Comedian Margaret Cho + Actress Jacqueline Bisset

Summary

Podcast Summary: Adam Carolla Show featuring Margaret Cho and Jacqueline Bisset

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Episode Information

• Title: Adam Carolla Show
• Guests: Comedian Margaret Cho and Actress Jacqueline Bisset
• Release Date: February 5, 2025
• Description: The #1 Daily Downloaded Podcast in the World, known for unfiltered humor and candid discussions on pop culture and everyday life.

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1. Introduction of Guests

Adam Carolla kicks off the episode by welcoming his guests, Margaret Cho and Jacqueline Bisset, highlighting their illustrious careers in comedy and acting respectively.

Adam Carolla [00:00]: "Margaret Cho, comedian, actress, musician, comes in, spills the dirt. Also, Jacqueline Bissette, legendary actress, is on the show as well."

2. Security Anecdotes and Show Experiences

The conversation delves into Adam's experiences with security while touring, particularly an encounter at Ben Shapiro's show where miscommunication about concealed weapons occurs.

Adam Carolla [02:02]: "You don't know? Ben Shapiro has a lot, a lot of security, real security around him."

Margaret Cho adds her surprise regarding the extensive security measures around Ben Shapiro, discussing the finer points of security protocols for public figures.

3. Encounters with Other Comedians

Adam shares a heartwarming story about meeting the legendary Yakov Smirnoff and their collaboration on a short stand-up segment at a comedy club.

Adam Carolla [07:00]: "We did five minutes between the opener and the feature, and it was fun for the audience."

4. Critique of Contemporary Music: "Statutory Rape Rock" and Motley Crue

The duo transitions to discussing problematic themes in certain music genres, specifically critiquing songs like "Statutory Rape Rock" and expressing disdain for bands like Motley Crue.

Margaret Cho [15:48]: "Every time I hear one, I'm like, oh man, girl, get out of my mind."

5. Food Criticism: Passion Fruit Iced Tea and Miniature Tomatoes

Adam passionately critiques modern culinary trends, focusing on the ill-conceived introduction of passion fruit iced tea and the ubiquity of miniature cherry tomatoes, emphasizing taste over aesthetic.

Adam Carolla [23:16]: "Passion fruit iced tea sucks. It doesn't taste like iced tea."

Margaret Cho echoes his sentiments, lamenting the compromise of flavor for visual appeal.

Margaret Cho [30:11]: "Cherry tomatoes, the scourge of the sage."

6. Introduction to Jacqueline Bisset's Segment

Jacqueline Bisset joins the conversation, and Adam expresses his admiration for her extensive filmography, including recent works like "Lauren and Rose."

Adam Carolla [92:10]: "What's different about acting now versus when you started? Is it a skill? Do you feel as if you've gotten better at it over the years?"

7. Acting, Career Evolution, and Personal Growth

Jacqueline discusses her evolution as an actress, the challenges of adapting to modern filmmaking, and her personal growth over a 50-year career. She reflects on her upbringing and the influence of her parents on her artistic pursuits.

Jacqueline Bisset [94:27]: "I was just incredibly intense and really into the work. I never saw that my role was less than stellar."

8. Discussions on Sexuality: Bisexuality and Trans Issues

The conversation broadens to include discussions on bisexuality, societal perceptions, and trans issues. Margaret Cho and Bianca Censori contribute insights into the complexities of sexual identity and societal acceptance.

Adam Carolla [73:58]: "If you're gonna become a male or female, we gotta throw your old tweets out."

9. Sociopolitical Commentary: NFL's "Choose Love" and Corporate Messaging

Adam expresses skepticism towards corporate social messaging, particularly criticizing the NFL's "Choose Love" campaign as superficial and contradictory to their actions.

Adam Carolla [147:33]: "But it's really just made with a bunch of natural resources and like vulcanized rubber and metal and shit we tear from the ground."

Margaret Cho reinforces this perspective, highlighting the inconsistency in corporate advocacy versus actual practices.

10. Personal Stories: Adam's Evacuation from Malibu Fire

Adam shares a personal and harrowing experience of evacuating his Malibu home due to wildfires, emphasizing the chaos and lack of preparedness he encountered.

Adam Carolla [50:44]: "Everything got damaged. Just not my place. But I'm now just staying in hotels so I no longer can watch the shows I would have normally watched."

11. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode winds down, the guests and host reflect on the discussed topics, reiterating their stances on contemporary issues, and promoting their respective projects.

Margaret Cho [133:21]: "Well, I got some news. Kanye West's wife, Bianca Censori, will not be punished for her Grammys nudity."

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Notable Quotes

• Adam Carolla [23:16]: "Passion fruit iced tea sucks. It doesn't taste like iced tea."
• Margaret Cho [30:11]: "Cherry tomatoes, the scourge of the sage."
• Jacqueline Bisset [94:27]: "I never saw that my role was less than stellar."

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Conclusion This episode of The Adam Carolla Show offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and critical discussions on topics ranging from the integrity of corporate social messaging to the evolution of acting careers. With engaging guests like Margaret Cho and Jacqueline Bisset, listeners gain insights into the challenges of modern entertainment, societal expectations, and personal resilience in the face of adversity.

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For More Information:

• Margaret Cho: margaretchow.com – Find out tour dates and performances.
• Jacqueline Bisset: Recent work includes "Lauren and Rose" available on Amazon Prime.

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Note: Advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections have been omitted to focus on the substantive discussions.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

So in today's show, Margaret Cho, comedian, actress, musician, comes in, spills the dirt. Also, Jacqueline Bissette, legendary actress, is on the show as well. Mayhem's got news. And we'll do all that right after this.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, comedian Margaret Cho and actress Jacqueline the set, plus the news and trending topics with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now a man who thinks like that Pink Floyd song, We don't need no Department of Education, Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the chick in a minute. You get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Love that about you. Mayhem's in studio. Margaret Cho is going to swing by. Jacqueline Bessette. Oh, one of the really hottest chicks of my childhood is Jacqueline Bessette.

[Margaret Cho]

I get leather off Margaret Cho. I gotta be honest.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, well, there's gonna be a lot of leather floating around this room. All right, Plenty to talk about. Was on the road, doing a bunch of shows and started in Boca Raton and then went to Naples. And it's all good. Good crowds, good shows, everything's good. A couple things that aren't. Gotta get into those. I'm also curious. You know when people mispronounce things and sort of shorten things and they're talking to you and you go, what could your batting average be with this idk? Like, hmm, idk?

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

You don't know? Ben Shapiro has a lot, a lot of security, real security around him. He requires a lot of security.

[Margaret Cho]

Really.

[Adam Carolla]

Lots of death threats.

[Margaret Cho]

Who's trying to take out Ben Shapiro?

[Adam Carolla]

Ben was probably several years ago, the number one, most death threatened Jewish American. Yeah. He gets tons of death threats.

[Margaret Cho]

Oh, damn. I'm surprised.

[Adam Carolla]

He says a lot of things that anger a lot of people. And he's Jewish, and that's not a good combo, but he has security. And when I was in Florida, I said, well, as long as I'm coming to Ben's neck of the woods, maybe we could sit down and I'll do your show and then maybe you'll do my show. Which he was nice enough to do. And you pull up and you see security outside. You know, X ray guys, we talk.

[Margaret Cho]

About MP5s, big bulge, biceps, bald heads.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, this type of stuff. Tactical pants. Everyone was packing and tactical pants and lots of tactical. And we went in, there was more security in. And they're concerned, and that's their job. And I get it.

[Margaret Cho]

I Don't imagine you getting patted down.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I mean, I think they're practical security guys, which is they know who I am and they know I'm gonna be the guest on the show, so I'm not a threat. But Rudy, who's traveling with me, who's opening for me, is traveling with me. They don't know who he is. Oh, have more questions for him and whatever, that's all fine. But before we go in to the actual part of the event or the actual part of the facility where Ben is to sit down and do the interview with him, as we're going in that door, one of the security guys who appears to be a little, maybe a little Cuban background or whatever, as Rudy and I are going through the door, he goes, counsel. And I said, what? And he said, counsel. And I said, I don't conceal. I said, oh, do I have a concealed weapon? Yes. I said, no, no, I don't. He went, oh, okay, go ahead. But what is your batting average on saying counsel to people who walk, to celebrities who come walking in to do an interview to comedians? Like, what is your batting average? It's not gonna be good. It's not gonna be good because first off, you're not saying conceal. But also, I'm from California, we don't conceal weapons. And I'm a comedian. So this is not. You can't just say. Even if you pronounce conceal perfectly, I still wouldn't really know what that meant, given my background in the state that I'm from.

[Margaret Cho]

He's asking if you're in the closet.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. He could say, do you have a concealed weapon? And I would go, no. But if you just go counsel when I walk by then no, I will never. We will never know what this is.

[Margaret Cho]

Well, if you did conceal weapons, like, you would know that he's saying that, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, first, if he said the word conceal versus sort of cancel because he was doing a Cuban version of conceal, which sounded like counsel when Rudy and I both stopped and just looked at each other and went, counsel. Because that's what he's pronouncing it that way. So even if he. But here's what I would argue. Let's not leave so many question marks. Just say, do you have a concealed weapon?

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

In which case I would go, no. And if you said, do you have a concealed weapon? I would still say, no, cuz I'd have some contacts to conceal.

[Margaret Cho]

But that's a lot of words in English.

[Adam Carolla]

I guess so. I guess so. Anyway, no problemo. Went in, did the interview, had a good time, sat on set. Beautiful, fine, nice. But lots of, lots of security.

[Margaret Cho]

I will say that, wondering, like, I don't know, it's fascinating because I, you know, Ben Spiro says some shocking things to me, but, you know, nothing that rise to the level of, let's take him out, what the hell? I don't understand.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I think part of it is he makes enough money and he gets enough death threats that I don't know if he needs it or not, but he makes enough money and he gets enough death threats. Anyway, that was good conversation. And then I went to Naples and was doing a bunch of shows and walked out after the early show, back in my dressing room and there was a legendary comedian, Yakov Smirnoff standing there. And I was like, jako said, oh, I've seen your show. So, so good. Enjoy. Watch your whole show. And it was very nice, very sweet sweetheart of a guy. Always known that interesting sort of philosopher comedian as well. Anyway, hung out. I said, well, before the late show, you want to go out and do five minutes? You know, it's always funny. The funny thing about human wiring and comedians is this guy, Yakov Smirnoff has done the Tonight show with Johnny Carson 31 times, performed for President Reagan and everybody. He's done shit you can't even imagine. Big time comedian. We're at off the Hook Comedy Club. There's a late night show, about 275 people sitting out there eating nachos. And when I said to him, you wanna do five minutes? I could tell he got nervous, like fast. And that's the beauty of the human nature, is it not? Yeah, yeah, the guy's been there, done that, made movies with Robin Williams, made movies with Richard Pryor, and like I said, done the Tonight Show 30 times, still gets butterflies, little butterfly when I want to do five minutes.

[Margaret Cho]

That's beautiful. That's nice to hear.

[Adam Carolla]

So he went out and did five between the opener and the feature, and it was fun for the audience. And then he asked me if I wanted to do his podcast, which was there. I went to go do standup shows. I didn't know I was going to do four podcasts along the way, per se, but I did his podcast and then he said, I said, well, if I'm going to do your podcast, we're all set up. You should do my podcast because I want to talk to him. Anyway, so we did that. We just did it set up on the stage at the club, like Monday morning or something. Like that before I took off.

[Margaret Cho]

What was the security like at Yakovs?

[Adam Carolla]

Not only was there no security, but I never thought about this. There were people. There was a couple that wandered in to the comedy club at noon on Monday, and their thing was, well, do you guys. Is Tyler Fisher gonna do comedy here? And they're like, yeah, in May. All right, we'd like to buy a couple of tickets. These are old time floor, oldie Florida people literally going down to the comedy club. Hello. You open? Yeah. I mean, there's. We like to buy some comedy tickets. Like. Like. Like you have to go to the airline to buy. You'd have to go to the airport to buy tickets for a flight. That's what they were. They were coming to the Comedy Store to buy tickets to a comedy plot twist.

[Margaret Cho]

The elderly assassin team there to kill you.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. So I thought that was quaint. Not all good news, though. Not all good news.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. What's the bad news?

[Adam Carolla]

Weird customer service. Everyone's a prick now. Everyone's either bitchy or they don't know anything. And they won't just admit they don't know anything, and they won't go find someone who knows something. So I go to check into the hotel. It's a nice hotel. And I got my black American Express card, which will give you an upgrade slinging it, right? So I go, I give the guy the black card. And I go, now, if you have an upgrade available, then this will get me an upgrade if it's available. And then he says some, you know, he does hotel talk for fully booked, you know, we're fully realized or something like that. And then I go, okay, so there's no upgrades. And he goes, well, there is a twin queen suite. And I said, what do I have? And he goes, you have a king suite. And I said, oh, so is then the queen suite. Is that an upgrade? And he goes, you know, it's different. Some people like it. I go, okay, but I want to know if I can get an upgrade. So I'm in the king now. Well, there is the queen. There's the twin queen suite. I go, okay, is that better? And he goes, I like the king. And I go, okay, I just want to know, is it an upgrade? I don't know if it's an upgrade, but it's different. I said, but I get an upgrade. So is it an upgrade? Well, look. Look at the king. And if you don't like it, then you can check out the queen suite. And I said, but is the queen suite an upgrade? Is it better? And he goes, some people like it better. And I go, look, how much is it? How much is it? How much is a queen? How much is the king? I'll figure out an upgrade. And he goes, the prices vary depending on the season. And, like, when you. And I was like, okay, just give me a fucking answer. Can you give me an answer? He couldn't. But my whole point is, he could have just gone, your king is going to be $618 a night. And we have a queen available, too. And that's 731. In which case I'd go, okay, if it's more expensive, then I'll take it. But you can't describe it. You cannot say to me what this is. You won't let me.

[Margaret Cho]

He was saying that art is subjective.

[Adam Carolla]

There was that. Which didn't matter. But what I don't like is that I'm asking the same question and you won't answer it because you can't answer because you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. And I really don't know whether it was better or not as good. And I. So I just said to him, I go, what if we just go look at both of them? And then he goes, well, what if you look at the king and you don't like it? And I'm like, I know, but I don't like it.

[Margaret Cho]

Compared to what?

[Adam Carolla]

Compared to what? Anyway, so then we got a flight back, and the flight back is on JetBlue. And I go, can I get an upgrade to first class? And they go, we're full up, so no upgrade to first class. And then they shut the door. About 10 minutes before the flight, Dr. Drew and his wife are sitting in first class, and I notice there's a whole open seat in first class. And so I say to the flight attendant, who are now all angry because they're there for our safety, I say to the flight attendant, I go, is that an open seat in first class and can I upgrade? Can I buy that seat? She goes, I'm sure that person's in the bathroom. And I'm like, the door's been shut. I don't see anybody in the bathroom. That person's not in the bathroom. This is an open seat. And you guys shut the door. So can I buy that seat or can I get in that seat? And then she goes like, yeah, in the bathroom. I go and I sit down, sit about 10 minutes. And I'm like, nobody's gone back to that seat. There is nobody in that seat. So I go back up front again and I go, this is the part I hate about life because now I'm going to get yelled at. Except for I just want to give you money to get in this seat. You know, it's open, it's in first class. Why not? So I go back up there and I go, it doesn't look like anyone's in that seat. Can I upgrade? And she goes, that seat's broken. Okay? So it's okay. Five minutes ago, the guy who had the seat was in the bathroom. But now that, by the way, can we just cut to the chase? Just yell buzz off. Just because that's really what, really. What we're just saying is buzz off. You know what I mean? Like, hey, can I buy that seat? Just say buzz off. Instead we got to get into the elaborate lie of the guy's in the bathroom. Except for when you tell me the guy's in the bathroom. Now I'm sitting there waiting for the guy to come out of the bathroom. And then when he doesn't come out of the bathroom, I'm coming back again because I'd like to. It's a five hour flight. I like to sit there. So now the seat is broken. Now I would take a broken seat in first class over a functional seat and coach any day. By the way, it looks pretty damn good from here. I think I could make it. But the stupid rules. But the point is, is we've stripped away everyone's ability to know anything or make any kind of executive decisions. Back in the day, they would just go, yeah, yeah, go ahead and sit down. Nobody's sitting there, if you don't mind. I said, it doesn't recline. But if you don't mind, go ahead and have a seat. They would never do it. It's all fucking lawyers. It's all regulation. It's all everything now.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

The other thing I notice is Rudy, the aforementioned Rudy, my opener, who I was on the road with, sent me. Dawson and I, we, we've like to do a little something called statutory rape rock. These are all those songs about getting with. Getting with young girls, you know, all those 70s.

[Margaret Cho]

Every time I hear one, I'm like, oh man, girl, get out of my mind.

[Adam Carolla]

Like all this. Like they say no and Taboo and all this. And I never get why they even sat down and wrote that song. But I also want to say, like, a lot of these songs where they're talking about 15 and 16, is there a physical difference between 19 and 15? Like, you know what I mean, like at 18, are you just a used up old moccasin or something? Like, I don't know anything. 18 year old feet like of age female that I've went, well, her fucking. She starts smoking at 17 and a half. Now she's used up, you know what I mean? Like what, there's nobody. You can be sun blasted and wrinkled up and bad everything at 42, but not at. There's nothing you can do to yourself between 0 and 18 that can make you unhot. If in fact you're a hot chick.

[Margaret Cho]

I think it's the shock factor. Back then you had to like shock everybody. Ooh, you know what I mean? Getting with the young girl.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, and also you in terms of rhyming. You can say 15, 16, 18, 19. You're not rhyming it with anything. There's no reason. It's all just one syllable. 19.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

If you wanted to, you could rhyme 20, you know, right?

[Adam Carolla]

So anyway, Rudy brought this attention. I don't know why people like Motley Crue. I don't like any of those bands, especially Motley Crue. But here's what he sent me. And this is why I don't like Motley Crue. Because this sounds like a parody of an 80s hair band song. I don't know. I think only dumb people like Motley Crue.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I like Motley Crue.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, sorry, bro. It's too simple for me. She's only 15.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

She's a real, real reason that I can't sleep.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, hold on. She's only. She's only 15. I don't even really know. I get the difference between being with a 23 year old and a 63 year old, but once you get down to 15 versus 18, all rules, societal mores, everything aside, I just don't think 15 is better. Do you? What? What do you guys go talk about?

[Margaret Cho]

Bad guys get murdered for this kind of thing? Yeah. What.

[Adam Carolla]

What do you want to do? Chicks in the 10th grade? All right, let's just be practical. She does not have her learner's permit yet. You have to go pick her ass up and you got to deal with her dad. Like when you go to her house and stuff. You know what I mean? It's like, wouldn't you rather have a 19 year old who had like a dorm room in college in a car? Okay, but Anyway, she's only 15. You say illegal, I say legal. Never been my scene. Legal's not his thing.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, it's never been his scene.

[Adam Carolla]

I.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Like hell, I'm out Of control.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, God, they're so. They're. They're so bad. It's. It's insultingly bad. It's insulting.

[Margaret Cho]

Dawson is rocking out Bad Bear, though.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, but what. All right, hold on. This song. You can pause it. Okay.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

This song wasn't written in 1952. It was written in the mid-80s. These are modern times. Yeah, these are modern times. It's not some person just doesn't raise their hand. And also. What? You. Why are you obsessing over a 15 year old?

[Margaret Cho]

No, but the thing is, Motley Crue is like the crazy party. They were the archetype of, like, wild, out of control rock and roll band. Everybody's slam hammered and, you know, some underage girls slip in there every once while.

[Adam Carolla]

It just feels burdensome to me to be with a 15 year old. I. There's nothing she can offer that a 19 year old couldn't offer more of, is what I'm saying. Just the driver's license alone. You know what I mean?

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I mean, you want her to be able to like.

[Adam Carolla]

Where are you taking the 15 year old, by the way? Knott's Berry Farm. Like, you can't go bar hopping or clubs or clubbing or whatever.

[Margaret Cho]

This is all very uncomfortable to me.

[Adam Carolla]

It is.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You don't need. You can say. What's the first lyric again, Dawson? You can say she's only 18. You can say she's only 19. You know, she's only 15.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. You're missing the whole. These guys are trying to be shocking. Like, the reason you don't like the way it sounds is because it sounds like that on purpose. They're going really big, the real 80s band, you know, and they're going, really? If they said 17, oh, she's going to be 18, so. But they say 15, it's like, oh, these guys are dirtbags.

[Adam Carolla]

They're going for it. Well, then why don't they go, she's only 11.

[Margaret Cho]

See?

[Adam Carolla]

But then why not shock? Why not shock? Why not really shock? You know, she's only nine. No, she's only seven.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, what's the difference? I would be more shocked if she was only seven.

[Margaret Cho]

The whole grass on the field, play ball thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, is that what it is?

[Margaret Cho]

That's what it is, bud.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Well, it's a horribly insulting rock song by band that never lets me down in terms of sockitude, which is Motley Crue. Also, be careful, be weary. When you see people doing a cartoon version of what a rock and roll band is supposed to be. It probably means they're not really a rock and roll band. They're doing what they think a rock and roll band would be. Real rock and roll bands, sort of. They live the life, but they don't dress like a cartoon caricature of a rock and roll band, which is what Motley Crue does. All right. Although Tommy's a good dude. The other thing. And then we'll bring in Margaret Cho. Right? She's here. Yep. There's a new scourge, people, that America has been caught off guard with once. Once again, that people don't see. Okay? It's a culinary scourge now. We had to deal with it. I went through it with passion fruit iced tea.

[Margaret Cho]

Oh, no.

[Adam Carolla]

So the first thing they do is they give it a euphemistic name. They give it a name. Passion fruit Iced Tea. Passion fruit iced tea sucks. It doesn't taste like iced tea. No one who orders iced tea wants a scented candle flavored iced tea. They want goddamn iced tea. And passion fruit iced tea also ruin the Arnold Palmer. So you've ruined iced tea and you've ruined two drinks. You can't mix them and get an Arnold Palmer anymore. And they kicked out iced tea and they brought in passion fruit. But I don't know. I'm looking at you, Dawson. I think passion fruit iced tea is starting to go the way the dodo. You couldn't get anything but passion fruit 10 years ago. Now people have gotten their sanity back.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I think people got their sanity back. But it may be a part of the whole we want to know what's in it thing that's going around and if you know what's in regular brewed iced tea. Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I guess. Here's my thing. I don't think anyone liked it better than iced tea. They just got what they got.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It was easier for the restaurant.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. And so eventually people never cleaned the machines.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So maybe they're worried about getting people sick.

[Adam Carolla]

Either way, there's a new scourge and passion. This country went through a good 15 years of trauma from passion fruit iced tea. And now it's these mini grapes tomatoes, these miniature cherry tomatoes. They fucking taste sour. They're chewy. I was. Okay. But again, euphemistic titles. Honeycomb, Sweetie Yellow Pear, Rapunzel, Tiny Tim. When they give it their fucking sweetie names and you go, oh, Tiny Tim or Little Rapunzel or a tiny little Sweetie pear Honeycomb. They suck. They're fucking chewy. So you take a Tomato that is chewy and acidic and bitter. And then you just call it a little sweetie and you replace my fucking tomato. My Roma tomato or my beefsteak tomato, which is the best. And listen, you can say beefsteak tomatoes euphemistically named as well, but there's no better description for that tomato. A big slab of beefcake. Okay, I go out in Naples and I order avocado toast. All right, all right, Now I want a fucking slab of tomato on top of my avocado toast. But I get these little burnt offerings, these little pussy. Chewy. Yeah.

[Margaret Cho]

You bite into them, they vomit back into your mouth.

[Adam Carolla]

They vomit into your mouth. They taste like shit. Nobody likes them. Now there's something going on. They last a lot longer than a tomato, and that's what's going on. And people go, oh, it's a little mini. And people are so stupid that they get caught up in the aesthetic over the actual flavor. So I had to order slices of tomatoes to supplement my avocado toast because there's nothing you can do with these things. And all they do is fucking roll off. They're not part of the sandwich. There's nothing. It's a pure aesthetic. You might as well just spray paint golf balls pink and put them next on the side of your plate. Then I go back to the hotel the following morning. Oh, yeah, and they got a buffet. And they got one of my favorite things, which is bagels and lox. Now, the thing about lox is they're a little powerful, so you gotta step on em. Yeah, you toast the bagel, you put the cream cheese on it, then you put the lox. Then you put a nice slab of tomato, salt it up, a little pepper. Then you put. Put the onion on top of that and you got a sandwich right there. You got bagels. All right, the picture that I'll show you from before of the cut tomatoes are the tomatoes from the bagels. And luck. So how you gonna take these little mini chewy offerings? What are you supposed to do, like bedazzle your bagel with them? You need a wheel, you need a slab of tomato. And they cut these things up. And I don't know what you're supposed to do with them. Are you supposed to take a bite of one and then take a bite of the bagel? You can't incorporate it. It sucks. They're bitter, they're sour, and they're chewy and they suck. And they're popping up everywhere, everywhere. Now, don't believe me. I just got off the Road. Completely traumatized by these little tomatoes that are now ubiquitous. And taking the place of our tomatoes. You order a salad now that come with it on the salad. I walked in. I came from the airport with Dr. Drew and his wife. Came from the airport because he flew out of Fort Lauderdale and we're on the same flight. And they got back and his wife had ordered a delivery of groceries because they'd been gone for a week. And when I woke up this morning, I opened the fridge, There was a whole container of these little miniature tomatoes and a clear staring me right in the face.

[Margaret Cho]

Slap in the face.

[Adam Carolla]

Slap. She did on purpose. You know she did on purpose. Oh, don't kid yourself.

[Margaret Cho]

I think you're becoming not welcome over there.

[Adam Carolla]

Maybe she's trying to drive me away. Show me like a. Like a cross to vampire. No garlic to stay in the culinary world.

[Margaret Cho]

A horse head in the morning.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Jesus Christ. People do not get drawn into this. It looks cool. They're all different colors now. They got these cutie little names. People like it because they go, oh, look, it livens up. They taste like shit. They're chewy. And you're replacing. You know what I said to Drew Dawson? You love salsa. If you tried to make salsa out of these fucking tomatoes, people throw it right back in your face because they're chewy and they're shitty and they taste bad. If you can't make salsa out of it, then how can it be a good tomato beef steak? But the beef steaks only last so long.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's why they're going cheap, these little buggers. Because there are these little chewy little marbles that last three weeks in your refrigerator or the one at the restaurant.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

We got to step up. We got to start fighting back. We. Someone has to say something. Now. You need to go to the management of the hotel and go, I'm trying to do bagels and lox. I can't do it with these little round little burnt offerings. You offer it. Go get some tomato. Slice it up. Let me put the tomato on top. It's everywhere. It's everywhere.

[Margaret Cho]

Cherry tomatoes, the scourge of the sage.

[Adam Carolla]

They're little pussy little balls.

[Margaret Cho]

I agree. I know. Again.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, but here's the thing that interesting about our society. I don't think anyone likes these things. But yet we'll accept them.

[Margaret Cho]

That's capitalism, baby.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. They're showing up on every fucking salad now. Every salad.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Because we're conditioned to accept, Conditioned to fight. But is there. Are they easier to grow? Are they more manufactured.

[Margaret Cho]

Except cherry tomatoes. Has to end right now.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll tell you what's going on.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

There's gotta be a reason. The reason is always money.

[Adam Carolla]

Find the multicolored ones. Find. There's a packet I was showing Andrew before the show. This is what was in Dr. Drew's house. Okay, let me. Dawson, let me clue you in. A lot of it is women, because the aesthetic is something women. Any woman I've been with goes, oh, look at that. That's so beautiful. You know, I mean, it looks amazing. They take pictures of food. We take pictures of them taking pictures of food. But they take pictures of food. You know what I'm saying? And you can find other. It's a petite medley. But if you find other pictures of this petite medley, you'll see, oh, there's purple ones and there's yellow ones. They all taste like shit. They all taste like ass. But women go, look at them.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Look at the color.

[Adam Carolla]

Look at them. Yeah. You know what I'd like to do with women? I'd like to find. I'd like to find an infant. I'd like to find Adolf Hitler as an infant and show them all pictures of it and have them go, oh, look at him. And I'd go, that's my great, great grand. And they'd go, oh, he's delightful. He's a delight. And then I'd yell, that's Adolf Hitler. So it can't all be aesthetic. It can't all be aesthetic. Ladies, this is the holocaust of tomatoes that we're looking at here. But it's done in a pleasant way. It's shit. These are shit tomatoes. They look good and they're cheaper because they'll last 100 years at the restaurant. The other stuff's gonna go bad in two days. So they buy it, and then they cut it up, and then they throw it on the salad. And then we go, oh, look at that. Look at that. It tastes like shit. So we need to step up right now.

[Margaret Cho]

Flip side is, if I get.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, how can I put this on my avocado toast if it won't sit on it? It rolls off.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, yeah. I don't.

[Adam Carolla]

How can you put it on your bagel and lox? How can you even use it?

[Margaret Cho]

It's a carnival game.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Bianca Censori]

John Travolta, he is just an amazing guy. And I'm not, I, I'm not sure if you really understand how gay he is. He may not actually be a homosexual, but he act gay. I mean he, like, I, I hagged him for like a year and he's like not just like homosexual. He's like Oscar Wilde gay. Like, he's like, he's like Lord Byron gay. Like, I mean, he'd be wearing a cravat to soak up the semen. Like you know, you don't like, you know, like that kind of, he's the kind of queen, he'd like to suck a cock with his pinky out.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Like Margaret Cho is on the Adam Carolla show.

[Adam Carolla]

Margaret Cho's doing music now, Stand up tour, podcast, all kinds of all Kinds of stuff. The music's coming out on Valentine's Day. Is that correct?

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, that's correct. My album Lucky Gift is coming out.

[Adam Carolla]

Is music always been a part of your world?

[Bianca Censori]

I've been doing music since 2008. So, yeah, I mean, it's always hard because I think when comedians do music, people are scared that it's gonna be terrible or, like, it's gonna be too good. Like Steve Martin. He's too good.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Bianca Censori]

He's such a great musician.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I don't know any. I never said that guy sucks on the banjo because I feel like all banjo players seem to be impressive to me.

[Bianca Censori]

That's true.

[Adam Carolla]

So I've never heard. I've never been like, that guy's kind of fair to middling with the banjo because I don' Anything to compare it to. But, yes, he's a gifted guy who probably could have picked any sport he wanted because he's such a great athlete.

[Bianca Censori]

In the analogy, he can kind of do everything.

[Adam Carolla]

But on the other hand, the other day, I was listening yesterday, Eddie Murphy's Party all the Time came on, and then Don Johnson's Heartbeat came on. And so it doesn't always work out for the celebrity to cut the album.

[Bianca Censori]

I think those are both bangers, though.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Yeah. But Heartbeat. If you find Heartbeat Dawson and the aforementioned John Travolta.

[Bianca Censori]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Let her in.

[Bianca Censori]

Is this Heartbeat?

[Adam Carolla]

This is Heartbeat rockin. Not dated at all.

[Margaret Cho]

She's only 15. Oh, oh.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't care what you say?

[Adam Carolla]

You can give it away?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Your money don't mean much to me?

[Adam Carolla]

I've been out on my own?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Gonna go alone now?

[Adam Carolla]

Cause that's the way it's got to be. See, this is a time where, if you had a popular show, they just go make a song. Right?

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah. I mean, this was what. This was like Miami Vice era.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Bianca Censori]

I mean, he could do no wrong. This was, like, actually a great idea to have. I can see him in, like, a pink suit.

[Margaret Cho]

Oh, I thought he was going white, but yeah, pink's better.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah. Or like a yellow. Like a maze.

[Adam Carolla]

Yellow.

[Bianca Censori]

I like it.

[Adam Carolla]

But it's not like he can sing. Right.

[Bianca Censori]

It's, you know, it's all right. I mean, he can. He can. He can definitely carry it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. You brought up John Travolta.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Have you heard Let Her In?

[Bianca Censori]

I have not.

[Adam Carolla]

Boy, you get up on stage and make fun of John Travolta, but you don't know Let her In.

[Bianca Censori]

How dare I?

[Adam Carolla]

Hey. Hey.

[Margaret Cho]

Wow. So 70s here, right? Of course, the 70s, he knows.

[Adam Carolla]

Gonna let her in my heart, My life, My life.

[Bianca Censori]

I find it beautiful.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, yeah. You're like trying to sell me off of it.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on. There's a part where he does struggle a little toward the end when they. When they go a little more crescendo at the end, struggles a little. Could still have some jizz in his mouth. I don't know, maybe struggle gargling it. I don't know. Listen, I'm not. I'm not an ear, nose and throat guy. I don't know, but I'm just saying. Yeah, all right. Oh, yeah, it's coming. Let her in my life. Oh, here it comes. All right, here it comes. Are you ready? Here it comes. Oh, no, wait. No, you may have hopped a little. Wait, maybe hop too far back.

[Margaret Cho]

Wait.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, he's going high. Here, hold on. Oh, it's coming. Yeah, you gotta jump back to the middle. Sorry. Anyway, Margaret, Joe, I don't want to miss that part, but I'll play to you at Dawson. Dawson will find it.

[Bianca Censori]

I do think that he is of the time. He's also talented in musical comedy. So you had Grease? He actually disinvited me to the 40th celebration. 40th year celebration of Grease, when Olivia was still alive. And I'm good friends with the director Randall Kleiser. And we were gonna do a big, big party to celebrate Greece. And he asked that I not come.

[Adam Carolla]

Because he heard your stand up routine.

[Bianca Censori]

I think he's mad at me.

[Adam Carolla]

Is there anyone who isn't gay who we think is gay?

[Bianca Censori]

No, I mean, I don't think.

[Adam Carolla]

What about Wolverine guy? What's his name?

[Bianca Censori]

Hugh Jackman.

[Adam Carolla]

Hugh Jackman.

[Bianca Censori]

I actually don't think he's gay. I think he's actually heterosexual, but loves the musical theater.

[Adam Carolla]

So I guess the question is. I agree with that, but my question is sort of how does. I'm basically saying, look, if everyone thinks you're gay, you're probably gay. Just because I don't know how that works. How did everyone arrive at this place?

[Bianca Censori]

I think that there has been just so much talk about John Travolta over the years. And then when I worked, I worked with him on Face off, the movie. I was with him every day for a year.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. You played an FBI agent in Face Off. One of the greatest cinematic triumphs ever. Cinematic triumph.

[Bianca Censori]

It's a really fun movie.

[Adam Carolla]

I love that movie.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, me too. But I ended up eating with him every day. And he and I would eat like he Would eat a whole boysenberry pie to himself. Like a nine inch.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Bianca Censori]

Like a straight nine inch to the head every day.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Margaret Cho]

Pretty gay.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Bianca Censori]

We would just talk about beef Wellington and pie, things wrapped in pastry. He was like a king. So I don't know if. I don't know if he's actually homosexual, but he acted so flamboyant to the point of. I mean, like a king would act.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, but he is a. He's like a certified commercial pilot too. Which is kind of a straight argument for some reason.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Although if you're a woman, it's more of a gay argument, you know?

[Bianca Censori]

I don't know. Do you know? I don't know any gay pilots, so I can't.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[Bianca Censori]

I'm not sure, but I think you can do this.

[Adam Carolla]

No, it's possible.

[Margaret Cho]

We're just saying.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm just saying, if you said, is this woman a pilot? A certified commercial pilot. I went, I don't know anyone. She's lesbian. I'd go, okay, so maybe she's got a better shot at it. But if a guy said the guy was gay, I would say no. So it's weird. It's like I would. I don't think of pilot is gay.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But then John Travolta mixes it up a lot.

[Bianca Censori]

He mixes it up. You know, he had a long, very, very famously romantic relationship. Marriage and kids, everything, so.

[Adam Carolla]

And a lot of tragedy too. His kid died, his wife died.

[Bianca Censori]

Incredible tragedy. It's true.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, should we make fun of letter in a little bit more? As long as we've gotten over the tragedy. Oh, here it is. Yeah. Oh, here it comes. All right. That's the non singing part. Yeah.

[Bianca Censori]

I think he just didn't have time to prepare.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, they should have rolled. It was probably just finished off a boysenberry pie from Dupars.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah. And he just had to ran in and just put this down.

[Adam Carolla]

So I forgot Face off, like, that's the greatest.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I love that movie.

[Bianca Censori]

I do too. I do too.

[Margaret Cho]

I find it kind of strange that your reasoning for his homosexuality was boysenberry pie.

[Bianca Censori]

Well, it's more that his attitude of like the pie contained birds that would fly out. You know, he was just such a king like presence that you could almost imagine miracles like that happening, you know?

[Margaret Cho]

I get it. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So music been a part of your world.

[Bianca Censori]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

But you're aware that when people who aren't known for it do it sometimes they can be terrible.

[Bianca Censori]

It can be so terrible.

[Adam Carolla]

Where did you. And you had. God. What was your sitcom from all those days?

[Bianca Censori]

Oh, All American Girl from 1994.

[Adam Carolla]

What was that?

[Bianca Censori]

It was.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I remember it. I remember it well, but I mean, it must have been crazy for you.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, where do you come from?

[Bianca Censori]

Well, I come from San Francisco, and I was doing standup comedy when I was 14, and I started to just get a lot of attention around the early 90s when people were developing shows for comics. So I got swept up in that era of, like, you know, Tim Allen and, you know, Seinfeld, of course. And so they wanted to have another show that was about a comic. And so that's what I got that deal out of.

[Adam Carolla]

How was it doing standup when you're 14?

[Bianca Censori]

It was really juvenile and dumb. Like, it's like, I don't even know why, but I just wanted to be an adult, and I now wanted to be a comic. I loved it, so I just knew.

[Adam Carolla]

And how was your family with it?

[Bianca Censori]

They were kind of like, they didn't understand what it was. Like they didn't understand what comedy was. There's no equivalent in Korea. There's a longstanding stand up comedy tradition in Japan. They don't really have it in Korea. Korea is more like sketch comedy and like, I don't know, like clowns, but not like somebody talking with authority about things as stand up comics are.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. It's crazy. I was just talking to Yakov Smirnoff about being a comedian in Russia, and he's like, well, you'd have to get licensed.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then every year you'd turn in all your material.

[Bianca Censori]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

And then they would vet your material, and then they'd cross off stuff and give it back to you. And you'd have to get a permit. You were literally like, you were an inspector, like a meat inspector or something. Except for you were a comedian.

[Bianca Censori]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

And they were so, you know, meticulous or whatever they were back then that you would get vetted, certified, licensed. Here's the material. Cross off a few words. This is what you can do for the year, and no doing anything different than this. And the people that owned everything was owned by the government. So it's like if you couldn't go into some club and start talking.

[Margaret Cho]

Well, Gabby has a few plans for you. Adam.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I gotta get vetted.

[Margaret Cho]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, how'd you do during the fire?

[Bianca Censori]

Speaking of that, wait, I evacuated. I have three cats. And that was really scary.

[Adam Carolla]

Scary?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Bianca Censori]

I'm like, I actually live really close to here. Nice studio. Did you have to evacuate here?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I don't live here, but I was in Malibu.

[Bianca Censori]

There's a lot of valuable stuff here, but that too. Did you have to evacuate?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, 1000% and been gone. This is like a one month anniversary for me of not being going home.

[Bianca Censori]

You still not there?

[Adam Carolla]

Nope.

[Bianca Censori]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm staying at Dr. Drew's house.

[Bianca Censori]

Oh, that's good.

[Adam Carolla]

I like it.

[Bianca Censori]

It seems like that there's such fire.

[Adam Carolla]

Safety, you know, general safety with the doctor, I think. And I've always liked hanging out with Dr. Drew.

[Bianca Censori]

He's a good guy and I always.

[Adam Carolla]

Thought he was a good guy. And I. And so this is a weird little slumber party.

[Bianca Censori]

I like that.

[Adam Carolla]

Over at Dr. Drew's house.

[Bianca Censori]

So then you are stay. Have you been recording anything with him too? Like the good old Love Line days?

[Adam Carolla]

We do a podcast together here and that's out a few days a week. And I think I was on his show in his studio at his house, but I'm just staying in his son's room right now. And he likes it. I like it.

[Bianca Censori]

I don't know, maybe keep it. Maybe just say, are you going to go back? When are you going to go back home?

[Margaret Cho]

Mm.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, so it's interesting because I can't get any definitive timeline on what if the power's on.

[Bianca Censori]

Oh, wow.

[Adam Carolla]

I can't figure out what there's like, they'll let you back with an escort. And to me, I was like, all right, I'll pick up a prostitute and take her back. But there's no power. I assume that's what they're talking about. You gotta get an escort to go back. And then there's no water, there's no sewage, there's no gas, there's no electricity. So if you have no utilities, you can't really stay where you want to.

[Bianca Censori]

Stay, you know, but everything is like, okay, like, nothing got damaged.

[Adam Carolla]

Everything got damaged. Just not my place.

[Bianca Censori]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

Everything in front is gone, and many things to the right and the left are gone. It was also kind of weird in that when I got my place, which is sort of up on the hill above pch, I went and looked at probably seven or eight places on that hill and then arrived at my place at the end. But as I did get an escort and did go back a couple of weeks ago and drove over the hill or through the hill, many of the places that I looked at are gone. And even a place that I wanted and somebody got before I could get it? And blah, blah, blah. That's gone. So it's real luck of the draw shit, you know?

[Bianca Censori]

Are you gonna still live there?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's kind of a. It's a weird hand dealt cosmically because I now, from my living room and my master bedroom, can see the ocean and the white water and the sand. Whereas before there were homes there. And I got a good view of the ocean, but I was just looking at the ocean. I wasn't looking at the sand. Now every one of those homes is gone.

[Bianca Censori]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

And I literally just stare at the sand from where I am. So on one hand it's like, well, your view just got better. But on the other hand, everything around you is burnt to the ground.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So I don't know.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But I will stay if they ever let me back. They don't. It's a weird. There's a vacuum of information. I keep saying, like, it's the power on. Well, the power's like. What you could do is you could call a restaurant that was. Was half a mile away and call them and go, are you open? Is your power on? But they wouldn't guarantee your power a half mile. You know, it's kind of clusterfucky.

[Bianca Censori]

It is, it is. But I mean, I, you know, I'm grateful that my house is standing. It's fine. You know, everything's fine. I'm back, the power's on, everything's okay. But I had to, like, get cats. I have three cats and trying to get them in the carriers. I was so scared.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Bianca Censori]

But my energy was so insane that I came down the stairs and the cats were. Two of the cats were sitting in their carriers. Cause they knew, like, oh, we're gonna fucking die. She's serious. We better get. We can get.

[Adam Carolla]

What do you make of that?

[Bianca Censori]

I think they just hadn't felt me be that panicked before. Like, the smoke. I could see the smoke coming over the hill and like the red of the fire in the sky. And I was just like, we gotta get the fuck outta here. So I just was emitting that fight or flight energy. So I think they tapped into the animal fear, I think. But I didn't take anything except my cats and my dog. I just. There were so many things that I should have taken. What did you take?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, well, socks. Didn't take enough socks. But I do appreciate people that are sending me socks.

[Bianca Censori]

Oh, good.

[Adam Carolla]

America has a heart. I'm getting socks sent here from strangers and I wear the socks they send me because. Because I'm out of socks. I was evacuated three weeks earlier with another fire that people forget about. There was a fire three weeks earlier and it was the one that was more toward Pepperdine and less toward the Palisades, which I showed on either end of Malibu. So I'd already evacuated, been gone a night or two, and then came back. So when I was being evacuated again, I was sort of like, well, this isn't going to last more than a day or two because we just did this. And it's obviously lasted much longer than that. So I didn't pack with a fire in mind. I packed with a. This is just a procedural thing that they need us to do, but we'll be coming back. So I don't need to take any valuables. But really the sad testimonial for me is when the fire was raging and I was thinking about, well, what is left behind for me? And I don't have anything there. I don't have jewelry or keepsakes or whatever. It's kind of a beach housey kind of thing. I mean, the good news, I would say is most of those people who lost their house on PCH lost their beach house. And they live in Bel Air or Beverly Hills or something. And all the scrapbooks with the grandkids and the pictures and the awards and all the people with their Tony Awards and all their Oscars and Golden Globes. That's in Bel Air.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's. The Beach House is 1400 square foot cottage where they hang out and drink Corona. But they don't have all of their life's work there. And I had a model of a car. It sounds retarded, but it's a stupid model. But it's of my car and it was really expensive and I was picturing that. That's all I got other than that. It's socks.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, and I don't like I said jewelry or whatever. So I'm not back. I don't know when I'm going back. Going to Dr. Drew's house. Good.

[Margaret Cho]

So how's your music? It's like punk rock or something.

[Bianca Censori]

It's power pop. I make power pop. So I wanted to make a Bangles record. I wanted to be like the fifth member of the Bangles. I wanted to be the other Go Go. I wanted to be at the Lilith Fair. It's something that could slide right in to Lilith Fair era.

[Margaret Cho]

I could see you in that.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I love girl pop bands.

[Bianca Censori]

Me too.

[Adam Carolla]

I love the Bangles, I love the Go Gos. But I also love Like Kim Wilde and Josie Cotton and those sort of Mickey songs. I love them and stuff. And those kind of K rock youth stuff I would listen to. I love. I was just listening to Mickey. Is that Kim Wild?

[Bianca Censori]

Tony Basil.

[Adam Carolla]

Tony Basil. There's Josie Cotton, there's K, Tony Basil, there's Kim Wilde. I think like I love that shit.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, me too.

[Adam Carolla]

But then there's always. There's deeper Cut Go Go songs that are better than the pop ones that get a lot of spins on the radio. That you guys should go investigate is what I would say.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, I love the Go Go's and I love. I just love women's voices and rock. And so I wanted to make a record that was all about that and. And I've gotten to spend a lot of time with Cyndi Lauper and Joan Jett over the years. And so I've picked up some tips. So I'm grateful for my education in rock.

[Margaret Cho]

You sing on the tracks?

[Bianca Censori]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Margaret Cho]

And you play guitar?

[Bianca Censori]

I play pretty much everything that has strings. Although I'm not good, but I play. Yeah. Enough to write.

[Margaret Cho]

And how about like the band? You know, like, how do you do that?

[Bianca Censori]

Well, it's. I work with a lot of different people. I worked with Garrison Star, who I. I absolutely love her. She's an amazing singer, songwriter and she produced it and she's in my band. And so we're doing a live show here in LA on February 13th at Largo.

[Margaret Cho]

All right. So yeah, it's great.

[Adam Carolla]

Pretenders, man.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, I love Pretenders.

[Adam Carolla]

Chrissy Hines, she's so cool. I totally agree.

[Bianca Censori]

She's so cool.

[Adam Carolla]

I love her. I love Mystery Achievement. I don't know why. I've always dug that. I know people think I'm a misogynist, but I love all that. I love all girl power pop music.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, me too. Me too. Chrissy Hinde is amazing. She still rocks. She's still out on tour all the time. Like it's really incredible.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. It was one of the few times I've ever done my. I'm gonna go up to that celebrity thing. I've interviewed her a time or two. I love the Pretenders. I've always loved the Pretenders. I love their first album. I love their second album. They have more. There's also one of those bands where the songs that get the most spins like Brass in Pocket, not as good as like Mystery Achievement. And other songs that even. They have some really rockin songs. I was at a event in London at a high end car race and she was the entertainment that night at the big ball. And I just stood there and I was like, I've interviewed her before. I know who she is. I'm such a huge Pretender fan, and I would never do this, but when she walks off stage, I'm gonna go say something. I'm gonna go say hi to her.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it was at a big event at, like, Lord Chichester's manor up on the hill. Like, it's a big. It's a Goodwood festival, and Lord. Gotta think of Lord's last name. Okay. Here's how much money this guy had. The car that was the model that I was worried is gonna burn down, that I have the actual car of. He flew it to London so that I could drive it at his event. He put it on an airplane and he flew it there. So that kind of money. And she did all the hits. And the second she stepped off stage, she stepped to, like, a back area that had, like, a curtain and stuff. It wasn't a proper venue. It was like a, you know, tent. Big tent with stuff. And I was like, I'm just gonna go say hi to her. And she walked off stage, and I just, like, pulled the tent curtain open, and I walked back there and I looked around, and I just saw her ass climbing into a town car. She walked off the stage and walked right into a car. Like a Range Rover with the back door open. She said, pull that Range Rover up, open the door. I'm not even gonna knock. And when I walk off of this stage, I'm gonna walk straight into it and leave. And she wasn't there for one millisecond, and that was it. Yeah.

[Bianca Censori]

That's incredible.

[Adam Carolla]

But I learned a valuable lesson.

[Bianca Censori]

What's that?

[Adam Carolla]

I should have just sat there. I should have sat there. I should have never tried that.

[Bianca Censori]

I think you should have said hi. I think. I mean, I. You know, you're a big star, too. You're. You're iconic. Absolutely. So she would have. She would have been excited to see you.

[Adam Carolla]

Lord Marches.

[Margaret Cho]

Who's.

[Adam Carolla]

Who's Lord?

[Margaret Cho]

He.

[Adam Carolla]

He has a castle on the hill, and he has a race up his driveway to his castle.

[Bianca Censori]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

And then he gets Chrissy Hines to, you know, probably throws.

[Bianca Censori]

What, an event.

[Adam Carolla]

£50,000 at her and gets her to swing by.

[Bianca Censori]

That's like. That's just like an amazing. It could be like a movie, that kind of event.

[Adam Carolla]

It's crazy. Yeah, it's. It's crazy. I have no idea what goes on out there in the. You know, out in The English countryside. It's crazy.

[Margaret Cho]

You mean like Illuminati orgies?

[Adam Carolla]

You know, there's a lot of people that got a lot of money that do a lot of things and we don't really.

[Margaret Cho]

We don't want to. We don't want no beef. Elon.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, have you seen? I. I don't know. They did go like, oh, it's Hollywood, you know, with these P. Diddy parties and stuff like that. Or. Or Epstein island and stuff.

[Bianca Censori]

I never got to go either invited.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't go to any of that.

[Bianca Censori]

I never got. I mean, but I never even heard about it. Like I didn't even know. Like, I'm just like, wow. I have no idea. I had no idea.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, good for us, I guess. We have no idea.

[Margaret Cho]

Well, I've been to afterwards with the mop. Yeah.

[Bianca Censori]

Cleaning up all the baby oil. So much baby oil.

[Margaret Cho]

So much. We just use dawn on that. Yeah.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah. Really.

[Adam Carolla]

I love the fact that the baby oil is such a big part of this for some reason.

[Bianca Censori]

Just that he stocked up on it.

[Margaret Cho]

It's a red herring. It's a throw you off all the terrible crimes this guy has allegedly done.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, baby oil is not. Petroleum products are not friendly to condoms.

[Bianca Censori]

No.

[Margaret Cho]

So that's what I mean.

[Bianca Censori]

For skin. It's not, it's not a good lubricant for skin.

[Margaret Cho]

Oh my God.

[Adam Carolla]

You gotta use lube. Like water soluble lube. Right.

[Bianca Censori]

I think they also did have Astroglide.

[Margaret Cho]

Look, you know, you guys are trying to talk to the guy who's the most experienced. Like I think Diddy knows a thing or two more about petroleum jelly than you guys.

[Adam Carolla]

He may know something.

[Margaret Cho]

Expert level.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So sorry. Start off at 14. Family doesn't really understand. They don't understand.

[Bianca Censori]

But then I was able to make a living by the time I was 18 and I was doing television. So do you remember in that era we had like evening improv and half hour, comedy hour and all of the.

[Adam Carolla]

We're talking about late 80s, early 90s.

[Bianca Censori]

Late 80s, early 90s.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. There were tons of shows for standups. They did, you know, three to five minute clean itch, clean it.

[Bianca Censori]

Clean sets. And then I got on the Bob Hope young comedian special. And then my parents were like, oh, this is great.

[Adam Carolla]

That meant something to them because it's Bob Hope. Yeah.

[Bianca Censori]

So then it was like, oh, well then obviously this is a career now. So then they didn't bother me so much. But then I was like, by the time I was 18, I was on television pretty Regularly Star Search.

[Adam Carolla]

Was it like too much too soon or was it good?

[Bianca Censori]

No, it was good. It was never. No, I don't think when you're a comic, it's never really too much too soon. I mean, you know, because you have to work for it. It's not like rock stars where they have the mass adulation for comics. It's so humbling because you have to start from the beginning every time you go on stage.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but I mean, I was talking to aforementioned Yakov Smirnoff and it's like his shit just blew up overnight. Ronald Reagan and Soviet Union and all this stuff and. And all of a sudden he was just like everywhere, all the time. And then the Berlin Wall came down and the Soviet Union broke up and he was out of work, like immediately. His entire. It was like there were guys who did like Richard Nixon impersonations and then Richard Nixon's out of the office and now what act do you have? So it can happen, you know.

[Bianca Censori]

That's true, that's true. Like those like that sometimes where it's. The fame is so enormous, like you can't recapture the cultural moment.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But yours was a little steadier.

[Bianca Censori]

I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

But did you find that you had to diversify, like do some acting, do some singing, do some writing?

[Bianca Censori]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

Have a bunch of different irons in the fire?

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, I mean, I always did just because I could only get so many jobs. They didn't have like acting roles for Asians that much. So it was like really hard to do that. So I was always just trying to figure out what else can I do? Can I like write a book? Maybe that'll work. Or do more stand up comedy or do music, you know, whatever it is I could do. I would just try to get any job.

[Margaret Cho]

I don't know. You were the Asian lady, TV lady for years, like for a good long stretch. Yeah.

[Bianca Censori]

Which is good.

[Margaret Cho]

It's a very interesting place to be, you know. Cause someone had to be like the, you know, forebearer, like the first person out the gate, you know. So I guess that's a lot of pressure and, you know, I know. What do you think about it?

[Bianca Censori]

I'm grateful for that. And the reason why so many. There's so many Asian comics now is they saw me doing what I was doing and got inspired. So people like Ali Wong or Bowen Yang or Joel Kim Booster, they're all really inspired by, by my work. So I'm really. I always hit them up for jobs. I always try to force them to put me in. To be their mom in whatever they're doing.

[Margaret Cho]

Oh, that's great.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so now we'll talk about our story. All those years ago when you came to my home.

[Bianca Censori]

I came to. So I wrote a script.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Bianca Censori]

And I came.

[Adam Carolla]

And I'm not bringing it up to put you on the spot, but I always am interested. Like when people talk about some old man show thing or something. Jimmy will go, this is what happened. And then I'll go, no, this is what happened. We'll have different versions of what happened. So I've never heard your version, so I'm curious of it.

[Bianca Censori]

So I wrote a script that actually. Of a movie that didn't get made, but if it did, I realized, oh, it would probably be a lot like Trainwreck, Amy Schumer's film.

[Adam Carolla]

And you lived up in the Hollywood Hills?

[Bianca Censori]

I lived down the street. I lived around. So I lived on Belden, which was right off of Ledgewood, which I think you were right there.

[Adam Carolla]

I was on Berkshire, but yeah, right in there.

[Bianca Censori]

So it was like half a. Maybe half a mile or something. So I walked down there, and then I had your phone number, and it was by my telephone. My rotary. Rotary phone. And so we had talked about the. I dropped the script off. I don't know if I talked to you when I went to your house.

[Adam Carolla]

You did. You said, I'll walk over. Yes. And I was like, you don't have to walk over. You could drive over or something. I remember thinking it was peculiar, but then I realized you were so close.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, it was really close. Then I went home, and then I had your number next to my rotary phone, and I got super drunk. I had a drinking problem. So I got super drunk that night, and I think I called you, and I don't remember anything else, but I was so mortified that I did that that I didn't drink alcohol again for eight years.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. I scared the booze out of you. And I started doubling down after that night. Yeah, you came over, you had a script. It was a little bit sexual, as I recall. And so the thing about me is you can't offend me. Everything is interesting to me, but I grew up, up with one of my friends putting me in a headlock and smacking me in the head. And I don't have personal space or boundaries. Like, a lot of people go, that guy's invaded my personal space. It's also different for a woman because as a dude who played football and boxed and stuff, I don't really have a personal space that you can invade. So I don't really care. You coming over drunk didn't. It was all amusing to me. I found it interesting more than any kind of invasion of privacy or space or anything.

[Bianca Censori]

It was like 30 years ago. And, oh, yes, led to my recovery. I drunkenly hit on Adam Curl and he felt I was too disgusting to fuck. And so he ridiculed me on his radio show, let's My Recovery.

[Adam Carolla]

I did not think you were too disgusting to fuck. I was. I would be in the hat of anything that happened to me during that day. I would talk about that night on the radio. And this was a unique situation. Very unique that I shared. But I did not say you were too disgusting to follow.

[Bianca Censori]

I said that you don't follow me. What is that I should follow her? No, but what I think is this was 30 years ago and we were so hot then.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's true.

[Bianca Censori]

We were so adorable. If you think about that now, like, you look back and you're like, oh, my God. Precious baby children.

[Adam Carolla]

I know.

[Bianca Censori]

Beauty. The youth and beauty.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, it was pert near 30 years ago. It wasn't quite there, but it was over 25 years ago. And then later I ran into you at Kathy Griffin's house.

[Bianca Censori]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And that was when you were in recovery, I guess, or doing the steps.

[Bianca Censori]

And I said, I'm never going to sexually harass you again. You know who was right next to us? Paul Reubens.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, was he?

[Bianca Censori]

He was right next to us. I actually moved him to get to you.

[Adam Carolla]

Those are some interesting parties Kathy used to throw. And I kind of wonder. I was friends with Kathy before any kind of celebrity. Cause I knew her from the Groundlings way back in the day. And I would go to parties at her park, like when she just had roommates in a small apartment and stuff like that. And then later she kind of turned into Kathy Griffin. And now I feel. I kind of worry about her. I don't worry about her, but I feel like she's suffering a little bit, like, mentally, like, she seems very.

[Bianca Censori]

She's been through a lot.

[Adam Carolla]

She has, But I don't feel like she's coping well or something. I've interviewed her. She's been on the show. I always get along with her and we're always good. But I don't know if there's a thing, maybe you can speak to it. When I was younger, I noticed people just got older and they put on cardigan sweaters and went to bed earlier and ate Dinner five and sort of shuffled around and there seemed to be a version of getting older that I don't see anymore. Now there seems like no one ever. There was no 65 year old that talked about their anxiety. When, when I was a kid, it was just. You're just old. You go to bed early, you try to not to get fat or something. You had stuff you liked, you start doing crossword puzzles or something. Is there some weird pressure? I mean, as a woman, you have to look young no matter what. Like a woman could just get old back in the day. You just, you start wearing your hair shorter, you dress a little differently, you didn't need to look like Miley Cyrus. You were getting older. Like, we accepted you and it seemed saner.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, I think that's right. I mean, like, I don't wanna have to, like get plastic surgery or do any of that stuff. Like, I'm so against that, you know, I don't wanna have to.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but if there's a weird pressure to constantly look 29 and a half, then definitely exists. When you go back and you look at these sitcoms, you're like, oh, aunt Bee was 51 at the time. And it's like, are you 51? Her hair's up in a beehive. She's matron elite. She's wearing like support hose and stuff. I mean, it's crazy.

[Bianca Censori]

We're not really allowed to age in the same way. It's like, well, the Golden Girls were in their 40s.

[Margaret Cho]

No.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Margaret Cho]

You're shattering reality for me.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, it's so crazy.

[Margaret Cho]

Oh, then it's less embarrassing that I beat up all the time to them.

[Bianca Censori]

Oh, well, less.

[Adam Carolla]

Less, yes. Yeah. So anyway, I do. I feel like Kathy, I don't know, maybe is her own worst enemy or something. Puts too much pressure on herself or something.

[Bianca Censori]

She's funnier than ever, you know, she's super funny, she's a great comedy. She's out there, she's on tour, she's, you know, I think that she's had a lot of tough stuff happen. You know, she just got divorced and so that's like a tough thing as well. So it's hard. But I think that she's on the rise. I think she's coming back.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I root for her because I like her. And for you. Have you ever been married?

[Bianca Censori]

I have been married, yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you have been, yes. Divorced.

[Bianca Censori]

I'm divorced.

[Adam Carolla]

Did the guy take money from you?

[Bianca Censori]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, man.

[Bianca Censori]

Which is great.

[Adam Carolla]

I wish he did. I was laughing.

[Bianca Censori]

I mean, not A lot. Like he did sell, but not a lot, because why?

[Adam Carolla]

He had dignity.

[Bianca Censori]

We had a prenup. We had a pretty good prenup, which I was really smart about. And, you know, and he's a good guy. So, I mean, you know, I didn't do so badly, but I'm never getting married again because I don't want to. I don't want to mess around with that. I just don't. I don't think I want to live with anybody again except for my animals.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm. Why is that?

[Bianca Censori]

I like to live in the middle of the bed. I like to eat whatever I want. I like to just make my decisions without having to ask somebody else. So I like that.

[Adam Carolla]

I wonder how much of that is just sort of biological. Like, you don't feel that way when you're 26, you know, but then you get to a certain age and you're like, I like being left alone.

[Bianca Censori]

You know, I do my ways.

[Adam Carolla]

I get it. There's a thing where you. Well, maybe it's a security. Like you don't need somebody fawning over you or worshiping you or something. You just alone, quiet.

[Bianca Censori]

I like it. I like the quiet. I mean, I can have that sometimes, you know, I have relationships. Situationships. Situationships are great.

[Adam Carolla]

Men, women, both.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I never asked this, but is there. When you say bi, is it 52%, 48 or is it just an exact split?

[Bianca Censori]

I don't know anymore. I think it probably leans closer with men just because that's sort of who is interested. But also, you know, there's a lot of women in there. There's a lot of non binary people, trans people, gender non conforming people. So lots of they. Thems. They themselves.

[Adam Carolla]

So you can go trans.

[Bianca Censori]

Yep. Wow. Heavily represented. Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm always jealous of people that have no boundaries. I shouldn't say boundaries. That's not a moral accusation. What I'm saying is, like, they're guys and they just like skinny blondes. So. All right, now you've removed whole continents.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean? And then there are guys who are like, I like a big ass. Okay. You've removed another group of people, you know, or I like the redheads or whatever. That thing is so limited. Right. And then there's. I like everything all the time. And then once you open it up to both sexes, and now you get into transition. Everyone's on the menu all the time and the restaurant's never closed, pretty much.

[Bianca Censori]

But then you get exhausted and then you're like, I don't know, you get a little bit jaded.

[Margaret Cho]

Wait, but what's the angle Is, like, sexuality first, then romance, or romance then? And how does it break down male to female? Is it like a romantic thing with a woman and then it becomes sexual or.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know.

[Bianca Censori]

It's always different. Yeah, it's always different. There's never any kind of real sort of way it happens. It's always different.

[Margaret Cho]

Do your. You think your sexuality developed over life? Like, in a. Like you weren't into girls before, or were you always like that? Is it something from childhood age you already had romantic feelings towards the same gender?

[Bianca Censori]

Yes, as a. As a young person, for sure, I think. And then in my early 20s, I started to sort of realize that I was attracted to men as well. And then that's sort of where it came about.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, women are the societal aesthetic. You know, they have women, you know, supermodels. There's no real male supermodels. So, like, I get the part where young women grow up looking at pictures of young women who are modeling or Barbie dolls or whatever, and they go, okay, I like the aesthetic, you know, so you got that. And then you also have the part where there's no worry of penis and rape and stuff like that. So I get that More women tend to be bi than probably men, although I haven't looked it up. And I also think women are much more sort of malleable. Women can be with an unattractive guy and go, but I really love his personality, and so I'm attracted to him. Whereas guys don't. Much more rigid, you know. So in general, I think women are much better candidates for bisexuality because guys are just more rigid. And I don't know. That's why when women are bisexual, I tend to go, yeah, all right. And when guys are bisexual, I kind of go, I think he's gay, but he's just kind of keeping that title cultural, though. Yeah. Like when Elton John was bisexual for a long time, but he was really just gay, he just wanted to kind of ease into gay, you know?

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, for a long time, I think people would use bisexuality as a kind of a cover for being gay, but a code for being gay. But really, I think there are a lot of people who are legitimately bi.

[Adam Carolla]

I think, and we'll never know, but I think there are women, many more women who are legitimately bi, and a larger percentage of bi men are gay who just don't want to fully go there or discuss that, you know what I mean? Which Is more of a societal thing. Although it's not really, I don't know, 20, 25. Does anyone care anymore?

[Bianca Censori]

I think people care. I think people are concerned about how they appear and how it looks. So men are much more concerned about their image of their sexuality. And I think they don't want to be judged on being bisexual. So there's. There's a lot of bi men who don't necessarily come out as bi because they just don't want to make anybody think that. But then I've been like, with a bi man who wasn't out, and I could tell. Oh, you just like things, you know, for a man to do them. So clearly very bi.

[Adam Carolla]

There's something about me. I've never been hit on by a guy.

[Bianca Censori]

Oh, really?

[Adam Carolla]

In my life. Never.

[Margaret Cho]

I have many times. All the time. Feel handsome every time.

[Bianca Censori]

That's nice.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. That's a compliment. Right? Because gay men are very aesthetic. They like the look, but also maybe there's a vibe where I'm not giving off the vibe. And maybe they're. They probably have better gaydar than any straight guy does. They need gaydar. They're gay.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't really need gaydar. It's fun.

[Bianca Censori]

That's true.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's a novelty for me.

[Bianca Censori]

Maybe you didn't know were being hit on.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a possibility. I like to think that I was, but I never really. Maybe. Well, listen, I've been hit on in the sense where I've been hitchhiking and the guy wanted to know if I want to go up to his apartment and smoke pot. Oh, that kind of hit on.

[Bianca Censori]

That's for sure.

[Adam Carolla]

But that's just spontaneous hit on, you know?

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah.

[Margaret Cho]

So. So you say you have a bunch of trans friends. How are they feeling right now as the world evolves?

[Bianca Censori]

It's scary.

[Margaret Cho]

Why is that?

[Bianca Censori]

Because when you have a president who's saying, now there's only gonna be 2 genders from this state.

[Margaret Cho]

A little more complicated than that.

[Bianca Censori]

Which is basically saying you don't exist. Which is not true. There's so many people who are affected by that.

[Adam Carolla]

Is there trans? Here's my only problem. I try to figure out out who's got their parts. Because I'm not uptight and I feel like you can identify whoever you want. I really don't. I'm not. I don't care, and it's all fine. But I don't want you if you have your male parts going into the ladies locker room. I'd like to figure that one out. But then we used to have all the terms. We'd have, have pre op and post op and transsexual and cross dresser and we'd have all these terms. Transvestite, transvestite. We sort of knew where you were at. But now those terms we don't use anymore or we decided they're not vogue or they're hate speech or something. They're not appropriate to use. But my thing is like, I have a teenage daughter and if you got the surgery and you became a woman, then you'd be fine as a dad for me using the locker room. But if you just were a dude and said, I'm a woman and want to go use the locker room with my daughter, then I wouldn't like it. But you won't let me ask what stage you're in or where we're at. You see what I'm saying? So I don't know why, and I don't know why that's so taboo or why it's even to me it's a pretty straightforward proclamation, which is, is I don't want a situation like the Wii spa where the dude with the cock and the balls and the beer just went to the ladies locker room and hung out with them because that's just a dude and you're probably terrorizing some of the women in there. On the other hand, if that guy's had his procedures done and is, you know, a woman now, then go use that side of the spa. That's the way I feel. But how do you come down on that?

[Bianca Censori]

Well, I think what it is is that when you're trans, it begins in your spirit, in your, in your soul. Like, it's like being trans is a state of your identity that has nothing to do with your body, you know, and of course, like when you're trans, you want to then be able to transition and you know, take hormones and get surgery, gender affirming surgery, whatever that is. But what I think the trans community, and I'm not trans, so I can't even really speak to. But what I know from what I've heard is that it is more than just about the body. It's about your soul, your spirit, your gender is there not in your physicality.

[Adam Carolla]

But how does that solve the locker room problem is what I'm saying.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's something that has to be sort of worked out, I guess. But the main thing I think the trans community is trying to say is that we are who we are. Are all the way inside. And the fact that our bodies don't match is what we're trying to correct.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, I think the solution sounds like it's coming from the other side. I think the reason that they want to use the woman's room if they're trans woman is because they don't want to get beat up by dudes in. In the men's room for, like, you know, some kind of homophobic thing. I think that's really where we're missing the line. The guys on that side, if we're going to have. Have people use the men's bathroom, you can't hassle them in there.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, see, my problem is the system is going to get gamed if you take dudes and you go, look, the only thing we got to ship you to a prison. Now, if you say you're a woman, then we'll ship you to a woman's prison. Then every guy I know would just identify as a woman and be shipped to a woman's prison, because they would much rather be in a woman's prison prison than a men's prison. So there has to be some way to vet this. Otherwise it's gonna be dogs at the airport.

[Margaret Cho]

I did it. Carolla, I'm gonna tell you, it's hard time.

[Adam Carolla]

You went, oh, you were in prison. You were in a male prison, right?

[Margaret Cho]

No, I identified correctly and as a.

[Adam Carolla]

Male ended up in a male prison. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying. All I figured out is, is if you say to somebody, you can't get into ucla, but if you do have some Indian blood in you, like you're 1 10th Iroquois Indian, then you could get into UCLA. Everyone's going to start saying, I have 1 10th Iroquois in me so they can get into UCLA. It's the sad state of the world we're in. And then you gotta go, well, then who does have Indian blood that legitimately can get in? And now we're gonna have to figure it out.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I think that, like, all of that, like, affirmative action never helped Asian people. No, I can't. Really.

[Adam Carolla]

Not at ucla.

[Bianca Censori]

No, for sure.

[Adam Carolla]

No. Because you aren't considered a minority, even though you are a greater minority in terms of black or Hispanic, much less Asians. But you're not a minority on campus at UCLA because of basically the work ethic leading into college. And so you don't get any minority love as a legitimate minority in college, ucla. But now where do you come down on that because, like. Because now Asians are suing Harvard and UCLA and stuff, and they're saying we are being discriminated against. And I go, good, you are. You should sue if you're being discriminated against.

[Bianca Censori]

Yeah. I mean, I just think that everybody that is approaching anything like that, we just want equality. Like, we've lived in such an unequal society for so long that we're just trying to figure out how do we equalize it. And all of these measures aren't perfect, but at least they're an attempt to make a society where we have some level of equanimity.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, yeah, but there's equality and equity, and that's the problem. But so here's what it really comes down to. Everyone goes, Look, UCLA, for the sake of argument, 50,000 students, let's just say. And then you go, well, very small percentage of those are black or Hispanic. So what do we do? And you go, well, we're gonna try to get more black and Hispanics attracted to this. And so what do we have to do to do that? And you go, well, we can monkey around with SAT scores a little bit and start focusing on other things and stuff like that, and it's all good. But at a certain point, it's not enough. They have to tap Asian students on the shoulder and go, guess who's not getting in? And that's where the rubber meets the road now. Because now it's no longer the noble cause of trying to attract more of these people. It's holding back other people that deserve admittance to the college. And that's the part that we have to kind of reconcile. But it's also the part we're always gonna run into. When I was poor and trying to be a fireman, they were like, sorry, white guy. And I was like, I'm poor. I should be able to try to be a fireman. And like. Yeah, but you can't. Cause we need to make room for another group. And so now I'm poor and being discriminated against, and that's where we're at. All right, let me give the album out, because I think. Join us next. Jacqueline Bessette.

[Margaret Cho]

Let's see.

[Adam Carolla]

I got my bio here. Jacqueline Bessette.

[Bianca Censori]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. She's going to join the show. I mean, probably. I'm trying to think. Definitely, anybody, Any male of a certain age will have Jacqueline Bassette baked into their psyche. From the movie class. Oh, Class day for night. Yes. Yes.

[Bianca Censori]

Incredible. Incredible. Long filmography.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, yes, yes. All right. So, Margaret, lucky gift it's available as we speak. Also touring, podcasting. Should we give some dates out or just say where people can find you to find out your dates and tours and performances?

[Bianca Censori]

Margaret cho.com yes, I'm in Tacoma this weekend and then Albuquerque the weekend after. But I'm always everywhere.

[Adam Carolla]

You're always everywhere?

[Bianca Censori]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And you know, if you're gay or straight or bi or trans curious or something. Say hi after the show.

[Bianca Censori]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

I was thinking about the gym, the hotel gym. You know, it's got the treadmill, fine. It's got the barbells, the dumbbells and all that, the tv, the thing and the map to scratch on. But there's always one ambitious piece of workout equipment, like at the wall with the wood and the pegs. I wish I was there. I mean, you would. It's never used. It's too ambitious for me. I'm not going to do it. But they have an ambitious piece of equipment that I'm not using. But it's there. I. If there was the pegboard on the wall, you would use the pegboard. Matthew Modine and Vision Quest. Would you?

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, I would just do it for fun.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Subscribe to Beat IT out on [e-mail] substack now back to the Adam Corolla show.

[Adam Carolla]

Jacqueline Bessette is joining us on a landline which sounds better than the non landline. Jacqueline, can you hear me okay?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

And I can, yes, thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

Good. Well, it's a thrill to speak to you. I'm a fan, as most folks my age are, of Jacqueline Basil. Part of my youth, I should say, and beyond. Done so many memorable films over the years. Of course. Remember from the Deep and Bullet and many, many other films spanning a 50 year career.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Could you find one a little more recent?

[Adam Carolla]

I'll find a more recent effort. Lauren and Rose. Well, that's a more recent one. Available on Amazon prime as we speak. And that is the most recent, right, Jacqueline?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Yes, yes, yes. And it's a really good one. It's a wonderful role for me.

[Adam Carolla]

Is it what's different about acting now versus when you started? Is it a skill? Do you feel as if you've gotten better at it over the years?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

I know I've got better. Yeah. And I'm not nervous and I'm, I, I search out difficulty and intrigue and, you know, things that fascinate me and enjoy saying them enormously. So when it's too simple, it's, it gets a little flat. Did you change, you know, the Whole train. And I think that what being. What's being made nowadays, it's a lot of the year of the. Of odd seven subjects. And I don't really know quite what I think about it. I mean, they're interesting, but I'm not quite sure what I think about them.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you also feel like you were so beautiful aesthetically, that you were given roles that were more for the ingenue and less for the actress?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

And now you're assuming that I thought I was. That I never thought I was either pretty or anything. I was just incredibly intense and really into the work. I. I never saw that my role as being less than stellar.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not assuming you thought that. I'm assuming people that cast you thought that or factored that in that confusion.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

You assuming that. I think I didn't. I very. I was incredibly grateful and thrilled to be working, and I got to work with some mental amazing stars.

[Adam Carolla]

That's absolutely true. And a lot of. I mean, Steve McQueen, Bullitt, what was that like? Was he good or was he tough to work with?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

No, he was good. He was kind. I had to do a test with him, and he was kind. And I really didn't know who he was. You know, I really didn't know who all these actors were. I mean, I didn't have a background in cinema or at all. I grew up without seeing films hardly, except foreign films. And we didn't have television at home. So I came to America not really knowing the classics. Not knowing. Except apart from Marlon Brando, he crossed the line for me. He was the only one I knew, I think.

[Adam Carolla]

And what age did you come out to Hollywood?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

What age? I think I was 22.

[Adam Carolla]

And was it. You didn't grow up around it? So was that always the plan, then? If you didn't grow up around it, how'd that come about?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Well, I was attracted. Once I started going to see films, which was. I was about 15 or 16, I went to see foreign films. I was completely caught up in the. And the magic of it. They were very psychological films. They were not big, you know, to do movies. I saw very few big movies. I saw the Mountain of Everest. I saw Snow White. And I saw a film about. On an opera, a Russian opera called Ugin Onyegin. Those were the three films that I remembered seeing. And then there was, you know, bits of TV I would see at other people's houses. We didn't have television, so I was really fairly uninformed. But I Had great interest. I was very fascinated by ballet and music and interesting personalities. So that I was interested in. But I didn't know. I still don't know a lot of the classic films, the American films, I didn't know at all.

[Adam Carolla]

What did your parents do, and what did they want you to do? Or did they want you to do something?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Oh, definitely. My mother was very much drawn to the arts, and she encouraged me. She put. Do you know what she did? She didn't push me in any particular way, but they put kernels of seeds in my heart by taking me to art galleries, by taking me to very, very good ballet, to playing very good music on the record player. And these things just made me be interested. I did not have. I wasn't spoiled. I didn't do all kinds of glamorous things as a child. But the only thing that really, really for me was the greatest thing was to go and see great ballet. I'd go to Covent Garden occasionally and see Margot Fontaine dance and a few others. But there were a lot of books in the house, books everywhere. And those also were encouraged. And I was kind of a quiet child and a little introverted and also extroverted. I had an interesting thing happen to me when I was about 17. I was at a dinner in Chelsea, in London, and I was sitting next to Roman Polanski, who I didn't know from Adam, but at the end of the meal, he said to me, you are such an introvert, you might make a good actress. And prior to that, my Latin teacher at school had said to me, you are such an extrovert, you might make a good actress. Well, those two conflicting thoughts absolutely blew my mind. I didn't dare think that I could ever be an actress. It was so far away. But the Colonel sort of grew, and that's how it really came, because I didn't know what I would want to do. My father was a doctor, and my mother was my mother. And my brother was away at school. And, you know, it was pretty simple stuff, but I was well educated by my parents a lot, and I was very, very interested in students. And when I left school, which was like 19, I felt like, oh, boy, now this is the beginning of my life. The school part was not horrendous. I wasn't good at it particularly, but I knew that it was setting me up for the future. My interests were going to grow and film and going to see. I used to actually escape from classes when I was at school, the last part of my schooling, and go and see French films.

[Adam Carolla]

The introvert and extrovert part is interesting because I think they both had a point. And I know a lot of people that perform and they do stand up, and I would count myself amongst them. Of going and doing standup on stage and then getting off stage and being kind of quiet and wanting to slide through life without any notice or friction, quietly. And I don't really know how to reconcile that. Who is this person or which one are you? You know what I'm saying?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

What was the onstage part? Were you funny? Did it work?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. I done plenty of stuff on stage that worked. But then I want to. Then I'm very quiet after that, I guess, would be the answer. Like, if I go to a restaurant, I like a booth, you know, where it's just kind of quiet and off to the side.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Well, maybe you had too much attention when you were so good.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. I think it's a job. I think I always just look at it as a way to get paid. And then you stop. I don't know much. I don't know, like, I don't know, prostitution or something, you know, it's just. You do it, you get paid, and you go home, you know? But you may not be that same person when you get home, I guess.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

No, those are your issues. I don't know. I didn't really feel like I had those issues. I. I just was those two people, I guess. And then I added a whole bunch of other characters to them. So it's a quandary. But most good actors, in my opinion, are on the shy side. They're not the ones who get up at parties and show off.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And is it because they get it out of their system with the acting, or you think it's that they're up in their head?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

The stuff that they get to do in their work is they kind of peel the skin back and they can get to those emotions, but those emotions are not just with them all the time. You know, you have to look and you have to dig. And then the more you do, the more you have to dig, because you've already done explanations of things that were before, and you don't want to keep repeating yourself. So I think the process is. I feel that I can get to an emotion very, very quickly now, which I couldn't in the beginning. I was just like. I didn't know what to do with my hands. I didn't know how to do the crying. I didn't know. But then I got in touch with my Emotions. And now I can get there very, very fast.

[Adam Carolla]

Is it harder to memorize stuff as you get older? I definitely find that I'm having more difficulty committing things to memory.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

No, my memory is pretty good. I find it's very hard to remember badly written stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

If it's well written, it's just. You get it. You get the story you follow, you know, you follow through.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. When it's organic and the dialogue on the page sounds like it's a conversation, then it's much easier to regurgitate or it's much easier to commit to memory. Right.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Well, you know, in Lauren and Rose, I had a lot of dialogue and I was frightened of it. And I said, will I ever be able to learn this and do it in this short period of time? We had to do the shoot, but I started early and I eventually got to it. And it's a really rhythm.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

And my co actor, my co star, was very, very helpful to me. And a fantastic listener is. I can tell you haven't seen the film.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. No, but I shall. No, I want. I'll make an excuse. Jacqueline Bissette I have been displaced from my place in Malibu for one month now, and I no longer have control over my TV set anymore. I watch whatever's on at the hotel I'm at. I don't get to, like, download shows and watch as I traditionally used to. What happened to you? There was a fire.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

And that's not a month ago. That's two weeks ago, isn't it? Is it really a month ago?

[Adam Carolla]

It's coming. I was thinking about this when I was driving to the studio from someone else's house. I'm staying in that as memory served. This thing went down on a Tuesday, and this is like the fourth Tuesday since this thing went down not a month and 30 days, but a month and maybe four Tuesdays or something like that. But either way, as an.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Did you lose your house?

[Adam Carolla]

What's that?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Did you lose your house?

[Adam Carolla]

No, I did not. Everything in front of me burned and everything to the side of me burned. But somehow I didn't lose my place. But I'm now just staying in hotels so I no longer can watch the shows I would have normally watched.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

What a bummer.

[Adam Carolla]

It is a bummer. Did you make it okay where you are?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

So it's been hair raising. I've been packing my car up. We'll get moving out, coming back, but, you know, go on and on and on and on. And I've always dreaded this time. I always Felt like I was living in a place which was dangerous and people would say, no, no, you're in Beverly Hills, near Bear. Beverly Hills. They'll deal with it like that. I said, they can't deal with fire if it comes really bad. Strong. They can't. Nothing to do with Beverly Hills protection. It's just, I'm not in Beverly Hills, I'm out of Beverly Hills. But people make that remark as if people who have the luck to have a house are protected by the fact that they're in somewhere near Beverly Hills. It's complete rubbish. I mean, everybody goes, you know, fires a fire.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll agree with that. Yeah. They couldn't protect the Palisades or Malibu, and they're not in parts of Santa Monica. I don't know what they can do with you if you're Beverly Hills adjacent. And yeah, once the winds get to 90 miles an hour, that's pretty much force majeure at that point. But let's get away from tragedy. I just wanted to offer that up as an excuse.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Recently I was looking at something. I was looking at something on you and it was a clip that had to do with the MeToo movement and your thoughts on that. I'm curious if you can share that with my audience.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

I did an interview to talk about Lauren and Rose and I was virtually never mentioned of it. I. I can't even remember talking about all this stuff. I felt like whatever they talked about, what they put in that paper, it was like, I did an interview about that. I do. I mean, what they said was pretty true. But of course, it's more complex than just an outline. It's more complex.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I agree, but that's the new world order, how journalists now work. You talk about a project, you mention it a time or two, they want to get into another subject, hopefully find something a little salacious in there, there and then that's the headline.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

I mean, I'm all. I don't mind talking about it as a subject, but I would like to have known that I was doing that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I agree. And yeah, it is a lot more complex probably than maybe first blush or what we've been talking about over the past several years, but I don't know what. I mean, you had to navigate this system for so many years that you must have had a front row seat to some of this stuff.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Yes, but not really. Not really. You know, I was just so determined that nothing weird or that I didn't want would happen. I said, I'm fine living in England. In the little cottage with my parents and my little life. And I thought, well, that's good enough. There's nothing about Hollywood that's so special to me at that point that I'm going to sell my soul or do things that are just disgusting to me or just make me, you know, piss me off. I'm just not going to. So I'm, you know, I'll be off. I'll just, you know, leave. I'll leave. And that was my bottom line. And people said to me, you were so well brought up, you were so hot, it was so hard to be angry with you and things because you were so, so polite and so well brought up. And people, studio people told me that they said we couldn't, we couldn't ask you to do certain things because you were just so, you know, your politeness protects you a lot from things. And I also, you know, I have good connection usually with men. I love to hear men talking about stuff and I usually had, I usually had good relations with men. I had a very good relationship with my father and I have a lot of respect for men. And I don't, you know, I didn't want to provocate or really, that's really what it comes down to. I think I was pretty secure in my relationships. I didn't feel I had anything particular to prove and I certainly didn't think I was pretty. I didn't know that aspect of me was going to be in the forefront from other people's point of view. I just, you know, I sort of walked towards things as believing that I was going to talk to a human being and hopefully it wouldn't be boring.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it sounds like you had good self esteem and I think a lot of these guys are looking for low self esteem people they can manipulate and you probably didn't come across that way.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

No, I had just lousy self esteem and I still had self esteem on many, many aspects. I have a friend, she says to me, she said you're the only person who doesn't know who you are.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I don't mean good self esteem like thinking you're idea who you are.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Really in terms of your fame and anything. I said, well, whatever.

[Adam Carolla]

Well no, I'm not talking about thinking you're great. I'm thinking more about having a good relationship with your dad and a good relationship with your mom and having a base.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Yeah, well, I think to some degree I did. Not easy with my mother, she was tricky. But with my father I did. He was wonderful. He was a doctor he was so good with his patients. Everybody loved talking to him, which he didn't particularly care about because he wanted his time to talk. You know, he was a good listener. That's something so great. So I think if you meet up any men, you ask questions and you get into that tone of meeting, you can have a very interesting time and not have all the other stuff. Stuff. I met you.

[Adam Carolla]

It's interesting. So you never married, Correct?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

I didn't want to be married.

[Adam Carolla]

But it's interesting that you never wanted to be married when you had that.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Well, I never wanted to be married. I wanted to be married for a short time at one point, after a very long relationship, at which point he didn't want to marry me. That was after like 14 years. But, I mean, there were aspects of it. But I really. If I look at my life, I think, my poor mother, I. God, what was in it for her? What did she. She was just. It was just toil and trouble. It was not anything comfortable, easy, and certainly was nothing to do with the kind of life people have here. She was a very intelligent, cultivated woman, and I don't think she should have married my father, who was also wonderful. But no, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't a good marriage. So I couldn't see any. Any. I still cannot see any advantage to most people, my friends who are married. I always did everything for the man I was with as if I was married.

[Adam Carolla]

But it's interesting that your dad was a good guy and your mom was cultivated, but you don't think they should have been married. Is it because your dad sort of took over his needs?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

No, he was a golf. Very, very good golf player. Golf took over his life. It was all weekend and the days off and. And he was an ex rugby man, and he was a very handsome, very attractive man, and she was. And he used to play the piano a bit. He played sort of a little bit of jazz and stuff. And my mother was playing some classical piano and she was into the arts, I don't know, you know. And she was French, too, partly French. And so there was not a lot. They used to always say, the Scottish and the French have a great rapport. And I said, I'm waiting for it to start, you know, My father was very definitely a Scot, and it was fascinating, but there weren't any really people to emulate around us. And I just remember thinking, my mother's life is really not fun at all.

[Adam Carolla]

But she was around and saw your success and was she able to share in your success?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Well, she wasn't very healthy. She had a lot of problems, health wise. So she shared in a way. But she was, you know, she was very ironic at times. They both were. They were not thrilled. They didn't stop me. But my father said to me, you can go to Hollywood, but when you come back, you don't give me stories about Hollywood and don't tell me stuff about. Don't. I don't want to hear about the gossip and the things and the this. He said, if you read the newspaper and you read all sections of the newspaper, I'll be okay with this. But don't just read the page that's about the. So he's just on and on about that. So I had to read the paper and I tried to read the sports paper occasionally, but he was right. I mean, I developed, you know, more interest in more subjects and I think that was a really good point. But he did not want to be bored by my stories about actors. He didn't think actors were rated terribly highly. Oh, they were funny. The two of them were funny.

[Adam Carolla]

What was his goal for you, or what do you think he would have liked you to become?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Oh, I think he just wanted me to be happy, I think. But he didn't want. He didn't like people to be boring. You know, when he would talk for too much, he would say, stop me now. I'm getting boring. I know I'm getting boring. Please stop me. And I say, no, you're not boring, Daddy. I know I'm getting boring. And he. He liked people who had character and who had. Who made him laugh to a degree. He was just. He was. He was very solid in a way. Not in a boring way.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. But it sounds interesting, but I feel so. You sort of feel like maybe your mom didn't get to live her goals or her dreams?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Oh, I think she was proud of me, but she didn't. You know, she really loved the arts. She loved ballet. She loved music. She played the piano. When I was young, she played the piano well. Then she got ill and she couldn't play anymore. But she was interested in that side and she followed that. She would take me up to London. We didn't live in London. We'd go to exhibits and would occasionally go to ballet performances if we could afford it. If she could afford it, which was very rare. But she kept her path. I think she was exhausted. The garden was too big. It was a lot of manual labor. And, you know, she was. I look back at her, she was tricky but she was a really bright person. She could really get to the center of things. You know, she could just find the point to the question or the answer. Yeah, you know, if you were having.

[Adam Carolla]

Conflict and what, what would your definition of tricky be like if you said someone was a little tricky?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

She wasn't usual, she was unusual. She loved making up stories and making secrets and she was just. And she wouldn't do what you expected. You couldn't sort of plan how she was going to behave. Behave, yes, but not really how react. And she would be very, sometimes quite brutal verbally, but not basically.

[Adam Carolla]

For you at this stage in your career. Lauren and Rose is the name of the movie. It's available as we speak on Amazon Prime. I will be watching it as soon as I get control over a TV set, I promise you that for you. Are you just looking toward interesting projects? Are you out trying to create things?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

I, I love psychology and I love the process of working out who's what and who does what to whom and what's really interesting. I love that. And if you find a good part, you find that and you find the subtext and you work through it and it gives me something. I think I would have been a good psychologist actually because I'm very interested in people. There's nothing that interests me more. Yeah, I'm also a big questioner. I ask a lot of questions and people occasionally call me the Grand Inquisitor.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well that's probably meant with love, I'm sure. Well Jack, let me give you one more plug. Lauren and Rose. It's available on Amazon Prime January 28th or it's out as we speak and I would recommend it. Like I said, I wish I had control over my TV set. I would have watched it by now. But I shall as soon as I get regain control.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

When are you planning? On what? Are you gonna go back to your house? When do you go back?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, that's the age old question. Nobody knows when the power or the sewage or the water, the gas and no one knows when anything's gonna be back on. And it's anyone's guess and I don't seem to get any information, so I don't know.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Must be very trying indeed.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it can be for a lot of people. I'm used to life as, you know, reality on reality's terms and I travel a lot and do a lot of shows and stuff like that anyway, so I'm sort of out and about.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

But do you feel this period is over?

[Adam Carolla]

The period of which period?

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Sorry True. With all the, you know, the burning, the fires, the fear, and the general trauma.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I. I'm hoping that we can rebuild, and I'm hoping we can do it in a pragmatic way. And I hope that we can do it a way that understands this is going to happen and it's going to happen semi consistently, and we're just going to have to be prepared when it does.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

What do you mean?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean. I mean, it is a natural disaster. And the example I would use is, like, in Katrina and New Orleans, they had a natural disaster, but they also had seawalls that failed, that weren't kept up by the Army Corps of Engineers. And so what I would say is, this is going to happen. So let's do everything we can as a prevention, definitive measure. For instance, when the houses are all rebuilt, they're rebuilt to a certain standard with fire sprinklers and things like that, that the brush is cleared consistently, that the aqueducts are filled, that we have enough men and women on the fire department that we can pre stage them when we know the winds are coming. And we do as much as we humanly can to prevent it. But we're not totally in charge. We're not in charge, but we have earthquakes in this state and we build accordingly. And even though earthquake causes destruction, doesn't cause that much destruction, because we anticipate it and we build accordingly. And that's the way I look at it.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Yeah. Well, let's smoke.

[Adam Carolla]

Thanks. Jacqueline Basell.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Are you there still? You've just gone off. Have you gone off?

[Adam Carolla]

No, I was just signing off, but I appreciate talking to you, and maybe one day you can come see us in the studio. We're not too far away.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Really? Where are you? Where's the studio?

[Adam Carolla]

It's in Glendale, California.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Oh, that's not far away.

[Adam Carolla]

That's not bad. Yeah. When your next project comes along, come see us in park.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Okay. That might be fun. Thank you for potentially inviting me.

[Adam Carolla]

Potentially, I think it would be. Thank you, Jacqueline Bessette. I appreciate it.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Thank you so much.

[Adam Carolla]

Take care.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Bye.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, we will take a little break because we're gonna get a little news in. We'll get mayhem back in here with a little news, and we'll do that right after this. Ever see your dog slowing down or having health issues and wonder, what can I do to make them better? Well, I have an answer, my friend. Add rough greens to your dog' for 90 days and you'll see changes that will amaze you. It's guaranteed at the first 30 days. Sorry. In the first 30 days, you'll see shinier coats and increased energy. I saw it with Phil. By day 60, your dog will have a stronger immune system, less shedding and improved joint function, all due to the live nutrients you've added to their diet. So they're eating. Eating dead food, essentially. And you don't want a refrigerator filled with food. And you don't have the money for that either. You add this, you add live nutrients to your dog's food. That's right. And at day 90, better digestion, reduced inflammation, improved heart health, and you might even have reduced their cancer risk. This is great stuff. Spoke to the owner of the company. I use it myself. Rough greens, am I right? Dawson, fetch a free Jumpstart trial bag.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Jacqueline Bisset]

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[Bianca Censori]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Bianca Censori]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Time to check Adam's voicemail.

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, Adam Aaron, 40, Austin Tejas. I was just singing the Mancho theme in my head and I realized I have no idea what the line is about. Heather. Heather. So for now, I'm just gonna say hanging in the chow line with Heather until you enlighten me. Thanks, brother.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.

[Adam Carolla]

So hanging in a Chow Line was from Good Times and I was one of the first songs I ever really broke down on the radio. And it they say hanging in a jaw, I think is what they're trying to say. But they don't say hanging in a John. They go hanging in a jaw. Like, it's like, okay, when Michael Jackson says, but the kid is not my son, he says, but the chair is not my son, he just says, this is a kid. There's kid. There's kid in play.

[Margaret Cho]

It's ka.

[Adam Carolla]

He doesn't say, but the kid, he goes, but the chair is not my son. They do this a lot. Artistic license, I guess so. So it's hanging in a jawing.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I guess hanging in and jiving is what I say.

[Adam Carolla]

Hanging in and jiving. But it sounds like. He says hanging in a jar line.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It sounds like chow line.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's hanging in a chow line. Which could be a food line. Look at the cans on this chick name. It's a place where men can come together. Look at the cans on this chick named Heather. I didn't write that line. I wrote, wrote, grab your favorite private part, maybe, or send the wife and kids to France. I remember writing the theme to that to the man show. It was. Jimmy and I and Danny were just sitting in our office and we're like, we gotta get a theme song. And we got a theme song. We just sat there. It's Bye Bye Blackbird, basically, is what it is. The song, the melody, and then we just wrote the lyrics. Which is why I don't have any respect for anyone who writes songs, really. Because it's not nearly as hard as people think. Real classics. Yeah, but just songs. Not that hard.

[Margaret Cho]

Dime a dozen.

[Adam Carolla]

Dime a dozen. All right. But thanks for listening. What do you got in the news?

[Margaret Cho]

Well, I got some news. Kanye West's wife, Bianca Censori, will not be punished for her Grammys nudity. It's a hot story. She came out wearing, you know, a voluminous black coat, but she dramatically dropped it right here. If you haven't seen it yet, shield your children's eyes.

[Jacqueline Bisset]

Oh.

[Margaret Cho]

Just butt naked. Yeah. And a shrink wrap type outfit.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Margaret Cho]

Nothing to the imagination, but she pulls it off.

[Adam Carolla]

I will say that.

[Margaret Cho]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And listen, maybe that's the ultimate glamours, having an incredible body.

[Margaret Cho]

Maybe.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. It's weird.

[Margaret Cho]

Butt naked people.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. It's just weird. Everything is weird. Everything. Kanye's weird. I get it. It also seems uncomfortable.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. I mean, inoffensive, because she's so.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. But uncomfortable. But either way.

[Margaret Cho]

What do you mean? What's uncomfortable about it?

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. It's cold. You know, you're not really wearing anything.

[Margaret Cho]

A sheen of fabric upon her.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. I don't know. Also, does anything shock anyone anymore? Does anything matter anymore? Does anyone care anymore? I just. I don't know what his next move is. But I just think the part where you like. I don't know why, I don't know why, but when you do a horror movie and you give the name of the horror movie and you take one of the letters and you make it backwards. That's not scary. It's just fucked out. It's just fucked out. Why are you doing that? What is that? What is. What is inherently scary about the S going the wrong direction in your scary movie? It's just dumb.

[Margaret Cho]

Would you like to be shocked?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, the shock is back. The S on the shock. No, there's a horror movie called Shocked, and you take the S and you make it face the wrong direction like you were drunk when you were laying it out.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not the movie 7. When they took the V and they made it a seven or something. It doesn't really even make sense. It's not inherent scary. And being naked where you're not supposed to be naked goes back.

[Margaret Cho]

No. I thought you'd just be shocked that Bianca Censori is an Australian architectural designer.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh.

[Margaret Cho]

So, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Margaret Cho]

A little more in common with you.

[Adam Carolla]

Too, but all right. Also, I always feel bad for, like, their dads, you know, to kind of go, jesus Christ, really?

[Margaret Cho]

What?

[Adam Carolla]

Something on? Yeah, he's got to sit home and get the newspaper, turn on the phone or whatever, and there's his daughter walking around.

[Margaret Cho]

Bianca's a butt naked again.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Margaret Cho]

Well, in other news, Joe Biden is ready to make some Hollywood deals and signs with caa. Yeah. Former President Joe Biden is officially stepping into the post presidency spotlight.

[Adam Carolla]

Do we have to do this? Do we have to do it with everyone who leaves?

[Margaret Cho]

Well, Obama and, you know, Michelle Obama.

[Adam Carolla]

What do they know about. What do the Obamas know about making documentaries? You know, they don't know any.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, they've done it a few times.

[Adam Carolla]

It's so gross. By the way, Biden's 82. He's swindled enough money. Is he turning 82? Is he 81 or 82? He's swindled enough money with him and his son from Ukraine and Russia that he should be able to just go back to Delaware and ride it out. Does he really? And does anyone think. Does anyone think he's 82? Does anyone think he has any hand in any of the creative process when they sign him to this deal? By the way, he thinks he just got signed. He doesn't think he got signed by caa. He's telling Jill Biden, I just got signed by car. That's what he thinks. He doesn't know anything. He doesn't know where he is. He's having creative license or final cut over anything. He doesn't even know what's going on. On.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. While President Biden earned 400 grand annually. But as a financial life outside office has been far more lucrative.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, they're going to get book deals like Obamas.

[Margaret Cho]

I don't have it here, but I read in the article there was a breakdown of different, like, universities that he went to and, you know, pulled in 180 grand. 180 grand for speaking engagements. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

From after his son. What happened to his son's art? For 500 grand, what happened to that? Who bought that? Who bought his son's art? How come they wouldn't say who bought his son's art? How come no one says where all his money comes from? He's a fucking grifter.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. I think that once you get into the top levels of power, it's really hard not to grift.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I know. And listen, here's the thing. Let me just say this, this. The Obamas are very wealthy and have multiple homes that are worth millions of dollars. And Biden is wealthy and Trump is wealthy and Elon Musk is wealthy and Vivek Ramaswamy wealthy. All right, they're all wealthy. One group gives us lectures on wealth and humanity and wants to know when is enough? When do you have enough? How much money do you have? What about the other people that don't have money because you have stolen all the money and income inequality? One group wags their finger at you and lectures you about your humanity. And the other group is just fucking rich. Now, they're both rich. One is constantly trying to lecture you on why you shouldn't want to be rich or who has all the money or who doesn't. Meanwhile, they're all at the same party and they're all fucking hanging around with Oprah, who's rich? Who's also gonna lecture you on when is enough enough? So that's the only difference. They all got big time book deals, they all get fucking set up from Netflix. They all do the same thing, run in the same circles, have multiple homes and fly privately. But the one side lectures you and the other side is content just to be rich. And if you'd like to get rich as well, well, that'll be your business. And that's why I don't want the.

[Margaret Cho]

Lecture wagging your finger at me from Pelosi's fondue fountain.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, I will take. You can have your money, you can have your investments, you can have your rich husbands, you can have your Porsches and your private jets. Just don't fucking lecture me like you're not rich, bitch. Whenever the Obamas are like, well, when's it going to be a new. I don't know, you're going on your fourth home. That's multi million dollars. Is that yeah. Not enough or is that enough? Or do you like the house and you want it? Yeah. And you need to shut the fuck up.

[Margaret Cho]

I think they might be talking up though, like at the billionaires, they're always.

[Adam Carolla]

Talking about someone who is richer than them.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But, but here's the difference. The difference is having a net worth of $100 million versus a net worth of owing the bank 30 grand and a network of having $100 billion. When you have the hundred million, you live whatever life you want to lead. That's what the Obamas do. Whatever the party is, whatever. It's not like they're sitting around and they're going, well, I'd like a Coca Cola, but we can only afford Shasta.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Those aren't the decisions that are being made by the Obamas. They're doing whatever, whenever. And then they're telling us about the have nots, the people that don't have the money.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And my thing is, you got the money. Now shut up and don't lecture me. And by the way, seems like you're all about the money too. You're not making as much as Elon, but you'll fucking do anything to make money.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So there you go.

[Margaret Cho]

All right. In some lighter news, a man sitting in a restaurant gets hit in the head by debris from the Philadelphia. Philadelphia plane crash. Yeah. I mean, look, I feel lighter because this video is comical. And he is not killed. He made a full recovery. Or he is in the process. You want to see someone get their bell rung? Check your eyes up to the top of the screen.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh.

[Margaret Cho]

Run it back. Because it, if you don't, if you blink, you miss it.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, wow. It came flying in, but like.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. From a plane explosion, everybody jumps to the ground. This guy took a direct hit right to the dome. But it seems like. Yeah, busted hat right off. In a comical fashion.

[Adam Carolla]

Whoa.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. But this guy is lucky to be alive today.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. The Learjet was headed to Missouri for a fuel stop before continuing to Mexico. It was the a wreckage.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it was, it was a private jet from Mexico.

[Margaret Cho]

It was a medical flight taking a girl who's getting life saving treatment.

[Adam Carolla]

It just blew up in the air, right?

[Margaret Cho]

It did, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I don't think it was taking her to get treatment. I think taking her back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sad. And that just blew Up. I heard that there was oxygen on the plane and that because it was a medical plane and that could have been it. There's a floor flight many, many years ago with a professional football player on it that crashed in Florida because it had oxygen, like stowed below and it went off. I guess oxygen tanks and airplanes don't mix. And I think that's the theory of why it just blew up in midair, right?

[Margaret Cho]

Yes, yes, that's what it says. And man. Yeah, many people hospital, three people in critical condition. Everyone on the plane. Yeah. Died, 22 injured after.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it landed right in the middle of Philly, right?

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, it landed right there. And you know, we get this. Yeah, it looks like that guy's going to be okay, but other people, not so much. Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

I heard. Speaking of Philly, I was told during the break that the NFL is going to suspend the end racism agitation bullshit that they put in every end zone. But I don't know the full story to that, but it can't end fast enough. And I don't know if that's a kind of Trump related thing or what they're doing, but we will, one day you guys will understand how quietly dangerous all this sort of anti racist shit that you put everywhere and how destructive it is and the damage it has caused our society and race relations. Because it appears as if racism is a much bigger problem than it is because you are actually putting it in the end zone, highlighting it. You know, you wanna know the utopia I would like to live in?

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Racism is not a real problem. It's not a dangerous problem. It's not a situation that needs to be discussed in end zone of football games. But you want to know a utopia we'd be living in? Imagine if in every professional football game, instead of end racism, they just went, use your blinker, use your turn signal. That would be something that would be positive. That would be something we could do. Now, I don't know what this story is and I don't know. We're looking at a picture of the Kansas City Chiefs and it says end racism in the end zone. So this picture is not helping me with my dialogue because I'm saying they didn't do it, but I don't know if that's the super bowl or not. So. Yeah, anyway, but Byron, it's not helping me because I understand it says end racism. I'm saying for the super bowl, did they end the end racism or not? We're gonna find that out. You can do your next story.

[Margaret Cho]

The next story is A trans Oscar nominee, Carla Sophia Gascon, breaks down, says she's being sacrificed over past tweets.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Margaret Cho]

Yes. The first openly transgender Oscar nominee is speaking out. An emotional response. Backlash over past tweets that have resurfaced. Gascon nominated for.

[Adam Carolla]

But these were. These are dude tweets back then, right? This is hers. A dude?

[Margaret Cho]

I think so, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Cause dudes tweet, dude.

[Margaret Cho]

Oh, they took them out of here. But yeah, if we can put some of those up.

[Adam Carolla]

Is this movie. This movie seems like a woke musical that is getting a bunch of woke points. And that's why it's getting all the buzz and it's the reason no one gives a fuck about the Oscars anymore. Because I just go, they're just giving it to the wokest. Shit. No one cares. And I've never heard of any of these movies. I'm not gonna say it. And by the way, way Dawson, you're going to have to look. What is the differential between the critics score and the audience? The popcorn score? Because this sounds like one of those. That's going to be 95 with the critics and 60. 47 with the people.

[Margaret Cho]

47. No, I'll go 64.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll go 93. I'll go 93. Critics and what'd you say?

[Margaret Cho]

I said 64. I'll say 59 and I'm going 93. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So whenever you see a movie that's real high with the critics and low with the people, think wokester. Yeah, but I.

[Margaret Cho]

Works out sort of.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God, 73 with the critics, which is low for Oscars and woke and trans and Hispanic and everything. 18% with the people with over 5,000 reviews now they're gonna say, those are haters. But I'm sorry, you never see a best picture nominee with anything, anything under 50. Right? 18. 18%. We're. We're. We're getting into like Medea's Halloween special, like, percentage with 18. Holy shit.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah. You know, those old man tweets of hers were disparaging to George Floyd, called him a junkie, I think, or something like this. And really just. I don't know. The backlash is pretty amazing. To go in such a woke environment to be reinvestigated.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, what was her. But, but, but those were dude tweets.

[Margaret Cho]

Right? That's what I mean. Yeah. I feel like you can't. You gotta give.

[Adam Carolla]

If you're gonna become a male or female, we gotta throw your old tweets out. But that's how she thought when she was a Dude, but what. What were the tweets you have?

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, they took him out of here. There was. I know there's one.

[Adam Carolla]

They took them down, you mean.

[Margaret Cho]

No, the. My article got adjusted where I had it on here. But the final print doesn't have. We'll fix that in the future.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Margaret Cho]

But, yeah, the. She's saying she can't step down from an Oscar nomination because I have not committed any crime, nor have I harmed anyone.

[Adam Carolla]

So she. She was, like, talking up George Floyd or saying, you idiots who defended George Floyd.

[Margaret Cho]

She actually took positions on both sides of the argument, like saying that George Floyd was kind of, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, do we have those somewhere? So why not have them? If we're gonna talk about them, we should at least have them. This is my take.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And we'll also figure out what's going on with the super bowl and end racism.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Regarding the super bowl, the NFL will remove the words end racism from the end zones at Caesar's Superdome in New Orleans. They're gonna replace them with stencils of choose love while they're beating each other up on the field. Choose Love.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Margaret Cho]

Oh, here we go. Here's some. The tweets that in question truly believe that very few people ever cared about George Floyd, a drug addict and a hustler, but his death has served a highlight once again. The. But there are those who consider black people to be monkeys without rights and those who consider police to be murderers. All wrong.

[Adam Carolla]

So all was wrong. Blacks aren't monkeys, and cops aren't murderers. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Nobody cared about George Floyd. And yes, he was a drug addict and a hustler. Yes, yes, yes. Now we're building monuments then. But, yes, that is ultra.

[Margaret Cho]

But, yeah, I think that whole movement was about not so much that guy George Floyd, but the fact that guys get away. You know, the cops.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that was about. Yeah, I know. But you still are building statues to a junkie criminal, which is not a good plan. But. But. But the. The cops not getting away with it is. That's correct. That part. But then, see, here's the problem with all you guys. You. You can point out that there's police brutality without turning the victim into a hero, because they're not a hero just because they were killed by a cop.

[Margaret Cho]

The argument is he's a martyr for the cause.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but martyrs did something usually. Like the guy that almost got his head taken off with the police. Sorry. With the aircraft that fell out of the sky. Wouldn't be a martyr for Aviation safety. He'd just be a dude who was eating at a diner, got hit by a piece of shrapnel. We wouldn't look to him for aviation safety. And we shouldn't build a statue of him and put him at the fucking airport. That's the guy that just got fragged by shrapnel. So you're not a martyr for the cause because a cop killed you. But I get it. I get what they're doing. But also, they don't care about him either. They're just trying to score some intersectional points. All right, so we're gonna choose low love, which means nothing. This extra nothing talk, I don't know what it means. This is the era we're in. It's insane. Who's choosing love? And also, what does that even mean? Just fucking take care of your family, would you?

[Margaret Cho]

Whose plan is it to signal these virtues?

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, let me explain what the NFL is. NFL is a corporation. Corporations need you to think that they're very human when they're not. They're not human. As I've said, in the NFL, you choose love. And a Subaru is made with love.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But it's really just made with a bunch of natural resources and like vulcanized rubber and metal and shit we tear from the ground. So we dig huge holes in the ground, and then we tear stuff out of the ground and we rape the land. And then we use those raw materials to make a Subaru mother. Yeah. Which then burns fossil fuels, pushes exhaust out the back, and then eventually ends up in some landfill or pile somewhere and leeches into the ground table water for the next thousand years. So that's what a Subaru does. But you have to convince us it's made with love. So we think of you as nice. And then we want to buy Subaru. In the NFL, you guys are just a huge corporate corporation who tries to pay your ex employees who are crippled oftentimes now the least amount possible and fight them and can CTE things and not pay their retirement or their medical bills or whatever. That's what you guys are. But you don't want us to look at you as that. You want us to look at you as someone who's alive. The NFL. And so we want you to choose love. Except for that has nothing to do with you. It has everything to do with us. And no, they don't care what you choose. They want you to like them.

[Margaret Cho]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that. That's the new world order. We're in the greatest commercial of all Time. And we can't find it anymore. But they started this shit. We're going back 25 years. There was a commercial and maybe Dawson can find it, but I don't think it exists anymore because I think we looked for it once and they scrubbed it. It was a Nike commercial. And it was Nike showing a bunch of women athletes. And they were sweating in the weight room and taking shots out on the court and getting knocked down and picked back up and get hard checked in hockey and stuff. And they're like, we sweat like the men. We bleed like the men. We work like the men. Why don't we get paid like the men? And that was Nike, who uses Chinese child labor to manufacture their products and sweatshops. That's that them saying to you, look who we are. We care about the ladies Now. Nike sponsors women in the NBA. And Nike sponsors men in the WNBA and they sponsor men in the NBA. Nike pays LeBron James or whomever millions and millions of dollars a year. I don't know how much they paid Lisa Leslie or the female. The answer is not much. So Nike, why don't you fucking pay the bitches? You could give them a tennis shoe contract the same as you gave Michael Jordan a tennis shoe contract. So why aren't you doing this? So shut the fuck up and pay the bitches. Nike. But instead you use the money that could go toward paying the bitches. You used it to create a commercial to make us think you weren't something. That you were something other than what you are. Which is a big corporation that sells shit.

[Margaret Cho]

Manufacturing consent.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. So sorry, I'm dubious. NFL, I'm not going to choose love. Just. How about no statements in the. In the end zone?

[Margaret Cho]

They ended racism, though.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, now that racism is gone. Now we can choose love. And by the way, that doesn't mean anything. It doesn't help anyone. It doesn't cure anybody of anything. All right, one more. That's all I got. That's all you got? Good. That commercial we have looked at for in the past, Dawson, and they don't have it anymore. It was a sanctimonious Nike bullshit. Pay the women what you pay the men commercial. Except for Nike does all the paying and doesn't pay the women. So shut up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I'm not saying anything. But I do want to say that the NFL is saying that Choose Love is appropriate to use. As our country has endured in recent weeks. Wildfires in Southern California, terrorist attack here in New Orleans, the plane and helicopter crash in our N near our nation's capital and the plane crash in Philadelphia. So we all need to choose love, I would argue. Please donate to the Red Cross. New Modern might directly affect those things.

[Adam Carolla]

I would say the terrorists needed to choose love. The rest of the stuff is kind of act of God stuff or at least a mistake not involving so terrorists. Yes, he should have chosen love. All right, Torrance at the end doing stand up there. Man, that place is fun. February 15th that place is a party. 6 and 8pm It's a fun show. Also San Luis Obispo, Monterey Napa, heading up to my party, part of my neck of the woods where the racetracks are. That was. That'll be fun toward the end of February. And go to amcrol.com for all the live shows. And you can also check out Jacqueline Bassette. Lauren and Rose is the name of the movie. And then there's Margaret Cho, I believe you. Go to margaretchow.com find out all the live dates. Until next time. So we're Mayhem and Jacqueline and Margaret saying mahalo.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

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