DAG + AJ Benza (Carolla Classics)

Summary

Adam Carolla Show – Episode: DAG + AJ Benza (Carolla Classics) Release Date: August 15, 2023

Welcome to a special edition of Corolla Classics, where host Adam Carolla revisits some of the most memorable moments from over 14 years of The Adam Carolla Show. This episode features engaging clips and insightful conversations with longtime guests Dag David and AJ Benza. Below is a comprehensive summary capturing the key discussions, humorous exchanges, and notable insights from the episode.

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1. Classic Clip: Adam Carolla vs. The Traffic Cop

Timestamp: [00:43] – [06:21]

The episode kicks off with a humorous reenactment of a classic Adam Carolla rant involving Brian Bishop impersonating a traffic cop. In this skit, Adam tries to avoid a speeding ticket by fabricating an elaborate story about his daughter, Cicely, being stuck in the backseat of his SUV due to an imaginary dingo attack.

• Adam Carolla: “She’s strapped in three ways to fucking sundae... Do that amber thing. Do the amber thing.” [03:37]
• Brian Bishop (as Cop): “Sir, I frankly find your story horrible to believe.” [03:37]
• Adam Carolla: “Let me tell you about my dad's fortune... He's going to get that squawk bok faster.” [04:12]

The skit showcases Adam’s signature blend of humor and frustration, highlighting his ability to turn a mundane traffic stop into a comedic spectacle.

2. Interview with Dag David: Exploring Childhood and Family Dynamics

Timestamp: [09:36] – [24:45]

Adam sits down with longtime friend Dag David, delving into Dag’s childhood and the profound influence of his parents. Dag shares stories about his father, a renowned psychiatrist and author of the bestseller Black Rage, and the impact of his parents' divorce on his upbringing.

• Dag David: “When my parents separated when I was 10, it was a shattering point...” [10:05]
• Adam Carolla: “I gotta tell you, I in my hallway have a couple of pictures of my parents, minutes before they decide to get divorced.” [11:23]
• Dag David: “My father is the smartest man I’ve ever met. He was intimidating...” [22:03]

Dag recounts his father’s transformation from a respectable psychiatrist to a media sensation in the 1960s, discussing the complexities of their relationship and how it shaped his sense of humor and career in comedy.

3. Live Performance: Matt Nathanson’s “Girl in the Kink Shirt”

Timestamp: [30:33] – [35:53]

A highlight of the episode is the live performance by singer-songwriter Matt Nathanson. Backed by guitarist Aaron Tapp, Matt performs his latest track “Girl in the Kink Shirt,” captivating the audience with his melodic tunes and engaging lyrics.

• Matt Nathanson: [Performs “Girl in the Kink Shirt”] [30:35]
• Adam Carolla: “Matt Nathanson live in studio... It’s the girl in the kink shirt?” [31:20]
• Aaron Tapp: “This is about a waitress with tattoos we were in love with...” [37:08]

The performance is met with enthusiastic applause, followed by a lighthearted discussion about the song's inspiration and the collaborative efforts behind its creation.

4. Listener Call: Hillary Discusses Socially Impactful Songs

Timestamp: [41:35] – [51:56]

Listener Hillary calls in with thoughts on songs that convey social messages. The conversation evolves into a broader discussion about the effectiveness of music with meaningful lyrics versus lighthearted or superficial tracks.

• Hillary: “I recently heard a song by the Uncluded called 'Organs' about organ donation...” [41:35]
• Adam Carolla: “Why not say, become an organ donor?... It’s a zero in terms of social impact.” [42:13]
• Hillary: “What makes songs that actually hit home different from blowhardy ones?” [50:05]
• Adam Carolla: “All we’re saying is give peace a chance... It hasn't done shit.” [51:03]

Adam expresses skepticism about the tangible impact of such songs, arguing that they often preach to the choir without effecting real change. The discussion highlights differing perspectives on the role of music in social activism.

5. Guest Segment: AJ Benza on Being Banned from Stern’s Show and Baseball Standings

Timestamp: [52:11] – [64:54]

The episode features AJ Benza, who shares his experience of being banned from Howard Stern’s show due to a memorable incident from 15 years prior. AJ humorously recounts the event where he reportedly smacked “Stuttering John,” leading to lasting notoriety.

• AJ Benza (Brian Bishop as Dawson): “I smacked Stuttering John... It was a lefty, left-handed smack.” [52:46]
• Adam Carolla: “Why do we have reverence for any of this shit?” [54:44]
• Dawson: “Trump was the biggest guy in the world with that...” [57:08]
• Adam Carolla: “Why you need to be knighted for calling the world's most boring sport?” [55:20]

The conversation shifts to baseball standings, with AJ providing updates on various teams. The discourse takes a humorous turn as Adam criticizes revered figures in sports broadcasting and discusses the evolution of celebrity culture and media interactions.

6. Conclusion and Wrap-Up

Timestamp: [64:54] – End

As the episode draws to a close, Adam recaps the highlights, emphasizing the nostalgia and enduring popularity of Corolla Classics. He invites listeners to subscribe to the separate feed for more classic clips and bonus episodes, ensuring fans have access to a treasure trove of memorable moments from the show’s extensive history.

• Giovanni: “That was AJ explaining how he got banned from Stern... Classics available at corollaclassics.com.” [64:54]

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Notable Quotes:

• Adam Carolla: “My little daughter Sandy is not under that blanket.” [05:01]
• Dag David: “My father is the smartest man I’ve ever met. He was intimidating.” [22:03]
• Adam Carolla: “What’s so funny about peace, love and understanding? It hasn’t done shit.” [51:03]
• Dawson/AJ Benza: “If you’re making money, whenever you’re responsible for making money in New York, they find you.” [56:32]

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Insights and Themes:

• Humor in Everyday Situations: Adam’s ability to transform mundane encounters, like a traffic stop, into comedic gold underscores the show's emphasis on humor infused into daily life.

• Influence of Family Background: Dag’s stories about his father reveal how family dynamics and parental influence shape one’s career and personal outlook, adding depth to the comedic narrative.

• Evolution of Media and Celebrity Culture: The discussions with AJ Benza highlight the changing landscape of media, the proliferation of celebrity news outlets, and the shifting nature of fame and reputation.

• Role of Music in Social Commentary: The listener call segment debates the effectiveness of socially conscious music, presenting contrasting views on the power of art to inspire change.

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Conclusion: This episode of Corolla Classics offers a blend of laughter, heartfelt stories, and insightful discussions, making it a must-listen for both long-time fans and newcomers. Through classic clips and engaging guest interactions, Adam Carolla continues to deliver entertaining content that resonates with a diverse audience.

For more classic moments and exclusive clips, subscribe to the separate Corolla Classics feed available every Sunday.

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Transcript

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[Giovanni]

Hello everyone, this is Corolla Classics. I'm your host, superfan Giovanni. This is the podcast we play the best moments, highlights and fan favorite clips from all 14 plus years of the Adam Carolla Show. I'm coming up with you some more clips today while the staff are on vacation. Coming up first we have Adam Kishow, 1523 Brad Williams, Gina grad Brian Bishop, March of 2015. Check it out.

[Brian Bishop]

I had a buddy get busted for that. He had the the baby seat in the back but no baby. He used to use that for the HOV Lane and cop pulled him over one day and of course he my buddy kept a blanket over the baby seat, pulled him over and the cops like sir, we couldn't wake the baby.

[Adam Carolla]

We I can't take the blanket off.

[Brian Bishop]

This is a carpool lane. He's like, oh, the baby's in the back. It's like can I see the baby? Just give me the ticket.

[Adam Carolla]

That's how it went.

[Gina Grad]

What about pregnant women who are very, very pregnant saying I'm driving for two.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll let them do it.

[Brian Bishop]

No, because that's too behind the wheel.

[Adam Carolla]

Be the cop. I'll tell you what your body should have done.

[Brian Bishop]

Okay. Sir, I noticed you're driving in a PIE occupancy vehicle.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I am. If you could keep it down.

[Brian Bishop]

Is there a child behind you under the blanket? Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Suv. I mean, I'm driving suv. UV rays.

[Brian Bishop]

No, I understand. I actually do legally have to see the child. Can you mind just moving the blanket a tiny bit?

[Adam Carolla]

I'd hate to wake little Cicely up. But I guess you gotta do your job.

[Brian Bishop]

Yeah. I'm bound by you.

[Adam Carolla]

She knows me. So if you don't mind, I'll just lift the blanket off you, take a look through the back window, and then we kind of run in late. Don't mind.

[Brian Bishop]

Yeah, I'll take a look.

[Adam Carolla]

And you're doing your job. I understand.

[Brian Bishop]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Let me just peel the blanket back just a little bit here. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Is there dingo around here? We were at the Costco in Van Nuys. She was strapped in three ways to fucking sundae. Oh, my God. Do that amber thing. Do the amber thing. Her name is Cicely. Don't worry about the last name. I had pretty bad divorce from a Mexican dude or an Arab dude. Either way, get on the blower. There's no time to waste.

[Brian Bishop]

Sir, I frankly find your story horrible to believe.

[Adam Carolla]

No time to waste. What do they say in your parlance? Stat. Stat. Get that goddamn Amber going.

[Brian Bishop]

I believe that's medical.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, whatever. Then hurry. I want to see every electronic billboard of the time. At the same Sicily, by the way, not with an S, with a C, you understand? She's about two foot nothing. And she can't survive long in the mouth of that dingo. Or was it the Mexican dad?

[Brian Bishop]

Sir, I'm gonna need you to sign this ticket.

[Dawson]

Anything that'll speed this process up.

[Adam Carolla]

Anything that'll get you. And then it'll get you to that squawk bok faster. And get that thing up on the mainframe there. Because she is in the mouth of a Mexican. I mean, her dad is from. She may have gone back to Guadalajara on a dingo with a Middle Eastern guy in Sally Fields. Either way, let's get moving.

[Brian Bishop]

Well, that'll happen right away.

[Adam Carolla]

I am sorry I'm speaking in this tone, but I am so shocked right now to realize that my little daughter Sandy is not under that blanket.

[Brian Bishop]

You said a different name earlier.

[Adam Carolla]

What?

[Brian Bishop]

Cicely I believe, is the name.

[Adam Carolla]

Sir, I am in shock and I am frankly shocked that you do not realize that this mother I mean, father is in shock. Who. I'm a single parent. Do you understand me?

[Brian Bishop]

Your own gender mixed up.

[Adam Carolla]

Her mother perished in a horrible van fire in an HOV lane not six months ago. All right, now we can stand here and we can chat.

[Brian Bishop]

You're still wearing the ring.

[Adam Carolla]

About where? Okay, I've.

[Dag]

I've.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what? You grieve the way you want to grieve, I'll grieve the way I want to grieve. Yes, I've remarried. Some said it was a little soon. The point is this. There is nothing that's going to get little Sicily. Yeah, okay, Sicily.

[Brian Bishop]

Sicily and. Or Sandy.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, she's not dingo in the mouth of that Mexican who's hightailing it at the. What did he say? Guadalupe?

[Brian Bishop]

Guadalajara, somewhere in Mexico.

[Adam Carolla]

Got a something. He's not going to bring her back, but that's talking about it right here, right now. So I suggest you run, don't walk to that squad car. Yours. And I'm going to grieve the best way I can. No, not grieving. I'm searching for. By hustling to work down this HOV line. Okay? Okay.

[Brian Bishop]

Frankly, I can't go on like this any longer. So you may get something in the mail in a few weeks that says.

[Adam Carolla]

I hope it's an edible arrangeable with great apologies, in your name on the top of it. Our name will be on the top.

[Brian Bishop]

Of it, I tell you that.

[Adam Carolla]

Where's your badge number?

[Dag]

Good day. Thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Giovanni]

All right, this is Adam Carolla Show 1523. Coming up next, we have Adam Carolla show episode seven featuring Dag David on Grier and his main man for many years, maybe one day in the future. This clip, Adam asked Dag about his childhood.

[Adam Carolla]

It's very fun. So you grew up and I've never really completely gotten into it with you. On your childhood, I want to know what turned you into the monster. You grew up in Detroit. Your dad was a psychologist, your mom.

[Dag]

Psychiatrist.

[Adam Carolla]

Psychiatrist.

[Dag]

Even talked to you just because that is more intense.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's like Dr. Drew. Yeah. They, they. Well, the difference for those of you who don't know is the psychiatrist can prescribe drugs. It's much, much more schooling involved, especially.

[Dag]

Back in the day. I mean, now it's kind of like you don't really. It's rare that people, if you go to Psychiatrist. You're really out there. And what can get Zoloft from GP now, what.

[Adam Carolla]

What was your dad's story?

[Dag]

He. What do you mean? I mean, he was a psychiatrist. I mean, my parents separated when I was 10. When he was 40 years old. It was 1965, so.

[Adam Carolla]

Huge afro.

[Dag]

What?

[Adam Carolla]

I mean. I mean, did your dad. Tell me if your dad did what, Mike? Because my dad, he got a dashiki.

[Dag]

And a water bottle.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I'm saying.

[Dag]

But think about it. When I started reading it, yeah, he was about 40 years old. And all my life, I was like. That was a shattering point. Like, we had this great, idyllic family. We'd go on family vacations. All of a sudden, dad up and left. Now, when I look at the family pictures, the last three vacations of us when we went to Washington, D.C. you know, Yellowstone national park, there's my father in this black, stingy brim with black sunglasses. If I smiled any brighter, my head would explode.

[Adam Carolla]

Right?

[Dag]

Everyone but him is smiling. He looks like he's kidnapped us and is ready to kill us. So I can see now as a grown man that he was miserable. But I never saw it before.

[Adam Carolla]

I gotta tell you, I. In my hallway, have a couple of pictures of my parents, what, must be minutes before they decide to get divorced. And it's like, you know, you're sitting around the picnic table, and everyone's turning toward the camera and smiling. Dag, you know what? You have to see this. Oh, yeah.

[Dag]

I have them just like you do.

[Adam Carolla]

You have to see it right now.

[Dag]

But did you ever. Did you ever notice it before?

[Adam Carolla]

No, but let me. All right, listen, Weezer, talk to everyone for 10 seconds. We're gonna run downstairs. I gotta show Dag. Don't hit pause or anything.

[Dag]

Just.

[Adam Carolla]

Let's tell how we met, how long you've known me, Our first apartment. Yeah, it's gonna take 10 seconds.

[Dag]

Here we go.

[Adam Carolla]

There we go. Hey, Lynette. Lynette just walked in. Okay, this is even better. Here we go. Lynette, put on one of the headsets, please. Oh, you guys are lucky now.

[Gina Grad]

What's happening, Weezer?

[Adam Carolla]

Nothing. Lynette, glad you walked in. What's going on? Where are they going? Adam wants to show Dag his family photos where his parents look like they're ready to kill each other. Oh, I know the picture. Yeah, you got to look at it right now. Oh, they look miserable.

[Dag]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Adam and his sister smiling big for the camera, sitting around a table by the pool. Yep. And is that his mom? Just looks really sad. Blank face and his dad with his big afro. It's not sad. It's just. It's blank. Their expression is blank.

[Dag]

It's not happy.

[Gina Grad]

What are we doing?

[Adam Carolla]

We're not on right now. Yes, we are. Are you serious? Yes, I'm very serious. James Dixon just walked in the room, ladies and gentlemen.

[Dag]

Baby doll.

[Adam Carolla]

So that interference you hear is him in a cell phone working away. Oh, yeah.

[Dag]

It's interfering.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, here they come. Goodbye. Okay, thanks, Lynette. All right. Dag's putting his cans back on. Dag. Am I. Jesus Christ. Am I right or am I right?

[Dag]

Yeah, that's.

[Adam Carolla]

How miserable did those two look?

[Dag]

That hits home. That hits home. I mean, we've all had that look, but not, you know, with the finality of that.

[Adam Carolla]

My mom is looking the. She's got her head cocked at 90 degrees. She's telling my grandma to f. Kind.

[Dag]

Of looking at your dad like, how did this happen? I cannot believe this bastard is the father of my children.

[Adam Carolla]

I told my dad, I talked to my dad the other day. I said, dad, you guys got divorced and you didn't talk to each other for 10 years. You physically wouldn't come in the same room with each other. And I said, why? Why didn't you ever at least. Why weren't you at least civil? You know, walk up to the door when you're dropping the kid off, do that sort of. You know what he said? He said, I don't know. And I said, I do know. I said, you were both embarrassed to see each other. Like two fat people that hook up and fuck one night and then they see each other at work the other day. The next day, they're embarrassed.

[Dag]

To your dad, did he have good fortune, bad fortune, or did he just kind of float after the divorce? I mean, did he win the lotto?

[Adam Carolla]

Let me tell you about my dad's fortune. Here's how fucking poor my dad was.

[Dag]

Oh, God.

[Adam Carolla]

When my parents got divorced, they didn't even bother getting divorced because there was nothing to whack up. There was nothing. They were living in my grandparents extra house in North Hollywood. The crappy rental that they didn't put any money into, they were letting them flop there. My dad was so destitute that he literally got into his 63vW bug and he went to crash at my grandparents house. Not his parents, my mom's parents house in North Hollywood. One bath, one bedroom. Crashed out there because he had nowhere to go.

[Dag]

They still in. In the house?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Eventually he Got his shit not together enough to get a one bedroom apartment in North Hollywood.

[Dag]

And how much a month?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh yeah, they paid him to keep the carpet held down.

[Dag]

Let me tell you this. My dad, when he left my mom, he, it was like 1966, 67. He lived in San Francisco. It was a hippest.

[Adam Carolla]

He went from Detroit to San Francisco.

[Dag]

The hippest, coolest city in the world for that period of time. Then he wrote this national best selling book.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Dag]

Oh yeah, he was on TV. It was called Black Rage. You know, it was 1968. Why the Black man's Angry, you know. Oh yeah, he became an expert with this black suit. And we would sit at home going, oh my God, there's daddy. You know, he's on the, he's on Merv Griffin with Mitch Ryder and the Detroit wheels.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh my God.

[Dag]

Yeah, we could not believe it. Also, it was tinged with anger, resentment. This bastard made it out. Yeah, yeah. So that's how you want to. Yeah, that's how you want to meet your ex. So that's probably why they didn't, didn't run into each other.

[Adam Carolla]

So your mom, your dad wrote Black Rage, went to San Francisco and went.

[Dag]

To top 10 bestseller. It was huge.

[Adam Carolla]

Jesus Christ.

[Dag]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So he was a media sensation. He, you know, making money, hip, cool, banging chicks, going to orgies and all this kind of crazy stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Now did your dad go through this phase? Because my dad, when he was with my mom, dressed like Fred McMurray dressed on My Three Sons. He had a brown suit, brown patent leather shoes, and he looked like a low level IBM executive. And then all of a sudden they got divorced and it was like 1973. And my dad looked like the lead singer from Boston. Same grew huge afro. I showed you a picture of my dad, he rocking a massive afro. He's wearing the jeans that lace up in the front and in the back he's got some platform shoes and it's, he's got clear glasses. Not prescription, just clear glasses. He's given everyone, you know, you know, give me 10, give me five. You know, all of a sudden he's turning to the hippest cat in town.

[Dag]

Well, he's a musician and he's trying.

[Adam Carolla]

To get laid basically. And he's got to, you know, he's got to blow the dust off that old road and get out there. Did your dad do that?

[Dag]

Well, my dad, we went to visit him. He had this apartment in San Francisco and we found this big dashiki. He had a dashiki and Then.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that's my bad now. Oh, boy. No, see, you know, I should. I threw the. I threw the phone out the window last time it went off. Lynette did it. All right, Sorry.

[Dag]

Okay. So we went to visit my dad. This is 1968, I think, so this is the summer of everything. And he had a dashiki and this. No, the dashiki was back in the day, you know, back in the 60s. That's when, like, all black people were, like, dressing. This is the big African thing. It's. It's a signature piece of clothing from the 60s, right? So he had a dashiki and he had a waterbed. So those two things were like, holy shit. He. We have Broken Arrow.

[Adam Carolla]

We have a Broken Arrow dance Lost.

[Dag]

Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But. And I really wanted to live with them because it was just. He was in San Francisco.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, did your dad. Was he always that way? Was he always sort of militant? I mean, that's the.

[Dag]

No, because I think that, you know, I don't. I mean, I think he was who he was. But you have to remember, in 68, in 67, 68, 69. Like in Detroit, when the Black Panthers. Political talk, white or black, was sexy. I mean, that was like foreplay. You had to come and be able to rap and talk about, you know, the. Exactly. You know, this repressive government is, you know, social and physiological genocide on my people. I mean, that. All that. That was, like, sexy, you know, that was cool. You wanted to be able to. Faster. You could rap and quote Mao Zedong, all that stuff that was of the day. I mean, that's what you want.

[Adam Carolla]

What percentage of those guys were just trying to get laid?

[Dag]

98%.

[Adam Carolla]

98%. Because it's always weird when it's like, hey, man, I was marching right along. I was there. I was there in San. We're in Golden Gate Park. I was right there with the black. Yeah, we were. You right there trying to get laid as what you were trying to do.

[Dag]

And that was cool. I mean, I really wanted to be. I'm writing this book, and I remember I ran into a friend that I grew up with, Ronnie Livingston. He reminded me, man, we were 15 years old, and we walked all the way to the office of the Black Panther Party in Detroit, Michigan. It was riddled with bullets. You know, there'd been shootouts, all kind of crazy stuff. My mom was scared to death. I mean, I was, like, joining the Hell's Angels, right? And they said, brother, you too young, you know, to be politically active just yet. When you turn 16, then you can take that oath and come back and be a Black Panther.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Dag]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So we went back home and we were, like, all laughing about it and stuff. But at the time in the day, that was considered.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, did you think that was a route you were gonna go? I mean, follow in your dad's footstep?

[Dag]

Well, no, because, again, my father's book, if you read it, it's more clinical and historical. And unfortunately, I think it was used in a way that he never really intended it, which was like, Colin Ferguson used the black rage defense. And that's really not what. My father wrote the book so that he, lunatic of color, could shoot up half of the Long island railroad and then use the black rage. That he was angry because his forefathers were slaves. That's why he shot up, you know? Well, I don't think that's really what.

[Adam Carolla]

He was the only black guy on the planet named Colin, and he defended and he defended himself. That's always a good move, especially during.

[Dag]

I'm out of order, your honor. I recuse myself. Yeah, well, anyway, he told me that because he could have made a lot. I mean, he could have made a lot of money. I mean, that's a whole career just being, like, a psychiatrist and, you know, going around the country and being that paid expert at defending every lunatic black dude who did something crazy. And so he didn't want to do that. That's not really what he wrote the book for, but it became that kind of thing to some. Yeah, right.

[Adam Carolla]

And now your dad's still alive?

[Dag]

Yes, yes. Yes, he is.

[Adam Carolla]

And where's he living?

[Dag]

He's living in Encinitas, right outside. I shouldn't say, because. Anyway, he's living right outside San Diego. I'm not saying exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

And. And how is he with your career and your success? Does he have a sense of humor? He sounds like a real card, this guy.

[Dag]

Yeah, sometimes.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dag]

I'll put it like this. My father is. To me, when I was growing up, he was very intimidating. Like, I just, you know, for a lot of boys, a lot of men, maybe not for you. I really spent a lot of time being scared to death of my father. He never hit me. He never yelled at me. He was just intimidating. I mean, he was the smartest. Still is the smartest man I've ever met. And he's intimidating.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll put it like this.

[Dag]

I did a play in New York with Charles Dutton. Now, Charles Dutton served time in the joint.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, he told me all about.

[Dag]

Oh, yeah, he took a life or two, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dag]

Okay. He met my father, and he came back and he was like, oh, my God.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Charles Dutton's the real deal. Oh, he's not. He's. You know, he's not one of these rappers that grew up in IT in Burbank but pretends like he's from South Central. He did time. He killed guys. He fought it out with prison guards and gang bangers. I mean, he had a crazy, hardcore life. So if he's intimidated by Pops.

[Dag]

Yeah, he was intimidated by Pops when my father came to a rehearsal at the Public Theater when we were doing Richard iii. So I'll leave that out there for you. When he was in his prime. He's old now, you know, like an old lion, but he still is. He will hold court and talk ad infinitum about, is he intense? He is now, but, you know, now he's old. So he's like the old dog that used to be, you know, that killer rottweiler. And, you know, now he farts a lot and he's kind of, you know, and what's he.

[Adam Carolla]

And stuff. Like, will he give it up to you? You know, will he call you and tell you he's proud of you? He has.

[Dag]

I mean, it's like this. It's like this. Adam part of growing up, at least for me, was for a long time, I wanted that. You know, I wanted that. Hey, I really screwed up. I want to apologize for doing some things that were fucked. You know, I got to the point now where I realized, because I have friends whose fathers were there, and it was worse than anything I went through. I'm serious. I mean, they were like. They fought it out their butted heads. And I really came to the conclusion, I don't know how much better off our relationship would be had he stayed. Because for a long period when I was, like, 15, 16, 17, I could get away with shit because it was just me and my mom.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Dag]

You know, you could get away with stuff with your mom. I remember I broke into the house to get back in because my mom locked all the doors and put the burglar alarm off because she said, I told you not to go out.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Dag]

So I snuck out of the basement window. Then I had to break back in and act like I was asleep, but clearly there was a window open, Right? Yeah. So, you know, that kind of stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, where now? I don't mean where, but as far as your sense of humor.

[Dag]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I can't figure out whether it's nature or nurture a little bit of each. Did you always know what you were going to be doing or were you always this way when you look back on yourself now as an adult, was it pretty clear where you were heading?

[Dag]

I think as an adult, but I just hadn't found my venue because, you know, when I was a little kid, I wanted to be a rock star. I remember when I was like 10, I was like, showing my mom's shoes and I was like, why can't I get those shoes, mom? And she was like, what shoes? And I pointed to these silver platform boots with a rainbow on the heel. And we were in Berkeley, California, and my mom just looked at me like, wow, this is really serious.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Dag]

She was like, why would you want to dress like that? Because it's cool.

[Adam Carolla]

But you always sung, right?

[Dag]

Yeah, but I mean, that's what I want. I wanted to be like a rock star. I want to be that kind of stuff. And then it turned into acting, and then. And then it became comedy. I wasn't. No, I was not one of these kids who was like, doing tricks and wanting to be a comic. When I was a kid, I didn't know anything. I mean, I thought when I was in high school, only gay dudes did, like, Godspell, right? No, I was doing acid and smoking dope and going to concerts and being a fuck off, you know? Yeah, acting, that was really gay.

[Adam Carolla]

But let me ask you this about comedy. And I don't know if you can answer this or not, because I don't know if you've ever thought about it, but in a way, you're just a really good actor.

[Dag]

Thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

And you can, you can. You can act funny. Do you. Do you act funny intentionally or are you funny?

[Dag]

No, I think I am funny. I think I am. But it's something I discovered along with a lot of people want to act and they're terrible. We've all seen them, we've known them, we've lived with them, sometimes we've married them, where you have to sit these people down and say, dude or ma'am or whoever you are. You have no fucking talent. So it was something I wanted to do. And then as I pursued it, I discovered this talent. And the comedy part came later because for the first half or most of my career, I wanted to be like, you know, the negro doctor on the show, you know, the black lawyer. The comedy stuff just came out. I mean, but I would do stuff, you know, and you find out that's funny. I Remember when we did Loveline and the first time I did the vomiting thing and for people, I tell people that ask me, you and Dr. Drew were laughing so hard and Dr. Drew, there were tears coming out of his eyes. He took his headphones off and he threw them across the room. And it's something I always did. It's something I always did. But your girlfriend's not going to give it up like that. You know, my ex wife wasn't like, oh my God, you know, that was like I said I did it and then discovered that was funny.

[Adam Carolla]

The thing that's funny about Dr. Drew is he loves ass vomit humor. Which is, which is weird. Well, I agree. But it's funny that a man, we have to say doctor in front of his name, would love ass humor as much as he loves ass humor. But yes, he loved that. So it is something that you describe discovered along the way.

[Dag]

Yes, yes. And I will tell you this. As a kid, I was always a class clown. I was a class clown in class and I remember being very young and this girl coming up to me in like third or fourth grade saying, make my friend laugh because she's really sad. You know, like as kids. So I guess, yeah, I was always, you know, the class clown.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, do you feel it's funny? Because we were talking about doing this sitcom and previous podcast and I was talking about getting DAG involved with the sitcom. And as I've been going through these progressions of meeting showrunners and directors and writers, I've been noticing a theme which is the comedians and the people that are in comedy are some of the most fucked up, morose, serious people on the goddamn planet. And it's, I mean, you can do the math, painful childhood, tears of a clown and all that kind of stuff. But even just personally some of the, some of the biggest a holes and by the way, self important a holes.

[Dag]

Oh, I would ask you. I remember even as a comic, you know, coming on, I would, I always ask about people who are, who I think are brilliant and funny and invariably. Oh yeah, well, he's kind of a dick.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, when they say the name twice. Yeah, like they do that all the time. They go, donnie, salt of the earth, great guy. The guy David, you know, David is. He's your best buddy. You go into a dark alley, you want David behind you. Adam, you know, Adam's Adam, just say the name twice. That's why I tell people all the time, say the name twice and we'll know, we'll do the A hole math.

[Gina Grad]

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[Giovanni]

All right, that was Adam KRILLO show, episode seven, original format. Coming up next, we have Adam Krullishow 1178, Matt Nathanson, Aaron Tapp, David Wilde, Allison Rose, and Brian Bishop. Matt Nathanson live in studio. Girl in the kink shirt. Plus Allison's Aryan boyfriend. Recap for Matt, who didn't know the story.

[Matt Nathanson]

You said I should learn to sing.

[Dag]

Along.

[Matt Nathanson]

In your bedroom. At Ontario, we were haunted by everything we wanted. Kill the light.

[Adam Carolla]

We is back. Matt Nathanson is here. He's going to perform live for us. Last of the great Pretenders is the name of the new album available on Amazon and itunes as well. You know what to do. I got questions because my good buddy Bobcat Goldthwaite actually directed one of his videos, so we can talk about that. Matt. I'll tell you what. You're all set up. So you tell us the first song we're going to hear, play it and then sit down and we'll chat.

[Aaron Tapp]

Cool. So this is kink shirt, which is the song that Bob did the video for.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, great ye.

[Matt Nathanson]

Oh red love running circles my sweet fiction silhouette Meet me at night dinner Vein. There's two things we can both regret. It's all there in your chipped red fingernails oh oh oh. It's all there in the twisty of pigtails uh oh oh oh oh. It's the way she walks, the way she talks I can't stop thinking about the girl in the kink shirt. Take me home San Francisco. Can't stop thinking about the girl in the kink shirt? You and my imagination? You and my imagination? You and my imagination? Can't stop thinking about the girl in the kink shirt? Oh oh, sidewalk mariachi? I see you in your party dress played out sitting nancy bring on the apocalypse I don't need no songs playing on the radio? Oh oh, oh. I get my truth from your thrift store halo? Uh oh oh it's the way she walks, way she talks can't stop thinking about the girl in the kink shirt. Take me home San Francisco. Can't stop thinking about the girl in the kink shirt. You and my imagination? You and My imagination, You and my imagination. Can't stop thinking about the girl in the King shirt. Getting what you want can break your heart. Getting what you want can break your heart. Oh, baby, enough. You know what you want. It's gonna break you. It's gonna break you, Gonna break your heart. The way she walks, way she talks. Can't stop thinking about the girl in the kink shirt. Take me home, San Francisco. I can't stop thinking about the girl in the King shirt. You and my imagination. You and my. The matchama. You and my imagination. Can't stop thinking about the girl in the kink shirt.

[Dag]

Oh.

[Matt Nathanson]

Can't stop thinking about the girl in the kink shirt.

[Dag]

Oh.

[Matt Nathanson]

I can't stop thinking about the girl in the kink shirt.

[Adam Carolla]

Matt Nathanson. Matt, tell us who was backing you up so we can give him some credit.

[Aaron Tapp]

Mr. Aaron Tapp on the singing and the acoustic.

[Adam Carolla]

Nice job. Aaron Tapp sounded fantastic. It was funny. Aaron, hit the bricks. Matt, have a seat. That was the song I was listening to on the ride in, and I thought it was the girl in the King's shirt, and I thought, is that a hockey sweater? Is she a Kings fan? And then I thought, oh, no, he said San Francisco Bay area, up north, Sacramento Kings. I start doing them. I start trying. You know, your brain frantically tries to connect.

[Brian Bishop]

She's a big Webber fan.

[Adam Carolla]

She's a.

[Dag]

She's.

[Aaron Tapp]

She's a powerful woman. She, like bench presses, like Volkswagen. Those fans are no joke.

[Adam Carolla]

The Kings fans. Yeah. But we were talking about the Come Dancing and the Lola Kings. Very nice, by the way. Sounded amazing. Cool.

[Aaron Tapp]

It was fun.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Dawson gets a lot of credit for doing his mixing and setting everything up very nicely. Sounded sweet. Last of the Great Pretenders. Yes.

[Gina Grad]

Sorry.

[Adam Carolla]

That's all right. Let's give it a plug. Last of the Great Pretenders. It's available on itunes and Amazon. And. Yeah, ask a question, Allison. And then I want to hear about Bobcat.

[Gina Grad]

Is that song about masturbation?

[Aaron Tapp]

Most songs are about masturbation. I mean, what's up? I'm a man. I mean, female, too. I mean, everybody. What part of it gives you the indication that there's masturbation?

[Gina Grad]

Like, what's so overt that can't stop thinking about her and the mention of her in your imagination?

[Aaron Tapp]

Let's talk just historically about the men you've dated. Oh, God, you guys go way back. That there's a chronic masturbate. Have you dated? Chronic masturbating.

[Adam Carolla]

My fiance, Daniel.

[Gina Grad]

I feel like I've dated Average masturbators. My fiance, Daniel.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you hear about the Aryan guy? You heard about him?

[Gina Grad]

No, that was post us knowing I accidentally went out with a White Pride guy.

[Aaron Tapp]

What?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Gina Grad]

Hey, he just had pride in his Celtic heritage. And also, yeah, he didn't hate other races.

[Brian Bishop]

He just liked his a lot better.

[Gina Grad]

I mean, it wasn't like he hiled Hitler. I mean, yes, he raised his arm.

[Aaron Tapp]

How was that dinner? That sounds awesome.

[Gina Grad]

No, it was a horrible rally with fire off roading in a place where cars weren't supposed to go. And by the way, if the Jeep rolls, just step out. That's what he told me. It was awful.

[Adam Carolla]

The whole thing was awful.

[Gina Grad]

Yeah. Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Long way from nyu, baby. Long way.

[Aaron Tapp]

That's incredible.

[Adam Carolla]

So, you know, it's funny, I wasn't thinking about masturbation and I.

[Gina Grad]

It's weird that I was. Yeah, I guess it wasn't about that then.

[Aaron Tapp]

No, it's about. It was about a waitress that was. So we made this record in San Francisco and down the street from my house, pretty much, and every day we'd go to this cafe and there was this fucking brutally hot waitress. And she just had tattoos. She looked like she would beat you. And so of course we were, like, in love with her and she was super nice. And so she came to the table every day. It was like the five of us, five guys. And she'd be like, what would you like to eat? And we'd be like, you know, they couldn't, like, talk.

[Adam Carolla]

We'd be like, milkshake.

[Aaron Tapp]

And she ended up being super nice. And so one of the producers, like, you gotta write a song about the waitress. We love her. So I did.

[Adam Carolla]

How did you get Bobcat to direct the video? Or how did. How'd you get hooked up with Bobcat?

[Aaron Tapp]

So Bob, I did a thing with him, a comedy thing up in San Francisco for Sketch Fest, but he married a friend of mine, Sarah, that we went. That I went to college with. Sarah Disarrago.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Sarah has tattoos too, right?

[Aaron Tapp]

Yeah, lots of tattoos.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, yes. I know Sarah well. They work well, they basically work together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Aaron Tapp]

And so. So I knew Bob through her, but I had done. And I'd done this thing with him and he's a Kinks fan. Like, super Kinks fan. So I was like, do you think Bob would be into doing a video?

[Adam Carolla]

Bob's a really good director. Bob has directed a lot of cool movies on his own. And he also. When we did the man show, he used to direct lots of bits for us. And he was just a guy that's really good to work with and he's just very real. I don't, I think kind of that's his calling.

[Brian Bishop]

He's directed like four or five films and they've each gotten better. Like the last one was really, really God bless America. It's really, really cool.

[Aaron Tapp]

Yeah. And he has a new one about Bigfoot.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Giovanni]

Show 1178 Matt Nathanson with a killer song and Allison's Arian boyfriend story. Coming up next, we have adam Kollo show 1532. Jason Shapiro, Dr. Bruce, Gina Grad, Brian Bishop, March of 2015. Hope you guys enjoy.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on. Hillary's calling from Seattle. Hillary?

[Hillary]

Yeah. Hey, this. Oh my God. This is a music question that bizarrely relates to what you guys were just talking about. Couldn't have planned it better myself. I recently heard a song by a duo called the Uncluded, and it's called Organs, and it is about organ donation, which I thought was really awesome. It's actually a really cool song. You guys should check it out. But it made me think about you, Adam. I know you've mentioned like, hey, instead of click it or ticket and shit like that, we should say, hey, donate your organs. Like things that are useful or bringing people's attention to this.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, if you want to talk about, most people that give their own organs are going to die on the highway. And considering other people are all passing through the highway and 99.999 of the people who pass under the sign that say Clicketer Ticket already have their seatbelt on or will not do it under any circumstances. So thus, it's a zero in terms of social impact. Why not, say, become an organ donor? Yeah, but again, our city doesn't give a fuck about anyone who lives in it. They're just there to be heroes. But go ahead.

[Hillary]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Sorry, la, it's a shitty town. It's not run correctly. When you go to Seattle, when you go to Portland, when you travel around and then you get back in la, you go, oh, as I'm winding, you know, I'm taking ways, trying to fucking get my way to the airport today from Glendale. I'm off the freeway, I'm off the 2 freeway. I'm working my way through Alvarado to get back onto the 101. And oh, there's another homeless encampment. I mean, in the middle of Hollywood, like Thunderdome. We're fucking a third world nation. Yeah, it's the barbed wire around the freeway signs and the homeless encampment under the freeway overpass. And then there's a multi million dollar house that's quarter mile away on the hill. It's insane. Okay, anyway, we can't.

[Hillary]

Well, anyways.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, what we have.

[Gina Grad]

Don't interrupt him, Hillary.

[Adam Carolla]

We have huge camps of homeless people filling the streets, blocks. And they're not living in refrigerator boxes. They have tents. They're pitching tents outdoors. That is no problemo. You light a fucking Marlboro Light up on the beach, you will be cited. Yeah. What? Or you can defecate in the street and be fine. Okay, we're fucking insane. We're fucking insane. Okay, here we go.

[Brian Bishop]

What's your question?

[Hillary]

Got derailed.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Oh, speaking of derailed, there's no light rail system in this city. Sorry, go ahead. We're the only fucking. Who else. What other city. What other city doesn't have a rail system to the airport? What other major right city in any major country does not have a way to get from the city to the airport?

[Brian Bishop]

The rail that goes right into the airport.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. I can tell you exactly what's going on. I was in New York, it was snowing the entire time. I was in Portland and Seattle, it was raining the entire time. I got off, I got into out of the airport and looked around for my car. In the parking structure was 84 degrees. That's what you got. The rest, you're on your fucking own. We figured out really quickly that we went, hey, you want to go to Seattle? You're under three feet of water. You want to have fun in New York? Have fun shoveling your driveway. Or you can come here and we got this thing called a fiery orb. It's in the sky. It makes us warm. Now, as far as the light rail, the monorail, the homeless shit, the potholes, the taxes. Fuck that. Fuck that. We got a fiery orb. We have a fiery orb in the sky. We don't have to do shit. What do you want, a school system? We got fiery orb. Have fun. Have fun trying to find it when you go back east. That's what we got.

[Gina Grad]

Sorry, do you think it has anything to do with the taxi union? I'm really into conspiracy theories today.

[Adam Carolla]

Apparently, no. Everything in LA is this.

[Brian Bishop]

Are they run by the fiery orb?

[Adam Carolla]

It's the hot. We're the fucking hot blond who doesn't study. We're the fucking hot blonde. It goes. What do I need to fucking crack a book for? What do I need to put the time in? What do I need to. It's 82 degrees. We got. Oh, there's a place called Malibu. They had a place called Sladstones on the beach. Just go sit there and eat Dungeness crab all fucking day in the fucking middle of February. Go ahead. That's what we have. You think this blonde is going to crack a book? We have the fucking fiery orb in the sky. What do we need to study for? We don't need to return anything. We don't need to have school systems. We have a fiery orb thank you.

[Brian Bishop]

Hillary, your question.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm. Hillary. What happened to Hillary? She's defeated. Oh, she's fine. Let's see. Hillary.

[Hillary]

Are there any songs, Adam, that you feel like, convey a social message or commentary like that, that you actually think really hit the mark or resonated with you?

[Gina Grad]

And then here comes the song sub question.

[Hillary]

What makes songs that actually hit home different from the songs that are kind of blowhardy and are just, like, I.

[Adam Carolla]

Like for me, you know, here Comes the Sun, Honestly, actually, it's a pretty good song.

[Hillary]

It's a great song.

[Adam Carolla]

What popped into my head is what's so funny about peace, love and understanding? Because it's a great song. It's got a great tempo and a great beat, and it's. It's a. You know, I hate. Believe me, John Lennon with the Give Peace A Chance, it's a piece of shit. But this is a much better song, much better song to give Peace a chance because it's much more interesting. You can tell John Lennon was either high or just a blowhard. You know, all we are saying is like, shut the fuck up. This is a much better version. It's just more eight interesting, more nuanced, takes different turns, and it has a perfect mixture of produced without over produced. It's got a little frayed edge on it. Like when you listen to the drums on it.

[Matt Nathanson]

There's one thing I want to know why so far. Peace, Love and understand.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, we're just going to hear the drum beat, and then we'll. We'll tune out. I love this part. All right. I prefer A thousand times better than Give Peace. All we're saying is give Peace a chance. How about We Are the World? We Are the World. Ivory. Those are the greatest. And what about.

[Gina Grad]

Speaking of new favorite message songs, what about Trevor Moore's the Ballad of Billy John that we play?

[Adam Carolla]

I love that.

[Gina Grad]

That's my new favorite message song.

[Adam Carolla]

I love that song. I as. As horrible as it is, I played it for my wife and kids.

[Gina Grad]

I can't stop sending it to people.

[Adam Carolla]

My kids. Oh, they. They've heard enough. Yeah. I was gonna say they live with.

[Brian Bishop]

Me, like, kind of tame, actually. Yeah, Gina, you know, it's a song from our generation. Maybe not the song so much, but back when videos were a big thing on tv. Remember the Runaway Train video for Soul Asylum?

[Gina Grad]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Never Coming Back.

[Brian Bishop]

They took their big, like, moment of fame, their big hit single, and they made a video. I don't remember this. It was all missing kids.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Gina Grad]

Kidnapped children.

[Brian Bishop]

Kidnapped children, Missing Kids. And I think if some. A number of those kids were found.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Brian Bishop]

Well, I mean, a few of them, I think.

[Adam Carolla]

Makes sense. They run it enough. Yeah.

[Brian Bishop]

Huge hit.

[Adam Carolla]

It was nice.

[Brian Bishop]

That was like a big band like that used their big moment to sort of promote these missing kids.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Instead of the little lesbians in the bumblebee outfits not doing anyone any help.

[Brian Bishop]

There's only one lesbian.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you know what I'm saying. There's no group that it benefits is what I'm saying. All right. Sorry, Hillary.

[Hillary]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, what's so funny about peace, love and understanding?

[Hillary]

That's it. That's the one. I'm kind of surprised. I don't know why I would have.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, listen, it's mainly because I like the song.

[Hillary]

I know, right? Is that. Is that the difference?

[Brian Bishop]

Fuck you, Hillary.

[Adam Carolla]

Jesus Christ. What do you. I don't know.

[Hillary]

Like, is it something is being more specific and touting a specific cause, is that more helpful?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, there's one that tells you how to build a desalinization plant.

[Hillary]

Oh, no, no, no. Like, I don't know.

[Gina Grad]

Okay, so do compost mulch.

[Hillary]

That's a specific issue.

[Adam Carolla]

What? Love.

[Brian Bishop]

Oh, the McLemore song.

[Adam Carolla]

Same.

[Gina Grad]

Love the gay rights. It's a great song, actually.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, but there's not too many of those.

[Brian Bishop]

There's a very small.

[Hillary]

But like, what would you put Billy Joel's We Didn't Start the Fire? That's a little bit like commentary in there.

[Gina Grad]

I don't know, saying something.

[Hillary]

I mean, they are just sort of like, I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

No, that's like drinking a cappuccino and flipping through a history book. Goodbye. Not interested. Goodbye. All right, all right, listen, first off, by the way, all we're saying is give peace a chance. Is 40 years old. Has it done Shit. You know what I mean? It's not like we. Oh, we know. We pumped it into ISIS headquarters and had a complete change of heart. Now all those songs do is work on people that don't already receptive message, Right?

[Gina Grad]

You're preaching to the choir.

[Adam Carolla]

Abso fucking lutely. So it's for jackoffs to feel good about themselves, but it doesn't do anything. What the fuck? When does that ever do anything? Or I don't know, maybe we'd have 30% more world violence if we didn't have that song. Yes.

[Giovanni]

All right. That was Adam Kurillo show 1532. Coming up next, we have Adam Curlishow, 1813, AJ Benza, Joe Coy, Gina Grant, Brian Bishop, May of 2016. AJ I'm getting banned from Stern.

[Adam Carolla]

Somebody tweeted me yesterday. The standings in the Western Division. I think it was the Dodgers, Padres, Giants, Dimebags. Giants D back, d backs. Yeah. A.J. benz is here. If you could tell me how we're sitting 26, 27 games in, then I'll tell you my problem with baseball. AJ Benza. Like I said, case closed with AJ Benza. Reels Channel new episodes Saturdays. Of course, we remember him from Mysteries and Scandals. Used to watch all the time. And Stern now. What Got you.

[Dawson]

Remember I smacked Stuttering John years ago? 15 years ago. It still follows me wherever I go. It's my old bit.

[Adam Carolla]

Mike August says it's if it was yesterday.

[Dawson]

Yeah, wonderful, Great.

[Adam Carolla]

Why did you smack him?

[Dawson]

My talk show had just gotten canceled at E. And he kept letting calls in that were just bashing my show and he's in charge of the board. And then I said, one more call that gets through that's negative, I'm gonna go in there and smack you. The next call he did himself. He just disguised his voice. So I said, I got up, Howard got all nervous and I just smacked him. It was a lefty, left handed smack. Nothing to put him down. It was like, you're a prick kind of smack. And it was heard around the world. It's everywhere. It's the first thing on Google. It doesn't matter what happens. That could cure polio again. And they say the guy who smacks Stuttering John.

[Adam Carolla]

Can we have the breakdown of as of yesterday? You can go ahead and run that down.

[Brian Bishop]

First place, San Francisco Giants, 13 and 13. Tied with the Dodgers at 13 13. And the Colorado Rockies at 12 and 12, all fighting it out for that coveted playoff spot.

[Dawson]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

Pivotal game 27 coming up. I mean, who gives a shit?

[Brian Bishop]

One of these teams will have a winning record.

[Adam Carolla]

That'd be awesome.

[Dawson]

Padre's at three and a half out.

[Adam Carolla]

We had three teams that have the exact same record. 12 and 12. 13. 13, 13, 13. And even the 12 and 15 is still boring. All right, A.J.

[Dawson]

Is it bad to say. I know I shouldn't say this in la. I don't know. I don't get into the. What's his name? Scully. It's very. It's sleep inducing to me, especially a day. I know I can't. But a day game. I can't listen to that guy on the radio during the day. I know I can't. But I have to say, it's very. It's like a retail. Like he just talks like Rain Man. Like, he's a lonely and the old.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, here's the real question. Why do we have reverence for any of this shit?

[Dawson]

I agree.

[Adam Carolla]

Dodgers have a new Dominican on the mound every other day.

[Dawson]

So does my deli down the street.

[Adam Carolla]

The food sucks. And Vin Scully's a national treasure because he calls. He's sainted.

[Dawson]

I know he is.

[Adam Carolla]

And listen, calling hockey is a tall order, but calling baseball, nothing Story time.

[Dawson]

You could call it a family between innings and baseball.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? So look, he's a humble guy. I am Griffin guy. I like him and he does a great job. But why you need to be knighted for calling the world's most boring sport? That I do not know.

[Dawson]

Knight, the guy who calls hockey on Wednesday, does baseball on Thursday and a basketball, you know, playoff game on Saturday. That night. That guy?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Brian Bishop]

Kevin Harlan.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dawson]

They're insane, those guys.

[Adam Carolla]

A.J. you started off into this, you know, tabloid reporting, like way back, 20 years ago. Way back, yeah. Where's it. Where are we now? What? Like, if we were to. I mean, first off is all the tweeting and all the Facebooking and Snapchatting and all this stuff. Are all these places like TMZ and stuff, are they just become aggregate aggregators? Basically, for some stuff that someone already did, you'd have to go out and hit.

[Dawson]

Oh, I used to go out every night till 5am and be with the celebrities. You know, do everything with them to get a great story. Some fall in your lap, but some you hustle up. But nowadays, everybody's a writer if they have a laptop and a basement or if they can tweet or Instagram, picture them out with somebody. It's horrible. There used to be 15 people in the gossip or celebrity entertainment business that you followed. Now there's 15,000.

[Adam Carolla]

Were you ever bribed or.

[Dawson]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Adam Carolla]

I couldn't.

[Dawson]

I accepted too, sometimes.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah?

[Dawson]

Absolutely. You kidding me? For guys who, you know, more like mafiosa, those guys came at me because whenever you're making money, whenever you're responsible for making money in New York, they find you. If you're Italian and you help them out, they help you out.

[Adam Carolla]

Were they situations of like, I got caught with my goomin or my lady friend.

[Dawson]

That's happened with a celebrity that I had to snuff out here's right.

[Adam Carolla]

And, well, you didn't have to.

[Dawson]

But I knew I'd get a favor in return if I took care of it in the column or buried it.

[Adam Carolla]

Or is the favor more information on somebody else? Or is it some Dollars, it's.

[Dawson]

No, not money. It's information, when you need it, about a particular person. And most people would honor that because you took care of them. If a guy's got six kids and he's fucking around with his wife, with my ex girlfriend and I tell him I know maybe he'll pay me the favor back a year or so when I need it. And they did, they do. For the most part. Trump was the biggest guy in the world with that.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Dawson]

Oh, Trump spent every morning on the phone with me and other Page Six. He loved to get his name in the paper. And as a result, he would drop dimes on other people in every industry that he knew some dirt on. So you put somebody in the pave a big story. Then three days later you said Donald Trump was at the nick game with this supermodel and he's happy. Right. That's all it took.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Dawson]

Yeah, he was.

[Adam Carolla]

So would he call you directly?

[Dawson]

Yeah. In New York City with the newspapers back then, 20 years ago was just pick the phone up and dial. There was no. I mean, I used to file stories in a payphone. You know, there wasn't a big cell phone world back then. They were this big.

[Adam Carolla]

Was so Trump. I mean, obviously he's always been a self promoter. Now we're seeing it just kick into ultra drive. But I mean, it's always been, I'm gonna build this brand and I'm gonna cash in on this brand. And now the ultimate cashing in on a brand but even back 25 years ago, was always out there pushing the price.

[Dawson]

This is his M.O. i don't, I'm not even gonna call it an act. This is what he's like. He doesn't check his pulse in the morning. He'd check the papers to see if he was alive. That's the way he lived.

[Adam Carolla]

What do you think? On a psychodynamic level, he's a madman. Yeah, but is it. There's a method to his madness or madness to his method, which is, I'm getting rich with this brand that I'm creating by calling you and making sure I'm seen at a Knicks game with a model. But is it like, is he insane or is he shrewd?

[Dawson]

No, I think he's very shrewd. Shameless and shrewd at the same time. He's gonna get well, he's getting what he wants. Even if he lost the election, if he goes against Hillary, he'll still say, well, I got the most votes in the history of the gop he'll still take that to bed and be very happy with that. He'll build his brand for the next 50 years, and his sons will do the same thing. But I can't call him a man. I can't call him an idiot. You might not like his style, but Jesus. No one's ever played the American public and the United States government to this extent, and the media well.

[Adam Carolla]

And there's never been a time where we would have tolerated this.

[Dawson]

So the Kardashians, it's about brands. The biggest brands stand out.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So back in the day, a president or presidential hopeful couldn't be talking about a schlong and how big it is. And so this just wouldn't have.

[Dawson]

Wouldn't have worked.

[Adam Carolla]

But he's coming in off the Kardashians. His huge long is right. Wedged in between their huge ass. Yes. And he's going for it.

[Dawson]

Yeah. Well, and this is the guy that. Listen, back in the day, when he was with Marla Maples and we were going to write the story that they broke up, he cared more about, get my personal wealth in there. Make sure you get the number right how many billions I'm worth. More important.

[Adam Carolla]

So in a weird way, like in the. Let's see. First in the Revolutionary War, they were all coming in, marching in line with their colors and everything. British and our guys were hiding behind shrubs and in trees and stuff. And then we. We switched to Vietnam, and we all come marching in, and they're all hiding in trees, doing the guerrilla warfare. And it's this kind of thing where I think the British back in the day were like, hey, this is not the way you run a war. And it's like. It's the way you win a war. White to their eyes. Come on. They thought that back in the day, they thought submarine warfare was a cowardly way to conduct yourself. And it's like The Germans took 500 million metric tons of supplies and soldiers and flesh and put them at the bottom of the Atlantic. So evidently, with them, it was okay.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

It worked pretty darn nicely. And there was other factions that were like, well, that's not noble and all.

[Dawson]

Fair and loving war.

[Adam Carolla]

The point is, is he's got himself a submarine.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

He's hiding in a tree with a submarine. I'm on a roll. Don't slow me down. And he's just gonna win the war. And everyone's sitting around just going, tiff. Tis this. Yeah, that's not the way you fight a war. Where's your. Where's your humanity? Where's your nobility? Where's decorum? And it's like, I don't have any. I'm just winning the war.

[Brian Bishop]

Yes. And speaking of the changing paradigm, it's like your brand just. It's important to have a brand. It's not important that your brand means anything good.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Brian Bishop]

Like, when Trump line came out, I'm sure we all thought, oh, I'm sure that's gonna be fantastic. When Trump University came out, like, oh, wow, the next mit, like, no one thinks that Trump anything or thought Trump anything signified great quality was sort of a joke.

[Dawson]

Like, oh, like Magic Johnson steaks.

[Brian Bishop]

Yeah. But it was a brand. It was out there, and it was known. And thus it is known. And it is known.

[Dawson]

Yeah. That's all you gotta be is known and be a little loud and get people's attention and be a bit of a cheerleader.

[Brian Bishop]

Infamous used to be the opposite of famous. You were famous or you were infamous. It was the two opposites. Now it's known.

[Dawson]

This guy has it all. He has it all figured out. And it's a shame because, you know, he's. Look, there's a lot of angry people behind him, and you can't just ignore those angry people. I'm not saying all his answers are right, but the scarier thing is, if he doesn't win, what happens to all those angry people? Where do they go? What happens in America? I'm concerned about the 10 million people he got that are pissed off.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I think it's gonna be one of those things where they talk about how domestic abuse goes up around the Super bowl. Kicking goes up 86% after Hillary takes office on election night. Must be a lot of guys kicking their dogs.

[Dawson]

Who was the comic? I must have. I don't know who said it, but it's great. She's fighting to get the job, to live in the same house. Her husband got a blowjob. She's gonna sit in the office in the chair that her husband got head in. It's just. That's a very weird thing to want. And maybe. Maybe. But that's what you want.

[Brian Bishop]

It's a dangerous liaison.

[Dawson]

Revenge, I assume. My wife had sex with a guy in a bar. I would never go to that bar again. But I guess if it may be the most powerful person in the world, I might show up.

[Gina Grad]

But if your only goal was to own that bar.

[Dawson]

Yeah, it's. It's just. It's really creepy. But when I see them up there together, I go, oh, it's the 90s again. It's everybody's rich, we're all doing great, but he just looks like he's about three weeks from dying.

[Adam Carolla]

He looks frail, Mike.

[Dawson]

He looks like Al Sharpton. They're eating the same, they're on the same diet, the both of them.

[Adam Carolla]

They, there are, there are those people where you go, remember how I told you you could lose a few a few years ago? You've done more than a few.

[Gina Grad]

Like towards the slated looks like, are.

[Dawson]

You just getting over cancer or you're about to get cancer? What is that look?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, and the voice is cracking.

[Giovanni]

All right, that was AJ Explaining how he got banned from Stern for that really weird punch. And that's kind of stupid reason for it all happening. Fun clip. A lot of people have been requesting more AJ so I'll play some more AJ clips for you. If there's any AJ clip you specifically want to hear, let us know. Classicsavencarolla.com I'll play for it. That was all the clips for today. If you can't get enough of this podcast, there's a separate feed titled Corolla Classics. Make sure you subscribe every Sunday. There's a bonus episode if you'd like to see some of these clips. YouTube.com mkorollacorner C O R N E R Until tomorrow and get it on.

[Gina Grad]

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