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A show about the most important comic of the 21st century, and the greatest series you’ve never heard of. Each week Journalist Gita Jackson and DC Historian Alex Jaffe read and explore an issue of 52, a 2006 exploration of the DC universe by a legendary team of talent that shaped everything that came after it.

When the time comes, let go. World’s Finest Gita Jackson and All-Star Alex Jaffe come to terms with issue 38 of 52, and the long-coming death of Vic Sage. But along the way they’ll note the Watchmen parallels with Oolong Island, check in with Steelworks, and answer a listener question about Wonder Woman’s magic period. Show Notes: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen Le Morte d’Arthur Image Comics Spawn 1: Let’s Talk Talent (02:49) Joe Bennett Jack Jadson J. G. Jones Final Fantasy One Winged Angel Vic Sage Jizz 2: Let’s Talk About 52 #38 (05:54) Renee Montoya Nanda Parbat Kate Kane Chiller Warped Tour Yeah Yeah Yeahs Oolong Island The Pitt 24 Mercury T. O. Morrow Will Magnus Egg Fu Apokolips Black Adam Black Adam (2022) Subscribe to Aftermath Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson Veronica Kale The Question (1986 series) Zhuangzi Hermann Hesse John Henry Irons Superman Doctor Mid-Nite Lex Luthor Natasha Irons Beast Boy Ted Kord Steve Ditko Booster Gold Frank Grimes Ralph Dibny Sue Dibny Alfred Pennyworth Tom King Batman Dan DiDio Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker Hal Jordan 3: The Backup (32:38) Red Tornado Phil Jiminez Andy Lanning Todd Nauck Young Justice Justice League of America by Brad Meltzer Jodi Picoult Wonder Woman The Real World Judd Winick Outsiders Percy Jackson Rick Riordan Sharp Objects Gillian Flynn Hades Absolute Wonder Woman Justice League International Ben Stein Napoleon Dynamite (2004) Benchwarmers (2006) Rob Schneider 4: What’s your favorite part of the issue? (39:49) 5: The Blackboard (41:20) Watchmen Thomas Szasz Gotham Central Ed Brubaker 6: Asking The Questions at 52mailbag@gmail.com (48:25) Duke of Deception Rip Hunter Robert Kanigher Church of the SubGenius Denny O’Neal 52 Pickup is an Aftermath production, created by Gita Jackson and Alex Jaffe, and edited by Esper Quinn, with original music by Jon Ehrens. Hosting for 52 Pickup is provided by Insert Credit. If you’d like to follow along, you can check out 52 at your local comic book store or library, or the DC Universe Infinite subscription service. The views and opinions expressed on this show are solely those of the show’s personalities, and do not reflect those of DC Entertainment or Warner Bros. Please rate and review our show wherever you can, and send your questions and comments to 52mailbag@gmail.com. Never stop reading comics.

You gotta take advantage of these shiny characters! All-Star Gita Jackson and World’s Finest Alex Jaffe team up with Atomic Brian Clevinger to reflect on the surfaces of 52 #37, featuring a salute to our himbo listeners, emergency renaming of otherwise fine characters, and Jaffe’s house show with Stretchy Computer. Show Notes: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen Animal Man Effervescent 8-Bit Theater Atomic Robo Brian Clevinger Webtoon Wizard Magazine Justice League Batman: No Man’s Land Catwoman (2002 series) Batman: Batgirl Spider-Man Ultimate Spider-Man Midtown Comics 1: Let’s Talk Talent (08:36) Pat Oliffe Drew Geraci Accomplished Perfect Physician Paul Chin Rip Hunter Booster Gold Kandor Supernova Skeets Deadshot Steve Englehart Batman 2: Let’s Talk About 52 #37 (11:38) Vince Carter Otto Binder Captain Marvel Superman Connor Kent Jason Todd Power Rangers Gold Ranger Batman: Hush Tommy Elliot H2sh Mamoru Pulsar, Master of Sound Gingold Justice League International Blue Beetle Final Fantasy Undertale The Pitt 9-1-1 24 Legion of Super-Heroes Legends of Tomorrow Doctor Who Tom Baker Christopher Eccleston The Weakest Link Matt Smith David Tennant Tumblr Sexyman Ed Helms The Lorax (2012) Danny DeVito Patrick Schwarzenegger The White Lotus Kumail Nanjiani Heroes in Crisis Killzone: Liberation Magic: the Gathering Phantom Zone Dave Gibbons Alan Moore Dustin Nguyen “Good for him”— Marvel fans stunned as Dustin Nguyen calls out industry exploitation and cuts ties Freelance Video Game Journalists Are Propping Up The Industry, And Many Are Being Paid Dogshit In Return Jeff Smith Shazam: The Monster Society of Evil Bone Tawky Tawny Star City Oliver Queen Dan DiDio Ralph Dibny Black Canary Birds of Prey Cindy Reynolds The Flash CW Kitty Pryde Destroy All Humans 2 Lobo Swamp Thing The Invisibles Watchmen Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? Supreme Kurt Busiek Astro City Watchmen (2009) Superman and Batman versus Aliens and Predator Jujutsu Kaisen <a href="https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fthe-potential-man-challenge-v0-194...

You can always trust me! All-Star Gita Jackson and World’s Finest Alex Jaffe cling desperately to issue 36, featuring an update on our beloved space heroes, neckless Trent Reznor, and the lovable and irascible Sobek the Talking Crocodile! Show Notes: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen James Brown From Hell Alan Moore Neil Gaiman Lost Girls Animal Man (1988 series) Lady Styx 1: Let’s Talk Talent (07:04) Jamal Igle Supergirl The Ray Firestorm (2004 series) Keith Champagne Green Lantern JSA 2: Let’s Talk About 52 #36 (08:09) Lobo Chewbacca Starfire Adam Strange Flash Gordon Alan Grant Lobo Paramilitary Christmas Special Ekron Seven Soldiers of Victory The Multiversity Batman Watchmen Captain Atom Doctor Manhattan Renee Montoya Vic Sage Aristotle Rodor Kate Kane Denny O’Neil The Question (1986 series) Nine Inch Nails Trent Reznor Osiris Teen Titans Barney the Dinosaur Booster Gold Rip Hunter Starman Cosmic Rod Lord of the Rings Kevin Smith Skeets Bottle City of Kandor 3: The Backup (28:36) Power Girl Leah Williams Adam Hughes Catwoman cover Sidney Sweeney All-Star Squadron Gerry Conway Jay Garrick Alan Scott Carrie Bradshaw Justin Gray Amanda Conner Jimmy Palmiotti Everything You Wanted to Know About Power Girl (But Were Afraid to Ask) 4: What’s your favorite part of the issue? (38:50) 5: The Blackboard (40:42) Legion of Super-Heroes Chronos Robin Superman Wally Wood 6: Asking The Questions at 52mailbag@gmail.com (43:57) 52 Pickup is an Aftermath production, created by Gita Jackson and Alex Jaffe, and edited by Esper Quinn, with original music by Jon Ehrens. Hosting for 52 Pickup is provided by Insert Credit. If you’d like to follow along, you can check out 52 at your local comic book store or library, or the DC Universe Infinite subscription service. The views and opinions expressed on this show are solely those of the show’s personalities, and do not reflect those of DC Entertainment or Warner Bros. Please rate and review our show wherever you can, and send your questions and comments to 52mailbag@gmail.com. Never stop reading comics.

All-Star Gita Jackson and World’s Finest Alex Jaffe plummet into 52 #35, featuring bad puns for gruesome events, Kirkland Signature Superman, and shocking new developments for everyone’s favorite storyline, Lobo and the space heroes. Show Notes: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen Shohei Ohtani The Further Adventures of The Joker Batman: the Animated Series Joker Batman Lex Luthor 1: Let’s Talk Talent (03:35) Phil Jimenez Dan Jurgens Andy Lanning Norm Ratman Superman John Henry Irons Justice League Unlimited Darkseid 2: Let’s Talk About 52 #35 (07:02) Are You Afraid of the Dark Universe? Podcast Nicholas Hoult Hunter x Hunter TARDIS Natasha Irons Infinity Inc. The Pitt Noah Wyle 24 The Sopranos The West Wing The Newsroom Aaron Sorkin Being the Ricardos (2021) Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip Metamorpho Plastic Man Offspring The Kingdom Kingdom Come Beast Boy Teen Titans Trigon Andy Cohen Community Lady Styx Dan DiDio 3: What’s your favorite part of the issue? (27:31) Heroes in Crisis Doctor Doom Loki 4: The Blackboard (30:51) Brain Monsieur Mallah Elseworlds Doug Moench JLA: Act of God Lois Lane Kyle Rayner Atom Wonder Woman Dasha Nekrasova Man of Steel (2013) Vandal Savage Jerry Siegel 5: Asking The Questions at 52mailbag@gmail.com (39:04) Poison Ivy Anarky Red Hood Red Hood and the Outlaws Batman: Under the Red Hood (2010) Suicide Squad Secret Six Catwoman Lucifer Red Lanterns Batman: One Bad Day The Joker: The Man Who Stopped Laughing Darth Vader Puella Magi Madoka Magica Revolutionary Girl Utena Neon Genesis Evangelion Gurren Lagaan Berserk Chainsaw Man Goodbye, Eri Devilman Pluto Jujutsu Kaisen My Hero Academia Shonen Jump Boruto 52 Pickup is an Aftermath production, created by Gita Jackson and Alex Jaffe, and edited by Esper Quinn, with original music by Jon Ehrens. Hosting for 52 Pickup is provided by Insert Credit. If you’d like to follow along, you can check out 52 at your local comic book store or library, or the DC Universe Infinite subscription service. The views and opinions expressed on this show are solely those of the show’s personalities, and do not reflect those of DC Entertainment or Warner Bros. Please rate and review our show wherever you can, and send your questions and comments to 52mailbag@gmail.com. Never stop reading comics.

Gaslight, gatekeep, graveboss! All-Star Gita and World’s Finest Alex are joined by The Black Casebook Podcast’s Walt Lewellyn to rise up for issue 34, taking on Barbara Gordon’s Boiler Room set, whether or not 52 counts as an event comic, and the DC Universe’s own version of WikiFeet. SHOW NOTES: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen Beyonce - Irreplacable Miley Cyrus - Can’t Be Tamed One Piece The Black Casebook Insert Credit Show Identity Crisis New 52 Crisis on Infinite Earths Wonder Woman Suicide Squad Batman NSYNC Justin Timberlake JC Chasez Pulsar, Master of Sound Pulsar Stargrave Superman Johnny Appleseed Hergé Snowy Tintin The Smurfs Moomin Snuffkin 1: Let’s Talk Talent, and The Cover (09:39) Joe Bennett José Ruy Vic Sage WikiFeet Maxim Magazine Bugs Bunny 2: Let’s Talk About 52 #34 (12:20) Amanda Waller Captain Boomerang Supergirl The Persuader Plastique Alpha Flight Black Adam Osiris Isis Batman Returns (1992) The Penguin Sobek Argent Teen Titans (Glenn Murakami cartoon) Raven Madame Xanadu Atom Smasher Legion of Super-Heroes Terra-Man Invincible Lex Luthor Civil War Captain America: Brave New World (2025) James Gunn Can’t Stop Making Suicide Squads Green Lantern Corps Creature Commandos Collective Action Comics Joss Whedon Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) Thanos Zack Snyder Black Panther (2018) Mission Impossible series Ryan Coogler Russo Brothers David Xanatos Death Note John Ostrander Absolute Power Viola Davis How To Get Away with Murder Polka-Dot Man Mark Millar Ralph Dibny Sue Dibny Community Ratcatcher 2 Oracle Boiler Room Dick Grayson Infinity Inc Kurt Busiek Booster Gold The Multiversity Damian Wayne The Hills Lauren Conrad 24 Heidi Montag The Simple Life Matrix Paris Hilton Renee Montoya Black Canary John Henry Irons Natasha Irons John Byrne David Bowie Justice League Unlimited Flash Jeph Loeb Superman: For All Seasons Gene Hackman <a href="https://en.wikipedia.or...

Giddyup, Jinglehorse! All-Star Gita Jackson and World’s Finest Alex Jaffe sleighride into Week 33, the Christmas Issue! Celebrate Lex Luthor’s memecoin launch, Batman’s canonical Judaism, and lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. Chapters: Let’s Talk Talent: Don’t Have Heroes (04:42) Let’s Talk About 52 #33 (19:14) The Backup (57:59) What’s your favorite part of the issue? (01:05:57) The Blackboard (01:08:06) Asking The Questions at 52mailbag@gmail.com (01:15:25) A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen Brat Taylor Swift Kate Kane Joe Bennett Brad Neely You, Me, and Ulysses S. Grant Severance Parks and Recreation Adam Scott Barack Obama Joe Biden Michael Schur Hillary Clinton The Good Place Grant Morrison’s Substack Chris Person WeWork Collective Action Comics George W. Bush Ultimate Avengers Death & Return of Superman Bill Clinton Justice League International The Comics Journal José Antonio Muñoz Alack Sinner Sin City Ambush Bug Legion of Super-Heroes J. M. DeMatteis Greg Land Doomsday Clock Tom Derenick Joe Prado Star Trek Blackest Night Generations Shattered Dark Knights: Death Metal Rodney Ramos Jay Leisten Birds of Prey Hawkgirl Mike Baron Dick Grayson 30 Rockefeller Plaza 30 Rock Ralph Dibny Doctor Fate The Flash Barry Allen Edgar Allan Poe Jack the Ripper It’s the Most Wonderful Time of the Year All I Want For Christmas Is You Jingle Bell Rock Alfred Pennyworth Batman Jeanine Schaefer Dan DiDio Final Crisis Battle for the Cowl Jon Snow Knightfall Jean-Paul Valley LexCorp Lex Luthor Lorem Ipsum Mercy Graves Harley Quinn: the Animated Series Poison Ivy Talladega Nights (2006) Superman Neuralink monkey deaths Planet of the Apes Tom King Vic Sage Renee Montoya Dennis O’Neil Myra Fermin Aristotle Roder Twin Peaks David Lynch Brian Michael Bendis Buddy Baker Lois Lane Firestorm Cyborg Selena Kyle Green Arrow Black Canary Cassie Sandsmark Hawkgirl Hal Jordan Guy Gardner Nathan Fielder Nathan Fillion Red Tornado Jim Gordon John Henry Irons Christmukkah</a...

All-Star Gita Jackson and World’s Finest Alex Jaffe team up with Music Meister Paul Chin to leap into week 32, featuring talking crocodiles, the least disrespectful ways to pay homage to Watchmen, and Pulsar, Master of Sound. Chapters: Let’s Talk Talent (21:26) Let’s Talk About the Cover (27:34) Let’s Talk About 52 #32 (28:40) The Backup (01:21:03) What’s your favorite part of the issue? (01:23:11) The Blackboard (01:27:26) Asking The Questions at 52mailbag@gmail.com (01:34:48) A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen Kate Kane The Nice House by the Sea Paul Chin Superman Batman Green Lantern Firestorm Infinite Crisis Superboy Cassie Sandsmark Teen Titans Marv Wolfman George Pérez Final Crisis Mary Marvel New X-Men Robin Damian Wayne Peter Tomasi Dick Grayson Joshua Williamson Ralph Dibny Identity Crisis Angelica Jade Bastién Tom King New 52 Le Transperceneige Snowpiercer (2013) Nanda Parbat Deepak Chopra Neal Adams Patrick Oliffe Drew Geraci Osiris Dan DiDio Paul Dini Harley Quinn J. G. Jones Star Wars Deadman Dennis O’Neil Ra’s al Ghul Doctor Fate Kyle Rayner Green Lantern (1990 series) #93 Obi-Wan Kenobi The Great Gatsby Seven Years in Tibet (1997) Brad Pitt Limitless (2011) Young Frankenstein Más y Menos Cyborg Beast Boy Raven Duela Dent Joker Offspring The Kingdom Kingdom Come Miss Martian Supergirl Talon Pulsar, Master of Sound Vogue Red Devil Deathstroke Avengers Black Adam Animal Man Darkseid Jack Kirby Adam Strange Captain Comet Starfire Tamaran The Spectre Jean Loring Great Ten Yao Fei Vic Sage Multiversity Alan Moore Watchmen Sue Dibny Doctor Manhattan Booster Gold Hu Wei Intergang Abbott Elementary It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia David Baron Gene Luen Yang Wu Mei-Xin Barbara Gordon Blue Beetle Cully Hamner Blue Beetle (2023) Black Panther (2018) The Authority Hawkman Doomsday Clock Barry Allen <a href="...

Oy oy, wots all this then?! All-Star Gita Jackson and World’s Finest Alex Jaffe flay the skin from issue 31 of 52, exploring Green Lantern cop discourse, DC reinventing the industry to screw Alan Moore, and why Jimmy Olsen is black now. Chapters: Let’s Talk Talent (06:26) Let’s Talk About 52 #31 (10:39) The Backup (40:55) What’s your favorite part of the issue? (50:35) The Blackboard (53:05) Asking The Questions at 52mailbag@gmail.com (55:38) How DC Screwed Over Alan Moore (01:01:15) Your Reviews of 52 Pickup (01:09:02) A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen Isis Jewel Kryptonite Fahrenheit 451 Booster Gold Seven Soldiers of Victory Multiversity Final Crisis Chris Batista Justice Society of America Stephen Wacker Dan Green Tarzan Doctor Strange David Meikis Image Comics WildStorm Lobo Hourman Rodney Ramos Infinity, Inc. Wolfenstein series Resistance: Fall of Man Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Star Wars Alex Sinclair J. G. Jones Captain Comet Barry Allen Green Lantern Corps Zatanna Lois Lane Alan Moore Superman Marvel Buck Rogers John Carter Adam Strange Beefeaters Handsome Squidward Atrocitus Larfleeze Guardians of the Universe The CW Superman & Lois Friday Night Lights Natasha Irons Tyra Banks Hannibal Lex Luthor Gossip Girl Cassie Sandsmark Superboy Justice League (2017) Buffy the Vampire Slayer Doctor Fate Ralph Dibny NXIVM Smallville Garth Marenghi Dev-Em Nathan Fielder John Wilson Snapper Carr Jimmy Olsen LeBron James Westworld Far Sector Darkseid The Invisibles The Filth Lady Styx Sheeda Camelot Vic Sage Robin Renee Montoya Tim Drake Freddie E. Williams II James Tynion IV Batman Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Damian Wayne Jason Todd Dick Grayson Stephanie Brown Cassandra Cain Bryan Q Miller Barbara Gordon Leslie Thompkins Batman: The Imposter Catwoman The Batman (2022) Robert Pattinson Christian Bale Nirvana In Bloom Hole Soundgarden Chris Cornell Hole - Doll Parts Mister Terrific</...

All-Star Comics Journalist Gita Jackson and World’s Finest Comics Expert Alex Jaffe team up with the Astonishing Ash Parrish to strike again at 52 #30, including the return of DC’s Most Toxic Yuri Couple, deciding the most fuckable Batman, and the true reason for the Dark Knight’s cape. Chapters: Let’s Talk About The Cover (12:11) Let’s Talk About Grant Morrison’s Take on Batman and A Little of 52 #30 (12:47) Let’s Talk Talent (20:22) Let’s Continue Talking About 52 #30, and Marvel Movies (20:39) The Backup (01:03:55) What’s your favorite part of the issue? (01:06:30) The Blackboard (01:10:43) A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen BATMAN: YEAR ONE Animated Film - “Ladies, gentlemen, you have eaten well.” Ash Parrish insert credit Dick Grayson Ctrl + Alt + Delete Megatokyo Questionable Content Penny Arcade MC Frontalot Batman: The Animated Series Justice League Unlimited The New 52 The Authority Top 10 Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Batman: The Dark Knight Strikes Again Free Comic Book Day Batman Stephen Wacker Identity Crisis Infinite Crisis Jason Todd Barbara Gordon Wonder Woman Superman Black Adam Vic Sage Saint Michael Vanquishing Satan J. G. Jones Killer Croc Tim Drake All-Star Superman Bob Kane Robin Joker Batman: A Death in the Family Batman: The Killing Joke Batman: Knightfall Bane Batman: No Man’s Land Dennis O’Neil Batman: Under the Hood Captain Boomerang Eat Pray Love The Signature of All Things Elizabeth Gilbert Charles Darwin Brother Eye Justice League: Doom Justice League Watchtower Joe Bennett Ruy Jose Damian Wayne Carrie Kelley Frank Miller John Byrne Dark Knight III: The Master Race Dark Knight Returns: The Golden Child Rafael Grampá Watchmen Alan Moore The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen From Hell Black Lives Matter Corporation When Death Came For Frank Miller Dan DiDio Holy Terror Tom King Black Adam (2022) Leviathan Talia al Ghul New X-Men Renee Montoya Gotham Central Kate Kane Kieron Gillen The Power Fantasy Kraven the Hunter (2024) Captain America: Brave New World (2025) Anthony Mackie Captain America Falcon Young Avengers Eli Bradley The Falcon and the Winter Soldier James Gunn Superman (2025) James Gunn Superman Trailer Blue Lantern Corps <a href="https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight...

Dick Death Determined via Dan DiDio! The Dynamic Duo of Podcasting Gita and Alex feast on issue 29, cooking up opinions on Grant Morrison’s writing of women, the importance of Thanksgiving tables in DC history, and some unsubtle jabs at the idea of IP rights by the authors of 52. Chapters: Let’s Talk Talent (08:45) Let’s Talk About 52 #29 (11:48) What’s your favorite part of the issue? (32:53) The Blackboard (36:50) Asking The Questions at 52mailbag@gmail.com (45:49) A SMALL SELECTION OF THINGS REFERENCED: 52 Geoff Johns Grant Morrison Greg Rucka Mark Waid Keith Giffen Countdown to Final Crisis Stephen Wacker Final Crisis Paul Dini Batman: the Animated Series Multiversity Shonen Jump Lex Luthor Komi Can’t Communicate Jamie McKelvie One For Sorrow Alan Moore Stargirl JSA The X-Files Barenaked Ladies - One Week Chris Batista Jack Jadson Reign of the Supermen Egg Fu Alan Scott Jay Garrick Wildcat No Country for Old Men (2007) Jade Rann-Thanagar War Infinite Crisis Monkey D. Luffy Goku Infinity Inc. Nuklon Spider-Man Obsidian Batman Batman: Wayne Family Adventures Doctor Sivana T. O. Morrow Black Adam Will Magnus Veronica Cale Jenna Maroney Jezebel Jet Emma Frost New X-Men Megan Thee Stallion Talia al Ghul James Gunn League of Shadows Dennis O’Neal Batman: Birth of the Demon Intergang Jack Kirby Monty Python’s The Life of Brian (1979) John Henry Irons Beast Boy Nightwing Dan DiDio Tom Taylor Superman Robin The Batman (2022) Batman Begins (2005) Tim Burton Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman Zoë Kravitz The Penguin Burgess Meredith Batman (60’s tv show) Adam West Elliot Kalan Harley Quinn Forbidden Planet Todd MacFarlane Platinum Collection The Question Starman Zatara Superman & Lois Greg Berlanti Arrow Smallville Crisis on Infinite Earths The CW Gossip Girl The Vampire Diaries Interview with the Vampire Criterion Channel Tyler Hoechlin Hellboy Bureau for Paranormal Research and Defense Chase Sugar & Spike Green Lantern Mike Mignola Hellblazer John Constantine Garth Ennis L.A. Noire <a h...