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In May this year, Kumanjayi White died after being restrained by police inside a supermarket in Alice Springs. Just weeks later, the coroner released her findings into the fatal police shooting of Kumanjayi Walker, who was killed in Yuendumu in 2019.

Both men were Warlpiri, and both died after encounters with Northern Territory police.

Jampijinpa Hargraves is Kumanjayi White’s grandfather – and a Warlpiri elder who has also spoken on behalf of Kumanjayi Walker’s family. He says the system that failed them is still failing Aboriginal people across the Territory.

Today, Jampijinpa Hargraves on life under the watch of police, the pressure of systems that were never made to protect his people – and what real safety would look like.

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Guest: Warlpiri elder Jampijinpa ‘Ned’ Hargraves.

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‘We do not feel safe’: Kumanjayi White’s grandfather on the danger of the NT police

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