Conspiracies and Coverups with Patrick Byrne + Mike Murphy Talks Chaos in California

Summary

The Adam Carolla Show: "Conspiracies and Coverups with Patrick Byrne + Mike Murphy Talks Chaos in California"

Date: October 29, 2025
Guests: Patrick Byrne (businessman, author of "Danger Close") & Mike Murphy (political consultant, co-host of "Hacks on Tap")
Host: Adam Carolla

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Episode Overview

This episode dives headlong into high-level political conspiracies, the mechanics of the so-called "deep state," transformations in American political and social culture, and the dysfunction in California's governance. Adam Carolla hosts a provocative conversation with Patrick Byrne, former CEO of Overstock and government intelligence asset, about his firsthand experiences with covert political operations, including the origins of the Russia collusion narrative and broader elite manipulation. Later, veteran political strategist Mike Murphy joins to discuss the chaotic state of California politics, mayoral races, and the shifting ground in national Democratic leadership.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Patrick Byrne: From Overstock to Intelligence Operations

• Background: Byrne details his academic (Dartmouth, Stanford, Cambridge) and business success (Overstock.com), emphasizing the way his education and encounters with early ‘woke’ politics shaped his contrarian views.
• Notable Quote:

  "I ran into what I would call early woke... It was a reaction against the woke people I was meeting in the Bay Area in the late 80s." (03:41, Byrne)

2. Critique of 'Woke' Ideology and Modern Leftism

• Byrne and Carolla delineate the difference between classic liberalism and present-day 'woke' activism, blaming it for policy failures and narcissism.
• Thomas Sowell is cited as a source of inspiration regarding the perils of sanctimonious policymaking.
• Carolla:

  "Their woke ideas start off as sort of compassion meets a crunchy hippiness and then eventually become policy and then destruction." (05:24)

• Byrne:

  "They never eat their own cooking." (08:59)

3. Elite Hypocrisy: COVID, Optics, and Double Standards

• Carolla rails against hypocrisy in political elites (e.g., Gavin Newsom’s COVID conduct), arguing their actions betray what they truly believe.
• Carolla:

  "When you wave the mask off, that means you don't believe it works." (09:01)

4. Byrne’s Claims: Deep State, Election Rigging, and Psyops

• Byrne describes the apparent belief among U.S. elites in a system where a "small elite should make the decisions for all the rest of us" (11:33), and outlines his perspective on the 2020 election as rigged, with lasting deep state repercussions.
• Discussion of psychological manipulation—referencing the "Besmenov psyop" (40:36)—claiming a four-step process to societal overthrow: demoralization, disorientation, crisis, normalization.

5. Origins of the Russia Collusion Narrative

• Byrne makes explosive claims of firsthand involvement in what he alleges was a staged Russian collusion plot, orchestrated by Brennan and Obama, intended to be used against any Republican winner, not just Trump.
• Byrne:

  "I set up the Russian collusion hoax. That’s why you have pictures of me dating this good looking redhead, this Russian spy, Maria Butina. I was sent by the FBI... Barack Obama, John Brennan, and James Comey started a soft coup on the United States." (25:54, 26:51)

• He alleges setting up an $18 million bribe to Hillary Clinton, which was to serve as blackmail material for Obama to control her presidency. (27:31)
• All these activities, Byrne claims, have been relayed under oath to the January 6th Committee. (30:32)

6. Patrick Byrne’s Deep State & Global Power Structure Theories

• Byrne describes a multi-tiered system: Obama and Brennan at the US top, then international influence from entities like the World Economic Forum (WEF), George Soros, and China.
• Byrne:

  "It's China and the WEF... they both agreed on overthrowing the US and instituting a globalist order." (19:30)

7. Media, Groupthink, and Political Manipulation

• The hosts discuss how late-night TV and mainstream media reinforce in-group orthodoxy and dismiss dissent as lunacy.
• Carolla:

  "Everything with them is we in the in group. ...All the jokes work because they all know all these things for sure. So Bill Maher doesn’t even have to really explain anything..." (23:05)

8. Mass Psychology, Social Engineering & 'Chick Think'

• Byrne and Carolla dissect how, under intense psychological manipulation (e.g., during COVID), people become malleable (‘lemmings’).
• They introduce the (controversial) notion of "chick think"—a criticism of perceived societal feminization and fear-based decision-making, tying it to disaster responses and policy-making in California.
• Carolla:

  "There's a big problem going on with chick think... it's fear-based, dumb chick think... but in California, it's not a mom and a dad, it's three moms and a neutered dad." (47:13, 53:43)

9. California Governance Dysfunction: Mike Murphy Interview

• Murphy discusses Rick Caruso's potential mayoral or gubernatorial run, characterizing Caruso as a builder who contrasts favorably with ceremonial, unproductive politicians.
• Murphy claims that California is at a tipping point, and political change only follows visible crisis (e.g., fires, homelessness).
• Murphy:

  "Voters like to vote for what they think they did not get the last time..." (109:52)

• Both Murray and Carolla lament the lack of actual competence in LA leadership, citing consistently ineffectual mayors.

10. National Dem Politics: Newsom, Kamala, and the Next Wave

• Murphy speculates about Newsom's presidential ambitions, noting his mixed record and the challenge of authenticity in modern politics.
• Murphy:

  "The best rocket fuel is authenticity. The bullshit meter is so sharp on people now." (120:19)

• He predicts AOC may run for president, and notes the party’s battle between its hard left and moderate wings is still unresolved.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Patrick Byrne: "We discovered that the business we had built to liquidate excess inventory worked really well on bankruptcies." (03:03)
• On Woke Ideology: Byrne: "Woke is something that goes much beyond just taking left sort of normal leftist... positions and really is antagonistic towards and corrosive of our foundational principles." (05:07)
• On Hypocrisy: Carolla: "Gavin Newsom talks about the dangers of COVID and shuts down outdoor dining and then goes to the French Laundry." (09:01)
• On Deep State Control: Byrne: "Once they thought they had forever power. Once they rigged the 2020 election..." (10:55)
• On Democratic Party Hierarchy: Byrne: "Brennan and Obama were at the top of the pyramid as far as the US goes... internationally, that’s Soros and Klaus Schwab and the WEF." (18:49)
• On Russian Collusion: Byrne: "I set up the Russian collusion hoax... The whole Russia thing was being cooked up from July 2015..." (25:54)
• On Hillary Bribery Allegation: Byrne: "She was in the room, took an $18 million bribe from Azerbaijan..." (27:31)
• On the COVID Response & Social Psychology: Byrne: "When people are traumatized... you can start hitting you with repetition and you will start buying what they tell you." (45:37)
• Mike Murphy on Political Shifts: "Voters like to vote for what they think they did not get the last time." (109:52)
• On Fake Authenticity in Politicians: Murphy: "Just be honest with them. I've always told people in debate, it's okay to say 'I don't know.'" (120:19)
• On LA Governance: Carolla: “In California, it’s not a mom and a dad, it’s three moms and a neutered dad. And now we’re making decisions based on that.” (53:43)

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Top Memorable Moments & Timestamps

Byrne’s Deep State Revelations:

• [25:54–30:32] Patrick details his claim of setting up the Russia hoax and orchestrating a bribe to Hillary Clinton on behalf of intelligence handlers.

Psyop & Manipulation Discussion:

• [40:36] Byrne explains the "Besmanov psyop" for non-violent societal overthrow: "A psyop to overthrow the country. We were never supposed to get out of it."

Chick Think & Social Shifts:

• [47:13–54:45] Spirited (and controversial) debate about societal feminization, pandemic response, and what Carolla calls “chick think.”

Discussion on Newsom’s Presidential Ambitions:

• [117:45–119:07] Murphy speculates on Newsom’s motivations and electability outside California.

Intersection of Media and Groupthink:

• [23:05] Byrne and Carolla discuss groupthink: "Everything with them is we in the in group..."

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Timestamps: Key Segments

• Patrick Byrne Intro & Overstock Backstory: [02:08–04:49]
• Woke Ideology & Policy Failure: [05:07–09:01]
• Deep State, COVID, and Election Rigging: [10:55–19:30]
• Russian Collusion Narrative Origin (Byrne): [25:54–32:46]
• Societal Manipulation, 'Chick Think,' and Feminization: [40:41–54:45]
• California Politics and Fires (Murphy): [101:03–105:04]
• Electoral Politics, Rick Caruso's Prospects: [105:04–108:41]
• Democratic Party Dynamics, Newsom, Kamala, AOC: [117:15–127:42]

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Tone & Language

The episode is characterized by Adam Carolla’s usual irreverence and skepticism, Patrick Byrne’s conspiratorial and blunt confessional style, and, later, Mike Murphy’s seasoned, wry political insider commentary. The conversations are candid, at times combative, and laced with humor, sarcasm, and cultural references.

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Summary

This episode offers a long, colorful, and highly controversial exploration of American political narratives and the underpinnings of elite power. Patrick Byrne brings startling, if uncorroborated, claims about deep state plots, the 2016 election, and blackmail involving Hillary Clinton. He and Carolla dissect the social and psychological forces they believe are subverting rational governance, focusing on pandemic responses and shifting gender norms.

Switching gears, Mike Murphy provides a pragmatic look at California’s leadership crisis, the changing fate of Democrats like Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris, and what the electorate’s appetite for “something new” may mean for the future of state and national politics.

Filled with memorable quotes and sharp-edged banter, the episode is a must-listen for those interested in the intersection of conspiracy, psychology, and realpolitik in contemporary America.

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Note: All claims made by guests represent their own views and have not been independently verified.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

In this episode, very interesting businessman and insider going to tell you all about the deep state. Patrick Byrne joins us. Also news with Rudy and political pundit and interesting guy buys in with Rick Caruso. Now was with Schwarzenegger. Everyone else, Mike Murphy comes back on the show. We'll do all that right after this bed online. Hey, it's Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show. Football season is in full swing and there's no better place to get in on the action than BetOnline, your number one source for all things football. Betonline gives you more ways to play with the latest odds, breaking news, live scores and even in game betting. So you never miss out on a moment from every NFL and college game and matchup. Betonline is your place for all things football. And if you love MLB or UFC or any NHL, anything with letters in it, futures, even Betonline keeps you locked into the action all year long. And don't Forget the BETOnline VIP program with exclusive level up bonuses, weekly cash boosts and rewards designed for serious players. Head to Betonline today. That's Betonline. The game starts here.

[Patrick Byrne]

Foreign.

[Show Announcer]

Corolla One studios in Glendale, California. This is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, businessman and the author of Danger Close, Patrick Byrne. Plus political consultant and the co host of the podcast Hacks on Tap, Mike Murphy. We got the news with Rudy Pavage as well. And now, now he knows what it's like to live with two parties who are engaged in shutdown. Those were his parents.

[Adam Carolla]

Adam Carolla, Patrick Byrne is here. Patrick is the author, also has a video series out as well, the book Danger Close. It's available now and we'll get into the Russian collusion and delusion and all that kind of stuff. Also, people may know you from overstock.com and let's just start at the start, then we'll make our way up to where we are now.

[Patrick Byrne]

Patrick, sounds like a plan.

[Adam Carolla]

Overstock, that's you, that's I, that is you.

[Patrick Byrne]

Guilty as charged.

[Adam Carolla]

But not anymore.

[Patrick Byrne]

Left it, started it, launched it in 99. Left it on my 20th anniversary.

[Adam Carolla]

So overstock.com which is huge. Only started in 99, correct? Because I feel like in 99 and in like 2000 I was seeing it everywhere. So you guys like hit the ground running, right?

[Patrick Byrne]

We hit the ground running. We got famous because it was just as the dot coms all began crashing and we discovered that the business we had built to liquidate excess inventory worked really well on bankruptcies. So we liquidated about 20 that went bankrupt. And that's actually what got us sort of in the press and got us famous liquidating other bankrupt dot coms.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, and your education is Dartmouth and Stanford and King's College, Cambridge and lots of bona fides in the education in terms of your background. But what were you emphasizing? What was your major? What were you studying?

[Patrick Byrne]

Well, I did both Western philosophy and Asian studies. I speak Chinese, I spoke pretty good Thai at one point I was a student over in China. 83, 84 per year. But on Western philosophy I was focusing on logic and computation theory until, surprisingly enough, I was doing my doctorate at Stanford and I ran into what I would call early woke. And I reacted so aggressively, I was in such shock that I was meeting people that believed the things that were being espoused. This is late 80s, that it really, over a couple years reoriented my whole graduate studies to economics and political philosophy to counter the woke people I was meeting to try to be able to explain to them how they were wrong in on every dimension one could. One could imagine. So really it ended up being a reaction against the woke people I was meeting in the Bay Area in the late 80s.

[Adam Carolla]

So like early iterations of woke because I guess we, we give things different names, you know. So climate change used to be kind of. It used to be called ecology, basically.

[Patrick Byrne]

That'S what we called or environmentalism later.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. But things started as something and morphed into something else. But I had a hippie mom, so I got early woke stuff. Now, no one called it woke. They just. It was stuff you learn from watching Billy Jack or Roots or something like that.

[Patrick Byrne]

But well, that's okay. And that's just left and that stuff's okay. But woke is something that goes much beyond just taking left sort of normal leftist or so called liberal positions and really is antagonistic towards and corrosive of our foundational principles.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, what happens is their ideas sound okay and sort of harmless and then they implement them and then people get killed because they implement really bad ideas. So my mom would have been one of these, you know, what's wrong with decriminalizing everything or giving clean needles to heroin users or providing them with heroin. You know, like things that sound okay. And they always pick out some small city in Europe where it works because they don't have our population. They have their population and it kind of works. And then they quote how it works over there. But later on when we tried in San Francisco, it ends up with a bunch of dead junkies and a tourist who got stabbed. So their woke ideas start off as sort of compassion meets a kind of crunchy hippiness and then eventually become policy and then destruction.

[Patrick Byrne]

And the great economist that was a big influence on me. One was Milton Friedman. One was Thomas Sowell.

[Adam Carolla]

Sure.

[Patrick Byrne]

Do you know Sowell?

[Adam Carolla]

I love Thomas Sowell because they come up with the every year time comes out with 100 most influential African Americans or whatever and he never makes any list ever.

[Patrick Byrne]

And he's really on the list of the most important intellectuals of the last century.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. But will not be recognized by any.

[Patrick Byrne]

Of the mainstream media or the African American Museum in D.C. even recognize him or Clarence Thomas.

[Adam Carolla]

That's the awesome part of them.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah. So Thomas Sowell makes this point that often such people are, are really just sanctimonious and they want to be looked at and judged on how much they care and so forth. So they espouse policies that let them sound and look that way. And the fact that their policies either don't work or actually do damage to their intended recipe beneficiaries doesn't seem to matter to them at all because they really aren't about them at all. They're about.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I mean it is a real narcissism that we're really essentially talking about here. I mean people go, what is it? And it's like ultimately it's a narcissism.

[Patrick Byrne]

Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

And it doesn't really matter whether it's effective or not. It's just famously Barack Obama, somebody pointed out to him that when you raise the corporate income tax or the corporate tax rate that you'll get less revenue and when you lower it, you get more revenue to the federal government.

[Patrick Byrne]

He said it doesn't matter cuz it's about some statement being made.

[Adam Carolla]

He said he didn't like the optics of it. You know, he didn't like the optics of lowering corporate taxes. And so that's a fool. But it's also a guy who's more worried about the optics than the actual outcome.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah. It's a guy who's never, never made a payroll, never run an ice cream shop, doesn't know the first thing about how the world actually works. He wants to prance. Such people, I'm around them sometimes they're more concerned about how they're going to look sipping chardonnay and eating Brie at a San Francisco cocktail party than the actual effect. It's a damn imposition worrying about the actual people that they pretend to be worrying for.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. And they don't care. And they don't believe. And so the reason they don't believe is they don't send their kids to public schools. Even though they never stop talking about how great public schools are unnecessary. They never live in the community they most tout or they're talking about they're concerned about. They care. They're into global warming, but they fly private. They don't care.

[Patrick Byrne]

They never eat their own cooking. They never eat their own cooking.

[Adam Carolla]

They don't. And Gavin Newsom talks about the dangers of COVID and shuts down outdoor dining and then goes to the French laundry and has dinner and then he goes to Sofi Stadium and takes pictures with Magic Johnson without a mask. So my point is he doesn't believe it. And I tell people this all the time. It's not like they go, oh, he's two faced or he's lying or he's a hypocrite. I go, no, no, he doesn't believe it. He believes it. He doesn't believe it because if he was in danger, he wouldn't do it. None of these people would ride a motorcycle without a helmet because they do believe a helmet protects them on a motorcycle. And it does. And they have the data and they would never get on a motorcycle. They would never get on a motorcycle at all. But if they did, they would put the helmet on. When you wave the helmet off, that means you don't believe it works. And when you wave the mask off, that means you don't believe it works. So he never did believe it. And most of these people, I don't think, believe it per se.

[Patrick Byrne]

Well, I don't think what I've learned over time is they're not deep enough to think and see the inconsistencies they would tell themselves they believe. They're not conscious that they don't believe these things. They just don't explore their own inconsistencies enough to realize they don't really believe these things that they say. It's just, well, it's really a posturing. They like to go through life posturing.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. I forgot it's written on the screen. But our mayor at the time, Eric Garcetti, took a picture with Magic Johnson, but he explained he held his breath. Now that could be considered pretty racist to a lot of the African American community. But he said, I took the mask off, but I held my breath, I took a picture of Magic Johnson. So he doesn't believe it. So my whole point is I don't really think any of these people believe it. But Then you get into this weird murky world of what do they believe versus what do they feel whether what's good for them. And now it gets really cross pollinatized.

[Patrick Byrne]

So I can tell you that they believe in tormenting other humans. And we have seen this the last five years. Once they thought they had. They thought they had forever power. Once they rigged the 2020 election, they thought they had forever power and they were never going to face repercussion. And they took their masks off and. And they said what they really believe. And what they really believe is a small elite should make the decisions for all the rest of us on every dimension of life from where you live in 15 minute cities to what you eat, you will eat the bugs, you know, to all kinds of things. They think the world would be better off if they could just make decisions for all the rest of us.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Patrick Byrne]

And they love to talk. You know, there's a lot of. These are sort of the kind of puny people who love to torment others. So you see the behavior of the Karens. The Karens that emerged in society unabashed for the first time. It's like they seem to. They're just busy buddies. They want to. They get off on quoting rules and making other people have to follow.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, there is a component of it that I wish was less evil and more just sort of misplaced, you know, in good intentions. But you start to realize it's not just what wanting what's best and being misguided. There's a sort of punitive side of it with the Karens and the masks and the all through. I saw it all through Covid. I was a recipient of a lot of it during COVID I however, do not care because I am in the accuracy game, not the popularity game. These guys are running for election and they're running for school president and clean class something and for them it's a popularity contest. For me it's an accuracy competition. So I don't care about the numbers and all I care is about the accuracy and I don't know why my wiring is that way. But I had everybody attack me during COVID and I had no thoughts about it.

[Patrick Byrne]

Me too. Never bothered me in the least. Never troubled me in the least.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you may have F me money, which is better than FU money and I haven't checked your bank account, but I'm guessing there's FU money. FU money is good. Like FU money is. Here's what FU money is. FU money is some former employee is going to sue you and wants to settle up for 250 grand. And then your lawyer goes, I know you didn't do anything wrong, but just cut him the check for 250 cuz it's gonna cost 500 to fight this thing in court. And you go, fuck you. That's fu money. F me money is Twitter lying and shutting down dissent and physicians that have alternative views about COVID and then Elon Musk buying Twitter and at twice the going rate and going fuck it, I got F me money and now I'm gonna open it up. So F you money is good, but F me money, that's the best.

[Patrick Byrne]

That's the best.

[Adam Carolla]

You may have F me money, I.

[Patrick Byrne]

Had F me money, but I'm actually pretty much gave it all away in the last four or five years, defeating what I saw as a Bolshevik revolution. In fact, you had a colleague of mine on. I've spent the last two and a half years out of the country, cause as the book says, I was declared domestic extremist number one during the Biden administration. But I went out of the country and I spent two and a half years hacking Venezuela. And I had two colleagues in that one, the real leader and the other being a guy named Gary. And I saw recently. Gary Xcia Alphabet Gary we call him, was on your show, he and I and our leader, who's a third guy whose name I won't I'll call Zorro. We actually did that event for the last three years together where we ran all over the world tracking down clues to what was really going on in our election system. And Gary probably opens his mouth a bit too much and may have gotten a bit of his hand slapped for what he said on your show, but he was telling the truth about all that.

[Adam Carolla]

This Venezuela stuff. Yeah, yeah. So they were in here talking about basically all roads leading to Venezuela and leading to the machines and the voting machines and all the stuff we've been. Well, okay, we have been told in this country for coming on to 10 years that we were insane if we believed Russian collusion or we fought against. There are certain dogmas, certain truths. So Russian collusion definitely happened and then Trump was a catspaw of Putin. And if you didn't go all in on that scenario, then you were considered sort of fringy lunatic y tinfoil Hattie. So there was that one and then there was Steele dossier stuff and then there was Covid stuff that came in, and then there was Hunter Biden's laptop and there was lab origin, lab leak versus Covid origin stuff. And there were a few that had to do with labor, like George Floyd and some Black Lives Matter stuff, but basic. And then there was. The border was secure and you're nuts and all that. But basically, I would say for the conspiracy theorists, we're essentially 10 for 10. This isn't now moon landings and flat Earthers aside, and maybe Sandy Hook deniers aside, because that's a real deep fringe. But I'm saying all it took to get you on the list of sort of the fringe folks is to go, I don't know about January6. I don't call that an insurrection. And then you got lumped in with everything. But whether it was Jan6.

[Patrick Byrne]

Well, I'm beyond the pale. I take responsibility for Jan6. I took out advertisements in D.C. saying I'm responsible for January6. Have me in. I take. I'm the guy who started the. The movement about these election machines in the US So none of that stuff embarrasses me. I was actually there for a bunch of it. And I know we're living through something called a Besmanov psyop to overthrow the country.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, all elements of it. Right. So let's try to work a hierarchy of this, which is to say they're the people that are sort of at the top. Might say Obama, Hillary Clinton are sort of that ilk. Then you sort of move down to Adam Schiff type guys or guys slightly, they're the soldiers, Nancy Pelosi's or whatever. And then you get into sort of the sort of useful idiot, Anderson Cooper types, news, cnn, those voices. But late night show hosts, you know, guys. Yeah, right. Guys like CNN, sir. I'm sorry, 60 Minutes, you know, Leslie Stahl and that. So you get into the useful idiot. You get into the foot soldier. And then you get into this sort of Karen at the Whole Foods in Santa Monica, just boots on the ground, Dumbo on the street, double mask, got the Prius in the parking lot with the coexist bumper sticker that now you have sort of real in the trenches Dumbo, but it goes all the way up. And so who's kind of at the top of the pyramid? Is that like an Obama thing?

[Patrick Byrne]

No, Brennan and Obama were at the top of the pyramid as far as the US Goes. But there are people behind them internationally, and they're the same people that you saw whose hand you saw in the COVID thing, and that's Soros and Klaus Schaub and the wef. The. That's. There's really two hands internationally. It's China and the wef they all they both agreed on overthrowing the US and instituting a globalist order. It's just that after the US was overthrown which was the fake election of 2020 they fought China's wanted the international order to be based in centered on Beijing and the globalists want it centered in Central Europe. But that's the only their basic idea of how to run the world is the same.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? So Klaus Schwab and then and so all the other folks become sort of useful idiots in the terms of like Foushee or the head of the CDC or these sorts of heads of these organizations that just get up there and sort of say whatever.

[Patrick Byrne]

No, it's more structured than that. It's more structured than that. First of all, I should make clear I used to work for them. So you would you'll know this if you bother read the book. I was a TS SEI Federal person who worked for Comey and Brennan and Barack Obama. In fact, Barack Obama elevated me to the national intelligence asset in the book. So I've done all kinds of things all over the world and I actually may as well the book comes clean about I come clean about as little of it as I can come clean about and still tell the story. But if this all sounds crazy, can I read you the opening sentence from General Flynn? Michael Flynn wrote the introduction and he opened it saying, through my work as a senior intelligence officer in the world of national security and special operations, I've known about the courageous work Patrick Byrne has been directed to do on behalf of the US Government. Most people don't understand the work of national intelligence assets, blah, blah, blah. So General Flynn, three Star General is confirming I'm not a guy who's just seen too much Hollywood. I've worked for the government my whole life. Overstock was more or less a cover job, it seemed to me for 20 years. I mean I was so heavily working for the government. So I know everything. In fact, in 2006, some people took me to lunch and said, you've done such nice work for us, Patrick, in this area. Would you be willing to move under a certain another high speed group will be giving you your orders? I said, sure. That woman who asked, who took me to lunch and asked me that emerged seven years later as John Brennan's number two. So I think I was actually working for Brennan since 06 and never knew it. But I knew all the secrets and in particular 2015, 2016, I know all the secrets of the Russia thing and all the Secrets of the Hillary thing. They're in the book or I'll tell you.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, you can tell me. So I was just watching a clip of Bill Maher who tries, I think his whole thing. But it's difficult because what these guys do is they go all in early on. Something like lab leaks versus wet markets or Russiagate and all that kind of stuff. They go all in hard. Ivermectin or whatever it is, they go all in hard and then they have to kind of slowly extricate themselves from it. And the way they extricate themselves, which Bill Maher will do. So go look, maybe they didn't prove Russian collusion, but this isn't a nothing burger. There's something there. They just didn't really. They sort of treat it like a murder case where the guy wasn't convicted but there's plenty of evidence and he just had a good lawyer. Right. That's the way. Now he's walking the street. But if he didn't have all that money to throw at that world class lawyer, we wouldn't. He would be in jail where he belongs.

[Patrick Byrne]

Have you noticed how so much of their persuasive technique on air, the gentleman you mentioned is along the lines of, you don't want to be laughed at for not being in the in group. Everything with them is we in the in group. Of course we know this and of course we know that. We all know that. And the audience all laughs along knowingly.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Patrick Byrne]

I'm always reminded watching them of a line of Mark Twain. Mark Twain said, it's not what we don't know that hurts us, it's what we know for sure that just ain't so. And all these, all the jokes work because they all know all these things for sure. So Bill Maher doesn't even have to really explain anything because we all know this, we all know that. And all these things they think they know are totally bogus. They're not. They turn out to be wrong. But they just carry this, they carry themselves with this arrogance. And all good people know, we all agree.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, they do. And then when it turns out to be wrong, they either never bring it up again or they go, it wasn't too totally wrong. There was some stuff in there.

[Patrick Byrne]

That's why I can't wait till they have to grok what's in this book. What's in this book is such a red pill. It's a little hard to be a little.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, tell me about. Let's just go. Russian collusion. I'll show you the clip of Bill Maher. Just so you, you see. And you know, he makes a metaphor and gives an example and it's sort of like, all right, let's see.

[Bill Maher]

I see Nate Silver, really smart guy, says this is their Russiagate. This is a new Russia Gate. I would like to take exception to this analogy because this has really obsessed me while I was off this month because Tulsi Gabbard is going after the Democrats. She says Obama is a traitor, basically who tried to pull off a coup. That's rich. She said President Obama and his national security cabinet members manufacture and politicize intelligence to lay the groundwork for what was essentially a years long coup. It's the. I know you are one of my defense. But, you know, it has astonished me for quite a while that a lot of people, not just on the right, people sort of in the middle, have been saying for a very long time now that Russiagate was a nothing burger. I think it makes them feel like I was the smart one who said that all along Russia Gate was Russia Gate, nothing burger. It was a burger. Maybe it wasn't a juicy steak, but it was a burger. I would like to show you one little piece of tape and then we could talk about it. That I remember because their contention is that, you know, Putin had no preference in this election. That's why we know this was a conspiracy of Obama. I remember this from Helsinki.

[Patrick Byrne]

This is.

[Bill Maher]

They're asking Putin directly in Helsinki now.

[Adam Carolla]

He found an inappropriate.

[Rudy Pavic]

Did you want Trump to win the election and did you direct any of.

[Adam Carolla]

Your officials to help him do that?

[Patrick Byrne]

Yes, I did. Yes, I do. Come on.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so Putin said, yes, I did. All right, so what would you say to that?

[Patrick Byrne]

I'd say, show me the next 10 seconds of what Putin said.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah. Is what I. Is what I would say because.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, well, maybe we'll find that.

[Patrick Byrne]

Because he doesn't say that. He's not saying that in any substantive sense in the way that Bill Maher. This is weird.

[Adam Carolla]

So Bill says it's not a nothing burger. It's a burger. It's just not a steak.

[Patrick Byrne]

Okay. I may be the one guy in the country that can say this. For me, this is not a theory. This is memories. I was part of it. I set up the Russian collusion hoax. That's why you have pictures of me dating this good looking redhead, this Russian spy, alleged Russian spy, Maribatina. Yeah, that's why I have pictures dating here. I was sent by the FBI. The whole Russia thing was being cooked up from July 2015, a year before they say they even became aware of any of this was being cooked up. July 2015, arguably February 2015. And I was part of it. It's not a theory. And then they had me go from doing that to bribing Hillary Clinton, so. Which I successfully did. So I can promise you it all started around Thanksgiving of 2015. Barack Obama, John Brennan and James Comey started a soft on the United States. I was part of it.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, who started the start of it? Like, whose direction?

[Patrick Byrne]

Brennan on Obama. Comey's a butt boy. It's Brennan Obama.

[Adam Carolla]

So Brennan's. Yeah. So Jim Comey seems sort of useful. Idiot. E. But Brennan seems pretty diabolical. So why did they start it?

[Patrick Byrne]

They started it to take over the country. They did two things. They set up a Republican Russian scandal on the Republicans. So no matter who walked into power was going to come face a Russian scandal.

[Adam Carolla]

So it wouldn't matter if it was Trump or not?

[Patrick Byrne]

Absolutely not.

[Adam Carolla]

Mitt Romney would have faced the same thing.

[Patrick Byrne]

In fact, Maria told me her assignment was to build relations into the Cruz, Rubio, Hillary, Cruz Rubio or Trump campaign. So whoever won, she had access to. So Cruz Rubio or Trump when she came over here, Trump, Trump. They were setting this up on Cruz, Rubio or Trump on Hillary. They set up a bribe. They had me bribe her $18 million so they could blackmail her. It's a hell of a story in the book. I'll tell you quick, quickly, but sure. I can actually explain something if you listen to me for the next two minutes. What? So that your viewers will get the last 10 years so clearly, so the details, it's in the book. I was set up. I was directed to set up Hillary Clinton in a bribe with bagman from Azerbaijan. My assignment was to get her in a room for 10 minutes with the bag man. I achieved that. January 16, 2016. She was in the room, took an $18 million bribe from Azerbaijan. Afterwards, three days later, my handlers told me I had to forget the whole thing ever happened. And I said, why? And they said, well, it's all been reanalyzed, Patrick. And we know that Hillary's going to be president in 10 months. Nothing can stop it. And she's going to come in and the first thing she's going to do is send her goons over to the FBI and say, who investigated Hillary? And we're all going to be destroyed. And our chain of command, and this includes you, Patrick. So you got to forget every second of this happened now this is after we had successfully bribed her. So I thought that was odd. And about 10 days later, I got back together with them to say, I think that's odd. You got 10 months. And they came this time with John Brennan from the CIA, sent his personal representative, an ambassador to me, along with these FBI agents. And, and what I was told was, Patrick, and this is word for word, it's in the movie that I was told that what's really going on is this. At this point, Hillary Clinton, at this point, President Obama. So this is early February 2016. And if you just listen to this line, you will understand the last 10 years they said, patrick, at this point, President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy, but especially the Department of Justice. Hillary Clinton is going to be president for 10 years, for eight years, and nothing's going to change that. But while she's president, think of it this way. Think of the information about the bribe you know about is sitting on a Bunsen burner in the doj. There's a Bunsen burner and the bribe information sitting there, the hand on the Bunsen burner is one of Barack Obama's people. If Hillary's a good girl and defends Obamacare, that flames going to stay low. If she's a bad girl and thinks for herself, the flame gets turned up that way, Barack Obama is going to manage Hillary Clinton for eight years, then she steps down and Michelle's going to run and, and Patrick, that's the plan. As of 2016, that was the plan. That's exactly what happened. And by the way, I've said all this under oath to the J6 committee. When they finally, when I. That's all under oath to the J6, we bribe Hillary. And then I was told that it was going to be used so Barack Obama could blackmail her for the eight years she was in prison in office. And then Michelle was going to run.

[Adam Carolla]

You talked to the J6 committee?

[Patrick Byrne]

Oh, yeah. And it's all in the testimony, which is available publicly.

[Adam Carolla]

And they didn't want to hear what you had to say.

[Patrick Byrne]

Oh, they knew all this. That's why they didn't want me. And I shamed them with $50,000 of ads until they finally let me in. And I gave, I answered their questions and told them this on the record, under oath.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, but that's not part of their production deal when they were essentially getting a television producer to put this thing together so they could sort of theatrically trot it out in front of the American public.

[Patrick Byrne]

Right, correct. In fact, there's something really even funnier about it. Something that tipped, you see, Mike Flynn, who wrote the intro to this, something that tipped him off so much. There was this famous event that you might remember December 18, 2020, in the midst of all the scramble about the election. Remember how the Oval Office was that. That General Michael Flynn, Sidney Powell and someone else got kind of snuck into the Oval Office and met with the President for four hours. It was in all the pages, papers. That was me. And that. And when we did that. I'm sorry, why was I telling you that? Why was it?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you talk about January 6th.

[Patrick Byrne]

Oh, well, yeah. Anyway, the January. I was there for the. I was literally in the room for the conversations. The whole January 6th thing was, oh, oh, that's right. In January 6th, when they announced. That's where I was going. When they announced the hearing, in the first days of the hearing and the first night of the hearing, Liz Cheney and whoever the Democrat was got up and made speeches and for 10 minutes about how this was an insurrection, all this stuff. When Liz Cheney made her speech, she got up, she said. And she ended it saying. And on the night of December 18, the Oval Office was penetrated by General Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell and somebody else. And Flynn came in the next morning to see me and said, why can't they even mention your name? And I said, sir, it's because I'm the krypt. I'm kryptonite to the deep state. And he said, why is that? And I sat and explained it all. And that's what he understands. So I'm. This stuff I'm telling you, I'm not. This isn't a conspiracy theory. Someone could say I'm lying, but I was in the middle of all of it. And what I'm telling you is the truth. It was all set up by Barack Obama to take over the country, whether Hillary won or the Republican one. And it was being set up before Trump even declared, before he came down the escalator. We were setting up the Russian collusion hoax. It was all being set up.

[Adam Carolla]

So it would have been applied to.

[Patrick Byrne]

Any Republican, would have found himself facing a Russia, Russia resurrection.

[Adam Carolla]

It makes sense. And so then you got Soros, and Soros. It's an interesting, just sort of psychological thing. The only thing I can think of as him is wanting chaos for this country. He talks about justice or he talks about equal rights, or he talks about, you know, Black Lives Matter, whatever it is. But it seems like he is just an agent of chaos. And I don't know what is first off, I don't know. Is he 90? Like when does this end? I know his son is coming to the fore, but he's 94. These guys never go away for some reason. Home Chef well, you know, the kids are back in school. Between drop offs and homework and picking up socks on the floor, last thing you want to think about is what's for dinner. That's where Home Chef saves the day. They send fresh pre portioned meals right to the door. You just open the box, follow a couple easy steps and boom, dinner's done. I make one of their oven ready chicken dishes. I made one last week. It came out perfect, crispy, juicy and didn't destroy my kitchen in the process. Very easy to clean up. Home Chef makes cooking simple fresh food delivered easy recipes and meals that actually taste good. So whether you want a full 30 minute dinner, something oven ready or even a microwavable meal, Home Chef's got it all. They've got your family menu too. So everyone eats happy. And there's a nice bonus. Home Chef customers save an average of 86 bucks a month on groceries. That's right. The supermarket's so expensive these days, it's Home Chef. Right, Dawson.

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[Adam Carolla]

But. And then where's Obama? Like, like, you know, Obama comes out and you kind of go, oh, okay, he's kind of moderate and he's kind of this and that. And then every year that goes by. He and Michelle seem more radical to me, and they seem like race hustlers, and they don't seem like they like this country at all.

[Patrick Byrne]

Well, if you look back 19 years, they actually did show us that back then. From, you know, Michelle saying this, the first time I've ever been proud of my country, the night that Obama got the primary or the nomination to, you know, just the way Obama talked about these people clutching to their guns and their religion.

[Adam Carolla]

He went to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and basically apologized for us bombing them.

[Patrick Byrne]

They're like college faculty is where they. And they hate America.

[Adam Carolla]

Hate America. It's become clear to me that they do, even though they say they love America and then they go on and say, what's wrong with America?

[Patrick Byrne]

All day, every day, but they were able to keep it in check. And now that they're older and there's less reason to. It's like there's. They don't mask it as well as they did 20 years ago, but it's always been there. I think that the goal was actually to. Over there are some people who would light the world on fire just to watch it burn. What the last five years has shown us, there's absolute. I hate to sound like a Bible thumper, but there really are these. You might as well just call them demons. There are people who are just so evil that they. They don't think like you. And I think about, like, basic obligations to the world.

[Adam Carolla]

So this goes beyond Obama, but Obama and Brennan's kind of the instigator. And what jeopardy is everybody in now? Because I know you hear rumblings and you feel like Trump is trying to do something, and I don't know, Dan Bongino's trying to do something, Harmeet Dhillon's trying to do something, and Pam Bondi's trying to do something, and Jim Jordan's trying to do something. There's like all these kind of people that are kind of making the rounds and they're saying stuff that seems reasonable and people have kind of heard, but they're not really reacting to and they're not really capturing the imagination of the public because so many people are just sort of set and they're dumb and they believe what they believe and they're getting their, you know, 15th Covid booster shot, you know, tomorrow.

[Patrick Byrne]

Like, there's a lot of working yet. I just had Covid again. I better. I better get a 16th.

[Adam Carolla]

But what are we. How much jeopardy is there for a Jim Comey and John Brennan and Obama and Hillary Clinton? And it just sort of keeps going like real jeopardy.

[Patrick Byrne]

In any normal world, there would be tremendous jeopardy. If someone like Mike Flynn were running things, this would have been over by about February 15th, and all of them would have been handcuffs. What the bad guys have going for them is we still have a very active deep state. The DOJ in particular is stuffed with people that Obama brought in. They have zero respect for the rule of law, and they are absolutely playing the things that are happening now could have happened in the first 30 days of Trump's presidency. He still doesn't understand how much internal resistance he has. It's different than the first term, though. In the first term, there was internal resistance from deep staters who hated him. A lot of that, half of that or more has been stripped out now. There's resistance from people who are afraid of being hung. What the Democrats are doing is the law firms that got snipped, those law firms are spending their time writing up indictments for treason and letting people know anyone who cooperates with Trump in this term is going to be hit with treason charges when the next time they're in power. So a lot of people in the DOJ are actually afraid to go along with. Just afraid to. Because they don't know if they're going to be paying a price for it themselves.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Because if there's a changing of the guard in three years, then they're going to be drawn up.

[Patrick Byrne]

But this is a Bolshevik revolution, and we just have to understand we are up against people who have zero commitment. I mean, these are the same people just did lockdowns and experimental, mandatory experimental jabs, violation of the Nuremberg Convention and, you know, the law, everything. Can we go back a step? And it sounds like you might find really interesting to hear about what a Besmanov psyop is. It's a way to overthrow a society without firing a shot.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he did an interview in the 80s, I think you can see on YouTube somewhere.

[Patrick Byrne]

And his thinking is still. And it's. The idea is that you can, in four steps, overthrow our society. You weaken and confuse. You weaken and demoralize them. You disorient and confuse them. Then you shove a crisis down their throat. And then you. You normalize. And that is you get everyone to accept what just happened by saying the only way back to normalcy and out of psychosis is to accept what just happened. For us, the demoralization was Covid. The way it was mistreated, the way we couldn't use ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. We're made to take these crazy shots. The disorientation was antifa and the crisis was the fake election. And then the normalization that was cancel culture. We were just marched through with military precision. This is why Flynn and I get along so well. He is the. He's the professor emeritus of this stuff. We were just marched through with military precision. A psyop to overthrow the country. We were never supposed to get out of it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. The part that's scary to me is how many people just willingly go along with it and immediately go along with it. But as I was saying to Dr. Drew the other day, I said, you know, we launched. Somebody launched a campaign that basically their goal was to say men could be women and women could be men and little girls could be little boys, and little boys could compete against little girls in the swimming pool or on the soccer field. And that seems like a herculean task. Like, that seems like a really difficult thing to push through. Like, who's going to believe this? You know, like, there are things that we do, like the food pyramid. Food pyramid was a line. It was bullshit. But it's not that tough a sell. You know, you start saying meat is murder and whole grains and wholesome heart healthy grains. You start doing a lot of heart healthy and grains and whole grains and all that. You do enough of it, and people go, you know what? I'm gonna have that bran muffin for breakfast instead of the egg. I'm trying to be healthy. I'm trying to lose a few pounds. They're heart healthy. That. But men can be women and women can be men and little girls can be little boys and so on and so forth, and we'll chop their parts off if we need to. And hormone therapy. The fact that we got everyone to more than half the countries who go along with this in a really short period of time means we have a very malleable group to deal with. And we can sell them about anything. And as a matter of fact, Covid lab leak versus wet market ivermectin. That's nothing compared to selling them that men can be women and women can be men. It was basically sold about the same time 2. So we are very malleable in a super scary, disconcerting way. Like I was yelling at my fellow Americans during COVID What the fuck are you people doing? Why are you listening to these people?

[Patrick Byrne]

I assume you got no jabs.

[Adam Carolla]

No. And. And I. I was yelling at everybody. What are you doing?

[Patrick Byrne]

So it was so obvious.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. When I was calling them pussies and cowards the entire time, and everyone just went right in and then would start attacking me.

[Patrick Byrne]

Isn't it weird to know that we're living among people like that and it's like 50, 60% of us are like, that weak.

[Adam Carolla]

It is, but in a weird way, it's like they're werewolves, but there's almost never a full moon, so we don't really have to worry about it. But if there is a full moon, then we do have to worry about it. But it's not like there's a full moon once a month. There's a full moon like once every 11 years or something. Something. So we don't really think about it. Like, it really. Like if you had a teenage son who was a werewolf and someone was like, yeah, but he's normal in every way until there's a full moon and then he turns into a werewolf. But you're like, but we don't really have full moons anymore. You kind of go like, well, it's weird, but okay. And I think that's kind of what it is. Like, they're nice. Their parents, their moms, their dads, their employees, their co workers, their neighbors, and they're all good unless shit goes down and then they turn into lemming pussies who do tons of damage to our society. And I never let them off the hook. And I never stop calling them pussies, and I never stop calling them cowards. And that's my job. But.

[Patrick Byrne]

But let me give you.

[Adam Carolla]

The next thing comes down the pike, they're in.

[Patrick Byrne]

Let me give you one scientific basis for why you might find a little bit to forgive them about. They know. See, the men can be women stuff, that's not. It's not about convincing people. It's about disorienting. It's about inversion. One of the techniques is inverting.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Oh, they don't think it, and they wouldn't want it for their son.

[Patrick Byrne]

They just want to get.

[Adam Carolla]

Everybody want to get along. Yeah, yeah.

[Patrick Byrne]

That they know also. And this. This was research started to be done 100 years ago in a place called the Tavistock Institute. And after World War I in London, they know that when people are traumatized, you can. Once your amygdala actually, which is your fight or flight part of your brain, once you've been under enough stress for about two months, they can start hitting you with repetition and you will start buying what they tell you. In addition, when your amygdala is firing, you're no longer Thinking from your frontal cortex, you're thinking from the fight or flight part of your brain, and you become a lemming. People. Humans become lemmings once they're panicked.

[Adam Carolla]

And.

[Patrick Byrne]

And just like if you're a rescue diver or a lifeguard, you get taught you can't just swim up on somebody who's drowning. They will drown you too. You have to step back and teach them how to get themselves under control. Their frontal cortex isn't working anymore when they're in a panic. And they got us so panicked with COVID and showing us movies of people dropping dead and hospitals filled and all this stuff, they got people panicking and thinking from their amygdala. And when that happens, they become total lemmings. And so I'm sure you had this. You could show them all kinds of data, data up the wazoo about COVID and they can look at the data, and they'll do the exact opposite because they're just. They're operating as a lemming.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I like to call that chick think, but there's a lot of dudes who got sucked over to that side of the aisle, and so a lot of dudes thinking like chicks.

[Patrick Byrne]

That's a different phenomenon. Another with a biological basis, too.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a big problem going on with chick think.

[Patrick Byrne]

Absolutely. The less testosterone you have, the more vulnerable you are to social cues. And they have now discovered this in men as well. With lower testosterone, they become more. It's about fitting into the group. You ever see hens in a hen peck? You know, they really do have a pecking order. And the hens spend all this energy policing each other on the pecking order rather than just eating the food. There's something in the female psychology that drives them crazy when people are not in the hierarchy and doing what they're supposed to. And. And that was a major. They know. The communists know that Mao harnessed that, too. Mao harnessed that?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Gyno fascism, by the way, is what it's called. It's coming. There's articles. I've been sounding the alarm for a long time. I just call it chick think, but it's a problem. It's a problem. I guess it's fine during good times, but it's a problem during war times and Covid times and stressful, stressful times. And everyone thinks I'm a misogynist douchebag.

[Patrick Byrne]

It's documented. Is it? Documented psychological effect. And men, as your testosterone drops, you start reacting more like a female.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. That's why.

[Patrick Byrne]

Social proof.

[Adam Carolla]

That's Where Barack Obama and Gavin Newsom and Justin Trudeau get the super deep leg cross. The guys who do the leg cross, every time they do a panel or sit down in front of audience or do anything or do a podcast, their legs cross so hard and so chicky that it's a phenomenon, but it's a signaling. It's a presenting almost. And it's another interesting phenomenon that I've been noticing. Since when did guys do the deep leg cross? Well, only guys on the left do it.

[Patrick Byrne]

Is this a deep leg cross?

[Adam Carolla]

No, that's how you would cross your leg. You put your ankle on your kneecap. Oh, no. I mean, show me Obama.

[Patrick Byrne]

That's a deep leg cross.

[Adam Carolla]

No, you don't even. I don't even know when you see Obama, when you see Justin Trudeau and when you see Gavin Newsom. Just so you guys don't think we're talking about women. We're talking about chick think, which affects plenty of dudes. And they're guys. We had Eric Garcetti, who was the mayor of Los Angeles. That guy thinks like a chick. It's like chick think, panic think, scary think. If one life is lost, that's one too many. That's all chick think, let's not win the war kind of think. That is all chick think. So it's fear based, dumb chick think. But by the way, Tulsi Gabbard doesn't have it. Oh, right. And neither historically did Margaret Thatcher didn't have it. It's not all about the genitalia, but there are plenty of dudes who think that way. And Obama's got it. And we're looking at Obama. I must have stuff I'm not sure.

[Patrick Byrne]

I even came across. I can't.

[Adam Carolla]

No, you can't, because you don't think enough like a chick. But he's talking to Prince Harry or Prince Albert or Prince whoever. The point is, is they all.

[Patrick Byrne]

I should have seen that.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you've never seen it?

[Patrick Byrne]

Never noticed it.

[Adam Carolla]

You're gonna see it everywhere. Now go to who was whenever these Prince William. Whenever these guys get up and they sit with like minded guys, they signal each other like the gay community with a bandana in their rear pocket. Here's how I cross my legs. And now you know we're friends. You know who we are. I don't. I do not pose a threat. Now, when Jesson Trudeau does it, he likes to also show off his stylish socks, which is another presentation. Now, Gavin Newsom does. Obama does deep, deep. Gavin Newsom does Deep. And then when Trump does is he spreads his knees and he makes a diamond with his thumb and forefingers to accentuate his nut sack and then puts it in front of his nut sack and sits that way. I am telling you, I am telling you, he literally will make a diamond out of his hands and put it in front of his nutsack. You'll never see Trump do the deep cross like those guys do. So there is a chick think phenomenon going on. People are starting to pick it up, they're starting to write about it. It's a real thing. And it's a thing in that women think differently than men and they approach danger differently than men, much differently than me. I don't approach danger the way any woman I've ever been with has ever approached danger. They approach it very differently than I do. And as testosterone goes down and society kind of goes up, it becomes softer and more indoor jobs and less barn raising and sawmills and working the land and moving into air conditioning and cubicles and also effemination. Like, you gotta go along with this stuff. Like, you gotta. You better do not compliment a woman on a woman's dress, who you work with anymore or anything close to that. You'll be shunned. Well, then dudes are turning into chicks, essentially. And then we're getting policy, and the policy is horrible because it's chicks and dudes who think like chicks. And then there's places like California, which is all chick think. And now we're fucked.

[Patrick Byrne]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what we got.

[Patrick Byrne]

You would think at some point, part of the think would be waking up and realizing, gee, this isn't working out as we hoped. California, when I first came here 40 years ago, it was the promised land and it's not so golden anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, so the. This isn't working out how we've hoped takes a backseat into sort of the immediate acceptance of right now. Like, I need to be liked now. I'm not on a layaway plan with popularity. I need it today. And so guys, also a lot of guys want to get laid. So they will say whatever the fuck they got to say in the chick think department to see if they can get laid.

[Patrick Byrne]

That's a big mistake.

[Adam Carolla]

It's basically Occupy Wall Street. You know, it's a bunch of dude, there's like five dudes there that are really worried about Wall street. And then the other 95% are guys trying to get laid who show up.

[Patrick Byrne]

It's a date.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, douse yourself in patchouli oil and put on your Birkenstocks and get down with the cost so you can get a blowjob. That's another phenomenon.

[Patrick Byrne]

Sign me up.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. That people don't fully understand. But this whole feminization thing is a big deal. It's a big problem. And less people think it's a pejorative. Here's what I'm saying. What I'm saying is there is a balance and the balance is off. It's not to say that women think in an inferior way. If you have a mom and you have a dad and you're raising kids, then there's her perspective and then there's his perspective and there's a sort of balance to be struck. And maybe he's going to be a little more tough love and she's going to be a little more nurturing and it all come out as a sort of balance. But in California, it's not a mom and a dad, it's three moms and a neutered dad. And now we're making decisions based on that. And that gets into closing schools for two years and lock yourself in your house in double mask and you're ends.

[Patrick Byrne]

Up a little boy's a girl and if you don't like it, then you're a boyfriend.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So that is an imbalance Child protector.

[Patrick Byrne]

Isn't child protective service getting into the.

[Adam Carolla]

Act out era, I'm sure. So that's an imbalance. And then you're gonna have trouble and then your society's gonna fall apart. So that's what we're dealing with.

[Patrick Byrne]

You got it. We figured the same things out, but for you looking in a mirror here.

[Adam Carolla]

So Obama is. They're setting the table for Russian collusion regardless of Trump or not. Then Trump comes in and they unfurl it. They unfurl it and then Trump wins and they're gonna go back and sort of. So I described it like this, but you can tell me what you think. It's a sort of a thing where you go, there's a coaching job that's open and you go, I want my guy to be the coach. And I work real hard to get my guy to be the coach of the NFL team, but my guy doesn't get the job, the other guy gets the job. So step two is I'm going to do whatever I can to make sure they have a losing season.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then next time when they're looking for a coach, my guy will get in there. So Obama wants Hillary Clinton in there, but when it turns out it's not her, his guy. Then we move on to losing season. We're going to see if I can hurt the team season.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Is that accurate?

[Patrick Byrne]

And here we thought we were all on the same team, but these lefties are not on our team at all. They are not on Team America at all.

[Adam Carolla]

Right?

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah, that's just. That's right.

[Adam Carolla]

So Obama then goes, get me something that says there's some Russian collusion here involved with Trump's election. And there really isn't.

[Patrick Byrne]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, when Bill Maher says something burger, what is it? Like if you were making a case for Bill, like if you're being real generous to Bill, what is there at.

[Patrick Byrne]

This point in terms of Trump knowingly taking assistance? There's at this point nothing that I can think of. I can tell you what the big juicy explosion is at the core of the Russia hoax, but that nobody's sort of got there yet. So here I was dating this Russian girl and this is heavy. Oh, you haven't seen it. God, I almost don't want to spoil the surprise. I knew I was working for Obama, Brennan and Comey and I knew what they had done and I knew what they were doing. So I set them up in a little sting. I'm dating this Russian girl. I deliberately. Well, I deliberately told the Russian girl that said there was a. Two times we dated. One was very physical, to be honest. The other time, their direction, I told her, this time we're dating. I'm not going to lay a finger on you. You sleep in the guest room and blah, blah, blah. We're going to be real old fashioned. And after six months, if you want to marry me, we'll get married. I reported to Brennan and Comey just the opposite. I reported that I had actually drugged her and introduced her to weed, got her totally wasted, questioned her, could find no discrepancies. Brennan, Comey and Obama were okay with that. So two weeks later, I let my handlers, I told my handler as well that when I had gotten her drugged and she was, I raped her. And so I put Comey, Brennan and Obama in the position of if they wanted to go forward, they had with this Russia, fake Russia thing we were setting up, they had to sign off on that.

[Adam Carolla]

What you told them directly?

[Patrick Byrne]

I told them that while she was drunk and wasted, I'd had. They asked me, did you have sex with her? I said, yeah, when she was drunk and passed out.

[Adam Carolla]

When you say them, though, not all at the same time in the same room.

[Patrick Byrne]

No, it was three. I was with my three handlers two reported to Comey, one to Brennan. And they were telling me, we're going back and reporting directly on video conference to them. And this is all being done at the request of Obama. So I reported that I drugged her and raped her. Two weeks later they came back and we were greenlight to continue. Which tells me Comey and Brennan Obama said, we don't care if Byrne is drugged and raped this girl. We got a. We got a Russia hoax to set up. You. You agents overlook that. So I waited another few weeks and I proposed that I murder her. To their credit, the agents jumped up in my face and threatened to kill me on the spot. They said if anything happened, we don't care what orders come from dc if you harm a hair in this girl's head, we're going to kill yourselves. But that went back to Brennan and Comey and Obama. And I didn't know for a year. So I created a sting that put them in the position if they were to continue the Russ, they had to sign off on aggravated rape and murder. And the three agents, it turned out, I found out two years later, the three agents refused to continue. They thought that I had lost my mind and I was going to go through with this until Barack Obama signed a presidential letter instructing three federal agents to overlook their belief that I had drugged, raped and was planning on murdering a girl so that we could continue setting up a fake Russia hoax. And when I walked in in 2018 and laid this all out to the DOJ, they told me, you know, you're in a lot of trouble if this girl doesn't confirm your story. She confirmed. She said he was the most perfect gentleman to me. I could have didn't. I had no idea anyone was like this. I was flying her. She was flying around in private jets, fancy restaurants, wouldn't lay a finger on me. I was wondering what was. So she confirmed the whole story. But at the heart of this book, the big secret is I tricked Barack Obama into signing off on the rape and murder of Maria Bettina. And I'm told it's the biggest secret in the US Government. They have focus groups trying to figure out how to spin this when it comes out. Barack Obama and John Brennan signed off on the rape and murder of Maria Butina so that we could continue setting up a completely fake Russia hoax.

[Adam Carolla]

And this is what year.

[Patrick Byrne]

Sorry, that was 2016-2016-2015-2016.

[Adam Carolla]

So what? Brennan's been indicted or subpoenaed or whatever. He's going in. He's getting close.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Are they ever gonna get close to Obama?

[Patrick Byrne]

They're gonna get Clapper or Comey is gonna give up the goods. I would imagine one of them is gonna talk and then.

[Adam Carolla]

So you think Comey or Clapper's gonna.

[Patrick Byrne]

Roll over or maybe the guy from nsa. There was a guy from NSA who actually Rogers, who probably did Trump a big favor. He's the one who went to Trump while in the 2016 campaign. And let him know they're spying on you. Obama's spying on you in Trump Tower. That was. He was one of those people near the top is going to roll and it's going to be able to give them. Well, I know they, I think they already have. Everything I've just told you has already been confirmed.

[Adam Carolla]

So someone's going to roll or someone has rolled and that roll will roll into Obama.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah, Obama was at the top of the org chart again. I think behind it all is guys like Soros and Schwab. But it was Obama and Brennan. And the other thing to know is I think Obama's Brennan's asset. I think Obama was an asset of Brennan. I think Brennan created Obama. That'd be a good hypothesis.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. All right. Can you come back sooner than later and continue this?

[Patrick Byrne]

Let me know when you've read the book. I'll come. Or seen the movie. Just see the movie. I'll let you know.

[Adam Carolla]

I will. Danger Close. Name of the book docu series is Enemy within. The enemy within three part docu series available now on Amazon. Rumble, YouTube TV as well. Patrick, Very interesting.

[Patrick Byrne]

And I'll come back. Gar and I'll come back maybe. Although we don't really like each other, we spent too many months overseas. And I'll we'll tell you about Venezuela.

[Adam Carolla]

Is this why there's a flotilla heading toward or outside of Venezuela right now?

[Patrick Byrne]

You're a sharp guy, Carolla, but I'm not going to say any more than that.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, Patrick, thank you. We'll do Rudy and news right after this. Homes.com oh man. Some might say homes.com is the best home shopping site. Well, maybe because homes.com's super comprehensive and transparent agent directory. Or Maybe it's at. Homes.com is the only site that always directly connects you with the listing agent who knows the home the best. Perhaps it's because homes.com has the most in depth neighborhood content of any home shopping site that's extensively researched to highlight the personality of each neighborhood. Homes.com goes above and beyond to bring home shoppers the in depth info they need to find the right home right away. I love these guys. I'm always on their site. I like it's a hobby of mine. I like checking out houses. Homes.com, we've done your homework. O'Reilly Auto Parts. Yeah, you know the jingle. Well, these guys keep your car on the road so you don't end up stuck on the shoulder looking like a dope. Friendly, helpful service people who actually know their stuff, not just some kid who'd rather be on his phone or is probably looking on his phone when he's talking to you. I've always used O'Reilly. I used them back in the day when I drove a truck and now I drive an electric car. And I still use O'Reilly because I got a lot of stuff for my race cars from O'Reilly. Thousands of parts and accessories stocked in store and online so you don't have to panic when the check engine light appears. Need wipers swapped, a brake light out. These pros help you find what you need or look up a shop nearby. If you're not a DIY type, they'll help you out. So whether you're a gearhead or you don't know a lug nut from a donut, they'll walk you through it. No attitude, just real help. Stop by O'Reilly Auto Parts today or visit us@o'reillyauto.com Adam. That's o'reillyauto.com Adam.

[Show Announcer]

It's time to check Adam's voicemail.

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, S. I've been working the TaskRabbit, you know, just doing handyman crap because obviously I have no skills. Anyway, I'm moving this arcade game upstairs for these gay guys and the other guy, you know, was grabbing the bottom of the thing. I'm grabbing the top of the thing and I made a top bottom joke.

[Rudy Pavic]

And nobody got it.

[Adam Carolla]

It's like, come on, man. There's nothing funny anymore on the top. You're the bottom or you whatever. Come on, it's funny off.

[Show Announcer]

You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. I love that. I love a good top and bottom joke. Yeah, great.

[Rudy Pavic]

I wonder what Garcade game that guy was talking about.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Mr. Fister. Yeah, I don't know. That was the name of my gay bar. All right, Rudy, you got some news.

[Rudy Pavic]

Let's do it. Pranksters in a scare in scary Halloween mask terrified a family member in a hoax that needlessly cost more than 100 hours of police manpower and could have had deadly consequences. A 9, 11 caller on October 14 reported that there were three masked individuals making threats at her door. A video of the scary Halloween encounter captured on the home's doorbell camera was went viral after multiple community tips helped Investigators learn the three masked people were boys, ages 14 to 16, who were two sons and a nephew of the pranks perpetrator, a cousin of the victim.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, Mike August doesn't make a lot of great points, but he did make a great point the other day, which is you go into the Home Depot and they have like a 11 foot tall werewolf and witchy poos. 12ft. And he's like massive, massive animatronic stuff that, you know, all I do is I go, God, my family would have never, ever bought any of that shit. But how cool is it being a kid today? But he goes, where do you put it all year?

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Like I'm. I know it breaks down. Like, I know it's. You don't have to have a 14 foot werewolf in your garage all year long. Like it breaks apart, but it's still 11 foot tall. Like it could break into three pieces and go in a box somewhere. But I mean, by the time you do the whole front yard, that's taken up the entire garage during the off season. And the off season is eleven and a half months a year.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah. As a guy who every year at his house would put out a giant Halloween display, it's usually about. I think we had about six. Those Rubbermaid totes. We had about six of those filled and then we had a couple of things that we just had to stack up in the rafters of the garage because they were too big.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavic]

And then if you really want to permanently store them, you just wait until your ex girlfriend leaves you and takes half of it and doesn't tell you.

[Patrick Byrne]

And.

[Rudy Pavic]

And then you go out to the garage in October and go, son of a bitch.

[Adam Carolla]

She took your Count Jocula.

[Show Announcer]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Rudy Pavic]

And the. Yeah. And that giant, wavy, wacky inflatable arm guy. That was a jack skeleton version of that. She took that too.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Rudy Pavic]

Bitch totally buried her ass in the backyard.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you a favor, though.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, actually, yeah. Yeah. Because the rest of it, I moved a year later and the rest of it just went to various neighbors and relatives. But it's a lot.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, we got the video. I think we can play here. I don't get it. It's Halloween time, right? Why was she freaked out about that?

[Rudy Pavic]

Well, she doesn't know who these people are.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, okay.

[Rudy Pavic]

Also, if there's anybody outside my house.

[Adam Carolla]

Yelling this, open up the door.

[Rudy Pavic]

Aren't you just more laughing than terrified?

[Adam Carolla]

I think so, yeah. Listen, you got to have a paintball gun. Yeah, you have a paintball gun that'll separate the wheat from the chaff, you know what I mean? Because you could have Freddy Krueger out there, whoever, Jason. But two good, well placed shots with a paintball gun, if they're 14 year old boys, they're just running down the street screaming, right?

[Rudy Pavic]

As we learned, a rimfire. 22. That'll also scare them off.

[Adam Carolla]

We did some rimfire. 22. Charlie Sheen. We took a deep dive. Rudy and I did. Was staying in my place last night. Yeah, Yeah. I don't know why this has gone viral. I don't get it. But have a paintball gun nearby and no one's gonna sue you for shooting with a paint gun when they try to threaten you this way with the Freddy Krueger thing.

[Rudy Pavic]

There is a new documentary called the Perfect Neighbor. I believe it's on Netflix, about a woman and her neighbors that after months and months of going back and forth, a lot of shouting matches, screaming at the kids, neighbor took a young boy's iPad. And then the mom showed up, banged on the door, woman shot through the door, ended up killing the woman. And this is a good reason as to why I get like there should be. No, you shouldn't be terrified if you are the homeowner of this. But this is also a good reason why you shouldn't maybe show this documentary to your kids and go, don't go banging on people's doors. I get that it's supposed to be funny and it's a joke, but hey, man, this is how you can end up with one in the chest.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, we would do the opposite when I was a kid. We'd go streaking. Streaking is sort of the opposite of this in that there's no hiding behind anything.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, that's a hell of a Halloween costume.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, we would do it the summer months probably. You know, it's a little warmer, get a little better hang, you know, at night.

[Rudy Pavic]

Good blood flow.

[Adam Carolla]

But definitely do. Definitely been streaking. Streaking was a thing. Yeah, it was popular. They wrote a song about streaking.

[Rudy Pavic]

What song is that?

[Adam Carolla]

The Streak.

[Rudy Pavic]

It's called the Streak.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, they call him the Streak. Ray Stevens.

[Rudy Pavic]

Oh, sure, Ray Stevens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Ray Stevens was the greatest. He's been on the show. Cause he'd have the Streak and then he'd have Ahab. The Arab and have all these things. And then his big hit. I still love the commercial. Cause the commercial, I don't know. Find the Ray Stevens record collection commercial. Because the thing that's crazy about it is they'd go, you remember the Streak?

[Patrick Byrne]

Look at that.

[Rudy Pavic]

Look at that.

[Adam Carolla]

That slide whistle, you know? And then they'd go into. Then they'd go into. And Ahab the Arab king. It's most offensive shit. And you remember Guitar Zan. Guitar Zan in his jungle band. And then at some point, they'd go. And who could forget Everything is beautiful in its own way. Like, he had the craziest, softest. Pro America, pro religion, whatever hit along with novelty. Ahab the Arab stuff, which is show to range.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, I don't want to see the Streak. I need a commercial. I need the commercial for, like, Ray Stevens greatest hits. Yeah, something like that.

[Rudy Pavic]

There were so many of these, like, during the late 80s, early 90s, like, they had this. There was Dorf on golf. There was, like, grinding this, predated that. Yeah. This was all. You know, there was so many good, sort of like infomercials to sell.

[Adam Carolla]

But it only. It just cracked me up that Everything Is Beautiful was a number one hit by the guy who brought you Guitar Z. Yeah. We need volume, sir.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

With hits like Move down to a Haunted House. Nah, we need old Ray Stevens. This is like new. This is what the kids do all the time. They give you the 2007 version of the commercial. We need the 70s version of the Ray Stevens best of. But anyway. All right, you can. Let's see if I got it.

[Rudy Pavic]

That almost looks like a parody commercial of a Ray Stevens commercial.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, that is Ray Stevens, but, yeah, they ran best of. Yeah, maybe. Was that the streak?

[Rudy Pavic]

Is that guy still around?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah.

[Rudy Pavic]

Is he in Branson?

[Adam Carolla]

No, he's in Zurich. Yes, he's in Branson and he ain't wearing no clothes. Hold it.

[Mike Murphy]

Ray Stevens has sold millions of comedy records. Yeah. A date. Yet you've listened and laughed at him for over two decades. Now, for the first time, you can.

[Adam Carolla]

See him on home video in eight.

[Mike Murphy]

Of his greatest, funniest hits.

[Adam Carolla]

Are you naked?

[Mike Murphy]

And you get it all on one hilarious VHS videotape.

[Adam Carolla]

You should have seen the look in her eyes when that squirrel jumped her.

[Mike Murphy]

Girl garters and crossed her thighs.

[Adam Carolla]

And she jumped to her feet and said, lord have mercy on me.

[Mike Murphy]

You'll get the Mississippi Squirrel.

[Adam Carolla]

The street.

[Mike Murphy]

Sitting up with the dead surfing USSR Santa Claus is watching you.

[Adam Carolla]

He's everywhere.

[Patrick Byrne]

He's everywhere.

[Mike Murphy]

Help me make it through the night.

[Adam Carolla]

And me again. Margaret.

[Rudy Pavic]

They got me.

[Patrick Byrne]

Margaret.

[Mike Murphy]

This collection also includes one of Ray Stevens most loved songs.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, here we go. In its own way. And then right into Guitar Zan. All right, all right, all right. That's what I'm saying. A lot of range.

[Rudy Pavic]

I wonder if there was any kids back in the day that were like, you don't get it, dad. This is our music. Guitar Xan is our music.

[Adam Carolla]

Dad, they have their ab. Is our music. Arab. Yeah, it wasn't a great interview.

[Rudy Pavic]

Really? You don't say? Man. Dude, him and Dunham on the road together. That would be where it's at. You get Arab. Arab.

[Adam Carolla]

The.

[Rudy Pavic]

What is the name again?

[Patrick Byrne]

Eight. The puppet.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah. No, no, no, you get. You get Ray Stevens.

[Adam Carolla]

Ahab. The aab.

[Rudy Pavic]

The Ray. Why can't I say it? God damn it.

[Adam Carolla]

Arab.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, there we go. You get him. And then the. The Ahmed. The dead terrorists in the same room. Comedy gold. Comedy gold. Bill Gates calls for a strategic pivot in climate change fight from curbing emissions. Bill Gates thinks that climate change is a serious problem, but it won't be the end of civilization. He thinks scientific innovation will curb it. And instead, it's time for a strategic pivot in the global climate fight, from focusing on limiting rising temperatures to fighting poverty and preventing disease.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, so look, you're not going to do much in terms of getting China to stop emitting so much CO2 and India and a lot of these other growing nations, but you can have air conditioning and seawalls and stuff like that. I mean, look. Okay, here goes. Rudy, you ready?

[Rudy Pavic]

Please.

[Adam Carolla]

Poor Rudy had to swing by the job site with the caissons in it before we headed to work today. I drove Rudy into work today. We live in a place where there's earthquakes. So I don't know if you just go. Climate causes the earth to shake to such a point where buildings come down and are crumbled to the ground. Okay, so we have earthquakes. So we realized we have earthquakes, whether it's a San Andreas fault, plate tectonics. God, Ray Stevens. Whoever causes earthquakes, we cause earthquakes. But we have earthquakes. So then we build accordingly. And we can build structures that can withstand a big earthquake and nobody gets killed because we understand we have technology, we have engineering, and that's how we build. So we do that. And then there are places like Guatemala where they don't build to withstand earthquakes, and they have a bunch of unreinforced concrete, and then a 7.2 hits. Guatemala and the Whole place is level and there's kids and they're trapped. And then we can't find people. And we need cadaver sniffing dogs. That's in Guatemala. 7.2 hits here. Nothing happens. Things shake around. Fence falls over, parking structure, whatever, that's it. So we just prevent it by building a certain way. And we prevent it. Well, then there's global temperature. So it's Death Valley, it's 121 degrees. Okay, but we invented air conditioning. I mean, you live in Vegas. You can live in Vegas. You used to not be able to live in Vegas and now you can live in Vegas because you leave your air conditioned apartment, you go onto the people mover that has air conditioning and that goes you, takes you into the casino at Caesars and then, then you walk around the air conditioning there. But it's 114 degrees outside. But you're not outside, you're in air conditioning. And then you get in your car and your car has air conditioning. Now how hot is it in Vegas? Well, it's 119 degrees. How hot is it in Malibu? It's 80 degrees. I got air conditioning. You got air conditioning. We just set both of them for 71 degrees in your car. And that's what it is inside my car. Even if where I live is 50 degrees cooler than where you are, it doesn't matter. So you can build and we can use technology to counteract this stuff and almost go around it. So they didn't have good seawalls in New Orleans. It's below sea level and Army Corps of Engineers didn't build the seawalls.

[Patrick Byrne]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

And then the storm came and then it flooded and then people died. But then you can rebuild the sea walls so that the storm in the ocean doesn't get above it and then people don't die. So you're not gonna stop the sea and you're not gonna stop earthquakes and you're not gonna stop the sun and the heat. But what you can do is have air conditioning, sea walls and caissons and grade beams and reinforced concrete and shear walls.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then it's not a problem. So just do that.

[Rudy Pavic]

Just do it.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I've been saying. But they don't like that because that doesn't involve taking shit away from you. So that's their thing is what will get people in the Santa Monica area to stop driving. Internal combustion vehicles. That's not going to do anything. It's called global warming.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

China and India, as a guy who.

[Rudy Pavic]

Has lived in Minnesota Most of his life. The thing that comes back is when it gets to be January and we have those cold snaps of, you know, negative 35, and they last for 10 to 15 days, and then you go, man, pretty brutal out there. And they go, that's global warming, right? What do you mean it's global? I thought it's cold outside, but. Yeah, but that's the effect of global warming, is that it gets really hot during the summertime and then it gets. I'm like, that's exactly what it's always been. So why is. If it's global warming, would it not be warmer in the wintertime?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, here's what I would say to Gavin Newsom and the ones who were like, want to blame the fire on global warming? Okay, it's global warming's fault. But it's the earthquake's fault, too. But you build your freeway overpasses to withstand 8.5, and then it doesn't fall down and kill people. So, all right, there's global warming. I'll sign off on that. So now we gotta clear some brush, we gotta hire more firefighters. We have to get the equipment up and running. We need to fill the aqueducts, and we need to get one of those planes that Canada has that drops the fire retardant material. Because of global warming, right?

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Your thing is global warming. And no water in the aqueducts. That seems like it's gonna be. That seems like the Palisades may burn to the ground. That's just me.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavic]

It seems like as time has gone on, we've figured out ways to outsmart nature. You know, between dams and windmills. We figured it out.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, air conditioning means you can work and live in places that were not hospitable to human beings year round. Yeah, we can do that.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah. Half of our lives, we've never left 72, but our children have never left 72 degrees.

[Adam Carolla]

Plus, you and I were on a job site that was on the ocean today. The houses that were built along that ocean are from the 40s, many of them. Where's the rising sea again? PCH and I'll point this out because we're. But they'll know it. We're looking at these caissons, these cement poles that are buried in the ground. The ones that were by the highway. Pch where we were standing, I had to point out to you. I go, it's in the ground. You can't see it, but there it is, just barely sticking up out of the ground. The ones that were 30ft 40ft close to the ocean were up out of the water about 5ft because that's level. Meaning where the highway is PCH to where the ocean comes in on high tide is only about a five foot difference in height.

[Mike Murphy]

Sure.

[Adam Carolla]

No water's ever been on pch. Yeah, water's never been on pch. It's only five feet. It's over the course of. Well, they were building houses there, but I don't know, PCH was built there in the teens or the turn of the century. So where is this? Where's the rising sea is what I'm asking.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, Yeah. I see multiple videos of icebergs that are melting, but my ankles are still dry.

[Adam Carolla]

Those lots wouldn't go for 6 million bucks.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And the first after you're done spending the six million, the first two and a half gotta go into the foundation. So you're at eight, five. Before the first load of two by fours gets dropped off to build your new house, you're at eight fucking five. It wouldn't go for that if the seas were gonna engulf your home. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah. Well, good on Bill. George Clooney reportedly claims that Virginia Giuffre's posthumous memoir claims that he was with. I can't believe that I'm reading this. Ghislaine Maxwell one time claimed that she performed oral sex on him.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, you're good looking when chicks are lying saying they blew you. Cause I got a lot of chicks who blew me. They're like, who? I don't think so. I have a little something called dignity. Okay. No.

[Rudy Pavic]

What is that, a bunch of gray pubes on? No, no. Definitely not Adam. Carolla's gray.

[Adam Carolla]

Not as gray. No. I have chicks lying about blowing me.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

This is the other direction.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah. So this came out in her memoir where Clooney's people came out immediately and said that this story is absolutely biased.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's what I wanna say about denial of blowjobs and Clooney and why I tend to believe her. I don't know a lot of guys who turn down a blowjob. You know what I mean?

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So blowjob is sort of like saying, you know, well, I played catch with Peyton Manning. It's like, what happened? Well, the ball went in my yard and then I saw him stand in his yard, so I just picked it up and throw it back to him. You know, like most guys don't go now.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that instinctively like, you're walk, you're in the park. And the basketball goes rolling. You just pick it up and throw it, right? Like it's a guy instinct. It's kind of like.

[Rudy Pavic]

Little help.

[Adam Carolla]

Car's backing up. Gonna hit some trash cans. You do, man. Hands go up. Come on, come on. You got, you got. You don't know the guy. You stop walking your dog and start waving the guy.

[Patrick Byrne]

There's a pic.

[Adam Carolla]

There's an Amazon truck backing out of a driveway. You're all hands.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You don't know the guy. That's a dude thing.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, Peyton Manning's got his mouth wide open your back. Neat, neat, neat.

[Adam Carolla]

So she's a good looking woman and she's like, want a blow job? Most guys are like, yeah, all right.

[Patrick Byrne]

Why not?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, why not?

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So I don't. I wouldn't. I don't fault a guy. And by the way, the history of the woman doesn't really factor in, like, what she up to, how she vote.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

What are her politics? Is she running underage chicks? It's like, hey, blowjob right now. Windows closing. There we go.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, I would love to see any of these dudes who, you know, walk around in dresses with blue hair, you know, who still have a dick swinging between their legs. And a gal shows up with a mega hat and she's like, hey, little B.J.

[Adam Carolla]

Blowjob.

[Rudy Pavic]

What's he gonna say? No, of course, Al.

[Adam Carolla]

Of course he's gonna take it under the tent.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah. Yep. Passenger left behind food stock.

[Adam Carolla]

So he's saying he didn't get the blowjob.

[Rudy Pavic]

He's saying that they have absolutely no connection whatsoever. That they've never met.

[Adam Carolla]

My answer would just be, look, I get a lot of blowjobs, so.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, a lot. A lot. In fact, I mean, four on the way here today.

[Adam Carolla]

If I were him, I'd just be. I get a lot of blowjobs. I can't keep track.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So possibly.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah. Even when I'm not driving, I'm still getting one.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, where did she say she had to say she was? At a party. The whole thing about the blowjob or about this story.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean?

[Rudy Pavic]

What's funny is that they don't get into exactly where that this happened. She did say, let's see. You know what? Really, it only talks about the fact that.

[Adam Carolla]

See, here's where I believe it. If she goes, look, Neil Sedaka's a close personal friend and he was showing a party. And I went to a party. It was in Beverly Hills. And next thing I know, George Clooney's in there. He's a friend of Neil Sedaka. And then we start drinking, and I end up in the bathroom, and I give a blowjob like that to me. Might have something other than this. Sort of. I met him once.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, specifics, that's what you need.

[Adam Carolla]

But also, when bad people give you a blowjob, I don't feel like that diminishes your worth. Okay, so let's say if I said this, you know, my grandpa, they got a blowjob from Eva Braun. I wouldn't go, he's a Nazi. I'd go, good for him. Hope he dropped a load right in her forehead. Yeah, that one's for America. Yeah. Like in glass. Right? Like, I would go, good for him.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's not a.

[Patrick Byrne]

Sure.

[Adam Carolla]

An endear. It's like an endearment thing that's like, you're in charge. Fuck her.

[Rudy Pavic]

Well, I think to dudes behind closed doors, you don't lose any credibility. But I think if other women find.

[Adam Carolla]

Out that other women.

[Rudy Pavic]

From a certain somebody.

[Adam Carolla]

So, like, I should stop telling everyone, march Schott gave me a blowjob?

[Rudy Pavic]

Well, no, actually, you gain points. A lot of points with that. Yeah, a lot of points. Yeah. Yeah. Now, if it was Jerry Jones, on the other hand, another sports owner, then.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, obviously, I don't swing that way.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, of course.

[Adam Carolla]

See?

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah, it brings you down.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I got a clip that Dr. Drew loved, and I wasn't planning on playing it, but for some reason, I'm in the mood.

[Rudy Pavic]

Oh, I heard you guys cackling earlier today.

[Adam Carolla]

Drew, it's just, I said I want to play. I had this notion about Gavin Newsom's all in the news, and he's always in the news now. And I realized my conversation with Gavin Newsom was insane. I had an insane conversation with him, but I realized it's me and my voice and Gavin and his voice. And so people are kind of like, well, you're arguing with Gavin and Gavin's arguing with you. And so who knows? Let him talk, you know, whatever. And I'll just play the first 30 seconds. So you know what it is? Family members, money put away, don't have the kids.

[Patrick Byrne]

Half of African Americans in the state of California, roughly half of Latino families, have no access to a checking account or an atm. Things we take for granted. They don't have a check.

[Adam Carolla]

What's wrong with them?

[Patrick Byrne]

Well, because they don't have the resources to sock those things away.

[Adam Carolla]

Why do we have them? All right, Everyone's Heard this. And it's always like Adam saying this and Newsom saying that. But I thought if you read this like a transcript, then you would think Newsom was insane. Right now it's my voice and his voice and they're familiar and you're picking a side or what have you. But I said, I need a transcript of this and have actors read it. And he probably should have let me set up, but that's all right. So I was working in the other room. I was over here with Joey, and I said, joey, can you do some sort of AI thing where it's like you just get a transcript of this argument I had with Newsom and then we'll have AI or actors or somebody read it and that way we can hear it more clearly. And he said, well, there's no real AI actor voice. The only one there is is Burt Reynolds.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So I said, all right, well make Burt Reynolds, Gavin Newsom in this scenario, and then make me a chick. I want to be like a sensible NPR chick. So Adam Carolla is going to ask the exact. It's verbatim. It's a transcript of our dialogue. But my voice has now been taken over by an NPR sensible chick. And Gavin Newsom's voice has been taken over by Burt Reynolds. And here's what that sounds like.

[I]

Half of African Americans in the state of California, roughly half of Latino families, have no access to a checking account or an atm. Things we take for granted. They don't have a checking account.

[Mike Murphy]

What's wrong with them?

[I]

Well, because they don't have the resources to sock those things away.

[Mike Murphy]

Why do we have them?

[I]

A lot of different reasons, but roughly half those families don't.

[Mike Murphy]

Why do Armenians have them, but where.

[I]

They end up is a check cashing place.

[Mike Murphy]

But I want to know why those groups. Why do those two groups not have access?

[I]

Just happens to be that we can talk about.

[Mike Murphy]

Are they flawed?

[I]

No, they're hardly flawed, but they're struggling.

[Mike Murphy]

Genetically flawed?

[I]

Hardly. Absolutely not.

[Mike Murphy]

Do Asians have this problem?

[I]

I mean, a lot of communities have problems. A lot of whites have these problems.

[Adam Carolla]

Pause it for a second. So you will realize that Burt Reynolds sounds insane.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

In this conversation. Now, Gavin Newsom doesn't because he's arguing with me and people don't like me. But when he's arguing with the sensible NPR chick, he now sounds. Now Burt Reynolds sounds nuts. Right. So. And listen, I love it when he just goes. It just is, you know, like, why are they at the check? Ask. That's how it is. Like, oh, thank you, problem solver. That's why we need more, like, guys like you in charge who can just bring up a problem and then go. It just is. It just is. All right, sorry. We'll continue.

[I]

A lot of communities have problems. A lot of whites have these problems.

[Mike Murphy]

So it's not just black and Hispanic?

[I]

No, but it.

[Mike Murphy]

Well, why did you bring up black and Hispanic?

[I]

Because the magnitude is ominous.

[Mike Murphy]

But why so many of them?

[I]

It just happens to be just the magnitude.

[Mike Murphy]

That's the way God planned it.

[I]

Not at all.

[Mike Murphy]

Well. What happened to them?

[I]

There are a lot of issues and communities are struggling.

[Mike Murphy]

Why are they struggling?

[I]

A lot of different reasons.

[Mike Murphy]

Hispanics have been here. Blacks have been here longer than we have been here.

[I]

Well, we can. We can surmise.

[Mike Murphy]

What about Asians? They were put in internment camps.

[I]

Yeah, we. In fact, it all initiated out of San Francisco. The Chinese Exclusion act came out of progressive San Francisco.

[Mike Murphy]

So are they at the check cashing places?

[I]

A lot of Asians certainly do.

[Mike Murphy]

Oh, so why don't you include them?

[I]

Because then the only reason why is the magnitude of the problem.

[Mike Murphy]

But there's no way to figure out how that happened.

[I]

We could talk about, you know, what I'm dealing with. I don't want to have a sociological debate.

[Patrick Byrne]

Sure.

[Mike Murphy]

Why would you. Why would you want to do that? Because the person from the Times wouldn't write good things about you if you did that.

[I]

No, that's not the case. Because I want to deal with reality.

[Mike Murphy]

You want to deal with reality? I can tell you what reality is.

[I]

People are struggling. People are suffering. I want to deal with the problems in a pragmatic way.

[Mike Murphy]

Why are they struggling and why are they suffering?

[I]

We can hold hands and surmise about all these other reasons.

[Mike Murphy]

I don't want to do that. I want to know why they're struggling. Why are they struggling?

[I]

A lot of folks are struggling because they can't find jobs.

[Mike Murphy]

Why?

[I]

Blacks and Hispanics, across the board, all socioeconomics.

[Mike Murphy]

So everybody is struggling.

[I]

Everybody is struggling.

[Mike Murphy]

So Asians are suffering just as much as blacks.

[I]

The face of welfare is not an African American family.

[Mike Murphy]

Oh, so it's Asian, Jewish. It's all of them Caucasian. Okay. We're all struggling.

[I]

A lot of folks are struggling.

[Mike Murphy]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. Now he seems like an insane person, right?

[Rudy Pavic]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

See, if I played me arguing with Gavin Newsom to my mom, she'd go, well, let him finish. You're not letting him talk. He cares about. But if I played her Burt Reynolds and the NPR chick, she'd go, that Burt Reynolds I never liked him. Yeah, he's a nut, right?

[Rudy Pavic]

Man, this might be the only time I would ever say this, but I'm glad Burt Reynolds is not around to have flipped the tides and just started talking like an insane person, because everybody I love is going nuts. Like Robert De Niro's not getting that.

[Adam Carolla]

Angel, what's happening to you people? Oh, man. Gator would have never gone nuts on us. But Burt Reynolds sounds insane. Cause he brought up a problem and then he has no solutions to it.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavic]

Oh, my God. Can we get a AI version of Margot Robbie and Marge shot arguing over who wants to blow you less?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah, I would listen to that. Throw Burt Reynolds in.

[Rudy Pavic]

Throw him in there too. Why not?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I gotta say this. I now am captivated. And I'm gonna lend Burt Reynolds voice to all Gavin Newsom clips.

[Rudy Pavic]

Ah, that's great.

[Adam Carolla]

And then I will take my NPR chick and replace my nasally drone because it sounds so much more sensible when she does it.

[Rudy Pavic]

Where else they gonna go? I don't have a good Burt Reynolds, but I'm just saying that'd be great if you just add that into that conversation.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, play the first 45 seconds one more time just. Cause it makes me laugh. And for some reason, the picture. Apparently you can go to amcrol.com and see it, but.

[I]

Half of African Americans in the state of California, roughly half of Latino families, have no access to a checking account or an atm. Things we take for granted. They don't have a checking account.

[Mike Murphy]

What's wrong with them?

[I]

Well, because they don't have the resources to sock those things away.

[Mike Murphy]

Why do we have them?

[I]

A lot of different reasons, but roughly half those families don't.

[Mike Murphy]

Why do Armenians have them, but where.

[I]

They end up is a check cashing place.

[Mike Murphy]

But I want to know why those groups. Why do those two groups not have access?

[I]

Just happens to be that we can talk about.

[Mike Murphy]

Are they flawed?

[I]

No, they're hardly flawed, but they're struggling.

[Mike Murphy]

Genetically flawed?

[I]

Hardly. Absolutely not.

[Mike Murphy]

Do Asians have this problem?

[I]

I mean, a lot of communities have problems. A lot of whites have these problems.

[Adam Carolla]

So it's so everyone's got. Everyone's got problems, Man.

[Rudy Pavic]

Could you imagine if he's on the CB with Snowman giving this conversation and he's like, dude, I. I just wanted to get some Coors from Texarkana. Bring it back. Shut your mouth.

[Adam Carolla]

Little Enos is giving me the third degree I'm now in love with. Now, listen, I said I wanted a celebrity to be his voice and celebrity to be My voice. And Joey went, the only AI voice available on the computer is Burt Reynolds. And I was like, not my first choice. But now I'm in love.

[Rudy Pavic]

In love with it.

[Adam Carolla]

With Burt Reynolds as Gavin Newsom.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah. The lack of options is what really drew your heart to it. I love that. Yeah, that's funny.

[Adam Carolla]

And now it's a familiarity thing.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So you know that 70s show wasn't supposed to be called that 70s show. They just called it that. It was like a working title. And then after six months of development, they're like, we're just gonna call it that seventies Show.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Rudy Pavic]

God's got a great way of working things out. And I feel like his power was with Burt Reynolds. With Burt Reynolds.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I just want a generic nice chick who sounded logical. So Bert would sound nuts.

[Rudy Pavic]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

Mike Murphy is in studio. Mike's got a podcast, Hacks on Tap, co hosted by David Axelrod. Probably heard of that name. And Mike, I don't know what we call you. A consultant pundit. What would be your title?

[Mike Murphy]

Chronically unemployed. I was a political consultant for a long time, but I do a little punditry too.

[Adam Carolla]

Famously with the Schwarzenegger's campaign. Right.

[Mike Murphy]

John McCain, 2000 McCain as well.

[Adam Carolla]

Jeb Bush. Lots of big names on your resume. And then also more recently, Rick Caruso.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, Rick's an old friend and he's. It's the old Corleone thing. They pull me back in and so I'm helping them figure out what to do.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, we're doing a town hall with Rick coming up soon. And Rick's an interesting guy. Spent some time with him. Hung out on his yacht a little bit when we were at Pebble Beach. That was always nice. And I like Rick cause I like a builder.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I like builders because I realized a commercial builder is sort of the opposite of a full time politician, which is sort of theories, lots of theories and lots of conversations, but no real rubber meeting the road. And I like him because he gets stuff done. But I have heard complaints about, oh, he's too soft on this and too soft on that. And I'm like, well, he's in LA and he's in California. He's trying to get along, you know. Is that a sort of reasonable explanation?

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, I think you got it. I mean, builders are interesting because they're half ruthless pragmatist because you don't get the project built. There is no project.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Mike Murphy]

And they're kind of artists too. They see an empty lot, I see an empty lot, maybe a big rat. They see something great if they're builders. So Rick knows it's California and he's kind of, I'd call him a raging centerist. I mean, in his life he's been a Republican, but kind of an old school Reagan opportunity Republican. He never really liked Trump.

[Patrick Byrne]

Trump.

[Mike Murphy]

And now he's something we haven't seen in California for a while, a Tory Democrat, a more centerist Democrat, which I think has a lot of appeal right now, but we'll find out. But you know, I tell you, I'm a conservative, not a Republican anymore. I worked there 40 years and I'm to the Trump just. I think everything's wrong about him. Rick is. He's going to disappoint the people who say, oh, now we've got our magic ticket to pretend this is Utah. You know, it's not politics. You don't get 51%, you're irrelevant. So he's trying to get the biggest group he can to get stuff done.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you think in California with the fires, we kind of hit our bottom? And when I say bottom, at least a threshold for change? Because I've been here my whole life and people been sort of complaining out loud like, when are we gonna make some kind of changes, start go a little different direction here? And everyone's. The popular answer is we haven't bottomed out yet. But I said, you know, maybe the fires were sort of a bottoming out moment.

[Mike Murphy]

Well, it was kind of a test of government. The government failed. You know, the leadership. You know, the mayor was in Africa for kind of a ceremonial appearance when the fires were. No surprise. You didn't have to be Kreskin to know that.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I'll put to you this way. Rick Caruso, who I interviewed, said he had his private firefighting crew here days earlier before the fire, putting retardant material on the roofs of his buildings in anticipation of 80 mile an hour winds and fire. So the problem, Karen Bass was worried about the winds hitting because it would affect her flight to Ghana and she went to turbulence on the climb out from lax. That was her concern about the wind. Right, right.

[Mike Murphy]

And then she flew US Government Air. We're still trying to figure out how much in the air Force jet all the way to Kenya and back for the.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Mike Murphy]

Oh, yeah, no, she was not on a commercial flight.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, she was not.

[Mike Murphy]

Oh, no, no, no. That was 1, 800 taxpayer.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Mike Murphy]

Oh, yeah. Great airline. You know, you get the whole plane to yourself.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Rick has a saying. If it's predictable, it's preventable, or at least you can take the edge off it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Mike Murphy]

And that's what he was doing. It wasn't what she was doing. So, you know, people, we do some focus groups and all that, kind of trying to look at the electorate here and they want competence, they want to see stuff work. They're not that ideological. You know, they're like, just pick up the trash, have fire trucks that aren't in a boneyard because you don't have a fan belt. You know, I mean, it's time for results.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, no, I agree. And I think the problem with Los Angeles and California being here my whole life is it sort of runs itself to a degree that it just sort of runs and it just sort of. That's it. And people just sort of got along and it just sort of ran and it didn't really much matter who was in charge. It was just. Sun was shining, go down to the beach and it was cool. And then stuff like fires and homelessness and crime starts showing up and now people start looking around going, who's in charge? Whereas they never really did that in the past. We didn't care who Richard Reardon or Sam Yordy. We didn't care who was.

[Mike Murphy]

That's a poll.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's a deep poll, but I mean, we had like the first black mayor in this city in the 70s for years and years and years, and we didn't even congratulate ourselves. We didn't even care.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, we were happy with a good mayor, a young Rick Caruso working for him, by the way.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Mike Murphy]

He started with Bradley. He's worked for three mayors.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So the notion that we're now sort of caught up in the first, you know, female or black or black female or. The first. The first. The first that LA had a black mare in the early 70s. And I mean, we're talking about 50 plus years ago, this place was run by a black man and nobody cared and nobody said anything.

[Mike Murphy]

He was very popular. I mean, he broke the glass ceiling. He had a hell of a story.

[Adam Carolla]

But it wasn't even a lot. There wasn't even. I mean, I was young, but I don't remember a lot of race talk.

[Mike Murphy]

It was just maybe seen just through that prism, like today with identity. We kind of.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, right. He was just a good guy. Ran track at ucla.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah. He was a cop. You know, he had a good resume and he was a good mayor. I think you were onto something before we kind of get into the sleepwalking thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Mike Murphy]

And when there's a real crisis, boy, we could really use competence. When we look around and we don't have it, then voters, you know, they. They like changes. I mean, I was just in the focus group full of Democrats, Kamala, voters who were like, we don't dislike Karen, but we've had the experience. Now we're looking for something new because stuff isn't working.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Mike Murphy]

And so I think that's what the mayor's race will be about. And if Rick runs for mayor, he'll have a strong case to make.

[Adam Carolla]

Is he going to run for mayor? Is he going to run for governor?

[Mike Murphy]

You know, he's joking that he needs to decide so he can get some sleep. And he's been traveling the state, so he gets out to the Central Valley and the AG people who have a lot of concerns because we're the massive agriculture state. They're like, you gotta run for governor. It's dysfunctional. You go up to Silicon Valley and like, we're the golden goose up here and we need help. Why is the government something. It's like bad software, you know, from their point of view, it's outmoded, doesn't work. And here in la, he walks into a restaurant and people come up and demand. So it's a flattering thing, but it's got to come to an end. And so being a careful guy, results oriented, he's been listening to people and trying to figure out where he could do the most good.

[Adam Carolla]

When would he have to declare Major?

[Mike Murphy]

You know, I have been avoiding that question like a good politician for a.

[Adam Carolla]

While, but I could ask him together when we see him.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Murphy]

You got him cornered there. I think we're not going to get too deep into the holiday season before knowing which job he's, you know, he'll narrow it down to one and then I think.

[Adam Carolla]

So to turn back to where we were before. At least this is what LA always felt like to me in California. But LA more sort of specifically, which is in the past. If you said to my mom, who's kind of very progressive, was lifelong Democrat, and all that kind of stuff, you said like, look, who would you rather run Los Angeles? This Rick Caruso guy. She's got a yacht, she's a millionaire, does a lot of developer. We got this nice woman of color. She would probably not say out loud, but she would probably think to herself, it doesn't really matter either way because who cares? This place just sort of moves along. So why not get the woman of color in there? Because I would feel better about voting for her. And it seems like we're more progressive and that feels like progress to me. And the other guy's got an expensive blazer on. He has a yacht. Come on, he's a rich guy. That's not my thing. So let's get this. And as long as it's all ceremonial and you can go to Ghana and dance and there is no fire, well, then my mom's right. But when the homeless and the crime and the fire start showing up, then people go, maybe we should get the competent guy in there. Yeah, exactly.

[Mike Murphy]

It's no longer hypothetical. I have Murphy's rule of politics, which is voters. And this happens a lot at the presidential level. Voters like to vote for what they think they did. Not get the last time. And if you look at the press, you got George H.W. bush, classy guy. World affairs can't work a supermarket scanner. He doesn't understand us. So we go to the trailer park and get Clinton, who really understands us, maybe a little too well. We go back to the Bush family, get the classy guy. Then we're hearing about strategery and all that. So maybe we need a genius. We'll go get the law professor or Obama. And then red lines. Nobody pays attention to little too weak. Or get the guy who fired Gilbert Gottfried on the Apprentice, the tough guy. So it's always rotating fired me too.

[Adam Carolla]

But maybe thought I was Gilbert Gottfried.

[Mike Murphy]

It should have left 100 under the table there. So my point is they're looking for something different now.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's good. And it's sad that it takes so long to sort of want something different, if something different means competent. But somebody. We googled the response to the question, how expensive was Karen Bass flight from Ghana to California? And it gives different. I don't know if they're sort of covering for her or not.

[Mike Murphy]

It's tricky because it's Air Force, so Freedom of Information Act. But let's put it this way, Uncle Sam was forking at least 35, 40 grand each way, not counting, you know, crew and all that. And the thing had to do in 180, you know, it got there just long enough to. Yeah, what the hell, we're coming back. So she didn't fly from here. She flew commercial to Andrews or to D.C. and then Andrew, Africa. And back was U.S. air Force Air.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that's interesting.

[Mike Murphy]

Gulf Stream.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Golf stream.

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah. You know, probably one or two generations behind Roughing it.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. Yeah, but what about climate change? Isn't she worried about climate change?

[Mike Murphy]

That's another question.

[Adam Carolla]

Is she gonna end up with Eric Garcetti and Villaragosa just in the dust bin of whatever? Like, is that what we do with our mayors? It's a bizarre thing to know that you can be the mayor of Los Angeles and be so sort of hapless that you end up doing nothing once you retired from this job. But. But none of these people seem to go on to anything, which meant there's nothing going on in the first place.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, she'll land in nonprofit world or somewhere. I mean, look, I'm not her biggest fan because I live in Los Angeles, but when she was speaker, I worked for Schwarzenegger, ran his first campaign, and I Was around when she was House speaker, which is about getting eight people to agree she wasn't too bad. It's managing a big, complicated machine that she doesn't have the skill set. And we've now been to that academy now for years.

[Adam Carolla]

And so when is she up? And then what's the timeline?

[Mike Murphy]

So the big show here is the June primary next year. And in the governor race, everybody's on one ballot, and everybody votes. It's about 65% Democrat, 35% Republican who shows up in June. And the top two, regardless of party, go on to November. Here you're gonna have mayor Oral. Yeah, Mayor Oro, everybody. It's a nonpartisan ballot. You know, I'm an RD after your name. June, top two, November. And so similar.

[Adam Carolla]

Is she gonna run for a second term?

[Mike Murphy]

You know, the Tom Toms in the political gossip world think she is. And she's. But not announced yet. You know, she's not done the official thing, but the betting is. And, you know, we hear she's gearing up.

[Adam Carolla]

Maybe I'm naive, but I can never figure out exactly what they want. Like, I know what Rick Caruso wants. Cause I want what he wants. He drives around, he seems garbage everywhere and graffiti everywhere, and it drives him nuts.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, it drives ways.

[Mike Murphy]

Will you ever be to the Grove? You can get a stopwatch and, like, drop a handkerchief and stand there. Rick's got his telescope up in the.

[Adam Carolla]

Top before it hits the ground.

[Bill Maher]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Murphy]

It's Disney World. You know the outfit. Yeah. So that I think it's kind of like a Bond movie when you're a script writer. The master villain thinks they're doing good. She thinks she's not a villain. She thinks she's doing good. And so she thinks it's important we have more of what she's doing. And, you know, it's gonna be up to the voters to decide if they want to change.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, I know maybe I'm naive. Like I said, I drive around, I see garbage and graffiti everywhere, and I just go, this driving me nuts. I want this cleaned up. I want. This is Los Angeles. It shouldn't look this way. And I know Rick's that way. And then I think, all right. I get like, I know what he wants. I don't know what she wants. And I'm not even sure why I felt that way with Kamala. Like, I don't really know. I'm not exactly sure what she wants. I mean, she wants to be in power, but beyond that, I don't know what she Wants to use that for.

[Mike Murphy]

Well, I think she would say, and she probably internalizes it, that I'm running to take care of the little people.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, Karen Bass and Kamala. We just still.

[Mike Murphy]

I think Kamala goes, I'm here to stop Trump from.

[Adam Carolla]

She wants to be a voice for the voiceless.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, well, not let the billionaires. You're going to hear all this campaign. Billionaires run wild.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, right, right.

[Mike Murphy]

And we're doing a great job. We just don't. I guarantee you, her campaign meetings are. We got to get the meeting out. What a great job we're doing. We're spending $900,000 for each homeless person we house.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Mike Murphy]

And, you know, she's got a pamphlet, probably has a little different math. We got to get the word out. Well, the problem is the word is out.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Mike Murphy]

And they don't dislike her. They think she means well. But they've had the experiment. Now they've lived with it. So most powerful word in both politics and advertising is new.

[Adam Carolla]

New.

[Mike Murphy]

So they're looking for something new.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I agree. And I would just like to conduct an experiment where we got someone who was competent to run the city for 10 minutes just to see if. See what it's like, because it's been, you know, Garcetti's an idiot, and Viragosa's an idiot, and he failed the bar five times and then quit. And like these are.

[Mike Murphy]

He's running for governor now.

[Adam Carolla]

He's a sociopath, but he's mostly dumb. But he's also. His name is Tony Villar. It's not Antonio Villaragoza. His name's Tony Villar. He changed his name. So he's like a sociopath.

[Mike Murphy]

Well, it's a Geraldo Rivera, Jim Rivers thing, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't trust anyone in this.

[Mike Murphy]

He's going nowhere in the governor's race, the people are kind of spent on him.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And then Newsom's gonna run for president, I'm assuming, because everything he's. Here's what Newsom is doing. Newsom. It's like you're living with your wife, you're planning on getting divorced, and you're selling the house. And then every weekend you go, huh? I'm gonna go out and paint the fascia. And the next day, you go, I'm going to go out and resod the lawn. And they go, you never do anything around here. What do you. What, you plan on selling the house? No, no, no, no, no. I just want to get that fascia taken care of.

[Mike Murphy]

Need Some paint.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And I'm gonna put a little sod down. The next thing, it's like, I've been with you for 20 years. You've never left the house. You drink beer on weekends. You don't fix up. No, not selling. Just gonna go ahead and put a fresh coat of paint on that side again. And it's like all he has been doing is running for president and saying he's not running for president, but that's all he's been doing.

[Mike Murphy]

Well, he kind of looked to the curtain this week. He admitted that maybe he does. He can name the top hundred towns in New Hampshire now by memory, right?

[I]

Yeah.

[Mike Murphy]

I mean, I met with him not long ago and you know, he's a charming enough guy and we agree on some electric vehicle stuff. But yeah, let's put it this way. He made a big bet, this Prop 50 thing, and it's highly likely to pass. And that'll give him a little star power in the Democratic Party. So he's not only running, he. If you had to make a list of the three most likely this early stage where things can change, he'd be on it. So he's got. Now, it's funny, in California's numbers aren't great. His job approval is like 51 positive, 48 negative.

[Adam Carolla]

Really positive though.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, it's a tie. 50, 50, really. But you get out to the east coast and the south where all the primaries are going to be. He's new and interesting. They've not seen him before. So he is a real contender. He'll be the guy.

[Adam Carolla]

So I was led to believe that when you go to those places that you just discussed, they're like, don't bring your California shit. Here we are, a cautionary tale to the rest of the nation. You want to end up like California?

[Patrick Byrne]

Yeah.

[Mike Murphy]

In write a center world. That's true in left to center world. Often what happens first in America happens in California. And he makes a good first impression. That's why he's governor. And in South Carolina, probably the most important early state, he's been packing them in. Remember, these are Democrat primary base voters.

[Adam Carolla]

Where do you come down? I watch these guys. I watch Newsom talk about his early days, rough and tumble, hardscrabble upbringing, you know, drinking gin and juice out on the porch with his 64. And I hear about. And then he gets mercilessly skewed after that. Like they make fun of him because of getty oil and rich parents and had his first winery at 25 and stuff. And then I Hear Kamala Harris talking about working at McDonald's, and then turns out she didn't work at McDonald's, and she gets made fun of. And then Mandami, most recently somebody, his aunt and hijab and the subway, and then they go after them, and there's sort of countless stories of these people talking about their hardscrabble upbringing, and then they find a picture of them on top of the Eiffel tower when they're 14 with their mom and their dad. People go, you went to boarding school in Zurich. Should they just shut up about that stuff? Because the Internet's undefeated is what I'm saying. And it just comes out ten minutes later, and they get all get mocked.

[Mike Murphy]

Right. You know, my advice to all of them now is the best rocket fuel is authenticity.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Mike Murphy]

The bullshit meter is so sharp on people now. I mean, you know, everybody, including me, beat up on Trump. But when Trump says, you know, I want to round up all the Chinamen, maybe he's crazy, but, you know, he's being honest. That's what he really thinks, and that is part of his power. So, yeah, I would. Candidates tend to have a chip on their shoulder about, people are going to hate me because I'm privileged, so I got to find some hook and talk about. No, no, people get it. Just be honest with them. I've always tell people in debate, it's okay to say, I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And it's also, you don't have to.

[Mike Murphy]

BS your way through an answer you don't have.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, and there's also a kind of a nuanced version of it where you go, yeah, we had more than most. I was lucky that way. You know, my dad worked hard, but, you know, he still made sure we had our chores, and I had to pay for my way. And I had a job. You know, I raked the leaves.

[Mike Murphy]

I'm over build the values of work.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Mike Murphy]

You know, we had the great line on this. Teddy Kennedy was born to wealth, but hero the working class. And they cornered him on it. And Kennedy finally said, listen, it's not where you come from, it's who you stand for. And that is a good way to get it off you, because a lot of these guys have a story of being lucky in life.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And you can say, look, there are a lot of guys born of wealth that OD by the time they're 25.

[Mike Murphy]

You know, collect purple Ferraris and turn into assholes. Yeah. It goes either way.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. But I would. There's a kind of an interesting Phenomenon, which is the Internet is so fast and so thorough now that whatever it is, you think, it's almost like when cops interrogate you and you sit down, they go, listen, just man to man. Like, you can tell.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, I'm your friend.

[Adam Carolla]

Come on. Listen, I've had problems with my old lady, too, so I can't.

[Mike Murphy]

I've always wanted to kill her.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. There's times when I felt, so where's the knife? Then they go, you know what, man? I think you can understand. It's being filmed on the side. It's being filmed. They know it, they're gonna use it. Get a lawyer and don't say anything. I think they feel like they're in some environment and they feel like it's a deposition.

[Mike Murphy]

You know, it goes back to Romney's dad, governor of Michigan, who came back from Vietnam and told the local talk show guy there. Yeah. All he did was give us good news, like being brainwashed. Boom. And the politics end. That was the end, really. Yeah, you can say it now. You can say almost anything. Because, people, we don't have that set of rules anymore. So be authentic.

[Adam Carolla]

What's your take?

[Mike Murphy]

Well, he's gonna win.

[Adam Carolla]

He's gonna win.

[Mike Murphy]

Now, he would be having a bit of a. First of all, the affordability thing is real there. You know, New York's very expensive, and he got all these young professional kids making good money, but they got big college debt and they're pissed off and apartments of fortune and all that. So he tapped into that. Cause he has a good. What we in this racket call political ant. The guy's good on his feet. The other problem is the alternatives were both hated. You know, people hated Adam, screw up mayor, get rid of them, corrupt. And they hated Cuomo as, like, a sex pest. And, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

So there were two sex pests.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, that's a phrase that I stole today. We had it on the pot.

[Adam Carolla]

That's good.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah. I thought he came up with one there. So the alternatives were horrible. If there'd been an attractive alternative, it might have been more of a race, but he's going to win. I think he'll win in the mid to maybe slightly less than mid-50s. And then he's got to do all this, you know, seize the means of production stuff he's promising now. He may do the world's greatest pivot. You know, now that I was mayor, I took a week off, I read an economics textbook, and maybe I'm not going to take over the grocery stores and turn the buses into Homeless shelters. But we will see a lot of time. The guys who are for this stuff mean it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And I wish it would work. It can't work is kind of the problem because it goes against human nature. And that's the problem with all this stuff. It would work if humans weren't wired the way they were wired, but it can't work. So then the question is, when it doesn't work, do we learn something from that or do we just.

[Mike Murphy]

You would think.

[Adam Carolla]

You would think, right?

[Mike Murphy]

But we're not real learners. I mean, we learn for a while. So if he has a bumpy time, he'll go from darling of the left of the Democratic Party to whatever you do, don't let him campaign for me in the midterms would be my guess.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Mike Murphy]

The other big star will probably be Spamberger. Woman running ex CIA officer in Virginia for governor is probably gonna win. And it was a much more modern, moderate Democrat. So the media fight will be. Which is the story of the party now? The hard left guy or the more moderate one?

[Adam Carolla]

Where's. Oh, God, AOC land in all this?

[Mike Murphy]

I think she's gonna run for president.

[Adam Carolla]

It seems like she's gearing up for that.

[Mike Murphy]

And she's a political athlete, too. And there's that Bernie vote out there, but I don't think she'll get nominated, but she'll be a factor. And then you got J.D. pritzker, who's kind of running the crusher. Lakowski. Get in the ring, Trump. I'll rip your ears off and he'll sell a few tickets. But I think you always got to think about the future in campaigns, not what we're. Is the old Gretzky skate to where the puck will be if Trump loses the midterms in the House and the guy whose brand is Superman gets a defeat, I think he'll look weaker and older in 27, which is when the presidential thing really starts, because all the primaries are at the beginning of 28. And I think it'll be the Democrat who has the best. We're going this way. Change future. Not the best. Trump Basher will have the advantage. And it's an open question who that'll be. But they're all gonna run because they're gonna sense the nomination is worth something. So you have Shapiro, all those governors.

[Adam Carolla]

Does Kamala Harris go again?

[Mike Murphy]

She's hinting she will. I don't think it'll end well for her. She has that kind of vibe of. We tried it to her. I think they're gonna Want something shiny and new. And of course, Gavin will be the Warner Brothers cartoon with the saw going in the circle because he doesn't need two Californians.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Mike Murphy]

That'll be a fight.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, Kamala Harris does not seem like the person we want in the new world order of sort of. We're done with the four camera sitcom. We want the reality stuff. We want the YouTube stuff. We want. We want the podcast, not the shiny late night show.

[Mike Murphy]

We've seen her movie.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Mike Murphy]

And if this is about changing the channel away from Trump to something new, in a lot of ways, hard for her to fill that slot.

[Adam Carolla]

I also don't think she has the wiring for it. We want sort of relaxed and unscripted and authentic and even flawed and self deprecating, but also can throw a few barbs the other direction. And she seems so up in her own head and sort of. She strikes me as a person that doesn't want you to find out who she really is or what she's really thinking.

[Mike Murphy]

She's very guarded. Guarded and being unguarded may be the change. And also, if Trump is kind of the wild man who may not quite get the details right and may like wipe out American soybean industry, maybe the next person will be a little more buttoned down and smart.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I'll be looking forward to it. She doesn't seem like it. Newsom. There's something wrong with Newsom. He doesn't think clearly. He says a lot of insane things. But I can see where this would work for him. And I don't know, maybe we'll end up with Shapiro or Fetterman or somebody.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah, it's wide open. You know, there's gonna be whoever grabs the I'm different and I'm new and I'm authentic thing has rocket fuel behind him. Wes Moore, Governor of Maryland's. He's kind of an Obama. If Obama had a great military record. You know, there are a couple out there that have potential, but now we gotta run them through the car wash 100 times.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Mike Murphy]

You know, that's the process. That's the Internet.

[Adam Carolla]

It hacks on, taps the name of the pod. You're there. You got David Axelrod as well. And also Facebook x as well. IkeMurphy. Well, I think you can spell Mike and Murphy. I don't need to spell that one out. Mike, always good to get caught up with you.

[Mike Murphy]

Yeah. Good to see you, man.

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