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Tom Segura
100%.
Bert Kreischer
And we're back. It's another episode of Two Bears, One Cave. We're here in Austin, Texas, with my buddy Bert. And this is our week, man. This is our week. This is. Netflix is a joke week. We are going to be in Los Angeles this week. There's a bunch of shit going on, but Most importantly, the 5K. The 2 Bears 5K. If you have not yet registered, go to 2bears5k.com It's. It'll be May 9th in Pasadena at the Rose Bowl. It is one big party. What I'm saying is we are not elite runners. And a lot of people who show up, show up just to walk, to feel like they're part of a community. Some people jog, some people run, walk, some people fucking sprint. You can participate in any which way you want to, but know that we have recovery centers. We have entertainment, we have food, we have porosos.
Tom Segura
We've decked this place out. We will have everything. Cold plunges, saunas.
Bert Kreischer
It's year three. We have it dialed in. Dude.
Tom Segura
Yeah, this is. This is the best 5k out there, without a doubt. And, and, and it. It's a blast. And like I said, let us be your first 5K. We are great. Entry level 5K.
Bert Kreischer
It's so fun. It really is so fun. A lot of comedians will be there. A lot of your favorites will show up. There's going to be actors and singers. All types of celebs will be there. But it's really about just the community atmosphere. And it really is so much fun. I never thought that this would be something that would happen in my life, and I've done. I've done ours. Obviously. This will be the third in a row I've done other ones. There's nothing like this thing. There really is nothing like it.
Tom Segura
I'm so glad we've had a bunch of stupid ideas, and I'm so glad this one stuck around.
Bert Kreischer
This is a great idea.
Tom Segura
This is. And this is probably the best idea we've ever had because it's a small amount of work on our part.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Our teams take care of it. They kind of plan everything and. And we just run. I'm gonna be fucking flying this year.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, you are.
Tom Segura
I know.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, probably from last year. You're probably down like £40 or something, right?
Tom Segura
Oh, I couldn't even tell you. I don't know. I don't. I've never. It's so funny when you. When you start to get healthy. Certain things, like there's this guy that's got this Instagram account. And he's like. And it's. I wish I could give him a shout out, but he's like, things fat guys do. And it's. All he does is things fat guys do. Like, sits down on the couch and then puts a pillow over his stomach. And I go, I do that all the time. Or, like, just tugging his shirt like. Like having.
Bert Kreischer
Like, the pool away.
Tom Segura
And. And. And I. I could tell you things unhealthy guys do. Like, unhealthy guys will never let you take their blood pressure.
Bert Kreischer
I've never heard somebody so aggressive towards somebody than when I've been with you. And somebody's like. Like, to get an iv, it's usually a standard thing where they go, just take your blood. And you'll go, don't fucking do that shit. And I'm like, holy shit.
Tom Segura
I said something about that on stage the other night. Is like, if you're with a guy who doesn't like his blood pressure getting tight, he's the. Who needs to get his blood pressure.
Bert Kreischer
Of course.
Tom Segura
And I've seen you get aggressive. I take my blood pressure every day now, and I take a picture of it and I send it to my cardiologist. 111 over 72 this morning.
Bert Kreischer
I don't know anything about blood pressure.
Tom Segura
I do.
Bert Kreischer
Is that good? It's perfect. What was it. What was it when it was bad? Like, what was the.
Tom Segura
When I was in the hospital with a blood clot, it was 170 over 110. Which is. Which is like, that's not good. It's not good. And it was so bad, they turned the thing so I couldn't see it.
Bert Kreischer
Really?
Tom Segura
Yeah. And. And the guy said to me, I told you this, but the guy said to me, when I was in the CAT scan, he's like, are you having a heart attack? Because it was. The blood pressure was just sky. And now what happens when you get injured? When you're in pain or injured, your blood pressure raises.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
So I had a blood clot. And, you know, it's crazy. I mean, I'm obsessed with my whoop.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
The day I got the blood clot, the day I got the blood clot, my biological age on the whoop shot up to 60 years old.
Bert Kreischer
Wow.
Tom Segura
The day. And that thing is so fucking accurate, by the way.
Bert Kreischer
Is it wild to you that that's your next benchmark thing?
Tom Segura
What's that?
Bert Kreischer
Diet? No, 60.
Tom Segura
I never thought about it. Leanne said to me, she goes, how much longer are you gonna Be doing this. And I'm like, fucking. I'm gonna buy a bus. Just a spider.
Bert Kreischer
Do you. But when you sit in that, do you actually think about that? Like. Like, that question. Do you ever go, like, well, how much longer will I do this? Or.
Tom Segura
No. No, I don't. Only because, like, everyone's still doing it that's older than me.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
So I go, well, I guess I'll wait and watch till they stop.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
It's crazy. Can I tell you something that's driven me nuts? And I'm only saying this out loud because I would never, never say this to him privately. I would never say. But I don't mind saying things publicly. Red Band. The other day, when I was in the mothership, the last time I was on the mothership, he goes, what did he say to me? He goes, you don't look like you're gonna die. And I was like, what?
Bert Kreischer
Just out of nowhere?
Tom Segura
Yeah. And he was like, you're my canary in the mine. And I was like, I'm your canary in the mine. Like, I sent you that article about outrunning death.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And apparently, if you work out, the more. I'm doing this stat wrong. But the morbidity for people who just drink is like this. Shroom. They just all die. Right. The morbidity for people that work out is like this. They live forever. But the morbidity of people who drink and work out is almost identical to people that just work out.
Bert Kreischer
And this is what you embrace the hardest.
Tom Segura
I hang my dick on that.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
I fucking. And now I'm just working out. Just working out.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And I go, I've got to be adding up. I'm losing biological age. Every week. I drop, like, six months. Six months.
Bert Kreischer
Really?
Tom Segura
Down to, like, 56 years old right now.
Bert Kreischer
That's great, man.
Tom Segura
I know. But. But. But I.
Bert Kreischer
What do you think you can do the 5k in.
Tom Segura
I definitely break 30. I know that.
Bert Kreischer
That's great.
Tom Segura
Yeah. I've been running about. I've been doing legs a lot and not running as much, so. And then when you run after you've done legs, you just have spring in your step. I could probably do the 5K in. In under, maybe under 27 minutes.
Bert Kreischer
That's super impressive.
Tom Segura
Yeah. But I got nothing else, Tom. Well, yeah, like, I got nothing else. Like, there's nothing in my life. That's the thing that I'm. I'm like. And then here's the other thing. So, like, I keep thinking of you. Why do you decide to have a drink Me, like when, at what point is it, what is the thing where you go, oh, I'll have a drink. When does that happen for you? For the regular person? Yeah, when do you say? Or when do you say? Well, I like to smoke weed.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, I, I would say the drink thing is a hundred, hundred percent dictated by social setting.
Tom Segura
Really.
Bert Kreischer
Almost. I would say 99.9 of the time.
Tom Segura
So pain. A social setting. Like you go to dinner.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, so I'm at dinner and it's like ordering a steak and I'll go, I'll have a glass of cab with that. Okay, Right. Or like a social setting where I go to see people and they're at a bar and we're like hanging out and they go, we just ordered drinks. I go, well, have a drink. Like, so the social setting kind of dictates.
Tom Segura
Do you ever dictate the drink? Do you ever go, you guys want to get drinks?
Bert Kreischer
Maybe like once in a while.
Tom Segura
Do you ever smoke weed by yourself? No edibles to go to sleep still?
Bert Kreischer
Not very often.
Tom Segura
I don't need edibles to sleep at all. Very often. I sleep perfectly.
Bert Kreischer
That's fantastic. I do have days where I'm like, oh, I realize if I really gas myself out, like, especially like cardio wise.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
If you throw a sauna in there, I sleep like I'm on morphine. Like, it's crazy how well I sleep when, when I have that level of like real earned fatigue. I sleep like a baby. But most days, yeah, I can't sleep. I mean, I can sleep well, but it's not like, oh my God, beautiful.
Tom Segura
Sleep not partying. I work out very intensely. Like, I find myself pushing it in the gym harder than I ever did drinking. Like, I go, I think to myself, oh, so this is why you went. This is why you got into the gym today is this moment right here. Yeah. And I, and I think that's really cool because it doesn't happen when you're drinking. When you're drinking, you just are. Like, just the fact that I'm here is something.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Like I'm doing anything that counts.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
But when you're not drinking, it's like, why not just exhaust yourself? Because all you got to look forward is going to sleep.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
But I can't find a reason to smoke pot. I can't find a reason to drink. Like, I could see myself, I could see myself very easily once you go in six months and then go, I have seven because I don't have no reason to drink.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And then I Think, you know, like a vacation with the girls. I'll have a reason. I'll be like. I'll be like, oh, this is beautiful. But if Leanne's not drinking, what am I gonna drink by myself? I also don't need it. That's the fucked up part, is you, you get. You forget how much you don't need it. Can I tell you, I'm heartbroken about Tiger Woods?
Bert Kreischer
What are you heartbroken?
Tom Segura
Because I love that guy.
Bert Kreischer
He's awesome.
Tom Segura
The idea that he doesn't have control.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And I mean, look, any of us have you see the footage of him in the car?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. Yeah.
Tom Segura
Any of us. It seems like he's got, like, he's. It seems like he's. It's got all its hooks in him.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. I mean, it's sad because he was like a. I think, for our age, too. He's like a hero.
Tom Segura
Yes.
Bert Kreischer
That.
Tom Segura
That made.
Bert Kreischer
Made the sport exciting again and also was like this outlier of talent where, like, you know, it was kind of like when growing up, when you watch MJ play ball, you were like, this is Superman. And then.
Tom Segura
But he. But mj, here's the thing I loved about mj. He would have six Miller Lights.
Bert Kreischer
Well, I didn't really learn. I mean, you know, when I'm 12, I don't realize that, right. I, I, I learned about that. But I'm just saying, like, what you see him do, you're like, this guy's fucking unbelievable. And Tiger became that for golf. So he was like Superman. He was like a Superman where you're like, holy shit. This guy's so amazing. And we've all watched his, you know, his career and his life and all the twists and turns, and I do think it's just one of those things where you go, I really just want this guy to get the best help and be good.
Tom Segura
I don't.
Bert Kreischer
You don't want him to get the help?
Tom Segura
I don't want him. No. Here's the thing. I don't want him to quit drinking.
Bert Kreischer
That's good.
Tom Segura
But I. But I want him to get in control of it.
Bert Kreischer
That's not gonna work for him.
Tom Segura
I know, but, like, I want. It's like, you know, a joke I keep making, and no one gets a reference. And I hope you get the fucking reference because you're married to a fucking roadrul star.
Bert Kreischer
Okay?
Tom Segura
Tiger woods is slowly turning into Ruthie from the real world. Why? Picture of Ruthie. Pull up a picture of Ruthie. Have you. Do you remember Ruthie?
Bert Kreischer
I Remember the name.
Tom Segura
They look identical.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, God.
Tom Segura
Tiger Woods.
Bert Kreischer
Shit, you're right.
Tom Segura
She was the one who. Who in the pilot episode of Hawaii. She got behind the wheel of a car and drove drunk. And they were just following her, weaving around Hawaii. And they're like, what are we supposed to do? Tiger woods and Ruthie?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. I wonder if Ruthie is the same mix as him. He's Thai and black. I wonder what Ruthie is.
Tom Segura
I met Ruthie in real life one time and she was very quiet.
Bert Kreischer
Were you like, how about that six iron? I'd love to see you swing it?
Tom Segura
Ruthie looks good now.
Bert Kreischer
She looks great.
Tom Segura
I wonder if she. But like, some people have, like a legit. That's the one thing I've learned.
Bert Kreischer
But you don't want him.
Tom Segura
But no, because I, I, if I meet Tiger, I want to have beers with him, you know?
Bert Kreischer
Here you go.
Tom Segura
I'm giving this to you. But I am Ari Shafir, okay?
Bert Kreischer
It's a fucking crazy night we're gonna have here.
Tom Segura
Shit's about to go down.
Bert Kreischer
Look.
Tom Segura
And we're here to talk bald. This is a love story. Chlamydia, herpes, gonorrhea, aids.
Guest/Caller
I'm desperate. I'll stab you in your motherfucking arm.
Bert Kreischer
One of the worst things that could happen.
Guest/Caller
What's your favorite Bible verse? I'm like, I don't know any. I'm Catholic. Did you just shit your pants?
Bert Kreischer
It's not.
Tom Segura
Not my shit.
Bert Kreischer
If you're out there, lady, don't call me.
Guest/Caller
I'm the bad guy in the story.
Bert Kreischer
I know that I'll be a better person tomorrow. At least he's consistent.
Tom Segura
Finally, something we can agree on.
Bert Kreischer
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Tom Segura
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Tom Segura
Like, MJ's always had it dialed in.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. But they're not the same though.
Tom Segura
Dude, I could smoke a cigar right now so bad. You want a cigar?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Kyle. Kyle, I have two of the best cigars in the world in my backpack.
Bert Kreischer
Okay.
Tom Segura
Two of the best cigars in the world.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
We need a lighter. And can you cut it with your teeth? I can, sure. Okay. Mj, like, so this is my boredom in sobriety, which is not bad. It's not bad.
Bert Kreischer
Okay.
Tom Segura
But I just go and I watch documentaries. I just watch documentaries at night. And I thought, I want to learn about stuff.
Bert Kreischer
Mm.
Tom Segura
It's so cool when you know people that know. Like, I don't know anything about coffee. I don't know anything about coffee. And the other day I was like, why wouldn't I want to learn about coffee?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And so I. And Kyle knows nothing about anything. He doesn't know anything. That's good.
Bert Kreischer
That's great.
Tom Segura
Like, he knows so little about everything.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
That it's. It'll. It's mind blowing. As a matter of fact, sometimes I'll be with people. Yeah. And I'll say something. And then Leanne will go, how much you want about Kyle to know what that is? Like, name something. And I guarantee when Kyle comes in, he's like, I've never heard of that. He had never heard of Jekyll and Hyde.
Bert Kreischer
He never heard the expression never.
Tom Segura
He didn't know what it was.
Bert Kreischer
And it's basically like that for everything.
Tom Segura
Yeah. And so. And so I said to him, because he was making me Iced coffees on the road. And about maybe 150 times, I said, hey, you don't just make a cup of coffee and pour it on ice. It's done differently. Tell him to bring my backpack. If he's confused. Tell him to bring my backpack. He is confused right now. He's going through my backpack. He's panicking, and he's like, I don't know. We don't have the box of cigars. They're in a.
Bert Kreischer
Definitely bring the backpack.
Tom Segura
Bring the backpack. Tell Kyle to bring my backpack in and get a lighter.
Bert Kreischer
Okay, So what other things you think he's not aware of? When you're like, everything. Everything. I mean, geography.
Tom Segura
He last today, he said Kyle.
Bert Kreischer
Okay, Kyle. What name the continents?
Tom Segura
He's actually. He's actually very. He's actually very civic, social, smart.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, there you go.
Tom Segura
He watches the news. He could tell you what's going on in Israel, Palestine. Because he's ex military, and so you're ex military?
Bert Kreischer
Yes. What. What branch were you in?
Tom Segura
Army. Okay, don't get too deep into it. You start. You start.
Bert Kreischer
Were you stationed abroad?
Tom Segura
No, nothing. No combat climates.
Bert Kreischer
Okay. Do you know the continents? North America, South America, Asia. Wait, are you guys talking about Israel and Palestine? Oh, my God. Did I hear anything about Israel and Palestine? Oh, my God. Keep it above board.
Tom Segura
Sorry.
Bert Kreischer
Okay. And so, I mean, just for the record, you know, he named four continents.
Tom Segura
Yeah. No, he. He just. Like, we were talking about coffee, and I said, he didn't know what an espresso was. He thought an espresso was an Americano. I said, no, Americano is a shot of espresso. It's an American coffee. Espresso is probably the norm for coffee. And so we had to. And then I was like, well, I don't know what the fuck a macchiato is. Macchiato is. Do you know what macchiato is?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, yeah, you have the espresso, and it's like, mostly like a.
Tom Segura
It's on top.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, it's on top. It's usually like, you could do it with foam or you can add a little bit of milk. Yeah. Okay. I mean, so far, I would say you're not painting him to be, like, somebody who doesn't know anything.
Tom Segura
He didn't know how to use the word. Etc.
Bert Kreischer
Well, how did he use it?
Tom Segura
I woke up. Etc. Okay, you know. Etc. What are you gonna. What do you guys want? Sir, what would you like for dinner? Just. Etc.
Bert Kreischer
Stop.
Tom Segura
No, it wasn't that bad.
Bert Kreischer
Okay?
Tom Segura
He. I'm so excited for these cigars. So like mj. So like, I didn't know anything about cigars, dude. Cigars. Cigars shut down, Tom. They were. They lost their popularity. In 1992, cigar aficionado came out and it revitalized the cigar industry.
Bert Kreischer
The magazine did.
Tom Segura
The magazine revitalized the cigar industry.
Bert Kreischer
Is that real?
Tom Segura
You guys got like, you got guys like MJ and Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bruce Willis all smoking cigars. And then all of a sudden the scar industry is huge. And you realize guys like Rocky Patel, they just started getting into cigars recently, like within the last 20 years. They're not like families like Arturo Fuente is.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
But like, this is Don Pepin, I think makes all of my fathers and tatoaje. And I think the guy from Tatoirehe, I think he married it. I mean, I don't know, I'm still researching, but he's a fucking interesting dude. That's a brand new type of cigar.
Bert Kreischer
It's great.
Tom Segura
These are, these are really expensive.
Bert Kreischer
You know my, you know my neighbor
Tom Segura
Mike, I love, I wish he was in cigar.
Bert Kreischer
They did a profile on him on a cigar fish now.
Tom Segura
I would love to hang out with your neighbor now. He's fantastic because he had a cigar. He had a cigar room.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Like when you go into a cigar shop. For people listening. When you go into a cigar shop and then you open the walk in
Bert Kreischer
humidor, he's got that.
Tom Segura
Yeah, he's an interesting guy. He doesn't drink.
Bert Kreischer
No, but he loves his cigars, dude. And they did a profile on him, like a whole spread on him, Mike. Good guy.
Tom Segura
Really good guy. Michael Jordan's on doing an interview with Cigar Aficionado and they bring him like Cuban cigars from Cuba before the embargo, like they've been aged. I think he's smoking two at a time, drinking whiskey just like this.
Bert Kreischer
He loves fucking cigars, dude.
Tom Segura
But I love that. That's why I don't want Tiger to stop drinking. Because I do want him to be able to get after it, you know?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
What are you gonna do? You're gonna be sober at what, 50?
Bert Kreischer
Bert? He's gotta be. It's a. It's only downhill if he doesn't stop. Yeah, for him. Yeah.
Tom Segura
Just gotta get rid of pills, dude. Pills are bad because no one knows you do them.
Bert Kreischer
Tiger, if you're listening, don't listen to him, Tiger.
Tom Segura
I'm here for you. I got your back, buddy.
Bert Kreischer
Well, we're all here for.
Tom Segura
And if you need, if you need a place to dip out. And. And you don't want to hear any rules. And no one's want. You don't want to hear what anyone says to you. I'm your guy.
Bert Kreischer
It's basically, like, textbook. I'm an enabler if you want one.
Tom Segura
I think Leanne might be an enabler.
Bert Kreischer
No shit.
Tom Segura
She's never told me to quit drinking. And there's a couple times where I'm like, you should have told me.
Bert Kreischer
Really?
Tom Segura
I'm like. But she's always like, it's just about your health. And then I go. I got like, you don't realize how fat you are until you see fat pictures. Did you see the picture I posted today of my first pitch for the Reds game? Reason why I did the first pitch. Yes, like two days ago for the Reds, and I did not look as fat as I did the other day.
Bert Kreischer
Well, I remember the viral one.
Tom Segura
I just posted her on Instagram, pulled up.
Bert Kreischer
You did the viral one where your stomach looked like its own. Had its own orbit and everything going on. Turtle, that was crazy. Yeah, that one was pretty nuts. Unblock. They blocked you.
Tom Segura
You guys blocked me. Did not know about this. Why would you guys block me? I have no idea.
Bert Kreischer
Okay. Oh. Oh, bro. Holy shit.
Tom Segura
Before and before.
Bert Kreischer
Thanks. But look at. Look at August 23rd, dude. Look how that's crazy. And how. How'd the pitch go?
Tom Segura
Oh, it was great.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah?
Tom Segura
Yeah. I bought, like, three baseball gloves, and then we had a catch for, like, an hour the day before.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
So that I was dialed in. It's kind of crazy when you think you're, like, when you watch. I was watching the Masters the other. The other week, and I was like, it's crazy that you can hit a golf ball from one place to another place in four shots and get it into a hole.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Like, that's insane.
Bert Kreischer
It's insane.
Tom Segura
And it's insane. When you watch Aaron Judge this, by the way. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
I did this for a minor league game. I never played baseball. Like, I never played baseball. I've never. I can tell you, I've almost never had that level of anxiety.
Tom Segura
It's terrifying, right? It's almost not worth it.
Bert Kreischer
Terr. And I was at a. It was a packed game, but it's minor league, so it's not, like, broadcast on. Yeah, man. The anxiety was. I was scared. So scared, dude. I was like, I can't. And thank God it went well, but I was.
Tom Segura
Wait, how did you. How did it go? My pit. My pitch went pretty good on this one, but it went great.
Bert Kreischer
Also, you know what threw me off was like, I bought a ball too. And I was practicing, and then when I got to the. To the mound, you know, they told you tell you where to stand right in front. And then the guy announces me and the guy catching who's like just being. He's like. He's like, you know, tell me when he hears my name, he goes, no way. And I go, yeah. He goes, for real? And I'm like, I'm supposed to pitch right now. Like, stop talking to me, you know? So he threw me off and I was like. He goes, that's really you? I go, yeah. He's like yelling it. And I go, yeah, just let me do this. He's like, bro, I'm a huge fan. I go, thanks. Let me fucking throw the. And now I'm like taking myself out of. Freaked me out, dude.
Tom Segura
I was like, I did not know who I was, right?
Bert Kreischer
He was like.
Tom Segura
He goes, I'm sorry, man. I don't know who you are. I'm 29. And I went, that doesn't mean anything to me. Like, yeah, dude, 20. What age do you think you age out of Coachella?
Bert Kreischer
Of Coachella.
Tom Segura
Because I'm watching Coachella. Shit.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, I. It's gone.
Tom Segura
Like, what age do you think you go, that's not for me anymore.
Bert Kreischer
I've. I've been in that era. Whatever it is, I'm in it. It's definitely not for me, really. I mean, I wouldn't want to.
Tom Segura
It's not interest in any of the people. I don't know who. Karen or Maria, whatever her name is.
Bert Kreischer
Clearly,
Tom Segura
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Tom Segura
The whole. It just seems like. It seems like one big club where everyone's in line. Everyone's in line for the whole thing.
Bert Kreischer
Couldn't do it.
Tom Segura
I find it fucking. I find so much shit. Okay, so you know Feidelberg, right?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
He's on the bus and he starts reading texts, and I have no frame of context, and he's like, wait, have you. Do you know who these are from? I was like, what?
Bert Kreischer
This is the.
Tom Segura
This is that influencer's sister.
Bert Kreischer
Wait, but set this up first.
Tom Segura
Okay, so. So there's an influencer named Noah Beck. Noah Beck.
Bert Kreischer
Well, who is. I don't know who that is.
Tom Segura
I don't know. Can you tell us who Noah Beck is? I'm sure he does makeup stuff.
Bert Kreischer
Makeup.
Tom Segura
Big tiktoker. And he's also been in a bunch
Bert Kreischer
of these, like, kind of shows, like, sidelined.
Tom Segura
I think he was in Baywatch reboot.
Bert Kreischer
But just big young influencer. Okay.
Tom Segura
Is that him with his shirt off?
Bert Kreischer
He's a huge fan of yours.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God.
Bert Kreischer
Right there. He's like. They call me the machine.
Tom Segura
So his sister is a. Is a teacher.
Bert Kreischer
Okay.
Tom Segura
I think she's like 29 or something.
Bert Kreischer
Okay.
Tom Segura
And she's dating a cop and she starts an affair with this kid, a kid at the school who I think
Bert Kreischer
also where she's teaching.
Tom Segura
Where she's teaching.
Bert Kreischer
Okay.
Tom Segura
And I think these are from. These are released. And he was reading these out loud. This is a child texting with the teacher.
Bert Kreischer
Let's read. You have to you gotta play the girl or the kid. Play the girl. I'll be the kid. You're Haley.
Tom Segura
Okay, but then. But then said, ooh, freak. If my shit was weak, then what's the point?
Bert Kreischer
Even cry me a river. This is crazy that a high school kid is saying cry me a river to an adult woman. Right?
Tom Segura
When are you gonna come home to visit then? Nah, no need for me to. I'll just cry or suck your dick, and you can shut the fuck up about it.
Bert Kreischer
Okay, then, the next series of messages. Haley and this kid discuss Angela Berlaca, okay.
Tom Segura
In a group with Barlaka for our meeting. Feels so wrong.
Bert Kreischer
Then I laugh. It feels so wrong.
Tom Segura
What was the pic you sent of me over snap? Like, what did they say?
Bert Kreischer
I don't know.
Tom Segura
Hmm. I thought it saved it, but I guess I didn't, so never mind. Wait, you got to get to the one. Get to the.
Bert Kreischer
We're building. We're building. Okay, those pics are funny.
Tom Segura
Funny why? Oh, let me guess. I was a beluga in the first few, bro.
Bert Kreischer
My sophomore year, you were 1 billion percent overweight. And now.
Tom Segura
Now.
Bert Kreischer
And now you look fire, like. Oh, let me guess. I was a beluga. Oh, I like that. Okay, man. Ain't that right?
Tom Segura
Yeah, but you still fuck me. You still fuck with me then, like, as a person?
Bert Kreischer
Negative. You was a cool teacher.
Tom Segura
Is my only year good, then? Is my 1:1 this year good, then?
Bert Kreischer
And my current teacher?
Tom Segura
Or better, at least. You're telling me you wouldn't have tried me back then solely because of the teacher aspect?
Bert Kreischer
No, not at all. Because it would have been like, she's not even a flex. She's rough. Right?
Tom Segura
Right. But I was cool.
Bert Kreischer
And then. I like that.
Tom Segura
All right, be nice.
Bert Kreischer
And then you asked. Same way I think about Ms. B. Jesus Christ. If she was a little more fit, I would have died in the
Tom Segura
bro. She's also 50, though.
Bert Kreischer
But she's too damn big for me. Age is just a number, baby. She's starving for the young dick. Jesus Christ.
Tom Segura
I know. He's texting his teacher. I mean, yeah, I guess, but even our situation is still not right. At least we're closer in age. I don't like being compared to Ms. B. Nah.
Bert Kreischer
100% tad more normalized. Like, if I'm 25 and you're 33, who cares? But if I'm 25 and she's 55. Holy Gilf. Luckily, I haven't cracked her, so.
Tom Segura
Yeah, I haven't cracked her. Yeah, right. This sounds way more normal. Like older woman go, you sick. Sick. I can't even think of look at with what is. Make it bigger. I can't even look at her without thinking of her literal vagina.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, right, right.
Tom Segura
What's 1, 2, 1 2, 1 2, 1, 2?
Bert Kreischer
I don't know. And then Haley says, I'm glad you still referred to me as your sugar mama. I thought my services were being retired. And then the kid says, yep, lifelong side piece.
Tom Segura
He sucks. Lifelong 12. I'm gonna get sick side piece. Eventually. I'm gonna get sick of side piece. Eventually. I need to upgrade a title. Eight hours of meetings today. I'm actually gonna kill myself.
Bert Kreischer
Well, that's not my decision.
Tom Segura
What?
Bert Kreischer
You're the old lady here. If you seek a relationship your age, I can't be anything other than your side piece. You're playing with fire, not me. God damn. How is this kid this adjusted?
Tom Segura
These kids can't be white, right?
Bert Kreischer
I don't fucking know.
Tom Segura
This too much game for a white kid. I knew too many white kids. They don't talk like this.
Bert Kreischer
This next exchange is insane. When she says, you think. You think I'll still fuck with you.
Tom Segura
Fuck with you even when I'm in a relationship.
Bert Kreischer
100% dick to fire.
Tom Segura
I was going to ask if you still with me if I was. Were in one. But literally you did. But you literally did.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, I mean, I haven't been locked in a relationship, but technically I am, so I guess you can say that I don't really care, to be honest. I cheat.
Tom Segura
You are.
Bert Kreischer
Like, again, when I come home, I'm gonna see her for sure. She like a sloth on the tree. She's not letting go.
Tom Segura
Your roomie went in on the action too.
Guest/Caller
What?
Tom Segura
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Bert Kreischer
Wow. You really are just a bucket. Like you would dead do this shit.
Tom Segura
I feel like you're insane. A bucket, bro. He could literally. He could very well be a miner. And I would never do this for a stranger.
Bert Kreischer
And then it's just 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2. What is that? What is that? I think that might be like the code for, like the emojis or something. Oh, I got you. I got you. Okay, cool. Sounds good to me. Then she sends a screenshot, a screenshot of lyrics with the caption, forget teenage dream, this is my new song to you. The screenshot lyrics are the following. You can hit in the morning. In the morning? Yeah, like it's yours. I know it ain't right, but I don't care. Break up with your Girlfriend. Yeah, yeah. Cause I'm bored. Break up with your girlfriend by Ariana Grande. And then the kid writes Jesus Christ.
Tom Segura
Hehehe. Oh relax, live a little.
Bert Kreischer
And then in this next thread, she thanks the guy. The kid thanks Hayley for everything she has done. Haley responded by questioning why he was thanking her, so it felt like a goodbye. She then mentions beat them cheeks up and their last hurrah. Thank you for all the things you do and have done. Click the accept though I'm at the counter 12.
Tom Segura
Why are you thanking me and making me feel it seems like we're done with me.
Bert Kreischer
Nah, I'm just. No. Not fitting to be as available because I'm gone.
Tom Segura
Send Apple cash. Yeah, no, I know this is. But I'm still available over text. You can call, you know, I'll see you this weekend or when you're available for our temporary last hurrah.
Bert Kreischer
Okay. And then he likes that comment and he goes, yeah, but not regularly.
Tom Segura
Maybe when I come home. What's that?
Bert Kreischer
I'm coming to beat.
Tom Segura
I'm gonna. When I. When I come home, I'm gonna beat them cheeks up. Quote unquote. That's what I. That's where I got the impression. Lol.
Bert Kreischer
Haha. Maybe that's funny.
Tom Segura
Nah, you know, I have some stuff to do and maybe people to see. Don't forget about your sugar mama.
Bert Kreischer
And then it looks like this next thing is that during this time the kid was actively avoiding police. The following is what her.
Tom Segura
Her boyfriend's. I think they were coming to his house.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, here, let me get this ashtray real quick. Oh yeah, just
Tom Segura
this kid is 17, 18 years old and he's talking. This guy's got kids, got wild game. Do we have a picture of him? He's got to be a minor.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, that's why his name's redacted.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Oh, so he's a minor. He's 17.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, he's a minor.
Tom Segura
Holy shit. I couldn't talk to girls my age like this. Yeah, I still can't talk to my wife like this. This kid needs to be an influencer. You hear about the manosphere. This kid should be running the manosphere.
Bert Kreischer
I get. I cannot imagine in high school being like, bitch, you know, I mean, this dick is what you want. Like, I cannot imagine that this like a kid that can talk like this to a grown woman.
Tom Segura
He text one John was reading where he's like, yo, pick me up from the airport and devour my shit. And she was like, isn't your dad gonna be there? And he's like, we can do it in the car. She was like, I'd rather do it inside. And he goes, or in the car,
Bert Kreischer
like telling her, this is what I got time for.
Tom Segura
I mean, that's crazy.
Bert Kreischer
It's really crazy.
Tom Segura
But I think the kid might need some help on how he might need therapy.
Bert Kreischer
You think?
Tom Segura
Like, he's not. No, not just for fucking an older woman, but like the way he talks to people.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, also, you're not like born like that. This kid has learned.
Tom Segura
This kid's a lot of chicks. Yeah, a lot of chicks. Yeah. Wait, can you. He's Talking to a 17 year old girl like this too.
Bert Kreischer
He's talking to.
Tom Segura
Right.
Bert Kreischer
He's talking to a girl like that and he's Talking to a 29 year old like this. Yeah. What the. Yeah, he's.
Tom Segura
I couldn't talk to a 79 year old woman like that.
Bert Kreischer
Well, that would be a fun thing
Tom Segura
if I was like, yo, pick me up. And I'm beat up that to an old lady. I mean, well, you gotta figure, how is she? She's gotta be attractive. They're always hot.
Bert Kreischer
Well, he called her a fucking pig. Sophomore year.
Tom Segura
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Tom Segura
She's not bad.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, this is the woman that he was like. Nah, you was nasty back there. Yeah, and then she was seeking his approval. It's twisted man. That's really.
Tom Segura
There's so much that goes into that. Yeah, it's crazy that if that had been a guy and a girl immediately like what a fucking piece of shit he is. But as a girl you're like, I kind of feel bad for her.
Bert Kreischer
You do A little bit.
Tom Segura
Like clearly there's something off.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, there's something off, but she's an adult fucking with a minor.
Tom Segura
But what. I know, but what is that there's something broken in a woman who chases a young boy. There's something broken in them for sure. Clearly there's something broken in an older dude chasing a young woman. But it's so much more acceptable.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, but not with minors. But like there's a, there's a line.
Tom Segura
But no, but like you.
Bert Kreischer
I am a 55 year old guy and a 22 year old girl. Yeah. You're like, this guy is. He's fucking lost.
Tom Segura
I could, but like I could never struggle with conversations.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, of course.
Tom Segura
Like I have just like I was on the bus with Katherine blandford who's like 3:30 something and I was talking about the Honeymooners and she didn't know who the honeymooners were. And I was like, how do you not know the Honeymooners? She was like, what is it?
Bert Kreischer
I was like, like the original sitcom.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Nothing. And so like that, that, that generationally, they just don't know. Like we only had a few options on tv. They all have TikTok and so they're. Everything's in their hand. They don't give a. About anything in the past.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, but that also, that applies like what you're talking about. That also applies if you talk to someone six years older than you, they'll reference TV shows that you're like, I don't know what that is.
Tom Segura
Yeah, but, but we, we kind of, we kind of knew what they were talking about. Like, I mean, I knew Abbott and Costello.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, but I'm saying like people have a specific window of like what, what is their entertainment? And it's usually it correlates directly like what age you are for this year. And if it's like, you know, I hear people reference shows that I'm like, I get that. That's a show. I have no, I've never seen it. You know, it wasn't on when I was a kid.
Tom Segura
The lady who played Coachella this year, what's her name? Sabrina Carpenter.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Never heard one thing she's done in my entire life. Yeah, I mean I, I couldn't. If she bumped into me, I wouldn't know who she was.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, that makes sense. That makes sense.
Tom Segura
I mean, I don't know. Like, I. I know Justin Bieber. He's a thing.
Bert Kreischer
He's been around for, like, you know, decades. We kind of grew up with him, too.
Tom Segura
Yeah. I mean, he's. I know Ed. Ed Sheeran.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
But, like, I couldn't tell you.
Bert Kreischer
I saw him in concert.
Tom Segura
You saw Ed Sheeran in concert?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
I kind of like Ed Sheeran. I like him a lot.
Bert Kreischer
I was on the road and they were like, he's got a concert tonight. You want to go? I go, yeah.
Tom Segura
For real?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. And it was like, he was. I mean, impressive.
Tom Segura
He's the guy that started the. The, like, play a couple chords and then hit it. Right.
Bert Kreischer
Like, I mean, I don't know if he started it, but he. He. My God. Yeah. He puts together songs in front of you, like, with the looper and like. Yeah. It's incredible.
Tom Segura
Dude. I've been running to drum and bass lately.
Bert Kreischer
You've been running to drum and bass?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
What do you mean?
Tom Segura
Just going for a jog and then putting in. Boom, boom.
Bert Kreischer
That's all you're listening to?
Tom Segura
Yeah. And it just. You just get onto a great. Like, I think it's like 140 beats per minute.
Bert Kreischer
Do you ever forget you can make a new playlist? Like, sometimes I'll go to, like, run or to the gym and I'll be like, putting on. I'm like, man, I'm fucking sick of this. Yeah. I only have these playlists.
Tom Segura
Have you ever listen.
Bert Kreischer
Build a new one.
Tom Segura
Have you ever listened to Girl Talk?
Bert Kreischer
What, the podcast?
Tom Segura
No. Girl Talk.
Bert Kreischer
I don't know.
Tom Segura
No. Girl Talk is like a DJ out of Pittsburgh.
Bert Kreischer
Oh.
Tom Segura
And he is. He does. Tom, you would love Girl Talk.
Bert Kreischer
It is a podcast, by the way.
Tom Segura
No, it isn't. What do you mean?
Bert Kreischer
It just. That was the second result. First result.
Tom Segura
Oh, yeah, I guess it is. There's too many podcasts. No, there's too many pot. And by the way, there's too many good ones. So, like, at least suck. Like, I saw two Scottish people the other day, and I was like, there's no way this is gonna be good.
Bert Kreischer
It was.
Tom Segura
It was fucking incredible. Yeah, they were doing all right. Top 10 crisps. I didn't even know anything.
Bert Kreischer
You listen to him as you run, dude.
Tom Segura
Girl Talk all day is. I'm in the fuck all day and feed the animals, Tom. It's hip hop to rock beats. It's so fucking good. I think I might start going to EDM concerts with, like, A pacifier in my mouth.
Bert Kreischer
Are you gonna roll? Will you do. Will you do Molly?
Tom Segura
Yeah. I'm so healthy right now. I could do anything.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, try something else. I could do coke, do pcp.
Tom Segura
I heard a bad story about that.
Bert Kreischer
I've never heard one.
Tom Segura
Really?
Bert Kreischer
No, I have.
Tom Segura
Did you see Andy Dick? Andy Dick was talking. He's like, they gave me a glass pipe. I thought it was marijuana. Turns out it was fentanyl.
Bert Kreischer
Nobody. Jesus.
Tom Segura
I know.
Bert Kreischer
And I was like, somebody, nobody has better what do drugs do to people stories than Dr. Drew. And I've asked him, like, every time I see him, I'll just ask him drug questions. I'll never forget that he said. He said one. Obviously there's lots of differences to drugs, but he goes, one of the observations you make about people on coke versus people on pcp, he goes, people on coke run from men in uniform, like, from the police, right? Co coke. People go see cops and they go, I'm going this way. And he goes, people on PCP go towards them. Like, they're like, what's the up? I'll take all you guys. He's like, he's like, people on coke, they'll see a cop walking down the hallway of like, a hotel and they'll jump out the window. And people on PC will be like, I'm going to take your gun. They said, like, over and over again.
Tom Segura
How do we not give that to our fucking soldiers in war?
Bert Kreischer
Pcp.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. I don't know, man.
Tom Segura
It's just low grade. Pcp.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Like, what's craziest to me is like.
Bert Kreischer
And by the way, tiger, right?
Tom Segura
What?
Bert Kreischer
Tiger?
Tom Segura
Yeah, on pcp. Can you imagine how great he'd golf?
Bert Kreischer
Oh, my God. That's gotta be the secret to it all.
Tom Segura
But what's crazy to me is like, you know, I get. All I get are sobriety stories in my feed now. Cause that's all anyone does. How many people are crazy addicted to Kratom? A lot. You've done Kratom? Yeah. So we used to promote Kratom on the podcast.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, here's the thing. I met somebody who told me about their significant other needing it, like, needs it daily. And then I did kind of clock how you feel. I was like, oh, there's like a. A thing where I don't know if it. If it attaches itself to your opioid receptors, but there is kind of like some euphoric adjacent feeling. I'm not an expert. I'm just telling you about the feeling. What I Think it was strange.
Tom Segura
What I think is interesting is sober people. I don't want to get into the weeds on who these people are, but like orthodox Jewish people who don't really drink or do drugs, they go to these kratom kava kava bars and get kratom or kava drinks and they're like, no, they're awesome. And they're like, you're sober, you should try one of these. I'm sober, I don't drink. But these Kratom drinks are amazing.
Bert Kreischer
Does it attach to your opioid receptors? Kratom. Will you look that up? Because there is like a feeling that's kind of. It's semi muted, but you can't ignore it. I think when you. Yes, Kratom does interact with opioid receptors. The main active compounds in Kratom bind to opioid receptors in the brain. They are the same receptors targeted by drugs like morphine and oxy. At a higher dose, it acts more like an opioid. At lower doses, it has a stimulant, like effect. See, I've had low doses.
Tom Segura
But you see, we used to have a sponsor that would tell us to take Kratom before you worked out.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And I remember you were taking it before you worked out. You're like, no, it's great. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
I was like, man, I'm ready to fucking. Let's get after it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. I mean, do you think it's going
Tom Segura
to be like that with everything? Like, like. Because everyone does ketamine now. Yeah, everyone's got a ketamine pen.
Bert Kreischer
I haven't done that.
Tom Segura
You haven't done ketamine? How have you not done ketamine? I haven't. Seems like it's right up your alley.
Bert Kreischer
Really? How so?
Tom Segura
It's a disassociate. You love being disassociated.
Bert Kreischer
What the that supposed to be like,
Tom Segura
you just like to not connect. Don't you feel like that's who you are? Like, And I never understood that where you go? I could go home. And then I stopped drinking and I went, no, it makes sense.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Why am I gonna go here? I don't want to. When am I gonna talk to people? Yeah, I'll just go home.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, I only did this because you're right.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
So wait. It helps you disconnect.
Tom Segura
It's a disassociate. So, like, whatever the fuck you think is happening that may be giving you drama, it just makes it go away.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, interesting.
Tom Segura
What does ketamine do? It's an out of body sensation. Dreamlike out of body sensation distorts your perception of time and space. Euphoria, calmness, visual and auditory distortions.
Bert Kreischer
Higher doses and you may enter a K hole. Intense dissociation, feeling detached for reality.
Tom Segura
Right.
Bert Kreischer
I'm only laughing because I remember this post on Instagram of somebody who, I guess they're on vacation and they return to their room, you could probably do a search and find this. And they find a hotel worker on their bed.
Tom Segura
Oh, I saw that. I saw that.
Bert Kreischer
And they're like, this poor guy found my bag. He must have thought it was coke or something. And he's in a cake and he's on the bed and he's like, he's. And then they show him getting like helped up and his face is like twisted and they're like, he found my back. This is the guy.
Tom Segura
That's it. Yeah. He found a bag, he thought it was cocaine and he took a hit.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. And that's how they found him in their room.
Tom Segura
Oh my God.
Bert Kreischer
He's wearing. Come back from breakfast to find the cleaner, found bag of K. Thought it was snow. Found him in a K hole in the room. That is nuts, bro.
Tom Segura
That's a big thing with. You ever see that?
Bert Kreischer
Look at his twisted ass face here. Dude. Like this is how he's supposed to go back to work right now. That's the guy at work who obviously came to help him get ready.
Tom Segura
Oh, God.
Bert Kreischer
Holy shit. He doesn't know what's going on. That's in tulum. That was hilarious.
Tom Segura
You ever see the video of the British kids out in the park? Oh, it's almost like serial killer creepy. They're like silly pikey. He wanted a head of coke, so we gave him a hit of coke. Little did he know it's ketamine. And you just see this like Irish traveler on the ground going. And they're like, ah, guess what you get, buddy. It's almost creepy that you would do that to someone. See if you can see Irish traveler K hole. I guarantee you you gotta be able to find it. But it's like that's.
Bert Kreischer
What are the risks and dangers. Let's look at those.
Tom Segura
You pass out in the hot tub. Well, yeah, that's the K. The ketamine queen just got taken out.
Bert Kreischer
Traffic water. Yeah. Can slow breathing if you mix it with something. While not identical to opioids, it can be addictive. Anything else below that? Bladder, kidney damage, painful urination.
Tom Segura
This how Matthew Perry died.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah. Panic, paranoia, unknown purity. Yeah.
Tom Segura
Let Me tell you something. If I found out ketamine was healthy, like, it wasn't.
Bert Kreischer
You did it. You've done it.
Tom Segura
No, I've never done it, but if it could help me flying, I'd do it.
Bert Kreischer
Really?
Tom Segura
Dude, I just want to fucking be cool.
Bert Kreischer
Why don't you go get a kd? A kd? A ketamine treatment, like where it's like under someone's guidance and about that.
Tom Segura
Hold on.
Bert Kreischer
What?
Tom Segura
What a great lead into a story.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, okay.
Tom Segura
So I'm doing a photo shoot for Flamingo magazine.
Bert Kreischer
What?
Tom Segura
Flamingo magazine. It's a Florida based magazine. My friend is the editor in chief and she was like, yo, you know, everything Florida. I support anything Florida. I'm fucking Florida. Florida, Florida.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
So they come to the house and they're like, we're gonna do four setups. And I was like, great, beautiful. I. I wanna, I would love to have her tell her story better. Beautiful photographer, gorgeous. She goes to take a picture and she goes, I can't really bend down. Can you guys get me an apple box? And I was like, what? And she was like, ever since my fall. I said, when did you fall? She goes, well, interesting story. I was dealing with some depression, so I went in for a ketamine treatment and I ended up jumping off a 10 story building.
Bert Kreischer
That's not a fall.
Tom Segura
She said she's taking ketamine. She says, by the way, these are all allegedly because it's her story. I'm sure there's a lawsuit happening. And I'm not saying names. She's like, I went to go to the bathroom. And in the process of going to the bathroom, I went to the top of the building and I jumped off the building. Her mom was in the lobby waiting for her. Some woman walked in crying and was like, oh my God. I just watched a woman jump off the building. And her mom's like, well, that's interesting. What was she wearing? Describes it. She was like, that's what my daughter was wearing. Then.
Bert Kreischer
That's a crazy question to ask. What, that jumper. What were they wearing?
Tom Segura
And that is kind of a weird question, but both of her shins went out of her knees, out of her legs. They both shin, both shins. She has scars on both shins. She has a huge data. Do a tracheotomy on her. She landed in a planter. Her head came out of the back of her head. I think she broke. She woke up tomorrow like, like four weeks later in a hospital bed from just from doing ketamine. Was like, what Happened. And they're like, you jumped off a building.
Bert Kreischer
Crazy thing when you're like, well, was I in a car accident? And they're like, no, you tried to fucking kill yourself.
Tom Segura
And she was like, but she was like, I didn't. I. She was like, I was high on ketamine. And so I was like, holy shit. And then, by the way, I just said like, why can't you bend over? She's like, crazy story. Now everyone is just sitting there at this photo shoot, just listening. She's like, yeah, so my shins went out of my legs. My arm went on my arm. And. And she's like, luckily, she's gorgeous.
Bert Kreischer
You mentioned it.
Tom Segura
She goes, luckily, I didn't land on my face. Yeah, she's not. Not one scratch on her face. She looks perfect. And I was like, holy shit. And then, of course, I then proceed to. And then my next question is, when was the first time you had sex after jumping off that bowl?
Bert Kreischer
That was your question?
Tom Segura
And she was like, another great question. And everyone just goes, huh? She was like, okay. So turns out Delta 9, if you have bipolar, makes you manic. And so I was on a manic episode, and I eat one Delta 9 thing for a flight, and next thing you know, 10 days later, I'm eating, and it's like. I mean, unpacked. I love when people overshare.
Bert Kreischer
And she overshared.
Tom Segura
What the sex about? She had sex with some guy who wakes up every morning and curses God. He was in a fucking. I mean, it was like, as she would tell, every story she said was, like, better and better. And then I was like, we haven't
Bert Kreischer
taken a fucking photo yet.
Tom Segura
I was like, leanne, we didn't. We hadn't taken a photo. And I was like, leanne, please get her on your podcast. She was like, I wrote a book.
Bert Kreischer
And I was like, ah, amazing. Amazing. What do we want to say? Oh, Doug Stanhope. Have you seen his city council thing?
Tom Segura
No. And I know everything. Doug Stanhope, pull it up. What do you mean? Doug Stanhope did what?
Bert Kreischer
It's cool. He went to.
Tom Segura
Wait. Oh, that's not him.
Bert Kreischer
Because. Because I guess the. The town. He lives in the comedy club Coat Comedy club closed. Like, that's the catalyst for him going to the. To this city council meeting. Dan Hope showed up to a city hall meeting in Brisby, Arizona, with a new plan for the comedians in town following the closure of their only comedy club in March after the owner of
Tom Segura
Chuckleheads killed both himself and his wife's father. Not in that order.
Guest/Caller
As you probably heard in the scuttle butt at work, my estranged best friend of 35 years, the owner of Chuckleheads, did this crazy murder suicide thing, tried to kill his ex wife, killed her father on her birthday. Chuckleheads. Oh, I'm sorry. Affordable housing is not as funny as this. But what it did, it left a gaping hole in the comedy community. I know this is an artist community, but comedy is kind of like the stepchild, excuse the R word there. The special needs stepchild of the arts. There's a gaping hole left. The same gaping hole that was in Matt Becker's head when he took his own life. Comedy world. And I tell every up and coming comic, hey, get as much stage time as you can wherever you can get it. That's how you exceed in comedy. And then I realized, oh, shoot. You get three minutes timed every first and third Tuesday. We're turning this into an open mic until you change the rules. There is a comedy show called Kill Tony. It's the biggest comedy thing. They sell out Madison Square Garden where a comic can just get his name pulled out of a hat. He has one minute. And they travel from Los Angeles to Austin to do this Kill Tony show. I implore every comedian on your way from Los Angeles to Austin to stop by every first and third Tuesday. Don't worry, Mr. Budge. They call you a lame duck, but I've never seen you smile more. In 28 seconds, I've talked to the next mayor at the farmer's market and she's all aboard with this. Yes, comics on your way from LA to Austin, Texas, come by and do Kill Bisbee council if you can make them laugh. God love you. Thank you. And let's have some fun with the cows.
Tom Segura
He's great.
Bert Kreischer
That was fantastic.
Tom Segura
He's my favorite Doug Stanhope. And I'm sure I've shared this, but it deserves to be shared again. My favorite Doug Stanhope story is when he got in trouble, I think in Des Moines when a lady wrote in a complaint to Doug going, sir, you are atrocious. Everything you mentioned tonight was one of the worst things I've ever heard. Abortion, making fun of special needs people. I will be reporting you to your agent, to your manager, to the Better Business Bureau, and I will make sure that you never work again. And he wrote back. I could not agree more. He goes, when I got the script for that evening's show, I was appalled. But to do my job right, I had to read exactly what the club had written for me to say, that's so Funny. And the woman wrote back. I knew it couldn't have been you,
Bert Kreischer
Dude.
Tom Segura
Stanhope is a 1 of 1.
Bert Kreischer
I mean, that was brilliant. Spin that into that. That was brilliant, man.
Tom Segura
Will we ever get another Stanhope?
Bert Kreischer
No, definitely not. It's one of one.
Tom Segura
You had to have wanted to do comedy. That's like wanting to be a whaler before it was popular, you know?
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Like, you had to. It's like everyone became chefs because of fucking cooking network. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
He's like the Bukowski of. Of. Of stand up, you know?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Like, there's not. There's nobody else like that.
Tom Segura
He's. He's such a fascinating fucking guy. And I knew Matt Becker.
Bert Kreischer
You did?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Did you play that place? Did you go there?
Tom Segura
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure I did, because I used to go there all the time. I used to go down. I think it was just. I. I think. Yeah, I'm sure I did. I used to go down there and take time off and just hang out. Remember the time his girlfriend ran away with me?
Bert Kreischer
What?
Tom Segura
Yeah. I woke up one morning, and I was supposed to go to the airport, and Bingo was like, hey, you ready? And I was like, are you driving me? She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, Come on, let's go. Don't make any noise. Let's go. I was like, where are we going? She goes, get in the car. Get in the car. So I grabbed my bags, get in the car. And we start driving, and the car's packed with all this shit. I was like, where are you going? She goes, I'm running away. Don't tell anyone. I was like, what? She's like, yeah, I'm running away. And she was going through this, like, mental health crisis, and we drove to the airport, and she gave me a hug. She's like, please don't tell anyone that I'm running away. And I was like, okay. And she drove away, and I called Doug, and I was like, hey, I think Bingo just ran away. He was like, what? I was like, yeah, she took the car, and then they had to find her. I think they found her in, like, Louisiana.
Bert Kreischer
She just started driving, like, days later.
Tom Segura
Days later. They all got into a fucking. Another car. He has, like, 20 cars. He buys cars with 100,000 miles on them and then just drives them until they. And then leaves them there. Just leaves them, Leaves them. And they had to go find Bingo. But it was like a crazy fucking moment, you know? I haven't talked to Doug in. I haven't talked to Doug I haven't talked to Doug in a while, and I texted him the other day because he made a really cool video of him drinking vodka out of a grapefruit. And it looked. With grenadine. It looks so good. I was like, yo, I'm send you a case of Porosos. He was like, great. There was a period where I talked to Doug often, and I missed that. I missed that, I think. And it's my fault. I just don't. I don't reach out to people. I kind of just stay in my own little fucking world. But Doug Stanhope is just. He really is. He's like. You know, he reminds me of Brendan Walsh. You're never. No, I'm not shitting on the comics now, but the comics now, it's about getting famous and getting views and getting clicks. Yeah. I'm not saying that I'm not one of them. I'm not saying I'm not one of them. I'm just saying there is a part of me that got into this business when there wasn't money involved.
Bert Kreischer
That's 100% true.
Tom Segura
And that is. The heroes of this job are the ones. I'm certain he's not a huge fan of mine, but. Even Tim Heidecker. Yeah, Tim Heidecker, he would do this without money and being involved, you know, like, he is just an interesting brain. And Doug and Brendan, and there's so many people that they got into this before there was money involved.
Bert Kreischer
Well, Walsh would do. That's the thing is Walsh would do things that were like. I always love this, where you're like. You learn about one of his. Whatever you want to call it, his setups.
Tom Segura
Prank.
Bert Kreischer
It's not the right word for it, but, like, you know, he would do like a. Like, a Circuit City was closing in la and in, like. I think it was like, in Silver. Like, near Silver Lake. So he just put like, a massive Whole Foods coming soon so that people would be like, oh, that's awesome. Like, they were excited.
Tom Segura
Yeah, coming soon, Whole Foods. And so we're like.
Bert Kreischer
And that was just. That was just to get people excited that he wouldn't. He would. You wouldn't see the payout. You would just know that the community would say, like, oh, I can't. I'm so excited.
Tom Segura
We would.
Bert Kreischer
Like this or not, like. Like, whatever response is like, plus or minus. You don't get to benefit. There's no footage of it. He just knows that he's misinforming a community.
Tom Segura
The joke for him, and then the joke for him was to be at the coffee shop and hear someone go, you know, there's a Whole Foods coming.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And then he would. That was his. That was his job.
Bert Kreischer
And he'd be like, fuck, yeah. That'd be. I can't wait. And. Or. Or like. Or the opposite. When he did the Silver Lake Gun
Tom Segura
Club, what was that?
Bert Kreischer
So Silver Lake, for people that don't know, is a very hipster, very liberal section of a liberal city of Los Angeles. Right. The east side. And very much not a pro gun area.
Tom Segura
No, no.
Bert Kreischer
And so there was a bar that was closing. I think it was MJ's. And he put a sign there that said, silver Lake Gun Club coming soon. Like, that kind of thing. But then he started a website and he did it like HTML, where, like, you just see, like, two bald eagles flying in a flag.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
And then he put a phone number that would go to him so people would call and be like, I do not support. He goes, fucking America. You know, just like, tell them, like, I can do what I want and let. Let them vent and yell. And they'd leave voicemails about how disappointed they are about having a gun club in Silver Lake. Shit like that. Where you're like, this is not for public, really consumption. It's just for his own entertainment. You know, it's for his own amusement. Is just to be funny for the sake of being funny. It's very funny thing to do, even.
Tom Segura
I'm not shitting on myself, but even in moments where I was doing things just to be funny, I always thought, how do I monetize that?
Bert Kreischer
Or how do I show an audience?
Tom Segura
Yeah, how do I show this to more people? Like, the. What will the maid think? I started that as a genuine thing. And then I was like, oh, maybe I'll do a coffee.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, you'd have to find out about his.
Tom Segura
Like, he. They just do it. And. And it. It's so interesting because you know what
Bert Kreischer
he did during COVID What? During COVID he would. Everyone started zooming. Everyone's zooms exploded. And so he would get on, like, these business. I forgot how he would, like, what the pretense was for the zoom, but it would be people in, like, some business, like, or some discussion forum. And then he would hire somebody, like, off of, like, Craigslist. He'd be like, will you join this zoom? I'll give you, like, 40 bucks. And then at some point, just stand up naked with your dick. And so I saw a recording of it. People are all having this, like. And he Would. He was really good at, like, being like, yeah, yeah. This is, like, of something I really care about, you know? Like, he would sell them that he should be in this, and they're all listening to him. And then some guy just stands up and his dick is on camera, and everyone's like, what's happening here? It's insane.
Guest/Caller
And then people are like, what kind of meeting are we in?
Bert Kreischer
Oh, it's so funny, man.
Tom Segura
Yeah, that when Doug had the. The Unbookables.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
That was like, him. Sean Rouse. I saw. The first time I ever saw Brandon Walsh do stand up, I was at the Laugh Factory. I walked in and I knew who he was. And they're like, brendan Walsh is on stage. I was like, wow. And I was standing with a group of people, and he gets on stage and he goes, holy shit. Gene Hackman died.
Bert Kreischer
Oh, yeah, The Gene Hackman.
Tom Segura
And everyone's like, whoa. And he was like, can you fucking believe it? Hey, he's died today. And I watched a group of girls go, oh, my God. Oh, my God. And they left. He goes, I'm just kidding.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
He was like, yeah. You didn't think you were a Gene Hackman fan until now, huh? Maybe you should pay more attention to his work. He goes, you know, is. His brain just works in a silly way? Like, he goes, you know, you can buy yourself a birthday cake any day of the week.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, that's a great. Yeah, that's a great.
Tom Segura
He is. Those guys played. There's, like. There's comics who play. I know. I see this online. I feel like I'm. I feel like, you know, we get back to this thing of how much longer you do stand up. Like, at a certain point, nothing surprises you anymore. No one's really shocking you, and no one's bringing. Like, when you're young and you watch it, you're like. Like, Sean Rouse was fucking brilliant. I mean, brilliant. And it's a bummer that, like, guys like him just kind of disappear. That's what. Where I say, life is fleeting and it's a cash grab or they pass away. Yeah.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And they. They didn't. So, like, some comics play to the back of the room. They try to play to the back of the room, and then that's a weakness where you're like, we get what you're doing. Guys like that, they played to themselves.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah.
Tom Segura
They only played. And Stanhope, he has the most brilliant bit about calling Pac. Calling India for fucking a phone.
Bert Kreischer
You know, like, the telemarketing stuff.
Tom Segura
It is the most Brilliant bit. I would never do it justice. I don't know what special it's on. I think it's on YouTube. He is just one of those guys. The first time I ever saw him do stand up, I was blown away. I was blown away by what he did. And then he started making fun of me in the back of the room because I had gotten a show that he had wanted to, and he started making fun of me. And I was like, I was with Gary Valentine. I think he's making fun of me. And he goes, he absolutely is. And I go, do you think he knows I'm in here? And he was like, 100%. And he just started picking apart my career and what my career was going to look like if I didn't start focusing on or whatever. And it was just like. I feel like. I feel like I need a sabbatical. I feel like I need a day job to hang out with other just degenerates. Like work at a Home Depot and just come up with funny shit to do. Yep, this job's pretty good.
Bert Kreischer
Why am I going to get. You could. I was going to say, you definitely can. Yeah, you could go there. All right, look, we're so excited to see you Saturday, May 9th at the Rose Bowl. Just come fucking hang out with us. Walk it. If you don't want to run it. Just walk it, everybody. A lot of people walk.
Tom Segura
Yeah, it's going to be a blast. I think I will be smoking weed definitely by then, and I'm gonna try to get Snoop to come out because I'd love my first joint to be with Snoop.
Bert Kreischer
That's it, man.
Tom Segura
I'm really glad I flew here. I didn't want to fly here.
Bert Kreischer
Thank you for coming in.
Tom Segura
No. Hey, can I tell you, this is what friendship is. I want to say this. I want to say this. This is when you know you're a friend of someone. Like, you're my friend, and I know you're my friend, and I know Ari's my friend, and I know that I do things for a friend. I was saying to Zolo, just casually, business wise, they're like, you know, I was like, well, I want to come in and do some Two Bears. And Zolo's like, well, you know, you came in last time. Tom should come out next time. And I said very casually, I went, no, this is going to sound sad when I say it. I go, no, I don't really have anything waiting for me at home. Like, it's just Leanne. All the dogs are dead. The cats are all dead. The girls are in college. I go, he's got two kids. And if you said to me, yo, Bert, when you had young kids, I'll come to you so you don't have to leave your kids. And I love your kids, I go, that's what a friend would do. So this morning I woke up and I was like, God damn it, I wish I wasn't his friend. I don't want to fly in. I'm so glad I came. These are two. I love doing this show, and I love that as a friend, I can silently. Although I did tell you I did it silently, give you the gift of getting to be with your family and getting work done.
Bert Kreischer
Thank you.
Tom Segura
And I fly right now. I get on a plane to go to Tampa. I was here for four hours.
Bert Kreischer
And just so you know, I really appreciate it. And today, because I'm here, I'll go take Ellis to Jiu Jitsu. So that'll be. That'll be fun.
Tom Segura
Well, I want you to know that I will be white knuckling a flight to Tampa on South West.
Bert Kreischer
It's not that bad.
Tom Segura
Now they got first class now it's not.
Bert Kreischer
Yeah, it's not that bad.
Tom Segura
I got the whole row.
Bert Kreischer
Do it, man.
Tom Segura
I don't want anyone sitting next to me.
Bert Kreischer
Smart.
Tom Segura
I'm a door prize. You walk on Southwest and you're like, oh, are we drinking today?
Bert Kreischer
And you're like, July 12th. I am, though.
Tom Segura
July 12th I am. Guys, hit me up. Tell me where I should fucking party. July 12th. I love you, buddy.
Bert Kreischer
All right. I love you, too, man. Bye, guys.
Tom Segura
Burt, Tom, Tom and Burt. One goes topless while the other wears a shirt. Tom tells stories, and Burt's the machine. There's not a chance in hell that they'll keep it clean. Here's what we call two bears. One cave.
Podcast: 2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer
Episode: The Bears Go Up In Smoke
Date: May 4, 2026
Studio: YMH Studios
In this episode, best friends and comedians Tom Segura and Bert Kreischer meet in Austin, Texas, and deliver another classically hilarious and candid conversation. The episode is centered around updates on their lives—health, bad habits, the dichotomy of sobriety and indulgence—and a lot of classic riffing about celebrity, aging, drugs, and community. The energy is playful but introspective, with both hosts discussing their progress, anxieties, and observations about success, friendship, and the comedy business. As the title suggests, the episode is “up in smoke”: cigars are lit, vices examined, and no topic is off-limits.
A classic “2 Bears” installment, rich in self-deprecating humor, absurdity, generational angst, and genuine warmth about friendship and the world of comedians. Tom and Bert’s chemistry shines as they celebrate their health improvements, debate vices, poke fun at ignorance, and pay homage to comedy’s true originals.
For longtime fans or new listeners, this episode captures the heart and madness of the 2 Bears dynamic—mortality, mischief, vices, and loyalty—all up in smoke.