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7-Figure Music School
Hosted by Daniel Patterson & Nate Shaw · EN
7-Figure Music School is a podcast for music school owners who want to create fantastic margins, hire energetic teachers, and leverage their team's time and talent to create a sustainable business. Join hosts Daniel Patterson, Founder & CEO of Grow Your Music Studio, and Nate Shaw, Co-founder & CEO of Brooklyn Music Factory, as you create YOUR 7-figure music school.
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Retention Isn’t Tactics | 7FMS182
Dec 1700:39:49Tap to summarizeMost owners think retention is a reward for doing other things well.But it’s not.Retention is a strategy—and it might be the most important one you have.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio in 2026…And if you are looking for a program that will:· Increase student retention…· Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…· Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...· Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)· And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
Transcribe →Your School’s Hidden Operating System | 7FMS181
Dec 1000:48:53Tap to summarizeMost school owners think of culture as a vibe… a feeling… a thing you “kinda have.” But culture is actually the operating system of your business. It's what makes people care or quit.Before you chase new systems or bigger goals, make sure your business actually has the backbone to carry them.In this episode, Daniel and Nate break down why culture is essential for scale, retention, and delegation and how to build it.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio in 2026…And if you are looking for a program that will:· Increase student retention…· Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…· Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...· Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)· And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
Transcribe →The Marketing Myth: Why “More Leads” Isn’t the Answer | 7FMS180
Dec 300:38:01Tap to summarizeIt’s tempting to believe that more inquiries = less stress. This belief is a trap. It’s too simple by half.The truth is far more nuanced and we give updated marketing advice that you can use as you head into 2026.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio in 2026…And if you are looking for a program that will:· Increase student retention…· Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…· Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...· Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)· And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
Transcribe →Do Less, But Better | 7FMS179
Oct 800:27:11Tap to summarizeIf you’ve ever thought:“I just need to add more programs”“There aren’t enough students for my current offer”“We’re saying yes to everything… and still not growing”Then I think this episode might change how you see your entire business.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio this fall…And if you are looking for a program that will:· Increase student retention…· Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…· Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...· Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)· And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
Transcribe →Are You Delegating Correctly? | 7FMS178
Oct 100:40:35Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Daniel and Nate break down the first myth in their new series on growing a 7-figure music school:“If I delegate, I’m leading.”Spoiler: That’s false. Most owners don’t delegate—they abdicate. And that keeps them stuck in chaos, stress, and 50-hour weeks.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio this fall…And if you are looking for a program that will:· Increase student retention…· Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…· Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...· Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)· And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
Transcribe →Keys to Keeping Students After Their 1st Lesson | 7FMS177
Sep 1000:41:24Tap to summarizeThis week, Daniel and Nate reveal how a strong onboarding system can dramatically improve your retention, parent buy-in, student satisfaction, and team culture.You’ll learn the three onboarding goals every school should aim for.If you want new families to engage more quickly, stick around longer, and become raving fans… this episode is your blueprint.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio this fall…And if you are looking for a program that will:· Increase student retention…· Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…· Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...· Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)· And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
Transcribe →Why Do Students Ghost You After Trial Lessons? | 7FMS176
Sep 300:40:57Tap to summarizeWhy do so many leads disappear after showing interest in your school? It’s easy to blame their busy schedules… but in this episode, Daniel and Nate argue that the root cause is in two avoidable problems that music school owners create for themselves.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio this fall…And if you are looking for a program that will:· Increase student retention…· Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…· Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...· Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)· And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
Transcribe →How to Solve the “Practice Problem” In Your Music School | 7FMS175
Aug 1300:39:43Tap to summarizeIn this episode, Daniel and Nate explore how to reframe practice—not as a personal failing of students or parents, but as a marketing, retention, and curriculum problem.You’ll hear how shifting your school’s message, delivery method, and parent communication can make “home practice” feel joyful and effortless.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio this fall…And if you are looking for a program that will:· Increase student retention…· Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…· Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...· Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)· And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
Transcribe →How to Grow a Special Music Program in Your School (w. Kate and Rebecca) | 7FMS174
Aug 600:58:33Tap to summarizeThis week, we go behind the scenes and in-depth with the founders of Monkey Bar Music to unpack how they’ve grown a 170-student program—without a storefront.You’ll hear how they said no to distractions, trusted their instincts, built curriculum from scratch, and used one Facebook video to ignite word-of-mouth and revenue.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio this fall…And if you are looking for a program that will:Increase student retention…Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
Transcribe →Books That Shaped Our Business | 7FMS173
Jul 3000:52:09Tap to summarizeIf you’re going to take the time to read a business book, you want to make sure that it’s worth the time you spend to read it.That’s why we made another episode about books that shaped the way we think about and do business.- - - - -Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school:growyourmusicstudio.com/freeGet updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate and Daniel:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsIf the podcast has been helpful to you, leave a review here:growyourmusicstudio.com/7fmsReview*******SPONSOR - Piano Express from GroupLessons.comNow’s the time of year to consider what programs you are going to be offering in your music studio this fall…And if you are looking for a program that will:Increase student retention…Increase the number of your beginners that become intermediate students…Help students go through their books faster (Proven! We did a study on this!)...Increase home practice time (Proven! We have years of data showing that this happens)And increase the profit in your studio (not just revenue)…… Then you need to head over to GroupLessons.com, sign up for a free demo, and we’ll show you how hundreds of studios have easily started a new group program (sometimes in just a few weeks)... with little to no difficulty.You can even begin our owner training for free (download our shopping list, and look through our teacher guides and method).Click here for more information*******SPONSOR - Big Music GamesBig Music Games provides fun with a clear purpose. Ear training and music theory for students ages 4-14. Level up your student's ears & ignite their passion and motivation to practice with 15 levels of rhythm, melody, harmony and songwriting games. Join the tribe of teachers dedicated to improving the way the world educates the next generation of musicians. BigMusicGames.com/7FMS
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