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space80@talkspace.com I'm rolling on everything. Jared, you rolling?
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I'm rolling. All right, guys, we have. We have a. We. We got a. We got to. We have a. We have an action packed episode. We got it. We got to lock in. All right, everybody just lock in.
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Everybody lock in.
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Did you guys ever do lock ins when you were younger?
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Oh, what?
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The term lock in, like a lock
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in was like a field trip or it was like you got to spend the night somewhere.
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That's called a lock in.
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Yeah, like a lock in.
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Maybe we call that field trip.
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I've never heard that as a, like a overnight field trip.
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Well, we did it for like Cub Scouts and we would do these like. Yeah. Excursions as the cub Scouts with other troops. And we would stay the night at like the Children's Museum. We got to stay the night.
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Oh, that's fun.
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Like you do. What are you doing?
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Stay the night at A children's museum. What the hell is this?
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I, I, you know what, it does sound weird looking.
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And who were the chaperones?
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Our dad.
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I'll volunteer. Like, whoa, why are we so excited here?
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Yeah, but it was fun. I loved it.
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Is this in middle school, high school, elementary school. Oh, you were young.
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But then I feel like, yeah, we did it in elementary school. Cuz that's when I was in Cub Scouts. I never became a boy scout. And that's like middle school, high school.
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But then like that's okay.
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Youth groups. I feel like young life would do lock ins where basically you would go to like a local gym or something and they would host it and you would basically stay up all night and.
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Okay.
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Till the break of dawn.
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We had, I think the only thing, the only time I've ever experienced that was that everglade. The little.
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Oh, our little field trip.
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Our, because our school, our, our magnet program was environmental science. So it was like a section of the school where like Heath and I were in where we like all of our, like half of our classes were environmental science based. So it'd be either marine biology or, or like biology study a plant. Just like, just different things that have to do with that. So our big, big trip was they took the entire magnet program, different sections though they like split into groups where we would go all the way. Honestly, he's kind of a shitty trip.
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It was like, it was like.
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It was not that, but we, but I think we made it fun because what it turned to at night when we would go to sleep, put us all in one, wasn't it? One giant room. Like it was kind of, it was
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one big house and it was like
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a, literally a fraternity.
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And girls.
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Yes, but boys on one side, girls on the other. And then the adults, the adults slept in the center.
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Okay.
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It was pretty much like Love island in a way. Like.
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Yeah. Luke Bombshell enters the Everglades.
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A hot new gator entered the villa.
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Oh yeah. Stuff would always like go down on the like overnight field trips. You know, people start crushing, people start holding hands. Just people start admitting things and their feelings for each other that they never have before at school.
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Nothing really happened on our trip, but I know on Heath's trip, Heath's little section. I know what happened with the whole underwear situation. I remember you say telling me that story.
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Oh, oh, hilarious. On the frozen underwear.
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Oh, frozen underwear.
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On the boy side of the house. Some of the guys like took this one kid's underwear that he had packed and got it wet like Put it under the sink, and then stuck it in the freezer. It's like hard underwear.
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Classic.
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And then, you know, that was his only pair of underwear, too. Probably that's because, you know, we're only staying there for a night. But, like, you're out there, it's hot, humid, you're going through the swamp, you're wearing clogs. It's just like.
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But, like, icy underwear with swamp ass. Kind of.
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Yeah, kind of nice.
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But I would not say it was, like. It was very informational. Like, it was like a. We take a tour through the swamp, and everyone's just, like, slogging. You're swat. You're swatting mosquitoes off you. Like, it's. It was definitely more for the teachers. Like, they thought they were doing something with that. But, like, I don't think we were taking anything home from that for sure. I would like to know how many people that went into that Magnum program actually went into environmental, like, pursuit a career. Yeah. I think the only person that went anywhere near that field and it's not even environmental. Is dating is Danny.
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Yeah.
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Was it. The whole school had to be part of the environmental scientists. It was like its own little, like, branch that you could.
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So I think focus on. The thing is, like, with magnets, it allows you to go to schools that you're not zoned for.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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So you weren't allowed. People would just, like, do it just to be able to go to the school.
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Correct. That's, like, how magnet programs work. Right.
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But I don't think people really cared that it was based on, you know, marine biology or, like, having to do with that.
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Knowing my experience, we, like, a lot of the same people, a lot of our friends were going to the same school. Like, I knew a few of my friends were going to the same school. And, like, that's, like, the only friends I had. So I was like, we. We were. I was fighting.
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Yeah.
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Because he's writing his letter.
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I'm just dying to learn about these trees.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Some environmental science.
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You have to get the grades. You have to. And you have to, like, be accepted into the magnet program.
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Program.
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And, you know, some people didn't get accepted. Yeah, that sucks. Because, like, when, you know, all your friends are going there, but the only way to get in is in this program. It's like, damn it. Okay. And then if you didn't get, like, where our zone was, if you didn't get into there, you have to go to Plantation High.
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Okay.
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So our.
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Our high school system, every school had its own like focus. Like one high school, if you wanted to do radio, television, film, they had their own like full on TV movie studio and stuff there. Ours was long criminal justice. So we had like a. We had an actual court in our school for like kids to learn how. Just going to like how the court system is like and stuff. And you do simulations of like. Yeah. Civil suits and stuff. And they would do forensic programs. Like kids would like pose for like fake dead bodies and stuff.
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Oh, that's fun. That sounds awesome.
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It was pretty cool. But yeah, every school had its own like thing you could focus on. But I didn't do that.
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We planted propagules.
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So yeah, with propagules. He's very good.
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It's a propagule.
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It's like a little. It's like a little mini like plant thing you put in.
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Baby, baby. Little mangrove type, little seed thing.
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Those Florida things.
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Yes, very. Yes, very Florida.
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You always see them like on the ground out in Florida, down by the Everglades and the marshes.
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They thought we gave a. About any of this. Oh God. Remember those? A few teachers, he. They were like obsessed. Like all, all the teachers in the magnet program.
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As they should be.
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As they should be. Yeah. But it was just like you could tell all the students were just like, like wrap it up, wrap it up.
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What was weird is we had like a whole tilapia tank in the back. Do you remember that?
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Y' all had real tilapia like fish at your school?
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Wait, which behind?
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Behind Jacoby's class. Like on the outside.
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Yes, yes.
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All those tanks, there was a bunch of like propagules inside, like the water. But then there was like also like fish.
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They really made that section of school look like super like crazy because it was like, oh, we want. Because they would invite different people. Remember?
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Yeah.
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Cousteau's son.
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What
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son?
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Oh, that's very cool. Iconic oceanographer, marine biologist of all time. Right?
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So it was like they wanted to like impress people like that.
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And our teacher was sitting there like this.
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Oh yeah, she was biting her lip.
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He basically invented the scuba tank. Right? Didn't Jaco do that something? Yeah, I know, like Life Aquatic of Steve Zisu. The Wes Anderson film is like kind of basically aesthetic.
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That's a good Halloween costume. I feel like you could really rock that.
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I have always wanted to do that. I've always wanted to have a big group of us as like, you know, the life aquatic characters. It's an easy costume, but you gotta have like a big group of people
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and imagine Recreating that movie poster.
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Yes. Oh, yeah.
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Now you can just get AI to do that. You don't even need it.
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True, true, true. But, yeah, that's pretty cool.
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Yeah. Let's roll the intro now.
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Run it.
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Let's run it.
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3, 2, 1.
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It's coffee time, baby. Let's go. I honestly don't even know what the
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hell I was doing.
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I was, like, rowing a boat, and then I was like. I had the submarine light that was underwater.
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Oh, okay.
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You know, dude, it's hard since Mariah's been gone. I've been trying to replace her with, like, the whole Matt and Mariah gig. I'm. Or bit. I'm just trying to, like, participate.
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You're fine.
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Yeah, yeah. I'm just doing my best. I will never be as good as Mariah, but, like, you know, I try my best. All right. Welcome back to Zany Heath Unfilter, baby.
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I'm Z. I'm Heath.
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I'm Matt.
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And thank you again for coming to another episode. I hope you guys have had a lovely, lovely week.
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Seriously, I hope it's been lovely. I'm finally, like, getting, like, readjusted. I'm still like, jet lag, but not. But kind of.
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Yeah. I'm glad that you finally got to go to China, though. It looked beautiful, by the way. Like, when that picture that you showed of, like, the. The tower, it looks like.
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Oh, the summer palace one. Yeah.
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Just from your room. Oh.
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Oh, from. In Shanghai.
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Oh, yeah. It just looked like you were, like. It looked like you hopped in a time machine and you were, like, 50 years ahead. I was. It was just, like, insane to see,
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but it felt like I was in a time machine. Especially in Shanghai.
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That is, like. That is crazy. That looks like a video game.
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It just looks like Shanghai was like New York City but on steroids. I think is the best way for me to, like, truly describe it. It was just this endless metropolis.
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What is that building right there?
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That is, I believe it's called the Oriental Pearl Tower. Basically the Pearl Tower. It's, I think, mostly just like kind of an observation deck.
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It's not like it's like Eiffel Tower is just like, you kind of go to the top, look, go down.
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Adds a lot to, like, the landscape of everything or the skyline, but I don't think there are offices in it. And Patricia and I really didn't go in it because the view in our hotel room was, like, amazing. We were basically eye level to it. So we're like, why should we get in that to see another view.
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Yeah.
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But definitely I splurged a bit to have that view because it just. Oh, it was just gorgeous.
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Looking at it every day, I would. I would probably like. I think one of my priorities would be to try to get a room that I have a good view of Shanghai like that. What was. What would you say your top like, like your pros and cons of of Shanghai. What did you love and where you're just like, oh, I don't like, I don't. I don't with this.
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I mean that we don't have this great questions. I think the pros I loved about Shanghai was I. I mean it's similar to what anytime when we went to Japan and Korea is just their efficiency out there. They really have thought of everything. It's a very organized city especially it's very pedestrian friendly. Even like your customer service experience when you just transactions going into like a restaurant, ordering your food. I swear everything came out like that. We never had cash at all on us. It's a completely like cashless.
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Oh wait, was Japan like that too? I feel like they took a lot of.
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We had a lot of cash.
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Apple, we had some cash on us if we were ever in a pinch. But truly out there.
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Yeah.
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But with that though, that is a bit of a con because when you are going to China, everything out there is like on a whole different system of apps and everything. Like they don't like have Venmo or really Apple Pay and stuff. Some places have Apple pay, they don't have Apple pay. But as Americans, you have to have this thing called Alipay, which is this app and this is not an ad me talking about it, but it's this like QR code that they either scan or you scan theirs and you pay them like that.
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Oh, so it's like Venmo. Almost like Venmo. You scan the barcode pay.
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It's just like that. Very instantaneous.
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Oh, and that's like that when you're shopping, when you go to restaurants like that. I can't even imagine pulling out my Venmo to pay a restaurant money. Interesting to feed me. Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay.
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So that's how it worked. And also in the app is basically their Uber which is called DD Taxi. And dude, the Ubers out there get. It is crazy how cheap it is. Also just China in general, how strong the American dollar is out there.
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Yeah.
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For us to go an hour and a half. We like went to this one Rivertown City. That was really awesome. I believe it's called Jujia Jiao or Dujiao.
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I get it.
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And it was like an hour and a half to get there. Guess how much the Uber. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
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Let me guess. 20 bucks.
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Just about like $25.
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That's insane.
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$25? That would cost well over 130 bucks.
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Easy, easy.
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And that was like also being in a luxurious one too, like getting the XL and everything. So that was. It was just insane being able to get around via taxi and like these Ubers on an insanely cheap, like $.
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Would you say it was more convenient than Japan in terms of what, like, getting around? Yeah, just like, just like you said, like you're saying equal.
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I would say equal. My only complain sometimes I feel like it would say, oh, yeah, the Ubers are like two minutes away, but it really would be like seven minutes every time. That was kind of like a little annoying. And then there were some instances where I was just taking straight up cabs. I wasn't using the app, but they didn't have like the international alipay for, like Americans. And then there just were times where I was in like, well, I don't know how to pay you kind of a situation, but, like, that's when you
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would have cash on you.
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Well, we didn't.
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Oh, you did?
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Yeah. We'll make Wilma cash. I don't have cash. Oh, it was fun, really. Getting to bust out my Mandarin too, Matt.
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Trying to match. Not pay for anything other than. Yeah, well, mayo. Well, mayo. American.
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I have. I do not have. So. Okay. Did that answer your question too, about conveniences and stuff like that?
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Was it as clean as Japan?
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Okay. I wouldn't say no. It isn't as clean. It's definitely a little grittier. And once again, anybody who lives in China, I'm just speaking on my own experience being there. I know that this is a massive country with also has like a billion people, so. No, it is insanely clean, especially on the streets and everything. It's also insanely safe as well.
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Yeah.
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If I were to say, like, it the way it's grittier. The smoking culture out there is pretty damn strong.
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Okay.
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Like it. Sig Sig culture is real. People are out in China smoking cigs.
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And more than. More than Paris.
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Great question. I think in Paris, it's a lot of people sitting down and smoking. I don't feel like they're out and about, like, really walking. Like, when I think of Paris and smoking cigarettes, I think it's. Yeah, you're at your cafe, is going out There it is. Like, you can smell the cigarettes, like, in the air.
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It is just like they're cold. Like they like tough. If you don't like cigarettes.
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Yeah.
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You're smoking around them. You got it.
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Like.
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So for restaurants, was there still smoking sections or was it.
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It was never indoors. But here's where I say this thing about going indoors. The bathrooms. There it says no smoking and it's all the signs. Please don't smoke in the bathrooms. Dude, everybody is smoking in the bathrooms. In the stalls.
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Cigarettes in the stalls.
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Yes.
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Wait, why though?
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Well, one, when you have a cig, you kind of need to take a. Like, Right. You know, it's kind of like. It's a. What's the word? It's like a muscle relaxer.
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I know, but like where I'm. I'm so.
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They're not. I'm not saying when you go into the bathrooms, there are people sitting there by the sink smoking cigarettes. Okay, that's. No, you can smell it because everyone. Everyone is in their stalls smoking cigarettes.
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That's great.
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I don't know if they're really there, like fully lighting it. They also have those digital ones where like you put your cigarette inside of it and it's kind of burning. Europe a lot.
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They had that a lot in Japan too.
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But it doesn't. It does not matter how nice of an establishment you're in. Like, we are in like the finest of malls that are beautiful, big, grand, super clean everything. When you go to the bathrooms, though, it just smells like cigarettes. And there's even attendant to every single bathroom. Like, I'm not saying they're like giving you mints and cologne and stuff, but there's a person who's making sure that, you know, the soap's filled and there's towels and everything. Because there's so many people in China. Yeah. I never once felt like claustrophobic. There's that many people out there, but they're just dealing with a lot of people coming in and out.
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Yeah.
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So in cigarettes, it's just part of their culture there. It just smelled like cigs and do
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they have the same brands as here or is it completely different out there?
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I didn't. I would sometimes look at like all the different cartons of cigarettes. Yeah. I didn't rec. There wasn't like Marlboros or American spirits.
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You see, I would have brought some of those home. Like, to me, that's so cool. Look at that.
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They definitely didn't have, like, this is going to give you cancer. Or like the surgeon General warnings don't look that strong.
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I mean, are you sure? It probably does.
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Say it probably. But it's not like, you know, as in your face as it is for other countries.
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This is pretty, though. That is definitely. They have the prettiest boxes of cigarettes out of everybody.
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Of course.
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Yeah.
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Go back to that picture. Is the. Are the pandas doing it on that one on the right?
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What is that? They're just hanging out, munching on some bamboo.
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Sorry. He has a heat screen is a little over there so you can't see it.
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Okay.
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We love you so yeah, that was some weird stuff. Just like the cigarettes.
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Yeah.
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Also out there there I would say China is not maybe as orderly in terms of like following lines and cues as Japan and Korea are.
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Like give an example.
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So like they. I even would see some tiktoks that go just a heads up. Some people will cut in line like for situation.
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Oh that would do.
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That would fudge it really never like was that serious. But there was like when we Were in line taking, like, the gondola up to the Great Wall of China. There were these two ladies behind us, and they were just like. Like, push and push. And right behind us, looking for any moment for Patricia and I, like, just to maybe, like, be sideways for them to cut in front of us. But, I mean, these are very tiny things, and I did some research on it, and it's because it's such a big, big country, it's kind of survival of the fittest out there in terms of getting what you want. And this is a little bit of a generational thing of wherever these people come from.
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Yeah.
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Who just have that habit. Okay. So there is kind of a surge in general warning on them.
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But smoking is harmful to health. Quitting smoking can reduce. There we go.
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But it's not pictures of, like. Like, your neck opened up like, they have.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Dead babies or anything like that.
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You know, we don't have that either, though. It's more like the European countries, right? European, yeah. Yeah. The. How were the airports in China? But are people. Because, I mean, if you're gonna skip anywhere, I think China, the airports would have been like.
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No, the airports are pretty well, like, okay, in order.
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That would be a disaster.
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Get you on their flight. Like, everything went so smoothly at the airports. I did not have any, like, experiences there with people cutting lines and the cutting of line things. Very, very small. And another thing. And I promise I'll get done with the weird stuff first, I want to tell you all the great things. And just because, like, was there any, like, cons. Oh, because of the smoking stuff. Some people just, like, spit on the ground. Like, okay. Like, you'd be, like, walking and like a dude. It's, like, right on the ground. You're like, whoa.
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Inside or outside?
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No. Oh, inside, yes. Sometimes. But it's not like it happens all the time. But it's definitely something, like, in America. Like, in American culture, if you saw someone spit on the ground, like, indoors in a mall.
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Oh, you'd be like, indoors, yeah.
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Indoors, yeah. Outdoors, sure. But you would see it kind of often. And I'm not saying, like, everyone's doing it. It's not like the whole ground's covered in spit.
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I think you're seeing more people spit on the grounds because everyone's smoking cigarettes. Everybody here was smoking cigarettes. People would be spitting on the ground.
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Oh, correct. It's because of the cigarette smokers. That's when they're spilling the ground.
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Oh. And you know, their. Oh, the filters probably, like, real low, where they're getting, like, heavy hits in their cigarettes. They don't have that light shit. Yeah. Especially since they're so used to smoking. You know, they're. They're taller. They're tolerant to, like, the really, really heavy cigarettes. Their reds. There are reds are their lights.
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Yeah.
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Yes, yes. Now, do you remember how, like, Japan, a lot of, like, the people we interacted with, the customer service there is very, like, gracious, Very, like. Oh, like, they're very, like, orderly. Like, they're piling down, walking through. They're bowing. Yeah, they're. They're. They're very polite as well, but they're also, like, very serious. But they're also, like, really funny. Like Chinese people, especially dealing with foreigners, if you show them, like, your funny side, they're. They like, like to vibe with it. And I'm saying this from my own experience. Like, we went to this place called the AP Plaza, which is basically where they got a lot of, like, the fakes and stuff. And you have to, like, how you get to, like, haggle, haggle with them and bargain with them. And I mean, dude, it was, like, crazy. We were walking through this place, and everyone's like, lady, lady, lady, here, get this scarf man. Man, don't you want some AirPods? Blah, blah, blah. Everyone's just, like, in your face and stuff. And Patricia and I, you know, we had some friends and family who wanted, you know, to check out some bags and stuff. And we were like, sure. But they didn't know that this little white foreigner boy knows a bit of Mandarin. So I'm like, going in. I'm like. And they're like. And I'm like. And then they were like, you know, they would get. Pull out their calculator, and you would. After you asked how much something was, they would give you the price and, like, the prices of what they're trying to sell you something that they probably. They want to try to sell it to you for, like, 500 bucks. But really what you're trying to buy is worth at least 75. A hundred dollars. Oh, wow.
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Oh, they're. They're going up that much?
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Yes, they go up that much. And then you go loud bomby EDM bomb.
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How do you say. I'm not. Just because. Just because.
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I'm just saying, like, Lao Bond is boss. Like, P, I need edm. Ma or ba. I can't remember, but it's like. I think it's ma. Can you make it a little cheaper? Like, come on, work with me.
C
Yeah.
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And then visiting, and then they're like, okay, okay, you want me to make it a little cheaper? All right.
C
Because they probably get so many tourists
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so many times and a lot of people were probably really mean to them too, like, who are very like kind of firm with them going, no, it has to be this. Yeah, but I'm being like really silly and goofy with them and like very over dramatic. I'm like, ty guela. Ty guela. Like, which is like too expensive. Just shaking my head like crazy.
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What's the word we were saying?
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Which is like, that's great means expensive. So tygola is like, that's expensive. You just got to shake your head.
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Most of them did not know English, right?
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No, they do, they do, they do English. But I think if you like know a bit of Mandarin, they're. They're really wanting to work with you. Yeah, exactly. So, Patricia, we are just having a ball with these ladies who are trying to us to get us to pay a whole bunch and obviously even watching some tick tocks on like other phrases to say. And one was like, la bonds about which is like, give me a face, which means like, make me look pretty.
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Okay.
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When you say that line, they're like, okay, okay, okay, okay. And they give you a price. And then at that point you look at it and you go, no, I want it lower. And they're like, no, no, no, no. And you go, bye bye, bye, bye, bye bye. You walk out and then they'll chase you down. And they go, fine, fine, fine, I'll sell it to you.
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Because they're definitely not getting anybody that lives there because they know not to buy that. They know they're probably gonna over.
B
I was wondering that the whole time. I was also like, do foreigners ever like get a local to come with them to like help bargain them? But that was like, no way. Because they would probably all know this, like bargainers.
C
Because if somebody from China was coming here and they wanted to buy a car, they're most likely going to go to Heath and be like, I really need you to help me buy a car without having to pay all this money, extra money.
B
It'd be a good gig for a middle man. But that was just such a fun rush. We had a really good time, like just haggling with people down there. So that was fun.
C
What was your favorite thing to eat there?
B
Favorite thing to eat there? I mean, the dumplings, the soup dumplings are just fantastic. Xiao Long bao, which is like, you know, they sell them at Den Tai Fung. Yeah, like those are fantastic. Heath. I remember you asking, like, I'm dying to know how the cuisine is compared to, like, American Chinese food?
A
Yes.
B
It's pretty different. It's not like what you.
C
It's, like, very authentic.
B
Same way you experience when you, like, go to Italy expecting, like, true American Italian food. Because, like, also Chinese Italian food or Chinese American food was made, like, in the 50s and 60s to appease, like, American palates and stuff. So it uses a lot of ingredients that we're really familiar with that they don't necessarily have out there. And we had a great time eating all the food. I mean, we did hot pot, we had a lot of dumplings. We had a lot of really great steak and stuff. But I wish I truly had a local friend who knew the cuisine like the back of their hands, because I would have been more willing to open and try dishes that I didn't have.
C
Did you check your DMs or could been somebody out there that, like, lived there? Because normally when we go out of the country, we post, there's usually could be like, two people that are like, oh, my God, let me know if you want me to show you around.
B
And I should have. Zayn. I didn't. I didn't.
C
Oh, you could have done a whole story talking in Mandarin, like, hey, I'm here in China. I know if anybody's out here, that would have mean. That would have gotten.
B
We loved it so much. We're so down to go back.
C
So is that snake?
B
I believe that's. Yeah, snake. It could be eel. There was. It was crazy, though. We were. When we were in that river town, there was one sand that had, like, you know, scorpions, beetles, centipedes.
C
Did you try it?
B
No.
C
Oh, you should have. That have been a good video.
B
I did not. I know I should have, but, like, there's part of me where I'm like, I. So that was a big question. I also had to. My friend out there who I met up with, who was a local. The thing is, these are. But this is not, like, not. I don't want to put out that this is what everyone eats out in China.
C
No, I'm just saying, if I walked up to this, this is a novel.
B
This is still a good novel experience for people to do it. It is part of, like, a crazy wow factor. Like, oh, whoa, you ate a bug. It's not like.
C
And you know what? I think it's the shape, right? If that was all chopped into pieces and thrown on rice and they're like, this is scorpion. I think I'd be Like, oh, yeah. You know what? I'll try it.
A
Like a sausage. Like, scorpion sausage. Put it in a patty.
C
Yeah, it's the whole scorpion, like, with a stick. Like, there's just something about seeing the whole thing. I think it's like, imagine getting a chicken.
B
So, yeah, I debated on, like, buying it and posting about it, but then it was just like, I don't want people to think that this is, like, Chinese food is.
C
Yeah, we're all aware. Yeah.
B
Yeah. So anyways, that was pretty interesting. We also got our ears cleaned. We went to a place. There was, like, a whole stall where they were cleaning your ears. And Patricia's always been telling me, you need to get your ears clean. You can't understand a word I'm saying. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
C
And it was finally time.
B
Well, so finally. And I sat down.
A
And yours were cleaner.
B
Cleaner than Patricia.
C
No way.
B
Patricia's weren't, like, disgusting. But I'll say, this Patricia, she's pretty big. Are you big into cleaning your ears with the cotton swab?
C
Okay, so I don't go inside my ear because I heard you're not supposed to do that. I actually only clean the outer part, so that's good. Yeah.
B
I don't get in your nose and granny. Okay.
C
Yeah. Yeah.
B
Well, Patricia is. She's a big, you know, ritual. Yeah, she had a pretty kind of, like, decent chunk.
A
I think it's because it pushes it down in. If you, like. If you do that, you're just, like, packing it down.
B
Down.
C
Yeah, you're supposed to literally, like, go, like, put, like, make a ring around, like that, and then pull it out, like, try to, like, you know, Zane does it.
A
It's like Shrek where he pulls out.
B
It's a full candle. Light it up.
C
Yeah, no, I definitely. I. I need to do it again. Last time I did, it was, like, five years ago.
B
It is freaky, though, when, like, they're in your ear and you can, like, see your eardrum, like, deep into your canal. And they're so close, but, like, they're not gonna puncture it. They're so good at what they're doing. But you're just like, you. You feel just like. I don. Vulnerable.
C
And it does. There is something very vault, like, like, them in your ear like that. And you feel like your ear is drowning. And you're like, whoa, this does not.
B
And, like, it was weird when they were in my ear. I would only tear up and, like, cry out of this eye, like, not out of, like, pain, but it was just some like, reaction out of my body. And when they were on this ear, I would start tearing in this eye. I would always have to, like, sneeze or cough or whatever.
C
Did you feel cleared out, though, after? Yeah.
B
And then. But we were a little, like, it felt so, like, raw and clean that we were worried we were like, going to get like, freaking ear infection after just because our ears were just.
C
Yeah.
B
Wiped of all of its, like, natural lubrication that.
C
It's also just, like, very raw, too. Like, you know, it's like squeaky cleaning now. You're just like, it just. You feel every, like, sound wave. I feel like hitting your eardrum.
B
Patricia was mortified, like, of what she had compared to me. And I'm like, don't you ever tell me, baby. You never listen to me. Too dirty. Like, I mean.
C
Oh, is that that thing they're wearing on their head? It's like a micro. Like a.
B
We didn't do. These are like people on the streets kind of doing it. We were in one where, like, had an actual camera. It looked like we were getting like a colonoscopy almost.
C
Could you.
A
Could you see her camera when she was getting it done?
B
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
A
That's so funny.
C
That's really good.
B
Oh, dude, the cars out there. Oh, that's what I want.
A
Was it minivan culture, like Japan, like the crazy minivans?
B
Yes, yes. It was definitely like a whole bunch of brands of cars that we don't get in the US because they can't sell Chinese cars in America. I mean, and you would see like, like Mercedes. You would see Volkswagens and stuff. But, dude, there was one car that I love that was like, basically kind of like our Uber xl, like taxis that would drive us around these. These kind of Chinese minivans.
C
Oh, okay. Matt, you were getting the black, like
B
the ones where you can, like, truly scoot the seat all the way back and you have so much space, like, in the back area. But this one car, Heath that I, like, loved. It's called the I car. Like, almost like iPod.
A
Okay.
B
B23.
A
Zane, you don't understand, like, the prices for, like, high end luxury cars. There's there, like, what you would think would be $150,000 car here is 30 grand there.
B
Guess how much this one. So this one, the I car V23. And for our listeners, it's like almost like a G wagon, bronco, Suzuki jimny kind of thing. Just a beast of a badass kind of fun sport utility car.
C
I want it.
B
This car costs $16,000 it's crazy out there.
A
Yeah.
C
Is it. Wait, is it. Is it as big as a G wagon?
B
I think a close.
C
It's not like the Jeep Renegade, right? That one that.
B
That one was standing next to, it's more petite, maybe, than a G Wagon, but it's still, like, badass fun, and looks really cool to zip around in.
C
I would 100% buy that orange one. That's sick.
B
I know, right? It's so frustrating. The tech inside the cars was just very impressive as well. Anytime we were getting in cars, it just felt like the interiors of what they were working with were just a little bit more advanced. Hell, but, you know, Kia souls these days probably still have amazing screens and stuff.
C
You're not allowed to buy a. Like that and bring it here, right?
B
I don't think so, but they are opening up that huge thing where Japanese cars are about to be a lot more friendlier to buy out here, especially in terms of, like, labor trucks.
C
Wait, wait, what do you mean?
B
I wish I had more information on this, but, Keith, you know, you.
A
There's certain cars that you can't get in the United States, and if you were to import them, there's an import ban. So it's got to be over. I think it's like, 20 years old or 25 years old, something like that.
B
Oh.
A
In order for you to import it to the United States and then you got to, like, like, pay to ship it. All sorts of, like, paperwork and everything.
C
There's a 100% tariff, which basically means
B
you're paying for the car twice.
C
Right.
B
But some of the cars, like, $3,000.
C
Exactly. I'd pay. I mean, that orange. That orange little Bronco.
B
Yes. Why not?
C
Why not?
B
It felt very, very safe, too. Like you never had, like, a bad vibe or someone was going to pickpocket you or you felt sketched out truly, like getting scammed by people. Occasionally someone would, like, come up and try to hustle us maybe to go into, like, a room to. To buy some art and stuff, which is like a total scam they have out there. But, like, besides that, because it's really well monitored, I guess, in terms of security cameras there. My friend who lives out in China, he told me that he lost his wallet one day, went to the police station, and they were like, okay, where were you when you feel like you lost your wallet? We're able to, like, identify him on the street cameras, and they found out they found his wallet within, like, 15 minutes, bro.
C
They would never do that out here.
B
I know, bro.
C
They Would literally, like, not even, like, if. If you came in and you lost your wallet, they'd be like, good luck. We don't do that.
B
They have a whole system for it of. For identifying it. So you really can't get away with, like, a lot of crimes, especially, I think, in the bigger cities of where we are at because of how the surveillance is out there.
C
Yeah.
B
I have not. It did. My friend never told me horror stories where he felt like it was to the point of an invasion of privacy out there.
C
Yeah.
B
But it can solve solutions like that all the time.
C
That's nice.
B
Wherever you're going, so.
C
Oh, that cop looks sick. Go. Go to the bottom left. Oh, yeah, yeah, Her.
A
Did you see a lot of cops out there? Was there, like, police?
B
Yes, I. There were, like, a handful of police officers, but I never knew, like, I felt like there were, like, different rankings of different types of officers. Like, they all weren't wearing, like, the same type of uniform, so sure they were out there.
C
And like ours, it's like a highway patrol. You got, like, the regular police, then you got, like, the. Yeah, like, they're in different uniforms.
B
My friend in Beijing told me, like, they also don't really have guns, that they don't even have tasers. Oh.
C
On them. None of them have it on them.
B
It's also against the law to even, like, getting fights, too. And if you start the fight, you get in even more trouble, too. So, like, fights aren't really, like, happening.
C
Oh, I feel like. I feel like it's like that here, too. Unless. Unless you don't press charges. Right? Unless.
B
Sure. But, like, I mean, if you get in a fight, like, in a bar, they just, like, kick you out. Like, it's not like you're going to jail because you got into a fight. It depends on the level of where you're in a fight, I guess.
C
If someone starts to fight at a bar in China, it doesn't even matter if they're both like, okay. They'll just, like, police are, like, already
B
involved, I guess so. I wish I could, like, truly confirm that for you, but, yeah.
C
Interesting.
B
That was pretty crazy.
C
Wait, is this. Is this. Oh, this is just probably, like, I never saw these.
B
This is just an image of, like, AI robots and stuff. I didn't see anything like that.
C
This is a great picture, dude.
B
They look great.
A
It looks legit.
C
Yeah, it looks sick. It looks like a movie.
B
One thing I learned recently, though, they're so. Their population growth is a little bit, like, on the decline right now, and they're trying to get more people to, like, have kids.
C
Oh, don't. Well, don't they have, like, a rule with how many people are.
B
They used to be. That's like, almost like decades ago from when we were kids.
C
I know my history.
B
The one child policy, which also I feel like wasn't even really like a law. It was just this thing they were trying to, like, get everyone on the same page about, but it also depended on, like, how much money you were making and not having that many kids. But my friend told me. Oh, yeah. So one child policy was in 1980 and ended in 2015. So honestly, not that long ago.
C
Yeah. That it stopped.
B
But my friend told me this. He said that condoms, right now, they're like taxing condoms because to make condoms more expensive, they want people to be having their kids. Wow. Which I thought was like, kind of.
A
You can't do that. You can't put a ban like that for. What was it you said?
C
They're making condoms more expensive, but they want people to have kids because that's
B
going to make someone like, well, I'm not going to buy the condom that it's going to. Maybe. Oh, by making it more expensive. Maybe, in a way. Well, I don't know.
C
Yeah. I don't think people look at it like that.
B
I think they're just trying to tinker with it to see if that maybe will cause a little bit more up in the gross.
C
Sometimes I feel like I get it, but sometimes I feel like the government thinks that we're stupid. Like, when they think, like, shit like that is going to work, like, no, that just sounds like a public health crisis.
A
Yeah.
C
Honestly, that's. It's more dangerous. Yeah. With that than anything. All right, brief pause for this episode. Sponsor Stash. If you're like me, one of the main reasons you've put off investing is the lingering feeling of uncertainty. The market's up, it's down. I'm Googling something about bulls and bears. Who knows? Too complicated. But that's where Stash comes into play. Play Stash is an investing app that feels like having a financial advisor in your pocket. They've created this thing called Market Mood, which basically turns all the chaos of the stock market into a single mood. Is designed to help you understand how the news is impacting the stock market and make it easier to understand what's going on. If you start investing now. Market Mood, powered by Stash's AI money coach, scans 700 plus financial articles and data points daily to deliver one simple read on the market like uneasy or confident. It breaks things down in plain English in under two minutes, which is great for me. So you're not guessing whether it's a good time to invest. Think of it like a quick weather check for the market. Whether you're new or already investing, it gives you a clear daily insight into what's happening and what to consider next. Honestly, this is a great app for someone like me. Check today's market mood for yourself at stash.com/mood. That stash.com/mood. It's free. It takes just two minutes and you'll actually know what the market is doing today. Stop guessing and start knowing. Head over to stash.com mood paid non client endorsement. Not a guarantee nor representative of all clients. Investment advisory services offered by Stash Investments, LLC and SEC Registered investment advisor. Investing involves risk. Thank you, Stash, for sponsoring this podcast. We love you.
B
Oh, I bought a Gundam. You know, I'm like, no, you remember Gundam models. Like, you can go into, like, hobby shops, Pokemon stores. They're those little, like, model.
C
Oh, yeah, Matt, you got one.
B
Because I remember as a kid back in the Pokemon card days, I would go to these hobby shops and I would beg my dad to, like, buy one of these. And my dad would be like, matt, you don't understand. These are for, like, big kids, adults. Because it's a bunch of tiny little plastic pieces that you have to, like, have these special pliers for. And it can take you days, weeks, depending on how much time you devote onto it to finish it out. But I just. I was in the store. Oh, I haven't started, but I can't wait. It's just gonna be like this new little.
C
It's gonna be a part of your Christmas village. He's just on top of the city
B
protecting something for me to, like, have my Christmas village fixed. Get off my phone when I'm not knitting. All right. Just to get my mind.
C
You should make. You should make him a little sweater.
A
Okay,
B
so I'm fired up about that. Also, I learned about this in Beijing. These things called Win Juan nuts. So it's these walnuts.
C
Oh, yeah. They're literally walnuts.
B
But. But it's this huge, like, trend right now. Or the Win Juan W e n. These are w a n realistic. Oh, yeah. They're these walnuts and they're in a way, like a fidget.
C
This looks. This. This feels like 3D printed. Like, it doesn't feel like it.
B
Actually. You roll these around in your hand like this, just rubbing them together all Right, Man. And over the course of maybe a year, three, four years, they can turn into, like, a jade, like, quality. No, like, they get a little patina on them and they start shining and glistening. Like the dark ones on the. Yeah, the really dark ones. That's what they turn into. Oh, come on. And there was, in this market, there were people, like, selling these. There were people in these massive tents looking at each one because they want to have this new fidget for, like, the rest of the next few years. Years. And are just trying to get one that fits good in their hand. And this one lady, I looked at the size of my hand, she gave me them, and I'm like. So I just spin these around.
C
I mean, is this, it's more of a fidget spinner. It's not like, for good luck or, like, anything like that.
B
It almost has this acupuncture Zen, like, quality, too. It's good for dexterity. It's just something that's, like, keeps your hands busy.
A
Fights arthritis.
B
Yeah. So I've been, like, when I've been watching shows and stuff, but, like, once you get it going, I can't even turn it. That's how it was when I first got it.
A
Hands. Both hands?
B
Yeah, you can do both hands if you want to.
C
I, I, I can't even do it.
B
You got it. Come on. Bui. But I'm, it's my new little favorite thing to whittle on and work on. You got to brush them and stuff. So stay. So now that y' all can see the colors of them, hopefully by next year, my nuts gonna be looking. You break them.
C
Oh, I wanna, I wanna be able to play with your nuts sometimes.
B
Okay. We'll get ready. I'm gonna be working on these big time.
C
Cool. So, so that I can't wait for it to. I mean, that's what they say it's going to look like, like the, the j, like right there on the right.
B
Yeah, that's what they turn into. And they can be worth, like, thousands of dollars. If you get it to, like.
C
All right, maybe give it to your kids. Your kids can inherit it. Yeah.
B
An heirloom. Yeah.
C
It just goes up in, in value.
B
That was China.
C
Any.
B
I don't know, Any other questions you have?
C
No, I think that's it. It sounds like you had a lot of fun. I love the, I loved all the content and the great walls.
B
Dope. The great wa. Well, such a sight to see. It was pretty cool. They take you on a little gondola. You go up and the gondola wait time was like an hour, which wasn't that bad. We got there like pretty early and we just walked like up and down like the Great Wall. Just a little section of it.
C
Did it feel insanely big being there? Like, looking it from one end to the other?
B
Cuz obviously, and just knowing that this keeps going and going and going. This scale of it was pretty crazy. Oh, I did not go into the Forbidden City, though. Forbidden City. And why am I. Tymanian Square.
C
Tianan.
B
Tianan Square. God.
C
Oh, that's where that picture that I
B
didn't go to and the Forbidden City, which is really stupid of me because I didn't realize that you needed to get tickets, like way in advance, like a month in advance. And I thought. And I also one friend who told me that you can just walk into the square. That wasn't true. You needed to have a ticket for that, like Patricia. And we showed up and thought we could like do both. And I saw one TikTok that said, oh, if you're a foreigner, you can actually get in this line and they'll give you a ticket. Ticket. That wasn't like, true.
C
Why would your friend tell you that?
B
I don't know. It was. Because I think it maybe was a bit different. Like when he went a little bit before COVID or maybe a couple years ago.
C
It was before COVID Okay.
B
And I don't know, it was just the flux of traffic that day. I know, I know.
C
Maybe next time. I feel like you'll.
B
You'll be back there next time for sure. But that was like my one bus as a tourist was kind of not doing that.
C
Yeah, but you. But you really took advantage of every day. Like you went out.
B
Yes.
C
Good, good.
B
Loved it. Truly loved it. Cannot wait. I. My biggest regret was not doing another city. I felt like four days in Shanghai and four days in Beijing was like maybe too many days in those cities. I wish I squeezed another city in between those days.
C
Yeah. Part of me feel like when we went to Japan, I. I wish I wanted to go. Yeah. I wish that we got to go to more of like the remote type of areas in Japan or like go to the mountain. Like, I don't know. I like, I feel like you need to experience both like city life and also like, like. Would you say rural? No, it's more like a. Yeah, yeah. More like city life and rural life in every place that you go. You know what I mean? So.
A
Because that's like being like, oh, I went to the United States and you Only went to New York.
B
Yeah.
C
It's like you gotta. You gotta really hit, like the. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Like that.
C
Like, I wanna. I want to be able to see, like, nature at the same time along with, like a city. Chaotic life.
A
So beautiful.
B
It was cool. Taking the. The bullet train from Shanghai to Beijing.
C
Oh, the bullet train.
B
That was like four and a half hours, basically, that. I wish I could tell you the exact miles per hour. I mean, probably like 160 miles per hour.
C
Okay.
B
That is like basically going from New York to Chicago in four and a half hours. Rapid transit in the United States. Go from New York to Chicago on a train that's gonna be about 20 hours.
C
Wait.
B
Yeah.
C
That's insane.
B
Dude.
C
Did it feel like you're going super fast on the train or like. Because the way they build it, like,
B
we were going really, really fast when another train would pass us going the other direction. Yeah, but it was. I mean, yeah, you're going by fast, but you're seeing just so much of, like, rural China. It was really cool.
A
Does it take turns going fast or is it like a straight line? Fast and then it slows down if you gotta, like, kind of like straight shoot.
B
Most of the time. I feel like we slow down one time to stop at one station. Maybe it was like bending in certain areas that I wasn't noticing.
C
But what was the vibe on the plane like? Did they have like. Like good little, like, food carts? Did they have, like a place order cough?
B
Yeah, yeah, there was a QR code. Code you could scan and you could, like, order food and stuff. But they gave us already a little snack box.
C
Have you ever rode the Bright Line or do you know what the Bright line looks like?
B
The one that you guys have in Florida?
C
Yeah. Does it kind of. Is it like, very wide? Because the Bright line is very wide. Like, I feel like it's like, very spacious.
B
I feel like this is very similar to the ones we were on in Japan.
C
Oh, okay.
B
So it makes me pissed that we don't have. Yeah.
A
Damn.
C
Like looking it from outside of a window. That's fucking fast Class.
B
Zoom in.
C
Yeah, I think. I think I would kind of freak out. Oh, those chairs are nice.
B
We did. That was business class. We did first class, which.
C
Okay, Matt, treat yourself. You deserve it.
B
Well, because, like, business class was like, a little stupid expensive. I'm like, for a train.
C
Oh. So you might as well just.
B
That was like a full, like, plane, like, flight. Like, I'm not gonna spend like 500 each for Patricia and I for like, four and a half hours, like on a trip.
C
Business was more than first.
B
Yes.
C
Oh. Oh.
B
Normally business was like.
C
Normally first is more than business. Yeah, that's what I got confused.
B
But it was so cool.
C
Well, I'm glad you had.
B
Cool.
C
A lot of fun. Nice.
A
Yeah.
B
That was China.
C
That was great. I feel like I don't even need to go to China.
B
You should go. You should go.
C
I will, I will. How's Tony? I know we ask every week, but, you know, he does grow a lot.
B
Oh, my gosh, the videos. I feel like he's growing before mine.
C
I know, I know. Even since last time I saw him, like, like, him like, making all that noise. I'm like, oh, my God. He was not doing all that when I was there.
A
Yeah, it's crazy. He's like, like, I don't know. He's getting like a full personality now. It's so weird. What'd we do today with him? Oh, we took him out to this little bagel joint nearby.
C
All right. Does he like eating bagels now? He's growing quick?
A
No, but I really want to start, like, testing some food with him. Like, I know he's not supposed to yet, but I'm like, I don't know. He seems. Seems ready to me.
C
Yeah.
A
I just want to, like, give him some little treats because I just, like, I get so excited because I'll be eating something. I'm like, dude, dude, you're gonna love this. You're gonna go crazy over macaroni.
C
You just gotta, like, chew it up a little bit and then just kind of.
B
Yeah, just be like a bird.
C
Yeah, like a bird. Bird feed.
B
When do babies get teeth?
A
6, 8 months. But apparently some babies are born with teeth. I saw this lady, she was like, she just had her baby.
C
Yeah.
A
And she was talking about, like, getting ready to, like, breastfeed or whatever. And she was like, I can't even breastfeed now because my baby has full blown teeth. And I was. Was like, at.
C
At three months.
B
Sometimes, like, babies are born with.
A
Born with.
B
Born. Yeah.
C
Oh, my God.
B
Lose those teeth to then get their baby. Yeah, it's like pre.
C
You know, and it's crazy that some people just, like, don't lose that baby teeth.
A
My mom, she had a baby mom her whole life.
B
Crazy. I really.
C
Yeah. Like, what is the. Like, what is the science behind, like, what happens?
B
Like, there's all different types of bones that are so.
A
Yeah. An adult tooth above it. So she just had that baby tooth her whole life. She just recently got it pulled just because it was old, but just the
C
sperm and egg cooking up and they're just like, oh, forgot a tooth. It's just. It's so insane to me.
B
Have you ever seen. I feel like we've shown it before. Like. But a baby's skull.
C
Yes. Oh, my God.
B
It's insane.
C
It's like a shark. Yeah.
B
Hypodontia. Missing one to five teeth or congenitally.
C
Oh, okay. Your mom had hypodontia. He.
A
I should tell her.
C
It's a pretty name.
B
It really is. He's doing good. We went.
A
We went and got bagels. We took him to this little park, did a little photo shoot.
C
Ok. I know. I'm loving all the photos. You guys are good with that.
A
Yeah, we got some cute pics of him today. I don't know.
C
I just wish you guys did it to yourselves.
A
I'm like, I'm getting pissed, though, because his outfits are so good. I'm like, Mariah needs to just start dressing me.
C
Yeah.
A
He looks so cool. And I'm just like, damn.
C
But you know, you know, I could see Mariah just constantly going shopping for. And just so excited. She's not even shopping for herself anymore. Just like, I just want to dress.
B
Grow out of that outfits so fast. I know, I know. We're always like, buying our niece and nephew outfits, and I'm like, I want all of these back once I have kids.
C
I was gonna heath. I was gonna send you and Mariah this, but, like, I don't know. Sometimes I feel like I send you baby stuff. And I'm like, they most likely have seen this. They're probably so their friends. Oh, you. Oh, no, no. I was gonna send you. So there is this hack that they do where. Because a babies grow so quick, you know the. You know the.
A
Oh, where you cut the onesie.
C
Cut the onesie. And then you flip it. It's like this tape thing and it. It, like, it just becomes a shirt. I was like, oh, I'm gonna send some Ryan. But I was like, is she gonna see it? I don't even know if she'll see it. So I.
B
Okay. He looking like Fred Flintstone with Come on now.
A
Them pants are.
C
Wait, fire. Wait, those pants are.
B
I love it.
C
But I know. But I know if I was wearing that, y' all give me. You never let me have it.
B
You could be wearing this in two weeks. Like, are you kidding me?
C
But you. But like, that is. Is literally my coach elephant. Like, that. Like, to me, that is like, what exactly what I would want to wear.
A
Jared, open the other one I sent.
C
I never thought I'd be jealous of a baby of an outfit. Look at that.
B
Oh, the green socks.
C
Oh, oh, that. He's. Be careful with that hat. You don't want him to start losing that hair early. Be careful.
B
Let that hair grow.
C
They get it. They get it from the mom, so
B
he's taken care of.
C
Oh, he's got that. I don't know, man, because. Because I, I think I got my dad's hair loss. I don't think I have my mom's. No, no, no. What is your mom's? Dad's. What is your grandpa on your mom's. He has a full head of hair, so I don't, I don't. I have a hard time believing.
B
You might want to get that 23 in me checked.
C
Okay. Oh, so this is like a very, like it's 100. Like it comes from the mom's side.
B
A pair. Allegedly.
C
Allegedly. All right, all right.
A
But yeah, it was a good, good day. Got back, did some stuff around the house. Trying to get fully organized down here in the basement. Got a lot of stuff to do still.
C
When's that? Like, when's the last time you guys went out to dinner?
B
I thought recently, like, two days because I feel like.
C
Oh, you. Oh, you do. Okay. You still do.
A
Well, like, like this morning we went to the bagel shop with him and like ate it there. So like, technically, like, we went out to eat.
C
Did he go? Did he go out to. Have you done a late dinner since Craig's?
A
Not to that level. Like, we've gone places, but nothing like, like a nice sit down restaurant like that. Just like normal, normal.
C
Y' all need to practice so you can do it more in the, in the, in the future.
B
I know.
A
Well, Jared, Jared's coming in like a week, so. Jared, we'll take you out somewhere nice. We'll go get a little dinner together.
C
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta have him practice to stay up at night. That's what my dad did with me and I'm really glad he did.
B
He.
A
I just told Zayn. So, yes, two nights ago, he slept completely through the night for the first time ever.
B
Whoa. Crazy.
A
Went to bed at like 10:30, 11, and woke up at 6:30 in the morning, morning. And we're like.
B
It was like, give me five more crazy.
A
And then I was like, we need to repeat exactly what we did this week.
C
Did you.
A
He did it again last night.
C
Oh, wow, guys. Oh, you guys are probably so thrilled. You just, you get to have the night now?
B
Yeah.
C
Oh, that's amazing. Okay. Are you gonna just start feeding him the same thing every single day, same routine, just to see if it works. But you should. You should change it for one day and see if it ruins the. Ruins the. Yeah, because you need to see. Or maybe. Maybe he's at an age where he's just sleeping throughout the night. You gotta see before we continue.
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Can he sit in a high chair?
A
So we have him in his. So, like, when we eat dinner, like, we'll sit at the table and we have a highchair, but we put like. Like a little blanket kind of rolled up to fill the side gaps. Because he's not like, super big in it. Yeah, he can sit it up, but not like. Like a big. I guess would. So we kind of like, cushion it to, like, keep him from wiggling out, like, lean.
B
That makes it. Yeah, I've always seen people who do the, like, the frozen bag of peat, or you get some peas, and you put it, like, in a Ziploc bag with some water, and then you tape that on top of, like, the high chair, like, tray, and they just, like, play with that.
C
Okay.
B
For hours. This mom is just like, this has been incredible.
C
This is something you saw on TikTok.
B
Just a mom, she just puts like a, some frozen peas and water and then tapes that onto the. Okay. And that baby just is like, this is the most entertaining thing that they have ever seen.
C
Who the hell came up with that?
B
And I'm like, so I want to do that. Hell, I, I, I want that at my table too. That would entertain me.
C
And that is funny.
B
So nine months. So when the, when Tony gets to nine months, please do this and report back.
C
Screen. Yeah, no, I do. Like it's a screen free sensory activity.
B
Yeah.
C
Because it does like, it feels like a screen screen. So it feels like you're looking at a screen and you're like touching it and the, the bubbles are moving. You should heath try that with him this week and report back. Okay. How much he likes it.
A
I'll give him a bag of peas.
C
That's that low budget.
B
I know, right? Because like parents always so much money on toys and stuff is sometimes the most little things that they just like. No, honestly, can't get enough of.
C
See how, see how long you can go without having him like look at a screen. Like. Yeah, it's, it's such a good, like just see how he does. Imagine him being a kid and you see that he's like so much. Not better, but like his, his like attention span is so much better than the other kids around that are constantly on their iPad. Like it'd be such a good experiment just to see. Okay, look, let's see.
B
Experiment on your child first. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
C
But this is a healthy experiment.
B
Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, it's the little.
C
Yeah, that's, dude, that's what Mariah would do. The cardboard section
A
feel different textures, you know?
C
Yeah, no, I love this.
B
Oh yeah. I saw like your dad one time like built this huge like sensory board thing that he has like on the wall in his kids room. It's just a bunch of weird different little, yeah, little doors you open up. There's a picture of mommy and daddy wrote some stuff and they just like, I'm for.
C
You should play with them. You know the hole in the box, friend.
A
What's in the box?
C
The hole in the box where they put the. They're handed and they feel it. It's like, what. Is it okay with him? Oh yeah, that's. You see, that's cute. Yeah, look how happy he is.
A
A bunch of.
C
No iPad, no SP, no. No TV, no Spongebob.
A
It's just, it's all you need. But other than that, it. You know, it's just. It's going. It's going. Good.
C
Good, man, good. Love that. And Mariah's doing good.
A
Yeah, she's killing.
C
I see, I see, I see she's dancing again. She posted a little dancing video. She's been more very excited.
B
That's what I hate about Instagram, when, like, you can be, like, looking at it. Just you open it up and like, no, I'm pissed.
A
Tick tock, too, Zayn. I. I was like, oh, you finally posted you falling on the ice skates. So I commented on it.
C
Dude. I saw you comment, dude. Literally yesterday I saw it. I was just like. And I literally said out loud to Danielle. I was like, why the fuck is Heath. I thought you got.
B
Instagram's doing that now.
A
And I was like, oh, good, he finally posted it.
B
Oh, I know. But then it makes it seem like you're, like, a creep. Like, you. You went to, like, someone's Instagram and you're like, went deep, Zane.
A
I thought you posted it yesterday. So I was like, ooh, I'm gonna be one of the first to comment. I sent it. And then I went to, like, scroll down. I was like, wait, what?
C
I said a month and a half ago.
B
I know.
C
That's crazy. You didn't see that.
B
Good thing. People are on the same page about that stuff because it makes me cringe, y'. All. You know what happened to me, though, the other day? I was like, what the fuck? I was in, like, China. I'm in my hotel room, and Lauren DIY likes, like, Lauren DIY like, liked your reply. And I'm like, what did your reply to Lauren? It just said, like, lauren, DIY heart your message. And I'm like, what did I send a Lauren diy?
A
It's like, hard emojis.
B
She's like, take it. She's. It's like a mirror selfie of her in, like, South Carolina. And she's, like, just wearing a nice dress, like, posing, like, just being, like, cute little Lauren. And I sent her the heart eyes emoji. Oh, like. And I'm like, what? And I guess I like. But, like, oh, yes, but react.
C
They have the emoji reaction to it, which is.
B
And I put it in my pocket, and I realized I'd been reacting to a bunch of people's stories, but I sent Lauren diy, like, hard eyes to her. Like, Lauren, I am so sorry I, like, reacted to this. It was a total brush style. She was like, oh, I just thought you, like, South Carolina.
A
That's really like.
B
No, I was just like, please don't think. Like it looked like I was like hitting on her.
C
Those reactions are so dangerous. Why the hell do they have that? Nobody asked for that. Why are we. Why is it where you can just tap something, Something accident and you just sense it and you can't unset like it.
B
Yeah, they have it. Like, it works well when you just want to react to like a friend's story. Yeah, that looks cool. I need to like work on my customization of those like heart eyes.
A
I really don't need Zane, remember when I was sending you tick tocks like five times a day? Like, and then I would unsend the message. Like, if you watch a tick tock twice, all of a sudden the bottom pops up. Send to Zane. And I'll go to swipe to the next video and it'll be like, sent to Zane. I'm like, yeah, I. What did.
C
I was like, why is he. Why does he keep unsending Tiktoks? He's sending me like, that's like kind of tea. It's like, what the fuck is he hiding? Crazy. You know, I. Heath, I mistakenly. One, one time on Instagram. I. I don't know what, what this, like new feature was. I don't think it's there anymore. But I like booked you through Instagram. Like it was like a book feature. I don't. Dude, I don't know. And I don't think it's there anymore, but I. And you're in my fucking DMs and it looks like you are like my doctor or something. Because it's just like, we have like, you have booked, Heath. Like you are now booked. Like that's. There's like a pink fucking notification on your DM and it will not go away.
B
Oh, weird.
C
It's so weird. And I'm like in my head, are
B
you so funny to his channel or something like that?
C
No, it's. It's funny because we're fudging friends, but I'm just so embarrassed that like, you saw a notification that I probably booked you, like booking you on the Instagram DMs, like this fudgeing weird creep shit. Like, I don't know.
B
And that's.
A
I. I never saw.
C
That's really funny though. So funny. I'll show you after. But it's so stupid. Just like things that nobody's asking for.
A
I'll get. I'll get back to you. I'll see if I have anything open. I. I'LL pencil you in. Don't worry.
C
Yeah. Did you guys see the Artemis? The rocket?
A
Yeah. I knew it.
C
How you know?
B
I was watching the airport. I watched it take off.
C
Yes. That's the first time I saw it. You reposted it?
B
Oh, I reposted the video that that one girl took from the plane.
C
Sick.
B
That was like, she got the best footage out of anybody. Even the people showing the damn broadcast. Hers was the best.
C
Can you imagine being on your flight and seeing that? That'd be so.
B
I'd be pissed if I was on the other side of that plane. Like, the pilot was probably. Like, if everyone on the right side of the plane look out your window. People on the left.
C
Left. Seat belts are on. Do not.
B
Do not get on.
C
I know we are hitting turbulence, but yeah. This video is so sick.
B
And they're playing that M83 song that like that song. When I hear it, it's just like anything's possible. Oh, it just brings me tears.
C
That's so cool. I mean, if I didn't know what the hell that was, I'd probably forget. But I'm sure the pilot did say something.
B
Now they're going to be gone for 10 days. Well, people are listening to this. Hell, they might already be back by now, but they are. Where are they right now? On the path they. Have they gotten to the dark side of the moon? Because that's when I feel like we're going to lose communication with them.
A
It's okay. I sent Jared before this a video showing the. The dark side of the moon from NASA.
B
Well, how do. How does it get light on the dark side of the moon? Well, because they have to render it.
C
The dark side is not actually dark. It's just dark to us because the moon is tidally locked in Earth's orbit,
B
so the same face of the moon faces us. Oh, you're so right. I'm so dumb. I truly thought the dark side of the moon never sees the light of day.
C
No, it's just dark to us.
B
Oh, gosh.
C
Why are we getting better footage of this?
B
They got to get the SD card.
C
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But they're.
B
But they're just going around the moon. They're not landing on the moon, right?
C
No.
B
I hate some people. Like, we're going to the moon. I mean, like, sure, we're getting pretty close to it, but we're not going to the moon.
C
Oh, that's.
B
Wow. The vibrations.
C
I want to see this in person. That looks insane.
B
I feel like if I Was an astronaut. I would lose like I so tame through all of training and everything. Yes, roger, over. Yes, Houston, we have liftoff. And then in the. I'd be like, I'd be going crazy up in that shuttle.
C
What is the what can you look up the. What is the percentage of returning to Earth in one piece, like for every.
B
Pretty high. Like. What do you mean of survival of astronauts? I don't feel like we've had some astronaut deaths since the Challenger.
C
You don't know that.
B
And that was like 2004.
C
97 to 97.6%.
B
So you're saying there's a chance.
C
Okay, so now put. Now. All right, so now commercial flight.
B
Okay. No, you have. Because it's for me that's okay. But Z, I think you can rationalize that it's probably riskier getting on a plane than it is getting on a rocket ship or. Yeah. What is.
C
I want to see statistics.
B
Actually that's a kind of a good question. I'm taking a step back. What's commercial?
C
It looks like 24 people have died.
B
Okay.
C
Okay. Can you go to now a commercial flight like a human going on a commercial flight to flight fly somewhere.
B
I'm curious what the ratio is though of survival rate of commercial flight flights.
A
Yeah, 99.9999999.
C
That's what it says on your end.
A
No, it's what I'm guessing. Think about all the people that fly.
B
95%.
C
Wait, so they said over 95%. What does that mean? 95.6%. Oh, so you're safe. You're safer going on a rocket. All right, get me on a rocket. When excluding entirely catastrophic accidents. Okay, well they both are catastrophic. When something when people die, you know, like what do they mean by that?
A
Wait, wait, wait. No, that says 95% of passengers involved in commercial plane crashes survive. Do do chance. Chance of like that's 5%. No, that's if you crash.
C
No, no, really, I don't think that makes sense. A plane crash. I feel like it's. It's less than 95.
B
Okay, then do chance of dying right there in 0000001. Yeah, you slim chance.
C
Okay, so. So it's definitely safer than a rocket.
B
Did you see the.
C
The Delta flight that took off and the engine exploded? Yeah, that was crazy. Dude. When I see airlines like that big like it just scares the out of me. It's like, oh come on. Why couldn't it be like a whip it. What's that airline that we were flying back from? Mykonosa or something. It's like an exclamation point. In the end it was like Pink. It was 100, like worse than spirit. Like that type of like every time I'm my boots are shivering before I get on a flight. Like if this shit goes down, it's not even going to make it on the news because this fucking airline, nobody knows about it.
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We love you. How is your mom?
C
My mom is good right now. She's on day two of her post op surgery. If you guys didn't know, I don't know if I even talked about this. I did talk about on the bonus but my mom, she had nose like rhinoplasty which is a nose job, a face facelift and necklift. Not it's like half facelift and then mostly neck lift surgery with doctor in Beverly Hills. His name is Dr. Gavami. He's amazing. He's been really good. The staff's been amazing. Before I get into it, my mom for the past, like, five years has always wanted this. And it's not. Has nothing to do with, like, what she thinks. Other people. This is like, she is just, like, she cannot stand looking at her, like, oh, no nose. She just wants to feel. She wants to feel the age that she wants to look like the age that she feels.
B
Yeah, absolutely.
C
Which is like, I get it. You know, she's always been like that. Very young, spirited, and she's brought it up a couple times, but, like, you know, it never went anywhere from there. Then she brings it up again this past year, and I was like, I. I. And you know what? I think she was about to take an appointment in Florida, somewhere in Florida. And I know she's had, like. She's had bad. Not bad calls, but, like, bad experiences with, like, certain things that she. She does. Like, she did her, like, eyebrow thing. Bad experience. And I was just like, okay, mom, look, if you're gonna, like, be doing this insane surgery, very invasive, you. I'm just gonna take you to somewhere in Beverly Hills. Like, obviously, they are going to be much better than some neighborhood one you're gonna find in Florida, right? I will not allow you to do that. Like, please, just.
B
I'll.
C
I'll book you an appointment with, like, the top, like, top few doctors, and we'll look at. We'll go to each appointment. Appointment. You feel it out. You pick who you like the best, where you're the most comfortable. And at this, after that, you still don't have to do it, but I'd rather you just, like, if you're going to do it, please do it here. So I booked her with two doctor offices, one of them being Gavami. And the day that she went in, she. I couldn't go in with her. I went with her to the other one. It was all right. But she went to him by herself, and she said she was treated like a Kardash. She was just like. They rolled out the red carpet. They were so sweet. They were so inviting. They made me feel like a superstar. And she was like, I really, really like them. And even if they're like. Even like, the way she. Like, I'm saying this in a good way, even if they're not the best, I would go with them because. Because with how amazing they were to me, I was like, okay, that's like. I mean, that's very important. And. But, like, anyways, mom, he is like, one of the best. So, like, if you feel comfortable there and you want to go through with it, I'll have a bigger conversation with him. And he, you know, he loved my mom. We, we got along really well and they decided to like, help us a lot with the price. So I'm making, I'm making, I'm making like a video for their office. We're filming the whole thing. They're filming it too. And my mom was like, super down to like have it all filmed too, which is crazy because I want to
A
see her on a billboard once it's
C
done because you just, just don't like,
B
she might be the new face.
C
A lot of, A lot of women do not want this like, type of filmed. I think there might be deals with offices where like they, they might get a little percentage off or whatever if the doctor is able to use it. But like, I feel like a lot of women, especially like celebrity, they, they are not gonna want.
B
Yeah, they shy away from it. They deny it, all of that.
C
And yeah, I mean, and I'm gonna be completely like transparent right now. It's because it is as super, super, super invasive surgery. And I, my, me and my, me and my mom were not prepared for the post op care without.
B
Because it's three different treatments.
C
We knew it's gonna be super invasive. We weren't, I think we just weren't prepared for how bad the recovery was going to be, especially those first three
B
in terms of pain. Bandages, like what my, like my mom feel uncomfortable, itchy.
C
Dr. Gravambi, if you're listening. So I'm sorry, I just feel like I, you know, it'.
B
Say, has your mom gone under many, sir? Well, yeah. You said she's had some procedures.
C
It's because. And I think the reason why. And here's the thing, like, if you, if I knew that you're gonna get something done, that and it's gonna make your life like you are gonna be so happy with the results. It's gonna make your life better. But you know what? It's gonna be a pretty brutal like, recovery. Yeah, I'm probably not gonna like hone in on that because it's probably gonna make you back out. So when my mom was recovering, she was just like pretty much, oh my God, if I knew it was gonna. She's been, it's been very emotional.
B
Yeah.
C
These past few days. But you know what? Before I get into that, I'm just gonna go to the day of the surgery. Right. We, we went to a pre op. They kind of had a Whole appointment of like everything that they were gonna do, blah, blah. They. I. They actually decided they were just gonna. I think they looked at as my. They like. I think they really are looking at my mom as. Oh, okay. I think we're just gonna like, like, kind of do the whole like the worst. Gonna complete. Yeah. Because like, you know, you can get some stuff done and then later on it's. You look youthful here, but, like, you don't look youthful here. It doesn't like, it doesn't match up. So I think it was kind of smart to just like, oh, do everything. And like, you know, the team was down to do it. It's not like it was like extra cost. I think it was just like, okay, we're gonna give your mom like the completed look, which was like, you know, to me, I'm like, oh, my God. This is like all my mom. Mom wants. She should be so happy. And so the day of the surgery comes. You know, she's prepared, she's made sure to eat good, work out, like, be as fit as possible for this. Because it's again, like a very.
B
Yeah, it's gonna take a big toll.
C
Insane surgery. And so she gets in.
B
We're.
C
They're lining her up again. I'm filming all this lining her up and everything. And then as soon as she gets on the operating table, she starts to like, freak out and start crying and she is out and at. And I wasn't so too worried until that very moment. And the moment she started getting really, really, like, emotional. I think the doc. They're so used to it immediately they were like, oop, time to put like. They don't. They're not going to allow her to just sit there and just like.
B
Was like. Was she getting emotional out of like, anxiety of just going. Of like surrendering to this.
C
My mom. So it's not even the. The surgery. My mom's biggest fear is anesthesia.
B
Okay.
C
So, you know, like, there's a. You know, it's. Anytime you're under anesthesia, it's a rare, super small, small percentage that you don't wake back up. That's like. That was what my mom was fearing. And I kept reminding her, like, mom, look, it's super rare. I mean, so many people are under anesthesia for surgeries, blah, blah, blah. And I think it just like fully.
A
It just started hitting her at once
C
that like, oh, like, you know, she was like, telling me, like, I love you, blah, blah. I was just like. And then she went out and. And then I was fine. Until that. And I full panic for the next nine hours. The surgery was nine hours. So it was for the full thing, Right? Like, the full. Like, when she got on the table to the moment she was off and ready to go to aftercare. It was about nine hours for everything. Because it took her a little bit time to get up. Yeah. After they were done. Because, you know, she doesn't wake up as soon as they're done. After they're done, they got to wait around and wait for her to wake up pretty much. But I didn't. I was going to go in and film some stuff, too. Not, like, up the actual surge, but, like, kind of be in there and film. Just because I was like, me, Cal, Bella, we were all, like, working together and film. And Cal is in there, and I'm not seeing any of this. Right. Cal's in there. He gets the first shots, and he comes back out, and he's just like, hey, dude, I don't think you want to, like, go in there. And I was like, no, I, like, I'm really. I can handle that type of stuff. He's like. And then I know you can. Can, but knowing it's your mom, I really feel like you shouldn't, because that's your mom on the table. I just do not recommend it. And I was like. And I, I, I was like, you know what? I feel like Cal.
B
Yeah.
C
I feel like Cal knows who he's talking about as much as I think that, like, I could handle it. I was like, you know what? I'm gonna sit this out. And I told. And he went back in multiple times. Filmed, film, filmed everything. You know, she's done with the surgery after all that. I wake up, they're like, you want to see your mom? And I was. Was like, like, I was like, I don't know if I want to see her. I was like, is she okay? Like, yeah, she's good. She's just, you know, and obviously they're all so used to it. Like, you know.
A
Yeah.
C
So many women get this done. It's so normal. And it's, you know, obviously, she's good. But, like, I go in and see her, and she, like, you know, obviously very invasive surgery, and she's like, like, like, like just, like, hovering.
B
Like, she's, like, really shivering or, like, shivering, but she's not anesthesia.
C
You're, like, completely out of it. Yeah. And I, I, I took one look at hey, mom. And like, she couldn't really communicate with me. I was just like, okay here anymore. Like, I Like, just seeing her just done and all stitched up, I was like, even then, I felt like I was about to pass. I was like, oh, okay. Because if it was anybody else, I'd be fine. I was like, oh. Oh, cool.
B
Like, good thing you didn't go, because you would have been like, all right.
C
No, no, no, no, no. Yeah. I. I. When I saw her after, I was like, oh, okay. Cal was like, I would have passed out. And not because of the blood, but because it's my mom. Yeah. And. And, yeah, it was just, like, a really, really tough day. Really tough day. And. And it's crazy because my mom, like, she keeps repeating it now. She's just like, I can't believe people choose to do this. I'm like, I know you're going through so many emotions right now. It's so crazy. But, like, there's so many ladies out there that, like, get this work done with. Good dog. And, like, they look so good after. And, like, that's like, my mom just wants to, like, you know, look good. And. And I keep reminding her, like, hey, mom, like, I know it's. You look crazy right now. Oh. And it makes. Made a rule. No mirrors. I was like, yeah, every. Every. Like, a lot of those patients, the first thing you want to. They want to do is see themselves.
A
Yeah.
C
And.
B
And it takes. Even when you get the bandages off after plastic surgery, even though when it's, like, fully healed.
C
Yeah.
B
It's. You will look a little funny. I'll never forget when I was a kid and I had my ears pinned back.
C
Yeah.
B
And I remember the day they took the bandages off, and I remember, and they were like, look at it. I'm like, wow, it looks great. My mom, then we were driving home, and she went into the post office, and I remember, like, looking at myself in, like, the driver's seat, like, the rear view, like, mirror. And I remember, like, start cry because, well, when you get your ears done, you'll look like a fish because you're. It needs to fully heal. It needs to grow back in everything. Like, it needs to settle. And I was worried that's what I was stuck with.
C
Yeah.
B
So also, just know when you get those bandages off, even when it's healed, there's still growth and healing. That needs to happen. You look still funny. You're still swollen. And.
C
Yeah.
B
So.
C
And we were. And. And I made sure. I mean, dude, a month before I. We were. We were talking to each other every day over the phone. We're doing so much research on just every different type of healing process. Different. Different types of ladies getting it done, different ages. There's ladies, there's girls in their late twenties getting face already. Like, it's.
B
Yeah.
C
It's crazy. I was like, mom, there are.
B
Like, this happens all the time.
C
Happens all the time. But we're like, let's go through every single type of person getting this type of surgery done to see the best healing process and the worst. And what we saw on most of them is that even though worst. The worst day, like, the first three days of post, as scary as they look, the. The. When it's fully healed, it's.
A
It's better. Like you.
C
It's like. It's like magic. And I. And it was a constant reminder. I was like, temporary. I was like, it could look like. I mean, I showed an example. Like, mom, you could look this bad after, but look how good she looks after you. Really trust the process.
B
Yeah. Trust it. So she's going through that kind of still right now.
C
She's on day two. Today and tomorrow will be the worst with pain. She was telling me that it literally felt like a car.
B
Yeah.
C
Was just sitting on top of her. Like, she was just so specific about that. And she kept on repeating. I was like, she's like, honey, I deliver twins. And I would rather deliver twins multiple times.
B
Yes.
C
Than to be doing wrecked.
B
Because you're.
C
My mom.
B
Been wrecked.
C
And my mom has a really, really high pain tolerance.
A
Yeah.
C
She's a fire. Firefighter. Parent. She's. She is used to it. She's seen it all. And, like, seeing her in that state, I was like, holy. She. This is. That, you know, this is hurting for her.
A
Was she better today than yesterday when she delivered.
C
When she delivered my little brother and sister, the twins. She. After she delivered her blood, she felt weird. She felt like her blood pressure was going low. And again, she's a paramedic, so she's like, she. She knows, like, what happens in her own body. She felt her blood pressure going low, and she said something to the. To the. The doctor when she was in there, and they're like, no, it's fine. You're just blah, blah, blah. And she's like, no. Like, I. Like, I know what I'm feeling. And they're like, no, no. And then immediately she, like, she's baiting out, and all of a sudden she hears, like, they call for the crash cart. I think that's what it's called, the crash cart. And they, like, she's just fuzzy and wakes up and, like, her blood Pressure went so low where she was about to die.
B
Oh, my.
A
That was. Caught twins.
C
Yes. And my mom caught it. She. She could have. She could have died if she never called it to them. Which is why I'm like, what? It's crazy that, like, that's so, like, imagine it was somebody else that wasn't my mom that does not know, like, what your body's going through like that. But anyways, so that. So she has a big fear of, like, her blood pressure going low. So that medication. Xanax coding. Sorry. Vicodin. Vicodin or.
B
Yeah, it's the painkiller they bring.
C
They bring your low blood pressure low. It's supposed to. Because it's supposed to relax you. But, like, my mom is like, I do not want my blood pressure going low. And. And so she's been like, kind of fucking. So while patients are taking like two fucking Xanax, she's been taking like a half and like, in a long period of time. And I'm like, mom, you really, you really need to take this.
B
Stick to the regimen of what they prescribe.
C
This is why you're hurting so bad. You have to take. And also the, like, if you're not taking this type of relaxants, you're going to swell more, which is going to cause problems with this. And like, I was a mom, trust me, you do not want to go. Have to go back on that table because you've swole too much and now they have to go, yeah, you, mom, you got to take the medication that they give you. As scared as you are from that one situation, as I. Mom, I think you're fine. You just like, you really have to take your medication. So that's where we're at right now. This was. This was today. She's. I think she's graduated to, like, actually taking the full pill, which is good. And where. Where I took her, there's this place called Prestige, like, after Care Center. They've been amazing. They've been so sweet.
B
Oh, good.
C
I've also stayed with her too. I stayed with her that night. Thank God I did, because she was up all night and I had to, like, feed her water very little. Like, literally drops of water because she can't, like, swallow. So I was so glad because I. I wasn't sure if I should go because I didn't want to, like, imp. Like, I didn't want to just impose on, like, impose on, like, the actual
B
care of what they need.
C
I also did it, like, I. I don't know if I Could just also be there while my mom. Like, I. I didn't know if I could communicate with her, and that would get. Kill me because I just would. I just don't know what she's saying.
B
Yeah.
C
And I think that would just like, make me go crazy. Not because, like, like annoyed. It's more just like, you would feel bad.
A
Like, you're just like, yeah, I can't help you.
C
And I knew that the staff would take good care of her, and I was like, maybe it's best that I'm just not there. But I was able to communicate with her, thank God, that night. And I was able to do anything that she asked, which is so good. Thank God. But, yeah, today was day two.
B
How many more days did she have under your care? Is this gonna be like a whole month?
C
No, no, no, no. This is actually the. Just four days. Four days.
B
Yes.
C
Because the first three days are the worst. It's just like.
B
But then she's going back to Florida. She's staying with you for.
C
No, no, no, she stayed. No, no, she has. She has to fully. Like, it takes like four to six weeks for the swelling to go down. She can't be, like, flying.
B
Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. That makes sense.
C
Okay, so, yeah, we already planned that out, so we already knew she was staying with us. But. But yes, the sw. Swelling is. Is so that. I mean, I can show you. I'm. I will not show here yet until she's fully. Fully recovered because I, you know, but I. I can show you if you want, but it. It is. It is like. It's crazy. It's like you. It's. It's crazy seeing someone that you've known for your entire life. Yeah.
B
Look like just they have been in a car accident.
C
Like, a different person. My mom legitimately, like, like legit Avatar, just like, she is just like in a movie. It's. It's. It's so crazy to see. And like. And you, like, when you see something like that, you're just like, oh, my God, like, what if she does not he? Like, it's. It's. It's scary. It's just like, really scary. But you know that there's a whole world of professionals. I know exactly what they're doing, and this is all they do. And it's just like, compared to what
A
I've seen online of, like, other people posting their stuff, she looks so much better already after day one than a lot that I've seen. So, like. Yeah, like, you were telling me, like, oh, like, you know, it's intense.
C
Yeah.
A
It was nowhere near what I thought it was going to be when you were telling me about it.
C
Yeah. And it's also because if my mom was getting this done in Florida, I wouldn't even think twice.
A
Like, I look back, I'd be like,
C
oh, yeah, she's getting.
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
You were swollen for the transplant, Zane. Your head was like, three times.
C
I was back. And you know what's crazy? I even went to record. Isn't that crazy? What the was I thinking? I was like, let's record. This is funny.
A
That was crazy.
C
That was crazy. But, yeah, And I. And I. I. Nothing compared to what she's going through right now. But I brought up to my hair transplant. I was like, mom, I was so scared to get that hair transplant surgery because it was just the first thing ever getting done, like, cosmetically. And that first day, mom, I look like an owl. I was hurting. I felt like this was never going to heal. I thought my hairs were never going to come in because it's such a long process. It takes a year for your hair to fully come in. So sitting there, month two, month three, you look like. Like you're sitting there. Like, I look. Start regretting it.
A
What was I. I look ugly.
C
I look worse than before. And you. It's just like this guilt that you. That. That's surpassing your system. My mom and I made sure this was, like, yesterday. I was like, hey, mom, do you want to hear the emotional timeline that, like, everybody in your position goes through? She's like, please do. And I told her, like, that for those first. The first week is going to be like a. Oh, what the Did I do? Yeah, right. Even when. Even, like, when you start feeling better, it's swelling is going down. You still have that remorse.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Like, what did I.
C
And then it was like, weeks three to four. You're just like, okay, wait.
A
I.
C
Like, I. I think I see it. And then it was like, six to seven weeks. It was just like, okay, wait, I see the vision. It was. There was four different timelines. And it was like, after. It was after, like, it was like three to four months. It was, like, so worth it. That was the timeline. And I kept reminding, like, mom, you are right now.
A
You are in the very beginning.
C
You are just hate. Like, you are, like, regretting it because. Because she was even saying, like, if I knew it was gonna be this much pain, I wouldn't have got because normally people don't do nose job, facelift, everything at the same time. She did it at the same time. Which is a lot. Yeah.
B
She got the triple threat and then
C
to swollen on her neck.
A
Pain medication probably.
C
She's swollen on her neck, her ears, her eyes. Because she got. Because my mom was like, sunken a little bit like over here because, you know, she. She works out, so she's thin. She's like, looks like sunken in. So they put like fat.
B
Yeah.
C
From her own set to like give her like a.
B
Some fuller face, fuller, youthful look.
C
So she's just experiencing so much. Just. And she kept telling me, like, zayn, I wouldn't have done this if I knew it was going to be this much. I was like, but Mom. And that. I think that's the reason. That's probably. That's the, like, that's probably the reason why they don't like, really push it on you. Like, it's going to be painful. It's going to be painful because then people don't go through it and then they regret it later in life. Like, oh, I should have just stuck with it. And it's like knowing my mom, if she knew this and decided to back out. I know, because I know she would have regretted it. She been like, what the fudge was I thinking? Like, I regret it so much. Just like her Lasik, she regretted it waiting so long. I was like this because I was like, mom, I know you are. You're not going to regret this. Just like, yeah, just do what your heart tells you and you're going to look amazing. But yeah, my mom's post op, day two. She's doing great. Health, healthy. But like, she. She's getting there.
B
She's getting there.
C
And I'll keep you guys updated.
B
All the best healing vibes go away as well.
C
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
B
But got this. I'm so excited to hear more updates.
C
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
And I know it's like weird. It's like cosmetic talk.
B
It's not, you know, nothing, like serious. It's. Yeah.
C
It's not. It's not like, like, you know, I know it's not super relatable, but, like, you know, it was just. It was like a great opportunity and with one of the best doctors, Dr. Kabami. And like, and my mom really wanted it. I was like, you know what? I'm gonna do this for her and I'm gonna, like, I mean, I'll make videos for like, just to show. And you know how I love being trans. Transplant, transplant. Transparent with my hair trans. When I got the hair trans surgery, I really wanted every guy in the world that was curious to see if they wanted. I wanted them to see that video. And that's kind of like with this too. It's just kind of like, look, if you're into interested and you can afford it. Here you go. My mom did it. Here you go. My mom really wanted to do it, so.
A
Absolutely.
B
All right.
C
But yeah. Thank you for the healing vibes. Thank you, everybody in the comments. If you wish her luck. Thank you.
A
Say, we love you, Sherry.
B
We love you.
C
Yeah, we love you, mama.
B
All right.
C
That. Well, that was my show. That was my show and tell right today for sharing.
A
You wanna. You want to jump into the unwind?
B
Let's do it.
C
Let's do it.
A
All right. And if you don't know what the unwind is, we'll check out our Patreon. Patreon.com Zane and Heath we keep these cameras rolling and you get an extended cut of every single podcast episode. We call it the Unwind. And then also we do a live Q A every month, a bonus episode every single month again, all on patreon.com Zayn and Heath.
C
We post these episodes every Monday audio form on all podcast platforms, and every Tuesday, video form on YouTube.com zayn and heath. All right.
B
Oh, my.
A
We'll see you in a second, baby.
C
Peace and blessings. Thank you, Tata.
Release Date: April 6, 2026
Hosts: Zane, Heath, Matt, Jared
Theme: Matt returns from a trip to China and shares wild travel stories, deep dives into culture shock, scams, and daily life abroad. The episode also touches on parenthood, cosmetic surgery, and typical friendly banter.
This episode centers on Matt’s recent trip to China, exploring the highs and lows of travel in a modern megacity—Shanghai—as well as traditional and rural experiences, cultural quirks, and a few minor mishaps, including getting scammed. The hosts also catch up on their personal lives, from new baby milestones to cosmetic surgery updates, all wrapped in their laid-back, irreverent tone.
Matt’s China adventure is packed with both awe and awkwardness—a blend of impressive efficiency and hilarious moments of being the obvious bewildered tourist. From the chaotic bargaining scenes in bustling markets to thoughtful insights on cultural difference, the episode is a vivid, entertaining travelogue. The personal updates—from baby milestones to Zane's mom’s cosmetic surgery—bring heart, humor, and the familiar “Unfiltered” spirit.
"You should go. You should go." —Matt (46:51)
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