Welcome to our dazzle of stripe-less zebras! Here we tell stories of belonging—finding it, losing it, making it, leaving the places you don’t belong, and ultimately being at home with your true self.

Author Cara Meredith and I talk about reckoning with and departing from white evangelicalism, a place she found community and a career for many years. She is the author of two beautiful books. The Color of Life: A Journey Toward Love and Racial Justice is about her coming to grips with race in America through her love for her husband, the son of civil rights icon James Meredith. And her new book, Church Camp: Bad Skits, Cry Night, and How White Evangelicalism Betrayed a Generation, is a excavation of the culture and theology of of evangelicalism through the programmatic week of the church camps that Cara spent decades attending, as a camper and a staffer.

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Episode 4: The Both/And of Departure