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Adam Carolla
Well, in this episode, very funny comedian Dana Gould sits in for a nice long form conversation. We'll do that right after this. Hey, this is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show. Betonline continues to be your number one source for all your sports betting action. Baseball's in full swing, football is right around the corner and Betonline's got you covered with the latest odds, breaking news and live scores. Betonline and even has live in game betting. While the games are being played real time. From MLB to UFC to tennis to NFL futures, Betonline, that's the place to play. And between games, hit up the Betonline casino. Packed with top Vegas style games, poker and live casino, Betonline has it all. Sign up now and score big. With VIP rewards, level up bonuses and weekly cash bonuses bet online. The game starts here. This summer, Pluto TV is exploding with thousands of free movies. Summer of cinema is here. Feel the explosive action all summer long with movies like Gladiator, Mission Impossible, Beverly Hills Cop, Good Burger and Dark of the Moon. Bring the action with you and stream for free from all your favorite devices. Pluto TV Stream now, pay never. From Corolla 1 Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today, Dana Gould. And now he's not a basic, but.
Dana Gould
Basically he likes to.
Adam Carolla
Adam Carolla. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the choice, but on the mandate, you get it on. Thanks for tuning in. We love that about you. Dana Gould. Comedians, comedian in the studio, hanging with Dr. Z, live in person and live streamed as well. Dynasty typewriter. That'll be September 7th out here in Los Angeles. And you go full hair, full makeup, full prosthetics. I do everything. So funny, funny show. And Dana's, I don't know if we call you the comedian's comedian, but still.
Dana Gould
Alive is usually the thing.
Adam Carolla
You know, here's what I'm curious about because I'm curious about your assessment of where you are or how you're perceived.
Dana Gould
Oh, that's a good question.
Adam Carolla
And so what'll happen frequently? Because you know, I do comedy and then I'll talk to other guys and talk to guys who've been there and done that, booked everywhere and worked with everyone. You know, guys like Mike August, you know, sure. And then they go, well, this guy's real popular, but he's not that funny. But this guy's real popular, but he is and he's funny.
Dana Gould
Right?
Adam Carolla
And then there's this guy is real funny but not that popular. But I don't know why he's not more popular. And then it's, that's me. Right? And then at some point, Dana Gould's name will come up. I'll go, that guy's so funny. But then you go, funny, but, like, you must pick a sport. Like, you can't just be athletic. You have to. You have to.
Dana Gould
I think that's a good. Yeah, I think that's pretty astute. I think of my. I always make musical analogies. And the way I see it, you know, I wanted to be the Beatles, right. But I'm X, right?
Adam Carolla
X is the name of a band. Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Dana Gould
Beloved. Still going. Still amazing.
Adam Carolla
But it's like.
Dana Gould
Or Yola Tango. It's like the people who own record stores are bananas for these bands, but it doesn't translate. And I think, no, I only recently.
Adam Carolla
Dove in is because you said, I wanted to be the Beatles, but I'm X. Yeah. And there's probably a lot of people listening, saying, spit it out.
Dana Gould
Yes, exactly. Yeah.
Adam Carolla
But X is the name of the band, not an equation.
Dana Gould
Exactly. And that's the point. That's like, people don't know who, Right? But every band you love, if you say X, they go, oh, my God, those guys.
Adam Carolla
Right? And so X is Exena Cervanka, who I interviewed once, was a total bitch.
Dana Gould
She's a little. We like to use the phrase neurodivergent.
Adam Carolla
Oh, she's very neurod. Well, she was neurodivergent back when that was a bitch. Now she's graduated into neurodivergent. Right. And John Doe.
Dana Gould
Yeah, they're an old LA punk band. One of the original LA punk bands.
Adam Carolla
Right. And they're good because they have great harmonies and, like, Once Over Twice is a great song.
Dana Gould
They're just great.
Adam Carolla
All right, they're great. But they're at the Knitting Factory this weekend.
Dana Gould
Exactly. This is still in the clubs.
Adam Carolla
They're at McCabe's out in Santa Monica. But they're not doing the arena. Right.
Dana Gould
Yeah, exactly.
Adam Carolla
Right. All right, so your ex.
Dana Gould
That might be even giving myself more credit.
Adam Carolla
No, I think that's good. I think that's good because you get this. So then you go, well, Dana. I mean, Dana's so funny, but Dana is not filling arenas. But you go, all right. I mean, you've made your living doing comedy for 30 some odd years, so. Okay. You're already way ahead of wherever the Mason Dixon line is.
Dana Gould
Yeah. And it's like, I'm not filling arena. I also have three Emmys. Nobody Cares about them.
Adam Carolla
But no, no, no. Cause Mike says all the time, Mike will go, we've got that Simpson money. And then I go, I guess, I mean, I assume. I don't know what that Simpson money means.
Dana Gould
The Simpson money was amazing, but it was also 10, 12, 15 years ago.
Adam Carolla
Right. You don't get to just, no, never work again because of Simpson money.
Dana Gould
No, but I'm. But I mean, I have three. Like you, I have like five careers. You know, I'm a TV writer. I write on the show Ted, Seth MacFarlane's show. Brilliant show. But, you know, in the, in the current climate, it's like, congratulations on a show. We're making eight episodes every four years.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
So you need to divert. You know, I have my little podcast, I have my little sideshows and I, you know, I, I write on other things. I love being a writer. I just, you know, because I got into it so early.
Adam Carolla
Writing or comedy?
Dana Gould
Stand up. Comedy, yeah, stand up. This is a little, you know, I started when I was 17. My first set as a standup comedian was June of 1982.
Adam Carolla
Wow.
Dana Gould
And I was out here in LA. I moved to LA in 89 and I was very good friends with a brilliant comedian. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant guy named Kevin Rooney, R.I.P. and Kevin was like my comedy Obi Wan Kenobi. And he got me into the improv and he really taught me how to be a good comedian. Kevin also, because I was always with Kevin, he was like my older brother's Erzat's father figure. I hung around with Kevin and all of his friends. Jay Leno, Larry Miller, Bill Maher, Jerry Seinfeld. Like all of those guys think that I'm kind of in there class because I was always around with them socially. Actually, age wise, I was with Patton Oswald and Brian Posayn and all of those guys. But they were still in San Francisco. They hadn't moved down to LA yet. The point is, I always had my feet in these two camps. And right when, and then Ginny Garofalo and I kind of were at the forefront of the alternative comedy scene in la. And right around the time that where I really belonged and where I would have broken through into stadium level fame was when Patton and those guys did the Comedians of Comedy Tour. That was that, that was my, that was my demographic, that was my audience. And that is where I would have probably made that jump. But because I was ahead of them by that time I was already married, owned a home, and had started writing on the Simpsons, which was an offer I couldn't say no to. So I sort of. I missed that boat. And so I. You know, I sort of. I just had to kind of forge ahead and have whatever career I. I had. I love my career, but, Yeah, I think in terms of, like, grabbing that level of fame, I decided to have a different. Different discipline.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Well, I'm.
Dana Gould
Does that make any sense? Is that even remotely entertaining?
Adam Carolla
Well, informative, for sure.
Dana Gould
Yeah. And the reason I came up with Leg show was Hustler had broken through. Just trying to.
Adam Carolla
No. What? I'm. I'm curious. I talk to people about, you know, this guy or that guy, but I never really talk to the person about their perception Right. Of where they are. Like, Mike August has his. Dana. Dana's super funny, but Dana's too hip for the room. It's like he needs to. Yeah. You know, pick a lane kind of thing, you know, 100%.
Dana Gould
And by the way, that drives my managers crazy, because my managers would like it if I. My managers would love it if all I did was write a movie. Like, you know what you could do? Write Jaws. That'd be good movie. Like Star wars with Jaws in it. Could you write that tomorrow? My agents would love it if I would just. Would create a TV show. And. But I'm too. I don't know if it's scatterbrained or whatever. I have too many disciplines that I. That I enjoy and that I keep doing. And, you know, I pay my rent and I. You know, I love having. I love doing the Dr. Z shows. I mean, I don't make money doing that, but I love doing it. And I was at Zany's this weekend. I came up with five new minutes. You know how happy that makes you when you get a new chunk that works that makes you happy. You know, at some point today, I'm gonna work on a movie that I'm writing. And, you know, I agree.
Adam Carolla
I don't know. It's sort of sad when people think the end all and be all is cash, which it's fine, and it's good, and I like it. But it's always weird. Like, sometimes you'll hear Howard Stern go on for a long time. Like, this guy had the cushiest gig ever hosting this or hosting that, and then he walked away after five years. That's nuts. You don't walk away. And it's like, yeah, you do. If you think you can do other things and you've done enough of the one thing, and you only need.
Dana Gould
This is a really un American attitude. You can have enough money.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, but also it's not. Look, I've said a million times what makes a sad job. Like when you're doing a eulogy, you know, and you go, the guy worked at the postal sorting facility in our leader for 49 years. He retired and he died two days later, right? So you go, okay, so what's sad about working at the postal sorting facility? Or even what's bad about my grandmother working at the VA in Westwood for a million years? Which she didn't. She didn't enjoy her job. Well, a, we assumed the postal sorting place wasn't paying you in cougarrands and you weren't pulling up a Rolls Royce and so on. So the pay. But the reason we emphasize he worked at this place for 50 years. Like that guy worked at the mill for 40 years and then he died. You know, he worked at the foundry, worked at the Ford plant in Dearborn. Right? Because you're going to the same place every day for 50 years. And there's a part of that that we think is sad, right? And my feeling is you can host a late night show for 40 years, too, and you can make 25 million bucks a year, but you're still going to the same postal sorting plant in Arleta. You're going to the same place, you're doing the same thing. The only difference is you're being compensated and there's lots of perks. But I look at it as you're going to the same job in the same factory. It's just the factory is Hollywood and you get a big office, but you're going to the same place 100%.
Dana Gould
And it really comes down to, like, do you enjoy your life? You know, Stephen King said, your life is not a support system for your art. Your art is a support system for your life. Like my dad was worked for the phone company all of his life. He had no love for the phone company.
Adam Carolla
Right?
Dana Gould
But his passion was hunting. He loved hunting. And he lived. He's still alive, but he lived to go hunting. And the phone company paid his rent and he fed his family. And then when he had free time, he went hunting.
Adam Carolla
Right?
Dana Gould
That was his life, Right? Happy as a clam. You know, it's like if you go to the same factory and you pay your rent, and then when you're not working, you're just sitting around eating Doritos, wanting to kill yourself. That's not great.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah. So I still. Right? And look, I used to work jobs. I didn't want to work and you'd sort of work another great unsung band.
Dana Gould
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
Called Lover Boy. Everyone was working for the weekends, you know, sure have to work for the weekends. And everything was that Fred Flintstone sound. Bell sound, right.
Dana Gould
And slide down the brontosaurus neck.
Adam Carolla
Right. And you could enjoy yourself from Friday till Sunday night. And then it was time to go back. And there's a weird. There was a weird part going. I transitioned seamlessly from horrible, horrible student to shitty, shitty job. So Friday and I worked construction. So the entire time I was going into the LA Unified School District and being warehoused, the bell would ring at like 3, 3:30, 3:06 or 3 something. And then it was time, you know, Friday. Right. It was weird. And then when I work construction, construction is 7 to 3:30. And it was the same thing. Friday, 3:30, the bell would ring. And it was. The funniest thing for me is I hated digging ditches and sitting in class so much that my favorite day wasn't Saturday, it was Thursday. It was Friday at 3:30 just because it was done. It was as far away from the.
Dana Gould
From going back to work as.
Adam Carolla
Right. Saturday afternoon was like halfway back. I look, I know that I would look at Friday at 3:30 when I was either driving home from the construction site or walking home from school. I'd go, this is as far away from 7am Mondays we're going to get.
Dana Gould
The summer of 1983, I bagged groceries at the Stop and Shop in Hyannis, Massachusetts. I was at the same time on an HBO comedy special really, called Campus Comedy that I did as a freshman in college. I would be bagging people's groceries and they would recognize me from being on TV the night before. It was awful and I really hated it. And it would. Yeah. I would start, See, I would start dreading going back to work the minute I got out of work.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Dana Gould
And when you dream about your job, when it seeps into your unconscious, I know that's the worst thing. But you know, in terms of comedy, like before we started, you and I were talking about Albert Brooks. And one of my favorite jokes from the movie Defending youg Life, I came up with all nude. You know, Albert Brooks is not Steve Martin.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
But I think he's funnier.
Adam Carolla
Yes. Well, so it's just one of those things.
Dana Gould
Albert didn't sit and go, how do I not become successful?
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
You know, he, you, you, the. The who and the Kinks.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
They're both great, right? One does X, one does M. You know, Right.
Adam Carolla
It, it just Not X the band.
Dana Gould
X the band, but you know what I mean.
Adam Carolla
Jumping in the who.
Dana Gould
You know, the who does Shea Stadium and the Kings could not do Shea Stadium.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Dana Gould
But song for song, they're both great bands.
Adam Carolla
No, I agree. You know, look, Albert Brooks gets. Does not sell out the stadium, but his payment is us talking about him in this glowing fashion on this podcast and having thoughts. Me telling everyone, defending your life is one of my favorite movies of all time. There's a giant poster back there of defending your life. Not only. I don't say it's about too many movies. It's Big Bear. It's funny, but it's important. It's an important movie.
Dana Gould
That's exciting stuff.
Adam Carolla
There's so many great scenes.
Dana Gould
So many great scenes in that movie.
Adam Carolla
I was trying to rip toward. I was trying to explain. I don't know who. But there's that great sign when they. That great part where the Italian waiters, you know, at the restaurant, it's like, you like pasta, you like pies. I'll give you 100 pies. And then there's. And he's like, no, no, no. But there's a great part where he goes, how many days do you have? And he goes, nine days. He goes, ooh. He just makes a sound like some weird. It's also, when you work at Eternity Village, you should have decorum. You know what I mean? He made a sound, and it was great because he knew enough. Like, it's kind of a funny human thing, which is humans can't prevent themselves from saying cruel things like, wow, that is a lot. I don't see that many days. And that's got to be difficult. Like, they won't say that, but they can't prevent themselves from making a noise. You know what I mean?
Dana Gould
For people who don't know the movie, the premise of the movie is when you die, you go to court and you have to defend your life, and depending on the mistakes you made, and you either move forward in the universe or you go back.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
And it's a brilliant. It's a brilliant idea. And it's. God, it's such a funny movie.
Adam Carolla
It's smart.
Dana Gould
It's like Groundhog Day in the. In the sense that it's a comedy, but it actually means something, as opposed to the brilliant but relatively meaningless dirty work that I watched the other night.
Adam Carolla
Right. Well, the thing about Groundhog Day, which is great, but they don't really explain why it's Groundhog Day or how it's Groundhog Day, you Know what I mean? And Albert Brooks, in Defending youg Life sort of gives an explanation in the movie of what this is. You die and then you. It's kind of Jurassic park where you go like, oh, my God, what? And they go, well, they take the mosquito with the amber and you go, okay.
Dana Gould
You know what it is, though?
Adam Carolla
Listening.
Dana Gould
Do you know? You know, there's this thing for. There's this thing called the Hero's Journey, which is the. Joseph Campbell. The Star wars is the hero's journey. It's the mythic structure of a movie where somebody has a call to action. They refuse the call to action. Then they meet a mentor that helps them give the call to action. They go into this D, they learn something, and then they come back and save the day. Star wars is beat for beat. The Hero's Journey that became instilled in Hollywood that every script has to be the Hero's Journey. And Groundhog Day and Defending youg Life are like episodes of the Twilight Zone. And they're my favorite stories where something happens to somebody and then they have to react. And sometimes they're buffeted by events. It's the reason that I hate a lot of the things about the Daniel Craig Spector movies. It's like, no, no. Blofeld has to be his brother from childhood. And everything has to be personal and driven by motivation. And you can't just have something happen to somebody. I love the movie north by Northwest where Cary Grant is mistaken for somebody else.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
That's the movie. But now it would be, no, no, no. He had to be somebody who all of his life wanted to be mistaken for somebody else.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
And then his childhood friend. Everything has to be personal and driven, which I don't like.
Adam Carolla
I'm with you in that. I will go along on a journey, but I need it to live in some reality somewhere.
Dana Gould
Same way.
Adam Carolla
And so you go, liar, liar with Jim Carrey. You go, well, what's the premise? Super funny. He's a fast talking, bullshitting lawyer, and all of a sudden he cannot lie. He's in court. He's in front of his lady friends. He farted in the elevator. He cannot lie. And you go, well, that's funny, but why can't he lie? Yeah, because I don't know how we're gonna figure that one out. He can lie. And they go, his son. Yeah, he's having a birthday party. And when he makes a wish, when he blows the candle out and you go, well, I wanted to be an astronaut. I wanted my dad to be Six foot tall. I want a lot of stuff, but it never happened. I go, no, we play wind chimes when he blows it out, and then we know. And I'm like, yeah, it's funny, but how does that affect Jim Carrey lying? And I go, that's the movie. And you go, okay, but I don't really buy it. Like the two guys pissing in the fountain and then lightning hits the fountain, and now you switch personalities. I don't. I'd have to get.
Dana Gould
Wait, is that a movie?
Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah.
Dana Gould
What movie is that?
Adam Carolla
That movie I'm looking at. Andrew knows all movies. Ryan Reynolds and Jason Bateman. The switch. The switch.
Dana Gould
They're pissing in a fountain.
Adam Carolla
Look into it. Yeah, they're like in Italy, by the way, our fountains here don't work. But if you're in Europe, their fountains work.
Dana Gould
I will say that has been scientifically.
Adam Carolla
Proven, though, saying if you go to Griffith park and you throw something in the fountain and make a wish, nothing happens. But if you go to Rome and do it, you can't results.
Dana Gould
Or if there's. Well, they're all Twilight Zone episodes. You know, they're all just funny Twilight. You know, a guy finds a stopwatch that can stop time. The guy, you know, it's like. And, you know, I say the Twilight Zone. They're oh, Henry stories. But, you know, it's.
Adam Carolla
I love that change up.
Dana Gould
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
I don't know what year, but I love.
Dana Gould
I love that. I love. I love those things. But now everything has to be, what's the hero's journey? How can somebody be in a situation that they didn't start?
Adam Carolla
Right. All right, I got. I'm curious what you think of this 2011 is the change up? I want to read the Slugline synopsis for it, but. Okay, let me tell you what you think. Tell me.
Dana Gould
Oh, I love realistic synopses for famous movies. For the Graduate, it's stalker destroys family. It does make you laugh. But you watch these movies now, and it's like, you're a horrible person.
Adam Carolla
Right. All right, Now, I have graduated from running through red turn arrows, left turn arrows into. I now run red lights. And I do it frequently. Straight through or straight through. Okay, straight through. And I'll tell you what. But I'm interested in the psychological dynamic of this. And then I'm also interested in a scenario that happened to me a day ago when I did it again. The logline is. One fateful morning, family man Dave and bachelor Mitch wake up in each other's bodies as a result of a wish they made the previous evening and that's when they were pissing into the fountain. And once the fountain is struck by lightning, of course the electric carries through the urine, up the urethra and into the hearts and minds of America.
Dana Gould
As we know is provable.
Adam Carolla
Here's the interesting concept that I want to lay out to you and then tell me and then a scenario and I want to know how you would react. Okay, So I understand it's difficult for people, but I literally was driving to Las Vegas, right? And I've thought about it a long time and I thought to myself, there's nobody I know who would just drive through a red signal unless there was an emergency. They just wouldn't. And pch, I drive through a lot of them because it's easy because there are three ways. There's nobody coming from the ocean, it's just this way. So you look to your left, if you're heading towards Santa Monica, there's nobody, nobody going. And you look in your rear, you don't see any cops and you just drive through. So no one I know would do that but me. But between LA and Vegas on the 15, everyone I know would do 85 and a 65 all the way to Vegas. Yeah. And they have fixed wing airplanes and cops parked to the side with radar guns. They are waiting for you.
Dana Gould
Yeah, because you're speed. You are a revenue source for their community.
Adam Carolla
Right now running red lights is not a revenue source because only Adam Carolla does it.
Dana Gould
Right.
Adam Carolla
I'm a unicorn. So there's not a revenue source for them. But everybody speeds. 70% of people are speeding and if you put a stoplight in the middle of the 15 and all the people that were speeding would stop and dutifully wait at that stoplight until it changed the green and then they would go through it and then we'd go back to breaking the law. But they would obey the law for the stoplight. Even if you just put it there randomly and there was nothing to the right, nothing to the left but desert, they would do it. So then it becomes like a thought experiment, like okay, well wait a minute, why won't you go through that red light? Answer. I'm not breaking the law. Well, you do break the law. Cuz you drive 20 miles an hour faster than the speed limit all the way to Vegas and they go, I guess. But other people do it as well. And you'd go, okay, but it still doesn't really explain your relationship with the law. Like you're willing to do it. Other people are willing to do it. But what is so different about the red light? And then they would go, well, I'd be scared to get a ticket going through the red light. And I would go, well, the red light is a much more manageable situation for you. You stop, you look in your rear view and you don't see any cops. Right. And then you look forward and you don't see any cops. And then you look up the road that's coming down and you don't see any cops. Right. Well, there's no cops and they're not hiding out there because you're the only one who does it. Yeah, but when you're going down the 15, they're behind billboards, they're in helicopters, they got a plan for you.
Dana Gould
Is there a theory, though, that you go through the red light and then you get a ticket with a photo of your license plate going through the light?
Adam Carolla
Well, if it's a, if it's a photoed, you know, camera intersection, then by all means, my argument is off. But it's few and far between.
Dana Gould
They're not universal.
Adam Carolla
Now, all the ones I run all the way here, there's no, there's nothing. I go through them all.
Dana Gould
How about this? And like it's four in the morning and you're coming home from a shoot and you're at Wilshire and Fairfax.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
There's nothing and there's nobody around.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Then go through it. But here's.
Dana Gould
And if the cops pull you over, you go, really?
Adam Carolla
Well, you're in more danger sitting there at 4am waiting to be carjacked than you are going through. No, it's true. So people won't do it, but they won't do it for psychological reasons, I would argue.
Dana Gould
Yeah, I agree. It's sort of like it's antithetical behavior.
Adam Carolla
Also, from a societal standpoint, you get judged. Meaning when you're doing 85 on the 15 on the way to Vegas, it's you and a thousand other criminals doing 85 on the way to Vegas.
Dana Gould
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
When you go through the red light, you're on your own.
Dana Gould
Yeah. You're on your own.
Adam Carolla
And people behind you, which has happened to me a few times. I do. Like, this guy will honk.
Dana Gould
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
Like, hey, what's going on? And I was like that. Like what you do get out of the car and circle back. Just. I went through the red light. I did it. Yeah, you made your disapproval, this action audibly visible by just pushing on your horn. But so now I've Realized that after over 20 years of driving through left turn arrows, which I've never understood. When the signal's green, why is this red? And there's no cars coming. So I'm just gonna turn left like you, literally. You can do an experiment.
Dana Gould
Yeah, that is a strange one.
Adam Carolla
Put your sun visor down and you block that out. And you block it out. Now you're sitting, there's a green light and there's no cars coming. You would just drive, which I do. I've never gotten a ticket. I tell everyone to do it. You won't get a ticket because they're not looking for you. And it doesn't look like anything. Right. I've done it and had cops coming up the other direction, but it still doesn't look like anything to them.
Dana Gould
Yeah. And it also depends on whether or not the cop is bored or if it's close to the end of the month and they need to make a.
Adam Carolla
Ticket quota if it's that time of the month. Always bring that up when a cop pulls you over. Is it that time of the month?
Dana Gould
But there is, you know, around the 27th, they start to be like, oh, I gotta get, I gotta write some goddamn tickets.
Adam Carolla
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Dana Gould
Cops are like cats. Nothing is stronger than their urine.
Adam Carolla
So I then drive through. I've now expanded my repertoire to driving through red turn red lights. When it's safe, I shop. I look the right, I look to the left, I treat it like a four way stop sign, like there's nothing here. Have you been stopped yet for it? Never.
Dana Gould
Never?
Adam Carolla
Well, how could anyone stop me? Because I look in my rear view and I don't see anything behind me. Then I look forward and there's nothing forward. And then there's nothing on any street right or left. So where would the ticket come from? I mean, it'd have to be like a citizen's arrest or something.
Dana Gould
I had a. I had a friend of mine, Jim DeCrotto, driving down. He's driving home from a gig in New Hampshire. It's 2 in the morning. It's late January. It's just black as pitch. He's in the middle of New Hampshire and he exits the freeway and there's a cop comes out of nowhere, pulls him over, gives him a ticket because he failed to signal.
Adam Carolla
Wow. With nobody who could have seen the signal.
Dana Gould
Three in the morning. Three in the morning. He fought it.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
And he drove to New Hampshire to fight it.
Adam Carolla
Sure.
Dana Gould
He was indignant.
Adam Carolla
Sure.
Dana Gould
And the judge threw it out and told the cop, you're just wasting time.
Adam Carolla
Wow.
Dana Gould
Which is rare.
Adam Carolla
One of the good ones.
Dana Gould
Yeah. Yeah.
Adam Carolla
So you will never get a ticket for this because there will never be a cop hiding at a signal looking to hand out tickets if Adam Caroll is the only one who does it. Now there are cops that hide by the four way stop sign intersection 200 yards from here. And everyone who's worked here has gotten a ticket for rolling through that because everyone rolls through four ways and everyone speeds on the way to Vegas. Right. But Carolla's the only one who goes through signals. And so there's no money in it for them. And I figured that out. But I also realize there's a strong psychological deterrent, like you literally driving through a red. And it's really the witnesses, it's your fellow citizens who are all behind you, watching you engage in this outlaw behavior. But here's an interesting thought experiment. Two days ago I was gonna do it. I was about to do it again and I looked around as per usual for the cops and there's no cops. Now the cops are up and down PCH riding. They're having a ticket riding party up and down PCH because the construction zone is 25 miles an hour and everyone's going 40.
Dana Gould
Oh my God. And that's so. I didn't even think about this. It's weird because I was on the PCH last night for the first time in like a hundred years. Went to the Golden Bull.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah. Steakhouse.
Dana Gould
Steakhouse.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Yeah. Wait, you went from. But you went from like the Santa Monica direction.
Dana Gould
I came up. Yeah. Came up in the 10.
Adam Carolla
Right. But you didn't get into the meat of BCH.
Dana Gould
No, I didn't. And I didn't get up by the Palisades.
Adam Carolla
But.
Dana Gould
But that's. I'm assuming. But down is now with the, with all of the construction in the deeper.
Adam Carolla
Malibu as you head toward Pepperdine Point Doom. And that's where it all shuts down.
Dana Gould
Yeah. I was going to say I haven't been up there, but I imagine it's just insane.
Adam Carolla
25 and now the 405 is.
Dana Gould
They shut down two lanes.
Adam Carolla
I've told people I ride a unicycle. Riding.
Dana Gould
What?
Adam Carolla
Going 25 miles an hour in a modern car. Feel it's difficult.
Dana Gould
Yeah, no, it is.
Adam Carolla
It's hard to do. Like I'm saying, like it's like me riding my unicycle at one mile an hour. It's like I feel like I want to fall over in my car.
Dana Gould
Right.
Adam Carolla
So continue. Sorry.
Dana Gould
Oh, no, I was just. I was just saying that I was there last night and I can't imagine what it is like up there now with all of the construction from the fires.
Adam Carolla
It must just be pulling everyone over. And so what I do. And they are parked.
Dana Gould
They need money.
Adam Carolla
They're parked all up and down PCH and they got their radar guns out. And Anyone who's doing 35 or above is getting pulled over. Saw a guy, by the way. I always feel bad when I see the shitty car pulled over with the Mexican guy driving. It's like that fucking guy works tobacco and he's gonna be up at Pepperdine working whatever. And that guy just got a $281 ticket. And that's very on brand.
Dana Gould
It certainly is.
Adam Carolla
So I realized that this stretch of highway is littered with cops riding tickets. But they're all looking for people speeding, not for driving through the red. So I drive through the red. But I had a moral conundrum. I paused for a moment because I pulled up to the red and I was looked right, looked left, looked for cops, and was about to drive through it and noticed a fire truck parked right next to me, directly to my left. There's a full size fire truck with the guys hanging off the back and everything. And it's now I'm thinking to myself, I gotta make a decision. I want to go through this red light. But there is a form of authority that's here.
Dana Gould
But you can't. Yeah, yeah. You can't get pulled over by a fire truck.
Adam Carolla
No, but you have to understand a lot of different scenarios fly through your head when you're getting ready to pull a caper off like this, you know? And so I knew they can't pull me over. But I'm also aware that they have a radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's another cop 200 yards up the road with a radar gun. And they could be. Put it on a dispatch. You're some asshole. And the Mazdas just rode through whatever. So that ran through my. So I just looked at the fire truck, which I was right next to, and looked around and went, oh, no, I'm sticking with my mission. And I drove through it and I got about halfway into the intersection and the fire truck gave me the blast on the air horn, gave me the full boom. And I was like frightened for a second. Shamed momentarily because.
Dana Gould
Which was their intention.
Adam Carolla
Right. Because my relationship with the cops is like, I gotta beat these guys at their own game. Fireman, that's my friend, you know, Like, I felt sad that I disappointed my hero friend. You know what I mean? He gave Me a big air horn, big semi truck.
Dana Gould
That's when I do the intentional misunderstanding, the thumbs up. Thanks, buddy.
Adam Carolla
He's a Mazda, man.
Dana Gould
We're both rebels. So I hate red lights and you hate fire.
Adam Carolla
So I realized he was doing what other people behind me do, which is there's really nothing they can do other than voice. Well, they're the Italian waiter going, who they can't do anything about it, but they can let you know the way they feel about what you're doing. Ooh, Find that scene. Find the scene.
Dana Gould
Oh, I know this. I know this.
Adam Carolla
I know. Just for the listeners though, Albert Brooks goes in to have the Italian food where you can eat as much pasta as you want.
Dana Gould
I have two photos that I need to send to show to you. I don't know who I should send to to post, but I'm gonna right here. I was just in Chicago at wgn and what they have at WGN is they've preserved Bozo's original dressing room.
Adam Carolla
Wow.
Dana Gould
And that, my friend, is Bozo's Toilet.
Adam Carolla
Wow, that is amazing. Although I would argue that's greatest name.
Dana Gould
For a punk band ever, by the way.
Adam Carolla
Bozo's Toilet. I know, I don't. Well, maybe this. Yeah, that's old school, man. When they would do them, they do a wall mount.
Dana Gould
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
So now I don't know how you feel. We're looking at Bozo street clothes. Wow.
Dana Gould
It's the theory being my friend Eddie Gorodetsky said.
Adam Carolla
Eddie Gordesky, best punch up guy in the business.
Dana Gould
There's only one show business Bozo. Daniel Day Lewis and Ginger Lynn Allen all know what it's like to sit in that room and wait around.
Adam Carolla
Yes, yes. Porn star Ginger Lynn. Yeah. Here's another thing I realized.
Dana Gould
That's the level of the porn stars that I know seven generations back.
Adam Carolla
I think, I think the problem with a lot of people in their law enforcement relationship is they have a inverted sort of backwards relationship, which is if you're gonna break the law because you're trying to arrive faster at the place you're going to, you should join me and drive through red lights. But going 85 on the 15 will get you a ticket. It and, and so. But we're, we do the opposite. Right.
Dana Gould
And I also think there's a safety issue. If the roads are clear and you run a red light, you are breaking the law, but you are not putting anyone at risk.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
If you are speeding on a highway, you are ostensibly putting people at risk.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. You can get a blowout and roll over and everything else. All right, so here's the other thing that people have an inverted relationship with. And it just shows that we don't really think clearly. It's like human beings. If you're doing really. I hope you're sitting. Dana, what if you are doing the 85 on the 15 on the way to Vegas? And I was behind a lot of these people, at some point, invariably you'll see a cop has pulled someone over and they got one of us who are doing 85 and they're off on the side of the road and the cop's out of the car and he's talking through the passenger side window. And that citizen is getting a ticket, Right? So we're sheep, and we're sheep that are running to Vegas and we're hoping not to get picked off by wolves. Essentially, when people pass the cop car that is riding the ticket, they slow down every time.
Dana Gould
Yes. I am one of those people.
Adam Carolla
Everyone does it.
Dana Gould
Like the cop is going to throw the ticket on the car. I got to get this guy.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, like it's Hooper and you're Burt Reynolds.
Dana Gould
You know what your factor, what you need to not factor into is also when that happens, you have to factor in the time that the cop throws his hat down on the ground, jumps up and down on it, right. Then runs in the.
Adam Carolla
Right. And so that does happen in Hal Needham movies. But that's because a Lamborghini Countach pulled over, right? And then Daisy Duke hung Susan Anton, hung her head out the passenger one and shoved her tits against the window. And then they did a burnout with a Brody and took off. That's when the cop jumps back on the motorcycle and chases you. But not when you're just going 85 past them and his back has turned to you.
Dana Gould
Now, you know that Brad Pitt is playing Hal Needham in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Adam Carolla
Oh, I guess Burt Reynolds and Hal.
Dana Gould
Needham rented a house near Sharon Tate.
Adam Carolla
No.
Dana Gould
Yes.
Adam Carolla
So that was stuntman director Hal Needham.
Dana Gould
And who directed was it 1980 movie?
Adam Carolla
It was like Cannonball Run.
Dana Gould
But he directed this movie with Barry Bostwick.
Adam Carolla
It was like, oh, wow.
Dana Gould
From 1980. That was like a crazy great science fiction movie. I have become friends with Mr. Bostwick recently, and he's the greatest guy ever.
Adam Carolla
I felt bad because I asked his wife out many years ago.
Dana Gould
He's great. He's great. I have a.
Adam Carolla
You know, it's just she's still married to Stacy. I could ask something.
Dana Gould
I could ask. I have A weird story about the 15 that goes back to the very first thing that we were talking about.
Adam Carolla
I want to hear it. I just want to say just pin it. When the cop is pulling that person over and writing them a ticket, that's your opportunity to step on it, not to slow down and have that cop catch back up to you when you've now felt safe 20 minutes later and you're back up to 85. Yeah. Because what everyone does is they see the cop, they slow down to 60, they go past Scott, they feel that way for a half hour, and then at some point, they feel some illusion of safety or impunity, and then they pump it back up to 85. And by that time, the cops caught back up and is writing you the ticket. So I'm like. It's an inverted, weird emotional relationship. Do not slow down. Make a run for it now. 15. Go ahead.
Dana Gould
So this was.
Adam Carolla
Hold on. We have the restaurant scene. Megaforce.
Dana Gould
Megaforce. That's it.
Adam Carolla
We have the scene where Albert Brooks is ordering. All right, so we'll play it. Here we are. Oh, you're going to love this. Ooh. And you are going to love this. Oh, there's 30 shrimp in there. And there's 30 more where that came from. Wow.
Dana Gould
This looks delicious.
Adam Carolla
Whoa. You like broccoli? Yes. You like it with a lot of cheese? Yes, my girl. You can never get maybe just a touch. You got it. That's fine. How many days you looking at, huh? Nine. Ooh, you like a pie? I love pie. I like you. I want to bring you nine pies to take with you. A pie for every day.
Dana Gould
I don't want to take any piece.
Adam Carolla
It's my pleasure.
Dana Gould
Don't worry about it.
Adam Carolla
They're cute. Don't do it. All right, that's good. It's a great piece of writing because there's no line. There's just a noise.
Dana Gould
Every Albert Brooks movie has these one or two scenes that are just so iconic in modern romance. It's when he takes a Quaalude and he's talking to his bird about his girlfriend and he's just. It's just a. It's a locked off shot. One shot of him just being. And talking to the bird Petey, and he's going through his Rolodex. Petey Allen. I'm gonna call Ellen. And then in Lost in America, it's when he sits down with Garry Marshall to get his money back from the.
Adam Carolla
Casino, from the desert in his heart. Yeah, the desert in his heart that separates you.
Dana Gould
From other schmucks that come here to see Wayne Newton.
Adam Carolla
What? I like Wayne Newton.
Dana Gould
I'm a schmuck.
Adam Carolla
I like.
Dana Gould
No, and then he goes, like, again, that little thing. He goes, what? I like. Wait, what? I'm a schmuck. I like Wayne Newton. I'm a schmuck. And Albert goes, oh, no.
Adam Carolla
I love when he. I don't know why, but I love when. I love when he goes into the unemployment office and he's like, do you have any jobs? We got crossing guard. We got fast food shops. What kind of. What you want? Well, with bonuses probably over 100,000. Do you have a hundred thousand dollar box to look through? And the guy's like, what kind of box would that like? He's really talking about a box. Oh, it's great.
Dana Gould
What's also great about that clip is it was as funny as you thought. Because often, like, I'll think of a scene in the movie and then I'll go, like, you've got to see this. It's so fun. And then you play it, and it's not nearly as funny as your retelling of it because you played it your mind.
Adam Carolla
Yes. Yeah. All right, so Hal Needham, 15, Brad Pitt. Did Hal Needham get accused of killing his wife?
Dana Gould
I don't know. I don't know what that's from. I don't know. I don't think so. But I do think that that is something else. I do think that that is something else.
Adam Carolla
A story that got combined. Hal Needham is a famous stuntman who started Stunts Unlimited, who hooked up with Burt Reynolds in the halcyon days of Cannonball Run.
Dana Gould
Hooper.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
All the stroker ace.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And the stuff that had, like, loosely scripted, lots of improvisation. Let Bert be Burt. You know what I mean? Like, you're thinking of that. I was just thinking the other day, I was trying to explain to my son, like, I forced my son to watch Smoking the Bandit the other day. And we watch Gumball Rally, and we watch Cannonball Run 2. We're Car Week at Monterey. We're watching these movies.
Dana Gould
Gumball Rally is the Cannonball Run before Cannonball Run. Peter Sarazin.
Adam Carolla
Yes. But how do you do scenes like in Smoking the Bandit, he outruns the cops, spins around on a park ground, stops at a sign at night, waiting for the cops to go by, and at some point slowly turns and just flashes the camera. He just. Burt Reynolds looks at the camera, gives a great smile, and then takes off. And you're like, is that in the script? And by the way, we didn't break the fourth wall down or the third wall down anywhere. But. But why. And why is it in there? And why does it work? But it does.
Dana Gould
Yep. It's amazing.
Adam Carolla
No, it's Bert being Burt at the.
Dana Gould
Height of Burt's power and. Yeah. And that's. I think Eddie Murphy does that in Beverly Hills Cop at one point.
Adam Carolla
Oh, really?
Dana Gould
He just looks at the. No. Trading Places. It was like his second movie. He was so big. And they say. And he just does a quick look to the camera, and it's like. And that's just. That's a star with a relationship, with an audience.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Burt didn't even do a quick look. He didn't slow turn. Looked right down the lens, smiled, and then we went right back to his reality, which is he's driving a decoy car for a truck driver to get Coors. Whatever.
Dana Gould
Yep, Yep. That's crazy.
Adam Carolla
It's crazy. Okay, then this is Car Weekend in the Airbnb, where I forced Sonny to watch everything. We then watched Phantom of the Paradise.
Dana Gould
Oh, God. I just saw that movie. You and I. I just showed that movie at the. At the Glendale. This Glendale cinema.
Adam Carolla
I saw Phantom of the paradise nine days ago. Can you beat that?
Dana Gould
I saw about a month ago for the first time.
Adam Carolla
For the first time.
Dana Gould
For the first time.
Adam Carolla
I then had to explain to Sonny that Paul Williams from that movie was Little Enos from the next movie we're about to see. And then I explained. No bigger chasm in roles than that.
Dana Gould
And he also was Virgil in Battle for the Planet of the Apes, and he went on the Tonight show in full Planet of the Apes makeup. And that clip is often confused with Dr. Z to bring full circle.
Adam Carolla
So.
Dana Gould
And I saw him once.
Adam Carolla
You saw. First off, you saw Phantom of the paradise for the first time.
Dana Gould
First time, yeah. It's one of those weird movies.
Adam Carolla
That's insane. It's a weird movie.
Dana Gould
What's the name of the guy? The guy that they get to play the lead in the show?
Adam Carolla
That was Brian De Palma's, like, roommate, friend guy.
Dana Gould
The character's name Rocky or something.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
I'm confusing it with Rocky Horror starring Barry Bostwick, but it's. That guy's so great that it kind of has kisses in it, but they couldn't get kiss.
Adam Carolla
It's a. It's a movie that'll make you feel high. And it's also one of those 70s movies where, like, how much cocaine were they doing? Yeah, it's like, well, you want to know how much cocaine they were doing. Watch this, Watch this movie. Right? That's how much coke they were doing. Absolutely. But with also, like some veins of brilliance in it.
Dana Gould
Sure.
Adam Carolla
I mean, and like really creative. And the songs were good.
Dana Gould
What we call a big swing. Yeah, it was what we call a big swing.
Adam Carolla
And also, Paul Williams when he was 32 looked exactly like Jody Foster when she was 9.
Dana Gould
Yes. And you know what he is now? He's the president of ascap.
Adam Carolla
Paul Williams.
Dana Gould
Paul Williams.
Adam Carolla
Well, he's written enough hits.
Dana Gould
He's a big dude. He's a big, important dude, huh? In his 80s and great.
Adam Carolla
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Adam Carolla
Today.
Dana Gould
I saw. I was doing a show at Largo with our friend Wayne Fetterman. I was in Dr. Z makeup, and he walked down the hard corridor.
Adam Carolla
Paul. Paul.
Dana Gould
And I was expecting him to go like, oh, my God. I. You know. And without breaking stride, he just went very hard to do cocaine in that.
Adam Carolla
Well, we have Eddie Murphy flashing the camera.
Dana Gould
Yeah. In Trading Places.
Adam Carolla
In Trading Places from the summer I.
Dana Gould
Bagged groceries at the Hyannis Stop and.
Adam Carolla
Shop and was on HBO's Young Comedians College Special.
Dana Gould
Campus comedy. And if that ever surfaces, I am a dead man.
Adam Carolla
See, I watched this movie and I didn't remember this part.
Dana Gould
Commodities brokers, William.
Adam Carolla
Now, what are commodities? Commodities are agricultural products like coffee that you had for breakfast. Wheat, which is used to make bread.
Dana Gould
Pork bellies, which is used to make.
Adam Carolla
Bacon, which you might find in a bacon and lettuce and tomato sandwich. Yeah, there it is. He did it, by the way.
Dana Gould
He's probably 20 years old in that.
Adam Carolla
When you hit the H in wheat, you're either really rich or really poor. You know what I mean? It's like, it's a rich guy thing and a bumpkin thing. It's not like a middle class from Sherman Oaks thing.
Dana Gould
Oh, I need to tell you. Can I tell you a 62nd 15 story?
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I want to hear that. Yeah.
Dana Gould
Okay.
Adam Carolla
So I have 15 highway.
Dana Gould
Highway 15. I'm now a writer on the Simpsons and all my, you know. And I'm still doing stand up comedy. Not that much because I'm a writer in the Simpsons.
Adam Carolla
What year is this?
Dana Gould
This is probably 2001 or 2.
Adam Carolla
Okay.
Dana Gould
And I don't know if I had a baby yet. I might have had a baby already, but I'm like, I'm a grown up now.
Adam Carolla
Dana adopted babies. So that's why he doesn't know.
Dana Gould
Yeah. I'm not. Well, I'm not. I'm not sure the year. I don't know. What if we already had the babies?
Adam Carolla
That's what I'm saying. People might be listening, going, you don't know how if he had a son or not?
Dana Gould
No, I didn't. No. I don't know what year it was. It might have been before. Yeah, maybe you're not. They're all still Alive.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Dana Gould
So I'm driving to Vegas with George Meyer, who is Simpsons writer. And nine out of ten of the lines you remember from the Simpsons are written by George. Yeah, he's just a freakish machine.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Dana Gould
And he's tall, lanky guy with a beard and wore a bucket hat all the time. You've seen him on the Simpsons. On the Poochie episode, you see George as a character.
Adam Carolla
Who's the Simpson writer who was writing for Lionel Hutz, the lawyer, when he was babysitting and, like, LA Law came on and he goes, this is so fake. Look at that guy. He's got a bell.
Dana Gould
That sounds like a George. I'm like, my cat's breath smells like cat food. That's George. So we're driving to Vegas, and there's all of these. For some reason, we went through a giant patch of roadkill. Like, a crazy patch of roadkill. And it's just quiet. And Georgia says we should pull over and put little suicide notes in their hands. And then he just goes. Life in the wild has become too much to my children. I leave my succulent innards. And then, like, I'm pissing myself laughing. And it's just like that, you know? Not the constant stream of stuff like a standup would do. Just like, boom, sniper.
Adam Carolla
Right, right.
Dana Gould
Then we get to. What's that city outside of Vegas that you hit first?
Adam Carolla
Well, there's Baker.
Dana Gould
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
That's where the thermometer is. And the bun boy is.
Dana Gould
Yeah, the little casino. The little with casinos.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, there's.
Dana Gould
There.
Adam Carolla
There was Whiskey Pete's. That was right there. Like, there's a bunch of stuff right at the border.
Dana Gould
Right at the border. So this. We're right at the border, and there's a billboard that says, $99. All you can eat shrimp buffet. And George just goes, had it up to here with $2. All you can eat shrimp buffets. And I'm just pissing myself. So then we get to Vegas, and we're checking into our hotel, and it's the week of the CES convention.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Consumer Electronics.
Dana Gould
Consumer Electronic Show. Also porn awards. Bobby Slayton is hosting the porn awards.
Adam Carolla
The pit bull of comedy.
Dana Gould
The pit bull of comedy. Your friend and mine, Bobby Slayton.
Adam Carolla
Bobby Slayton.
Dana Gould
And we're checking in, and there's. Bobby. Hey, Bobby. Hey. And then. And he turns around. He's, you know, he's surrounded by porn stars. He's working. He's firing on all cylinders.
Adam Carolla
Bobby Slayton, Right.
Dana Gould
Yeah. And he turns around and he just sees Joey has no idea who George is. But he's like, hey, Gilligan, what do you do? Because he's got a bucket head on. Hey, Gilligan, what's this? Who are you living with? The Skipper this weekend? But I was sitting there, it was like, this is both of my careers in front of me. Bobby, who's just like on all cylinders. Everybody knows him, he's firing on all cylinders. And then George, who is funnier than any stand up, as funny or funnier than any stand up comedian I've ever met. And he's just laughing like, having a great time, loves Bobby. Bobby has no idea that this guy is a thermonuclear comedy weapon. And I was like, those are my two careers.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, right here. Yeah.
Dana Gould
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
And that's good.
Dana Gould
Yeah. And it was. No, it was just. It was really, really interesting. And then I, you know, I was George for a long time.
Adam Carolla
It struck me I just drove home from Vegas yesterday, actually. And I'm not crapping on Bobby, by the way. No, I know.
Dana Gould
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
I love Bobby.
Dana Gould
The big fan of the Creature from the Black Lagoon, Bobby Slayton.
Adam Carolla
The. The thing I realize about the drive to Vegas is when buildings are abandoned and there's something. There's an abandoned roller coaster on the ride there, which is sort of in the horror movies. When he heard the slowed down children's nursery song and the ball bouncing alone out of the street. La la la la la la la. The swing with nobody on it swinging back and forth like the band in.
Dana Gould
A George Meyer joke in a Simpsons that I wrote where Lisa walks through the playground and for no reason a wind comes and the swing starts going and you just hear ring around and Lisa literally does it take to the camera and just keeps walking.
Adam Carolla
She flashed the camera like Eddie.
Dana Gould
Yeah, she just does. It's a weird kismet.
Adam Carolla
She's so. But I realized. So the abandoned roller coaster's a real sad tableau. But I also realized that the desert. And as you go to Vegas, you'll see some abandoned trailers, abandoned drive in movie screens. Right. There's abandoned stuff, cinder block. And by the way, it's never reclaimed by nature. The jungle reclaims things.
Dana Gould
But it's in the desert.
Adam Carolla
And the sea doesn't give up her dead. I don't know if you're aware of that. Oh, I am. But the jungle, the places that get abandoned where it's lush end up getting reclaimed. And it's not really that depressing because they just grown over. Yeah.
Dana Gould
And it's fascinating, but the desert is.
Adam Carolla
Super Depressing because it's just cinder block that never goes away. And it's a hundred yards off the side of the freeway and no one's done any business there since 1972. It used to be a park. There was fun to be had there. There's some remnants of something.
Dana Gould
I have a book of photos of those things that are mostly shot at night, that are lit kind of cool, but they're just like abandoned gas station. Dead gas stations.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Dana Gould
And I. I do love, like, I'm fascinated by time and the. And the progress of time and going in. I mean, that to me was the fascinating thing about going into Bozo's dressing room was like this. This is what this looked like in 1964.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Dana Gould
This toilet was used in 1964. This is what those people used.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Dana Gould
I just think that's fascinating. I just. I can't get enough of that.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I'll. Yeah.
Dana Gould
You think going back in time would be fun and then you have to deal with LAX and like. No, it was terrible.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I agree. I just. There's something about the desert scape when it's abandoned that I find much more depressing and impactful than the lush ones, you know, or like.
Dana Gould
I don't find it depressing. I find it kind of romantic. And there's an. There's an here. You'll understand what I'm saying. There's an art bell ness to it.
Adam Carolla
From the Isle of Nye. Where was he from?
Dana Gould
Yeah, from the high desert in the great American Southwest.
Adam Carolla
I think what it is. I think what it is for me is I grew up in the Valley and I grew up in sort of shacks that were minus insulation.
Dana Gould
No. Yeah. You have an adolescent relationship with cinder block. I grew up in an old house in New England, so.
Adam Carolla
I have a greater relationship with heat. And I grew up in a room that was built on a service porch. And if you looked up, you just see the two by four ceiling joists and then just the plywood, the bottom of the plywood. If you live in a room where you look up and you see plywood, that's not good. That means no insulation and no drywall. And it would just whatever the temperature was outside. Like, you know, on a really hot day when you're in your house and then you go into your garage and it's like, wow, it's hot today.
Dana Gould
Yeah. Jesus Christ.
Adam Carolla
All right, now if you slept in that garage. Which I did.
Dana Gould
Oh, God.
Adam Carolla
Which didn't have air conditioning, then you have this weird relationship with heat and when you hear heat, it's so funny. Once you get this weird heat relationship going. I got a massage. I went to Vegas. I saw the Backstreet Boys. Yeah. I've seen. My last three concerts have been the Backstreet Boys, New Kids on the Block, and Paula Abdul. And people say, well, that sounds depressing. And I say, no, that means I have a young girlfriend. Yeah, I was gonna say, that's a good thing.
Dana Gould
Or, yeah, I was gonna say, you're rediscovering your young woman.
Adam Carolla
But later on, the thing that's funny is on the ride home, we're listening to the 70s channel.
Dana Gould
Sure.
Adam Carolla
And Dickey Goodman's Mr. Jaws popped up. And I had to explain to her what this was.
Dana Gould
Oh, fantastic.
Adam Carolla
Because it's like, that shit doesn't make sense.
Dana Gould
Not at all.
Adam Carolla
That was a top 10 hit.
Dana Gould
Did they use on. They used existing songs on Mr. Jaws. Correct again.
Adam Carolla
We go, Mr. Jaws. What did you say to the lady who you bit? What did she say to you? Mr. Jaws. Please, mister, please.
Dana Gould
Right.
Adam Carolla
Don't make me. Oh. And it's like, oh.
Dana Gould
Everybody had Mr. Jaws. We go back to Albert Brooks, who, on his album A Star Is Bought, did a parody of those. This is how fine. Albert Brooks did a parody of those records on his album A Star Is Bought. But he said, we couldn't get the rights to all of these songs. It was so expensive. So I wrote my own songs.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
Here it goes. It's the party from outer space. Excuse me, are you Lassie? No, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry.
Adam Carolla
People. People don't realize that there was a top 10 hit, a clumsily recorded.
Dana Gould
Yeah, we should play a clip of it. Cause it's so not good.
Adam Carolla
It's also a weird thing when he. At some point, he gets to Quint, the captain, and he goes, captain. What was it like with the. And then a woman's voice, like Cher. They do like a Cher song. And it's like. Well, that's not his gender. You'd have to get a. Yeah, who are you?
Dana Gould
Who was on the boat with you? Gypsies, tramps and thieves.
Adam Carolla
Right, right.
Dana Gould
Well, that sounds like. That's not good shark hunting.
Adam Carolla
Young people don't know what we're talking about. It's a guy named Dickie Goodman, Novelty Records, who was making. Doing this thing called Mr. Jaws. And then they'd play clips from.
Dana Gould
Right. It was actually.
Adam Carolla
It was.
Dana Gould
I think they started doing them in the 50s. And he had like a re. Like a. He had a big hit with it in 1975 with Jaws.
Adam Carolla
Are we allowed to play this, though?
Dana Gould
I'm sure you can play like this. We'll probably get flagged on YouTube.
Adam Carolla
All right. We'll forget.
Dana Gould
But yeah, you gotta go on YouTube and listen to it.
Adam Carolla
It's horrible. It's horrible. It's also weird trying to explain to a young person who's used to the backstage.
Dana Gould
Do you remember the big hit of 1975? Do you remember what the big hit was?
Adam Carolla
No.
Dana Gould
Skyrockets in Flight, Afternoon Delight by the Starland Vocal Band.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I was listening to that on the way home from the car race on the weekend, and it was playing and I just said to my son and buckle up, because this song has an ending. It's not Rod Stewart's Passion. Even the president needs passion. Everyone needs passion. You know, there's song. This song ends, right?
Dana Gould
And also Benny and the jets was that summer.
Adam Carolla
I file Benny and the jets under the category of I never have to hear the song ever again. I'm not even calling it a bad song. I just don't want to hear it. I don't know. I wouldn't want to hear it again.
Dana Gould
Have you ever seen Speaking. I love songs of that button ending. I can swear on this now. Where are you now on this?
Adam Carolla
What?
Dana Gould
Cursing.
Adam Carolla
Go ahead.
Dana Gould
Okay. It's not even a bad curse, But I wasn't sure John Paragon, who wrote was John B. The Genie on Pee Wee's Playhouse.
Adam Carolla
Oh, really?
Dana Gould
Was a Groundlings guy. Wrote all the Elvira Mistress of the Dark shows. He had a comedy special, a Showtime comedy experiment called the Paragon of Comedy. John's really brilliant. He passed and he had a Broadway number, a Broadway show called Tits.
Adam Carolla
Like Tits.
Dana Gould
I'm crazy about tits.
Adam Carolla
Like a couple peach pits in a bowl.
Dana Gould
And it's really. And the very end of it is we might as well just call it quits. Tits like it's a great end of Broadway.
Adam Carolla
I like an ending, too. I don't like when it just fades and fades and sort of pots down and drifts away.
Dana Gould
A day in the life, 45 seconds of right.
Adam Carolla
All right, let me ask you this now. Who are these people? Back to the road, which is sitting in traffic. Driving here the other day. I passed. Now we're on the 134 and we're going 11 miles an hour, give or take. Just crawling on in like you do in la. And there's a guy in a motorcycle and he's dressed 100% in black, which is always a weird thing, including if you're not a cop. Yeah. Including a black helmet and then including a flat black helmet, which is like, this is the, the best way to not be seen is to have a flat. And it's also at the time, at the time it's 109 degrees in LA and you're wearing a flat black helmet, which is. Your brain is cooking in this.
Dana Gould
You're sucking in heat, right?
Adam Carolla
So this guy's on a full black Harley and full. I mean, he's made a decision. He's going, you know, stealth, Johnny Cash, tough guy, whatever. But he's full black on a full black bike. And he's. He's splitting the lanes and he's splitting the lanes at about three times, whatever it is. We're traveling speed wise. So we're going 10 miles an hour and he's going 30 miles an hour, which is fine. I used to ride a bike. I've had a lot of them. I used to do it in LA all the time at split lanes all the time. But I also knew that when people were crawling in traffic, and this is pre cell phone when I did it. Now, people, when they almost come to a stop, they check their fucking stock ticker.
Dana Gould
Yeah. One thing that is now universal is when the light turns green, you have to beep, right? Because the person in front of you is on their phone, Right?
Adam Carolla
But not me. I've already.
Dana Gould
You've already gone.
Adam Carolla
I've gone through the rail.
Dana Gould
You're four streets.
Adam Carolla
So this guy is splitting the lanes. He's going 30, 32, 33. We're going 9, 10, 11 miles an hour, creeping along. And I have hypervigilance. So I see the guy in my rear view, but just last minute, like, I see him 20ft behind me coming up fast. Just movement in the mirror. And I sort of look and I don't do anything. I'm fine. And he just goes right by another guy, doesn't really see him. And he doesn't cut him off or make a move, but he's a little closer than he want. And as the guy passes that guy, he slides in in front of him and does a full back crank turn with the hand out, by the way, the clutch hand out, not the throttle hand. And he does a full. Like, what the fuck? And I thought, first things. I'm always curious at people who sort of go through life sort of half cocked that way, like, who just do it, you know, like they're right there. Like, I was talking the other week about the Cincinnati street ball street brawl break, you know, and at some point I'm not that interested in the dude who's getting the shit kicked out and the other dude who smacked him, whatever. I'm interested in the 23 year old chick who happened upon it and starts trying to kick the guy. Like you were just leaving the Circle K, walking home and you saw someone on the ground and you just had to get a couple kicks in. Yeah, like I'm much more interested in that person. This guy's just splitting lanes, people are crawling and he's going past them three times the speed they're. And he's dressed in all black and somebody didn't see him, which you would have to expect. Nobody's going to see you because of the rate you're traveling and how you've chosen to dress. And then has to slow down in front of the guy and do a full half back turn to put his arm off his handlebars.
Dana Gould
Right.
Adam Carolla
And give him a dressing down, a physical dressing down. Somehow this person who's never met before, who could be on the way to pick up his child from the leukemia treatment they were getting down at the children's hospital in la. Right. Who is that person? And then, what do they expect?
Dana Gould
Now, my thing, they are a narcissist because they. Yeah, it's not about traffic, is not about you.
Adam Carolla
I drove a Ninja 600. I had two Ninja 600s. I grew up in LA. I ran them and I ran. I would go past everyone, right to the front of the line, you know, I'd split the. I'd do everything a guy who didn't care would do on a ninja 600 who also was good on a ninja 600. I assumed nobody ever saw me and I did it for self preservation. Right. I don't expect you to see me coming up. I'm looking at you, you're not looking at me. I'm traveling twice the speed, three times the rate you're traveling. But I also didn't dress all in black and have a black ninja. So what is this person's expectation level is what I'm saying.
Dana Gould
Yeah, well, I.
Adam Carolla
And you're right with the narcissism. It's gotta be.
Dana Gould
It's gotta be. Yeah, yeah. And that's the thing. It's not, it's not a choice. They don't. It's not that they only think of themselves, it's that they don't realize that other people are a thing.
Adam Carolla
Right.
Dana Gould
You know?
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Yes. They don't exist.
Dana Gould
Yeah. They don't get it.
Adam Carolla
They don't they don't exist unless they block them in traffic. And then they do exist. And then they need their.
Dana Gould
Yeah. And then they don't understand why aren't you? Why don't you know what I'm doing?
Adam Carolla
Why are you?
Dana Gould
Why are you.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's a narcissist.
Dana Gould
It is an optimism.
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Dana Gould
When I do a weird thing is I years ago get in this thing where I am excessively polite in traffic and that I wanted to. I made a conscious decision to lower my internal motor and just like I wave everybody through, I let everybody go. I wave. And what it does is it engenders, you know, you get people that thank you. And then it just becomes pleasant. You feel good and you feel good about your fellow human being. And I have found again, like 90% of people are great. They go, oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. And then this person that. Who's that asshole? Oh, great. Everybody's good when I do it. The people that drive and don't acknowledge it. Then I. Livid.
Adam Carolla
I am, too.
Dana Gould
It's like, excuse me, you know, more livid.
Adam Carolla
I'll tell you who, I get more angry. I have more ire toward these people in our society. And it's these people, which is. It's not the people that don't engage in this or the hospitality or, you know, it's not reciprocal or whatever it is. It's the people who make excuses for them, which I don't like. It happens a lot. Like, if you're walking and. And you're walking with your girlfriend, your wife, whoever, and you're walking and some other guys.
Dana Gould
Which one?
Adam Carolla
Both of them. You're having a very uncomfortable walk. Well, I know it's your girlfriend now you're married. Right. You're walking and then somebody's coming the other direction on the sidewalk. And as they pass you, you go, good evening, or, how you doing? Or whatever. You just give a sort of wave or something, and they just keep looking down and walk past you. Right. And then you go, what's up with people? I don't get it. Like, you pass this person and you just said hi, and they literally were motionless, and they just walked past. They didn't have earbuds and they heard you, whatever. Then you go, what's up? And then the person you're walking with goes, maybe you caught him off guard. And I go, okay, two things. One, what do you mean, off guard? You don't have a what's up? You know, sort of chamber. Just like when you pass someone on the sidewalk, get caught off guard. But then secondly, when did you become their attorney? The stranger who didn't say hi. Why are you on their side? Do you know what I mean? Why are you arguing for them? I've done that a lot where you just go, well, maybe they were there. Maybe they were running late. Maybe there's. And then at some point you go, I don't know why you're arguing hard for the person that just didn't say hi.
Dana Gould
But also, why other side of the. I have people I call other side of the coin.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Dana Gould
So, you know, it's like, well, you never know what you know.
Adam Carolla
Right, right, right. You never know.
Dana Gould
Maybe those towers. And maybe those towers insulted those planes.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. You never know what the tower is now, believe me, I got raised by someone named Chris Corolla. Who is that? My whole family was that person. The other thing. Oh, I hate it. I hate it.
Dana Gould
I don't like when you're walking down the sidewalk and you know, there's a woman, you're leaving someplace, or you're in a hotel going to your room, and. And there's a woman in our case that's like, right in front of you, and you're both going kind of towards the same place. And you know that you are the object of their fear.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Dana Gould
And anything you say to mitigate it will only make it worse.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Dana Gould
Like, boy, that's some passage in the Bible that's just gonna make it worse.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't do anything.
Dana Gould
Yeah. You kind of slow down.
Adam Carolla
No, If I'm walking down the sidewalk and I realize, like, as some woman comes out of a store and I'm eight feet, I'm up on. I just stop and let her get a lead. I don't want to do that.
Dana Gould
I was walking out of his. How old this story is. Walking out of the House of Blues on Sunset Boulevard.
Adam Carolla
All right.
Dana Gould
My first wife and I went to see Tom Jones, the William Shatner of rock.
Adam Carolla
Really.
Dana Gould
And we're leaving the show, and we're walking out on Sunset Boulevard, and there's somebody right in front of us. Big guy. And he suddenly spun around. I think he thought we were reporters or somebody because we were right behind him. And he spun around and glared, and it was Mike Tyson.
Adam Carolla
Oh, it was.
Dana Gould
And what we realized in that second was, if Mike Tyson decides to kill you, you have no recourse.
Adam Carolla
That's right.
Dana Gould
And he checked himself immediately. I did think he thought we were reporters or something and saw we weren't. And he was just, like, shrugged and kept going. But it was in that half a second, it's like, so this is where we're gonna die. Mike Tyson is going to kill us in front of the House of Police.
Adam Carolla
I saw Huey Lewis in the news there with Jimmy in, like, 1994. 95.
Dana Gould
Let me guess. Huge black audience and you guys Very.
Adam Carolla
Well, I'd say urban, but, yeah, same difference. Same difference.
Dana Gould
You guys are the only white chips in that cookie.
Adam Carolla
Lot of Courvoisier being served up at that bar. Sure, yeah. In the. You say the other side of the coiners? Yeah, yeah. I call them the Down Rounders. They round down all the time, but I come from them. My dad was just sort of passive about it. What he would do to make you feel bad is you'd go, I just sold out the Will Turn Theater. And he'd go, ah, there you go. And then look back at his paper. That was his version of it. But he wasn't. He wasn't you know, my mom and my grandma are a little more active about it. You know, like someone would go, then, you know, my mom, you know, like, my mom might go. My grandma would go, like, how many seats is that? And then you go, I think it's like 18 or 1900. And she'd go, so it's not 2000. And then that'd be the end of that discussion. But the greatest.
Dana Gould
All of those people. That's one of the reasons you're successful.
Adam Carolla
I bless it.
Dana Gould
Have you ever talked to Jay Leno about this?
Adam Carolla
No. Well, probably.
Dana Gould
Kevin Rooney told me a story. The great Kevin Rooney told me a story. He was very close to Jay, and I'm telling a story about Jay Leno's dad, Ange Leno. So Jay, if I speak incorrectly in this story, it's Kevin Rooney's fault. Jay is hosting the Tonight Show. Kevin at the time was the head writer of the Dennis Miller show, if you remember that. So Jay's dad is out here and Kevin's driving him out, I think, to the Tonight show to see Jay, who's hosting that night.
Adam Carolla
Guest.
Dana Gould
Yeah, it was the very. The last year, but he'd already been anointed as the new host.
Adam Carolla
Okay.
Dana Gould
I'm trying to remember the story, but Kevin goes to Angela and he goes. So things are going pretty well. You know, Jay's hosting the Tonight Show. I'm the head writer of the Den. Dennis Miller Show. Angels. Well, I just hope you guys don't get your hopes up.
Adam Carolla
Up. I don't know why we have.
Dana Gould
I'm sure I've somehow mangled that story, but that's kind of it. Remember the show Life Goes on with.
Adam Carolla
Corky, the down syndrome kid.
Dana Gould
My mother once said to me, sweetheart, they gave that boy a show. Why won't anyone out there give you a chance?
Adam Carolla
Ah, am I listening? Kimmel sent me a video of Corky, who now has a singing group. I do believe Corky from Life Goes on is singing with the band.
Dana Gould
Sure.
Adam Carolla
And it's him and two other guys and God love him. According to the text I got from Jimmy, he and the band wanted to call it three Tarred. No, that's what I heard, but they shot the label. Shot it.
Dana Gould
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Kind of nice self awareness thing. My ironic sense of humor.
Adam Carolla
I thought it was funny. So we can see if Corky's got a band. Cause I swear to God, Jimmy just sent me that because I said, I can't remember if I told this on the air or something, but you Gotta. I love self deprecation. I was sitting at a bar in San Diego like three weeks ago, and I sat next to the guy who was doing the music, playing the acoustic guitar at the bar. And he came to the bar and he just said to me, I started, he goes, oh, you the guy from the thing and the show and everything. And then he said, he goes, oh, yeah, you and Jimmy, like mancha, blah, blah, blah. And I said, yeah. And he goes, you know, I think Jimmy's the best late night show host ever. And I said, yeah. And he said, yeah, ever. And I said, you mean like, you know, Carson and all the guys? And he goes, yeah, I think it's the best ever. And I said, you know, I'm gonna text that to Jimmy right now. And I'm telling you, if Jimmy's in this country, he'll get back to me in the next two minutes. Because that's just, He's. I'm one of those guys. Takes seven weeks sure to get back to, but he'll do it immediately. So I, I sent it, I said, I'm sitting next to a guy in a bar, said, you're the best talk show host ever. And then like seven minutes went by, I didn't get back. So I go, ah, he's probably out of the country or something. And the guy packed up his gear, his guitar, and he started to leave. And then I got the text and I yelled at the guy, come back. We got a response and all the response said was, is he retarded? Which is good. And then a video showed up, of course.
Dana Gould
Right?
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And. And this is him as an adult with his band who is now called, I don't know what, Jackson three Forever Friends. Celebrate It's a celebration of love Celebrate, celebrate Let's all come together and celebrate, Celebrate, celebrate It's a celebration of love. Hold on a second. Well, first off, the reason I, I.
Dana Gould
Find that beautiful, I, I do do.
Adam Carolla
It's compelling as well. But the reason I couldn't be, bless them, reason I couldn't be in a band is there's a song called from Three Dog Night called Celebrate, Celebrate.
Dana Gould
Dance to the music. So I'm like with Taylor Negron's cousin Chuck.
Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah. Oh, really? That's Negron, right? Taylor passed. He was in every movie. Taylor Negron is. You'll recognize him in a second.
Dana Gould
How many do you go through your contact list sometimes looking for a number. It's like dead guy, dead guy, dead guy. Carlin did a bit about that, about taking dead people out of your contacts.
Adam Carolla
Right. It is sad.
Dana Gould
It's just weird. It's weird to be at an age and time when you know, dead people.
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I know. And then. But it also, through the majesty of digital. Are they really dead? Like, somehow I've had a lot of Norm MacDonald stuff, which just kept popping up on my phone this whole week.
Dana Gould
Because of Tom Cruise looking just like him.
Adam Carolla
I think that was in the picture. And I. And I. And I found myself just watching Norm MacDonald, you know, and it's like, is he dead?
Dana Gould
Again, we're talking about things, like, things that you can't do. I saw Dirty Work last week at the New Beverly, which I haven't seen since it came out in 98.
Adam Carolla
Like him and Artie Lang.
Dana Gould
Yeah, him and Artie Lang. Every fourth joke in that movie is, look out. That guy's gay run. There's a certain point where they. They put on a gay porn movie in Don Rickles movie theater. And before they hit the projector lights. Quick, avert your eyes. And then this literally was like, no, that is. It was a different time.
Adam Carolla
How about when Jim Carrey kissed a he she dude and had to put a toilet plunger on his face to pull the gay juices with a toilet plunger. This thing pushes shit down a latrine. And that's. That's better than putting your lips on another man.
Dana Gould
It's just like, wow. We did. We did evolve. We did make a big leap in awareness.
Adam Carolla
Yes.
Dana Gould
Hey, guys. That movie's so funny, though. There's a great joke every three minutes in that movie.
Adam Carolla
I want to see.
Dana Gould
By the way, have you seen Naked Gun?
Adam Carolla
I didn't see the new one, but it's really funny. The fact that Artie Lang has outlived Norm.
Dana Gould
All those things are crazy. The fact that Brian Wilson lived as long as. Like, Brian Wilson lived longer than so many other bands.
Adam Carolla
Well, it's two brothers. Like, one dead at 51. And they were.
Dana Gould
Everybody predicted Dennis. The fact that Dennis lived as long as he did was impressive.
Adam Carolla
But Carl.
Dana Gould
The fact that Brian. Brian outlived Carl is amazing.
Adam Carolla
Did you know I did a. Pardon the pun. I did a deep dive on Dennis. And did you know he was buried?
Dana Gould
Do I have to pardon that pun? It's so beautiful.
Adam Carolla
Do you know he was. Yeah, he died. He died.
Dana Gould
So they basically fished him out and threw him back.
Adam Carolla
But he was buried at sea. I don't mean his ashes scattered. He was buried at sea.
Dana Gould
Yeah, that is.
Adam Carolla
And they said if you're not in the Coast Guard, and you're not in the Navy. You cannot be buried at sea. And Ronald Reagan said, I'll sign off.
Dana Gould
Okay, sure.
Adam Carolla
And he. And he's buried at sea.
Dana Gould
Well, that was sort of like my old joke. If you are in a skydiving accident, they basically have to dig you out and then rebury you.
Adam Carolla
Yes, yes. Yeah, they did. They pulled him from the. From God bless him, Davy Jones locker.
Dana Gould
Yep.
Adam Carolla
And they sent him. Sent him back. I don't know. I was thinking about a stupid. Think about dumb early jokes. And I was thinking up your alley about the Bionic Man.
Dana Gould
Sure.
Adam Carolla
And they had the Bionic man, and then they had the Bionic Woman.
Dana Gould
I think I know where we're going with this.
Adam Carolla
And the Bionic Woman is a Bionic Woman. Because of a skydiving accident. Her chute didn't open.
Dana Gould
Her name is. She has a name. It's Jamie Summers.
Adam Carolla
Jamie Summers, Right. And then later, Jamie Summers also then got a bionic dog.
Dana Gould
Oh, I know.
Adam Carolla
I remember. My joke was two shoots not opening.
Dana Gould
But the other great thing about it.
Adam Carolla
Do you remember? She got a bionic dog. So you just keep going.
Dana Gould
But the great thing about.
Adam Carolla
Show me the Bionic. It was a German shepherd. German shepherds are always the go to dog for any super dog.
Dana Gould
They're smart and you can train them. Jamie Summers had a Bionicle.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Yeah.
Dana Gould
But she had to move it. But she had to move her hair out of the way to use it.
Adam Carolla
Somebody would be having a covert meeting in, like, a tool shed a quarter mile away, and she needed to hear what they were talking about. And you'd hear her lean in, like, first off, leaning in, it's like, that's only 2 inches closer to the shed. It's a mile away. And then she take a wisp of blonde hair and pull it behind her ear and go, what's going on? As if. That hair is so awesome.
Dana Gould
It's so great. And when you see. When you watch it now. And I have nothing but love for these things, but that's not an evil villain's lair. That's a storage facility in Chatsworth.
Adam Carolla
Right?
Dana Gould
It's fine.
Adam Carolla
It's fine. Bionic Woman is going to meet the dog. We got the clip. Dana Gould. I would have. Of all the humans, I would have said, you would know.
Dana Gould
Cohen would know this.
Adam Carolla
She had a dog. I am a bionic dog.
Dana Gould
How did that not get its own show?
Adam Carolla
Give up, Crosby. He's wasting our time. I wish they'd just put in the pants. You're listening again. Well, they can't do that, can they? Maybe that's why they're talking about putting him away. Come on, dog, jump.
Dana Gould
Jamie, open that door.
Adam Carolla
No, no, no, no, no, no. She's gonna bust her. Bust the handle off. Come on, dog, get on your feet and jump. Hey, stop that. They're hurting the dog. What in the world are you doing with that dog? The bar's got to be 8ft high.
Dana Gould
Who are you?
Adam Carolla
How did you get in? My question first, please, lady, you wouldn't understand. Besides that, this is a grade six area, so happen to be a grade six. Do you have any idea how obnoxious those whistles of yours are? I report you guys are the aspca. Poor baby.
Dana Gould
Oh, Jamie, clock him.
Adam Carolla
It's an upset guy. Why are you doing this to him?
Dana Gould
I mean, you can't jump over that.
Adam Carolla
Bad guy. Smoking cigar, treadmill. Oscar Goldman.
Dana Gould
No, it's Dr. Murray.
Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah, you're right. Oscar's another guy.
Dana Gould
Oscar's is the boss. Dr. Murray.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. When are they going to make this goddamn feature film?
Dana Gould
I know. Wasn't Mark Wahlberg gonna do it?
Adam Carolla
That's what I heard. She meets the dog, but it's the dog bionic. I like that. The dog's depressed because the guy's smoking a cigar, is like, jump over that bar. And he's like, oh, man. Man, I hate Mondays. Dad, there's a bionic dog. Animals are a fact of life and research science.
Dana Gould
What was the doctor's name? Sometimes.
Adam Carolla
But necessary. This is all we would do.
Dana Gould
Critically injured in a chemical. Sunday night. There's Oscar.
Adam Carolla
Years ago. Wait a minute. He was injured in a chemical lab. Wait, go back. I want to know what he was. Jamie. It's thankless. It's sometimes inhumane, but necessary. Max was critically injured in a chemical lab fire six years ago. A tragic story, but a happy ending. Rudy was testing his bionic prototype. Rudy Wells was just the strong will animal that we were looking for.
Dana Gould
That's the dog jumping. Sound effect.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. It's a simple case of being in the right place to the right time.
Dana Gould
It's like me.
Adam Carolla
Not quite, babe. All right, hold on a second.
Dana Gould
Not quite babe. Look at Roster Goldman's tan.
Adam Carolla
Can I say this?
Dana Gould
Richard Dean. Richard Anderson.
Adam Carolla
If I'm riding this thing, I'm like, the dog. Yeah. How was the dog injured? Because. Okay, because Steve Austin was an experimental aircraft and that busted up when they tried to land.
Dana Gould
He was a man. Barely alive.
Adam Carolla
Barely alive. Right. And then her chute didn't open, and so she gets the bionic legs in the arm, in the ear, whatever. But the dog was incinerated in a chemical fire, which would suggest some manifestation of that would show in his coat.
Dana Gould
Sure.
Adam Carolla
Also, the dog was covered with fur, and he burnt up. And I don't know that you need to replace muscle, fashion hips and stuff like that for that.
Dana Gould
Also, the reasons are getting lamer and lamer. It's like the bionic dude would have been. He was crushing at a Doobie Brothers concert.
Adam Carolla
That's right. That's right. All right, so he had dogs.
Dana Gould
Look at. Look at Rudy Wells's. Look at that tan.
Adam Carolla
She had a dog, and the dog was. Was bionic as well.
Dana Gould
God bless him. God bless them all. Yeah, I would like to do that. I would love to do that movie, but to really. Okay, so I'm. I'm walking through an agency, and there's a high level meeting, and a big agent is in this meeting, and they're talking about Peyton Reed, the director. And one of the agents in this meeting knows that Peyton's my friend. So they go, hey, Danny, come in here.
Adam Carolla
What else has Peyton done?
Dana Gould
He does the Ant man movies.
Adam Carolla
Oh, okay.
Dana Gould
With Paul Rudd. And they call me Danny. Come in here. I go, yeah. And they go, you're friends with Peyton Reed? I go, yeah, I am. And basically, they're trying to sign Peyton Reed and they're trying to look at their list of products, projects that could be. And this was. This is around the. This is years ago. This is like late 90s, early aughts.
Adam Carolla
Mm.
Dana Gould
And so I'm looking at the projects, and I go, like, well, like. And they had Six Million Dollar man on it. And I go, six Million Dollar Man. That. That's an interesting. That's an interesting title for him, because I think what Peyton would want to do with it is to tell the real story of how weird that would be. Like, a guy realizing that he's half a machine, looking at his hand and.
Adam Carolla
Going, what am I? Right?
Dana Gould
And then one of the. And I pretend I'm screaming. So one of the agents just goes, jim Carrey.
Adam Carolla
Really?
Dana Gould
Yes. He screams, jim Carrey. Perfect. Perfect.
Adam Carolla
God, it's still happening.
Dana Gould
Yeah. No, it's just like.
Adam Carolla
It was just like.
Dana Gould
Can I go now, please? Can you take a shower?
Adam Carolla
Well, somebody's got to make that movie. Jim Carrey. Wahlberg needs to make that movie.
Dana Gould
Yeah.
Adam Carolla
All right. Dana, we should go. Where to? See you.
Dana Gould
Come on down. If you live in Southern California, you can come on down to Dynasty typewriter on September 7th. It's the hanging with Dr. Z. It's the talk show Dr. Zayas would have had in the 70s. Or you can livestream it. Just go to danagoul.com and you can see it. And then on October 2nd, if you live in Los Angeles, I'll be at the Largo. Largo Plan 9 from outer space live with a great cast.
Adam Carolla
And Danagould.com is where you go.
Dana Gould
Yeah, and I'm on the road. I'm going to Des Moines, Iowa, to Galaxycon. I'm doing all sorts of stuff.
Adam Carolla
You can go to amcarolla.com for all my live shows. Gonna be in Provo, Utah, doing a couple of shows this Friday at the Dry Barn. Just go to amcroll.com for all the tips.
Dana Gould
Is the dry bar a dry bar?
Adam Carolla
It's a dry bar.
Dana Gould
I bet those shows are great.
Adam Carolla
They are. They're fun.
Dana Gould
No, I'm serious. Serious.
Adam Carolla
You gotta be clean. But I mean.
Dana Gould
But that's a beautiful thing about theater shows is people aren't hammered.
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Mm. They are not.
Dana Gould
I remember. I remember doing a show. I know we're leaving, but doing a show at Stitches in Boston and this woman, front row center, passed out on the table.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Dana Gould
People, you know, her friends left.
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
Dana Gould
She's just one table woman. Head on the table. This is, you know, 1984. Halfway through my set, this woman just looks at me. She just goes, you're an asshole.
Adam Carolla
Then goes back down again.
Dana Gould
Well, that's comedy.
Adam Carolla
She's proudly dead. And the guy who was beside himself on the motorcycle dress in black is going to be dead soon. So we can all take solace in that. So until next time, Adam Crowford, Dana Gould saying maha.
Dana Gould
You can leave us.
Adam Carolla
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Guest: Dana Gould
Episode: Dana Gould Reflects on 30+ Years in Comedy and Writing for The Simpsons
Release Date: August 27, 2025
In this lively and introspective episode, Adam Carolla sits down with acclaimed comedian, writer, and Simpsons alum Dana Gould. Their candid, often hilarious conversation explores Dana’s unique place in the comedy world, lessons from 30+ years in stand-up and TV writing, the pursuit (and limits) of fame, and the psychology of success. The two riff on pop culture, classic films, band analogies, and the comedy life, blending humor with sharp insights on art, work, and happiness.
Dana Gould, 04:01 – on cultivating deep respect but not superstardom
Dana Gould quoting Stephen King, 13:01
Adam Carolla, 17:06 – on The Who and The Kinks, as artist-career metaphor
Dana Gould, 11:23
Adam Carolla, 24:49
Adam Carolla, 17:06
Dana Gould, 09:58
Adam Carolla, 14:00
Adam Carolla, 26:17 – on running red lights vs. speeding
Adam Carolla, 75:22 – on LA motorcycle narcissism
Adam Carolla, 84:53 – on family motivation style
This episode of The Adam Carolla Show is not only a comedic masterclass but a meditation on creativity, happiness, and living life on your own terms. Ideal for fans of stand-up, TV writing, pop culture nostalgia, and anyone fascinated by how “cult favorites” shape showbiz behind the scenes. Dana Gould’s hard-won insight and humility, paired with Adam’s philosophizing, create a blend of laughs and life lessons—whether you’re a comedy nerd or just need a good story.
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