David Arquette on How He Purchased the Rights to Bozo the Clown

Summary

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Adam Carolla Show

Episode: David Arquette on How He Purchased the Rights to Bozo the Clown
Date: November 13, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Adam Carolla welcomes David Arquette to the studio for a lively, wide-ranging conversation touching on Arquette’s acting and wrestling careers, growing up in a bohemian household, and, most notably, how he came to own the rights to Bozo the Clown. The show also dives into 1970s B-movies, the state of modern pop culture, and the darker corners of true crime with references to the Green River Killer—against the backdrop of Carolla's trademark comedic riffing and banter. Arquette shares memorable stories about his family, creativity, and the challenges (and joys) of embracing diverse interests and careers.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. News & True Crime Banter

• Opening Banter with Jason "Mayhem" Miller:
  The episode kicks off with bawdy riffing on the capture of the Golden State Killer (03:28–13:08), focusing on the strange detail that forensic evidence was partly due to his condition (“micropenis”). Adam and Mayhem joke about gender, societal expectations, and the weird subculture of media coverage surrounding serial killers.
• Media Naming of Serial Killers:
  Adam complains about how beautiful natural landmarks (e.g., the Green River) are ruined by association with notorious crimes (13:08–19:34).

  "Do not name your serial killers after nature's wonder and beauty. Or you gotta change the fucking name of the river." — Adam Carolla (14:12)

2. David Arquette Joins: Wrestling, Movies, and Bohemian Roots

Professional Wrestling & Cult Films

• Pro Wrestling:
  Arquette describes his continuing involvement in wrestling. Adam displays growing respect for the athleticism and risk involved.

  "Once you're in the wrestling world, you're kind of always in it, I gotta say." — David Arquette (32:25)

• Cult Film 'Bone Tomahawk':
  Discussion about films that inspire "evangelical" word of mouth—Bone Tomahawk is brought up as a modern example (35:41–36:18).
• B-movies and Russ Meyer:
  The conversation veers into memories of cult classics and the now-missing era when nudity in film was a major draw.

  "Russ doesn't get his due. No, he's innovative, a big titty guy, but funny." — Adam Carolla (42:05)

Family and Upbringing

• Bohemian/Liberal Upbringing:
  Stories from Arquette about a childhood filled with nudist colonies, creative parents, and exposure to avant-garde culture (44:24–47:04).

  "I was born on a commune. We're not religious. We're spiritual." — David Arquette (74:14)

• Discovering His Mom's Past:
  Arquette shares discovering vintage Playboy spreads featuring his mother, reflecting the free-spirited, unconventional family history.

The Bozo the Clown Saga

• How He Bought Bozo:
  Arquette explains how a 15-year determination led to him acquiring the rights to Bozo after years of negotiating with the original owner's family. He now embodies the character at public events, combining a lifelong passion with business acumen (61:28–63:45).

  "I'm Bozo the Clown now. I bought the rights." — David Arquette (56:47)

• Plans for Bozo:
  Discusses future projects for Bozo (movies, shows, merchandise), the licensing process, and the challenges of monetizing nostalgia (64:25–65:05).

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3. The Green River Killer Project

• Arquette’s Role:
  He’s starring as a detective in an upcoming 'Green River Killer' movie, focusing on the infamous serial murders in the Pacific Northwest.

  "There’s two detectives that stuck it through...for all those years." — David Arquette (65:47)

• Media and Serial Killer Mythology:
  The cycle of media sensationalizing names and the creepiness it adds to real places is lampooned once again (66:03 onward).

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4. Creativity, Sanity, and the Artist’s Life

• Bob Ross Certified Instructor:
  Arquette shares how he became certified in the Bob Ross painting method and uses it in charity events, sometimes combining it with his Bozo persona (93:20–95:07).

  “You go to New Smyrna Beach, Florida, and you take a three-week course to become certified.” — David Arquette (93:20)

• On Getting Saner with Age:
  Adam and David discuss how age brings perspective, with Arquette crediting his wife and sobriety for grounding him (87:01–88:45).
• Sleep and Mind Racing:
  Reflections on how creative minds struggle with sleep, comparing themselves to blue-collar types who can nap anywhere (89:11–90:52).

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5. Embracing Opportunities & Saying Yes

• Importance of New Experiences:
  Both host and guest champion the idea of embracing life by enthusiastically saying yes to new experiences—be it racing cars, acting, or painting.

  "People should say yes to more stuff, for sure. People sit around and go, 'Why did you do this?' and I go, I don't know. Someone asked me. I just did it." — Adam Carolla (98:04)

• Creativity and Joy:
  Arquette explains that after giving up drinking, he channels his energy into creative outlets, seeking to spread joy in unconventional ways (96:07–97:17).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Adam on the legend of Bozo and nostalgia:

  "Going from Green River Killer to Bozo, that's a lot. There's a lot of range as a performer." (65:05)

• On childhood exposure and hippies:

  "All it did was serve to kind of weird me out. Like, I wanted to say to them, 'Hey, I'm fucking nine. Just let me be nine!'" — Adam Carolla (45:29)

• On saying yes:

  "Every good experience or meaningful experience I've ever really had in my life is cause someone went, 'Hey you wanna do something?'..." — Adam Carolla (97:26)

• On creative lives and farming:

  "There's something about hauling hay... bedding and all this stuff you have to do. We just put the blankets on the horses after the first, you know, frost..." — David Arquette (92:52)

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Key Timestamps

• True Crime Banter & News: 03:28–19:34
• David Arquette Joins (Acting, Wrestling, B-movie history): 31:46–44:32
• Bohemian Upbringing & Nudism: 44:24–47:04
• How David Acquired Bozo: 61:28–63:45
• Green River Killer Movie Discussion: 65:31–67:18
• On Bob Ross Painting Certification: 93:20–95:07
• Life on the Farm & Creativity: 91:44–93:20
• On the Value of Saying Yes: 97:26–100:05

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Tone and Style

Adam Carolla’s signature uncensored, irreverent, and observational comedic style is on full display. David Arquette matches this with earnestness, warmth, and a sense of fun, comfortable being both self-deprecating and reflective. The episode offers a blend of candid stories, pop cultural critique, philosophical musings, and absurdist asides—making for a mix of laughter and genuine insight.

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In Summary

This episode of The Adam Carolla Show dives deeply into the blend of showbiz, eccentric family legacies, pop culture nostalgia, and the perpetual necessity of saying “yes” to new adventures. David Arquette’s journey to becoming Bozo the Clown, along with reflections on his family and creative choices, provide an entertaining and thoughtful listen for those interested in Hollywood’s less-traveled paths—and the value of remaining curious and engaged with the world.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

In this episode. David Arquette Interesting guys in studio for conversation. Mayhem's got the news and we'll do all that right after this.

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[Show Announcer]

From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, David Arquette. Plus the news with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now, even though they stopped making pennies, he'll still give you his thoughts.

[Adam Carolla]

Adam Carolla yeah, get it on. Got to get on a choice. We're gonna manage to get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for Telling friends. Love that about you. Looking forward to talking to David Arquette coming up in a couple of few. But until then, we got mayhem. Mayhem's got the news.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Got the news. Hey, a big one here. Just a pun for you. The Golden State Killer was brought to justice in part because of his distinctive micro penis. A new book about to capture details. Just how small the penis is, smaller than a pinky figure, really explains a lot.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I guess if you really break it down. First off, you wonder if these guys are motivated by this. Like it caused the anger and hate. Maybe there was. Maybe the first time he dropped his pants in front of a woman, she broke out in laughter.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Not just laughter like Ed told everyone.

[Adam Carolla]

Although I was talking to TJ Hooker's Heather Locklear, and they're okay with a micro penis. But it's weird. I think women have to pretend like they're okay, like. So here's what women do. You ready? Okay. Well, they do the opposite of whatever we want, right? So when we go, oh, man, that guy's got a huge hog. Women must love us. And the women go, I don't want that. I don't know. We don't like it. It's too big. And then you go, oh, man. But a micro penis, man, what do you do with that? And they go, I don't mind a micro penis.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I saw that clip. Heather Locklear was being very pragmatic.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it's the story. You know what it is? I think it's an extension of the story where every celebrity's like, we were very lower middle class. We didn't have. I think what they do is they go, we didn't have a lot of money. We grew up very middle class. I like a micro penis. I don't need a big hog. Like, this is all the stuff they say. But when you kind of look at them, they're driving a Rolls Royce, they're wearing a Rolex, and the boyfriend's got a huge hog. So I think women. I think. You know what I think? I think women are very like, okay, every time you'd read a centerfold in a Playboy back in the day, what do you look for in a man? Great sense of humor, caring eyes. And by the way, but she's dating Lorenzo Lamas Jr. You know what I mean? So it's like he's got the six pack abs. So is that what you care about or is that what you say you want us to think you care about?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

That's one thing. Heather Locklear is A politician.

[Adam Carolla]

All women are politicians and they're always stumping. Speaking of stumps, that's all he had in his pants.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Not even the poor photographer. That had to take. He said, d'. Angelo. It was directed to spread his legs and pull back the foreskin. And when the photographer finally got the money shot, it proved how small it was. Smaller than the circumference of a dime.

[Adam Carolla]

I wonder if that photographer. You can't just do micro penises. There's not enough business. He probably does kids, pets, and micro penises. Like, he'll do the thing. I'll be at the mall around the holidays. You want to dress your dog up like Santa and bring your toddler over there. I'm the guy for that.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Glamour shots for junk too.

[Adam Carolla]

And if you have a micro hog, I will definitely. I'm that guy too. Like, I got a lot of. I got a lot of range, I guess. I guess it's good because you sort of go, well, he suffered in silence. As much misery as he brought to the world.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

It's more instructive. It's more instructive that society needs to take it easy on those micro penises because they pushed him into this strange world of hating women so much that.

[Adam Carolla]

He would go around and do it. So you're making the Bad Ronald argument where he wasn't a bad kid.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

No, no. He was a bad guy. But what I'm saying is societal pressure.

[Adam Carolla]

They push Bad Ron, they pushed Bad Ronald and they called him bad. And then eventually he lashed out. You see what I'm saying?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yes. Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

So if only the Golden State killer got with Heather Locklear, then she would.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Have saved so many lives.

[Adam Carolla]

Listen, I don't buy it. Yeah, I think women. Let's try to figure this out. I don't think they want a micro penis. I don't think they want a massive penis.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Nah, they prefer a macro penis.

[Adam Carolla]

I think they want a little bigger than average. That's what I think. But they think average is smaller than it is. I think they want a little bigger than average.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, they don't quite want the hog leg. They just want.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean? Step a blow. Yeah, I was just hearing a story about somebody that got divorced from their NFL lineman husband cause it was too much.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

It's a damn shame. Should have used uber lube.

[Adam Carolla]

Too much. I'm gonna add that to my list. All right. I got a list. You want to hear my list?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

You know, I'm always ears open for a list.

[Adam Carolla]

I want to say that I have Been banned from a casino for counting cards and winning too much. I want that. I also want to say that I did a little bit of time in Nevada because I did kill a guy with my hands and my hands are registered as weapons. And that was the problem. There's that. And I'd like a woman to divorce me because I had too much in the manhood department. I'd like three for three. Three for three. Wow. All right, so he had a micropathy. What'd he do? Was he a serial killer or was he a rapist killer?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

He chewed the next level. I studied this guy actually. He would do some way far out stuff. Was taunting the DA's taunting the police. He just ran all over. Before DNA was a thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he used to be able to taunt. Yes, every third Clint Eastwood movie is about him being taunted.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, he did horrific things like place plates on the male and then do things with the wife. Why the man was there.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he went.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

He absconded from the police for years and years until they finally tracked him down through DNA website that one of his nephews was on.

[Adam Carolla]

Whenever they catch a serial killer, at some point they tell you what his job was. And then we always go, oh, of course. He was a truck driver. Aha. I knew it. Meanwhile, there's 10 million truck drivers. None of them are serial killers. A lot of time he was a cop.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

He was a former cop.

[Adam Carolla]

He's a former cop. Oh, I knew it.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

So he knew the methods of investigation. So, you know, he was kind of one step ahead of him the entire time. And he thought he got away scot free, I guess.

[Adam Carolla]

But it's gonna be weird cause now it used to be like we used to have. He was the son of a sharecropper or he was a whatever, farmhand or something. Now future generations of serial killers are gonna be like, he was a coder and he drove for Uber and doordash. And we're gonna be like, yeah. Doesn't sound very serial killy to me.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

He just left his phone in the car when he did the murders.

[Adam Carolla]

So that's good. I'm glad he had a micropenis.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Micropenis. And now look, I'll tell you what, that's a weird. He's serving his time in administrative segregation, like far away from everyone. He's in a small box for the.

[Adam Carolla]

Rest of his life. So he's still alive?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, he's still alive. Yeah. Serving a life sentence without parole.

[Adam Carolla]

A micro penis is not a bad thing to have in the joint because.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Listen, with those charges, they're going to get him. Somebody will get him.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he's going to be out of general pop, right?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, obviously, but even amongst like what they call special.

[Adam Carolla]

But don't you feel like in the joint a micropenis, as long as you're out of general pop is an advantage because all you want to do in the joint is rub one out in peace, right? And if you got a big Ron Jeremy type hog, that's going to be tough to holster when the guy's guard's coming around the corner. You know, you got this 11 inch dong swinging around like you're going to have a hard time turning your back, you know, getting a little privacy. You got the little piece of chapstick and you just, you know what I mean? Like you got plausible that you can do it inside your prison uniform. You drop your hand down your pants, shove some Kleenex down there, suddenly taking care of business. You got that big swinging hog. Cannot, you cannot. You can't hide it.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Catch a charge like that.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's like saying what's easier to smuggle, a AAA battery or a large gourd, you know what I mean? It's like, well, I think. I think I'd be having easier time in prison with that aaa. Like it's better whacking. It's better whacking.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

You always look on the bright side.

[Adam Carolla]

Lube's at a premium.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a premium for lube in the joint. You know, you're right.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So it's less lube.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Less maintenance, less cost of ownership.

[David Arquette]

Yep.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Less trips to the chow hall for vegetable oil.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. You've been there. You know it. All right, so anyway, we don't like this guy, but he's behind bars. But he's got the micropenis, which serves him for masturbatory stuff in the joint, bless his heart. All right. And he'll never get out. And he killed. How many people did he kill?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Oh, yeah, this is so many. At least 16 been attributed to him.

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, can I say this? 13.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

13.

[Adam Carolla]

We did some shows in the Portland area, I think Seattle, I can't remember. And I wanted to go out and walk with nature. Then I was in Willamette. Was that in Washington? Yeah, yeah, I was in Willamette. And I was walking and I walked outside the hotel and it was all green and beautiful and lush and Pacific Northwest. And I started walking and I saw this river and this trail and I started Walking down it, and I was like, oh, this is beautiful. I've never been more at peace. It was the Green River. There's a killer called the Green River Killer. Okay, first off, do not name your serial killers after nature's wonder and beauty. Or you gotta change the fucking name of the river. Yeah, because instead of tranquility, I'm thinking about a serial killer. Because I'm walking along the Green river and you guys name this guy the Green River Killer. You're gonna ruin it.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, no, they need to really change. Ted Bundy Gulch.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, let's see. What are we looking at? Starring in what? What? Today's guest, David Arquette, Nick Stahl, and others are starring in the Green River Killer. About the hunt for the Green River Killer. Gary Ridgeway. What? We got to get the name of that movie changed. I started walking. I was like, where are we? We're at Pacific Northwest. What's going on? Oh, the Green River. Oh, it's beautiful. Wait a minute. Is there a serial killer?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Did.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, there's probably bodies floating around here. I was annoyed. I'd immediately go back to the hotel and flog my micro penis. It ruined it. So listen, do not name your killers after stuff families like to enjoy. You know, if somebody kills somebody at Leo Carrillo beach, don't call them the Leo Carrillo Beach Killer, because people like to go there and camp with their kids and they're reminded of this. Or you now have to change the name of the river. Yeah, the good. The happy fun time river or something. The non serial killer. The live forever, Live forever river or something. But don't name them after beautiful stuff that I want to go enjoy. When there's hiking, there's hiking trails. And now I'm walking down the hiking trail. I'm looking over my shoulder. I'm looking for the Green River Killer.

[Show Announcer]

That's the last time we camp at the that don't get in the van River.

[Adam Carolla]

That don't get in the van River. That's right. How many bodies? And where is that green River? And aren't all rivers kind of green? I mean, that's not that creative. You could easily. Oh, you know what? Let's do this, folks. Of the Willamette. It's off the. There's the Willamette River. And where's. It's in Willamette's. In Oregon. Where's Green River? Is that Washington in Washington? I think it's Washington. Here's the whole point. We've already established a Green River Killer. Arquette's making a movie about it. So we can't get rid of that, okay? That's locked in. That's in the psyche of America. Okay? We're gonna have to change the name of the river, by the way. It's not like I knew that river. It's not like I walked up before I saw the sign and go, I know the shape of this river. This is a green river. I just walked up and went, it's a river. And then I saw a sign, it said, green River. All you gotta do is change the sign. You're not gonna get any complaints from me. I'll never know. The better. I was just walking along. Why don't we do this? There's a stretch of Mulholland that Bette Midler, the actor, has adopted. Okay? And you adopt highways. Because in California and Los Angeles, we can't keep our shit together. Like, we. Even though we pay $6 for a gallon of gas, we can't keep the roads clean or nice or graffiti free or trash free or anything. We have to go. Bette Midler, you want to adopt a stretch of highway because we can't do our fucking job? So what do they do? They adopt it.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Wait, are you proposing the Adam Carolla Green River Killer?

[Adam Carolla]

I am saying you're sponsoring them. Let's. The Green River's where Andrew. Okay, I'm asking. Here's what I'm saying.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

It's Washington. Nope.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it's in Washington. But I asked five years ago so we can figure this out. Here's my point. Are you ready?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I'm ready.

[Adam Carolla]

Let's let Costco or Starbucks, A and W root beer or Starbucks adopt the river. So to now be the Costco river. Or it'll be the Starbucks river. Or it could be the George Clooney river. Or maybe the Bill Gates river. Okay? Or maybe we'll get the divine miss oh, Bette Midler, the divine Mrs. M to. You know, we'll go to her and go, hey, Oprah, Mississippi, you adopted this stretch of Mulholland. How about you adopt the Green River?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then we'll put your name on it. But by the way, you gotta pay to keep it clean. That's the whole thing. Everyone adopt everything.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Got it.

[Adam Carolla]

The Green river is in the Pacific Northwest. Locate in Washington State. All right, so far is right. It flows from the Cascade Mountains near Mount Rainier, through King county and into Elliot Bay, passing cities like Auburn, Kent, Tuck, Villa, whatever. Tuck, Nutta. Green river in Oregon. Sorry, this is also a smaller green. There Is also smaller. Green river in Oregon. It flows through. Okay, so two rivers are now destroyed by this serial killer. You've destroyed the lives of the remaining family members and you've destroyed all the hikers lives who have to walk by and see a sign that says, welcome to the Green river, home of the serial killer.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, every time I'm in the majesty of nature, all I do is hyper fixate on serial killers.

[Adam Carolla]

You should. Especially if they're gonna hit you over the head with it and remind you of it this way.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

True crime podcast.

[Adam Carolla]

Did Arquette already shoot this movie or are they set to. And how many bodies did the Green River.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, yeah, that's the. What's the body count over there?

[Adam Carolla]

And let's just. You know, I was probably staying at a Ramada Inn or Red Roof Inn or something nearby, and I just walked by, let them pick up sponsorship and they don't have to do the entire river from the Cascades to the. To the. To the bay. They can just pick up a mile that's next to their Holiday Inn and then after that we'll go into the next one. Arco gas. You know, whatever.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

You know what Mahatma said, man, be the change that you want to see in the world. I say you do it, Corolla. I say you take over the entire Green River. In fact, if you'd like to, I'd like to do a military offensive.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the Green river movie is rap production, so it's already in the can.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Sweet.

[Adam Carolla]

But I can clean that up in post. Every time they say Green River Killer, we'll just put different words in our cat's mouth. I'm telling him he's got to do some adr. We'll loop it here. Well, we can do it in the studio right here. Perfect. Let's get some wild lines of him going. You mean the Costco River Killer? The Exxon Killer, The Del Taco Killer. Non river. We'll work it out. We'll give him three. Play with it. Have fun with it. All right. That is. I mean, it's weird that I brought up the Green River Killer and then there's a movie that our guest who's waiting to come in here, stars in.

[Show Announcer]

It's not weird anymore. Now it just happens all the time.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's a great magnet. Yes, indeed.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Magnets.

[Adam Carolla]

So what do you. What is that? Is it what it what? What? You know, we don't talk about the Green River Killer on this show very often. Our cats sitting 30ft from here. Just something he's Given off. It's.

[Show Announcer]

I'm just convinced that, yeah, you and him are connected on some vibe length that we are unaware of. Maybe you're both aliens.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, there is that time I made fun of him into a microphone and he walked into the studio. No, it's like. It'd be like. Let's just say there was somebody. All right, let's say there was a celebrity. All right? And let's just say you just started saying that Anthony Michael Hall's a douche. I don't trust that guy. He's nuts. And then 10 minutes later, Anthony Michael hall walked through that door. That's what happened to me.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

He plays Stifler.

[Adam Carolla]

Anthony Michael Hall. No, that's Sean Michael Scott.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Sorry. So picks up three names.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Now he's. Think more pretty Pink. And others. And many others. Yes, many others. All right, let's do one more because now we gotta get our cat in here and talk to him about this Green. How many. What was the Green River Killer. How many did he get?

[Show Announcer]

49. He convicted of 49 women. At the time believed to be the most prolific serial killer in the United States. From 1982 to 1988.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, would you let your daughter into that river knowing this? I'm sorry.

[Show Announcer]

From 1982 to 1998.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

They got him, right?

[Adam Carolla]

That's a run.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

He's still hanging out.

[Adam Carolla]

Did they catch him? I guess our cattle.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Our cat will tell you.

[Adam Carolla]

Our cattle tell us.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Show Announcer]

Well, he was arrested in 2001.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Oh, great.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. A pretty long haul there. Still alive. Still alive.

[David Arquette]

Jesus Christ.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's my thing. Can we look. I get that as far as the death penalty goes, where they go like. Well, what about that poor black teenage guy at night, the eyewitness with the cataracts. The old lady says he killed the guy in the liquor store. Has his whole life in front of him. All right, I get that guy. But once you get past 30 bodies, can we. At that point, can we just go. We'll just kill this guy. You know what I don't get about the death penalty is like, okay, the poor inner city kid who got caught up in gang violence and a stray bullet caught another. Oh, I know that kid. You know that kid. Okay. Okay. I'm talking about a guy took 50 souls. That guy would that harvesting could that guy. We. Could we take that guy out?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah. It's a strange argument to make.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, let's do one more.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

All right. Well, mom is suing Qatar Airways for 55 million whole dollars. After her daughter, three, goes into Sphere anaphylaxis from a Kit Kat bar.

[Adam Carolla]

Three old time.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah. This mother Sweeta, near Kunda, she's 33. She was on the Qatar Airways flight and her daughter, you know, she went to the restroom and left her daughter with the flight attendant. She told the flight attendant that she has a severe allergy to dairy. The flight attendant gave her some Kit Kat bars and was like giggling about it and downplaying. Oh, it's no big deal. Well, the girl went into anaphylactic shock. Scott froze up and. Yeah, they.

[Adam Carolla]

Because of milk, trying to do a cover. Milk chocolate?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yes, milk chocolate. It's the most. Yeah, it's a very bizarre. Yeah, a lawsuit for 5 million though, because they had, you know, she had to go to the doctor two days later because there was another reaction and still with this being allergic.

[Adam Carolla]

How long you going to the bathroom that you gotta drop off your kid with the. And by the way, the flight attendant, like, I'm up, I'm in. I'm waiting on my drink, babe. You're doing what? Doing a little house, you're doing a little daycare over here. I don't know. I always blame the moms.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Strap the kid in the seat, go to the bathroom, shake the dew off the lily, then come back.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

The sketchy thing about this story is that she had mentioned the, you know, according to her, she had informed the cabin crew of her daughter's severe allergy to dairy and nuts before going, you know, and during the flight. So before the flight, she told them, she like set this whole thing up and then the Kit Kat explosion.

[Adam Carolla]

What is. I mean, the Kit Kat's milk chocolate. I mean, that's all that's in it.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, I don't. And maybe it's made in a facility that processes nuts. They always warn you because they also make other products. So whatever, you know, I guess she's allergic to dairy.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. But the kid's alive.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

The kid's alive.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, well then screw you. Five years. No money.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

No money, no zero dollars.

[Adam Carolla]

Listen, here's the thing. When you have this situation that's kind of on you, sadly, but it's on you. You got dealt a weird hand. Your kid's allergic to whatever. You're the guardian. It's kind of on you, society. There's Halloween, there's bowls of candy in front of every counter and a diner and stuff like that.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

In Japan, there's stairs everywhere. No ramps. Stairs, stairs.

[Adam Carolla]

You cannot walk.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Sorry. Too bad. Yeah. We build a City right here with stairs. So it's like, very different than America where we are.

[Adam Carolla]

We accommodate everyone, and then everyone is fat, entitled, and then everyone sues everyone. All right, David Arquette is in there. He's got a Green River Killer movie coming out. We got to talk to him about that. He's also got another movie coming out, the Perfect Gamble. Also, he's in Bone Tomahawk, which is the guys I watch football with. All they do is tell me, you gotta watch Bone Tomahawk for six years. Watch Bone Tomahawk. It gets people fired up.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

They feel like they're ambassadors for Bone Tomahawk. All right, we'll take a quick break. We'll bring our cat in right after this. Ridge. Oh, man. I used to lug around crusty old leather wallet. Yeah, they get a little crusty. A real brick right in the back pocket there. Throw your back out sitting on that thing. Then I switched to the Ridge wallet. Where is it? Here it is. The Ridge wallet. And now the Ridge 2.0. It's even better. This thing is 10% lighter, still holds all of my cards up to 12. Plus the cash without any the bulk. The new modular design means you can swap between cash straps, money clips, even add airtag attachments so you never lose your wallet again. And let's talk materials. They're using aluminum, titanium, even carbon fiber. I mean, stuff F1 cars are made out of. Feels premium, looks sleek, matches anything. Even if you're rooting in the NFL or MLB or college team, they got it because Ridge has a wallet for all of them. Trust me, this is the gift that stays out of the junk drawer and actually changes your everyday routine. It's Ridge, right? Dawson.

[Show Announcer]

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[Show Announcer]

It's time to check Adam's voicemail.

[Adam Carolla]

Aceman just blew a joint. So forgive me, but I consider myself.

[David Arquette]

A bit of a man's man.

[Adam Carolla]

I love cars, girls, America. But I also cross my legs and.

[David Arquette]

You make me real self conscious about it.

[Adam Carolla]

Get it on.

[Show Announcer]

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[Adam Carolla]

David Arquette in studio. Renaissance man. I don't say that that often, but not many people are professional wrestlers and certified in the Bob Ross style of painting, which I gotta get into. The new movie the perfect Gamble is going to be available November 14th. That's tomorrow's you hear this. Also in theaters, also streaming on Apple TV, Prime Video, Vudu, Google Play, YouTube Movies, and Moore. David, good to see you, my friend.

[David Arquette]

Great to see you, Adam.

[Adam Carolla]

You retired from pro wrestling?

[David Arquette]

Sorta. I mean, once you're in the wrestling world, you're kind of always in it, I gotta say.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know who else has watched him, but super impressive. I know. I bring it up every time. Very athletic. You know, there's a certain point in an arc of pro wrestling when I didn't appreciate it and I wasn't into it, and now I don't appreciate it. I'm not into it. But I go, that's athletic. That's really hard to do. And so now I appreciate it from, like, a difficulty standpoint.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. You just have to find the right wrestlers that you, like, connect with.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's so athletic now.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, it is. It's incredible what they're doing.

[Adam Carolla]

And it seems a little more dangerous than it probably was.

[David Arquette]

I think it's a little more dangerous. I think they're taking more risks right now.

[Adam Carolla]

Sort of. It's sort of X gamey. Right. Like, guys used to just do a wheelie on a Schwinn and they'd go, all right, give him the gold. And now you gotta do a triple backflip off a ramp. And it's like, that's great, but you could break your neck.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, you definitely can. I mean, I've known tons of wrestlers that happen to.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a weird, weird.

[David Arquette]

And then they go back and wrestle.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. Oh, no. They all. They all go back and there's no expiration date anymore. No one needs to retire.

[David Arquette]

Wow. Yeah. Well, that's good when you get old. Like, I wrestled Honky Tonk man once.

[Adam Carolla]

The Honky Tonk Man?

[David Arquette]

Yes. That was amazing. And the old timers, they get this sort of routine down where they can do their moves or whatever moves they can do. It's not too taxing on the body.

[Adam Carolla]

The Honky Tonk man was sort of husky. Elvis with the guitar, with the jumpsuit.

[David Arquette]

He's great. He's still out there. He's still around. He's not wrestling anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

Hit the scene in the mid-80s or something.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So by the time you get.

[David Arquette]

Well, he was probably in the scene in the 70s for sure, but probably found his gimmick and everything in the 80s.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, it is true. Because these guys float around for six years before they get the good. Years and years, years and years.

[David Arquette]

It takes a long time to break through.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So it depends, you think? But I mean, it's not so different than standup comedy or acting or something where you go, this guy hit the scene, it's like, oh, no. He's bouncing around doing bars and stuff like that for years before you even know who he is.

[David Arquette]

Sort of like, yeah. Before you find your voice or your character, what works for you?

[Adam Carolla]

So the perfect gamble, which is. Is that Tarantino's wife that's in that Film with you.

[David Arquette]

Daniela picked Tarantino. It's her first lead role in a film. She's great in it. She's really talented. Danny. A. Danny Abacus is the director. He's also in it. So it's about two friends that, you know, get, like, they're bookkeepers in. In New York, and they get busted. They do their time. When they get out, they decide to start a illegal underground casino in Georgia. The country Georgia. And then the Russian mob finds out.

[Adam Carolla]

Huh? You know, action ensues.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Good. I don't know, caper action.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, totally. Romance. There's some romance.

[Adam Carolla]

So I was saying before you came on, I have this crew that I watch football with on Sundays, and it's nonstop Bone Tomahawk talk.

[David Arquette]

That's pretty intense.

[Adam Carolla]

But there's an interesting thing with some movies. Some movies are just good movies, and then people watch them and then they go, I'll keep that to myself. And then other movies where people feel like they're deputized, like they gotta walk around and go, have you seen Bone Tomahawk? No, you better. They get you to headlock and drag you to see Boned Tomahawk. And it's good that that movie brings that out in people, that kind of enthusiasm or something.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. Scarred them to a point of wanting to tell other people to get scarred.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, way back in the day, I could. I will tell you, like, way back in the day, Spinal Tap was that way. Like, you're hanging around with comedy people at the ground links or whatever, they go, you shouldn't Spinal Tap. And I go, no. And they go, you gotta see. You. We're seeing it now. Like, they got energized.

[David Arquette]

Yes. Or Kentucky Fried Movie.

[Adam Carolla]

Kentucky Fried Movie.

[David Arquette]

When you were young, much younger.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, that's back when titties counted for something. Like, it was like the movie had titties in it, and that was enough.

[David Arquette]

It was the Bone Tomahawk scene of titties.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. I still. I mean, I can do half the dialogue from Kentucky Fried Movie. She was six feet of Black Dynamite. He was a short Hasidic Jew. Together they burnt the ghetto to the ground.

[David Arquette]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

He kindled the Sabbath candles. She burnt the ghetto to the ground. Yeah.

[David Arquette]

I love that. You remember?

[Adam Carolla]

I remember. That's all I had. I didn't even have it. My friend. My friend had a dad, had a vcr, and we could watch it. But also, there was a simpler time when titties was enough for box office. Oh, yeah, that was enough. Porky's is a weird, dark, semi anti semitic, bizarre film that just has titties. And that was enough. And. And as I was thinking about it, and they were smart because they just go like, well, look, the script sucks, the acting sucks, the direction sucks, everything sucks. But there's titties. And that's enough for good box office.

[David Arquette]

I think they might be missing something. Missing out of this, like, culture that's taken away certain things.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the culture, like, I could remember when I was a kid, there was a place up north and my grandmother who worked for the VA in Westwood, once a year they'd have their whatever, meeting up north in San Simeon or something like that. Like, ah, these poor people work these shitty jobs. I got to go to, like, their convention and hang out. They do it somewhere nice. And so my grandparents who took pity on me and my sister for the parents we got would say, you can come with us and we'll just stay at a motel and it'll be like a little vacation, you know, your grandmother's going to some event. And the motel we stayed at had a big thing on the sign. It said free jelly beans. And that was a big deal. Yeah, like, oh, man, we're definitely staying here. They got jelly beans and they're free. And it was like, it was a thing. Like, it meant something like titties, jelly beans. That stuff was hard to find. And now it's just like, there's shit everywhere all the time and no one gives a shit.

[David Arquette]

Like, now they'll throw penises and butts all over the place. Can we have some titties back?

[Adam Carolla]

I'm just saying there's penises and butts everywhere. What happened to the titties?

[David Arquette]

I mean, it's fine for the, you know, now that, like, can we all just be naked?

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. And also, how about big titties? Because they just show small titties. Because that's our artistic. But big titties is not artistic. And somehow I would argue there's plenty of big titties that could be considered artistic. Absolutely. We got to make our own movie.

[David Arquette]

My wife, my mom, your mom? My mom had large breasts and she did a film called Olga's House of Shame, which was like an old exploitation.

[Adam Carolla]

It really sounds like a place at the mall for plus size women to shop. You know what I mean? You heavyset, you eat too much. Come to Olga's House of Shame. Get our matronly gowns, size xl, xl, xl. Wait a minute. Listen, I hate to do it, but is there a Trailer for this.

[David Arquette]

There's definitely a poster somewhere.

[Adam Carolla]

Olga's House of Shame. Yeah, it was that kind of B movie esque.

[David Arquette]

Absolutely. It was like Waters. What's.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, like a John Waters.

[David Arquette]

Like one of his favorite films.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that's perfect. Oh, like an Ed. Oh, God, who am I thinking of? Who's the director? Wow. Oh, Ed Wood. Ed Wood.

[David Arquette]

So yeah, that's my mom down there.

[Adam Carolla]

On the bottom left.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

With the C. C cup. Yeah, it's. It's interesting because. Let's see if we can relive some of our past titties. Nudity, it was at a premium back then. And so what you'd have to do is you'd have to see movies that were horrible, but they had some titties in them. And so they'd have. So what would happen is they'd have these weird art house movie theaters and then you'd find out that Russ Meyers Valley Beneath the Super Vixens is playing Saturday night at this art house place in Hollywood. Hollywood. And then you and your buddies would have to go. We gotta go to see Vampire Succubus.

[David Arquette]

Russ Meyer was amazing. His stuff, Faster Pussycat, Kill Kill is incredible.

[Adam Carolla]

Russ doesn't get his due. No, he's innovative, a big titty guy, but funny.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Like quirky.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

Like sort of took the B movie and went, well, what if we. What if we up the cup size and up the humor?

[David Arquette]

Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

And the other ones were being kind of serious. He was being kind of funny, but also kind of dark and off a little bit.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, I think there's a whole market and room for some of that stuff still. But who's gonna do it and who's gonna put it out?

[Adam Carolla]

Now?

[David Arquette]

You could just put it out.

[Adam Carolla]

Who's the next Russ Myers? I mean, it's an interesting story.

[David Arquette]

It's probably out there already. The whole. The world so big and crazy.

[Adam Carolla]

Russ Myers is weird in that his whole thing was like, I don't just want titties, I want big titties.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's his basic claim to fame. Big titties.

[David Arquette]

Well, he knew what he liked and what he wanted to make films about.

[Adam Carolla]

As a matter of fact, Kentucky Fried Movie, which starred Ergie Da Garde as the topless chick in the shower scene.

[David Arquette]

She was one of.

[Adam Carolla]

Russ was also Russ gals.

[David Arquette]

I don't, I don't. I don't doubt that.

[Adam Carolla]

You would be a fool to doubt.

[David Arquette]

That you might have even cast from it. Who knows? Or who. Which. The chicken or the egg?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[David Arquette]

What came first?

[Adam Carolla]

So there were all these weird B movie esque things and most of them weren't good, but because there was the promise of titties, you would go sit in these movie houses.

[David Arquette]

I would still.

[Adam Carolla]

He would still do it. Now, did you actually have to watch the movie with your mom in it?

[David Arquette]

Oh, no.

[Adam Carolla]

Good.

[David Arquette]

Although there's been a world of uncomfortable stuff like that for me. Oh, because of your sisters and my, you know, pictures of my mom. She was a pinup model and we discovered all these photos of her after she passed. After she passed? Yeah. But even when we were growing up, I don't know, there was home movies and then some. Well, do you feel pop up.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, let's explore this. I had a hippie mom.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. So, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. Except for she was. She was modest in the bra department and didn't do any acting. But I had the hippie. Hippie mom. And there was a time when it was part of the whatever movement where it's like you had to expose your kids to everything and they had to see everything and there's no secrets. And I remember, like, as a kid, you'd go, oh, we're gonna go to this guy's house and we're gonna go swimming. And then you go, okay. And then you'd be driving to the house and go, by the way, they're nudist.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And you'd go, what? They're nude. They're nudist. You go, I'm nine. Yeah. Yeah. They walk around naked.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's like, okay, but it's a little weird. Like, it's all. It's all a little weird. And then they had this thing where it's like they had to expose you to all this stuff. And it's like, you're not too young to be exposed to all this stuff. But all it did was serve to kind of weird me out.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, I wanted to say to him, hey, I'm fucking nine. Just like, let me be nine. I don't want to know about all this stuff. I don't want to see it. I don't want to hear about it. Like, it was, it was, it was a cultural thing where we needed to expose kids to everything and know the truth about nudity in Vietnam. And it's like, I just like to be seven.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

How about I believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus?

[David Arquette]

Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

So you had, like, bohemian parents.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. There was this famous photo of speaking in nudist colonies of my parents and Rosanna and my brother Richmond, all from behind, like, showing their butts, walking. I'd always remembered it as a kid, like, like their butts. And then I was doing a movie called Stealing Sinatra that was based on the kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Jr.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[David Arquette]

Set in 1964 and shooting in Vancouver. And I go into the set of my character. I'm playing the kidnapper. And they've set this room up totally 60s cool furniture and all this stuff and then some vintage Playboys. So as I'm sitting waiting to shoot my next scene, I start flipping through this vintage Playboy and lo and behold, there's this like, you know, article written by Shel Silverstein.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Shel Silverstein.

[David Arquette]

And it's about his love of being a nudist. And as I'm flipping through, I see pictures of my mom playing volleyball and doing all these nudist colony things.

[Adam Carolla]

Where at?

[David Arquette]

It was at this nudist colony in upstate New York where they shot this thing and where that picture was actually from.

[Adam Carolla]

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[David Arquette]

Yeah, he was a poet. I mean the Giving Tree. He wrote A Boy named Sue.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, he did. He wrote that song.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Did he have a really crazy voice?

[David Arquette]

Yeah, he had a really crazy voice.

[Adam Carolla]

He where the Sidewalk Ends.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. Very strange looking picture on the back of his books. That was kind of frightening.

[Adam Carolla]

Was all of this just an attempt to see people naked?

[David Arquette]

Probably because they're like he was in the 60s, like full on culture.

[Adam Carolla]

Did he, did, did Shel Silverstein have Dr. Demento songs?

[David Arquette]

Yeah, I'm sure he did.

[Adam Carolla]

And did he have the one about. There was a story, I think it was a Shel Silverstein one where he talked about a guy who's the fastest joint roller in the world and then the other guy was the fastest joint smoker in the world and they had a standoff. But I have no idea whether it's just my weird childhood. So your dad was an actor, right?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And the whole family was just sort of bohemian actor.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, great. My grandfather was Charlie Weaver, an old, like comedian.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, right, right, right.

[David Arquette]

And then my great grandparents were in vaudeville.

[Adam Carolla]

Charlie Weaver was back when he was original Tonight Show. Yeah. And the Jack park comedians could have a sort of angle, like an outfit, a thing. Like Charlie Weaver would be up there in Hollywood Squares and he had his hat on. He had his mustache and his hair and it was like Minnie Pearl had her tag hanging off her thing. And people had their calling card stuff. I mean, it was kind of like Larry the Cable Guy. Except for if everyone was labeled Larry the Cable Guy.

[David Arquette]

Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. He wrote letters home to mama. His whole thing was he is this old man that could get away with saying slightly risque stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[David Arquette]

Because he was kind of old and would say crazy stuff. But, you know, he'd make jokes, you know, sort of sexual India innuendo and drinking and silly jokes that you couldn't really get away with on national tv.

[Adam Carolla]

The Smoke off is by Shel Silverstein.

[David Arquette]

There you had it, dude.

[Adam Carolla]

Epic poem.

[David Arquette]

But that's why they exposed you to so much. So you'd have a memory Remember all of these random things.

[Adam Carolla]

But it's a song that ended up on Dr. Demento or somebody read it for him so we can find that the other. I don't know if you ever saw the movie trailer to the man with Two Heads. Sounds really familiar with, like, Rosie Greer was in it. It's the craziest trailer. They used to make weird B movies, but they would find their way to the mainstream. It wasn't like now you'd make something weird and small and someone just see it on YouTube or something. They beat. They would get out there. The trailer for the Man With Two Heads, Dawson, it makes me laugh every time because it's insane. And you don't really even need to see it. You can hear it. It's Rosie Greer, who was the LA Ram, who was also Robert Kennedy's bodyguard when he was shot at the hotel. Like, he was, like, standing there. Well, because they'd go, I need a huge guy who's cool. And Rosie Greer was. Was. Was considered cool. He was into, like, needle points. He was like a gentle giant, I guess.

[David Arquette]

Not a great bodyguard.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what they call it. Not a fantastic bodyguard. All right, here we go. Let's say.

[David Arquette]

Oh, my goodness.

[Adam Carolla]

Seemed like a good idea at the time. The white bigot was dying, and the black soul brother needed time to move.

[David Arquette]

I know exactly. I've seen this. Oh, no.

[Adam Carolla]

I want to transplant my head. Not a healthy body. I think I like to donate my body to science after all. So they transplanted the whitehead onto the black body.

[David Arquette]

Oh, God.

[Adam Carolla]

Who would have suspected that neither would care for the idea too much. What are you guys doing to me? Shut up. Where's the rest of you? We are joined together temporarily.

[David Arquette]

It's an entire movie with.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Stop this.

[Adam Carolla]

A white guy and a black guy.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Don't you shut up?

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, that's telling him your kind stick together.

[David Arquette]

He's sitting behind him. He has. They're so close. Their cheeks are touching.

[Adam Carolla]

You, doctor. So far, so good.

[David Arquette]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Carolla]

Then how about you taking old happy.

[David Arquette]

Face off of here?

[Adam Carolla]

Are you shooting at us? Back when cops used to shoot at cars. You know, like, car ran away. Start shooting, man. This car's a real duck. Could I have a cigarette? Oh, here's the joke. He's gonna smoke and the other guy's gonna smoke. Hey, man, we smoking while I'm eating? Also, they had to have the dirt bike scene. They had to have the helicopter scene.

[David Arquette]

Did you show this to me last time?

[Adam Carolla]

I swear to God, I probably did. All right.

[David Arquette]

Every time we go.

[Adam Carolla]

It's crazy.

[David Arquette]

It is bananas.

[Adam Carolla]

But entertaining.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, they got to make. And just think if they would have thrown some big titties in that movie.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God. If they just took a titty and put it next to Rosie Groove's ear. I will tell you this. You must share weird stuff with the next generation. I was talking to my son a few days ago and he was talking about some film thing he had to review or something. Something, something. And then he brought up Phantom of the paradise, which I forced him to watch with me when I was doing a car race up north. I was like, we're watching a weird movie tonight. And we sat there in that Airbnb and we watched the Brian De Palma's Phantom of the Paris. And he's like, I liked it. And then he went, I'm the only 19 year old I know that's ever seen that movie. And I'm like, you will be the only 19 year old. But it's good. It broadens it out. Right.

[David Arquette]

I hear they're making a stage production of it. I talked to Paul Williams.

[Adam Carolla]

You talked to Paul Williams?

[David Arquette]

I performed with Paul Williams at Coachella last year as Bozo the Clown.

[Adam Carolla]

What?

[David Arquette]

Yes. It was absolutely incredible. Paul Williams and weird album. And Portugal the Man. It was just Thundercat. It was amazing group.

[Adam Carolla]

That was at Coachella.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. With Yo Gabba Gabba. That's whose performance we were all backing.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on, I feel high. Okay, so let me.

[David Arquette]

Yo Gabba Gabba had a big performance at Coachella.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you did it as Bozo because you're a bozo aficionado.

[David Arquette]

I'm. I'm Bozo the Clown now. I bought the rights.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you are Bozo the Clown.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. It took me 15 years to acquire the rights and now I was just Bozo last night. I probably still have glitter.

[Adam Carolla]

I wonder if I can do that with Russ Myers. You probably just become Russ Myers.

[David Arquette]

You absolutely could. Now you don't even need to. You could just. Well, you could buy the rights to his movies to recreate them, or you could just make your own. You don't need your Adam Carolla. You don't need to be Russ Meyer.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know.

[David Arquette]

If you don't have any, like, hang ups about certain things, then go for it. Like why? I mean, why is it somebody done, like, really quality pornography? You know what I mean?

[Adam Carolla]

I will tell you. They used to. Or they tried. Because I will.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I will.

[Adam Carolla]

I will come up with it for one second. Okay. They did Caligula.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Caligula had, like, Roddy McDowell or something in it. Like a. Like a major movie star.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Big sets, all porn.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And with lots of weird stuff in between.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, they would do these movies.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. I think it was after, like, you know, Deep Throat or some. Something came out. The cheerleader one, whatever.

[Adam Carolla]

Debbie Does, Dallas.

[David Arquette]

Those, like, broke through. Those became huge hits. And Caligula. Caligula ran on Hollywood boulevard for, like, 40 years.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. The Deep Throat would, like, be in Manhattan at the movie theater. There'd be a line going around the block.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so let me just get this down. Paul Williams.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, Paul Williams is the guy who was little Enos on smoking the Bandit. And he's also the guy who looked for a long time like Jodie Foster looked when she was 9. Because he had the same thing with the bangs and the glasses and they just looked like Jodie Foster. He'd written many a song, like Barbra Streisand stuff. Evergreen. Wrote tons of songs and starred in Brian De Palma's Phantom of the Paradise.

[David Arquette]

And wrote all the music.

[Adam Carolla]

And wrote all the music. And he's a prolific, amazing songwriter.

[David Arquette]

He also wrote Bugsy Malone, which was incredible. The whole music in that movie.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. With Scott Baio and. Is that Jodie Foster? It was a crazy movie.

[David Arquette]

Lord. Diane Lane.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, they're all in it. It's a crazy movie about kids playing gangsters in the mob. And it's all kid stuff, but it's gangster stuff. But it's a musical. And it was, like, a real interesting movie. It's not 32% on Rotten Tomatoes, like, 80%. It was a well received, interesting movie. So Paul Williams is up on stage at Coachella. You're up there as Bozo.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You are Bozo now.

[David Arquette]

Yes. The funny thing is, we're in the trailer and I'm becoming Bozo. And he comes in and he sits there and we have a long chat. And I told him how much I love Phantom of the paradise and all of his, you know, work. And he was just such a generous, kind soul. He's like the nicest person. Like, works with ASCAP for years and all that.

[Adam Carolla]

So he said they're going to do the Broadway version.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. He was talking about in there. They're just about finished. It's taking them years to put together.

[Adam Carolla]

I think I looked it up, but I think. Did that come before Rocky Horror or after? Cause now we gotta look.

[David Arquette]

I'm not sure. I think maybe after.

[Adam Carolla]

If Rocky Horror can be that big, then Phantom of the paradise can be that big.

[David Arquette]

Well, if Rocky Horror was like super underground, that it didn't only caught on like in after it had come out. And then they started doing the midnight screenings and that's what made it so.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[David Arquette]

Incredible.

[Adam Carolla]

So you're on stage with Paul Williams, you're Bozo. Who else was on stage?

[David Arquette]

Oh man, we had the Teletubbies, we had Care Bears, we had all of these iconic children's. Because they were singing the rainbow. Why are there so many songs about rainbows? Yeah, Rainbow Connection.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Rainbow Connection.

[David Arquette]

That's his song. That's why.

[Adam Carolla]

Now how does, how does one acquire the rights to Bozo?

[David Arquette]

I had a production company years ago and I loved Bozo when I was a kid. When I was a kid I was like, I want to be him when I grow up. And I was three. So me and my friend would act like I'd be Bozo, he'd be Cookie. I lived in Chicago at the time, by the way.

[Adam Carolla]

Phantom of the Paradise 74, Rocky Horse 75. They basically ripped him off.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, no kidding. I apologize.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so go ahead.

[David Arquette]

So then. Yeah, so like 17 years ago now probably I met with Larry Harmon, the guy who bought the like it used to be a read along record at Capitol Records where teach kids how to read. And there was this cartoon version. So he bought it and made it a live action version in like 1957 I think and then created the whole look and branded him Bozo the world's most famous clown and then cloned him throughout the country to 200 plus more markets. And they. So each little area had their Bozo. So everyone like fell in love with Bozo. And Chicago being the biggest sort of market because they had the superstation there, WGN and then became the superstation. And then cable happened so it went all over the place. So I met with him then we just, I, you know, had all these meetings with him, connected him with author to help him write his memoir. And then he passed away and then his wife passed away and I finally had made it deal with the daughter for Boza.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, the rights.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So you pay them money and they go, you can wear the outfit, you can use the name, you could make a movie, you could make a cartoon series.

[David Arquette]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And you own this thing.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And we've, we've sold it to you. Like you could sell someone a condominium.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You just have it. And there's no they. Well, on the case that you do a TV series about Bozo, like a three part thing on Netflix. You have to get their approval or any of that. It's just. You own Bozo?

[David Arquette]

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot that goes into that. There's a lot of lawyers, and there's a lot of stuff. And the. Larry Harmon's family still owns 5%, so he still partners with them.

[Adam Carolla]

And is something like that good? Is that six figures plus?

[David Arquette]

Not yet. I mean, it's still in the building phase.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, but to acquire. To buy the rights to Bozo, it's not eight grand. It's big. It's six figures plus. And then you.

[David Arquette]

And then also to deal with all the archives and all the stuff. There's a lot that costs.

[Adam Carolla]

And now then. Is there gonna be a movie?

[David Arquette]

Yeah, we have a script.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you do?

[David Arquette]

Yeah. We're just, you know, it's crazy business. You have to raise money and you have to do all this stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I know.

[David Arquette]

Never ends.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I mean, it's a. It's an interesting thing because even though you're the celebrity and you're the artist, you're constantly just rattling a can going, can you give us some money?

[David Arquette]

It's crazy.

[Adam Carolla]

In which case you're not really the celebrity. You're sort of kissing their ass. Gone. Could we get some. Some money to make this thing? But, you know, you show a lot of range, because going from Green River Killer to Bozo, that's a lot. There's a lot of range as a performer.

[David Arquette]

There's a lot of inspiration there, for sure. Cause there is, like, a scary clown thing, and we don't want to make that connection.

[Adam Carolla]

Are you. When you would play Bozo?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And the Green River Killer. Isn't it weird that I brought that up?

[David Arquette]

Yeah, that was strange.

[Adam Carolla]

When did you wrap that?

[David Arquette]

Two months ago. A month ago or something.

[Adam Carolla]

And was that a crazy story? Yeah, 49 people.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. They had to wait. They had. They sort of had figured out it was him, but they had to wait for DNA to catch up. The whole science behind it, to finally.

[Adam Carolla]

Be able to, like, nail it down and. Are you a detective? Yeah.

[David Arquette]

One of the detectives. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You're one of the detectives.

[David Arquette]

There's two detectives that stuck it through.

[Adam Carolla]

The whole case for all those years. I mean, 16, 18 years, right?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you agree with me that they need to change the name of the river from the Green river so it doesn't haunt everyone who walks along it?

[David Arquette]

Yeah, I know, but there could be a problem if it were the Costco river and then there was a killer. The Costco River.

[Adam Carolla]

There could Be a Costco killer.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, they don't want that.

[Adam Carolla]

What if we just called it like, you know, it comes from the Cascade.

[David Arquette]

Nirvana. Nirvana.

[Adam Carolla]

Nirvana, that's got a band. I mean, it comes from the Cascades, which is called the Cascade River.

[David Arquette]

That's kind of a beautiful name for.

[Adam Carolla]

A river, but it's also the name of a product for dishwashers.

[David Arquette]

You know, what happens is it's pretty much like the media or something. Or the community, I guess.

[Adam Carolla]

Pretty much. Right.

[David Arquette]

Media.

[Adam Carolla]

That. Yeah, right.

[David Arquette]

Or some, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Like the cops don't do it. No, the media does it.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Because they found their third body in the Green River.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. And then kind of finds itself.

[David Arquette]

Itself. Those names like Golden State and all the kind of different things. Happy Face and all the baloney.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. There's the Hillside Strangler. The Night Stalker. Yeah.

[David Arquette]

Those are like, actually made to like.

[Adam Carolla]

And still a little fear.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Night Stalker is a good one. That's a strong one. Yeah. And poor Ted Bundy just got Ted Bundy.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Once in a while he just gets your name.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean? I mean, I don't feel bad for the guy, but I do feel bad that he never got a good handle.

[David Arquette]

He contacted the Green river detectives and wanted to help him out.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really? Solve it?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Ted Bunny from prison.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. They met with him and he gave him some. Like, the killer thinks this way.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's interesting because Bundy did get put to death and.

[David Arquette]

This guy made a deal so he would show him where all the bodies were so that he wouldn't get killed.

[Adam Carolla]

The Green River Killer. I don't know if I like the. Cut the deal because I can. It's a weird thing. So they go, you finally get caught, right? And then they go, we got you down for 26 bodies. And then you go, well, there's another 18 bodies out there. And you go, where are they? And then you go, not so fast. I want something. I don't want the death penalty. And then you go, okay, no death penalty if you show us the shallow graves. Him's hair. Well, you know, hair loss isn't just about hair. It's about that moment when you look in the mirror and think, all right, when did this start happening? But you shouldn't have to stress over it or spend your weekends trying random junk that doesn't work. That's where hims comes in. They make it simple, personalized, expert backed care for guys who just want real results. Their ingredients can stop hair loss and start the regrow in as little as three to six months. And the best part? It's all online. You talk to a provider from home, get your plan, and have it shipped right to your door. No surprise fees, no awkward appointments. Just real care that fits your life. Think of HIMSS as your digital front door to getting back to your old self. 100% online, trusted and designed around you. It's hims. Right, Dawson?

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[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. I feel that's a weird. That's a weird deal to cut. I feel like we just go, look, we're gonna kill you or show us where the graves are. And then when you show us the last one, you go. We change our mind. And then people go, what happened to dignity in a man's word? And it's like, well, you're a serial killer, so we don't really need to do that. But Bundy.

[David Arquette]

But finding the bodies for the family, yeah, that's pretty obviously important.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't think my family would need my body back. I think they'd go, good, he's gone. I mean, look, nothing's gonna bring him back, really.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, that's true.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean? I mean, I come from atheist. I feel like they'd be good with that. Yeah. Well, in that case, yeah, I'm one of the few. I'm one of the few people, the only people in my family were my mom, my dad, my grandfather, my grandmother. And they all died. And there's no funeral, there's no wake, there's no headstone, there's no urn, there's no ashes, there's no anything. They're just gone.

[David Arquette]

No meeting, no party.

[Adam Carolla]

No party, no ambrosia salad.

[David Arquette]

I find that sad.

[Adam Carolla]

It is.

[David Arquette]

If that's the atheist way. I don't think that's fun. Well, because part of it's about the living that are here.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't see. I think there's two kinds of atheists. There's downtrodden, poor, lazy atheists, and then there's non religious atheists. So what the non religious atheists do is they go, well, Harold's dead, but man, that guy loved wakeboarding. So we're all going to the lake and we're wakeboarding and we're bringing booze and fireworks and we're gonna throw a big party. Cause Harold loved to wakeboard and drink Coronas at the beer at the lake. And that's not. Then there's atheists because you're just so fucking lazy. You don't want to do anything. So you just announce your atheist. But you're really de facto atheist because you don't want to go to church and do the tithing and sit and get dressed and put a tie on like you don't want to do anything. So I come from lazy atheists. Lazy atheists just say they're atheists, but they're really just lazy. And so when people die, there's no throw a party for them. See, I figured that the atheist death can be a bigger party than a religious death because you're just having fun and that's the way he liked it and blah blah, blah, like sense of humor stuff. But the atheist death is just a nothing.

[David Arquette]

That's sad.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, but that's why if I know. I guess that's the point of is the point. If the Green River Killer killed me and left me in the forest, I think it would be bullet dodge for my family. I think they would think, okay, we don't have to do anything. They wouldn't want my body recovered, okay? They'd be like, is that a cadaver sniffing dog? Yes, it is. You know, why don't you put them back in the car?

[David Arquette]

They would go swimming in the river.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't, I just don't feel like they'd look for me, that's all. But I don't know.

[David Arquette]

Hey, listen, that Makes it easier.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you do a thing like, when your mom died, when your dad died? You've had family members die? Was it a thing? Was it a. Because you guys don't strike me as religious.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, I mean, we are. I was born on a commune. We're not religious. We're spiritual. I'd say. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Born on a commune.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. Talk about that's rough.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, God.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. We threw a big party for my dad, although my dad had converted to Islam. So he said. I invited the people from his mosque, and they said, we don't celebrate death. It's like, okay, well, we're still gonna. Even.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know, is. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I grew up kind of around hippies, and I realized they're mainly just lazy. Like, they're atheists. Well, they do. They talk about a movement, but it's not really a movement. It's like, I don't fucking want to do shit.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. I don't know. I mean, there was a lot of.

[Adam Carolla]

What was the commune like?

[David Arquette]

I was really young when we were there, but it was just a group of people that live and sort of, you know, help in a sense. There's a communal aspect to the living. But, you know, the guy who started the spiritual philosophy, which it was based on, showed up and said, what are you guys all doing here? You shouldn't be isolating yourself.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[David Arquette]

You should go out and find, you know, what your special gift is in the world. Take it out into the world. Make the world a better place. So it sort of broke up the commune.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, that's an authentic commune leader.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, for sure.

[Adam Carolla]

Because, you know, that's a good sign.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah, he didn't believe in the commune at all.

[Adam Carolla]

That's who you want. Like, you almost want that guy, because the other guy is like, I'm going to play an acoustic guitar. I've wrote some original songs. You just bring your daughters by the hut, you know, and it's like, enjoy the Kool Aid. Enjoy the Kool Aid. Yeah. I don't trust that guy.

[David Arquette]

No, for sure.

[Adam Carolla]

You want the commune leader who doesn't want to lead the commune.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So your parents were cast out with young David Arquette.

[David Arquette]

We went to Chicago, where I then fell in love with Bozo.

[Adam Carolla]

And we fell in love with Bozo.

[David Arquette]

And then we moved to la.

[Adam Carolla]

And your family, everyone was acting at a young age.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, we all acted. You know, grew up doing it. Like, improv and different stuff. My dad was an Improvisational actor. We studied with a bunch of improv greats. And then what started doing plays in high school. That's what. I had a real great high school teacher, Ben Dibaldo, who really made me sort of believe in myself, was.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm thinking Chicago and improv and like, sort of that whole John Cusack. Yeah. He was around Jeremy Piveny kind of thing. Is that part of it?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Did they. They were an acting school and that kind of stuff?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah.

[David Arquette]

I think one of them may have studied with my mom for a second. She taught improv as well.

[Adam Carolla]

Your mom with the C cups?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Taught improv?

[David Arquette]

Yeah. I remember as a kid, for some reason, one memory is like, we all, like, formed a dragon. So someone's the, you know, mouth and someone's the head and someone's the arms. Some, you know, other people are the body and other people are the other arms, and everybody's the tail. And then you all move together, and then you make the dragon move. That kind of stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, they do a lot of. I did a lot of improv stuff. They do a lot of, like, a machine thing where you'd go, ching, dong, ching, and then someone joining bonk, bonk, bonk. It was sort of dumb. But also, it bothered me because I, like, have hypervigilance, and it bothered me when they'd go, all right, they got a giant manhole cover in the middle of the room. We're all gonna lift it. We're all gonna lift it. We're all getting a circle. Be, like nine people in a circle. Like, let's get down. Let's lift this big, heavy steel manhole cover. But there'd always be one guy standing across from me that'd be three feet higher. And everyone else is a down low going, this guy's up here. And I want to yell at him, like, get your fucking hands down. It's one manhole cover. Where are you with the manhole with.

[David Arquette]

That guy doing it?

[Adam Carolla]

I hate it.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not playing by those.

[Adam Carolla]

He's not playing by the rules.

[David Arquette]

I mean, you're supposed to go with it.

[Adam Carolla]

You gotta go with it.

[David Arquette]

Everybody's going.

[Adam Carolla]

So does that background, do you think it makes you, like, sort of creative and artistic, or do you rebel against it, or does it kind of scramble you a little bit?

[David Arquette]

I use it a lot.

[Adam Carolla]

You do?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Your upbringing?

[David Arquette]

In my upbringing, but, yeah. In my work, it. You know, I always look for little things. Depends on how open the directors and writers are to that type of thing. But especially if there's little moments because you want, like, I don't know, you want to keep things moving. You want to keep things fresh. You want to find little buttons and scenes and little threads throughout the movie that kind of, like, make it interesting. And, like, you know, you find a character, it's all character based. It's all relationship based. So as long as you find it from that place, you can do it. But there's different stuff. Like, if a, you know, character is having a hard time in this scene, so everything's going wrong, you know, he's on the wrong track. Like, you can find things within there that can also, you know, identify the character, but also kind of be some comedic moments or lead to a sort of joke or something.

[Adam Carolla]

What was the first big break for you?

[David Arquette]

Well, the first job I got was the Outsiders. It was a TV show based on the movie and book. Yeah. So that was my first job. It was 13 episodes, hour long on Fox when they first started as a network. And then on my second was Parenthood, which was also based on a movie.

[Adam Carolla]

I was gonna say. I didn't. I forgot they did Parenthood. The mo. The series.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a. I want to say underrated movie, but I don't think it's underrated. But I don't know. It's not fully appreciated for how good that movie was, you know, complex it was. And how, like, kind of nuanced it was and how funny it was.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. Like, there's a phone. Hawk. Tomahawk.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you got to see Bo Tomahawk.

[David Arquette]

You got to see Paranoid.

[Adam Carolla]

Paranoid had a lot of really, like, touching stuff in it and, like, good reality stuff in it and then humor in it as well.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. I did a movie called Beautiful Girls shortly after that that I feel like it has that kind of cool, like.

[Adam Carolla]

Beautiful Girls, like, group. Yes.

[David Arquette]

Movie.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. Who was in that? Tim. Who am I thinking of?

[David Arquette]

Tim Hutton.

[Adam Carolla]

Tim Hutton.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. He was in that. And what's her name was in that. Young. Yeah, Natalie.

[David Arquette]

Natalie Portman.

[Adam Carolla]

Natalie Portman. Rosie o'. Donnell.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. Rosie o' Donnell is incredible in that.

[Adam Carolla]

Who else was in that?

[David Arquette]

Was it. Uma Thurman was in it.

[Adam Carolla]

Uma Thurman was in it.

[David Arquette]

Was Matt Dillon was in it.

[Adam Carolla]

Matt Dillon was in it.

[David Arquette]

Rapaport. Michael Rappaport.

[Adam Carolla]

Michael Rapaport. Yeah. It was a good movie. Yeah, it was kind of. See, I remember seeing it in the theaters. It must have been, like, 94, 95, 96. I'm trying to think, like, when it. You remember.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

When was it?

[David Arquette]

It was after. I think it was after 96.

[Adam Carolla]

After 96. It was a good movie. And I would say.

[David Arquette]

Oh, maybe it was before 96.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it was. Yeah, it was Beautiful Girls. Let's see what year it is. Beautiful Girls is sort of like Diner, the movie.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, Diner's such a good one.

[Adam Carolla]

You gotta see Diner, and then we're gonna see both Girls.

[David Arquette]

That was one of those. When we were growing up, you gotta see Diner.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so Beautiful Girls was like Diner in that. It was like. It didn't really have a category. It wasn't like a comedy and it wasn't a drama. And it was just kind of slice of lifey. Lot of different people, lots of different stories going on. But, like, funny but, like, touching, but sort of interesting, but low key. And it was really good. And it sort of slides by the radar. Like, it doesn't pop up all the time on cable, but it's like Diner in that It's a great cast, it's a great story, it's well directed. Ted Demme, and it's kind of. Kind of got lost. Like, I don't know why it's not showing up more with the cast.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, totally. Kind of. It's kind of a little weird in retrospect. I don't know how much it holds up. It's going to get to the.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's because an underage girl has a crush on an older guy.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. And nothing, like, creepy happens, but.

[Adam Carolla]

February 96, by the way. Early 96. So that was like.

[David Arquette]

That was right before. I might have. No, I don't think I'd shot Scream yet.

[Adam Carolla]

Scream was a big deal.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's coming back, right?

[David Arquette]

Yeah, scream 7.

[Adam Carolla]

And your character was killed, but he's coming back anyway.

[David Arquette]

All I'm allowed to say is I'm glad to be part of the Scream family again. That's all I'm allowed to say.

[Adam Carolla]

So how much of. Well, first off, do you audition these days? Or is it just sort of like they know who you are and they'll get you the script or not get you the script?

[David Arquette]

There's different levels of films. You know, for certain things, you definitely have to audition. Other things, people come to me and. And, you know, make me an offer or see if I'm available or try to package me with other people to get their film financed.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. And then there's movies where there's a huge mega budget, whatever, and you got to come in.

[David Arquette]

Oh, yeah. Those kind. You. Yeah. Still you just right now it's like you send tapes in and then you send them into this void. And you typically. Like in the past, you'd hear, oh, it's not they liked you a lot, but they're going a different way or whatever it is now. You just never.

[Adam Carolla]

You're just saying, and nothing happened.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. Or that someone's like, oh, they actually. They liked you. It's a big surprise when you hear back Chime.

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[Adam Carolla]

I have an interesting question for you. Do you feel like you've gotten saner over the years?

[David Arquette]

Yes. Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

And do you feel like. I feel like guys get saner as they get older and women get crazier as they get older.

[David Arquette]

I'm not sure about that.

[Adam Carolla]

You don't want to get into trouble. I'll get in trouble. I know a lot of guys that were. Seem to be crazy when they're like 23.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And now they're 55 and they're not. Yeah.

[David Arquette]

I mean, I think. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I know a lot of women that weren't crazy at 23 that seemed crazy at 55. But maybe it's like a hormonal thing or something.

[David Arquette]

Hormones involved. For sure. We get less testosterone.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. We're just kind of waiting to die at this point. I mean, nothing left to prove except for Bozo.

[David Arquette]

I know you have to keep the. Keep it fresh things going that you're excited about.

[Adam Carolla]

You seem a lot saner now than you were. Like when you're in your 20s.

[David Arquette]

I. I guess I am. You know, you get humbled with life, for sure. You also like, look back at certain things and like cringe at, you know, things I've said or ways I've behaved for like the earlier conversation about big boobs and movies. I'm sure I'll knock myself. No. You know. Yeah. So I think you kind of hopefully. And I know, I don't know. I know I have an incredible wife who's really sort of grounded me. You know, I got relatively sober. I mean, I don't drink anymore or do anything else, but. But you know, I smoke pot once in a while if I have to go to sleep at some point.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Yeah.

[David Arquette]

If it's legal in the place.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, sleep is tough for the creative types. Cause you feel like your brain's always kind of spinning around. Like it's always like, I got an idea.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Like it just like trying to figure out how that works. But like I have a 110 pound Labrador and he can just sleep anywhere, anytime. Cause he doesn't have a lot going on, you know, and he's just kind of, I'm going to sleep.

[David Arquette]

That's the way to go.

[Adam Carolla]

And when you're nine, you can just go to sleep because you're not really. Mortgages and insurance and weight of the world. What's going on in the Middle east or like whatever, it's not really up. You just go to bed, someone tells you a story, boom, you're out. And then a lot of the guys I realized who, like I worked construction with who are like, let's just call them simpler guys, you know, just blue collar dudes. Those are the kind of guys you'd be driving with them in the car, and you, like, look at them and they're just asleep, you know. You know, also a fair amount of those guys fall asleep while driving, which I feel that seems difficult, but a lot of people do it.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then I started thinking, like, the simpler people seem to just go to bat and they can just do it. And then there's this sort of creative types, the artists and stuff. Always feel like the hamster wheel's spinning and they can't slow it down. You know what I mean? And then they go, I'm going to bed. And then they lay there and then their brain starts moving real fast and they're thinking about all this stuff. Stuff they want to do, stuff they wish they'd done, stuff they're gonna do. And then the substances come in. Because then you go, I gotta just knock this down. Like, I gotta slow the wheel down a little with, you know, a couple of drinks, you know, or something. Something like that. Just to slow it down. So, you know, being like an artistic type and I have the same thing. I'm like, have hyper vigilance, you know. I just feel like it's never a good time to go to bed. I wanna keep a notepad by my bed so I can write stuff down.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, the people that keep a notepad by their bed don't sleep as well as the people with nothing by their bed.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Cause they don't have that. So is that. Is that, like, a thing for you? Like, I've always felt, like, sort of artistic. And your mind was always just kind of going 80 miles an hour.

[David Arquette]

Definitely. Yeah. It's hard to shut it down. But, you know, I try to, like, do something creative or go for hikes or nature really helps, or doing some exercise and just. I don't know. I've learned that I kind of only need six hours sleep. Not. I think I'd like more, but it's hard for me to sleep more than that, really.

[Adam Carolla]

Because you feel like there's something to do.

[David Arquette]

I don't know. There always is sort of something. Well, I wake up so early. We live on a farm, so I wake up pretty early and I don't know, I'm just early. But I also go to bed pretty early.

[Adam Carolla]

Now you're on a farm?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Where's the farm?

[David Arquette]

Tennessee. And outside of Nashville.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Are you working that farm?

[David Arquette]

Yeah. I mean, if you go. I mean, it's a. You know, there are pets where they're not. We're not raising them. For meat garden and stuff. But we don't have like, you know, crops like. Like that. But yeah, I mean, we shovel poop all the time and put them in the poop spreader and. Yeah, all that. Feed the animals twice a day.

[Adam Carolla]

Is it. Is this.

[David Arquette]

My wife does the heavy lifting.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a better life, right?

[David Arquette]

It is.

[Adam Carolla]

Very saner life.

[David Arquette]

Like, it does ground you immediately.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, we're just not. We're not really meant to be like in the city staring at our phone all day. Right.

[David Arquette]

We're definitely not. Yeah. I mean, I'm still guilty of looking at my phone too much, for sure.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, there's a part. I mean, there's a business part where you like, you gotta make hay while the sun shines, as they say.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. And stay up on sort of current stuff. But I don't know, there's something about hauling hay and, you know, bedding and all this stuff you have to do. We just put the blankets on the horses after the first, you know, frost and had to give them their worming medicine, like all this weird stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

How does the Bob Ross artist thing come in and how does the certified instructor part?

[David Arquette]

Well, you go to New Smyrna Beach, Florida and you take a three week course. Really become certified? Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

It's all in Florida, isn't it?

[David Arquette]

Yeah, it's incredible.

[Adam Carolla]

And you become a certified Bob Ross instructor.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. You learn from. My instructor was a guy named Doug who studied under Bob, who's teaching you his exact technique that Bob came up with to teach the course. And you're doing it with about another 20 people in the room, maybe 30, and you're surrounded by Bob Ross paintings. It's pretty awesome because I learned it because we were pitching a show where I would teach somebody how to paint like Bob Ross and have conversation with them would be the premise of the show. But I wanted to be certified, to be able to do that. So I went there and I always loved Barras as a kid. I remembered him growing up and then he sort of became more visible. I was like, wow, I remember this guy. And like, and then started watching a lot of them and just sort of falling asleep to it. And like, I just wanted to learn the technique. And now I just pretty much use it for charities and stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Maybe you could combine your two loves and make Bob Bozo like an artist clown with a huge afro.

[David Arquette]

We did a little cartoon version with an orange afro for sure. And I have taught the Bob Ross technique because they have a kid's kit.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[David Arquette]

Yeah. So I have taught it asposo at Madame Zuzu's in Chicago with Billy Corgan and his wife Chloe. They have an amazing place called Madame Zuzu's, a tea place.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

You have taught Bob Ross painting as Bozo.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

At Billy Corgan's from Smashing Pumpkins and his wife's tea house.

[David Arquette]

Tea house. Yeah. So I come in and I came in. It's Bozo. I'm like, I'm starving. I'm starving. I'm so hungry. And then it's a vegan place. I'm teaching the course and I'm, you know, just telling them how hungry I am. And then I paid a guy down the street, the pizza place, they come in with a meat lovers pizza.

[Adam Carolla]

Really? Yeah. Is Billy Corrigan funny?

[David Arquette]

He loves Bozo.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he loves bozo. He's.

[David Arquette]

He loves Bozo and wrestling. We both have those two things in common.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. It's random but true. Yeah, we had a really fun show there. We did a whole weekend of Bozo shows.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, you're really taking this whole artist thing and running with it, so to speak.

[David Arquette]

Well, you got to. I mean, it's all like. That's the only thing. Since I don't drink anymore. Like, I still like to have a lot of fun and, like, do crazy things, and I like to bring people joy. And part of the whole thing of being an actor is, you know, doing something that hopefully people will like and enjoy and have a good time and like, kind of take the edge off. That's like what it's all about. Last night I was at a charity for Art of Elysium, and I dressed as Bozo and I went up and I sang a couple songs. Because we have a record now. I can take it. Give you one if you want. I have it in the car.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll take it.

[David Arquette]

Yeah, yeah. It's.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah.

[David Arquette]

It's a double album I did with Chippy the Clown Court conductor, my friend Graham Wheeler.

[Adam Carolla]

You brought up Elysium?

[David Arquette]

Yeah, Art of Elysium.

[Adam Carolla]

Which is weird because Elysium was the name of the nudist camp in Topanga Canyon that my grandmother wanted me to go to when I was like, 19. And she would go, like, you should go. And I'd go, no, I was like, 19. I was like, I don't want to go to somebody weird nudist camp in Topanga Canyon with your old friends. She's like, it's called. Was called Elysium.

[David Arquette]

The Elysium Killer. I'm just Kidding.

[Adam Carolla]

Sorry.

[David Arquette]

Sorry.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I love. Well, first off, I love anyone who's interested in stuff. Like, it bothers me when people are like, yeah, I don't know, who cares? We're not gonna do that. I don't like when people go, like, where you go, hey, why don't you do blah, blah, blah? And they go, I'm not gonna do that. I don't like that. I like the every good experience or meaningful experience I've really ever had in my life is cause someone went, hey, you want to do something? Something? And I went, yeah, let's do it.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then at some point, you're doing it. You know what I mean? And it's like sometimes you show up and you go, what am I doing? But you agreed to it and you just went, I'll do it.

[David Arquette]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And there's a good. People should say yes to more stuff, for sure. People sit around and go, why did you do this? And why did you? And I go, I don't know. Someone asked me, me. I just did it.

[David Arquette]

Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

And it was like a cool experience. And then I met a bunch of people.

[David Arquette]

Well, that's what it is. You love, like, racing and stuff. When you get into that world and you find out, like, how I love wrestling and all these things. When you get into that world, you meet all these people and they also love it. So you're surrounded by people who love the same things you're doing that you love. So you're constantly. Then you're surrounded by vendors who carry that stuff, and you're, you know, meet these legends who've done it for years. So it's like when you get involved in different things and you never know where those sort of surprises are going to come from.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. Versus, I'm not going to do that. I know. I. When I was saying, I was thinking about this race that somebody said, you want to do a professional race, a Trans Am race? And I went, yeah.

[David Arquette]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then next thing you know, I'm just showing up and there's trailers and semi trucks and techs and cars and officials and stuff. And I'm just like looking around going, what are we doing? And they're like, you signed up, we're doing it. And next, you know, you're in the race. And it's crazy, but it's because I didn't think about it that much. My default reaction was to go, yeah, let's do it. And I don't know, I think in a weird way, we're telling people to be Too safe or too careful or too guarded or too like, well, is this. How are you going to be perceived? Or what is this? People get really suspicious, like, what is it? How many followers do they have, like, all this stuff? And I'm just like, I just say yes, by the way, half the time when people go, why'd you do this? Or, why'd you do that? I just go, they asked. And I just went, yeah, why not? As opposed to what? No. Go home.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. I think experiences are one of the great things about life. Like when you can find these different experiences and these random things and moments. And, you know, one thing I did love about drinking in the past is that I, I was the kind of drinker that I guess it would be like, ADD juice. Because I'd just be like, yeah, I'd do all these things. Like, if I cured someone's birthday, I'd be like, it's your birthday. And then I'd zero in on them, like, we're gonna make it the best birthday of your life. And then we. I take them on this, like, birthday mission or, like, you know, whatever. I would just have these random things, like somebody new in town, like, you've never seen Hollywood. Let's go. Like, take them to every weird.

[Adam Carolla]

Never seen bone. Tomahawk. Yeah, we're going now.

[David Arquette]

We're going on a survivalist mission. We're gonna find them.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. The movie, by the way, the Perfect Gamble, in theaters and streaming November 14th. That's tomorrow. So you hear this. And it's in theaters and it's also on Apple tv, Prime Video, Vudu, everywhere, Instagram, Avid. Arquette. Always a good conversation. David Arquette.

[David Arquette]

Yeah. It's great seeing you again.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Come back anytime. Come off the farm and come say hi. Yeah. Saturday night I'm gonna be in Los Angeles at the upstairs doing stand up there. And then I'll be November 24th, Woodlands, Texas, at the Do Si Do Big Barn. Cause I said yes. And then Corona at Das Lagos Amphitheater with Jay Moore is going to be there. You go to AdamCoroll.com for all the live shows. Until next time, Adam Carolla for David Arquette saying, Mahala, pick up your phone.

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