TexAgs Live - GO Hour with Nuño & OB : 07.27.26

Summary

Podcast Summary: TexAgs Live – GO Hour with Nuño & OB (July 27, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this episode of TexAgs Live's GO Hour, hosts David Nuño and Olin Buchanan, joined by the TexAgs crew, reflect on a busy Aggie football off-season, diving into takeaways from SEC Media Days and the 16th annual PKO (Preseason Kickoff). They discuss the state of the Texas A&M program under coach Mike Elko, themes of culture and program-building, roster development, and the significance of A&M’s brand in college football. The episode is marked by engaging banter, analysis of coaching philosophy, player evaluation, and interactive segments involving other team members.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. PKO (Preseason Kickoff) Reflections

• Event Recap: Hosts discuss the successful 16th annual PKO, which provided little downtime after SEC Media Days.
  • "It was a bit of a ... what's the word here? Having basically, what, 24 hours to digest SEC media days and go right into PKO." — David Nuño [00:03]
• Aggie Representation: Numerous coaches and players attended, and the interactions showcased the depth and character of the current roster.
  • _"I think they had a player at almost every table … Talk about what a gentleman. Nice young man." — Olin Buchanan [00:56, 01:07]

2. Mike Elko's Philosophy and Program Culture

• Confidence and Realism: Excerpts from Elko’s conversations highlight his honest, measured optimism:
  • "You should be extremely confident because at our best, we can beat anyone in the country. But we have a real challenge to be at our very best every step along the way…" — Reading Elko, quoted by David Nuño [01:20]
• Building a 'Real Program': Emphasis on sustainable, culture-driven success rather than quick fixes or chasing recruiting rankings.
  • "It's a real program. You Come to Texas A&M, a real program." — Olin Buchanan [02:12, 02:22]
• Recruiting Philosophy: Elko dismisses obsession with top recruiting class rankings, preferring fit and character:
  • "I could care less what the class gets ranked... we won't bring in the wrong type of kids." — Elko, cited by Nuño [06:37]
  • "He's trying to avoid the baggage. A&M has not earned the cachet that Alabama had... but I think they're getting more... benefit of the doubt." — Olin Buchanan [05:29, 06:06]
• Talent Evaluation: Skeptical of recruiting rankings, Elko and staff trust their own evals:
  • "When you're Elko, you can see a guy ... this guy’s a freaking player. I don’t need somebody up in Nashville telling me he’s not a good player." — Olin Buchanan [07:08]
  • "Most sports guys like ourselves are lazy when it comes to [scouting]. They’re not watching film the way Brooks Austin does..." — David Nuño [07:32]

3. The Importance of System and Development

• Organizational Comparisons: Nuño draws parallels to Georgia and Oregon: the power of system-driven reloads vs. simple reboots.
  • "When you believe in the system and players believe in the system, then it is truly a reload..." — David Nuño [04:06]
• Player Development & Portal Wins: Recognition that not all incoming stars are instant contributors, but that development pays off:
  • "When E.J. Smith would get on the field … at the end of that 24 season, ... last year, definitely his best year was his last year." — Nuño & Buchanan [08:28, 08:46]
  • "Elko and his staff … do a fantastic job of finding that guy that maybe … could be a third round draft choice." — Buchanan referencing transfer portal & position flexibility [10:00, 10:33]

4. Community and Event Moments

• TexAggers & Coaches: The team enjoys direct engagement with the fanbase and Aggie coaches.
  • "My favorite part is actually getting to meet all the Texaggers out there. Shaking hands and hearing stories." — Olin Buchanan [12:49]
  • "I love the check-ins with the other coaches. Leroy Burrell, all that stuff. That was a new element and excellent." — Nuño [14:00, 14:10]
• Women’s Sports Celebration: Shoutouts to Aggie softball players making big plays at the Athletes Unlimited Softball Championship.
  • "It was the Utah Talons and the Chicago Bandits. Mack Barbara, former A&M softball player, was playing in the game..." — Kayla Gaither [15:21]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "At our best, we can beat anyone in the country. But we have a real challenge to be at our very best every step along the way." — Mike Elko, quoted by Nuño [01:20]
• "When a guy who's kind of the half, the glass is half empty guy says hey, you know what? At our best we can beat anybody... he's usually not prone to make that kind of comment..." — Olin Buchanan [03:02]
• "I could care less what the class gets ranked … we won’t bring in the wrong type of kids." — Mike Elko (cited by David Nuño) [06:37]
• "A&M has not earned the cachet Alabama had... but I think they're getting more benefit of the doubt..." — Olin Buchanan [05:29]
• "Most sports guys ... are lazy when it comes to [evaluating players]. They're not watching film the way Brooks Austin does..." — David Nuño [07:32]
• "We all know … it's not just about the top 10 percent. It's the diamonds in the rough — Scooby, Armaj, Reed, Adams..." — Olin Buchanan [10:00]
• "PKO is a great event. The best part is seeing the staff’s lighter side and Aggie family atmosphere." — Nick Savage [12:04]
• "You cannot spell culture without cult... what you call cult-like behavior, I just call tradition." — Josh Pate, on A&M's brand [28:40]

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | Notes | |-----------|---------------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–02:00 | PKO Event Recap | Event highlights, Aggie roster presence | | 01:20–03:02 | Mike Elko Quotes & Confidence | "At our best we can beat anyone..." Elko's candid approach | | 04:06–07:08 | System, Culture, and Recruiting | Program-building, skepticism about rankings, internal evals | | 08:28–10:33 | Player Development/Portal/Underrated Gems | E.J. Smith, Ratcliffe, transfer portal success | | 12:49–14:14 | Community/PKO Coaches & Fans | Meeting TexAggers, new elements, shoutouts | | 15:21–15:45 | Women's Sports Performance | Aggies in AU Softball Championship, Mack Barbara highlight | | 28:08–29:48 | Josh Pate on National Brand | "Texas A&M ... biggest sleeping giant" | | 31:34–35:05 | Building a Winning Streak/Depth | Importance of consistency, portal use, A&M & Georgia parallel | | 37:55–42:14 | SEC Poll Results & National Perception | SEC West projections, respect for A&M & Elko |

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Additional Segments & Tone

• Locker Room Banter: Light-hearted moments regarding PKO fashion choices, inside jokes about being “the before and after guy” in photos (11:14), and recurring jokes about food, “succulent brisket” [16:15–17:33].
• Interactive Crew Check-ins: Nick Savage, Kayla Gaither, and others provide quick-hit perspectives, adding a family-style, informal tone to the analysis.
• Josh Pate Audio Clip: Pate gives a national media perspective on A&M’s brand growth and the power of culture and money at A&M [28:08–29:48].

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Conclusions

• Cautious Optimism: The TexAgs crew expresses firm belief in the trajectory of the A&M program under Mike Elko, appreciating his straightforward, culture-driven leadership style.
• Building, Not Just Winning: Sustained winning and stacking successful years—rather than headline-hunting or ranking-chasing—is seen as the path to branding Texas A&M as a truly elite national program.
• Depth and Development Matter: Emphasis is placed on identifying the right players—overlooked or highly rated—then developing them through the Aggie program.
• National Respect Rising: The national conversation, per Josh Pate and others, increasingly views A&M as a 'sleeping giant'—just in need of consecutive successful seasons to achieve all-time status.
• Community & Tradition: The program’s success is rooted as much in culture, tradition, and community buy-in as it is on-field results.

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This summary captures the key content, spirit, and highlights of the episode, providing fans and newcomers alike with essential takeaways and memorable moments from the July 27, 2026, edition of the TexAgs Live GO Hour with David Nuño and Olin Buchanan.

Transcript

[David Nuno]

PKO was this weekend.

[Olin Buchanan]

It was very successful event.

[David Nuno]

Very successful. It was a bit of a. What's the word here? Having basically, what, 24 hours to digest SEC media days and go right into pko.

[Olin Buchanan]

That's Texas Preseason Kickoff. Sorry, those who are.

[David Nuno]

Those who are not there, the acronym PKO. The 16th annual PKO preseason Kickoff. So, by the way, brought to you by game day, sweet saggy land. Shout out to them for being a proud partner of Tech sags. They have some cool stuff going on. But coming off of SEC media days and going right into that was not a challenge. It was different.

[Olin Buchanan]

Right.

[David Nuno]

Like, usually we have a little bit of a break a week. Yeah. But it was great because we got Marcel, we got Wilkin, Formby, Wilk informing me, Des Ricks, we got Mike Elko, we got Bucky, we got Michael early, we got Trev, we got the Dream Weaver.

[Olin Buchanan]

I think they had a play, a player at almost everybody. I might say every table, but pretty much, yeah. Because I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday when I was at breakfast, and he had Tyree Adams at his house.

[David Nuno]

Okay.

[Olin Buchanan]

Talk about what a gentleman. Nice young man. He was.

[David Nuno]

Yeah.

[Olin Buchanan]

So large young man. Yeah, he's.

[David Nuno]

He's not small, but it was fun. I wrote down a couple of takeaways from Elko's convo with the Billy Lucci.

[Olin Buchanan]

Okay.

[David Nuno]

And a couple things. They're not going to tell you the state secrets. Right. We know that. But he did hit on things that just the exclamation point of why I like him as the head coach, why I really like him. I'm going to read you a couple of the parts of the quotes that he had. He says you should be extremely confident because at our best, we can beat anyone in the country. But we have a real challenge to be at our very best every step along the way. And that's not lost on us, what this schedule looks like. We're going to have to elevate everything that we do to have the kind of success that we want.

[Olin Buchanan]

So

[David Nuno]

that was basically part of the speech or the conversation point where he was like, hey, we can enjoy this. Aggie fans are kind of scared to have too much fun because, oh, you know, what has happened in the past, this is not the past. We're doing things the right way. You can enjoy the process.

[Olin Buchanan]

It's a real program.

[David Nuno]

It's a real program. Right?

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah.

[David Nuno]

You don't want to. What was the other line of that quote?

[Olin Buchanan]

So if you want to be really good at football, you can.

[David Nuno]

You Come Texas A and M, a real program. Anyway, I think that's exactly the, the facts.

[Olin Buchanan]

What I like about that is Elko is not known for being overly optimistic. Right?

[David Nuno]

Yeah. But not pessimistic either.

[Olin Buchanan]

No, no, but, but he's, but he's not the type that's, you know, everything's going to be great. In fact, I think Lucius said, you know, if you had to ask him if he's a half empty, half empty or half full guy, he's the half empty. Like a lot of coaches are. They see the, a lot of coaches see the warts and not the entire, you know, like you can look at old and say that's a good looking old guy. But they're not seeing the growth on my arm. Right. Because it's hidden.

[David Nuno]

You can't unsee it when you see it. So he.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah, right. And then you go, and I wake up every day. This is gross. So anyway, the point is, the, the point is when a guy who's kind of the half, the glass is half empty guy says hey, you know what? At our best we can beat anybody in the country. And he's usually not prone to make

[David Nuno]

that kind of comment, but then he follows it up. But we have to be at our best every friggin week.

[Olin Buchanan]

So we're counting on Elko and his staff to get his players to play. They don't have to be at their best every week. I think they can probably be at their three quarter best and get by Missouri State. Right. It's not every week, but every SEC week there's going to be nine weeks. Ten, let's say 10, Arizona State, that you got to be at your best.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, that's a lot.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah, that's, that's. Yeah, if that, if I, if you're in charge of making sure or trying to make sure a bunch of 18 to 22 year old guys are at their best ever reach. You ought to get paid like 7 or 8 million dollars for that. It's a big job.

[David Nuno]

I think that's the big job that he has.

[Olin Buchanan]

Maybe more.

[David Nuno]

So it goes back to something we've been talking about that I have said on this show several times. I believe in the brand that Coach Yoko brings to the table. Right. Like so you could take away players, you can graduate guys, you can put guys in the NFL. But when you believe in the system and players believe in the system, then it is truly a reload because. And look, he's got to have to do it over and over for him to get to the Level where he gets that support no matter what. But Georgia, you just know they're going to be fine. They may not win the national championship. They haven't won it since 2022. But you know, how many straight SEC championships do they have?

[Olin Buchanan]

Three. Is it. I think they had two there. There were, oh, SEC championship, three or four.

[David Nuno]

But they're always there.

[Olin Buchanan]

Okay.

[David Nuno]

And it doesn't matter if Gunner, Stockton or whoever is there, guys go to the pros. They're going to be just fine.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. Yeah. Like you said, they may not win a championship, but they're going to contend.

[David Nuno]

They're going to be in the mix every year and they lose guys to the, to the league all the time. It's the system in place, picking the right types of players. Another thing he said, which I don't know, I think I had that later for Billy. But I'll just say it out here. He's out concerned about this number one recruiting class. Right. He wants to have the best guys that make the best roster for Texas A and M football that are good citizens that Aggies can be proud of.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. Plus, by the way, we. We saw a couple of years ago how that goes if you're not. And some guys may not. May be talented, but don't bring other baggage. Right. So he's trying to avoid the baggage. But yeah, A and M has not earned the cachet that Alabama had. Understatement. Who did that? Ohio State has that. Georgia has. We just know every year. But I think they get more. I'm talking about nationally. They're getting the benefit of the doubt more like, oh, yeah, you know what?

[David Nuno]

They are.

[Olin Buchanan]

And that's because of my coco.

[David Nuno]

Well, put it this way. Can they be Oregon? I want more than Oregon. But you kind of feel pretty good in this modern era of college football that Oregon's going to be in the mix every year. Right. Dan Lanning has done a good enough job that you're like, you know what? They'll lose guys. They'll bring guys back. They're going to be competing for the Big Ten every year. They may not win it. They may be second or third or fourth, but you know that they are going to field a team that could be of that point late in the season.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yes. Phil Knight's done a great job.

[David Nuno]

He's done great, hasn't he?

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah, he really has.

[David Nuno]

I do have the quote here. I could care less what the class gets ranked because of that. Two things will happen. We probably won't finish number one because we won't do the things that we need to do to finish number one, sell our soul and we won't bring in the wrong type of kids.

[Olin Buchanan]

And he's talking about number one in the recruiting class. And another thing, like, I think Elko definitely and probably most coaches, but he's not too worried about being the number one recruiting class because you gotta understand who's ranking those. I worked with those guys.

[David Nuno]

They don't know.

[Olin Buchanan]

They don't know. And so when you're Elko, you can see a guy and you'll see he may be a three star guy, but you know, man, this guy is a freaking player. Ania Smith, Eric McCoy, you know, Johnny Manziel and he said this guy's a freaking player. I don't need somebody up in Nashville or somewhere else telling me that this guy's not a good player.

[David Nuno]

I don't, I don't think you have had to have played the sport at the highest level to evaluate talent, but I do think most sports guys like ourselves are lazy when it comes to that. They're not watching film the way Brooks Austin does. Sorry, they're not.

[Olin Buchanan]

Well, they may watch a lot of film. They just don't understand. Correct. What exactly what they're seeing sometimes like Brooks Austin does, which is why we

[David Nuno]

on this show, we don't like.

[Olin Buchanan]

I think we're gonna be good because of Elko.

[David Nuno]

But that's.

[Olin Buchanan]

Look, the guys, me, you, Gaither over there, all of us, there are certain guys you can watch and say, yep, that's a five star guy. Yeah, sometimes you're watching a guy and that's five star guy. But you got to take into account of how quickly how bodies develop at a different rate. And so if he's a 6 5, 280 pound kid in high school and he's dominating, then you look at the others, wait a minute. That, that tackle was just 220.

[David Nuno]

And let's not forget about development in this piece. And I'm going to give one. All right? And I'm not proud to admit this, but a couple years back when E.J. smith would get on the field, it's like, I don't know, dude. He was injured, by the way. He was injured and that was part. But I could not wait to see him get on the field at the end of that 24 season and all

[Olin Buchanan]

last year, definitely his best year was his last year. And yeah, he wasn't going to start in front of Le'Veon, but when he got on the field, he ran hard, picked up Got that big first down against Arkansas, even though his blocker got blocked all the way back into the backfield and he into him, but he bounces off and gets that clutch for E.J. smith. If you didn't have Levy on out there, E.J. smith was fine getting that tough yard.

[David Nuno]

Absolutely.

[Olin Buchanan]

And he's great on special teams, too.

[David Nuno]

When we talk about transfer portal wins, that's one we sometimes overlook because he did have Ruben and Le'Veon above him in the. In the depth chart. That being said, that was an absolute steal and a win to have. And I guess that goes back to my point. People were not, you know, yay, A and M. You got ej, you got this, you got Cassius. They didn't know. People don't know.

[Olin Buchanan]

Well, I've always said that one of the great aspects of having Mike Elko and his staff is that he's obviously done a great job of finding the under the radar or the diamond in the rough kind of guy. And I talk about Marcus Ratcliffe. Yep. You know, I'm talking about Nate, Boca chair and Tyler on YouTube and you know, like a day on Hayes. Did he come in and be all, no. But did he make a contribution?

[David Nuno]

He made an impact.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah, absolutely. And these aren't the. Everybody can look at the very, you know, top 10 guys or top 10% and say, oh, yeah, you got to have that guy. Got to have that guy. And A and M got one when they got Nick Tortoise, but it's the Armaj, Reed, Adams. You know, it's those guys. It's Scooby, it's. Yeah, he does a. He. And they do a fantastic job of finding that guy that maybe they. They see Tyler on you playing defensive end and a three man front at Iowa State and being okay. And they're looking at, you know, this guy's a defensive player.

[David Nuno]

We got something here.

[Olin Buchanan]

And we can make him a third round draft. Draft choice.

[David Nuno]

Hey, by the way, I forgot the name of this show.

[Olin Buchanan]

Oh, man. This is Tech SAGS Live.

[David Nuno]

Thank you.

[Olin Buchanan]

To forget that.

[David Nuno]

Yeah. And we're presented by who?

[Olin Buchanan]

We're presented by David. David Gardner's Duelers. And we're working. You can forget that, but you shouldn't.

[David Nuno]

We're.

[Olin Buchanan]

We're in the Rollo Insurance studio. We are Jason Jackson, Keith Morgan and the boys. The rest.

[David Nuno]

We did see a bunch of them.

[Olin Buchanan]

We did.

[David Nuno]

Yeah. I saw Jason. I saw Jackson.

[Olin Buchanan]

I saw Morgan.

[David Nuno]

I saw Morgan. I didn't see Keith. Keith Ward. Keith. Come on, man. What else?

[Olin Buchanan]

Oh, the go hour it is the Go Hour, presented by the WHO warehouse of CC Creations.

[David Nuno]

Well, we were models for them the other day, weren't we?

[Olin Buchanan]

Were. Did you see the way I'm doing the model? I'm always the before guy. You know, this is what you look like before, but this is what you look like after. You're the after guy. I'm the before guy.

[David Nuno]

Well, sometimes after is bad. You get, you know, old and wrinkly and fat.

[Olin Buchanan]

Guilty.

[David Nuno]

Never mind. Let's move on. If you want to be a part of the conversation, there are two ways to do it. You pick the first way.

[Olin Buchanan]

You can call us on the Bupes catering and bartending hotline.

[David Nuno]

That number is 979693.

[Olin Buchanan]

1150.

[David Nuno]

Thank you. I forgot about that. If you want to text the show, we switch the name. We call it the what?

[Olin Buchanan]

The Catalyst. Pure Performance Energy. PPE text line. Same number?

[David Nuno]

Yeah, same number. 9791.

[Olin Buchanan]

693 1150.

[David Nuno]

Thank you very much for that. Let's go around the room. We go left to right. We go behind the glass, through the television.

[Olin Buchanan]

We.

[David Nuno]

We say hi to the director of the year, Nick Savage. Nick, good morning.

[Nick Savage]

Howdy. Good morning, y'.

[Josh Pate]

All.

[David Nuno]

What's up, bud?

[Nick Savage]

Oh, well, my favorite thing we learned at PKO was that Elko did something about the run defense over the offseason. Kidding. No, no. My. My favorite part of. About that event is, you know, we hear it from Billy. We hear it from UOB in the press conferences and stuff like that. Maybe stuff that we don't see before they start how funny and, like, witty Elko is. And it at pko, every year, he has been able to. To display that, and it's fun to hear him kind of jab with. With Billy and whatnot and the subscribers that are there. So that's kind of my favorite part of these PKO events is we get to kind of see a little bit more personality than we're used to from these coaches.

[Olin Buchanan]

My favorite part is actually getting to meet all the Texaggers out there.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, that's fun.

[Olin Buchanan]

You know, shaking hands and hearing stories. So. And, hey, Oliver, down in. Down in Victoria, going into the ninth grade, stay on your grind and be the best you can be.

[David Nuno]

Yes. Be the best.

[Olin Buchanan]

You tell me like him.

[David Nuno]

What's more of his Oliver story? Tell me more.

[Olin Buchanan]

Well, he's. He plays sports. You know, football. His. His dad brought. Brings him up to every year. He was there Friday night, and I took a picture with him two years ago. Okay. I'm saying, hey, Nice. You're nice.

[David Nuno]

I wish I got to meet Oliver.

[Olin Buchanan]

And then he came in and he says, and this. Your eyes are like, oh, hi, Oliver. You know, he's growing up. Yeah, he's growing up and looking good. Look like a good athlete now. He plays football. All right, all firing at the shout out. I've already forgetten forgotten because I forget a lot. His high school, but it's the, it's the private school, Catholic school down in Victoria. Like St. Joe, St. Bob, St. Arnold, you know, one of those saints, St. Ola. St. Olan. Yeah, that'll never be the case.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna comment. I'm just gonna move on.

[Olin Buchanan]

It's okay. Let's move on.

[David Nuno]

Let's check in at the Angry Elephant News. Oh, by the way, I was gonna say something about what he said. We're gonna check in with you in a second. You know what I loved?

[Olin Buchanan]

What?

[David Nuno]

I love the check ins with the other coaches. Leroy Burrell, all that stuff. Bobby Shuttleworth, Steve Denton.

[Olin Buchanan]

That was fun. I thought that was a, you know, a new element and I thought it was excellent.

[David Nuno]

I'll tell you the person who came up with that idea. Brilliant.

[Olin Buchanan]

Was it you?

[David Nuno]

So the Angry Elephant Youth and Social Center. Kayla Gaither in the hisy.

[Kayla Gaither]

I was going to say that too. David. I really loved hearing from all of the other coaches at PKO. Bucky McMillan I think might have been my favorite just because he got me fired up just listening to him talk. Yeah. Talking about not being individuals but being a team player and winning team championships. So I thought that was my favorite part of pko.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, the whole thing is great. And I, I love, like you guys probably don't see it, but when they're coming up on the stage, I typically get to say hi to them as they're coming up and they're just, just class. Everybody we deal with at A and M has been pure class. All right, Gaither, go ahead.

[Kayla Gaither]

I was also going to say some event happened over the weekend as well. It was the Athletes Unlimited Softball Championship. It was happening during pko, so we didn't get to go to every single day. But I was there Thursday night and Sunday, and I will say Sunday, the championship day was. It was an insane environment there at Davis style and there were so many A and M softball players. Trisha Ford was there and it just like a ton of people flew in from all over to come see this event. So it felt amazing.

[Olin Buchanan]

Who was playing in the championship?

[Kayla Gaither]

It was the Utah Talons and the Chicago Bandits. On the Chicago Bandits, Mack Barbara, former A and M softball player, was playing in the game, so she made it to the Ausl championship game. And then Thursday night, we had three Aggies, so Barbara, Tori Vidalis, and Kennedy Powell all playing on Thursday night. So it was great to watch.

[David Nuno]

I bet you were so happy being there.

[Kayla Gaither]

I was.

[David Nuno]

What else do you have for us this morning?

[Kayla Gaither]

In some sad ish news, former Aggie linebacker Nick Scorton did suffer a torn ACL in the first day of Carolina Panthers training camp last year. He had 47 total tackles, and he was set to have a breakout year this year, but unfortunately did have a tear, a torn ACL that will keep him out for the season.

[David Nuno]

That's terrible news.

[Olin Buchanan]

Just. I know he'll work on it and rehab it. And this time next year, we come back better than ever.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, O.B. let's talk food.

[Olin Buchanan]

Oh, I can always talk food. All right.

[David Nuno]

Talk about succulent brisket from one place

[Olin Buchanan]

and one place only, man. 17 succulent brisket at 1775. They ought to have a big neon sign. Doesn't even have to say 1775. Say succulent brisket.

[David Nuno]

Yes, I. Succulent brisket. Say it again.

[Olin Buchanan]

Succulent brisket.

[David Nuno]

Slow it down.

[Olin Buchanan]

Succulent brisket.

[David Nuno]

Yeah. I think we should make shirts like that.

[Olin Buchanan]

Just. Yeah.

[David Nuno]

With your faces.

[Olin Buchanan]

ARR.

[Lady Luck]

ARR.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. You know what? But doesn't have to be just the succulent brisket because they got the amazing pork ribs and that. And I like. I have a different word all the time, but I like scrumptious for that jalapeno cheese sausage. The turkey. I even like the turkey.

[David Nuno]

Why do you say it like that? Like they're your stepchild that you don't really care for? I like it. I mean, he's my kid. I like him. But he's not.

[Olin Buchanan]

No, because that's. That's your domain, because you're the one that's making sure the calories are all counting and everything. I'm the guy that says, I'm fat guy.

[David Nuno]

I'm going to eat what I like.

[Olin Buchanan]

But I like the turkey. And pulled pork's not my deal, but people that like pulled pork told me it's really good over there. But you know what I really like?

[David Nuno]

I know what you really like.

[Olin Buchanan]

There's queso Mac and cheese. You gotta have it. It's the perfect. It's God's side dish.

[David Nuno]

You think God would.

[Olin Buchanan]

I think he would say break some

[David Nuno]

bread or a little Queso Mac, he

[Olin Buchanan]

would say, this is my side dish.

[David Nuno]

Why does he talk like a newsaker? He doesn't talk like a news anchor.

[Olin Buchanan]

Big voice, you know. Okay, yes.

[David Nuno]

I think he just talks like a normal guy. Like, hey, David.

[Olin Buchanan]

No, I don't. I don't see it that way. Okay. Well, especially after he's had some queso Mac and cheese.

[David Nuno]

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[David Nuno]

We're back here on Tex Ags Live. We are presented by David Gardner Shielders. We are in the Rollo Insurance studio. He's Olan Buchanan.

[Olin Buchanan]

He's David Nuno.

[David Nuno]

Thanks. Appreciate that. Hey, by the way, I say this every year in my head. I don't know if I say it out loud. I gotta do something about the wardrobe at pko. Like I am dressing like I'm going to a funeral.

[Olin Buchanan]

No, you look good.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, but nobody else is in a suit, so I'm the tryhard.

[Olin Buchanan]

I had on a sports coat.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, but the sports coat, I think is the right kind of professional.

[Olin Buchanan]

You know what? You probably should just dress whatever you're comfortable in because you could probably go to that kickoff and wear, you know, one of your schmedium shirts. Yeah, why not? Shorts, you know?

[David Nuno]

Yeah, I might do like a jersey, like a tank top for the gun show.

[Olin Buchanan]

Just go up there in your Speedo and get Gaither and all the other interns, you know, to oil you up before. And you go out there and do your. I think I do my own oil your javelin pose.

[David Nuno]

I think we have hr.

[Olin Buchanan]

I'll do my own break down into the crab and then the crab.

[David Nuno]

To the crab. No, like standing up and do it. Okay. Don't fall, though.

[Olin Buchanan]

Isn't that the crap?

[David Nuno]

Yeah. I think we're going to pump you up. Hey, Saturday Night Live.

[Olin Buchanan]

That's right.

[David Nuno]

Hans and Franz, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, it is time for. It's that time of year, buddy.

[Olin Buchanan]

It's already. We're already here. We're already here. There's about 40 days total, I think, until football season.

[David Nuno]

42, I think.

[Olin Buchanan]

Days? Is it 42?

[David Nuno]

Something like that. Do the math.

[Olin Buchanan]

It's close.

[David Nuno]

25 and 25. 25 and 20, presented by Paragon Financial Advisors, an Aggie owned independent fee only fiduciary serving families and business owners nationwide. Visit [e-mail] and before we get to who number 25 is and we'll do a deeper dive with Billy later, I want to explain how it works. Okay. So 25 and 25 is one of my most stressful things that I do at Texas.

[Olin Buchanan]

Really? Yeah.

[David Nuno]

Because I want to give everybody the respect that they deserve. Right. Like, I really want to. I take my time thinking about it. I also got to get the staff to participate in it. Right. And I get to get the subscribers. That's the easy part. They go on, they vote. So it's broken down into quarters.

[Olin Buchanan]

Quarters.

[David Nuno]

Olin's vote gets 25%.

[Olin Buchanan]

Okay.

[David Nuno]

Okay. We've got Billy's vote. That gets 25%. Should be like 80%. But 25, we get David Nuno.

[Olin Buchanan]

That's the fourth quarter and overtime if necessary.

[David Nuno]

And the subscribers, 25%. We throw it in a pot. Matthew Dawson spits out an algorithm that gives you the results.

[Olin Buchanan]

Of course not Matthew Dawson.

[David Nuno]

It's the Dawson Express. So. And before I tell you who number 25 is, I want to tell you a little bit about how I typically do it.

[Olin Buchanan]

Okay.

[David Nuno]

I typically, typically, not always try not to put freshmen on there because I think they have to do it at this level for me. But that doesn't mean I'm completely against it.

[Olin Buchanan]

Okay.

[David Nuno]

But I'm just like. I try not to. And then I typically try not to have a specialist on there. Okay. So you're not more than likely a field goal kicker isn't going to be on there.

[Josh Pate]

You could.

[David Nuno]

But I typically go more on the other positions. Now, what the fans do and what you do and what Billy does, that's just typically my template.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. I remember putting Braden, man, because he was amazing. Yeah. So. And then I. One year, I was very proud of myself for this. I actually had Cullen Gillespie in my top 25 one time before he hit it big.

[David Nuno]

Right?

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. Before that, last year.

[David Nuno]

Yeah.

[Olin Buchanan]

But you're right. I heard there have been years where someone said, you got to put this guy. And I'm like, no, no, can't do it. And for me. Yeah, look back in, if we were doing this and we did in 14, I guarantee I had Myles Garrett on. Yeah, right.

[David Nuno]

Yeah.

[Olin Buchanan]

I mean, some freshmen are just different. But typically I'm going to leave off freshmen and really a lot of younger guys if they haven't Played. I'm not. I will put guys in based on potential. Potential, but not often.

[David Nuno]

Yep.

[Olin Buchanan]

Usually I, you know, I have to see what you've done. It doesn't necessarily have to be at A and M, especially now.

[David Nuno]

Right.

[Olin Buchanan]

But I've got to, I've got to actually see it because there's such a big climbing.

[David Nuno]

I will tell you there. So who number 25 is, which I'm still holding it out for a second, we haven't seen much of. All right, so this does this and this person was on my top 25 for the record. But like, I, I, I thought hard about Aaron Gregory and K.J. edwards. I thought hard about those guys because I do think they're going to be major contrib. But I gotta look at the 12 games and where we are today and I try to forecast a little bit. Right. Of course all this is forecasting, but based on the info we have to this day. So what I'm gonna do is I'm just gonna tell you who it is.

[Olin Buchanan]

Just tell me, talk a moment about

[David Nuno]

it and then we'll have billy go. Number 25 is. Ladies and gentlemen. Gentlemen. Why'd I say that with a T at the end?

[Olin Buchanan]

I don't know.

[David Nuno]

Because it's Lamont.

[Olin Buchanan]

There you go.

[Josh Pate]

Rogers.

[Olin Buchanan]

Lamont Rogers.

[David Nuno]

Lamont Rogers. Now, I don't know if he's going

[Olin Buchanan]

to be a starter.

[David Nuno]

That's the great part of this, is that this dude might start, might not. I expect him to play a lot. He is that talented. He's gotten that many good reviews from the spring and how he developed last year. Lamont Rodgers at number 25, which I think speaks volumes about what this offensive line could be if we don't know if he's a starter.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. And so I'll be honest, I didn't have him on my top 25. I get where you're going. This is a potential. But you also said, I don't know if he's going to start. And I hope, I hope that all of our starters and he may be a starter are in the top 25.

[David Nuno]

He may play as much of a starter. Right. Like, you know, this line has, they have gone with a rotation in the past. You know, they'll go seven, eight deep.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. And I've seen that before. I've seen sometimes you had a offensive line that was just so good. Like, all right, 2012.

[David Nuno]

Yeah.

[Olin Buchanan]

When you had Joel and, and Matthews and boy, he, I mean, there's three eventual first round draft choices. If you would have said, okay, I got Jermaine Affetti on that team, too, but he's not quite a starter yet. Right. Okay, I can see that because he ended up being a first round pick. So. Yeah, I'm not saying that's wrong. That Lamont Rogers, oh, no, he can't be one of the top 25, but he may be in the top 10.

[Nick Savage]

Yeah.

[Olin Buchanan]

I just haven't seen it yet.

[David Nuno]

Yeah. And which is why it's hard for me sometimes when I do these lists is like I'm trying to project, but until we see it. That being said, 6, 6, 3, 37 and was a five star coming out of high school. Obviously, the potential is there, the size is there and. And the coaches rave about him.

[Olin Buchanan]

So the coach is there because he's getting. He's going to get good coaching. Yep, he's going to get good. He's going to get good strength and development. He's going to get good position coaching. You know, Elko is going to motivate.

[David Nuno]

Yep.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah, he could be all those things.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, he can absolutely be that. All right, we'll hit a break here. We'll come back. Josh Page spoke about A and M recently. He speaks about A and M. He's fair. That's what I like. When he's fair and balanced.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah.

[David Nuno]

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[David Nuno]

We're back. Tech Sags Live, presented by David Gardner's Jewelers Rollo Insurance Studio. We've been chilling. We haven't even told people we're hanging out. The holistic Planning Cool Zone.

[Olin Buchanan]

That's why it's been kind of chilly.

[David Nuno]

I like making money.

[Olin Buchanan]

Nothing's cooler than making money. I gotta tell you. I think it's cool to make money. I'm a capitalist and I want some capital.

[David Nuno]

I like to make money. And when I let my money work

[Olin Buchanan]

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[David Nuno]

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[Olin Buchanan]

So you can just invest a little bit and they'll bring you back a lot.

[David Nuno]

OB let's talk brands in college football, shall we?

[Olin Buchanan]

Okay.

[David Nuno]

So what do you think are the top brands in college football?

[Olin Buchanan]

You know Notre Dame, you know Ohio State,

[David Nuno]

by the way, I forget how he phrased it, but Trev mentioned A and M being when it Brand value third in the country at our event. Brand value like we what we bring to the table. A and M is third in the country. Was it Texas and Ohio State one?

[Olin Buchanan]

I'd have to put Texas up there, too. Yeah, probably. Alabama's got a good brand from all the winning and things like that, so.

[David Nuno]

But when you're talking about brands that you're going to get behind over the next few years, who's got the most to gain? Josh Pate was asked that question on his show and he gave a answer that we've heard before, but he explained it. Here's Josh Pate talking about the brand he would buy.

[Josh Pate]

Anyway, here's the question. What programs are best positioned to become a top 10 brand in college football within the next 10 years that we would not consider top 10 today? Texas a and M by a mile is my number one answer. I don't think Texas A and M is considered a top 10 brand today. Texas A and M could easily be this. I fought this battle forever. I have long believed this has been the biggest sleeping giant program in terms of like national top 10, top five potential.

[David Nuno]

Cause they have it.

[Josh Pate]

But there is a portion of our audience. There's a portion of the college football public that refuses to believe something's possible until their eyes see it. Tamai, plural of doubting Thomases. And I don't have to see it to believe it can happen. So Texas A and M would be there and I would ask, so if you don't believe it's possible, what does it take to be a top 10 program brand that they don't have? Because mainly the answer is money. And they've got that. They've got a massive fan base. Put like 300,000 people in that stadium every Saturday. Massive fan base. Also unique culture. It was pointed out to me the other day that you cannot spell culture without cult. As I was making an A and M point, which I thought was uncalled for at the least and inappropriate at the worst. What you call cult like behavior, I just call tradition. So I've never had a problem with Texas A and M, but yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Like they're already kind of there. They just made like they were just in the playoff last year.

[David Nuno]

OB Everything he said, I'm on board with.

[Olin Buchanan]

You know what I always say though? He says you can't spell. They say you can't spell culture without. I always say America starts with A

[David Nuno]

and M. Make that a shirt. Yeah, I agree with you, by the way, because it's facts and. Or in there. But so what does A and M. Okay, what is the missing ingredient?

[Olin Buchanan]

Winning consistently. And you know, we. A and M has won. See, that's the thing that people forget. And they, they, they won under Jackie Cheryl. They won under RC slogan. No national championships, but conference championships. And then a guy who doesn't work in sports fired RC Slocum. And so you had the Francione curse. Yep. And then we cursed some more when it was Mike Sherman.

[David Nuno]

Mike Sherman.

[Olin Buchanan]

And then, you know, someone won. We thought that he was going to be. Turns out, you know, he had Johnny Manziel and Mike Evans and okay, he inherited those guys and Jimbo won. I mean their 2020 team should have been in the 14 playoff. They got big timed by Notre Dame, you know, but that's going to happen. And then they got, you know, last year they're in the playoffs. So A and M has been able to win. It's just they haven't been able to, especially since they got out of the Big 12 to put seasons together, sustained winning years. It's kind of like what they. Like Lucy always says about recruit, you know, you gotta stack the recruiting classes, you gotta stack the winning, the winning together. I agree the big winning.

[David Nuno]

Which is why this year, I think could go a long way into silencing homeboys. Like, they've done it back to back years. It's every year is now. I don't know if this year is going to be better from a regular season record standpoint. I don't know. To build on 11 and 2, you

[Olin Buchanan]

gotta go 12, 12 and.

[David Nuno]

Oh, right, let's do it. Which I would love to see. Right.

[Olin Buchanan]

But I don't think this the home of the 12th win.

[David Nuno]

I would love to see that. I would like to see the 14th and the 15th.

[Olin Buchanan]

Well, I'm talking about just regular season,

[David Nuno]

regular season, 12th win. But if I believe if they put together a 9 and 3 better 9 and 3 or better record, that they are definitely on that path of what we're talking about, sustained winning.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. I mean, I could see where this would be in past years. Not. You wouldn't just see this season coming up. Think, okay, this could be a. I don't want to say a bad season. This could be the season where you re.

[David Nuno]

Reload.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. Rebuild, rebuild. It could be a rebuilding year. It could be a tradition transitional year. Why? Because you lost 10 guys to the NFL draft and A and M typically couldn't lose that kind of talent and

[David Nuno]

be back the next year.

[Nick Savage]

Yeah.

[Olin Buchanan]

But with Elko's recruiting, with the development with that. We talked about the finding the diamonds in the rough that in the transfer portal that he's so good at. Yeah, they could absolutely come back. And I think it's all the. If the offensive line is good and they don't have any major, major injuries, that's Marcel or somebody to that degree, then. Then yeah, if the offensive line is effective, then there very much could be a 10 win team.

[David Nuno]

Gaither, do me a favor. Look up how many new players Georgia has transfer and incoming freshmen. I'm just curious because I believe the way A and M is doing it is. Look that they had 43 players I think this past year, whatever it is, the way A and M is doing it is they are using the portal where they have to and they are developing everywhere else.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah.

[David Nuno]

And I think that's what Georgia has done over the years. I think that's what really now, it's not to say that a team like Ole Miss or whatever Lane Kiffin touches, they are full of transfers. And I'm not saying that isn't going to win eventually. Right. But I feel like, yeah, A and M went into the portal a little bit more this year because they had To. But they also were the least amount. They lost the least amount of players in the SEC to the transfer portal.

[Olin Buchanan]

Well, I think when you look at your high school classes, no matter how highly they're ranked, typically some more better than others. Particular. Typically about. You hit on about a third of them. Yeah. So if you got, you know, 24 guys in your class, you know, eight of them. Eight, 16, 40. Yeah, eight would be really good. Really good. And then you may have some others that contribute. But so now you got that. You got your eight really good guys still two years in a row. So they're 16. But now you say, okay, yeah, but the tight ends didn't work out or I'm not just picking on tight ends or, you know, the safeties didn't work out. So now you go into the transfer portal and you might say, oh, I didn't get this guy. But there's this guy at San Diego State and I've watched him and I think this guy could come in and transition into the SEC and really play at a high level. So let's go get him. And that's what they've done so well.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, they have. You have that number.

[Kayla Gaither]

So Georgia has 35 new players. Nine are transfers and 26 are signees.

[David Nuno]

Okay, nine are transfers only.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah.

[David Nuno]

Yeah.

[Kayla Gaither]

Nine are transfers out of 30.

[Olin Buchanan]

Cherry picking.

[David Nuno]

And by the way, I believe they are the youngest team in college football.

[Kayla Gaither]

Yes, they were. I can't remember these.

[David Nuno]

19 and a half. I think they were.

[Kayla Gaither]

Yeah, it was about 19 and a half. So it's interesting that they're the youngest now.

[David Nuno]

A and M isn't that much older.

[Olin Buchanan]

Right, right.

[Kayla Gaither]

They were about 20 and a half.

[David Nuno]

Yes.

[Kayla Gaither]

Yeah.

[David Nuno]

And I think Texas and Ohio State were all on that, which is, to me, weird now where that could hurt them. Could. And again, that's not the starters. Starters age, I would assume is a little higher. Right. A and M obviously has got a lot of players with experience that will be starting this year. But I think where it'll be interesting is the first part of the year as young players have to play how hard that schedule is. Because I think as the season goes on, these teams with young players that are elite, talent wise, I think they're going to figure it out.

[Olin Buchanan]

I know at our kickoff event, Elko talked about feeling really good about depth, and he's talking about competition. It's great for the competition. And also you're going to need that depth because not only are you going to play 12 games, but now it may sound like, oh, big Deal. It's just one more. But now it's nine SEC games, 10 games against, when you count Arizona State against Power Four competition. And then you want to get into the playoff and play a whole bunch more games. So you better be deep.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, you better be deep. Let's hit a break. I want to talk about the SEC poll because I thought A and M finished fourth, by the way, which that's not the vibe I got when talking to the media there. Like, I think it's exactly where A and M wants to be. Kind of under the radar, but yet a lot of respect. So we'll talk about that on the other side. Right now we're talking Guarantee bank and Trust, three great locations in the Bryan College Station area. They're very deeply invested in this community. You'll see them all around town. And their market president, Brandon Sears, he's an Aggie, leads the team. He's fantastic. Go talk to him about Aggie sports or whatnot. But anywhere you are in Texas, if you're in Dallas, Houston, you name it. They got 33 locations across the state, also in Central Texas, East Texas, you name it. And they make local decisions with people that you know and trust. They want to grow strong for their community and help you grow stronger. And they're going to help support you in financial education, homeownership, local business, nonprofit efforts right here in this very own community. They are Aggielands Community bank and they are tailored to help you support yourself and your financial endeavors. The website is gnty.com that is gnty.com. it is Guaranty bank and Trust, a division of Glacier bank member fdic equal housing lender Scott Clinton and all.

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[David Nuno]

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[Olin Buchanan]

Cool zone.

[David Nuno]

OB the SEC media picked A&M fourth in the SEC. Okay, but when I was at SEC media days, I feel like I'm talking really fast. Let me slow it down. When I. It was at SEC Media Days, Olin, how would God say it?

[Olin Buchanan]

When you, David, were at sec. Yay, David. Yay. Oh, yeah. I'm not cheering for you. Yay. David. Yes. When you were at Southeastern Conference Media Days, you.

[David Nuno]

Have you heard the new yay? Never mind.

[Olin Buchanan]

Anyway, I mean, Kanye. I know it's what you're talking about.

[David Nuno]

The new album's not good. Not good at all. At least I haven't given it a chance anyway. All right, where were we?

[Olin Buchanan]

God.

[David Nuno]

God had a big fan. Huge. The biggest. What I was going to say is that everybody I talked to, I felt like, oh, Oklahoma, they're a top three team, and nobody was mentioning A and M to me when we were talking. They were under the radar. You know who else I felt was a little under the radar? I thought Georgia was a little under the radar for Georgia standards.

[Kayla Gaither]

Yeah, they're.

[David Nuno]

They're like they were picked to finish first, but nobody was really talking about them. I didn't. I don't remember them being a talking point.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. But you know who they're talking about, Kirby? Oh, Texas. Texas. But.

[David Nuno]

But. But lsu.

[Olin Buchanan]

Texas and Oklahoma. And LSU are getting most of the.

[Nick Savage]

Yes.

[Olin Buchanan]

Discussion. LSU for obvious reasons. Texas, because they always are. And, oh, you's kind of the sexy hot pick now to say, oh, yeah, they, you know, their quarterback's not hurt like he was last year, and look how good the defense is going to be.

[David Nuno]

So they vote with their phone or their laptop, but they speak with their mouth. And what they say is different than how they vote.

[Olin Buchanan]

I think that at least that's what

[David Nuno]

they felt like to me.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah. I think with Texas A and M being ranked fourth, that goes back to. It's all about. I think that is all about two things. It's about the respect for Elko that they have for Elko. And then they're saying, you know,

[David Nuno]

they

[Olin Buchanan]

got that quarterback back. A lot of teams don't have their quarterback.

[David Nuno]

Yeah.

[Olin Buchanan]

And that guy, if you really think about it, he's pretty good. Really? Pretty good.

[David Nuno]

Pretty good.

[Olin Buchanan]

He didn't have a great close, but, yeah, for 11 weeks, he was the Heisman Trophy. Not leading candidate, but solid candidate.

[David Nuno]

He was in the. If they win that Texas game, he gets invited to New York. Sorry, guys. That's the fact.

[Olin Buchanan]

If he goes out and had a great game against Texas, then I think people are looking at him and Mendoza and they're like, I'm not sure, you know, Mendoza had a. He struggled against Penn State not that long ago, you know, but he did. Mendoza probably would have won anyway. But the point is. Yeah, he's. People are looking at saying, well, you know, that coach has really, really got something going there. And, oh, by the way, there's only a handful of teams that have their quarterback, and Texas A and M is one of them.

[David Nuno]

Yeah. So I. I would have thought there would have been picked to finish six.

[Olin Buchanan]

Okay.

[David Nuno]

I would have thought the consensus would have been like they're about the six best team and I think people would have looked at their schedule and how many times they got to go on the road.

[Olin Buchanan]

Well, who are the five teams you thought the media would put ahead of them?

[David Nuno]

All right, let's go through it. Georgia, Texas, lsu, lsu, Oklahoma, and. I don't know.

[Olin Buchanan]

No, not Ole Miss.

[David Nuno]

I don't think I. I would have thought that. No, I thought Ole Miss would have been right around where A and M is, but.

[Olin Buchanan]

Well, aren't they?

[David Nuno]

Yes. They finished third and A&M finished fourth, but I would have thought like fifth or sixth for Ole Miss based on the meeting. You can't do it anymore.

[Olin Buchanan]

Is that so. Old essay.

[David Nuno]

Yeah, it's done.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah, I like to bring back the oldies. Six or seven.

[David Nuno]

Sorry.

[Olin Buchanan]

Anyway, yeah, so they said Oklahoma, Texas, Georgia, lsu because of Kiffin and I guess Ole Miss.

[David Nuno]

Yeah.

[Olin Buchanan]

Okay, that's fair. But if you're six, that means they're looking at you. Say this team could. Is. Is a playoff contender because they had five teams from the SEC playoff last year.

[David Nuno]

Yeah. Good stuff. OB Start off the week, there's never

[Olin Buchanan]

a bad time to talk about college football, but now it's the best. The best time. Yeah. Thank you. Finishing that for me.

[David Nuno]

It is. It's. We're here.

[Olin Buchanan]

We're here. We're always here. Except I won't be here next week.

[David Nuno]

Yeah. So you. You're a 2 percenter.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yeah.

[David Nuno]

I'll take a day off too, at some point. Thanks.

[Olin Buchanan]

Yo, will you?

[David Nuno]

Yeah, I will at some point.

[Olin Buchanan]

You take a day off. No, hey, I'll take a Gabe Cation. I don't care.

[David Nuno]

All right, we'll hit a break. We'll come back with Blake Topmeyer of USA Today. We'll get his thoughts on SEC media days as camps are, what, a week and some change away? So we'll all. We'll chitchat with him about that and more. It's Tech Sacks live. Hey, everybody.

[Lady Luck]

Lady luck here. And we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on spinquest.com which is an American owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to spinquest.com get yourself a $30 quest coin pack for just 10 bucks.

[David Nuno]

Spin quest is a free to play

[Olin Buchanan]

social casino void where prohibited.

[David Nuno]

Visit spinquest.com for more details.