haven't seen anything too dangerous yet. That's like, has scared me. Like, there's no video that I've looked at be like, oh, that's scary. Like, I really don't know what's real or not. Like something that, like a president or somebody making an announcement of something really scary. But it's. I, Like, I haven't seen that yet. So, like, nothing. Like, to me, that's not. It's more just like information. Like people just saying, like, lies or saying something.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's not true.

[Jared]

And media outlets picking it up and it's not real.

[Matt]

I'll be the. The contrary to that. I'VE seen. I haven't seen anything that's legitimately scared me. Where I'm like, is this real? Is this not? But I've seen the potential for how people can misuse it in the sense, like, I remember there was a video of RFK Jr. Where they took video from, like, a real press conference, but they, like, changed his mouth moving and use, like, a voice simulator for it. Now the content of what he was saying, he's like, I'm declaring war on fat kids. Right. It's, like, obviously fake, but up until he said that, I thought it was a real press conference.

[Jared]

Got it. Until he said that.

[Matt]

Until he said that. Because they were obviously making a joke.

[Zane]

But things like, if it wasn't something that was.

[Matt]

Which could very easily be something that sounds real.

[Jared]

Yeah.

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[Zane]

I don't know. I got a weird feeling about it because, like, the whole Epstein stuff is going down, like, getting even more aggressive right now. Some more leaked documents just came out.

[Jared]

I'm just so over that. Goddamn. I feel like we've been hearing about these Epstein files for so long.

[Zane]

It's time.

[Jared]

But, like, at what point is it, like, at this point, they're gonna really, like, if they release the whole list right now. And the names are crazy. I think everybody just wouldn't even bat an eye. Like, oh, not surprised.

[Matt]

That's how they want you to feel. It's working. That's how they want you to feel. You have to fight against that.

[Zane]

But also, what if. What if the real blackmail videos get leaked? Now they have an excuse to be like. It's just AI.

[Jared]

Yeah. To me, it's like, like, whatever list. Like written documents or like, text doesn't really scare me. I need to see videos. Like, a video is what's going to truly terrify. That's not AI of like, whatever they have on anybody that was on that file list or the island or whatever.

[Matt]

I get that. I don't know.

[Jared]

But Jared has some exclusive, exclusive Epstein file tapes that he we're going to play here. What?

[Matt]

Today?

[Zane]

Do we actually have something?

[Jared]

Yeah, we actually have a. There's a.

[Matt]

So this was just released.

[Zane]

This is. This is the documents that just.

[Jared]

We have some pictures from the island that. I don't know. Just see if you can explain this.

[Zane]

That's so funny.

[Matt]

So what's.

[Jared]

What's funny about that?

[Matt]

Yeah, what the fuck's up with that?

[Jared]

Heath, you look real buddy. Buddy over there. When was this?

[Matt]

That's a little insane, don't you think?

[Zane]

I can explain.

[Jared]

Yeah, no, please. The floor is yours.

[Zane]

We were at Playlist Live and this was during a meet and greet.

[Matt]

His meet and greet or your meet and greet?

[Zane]

It was my. It was our meet and greet. I think Zayn ran out to go to the bathroom and one of the girls that had come to the meet and greet said her dad also watches the videos and he wanted to take a picture as well.

[Jared]

Okay, so you're saying that this is just like a lookalike?

[Zane]

I. It could be him. I don't know it, but I think.

[Matt]

He never introduced himself is right.

[Zane]

But I remember there was the. The daughter that was like, could my dad also take a picture? And I was like, yeah, sure, sure.

[Matt]

Okay. So you said. You seem a little more excited than sure, sure.

[Zane]

I just, I, you know, you gotta be happy. Yeah. Whoever, you know, put it on ports. I was just, you know.

[Matt]

Okay, what about this one? What about that one?

[Jared]

Who are you on the phone with?

[Zane]

No, he's on the phone.

[Jared]

I know, I know he's on the phone, but he just found out something. What are you both. What are you excited about? That he's on the phone. What are you excited about? That he's on? What are you excited. What are you excited about?

[Zane]

This one, I'm having a hard time remembering. I think this might have been. We were at a catch dinner and.

[Jared]

How dare you wear a merch in this picture?

[Zane]

I didn't know he was going to.

[Matt]

Be coming, but you seem pretty excited that he's there.

[Zane]

I think he. I think I remember him saying something in my ear like, you better smile. I've got people in the room. And I think I was just a little bit nervous.

[Matt]

Okay, so you were like, under duress.

[Zane]

And I did not recognize him from the meet and greet at this moment yet.

[Matt]

Got you.

[Jared]

Okay.

[Matt]

Got you. That's funny.

[Jared]

Can you explain this on a little vacay, huh?

[Zane]

I was on a Disney cruise because I have my camera with me. Yeah, this was the Disney cruise that stopped at Little St. James. Island. Yeah, that's what it's called. Right? I think me acting like I don't know. So, yeah, we stopped and then my mom shot this photo. I just thought it was cool looking.

[Jared]

It's green screen. It's green screen, right?

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Jared]

Yeah. Right.

[Matt]

Also, there's this.

[Jared]

So, unfortunately, Matt's not here to protect himself, but we found this one, too, so that one.

[Zane]

I can't explain that. That's wrong.

[Jared]

Tell me that doesn't look like Mike Sheffer and XM Two out of the.

[Matt]

Three hosts on this show have some, you know, explaining to.

[Jared]

Do you see me? You would never. You'll never find a picture.

[Matt]

No, never.

[Jared]

I would never do that.

[Zane]

Never.

[Jared]

Never. I thought you had something that would.

[Matt]

Be such perfect timing if Heath also came to me separately. Also, Heath, I've had this for.

[Jared]

Wait, he's been sitting on those pictures for a long time. That's really. And I told him, like, whenever we just authentically start talking about the Epstein files, bring that up. That's why as soon as you were.

[Matt]

Like, well, Jared has, like, I wasn't.

[Jared]

Expecting you to bring it up, but as soon as you went down to your computer, he's got to bring it up. I should have set it up better. I was.

[Matt]

No, I was ready.

[Zane]

That's really funny.

[Matt]

I'm just so happy.

[Zane]

The first one looked the best.

[Jared]

The first one's so good.

[Matt]

Yeah, the first one.

[Jared]

So good.

[Zane]

Did you put that in AI or did you.

[Matt]

Oh, I did that by hand. I did that by hand.

[Jared]

That looks really good. Good job, Jared.

[Matt]

Thank you. I was pretty proud of that one.

[Jared]

Is there any way you could send this to the FBI so they can include that in the files? Imagine everything gets leaked, and that's one of them.

[Matt]

That would be so funny.

[Jared]

Gotcha. And you're like, bro, that's not a joke. It's on, like, the New York Times, like, main page.

[Matt]

Oh, my God. Podcaster.

[Jared]

Keith Usar. Oh, my next. Next episode. It's me and Matt.

[Zayn]

Just.

[Jared]

We don't mention anything.

[Zane]

My. My video call in is from jail.

[Jared]

Oh, my God.

[Matt]

Just letting you know. I'm super happy. I have no. No thoughts of.

[Zane]

I am not gonna kill myself.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

I'm not suicidal.

[Jared]

Well, damn, I'm glad that. I'm glad we're able to get those photos out. We've been waiting a long time for that to be brought up again. That's funny because we haven't brought. Nobody's brought it up for a long time.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jared]

Since we put those photos together, I Think legitimately.

[Matt]

Zane had me make those photos, like, the second week I started working.

[Zane]

Really?

[Matt]

Yeah, it's been.

[Jared]

And also it was. I think we talked about it. And then I saw. I actually saw another podcaster do this to a friend. Really forget who, but I saw it a long time ago and I Sensitro is like, this is so funny. And we have to do it with Heath because Heath always brings up the Epstein files. And this would be a perfect one to just.

[Zane]

I think we're. I think we are going to get some more information, though. I think a lot's going to be redacted. But, I mean, the emails that just came out are crazy.

[Matt]

They really. They are. It's just like.

[Jared]

Oh, is that the one where Epstein is, like, emailing back and forth with people? Okay, I saw that one too. I didn't know what the was going on, but I saw it.

[Matt]

I just don't understand, like, politics aside, whatever side you're on, forget about that. I just don't understand how, like, that this administration can't see how bad of, like, PR it looks like.

[Zane]

If you vote to not release it, like, what would possibly be your reasoning?

[Matt]

Exactly.

[Zane]

What could you. Like, how could you. We see that you. You voted against releasing it. Can you go ahead and explain why it's the same.

[Jared]

Like you said, it's the same reason why they would never tell all of us if there was like, an ass. A big giant asteroid heading towards Earth is because it's the. It's the mass hysteria. It's just like the. It's the losing control of everybody on this. In this world.

[Matt]

That is.

[Zane]

I think it's.

[Jared]

And. And this is because this isn't just like us. This is international. Yeah. Like chaos.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Jared]

Where nobody would, like, could trust anybody.

[Matt]

There would be full governmental, like, upheavals around the world.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Matt]

With supposedly the people that are on this list. You know, that's also why I don't think they've told us about aliens. If you want to go down that.

[Zane]

Road, there's definitely some weird.

[Jared]

I'm. Maybe I'm an alien.

[Zane]

You know, it wouldn't surprise me.

[Jared]

Maybe I died already and I came back as a. As a human form. And you have no idea. And I'm on a podcast right now.

[Matt]

Your eyes just blink sideways.

[Jared]

I do. That was one thing that, like, the exorcist said that I was like, sure could be like. He was like. He's like, I. He or believes that there's aliens, but they're like, in human form. I'M like, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody was like, that is true. I'd be like, not shocked. Not shocking at all.

[Matt]

There's.

[Jared]

There's different forms. There's different. Even animals I can like or like, what's it like? Not geckos, chameleon. Chameleons that can morph into their environment.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jared]

That's crazy. If chameleons didn't exist and you told me there was an animal that I was like, nope. I don't believe you.

[Zane]

You really think that they could change colors?

[Jared]

Like, they could change the color to their environment?

[Zane]

Okay, that's one of those things that, like, if you woke up tomorrow and, like, it was proven that we were in a simulation, like, what would you be like? Oh, shit. I cannot believe I fell for that. And it was like, the first thing. WI fi.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

What do you like? But we all just like, nobody knows.

[Matt]

Wireless headphones.

[Zane]

Yeah. Bluetooth airdrop. When I fell for that.

[Jared]

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Shh.

[Jared]

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[Matt]

Oh, interesting. Okay.

[Jared]

Artificial intelligence, like videos. And I feel like that that was one thing that like they never showed in those videos or in those movies. Right? Because like you really think about couldn't.

[Matt]

Even conceive of it. Do you know what I mean?

[Zane]

Yeah, like, I think it was like, not that like. I mean you look at like iRobot, they don't really, I guess talk about AI, but what they have is AI. Yeah, like that all knowing computer. That is what gives the information to like the robots where they're able to react and be human, like. And be able to have like.

[Jared]

Oh yeah, yeah. You know, because it's not run by a human. It's run by an entity that was created.

[Zane]

It is there. But they don't say. I don't think in the movie they call it AI.

[Jared]

They don't they? Well, yeah, no. You know what? I would love to watch iRobot again and see what, like just hear all the terms that they use for that.

[Matt]

Like.

[Jared]

No, no, not. Sorry, not iRobot. Is that iRobot or Eagle Eye?

[Matt]

Both. Well, Eagle Eye, they both had a.

[Jared]

Central system where they. It was like a. The main hub. Yeah, the main hub, right. Both movies had that.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Jared]

One was called Lucy. I think one of the movies they named the central AI thing Lucy. And the other one was the first.

[Zane]

Depiction of AI in a movie was the female robot False Maria in the silent German film Metropolis in 1927.

[Jared]

1927.

[Zane]

Then there was films Space Odyssey in 1968, self directed. AI's Metropolis was the first to bring the concept to screen.

[Jared]

Eagle Eye did not get a 27 Iran.

[Matt]

I was just looking at that. I was like that. No, this movie's way better than a 27.

[Zane]

That's.

[Jared]

No, that movie Was amazing. I actually just watched it recently and it holds up still. Don't give me that. Don't give me that. And Shia LaBeouf, he crushed every role. There's. I don't think there's one movie that I've ever seen where I was like, oh, he sucked in this. Like. Like every movie that he's in is just a good movie.

[Matt]

Have you seen Peanut Butter Falcon?

[Jared]

Yeah. Amazing.

[Matt]

I love that.

[Zane]

What was the Disturbia?

[Jared]

Disturbia is like the sun is in the light Disturbia.

[Zane]

I feel like I remember watching that and not really liking it.

[Matt]

This one's higher. 69%.

[Jared]

No, that was a good movie. I. You know what? I remember watching that and going, damn, I wish this was a series because I thought it was just so good and I felt like it needed to be longer.

[Matt]

Actually, I don't think I've ever seen Disturbia. Yeah.

[Jared]

Watch it. It's really good.

[Zane]

Supposedly, though, like, our government has technology that's 100 years, like advance into the future, but we only have, like, the delay.

[Jared]

Yeah. Casinos have it.

[Zane]

Cameras.

[Matt]

I can.

[Zane]

I.

[Matt]

That makes total and perfect sense to me.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Zane]

I definitely think we have like, anti gravity ships that run on like, magnetic propulsion that aren't, what, like, very far advanced.

[Jared]

You think that they. Do you think they have the. The tools? Tools? Do you think. Do you think they have the tools to turn something invisible?

[Zane]

Not necessarily that the thing becomes invisible, but things can be manipulated if that makes sense.

[Jared]

Like, you know, the movies were like the aircraft. It turn.

[Zane]

I think. I think it would just. I think it would just display what its environment would be. Not that it becomes actually invisible, but it would be like.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Zane]

To be able to blend and camouflage. Like, say it would have like a camera facing the other way that would project that to the front side.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Zane]

To where you wouldn't be able to really see it. Hmm. I think we have definitely stuff like that.

[Matt]

I actually, I feel like I've watched a video that was. Or maybe I'm getting this from a movie, but I feel like somebody maybe created it, like recreated it from the idea they got from a movie or whatever. But it's like shields, like, you know, like riot shields. Right. And essentially the front is those screens and then they just have a camera facing the other way. So then they can walk and it's just projecting what's behind them. And so they can walk while being invisible, you know. Yeah. To whoever's looking that way.

[Zane]

Things that make you go, just think, I think we're way too technologically advanced. I think we need to.

[Jared]

I think we're all stupid.

[Zane]

I think we need to slow it down a bit.

[Matt]

Really?

[Zane]

Yeah. Before a lot of people, like, get hurt from it.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jared]

I don't know. Let's crash and burn.

[Zane]

We remember last time with COVID Crash and burn.

[Matt]

There's like a. There's a principle that says. I forget what the actual name of it, but it's like computing processing power essentially doubles every year. It's like exponential. Right. And we've kind of like crossed that threshold where now it's computing to a point where it's not out of control, but we just. We as physical, like, life forms, cannot adapt to it fast enough.

[Zane]

Like, dude, the whole thing with, like, chemtrails said that forever. It was just. It's the vapor trail from. And it's like they tried to cover that for so long. Now it's. Now it's completely in the open. Like. Yeah, no, we. We do put in the sky. We do do chemtrails and manipulate the weather and. Yes, like, conspiracy proven.

[Jared]

Where did we talk about that? I know we talked about this somewhere. I forget.

[Zane]

It's called cloud seeding.

[Jared]

Cloud. Yeah, yeah, we talked. I think we talked about this on Unfiltered a long time ago.

[Zane]

I just saw a video of, like, from inside one of the planes. That lets the stuff out.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Crazy.

[Matt]

A weather modification technique that involves dispersing silver iodide or other agents into existing clouds to increase precipitation. These particles act as nuclei for supercooled water droplets to freeze and grow into snowflakes or raindrops and helping to boost local water supplies like snowpack and reservoirs. What the fuck? This is a thing?

[Jared]

Yeah, dudes.

[Matt]

Wait. Speaking of trails left by planes and stuff, I don't think we talked about it on the episode when we went to New York.

[Jared]

Oh, okay. So I did tell Heath on, basically, but.

[Matt]

Oh, you did?

[Jared]

But the thing is that I still have no idea how close it was.

[Zane]

Oh, the plane that you saw, brother.

[Matt]

It scared the shit the out of me.

[Zane]

So it flew directly over your plane?

[Matt]

It had to have. Or like, we flew directly under it. Okay, so for context, for the people listening, Zane and I, we went to New York. And when we were on the plane, I had a window seat and my window was open, and I was sitting back watching whatever was on the screen. And I look out the window and I see one of the trails that was left by a plane. And it caught my eye because I was like, that's really fucking close. And I remember I Leaned forward to look out the window. And I look and I can see the plane flying away. And it wasn't that far away. And the trail, like. You know how plane wings kind of like flip up at the end?

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Our little tip at the end of the wing crossed through or either cross through or like cross right under the chemtrail. And I don't know how big that. That tip is, but it can't be more than 10 or 20ft.

[Jared]

And also, there is just so much sky.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Jared]

Where we shouldn't even be that close to each other's trails.

[Matt]

Exactly.

[Jared]

Like you. Like, we shouldn't be seeing any planes that just crossed our paths. Or like up in the sky.

[Zane]

How. How close do you think the plane.

[Matt]

Was to you height wise? If we were like lined up over each other max, probably 20, 25ft.

[Zane]

Holy.

[Matt]

Above us. Right. And by the time I look out the window, it was probably like, like maybe, maybe a hundred yards away. But if you think about how fast planes are flying, that's pretty freaking close.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And I remember, like, seeing that, and I was like, what? What the hell? And at the same time, I text the group chat with everybody. I'm like, did anybody else see that? And nobody else saw it. And then Zayn's manager sent an article where, like, all the flights coming into LAX were grounded because they didn't have enough air traffic controllers. Air traffic controllers monitoring the. The incoming traffic.

[Jared]

That's insane.

[Matt]

And so I'm like, did these pilots even know how close they were to each other?

[Jared]

Or if.

[Matt]

Or.

[Jared]

I mean, I'm. The thing is, I'm sure they get. They have. Don't. They all have contract each other.

[Matt]

They have radar. But the thing is, is like, again, planes move so fast.

[Jared]

Yeah. That.

[Zane]

Especially something like, say it was cloudy, you know, low visibility. If they're instrument flying.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah, man. Then you're. You're relying on, you know, you got no.

[Zane]

No vision out your window. You're just.

[Jared]

And I was saying if we. If we almost did or if it was like, really goddamn close where. They're not going to tell us.

[Matt]

No.

[Jared]

You know?

[Matt]

No, no.

[Zane]

Hey, guys, just want to let everybody know we had a close call with another plane. Just.

[Jared]

Or they're just like, I hope nobody saw that.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Jared]

And then we got one person that saw that.

[Zane]

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[Jared]

What if we just. What if we start having people that don't want to fly anymore? They're just like, I don't want to be pilot anymore and we just start losing pilots.

[Matt]

Oh, there is a pilot shortage.

[Jared]

Gosh, nobody, nobody wants it. Like, I don't think it's like a.

[Matt]

Thing where people actively don't want to be pilots.

[Zane]

It might be the distrust in the group of it all where they don't have faith in the air traffic controllers, they don't have faith. And the people that are working on the planes, maintaining the planes, making sure everything that's out of the pilot's control is good to go because there's so many people involved.

[Jared]

It is crazy how many people are involved in like the checking up on the planes and building the planes.

[Zane]

And if, if they know like, you know, there's a shortage or there's like these shutdowns where people aren't getting paid. Like you're putting your hands into a lot of people that are involved.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

And I wouldn't like, I would be very uneasy.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Now the only thing that really makes up for that is when they do get paid, they get paid a lot. So that, that's nice because my uncle, he's a, he's a private pilot for a family and he was training this kid who he was like 18 or 19 or whatever. And once he got done with his training, he got a job offer from. It was. He was going to be like flying cargo for a company, but 19 years old with a job offer that was like $160,000 a year.

[Jared]

Oh, wow. Wait for 19. 19 year old?

[Matt]

Yeah, to, to like to be whatever the, the second chair is. Like, he's not going to be the captain.

[Jared]

I didn't even know they had people that fucking young in the second chair.

[Matt]

Mm.

[Jared]

Wait, that might be years old.

[Matt]

It might be different for like cargo because you're not transporting passengers.

[Jared]

I'm, I'm. I did not think that you're.

[Zane]

That's.

[Jared]

Why be that young and be a pilot or be anywhere in a fucking cockpit.

[Zane]

My brother, my brother got his pilot's license at 16 or started flying when he was 16.

[Matt]

As long as you have the hours logged, you know you can do it. And the thing was I had no.

[Jared]

Got no 19 year old fly me? You kidding me?

[Zane]

Well, if you notice, you ever do like, like a normal airline, but it's one of the smaller planes like the Eagle.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Those pilots are always significantly younger that dude. Every, like anytime they're working their way.

[Jared]

Up, anytime I go on like a commercial flight, if the, if I see the pilot is old as I'm like, we're in good hands.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Jared]

The older they are, the better it is. Oh, it's. They're retiring that day.

[Matt]

Per.

[Zane]

The most safe flight you could go on is when it's the captain's last flight like that, I feel like, woo, my man just wants to retire. He is not going out.

[Jared]

I, I told you I, I was on a flight like that. I was on a pilot's last flight. It was amazing. It was good energy. Everybody's writing Everybody was writing little notes for the pilot on his last day. It was amazing. That felt good.

[Zane]

The safest plane you could possibly be on.

[Jared]

Yeah. But when I. When I. When I look and they look like.

[Matt]

23 years old, which is so ironic because I feel like we feel the opposite with driving, you know? Like, you ever get, like, see somebody driving erratically or driving slow or something, and you drive past them and it's.

[Jared]

Just like, of course they're 80.

[Matt]

Somebody that looks like they should have been in the ground four years ago.

[Zane]

Why do you have to get another checkup, Another driving test, when you hit, like, 70, 80, and you're not allowed.

[Jared]

To drive more than a certain amount of hours? You know what I mean? Like, I don't. I don't think anybody over the age of 75, 80 can be driving more than an hour a day.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Jared]

You know what I mean? Let's stay off the road.

[Matt]

Maybe I'll. I'll counter that. Like an hour at a time.

[Jared]

Yes.

[Matt]

How about that? Then they.

[Jared]

They need a little break, and they should be monitored.

[Zane]

Just prove you could still do it.

[Jared]

The car should be monitored, too. Like, if they start veering off immediately, it fudge. Goes down to 20 miles an hour and pulls you over.

[Zane]

Nope.

[Jared]

You fucking. You need a rest now for an hour to think about what you did. Think about what you did.

[Zane]

You get put in, time out. The seatbelt doesn't come off. They're just, like, locked in. But.

[Jared]

But, like, no. Like, every time. I've always, like, someone's almost hit me. It's always because they're old. They're like, really old.

[Zane]

And then you feel bad.

[Jared]

You're like, I know you feel bad, too.

[Zane]

But at the same time, they're terrified of driving.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Zane]

Like, my grandma, terrified to drive.

[Matt]

God forbid you try to take my grandma's driver or my. Her car.

[Jared]

Oh, yeah, no, that was.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

But I do think she should be put on a test to be like, grandma, you got to prove yourself, man.

[Matt]

My grandma's turning 98 years old this year.

[Jared]

She's behind the wheel still.

[Matt]

I think finally my parents were able to, like, get her to stop driving because they live close enough. They're like, if you need anything, just call us. Like, we're retired. We can come get you. But it. Oh. She threatened to take people out of her will if they brought up the idea of her really.

[Jared]

Oh, wow.

[Matt]

Driving. Yeah. Like, she was.

[Jared]

Oh, she's like, I'm dying on the road. My last day will be on the road. Grandma, you're gonna kill somebody. She was about that life.

[Zane]

She was hanging that will over head. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Matt]

I know. But I legitimately. I think my mom had to, like, bring in my grandma's priest from church to be. To kind of like to, like, moderate. It just had to do that a couple times.

[Jared]

Those rich old people must feel so powerful having, like, such a big will or such a big, like, having so much money.

[Zane]

Oh, Zayn, Zay, when he's ready to die. Looking at the grandkids like, not you.

[Jared]

I like him. Oh, I make them do so much just so they get a section in that oil.

[Zane]

Oh, Grandpa's back really hurts. Go for a massage. All the kids are running. I got you, grandpa.

[Jared]

But they're also trying to figure out a way to. To get you. To get you out sooner too. They're like, when is it grandpa's time?

[Zane]

Damn. Could somebody get me a soda?

[Jared]

Yeah, that's just a little something special in that soda pop.

[Matt]

Grandpa, you want a cigarette for old times?

[Zane]

Come on, treat yourself.

[Jared]

No filter. No filter. Shelter.

[Matt]

That's the thing. My grandma doesn't even have, like, that big of a. Of a will, but, like, yet my aunts and uncle, some of them are, like, fighting over it.

[Zane]

I'm like, it causes so much.

[Jared]

That's such a crazy thing to, like, such issues. It's, like, so evil. It really is like, nobody should be fighting over. It's like, whoever's money it is, it is their. At their discretion, they could put it wherever the they feel like.

[Zane]

It's. Imagine fighting for something that's not yours.

[Matt]

Right?

[Jared]

And I'm sure it makes the person has a will feel like fucking shit.

[Zane]

Oh, wow.

[Jared]

Like, they don't care about me. I love the concert we just had two minutes ago. Now we're defended. Yeah, it's not nice. It's not nice.

[Matt]

Like, my grandma worked at a grocery store for, like, 60 years. She's not. What? What do you want the twin bed that she sleeps in? Like, you're not getting that much. Yeah, okay.

[Zane]

And then people, oh, I want grandma's jewelry. It's like, okay, okay.

[Matt]

I want grandma's Birkin.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Jared]

Yo, chill.

[Zane]

Chill is mine. You're like, no, no. Whatever. It's fake anyways. And then, like, you try to, like, convince them it's not real so they don't want it. I heard it was all fake.

[Jared]

Would you be petty enough to be. To. To not put anyone on the wheel and just have it go to the government? No, I'll give it to the dog.

[Zane]

If I was, if I was to do anything, if I didn't want to give my will to anybody, I'd blow it all. Well, I'd be 90 years old, car after car.

[Matt]

Grandpa, do you really need a Lamborghini right now?

[Jared]

Yeah, sure I do.

[Zane]

Maybe I do.

[Jared]

There is something really just nice about blowing it all. And when, you know, you have like a year left.

[Matt]

Oh.

[Jared]

Or just, you know what? I would.

[Matt]

This is crazy.

[Jared]

This is crazy. Imagine you had like a million dollars to your name, right? That was your will. I would take that million and like, and I'm about to die, right. First, do as much as I could with the money, but take that rest and just blow it all on lottery tickets. Lottery tickets all high every. I'd hire like a hundred people to just scratch them off.

[Zane]

Zayn wins, gets 500 million and then is in bigger trouble, doesn't know what to do with that money. He's like, how the do I blow this? I think it would be incredibly difficult to blow 500 million. Oh, what would you do?

[Matt]

There is an insane. I saw a tick tock recently that was kind of describing the difference between like a million and a billion and stuff and they were like, you would have to spend like $10,000 every single day for like 240 years or something. It might even be longer. That's in order to spend $1 billion.

[Zane]

It makes no sense.

[Jared]

Like the difference between a million and a billion is. Yeah, just fudgeing. It makes no sense.

[Zane]

And when you look at it, it doesn't seem like it would be like, obviously, you know, it's a lot, but like the actual difference. And then they did the, the other analogy or whatever it was, where they did it for seconds.

[Matt]

Oh yeah, for seconds.

[Jared]

What do you mean?

[Zane]

Like how much? Like put it into like perspective of time. Oh, like a million dollars was a million seconds. Like how long that would be versus.

[Jared]

Oh yes, yes.

[Zane]

OK, so 1 million seconds is approximately 11.6 days.

[Matt]

A billion seconds.

[Zane]

31.7 years.

[Jared]

That's fucking crazy, dude.

[Zane]

From 1 million to 1.

[Jared]

That makes no fucking sense. It's out of control. That makes no fucking sense.

[Matt]

And then a trillion do a trillion. 31,000 years. 31,688 years.

[Jared]

And can you. And the fact that we're trillion, trillions of dollars in debt.

[Matt]

Oh yeah, we're like $36 trillion.

[Jared]

How are we $36 trillion in debt? To who? To who? To who?

[Zane]

To who? To who?

[Jared]

How do we even do fucking who? Yahuwah. To whoah. Yuhuah. To fucking who? To God. To who? How the fuck? What do you mean?

[Matt]

I love this. To put that into perspective, 1 trillion seconds ago was about 31,700 nine years ago. The time of the hunter gatherers, long before the invention of written history and the construction of the pyramids. But then did you see that there is a way for Elon Musk to become the world's first trillionaire? I cannot fathom.

[Jared]

My head hurts.

[Zane]

I think there's families that have a trillion.

[Matt]

I think Apple is like a trillion dollar company. I think so.

[Jared]

Does Apple have like a bank account? Like, do you like. Do you go to like, Apple, like Chase bank and like Apple has an account? How does that work?

[Matt]

Apple is a fucking four trillion dollar company. Just let that sink in.

[Zane]

I hope you like your new phone.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Matt]

You know how they got to be a trillion dollar company?

[Zane]

By cutting out the boxes that come with the charger?

[Matt]

No, no, no, no. They sell like this for $230.

[Zane]

What is that?

[Jared]

It's.

[Zane]

What is new?

[Matt]

IPhone. Sock.

[Jared]

Oh, did you. Wait, did you fucking see? Did you see that they are coming up with a new Air AirPod with a screen on it?

[Zane]

Yes.

[Jared]

And people were like, we're getting a fucking ipod again. The ipod just came back around and everyone's like, oh, look at the AirPod with a screen on it. It's like, no, bitch, we just got the fucking ipod again. We just. The ipod just came back around and everyone is freaking out of it. It's an ipod fucking shuffle. It's a fucking ipod nano.

[Zane]

With the cases just attached or with that. With the. With the earbuds attached.

[Jared]

It's an ipod nano.

[Matt]

Unbelievable.

[Jared]

Unbelievable. Go fuck yourself. I hate that. I fucking hate that.

[Zane]

Yeah, that makes me really, really angry inside.

[Jared]

Which.

[Matt]

If this came out at the time of like the nano, we'd be like, fucking awesome.

[Jared]

This would be insane. If it came out the time we got. We had the ipod shuffle. Imagine that you're just without the fucking strings. Are you kidding me?

[Matt]

But today, no need.

[Jared]

There's no need for the screen.

[Zane]

Who's changing it on that anyways? You're on your phone.

[Jared]

Yeah, like there's exactly. Everybody has their phone on them. Or you don't even need the phone or the case because you just go. Yeah, you just fucking click it twice. You're in the next song.

[Zane]

They're gonna market this as like, it's for people who run.

[Jared]

Oh, wait, wait. Guess, Heath, without looking, guess how much it is.

[Zane]

500 bucks.

[Matt]

Bucks.

[Jared]

Yep. 450. Insane. Stupid, stupid price.

[Matt]

If you buy this, you're stupid. Yeah, I come in. Whoever.

[Jared]

Whoever. Whoever buys this.

[Zane]

That's really cool.

[Jared]

You're a whore. You're a. Whoa.

[Zane]

If you're buying a fucking 300 sock around your arm.

[Jared]

That's some. You know, that's some shit Jacob Elordi would wear. That is some shit. You would see him walk out of a fucking New York Fashion Week show, and he has that shit. And everyone's like, I gotta have it. Oh, $230.

[Zane]

It's from Issey Miyake, though.

[Matt]

What is that?

[Jared]

It's 230 fucking dollars. It's half of that Airpod. Nano. Nano, Yo.

[Zane]

I'm just sick of the consumerism, like, just the consumer culture of just feeling like we need this shit.

[Jared]

It's absolutely insane. Zayn's ordering it.

[Zane]

We need to stop.

[Jared]

The party ends now.

[Zane]

The party ends tomorrow.

[Matt]

You're paying $230 for polyester.

[Jared]

Go yourself.

[Zane]

I want to get rid of my phone, and I want to get a little flip guy. Do it and just.

[Matt]

What's it called?

[Jared]

That's a good. That's a good challenge, Heath. You should do it.

[Zane]

Well, I want to get. I forget what it's called, but it's one of those, like, dumb phones.

[Matt]

Yeah, I think that's what it is called. I think it's called the dumb phone.

[Zane]

Phone, where it's all black and white. The only thing it has on it is texting, calling.

[Jared]

Never.

[Matt]

Never heard music.

[Zane]

It's. What's the name of it? The. The brand?

[Matt]

This? No, like this.

[Zane]

Click that top one to the right. One more.

[Matt]

That one.

[Zane]

That's the one I was looking into. Light phone. That's it.

[Matt]

Light phone.

[Jared]

700.

[Zane]

Look at that. All you get. Phone alarm, directions, music, notes, calendar.

[Jared]

It's 700. Heath, you're gonna have to. No, the price is 700. To make your life. Life harder.

[Matt]

Also, why is it shaped like that? Why is it so wide?

[Zane]

All that? And it's bigger than the iPhone.

[Jared]

Because they're trying to, like. They're trying to mimic, like, a beeper. Like, just like something. You just have it on the side like a. Who made this? The light phone?

[Zane]

Yeah, it's called light phone. Go back, though. I want to see that other one that looked like a jitterbug.

[Jared]

Do they still sell that? The jitterbug?

[Zane]

That one on the right. No, one more.

[Jared]

That.

[Zane]

That's what I want, baby.

[Jared]

That's literally. My grandma has that phone. Right, right. Now she 100% has that phone. What is the Hunger Games symbol? What is that?

[Matt]

F1 Pro.

[Zane]

All right, that's all you need.

[Matt]

This looks like my first phone.

[Jared]

I mean, that's.

[Matt]

You know what?

[Jared]

That's a great, like, imagine like, you're at a bar and you just, like, pull out your phone and go like that. Everybody be like, no, no, no.

[Zane]

A girl comes up, you're like, let me get your number. You're like, yeah, one second. You flip your phone. She.

[Jared]

That's a green flag right there. That's a green flag. But I pull out multiple phones.

[Zane]

But then, like, you have, like, an iPad at home or something to, like, upload your Instagram.

[Jared]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zane]

Because it's so hard to, like, not scroll. It's so hard.

[Matt]

Oh, I know.

[Zane]

It's so annoying.

[Jared]

They've. They've mastered it. They have mastered the art of making us need. It's not want to need to scroll.

[Zane]

I have such a problem. Like, when I wake up and go.

[Matt]

To bed, I try so hard, and.

[Zane]

I know it's bad for me. I know it's messing up my sleep. Just, like, go pitch black in my room, and I just got this bright light in front of my face and I'm just. Yeah, it's terrible.

[Matt]

I try so hard to not use it in the morning, but I just, like, my brain, like, forgets that I don't want to use it. And so when I turn off my alarm, it's just immediately, like, I don't get out of bed for, like, another 20 minutes.

[Jared]

You know, they need to come up with some. I don't know how. Like, this. I'm just gonna just spitball and you take it and try to make something out of it.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Jared]

They should just come up with something. Like, a brand is just like, we are anti. Looking at your phone all day. It's almost like a. Like a dare program, but for, like, tech, right? Where it's like our, you know, we cannot get off our phones. So we're going to start rewarding people that really consume their, like, on their phone less, right? So for every second or for every minute that you're not on your phone scrolling, we're gonna reward you with points. And you could take these points. You could buy flights, you could buy groceries, you could buy gas. You just buy, like, it's. It just. It's a way to reward people to not be on their phone and to, like.

[Matt]

Interesting.

[Jared]

Take that and. And make something out of it.

[Matt]

Oh, you can make something out of that.

[Jared]

You Know what I mean?

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Jared]

I don't know how you're gonna. I don't know how you're gonna do that.

[Matt]

Well, you think about.

[Jared]

There's no way. There's no way to.

[Zane]

Because they wouldn't want to go out and just give all that money away because you, you decided to do something. Especially when the advertisers are the ones that are paying where they get the money from.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Zane]

If you're on your phone, if you.

[Matt]

Think about it, it's like, it's sim. I feel like it's similar to, like, credit card rewards points. Right. You get rewarded the more you use it. The more you use it. But it's okay. But it's the opposite where if you built this out as a company, you could partner with brands to, like, feature, because that would still get people to consume your product. Right. Like, if you got, like, you could partner with Delta, Zane would hack it.

[Zane]

He'd have a phone that he uses and one that he leaves off all the time. I see. I haven't touched my. Use this phone.

[Jared]

So that. So the way it would work is that you have. You have to download their app. Right. And so the app is on your phone and then it has access to like, just like your whole phone. Right. And it only monitors or turns on when your phone is not being used.

[Matt]

Yes, but I. Or to Heath's point, there is, There's.

[Jared]

A way, there's a way around it, but, like, it's connected to your Apple id, Right. So if your Apple ID is on, like an iPad and the other phone, then maybe it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. But.

[Matt]

No, no, no, it can work.

[Jared]

It's a fun. It's a fun.

[Matt]

Listen, we've. We've thought about it for 30 seconds. It can work.

[Jared]

There's. There's. There's just a way to do it.

[Zane]

The way I'm like, oh, I should probably read. Read my book before I go to bed. But then I'm like, but colors and sounds.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Zane]

And like, I get it. That's why kids have such a hard time when you put, like, screen time.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Zane]

The baby wants the screen.

[Matt]

Don't you dare give your baby.

[Zane]

Absolutely not.

[Matt]

I. I didn't think you would, like.

[Zane]

I know what it does to me.

[Matt]

Imagine being two and your brain is basically just.

[Jared]

And you gotta, like, you gotta. You gotta. If you're gonna.

[Matt]

If you.

[Jared]

If you want to be really good with it, you have to make sure there's only a TV on your Phone and like maybe in your bathroom, like wherever a kid won't be. Just that's where you get your TV time. If you ever want TV time but just don't have it in the living room or don't have like the baby just doesn't know a screen exists. Like may have the baby live. Like a, like a, like a. What is it? What do they call it? That don't do tech. Amish. Like. Yeah, have like an Amish household.

[Matt]

Yeah, have them churning butter.

[Jared]

You should do an experiment. Use your kid as an experiment.

[Zane]

I'm just thinking like, because like when I was younger, like obviously we had like our cell phones when we got into like high school and stuff like that, which weren't what we have today. I think I got a iPhone. Senior years when they were like getting big. We had one TV in the house in the living room that we would only put on after we ate dinner at the table as a family. I loved that growing up.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Get home from school, do some homework. My mom was cooking dinner. We would sit together, we would eat and then be like, all right, let's put something on the tv. Watch TV for like an hour and a half, so. And then, all right, time for bed.

[Matt]

Very, very similar setup. TVs weren't allowed in the bedroom.

[Zane]

I didn't have a TV in my bedroom either.

[Jared]

TVs in the bedroom just weren't a thing.

[Zane]

Even in parents, my parents didn't have a TV in their bedroom.

[Jared]

Yeah, I hadn't come for a long time.

[Zane]

They did, they did after I got like much older. They had a TV in there, but then they like didn't really.

[Matt]

I think all of my friends had TVs in their rooms.

[Zane]

Yep, me too.

[Matt]

I. But I wasn't allowed. We had two TVs in the house. There's one in the living room. And then we had like a semi finished basement. And that's where the other TV was.

[Jared]

That's where I was not. Never allowed to have a computer in my room ever. We had one that was a big no.

[Zane]

1 computer in the living room that everybody used.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Because then like you go to your friend's house that had TVs in the room, do a little sleepover. Boy. It was Skinnamax. You know. You know what time that's, that's it.

[Jared]

That late time. Hbo.

[Matt]

We had very different childhoods growing up. Mine was. We would play Rock Band.

[Zane]

Well, we would play Rock Band too. But then when it got, we would.

[Jared]

We would wait till like it usually at 3:00am is when, like, they would start playing the HBO, like the special, like adult shows. Pause it, pause it, pause it.

[Zane]

Rwanda.

[Jared]

Or you'd have it on last and like, the last would be, like. Would be like a MTV or Cartoon Network or something that return channel to the return.

[Matt]

The last.

[Zane]

The last. You hear somebody come.

[Jared]

But you know what I would do? I would press last and immediately go up in the channel. So the last was that. Do that because. Because if they ever took the remote and just press last, they know, oh.

[Matt]

You found out a time or two.

[Jared]

But, like, you know, can you get in trouble for that? Is that, like, crazy? What, Like a parent can't ground you because you want to watch something like, naughty.

[Matt]

I think they absolutely can.

[Zane]

They can't take it away from me. Good luck.

[Matt]

They can't do that.

[Jared]

They can't do that.

[Zane]

It's your space. It's your area.

[Jared]

That's not fair.

[Zane]

It's your tv, man. I want to make music a thing. I think I talked to you about that. Like, not on a podcast, but just like, sitting and enjoying music.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Jared]

Bring that good music back. Good sleep.

[Zane]

Good enough to eat.

[Jared]

Good sweet.

[Zane]

Me with my kid and Mariah. Do you mind if I put on a record real quick?

[Jared]

My good sweet.

[Zane]

We're cooking dinner.

[Jared]

Good enough to eat.

[Zane]

Yeah. I want to have, like, sit down time and just listen to music.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Zane]

I've been really just enjoying putting a record on and then just kind of.

[Matt]

Kind of vibing out existing.

[Zane]

I've noticed that I'm so happy when I have music that I like on. Like, just listening to music, like, it puts me in such a good mood.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

It's good no matter what, too. But the biggest thing is, like, finding the. The type of music that's going to get to that mood.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Because it varies every day.

[Matt]

Like, when I go to the gym, it's a. It's a different struggle. It's. Yeah.

[Zane]

What's gonna hype you up? Because then if you do the same thing over and over, you're just like, oh, I know. Loses its effect.

[Jared]

I've been. I've been doing a lot of my workouts in silence. I've done that because it stresses me out trying to find the perfect song every single time. Where now I just. In silence.

[Zane]

Because then you get distracted if a song comes on that you don't like. You're like, yeah, I can't lift to this. Yeah. Yeah. I can't work after this.

[Jared]

I can't. Yeah, dude. Because when a bad song's on, I Literally get weaker. Like, literally, I start shaking. I can't do it. So I just.

[Matt]

Yeah, sometimes I'll just listen to podcasts.

[Jared]

I. I really need to train my brain to listen to podcasts that are gonna, like, improve my life.

[Matt]

I'm telling you, I just. Diary of a CEO. It's so interesting. I want to send you one.

[Zane]

Yes.

[Matt]

I want to check it out, because there was one that obviously, I am nowhere near having a baby. Right. But one of the most interesting podcasts I listened to was he had, like, a fertility expert on the podcast, and she was talking about all sorts of things, but specifically what got me was how parents connect to their kids and, like, the different roles that, you know, parents play in a kid's life. And I was thinking about this recently because you were saying, I think Annie Letterman or somebody asked you how it feels knowing that you're, like, kids about to be born, and you said, I know it's real, but it doesn't feel real. And the reason I want to send you this is because there's a part where she was, like. Like, a father and his child don't actually connect or, like, start to form a bond until. Physical touch.

[Zane]

I've heard that, too. Yeah.

[Matt]

Involved. Right. And so it's like, you're not wrong for feeling the way that you feel, because it's just, like, biologically ingrained that it's like, that's how fathers and children bond is, like, once you hold them and stuff like that. And it's just. So she goes all into, like, the science and the chemicals our brains release. But it's so interesting to just, like, learn stuff like that. I want to send you that.

[Zane]

It makes sense because, like, Mariah's been carrying our child, like, feels him moving every day. Feels.

[Matt]

Yeah. She's growing him, so it makes sense that she feels more connected, whereas you. You just see it happening, but it. You're not, like, experiencing it.

[Zane]

Can't believe I'm so close.

[Jared]

I know when this comes out, you have probably, oh, maybe a week. Yeah. I know the first time I see is probably gonna be on a FaceTime. So weird. That's crazy. Through. Through tech. Tech.

[Zane]

You know, I'll send you a picture and send me, like, a postcard.

[Jared]

Send me a vintage photo. I want. I want. I want to see if they're a Polaroid picture.

[Zane]

Oh.

[Jared]

So it feels a more authentic.

[Zane]

I'll put. I'll put ink on my baby's foot. And then.

[Jared]

Oh, yeah. Just so I. Yeah, just. That's the first thing I See, just tease me a little bit. Give me a little bit more. Like Chrome, Chrome, Chrome. I think that's all we have for today.

[Zane]

Thanks for tuning in. We love you guys.

[Jared]

That was so fun. What a fun app. What a fun ep period. Enjoyed this we, we are so happy that you're here every month watching, listening to us, taking the time out of your busy life and you could be doing anything else right now and you.

[Zane]

Chose to spend it with us. So thank you for that.

[Jared]

So thank you. We appreciate that. All right, we love you and we will see you guys next time. And happy holidays.

[Zane]

Did you know that Thanksgiving was an arms deal?

[Matt]

Okay.

[Zane]

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