Dean Delray + Titus Welliver

Summary

Adam Carolla Show Episode Summary: Dean Del Rey + Titus Welliver
Release Date: April 17, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of The Adam Carolla Show, host Adam Carolla welcomes comedian Dean Del Rey and acclaimed actor Titus Welliver, known for his roles in Bosch and Rough Light, among others. The trio delves into a range of topics, from personal struggles and career insights to societal observations and personal losses.

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Dean Del Rey’s Stand-Up and Career

The show kicks off with Dean Del Rey discussing his latest stand-up special, “5836”, available on YouTube. Del Rey shares his meticulous method of tracking his numerous sets, highlighting his dedication to his craft.

Dean Del Rey [03:15]: "I kept writing them in the notes on the phone."

Dean emphasizes the importance of consistency and record-keeping in comedy, contrasting it with Adam's admitted lack of the same habit.

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Personal Stories: Growing Up in Poverty and Paper Route

Del Rey opens up about his challenging upbringing, detailing life on a paper route to support his single mother. He reminisces about the stigma of government assistance and the camaraderie among his poor friends.

Dean Del Rey [07:33]: "People would be like, you gotta go to Cantor's or you gotta go to Greenblatts. And I was like, you gotta go to high school. Government sandwich."

The conversation shifts to Adam’s own experiences with a paper route, underscoring the generational differences in handling poverty and responsibility.

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The Costly Nature of a Litigious Society

Adam critiques the modern litigious culture, discussing how systems intended to provide aid often become breeding grounds for deceit and exploitation. He draws parallels between contemporary issues and personal anecdotes about tax deductions and business practices.

Adam Carolla [50:17]: "Nobody who is successful doesn't have instances of this somewhere sometimes, and oftentimes they're unaware of it because they have accountants that are doing stuff."

This segment highlights the irony of advocating for accountability while being ensnared by the very systems that undermine it.

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Environmental Impact of Dogs: A Comedic Take

The trio humorously debates reports suggesting dogs are harmful to the environment. They mock the studies and express skepticism about environmental campaigns targeting pets.

Dean Del Rey [54:15]: "They kill."

Adam further satirizes the notion, comparing it to blaming pets for environmental degradation while humans remain the primary culprits.

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Tribute to DJ Jed the Fish

Dean Del Rey pays homage to his friend, DJ Jed the Fish of K Rock, who recently passed away at 69. They reminisce about Jed’s influence on the Los Angeles radio scene and his vibrant personality.

Adam Carolla [66:53]: "And I had a great afternoon with him. He was a funny, quirky guy with an infectious laugh."

This heartfelt tribute underscores the deep personal connections formed through shared passions and professional environments.

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Grief and Personal Loss: Titus Welliver’s Experiences

Titus Welliver shares his profound personal losses, including the deaths of his siblings and late wife. He discusses the complexities of grief, the importance of memories in keeping loved ones alive in spirit, and the challenges of coping with such tragedies.

Titus Welliver [85:14]: "Nothing, no matter what, nothing prepares you for any of that stuff."

Adam reflects on his own experiences with loss, emphasizing the universal nature of grief and the coping mechanisms that vary from person to person.

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Philosophical Discussions: Memory, Existence, and Human Ingenuity

The conversation evolves into a philosophical exploration of memory's role in keeping departed loved ones present in our lives. They also marvel at human ingenuity, likening massive construction projects to ant colonies rebuilding anthills.

Adam Carolla [79:36]: "If you really break it down, it's not like you see your sister or your friend. You don’t see him every day."

This segment highlights the resilience of the human spirit and the intricate balance between technological advancement and emotional fulfillment.

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Societal Observations: Passivity vs. Action

Adam and Titus critique the growing societal passivity, observing how people today are less inclined to intervene in confrontations compared to previous generations. They discuss the impact of a litigious environment and shifting masculine roles on interpersonal dynamics and community responsibility.

Adam Carolla [112:35]: "We need men back involved in saying, look, there's a role."

Titus echoes these sentiments, advocating for a return to proactive engagement and responsibility as pillars of a healthy society.

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Closing Remarks

As the episode concludes, Adam invites listeners to check out Dean Del Rey’s stand-up special and previews upcoming segments featuring Titus Welliver discussing his role in Bosch Legacy. The episode wraps up with reflections on legacy, memory, and the enduring impact of personal connections.

Adam Carolla [144:43]: "Always a pleasure. Until next time..."

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Notable Quotes:

• Dean Del Rey [03:15]: "I kept writing them in the notes on the phone."

• Adam Carolla [50:17]: "Nobody who is successful doesn't have instances of this somewhere sometimes, and oftentimes they're unaware of it because they have accountants that are doing stuff."

• Titus Welliver [85:14]: "Nothing, no matter what, nothing prepares you for any of that stuff."

• Titus Welliver [93:45]: "He'd be wild."

This episode offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and deep reflections, providing listeners with an intimate glimpse into the lives and thoughts of Dean Del Rey and Titus Welliver.

Transcript

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[Jason Mayhem Miller]

From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, comedian Dean Del Rey and actor Titus Welliver. Plus the news and trending topics with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now, hoping his alma mater Valley College doesn't lose their federal funding, Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Get it on. Got to get on the church. We get on. Get it on. Thanks. Tune in. Thanks for telling a friend. Dean Del Rey back in studio. Dean's got a standup special out as we speak. 5836, available on YouTube. And it is named that because that's.

[Dean Del Rey]

What set it was.

[Adam Carolla]

In my career, how did you possibly keep track of all your sets?

[Dean Del Rey]

I just. When I started, I was just like, let's just. I'll just write these down. I'll do comedy a couple weeks, and then later in life, when I'm writing a book or something, I'll be like, this is when I did comedy. And then it bit me like a snake. And I just kept going and I just kept writing them in, in the. In the notes on the phone.

[Adam Carolla]

So I'm trying to think. I would have no idea how many sets I did within 2000. I probably couldn't. Couldn't narrow it down. But I don't think most comedians do, do they? I don't maybe in a minority here.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, I just did it. So this year, this is what it looks like just to show you. So this year, I'm at 110 already. So you just write, know the date, the time. Usually I went on where it was.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, I listen. It's commendable.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I would just never do it.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But is it O, C, D, E, or is it just pragmatic?

[Dean Del Rey]

I think it was just. It started to turn into different things. It was kind of a work ethic thing.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Dean Del Rey]

I got on again. I put it down kind of like some. It was glory. Oh, I got another set. And then I started using it as like. Okay, let's go back a year ago. I was here. Let's see when it was then I can go back and listen to the recording, what I did. So I don't really repeat stuff or whatever, you know, smart.

[Adam Carolla]

I never do that, but I always do. I come back to town and I go, what did I do here last time? And then I have no idea because I didn't record it and I didn't write it down. And I don't have it figured out. But I feel. And I don't know what your background is, but a lot of comedians are here because we're traditionally lazy and that we're not good students. And writing stuff down in order and keeping track of stuff is not really a strong point for most comedians. Now there are a couple people who are like comedians, and they're sort of like honor Students like Jimmy Kimmel's, that kind of guy.

[Dean Del Rey]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

And when you take a sort of honor student and mix it with comedy, then you get hosting the Oscars four times.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh man.

[Adam Carolla]

So you really do. You get next level. Cause what you get is like a kind of punctuality and a responsibility and a sobriety that you would take in the corporate world. But now you're doing it with a bunch of junkies and flunkies and you go right to the top, you know. But you don't strike me as an A student in high school. I take that in the spirit in.

[Dean Del Rey]

Which it was intended school, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I did too. So where did this studious stenographer part kick in?

[Dean Del Rey]

It came from my mom. She had like insane work ethic, you know, so she was a single mom, divorced, and you know, we were poor. Government cheese, all that shit. And so she was really like, be on time, don't call in sick. Do the job they hired you to do. And. And that was really where it came from, you know, I wanted to, you know, just be at the club on time. They could rely on me that way. They'd call me like, somebody dropped out, you want to go on? And I'd be like, I'm there. And I was on a motorcycle. I did most of those spots on a motorcycle so I could get places really quick, skip the traffic.

[Adam Carolla]

In la.

[Dean Del Rey]

In la, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. What kind of bike did you have?

[Dean Del Rey]

I had a Beamer GS 1200. Then I had a Harley Road Glide, just Baggers, because I'd ride it all over California to do the spots and.

[Adam Carolla]

Give me some good poor person government cheese talk. I love good poor people stories. I love tales of the cheap.

[Dean Del Rey]

Well, you know, the funniest thing about it is they used to give you free lunch and for a while you would have to have this kind of a thing you showed. Yeah, they realized that that was embarrassing to the students, so then they just. And they already knew we were the poor guy. You know, you get up to the register at school for lunch, but the funny thing about it is they had this hot pastrami sandwich.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Where'd you go?

[Dean Del Rey]

It was up in NorCal.

[Adam Carolla]

Uh huh.

[Dean Del Rey]

So hot pastrami sandwich. And that was gold to me. And I never had a pastrami sandwich. People would be like, you gotta go to Cantor's or you gotta go to Greenblatts. And I was like, you gotta go to high school. Government sandwich.

[Adam Carolla]

No, you're. You're bringing up a good point. Because I was a I was a free lunch program dude myself, right? And we just had. It was funny. They just had lunch tickets, right? We had some sort of universal. There was a monopoly on tickets. It was a big roll of red tickets that you pull off for about an inch and a half long. And when you'd go the carnival, you'd get the ticket. When you went in the lunch line, it was like one ticket, you know, and you hand them the ticket, and the hot dogs suck, and the hamburgers suck, and the pizza suck. But when I got to junior high, the pastrami sandwich was a big deal.

[Dean Del Rey]

Isn't that fucking nuts?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I don't know why they didn't fuck up that pastrami sandwich, or maybe you can't, but they fucked up everything else.

[Dean Del Rey]

I'll tell you a funny story. A guy told me, hey, have you tried all about the Bread? It's on Melrose. It's a sandwich shop, and they make their own bread. I go, no. And he goes, oh, you got to go. It's great. So I eat there one day, and I go, holy shit. This is the free lunch pastrami sandwich. It had the same flavors. And I was like, oh, God, this is my spot.

[Adam Carolla]

So nothing better. Pastrami sandwich, but all right. So poor guy growing up.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Lunch program.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. And not embarrassed, either, because all my friends were poor in the neighborhood. It was like, fresh divorces happen in the seventies. Dads were splitting.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

There was no money. And you actually got those food stamps that were like. They looked like the tickets for Disneyland.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

I'm off.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Yeah. I always. I remember the food stamp argument. My mom tried to buy cat food. They were explaining to her, no cat food. And I'm like, what if we eat the cat food?

[Dean Del Rey]

Cigarettes was the one my mom would try to get.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really? See, my mom didn't smoke, but we had a stray cat. Yeah. You know, somebody should have worked a deal out. I think they do now. We're probably sold. Those people go in, buy a can of beans, come out and trade them for some cigarettes or something.

[Dean Del Rey]

Well, I think the gangster way would go if you went to the corner store, kind of bodega type of places.

[Dawson]

Oh, yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

The guy would be like, all right, you give me $5 in those, and I'll give you the cigarettes. It's like, right, you. So you're paying, like, you know, cigarettes back then were 75 cents or whatever. So you're paying $5, but.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Dean Del Rey]

You know, so he was making money.

[Adam Carolla]

It's so. It's so amazing that 10 minutes after the system is in place, the grift begins.

[Dean Del Rey]

That's like with the counterfeit bills.

[Adam Carolla]

It's with everything new.

[Dean Del Rey]

One comes out, they're like, we already got that.

[Adam Carolla]

It's just human nature is there's, you know, Covid, there's a lockdown. Then someone's going to give government payment to small businesses. And the grift is on. Like, it just. It just begins.

[Dawson]

Listen. But I came up on a bunch of M95 masks immediately.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

[Dawson]

I was in on the grift.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I've never been a good grifter because it takes a lot of energy. I feel like the amount of effort my mom put into being poor, she could have just had a well paying job, you know what I mean? It just took so much energy with the waiting in line everywhere and the waiting for the stamps and the waiting for the welfare and the arguments about cat food and stuff like that. You could have just.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, they were paying women back there back then any money. So that's impossible. Yeah, I mean, I was paper routing it.

[Adam Carolla]

You were paper routing it?

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, yeah. That was so fucking weird.

[Adam Carolla]

Paper route is a good base. It's a good pre. McDonald's base in terms of learning how to work.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You can't work at McDonald's when you're 12. No, but you show. You show me someone who had a paper route from like age 10 to 15 and a half and then went to McDonald's. I go, that fucker knows how to work.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, that was me, man. I called it the America sweatshop.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

You know, because you work all fucking month. And then they go, here's $3.90 or whatever. And you're like, are you out of your mind? Like, you got on Sunday, you're getting up and then you're getting these crazy old men. I said, the portrait, motherfucker.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't want to be a one downer, but I will go even lower than you. Yeah, I never had a paper route, but I got sucked into many a friend's paper route.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Because my fucking house didn't have any food in it. It was a piece of shit. My mom was depressed, so I would sleep over at my friend's house a lot. And I'd be there Saturday night eating up all their instant pudding.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, I'm that way, too.

[Adam Carolla]

And all their food. I was in their pantry and everything. And at some point I'd turn around and they go, you know, it's time to pay the Fiddler. Tomorrow morning I'd be like, I'll have another pop dart. But we're getting up at 5:30 and I'm like, where are we going? We're folding papers, we're doing inserts and then we're going on my route. And I never said, how about I just sleep in and have another pop dart. I got fucking recruited. And then I would even take over dudes routes where they'd go like, I'm not going to be here Sunday, but you got to take over my route. But I never got paid.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So I'm the only guy who's been on 15 different routes but never, never got a penny. But I would see those guys try to.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, it was crazy.

[Adam Carolla]

And the guy's arguing with the one got wet, so let's back out. 50 cents. And it's like, oh, what a fucking job for a 12 year old.

[Dean Del Rey]

It's fucking nuts.

[Adam Carolla]

It should be illegal. Oh, I think it is now.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. And don't even fucking get me started on, you know, at the end of the month you gotta go knock on these fuckers doors and collect.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

And they're hiding over like $2 and I see you in there.

[Adam Carolla]

I went with my friends even to collect.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Because there was never any food in my house. I didn't have anything to do. So I was always just like hanging out. And they'd be like, we're going collecting the muscle. And I'd just be standing there, my buddy Ray be arguing with the guy and the old man in his bathrobe be arguing.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Well what they do is they go, two Wednesdays ago you dropped the paper on the lawn, then the sprinklers kicked on, the paper got ruined. So I'm not paying for that paper.

[Dean Del Rey]

It's like, it is nuts.

[Adam Carolla]

Christ.

[Dean Del Rey]

It was the first time I saw a guy with a tracheotomy.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh yeah, like, yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

I knocked on the door, the guy, because I had just taken over a new paper route and the guy opened the door and he looked at you, kid, I'm not paying for the paper. He just raised his finger like one minute. And I thought he was going to get the money, but he was going to get his fucking machine. And he came over, how can I help you? And I just, I'd never seen anything like that. I ran that guy got the paper free. He got the paper free for the rest of my paper route career.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, let me. Now you tell me. Maybe I'm coming from white privilege here, but I just don't feel Like I would really haggle with a poor person at this stage, but maybe even in modern times. And what I'm saying is you got some 50 year old dude smoking in his bathrobe, he's a homeowner. And then you got some poor fucking dude who's eating government cheese, single mom welfare, 12 years old, and you're fucking throwing down over 50 cents. I feel like now you just someone peel off five and go, yeah, take that, get yourself a pastrami sandwich or something. And it's not just being rich. My family would argue and haggle and it's like, you wanna go, that guy's poor.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, it's like, I'm not paying you for driving time. It's like the guy's got a pickup truck, it's a gas guzzler. Like, why do you hassle why? And I have, it's not about having money because I've had girlfriends when I was poor and the girlfriend was poor, but if they were like a waitress and we'd eat out, they'd go, you gotta leave them a good tip. And they rely on tips. Like it's a different mentality. Maybe now, like you just wouldn't. We like poor people better or we decide they're noble or something, but they fucking hassled the shit. I went and did a job at a rich woman's house and I bought a bunch of crown molding. I was a carpenter, blah, blah, blah. And we had a little dispute and I had all the crown molding I'd already delivered to the house. And she's living up in the hills of the Palisades and like a $5 million house and she's rich and she's like middle age. And at some point I just said to her, look, we've had our disagreements, she was cunt and we're going our separate ways. But like, I fronted you 300 bucks for the crown molding and that's a lot of money to me because I'm poor.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I just would respectfully hope that you return the. Reimburse me the $300. She's like, fuck off.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm like, what the fuck? I got a beat up Datsun pickup truck in the driveway. But I feel like now it's a. It's different. I don't think there'd be this much abuse of the poor. Or am I wrong?

[Dean Del Rey]

I mean, I look at it the other way too, where you get these fuckers that come over and you go, hey, I want to get this. You Know, bathtub fixed, and then you front of money and then they, you know they're robbing Peter to pay Paul, right? So then they disappear and you're calling him for months going, hey, dude, I need this job finished. And they're like, oh man, I'll get over there. And then they just, you know, they put it off and off to where you become furious.

[Adam Carolla]

So, but do you think in modern times, if the 12 year old version of you showed up to the house in the San Fernando Valley to get paid your $7, that homeowner Dawson over there would be fucking trying to Jew you down? Is the guys on the job site say, like they're quick haggling with you or would you just peel off 10 bucks and go, yeah, there you go, there's a tip.

[Dean Del Rey]

I don't know. I see videos all day of these. You know, the, the Karen and so.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it's Karen.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, I think it's still out there for sure.

[Adam Carolla]

But also, they didn't look at you as a kid. They just looked at you as someone who showed up to get money.

[Dean Del Rey]

That was wild, man. You're literally on your BMX bike.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, like we treat kids at least like kids now, right?

[Dean Del Rey]

And then you're like, your hands are black from ink. You got like ink on your face and you know, you're, you're huffing in like paper dust as you're folding those things, putting those inserts, all the inserts, you got them all lined up and you're like, okay, okay. And then the rubber band and then the paper place would charge you for the rubber bands.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't think kids, as best I could tell, because I was thinking about this the other day, if newspapers are delivered at all, they're done by middle aged Guatemalan women in pickup trucks at like 5 in the morning, right? And the reason I know this is a. I've never seen a kid riding a bike, throwing a newspaper.

[Dean Del Rey]

Never.

[Adam Carolla]

Never anymore. But remember, you can find the story, Dawson. It was pretty funny. There was that LAPD cop who went rogue, Chris Dorner. Chris Dorner, who's a dear friend of Mayhem Miller.

[Dawson]

That guy, he did everything right and they still messed him up. He just went on a Rambo style annihilation of everyone in Los Angeles. Put the whole city on lockdown for a minute. Got two Guatemalan ladies shot by the lapd.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, what do we need Dawson for? That was about six years ago or something.

[Dawson]

I remember it clearly.

[Adam Carolla]

Chris Dorner, who was a giant black man, when was it?

[Dean Del Rey]

2013.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh. So it's been 12 years. Chris Dorner's a giant black former LAPD guy. Just a big mountain of a black man. And the reason I'm stressing that is because he was driving a pickup truck. And LAPD was freaked out because he was on a rampage and he was coming out for vengeance for them and blah, blah, blah.

[Dean Del Rey]

They fired him or something.

[Dawson]

Oh, yeah. And he, like, had filed complaints that they were doing stuff wrong. Nobody listened to him. And instead of keep going through the right channels, he went through the right.

[Adam Carolla]

Channel, picked up a gun. Yeah. So. But this is funny. I mean, I'm funny. Haha.

[Dawson]

But I know you say funny, but.

[Adam Carolla]

It'S dark, but it's not.

[Dawson]

We're dark over here.

[Adam Carolla]

So somebody was like, this Guy's driving a 97 Tacoma pickup truck that's gray or whatever it was. And then at some point, somebody went, hey, there's a Tacoma pickup truck that's gray and it's on this street. And LAPD was like, all right. And they rolled on it and they just started unloading on the back.

[Dean Del Rey]

No license plate check.

[Dawson]

They lost two. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

It was a different make and a different color pickup truck. And they just started shooting at it. Right.

[Titus Welliver]

Which is.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, wow, look at that now.

[Adam Carolla]

They put like 123 bullets into a pickup truck.

[Dean Del Rey]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

And it didn't turn out to be one giant black man in it. It was two miniature Guatemalan women who were in it, who were delivering newspapers at 5:30 in the morning. Which is one of these things where I want to tell everyone from Black Lives Matter, this shit happens all the time to different groups all the time. You just don't hear about it. Because if there's just two black people in this truck, people would have been going nuts. We'd have burned the city to the ground. Now here's the funny part. They missed both chicks.

[Dean Del Rey]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

Even though they were firing at the headrest.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Dawson]

Yeah. God loves drugs and new surprises.

[Dean Del Rey]

Did they die then? How'd they die?

[Adam Carolla]

They didn't die.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, wow.

[Adam Carolla]

They're fine. Wow.

[Dean Del Rey]

God was with them.

[Adam Carolla]

I got a little bit of a lawsuit in there.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, excellent. No more paper route.

[Dawson]

This shit was divine.

[Dean Del Rey]

Fuck that paper out.

[Adam Carolla]

Nobody got fired. It was like no one cared. Because it was like, look, it's two poor Mexican ladies out doing a paper out in the morning. Anyone give a fuck who represents that? Yeah. Jesse Jackson Give a fuck. Answer? No. So who cares? They never really hear about it. Except for evidently Mayhem over here is.

[Dawson]

An expert on later on they burned the cabin that he was hiding out in Big Bear to the ground.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, yeah, they weren't fucking around.

[Dean Del Rey]

I didn't hear about this.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a crazy story.

[Dean Del Rey]

Must have been, you know, on. On the road or something.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, it's. Well, they were on the road, too, but they were getting shot at. But the thing that was crazy about it is you're looking for one giant black man, right. And you fire on two miniature Hispanic women who are in the wrong model color pickup truck.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Could you have things up any more than that?

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, I mean, we hear about that every day.

[Adam Carolla]

But you know what? I. I said this at the time, and I mean it. They bought them a new pickup truck.

[Dean Del Rey]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

But you know what I would have said? I would have said, no, thanks. I'm keeping this pickup truck. Oh, yeah, because the thing ran fine. It's just got a bunch of holes in the tailgate, you know?

[Dean Del Rey]

Probably look pretty cool. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You're never getting another speeding ticket as long as you live. Because when you get pulled over, you're.

[Dean Del Rey]

Like, you know who I am, right?

[Adam Carolla]

You go, no, you just start off. They go, you know, you're doing 80 and a 65. And I go, o. Would you say that's dangerous, Officer? Yeah, yeah, it's pretty dangerous out there. You know what else is dangerous? 17 of your buddies unloading a clip in the fucking back of my niece's head.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. You want to count the bullet holes? Don't worry, I've done it. 123. Yeah, some of those may be from your gun. So, anyway, keep talking to me about safety while you write me this ticket, and the guy would have just run. Sorry. Sorry, man. He just walked away. You never get another ticket. Yeah, you wouldn't get a parking ticket. You wouldn't get a speeding ride. You do whatever you wanted in that truck, by the way. That's a Toyota. The engine's fine. Tranny's fine. It's not like they shot up the rear end. It's just a bunch of cosmetic stuff.

[Dawson]

Ganges blocked fine.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, truck runs fine.

[Dawson]

Radiator good.

[Dean Del Rey]

They probably confiscated that. And they use it for, like, you know, undercover downtown, you know. You ever seen that? There's undercover cops, and they'll be like, in a 81 trans am.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, are you talking about bait cars?

[Dawson]

No, I seen a bait.

[Dean Del Rey]

Not bait cars. There's actual cops undercover that use these old cars out of the tow yard.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I see.

[Dean Del Rey]

And they're, you know, they've been impounded. So you're like walking around downtown and you'll just see two dudes that look like a Beastie Boy Sabotage video with the mustard. Like that's still the undercover look. A mustache. Yeah, like that's a cop for sure.

[Adam Carolla]

We were way too impressed with that video when it came out.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, I love it.

[Adam Carolla]

I know too. But it's just 23 year old guy with a fake mustache jumping over roof parapet and running at a camera. It's like. That wasn't high art.

[Dean Del Rey]

Well, it was a spin on Code Jack and Barretta.

[Adam Carolla]

I get it. It was fun. But we were, we were too impressed with it. That's all I'm saying at the time. But if you look at it now, you're kind of.

[Dawson]

It doesn't deserve its video music award.

[Dean Del Rey]

I don't know, man.

[Adam Carolla]

You don't know.

[Dean Del Rey]

I love that because those guys, I mean their videos were just so good, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

In a comedic way. That thing's a fucking masterpiece.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Of its kind of. If you watch it now, I don't.

[Dean Del Rey]

Think you're gonna think it's a masterpiece. I don't even know what Beretta was so. Or. Or, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

No, out of context. I'm saying it's still just the production value wasn't. Look, what I'm saying is like a lot of those MTV videos from back in the day were like Journey would just be standing on a dock playing air guitar.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And a chick that was like a. A half would come walking by and they'd be like. Yeah, like that's our video. And you're like.

[Dean Del Rey]

With the moose knuckle.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

Pants down the dude.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not a. That's a great. You know, ZZ Top had a cool car and the guys would point and stuff. But if you look at it now, you wouldn't be overly impressed.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

With it. It's all.

[Dawson]

All I'm saying, low grade YouTube now.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I wanted to talk about. There's a funny clip. You know, we talk about term limits and like, you know, look, if you're up for the job, you're up for the job. But someone sent me a tweet of Chuck Grassley, who's an old senator, I guess, and was trying to do a town hallie thing. Where's he representing? What is Chuck Grassley? He's a senator from. He's trying to do a town hall and he's 91 years old.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And his constituencies yelling at him the whole time. And it became. It bordered on senior abuse to me. But like my dad died a few months ago. He was like 92 and a half. He's fucking old at 91. Like, you sit down and he's like, you're. You're your sister at. Lauren. Yeah, yeah, right, Lauren. You know, like, he's 91. Like, it's not firing. Like, I don't know. We. I don't. Commercial airline pilot. They cut you off at 66. Like, they go, sorry, man. And you go, hey, listen, I'm fucking. I ran a half marathon last year. It's like, sorry. Yeah, you just. You're this age. Sorry.

[Dean Del Rey]

Mick Jagger, 81, touring. Come on, let me fly.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree, but listen to Chuck. It's funny. He's from Iowa. Trump don't care if I get an order for twelve hundred dollars and I just say no.

[Dean Del Rey]

Does that stand up?

[Titus Welliver]

Because he's got an order from the.

[Adam Carolla]

Supreme Court and he just said no.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, screw it.

[Titus Welliver]

I'll be able to answer your question.

[Narrator]

You ignored my letter.

[Adam Carolla]

You ignored my 91.

[Dean Del Rey]

El Salvador is an independent country.

[Adam Carolla]

He's gonna get hit with a folding chair and die.

[Dawson]

Purse would kill that guy.

[Dean Del Rey]

If you pause this for one minute and look at the guy in the red hat. He's definitely from the Beastie Boys video. But he's older now.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he's older now.

[Dean Del Rey]

He's got the mustache and the mullet.

[Adam Carolla]

Good catch.

[Dean Del Rey]

There he is right there. Under cover.

[Dawson]

Yeah, I can't stand it.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. I don't know. Do we cut it off? All right, look, here's. All right. I'm not going to sign an age to it, but I'm. We're going to have to have, like, an aptitude test like you're going to. We're going to have a little punt, pass and kick competition. Like you cannot. If you're having difficulty, we got to get you out of there.

[Dean Del Rey]

We need some volume on the guy, too. He's just mumble.

[Adam Carolla]

You got to mic him up. And the people are, like, angry. And also, I like when people go, I sent you a letter and you didn't respond. It's like, yeah, I sent Superman a letter when I was nine and you didn't get back to me. And then I sent Santa one when I was nine.

[Dean Del Rey]

Letter.

[Adam Carolla]

A letter.

[Dean Del Rey]

20, 25. I sent you a letter.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on, let me get my quill out. Martha, cancel my afternoon's schedule. I got to return this taxpayer's letter.

[Dean Del Rey]

If I'm 91, man, I want to fucking just sit on the couch and do some donata. Yeah, I mean, just chill These guys are like, I gotta go down there and argue.

[Adam Carolla]

And everyone's pissed off.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, God.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, I'm not also. This is what Zoom is for.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm not going standing in amongst a bunch of angry people and getting yelled at about letters. And then somebody yells like, speak up. And, you know, it's funny too, because the person yelled speak up was only 76. They're like a spring chicken, you know, hey, Pops, come on, before my skateboard gets stolen.

[Dean Del Rey]

I left it out working, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

God damn it.

[Dean Del Rey]

That was crazy because he was literally just going.

[Adam Carolla]

He'S. He's 91. Yeah. Can we at least say once you make it to 90. Yeah, we're turning the page.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

That's.

[Dawson]

I was thinking he'd seem pretty strong for 91, though.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, it's good. It's. It's like saying. It's like saying, listen, Tyson could beat any other 57 year old's ass, right? But could he beat a 31 year old's ass? And I don't want guys who are good for their age. You know what I mean?

[Dean Del Rey]

That's a classic.

[Adam Carolla]

I feel that way with the SI swimsuit edition. Like, she looks good for 73. It's like, get a 22 year old, put her in a fucking two piece, would you, please?

[Dean Del Rey]

You don't want to know your granny.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I don't want any. Like, every once in a while you'll drive around and you'll go like, jesus Christ. That. That Chevy Vega's pretty cherry. Chevy Vega. It's still a Chevy Vega. It's cherry, but it's still a. I want to say I want a Lamborghini. That's all. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. All right. I got something else to get into. I don't know what you guys think about this, and I don't want to be morose, but take the show down. But I feel like you guys are qualified to get into some heavy shit. But I'm also curious if my head on it is different than yours. So I told you my friend actor Nikki Cat died a couple of days back. He was done all these different movies very long who's who of movies. Interesting eccentric guy, Fun guy. Used to hang out with him at the track and come back to the Airbnb and have some drinks and watch some old movies. Old Hollywood aficionado and just a character. Brought gifts for everyone all the time. Interesting guy. But anyway, I was very upset to find out that he took his own life on Saturday and then you know, as you sort of dig deeper into it, it's like, well, he hanged himself, you know? And you're like, I'm always like, God damn it. And then he didn't leave a note. And I'm like, I don't know. Why not? Leaving a note says something more depressing to me. As if it could get any more depressing. But no note. And no note just means I just. I don't have anybody. Anything. Nothing. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, if I was doing that, I'd have to write both my kids a note. You know, this doesn't have anything to do with you. That'd be for the boy. For the girl, be like, this has something to do with you, but don't blame yourself. I'm being honest, you know, 20% max, maybe 25, but mostly your mom. But anyway, let's move forward. But just punching out, zero note feels more depressing.

[Dean Del Rey]

Did he have family?

[Adam Carolla]

He had. We can look it up. His mom, who was sort of his whole world, died a couple days ago, a couple years earlier. And I think that was, like, a lot of this. And I don't think he had siblings, and I don't think he had. He didn't have kids. The best of my knowledge, he was divorced, but I don't know if he had kids.

[Dawson]

I don't think no note means impulsive.

[Adam Carolla]

Ace, does it mean impulsive?

[Dawson]

That means he maybe had a couple of those, and then he was like, all right, I'm just. I don't care. I'm doing it. You know, you make.

[Adam Carolla]

Dense, impulsive.

[Dawson]

Impulsivity is a part of the, you know, depression. I told you. I work with emerging veterans and players, and, you know, suicide prevention is a big, big thing with the teams. Like, you have to, like, make sure to reach out to everybody that, you know, that could go into a dark place. And sometimes you can't catch everyone.

[Dean Del Rey]

Right?

[Adam Carolla]

So, no. No means impulse.

[Dean Del Rey]

I think that makes sense.

[Adam Carolla]

He had a system.

[Dawson]

I've been in dark places, but an impulsive decision, you know, can end your whole thing. And people I've met, the stories of people who have survived, they say they regret it as soon as they jumped the bridge or shot and missed or hung themselves and somehow survived. It's happened. And people. Gate bridge jumpers, yeah, they always regret the moment that the decision is made.

[Adam Carolla]

I get that, but. And I've seen the DOC and a handful of guys that survive, but the Golden Gate bridge jumper versus the shoot themselves in the headers or hang themselves is possibly a Chemical thing, like when you jump off of something for that fleeting moment, you're not on safety anymore. Every fiber in your being wants to be back on the bridge, just like you. Just like you never forget to breathe, no matter how you get drunk, you pass out, you fall asleep, but you still. Your body goes, I went back on that bridge. So I don't know if it's that or that, but shooting is different.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

I think also that, like, I lost my mom a couple years ago, and it. You know, there's some waves of mad depression will hit you out of nowhere. Just. I mean.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I. Man, I've said a million times, they go, you know, the number one job or they commit suicide are cops. And I'm like, yeah, because I got a suicide machine on their hip.

[Dawson]

It's true, right?

[Adam Carolla]

And I go, if I had a gun strapped to me, I would have killed myself nine times before my 30th birthday. I would have never made it. I don't even know if that's possible. But if I had a gun strapped to me, yeah. Yeah, I think I would have killed myself by 23.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Dawson]

Opportunity.

[Dean Del Rey]

Because it's just there, those mad waves real quick, and you're like, oh, man. But, I mean, you know, it's. And also, though, hanging is not quick. You got to get it all set up.

[Dawson]

Pretty brave. I'll say that I was brave.

[Dean Del Rey]

You got it. You got a YouTube or whatever. Figure out how to do. I mean, it's. That is the brutalist way to go, I think.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I don't understand it. I've always said I don't understand it. In a world where most people can't change a spare tire, that they could rig that and that it would work, you know what I mean? Is kind of nuts. So I just had the thought of no note, and it made me a little bit sadder. But now I'm now not quite as sad, because you're right. It says impulse buy, which still makes me sad, but. All right, so I just want to run that past you guys, because I was just curious. Like, sadder. No note or long note?

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. I don't know. You put a note out, and then maybe in your mind, you're like, now I'm bringing them into this darkness where if they go and there's no note, maybe you can just kind of cruise, you know, like, okay, here's a third note.

[Adam Carolla]

Sadness, possibility. My mom died of natural causes, but she did write me a note and my sister a note which was a page long, but she combined Me and my sister on one page.

[Dean Del Rey]

So you both read it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

Like, I liked you more.

[Adam Carolla]

I was like, I remember when you got your period. And I was like, okay, that wasn't for me.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying. You know, it's interesting.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, she had all the time in the world. She was just in bed. You know, they could have. Could have got two separate notes. You know what I mean?

[Dean Del Rey]

Like, fuck it, I'm old. One note. You know, it's weird because I'm trying to figure out how to talk about my mom on stage right now, you know? And, boy, is it a.

[Adam Carolla]

Don't do it.

[Dean Del Rey]

It's tough, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Don't do it.

[Dean Del Rey]

I know.

[Adam Carolla]

I got a thousand good sad mom jokes, and all the audience does is go.

[Dawson]

I love it, though. Hit me with another one.

[Dean Del Rey]

I got one.

[Adam Carolla]

Hit me. Let's do a little back and forth dueling a sad mom joke.

[Dean Del Rey]

This is my first one. So she passed away, and I'm in her house, and I'm cleaning it up, and I come across her wallet, and there's money in there. And I'm like, well, she's not gonna really need this anymore, right? So that's the intro to the joke. And then I try to do other ones, and it's like, no, we gave you.

[Dawson]

You know, they're sensitive.

[Adam Carolla]

I got, like, five of them.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you have a second one?

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. No.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, I'll hit one.

[Dean Del Rey]

Go, go.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll hit one. Okay, this one gets a laugh because my mom's not dead yet. I said I like Covid because I didn't like visiting my mom, and my mom's old and she votes blue, and she's a hypochondriac. So even though she's in the neighborhood, I told her, I can't come visit you because I love you too much. And I was this close to convincing her that Covid could be spread over the phone.

[Dean Del Rey]

That's a pretty good one.

[Adam Carolla]

And then I go, but she died on me. And everyone goes, all right, Dean, your turn. I'll give you a piece of paper if you want to jot down a note.

[Dean Del Rey]

No, no, no.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Dean Del Rey]

So as I was cleaning up her house, I realized I had to sell her PT Cruiser.

[Adam Carolla]

Was it purple?

[Dawson]

It's like a gauge.

[Dean Del Rey]

It was dark blue. It was almost the purple one.

[Adam Carolla]

Ah, Jesus.

[Dean Del Rey]

She wanted the purple, but they didn't have it. I know. And so I had to, you know, drive it to the mechanics to get a smog. And I just said, I can't drive this. So I just sold it with no smog for a thousand less because I didn't want to be seen in that.

[Adam Carolla]

It's so. It's the worst. Oh, okay, here's another one. Yeah, this is true. My mom died, and, like, three weeks went by. My family's untraditional. Like, we don't have funerals, and we don't do tombstones or mausoleums. I don't know. She's gone, but I don't know where she is or what happened. There's no burial ceremony, coffin, urn, nothing. So I said to my stepdad, I go, what happened to Mom? Like, where is she? And he said, oh, she donated her body to UCLA Medical. And I said, what were they studying? Moms had never loved their sons. And the audience goes, all right, your turn.

[Dawson]

I'm out.

[Dean Del Rey]

I'm out for now, man.

[Adam Carolla]

Because it's like, I'll give you two more because I can't do them on stage. They don't like it.

[Dean Del Rey]

All right, first of all, how long has it been since your mom passed?

[Adam Carolla]

Jesus. Two and a half years.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, so I'm right there, too. But it's still, like, you know, I put my mom at the end of the special, and so we're editing the special for, like, three weeks, and every time I saw her, I'd just be like, oh, yeah. Like, it was brutal. You know, it's still there, you know, And I realized she's not gonna see this special. And then. And then I thought, the YouTube commenters are like, thank God. It would have killed her. You know, the 80s.

[Adam Carolla]

I can rest in peace because I got a special coming out in a few weeks, and even if my mom was alive, she wouldn't have seen it. Yeah, she wasn't a fan.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh. But, well, yeah, I'm sure once you went full red on her. God damn it, Mom. No, she.

[Adam Carolla]

She was a fan when I was a kid, but I, I. I did another one where I was with Dennis Prager, and we're doing some bits. Conservative radio guy, and he knows my mom. Not a fan of mine. And we're in front of a crowd in Arizona, and he said, you know, when I wrote my first book, and he was, like, 20, and they put a big cardboard cut out of him for the signing, full size, you know, and he said, my mom got that cardboard cutout. She took it home, she put it right in the entry hall so it could be a big picture of me in the entry hall of her home. And then he laughed and he says, your mom ever put a big picture of you in her house? And I said, my mom doesn't have a picture of me in her head. And then the audience goes, oh, you.

[Dean Del Rey]

Know what I was thinking of? That is like that Clint Eastwood, you know, Magnum Force when they're shooting the targets. Your mom used yours as a target.

[Adam Carolla]

Brought it down to the range.

[Dean Del Rey]

You just.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, she. Well, if she ever fired a gun, I said, the other one doesn't work either. My mom is. I wouldn't call her a helicopter pilot. Like, she didn't really pay attention to us or hover around too much. She wasn't a helicopter pilot. Unless you're talking about the last one out of Saigon. Then everyone just goes, oh. And I go, all right, fuck it. I'm not going to do that anymore.

[Dean Del Rey]

It's tough, man. You know, Stanhope opened his special with 10 minutes about his mom dying of cancer. And you're going like, oh, my God, this is dark as. And then it has this giant payoff. And you're like, that could be the best. You know, He's a dark joke of all time because it's really a credit card fraud joke at the end, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, because he's like, yeah, it turns out my mom bought seven plasma screens from good guys and a couple, you know, whatever. He's saying that, but, you know, your.

[Adam Carolla]

Mom had a PT Cruiser.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That suggests something.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm not sure what.

[Dean Del Rey]

My mom had bad car taste, which was weird because she had good taste in music and art, but her cars were awful.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, a PT Cruiser is a cool car if you're nine.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But not as an adult.

[Dean Del Rey]

Well, she had the PT Cruiser, and then she had that Scion X. Looks like the lunchbox.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Dean Del Rey]

The square. But that was her last car.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Dean Del Rey]

Was. Was the last car.

[Dawson]

She, like, kitschy, cartoonish.

[Dean Del Rey]

It was weird because it looked like a toaster.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dawson]

Yeah, I know.

[Dean Del Rey]

And, you know, I drove that around for a couple weeks around Florida, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

And you're just. You're kind of like, this thing is weird. And it was just loaded with dog hair, you know?

[Dawson]

That's gerbil hair. Isn't it all gerbils that drive that car.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, the commercial.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm. I'm always curious, like, when Pontiac came out with the Aztec minivan and people, like, bought it new, I'm like, plymouth Prowlers.

[Dean Del Rey]

The one that. The Prowlers are worse. There's some Prowlers around my mom's Retirement community. The guy gets in. I'm like, yeah, I got a hot rod.

[Dawson]

I'm on the prowl.

[Adam Carolla]

It's the dorkiest. But it just goes to show, there's a lid for every pot. Yep.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. My mom was the best, man. Everything but her car choice.

[Adam Carolla]

Really.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. I love this woman. I miss. So bad.

[Adam Carolla]

I feel bad.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, it was brutal. Brutal, man. It's just. I was on tour and I got a call from the neighbor. Your mom had a small heart attack. And I was like, oh, I just got on a midnight flight. I was in San Diego. Headline. And I flew out there and I was there six weeks and lost her. It was, I love your mom.

[Dawson]

Get better from COVID right now. I love you, mom.

[Dean Del Rey]

It's just awful.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I don't miss my mom at all.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, well, I don't miss my dad.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, okay.

[Dean Del Rey]

I don't miss my dad at all. So, you know, there's always one. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I can maybe have two, but. All right. Should we take a break? Should we do some news? Hang around, Dean?

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, all right.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Dean Del Rey]

I travel. I've been all over America this year. It's fucking hostile out there.

[Adam Carolla]

There.

[Dean Del Rey]

I told this one guy I was from California. He's like, ah, you libertard. Just out there sucking each other's dicks. And I'm like, yeah, in the sunshine.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Dean Del Re is on the Adam.

[Adam Carolla]

Corolla Show Dean special as we speak. 5836 on YouTube. First special. So check that out. And it's free. What's the length of it?

[Dean Del Rey]

40 minutes.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, good. Bite size perfect. Produced by Bill Burr. And how's Bill doing? Bill's out on Broadway now.

[Dean Del Rey]

I'll tell you what, man, I just was there a week doing press for the special and went and saw him do Glengarry Glen Ross. He's doing the role of Moss. And I actually kind of teared up in the crowd. Cause I'm there's my fucking guy and he's doing Broadway. It is nuts to see it, you know, with Culkin and Bob Obenkirk and The dude Michael McKean. Lenny from Lenny.

[Adam Carolla]

Michael McKean. Yeah. Yeah. He probably like Spinal Tap better.

[Dean Del Rey]

Right, right.

[Adam Carolla]

As a reference. But go ahead.

[Dean Del Rey]

Well, you know what's weird was I was backstage talking to these guys and I had no idea that he was the Spinal. And they got the new one coming out and I was thinking like, fuck, you know, because he didn't have the wig on or nothing. You know what I mean?

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Dean Del Rey]

You know, I mean, he looks way different than. I haven't seen the guy in years. Except for a wig. Or is it Lenny, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Lenny and Squiggy. All right, you got news.

[Dawson]

Got some news. First up, embattled New York Attorney General Letitia James ducked reporters outside her Brooklyn home Wednesday, refusing to answer questions about her simmering mortgage fraud scandal.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, this is a problem for her because she brought the same charges against Trump and then kept saying no one is above the law and they're kind of chicken shit charges with Trump. But if you keep saying no one's above the law and you do the exact same ones against Trump now, you're fucked. Yeah, that's the problem.

[Dawson]

She allegedly falsified records against sweetheart home loans for Virginia property she claimed as her principal residence while she was still serving in New York as a state prosecutor. So she, like, moved some stuff around. I don't know. I think that what you said at the top of the show, how once the system's in place, people immediately start grifting.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, you have to. You have to really figure out, like, what is a grift? You know what I mean? Where they go, these confetti cats, they got to pay the fair share. It's like, I pay millions of dollars in taxes, so I'm looking for ways to pay less in taxes, but I still pay millions of dollars in taxes. But, yes, I. I leased my car and I called it a company car so I could write off the mileage. But am I driving it to work and back only no. Sometimes I go out to eat in it. And yes, sometimes I go out to eat, and I'm with Kimmel, but we don't talk about business. But I still claim it as a business. But is it a grift when you're trying to keep more of your money? I would argue it's a grift. If I'm trying to take your money, if I'm just trying to keep a slightly higher percentage of my own money, then it's not. And this is all anyone does all day, every day. And it's a system that is set up that attracts that. And as we've learned, nobody has the moral fortitude to completely look past the grift. I mean, they do this thing where they go. I remember coming up, they were like. My accountant was like, If Jimmy puts 50 grand into your kid's college fund, he can do it tax free. And then you could put 50 grand into his kid's college fund, and that would be tax free, or like, whatever it was. And I go, was that legal? And they go, yeah. And I go, okay, then do it. You know what I mean? Because I'm already fucking paying enough. Like, this thing. We're all caught in some weird malaise of, like, what kind of grift, everyone? If you didn't get a couple of points shaved from your mortgage or loan, or a little better deal, or you say this, you call your office your fucking room that you watch you porn in and eat pastrami sandwiches while watching you porn while beating off. That's my work office, dude. I got to write off that futon. This is all we do. Yeah. Which is fine. But when you then accuse other people of doing it, be prepared.

[Dawson]

Yeah. So she's jammed up. Yeah. It could lead to criminal charges.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, because nobody who is successful doesn't have instances of this somewhere sometimes, and oftentimes they're unaware of it because they have accountants that are doing stuff, claiming stuff, filling out the paperwork, so on and so forth. But she said no one was above the law, so now she's fucked.

[Dawson]

Yeah, no plausible dance.

[Adam Carolla]

Don't fucking throw the book at her because that was her plan.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And I agree with everything you said. The other thing about this situation is this is the perfect example of accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty of.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, there's a lot of that going on these days. So good. Throw the book at. Well, she could throw the book at herself. Self inflicted book.

[Dawson]

All right. Liberal outlets say that dogs are actually bad for the environment. Mother Jones posts Guardian report about dogs being environmental villains.

[Adam Carolla]

We don't, you know, we focus a lot on cows farting, but we leave Saint Bernards out of the mix. I would say dogs do their fair share. Blasting off too.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, those big fuckers, man. Like in New York, there's people that have the big Saint Bernards and those Great Danes and everything. Yeah, yeah, those things are farting.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, look, how could it not? We, we take animals, we slaughter them, we feed them to these guys. They go outside, they take a dump, they come back inside, they fart. Of course.

[Dean Del Rey]

By the way, don't forget the plastic bag.

[Adam Carolla]

Everything is bad for the environment.

[Dean Del Rey]

Microplastic.

[Adam Carolla]

All of us are bad for the environment.

[Dean Del Rey]

The whole. Yeah, every human is bad.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Everything is bad for the environment. Yeah, Everything we do, everything we want. Every bit of air conditioning, every bit of transportation. The bitches who just went on in orbit a week ago, all bad for the environment. The costumes that were made, bad for the environment. Tires, the fucking Gatorade they drank on the way up was bad for them. Everything's bad for the environment.

[Dean Del Rey]

Everything.

[Dawson]

This study was not so much about the farts as so much as the dogs. Decimating penguin populations in Tasmania. Any kind of flea or tick medicine against penguin population. Yeah, this is an Australian review, showed that they destroyed the island of Tasmania. The penguin population decreased. They also, they kill.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm gonna go out and say this.

[Dawson]

Invertebrates. Because of the flea and tick medication.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm going to wash them to the water. All right? Yeah, we love koala bears, we love panda bears and we love penguins, but we don't need them. We don't need them. I love them. We don't need them. They're kind of like hot chicks. You love them, but you don't really need them.

[Dean Del Rey]

I need them. You think you need them.

[Adam Carolla]

When's the last time a penguin fucking helped you out?

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, man, just looking at them, man, they're like, I'll show you a picture.

[Adam Carolla]

Of a penguin and you'll be fine. We don't need them anymore.

[Dean Del Rey]

When you see them, though, they're like, you know, instead of taking antidepressants, you're like, oh, fuck.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but we got enough high, we got enough footage of penguins to keep you off. Keep you off the pharmaceuticals. I'm just saying we don't need.

[Dean Del Rey]

Well, I'd rather have them than those fucking Australian snakes. You know, they got like 13 of the most deadly snakes out.

[Adam Carolla]

But someone. Someone who knew more. Yeah, like someone who knew what they were talking about would say, without those snakes, the rat population would be out of control. But no one says without penguins. Without penguins. We'd be missing a couple of premises for. For mov movies. That's about it. They're just premises for movies that come along every six years.

[Dawson]

Cuteness.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, they're apex. Cuteness. Pandas we don't need. Koalas may do something. Pandas just sit.

[Dean Del Rey]

Pandas are the best, but they don't do anything. Yeah, well, they, you know, when you see a panda, they're super rare. There's not enough for them to be damaging anything. There's no.

[Adam Carolla]

I would argue it's not enough for them to be doing anything either.

[Dean Del Rey]

There's like 20 pandas in the world.

[Adam Carolla]

Dogs do some good, though. They. You may not like them, but they. They sniff out. They're getting. They're gonna sniff out cancer and stuff like that now. You know, cop military dogs, you know, sniffing out landmines and stuff like that. They do something.

[Dean Del Rey]

I love dogs. Yeah, but have them.

[Dawson]

They also point out in the study that the canines carbon footprint is as big as the land mass of the United Kingdom because so many facilities are involved with making dog food, dog chow, and dog products that it's just a big tax on the environment.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, but here's what I want to say to all these people with the environment. Whether you're going after cows or dogs, you know, steak and ribs dogs, Man's best friend or V8s. You got to pick shit we don't like. Yeah, you picking shit we do like. Good luck with the ribs in the V8.

[Dean Del Rey]

No way. No way.

[Adam Carolla]

We like it.

[Dawson]

We showed up because of the backlash.

[Adam Carolla]

I like my dog. I like my dog. Do I like ribs or like American muscle? Like. Well, I don't know. It's a toss up. You got to pick like homework.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Or, you know. Yeah, you got AIDS or something. You got to pick something.

[Dean Del Rey]

I don't like, yeah, that rocket that went to sky, you know, last week. Get rid of that.

[Adam Carolla]

Pick up something I'm not into.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, right, yeah. You're not going to be around.

[Adam Carolla]

You're not going to sell this on America. We're too into it.

[Dean Del Rey]

They constantly just finding something so they can have their own comfort. They're like, the AC could be, you know, illegal. And they're like, get rid of the dog. He's like, what? Yeah, fuck you.

[Dawson]

Here's a quote. Is there any enjoyable part of life these insufferable killjoys won't attack? Said the Young Turks host, Anna Kasparian.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, she's right. They can't go after the good stuff. Go after shit we don't really care about. Like, you know, this is. Does he say it's from Australia?

[Dawson]

Yeah, yeah, that was the study.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. I've tried Vegemite. It fucking sucks ass.

[Dean Del Rey]

Tastes like a, you know, you know when you put an old copper penny in your.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dawson]

Oh, that's not a sandwich. This is a sandwich.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, go after big Vegemite. Let's talk about their footprint, their factory. Factory. Shut it down. Shut it down.

[Dean Del Rey]

Spewing out just pollution gases.

[Adam Carolla]

The footprint, the carbon. Get rid of it. Get rid of big Vegemite. Don't eat it. Don't want it. Doesn't impact me.

[Dean Del Rey]

Disgusting.

[Adam Carolla]

I will give you guys Vegemite and penguin.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Cover those penguins with Vegemite.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, my God. I did a guy's podcast once where you tried Vegemite, you know, like the hot wings dudes.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

And then I just took one bite and I go, yeah, the podcast is over.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Bingo.

[Dean Del Rey]

There's nothing to talk about here. This is just garbage.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I worked with a guy named Frazier. I did earthquake rehab with an Australian guy named Frazier in Koreatown, like in the late 80s, and he drove a VW micro van everywhere. And he's just a man. Like, he sailed on ships. He's from Australia. He just traveled around and picked up jobs. And he was funny and he liked me. And he had a crazy sense of humor because he's Australian. And he would have lunch in his minivan and he just opened the camper van, slide the door open, sip the little fold out table there, and he's like, you gotta try vegetables. I was like, all right, I'll try anything. And he smeared some on a cracker and I just. What the is it?

[Dawson]

Oh, I never.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, listen, whenever you use the word yeast and fermentation.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Unless we're talking about Beer. I'm out. Like, it's like fermented yeast paste or something.

[Dean Del Rey]

It's gross. I mean, it's absolutely gross.

[Dawson]

You make toilet wine out.

[Dean Del Rey]

Never tried it till a year ago. And, you know, that song was huge. And they. I have a Vegemite sandwich. I never knew what the it was. And then this guy had the podcast where you try it.

[Adam Carolla]

It's made of brewer's yeast. Brewer yeast is ipac, man. If anyone's ever tasted brewer's yeast, it'll make you gag.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Actually, technically, it's leftover brewers yeast. Leftover brewer sewage.

[Adam Carolla]

Spent brewers yeast. Yeah. They didn't want to throw it in the river, so they sold it to drunk people.

[Dean Del Rey]

Australians. Ay, my good. I.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, what else?

[Dawson]

Oh, man, I got some sad news, but first we'll get to. Pastor wrote a.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I think I get.

[Dawson]

Get onto it. Yeah, we need to. We need to do them right now.

[Adam Carolla]

We do formers here, so that's why.

[Dawson]

Yeah. DJ Jed the fish spent nearly 35 years. Iconic radio station K Rock.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dawson]

Rest in peace at 69.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. He was an icon, man.

[Dawson]

He really is, man. I'm, like, shook by this right now. The.

[Adam Carolla]

It hurts.

[Dawson]

The.

[Dean Del Rey]

Everything's done, like. Like. And, you know, between the roundup and the food and fucking, you know, whatever they're putting in the cigarettes now. He had lung cancer, but people are just, you know, two days ago, who was it died at 73? Oh, the original Judas Priest drummer. 73.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Dean Del Rey]

That's just fucking nuts, man. People are just dropping. There's no 85 anymore.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

You know, you don't. You're not gonna hear it.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I don't want to say anything good came out of this, but between Nikki Katz and Jed the Fish, two of my friends dying in, like, three and a half days.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I was able to use it to my advantage for once.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, no.

[Adam Carolla]

No one ever feels sorry for me. But I had my girlfriend last night going, what are you being such a dick for? And I just go, I had two friends die in three days. She went, okay, I'm sorry.

[Dawson]

Well played.

[Adam Carolla]

And I thought it's the only time I've ever been able to play a car because everyone just thinks I'm a dick and no one cares all the time. There's nothing I can play. But you got two guys, two friends drop in three and a half days. You can play that card.

[Dean Del Rey]

I like. He's got the devo hat there, the helmet.

[Dawson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

And the blue.

[Dawson]

It's the blue version.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Jed was a character. He was a staple. K rock was huge. He was there when I got to K rock. He was funny. It was funny. He has this beautiful big Victorian home in Pasadena, California. Crazy old 20s, colorful. I saw it part of the obituary and I went there when I was. Cause I love homes, you know.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And this is beautiful. I mean, you probably find a picture of Jed's home, but, you know, real Pasadena old school Victorian style, done to the nines.

[Dawson]

Beautiful.

[Adam Carolla]

And I had a great afternoon with him. Like, I went. He knew I was a carpenter when I started off at kroq. He invited me over one day and I just sat with him in his living room. We just talked and laughed and talked. And he was kind of showing me around and showing me his plans. It's kind of nice, people with their homes. When they're really into it, it's kind of intimate. Cause they walk you through it and they go, here's what I did. And then they go, here's what I'm gonna do. What do you think? And I'm thinking about doing a studio in the back. I can record my studio. And he was just a funny, quirky guy with an infectious laugh. And he had a great personality. It was kind of perfect for K rock, you know, he wouldn't have been hired by it. Like a top 20 station.

[Dean Del Rey]

He looks like David Lee Roth right there. Isn't that weird? Like a side view, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he, he. He's good looking with a different kind of look. And it's just a cool dude. Very untraditional radio. Like.

[Dawson]

Like a cool nerd personality on the air.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He was the very first unassuming presence on radio that I had ever heard.

[Dean Del Rey]

Did he retire eventually?

[Adam Carolla]

I think he moved over to Sirius xm. And then I think his health got the better of him. But there used to be guys that really were in love with their voice, you know, and they had these radio voices and they kept it up. He didn't have that pretense. He was just this funny, quirky, weird guy was endearing. Yeah. And then, and then KROC became the home for, for the quirky, weird guys. They didn't want guys that had traditional radio. That was your dad's radio station, you.

[Dawson]

Know, K5 sort of set it off into that area. In 1978, he, like got into the struggling FM station Kroc and 78. 78.

[Dean Del Rey]

That's why.

[Dawson]

Yeah. And then he. He was breaking punk bands and alternative new wave, you know, he ushered in that era back then.

[Dean Del Rey]

And yeah, Like X probably is probably playing X. He's probably playing like Dead Kennedys and Duran Ye. And then it gets into that. Yeah, the new wave, because they go full tilt new wave.

[Dawson]

You know, he really. Yeah, he really was a big part of the culture in Los Angeles.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was back in a time where you could be on a radio station and people knew who you were and you hear it coming out of people's car windows because they drove with their windows down because SoCal's hot outside and have air conditioning in, in the PT Cruiser. And so they had the windows down and it was like a scene, man.

[Dean Del Rey]

I mean DJs were huge back then, you know. Huge.

[Adam Carolla]

We would do a calendar signing every year at KROC and like Best Buy parking lot and Costa mesa or something. 2000 people would show up and wait in line for like nine hours, like just to get their calendar sign. I met the fish.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, we had a dude. You can't even believe it. Oh God, look at that.

[Adam Carolla]

I knew you'd love his. That's his house. House.

[Dean Del Rey]

See, I play the lottery each week just so I can completely check out a life into something like that patio with my dog Gertie and you know, just chilling there and then big garage in the back with some, you know, 9 11s and just, just staying in your. Your domain.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you got your Lufta cult hat on. Yeah, I've had my car there a few times.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. This weekend, the air in Washington.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, where is it?

[Dean Del Rey]

It's in like Costa Mesa or something.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, is it this weekend?

[Dean Del Rey]

Sorry, Next weekend? This weekend? No, I'm in Austin tomorrow, but next weekend. Saturday. Yeah, you want to go?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

Fuck yeah. Hit me up.

[Adam Carolla]

Then there's a picture of my 9:35 there in. When they did it in Universal Studios back loud.

[Dean Del Rey]

That's the best. They just did that 10 year anniversary and they had it there a six ago again. There's nothing better than that.

[Adam Carolla]

You just walk around and look at vintage Porsches. Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

And you're on the back lot of like Chicago and then, oh, here's Jaws.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, they did it at a lumber yard in like Culver City or something.

[Dean Del Rey]

Went to all those.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you went to all, all of them?

[Dean Del Rey]

Yep. And then by the time they got to number, I think it was like six or whatever. They did the Universal and then they did it six months ago for the 10 year. But when they did it at Universal, I was like, this is the greatest, greatest car show I've ever been to.

[Adam Carolla]

Huh?

[Dean Del Rey]

Because I love that old Hollywood backlot there's the Psycho house. Yeah. You know 911T?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I think that's my car in the back lot of. You know.

[Dean Del Rey]

Oh, there it is right there. When you walk in, that was the. Yeah, you had the. You had the crown jewel parking spot. That's right. When you first walk in.

[Dawson]

Forgive my ignorance. What's this?

[Adam Carolla]

How do you pronounce it? Luft is like air, right?

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Loose balloons.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, it's air. It's the celebration of air cooled. 911 or Porsches. Not just 911. 356s and all that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

And they get this entire Universal Studios backlot on a Saturday and they put all these cars there.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, they put it. Different locations.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Yeah.

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah. So the new one they just dropped is going to be in North Carolina in October. October, cool. Durham.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, but they're doing one two Saturdays from now, right?

[Dean Del Rey]

Yeah, but that's called Air and Water. So they do two a year now. So one's Air and Water and one's only Air.

[Adam Carolla]

I do the oil and vinegar for the Italian guys once a year. We do it at the old Spaghetti Factory in Pasadena. That's a smaller crew.

[Dean Del Rey]

Smaller.

[Adam Carolla]

A lot of PT Cruisers out in the parking lot. All right, well, let's make a date for that because.

[Dean Del Rey]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

I've been to a couple, but it's been a minute.

[Dean Del Rey]

God, I love it.

[Adam Carolla]

Dean Del Rey special out as we speak. 5836 on YouTube.

[Dean Del Rey]

Shot in a cave in the middle of Tennessee.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, really cool looking. I was watching it and Funny. Titus Welliver. You know that name. He'll be in studio right after this. Rough Greens. Sometimes in life, you want to get the truth, you got to take a look at the numbers. Naturopathic Dr. Dennis Black, the charade of Rough Greens. Well, he tells us that unfortunately, 50% of all dogs over 10 years of age will die of cancer. And Dr. Dennis knows what he's talking about. He's put his life's blood into this product and is passionate about it. I've talked to him about it more than once. So it's attributed basically to your dog's diet. Your dog doesn't have a good diet, and that's where Rough Greens comes in. But there's good news. There's thousands of testimonials and five star reviews every month. Ruffgreens is now the number one all natural dog supplement in America. And you don't have to change your dog's food to improve your dog's health. You just sprinkle rough greens on the existing food. I do that with Phil. You just add a scoop and that makes your dog. You'll notice your dog's healthier, more energy, it's better coat. It is rough greens, right? Dawson, Fetch a free Jumpstart trial bag.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

For your dog today. Go to ruffgreens.com just use promo code Adam that's R u f f greens.com and use promo code Adam and just cover shipping. You don't have to change your dog's food to improve your dog's health. Just add a scoop of rough greens.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Jason Mayhem Miller]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Jason Mayhem Miller]

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[Dean Del Rey]

Just text them you left your phone here.

[Adam Carolla]

How about this? How about next time I see you, I go, jay, you butt dial me all the time. You don't even know it. I hear you. You just butt down me. And I've heard you talk a couple of times. Or my name come up a couple of talks a couple of times. If you immediately go, oh, you know, I'm just fucking fucking around, you know, then I know you're talking shit that.

[Dean Del Rey]

Wouldn'T even move my needle whatsoever.

[Adam Carolla]

Most people, you just hear me talking.

[Dean Del Rey]

To my dogs as Ray Liotta. That was all the money we had, Karen.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Subscribe to Beat it out on [e-mail] substack now back to the Adam Corolla show.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, Titus Welliver, actor, is in studio. Third and final season of Bosch Legacy is out as we speak. Oh, wait a minute. Screw that up. Yes, 10 episodes. I got that right?

[Titus Welliver]

You got that right. The final two come out tomorrow.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, and that's on Amazon?

[Titus Welliver]

Yes, sir.

[Adam Carolla]

So Titus has done a lot of different stuff over the years, I guess. Started mainly known for theatrical. Right. Like the Town and Argo Shaft and stuff like that. And then more into television, right?

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, I mean, TV was sort of the cornerstone of sort of moving me forward. I started working with Steven Bochko and David Milch and doing NYPD Blue, and then we did Brooklyn south and then Deadwood, and then that sort of moved me over and was doing Sons of Anarchy and all these other shows. The Good Wife and of course, Lost, which is now getting another. Has had a resurgence of fandom with it being re released on Netflix.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, so are they gonna reboot that?

[Titus Welliver]

No, they're not rebooting it. They're just. They're grabbing up shows, so suits, you know, which was already a big hit when Netflix picked it back up. Now it's, you know, they've rerun the whole original series and now they're doing a new one.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I mean, I always say my kids who are 18 now, they love the Office, they love Friends, they love all the stuff from before they're born. But then we had I love Luc and all that stuff. So it's a cyclical Thing. And why shouldn't it be that way? And there used to be probably a chasm because there was black and white and there was color. So when we grow up, it's like, oh, that's black and white. So that we know that's our dad's old show. But Friends just looks like Friends, just like any sitcom that's done yesterday. Right.

[Titus Welliver]

Well, it's the whole. So. But think about it. When we were kids, we watched the Little Rascals and the Three Stooges and the Honeymooners. You know, all that stuff came back, and it still holds up to this day. I mean, there's certainly some questionable stuff, perhaps, in the Little Rascals for people, but, you know, we're used to that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. And I think the Bible has some sort of quote that says, he was a decent man of his time. They're smart because they go. Cause now we think he's a douche.

[Titus Welliver]

Right, right, right.

[Adam Carolla]

Or he's created too many microaggressions or he's gonna get me too'd. But they were smart. They were, like, of his time. I feel like I want that next to my name. Like, Adam was a good dude of his time.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, leave him alone.

[Adam Carolla]

Leave him alone is what we're saying.

[Titus Welliver]

He's done no harm.

[Adam Carolla]

So you have a very interesting background, and there's a lot of crazy trauma in your life as well, right?

[Titus Welliver]

Yes. Lost.

[Adam Carolla]

Lost siblings.

[Titus Welliver]

And my late wife, too, as well. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, I don't know. I was talking at the beginning of the show that I lost two friends in, like, three days or something, and they weren't old, and there's a party that goes, oh, man, doesn't that make you think about your own. Whatever. And then there's another part that's like going out to dinner with Dr. Drew tonight, and I'm just gonna enjoy myself. And. And maybe it's a blessing that we're not cursed with this constant. Saddled with this. It could have been me. Or when is my time coming up? I don't know how you. But I've never lost a sibling young or a wife or any of that.

[Titus Welliver]

Well, I think. Look, there's no handbook for grief. Right? You just process it. You have to learn to live with it, and it creates a void in your heart. I lost an infant sister and my older brother, and my younger brother and my late wife passed away from cancer very, very young. So nothing, no matter what, nothing prepares you for any of that stuff. But it's just really how you Process and learn how to have to stay engaged in life. Right. No matter where it puts you emotionally in the absolute bottom of the barrel. But you find a way. And eventually in that healing process, then. And as they say, without being cliche, then you focus more on the good memories and it's less of being morose and just sort of being stuck in that place of the loss.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I was thinking about the other day and I realized that you have memories of people, and as long as you have memories of them, then they're alive. Because they're alive in your head, because you have those memories. And if you really break it down, it's not like you see your sister or your friend. You don't see him every day. You might see them pretty sparingly, but you have these thoughts and these memories and you kind of reenact them in your head. And so it's like Jed the fish from Kroc. Good dude. I didn't hang out with Jed the Fish. I have a lot of memories of him and, like, good memories. And if he was still alive and living in Pasadena, I would still have those memories.

[Titus Welliver]

Right? Of course.

[Adam Carolla]

And so he is in my head. I see a younger version of him, us in a different surrounding, and we're laughing. So he's alive.

[Titus Welliver]

There is a kind of eternal thing and certainly in the nature of what we do. Right. You know that as performers, that stuff you kind of live off.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Like Chris Farley's alive. Really. Sort of, practically, because every time you turn the TV on, there's just him being Chris Farley, you know.

[Titus Welliver]

Right. And then all.

[Adam Carolla]

And Frank Sinatra, too, I guess that.

[Titus Welliver]

Stays, you know, forever, and it's being rediscovered and it offers us some form of comfort despite the fact. But we are of a certain age now where you start to. Particularly in music, you know, it seems like every other week, you know, they come in always in threes and fours. It'll be this drummer has passed away and this guitar player and this lead singer. And, you know, you start to see those people that you consider to be kind of ageless because their music or their films have been such a part of your life.

[Adam Carolla]

It is interesting too, which is if you. You can kind of out kick your coverage with your lifespan, which is. My dad, who died recently, died at 93, and everyone he knew is already dead.

[Titus Welliver]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

So there's really nobody to go to the funeral.

[Titus Welliver]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, you die like James Dean. You get a pretty good crowd.

[Titus Welliver]

Right. I'm sorry for your loss, but 93 is a good run. My mom was 92, and I remember her saying, you know, I've had a really, really good, good life.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, you think about it, nobody goes on forever. I hate cliches, but I'm just saying, you got a window.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And the window's, you know, zero to 95, let's say, practically. And then some people get hit by street trolleys at 14, and that's as far as they made it. You know, once you make it into 72, you're playing with house of money, essentially. And you've done better than 99.7% of humanity that came before you, because everyone died, used to die in their 40s and stuff. So you're in some kind of rarefied air that most people don't get to. So you can't. I mean, it's kind of weird. I don't even grieve because I'm like, you did the best you could possibly do in the alive department.

[Titus Welliver]

Right. Well, and all, you know, so many of the great poets and sort of grand minds have such an interesting approach to talking about death and how you meet it and where it is. And I remember my father saying to me at one point, this is sort of. I was a young kid, he said, well, son, that's the price of admission. And I thought, well, thanks, dad. That makes me. That really comforts me.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, your dad, he had lost kids.

[Titus Welliver]

Lost children, outlived three of his children and one of his wives. And that's Shakespearean kind of stuff that is not supposed to happen.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I mean, outliving one kid is tragedy and two is unthinkable and three is like cursed or something. That's insane.

[Titus Welliver]

No. And he went through. And then he got to a point where he began to self medicate and it really devolved and to chronic alcoholism, which ultimately ended his life at 75. So it's all in how you. I think you navigate that. But it's not for me to judge that. I can't imagine. I have three children and three stepchildren. And so that idea for me is so completely. But when my first child was born, my eldest son, Eamon, right after he was born, the first phone call I made was to my father and he said, congratulations, I'm so excited. And I just said to him, I get it, I understand. And he said, I knew you would. And that was it.

[Adam Carolla]

Really.

[Titus Welliver]

And that was it.

[Adam Carolla]

So what were the circumstances with your siblings?

[Titus Welliver]

Well, my sister passed away from sids, or as they called it back then, crib death, which is Sudden Infant Death syndrome. And she was about four months old. My brother Eli, my younger brother, eight years younger, was a photojournalist. He'd been living on the Laos Cambodian border with the Montagnards. He was doing a photographic essay on sort of the aftermath of the Vietnam War, because Special Forces used the Montagnards and trained them. And he was killed by misadventure. He was in Chiang Mai, where he had an apartment. And what year was this? This was in 1991. And he went into. After working all day, went into a little bar near his apartment and was having a beer. And when he went into the restroom, these guys clocked him, thinking he might have money, and they dosed his beer with heroin. And he drank the beer and went into anaphylaxic shock and died. 21 years old.

[Adam Carolla]

Whoa.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah. And then my older brother.

[Adam Carolla]

How'd they ever get to the bottom of that?

[Titus Welliver]

Well, my father hired private detectives.

[Adam Carolla]

I was gonna say, it sounds like some outside force is getting involved.

[Titus Welliver]

It was really, really difficult because there's a tremendous amount of corruption in that government and with the law enforcement there in Thailand.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Thailand.

[Titus Welliver]

So it took forever. And I have to say there were about three different versions of stories, but the ultimate conclusion was that it was that it was a gang thing and really just tragic. And then my older brother Silas had a pre existing condition. He had a form of muscular dystrophy called myotonia. And his had manifested in his heart. And so at 45, his heart just gave out. And that being the biggest muscle and the one that keeps us alive, he passed away. So it's.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, you don't get much more range than that either. From the beginning to the mid-40s to the middle to that. Dosed with hallucinogens or whatever. That's crazy.

[Titus Welliver]

No. And I miss them every day, but I hold them deeply in my heart. And as you said. Right. There are things that remind us. I mean, I'll be driving along and thinking about them, and it's always this sort of odd thing that occurs. They'll come into my head, and all of a sudden, a piece of music will come on randomly on my phone that I'm playing through into my car. And it's connected directly to one of my brothers.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

Very strange. So I feel like. What is it Woody Allen said? I don't believe in an afterlife, although I'm bringing a change of underwear. I mean, some of those things, they happen all too often, and I don't think that they're. Coincidence.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I don't have. I was talking to someone about this the other day. I don't have strong opinions about the afterlife. There either be something or there'll be nothing. But either way, I'm kind of covered. Because if there's something, there's something. And then if there's nothing, well, then I'll just join the legion of greats who are experiencing nothing.

[Titus Welliver]

You will do your podcast in the clouds, brother, and that'll just be. And continue to do the work that you do.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you were talking about off the air. You said you're out in Topanga.

[Titus Welliver]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And Topanga is a canyon that they closed, and maybe it's reopened now.

[Titus Welliver]

No, it's still closed.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, it's still closed.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Fire or mudslides for fire.

[Titus Welliver]

But last year, it was months and months and months because of the mudslides. And then miraculously, one day, oh, Topanga's gonna be opened in a week. After saying it wasn't gonna be open, it had already been closed for months, and they were predicting another three or four months. And then, yes, the election cycle, somehow it magically reopened, but now it's closed.

[Adam Carolla]

So Topanga used to be funky, and now it's kind of cool. But it used to be where hippies and, like, Laurel Canyon was that way in the 60s and the 70s. It's where the rock bands and the artists and the hippies hung out. And at some point, things get gentrified and expensive and out go the cool folks, and in comes the suits. But Topanga, when I started construction, a lot of guys I worked with lived up in Topanga, and they were funky, and they had people called creeks. They lived in the creeks of Topangas.

[Titus Welliver]

They're still there.

[Adam Carolla]

Surfers and funky dudes all lived up there. And then stuff got expensive. My sister lives up there. But it's always a challenge because there's always a mudslide or fire or something like that. But the fire missed you guys. But not all of you guys, right?

[Titus Welliver]

No, a lot of, you know, came up. Tuna destroyed a lot of houses on Tuna Canyon and a lot of houses very close to ours and got really close to Topanga town. They kind of got it under control. Right by the lumber yard there.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Topanga lumber. Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

And it could have taken everything out.

[Adam Carolla]

You were spared. Your home was.

[Titus Welliver]

Our house was. We spent 10 days, you know, and closed up in a hotel, and there was no access. But I had a neighbor who stayed, who was part of the arson watch and everything. So he and I were. Were communicating Daily. And then I got up there and I have to say, when I was able to get back in and I went back several days before, I brought my whole family back in because they were not going to do it. They had the fire department and there were guys from all over the country. I mean, it wasn't just, you know, Marin county and then they had this whole, they have this whole firefighter program from the Department of Corrections.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

And these guys were up there working, clearing land, cutting fire trails and things like that. And they, you know, they did the best they possibly could and they saved a lot. They saved a lot. But potentially. And the Palisades was where my daughter went to high school and elementary school and that was. Many of our friends lived there and in Malibu. And you know, it's just tragic. It's devastating. And I was telling you that I've been watching you going out there and, and keeping people up to date in your commentary because I think that the grieving process of that is something that everyone is going to have to do individually. But it's good to see some movement going forward. But it's still very. You talk to one person, they say it's going to be a decade and then somebody else will say, well, no, I know a contractor who's already started, started three different projects in the Palisades. New builds there, but new builds on old land. On old land, yes.

[Adam Carolla]

That's been cleared.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, it's interesting to see human beings work like army ants in the sense that, you know, you see an anthill and then when you're a kid, you just knock it over with your foot and you see the ants run around and then you come back two days later and they're putting the anthill back together again. It's the same thing, just with language and heavy equipment and stuff, but it's just a whole army of ants lands and they're just trucks and skip loaders and everyone's just doing their thing. And it's also, there's something, I don't know why, but I find it interesting when there's 160 pound guy and he's operating a 7 ton vehicle and it's lifting 20 tons in the air and putting it in another. It's like these little, little ants inside these huge robots doing crazy feats.

[Titus Welliver]

Oh yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, what those machines are doing while there's a guy sitting inside of it. I mean, I don't want to sound like I just took mushrooms, but I mean, there's a, there's a human being sitting inside a giant robot. And the robot is doing its bidding.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that what it's capable of doing is incredible because. Because 30 human beings couldn't lift that slab of concrete, but 165 pound guy can in the robot.

[Titus Welliver]

But that sort of brings us back full circle because I remember the last time I was on the show, we ended up talking about those Time Life books. You remember, the ones about UFOs and things.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, the west. The Old West. Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

Apropos of what you're saying, we know that the aliens built those pyramids in Egypt and Angkor Wat and all the Mayan pyramids. Come on. There's no way that there wasn't some alien being down there with a front loader and a skitter.

[Adam Carolla]

It is. I mean, it is. I mean, human ingenuity is kind of insane.

[Titus Welliver]

It is.

[Adam Carolla]

And if you go to like I recently did a gig at a World War II airplane museum and you just look at all that stuff and there was no computers, there was no chips. Everything was mechanics. And you look at a ball turret gunner and stuff like that and you're like, wow, like crazy. It is crazy. And then you kind of go back and you see a Great Wall of China or pyramid or something like that. There's also a. I don't know why this popped in my head, but there's a bizarre pragmatism. Not bizarre, but there's a pragmatism that I enjoy in human beings. Like I was building an old Spanish house up on top of Lake Hollywood and I was going to a place in the San Fernando Valley to buy a large mature cactus to put as like a centerpiece and a courtyard. And I wanted one that was six, seven feet tall and mature. But of course it's got these 3 inch spines sticking out and everything. And I was driving to the place going, yeah, yeah, come pick it up, you know, And I was like, how would one transport a cactus? How are they going to do it? Because once I picked the cactus out they came. They can't hit it, they can't put their gloves on it. It's impossible. And they can't put a piece of machinery on it because it'll destroy it or break it. They use a 10 foot length of garden hose. Two guys like a sling and they just kind of tip it over and carry it. Like a sling with garden hose.

[Titus Welliver]

That's wild.

[Adam Carolla]

And I'm like, of course. Because a garden hose can do no damage to it. Strong as hell.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's two Dudes just carrying it like a stretcher on a piece of common garden hose. And I'm like, I would have never thought of that.

[Titus Welliver]

Well, they figured it out, but they figured it out.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's all we do as human beings is sort of figure things out. But the process of going down there and seeing how fast these guys work and how they utilize equipment, but a lot of the stuff is by hand too. And how, you know, they just. They have to transport the equipment there.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

They have to take everything out of that place. Like it is. It's interesting. It also gives you a little hope for humanity because when you turn on the news and see people burning cop cars and throwing things through plate glass windows and like looting a CVS and stuff like that, you go, what have we become?

[Titus Welliver]

For what?

[Adam Carolla]

What? For what? Like, what are we even doing here? And then you see the army of people rebuilding this place in a hurry. And everyone's competent. Like, I wonder, the dump truck guys doing something different than the skip loader guys doing something different than the traffic management guy. Everyone's doing something different. Like the army ants, you know, they're all. They all got their job. They're all doing it and it. And they go fast.

[Titus Welliver]

No, it's synchronistic. And that's, you know, having worked in the construction business a million years ago, that was sort of the reward, for lack of a better term, was to see, to go through that process. All the different guys, you know, the master carpenters and the guys who were the tin knockers and the guys who would come in and were pouring the concrete and doing the rebar, I mean, all that simultaneously. It is, it's. We're just ants. We're just big ants.

[Adam Carolla]

I have a thought which I think is super important. And then also not. It's valuable and we're not getting enough of it. It's sort of like, I don't know, people go, you don't get enough vitamin D because you gotta be outside more. And you have to get in the sunshine and you're inside and we're not getting enough of this new nutrient, which is finishing things. People are kind of sitting in cubicles and they're living their life in the middle. And when you see. And it's depressing and when you see a beginning, a middle and an end, and you do the beginning, middle and end part and you step back and you go, okay, I just framed that garage and it's done. Or I remember when I built that. It's still working today, or whatever. That thing is, there's a sense of satisfaction, and it also brings a kind of sanity with it.

[Titus Welliver]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

That the middle people, you know, the people that are just. You know, the people of LAX are doing TSA and always in a bad mood because they're just sitting there and they're like, id? Id? No, I don't need your boarding pass. I told you, I need your id, not your board. No liquids, like, all day, every day, one middle, right?

[Titus Welliver]

Correct.

[Adam Carolla]

Just no satisfaction. No. Stand back and sort of taking in what you've accomplished. By the way, it could be a play. It doesn't have to be an apartment building. It could be something. But what I'm saying is, I don't think we're getting enough exposure to that part. Those guys who work there, they have a kind of a. They're sort of grounded emotionally because they pull up on the. Those lots that are burnt out, and they go, we're gonna have this cleared in four days.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And they go, day one, I want to be. I want all the steel down day one, you know? And they go, day two, I want all the concrete out of here. And they're constantly. And then at some point, they step back, they look at it, it's cleared, they crack a beer, and they go, all right, let's do the next one.

[Titus Welliver]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

But they have a moment of. This is what it looks like now. This is what it looked like when I rolled up on here five days ago. And we're going to do the next one. But also, they're imbibed, imbued with this sense of, like, I know what this is. I know how to do it. Every one of these guys just shows up and goes, I know what we're doing here. And they do, and they do it. But there's a lot of people are just floating in the middle, and they never get that sense.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah. Well, it's not their investment. Right. Like you said, it's kind of like a mushroom existence.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

You're not getting enough D3. But you're sedentary. If you're sedentary like that, then how does that manifest in your human evolution?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, society has evolved into that. You standing at the airport, talking to people about taking liquids out of their backpack. Because. Because in the past, there was no airplane. There's no airport. There's no liquids you're traveling with. There's no conveyor belts. There's no anything. So it has evolved into that. And what I'm saying to those people is, you're gonna have to start Your own projects at home. Like, you're gonna have to get a potter's wheel or build a treehouse or you have to do something or anything. Cause it's not gonna be baked in anymore. There's no more barn raisings.

[Titus Welliver]

Another. No. Yeah. Well, think about those, too. I actually got to see several of those because my father lived in Maine.

[Adam Carolla]

Several barn raisings. Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

And those were really fascinating. Particularly, I remember as a very small boy, one time my grandfather took me. We were in Lancaster county in Pennsylvania, and he took me to this Amish country. Amish country. And I got to see them do that. And that was. You want to talk about ants? Sort of like the entire community came together. And, you know, they frame this whole thing out, and they put it together. It's post, you know, it's pegged.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

And then them pushing it up with poles. It was really fascinating. And you're a little kid, you're playing with Lego, so you have some kind of a sense of what's going on. But to behold, that was kind of magical.

[Adam Carolla]

Did he take you for that event?

[Titus Welliver]

Precisely for that. Because he was a construction guy. He was a master carpenter, and he was in construction.

[Adam Carolla]

Your grandfather.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah. And he just thought that would be something that would interest to me.

[Adam Carolla]

It's really interesting because there's ways you can put wood together, and the most basic way is just to butt it together and put a big screw in it. And then you could dowel it together, which is a little more advanced. But then you could do joinery, which is what they're doing.

[Titus Welliver]

Incredible stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

And the idea that you're building a whole barn with no timber bolts or lag bolts or carriage bolts. No nuts. No bolts, no steel.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah. And you can't blow those things down. I remember my father had a. Bought a parcel of land on the St. John's river, right on the Maine Canadian border, because he wanted. He painted sort of in the outback in an area called Allagash, Maine. And so he found these guys. He was gonna build a log cabin, Something very, very similar, simple. And they went in and they cut down the existing trees, and they constructed the cabin from that, everything. They milled it and did all the work there. And with the exception of the floorboards, there were no nails in that at all. It was all I can remember watching them creating the pegs with hatchets and things that put this thing together. It was wild. And, you know, they were milling, you know, literally taking these big. Cutting these pine boards, not even seizing nothing. No kiln or Anything like that and just slapping it together.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a kind of satisfying that people should experience. And they're kind of robbed of it because they're buying shit at Ikea and playing video Games and calling GrubHub, and they don't really understand what that is and how important it is. And they also try to avoid it. They're like, I don't want to do that shit. I'm like, you're avoiding something that's super important. And I've been noticing that too big a part of our populace has been avoiding that part of life. And it leads to thoughts that are impractical. They're not pragmatic, they're not linear. It's caused a lot, I think, when people go, like, what's going on out there in the world? And I go, way too many people staring at screens and not dealing with lumber physically or with anything.

[Titus Welliver]

With anything other than what's in the palm of their hand, right?

[Adam Carolla]

And then feeling like they have some sort of expertise when they don't have any form of expertise. Because what is an expertise? Like, okay, somebody said, says 20 minutes ago, someone brings up the subject of tariffs. All right? Every financial expert on this side said it's a bad idea. This side says, it's a great idea. Then they bring up examples of tariffs in the past. Then that gets shot down. Then someone says, yeah, but they're doing a tariff on us. And then they go, but here's why that's not gonna work. So is there such a thing as an expert on tariffs? And I would argue no, because I've heard 2,000 experts and they all have different opinions, but when it comes to barn raising, there's only one way. And you can be an expert.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, you can. But I think that also it's that whole part of us, the tactile experience of so many things that people take for granted. And now with this constant overload of information and. Or entertainment or kind of mindless entertainment that is removing that chip in us for interest in things beyond taking pictures of our food and posting it on social media. And that worries me. That really, really worries me. And so it sort of goes back to the thing of, like, when you have a conversation, you say, oh, we're going to watch this movie. Movie. It's Raging Bull. Oh, wait, you didn't say that this was black and white. Is this an old movie? Well, not really an old movie, but black and white. Then you have to just sort of. I don't have that with my kids because they've grown up watching films and they're cinephiles and I suppose to a certain degree I maybe forced that upon them, but thankfully it kind of connected. But look, we're all guilty to a certain degree of being slaves to the device. Right? But I tried to be very, very careful. But we are also of a generation where we didn't have any of those things. I mean, Pong didn't even come along until we were teenagers and we were still listening to vinyl and making mixtapes.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And I don't really think back and wax too poetic about those times, but it's probably good that we were living in that analog world and just sort of tasked with entertaining ourselves. I've always felt like consuming a lot. I mean I had this, I basically had this saying which is build your own museum. Don't walk through everyone else's museum. You want your own museum. Which is not to say you can't appreciate other people's museum. No, but sitting around yelling entertainment me over and over again is. It's not going to spark a lot of creativity in you. It's being satiated and quelled by this never ending stream of, of high end entertainment too. Like stuff is really well, well done.

[Titus Welliver]

It is, but it's, it's. There's a passivity on, on the viewer's part.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. You're, you're in the passenger seat. You're not really behind the wheel, which I don't if you're in the car at all.

[Titus Welliver]

Like, that's why I, I love shows like Main Cabin Masters. I gravitate towards those channels you're watching. People create things and you can change the channel. But yeah, the passivity is the thing that drives me kind of nuts.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I feel that way too. I feel bad for people that don't really have a passion or an interest or even having a skill is just nice, an expertise like feeling like you own some subject matter where you go, I know, I know what that is. And I think we're robbing people of that. You're talking about cinephile. My son's kind of that way. And I'm curious, what are some your favorite movies?

[Titus Welliver]

Well, I'm a big. Both my parents were cinephiles so we went to the movies every weekend. Be it to see a new film or we would go to see film festivals and things. So I grew up on a steady diet of Kurosawa and Capra and all those great films. And then of course being a kid of the 60s, that was the whole change the dynamic with films like Easy Rider and this sort of anti establishment, the French New Wave, we were really, really lucky and into the 70s. So I've got a group of friends that come up periodically and I'll either cook some food or we'll order some stuff in. And it's not like a book club. We call it movie club just as a. But we just watch films that we like. And sometimes I'll try to pull out something really obscure, knowing that probably none of the guys have seen it or it's not been available. And I've found a way to get my hands on it and I do that. I mean, I watch films endlessly and, you know, there's a lot to that. It's also a part of history. And it's not just because I'm an actor, but it's always been something that's given me tremendous pleasure. And I'm glad that I could kind of pass that off to my kids because they're equally invested in that. And we don't sit around and have long drawn out academic conversations. We're not reenacting the Charlie Rose show or anything in the living room after the film. But it is also. It's very primal, Right. It sort of goes back to. It's sort of like doing cave paintings, sitting around some campfire. It's just slightly more moved forward. But it is what it is. But it makes you think. Some films are no think they're just pure kind of mindless entertainment and they have value. And then other films really deeply move you and they stay with you.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. As I think about it, I love the Town, one of the movies you were in. And I really found it to be a really good and entertaining movie. But for me, I find myself. I probably said as an example or metaphor like a thousand times, that scene where they're running, they're escaping the bank robbery and they all come pulling up and there's that cop, that Boston cop, who sort of looks at him, sees them all in the car with their guns and costumes and everything and just very slowly just sort of turns the other one way. I've said that, like, I've used that as an example of, you know, in life when people like see something and go, all right, but I'm making a business decision here, right? And I'm not going to do my job. I'll just look this way and they will go away. And so there's a lot of examples, like in films, like people go. It's a lot like, you know, this movie that Scene or that movie. In this scene, like, you have a visual manifestation of something being acted out. That is an attitude. Oh, now we're looking at it right now.

[Dawson]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

They all jump out of the Jeep Cherokee and the cop just staring at him, and he knows he's totally outgunned.

[Titus Welliver]

It's not doing anything.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not gonna work, but it is.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, there you go.

[Adam Carolla]

And he literally just looks the other way.

[Titus Welliver]

Decision made.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. He made a business decision. And there's a lot of that. You'll see it in life. You know what I mean?

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, you will see it in life. And that I get. That's a form of survival. That cop looks at that situation.

[Adam Carolla]

I think we all would have done the same thing.

[Titus Welliver]

But there's also going back to passivity. I think there are a lot of people that are. It's sort of like seeing some know. It's like when kids are little and they'll drop something on the floor and kind of walk by it, Right. And then you have to say, hey, pick that up. And my father would always say, if it's not you, somebody else is going to have to pick that up. So do your thing. And I think people. There's a malaise. People aren't picking stuff up. They're just kind of taking that turning and looking the other way. It's not my problem. It's not my problem. Or I just don't want. I don't want to acknowledge. If I acknowledge that, then I'm going to have to engage. I'm going to have to be a person of action. And I don't really want to be a person of action. I'd rather just kind of let somebody else deal with that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. You know, I had this thought recently. It's not a happy thought, but.

[Titus Welliver]

You.

[Adam Carolla]

Scroll through your phone and you see videos of people fighting on the schoolyards or fighting in the subway or whatever. And I think the natural and first reaction to people is like, God, look at those women fighting at the airport or fighting on the schoolyard. And then my next thought is a kind of brutality of it, which is there were fights and school fights and fist fights. And once one guy got punched and went down, the other guy walked away, but he didn't kick him in the head while he was unconscious. And these people are being kicked in the head while they're lying there.

[Titus Welliver]

Savage.

[Adam Carolla]

It's savage. Okay, so it's savage. And so the other day, I have no idea. It's not like I subscribed to any of this. Stuff I'm just looking at my phone and there's a couple of probably 14, 15 year old girls and they're out front of a school where they pick up and drop off whatever. And the one's just beating the bejesus out and she's got the hair and she's smacking against the concrete and she's on the ground and she's punching and it's savage and it's horrible. But the part I start noticing is there's dudes, teenage dudes that are just walking past and they're sort of looking at it and walking. And one person's filming and the other person's filming from this angle. And everyone is standing around. And I thought, that wouldn't have flown when I was in junior high or high school. Not a chance. We would have gotten involved. We wouldn't have let somebody be rendered brain dead.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And put on life support while we stood there and watched. And it wouldn't have mattered if it was a woman beating another woman to death or a man beating a man or a man beating a woman, we would immediately intervene and we would have done it en masse. My friends. I know my friends are. We've done stuff like this. You jump in and you grab the guy and you grab him to the ground, whatever. And then I thought, what is this? Yeah, this passivity. And then I started thinking it may be connected to the sort of toxic masculinity and. Because really what you're saying is men intervene. Like we need men to intervene in this situation. There's somebody. There's a teacher having the shit beat out of them by student and everyone's just sort of hanging out.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way.

[Titus Welliver]

Filming it.

[Adam Carolla]

Filming it. But also, like, even when the other male teacher comes around the corner, or even sometimes the custodian or the guard, they kind of walk up and they're watching and this person's throwing haymaker after haymaker on a ground and pound situation. And they're like. It's like, hey, that person got five licks in. While you were trying to figure out what to do. How about you dive on top of them? And I thought, I think a lot. I think we've taken God and we've said, don't get involved, you're gonna get sued, you're gonna get trouble, you're gonna get me to. There's race elements here. If that guy's being here is black and you jump on the guy, someone may film it and call the hate crime. And guys are just. They go we're standing down. Yeah, we're just. We're just gonna stand back and watch this woman get her head smashed into the sidewalk over and over again, and we're just gonna keep walking. Yeah, and that's not where you want to be.

[Titus Welliver]

No, it's not. And it's. And it's a constant. Look, every time, you know, you go on Facebook, there are endless clips like that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

And I'm the same way. I'm not sitting around. I don't subscribe to anything like that. I'm certainly not talking to my phone. You know, show me a video of a school beating.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Titus Welliver]

It's really primitive. It's really primitive. But I think Savage is. I agree with you that it's somehow been informed by, don't get involved because the consequences will not be positive. Whereas back in our day, you would have immediately gotten involved no matter what, and you didn't have to run and go and get a teacher. Kids took action on their own. Separated two guys in a fight. Even if they knew you might show up to, hey, Billy and Johnny are going to fight in the schoolyard after school. Well, there'd be. Usually it was a lot of fronting and chesting and stuff like that. They might exchange a few blows. But when somebody got hit and they were clearly hurt, then guys and gals, everybody got in and went, okay, it's over, because you wanted to get it out of there before the principal came in. But now this whole passive standard by, you know, it's terrible. I was raised in a household where my father said, never be passive. If you see someone who needs help, help them. You go towards it in the same way that firemen and policemen and military people are trying trained. And even in that we're in such a litigious society as well now that you don't want to. People are terrified. They want to get in their car and just let me get from where I am now and get home safely and not have some kind of a confrontation with some lunatic who's swerving their car at me because I'm not going fast enough.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I think it's a perfect storm of lawyers and litigious. I mean, there's plenty of lawsuits where the criminal was up on the roof trying to bust through the skylight, get into the grocery store, and he broke his leg on the way down. And then they sued the grocery store owner. So it's like, there's an element of, like, I don't want to get involved for litigious reasons. Yeah. Then there is kind of a toxic masculinity. Like someone may grab a clip of this and put it in the wrong context and then it looks like I'm just punching a woman on the streets. Then there's a racial component of it where how's this gonna play in our sort of hair trigger society? And then there's kind of a physiological thing, like maybe too many plastics in everyone's bloodstream and lack of testosterone and sperm count and things like that where guys are rendered, they're sort of dulled. Like they're not eager for the fray. Like, you know, when I was, I had a bunch of 19 year old friends. We weren't bullies, but we were up for whatever you were up for. And we were at the Sherman Oaks Galleria once and we just left after watching movies and there was some punk guy, some kind of hooligan guy, and he had a chain and a steel thing on, kind of like nunchucks with like about a three foot chain and steel bar. And he was like swinging over his head and we just all walked out and we looked at him and he was terrorizing people in the parking lot at Sherman Oaks Galleria. And it was like three of us and we just like looked at the guy and he's like, go, get the fuck out of here. Like dressed punk rock, his hair spiked or whatever. And it was like women were like running by him and scared and kids and stuff. And he wasn't anywhere near us, he didn't even see us. But we just kind of looked at him and went, well this isn't gonna do.

[Titus Welliver]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

Like he's terrorizing all these poor people that come here to shop like their kids and what the fuck is this guy up to? And we just want up. We just went up and put a stop to it.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it, it was physical. And my friend ended up getting hit with the chain.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But we weren't going to stand by and watch it. Our. We could have walked our car and just, just left. But we're like, this not going to do. No, this guy's with people. It doesn't fly and we got to stop it. And if someone's getting their head mashed against the concrete, we just intervened.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's not even you. You know, people can say, oh, this is a. Hindsight is 2020 or you don't know how you would have reacted. And I go, oh no, I do, because I've had a bunch of those incidents where I did get involved and so did the guys I was around got involved with those situations. So we would have. And traditionally, so did everybody. And now you've told guys, you are toxic, Put your hands in your pocket, keep walking, don't ever raise a hand. Physicality or violence is not the answer to anything. It's like, well, in that moment, it is the answer.

[Titus Welliver]

It is. Well, you have to be a person of action. And I understand it. People, it's, you know, in our time, you know, if a knife came out or something, it was pretty unusual. It was usually people were resolving things with their fists and their feet. Right now everybody's worried about getting shot because there's so many, you know, people have access to guns. I remember as a kid, the first time I ever saw a zip gun, and that was a big deal, you know, but typically, if you had a beef with somebody you met up in the schoolyard or in the park and you had your group of friends so that it stayed even. And like you said, that was that, you know, it got resolved. I mean, I had a thing when I was about 20 years old. I was walking down 14th street back home in York, and I saw this guy wailing on this woman and I mean, hitting her with a closed fist.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Titus Welliver]

And I just went nuts and, you know, just broadsided him and I got on top of him and I'm, you know, I'm beating the shit out of this guy. And the cops, which was unusual in the 80s, the cops showed up very quickly, got separated us and everything. And then the woman who he was beating up, and by the way, she looked like she'd been in a prize fight, starts talking about wanting to press charges against me.

[Adam Carolla]

Against you.

[Titus Welliver]

Because I assaulted. And then saying that I had assaulted her as well and that I attacked them and I was trying to rob them. Of course, the cops were wise to the whole thing, and they just looked at me and went, go home. But one of the cops stopped me and he said, look, you know, God bless, but, you know, you could have gotten this guy, might have had a gun or might have had a knife. You know, leave it to the cops. They said there were no cops around. And I said I couldn't. I wasn't raised that way.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And today you may have been sued.

[Titus Welliver]

Sued 100%.

[Adam Carolla]

100%. And so no question about it, then. The question is, is after you being sued, then what wisdom do you impart to your son? Your dad said, don't be passive. Get involved. But you just got sued, and now you're worried about your son getting sued. So now we're in some weird place where you're telling your son, keep walking. Perhaps because of this litigious society. And it kind of trickles. Like I said, I think this is a kind of perfect storm of a litigious society with toxic masculinity, with men who, who just lower sperm count, testosterone and stuff. And now again, the most horrifying thing of all these videos is the teenage dudes watching while people are being savagely laughing and laughing and filming and clapping.

[Titus Welliver]

It's Clockwork Orange if you think about it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, it's Clockwork Orange.

[Titus Welliver]

And I remember seeing that film as a kid and thinking, well, society's crazy, but it's never gonna be. That film resonates now more than ever. It's all of those things, which is, you know, it's a sad commentary, but what is it going to take? That's the bigger, you know, the larger question is, what is it? What will be the catalyst that will affect some kind of change and bring the moral compass of society and on that level, dealing with.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. You know, I don't know if there'll be an event, but we're gonna have to get dads back involved in saying, look, there's a role. Yeah, and him showing his son how to throw a proper punch is not toxic masculinity. And the nine year old son wrestling with the neighbor kid on the lawn at the barbecue is something boys do. And we don't have to keep yelling at them to stop running or we'd have to eliminate the dodgeball and the football. Like, we're gonna have to get dads and men and sort of start going, look, there's a place for this. It's in our biology. And weeding it out is leading to chaos.

[Titus Welliver]

Well, it's not unhealthy and it's not toxic.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Titus Welliver]

I think about all of that. I mean, I had. There were five of us boys, five boys, Irish psychopaths. I mean, we used to wail on each other, but there was wrestling and stuff that went on all the time. And if, you know, we would get into physical confrontations, get close, my father would say, okay, you know what, I'm not having you trash the house with this insanity, but you need to work this out. And so we had a set of boxing gloves, really. And my father would say, go out into the yard. And he would come out and he would stand there and go, ding, ding.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Titus Welliver]

And you know, we'd throw a few, get in a couple of shots on each other, and he'd go, okay, that's it. It's done, Right?

[Adam Carolla]

And he would be arrested today if he did that.

[Titus Welliver]

Oh, 100%. 100%.

[Adam Carolla]

And he'd be on the news, and they'd be disgusted, and people would be outraged. And. And I'm like, look, whatever little experiment we're running clearly isn't yielding the results that are desired. So let's see if we can rework this a little bit.

[Titus Welliver]

Well, what it also taught us was that, obviously, as we got older, that whole thing wasn't an option. We had conversations, hey, you know what? If you're going to borrow that coat of mine, put it back in the closet where you found it. Or, oh, you borrowed that thing of mine and you were so loaded at a party that you left that jacket there. So guess what? You're gonna have to dig into your allowance. You're gonna have to replace that coat. And rather than the norm, which was just to start attacking each other like it was feeding time at the San Diego Zoo, just throwing hamburger on each other.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, really, what we're talking about and what mammals, male mammals need to do is test with rough play up to the sort of edge of injury and aggression and stuff like that. And I realized that there was a lot of, like, right to that edge stuff that we were constantly testing. And then once that was sort of locked off and set with real aggressive wrestling and stuff. But right to the edge. Then later on, when I found myself getting into physical confrontations with people I didn't know, going past that, but then knowing where to stop, and so you would have never seen. What you see now is kicking the person in the head while they're laying on the ground. Because. Because I tested it, figured it out, got comfortable with it, and that person on the ground is enough. This is over. And you can declare yourself the victor in this instance. But I don't think kids are able to test that edge. And then what they're doing is they're sort of snapping. And the snapping is insane, because as the cops or the custodian or the school guard is pulling them away, they're trying to get an extra kick in.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's like, this is the behavior a dad would have if he was in court and the guy who raped his daughter was being arraigned of diving over the wall and trying to choke him before he went to prison. Except for you guys are doing this over a Danish, right? Or a look or some disrespectful words or a comment or a tweet, you know, What? I mean, like, how does this trigger. I understand. The dad who's staring at the rapist. You know, that guy get. Where did this come from? And obviously, there's something missing.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. There's something in the chain that. In the chain that's broken. Yes. And that's. It's pretty disheartening.

[Adam Carolla]

The chain needs. We need to return the chain. All right. I. I got some movies to give you to take with you, by the way, if you like movies. Some Made some docs and some movies.

[Titus Welliver]

Hey, I wanted to ask you a question. Totally. This is totally out of left field, but because you and I share an obsession and fascination for, you know, Paul Newman and Steve McQueen and cars and things, and I was doing some research that Paul Newman's watch that he wore sold at an auction for something like a half a million dollars.

[Adam Carolla]

No. 18.8 million dollars.

[Titus Welliver]

18.8?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

Jesus.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, Dawson can look it up, but, I mean, auctions have, like, a 10% vig, so if they hammer it 16 and a half million, you can tack on another, you know, 1.7 million bucks to the price of it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

17.8.

[Adam Carolla]

17.8 million.

[Titus Welliver]

What was it? Was it a Rolex or a tag?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Rolex Daytona.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. He gave it to. He gave it to his girlfriend's boyfriend who helped him build, like, a cabin.

[Titus Welliver]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, when the guy was in college. College.

[Titus Welliver]

That's crazy, because I know that they. The McQueen one, that was a tag, right, that he wore in Le Mans.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. They had three watches, and they had, like, the hero watch and the one. Yeah, yeah. That went for a lot. But not 18 million bucks. No.

[Titus Welliver]

18 million bucks.

[Adam Carolla]

You know the thing that was crazy about that auction? Of course I was watching it because I have 13 of his cars, you know, so I was like, I want to know what this watch is going for. And in that auction where they didn't really know what it was going to go for, a guy got right out of the gate with a $10 million bid. So they were like, all right, we got this watch. Do I hear $1 million? And someone just yelled, 10 million. And everyone just stopped and went. And everyone was surprised and, like, looked around, and then the guy's like, do I have 11 million? And someone raised their paddle.

[Titus Welliver]

Unbelievable.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it was an interesting strategy to shut it down at 10.

[Titus Welliver]

That's crazy.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I've interviewed the guy who had the watch, and he said, you know, he, like, he gave it to him when he was, like, you know, 19 or 21 or something. He Wore it, you know, like, first off, you gave me that watch. It'd be. Yeah, yeah. It'd be gone millions times. No, I wouldn't even know where it was. I would have moved so many times in a box. I would have traded it for burrito when I was drunk. You know, like a good burrito, but. But a burrito. You know what I mean?

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

This guy said he, like, had it in his apartment. His apartment got robbed.

[Titus Welliver]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

And the watch was left behind. You know, I'm not, you know, sitting on top of the bed, but I just mean, like in a sock drawer or something. But. But he'd been robbed a few times and didn't take the watch.

[Titus Welliver]

Incredible.

[Adam Carolla]

It's crazy, right?

[Titus Welliver]

That's totally nuts.

[Adam Carolla]

Then the guy told me a story that he found a second Rolex watch once when he was, like, walking through the park. I was like, what is it with you and Rolex?

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, he's a magnet.

[Adam Carolla]

Where are all these Rolex watches coming from?

[Titus Welliver]

How lucky is that guy?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Newman was like. He helped him for the summer build, like, a little lake cabin house or boathouse or something. And it, like. Newman was very that way. Probably had a couple Budweisers. You know, at the end, he was like, hey, kid. Yeah. Just pulled the watch off and went like, yeah, take that.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah. Because he used to be at Lime Rock, and I had a house in Connecticut very close to Lime Rock. I actually would have to drive by the park all the time.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah, Lime Rock. Oh, by the way, I said girlfriend's boyfriend. I meant daughter's boyfriend.

[Titus Welliver]

Daughter's boyfriend.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Yeah, I screwed that one up. But, yeah. Yeah, that's the guy.

[Titus Welliver]

That's wild, man.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Lime Rock was his home track, and I do drive his car. Cars pretty much whenever I can.

[Titus Welliver]

Do you just zip them around?

[Adam Carolla]

I do. I race them.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

In vintage races.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. It's kind of crazy.

[Titus Welliver]

That is crazy.

[Adam Carolla]

It is. But it feels good.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, of course it does.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's kind of like. I mean, I'm not too spiritual, but, like, I have a car. And it's. The headrest is embroidered, and it says PLN in red, white, and blue thread. And when I get in the car, the car's got little pieces of tape and stuff on the steering wheel, like where he liked to put his hands, and little arrows on some of the gauges that he wanted to keep his eye on. And that was really his place. And it probably the place where he was the most sort of at. At one with himself or Something like that's where he wanted to be. He wanted to be in this cockpit, in this thing. And so to like sit in there and kind of just experience what he was experiencing.

[Titus Welliver]

Oh, no. That takes you to another place.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's kind of. It's kind of interesting.

[Titus Welliver]

Definitely takes you to another place.

[Adam Carolla]

You say his name on the car and stuff like that and just kind of feel like, yeah, I'm sitting where he was sitting. It's the same seat, same steering wheel, same stuff.

[Titus Welliver]

Can you imagine the conversations that. Because I know that McQueen was an extremely competitive guy, but imagine them on the set of the Towering Inferno, you know, because Newman was a serious guy. I mean, he really raced cars. And I know McQueen, you know, raced bikes and stuff like that.

[Adam Carolla]

And I know there was a McQueen race. You can find. Dawson, Adam Carolla, Laguna Seca, Newman 2/2Z. Maybe I can show you that car or lap. But McQueen was serious. He did a lot of off road stuff. And he also. But he also raced Sebring. He did the 12 Hours of Sebring. He did do that with a broken foot by. Oh, wow. And he was a pretty accomplished guy. And he went to Le Mans. He didn't race Le Mans, but he raced in le Mans at 917 Porsche. And so he's pretty accomplished. Newman ran the whole circuit and he did Le Mans as a driver and he also won four driving championships and accumulated points. And you have to go on tour.

[Titus Welliver]

He was an accomplished. Serious, serious.

[Adam Carolla]

You have to.

[Titus Welliver]

Not a hobby.

[Adam Carolla]

You have to. Let's see. Trans Am qualifying, lap crash at Laguna Seca. Ready? Is that what I said?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No, it looks like we got the.

[Adam Carolla]

Why do you have me Trans Am?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I didn't put that up there.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I already put. Why would it translate into me saying lap crash at Laguna Seca? Qualifying in a Trans Ambrose? You said lap crash, Steve, but I always say this. Cause how would that possibly be? I did crash a professional car there.

[Titus Welliver]

Not one of your Newman cars.

[Adam Carolla]

No, it was a modern professional race. But this would be Newman, Corolla Z. You may have to walk them through this. Dawson. 300 ZX 2014. Two plus two. Yeah, we'll show you one of his cars. Yeah.

[Titus Welliver]

Now, do you have any of his helmets or his suits or anything?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I have his helmets. Helmets and I have his suits.

[Titus Welliver]

Really?

[Adam Carolla]

And they got his DNA all over it, you know, so if we ever want to go Jurassic park with Newman.

[Titus Welliver]

It would be great to have him.

[Adam Carolla]

You gotta go to me.

[Titus Welliver]

It'd be great to have him back.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And the back of the helmet says his date of birth.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

As his blood type and as his last tetanus shot.

[Titus Welliver]

No kidding.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. There's a date that says Tet.

[Titus Welliver]

He was a. I met him when I was a little boy a couple times, and he was a really, really sweet man. He was.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I never met him.

[Titus Welliver]

Really? Really, really cool and funny.

[Adam Carolla]

He seemed like he didn't suffer fools.

[Titus Welliver]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

But if he liked you, you're in good shape. If he didn't.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, he was. He. My dad became acquainted with him through my godfather, the screenwriter and novelist Terry Southern. And that's. Oh, here we go.

[Adam Carolla]

Listen. It's a fabricated 100% race car shoots fire out of the exhaust pipe. So that's newman from his 882 plus 2Z car. And we'll just go around the track, but. Yeah, there's like 45 cars in this race, and Newman would be one of them.

[Titus Welliver]

Now, how many of these of his cars do you have in your collection? Or is that top secret? Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

And most of them run pretty good. They grid you out.

[Titus Welliver]

They.

[Adam Carolla]

There. You can turn it up, but the sound is great. Well, go back. Go to the start of the race. Da. Go. All right. You can. You can just run from there. Yeah. They bring you out, and then they bring you around that first corner into the straight, and you. And then they drop the green flag. You tell me if this Porsche blocks me or not.

[Titus Welliver]

You think? Yeah, no kidding.

[Adam Carolla]

I think you were coming up quickly, and he was. He may be getting out of the way of somebody, but I don't think. Wait a minute. Yeah. All he does is lose time. He pulls out in front of me, loses time, and then pulls back onto the track.

[Titus Welliver]

You and Spike, do you ever call each other up and go, hey, I'll meet you on the 4:05 Sunday at noon. I got a new. A new car. I want to.

[Adam Carolla]

Spike Ferrison.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

No, but I love Spike.

[Titus Welliver]

He's. He's wild.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. This race is kind of nuts. People think you're doing, like, practice laps or something, but you're not.

[Titus Welliver]

This is a race.

[Adam Carolla]

You're in a race. This is a race, and everyone's trying as hard as they can. Turn the sound off. I just want to hear this. I. I would like to think he had some plan other than blocking me. It could have been drunk either way, or got past him pretty quickly. But a few of the guys that I would have passed, I now had to pass. Now, so now you're back in this group that we Saw in the qualifying.

[Dean Del Rey]

There's the Camaro, the Gen 2.

[Adam Carolla]

There's Tulius's TR8, which I did pass at the start, except for I got blocked. This is podcast.

[Titus Welliver]

I do, but what year was this?

[Adam Carolla]

It's not because I'm a. The cars in 88. I was doing this like 2014 or 15 or something.

[Titus Welliver]

That is wild.

[Adam Carolla]

It is kind of crazy. But you're sitting in his car.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it runs.

[Titus Welliver]

You get moved by the spirit. I mean, how could you not? Right. If you're in that vehicle, there's some sort of inexplicable possession that has to come over you, particularly because obviously you are profoundly passionate and this is something that you love. And so how could you not?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's definitely Newman when he was where he wanted to be in the moments he wanted to be in it. And I do think about that. Like that's where he wanted. That's where he wanted to be.

[Titus Welliver]

And that experience resonates. And it's the same for you. Right. When you're doing that, you don't think about anything else. Well, yeah, you better not.

[Adam Carolla]

No. All you think about is whatever you're doing next. Yeah, but there's a. If you go back like 20 or 30 seconds, I'll just let you hear it. It's kind of the. It's kind of the sound. If you listen to the car. So it's like a whole day. It's like a whole experience because of the sound and stuff flying around and. And stuff like that. That. You know, there's no windows. I mean, there's a windshield, but there's no side windows or anything. So. Yeah. Yeah. It's very immersive. Completely, is what I would say.

[Titus Welliver]

Completely.

[Adam Carolla]

And you're strapped in six. In a six way harness. You don't really think. You're not moving. You can't move.

[Titus Welliver]

No, no.

[Adam Carolla]

So it's weird being strapped in. You can't see. I mean, you can see, but you have to use mirrors. You. You can't move your head because your head's strapped.

[Titus Welliver]

That's. That's really.

[Adam Carolla]

It's kind of crazy. Definitely sweaty when you get out of the car.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And you definitely want a beer. It's like the best beer you're ever gonna have.

[Titus Welliver]

I made it.

[Adam Carolla]

It is a good beer. All right, Ty, let me give you a plug. Bosch Legacy and last two episodes are in front of us right. Coming up. And let's see, what about your. Any place we want to send people to find you. And by the way Bosch on Amazon, but I don't know, Twitter, whatever account, anything like that.

[Titus Welliver]

Yeah, I'm on Twitter and I do, you know, Blue sky is starting to kind of pop, but I'm still on Twitter and Instagram. I'm out there there chatting with people and, you know, promoting stuff that I'm doing. This is the final season. Just to be clear to everyone, because people keep saying to me, is that the final season? Question mark. But it is the final season. Both of those final episodes come out on tomorrow. On Thursday, they drop.

[Adam Carolla]

So watch those because it's so good. Good to see you, Titus.

[Titus Welliver]

Great to see you. Thanks for having me, man.

[Adam Carolla]

Always a pleasure. Until next time, this is Sam Krolef for Titus. Well, Dean Del Rey saying mahalo.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Pick up your phone and leave us a voicemail. The number is 888-634-1744. Adam Corolla coming to a town near you. Get Tickets [e-mail].

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