Hosted by Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa · EN

Pre-show: Project Hail Mary Reconcilable Differences #286: Ain’t Nothin’ Gonna Break My Stride Setlist Bandcamp Luke Bloom — Bad D. H. T. — Listen to Your Heart Apocalyptica Vitamin String Quartet Johnny Cash — Hurt Follow-up: CapEx vs. OpEx (via Andrew Leahey) Bloomberg “Hot lot” (via Anonymous & Matt Jones) Ultra/Neo/etc Is the “iPhone Ultra” the 20th anniversary iPhone? (via Janne Ojaniemi) Did we forget about “Studio”? (via Karan J) What’s the ∆ between an iMac Neo and a Studio Display? (via Zoran Nešić) Time Machine …with lots of small files (via Jon Wilson & Andrew Hathaway) Asimov …with spinning disks (via Ben Mattison & Carlos Pereira) …period (via David Fokkema) lsof Apple agrees to pay iPhone owners $250M for fumbling AI Siri Apple is flirting with Intel and Samsung Apple’s Newsroom post about US manufacturing Apple and Intel have reached an agreement? (Apple News+ link) Ask ATP: How do we actually move files around our Macs? (via Brandon Whichard) Yoink MD5 Do we use a profile/theme for Terminal windows? (via Chris Harper) Prompt 3 Do we use any other IDEs? (also via Chris Harper) LSP Intelephense Post-show: .nofollow Apple developer forum post Symlink .nosync, .noindex, .nobackup Hopper MJ Tsai Apple open-source Swift SE-0529: Add FilePath to the Standard Library Safe Path Handling: Why Secure Filesystem Operations Are Harder Than You Think Members-only ATP Overtime: Non-developers building apps Ben Dansby Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Zapier: Put AI to work across your company—for real. Quince: Elevated essentials and staples that last. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-show: Two thirds of your hosts are sick 🤧 Follow-up: Backblaze & cloud backups Carbon Copy Cloner & Backblaze (via Barry Rubenstein) Support document Maestral Arq’s approach (via Daniel Luz) Neo-ing… other things Mythos What makes this different (via William Moran) GPT-5.5 is equivalent? cURL security/bug reports Severe Linux security issue uncovered using AI AI is still ruining everything See also: MacBook Neo More from Tim Culpan Paul Haddad’s toot showing $25K-$35K Mac Studios for sale on eBay An examination of Apple’s CapEx Apple’s R&D spending hits new record SG&A MG Siegler’s take Project Titan died in Febraury 2024 Ultra all the things iPhone Ultra MacBook Ultra AirPods Ultra iPad Ultra Apple Watch Ultra 4 Mac Ultra iMac Ultra Ask ATP: What size drive should one get for Time Machine? (via Pat Murphy) Post-show: Marco’s Great Saunter Ashokan Rail Trail Saunter Map App Pedometer++ Suunto Race S Titanium Barkley Marathons Documentary trailer Members-only ATP Overtime: Adobe has also forgotten how to make good software Jason’s take Foster Brereton somebehemoth Neywiny Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy eating, made easy. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-show: Mythos Anthropic’s blog post Follow-up: ATP Store Yes, it happened again. The ATP Neo Silver made it! UPenn is an Ivy Kieran Healy’s story Marina Epelman’s thought US News & World Report 2026 Best Engineering Schools Gurman’s transition coverage Tim Cook’s remarks to employees Comparison between Cook & Ternus The Ability to be Hotter New material proves to be more heat conductive Backblaze is no longer backing up cloud storage Backblaze Mac Release Notes for version 9.2.2.878 Backblaze Windows Release Notes for version 9.2.2.877 Response on Reddit Reparse point Additional response on Reddit Backblaze blog post MJ Tsai roundup Alternatives: Arq Parachute for iCloud Ask ATP: What generation is John’s Accord? What’s the plan for replacement? (via Brian Ashe) ATP Neutral: Car Shopping 2014 Honda Accord Which Apple CEO will 💩-can the Mac? (via Jason) How often should Macs be restarted? (via Paul Franz) Bug report Gruber’s take Post-show: Pedometer++ version 8.0 Underscore’s blog post Stephen’s blog post Six Years Perfecting Maps on watchOS Members-only ATP Overtime: Should Apple MacBook Neo all the things? MaxTech’s musing Sponsored by: Aura Frames: Frames for every memory, gifts for every occasion DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

🗣️ ATP STORE IS LIVE! 🗣️ Follow-up: GL.iNet KVM security issues? Mark Wadham’s write-up Dan Godin at Ars Technica MacBook Neo cores 🤝 BMW heated seats? (via Edward Munn) Joe Lion waxes poetic about RAM on Apple Silicon More component delays It’s Ternus time Fashion Cook’s shoes Ternus’s Shirt Cook’s Shirt Johny Srouji named Chief Hardware Officer Tim’s letter New York Times coverage Marco’s blog post Post-show: John quizzes Marco & Casey Apple: The First 50 Years by David Pogue Infinite Loop by Michael S. Malone Revolution in the Valley folklore.org Jason’s recommendations Members-only ATP Overtime: Media consumption & the limits of human perception Stephen Robles’ $3,000 video box Kaleidescape Strato MakeMKV Tom’s Hardware: Audiophiles are full of 💩 Original post One Man’s Dream (Callsheet link) RIP, Ken Fritz Sponsored by: Anthropic: Ready to tackle bigger problems? Get started with Claude today. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-show: Casey requests an app from Marco Roon Nugs 🗣️ ATP STORE IS LIVE! 🗣️ 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Dev: Nuggets of Wisdom Follow-up: Suunto is… not young (via Henri Sivonen) Garmin did beat Suunto to GPS watch though The other neat explainer John was thinking of (via Ben Landsberg) Previously: Eric Portis on Color Spaces Bartosz Ciechanowski on… anything Is Apple running out of A18 Pros‽ 😱 Apple IDs & passkeys (via Vitor) Others with this issue Apple said it’d be fixed… two years ago Stealing TV… may not be so wise. Shocker! (via Nye Hughes) See also: Krebs on Security Darknet Diaries (via David Brownman) Ads are coming to Apple Maps Newsroom AI-generated code & copyright AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted Can coding agents “relicense” through clean-room re-implementation? No right to relicense this project Monkey selfie Claude, rewrite yourself Ask ATP: When Marco goes on a saunter with two watches, are the measurements similar? (via Jason) Why did Marco bother with colocation? (via Stephen Gozza) Post-show: Casey’s silly new toy Alex’s overview Screenshot of a Linux machine Screenshot of a Mac Members-only ATP Overtime: John tries to reach acceptance Apple approves AMD & Nvidia eGPU drivers What if Apple adopted “MPX”-style modules? (via Jan Wedekind) MK1 High Density Rack Mount Bandwidth comparisons Thunderbolt 5 80 Gbit/s symmetric 120 Gbit/s unidirectional for displays SSD (M5 Max MacBook pro, 4 TB) 109 Gbit/s (13.6 GB/s) read 142 Gbit/s (17.8 GB/s) write PCIe speeds on PCIe 5.0 1 lane: 32 Gbit/s (4 GB/s) 16 lanes: 512 Gbit/s (64 GB/s) …as compared to the Mac Pro’s 64 lanes across 4 slots (2,048 GBit/s) 17× Thunderbolt 5’s maximum single-direction speed Internal vs. external SSD 2025 Mac Studio: ~5.5 GB/s OWC Envoy Ultra: ~5.1 GB/s; 8 TB for $2,250 OWC Thunderblade: ~5.75 GB/s; 8 TB for $2,700 PolySoft third-party internal SSDs Kickstarter (ended November 2024) Sponsored by: Leesa: A mattress for every body and budget. Zapier: Put AI to work across your company—for real. Quince: Elevated essentials and staples that last Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-show: The new Ceramic Shield 2 in the iPhone 17 Pro is the real deal UniFi Travel Router Cascades trail Shenandoah National Park 🗣️ ATP STORE IS LIVE! 🗣️ Follow-up: Studio Display XDR price drop‽ 😱 Stephen Robles 1 2 Casey’s snarky toot Tangentially related: John’s Google One price drop John’s upgrade cycle (via Ryan Himmelwright) How much hotter can a Mac get? Mac Studio power consumption Mac Pro power consumption Apple’s implementation of Passkeys (via Ben Frearson) Apple subsidiary fined over $500k for breaching Russian sanctions RetinaDisplays.com CIE 1931 & Apple’s 2026 CMFs They’re more than just a monitor calibration standard (via Eric Portis) The GOAT, Bartosz Ciechanowski Mechanical Watch CIE updates from 2015 On Apple’s CMF Long Island and “mainland” United States v. Maine (via Craig Bowers) The Greatest Podcast Ad Campaign of All Time Overcast link Every other podcast app Casey’s write-up Marco’s letter to John Ternus A Tale of Two Letters Ask ATP: How does Apple Silicon RAM work, anyway? (via Johnny “Decimal” Noble) Post-show: Marco Garmin-watch update Suunto Race S Titanium (Amazon) Garmin Venu 4 Garmin Forerunner 970 Garmin Fenix 8 Pro MicroLED Members-only ATP Overtime: The Claude Code leak & how Claude “actually works” Regex to detect user anger “Undercover mode” (via Aral Balkan) Future plans Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-show: Happy independence day, John! The Great Saunter Pedometer++ The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Tier List: Home Screen Icons More about the flag Follow-up: Overcast transcripts Missed Apex MacBook Neo Tim Cook on the MacBook Neo launch New Ice Book? (via Adrian Bengtson) iBook “Snow” Teardown by Framework founder Nirav Patel Framework MacBook Neo vs. Chromebooks “NFW”, says Henry “This could be a breath of fresh air”, says Ari “Medium” Core and M5 Pro/Max information from Apple Chance Miller at 9to5 Mac Original article 🇩🇪 PCI Express Ubiquiti What about site-to-site VPN for Marco? UniFi Travel Router “Not so fast, my friend” re: Wi-Fi 7 MLO YouTube announcement Blog post Some shadiness from January 🪦 RIP, Mac Pro 🪦 Thoroughly Considered #123: The Last Detail with John Siracusa CUDA Ask ATP: Are we running any iOS apps in macOS? (via Alex Kent) How would we balance new shiny vs. familiarity? (via Michael Brescher Jr.) Post-show: John and Marco bicker about islands Merriam-Webster’s definition of “mainland” Members-only ATP Overtime: 🥚 Update 10 February: Delayed to 2027 20 February: Smart speaker with a camera? The Information Sponsored by: Masterclass: Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire. Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy Claude: Ready to tackle bigger problems? Get started with Claude today. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Follow-up: Overcast & Transcriptions Marco had never seen inside a datacenter What about podcasts that include their own transcripts (via Matt King) Apple Podcasts transcript options <podcast:transcript> tag MP3 ID3 “SYLT” tag What is Marco using for a job queue? Perhaps Faktory? (via Drew Stephenson) beanstalkd Ansible Monitoring & control interface Imagine a Beowulf cluster of the minis… (via Aaron Dippner) System X RDMA over Thunderbolt was added in macOS 26.2 I Ran a Trillion Parameter AI on a Mac Apple Didn’t Have to Go This Hard Apple Insider Mac fleet management advice Apple Business AirPods Max popularity in New York WWDC 2026 Announced Ask ATP What’s the deal with passkeys, anyway? (via Phillip Miller) XKCD Does having an 8 GB RAM computer keep macOS lean? (via Jon Fabritius) Will we get an iPhone or iPad Pro that will use macOS when connected to a display? (via Keith Heaton) Michael Cook’s contrary opinion Post-show: Casey is continuing to quiet quit his Synology DS1621+ Ubiquiti UNAS Pro Casey’s NUC Channels Proxmox Tailscale on YouTube Derek Seaman’s Tech Blog (the extremely helpful listener 🥰) ESPHome Syncthing & rclone Proxmox Backup Server Transmit Forklift Members-only ATP Overtime: How Apple will add touch support to macOS Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Babble On: Localize your app on iOS, macOS, and Android Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Follow-up: You’re welcome, world Formula 1 A brief, renewed pitch to watch this season Cameras Are not a large portion of the coverage (via Matt Rigby) Failures don’t [usually] matter (via The Racing Line) Great camera overview video The other perk of in-car footage (via Eric Fox) On getting Sky Sports replays (via Brendan Webb) Rosetta A deep dive from Colin McKellar Instant Final Cut Pro deprecation warning (via Tom Obarski) iPhone 17e teardown MacBook Neo Gruber on the camera & mic on-screen indicators Apple Platform Security Guide On Apple Exclaves (Medium link) CPU benchmark correction (via Philipp Sommer) SSD benchmarks (via Vito Traino) Andrew Marc David’s review M1 MacBook Air benchmarks General Apple Silicon benchmarks AmorphousDiskMark MacBook SSD benchmarks John’s and Marco’s hands-on impressions Teardowns Tech Re-Nu iFixIt Video Blog post AirPods Max 2 Newsroom John wins the bet (Overcast timestamp link) Apple’s compare page Overcast beta now has transcripts! Mac Mini Vault Green Mini Host FileVault over SSH launchd XPC Post-show Neutral: BMW i3 Revealed The Verge Ars Technica Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s 27 OSes and Liquid Glass Gurman on 15 February Gurman on 15 March Sponsored by: Leesa: A mattress for every body and budget Zapier: Put AI to work across your company—for real. 1Password: Award-winning password manager trusted by millions of users Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-show: Casey brings us back to Anniversary Corner Related episode of ATP Follow-up: An explanation for John’s post that broke containment (via Thomas Dickson) MacBook Neo John’s theory about color & clamshells The M1 MacBook Air was American Walmarts only. (via Pierre-Luc Gagné) Aside also via P-L: does the Neo run Rosetta 2? MacBook Neo inputs 🤝 iPad Air inputs (via Andrew Larson) SSD speeds (via The Verge) The logo iPhone 5 intro video is what John was thinking of (via Peter Puleio) Jason’s review Dave2D’s review Teardown Tyler Stalman on the Neo running “pro” apps Performance Cores vs. Super Cores New in Xcode 24.6β3: CPUFAMILY_ARM_SOTRA (H17S) (via Brendan Shanks) H17S is the missing M5 Pro identifier from iOS 26.3 RC Quinn’s review M5 Pro & Max are on N3P; M5 is N3E Baidu leakers Super cores (“P-Core”) 4.61 GHz 10-wide decoding Performance cores (“M-Core”) 4.38 GHz 7-wide decoding ~70% the performance of a Super Core Dual operating mode from efficiency cores Efficiency cores (“E-Core”) 3.05 GHz 6-wide decoding Andrew Cunningham at Ars L2 cache Super: 16 MB Performance: 8 MB Efficiency: 6MB Minimum clock speed: Super: 1,308 MHz Performance: 1,344 MHz Efficiency: 972 MHz Fusion architecture (via Frederic_Orange) MacBook Pro Storage pricing (via Richard Allen) MacBook keyboard glyphs (via Dan Moren) Environmental progress (via Andrew Leahey) TOSTracker Example individual comparison Third-party displays (via Dan Boyle) Pro Display XDR or Studio Display XDR? (asked by Imthaz) Studio Display XDR UFO Test MKBHD’s review states it has 12 GB RAM 🤭 Studio Display XDR white paper (PDF) (via Kevin Sliech) Superwide viewing angle Timing controller (TCON) Calibration Display optimization modes Formula 1 news Drive to Survive (Apple TV link) Dad jokey-est promo video (Also on YouTube) 2026 season preview F1TV vs. Apple TV Link accounts Romain Grosjean’s Samsung Galaxy S26 Privacy Display MKBHD The Verge Post-show: Marco’s Garmin adventures Great Saunter Injinji toe socks Altra Torin 8 wide shoes Garmin Venu 4 41mm Garmin Forerunner 570 Garmin Fenix 8 Suunto Race S WorkOutDoors Pedometer++ Members-only ATP Overtime: The future of x86_64 on macOS Tahoe 26.4 warnings Slightly more detail from Ars Technica Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Claude: Ready to tackle bigger problems? Get started with Claude today. Quince: Elevated essentials and staples that last. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!