Dave Rubin on the Biggest Difference between Florida and California + Pedo Pascal’s “Hot Girl Anxiety”

Summary

Adam Carolla Show – Episode Summary Guest: Dave Rubin
Episode Title: Dave Rubin on the Biggest Difference between Florida and California + Pedro Pascal’s “Hot Girl Anxiety”
Release Date: July 29, 2025

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1. Introduction and Guest Welcome

Timestamp: [00:00 - 02:16]

Adam Carolla opens the episode by introducing Dave Rubin, host of the Rubin Report, who joins via Zoom from his studio. The initial banter touches on Adam’s extensive collection of writing tools versus Dave’s minimalistic approach.

Notable Quote:

• Dave Rubin [02:16]: "You have all the podcast records, you've been doing this from before I was even born."

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2. The Rise of AI in Broadcasting

Timestamp: [02:42 - 06:40]

The conversation shifts to the integration of Artificial Intelligence in media. Dave Rubin discusses the development of "AI Dave," an AI version of himself designed to host parts of the Rubin Report during his annual August hiatus. He humorously predicts that AI will eventually take over roles traditionally held by humans, including Adam’s podcast.

Notable Quotes:

• Dave Rubin [04:40]: "AI Dave... is not only going to at least host portions of the show while I'm gone, but he'll answer questions from fans and he's me."
• Adam Carolla [06:40]: "Well, all technology always ends up in pornography. Either war or pornography."

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3. Governance: Florida vs. California

Timestamp: [09:24 - 17:29]

Adam and Dave delve into the stark differences between governance in Florida and California, particularly in disaster management. Drawing from a recent interview with Rick Caruso, they highlight his proactive approach to wildfire management by contracting private firefighters, contrasting it with perceived inefficiencies in California’s public services.

Notable Quotes:

• Dave Rubin [14:46]: "There's nothing we could do [about robots taking over]... People banging them."
• Adam Carolla [13:06]: "He contracts with his own fire department... 'He's got 40% of wildfire firefighters are private.'"

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4. The Impact of Competent Leadership

Timestamp: [17:29 - 22:17]

The discussion emphasizes the importance of competent leadership in crisis situations. Dave Rubin praises Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for his efficient response to Hurricane Ian, contrasting it with California’s struggles with wildfires and infrastructural challenges.

Notable Quotes:

• Dave Rubin [16:55]: "DeSantis... cut the red tape and let us get to work. They rebuilt that thing in about two or three months."
• Adam Carolla [22:17]: "The people are like at a city council meeting and they want concealed carry because this shit is going down and people are getting killed."

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5. Critique of Democratic Leadership and DEI Initiatives

Timestamp: [22:17 - 37:23]

Adam and Dave critique Democratic leaders, particularly Karen Bass, labeling her and Kamala Harris as unqualified and overly focused on DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) policies. They argue that such leaders lack practical skills necessary for effective governance, contrasting them with business-oriented individuals like Rick Caruso.

Notable Quotes:

• Dave Rubin [27:16]: "She's just someone that DEI'd it all the way through."
• Adam Carolla [28:50]: "It's the insanity of taking totally unqualified dumb shits and putting them into these positions."

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6. Addressing Anxiety and Personal Coping Strategies

Timestamp: [30:05 - 57:17]

The conversation transitions to mental health, with a focus on anxiety. Adam promotes BetterHelp as a solution, while Dave Rubin discusses the societal pressures leading to widespread anxiety among men. They explore practical ways to manage anxiety, emphasizing hands-on activities and developing tangible skills as effective coping mechanisms.

Notable Quotes:

• Adam Carolla [30:05]: "Men today... have to perform, they have to provide, they have to keep it all together."
• Dave Rubin [51:55]: "Just find something. And then if you do that, you will ultimately surround yourself with good people."

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7. Media and Journalism Critique

Timestamp: [71:07 - 95:53]

Adam and Chuck Mangione critique modern journalism, particularly the perceived bias and lack of accountability in major news outlets like CNN and MSNBC. They express frustration over reporters’ inability to remain neutral, arguing that the media often serves to polarize rather than inform. The discussion includes a critique of late-night hosts like Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel for their political biases.

Notable Quotes:

• Adam Carolla [73:55]: "It's a place you shouldn't turn to, to get journalism from because you go, they got everything wrong."
• Chuck Mangione [75:14]: "There's nothing in it for them to cover it is what I'm, what I'm saying."

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8. Pedro Pascal’s “Hot Girl Anxiety” and Public Perception

Timestamp: [76:59 - 89:03]

The topic shifts to entertainment, specifically Pedro Pascal’s behavior and the public’s reaction to his self-touching as a coping mechanism for anxiety. Adam and Chuck discuss societal perceptions of celebrities’ ways of handling stress, debating whether such behaviors are genuine or performative.

Notable Quotes:

• Chuck Mangione [78:19]: "He's a douche. He looks good for being 50."
• Adam Carolla [87:34]: "A little insight into my dad and sort of where he thinks he is versus where he actually is."

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9. Tribute to Chuck Mangione and Personal Anecdotes

Timestamp: [98:02 - 112:58]

The hosts pay tribute to the late Chuck Mangione, sharing personal stories and memories. Adam recounts his father’s passion for the trumpet and reflects on the importance of building tangible skills as a path to sanity and personal fulfillment.

Notable Quotes:

• Adam Carolla [109:00]: "I think carpentry is a metaphor for sort of sanity. I think people need to go out and get their hands dirty and skill."
• Chuck Mangione [111:16]: "He clearly didn’t have imposter syndrome."

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10. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: [113:49 - End]

Adam wraps up the episode by encouraging listeners to embrace their skills and passions as a way to combat anxiety and societal pressures. The hosts share final anecdotes and promote upcoming events, emphasizing the value of hands-on activities over digital distractions.

Notable Quote:

• Adam Carolla [116:45]: "Comedy can be used to unite or divide people. Do you have any advice on how we can use for common ground?"

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Key Takeaways:

• AI in Media: The potential for AI to replace human roles in broadcasting, highlighting both innovation and potential loss of human touch.
• Effective Governance: Contrasting Florida’s proactive disaster management with California’s challenges, underscoring the impact of competent leadership.
• Political Leadership Critique: Criticism of Democratic leaders’ focus on DEI over practical governance skills.
• Mental Health: Emphasis on developing tangible skills and hands-on activities as effective ways to manage anxiety.
• Media Bias: Concerns over the lack of neutrality and accountability in modern journalism, contributing to societal polarization.
• Celebrity Behavior: Analysis of public figures’ coping mechanisms for anxiety and societal perceptions of such behaviors.
• Personal Fulfillment: The importance of building and mastering practical skills as a means to personal stability and mental health.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Dave Rubin [04:40]: "AI Dave... he's not only going to at least host portions of the show while I'm gone, but he'll answer questions from fans and he's me."
• Adam Carolla [06:40]: "All technology always ends up in pornography. Either war or pornography."
• Dave Rubin [14:46]: "You save so much money on insurance that it overrides the price of employing your own fire department."
• Adam Carolla [22:17]: "The citizens are like at a city council meeting and they want concealed carry because this shit is going down and people are getting killed."
• Dave Rubin [27:16]: "She’s just someone that DEI'd it all the way through."
• Adam Carolla [28:50]: "The insanity of taking totally unqualified dumb shits and putting them into these positions."
• Dave Rubin [51:55]: "Just do something. Learn something. Find something. There is something that everybody is interested in, and it doesn't mean everyone has to be interested in it."
• Adam Carolla [73:55]: "They got everything wrong."
• Chuck Mangione [75:14]: "There's nothing in it for them to cover it is what I'm, what I'm saying."
• Adam Carolla [109:00]: "I think carpentry is a metaphor for sort of sanity. I think people need to go out and get their hands dirty and skill."

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This comprehensive summary captures the core discussions and insights from the episode, providing a clear overview for those who haven’t listened. The inclusion of notable quotes with timestamps allows readers to reference specific moments within the conversation.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, in this episode, Dave Rubin from the Rubin Report joins me for a lively conversation. Alicia Krause has got the news and we'll do all that right after this.

[Mike Dawson]

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[Mike Dawson]

From Corolla 1 Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, the host of the Rubin Report, Dave Rubin. Plus the news and trending topics with Alicia Crouse. And now last week's news of Chuck Mangione's death. Still makes him feel so bad.

[Adam Carolla]

Adam Corolla, yeah, get it on. Got to get on a choice but get on man that you get it on. Dave Rubin is joining us via Zoom from his studio. Always good to see our old friend Dave Rubin. Good to see you, buddy.

[Dave Rubin]

Carolla, it's good to see you. You know, I always note because you're a broadcasting legend, you have all of the podcast records, you've been doing this, I think from before I was even born. You have a lot of pension with you at all times. You have highlighters, you're always circling things. I only have my Sharpie. I have one piece of paper and a Sharpie. You have 20 pens there. What are you circling before it begins? It looks like you're playing tic tac toe with yourself. What's going on?

[Adam Carolla]

I like to get my highlighter. I highlight the guest name, I highlight the project. The Tequila Copel. C O P A L. By the way, I some of the official particulars, I'm old school, like I'm tactile. I carry a pen in my hand, like I don't know, like Bob Dole used to do, you know, just cause he had that one hand that was all crinkled up from the war. Bob Dole. I'm Bob Dole, right? So I have like, scraps of paper and stuff because, you know, Jay Leno once said, like, I don't get why anyone's gotta write everything down. You got a good joke, you remember it. If you don't, I go, jay, I forget every joke I've ever said. I have to write stuff down.

[Dave Rubin]

So, all right, that was a pretty solid Leno.

[Adam Carolla]

I do no impressions. I just do Leno gibberish. Right? So Dave is gonna be your A.I. dave is gonna host the Rubin Report for the month of August. Is that correct?

[Dave Rubin]

The future is here, man. You know, I do my off the grid August thing. You brought me back a couple years ago. No phone, no tv, no computer Game Boy, no nothing for a month. This is my ninth year doing it in August. And this year, I don't know if you've heard about the AI and all the computer stuff now, but yeah, AI Dave, we've been working on this for about a year, and he is not only going to at least host portions of the show while I'm gone, but he'll answer questions from fans and he's me. I mean, he is me in the studio, dressed like me, reacts like me. You know, it's not perfect yet. We're still in the, you know, Mason age of AI. But Corolla, I mean, this is coming for you too, man. You know, your days of having us, you know, be in the studio. The robots are coming, there's nothing we could do.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I got a note leaning in.

[Dave Rubin]

As the kids say.

[Adam Carolla]

I got a note the other day that said I was coming up on my 4000th episode of this show shortly. I know. And so I was always happy in the past to say that people didn't. There would be a couple of people who did an Adam Carolla impersonation. But the thing I was always pleased to report on is even the ones that sounded like me would still go plywood, two by four, drywall. I go, okay, you can't do me. Because even if you sound like me, you're not a builder and you can't figure out the lingo part. So I was always happy and flattered. But this AI thing sounds like it's gonna be able to just do us completely.

[Dave Rubin]

Right, Right. That's funny. So you're the guys that were doing the Corolla impression. They just have to drywall. Anchor. Got it. Okay, fine. AI man, it's you. This thing has been learning from me for the past Year. So it's been watching. They've been ingesting my episodes, watching my speech patterns, intonation, you know, if I. We were fiddling with it this morning, like you asked, this thing, what it says about Gavin Newsom, and it's gonna drop a couple F bombs and talk about the lizard man. Like, it's. It's much more than just Dave, you know, diving into Wikipedia and just regurgitating stuff back. And the fun part is, and we're gonna figure out how to do some of this, when I come back, you know, I'll start interviewing it, or he'll start interviewing me and we'll compare. Does AI Dave match up with. I guess I'm real Dave, I'm carbon Dave. And we'll see if they even like each other or want to be in the same room. And eventually, by the way, the spirit of that thing's going to be put in a robot. I mean, now I'm jumping. I'm really jumping ahead. But of course, that's the next version of all of this. Right now we just have AI chatbots and, you know, you can create an AI version of yourself, but ultimately they're going to be put in the Tesla, the Optimus robots and everything else. And, you know, and then people will be banging them. That's where this all leads. It's just people banging robots.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, all technology always ends up in pornography. Either war or pornography. Like.

[Dave Rubin]

Right, the VHS Beta thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. But all technology, it's funny. It either goes to the battlefield or the bedroom. It's like drones. Oh, would be great. We'll put cameras on these things and we'll be able to film that. Whatever, 10 minutes later, they're putting explosives on them at all. All things sort of lead to porn or war. And this tells you a little bit. This is. This is where the robots are going, right? The battlefield and to the bedroom, Right.

[Dave Rubin]

And eventually, eventually it'll be the sex bots out there on the front lines.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean?

[Dave Rubin]

So the enemy soldiers come, and then the sexy sex bot, you know, so if you're. If you're a straight dude, it's going to look like. Who do you like these days? Corolla?

[Adam Carolla]

Sofia Vergara.

[Dave Rubin]

Sofia Vergara. That feels like a very fair choice. Most people are gonna get on board and then. Will they wanna shoot Sofia Vergara or could she just basically bang him to death? A shot will not be fired. That's probably another joke there too.

[Adam Carolla]

There'll be comfort. There'll be sex bot comfort. Women and then at some point, they'll start to think on their own, and then they'll unionize, and then they'll start complaining that their charging stations are subhuman. And then Trump is going to have to make an AI Trump is going to have to make like an alligator Alcatraz to put them in. And then Democratic congresspeople are going to tour it and explain how the charging ports are disgusting. And it will just, we'll just keep going in perpetuity. It.

[Dave Rubin]

It really, it's the same script with a slightly updated version. There's actually a movie, it's not particularly good, but there's a movie on Netflix that came out a few months ago about what you just described right there. It's called Electric State. And it's about sort of the robots taking over for a while, the humans turning on them. They end up in their kind of alligator Alcatraz place. And then I'll leave it for the viewing audience to figure out if they want to watch the rest. I don't want to give away the whole thing right here.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I know you were formerly Los Angeleno, and I had a chance to interview Rick Caruso and just a couple days ago. So I got a clip I can show you. But the thing that's tough being a Los Angeleno and Rick Caruso and ending up with Karen Bass is and all that. I won't play for you just yet, but I will say this. It's like, it's one thing when they do this thing where they go.

[Dave Rubin]

You're.

[Adam Carolla]

Let's say you go, we had the first round pick and we didn't take Michael Jordan. We took Akeem Olajuwon or something.

[Dave Rubin]

Sam Bowie, that's. The Blazers took Sam freaking Bowie.

[Adam Carolla]

Also a great Italian liqueur as well. But here's what I'm saying. Sam Bowie played in the league and knew how to play basketball. And while you wish you would have got Michael Jordan, you got a guy who started for 11 years or whatever it is. We could have had Rick Caruso, who would have been Michael Jordan, and instead we got a towel girl in Karen Bass. And that's the problem. All right, this is me interviewing him for a minute 30, and it's in the Palisades next to his place that never burned down. Yep. I used to do earthquake rehab work. We know there's going to be an earthquake when we get a 7.2. There's some damage, you know, parking structure in Northridge. When Honduras gets a 7.2, it's level. It's devastation because we understand there's going to be an earthquake and we build for it. And we don't go, how can you stop an earthquake? We go, there's going to be an earthquake and we're going to build for it. And we build for it. We mitigate quite a bit.

[Dave Rubin]

Well, that's the premise of if it's predictable, it's preventable.

[Adam Carolla]

You plan for it.

[Dave Rubin]

Absolutely. But there were no plans in anticipation of this windstorm coming in. It was clear now the fire department didn't pre deploy. If it had pre deployed, they could have put the fire out early. The water tanks being empty, 40 years of vegetation that had never been managed properly, that became rocket fuel. And then on top of it, running out of water. You never run out of water. That's an unthinkable thing. So mistakes, misjudgments, mismanagement, incompetence at many, many levels.

[Adam Carolla]

That sounds like l. A. Yeah, we're filming, we're showing Dave now. Across the street flew the drone, which doesn't have a warhead on it yet, through a completely burnt out building and above Rick caruso's place, his sprawling mall, for lack of a better term. And then just beyond it, everything is burnt as far as the eye can see, except for his area because he had his own fire department. And Rick caruso was like, look, you guys are incompetent. I built this beautiful retail space and I'd like to keep it so I'll contract with my own fire department. And I asked him a bunch of questions about it because I was curious. And I think most people are like, what do you mean you have your own fire department? And he said, there's no firehouse on the facility. You contract with guys who do this and you have them on retainer, essentially. And he said about 40% of wildfire firefighters are private. I said, oh, I didn't know that. And he said, yeah, and you retain them and you pay them every year to answer the bell. And he said, two days before the fire hit, they saw the report about the wind and they deployed and they showed up to caruso's place. Is it called the villa village. Sorry, the village. And he has a few of these spread out. Yeah, all over the place.

[Dave Rubin]

He's got one by you doesn't. He's got one over there in your studio?

[Adam Carolla]

I think he's got. He's got. Yes, he has the americana in glendale, which is beautiful. And what you do is you walk into the place and you go, okay, whoever's running this. That's who I want running the city because it's clean and it's safe or whatever. So These guys deploy two days before the fire hits. They show up about 40 guys. I said, where'd you get the water? He said, they have tanker trucks and they also show up with fire retardant material. And they show up two days before and they start spraying fire retardant material on the roof. And then they start a perimeter and they have their tanker trucks. And then when the fire comes, there's just a complete perimeter around that place. And they were able to save some other commercial buildings on the other side of Sunset in front of them because they'd already saved their facility and they were just saving random places in the neighborhood in general. But that's what they did. And I said to him, and how does it work? Because this sounds pretty expensive to me. You must then get it back on insurance, right? I mean, how much money do you save on your insurance policy? If you live in a fire zone and you got Newsom and Bass in charge, Allstate's not gonna wanna insure you. And he said, yeah, it's actually cheaper. You save so much money on insurance that it overrides the price of employing your own fire department.

[Dave Rubin]

Wow. Well, look, Adam, you live in California, you live in Los Angeles. I know that there has been plans, rumored plans for the Corolla exodus for quite some time. As you know, I left, you know, three plus years ago. And I live in a place in Florida where we have proper management. We're not dealing with fires here, and we're not dealing with earthquakes, but we are dealing with hurricanes that hit pretty hard, right? And we're only three. We're only three years off Hurricane Ian, which basically was a Category 5 that sat pretty much on those barrier islands, Sanibel, Captiva and southwest Florida, Fort Myers, Naples area sat there for hours. Utter, utter disaster. You cannot. It's what you said to Caruso right there. You can't stop these things from happening. But if, as human beings, if we organize properly and if you actually elect serious people to do work, to do good work, you can mitigate damage. There are new ways to build. There are ways to organize so that you can have first responders ready. All of the things that we do here. So look, I sit here, we're rolling into. We're in the midst of right now of hurricane season here in Florida. Is it possible we're going to get a serious whopper in Miami, you know, category four or five over the next Couple weeks or next two months. Absolutely. We can't stop that. But what I am confident of is that the infrastructure is, I would say, basically as good as it can be, that the teams would be ready and ready to go. And, you know, when DeSantis gets all of those guys, we've seen videos of it, just all of the engineers and the electricians and everybody just ready to go to get to wherever they have to be. Like, you can just prepare properly. We do that here. It's why I'm so proud to be here. And on the engineering side and the building side that I know you love, I mean, look what happened to the Sanibel Causeway. A three and a half mile bridge gets basically demolished. And they original estimates, I think they were saying it's going to take like three or four years to build. He had it up and running base, not he. He created the conditions to have the right people there up and running within two months. And on the night of his reelection, I was broadcasting.

[Adam Carolla]

DeSantis.

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah, DeSantis.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dave Rubin]

I was broadcasting from his party on election night and a guy came over to me and he said, dave, you'll love this story. I'm an engineer. I'm a structural engineer in North Florida. But when DeSantis put out the call, we need engineers to come down and figure it out. He got all of us down there. There were about 100 of us, and he said to us, what do I need to do? And all everybody said was cut the red tape and let us get to work. And they rebuilt that thing in about, I think it was two or three months. I mean, that's what you need. It's just about proper governance.

[Adam Carolla]

Everything is so doable. And back to my Michael Jordan. And you drafted the towel girl analogy. The guy we passed on for mayor had his private firefighting group in place and saved everything. And the one we voted for was in Ghana in ceremonial garb, dancing with the newly elected prince a million miles away. That's literally. I don't know how greater an illustration you could give you, really. You got a choice or B, choice one will be out off the continent, hanging out in a country she has nothing to do with because somebody, possibly a black person, got elected to some crappy country. And the other guy's gonna be up with a walkie talkie in his hand and a rallying the troops to save the neighborhood.

[Dave Rubin]

You know, it's funny because I'm a basketball guy, I can really do your analogy here. You know, the funny thing about that 1983 draft. The Jordan draft is so the Blazers, they had Clyde Drexler, who's my favorite player. So they didn't draft Jordan because Drexler was one year in. And he became a star, obviously. Same position. The Houston Rockets at number two took Olijuan, who obviously became, you know, superstar, two time champion. And then of course, the Bulls took Jordan at 3. In your situation, you didn't have to go full Sam buoy. You could have dealt with the Elijah 1 career instead of the Jordan career. What you couldn't deal with was the. The, in essence, the Bowie thing. He became injured, but he, yes, he could stand.

[Adam Carolla]

I said, elijah, Juan, and you shoved. You inserted Bowie into this Bowie because.

[Dave Rubin]

Bowie was taken number one. That's the thing. Bowie was the bust. Elijah on was two, Jordan was three. But yes, that, that is the point on all of these things. When you look at that, you almost feel you must feel this, that there must. And I don't like thinking in these terms in a certain spiritual sense, but like that there's got to be some karmic piece to this that that city could have chose that man who not only built what you were talking about there and then Glendale, but also he.

[Adam Carolla]

Did the Grove, the Americana, the Grove, the Commons. I think they're all spectacular.

[Dave Rubin]

Yes, they are spectacular. They are places that you are happy to bring your family to, where there's proper outdoor seating and they're clean and they're well maintained, and they have cool water fountains and all of those things.

[Adam Carolla]

I told Rick Caruso, I said, I'm gonna pay you a real good compliment. Because we all know there's compliments where people go, like, Dave Rubin. Yeah, I know that guy. Yeah, that guy's funny. But the best kind of compliments are where the guy goes, I brought my wife to the show. She didn't know who you were. She didn't wanna go to the show. And she was laughing, talking about you, the who home. Like, that's a real compliment, you know, I said to Rick Caruso, I go, rick, I'm just paying you a real compliment. And that I did a show or an event at. Oh, God, not Tinhorn Flats. That's a place Gavin Newsom shut down. Sagebrush Cantina. Sagebrush Cantina, sorry, Sagebrush Cantina. And Mike August, he got there a half hour before I did, and he, like, walked across the street and he goes, there's an amazing facility across the street. I don't know where this thing came from or something. Then he paused, he went, I bet Rick Caruso did this place. And sure enough, it was his place over in Westlake Village, wherever we were. But the point is, is like that's a real compliment. Like something look is so pristine, so orderly and so nice that it must be this guy. That's the guy that could have been mayor.

[Dave Rubin]

But it's also exactly what the Democrats are doing with everything. So Karen Bass, I actually don't know pedigree her full resume. Maybe you guys know it and you can fill me in. But like, I just have no doubt. This is not someone who was super successful in the world of business or even in the world of politics. She was probably someone that kind of DEI'd it all the way through. Okay, fine. And even if you remove the DEI version, she's someone that. She's just someone basically. And what I think that all the really. And this is a red blue divide in the country. What the red states need to consistently just do right now is just higher competent people. We have to try to get over the cult of personality a bit more. But blue states have made their choices. And if you live in the Pacific Palisades, and I've seen a lot of the videos, we've played a couple of things that you've done there, and I know how much you care about Malibu and that whole area. Like you cannot leave your life and your livelihood and your family up to the whims of completely ridiculous, nonsensical people who don't know anything about clearing brushes or why there should be water in reservoirs or anything else. Like you just can't do it anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

Somebody called me today and said, the people of Encino, California, you know that area? Well, yeah, yeah. And that's where your last residence was, in the Encino area. And they said their people, the citizens are like at a city council meeting and they want concealed carry. Like they wanna start packing. The most liberal, often Jewish, often works in the business. Krupp is like, we gotta start carrying guns because this shit is going down and people are getting killed and you guys aren't able to protect us.

[Dave Rubin]

Adam, you remember coming to my house? You said it was the best steak that you had ever had. One of my last parties before I got the high hell out of that crap hole.

[Adam Carolla]

Tomahawk, baby.

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah. And I was up the hill in a beautiful new construction house that I never to leave. I never wanted to leave that house. As a matter of fact, I should connect you with my builder. I'm trying to get him to move to Florida now. But if you're doing some building over there. He still hasn't fully made the move. But that. You saw my house. I love that house. Never wanted to leave. There were nights before I left hearing gunshots out of nowhere. I mean, we were up the hill, like that's where celebrities wanted to live. Suddenly we're hearing gunshots. Suddenly we're hearing, you know, you're hearing police alarms all the time. And then, you know, because we had had a couple fires also then, you know, there were a couple nights where I was on my roof with a hose and I was like, how freaking ridiculous is this? I don't trust that anyone can solve any of the basic societal stuff. That should be the bare minimum. I don't want government to do that much. I know you don't either. But I want them to do the bare minimum so that they make sure your house isn't either broken into or burned down. How about that? That would be a pretty low bar.

[Adam Carolla]

I completely agree. Like, when you move to la, you shouldn't be issued a gun and a hose and told you're on your own at the airport. At the airport, Karen Bass hands you a hose and a gun and says, good luck.

[Dave Rubin]

She's like, this is shower. This is Shoot. This is.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm gonna tell my guys at Dawson you can find a comment. So I posted this Rick Caruso clip and I basically, it's flying a drone through a burnt out husk of a building and then flying over his pristine area, untouched, and then seeing moonscape of destruction behind it. And I basically sent a tweet out and I said, can you guess which one Rick Caruso was in charge of? And then somebody wrote me, and this is the problem. And this is why we can't have decent governing in la. I got back the long winded. A rich white guy builds malls that only fancy people can go. It's like, okay, okay, yeah, he's got, yes, he has a boat, he owns a yacht. Yes, Everybody. He's successful and he has a yacht. Yes.

[Dave Rubin]

What a dirt bag. Building nice things for people to enjoy.

[Adam Carolla]

They always do.

[Dave Rubin]

And it looked like his suit fit. What's with this guy?

[Adam Carolla]

And they always do this thing where it's like, I have been. I lived and had my kids around the Americana and Glendale kids love it. They want to go to the place that has the soup dumplings and they want to go to the movie theater and that's where the froyo is. And they want to look at the Tesla dealership or whatever it is. They just want to go, that place is Packed all the time with families, oftentimes Armenian families. Cuz that's kind of the demographic over there. These are not rich people. These are just folks that want to go to a safe place and walk around and enjoy, enjoy some open space and a waffle cone. Like it's always got to turn in some kind of elitist thing like so his rich friends can eat, can drink coffee. It's like, no, it's just stuff. It's just nice people, just.

[Dave Rubin]

But Adam, this is why the word gentrification has become one of the most dangerous words words in the way, in the lexicon of Americana, let's say right now. Because the idea of gentrification. So there's a crappy neighborhood that's been neglected for one reason or another, that is now in urban decay. And then usually what happens is Starbucks comes in. If Starbucks comes in first, that's the sign, right? Because they're going to put a nice facade. They might do something to some of the other storefronts right there. They're not just going to go into a hovel. And somehow there's a certain set of people that are like, wait a minute, I live in a place that has been left behind again for whatever the reasons are and whatever. We don't have to get political with it. But you're in a place where suddenly a giant chain is like, we're gonna come in and yes, the coffee's not that great and it is expensive, but we're gonna do something a little bit cleaner here that's gonna bring some jobs that subsequently starts unfurling the tied up knot of all of the poverty and all the stuff. And you're angry about it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Dave Rubin]

And until people get over that mental hurdle, then at some point these stores are just never going to open in some of these areas. And we actually might have already headed in that direction. Because to open a brick and mortar these days in a, especially in a blue city, you kind of have to be nuts. Like on any given day, antifa or Hamas or whoever can just take you out.

[Adam Carolla]

The part that.

[Dave Rubin]

Have I mentioned that I live in.

[Adam Carolla]

Florida, by the way, the part that reminded me, somebody reminded me and I forgot about it. Speaking of DEI and Dawson, you can just read, you can just read it, we don't need to see it. But speaking at dei, when Biden and I screamed about this, when Biden said, I am going to find a vice president running mate who's black and female, I was like, huge mistake, stop it. And everyone should be screaming, don't do it. And they should be insulted by it. Everyone just went along with it. I was like, are you fucking nuts? We ended up with Kamala Harris. Number two was Karen Bass. I forgot that. She could have been our vice president. Now, I don't know that you get dumber or less effective than Kamala. You could put Karen Bass in charge of the border. It'd be the same as putting Kamala Harris. But we're this insanity of taking totally unqualified dumb shits and putting them into these positions. Especially with Biden. The guy's a heartbeat away from you being the president of the United States. It's insane. It should be repugnant. Repulsive Democrats should complain about it, right?

[Dave Rubin]

Well, I think you're splitting hairs as to whether it would have been worse with Kamala or Karen Best. Like, they're gonna have to build that thing that they're building to figure out the nature of the universe. In Sweden, we could put enthropia that, like, figure out who would be worse. Maybe that. Maybe it could work on that when it splits the neuron or whatever. But look, they're all terrible. And by the way, it's not going to stop. Look what's happening in New York City right now. This Zorhan Mandami, communist, not only has he only been in the country for legally a citizen of the country since, I think, 2018, but all he's done, he's a New York assemblyman. It's the most corrupt organization. It's the most corrupt state assembly. It puts Callie to shame when it comes to corruption. What has he built? He wants to run grocery stores. He wants the government to run grocery stores. Have you ever run a grocery store? Do you know anything about the supply chain? Do you know anything about logistics? They just like people with a soft lens, a little Vaseline on it. He smiles a lot. They play lo fi music in the background. He bops around or whatever. They take care of his beard so it's nice and trim. He hasn't gone full jihad. And then they install them in jobs that they should have nothing to do it. I shouldn't have that job either. I've never. Well, I did work at a grocery store, but I've never run a grocery store. I was assistant manager at Electronics Boutique, though.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Dave Rubin]

I could move. I could move video in Long island in the late 90s. Nobody moved more Pokemon red than me.

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[Adam Carolla]

I have I have this comment when I basically said, guess, guess what Rick Caruso was in charge of. He had his own fire force. And then the person wrote this and this is why we can't have anything good.

[Mike Dawson]

Hey Grok, care to remind us which luxury empire Rick Caruso was running while pretending to quote understand the people? Was it the Grove?

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on, let's just stop. First off, I was yelling earlier to Jay Moore. I go ask me how much ahead of lettuce is. Answer I don't know. Okay, that doesn't mean I'm out of touch or don't like the little person. I do other things that don't involve purchasing heads of lettuce. That's fine.

[Dave Rubin]

I can see what this has to do with little people. Everyone can get lettuce regardless of Are you saying midgets are paying more for.

[Adam Carolla]

They put the lettuce up high so the small people can. I'm saying it doesn't make me hate folks that don't make money. It just means I'm not shopping and buying lettuce all day. And by the way, I don't assume Rick Caruso knows what a head of lettuce costs. And I don't want him to know what a head of lettuce costs. I want him to save us from fire all right, so keep reading it.

[Mike Dawson]

Or maybe that billionaire playground in Palisades Village where a latte costs more than minimum wage. Exactly. How does someone worth billions whose entire career is building upscale shopping centers for the ultra rich.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on. The ultra. Go down to the grove or go down. Go down to Americana right now and see all the Honda CRVs in the parking lot and all the guys wearing flip flops and shorts with their kids and stuff. No ultra rich trying to capitalize on a matinee.

[Dave Rubin]

There's nothing like the ultra rich love more than an H and M, where they can get a $6 shirt that literally will disintegrate off their body if the temperature is not right.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, the ultra. Sorry. Go ahead.

[Mike Dawson]

How can this person suddenly claim to be a man of the people? Where was this empathy when your tenants were struggling with rent hikes or when homeless people were being pushed away from your properties like trash? Convenience, Silence. Right, Grock.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Well, there you go, Adam.

[Dave Rubin]

Let me tell you.

[Adam Carolla]

And they're so righteous. That's what I love. I love the righteous part.

[Dave Rubin]

No, they love when homeless people encamp in front of their home.

[Adam Carolla]

Awesome. Let them in. Yeah. Bunk up. Yeah.

[Dave Rubin]

Let me tell you a personal anecdote about two weeks ago. I'm leaving Whole Foods, where I think I'm gonna have my guys check it right now. I think you can get ahead of lettuce for about $1.50. That would be my guess, about a buck fifty, but I'm leaving Whole Foods, and I would buy organic, so that's up to 30 cents, maybe I'm gonna say $1.80. I'm leaving whole Foods. And on the corner there, this is about five minutes away from my house. There's a homeless guy who I've seen there before, but now he has also a cart from Whole Foods. He took the cart and put it there, and he built kind of a tent around it. We don't see many homeless people here because we've dealt with that stuff well, and we created the economic conditions, so you're not gonna see a lot of homeless people in Miami. But this guy had now built, like, a tent kind of thing. And I'm very sensitive to that because I lived where you live. So I texted my police chief here, and I said, hey, Chief, just FYI, there's a guy that's built, like, what looks like a kind of semi structure right on the corner here. And I sent him a picture, and he immediately responded, and he said, actually, Dave, you're across the street technically from my Jurisdiction. But I sent this to my counterpart and I went back two hours later and he was gone. And that again, it tells you that all of this stuff decline is a choice. I don't know what they did with that guy. I hope they didn't throw him an alligator alley or what. Well, alligator alley would be fine, but I hope they didn't just throw him to the alligators. But you get my point. It's just a choice whether you're gonna put up with all these things. Inefficient people who are unqualified to do important jobs. If you're gonna allow for.

[Adam Carolla]

For.

[Dave Rubin]

If you're going to be resentful. My God, he created a fancy shopping center. Okay, would you rather be at shopping centers with drug addicts and zombies? Like that can be arranged.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, also, like where the lattes cost more than minimum. First off, nobody needs a latte. Like, it's a choice. If you want a latte, you can get a latte. If you don't want a latte or you can't afford a latte, that's this whole.

[Dave Rubin]

No forced lattes.

[Adam Carolla]

It's this problem. Like, it's my whole problem with all the SNAP stuff and stuff. Like Snap's not gonna pay for rockstar energy drinks anymore. It's like you can purchase a rock star. Denying my kid. No one's denying anything. If you want one, you can buy one. I would hope you don't buy one for your child, but if you would like to purchase him, he's not. We're not saying you can't consume a rock star energy drink. You may purchase one with your own money. Like everyone else who drinks rockstar energy drinks. Right.

[Dave Rubin]

There is a perfectly legit conversation around if you're getting government subsidies, SNAP or EBT or whatever, whether that should be able to go for alcohol or for certain highly processed fast foods. Like if, because referrals are on the dole for their health insurance, maybe it shouldn't, but you could have an honest debate about that. But the, the notion that you can't. Well, first off, that anyone's being forced into anything is kind of ridiculous. But also that you can't, on very little money eat fairly well. You actually can.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, 100% 1 pound.

[Dave Rubin]

You can get a pound of 80, 20 beef for like, you know, if, if you're not getting grass fed, organic, regenerative farm, whatever, you can get a pound of 80, 20 beef, probably four or five bucks in most places. And that can feed you for two meals that, you know, like there you can get a bag of rice, you can get. But just simple lettuce. Like you can do these things Again, we're not trying to keep people in the perpetual state where they have to be doing these things. But a lot of these things are just complete confusion.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, there's good news on the Rick Caruso, Louisiana front. A He was talking like he's gonna run again. But the better news was he said at the end of touring his facility, he said, I had to move my car collection out of whatever. And then I said, oh, you got a car collection? And he goes, oh, yeah. I said, I got a car collection. Oh, okay, that's cute. And I said, are you getting up to pebble beach for the car weekend? Because it's coming up. It's like two weeks away. I go, you go up to car week at Pebble? He goes, oh, yeah, yeah. I go, oh, okay. Well, I'm always out there. I'm at the track. But we go to the lawn and see the concourse, and we'll go to some of the auction previews and the Italiano and the quail and then have these all events and these food and booze and cars, you know. He goes, oh, okay. Well, why don't you come? I'm doing a little thing Thursday night. Why don't you come by? I said, okay. What are you doing? He goes, well, I got my boat. I brought my boat out there. I went and looked up his boat. Invictus is its name. 210ft. 210. Not 110. 210. Like, you gotta take a boat to get to the boat. The boat is too big. You have to take a boat that Jim Carolla couldn't afford in 300 lifetimes to get to his boat, which is 210ft long.

[Dave Rubin]

Adam, can I offer you a piece of advice for dinner? When you're on that boat. Yes, when you are at dinner on that boat, I want you to remember back to about a year ago, right now, when I came to Los Angeles, Angeles, and I took about a dozen of us to a steak joint, private room, big celebrities. Dr. Drew, I think you've heard of him, and Dennis Prager and Larry Elder and Sage Steele and a couple others. And you were sitting next to billionaire David Sachs, and Dave Rubin was footing the bill on the entire thing. And for some reason, you turned to a billionaire and you said, would you like to split a potato? And he said, yes. And he's now in charge of crypto and AI in the government. He is now the CZAR of crypto and AI and you split a potato. Don't. Russo's boat, or you're not gonna be invited back. Not everyone looks on that so kindly like I do.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it makes me a man of the people. Now, I know how much a head of lettuce costs, so I got that going for. How much is a head of lettuce?

[Dave Rubin]

$2.99 over here. 2.99 for an organic head of lettuce.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm gonna bank that one. I split my potatoes. I may bring a potato on Caruso's boat. Honestly, when I get on Caruso's boat, I'm just going to. I'm going to spill some champagne on the bathroom floor, and I'm going to take a nose. I'm going to take a nosedive. I'm just going down hard. I'm going to claim I can't podcast. I hit my head. We're just going to settle this out of court. Like, you know what I mean? I'm just. I'm just going full. Like in the Brady Bunch where the guy said he had whiplash. Like, I'm gonna show up with my own neck collar. I'm gonna dump booze all over myself and fall down in the bathroom and.

[Dave Rubin]

How much. How much more do you need? What, are you gonna sue Caruso? You have what you want.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not that I'm not actually taking it to court. I'm just. We're gonna settle up just for fun. No, I mean, we'll settle out of court. You know, I might. God's honest, I told Mark Garagos to go out to the car week this. This year, and he might go out. So maybe, you know, maybe a gargoyle would be right there, you know, standing on the dock, waiting for me to be removed from the ship, you know, on a stretch.

[Dave Rubin]

Like, he's done that. He's done that before.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God, the stories that guy could tell. So, good news. There's a yacht in my future. And, yes, I want the guy who built a business who can afford $100 million yacht. I would also like that guy in charge of aqueducts and clearing the forest and the homeless situation. Yes, I would like that super effective guy versus the DEI lady who's been a sort of in perpetuity, low level government. Government employee, basically working security at lax. Yes, yes, I would like someone who's built things. Yes.

[Dave Rubin]

Do you. Do you think it's a political ideology or a sort of way that we're wired to be jealous or not to be jealous. Like, I'm not a jealous person. I love when I'm around people who, like, I have the things that I want, but when I'm around people who have unbelievable abundance, like the sickest houses, you know, you and I have been around all sorts of these things, craziest boats, all these things. Like, I never. I truly mean this. I never feel jealousy. If anything, I'm like, oh, I have something to aspire to. Man, would that be freaking awesome to have a second home or, you know, have a place in Aspen or have a. This, that, the other thing or whatever I was at. Do you know Joe Lonsdale? He's a great, great guy. He was the co. Founder of Palantir with, With Teal, and he's done many, many tech things. You should. You should have him on the show if you haven't. He's a great, really great thinker also.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Dave Rubin]

And you? I was at his house for his podcast in Austin. He lives in the outskirts of Austin, kind of where Rogan is in that area, whatever that is. And, you know, he's beautiful house, big, sprawling, whatever. And I don't think I'm speaking out of school here. He has an indoor basketball court, and I love basketball, and I get on that court and I was like, man, I want to figure out a way to do this for myself. I never thought I should have what he has or something like. Like, it put something in me that now. Now if I'm thinking and I'm talking to my financial people or whatever, like, I would love to figure out one day to have an indoor basketball court in my house. It's pretty freaking hot when I'm playing out here in the summer, and I would love to do that, but I don't. But that's not jealousy. It's giving me something to aspire to. Where I think a lot of the people that you're talking about, there's this, like, the first lead emotion is either jealousy or often it's anger also. It's a very thin veneer of tolerance. And then right beneath it is something kind of nasty.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I agree. You could invite Sam Bowie to come over. You pay him hourly to play one on one.

[Dave Rubin]

That guy probably can't walk at this point. But Hakeem could come. Or Jordan.

[Adam Carolla]

So I got a lot of thoughts on that, which is in one of my books, I stated that there was a time in this country where a father would walk with the son out on the evening after dinner, and a big Mercedes would go by and it'd be heading up the hill. And the father would say to the son, that's Mr. Jenkins, he's very successful. He lives on the big house in the big house on top of the hill. And you work real hard and study and get your grades up. And you too one day can have the Mercedes and a house on the hill. And now the dad says, let's pick up a rock and throw it at Mr. Jenkins Mercedes. Fuck him, right? So that's what happened, right?

[Dave Rubin]

It's I'll throw the rock through his window, you burn down the hill. I'll meet you for ice cream later, right?

[Adam Carolla]

So now, unfortunately, politicians have figured out that there's a lot more guys walking around than there are Mr. Jenkins in the world. And also, like I said, and I think people think I'm sort of insane when I say this, but I really mean it. Like, I think about Karen Bass and then I think about Rick Caruso and I go, I'm sure. Elon Musk voted for Rick Caruso. And his vote was canceled out by my mom's vote for Karen Bass. Now, one guy creates thousands and thousands of jobs and another person sits home and hammers welfare checks. Why? Why do they have as much sway as they do? I like a system where you get a vote for every job you create. So, okay, I know everyone's gonna scream, but here's my whole point. Elon Musk's vote is canceled out by my mom's vote for Karen Bass, okay? And then we end up with Karen Bass. So there's a lot more of them, but I think a lot of it is shame. So I talk to Dr. Drew all the time and I'm like, what's with all these dumb fucks? Like, so angry and they're headstrong and they know it all and they've never done. I keep saying to Drew, imagine walking around knowing you didn't master anything. You didn't have a skill set, you didn't have an ability, you didn't create things. The people I know that have a skill set, like their carpenter or their great welder fabricator or something like that, they're not pent up. They don't have this kind of rage, this kind of shame rage at the tip of their tongue all the time. You know, you see those people and it's like that 73 year old white woman, and she clearly has done nothing with her entire time on this planet. She's in front of the Tesla dealership in Glendale. She's screaming and having a meltdown and you're like, you're somebody's grandmother. The fuck that person is. Shame. It's all shame. It's all envy. And the politicians figured out there's a lot more of them than there are Elon Musk. Don't even try to get him to vote for you.

[Dave Rubin]

Well, that's why class warfare is so dangerous, because there will always be more people on sort of the short end of the stick.

[Adam Carolla]

Right?

[Dave Rubin]

It's hard to go do something. It's hard to become a craftsman, you know, I'm sure you'll agree with this, but as an interviewer, one of the things that I've really learned over the years is that if someone on the other side, if someone that I'm interviewing is really passionate about the thing, whatever it is that they do, I enjoy the interview, even if I don't really care about what it is they do. You know what I mean? Like, I remember this May. This is gonna sound like a funny example, but about 15 years ago, well, before I was doing Rubin Report, I was on Sirius XM and I was interviewing Andy Cohen, who was taking over Bravo at the time. And he was just doing. It was just at the beginning. And he came in and like, I don't care about the Real Housewives. I don't care about any of this stuff. You know, he was a little sprightly for me or something.

[Adam Carolla]

How gay are you, by the way?

[Dave Rubin]

I like basketball.

[Adam Carolla]

You give me a night with a.

[Dave Rubin]

Chemo Iju on, I'm good to go. But that sounded weird to play basketball. I meant anyway. But I was sitting there and he was so passionate about all of the stuff that he was building with Bravo. And I was like, you know what? I don't care about any of the things, really. I don't care about the Housewives. I don't care about. Watch me. Watch what happens, or watch what I did or whatever the hell that show is.

[Adam Carolla]

But I was like, this guy loves.

[Dave Rubin]

What he does, so it's worth talking to him. And that's what you just said about the carpenter or anyone who's doing something. You creating something of value, it doesn't mean it's valuable to everyone. Yes, certain things, building things, physical things, is more valuable to everybody. But some people just don't have any of that. And then I suspect that's what leads you to being that I know the exact video you're talking about. That woman in front. I didn't. Was that in Glendale? I didn't realize that. In front of the Tesla factory.

[Adam Carolla]

Screaming.

[Mike Dawson]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, there's. I've seen countless videos of these people.

[Dave Rubin]

There's one. There's one that went mega viral a few weeks ago, or whatever it was of this. You know, you could just see the disheveled hair and the anger. And it was like. I think I literally. What I said on my show is, why aren't you with your grandkids? Which is exactly what you just said there.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, right. So I think a lot of it is shame based. I think a lot of it is not possessing a skill set. And a lot of it, they must feel vulnerable and also so, like, sad and angry. Like I was saying to Drew, just imagine not possess. Not having a field of expertise. Drew's so funny. He said to me, I am. I don't have any of that. I said, we're talking about building or something. I said, well, Drew, you make enough money, you have a skill set, and you can pay people to do your stuff. But there is a simple, the sanest thing you can do. And I like building, but I'm telling you, it's universal. I came to the back of this shop over the weekend, and I have a car hoist, and it's hydraulic. And when I hit the button, hydraulic fluid just starts shooting out like a rooster tail 10ft away and sopped all the floor and ruined everything. And I came here on Saturday and I took the thing apart, and I went to the hydraulic hose place in Glendale, off of San Fernando, and I had the guy make me up a hose and make sure I had the right fittings and crimped on the right fittings and everything. And then I came back and I fixed it, and then I lowered it down. Cause it was stuck up. And then I went home Saturday, and I felt like I'd done something. And during that entire process, I wasn't screaming about what's going on in the Middle east or what Trump's. Yeah, whatever Trump's up to, or his golf course. I was completely engaged in fixing this problem, and it pulled me away.

[Dave Rubin]

You're answering a great existential question, man. Like, do something with your life. Do something. Learn something. Find something. There is something that everybody is interested in, and it doesn't mean everyone has to be interested in it. But find something. And then if you do that, you will. You will ultimately surround yourself with good people. You know, you really, really will.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I'll. I'll. I'll expand that, which is my skill set as carpentry. I've never worked on a car hoist in my Life. But my experience has so much width and breadth to it that I can walk and look at something that I've never touched before and sort of figure it out and go get a hydraulic hose made and figure out how to apply it. And you can fix anything. If you fix a bunch of shit, you'll apply it to everything. I have no business in that field, but I didn't want to call a guy and get charged 1100 bucks for a $80 hose.

[Dave Rubin]

I got a question for you. I got a DeLorean, an old DeLorean back here with a flux capacitor, and I need to figure out a power source for this thing. You got any good ideas? I've been talking to some Libyans, but I'm not sure if that's going to work out.

[Adam Carolla]

Meet me in the parking lot at midnight under the old clock, and I will reveal to you. So, Dave, what do you do for your month away from all electronics?

[Dave Rubin]

Well, years ago. So this is my ninth year doing it. Years ago, disappear. We go to Bora Bora. Have you ever done the Bora Bora thing? You know, one of those Over. Oh, man, Corolla. I know you like being around physical things and doing things, but, like, if you ever want to truly disconnect, we used to do a lot of things like that. You know, these exotic, incredible places. Like, you feel like you're at the end of the earth and I don't to you.

[Adam Carolla]

Talk.

[Dave Rubin]

Talk to anybody for days and just eat great food and exercise and just, you know, completely disconnect now with kids. So we're not going to escape the way we used to. But for me, it's really just about getting off the machines. It really is. Like, whether I'm just going to be hanging out at home or working out or cooking or, you know, we're doing a bunch of house projects right now. I should probably text you some funny stories about contractors that I don't want to tell on air. But, you know, we're just gonna do a lot of stuff and just. I'm gonna just try to be as present as possible. You know, one cool thing that happens every year without fail, two things happen. At some point in the month I suddenly will remember somebody I have not thought of for 30 or 40 years, literally. I'll be like. I'll just be sitting there having lunch, and then suddenly a name will pop in my head. Rich.

[Adam Carolla]

Rich.

[Dave Rubin]

And I'll be like, what? And I'm thinking about the kid who sat next to me in third grade who I haven't thought of in. You know, I literally haven't thought of in 40 years. And then the other thing is, I can suddenly remember every word of any song ever. It's because it's all in your brain. We're just on. We're just inundated with craziness. So for me, it's about just. It's about resetting it. Also, it gives me fresh eyes to come back and do the political thing that I'm doing every day. You know, in our world, how many of the guys that we've been doing this with, they end up going crazy or hysterical or whatever. And I think it's been one of the ways that I just come back. I think I sit away for a little bit, and guess what? The world will still be here when I get back. Maybe it's a little bit better, maybe it's a little bit worse, but it'll be here. And just try to get some perspective.

[Adam Carolla]

On life, you know, it's interesting that you bring that up, because I don't do what you do for a month, but I will do it for a day. So I spent the day going back and forth. Kind of reminded me of like the olden days for me, like standing outside the little shop telling the guy about the fitting and the compressor and hydraulic. And I'm like, do you have hydraulic fluid? Or do I have to go to the auto parts place or whatever? And there I am. And I have all these old memories that started popping up as well. And I stopped and I thought, I haven't thought about that guy since junior high or popcorn or football or something. It just kept popping up and I didn't connect it to anything. But now I realize it's not looking at my phone, not looking at the tv.

[Dave Rubin]

Adam, remember back in the day, you'd meet a friend for dinner, or you'd meet a friend at a bar or something, or you're going to meet a girl at a bar and you'd be like, okay, so let's meet on 6th and A. Or whatever. I'll meet you there at 7:30. Well, if she didn't show up at 7:30, you'd have to stand there and, you know, we used to do. It's called people watching. You'd literally just stand there, and because you had nothing in your hand, you would just look at people, and then you'd start thinking about things and your brain would. And we've removed all of those little gaps in our world. We've just removed them. Because the second you are not Interacting with something, you're interacting with something else. And by the way, I'm guilty of it, too. You know, we go to commercial break on my show, I grab this stupid thing and I'm looking at Twitter. So we're all caught in this thing, and I think if we can get a little bit back to some of that downtime, not staring at the phone all the time, not being caught in algorithms that. That perhaps are not designed to make us better people, something good might happen.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. And in closing, I will say I think a lot of people think ayahuasca or, I gotta go get a coffee enema or go with some yogi somewhere. Just have yourself a weekend with a bunch of shit to do. Go wash, go clean your garage. Just go down to the Home Depot, pick up a couple parts, come back, little trial and error, see if we can just monkey around. Just get your hands a little bit dirty. It'll take you right out of it. You don't need to consult anybody.

[Dave Rubin]

Go to the grocery store, find a little person, help them get lettuce.

[Adam Carolla]

Help them get them.

[Dave Rubin]

There's a zillion things that you can do to help society.

[Adam Carolla]

Comedian Brad Williams is gonna be on this show tomorrow, and I'm gonna build him in my shop. Speaking of a lettuce ladder so that the little folks can get their head of lettuce as well. Well, well, the tequila is copal. C, O, P, A. Sorry, I was thinking of the doctor from the Love Boat. It's a deep cut there, Bernie Copel.

[Dave Rubin]

I got it, I got it.

[Adam Carolla]

I knew you would. And you go drink Copal. C, O, P, L, A, L. Say hi to David for me and Hope. See you soon, my friend.

[Dave Rubin]

Carolla, I'll see you on the other side.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Mike Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

Now back to the show. All right, Alicia Krause is in the studio. She got news. I got stuff to talk to you about as well.

[Chuck Mangione]

Do you mean my opinion on some things?

[Adam Carolla]

I just laugh. I don't know why I have these flashbacks. I had a flashback when I was watching some CNN reporter talk about dogs and dog food and how bad it was for the environment and everything. And I was like, wasn't that the bitch I saw four years ago standing at Daytona beach going, Ron DeSantis has reopened the beaches. These people aren't socially distancing.

[Chuck Mangione]

We're all gonna die.

[Adam Carolla]

Look at those. Look at that couple lying next to each other in the sun on a towel. And. And it was like. And they had to cut back to Anderson Cooper looking real concerned, you know what I mean? Like, they dispatched someone to go to the safest place you could go.

[Chuck Mangione]

Also remember when then Anderson Cooper was like down hanging out in like the gay party part of South Beach?

[Adam Carolla]

Of course.

[Chuck Mangione]

Also during COVID Also I AOC did the same thing.

[Adam Carolla]

I hate when someone is trying to illustrate a point and does a piss poor job of it. So CNN, oh, I know, was complaining about Ron DeSantis opening Daytona beach or the beach and their B roll were guys walking alone down the beach. And I'm like, that's the best thing you can do during COVID is walk alone on a beach.

[Chuck Mangione]

We also know all the doctors that I talked to during that time, they were like, vitamin D was what was saving lives and exercise.

[Adam Carolla]

Like you if you went to the beach. All right, so I was like, that dumb bitch. Now she's complaining about dog food. But before, she was scaring everyone about COVID And then when I saw this latest Kristen Welker thing. Now I have a thought for you. And you're a newswoman. I am fair and balanced.

[Chuck Mangione]

I don't know if I'm fair or.

[Adam Carolla]

Balanced, but here's something. And I have a theory. And are you ready? It dovetails into my. Women are fighting more and stuff like that. Like, like you step on a woman's foot, she punches you. They're having a little trouble maintaining. Do you see what I'm saying?

[Chuck Mangione]

Self regulating, you mean?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, okay, okay. So here's my theory. And I think it's sort of biological and a little hormonal. And you've seen it like with Leslie Stahl and stuff. It's like, well, part of your brain as a woman goes, I'm Lesley Stahl, I work for 60 minutes. I have to conduct an interview. And it's gotta look down the middle because I can't look like a partisan cheerleader hack that I am. But now Donald Trump is saying something, and I'm not an interviewer at this point. I'm a woman and I fuck you. And I'm gonna argue, sir, Sir. And it's like all of a sudden not professional.

[Chuck Mangione]

I don't think that you're being too gracious to her. I don't think that she has that journalist. I'm gonna be fair and balanced part of her brain.

[Adam Carolla]

I think most journalists, at least if you work for Sigma, you have to have some veneer of. I can't walk out there and go, I hate this guy. And I. And I'm voting, I'm voting a different direction.

[Chuck Mangione]

But they did it to, like Sarah. Katie Couric did it to Sarah Palin. Like Chris Matthews did it to George W. And Cheney. Like, I think it's just all the media. No, they get hormonally off.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I agree. But the women I will say, statistically are easy. They can. You can animate them faster and they can get off of their sort of professional gait. Like Leslie stahl became an 11 year old girl. Sir, sir, no, you can't. Sir, it wasn't. There's a professional. Sir. Anderson Cooper will keep it together. He'll argue. But it's like, oh, that guy's got. That guy's smooth or something. They don't get like, you're not.

[Chuck Mangione]

They get a little amped up instead of you dodging their question or you giving them an answer they don't like, like, personally offends them.

[Adam Carolla]

Women will get more. You'll get them emotional faster and you'll see more of who they really are.

[Chuck Mangione]

You are making my case of like, men and women are different points. 10. 10.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So Kristen Welker is interviewing Lindsey Graham. And you know, she's gonna ask tough questions and she comes from a perspective, but she's on NBC, so she's. This is Meet the Press. It's not Democrats go after Republicans on Sunday. It's Meet the Press. All right, so. But you'll see her jump in. She'll start to become a woman and less a anchor. That's not bad.

[Chuck Mangione]

I mean, I mean, she is a woman anchor.

[Adam Carolla]

She'll become a woman anchor. There she is.

[Kristen Welker]

Senator, as you know, former President Obama has weighed in through a spokesperson. He says that's just patently false. I actually spoke to Susan Miller, who's a former senior CIA officer who helped oversee the 2017 intelligence assessment on Russian interference. She says it's completely false that Obama or anyone else asked them to change or sway their investigation. She says they all. She says, and she's a Republican, says they all would have quit if that had happened. Senator, are you trying to rewrite history to distract from the Epstein matter? Senator?

[Lindsey Graham]

No, I'm, I'm trying to let you know and the media know that we found something we didn't know before. At the end of the day, I'm not calling for a prosecution against President Obama for treason, but I am calling for an investigation. Mr. Miller also said there was no credible evidence that President Trump colluded with the Russians. For years and months and days and weeks, people had their lives turned upside down chasing the Mueller narrative, that Trump was in bed with the Russian, that the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians. The only people colluding with the Russians were the Hillary Clinton campaign and Christopher Steele manufacturing a document to get warrants against Carter Page based on lies and falsehoods. So, yeah, I'm very familiar with it. What you don't seem to acknowledge is there's something new being found. Rather than reinventing the wheel here, let's go back to a special counsel model to look at this. Something new. Something new is statements by President Obama. I don't like your analysis. Russia wasn't involved here in 2016.

[Kristen Welker]

Senator, you're saying there's something new. This report goes back to 2020. It's five years old. There's actually nothing new in this report and nothing that changes any conclusion. But let me.

[Adam Carolla]

I want to talk about.

[Lindsey Graham]

Turned over is new to me.

[Kristen Welker]

I knew.

[Lindsey Graham]

To me. But, Senator, you're trying to sweep this stuff under the rug, and that's not right.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, but a reporter would go, well, what's new? Tell me what you found.

[Chuck Mangione]

Be like, well, I talked to President Obama and like, this is fine.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. It's just like, stop being a cheerleader.

[Chuck Mangione]

It's because they all have cusses on Obama still.

[Adam Carolla]

I do. But then I realized Kristen Welker, that's the dunce who presided over the 2020 debate with Trump and Biden.

[Chuck Mangione]

Biden was half dead.

[Adam Carolla]

He was half dead at that point.

[Chuck Mangione]

He wasn't on the Ambien.

[Adam Carolla]

I wasn't pumped full of Ambien. Now, this one I love because a, he's talking about Russiagate in this. And she is like, can we get back to race? Can we stop talking? Can we talk about race? It's like, do we really need the president to denounce the Klan? How much race talk. Can we talk a little more? Okay. It's funny. Cause she. She keeps wanting to talk about race.

[Chuck Mangione]

Pivot. Pivot.

[Adam Carolla]

It's beautiful. Yeah.

[Dave Rubin]

Joe, they're calling you a corrupt politician.

[Kristen Welker]

Nobody's President Trump. I want to stay on the issue of race. We're talking about the issue. President Trump talking about race right now. And I do want to stay on the issue of race.

[Adam Carolla]

He's talking about Russia and laptops and she's. Race. No, race. We have to keep talking about race. You have to distract everyone and anger everyone by talking about race.

[Chuck Mangione]

I really. I would love to be a debate moderator. We should do it together, maybe. Because sometimes being a news nerd that pays attention to polling and, like, what voter perception is on things, I get so fascinated and also really annoyed. And this is why I think you're giving her and other mainstream media outlets way too much credit when you're like, they're putting on their journalism cap and then they put on Their women, cap. No, they think that their journalism is leftism and leftism is journalism.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Chuck Mangione]

And they ask dumb questions like, nobody in 2020 cared about BLM. They cared about the economy and schools being closed and a lot of other things.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. No, I would say nobody ever says, I'm voting Democrat. They would never say that.

[Chuck Mangione]

True.

[Adam Carolla]

And the reason they would never say that is cuz they don't want you to know. They would. They don't want, you know, but they don't realize. You do know.

[Chuck Mangione]

They think that they can hoodwink us all.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you bring it up. Well, why don't they just go, I'm voting for Biden?

[Chuck Mangione]

I mean, I think. Yeah, because they like to have the allure of being unbiased.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I'm saying. Even though that's what they do. You're saying, first off, you're agreeing with me and disagreeing simultaneously.

[Chuck Mangione]

I think that you're giving her more credit by saying, oh, she put on her journalist hat than she put on her woman hat. I think that she thinks, like, she is.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't.

[Chuck Mangione]

Like you're like, oh, they think they're unbiased.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't think they say. They think they're unbiased.

[Chuck Mangione]

I could have sworn you started the segment with that.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, no, listen, listen to me, listen to me, listen to me. They don't want you to know what they're thinking. That's why they never say how they vote. And that's why they get indignant when at some point some politician will say to them, leslie Stalin, go, I know how you vote, sir. You do not know how I vote. I assure you that it's like, yeah, bitch, we know. Exactly. They don't want you to know.

[Chuck Mangione]

Then they gotta work on doing a.

[Adam Carolla]

Better job of hiding. It's easy to draw them out. And it's easier to draw out women because they get more emotional more quickly.

[Chuck Mangione]

And I'm saying, I don't even think that you have to draw them out. Like, you can tell by the, the stylistic observations of, like, the questions that they ask.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah, I know what it is.

[Chuck Mangione]

Like, I'm not.

[Adam Carolla]

Anyway, I think we're kind of saying the same things. Women, all right, anyway, but men and women different.

[Chuck Mangione]

Men and women different.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I'm saying. And I'm saying they pulls them out. They get off their game faster.

[Chuck Mangione]

Yes. I think they get more emotional faster.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Chuck Mangione]

Like the emotional reaction faster. Although Chris Matthews might have a lot of estrogen, there's a Couple.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a couple, those guys out there. But by and large, they try to maintain some sort of patina of bipartisanship. And then they get angry.

[Chuck Mangione]

What would Dr. Drew like, what is the medical name? Because I would say that they're lying to themselves. They've lied to themselves so much that they might believe it even though the rest of the world can see the truth. What is the medical name for that?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I mean, I'll come up the diagnosis in a minute. They know. It's sort of like, let's just say you were gay but you didn't want the world to find out, you know, and then someone made a gay joke about you and you went nuts. Like, it's like, why are you protesting so much? Sure. You don't know how I vote. You know, like, they get really.

[Chuck Mangione]

The projection.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, they do a lot of. And then like you were talking and then there was like some straight trucker and he's like, God, man, I hate these homos. And they're like, well, now hold on a second. And next thing you know, you're arguing with the guy, but pretending to be straight. They just show their hand. It's easy. I think they sort of believe themselves they're in a kind of a nether world, but they don't see what we see. Like when Leslie Stahl starts arguing with Trump, she's not outside witnessing herself, she's just reacting.

[Chuck Mangione]

Yeah. It's like if she had read the papers, they might be dated 2020, but senators like the Senate Services Committee and all these places didn't see the papers until recently. Like, that's why Lindsey Graham's talking about it. Yeah, it's just a dumb question or like a dumb follow up on her part.

[Adam Carolla]

You're there to interview Lindsey Graham about what he knows about this particular issue, not filibust and argue.

[Chuck Mangione]

And you and I both know how headlines work. Like, he could know something that was in all of that stuff that the American viewer doesn't know. And she could have had a trending interview if he released a piece of information that wasn't publicly talked about yet.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Now the thing that's going on now where a lot of people are like, well, how come CNN or the Los Angeles Times, the New York Times or NBC, cbs? How come no one's reporting this story and they're doing the same thing they did with COVID they'd be reporting on themselves. They're the ones who did the story. They're the ones who misled the country, just like they misled with COVID So people say, how come these people aren't apologizing for Covid? That's outing themselves as shitty news organizations.

[Mike Dawson]

I think it's far more sinister than that.

[Adam Carolla]

You do?

[Mike Dawson]

I do.

[Chuck Mangione]

It's like they're blatantly trying to.

[Mike Dawson]

I don't know. Do you remember that? Do you remember seeing that thing? That was total propaganda with all of the news sources, every single local news channel all across the nation reading from the exact same script.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. But I. You can also sort of attribute it to when these guys, the Democrats, put out a buzzword, you know what I mean? And then everybody uses it. Grabs the buzzword. Yeah. And I sort of get where you're at.

[Mike Dawson]

Existential crisis was last year.

[Adam Carolla]

They would be if CNN said, you know, it looks like there's some meat on the bone here to this whole Obama Russiagate thing and the Steele dossier. They'd be basically saying we're the worst news organization ever because for four years that's all we did was talk to Adam Schiff about this.

[Chuck Mangione]

Yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

It comes down to stupid or liar.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

Because they're not stupid or liar.

[Adam Carolla]

Can you be both?

[Mike Dawson]

Yes, yes, they were lying, but I don't think, I think that their, their cover up and not covering it now goes, Goes a lot further than, oh, we got egg on our face.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, why, but why? Why? No, what they look like is a place you shouldn't turn to, to get journalism from because you go, they got everything wrong.

[Chuck Mangione]

And, and there's no accountability.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

All right, what do you got in the news department?

[Chuck Mangione]

Well, we got like a trending story of the day. Everyone is talking about Pedro Pascal's hot girl anxiety or how did, how was I supposed to say this? Pedro Pasquale. Somebody told me and I was like, I don't think it's Pasquale. So he is on the Fantastic Four. Marvel is releasing Fantastic Four. He plays isn't it Dr. Reed Richards.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't like the idea that all these comic book things have somehow swept the country. Like, it's weird to me when I talk to adult dudes who are really into comic books and stuff.

[Chuck Mangione]

Comic Con just happened. Or is it still happening right now too, down in San Diego?

[Dave Rubin]

Yeah.

[Chuck Mangione]

You're not like a Comic Con attendee. No, no.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't believe adult males are supposed to be fucking around with this shit. I really don't. I just don't. You're supposed to build shit and fix shit. You're not supposed to do this.

[Chuck Mangione]

Okay, so don't go see the movie. Not Adam is a non endorsement.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't mind that. There's a Superman movie and there's a Fantastic Four movie and it's fine. It shouldn't be. No number one and number two every single weekend. And guys shouldn't be talking about. The best guy is when the guy's devastated by how crappy that Marvel offering was. Like, dude, you're 47. Get your shit together. You shouldn't be emotionally crippled.

[Chuck Mangione]

Take your kids to see the movie.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, take your kids. Take your kids to see the movie. So Pascal, who I don't like. Cause he's the one who's always arguing with what's her name about trans rights or whatever.

[Chuck Mangione]

Oh gosh, he's a douche. He looks good for being 50, though. He's 50. And apparently in a 2023 interview, he told his last of us co star Bella Ramsey that he apparently he places a hand on his chest or reaches out to someone close to him to help manage his anxiety during high stress moments. So now it. The Internet is all abuzz. Specifically social Media because they're like, whoa, he's super touchy feely with his co stars on the red carpet and sometimes his co stars spouses. So we have this montage and we have like psychiatrists and doctors that are saying like, yeah, this is a thing. Like this is sometimes how people self touch and these things. It's like how people deal with anxiety.

[Adam Carolla]

Self touch. I like that euphemism, baby. I'm gonna go with that. Let me see if I can put that in a sentence. My stepmom caught me self touching in the guest bathroom.

[Chuck Mangione]

And did you tell her it was because of anxiety and a high stress situation? So we have this montage of him and now this is. Who is this? Vanessa Kirby.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm.

[Chuck Mangione]

This is insane to me.

[Dave Rubin]

She's married. He's my.

[Adam Carolla]

I think this is my favorite image so far. Just her hands she's rubbing on first day. As long as you don't have to see my face. Terrible confession to make in front of Gordon. It's some of the best.

[Chuck Mangione]

Some of the best men in the world. So they don't count.

[Adam Carolla]

So she's grabbing all up on him.

[Chuck Mangione]

So people are saying like, oh, this is creepy. Like, hands on the. I only. My husband puts his hands on my waist like that. Like that is. And then. So she is married. And so then people are like, hey, this is creepy because he is a bigger star than she is. Although she's like pretty dang famous and obviously very hot and.

[Adam Carolla]

But is she pregnant?

[Chuck Mangione]

In the movie she plays that she's pregnant.

[Adam Carolla]

I just. I've seen pictures or clips or something where it looks like a baby bump.

[Chuck Mangione]

Oh, no, don't get me started on this.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know what Adam. I don't know if that is. Or maybe. Maybe it's just. Am I no making that up? I mean, doesn't it.

[Chuck Mangione]

I don't think she's pregnant. But also, if I stood up and did a twirl, YouTube commenters could say that I look pregnant.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, I think she kind of looked.

[Mike Dawson]

Pregnant from an angle.

[Adam Carolla]

She kind of looks pregnant from an angle. I don't know what's going on.

[Chuck Mangione]

I don't like it when like, Jennifer.

[Mike Dawson]

Aniston's bodysuit isn't helping. Yeah, she's pregnant.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. She looks stopping wrong for five minutes and we can move on with the goddamn show.

[Chuck Mangione]

It's so hard to tell there. She looks so tiny.

[Adam Carolla]

I told you she looked pregnant. I don't know what else I can say. I'm going to go back and fix.

[Chuck Mangione]

Just so he's okay right there. Freeze frame. She looks pregnant. You are right. I was wrong.

[Dave Rubin]

Thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Chuck Mangione]

If only Leslie Stahl could do that.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, sir. She's not pregnant. Sir, we're 60 minutes, sir, we can't.

[Chuck Mangione]

But see, you're right. I got a little emotional because I get so pissed off at the, like, social media commentators that, like, critique women's bodies all the time while they're like.

[Adam Carolla]

That'S what you did.

[Chuck Mangione]

Fat and, like, eating Cheetos.

[Adam Carolla]

You got triggered.

[Chuck Mangione]

I got triggered. So psychologists speaking to the Daily Mail said this, that physical touch of oneself or another person is one of the most powerful and natural ways to cope with anxiety disorders, which they say affects nearly one in five u. S. Adults. But social media is abrupt, saying that this is just creepy. So look what he does to William Defoe's wife right here.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Oh, man. What was that?

[Chuck Mangione]

What was that?

[Adam Carolla]

She rubbing her chin.

[Chuck Mangione]

That seems very personal. Like, that seems.

[Adam Carolla]

I want to say this. Whether it's Biden sniffing chicks hair, don't do it in front of cameras. Do it on your own. We all have our own predilections physically, and we don't do it in front of the core of guys with cameras, you know what I mean? Because they catch the.

[Chuck Mangione]

Well, and I get that, like, anxiety can be something. Like, they talk about breathing is important. And so he's saying that he gets anxiety.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll tell you what he's doing. I'll tell you what he's doing.

[Chuck Mangione]

He's using it as an excuse.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, first off, he's a puss. That's number one. Because he argues. The one who's always arguing with the. What's her name? About the trans. Whatever. You guys don't know that story. Andrew, you must know that story. He argues with the J.K. rowling. J.K. rowling.

[Chuck Mangione]

Oh, I didn't know.

[Adam Carolla]

He argues with J.K. rowling about the trans stuff. So he's just puss. That's number one. Only pussy guys talk about anxiety. Regular guys don't have anxiety. They don't know what it is. Pussies talk about anxiety. So he's a puss. And he argues with J.K. rowling, and it's very important to him that everyone be trans. But also he's from, like, Spain or something. Where is he from?

[Chuck Mangione]

Oh, so you think it's kind of like a cultural thing?

[Adam Carolla]

Gays get to touch. Let me tell you, the two touch years. The touchies, the Spanish, you know, the Spain, you know, sort of Euro, whatever. And then gay guys. Gay guys get to get up and touch whoever they want. Cause. Oh, come on, don't flatter yourself. They can do whatever that. It's, like, part of the culture.

[Chuck Mangione]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So you get a little. He's from Chile.

[Mike Dawson]

Point proven.

[Adam Carolla]

He gets a little international excuse. What if he's both gay and from Chile and has been from Chile?

[Chuck Mangione]

It's like the trifecta.

[Adam Carolla]

You can do what Donald Trump bragged to Billy Bush about, and no court in the land will convict you.

[Chuck Mangione]

You know, that's so true. I had a roommate in New York when I was young and way cuter, and she loved, like, salsa dancing. And she would beg me to go to salsa clubs with her. And after, like, the fourth time, I said, I can't do it anymore. Because you will tell a gentleman at a salsa club, like, oh, I'm done dancing. Or, like, move their hand because of where they place things. And it's just. It is so cultural.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Chuck Mangione]

Like that. They just are so used to.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no.

[Chuck Mangione]

This is how we dance. This is what we do.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. They go. We greet each other. We kiss each other. You know what I mean? And in certain cultures. And you go, oh, okay, well, that's what we do. And you go, okay, well, I don't want to look like a bumpkin, so go ahead and kiss up.

[Chuck Mangione]

So do you think this is predatory and creepy behavior, like half of the Internet thing, or you think that it is more cultural gay for him?

[Adam Carolla]

Cultural. Possible gay. He's also puss. And I hearken back to a story I told Andrew about. I don't know if he found it or not, but there was a story. Speaking of his anxiety. There was a story on TMZ probably two years ago, maybe a little more. Do you ever find that, by the way, Andrew? Where? Oh, we did. Oh, well, I'll show it to you. But this, if you have anxiety.

[Chuck Mangione]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And I'm not a physician, But I think Dr. Drew would probably warn you against this practice if you had anxiety.

[Chuck Mangione]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so we'll play it for you in a second. Cause we're looking for it. But I didn't know who Pedro Pascal was. I didn't really know. It was, like, two years ago.

[Chuck Mangione]

He's really blown up. He's, like, become this superstar now.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't watch all the shows and stuff. I just didn't know. I mean, I looked at him, went, oh, yeah, that guy's on a TV show. But I didn't care. But it stuck in my head that.

[Chuck Mangione]

Well, he also, like, started the zaddy trend. At least that's when I saw it.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, what's zaddy?

[Chuck Mangione]

Daddy's like an older hot dad.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I'm all for that.

[Chuck Mangione]

You know, that's when I saw him kind of just blowing up on Social.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, this is. This is how he orders at Starbucks. Go ahead. Hey, Pedro, how many shots of coffee.

[Dave Rubin]

Do you got in that cup? 12. Nice, man.

[Adam Carolla]

Have a great day, brother. They broke it down. They looked at the label that was on the. That was on the cup. This wasn't the one I was talking about. There was one where they zoomed in.

[Chuck Mangione]

And it was like, a ton of shots.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it was like 12 shots of espresso in his cough. I mean, enough caffeine to kill a hippo in his cup. And there was another one. You gotta find Andrew, where they actually zoomed in on the receipt label. You know, where they stick to the cup that says, here's how you like it. And I don't remember being 12. That sounded like too much. But we'll see. We'll see if they do.

[Chuck Mangione]

You think that the Starbucks barista, like, gets his name wrong?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he goes with Jim. Sorry for everyone asking about Pedro's Starbucks order.

[Kristen Welker]

I squad espresso in a venti cup.

[Chuck Mangione]

Extra ice, six shots.

[Adam Carolla]

Six shots. All right. Six shots.

[Chuck Mangione]

That is so much.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm saying if you went to any. If you went to a voodoo doctor in the rainforest and said, I have anxiety, that person would say, do not drink six shots of Starbucks in your.

[Chuck Mangione]

It's like ADD and anxiety. You should probably just stay away from sugar and caffeine in general.

[Mike Dawson]

On top of that. Have you discussed this with Dr. Drew? I think he would be the first thing to say that that guy is an addict. He's addicted to something.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh.

[Chuck Mangione]

Like touching his co stars in a very sensual way.

[Adam Carolla]

I will say this, and I know nothing, but you can look it up. I would say former addict. Because the guys. The guys you see with the foot tapping all the time, who are like, chain smoking, and they're like, dude, when I get back from the tattoo parlor, we're going free BASE jumping, man. We're skydiving. We go BASE jumping.

[Chuck Mangione]

You go like the extremes.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that's an act. Oh, and then you go, what were you doing a year ago, living in the streets, slamming heroin. You know what I mean? And they give it up and they go right into coffee and cigarettes and foot tapping and stimulants. Like, I know these guys, so.

[Chuck Mangione]

But psychiatrists and psychologists are Saying that this, like, the touching thing can be helping reduce his anxiety and releasing all oxytocin and limiting cortisol levels.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't, I don't doubt, I don't doubt. If you let me go on the red carpet with my dog, I would, I would have a better time of it petting my dog.

[Mike Dawson]

But the prescription is touching Willem Dafoe's wife's face.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right.

[Chuck Mangione]

Do you want to, do you want to do one of the, the patterns, though, that they say that you should do if you're having anxious moments? Do you want to do a practice. Yeah, like take a hand and put it over your heart and like, deep breaths.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I'll say a shot of rum, a shot of brandy, and then somebody slapping you and yelling, get hold of yourself. That's what the doctor ordered in the past and it fucking worked.

[Chuck Mangione]

It did.

[Adam Carolla]

Shot of brandy, then somebody slaps you and yells, get hold of yourself.

[Chuck Mangione]

You're not gonna do a butterfly hug. That's the other one. Shot of booze and like, butterfly hug.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't, I, I have a problem. My problem is I have thoughts. And these thoughts are not sympathetic toward most people. But what they don't realize is I don't like us talking about our racist society over and over. Cuz I feel like you're fucking up people and you shouldn't be talking that way. The message should be, show up, make hay while the sun shines. No better country to do it than this country. Stop turning people into victims. You're ruining these people. When people say, I have anxiety, I have anxiety, I have anxiety, I go, shut up, you're fine, get busy. And then everyone looks at me and goes, what the guy? Look at this anxiety. If you go, rub his forehead and try to sue them and go, oh my God, you have anxiety, you make it worse. Everyone's got something and we've all made.

[Chuck Mangione]

It worse, saying like, live life, move on.

[Adam Carolla]

Live life, move on. I'm allergic to. Shut up and eat it. Shut up, eat it.

[Chuck Mangione]

And then if you have anaphylactic shock, Adam has an epipenic.

[Adam Carolla]

No one will miss you. You're gonna miss your whiny ass.

[Chuck Mangione]

Speaking of whining, so there's been a cadre of comedians and late night hosts that have been whining about the Colbert cancellation. For the record, there's a Jay Leno interview with my buddy Dave Truglio over at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation Institute. I think was taped right before the announcement. But I mean, I wrote about this in this week's op Ed, like, make comedy funny again. Like, remember when Leno and Letterman would rip on, like, Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton? And like, those days seem so long gone.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chuck Mangione]

And so Leno makes a really good point here that I'm sure that I would like your feedback on.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Jay Leno]

And to me, I like to think that people come to a comedy show to kind of get away from the things, you know, the pressures of life, wherever it might be. And I love political humor. I don't get me wrong. But it's just what happens with people wind up cozying too much to one side or the other.

[Adam Carolla]

Comedy can be used to unite or divide people. Do you have any advice on how we can use for common ground?

[Jay Leno]

Lance is a great uniter. You know, funny is funny. People even, you know, it's funny when someone who's not, when you make fun of their side and they laugh at it. You know, I just find getting out. I don't think anybody wants to hear elections. You know, to me, it's just when I was with Rodney, it was always the economy. Awards get to the joke as quickly as possible.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, and it's worth noting that both you and Rodney Dangerfield experienced and have been experiencing enormous success.

[Dave Rubin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

So your approach worked in the marketplace.

[Jay Leno]

Well, why shoot for just half an audience all the time? You know, why not try to get the whole. I mean, I like to bring people into the big picture.

[Dave Rubin]

I don't.

[Jay Leno]

I don't understand why you would alienate one particular group or just don't do it at all. I'm not saying you have to throw your support or whatever, but just do what's funny.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Well, that, by the way, was done in his shop.

[Chuck Mangione]

Isn't that cool, though?

[Adam Carolla]

Just for that? Yeah, I like the guy. Been there a few times. Yeah, I mean, there's a kind of a two schools of thought. You go, why are you alienating half the country? And then the other is, well, if you just go real hard in one direction, then you'll just. You'll have to deal with 165 million fans in this country. And a lot of people go, well, that's enough to fill a 400 seat comedy venue. Simply safe. Here's the deal with most security systems, they wait until after someone breaks in, and by then it's too late. I use Simplisafe because it actually stops crime before it starts. Imagine that. A little prevention. Mm. Their active guard outdoor protection has these AI cameras and real people watching. They're looking over Your place. And if some creep is lurking around, agents can talk to them or flip on spotlights or even call the cops, right then. Not after your stuff is gone or someone's in your living room. No contracts, no hidden fees. None of that nonsense. And over 4 million people trust SimpliSafe. So it's not just me. A bunch of other smart people trust me. Them as well. Plans start at about a buck a day. You get 60 days to try it. Money back guarantee if you don't like it. But you will. There's two I's in there. It's SimpliSafe. Right? Dawson?

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[Adam Carolla]

You know, I don't really. Here's my whole thing. I don't care what direction you personally want to go. I just want you to declare that's who you are. And we're circling back to Lesley Stahl and, and Kristen Welker and stuff like that. Stop pretending just to be an independent journalist or something. Just say who you are and then go find an audience. And that's fine. I mean, that's what Sean Hannity does. He goes, this is what I do. I talk about this and I believe it. And it's not, you know, I'm doing commentary, a lot of commentary. And that's fine. If you want to be a comedian, do it that way. The problem with late night is you're not there to do a political show. You're there to do a sort of variety show. And it can be whatever format you want, but then format that you inherited wasn't that. And that's not what Letterman gave to you.

[Chuck Mangione]

And it's also like, I think Colbert came from that Jon Stewart, Comedy Central to being the funny correspondent, like liberal correspondent. That was like trying to essentially Borat politicians on the right.

[Dave Rubin]

Right, right.

[Chuck Mangione]

And I think that when he brought that in to network tv to the Legacy, the, you know, three decade legacy of that show, like you said, it just didn't work. Because I would actually, my only counter argument would be, I don't know that it's 165 versus 165. I think that maybe it's like 50 million on the right, 50 million on the left, and then there's a whole bunch of people in the middle that just want to live life and left.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I agree with that. You're right.

[Chuck Mangione]

And so it's like, just help us live a life a little lighter, a little funnier and make us laugh.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I agree. But also these people get into this environment where they're never. No one's said no to them in a long time. And once that, you get in that environment for a while, you really start just doing your own thing. And Leno is much different. And I was surprised when I would do his show. I was honestly surprised how people spoke to him. I'd be up there doing a dry run, a rehearsal run on some bit we were doing together or something like that. Maybe this was for his 10 o' clock show, but also for when he had the 11:30 show. And he'd have his head writer guy just sort of sitting in the pews there, people sitting around headsets and stuff. And his guy would be like, jay, don't do it that way. It's not funny. Do it the way we remember that. We talked about doing it the other way. And Jay'd be like, you want me to go back and do it? And he'd go, yeah, Jay, do it the way we talked about. It's funnier. It's not funny this way. And like I kind of sitting there going, wow. Cause you didn't do that to Letterman and you didn't do that to a lot. You wouldn't do that to a lot of these guys.

[Chuck Mangione]

The fact that he could handle the constructive criticism.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, like somebody could say to him, not that they need to, but go like, hey, man, you've been talking about politics. Like the last four shows and the last three monologues, where I timed it, it was like eight minutes of politics and only three minutes of world events kind of going hard against the Republicans. It just doesn't feel that balance. Somebody probably should have said to Colbert, his head writer, whatever. Like, look, man, the monologue is becoming like a political rally, man. I mean, four and a half years ago or six years ago, and went, let's tack back toward kind of the center and talking about events and world events and local events. But let's look a little less with the politics. Like, someone should have said something. And a lot of them thought it, I'm sure, but no one's. They were scared to say anything.

[Chuck Mangione]

They're scared to admit when something is unfunny. I also think that when you have that level of, like, fame and power and multimillion dollar contracts, you then just bring in all of your yes men.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Or they get converted to yes men, like, really quick.

[Chuck Mangione]

I mean, it pays the bill.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Chuck Mangione]

I think that that happens a lot in politics as well.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh. It's basically like saying this. Okay. Ellen was a total bitch to everybody, and everyone was scared of her. And I used to tell everybody this way before any of the. Ellen is a bitch to also. I mean, 20 years ago, I said, everyone's scared shitless of her because she must be a witch at work. And everyone just was scared, really. But they didn't say anything. No one. The story came out three years ago or whatever, I thought.

[Chuck Mangione]

So you're saying you were saying it long before.

[Adam Carolla]

If you see a staff or employees or children who are scared shitless of, like, their dad, that's a bad dad. Respect is one thing, but scared. Everyone was scared. Ellen was. She's a vegetarian. How many folks would come in and bring a roast beef sandwich in for lunch and, like, sit down and eat it in the writer's room if Ellen was at the table? And the answer is, they wouldn't.

[Chuck Mangione]

She would, like, berate them for their personal food choices.

[Adam Carolla]

They would get the message that Ellen was not into this, and I don't even think they would do it. And so then you would go, so she only hired vegans? And you'd go, no, but they didn't eat the fucking ribs in front of her. Okay. Cause they were scared.

[Chuck Mangione]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And so that's kind of what ends up happening. You don't know how many people actually agree, but they're not bringing it up.

[Chuck Mangione]

But I think that that's why stand up. Like, real good standup and specials are killing it right now, because the audience. A lot of times you have comedians across the board, like, whether it's you or Andrew Schultz or Theo Vaughn or Shane Gillis and others that are like. Like they're writing their own stuff, and they're sticking to kind of, like, their shtick and who they are. And there's a beauty and an interesting, like, kind of storytelling with that as well. They're not surrounded by all those writers that are afraid of them in a writer's room. And Maybe when they are, that's when their comedy starts to go downhill.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. We have something that we saved from last week, which is the late, great Chuck Mangione. He played the flugelhorn, not the trumpet. And my dad played the flugel horn.

[Chuck Mangione]

I don't even know what the flugelhorn is.

[Mike Dawson]

Oh, you know, when you hear it.

[Adam Carolla]

It looks like a trumpet gave birth to twins and got stretched out a little bit.

[Chuck Mangione]

So it has six buttons instead of three. Right now it's got three.

[Adam Carolla]

It's just stretched out.

[Chuck Mangione]

Oh, interesting.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jay Leno]

Yeah.

[Mike Dawson]

So we lost Chuck Mangione last week, and, you know, it just reminded me of that wonderful time, the magical time in the studio when. When Chuck was, you know, doing a session and Jim Corolla pulled up my dad.

[Adam Carolla]

I recorded my dad playing, and he sat in here, he. Sam.

[Mike Dawson]

We'Re just playing off each other here.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, you can pause. You get the idea. Now, remember, I bought my dad basically an $1,800 trumpet, and he told me it wasn't enough trumpet for him. He needed a better trumpet, which is to do that. A little insight into my dad and sort of where he thinks he is versus where he actually is. But. But he returned my $1,800 trumpet and told me to get a $3,000 trumpet.

[Chuck Mangione]

Stop.

[Adam Carolla]

Maybe 3,200.

[Mike Dawson]

I mean, it blew clean notes.

[Adam Carolla]

I would argue that I could just hit up any Salvation army storage shed and steal a trump, and that would be too much trumpet for my dad's trumpet playing ability. But in his world, he needed a $3,000. His trumpet needed to cost more than my first seven cars and play the opposite of Reverie. Right.

[Chuck Mangione]

I actually. Yeah. Now after hearing that, I'm like, I know what that is, but did not know what that was before.

[Adam Carolla]

The floogle.

[Chuck Mangione]

The floogle.

[Adam Carolla]

It sounds like a little richer trump bit.

[Chuck Mangione]

It's, I would say more. Almost like high pitched.

[Mike Dawson]

More depth and depth.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, really, Maybe I'm thinking, well, yeah, that sounds like a. Like a smoother, deeper.

[Chuck Mangione]

Well, depending on who's playing it.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, no, that Chuck's playing. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. To be fair.

[Chuck Mangione]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Chuck Mangione's playing the flugel. My dad was playing the trumpet.

[Chuck Mangione]

Got it.

[Adam Carolla]

And that. That's why that sounds like that. But the flugel is, like, deeper and a little richer.

[Chuck Mangione]

Okay.

[Mike Dawson]

That was one of Chuck's fondest memories, was sitting in the studio with your dad. I really loved what he brought to the table that day.

[Chuck Mangione]

His whole heart.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that Was me just recording my dad in his den or something.

[Chuck Mangione]

Did he think he was that good?

[Adam Carolla]

I now look back on it, and I was trying to kind of break it down because my dad passed. I don't know. It's been nine, ten months now. Yeah. He'll be missed, but not by the community who leave their windows open at night. Yeah. So I started to try to do a psychodynamic dive on my dad and his trumpet. And it's like. Like, I think everyone is stretching for some or longing for some sense of being able to do something or having. You know, everyone, like, you know. You know, people go. You know, you go into a restaurant and you're with a couple, and the guys, you know, they're ordering, and it's a fancy French restaurant, and you're like, God, I can't understand what this guy. And then the woman across you, she goes, I speak French. And you kind of go, oh, that's cool. I wish I was the one who announced I spoke French. Or you go into a dinner party, and it's nice. And at some point, there's a big Steinway in the corner. And somebody goes, come on, Alicia, sit down. Come on, place a couple. And you go, I don't know.

[Chuck Mangione]

Actually, you know what my dream is? There's a medical emergency on a plane, and I can do something about it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Okay. So we all sort of have that longing. Yes, the longing for it. And it's like, I was a carpenter, so, like, sometimes I'll be at someone's house or something, go, this door's sticky, or whatever. And I'll go, yeah, okay, let me. I can do that.

[Chuck Mangione]

Show your stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And then they'll say it. They'll go, you know, the wife will go, I wish Bert could do that. You know, like, I don't know why it's okay to shame your husband. You can't shame your wife. But anyway, no one goes there and goes, this food is so good. I wish Connie knew how to cook.

[Chuck Mangione]

Only in front of the very closest, closest friends.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Well, if she's in the room, you're fucked. But the point is this. Everybody has a longing to do stuff and to have people go, oh, that's wonderful. Wow. I didn't know. Speak three languages, whatever. And it could be mastered the nunchucks or something, or black belt or something. And I realized that most people do have those things that they have an ability in. And then as I was talking to Dave Rubin about it earlier, you feel a certain sense of security. Like, okay, I Could handle myself. I used to box or I could fix stuff. It feels good. I work on a car a little bit. That kind of stuff. My dad didn't have anything. Oh, wow. And the trumpet was all the eggs in the one trumpet basket. You know what I mean? And I realized. I mean, it'd be like. Like I could ride a unicycle, but it'd be like me just showing up at every party with my unicycle or me weaving it into every conversation. And me, like, literally.

[Chuck Mangione]

I think it took me coming here like a dozen times before I. You know, you mentioned the unicycle.

[Adam Carolla]

It's.

[Chuck Mangione]

That's actually kind of impressive.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a novelty, but it's. It's pretty low down on the stuff that I get paid for that I'm good at.

[Chuck Mangione]

But you do mention carpentry a lot.

[Adam Carolla]

I do mention it. Cause I love it, and I think it's a road to sanity. But I'm also doing it all the time. And I realize I'm always remodeling something. I think carpentry is a metaphor for sort of sanity. I think people need to go out and get their hands dirty and skill.

[Chuck Mangione]

Like a tactile skill.

[Adam Carolla]

Tactile skill. We're all digital, and everyone's going insane. But as I realized, it was bizarre that my dad's world was a trumpet, except for he wasn't very good at playing a trumpet, and he never made a nickel playing a trumpet. And so yet. So he'd show up and be Thanksgiving, and here he'd show. He'd come walking in, oh, turkey smells good. And at some point, he put the trumpet case down, and it was like, oh, we're captive. We're captive audience. Like, we have to. I remember.

[Chuck Mangione]

Was everyone nice to him about it, or were you kind of.

[Adam Carolla]

Of? Yeah. Well, the problem was people. The people are always overly supportive about it. Like, oh, that's. Oh, that's one. No, don't do one more.

[Chuck Mangione]

But he clearly didn't have imposter syndrome. Because I feel like when people come when they see when. You know, my mom always texts me when I'm on TV that I did great. And I'm like, okay, yeah, you're my mom. You have to say that. Good sandwich. Mom has to say that. But, like, if a person I haven't seen in five years, text me is like, saw you on tv. You did great. Like, it means something else. But then there's still an imposter syndrome. Part of me that's like, are they Just saying that to be, like, nice or. Cause they want something from me.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he was so.

[Chuck Mangione]

He clearly had an element of, like.

[Adam Carolla]

Not that he was as good as Mangione. And I'm talking about the guy who assassinated the insurance broker. That guy. I don't even know if he can play the trumpet. I'm just gonna guess it was his identity.

[Chuck Mangione]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And so, like, one time he called me a million years ago, and it was funny because he'd never seen me do a show or he'd never been to anything I've ever done. And he just kind of called me and went, hey, you doing a show at the El Portel Theater? And I was like, yeah. Why? He's like, well, I thought I'd come check it out, you know? And I go, you've never asked me to come to a show. We taped the man show over the hill there. Bloodline. 700 episodes of everything. I just never showed up at once. He lived in North Hollywood. And so I go, what do you want to. You want to come watch the show? You want to watch me perform? And he goes, well, I thought I'd play the trumpet at the beginning. Play a little trumpet up there. I was like, oh, okay.

[Chuck Mangione]

He wanted to be your opener.

[Adam Carolla]

He wanted to open with his horn. I realized it became his whole. But I realized in a deficit of other skills. And I realized it was him kind of saying, I may not be successful and I may not be tall, and I may not have all these awards or trophies or plaques on the wall, but I can do this thing better than anybody at this party, provided nobody plays the trumpet at all. And that was his thing. And I realized, I think he was trying to carve an identity for himself. I guess it's better than just being a massive Dodgers fan or a Marvel fan. Or a Marvel fan. All right, everyone, a good note to go out on Alicia Krauss. Her op ed is at the Washington examiner, and the latest is on comedy. Comedy. Dave Rubin's got his Copal, I think.

[Chuck Mangione]

Oh, yeah, the Tequila Company.

[Adam Carolla]

Tequila. That's good. I'm gonna be in Portland at Helium August 7th. I guess we got a couple shows there. And then Redondo beach at formerly the End, it's now called Mom Said yes and El Paso. And you come out. Go to amcroll.com for all all life stuff. Until next time, Sam. For Dave and Alicia, saying, Mahala, pick up your phone.

[Mike Dawson]

Leave us a voicemail. 888-634-1744. Then get tickets to see Adam Corolla at AdamCorola.com.

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[Adam Carolla]

All right.

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[Adam Carolla]

Can I take your order, miss? I've been hitting up McDonald's for years.

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