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Aaron Manke
Welcome to Erin Menke's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of iHeartRadio and Grim and Mild.
Erin Menke
Our world is full of the unexplainable. And if history is an open book, all of these amazing tales are right there on display, just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet of Curiosities.
Aaron Manke
Science and the military share an uneasy alliance in the course of human history. Some of the most remarkable inventions only came about because of a war effort, the latter providing the impetus and infrastructure for a country to outstrip its enemy, not just in weapons, but in development. William Lawrence Bragg was already an acclaimed scientist by the time he was drafted into the army. The youngest man ever to be honored with a Nobel Prize for physics, an award he shared with his father, by the way. He had to put his promising career on hold when all of Europe descended into the First World War. And so the 25 year old Nobel laureate found himself in a cavalry unit in France. In the war years, Bragg eventually shifted into a more technical position and he was given a very specific assignment. His commanding officers wanted to know how to determine the position of the German artillery based entirely on the sound that their cannons made. The cannons were loud enough for the average person to hear, but with no real accuracy and not from a great distance. The main system for pinpointing cannon fire was based on a series of microphones lined up along frontline trenches. Army technicians could see the flare of a distant cannon shot and measure how long it was before their microphones picked up the boom, since sound travels slower than light. But the system was based on guesswork and it was imprecise when it came to actually locating the cannons. After all, a cannon makes three enormous booms when fired. There's the initial blast of the gun, the sound of the shell breaking the sound barrier, and then the eventual impact when it strikes the target. And on top of all of this, the microphones at the time were not able to detect lower frequency sounds. Bragg would be stumped by this conundrum for a very long time, until one fateful day in a latrine in Flanders. As the story goes, the army toilet had a door and no window, so that when a soldier was using it, he was completely cut off from the outside world. Bragg was sitting on the toilet one day when his rear end lifted fully off the toilet seat. And this was caused by infrasound generated by a nearby piece of British artillery on their side. And around the same time, a member of Bragg's team, a guy named William Sansom Tucker, noticed that his Quarters would shiver every time a gun went off, Even if he could not hear the blast. Bragg, Tucker, and the rest of their team set to work trying to develop a sensor that could properly detect not the audible sounds of the cannon itself, but the infrasound generated by the initial cannon fire. It took them many months of frustrating work, but eventually they developed a system where, based on Tucker's observations of how infrasound affected his sleeping quarters, their wave detector was an ammunition box with a hot wire running through it. They drilled a hole near the wire, and when a cannon went off, the infrasound pressure would force a puff of air through the hole and onto the heated wire. The changing current in the wire would give them data that they could measure. This device was named the Tucker microphone after William Tucker, the man who had designed the specific wire mechanism and. And this was the first piece in a far more effective method of detecting the location of enemy guns. Unlike those older, imprecise microphones of the early war, the Tucker microphone could place German guns within 25 to 50 meters, mere minutes after the gun had been fired. By September of 1916, all sound ranging stations were using Tucker microphones. It was an instrument developed in the war effort, leading to several key victories. Not every scientific breakthrough has a true eureka moment. Most come through steady, unglamorous hard work. But none of these sound ranging developments would have happened if not for the observation that William Lawrence Bragg made while sitting on an army toilet somewhere in Belgium. Even if it's not audible to the naked ear, there's no sound like inspiration.
Erin Menke
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Aaron Manke
Our health is an ever changing concept. 100 years ago, what we may have considered healthy looked very different from today. Back then, dangerous narcotics were marketed as cold medicine and used in soft drinks. Doctors would actually recommend smoking to help with asthma. And many people believe that radioactivity was the hot new thing in health. So it's no surprise that the guidelines for living well can change pretty quickly. We sometimes find out something we thought was healthy was based actually on faulty science or bad data, or in one case, even fraud. In 2004, researchers published a study in the journal Experimental Gerontology about the areas in the world where people live the longest. The authors speculated that people live longer in certain regions because of traditional diets, lifestyles, or genetics. On the map published with these studies, the regions were shaded in blue, leading to the term blue zones. The Next year, in 2005, National Geographic reporter Dan Buettner published an exhaustive story on these blue zones and launched them into fame. According to Dan in places like Okinawa, Japan, Sardinia, Italy, Nicoya, Costa Rica, Icaria, Greece, and Loma Linda, California, people simply live longer. And those who do live longer live better, healthier lives. Dan set out to find the keys to these Blue Zones and found the original researchers speculations rang true. Visiting each place and performing exhaustive in person research, he discovered that Blue Zone dwellers were more likely to live the following lifestyle. They ate nutritiously with lots of fruits and vegetables. They were physically active and active in their community. They abstained from smoking, drank only occasionally, managed their stress, and of course, felt that they had a purpose in life. Basically, Dan concluded that living well led to a longer life. Over the next 20 years, the Blue Zones became a brand in themselves. Dan's Blue Zones LLC published books, launched a line of soups and iced tea, and even created a program for cities to become Blue Zone certified. But if you've heard of the Blue Zones, it's likely because of the Netflix documentary series from just a couple of years ago. Basically, Blue Zones weren't just a big deal, they were also big business. Which is why it came as a shock in 2019 when one researcher made a new claim. The Blue Zones, according to him, were actually bunk. That year, researcher Saul Newman of University College London first released his study on long lived populations. In it, he found that areas with the highest concentration of centenarians have another unifying feature, poor record keeping. What Saul argued was that it all came down to poverty. Many places that on paper have exceedingly long lived populations are also often poor or have been poor in the past few decades. As a result, it's often the case that birth, baptism, and other records that could prove age went missing or were never recorded at all. Meaning many of the folks who believed that they were over 100 may be younger than they think. According to an interview with Minnesota Public Radio in 2024, Saul gave this example. After traveling through Japan and going back through birth records, he found that 82% of Japanese centenarians were either missing or had died without the death being recorded, which is another reason why the numbers might be lying in impoverished areas. It's much more likely for an elderly person's relatives to simply not report their death to the government. That way, they can keep collecting pension or social welfare checks, meaning that a good chunk of the Blue Zone dwellers may have also been frauds. So who's right? Are the people in Sardinia or Costa Rica just healthier than average? Or is their life expectancy just a case of shoddy record keeping? For his part, Dan Buettner and Blue Zone supporters have refuted Saul Neumann's claims. They assert that they've done exhaustive research to confirm ages and birth dates of the people they've studied, and that their points about diet and lifestyle hold up. And of course, Saul has his detractors. But he also managed to win a cleverly named IG Nobel Prize for his work. Meant as the colorful counterpart to the Nobel Prize, IG nobles are supposed to honor achievements that make people laugh and then think it's hard to tell who's really in the right here. After all, the Blue Zone lifestyle does sound like a great way to live, but data is sometimes difficult to correctly interpret, and that difficulty curve gets steeper the deeper a project goes. Because the Blue Zone concept is aiming for highly specific signs and markers, getting it all perfectly right is a lofty goal, but then again, so is living to 100.
Erin Menke
I hope you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet of Curiosities. Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts or learn more about the show by visiting curiosityspodcast. The show was created by me, Aaron Manke, in partnership with How Stuff Works. I make another award winning show called Lore, which is a podcast, book series and television show and you can learn all about it over@theworldoflore.com and until next time, stay curious.
Aaron Mahnke's Cabinet of Curiosities: Episode Summary - "Feeling Blue"
Release Date: April 17, 2025
Introduction
In the "Feeling Blue" episode of Aaron Mahnke's Cabinet of Curiosities, hosted by Erin Menke and produced by iHeartPodcasts and Grim & Mild, listeners are treated to two enthralling stories that delve into the unexpected intersections of science, war, and human longevity. This summary captures the essence of both tales, highlighting key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn during the episode.
1. The Silent Artillery: William Lawrence Bragg and the Tucker Microphone
Timestamp: 00:36 – 04:31
The episode opens with a fascinating exploration of the uneasy alliance between science and the military throughout human history. Aaron Mahnke narrates the story of William Lawrence Bragg, a prodigious scientist who, despite his Nobel Prize-winning status, found himself entrenched in the First World War.
Key Points:
Bragg's Military Service: At 25, Bragg transitioned from academia to a cavalry unit in France. His scientific acumen was soon redirected towards a critical wartime assignment: determining the location of German artillery through the sounds of their cannon fire.
Challenges in Sound Ranging: The existing method relied on microphone arrays to detect the lag between seeing a cannon flare and hearing its boom. However, inaccuracies plagued this system due to multiple shockwaves produced by each cannon shot and the limitations of the microphones in detecting lower frequencies.
The Eureka Moment: In a seemingly mundane setting—a latrine in Flanders—Bragg experienced infrasound generated by nearby British artillery, causing an unexpected physical reaction. Concurrently, his colleague William Sansom Tucker observed shivering in sleeping quarters during cannon fire, even when the blast was inaudible.
Development of the Tucker Microphone: Inspired by these observations, Bragg and his team engineered a novel sensor. Their device utilized an ammunition box with a hot wire; infrasound pressure from artillery shots forced air through a drilled hole onto the heated wire, altering its current and providing measurable data. Named after Tucker, this microphone could locate enemy guns with unprecedented accuracy, narrowing their position to within 25-50 meters shortly after firing.
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Conclusion of Segment:
The development of the Tucker microphone exemplifies how critical observations, even in the most unexpected circumstances, can lead to significant technological advancements. Bragg's experience underscores the profound impact of scientific ingenuity in warfare, ultimately contributing to key victories in World War I.
2. The Blue Zones Debate: Longevity or Misrecorded Age?
Timestamp: 04:39 – 09:23
Transitioning from historical wartime innovations, the episode delves into the modern fascination with longevity through the lens of Blue Zones. Aaron Mahnke presents a compelling narrative that not only celebrates these regions known for their high concentrations of centenarians but also introduces a controversial challenge to their legitimacy.
Key Points:
Origins of Blue Zones: In 2004, a study in Experimental Gerontology identified regions where people lived significantly longer. National Geographic reporter Dan Buettner popularized the term "Blue Zones," highlighting areas like Okinawa, Sardinia, and Loma Linda, where inhabitants enjoyed not just longer lives but healthier ones.
Lifestyle Insights: Buettner's research pinpointed common lifestyle factors among Blue Zone residents:
Commercialization and Popularity: Over two decades, Blue Zones became a robust brand, extending into books, food products, and urban planning programs aimed at replicating their success globally. The concept gained mainstream attention, especially after being featured in a Netflix documentary series.
Challenging the Narrative: In 2019, Saul Newman of University College London published a study questioning the validity of Blue Zones. Newman argued that many reported centenarians in these regions might be miscounted due to poor record-keeping, often correlated with poverty. For example, his research suggested that in Japan, up to 82% of centenarian claims lacked proper documentation, casting doubt on their actual ages.
Ongoing Debate: While Newman received an IG Nobel Prize—a parody of the Nobel Prize meant to honor unusual or humorous achievements—his claims have faced pushback from Buettner and Blue Zones proponents. They maintain rigorous verification of ages and uphold the integrity of their lifestyle assessments, emphasizing that their research remains robust despite Newman's critiques.
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Conclusion of Segment:
The Blue Zones controversy highlights the complexities inherent in longevity research. While the Blue Zones lifestyle offers a compelling blueprint for healthy living, the debate over the accuracy of longevity claims serves as a reminder of the challenges in data verification and the potential for socioeconomic factors to influence research outcomes. This discourse exemplifies the delicate balance between celebrating scientific discoveries and critically evaluating their foundations.
Final Thoughts
"Feeling Blue" weaves together stories of scientific perseverance and the quest for longevity, illustrating how human ingenuity and the pursuit of knowledge can lead to both groundbreaking innovations and profound debates. Whether through the silent detection of artillery or the scrutinization of human lifespan claims, the episode invites listeners to reflect on the intricate interplay between science, society, and the enigmatic facets of human existence.
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