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Former DEA Agents Chris Feistl and Dave Mitchell + ‘Hawk Tuah Girl’ Haliey Welch
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Adam Carolla
Well, in this episode we talked to a couple of ex DEA agents who know everything about all what's going on over there with the cartels and beyond. 60 years experience between the two of them. Chris Feistel and Dave Mitchell are going to join us. They've written a book. Also, Rudy's going to be doing the news and Hayley Welch to a girl is going to tell us how it all got started. Interesting. I think you'll find it interesting. We'll do that right after this.
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Rudy Povich
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Adam Carolla
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Rudy Povich
Corolla 1 Studios in Glendale, California. This is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, the authors of After Escobar, former DEA agents Chris Feistel and Dave Mitchell. We'll talk to Hawk Tua girl Haley Welch. And we'll get the news with Rudy Povich. And now hips or lips, Adam Carolla.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the chairs. All right. Chris, Dave, good to see you guys.
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Unknown
Hey, Adam, good to be with you.
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Adam Carolla
Thanks for your service. It's a good subject to jump into because I dabbled with it a little bit. Know something about it? Seen some of the shows. After Escobar, that's the book. And it is coming out in just a few short days, weeks. Close 24th. June 24th. And so you guys worked that circuit for a long time. So first off, you guys heard of the Whittington brothers?
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Unknown
No.
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Haley Welch
No.
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Adam Carolla
They must have predated you guys. These were crazy drug running, Miami car racer guys who the speed guys who on the American side who brought it in and airplanes and all that kind of stuff to fund their racing habit. But that was probably early late 70s, early 80s. So you guys got there. What year did you guys get to the in 1988. 1988. And Chris, when did you get there?
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Haley Welch
Same.
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Unknown
1988.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, you got there at the same time?
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Unknown
Yep.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, okay. Cause at one, so someone's been in for 33 and someone's been in for 27. So someone retired a little earlier.
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Haley Welch
Yeah, 27, 33.
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Adam Carolla
Right. So, okay, first, let's just talk about sort of modern times. Everyone's pissed off about ice and they don't like the raids. And Trump wants to label the cartels as terrorists and put an end to this and fentanyl and the border's open. Where do we come down on all that stuff?
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Unknown
Well, I think now that you've seen that the border is much more secure. You've seen a decrease in the amount of fentanyl coming across the border into the US and you've also seen the amount of deaths decrease as a result of that. So I think it's definitely making an impact.
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Adam Carolla
And then when it comes to Biden and Mayorkas and folks of that ilk, are they sort of bad at their job or do they want the border open? Because I can never really figure out like you're doing everything you can do to keep the border open, essentially. But is that because you want the border open? Are you just completely misguided or does Mayorkas isn't even talking to Biden and has no idea and it's being run by somebody else? Like, what do you think what happened in the last four years that they sort of undid everything that was done?
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Haley Welch
I think just by their actions, they wanted people come in. Yeah, you know, maybe they're looking at future voters, I mean, who knows? But when you had that mass amount of people coming in at one time, now it's just gonna destroy your infrastructure.
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Adam Carolla
And how much does a cartel look at a Biden versus a Trump and think in a way like you're going to a military academy and you got one guy's gonna be the commandant, he's just super hard ass. And then the other one's Kamala Harris. And I would imagine you went to the military academy hoping that Kamala Harris got to be the next commandant because it'd be a little easier for you around there versus lights out, discipline, so on and so forth. I imagine the cartel looks at it that way.
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Unknown
Of course, they're always looking for the path of least resistance. So they know that if the border is unsecure and it's wide open, they can make a lot more money. You know, remember, these cartels are involved in drug trafficking, human trafficking, money laundering, gun smuggling, anything that they can. So if it's open and it's easier for them, they're going to make more money. So it's obvious to them who they want to see in power.
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Adam Carolla
Do they get involved with trying to affect elections?
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Unknown
I don't think so. Not here, not in the US In Mexico for sure, they're involved in getting their candidate and backing who they want to be in power. But I don't believe here in the.
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Adam Carolla
US They've made a noise.
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Haley Welch
But I wouldn't be surprised at the same time if they funneled some money into the campaign, knows someone, it's pretty.
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Adam Carolla
Consequential to their Business, right. I mean, a closed border means, yeah.
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Haley Welch
They'Re losing a lot of money.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, they lose a lot of money. But they're very fluid. Right. They just re like the second you decriminalize pot, they move on to something else. Where they're formerly 50 years apart, now no more. Or not the business it was. I mean, I think if we outlawed gummy bears in California, they would shift, they would switch to gummy bears, right?
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Unknown
Exactly.
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Adam Carolla
That's this jewelry. They're really just money making organizations. They're not really drugs or guns. I think we think of them as like narco terrorists or something. But I think it's just the easiest way to make money. But they'll shift to people and they'll shift to anything. Guns, they'll shift to anything that makes money. Is that correct?
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Unknown
Absolutely. Anything that they can to make money.
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Haley Welch
And if you look at amount of money, there's been estimates like $50 billion going into the Mexican economy just from the illegal activities of, you know, smuggling individuals, narcotics. $50 billion into your economy, That's a lot.
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Adam Carolla
What is there right now, or at least when you guys are on the beat, is it drugs, drugs, drugs, then human trafficking, or is human trafficking catching up to drug smuggling?
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Haley Welch
Well, when we were on it's drugs, that's drugs and drugs, but now you see more human trafficking because they're probably money doing human trafficking.
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Adam Carolla
Right.
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Haley Welch
You know, so, but when we run, it was strictly, you know, the drug was cocaine and heroin. But now you see more of the synthetic drugs that the Mexican cartels are pushing in. Why synthetic drugs? Because it's cheaper and they get more of a profit from it. For example, if they want to like have heroin for the poppy fields in Mexico, you got to have a lot, a large land mass. You got to pay people to protect it, you've got to pay people to harvest it and. But if you just have synthetic drugs, you can have a warehouse bring in some chemicals from China and you can produce, you know, enormous amounts.
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Unknown
Super easy.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. So China isn't making this stuff, but they're making them able to make the stuff, right?
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Haley Welch
Absolutely.
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Unknown
A lot of the precursor chemicals that they use to make fentanyl and other drugs are coming from China.
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Haley Welch
And it's not even that China is getting, you know, in the old days when we run, you see money laundering. Oh, that's a Colombian cartel that's doing that money laundering. Now you see the Chinese getting into the money laundering with the Mexicans, not the Colombians.
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Adam Carolla
What's the number one way they Launder?
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Haley Welch
Well, there's different ways, but say for instance, you have a Mexican cartel and you want $300,000 worth of chemicals. So they'll have. The Mexicans will have a representative in the states hand over 300,000 to a Chinese who may be a student at a college, and that person in turn would give it to his contact. So now they had $300,000, the Chinese, what are they going to do? Well, they may buy property, they might buy farmland. And look at all the farmland the Chinese are purchasing now. It's enormous.
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Adam Carolla
Are we just going to have to sort of untangle the. This whole thing? I mean, sort of business as usual was just sort of an open border and looked the other way and before, you know, can't do that. But I mean, Mexico is so steeped in this that in order to undo it, you're gonna have to break so many bones that maybe the doctor says just walk with a limp. At least you can get along, you know what I mean? Versus major surgery. Like, Mexico is so far down the road that I don't even know how you undo what has been done, what has metastasized over the last, over decades. Right. We are not as far down that road, but we're sort of. It's still a road and you just keep sort of going. You have, you know, LA is a sanctuary city and you sort of look the other way at all the street vendors and you stop enforcing the laws against. And before you know it, we are down that road. I mean, we did it with homelessness. Like, at a certain point we're gonna need a skip loader and bulldozers to stack up all the homeless people and get them off the fucking street. Like, when there's a few guys running around, you can kind of police it, but you look the other way for a few decades and now you're sort of. You have to live with it, you know what I mean? Like, you live in Los Angeles, you live with homeless, you live in Mexico, you live with cartels. And then you go, well, just don't agitate. Walk to the other side of the street. Try not to engage them. You know, you'll probably be okay. You know, then you start making deals with the devil, essentially. That's what happens when you let something metastasize.
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Haley Welch
But I think the Trump administration is making some good inroads. And one is called ofac, that's the Office of Foreign Asset Control. So pretty much, you know, they will put a company on OFAC if it's dealing directly with the Cartel. Now it's illegal to deal with that cartel. So at that company, whatever it may be, maybe is laundering some money now it's going to be penalized where that. Where that company cannot do any negotiations in the United States, any business.
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Unknown
And that's been in effect for quite some time. And it's been very successful trying to target these drug trafficking organizations.
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Adam Carolla
What was the number one way they moved drugs when you guys were on the beat, when they're trying to get it across the board? I mean, you hear about the semi submersibles and you hear about stuff welded into fenders and trucks and it's everything.
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Haley Welch
I mean, the Cali cartel, which the book's about, you know, their specialty was put in containerized ships. And because you can take tons and tons in a containerized ship and it would be hidden in say, wood pallets, frozen broccoli or anything like that. But no, you can bring it in through, you know, there's airplanes that will fly in and just drop it off in the Everglades. Like one of the heydays was, I would say from 1978 to 1982 when Carlos Leader had Norman's Cay. They just used that as a transshipment point to go into South Florida. Incis inundated South Florida.
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Unknown
And that's the thing. And you see, just like we were talking about earlier, is that how these drug trafficking cartels evolved? You know, in the 70s and 80s it was that Caribbean corridor, like Dave said, coming up through the Caribbean and Normans Cay. Then they were able to shift into Mexico, bringing the drugs into. Into Mexico on these massive 727s and caravel aircraft and then turning it over to the Mexican organization so that they can transfer, transport it over land into the US Then they went into Europe too. So they're always looking for new markets to make money. And. And they've evolved over time.
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Haley Welch
Adam, this is interesting too. In 1989 there was a warehouse just outside of La Dea got some information, got a search warrant, went inside and they seized about 21 tons. That's 21 tons. Now that is 1989, when majority of the dope was still being, you know, shipped through the Caribbean corridor. But through the records they found in that warehouse, they saw where within the past three months there was like 77 tons that was brought in. And that was actually the Cali cartel and the Medellin cartels dope in one location.
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Adam Carolla
Who and the cartels do they sort of try to coexist for the sake of not, you know, creating wars with one another.
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Unknown
They did. Early on, the Cali and Medine cartels used to work together in Colombia. But as you know, when you get the two biggest kids on the block, you can only coexist for a certain amount of time before there's a rivalry and there's a problem and there's fights. So they did coexist amicably until about 1988. And then, of course, the brutal war between the Cali and Medellin cartel started, which lasted six years. But, yeah, early on, they worked together. The Medellin cartel took Miami, the Cali cartel took New York, and the rest of the US Was what they called up for grabs. So they operated freely and together in all of those other locations, but those two cities were exclusive to each cartel.
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Adam Carolla
And I'm trying to think, like, on a deeper, more psychological level, you have to have. In order to have a cartel, you kind of have to have a government and a society and environment that's sort of hospitable to it, because it'd be hard. It'd be hard to launch out here. You just have a difficult time forming a cartel here because the government wouldn't really put up with it.
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Unknown
Correct.
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Adam Carolla
And just the same as I'd say you'd have. They always talk about how racist this country was, but we couldn't. We couldn't elect a Klansman because we wouldn't put up with it. We wouldn't put up with ethnic cleansing. We just. We wouldn't. Things our society wouldn't put up with. But. And I don't think England would put up with it, and I don't think Sweden would put up with it. From a governmental standpoint, you couldn't really take it off. But there's something different about the mentality of these places, Central South America. What is different about their mentality?
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Haley Welch
It's funny you said that, because during the Medellin cartel, you know, you had Pablo Escobar and others that was putting bombs, you know, throughout Bogota and throughout the whole country. Like in 1989, you know, he shot. You know, they. They placed an explosive device in a jetliner.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. Blew up a commercial airline, like 130 people on it or something.
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Haley Welch
And they blew up, like, government buildings. So at that time, when Medellin was losing its power, and, of course, the Cali cartel was up on the rise, you know, I think this was actually told to me at one time, they said, you know what? We don't want Medellin. But Cali cartel, they don't put Bombs everywhere. They're more like businessmen. They actually put in 40, 40% of the new construction in Cali is from these guys. So it's kind of like their, their thought was that if there is a demand for this stuff in the United States, there's going to be some type of drug cartel that's going to provide it. And why not the Cali cartel? Because again, they're not putting bombs and shooting down airliners or anything like that.
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Unknown
And the other thing too is that you see one of the reasons why you don't have these massive cartels in the US is what do these cartels need to function and to survive? Corruption. Right. These cartels cannot exist without corruption. And I think you see that we outline it very well in the book. There was extensive systemic corruption within Colombia and we also know there's corruption in Mexico. But in the US we don't have that level of corruption. And it's impossible for a cartel of that size to exist. Here in the US now you have gangs and stuff like that, but these massive cartels. Yeah, they don't exist in the US like this.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, you need a society, a mentality, a culture or something. It's like certain cultures haggle, we don't haggle, but they look at us as fools for not haggling. And we look at them as beneath that, being beneath us. That's not how our culture works. But certain cultures are just open to different forms of business and corruption in some reason. And I don't know what creates it. But in certain parts of the world, that's a way of doing business. I guess Russia's probably that way too.
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Haley Welch
Well, it's a way of life. In some countries, corruption is accepted to a certain, certain degree.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, we're evolved that way, I suppose.
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Haley Welch
You know, there's corruption here, but we do it more delicate.
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Adam Carolla
Well, what we do is we get some folks and they give something a euphemistic name like Green World now and then they vote for somebody and then they break them off a bunch of money and they're non government, whatever. And the Next, you know, 50 million bucks is gone and there's nothing to for it, but everyone's friendly and they had a nice name and the lady seemed nice.
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Haley Welch
Usaid.
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Adam Carolla
That's how we roll over here. So the airliner, the Pablo Escobar airliner thing, as I recall, commercial flight, somebody, he put someone on the flight with an explosive bomb to take out someone who was running for office. Not even in office, I don't think. Was that the story.
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Unknown
So this was back in 1989, after the government of Colombia declared war against Pablo Escobar and the Medellin cartel. And Escobar thought that there would be a political candidate on the airliner, and they put a bomb on the plane, and it killed over 100 people.
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Adam Carolla
He wasn't even on the plane?
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Unknown
No, actually, he cancelled, changed his flight at the last minute, coincidentally. So, yeah, blew up the flight, killed 100 people and killed three on the ground.
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Adam Carolla
And Escobar, I think, told a friend or lieutenant, here, take this suitcase, go. Going on this flight, bring it over there. Like, I don't think the guy blew it up, knew what he was doing.
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Haley Welch
No, I don't think so. I think he was told he was sitting next to an individual and he had a recording device, pressed this because we want to get overhears of his conversation. So the guy didn't know he pressed it.
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Adam Carolla
And so Escobar was the kind of guy that would take out over 100 civilians without thinking about it, without a doubt, to get one guy who wasn't even elected or wasn't even in office, on the off chance the guy was going to end up in a position that could have affected him.
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Unknown
And if you look back in history, too, during that 1989 war with the government, they assassinated Luis Carlos Galan, who would have probably been the next presidential, next president of Colombia. They blew up the DAS building, the Department of Administrative Security, which was the equivalent of the FBI. It killed well over 50 people and wounded 2,200. You know, they also assassinated, back in 1984, the minister of Justice, Rodrigo Lara. So the Medellin cartel in Pablo Escobar was no stranger to acts of violence and terrorism against the government.
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Haley Welch
Yeah. But the Medellin in Cali, they operated differently. Where you would say Medellin cartel, they embedded the word narco terrorism, put fear in the people. But as far as cartel, they invented the word narco democracy because, you know, you get more from honey than you do a stick. You can just bribe people. They were bribing people from, you know, the foot soldier, the foot cop in Cali, in the streets of Cali, all the way up to the president's administration.
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Adam Carolla
And they would build soccer fields and stuff like that. Right.
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Haley Welch
They own the soccer team. They own the Cali soccer team.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah.
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Unknown
So did Pablo. He owned one in Medellin as well.
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Haley Welch
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
So at the end, Pablo ended up shooting it out. Right, Right. Taking it on the run on the roof of a building, trying to think how did it I mean, was that mostly American sort of muscle and power that put an end to that?
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Unknown
No, it was actually the Colombian Search Bloc. So back in the day, the Colombian government, after the war was declared with the Medellin cartel, they formed what they called the Search Bloc. And the Search Block were the special operators in Medellin that consisted of about 600, you know, well armed, specially trained troops. And their job was to go after the biggest and the baddest narcos at that time. Obviously, Pablo Escobar was one of them. And after Pablo had walked out of his, you know, lavish self made prison, the hunt was on for him. And the Search Bloc finally tracked him down to a neighborhood in Medellin and got in a shootout with him on top of the rooftop, which you see very well portrayed in narcos. And he was killed in December of 1993.
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Adam Carolla
So who are the biggest players, cartel wise? Now? Is it gone all? Not all. But has it shifted to Mexico or they still going strong in Central.
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Unknown
Yeah, Mexico basically has the biggest cartels now. They're, you know, several of them were just designated as foreign terrorist organizations as well. So you have the biggest cartels now.
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Adam Carolla
Operating in Mexico, and I know there's a lot of controversy about designating them as terrorist organizations. It seems like they would fit the bill for that. But I don't know what you guys think.
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Haley Welch
I think, no, that might be a good idea, but it would be kind of tough if you want to take any type of military action because no one's wearing a uniform. How are you going to tell the difference between who is who? No.
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Adam Carolla
Right.
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Haley Welch
And then you never know what, you know, the Mexican cartel, they might just go up and, you know, shoot a bunch of civilians and claim the Americans did it.
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Adam Carolla
Right.
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Haley Welch
So we have to be extremely careful.
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Adam Carolla
What do you think of Sheinbaum? Is that the name of the Claudia Sheinbaum?
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. Where's she at? I mean, she seems pretty progressive, so she seems horrible.
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Haley Welch
But.
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Adam Carolla
But I don't know. I don't know how they. Where she came from or what her. I mean, look, I think it's easy to say that, you know, if I, you know, somebody said, take the silver, take the lead, I'll take the lead. I'll fight these cartels real easy. And then you're dead. You know what I mean? So there has to be a sort of nuance to whatever with everything. So I don't know what her relationship is with the cartels or that world.
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Unknown
Well, we're going to see, you know, she's very new in office. She's only been there a few months. So we're going to have to wait and see exactly how that's going to play out. But, you know, initial indications suggest that she's willing to work with the US on the matter. So we'll have to wait and see.
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Adam Carolla
Who were. And so Trump seems very invested in this, and I think a lot of it is the population and the open border, but I think a lot of it's the fentanyl that he was very. Seems to be animated by. And I imagine we could cook up fentanyl here in the United States, but we'd probably shut those labs down if they tried to do it on any kind of scale. Right.
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Haley Welch
Well, the problem in doing this with the drug trade, if you affect one area, they're just going to flow into another area. So if you go after them, you have to cut the head off the snake. But no, you're right. Fentanyl, that is the number one drug crisis right now. Out of one kilogram of fentanyl, you can have 500,000 deaths. So, you know, you have that one little pack when you go to the. Go to the restaurant of the sugar. No, that's one ground.
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Adam Carolla
That's one gram.
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Haley Welch
That's one ground. That will kill 500 people.
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Adam Carolla
Really?
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Haley Welch
Yeah, 500 people that will kill.
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Adam Carolla
It's. And then there's China. And then how, you know, what do we do with China? Because China's bringing the parts over, and then they just assemble them. And Mexico, right. And now we get fentanyl and then they bring it across. You can stiff up the border. But there's also China. What do you do with them?
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Haley Welch
And what they would do. They'll send it to a third country. So everybody's looking for everything coming directly from China. Well, they may send it to another country, and then that country was sent it in. So you have to be vigilant at all times. So it's tough.
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Adam Carolla
And human trafficking. So you could make money through human trafficking by just saying, 5,000 bucks, I'll get you across the border, Pay me, and then go do what you want. And then there's another part where you go, 5,000 bucks. You don't have it, but go over there and work it off. And now sort of indentured servitude, slavery over there. And then there's another one where I go, oh, you're a pretty young girl. We'll bring you over there and then we'll get you into the sex trade. So is it all the above. Is there a fourth one I'm missing?
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Unknown
Well, those are the three main ones for sure. And you see that happening every day.
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Adam Carolla
And how does it work once they're here? Would they get a job at a chicken processing plant or something? Like, where are they working this tab off? I mean, I get the prostitution part. How would one get a construction job and work it off? How does it work?
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Haley Welch
Maybe it's working in Southern drug trade, you know, being a mule taking drugs somewhere or selling the drugs. I don't know. I mean, that's.
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Adam Carolla
So we have a lot of unaccounted for folks over here come over recently, and now Trump wants to fire up ICE and go round these people up. And of course, the sanctuary cities are fighting back against that. It seemed to me to make sense to go after the criminals now. I mean, everyone's a criminal because you're here illegally. But then there's also different sort of strains of criminality, you know, but start with the big and work down to whatever the small version of that is. Does that make sense to you guys?
- [29:58]
Unknown
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we have limited resources in law enforcement, so I think you have to always have a targeted approach and a plan as to what you're doing. And if that is your plan, that's the best way to go about it. Go after the biggest and the baddest people first to try to get them out of there and use your resources wisely.
- [30:15]
Adam Carolla
I'm always kind of confused when people say, oh, these are paid protesters. And I hear it all the time. And I'm also, maybe I'm naive. I'm like, really? There's a syndicate of people that get paid to show up and do stuff, and then who's paying them and then what's in it for them? It sounds very bizarre to me, but do you guys know anything about that? Have you seen some of the protests that have been out here over the weekend?
- [30:42]
Haley Welch
I've just been watching on the news, but that's a very good point. And they all come from different areas, different states. So these guys are professional protesters. And then they come in with bricks. Who's paying for those bricks and who's paying for all the signs?
- [30:56]
Adam Carolla
Well, I mean, there is stuff where they're showing them get dropped off and get face shields out of a truck and stuff like that.
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Haley Welch
That's crazy.
- [31:04]
Unknown
I mean, but they're very well organized too, as well. You see on these chat rooms and these message boards where they're posting things, you know, be here at a certain place at A certain time. And we're going to do the following, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, they are equipped with the same signs or the same pamphlets, the same, you know, face masks and stuff. So there's obviously some organization to it and somewhere, some, somebody is paying for that.
- [31:28]
Adam Carolla
Were any. What's a good hairy story where you had to go in or you're undercover, guns pulled, shots fired, some situations that were sticky, that might be in the.
- [31:41]
Unknown
Book, do the cane field.
- [31:42]
Haley Welch
Well, I say one, because, you know, this book is about our viewpoint on taking down the Catholic cartel. And the reason why we wrote this book is not only highlight the work of the DEA agents and the CIA, but also to give praise to the. To the Colombian security forces, the Colombian national police, the military, because they were the main force. And even to this day, you know, they have thousands of people still dying for this, but, you know, they stand up and for the cause. But one of the one, there's a bunch of little scary hairy moments, but one that stands out is the cane field. So Chris and I, we recruited an informant and we started debriefing him. He was actually the head of security for Miguel Rodriguez Uela. And we made arrangements. We met him before in a cane field. And this cane field was away from Cali A good 45 minutes. So we said, let's meet again.
- [32:39]
Adam Carolla
Sugar cane field.
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Haley Welch
Sugar cane field. So we met again. And the purpose of this meet was for him to give us the photographs and the targeting of the location where Miguel may be. So when we met, we met on the outskirts. And then we saw a bunch of taxi cab drivers, this driving around. Then we saw a bunch of police cars with their lights on. So we said, you know what, let's get a little deeper in the cane field here where they can't see us. So we did. So we're talking about, you know, the raid that we want to do. You know, hey, where is the building? How many people? Where is Miguel's security? And he always had a building that had a mountain on the side. So he thought, no one can come through that side. But all of a sudden we look and there's a van, a Columbia National Police van that pulls up. And, you know, what's running in our mind is Kiki Camareno. How you know, Kiki Camareno was kidnapped at one time and tortured. And you don't know, he might be a rogue cop or the other concern is security of our source, of our confidential informant, because if he is taken in, he's going to be killed. I Mean, we may not be killed. We might be beat up a little, who knows? But he will be killed.
- [33:54]
Adam Carolla
Well, you won't be killed because they recognize you as Americans and they know that it's going to kind of stir up trouble.
- [34:00]
Unknown
But what we were doing, though, we couldn't reveal the fact that we were DEA agents because our source would have been killed immediately. So we had to go through this whole process of. We worked at seat. We were German scientists, you know, we were trying to, you know, work on poverty and crop, alternative, crop development. And like Dave said, the main thing going through our mind is the cops got out, they pointed Uzis at us. They wanted to know what we were there, what we were doing there. And we couldn't reveal the fact that we were DEA agents. And we thought we were going to get grabbed, kidnapped or tortured, whatever. And it was a pretty hairy moment. But we were able to. Not to give away part of the book, but we were able to work our way out of that.
- [34:39]
Haley Welch
Yeah, so. So at one point, what we did, I had like a fanny pack for my gun and everything else. IDs. I threw that in the cane field. Chris threw his in the cane field. So the first thing they do, they separate us. So they had Chris on one side, me and the source on the other side. You know, that. Why are you here? What are you doing? So I had some operational money that I gave to the source. I said, go ahead and pay them off. And he tried to pay him off, and he wouldn't take the money. I'm thinking, holy shit, man. We had the only two honest cops.
- [35:09]
Unknown
In all Columbia we found.
- [35:11]
Haley Welch
So he kept on saying, well, I'm going to take you guys to the police station. So at that point, we know you're not going to take us to the police station. So, I mean, everything is running through our mind. Are we going to have to come and deal with this?
- [35:21]
Adam Carolla
Well, he's not taking the money. So what does that. Well, if he's not taking the money, then wouldn't he take you to the police station if he's honest?
- [35:30]
Haley Welch
Well, this is. Yeah. So we said, hey, you know, and all of a sudden, that came from our source. He goes, it's almost homosexualis. We're homosexuals. I'm going, holy shit. So I'm looking around and the cops kind of look at us. Their eyes get big and they walk over to me and the source, they look at us up and down and kind of shake her head. Then they walk over to Chris. Chris had longer hair. Look at him up and down, and they go, you know, lucky, in agreement. So at that point, they came over, said, hey, give us the money and you guys leave.
- [36:06]
Unknown
That's how we were able to get out of that system.
- [36:08]
Adam Carolla
So they thought it was like three gay dudes going to a cornfield to have some. Exactly. Cane field.
- [36:12]
Unknown
Because these sugar cane fields were in the middle of nowhere. We were, you know, a good 45 minutes to an hour outside of Cali. We were basically in the middle of nowhere. And it was, you know, they wanted to know what we were doing there. So.
- [36:23]
Haley Welch
So I asked the source, I said, I don't know how you come up with that. That's great. He goes, look at Chris's hair. I knew him more.
- [36:29]
Adam Carolla
What happened to that source? Do you keep track of them? Did they retire? Did they get killed? Like, how's it.
- [36:36]
Haley Welch
He's living in the States under a different name now?
- [36:38]
Unknown
He's still in witness protection.
- [36:40]
Adam Carolla
Oh, okay.
- [36:41]
Haley Welch
Yeah.
- [36:42]
Adam Carolla
And are you allowed to, like, I don't know, send him a Christmas card or. It's gotta be. You don't know where he is?
- [36:48]
Unknown
We don't know where he is. We don't know what name he uses. Nothing like that.
- [36:53]
Haley Welch
So we can send it to the marshals, and the marshals will send it to him.
- [36:57]
Adam Carolla
Oh, okay.
- [36:58]
Haley Welch
So the marshals provide that service. Yeah.
- [37:00]
Adam Carolla
And he's just in any state somewhere here.
- [37:03]
Unknown
Could be anywhere.
- [37:04]
Haley Welch
Yep. Could be your next door neighbor.
- [37:07]
Adam Carolla
Is there a lot of that? There must be.
- [37:10]
Unknown
Yeah, there's quite a bit of it.
- [37:11]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. So I mean, if you got some retired guy and he's Colombian and he says he used to make shoes or something and he's next. Or this may be that dude. Right.
- [37:21]
Unknown
You never know. Exactly right.
- [37:23]
Adam Carolla
And so how does one attract a source? Like, how do you turn a guy like that out? How do you even find out? Is he initially part of the police or is he initially part of the cartel? Like, how do you recruit a source like that?
- [37:44]
Unknown
Well, there's various ways that you can do that. Some of the ways are, is that after someone is arrested, they'll cooperate with law enforcement and the US Government to try to get their charges reduced. Right. So if they're arrested for a serious crime and they're looking at 20 years, if they cooperate, they might be able to get their sentence reduced. There's other people who are just pure mercenaries. They do it for the money. And in this instance. And there's other people that they just want to get out of the cartel. They want to get out of whatever criminal organization that they're working for or they know that they're going to be killed. We have several assets that we recruited that were targeted by the cartel for execution. And their only way out was to come and work for law enforcement. Because we can get them out of the country, we can get them into witness security programs and stuff like that. So there's a variety of different ways that we would go about recruiting sources. Some of them is just identifying someone who's important, approaching them and seeing if they would cooperate with us.
- [38:40]
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- [41:04]
Adam Carolla
So when you guys, you're living in the town you're working in, right? I mean and you're in a hotel or where, where are you? You renting a house? Like how does it work?
- [41:17]
Haley Welch
Well, initially we're Embedded with the police and the military. So we're staying at the police base and the military base. But the police, every one of them, though, you know, you had the Cali cartel spies. So one of the liaisons that was with us. And we found out later he was one of the main Cali cartel spies. And then later we started working out of our own safe house. They say safe house, just an apartment. It's not safe. Yeah. So at that point. But we had to be very careful. Because when we drove safe from the police base, going to our safe house, we were always followed. We were followed by the Cali cartel. Not that they want to do any harm to us. They wanted to see who we were going to be meeting. And then they would go after those individuals.
- [42:00]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [42:00]
Haley Welch
So to really go after this, we started working with what's called special units, vetted teams. Because you couldn't work with the police base caused due to the corruption. So, like Chris and I and some others, Jerry Salameh, we would develop leads. And once we got a package, we would bring in those specialized police and military units. And we would just use the military and the police units that were in Cali just for the peripheral, for security.
- [42:30]
Adam Carolla
So is it pretty. Was it, I don't know, understood what you guys were doing there, that you weren't German scientists who are working on crop yields. But they know that you're sort of untouchable because you are American. And they can't risk starting a war with us.
- [42:48]
Unknown
That's part of the problem. That was part of the issue. But first of all, when we were operating in Cali, there was zero American presence. There were no Americans living in Cali. And anytime that anybody saw me or Dave, we were immediately associated as either DEA or CIA operatives. So a lot of the times, the infiltration into the search block units was so bad, we had to move out and get our own safe houses. And during that time, we had to operate almost exclusively at night. Because, I mean, look at. Look at Dave. Dave's six' three. I'm a good six' two and a half. There's no hiding us in Cali.
- [43:22]
Adam Carolla
Right?
- [43:23]
Unknown
There's no camouflaging us anywhere. So we had to work at night and do a lot of our covert stuff at night just so that we wouldn't be seen.
- [43:30]
Adam Carolla
What was it like just in general, walking around as tall, blonde, light Americans, like, just gonna go in for a beer?
- [43:38]
Haley Welch
No, we didn't do that. You had to keep a very low profile. So we didn't even go to the restaurants. Last place we went to, like a bar or a disco, you know, that's just gonna cause problems because we had what was referred to as the Kelly KGB. And what was that? They had say 4,000 up to 5,000 toxic cat drivers. Every taxicab driver had a telephone number. If he saw a gringo like us, he would pick up the phone and call. Now they had people working in the hotels and if you went in. And that was the problem we had with. We had some previous agents who were native Spanish speakers, you know, more dark, complected and fit in. But they were going to the hotels, they had to rent a car. That's where they got them. That's where they got them right there.
- [44:23]
Adam Carolla
Well, what's got them mean? We made them.
- [44:25]
Haley Welch
That's where they were made. So for us, we took a photograph of them. Yeah, took a photograph of them. So from that point, we were staying. We were embedded. Either embedded with the military or the police, or we were working out safe houses. And we didn't go around, driving around where we can be seen. Like he said, we only operated at night.
- [44:41]
Adam Carolla
Are these guys ultimately like super motivated and accomplished business people who are like an, you know, a James Bond villain, where the guy's a genius, but he's using it for evil? You know, I mean, it seems. I mean, I find that the cartels and crime in general are sort of the most pragmatic people in the world, like criminals. Like, I would tell people all the time, I'd go, you don't have to make your house into Fort Knox, just do enough to it where they walk to the next house like the path of least resistance. Years ago, when I had a pickup truck and I lived out here and the only good thing I owned was a Sony digital stereo in it, I just spray painted it brown. And everybody made fun of me. And then I told everyone, they go, why'd you paint your stereo brown? I said, I don't want it stolen. And then they would go, why? How's that gonna stop it? I go, no, it's not gonna stop it. That guy's gotta sell it. That guy's not putting it in his truck. He sells it, he's gotta sell it now for drugs right now. And you can't sell a Sony digital stereo that's painted brown. You won't get anything for it. So I just made my stereo a little less attractive, and the person looked in, saw it and went to the next truck. I got my truck stolen two times. They left the stereo back when all they did was steal stereos. That's all they did in LA in the 80s is steal your stereo, right? I got my truck stolen two times. I put a fuel cutoff switch in it, so I found it up the street each time. But they left the stereo because I desecrated it. But they went somewhere that was a little easier and they. That's how they. That's how they do it. So I feel like these guys are like just like water flowing down a hill. They'll just take any direction.
- [46:45]
Haley Welch
Yeah. If you look at the Kelly Cartel, which the book is about, they were worldwide. I mean, they had tentacles going into Russia, Europe, South Africa, Asia. So I mean, besides, you know, of course, United States, every major city they're involved in. So if you look at the amount of people that was employed by the Cali Cartel, it was one of the most sophisticated drug organizations that has ever been in existence.
- [47:15]
Adam Carolla
Where are they that we never think about. So, you know, when you live in the United States, you're a little centric to the United States. You just, you know, somebody goes, this band is the biggest band in Central America or something. I never heard of them. Who cares? You know what I mean? We just don't care. I don't care if you're selling out soccer stadiums somewhere else. You got to come here and do it. And some of it is earned, but some of it's like we're about the United States. So then we think about drugs and cartels and how it affects us. But who are some of the other countries and nations that where they have a real presence and they gotta deal with it. Now I would guess that you take Southern California, Los Angeles, the border town, it's half Hispanic, so no one's gonna stand out like you guys stand out when you go out. Right. But also there's a version of that in China and Russia where you would stand out if you were of Latin descent. I don't know if you could stroll through China and do what you wanted. So you would have to recruit Chinese to. To work there. But what are some of like, is America number one in terms of drugs and cartels and being impacted by then human trafficking? But then who's number two? Is Canada number two?
- [48:42]
Unknown
Well, now I would say Europe. Europe, because, you know, drugs in Europe now are more expensive than they are in the United States. So I would definitely say Europe. But to get back to your point too, they're always looking for in the path of least resistance was a perfect analogy where there were some of the routes that they would use into West Africa. Right. The Ivory Coast, Guinea Bissau, some of these areas where you would never in your wildest dreams think that you would have Colombian cocaine drug trafficking cells. But they would go there because of these new and emerging markets. And they knew that there was no presence there. And a lot of the security forces were easily corruptible. So at this point in time, you see these drug trafficking cells in just about every country throughout the world.
- [49:27]
Adam Carolla
And are they here? We're fairly tolerant of crime, more so than I would say China or Russia, where, you know, they might just kill you. Right. So do they sort of have to pussyfoot a little bit in places where they know. Like here we just had this whole thing with this Maryland dad who was drugs or doing trafficking, but half our politicians came out in defense of him politically. Here we'll fight for you no matter what you do or what cartel you're with. Well, we have at least half the country's gonna be on your side. China, I don't think they're gonna tolerate you over that.
- [50:14]
Unknown
There's several countries like that, Singapore as well.
- [50:17]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [50:18]
Unknown
They're not gonna tolerate that. I mean, you'll be executed. A lot of the Muslim countries in the Middle east as well, you're arrested at drug trafficking over there, you're executed and, you know, you have a trial and you're executed immediately. So there's a lot of countries why they stay away from and why they don't have that drug problem.
- [50:35]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I mean, more path of least resistance stuff. I don't get why. We don't really understand that. But yeah, you go to Singapore, you get caught, you get executed. And boy, before you know it, people stop trying to set up shop in Singapore.
- [50:50]
Unknown
That's right. And what do these cartels want? They want money, so they're gonna go where the demand is. Whereas the demand right now, it's in.
- [50:56]
Adam Carolla
The United States, United States and Europe, more so. But United States bigger.
- [51:03]
Unknown
Correct.
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Haley Welch
Right.
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Adam Carolla
Is it? And why more so? Why do you think more so the United States and Europe than, you know, Middle east or Russia or the aforementioned Singapore?
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Haley Welch
Well, I think one of the things that makes the United States different is because of big pharma. I mean, everything. If you look, turn on the tv, you know, if you have a backache, take a pill. If you have a knee ache, take a pill. We are so used to just taking a pill, you know, just to cure whatever you have. Where the Mexican cartels are taking advantage of that and they are making fake.
- [51:44]
Adam Carolla
Pills through fentanyl Oh, I see.
- [51:47]
Haley Welch
And when they take these pills, you know, they're. If it has more than a certain amount of 2 million milligrams, you know, they're dying. So where in the old days, say in the late 70s or so in New York, what was the problem? It was heroin. So the heroin had a really negative stigma to it. And you had. If you wanted to go buy heroin, you really had to drive into the bad parts of the town. People were injecting in their veins. But what do they do now? They can get on a social platform and order it, and we'll come right to their house and they take it in pill form. Where you don't have that negative stigma like you did with heroin in the old days.
- [52:28]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, well, we've miscalculated a few things as it pertains to drugs, which is we sort of went, look, if you want drugs, you're gonna find drugs. We can't stop you.
- [52:38]
Unknown
That's.
- [52:39]
Adam Carolla
I don't know. I think we all have had the experience of, like, really, let's say, craving a food. Or you just go, man, I'm trying to think of where I was the other day, but, like, I want an In N Out burger. And then someone goes, it's closed. And you go, all right, I'm going to bed. You know, you can be talked. I don't get my car and drive to Nevada to get an in and out burger. It's two. The one in the Glendale's closed. Then I'm sorry, I'm not doing it. You can be dissuaded if things are just a little bit difficult. And I think in general, that's kind of people's wiring. Now. There's the hardcore person that is gonna get in their car and drive to Nevada to get a hamburger. But that's a small percentage. Most folks won't. And, yeah, we had this sort of thing that the drugs weren't the problem and availability wasn't the problem. It's that we needed to talk people out of wanting to do it. But all these experimental San Francisco clean needle exchange safe zones to shoot up and stuff, it turns into a shit show in 10 minutes, right?
- [53:48]
Haley Welch
Absolutely.
- [53:49]
Adam Carolla
And we have a picture of our culture. I think the left does. That's not our culture, which is. I'd always say we think, like, we're gonna take that plastic pumpkin on Halloween and we're gonna say we're out of town. But just limit yourself to one Snickers bar, kids. And the first kid comes in and just dumps it. Right in the sack. And second kid sees it's empty and kicks it through the window and they leave. That's who we are. I wish we were the take the one Snicker bar and if we were, then this stuff would work. But we're not. So we need DEA agents and cops and ICE in force.
- [54:32]
Unknown
There's got to be consequences for your actions.
- [54:34]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, and I think we're starting to learn that. I don't know where we're at in terms of behavior, but people will sort of do what they can get away with.
- [54:51]
Unknown
That's right.
- [54:51]
Adam Carolla
And that's a weird and sad. It's a sad state, but that's where we're at. So with that in mind, we need a presence in enforcement.
- [55:01]
Unknown
It's just like little kids, they're going to push the envelope and see what they can get away with. And the more they get away with, the more they're going to try to do. So if there's no consequences, they're going to keep going.
- [55:09]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, well, California has a big problem with the homeless because we've made it hospitable here. So people who are in different states or it's not hospitable. Hospitable go. Well, we're gonna go where the gettings good, which is here. And thus we'll have more homeless. And that's the way human nature works.
- [55:28]
Haley Welch
Yeah, but you're right. I think we need more education because if there's a demand, we need to education. And don't go after the high schoolers or middle school kids. Go out to the kids that are in the second and third grade, you know, because they're being exposed. Let's go after the youngest of these kids. Well, you know, let's try to teach them.
- [55:45]
Adam Carolla
You bring up an interesting point, maybe a little inadvertently with the pills and the pharmaceuticals, which is, yes, they are making knockoff pharmaceuticals, but also it's a mentality of pharmaceutical. Pharmaceutical mentality. So you guys, just for a fun experiment, just turn on daytime tv. Just watch the View. You may not. It may be painful, but watch review. And then when they go to the commercial break pharma right in. Next thing, pharma right in. And then switch all over to Mike and Kelly in the morning or whatever and watch it. Pharma, I mean, I don't. You know what's weird is I don't watch daytime TV because I get up and I have a job and it's mindless anyway. But if you do go out on the road and you travel a lot and you do a lot of shows, which I do. Do you find yourself waking up on a Friday and turning on the TV in the hotel room because you're not getting up, having to go to work, so on and so forth. And you watch these shows you would never watch. And the one theme they have is pharma. Pharma, Pharma. That's all this. So now people are sort of of the mindset of, I need to take a pill to absolutely fix something or alter something or cure something. You know, and, you know, when we were kids, it was, you know, rub some dirt on it, go outside, whatever. You know, just sort of shake it off.
- [57:15]
Unknown
That's right.
- [57:16]
Adam Carolla
Lock it off. I didn't. I was telling somebody the other day that when I blew my knee out when I was about 19 or 20, I got limped back to my apartment. I sat down. There wasn't a Tylenol or an aspirin in the apartment. I needed knee surgery. It just sort of wrote it out like, I was like, ah, it's gonna be a tough night because there's nothing.
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Haley Welch
And Adam, you know, all that kind of changed in 1985. In 1985, it was now legal for big Pharma to actually go out to the citizens on the street. And before, they didn't have all these commercials, but starting 1985, that's when they were. It was legal to have commercials focusing on the citizens.
- [58:03]
Adam Carolla
We need that one where they're playing softball just because we got it here. The side effects are now 5, 8 of the commercials. Potential side effects. But so Jardians. So what it is, is I didn't have a mindset of I need to take something to change something or to fix something or to cure something. My thing was like, it's gonna be a shitty night. You'll wake up and you'll be fine. Go get a suck off the hose and you'll be fine. Okay, so now you have a alter. And in general, we're getting a little philosophical, but I'm saying it need to alter, which is that. Who drank a cup of coffee when you're 15? When I was growing up, kids didn't drink coffee. Old people start your growth. Yeah, you would never have a coffee. Why would you? Energy drinks, all the stuff that's infused with this and infused with that, here's how it makes you feel. And then. And it's a kind of. And we're all guilty of it. You go, like, I need a cup of coffee so I can get going here. You know, I'M getting tired, you know. So it's a general alteration and when, if you open yourself up to alteration, then it's alteration all the time because eventually it's going to be Saturday night and it's time to really get altered. So the pharma in the sort of mentality where I as I would guess maybe like the Japanese culture, which probably didn't have that energy drinks and coffee and ups and downs and now this to mellow out, you know, like we're just, we're taking ourselves and we're just altering ourselves all day essentially.
- [59:51]
Haley Welch
Exactly. And then you, like you said, you turn on the TV and you just see where, you know, whatever your ailments is, Take a pill.
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Adam Carolla
I'm gonna play this great commercial just because of the elements. And it's a musical too, which I, which I have type 2 diabetes, but.
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Haley Welch
I manage it well. It's a little pill with a big story to tell.
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Adam Carolla
I take one's daily jotting at each day start.
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Chris Feistel
As time went on, it was easy.
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Adam Carolla
To see I'm lowering my A1C.
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Unknown
And for adults with type 2 diabetes and known heart disease, Jardians can lower the risk of cardiovascular death too.
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Serious side effects include increased ketones in blood or urine, which can be fatal. Stop Jardians and call your doctor right away if you have nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, tiredness, trouble breathing or increased ketones. Jardians may cause dehydration that can suddenly worsen kidney function and make you feel dizzy, lightheaded or weak upon standing. Genital yeast infections in men and women, urinary tract infections, low blood sugar or a rare life threatening bacterial infection between and around the anus and genitals can occur. Call your doctor right away if you have fever or feel weak or tired and pain, tenderness, swelling or redness in the genital area. Don't use if allergic to jardians. Stop use if you have a serious allergic reaction. Call your doctor if you have rash, swelling, difficulty breathing or swallowing. You may have increased risk for lower limb loss. Call your doctor if you have new pain or tenderness, sores, ulcers or infection in your legs or feet.
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Adam Carolla
First off, God bless lawyers. When these pharmaceutical commercials first hit in the 80s, it was probably just talk to your doctor. Now back to our Then every year they added a new one. Added a new one. I always say it's like the sign at the beach and what you can't do, they never take one off. They just add a new thing that you cannot do on the beach. This is incredible. How long that was.
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Unknown
But look at all the side effects. But look how happy everybody looks in the commercials, right? They're all singing, they're smiling, they're dancing.
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Haley Welch
But what happens when you go to your general practitioner? And like, I just went to one and my triglycerides were a little high. They didn't say, hey, what's your diet? Do you work out? What do you do? They said, oh, we gotta put you on statin. Yeah, I'm not going on statin. Because so what I did, you know, you just exercise, you walk, you eat less, you lose weight. Triglycerides went down.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah, listen, every. Everything. I mean, you're a certified nutritionist, a workout expert, and a pharmacy, and it's all in your head. Just hike, listen to classical music, drink water, don't eat processed shit. Get some exercise, have a laugh, have a friend, have a dog. Roll around the dirt a little bit. Don't be hypochondriac. You're fine, you're fine. But it's no business for them.
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Unknown
But again, we go back to the path of least resistance, right? Who wants to work out? Who wants to watch what they eat? It's so much easier to be able to get some pill and take it and have your problem solved. And that's what we've evolved into.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. And they. They've got it. And that's their business. And it's the doctor's business, too. And now we've sort of created this thing, money, which essentially, the cartels all. I mean, look, if you said they're the cartels. Look, you're not gonna have to assassinate any dignitaries, and you're not gonna have to bribe any cops, and you don't have to take little kids and put them into prostitution. But we'll still give you the same money. They'd go, yeah, okay, that's fine. I'll just take the money. They're just willing to do stuff that other people aren't willing to do. But if you just said, we'll give you the money, minus all the death and corruption and ODing, they'd probably enjoy that. They'd say, fine. And that's basically where we're at. The money. And they'll just do. Look, you can get. You can pay a celebrity to endorse something that they don't use or take or ingest or whatever for the money. So the person understands that, well, maybe I'm being a little disingenuous. I don't use this product. But I'll talk about it, because you'll get me paid. And we don't look at them as evil, but they're doing something they wouldn't do for free. And then at the top of the chain, you got drug cartels and blowing up airplanes. It's just money. We just stop at a certain point, Right?
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Haley Welch
Yeah. I think statins is one of the biggest moneymakers, you know, that the big pharmacy has. But, you know, one of my fears, too, is that with these fraudulent pills, the fake pills, because with the kids in school, you know, they want to make better grades or they can, you know, advance. A lot of them are taking the ADHD medicine where Adderall. A lot of these, the Adderall and everything else. You're not taking Adderall. You're taking Fentanyl. So you're going to have a lot of these kids dying thinking they're taking Adderall.
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Adam Carolla
Well, that's the other thing, too. It's like you're trying out for an Olympic sport, and everyone else is juicing. You feel like they have an edge, and you want to get that edge, too. And now we're getting back to that. I mean, that's essentially Ozempic. You know, women look at other women that are on zempic and go, that bitch is juicing. And I'm up here struggling. Why she get the easy route? Ozempic is basically testosterone for women in that that's your competition, and they have an unfair advantage because they're juicing. And so now I'm gonna do it. And, you know, in a weird way, it's kind of hard to talk them out of it. Cause in a sense, if that's your competition and you're struggling and they're looking good, maybe the joke's on you. All right, an interesting note to go out on the book name. After Escobar taking down the notorious Cali Godfathers and the biggest drug cartel in history, it's going to be out June 24th. Thanks for coming in, guys. Thanks for the book and the swag.
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Haley Welch
We'd also like to have a shout out to one of our corroborators on this. Jessica Balboa. Boney, please. No, she's, you know, she helped us write the book and fine tune it, so, I mean, it reads just like a crime novel. So it's. It's a very good read.
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Adam Carolla
But it's all true.
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Haley Welch
It's all true. Every bit's true. Every bit's true.
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Adam Carolla
All right, guys, thanks for the time. We'll take a quick break, and we'll bring in Rudy, we'll do some news right after this. Oh, oh, oh, O'Reilly Auto Parts. Yeah, it's the softer side of the Ace, man. Well, they're good and they're in the business of keeping your car on the road. O'Reilly Auto Parts offers friendly, helpful service and the parts knowledge you need for for all your maintenance and repairs, always used. O'Reilly just drove past the old one up on Foothill I used to go to all the time. Just did that yesterday actually. That's out and about. So whether you're a car aficionado or an auto novice, you'll find the employees at O'Reilly Auto Parts are knowledgeable, helpful and best of all, they are friendly. So what do you do? Well, you stop by on O'Reilly Auto Parts, you do it today or you Visit us@o'reillyauto.com Adam that's o'reillyauto.com Adam Rosetta Stone, Summer's here and maybe you're traveling, maybe you're just sitting by the pool. Either way, why not use that downtime to actually learn something useful like a new language? Rosetta Stone makes it easy. I mean, imagine going on vacation and actually being able to order food without pointing at the menu like a caveman. That's the way the cave people used to order food. That's called progress, folks. Rosetta Stone is so good. Dr. Drew always tells me he speaks very fluent French, good accent and everything else. But his wife, mm, mm. And he got Rosetta Stone for her and tuned her up before they went to France. Worked perfectly, accent and all. Rosetta Stone, well, it's been the gold standard for 30 years. Millions of people, 25 languages, the true accent. By the way, it's technology that actually helps you sound less like a tourist and more like you know what you're doing. It's all and little bite sized lessons fits in your schedule and you can use it on your phone or desktop. So no excuses. It's Rosetta Stone, right, Dawson?
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Adam Carolla
Today.
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Rudy Povich
Here'S a memorable moment from the Adam Corolla Show's ACE Awards archives for.
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Unknown
The police to come into the school.
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Adam Carolla
And pick up the kid in the parents. We Agree. That's the part we agree on.
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Dawson
Too much.
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Adam Carolla
It's too much.
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Chris Feistel
Why are we going back to square?
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Adam Carolla
She's such a problem solver. Who's a better problem solver, her or Gavin Noosa? So we've gotten rid of the predatory check cashing places. That was Gavin's thing. And then her thing is violence in the inner city, in the classroom. Problem solved.
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Chris Feistel
We're cleaning up today.
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Adam Carolla
Yes. This is what politicians do. Nothing.
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Rudy Povich
The 2025 ACE Awards coming this December. Now back to the Adam Carolla Show.
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Adam Carolla
Was that Maxine Waters?
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Rudy Povich
That was Maxine Waters from 2015.
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Adam Carolla
You do understand that, like, a lot of our politicians are over 85 and unstable mentally and just walk around going, I don't know what's happening with things, but I'm like, weird and angry and volatile and half dead and just making policy.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah. You know what's funny is how old is that Gavin Newsom interview? It's gotta be 12 years old now.
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Adam Carolla
Something like that.
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Chris Feistel
It's funny because every time I go out and people, you know, they hear about that we're chummy together, they always go, did you ever listen to his interview with Gavin Newsom? And I'm like, yeah, it's iconic. It lives in the annals of history. Is one of the best ever.
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Adam Carolla
I find myself thinking about it all the time. And then I also. And not about the interview per se, but I sort of find myself thinking about stuff. Like I think about the same thoughts. It seems a little Asperger Y and it's like obsessive or something. But I'm sort of vexed in thought things in life. Like, I was. I was. Somebody tweeted me. I don't know. Andrew over there was telling me about the whatever region in Philadelphia, and it's just homeless drug addicts just sort of in a catatonic state, like sort of zombie style. Yeah. Turn your mic down a little. There you go. There you go. Dawson loves it. Okay. I don't know what it is that puts you into that state where you sort of lean over and put your forehead on your knees and then just sort of freeze that way for extended periods of time. It's Kensington Philadelphia that I was looking at. And it's people just handing out syringes and bent over and either dead or almost dead on the ground. And people in that weird thing where you bend over, it's essentially you try to touch your toes, but your knees bend a little and you just freeze out and everyone's just passed out like a zombie in the street, on the ground, head. I mean, it's really as sad as human existence gets.
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Chris Feistel
That looks like the worst yoga class ever, right?
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Adam Carolla
Yes. Yeah. And it's just junkie after junkie after junkie passed out on the ground and in some weird state where they're unable to function and they're shooting each other in the back. I don't know, it's gross. It's sort of humanity sort of flopped out everywhere. I'm sure women are prostituting themselves, men are prostituting themselves, crime, whatever. And it's just a shit show. It's just an utter, you know, nothing more depressing than this, okay? And it's all adults. They're all fucked up. They're all bent over and they're all on drugs. And then I think back on Gavin Newsom explaining to me about the mom with the full time job and just divorced. And he's trying to explain to me what homelessness was. And I was like, it's drugs, it's drugs, it's just drugs. And he's going, no, no, but what about the real, the true face, the real face? And I'm like, but that doesn't exist. And then I start thinking about that all the time. Like, I don't know what we're doing. I have no idea. I drive around this town and there are people in the right lane and they never use their blinker. So I don't know if they're turning right or not turning right. And cars are going by, and then cars stop going by, and then at some point the signal changes and they turn right. And I'm like, just turn right. You can turn right. You can turn right. Everyone wake up. You can turn. It's legal, it's safe, it's legal, it's safe. I don't know what you're doing. You could put that on the electronic freeway sign. Just turn right. And it would be a huge impact in terms of traffic in this city. And we don't. We just do click it or ticket and people go, whoa, whoa, who cares? And I go, there's all this information. We could do like a full frontal frontal assault on use your blinker and turn right. But we don't. We never even bring it up. And people don't know what the fuck they're doing and they don't know how to drive. And they just sit there and they just clog it all up. And I find myself honking at people constantly. Go, go. And they're like, huh, Okay. I don't know. Why don't you know this. It's traffic everywhere. This would help get the message out. Put it on the sign.
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Chris Feistel
I don't understand why people don't want to help themselves. Just help yourself. Like, when it comes to traffic or. The biggest issue I've always had in a corporate setting is people with the coffee pot. Why do you take the empty coffee pot and put it on the goddamn hot burner, and then it leaves that.
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Adam Carolla
Film on the bottom and the coffee tastes like shit.
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Chris Feistel
Why would you not get rid of the coffee pot? Do something about it?
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Adam Carolla
They'll take a mayonnaise jar or mustard container that's bone empty and just go right back into the fridge. And what at the workplace is, you don't get a new one because people look at the yellow container and they go, all right, we're good with mustard. We're lousy with mustard. Yeah, people. Here's what I would argue. People sleepwalk and they don't care. But nobody puts the empty coffee pot back onto the hot warmer at their own house.
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Chris Feistel
Never.
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Adam Carolla
And nobody. Nobody blows up a burrito in their own microwave and walks away. So we have two different standards here, my friend. And my argument is the two. I don't mind the part where you're just fucking Blutkowski. Blutarski. Sorry, from Animal House. Look, you want to blow up your. You blow up your microwave, and my microwave, fine. But I think you treat your shit differently.
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Chris Feistel
Wildly different, yes.
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Adam Carolla
I do not like the chasm.
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Chris Feistel
No. Also, the other big one there was our setting at the radio station back in Minneapolis.
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Adam Carolla
The radio station.
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Chris Feistel
Worst human beings you've ever worked with.
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Adam Carolla
The worst.
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Chris Feistel
I literally had to etch into the side of my headphones my shit don't touch. Three weeks later, guess who walks into his locker one day, headphones gone, never to be found again.
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Adam Carolla
You know, I hadn't thought about it, but one of the first gifts that Jimmy Kimmel bought me was a set of these Sony headphones. Probably like.
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Chris Feistel
Exactly. Those are the best headphones in America.
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Adam Carolla
Well, I can't compare them to anything because that's the standard. That's what everyone did. And so I'm at the radio station. I'm at kroq, one of the biggest stations in the world. And, you know, Jack's there getting paid hundreds of thousands a year and so on. And so there's millionaires walking around that place. And he gets me my own. I haven't thought about this story in 30 years. He gets me a set of headphones like, now you're in radio, my friend. You know, like Excalibur sword. You know, he pulled it out and he bequeathed it to me.
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Chris Feistel
Kind of a leather bag.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. Came in a little pouch. And I go, yeah, okay, thanks. He goes, do not leave these around. You take these home with you. You protect these cards. You get an armed escort and walk them out to your car at night. I'm like, why? And they will be stolen immediately. And I go, what's just a bunch of rich white people here? Like, what do they need? They got their own headphones. Wait a minute. I can't leave my headphones just open in this cubbyhole. No, no, you take them home. And I was like, what the fuck's wrong with everyone around here that they would steal? Oh, they will steal it.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah, absolutely. And the biggest problem you ran into was when they, the morning show would have celebrity guests in and they would. Their guests would bring a guest that was unannounced. So then they needed an extra pair of headphones. And then they would go, grab your headphones, let whoever it is, you know, the tertiary character on the show, wear those headphones. And then they would just sit there. Nobody would put them back. And then the next show, the afternoon show, would come in and go, whose headphones are these? Oh, they don't need to be here. And then they just take them and they throw them somewhere out in the lobby and then somebody grabs them. They're never to be heard from again.
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Adam Carolla
Radio people. And let's not get started with the radio station fridge and the food, because, oh, man, that's when it really kicks.
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Chris Feistel
If you want to see people have no self control, just wait until that email comes out, the mass email that goes out to every employee of the radio station. Free food in the commissary. And watch everybody on a diet or everybody who's been trying to cut back on the carbs. The second that email comes, we could literally sit by the office that was right next to where the kitchen was and you could count it down. Second everybody got that email. Free food in the commissary was like five, four, three. You'd get to one and the whole door would open with just the. Nobody's got any self control in radio. For whatever reason, there's something about free.
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Adam Carolla
Food and radio, which is weird because when you have a job and you're like a roofer, like your family would do, or construction or something, you're really working. And then free food's a big deal, but you don't feel entitled to it. But sitting in air conditioning and Talking. I don't. You work up a man sized hunger like just blow veining into a microphone like you're not burning a lot of calories. Why do you need all the free grub? But the greatest, the greatest part about any. I wish someone had started a coffee table book that just said 90s radio station, common fridge notes. Because I'd love pulling up to that fridge and it'd be like, dear asshole, I had half a yoplait lemon custard in here and now it's gone. So to the maniac that took it or ate it or threw it out, you can fuck it right off. Like so freaked out that somebody threw away their half a burrito that was left behind or. Or ate it. There's a lot of eating of other people's food absolutely in there. It always made me laugh.
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Chris Feistel
I had a great moment. Sometimes you have to be taught the right way. And we had the soda machine that had the little manila envelopes that if you lost your 50 cents to get a can of Diet Coke, you could put your name on it. And then they would put the 50 cents in, tape it back to the vending machine, you get your 50 cents back. I lost 50 cents to the vending machine and I'm filling it out and I'll never forget it. The morning show guy, his name was Weasel. Because everybody's gotta have a weird name like that. He walks in, he goes, what are you doing? I said, I'm getting my. It took my change. And he goes, what is your time worth? Your time is for 50 cents. You're really gonna. Jesus Christ, you make like 50k a year here. What are you talking about, 50 cents? And I went, oh, yeah, you're right. Never again have I ever. If I lose $2 to a vending machine now. I'm sorry, I guess it just. I've gotten more than my fair share of free shit in this world.
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Adam Carolla
Taking financial advice from a guy named Weasel there, buddy. All right, what's in the news?
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Chris Feistel
All right, so this is a big one. I know you're gonna have some thoughts about this. A study published on Friday revealed just how many times reporters and anchors on cable news outlets CNN and MSNBC referred to the violent protests and riots in Los Angeles as peaceful protests were called peaceful 211 times. CNN aired more than half of that 123. With the other mentions coming from MSNBC at 88.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, because this is what they would like. And it's hard to. We've now crossed some Rubicon where there's no, we can no longer separate what you want or your feelings from whatever the story is or whatever the event is and however it unfolded. And there used to be a strong sort of a mandate to do that. Like there was a kind of a thing where you had to keep your own feelings out of certain jobs. Because I think that job was, you know, you were in an umpire. And you know, if you're an umpire, every umpire, I mean, let's, let's put it to you this way. Every major league umpire who's ever worked loves baseball. That's how you become a major league umpire. We tried to play maybe a flamed out in college or something. Then you got, you know, doing triple A or something. You're an umpire because you love umpiring and you love baseball. You had to love baseball. You know, no nine year old dreams of becoming an umpire. They want to play center field for the Yankees, but you have a dream of as a baseball. Okay. None of these guys just grew up in some Nordic town in some Nordic country that grew up in Cleveland and they grew up in Philly, that grew up in la, that grew up in San Francisco. They all grew up somewhere. And if so if you're a young kid and you're die hard fan of baseball, then you're die hard fan of the team you grew up with. And that was somewhere until you were, you know, 18 or 20 or whenever you moved out of that town. But you're that dude. You love the Brewers.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Okay. That's your team. And everybody has their team. And it's like, well, I like the Dodgers, but I wasn't a massive baseball fan. But if you're massive enough baseball fan to be a baseball umpire, then you were big in your team. Yeah. Okay. Then those guys go to the stadium, wherever it is, could be their home stadium, could be away. Not only do you have your team, but you have your team's nemesis. You know, that Dodgers, they hated the Giants and the Yankees, you know, and then there's all the rivalries that go the other direction. Fine. So that nine year old boy is now standing behind the plate at age 55 and he's. His team may be at bat. Yeah. Or on the mound. Or it could be the ninth inning or it could be a crucial game or the World Series. He does not show up to the stadium in his team's jersey. He'd immediately be reprimanded and thrown out of baseball. He can't do it. And he could make no allusions to any of it. Yeah, he can't even do anything. He can't even put on that cap.
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Chris Feistel
Can't in the middle of a pitch, do the tomahawk chop. None of that.
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Adam Carolla
I will bet you by knowing nothing but knowing everything, that with Major league umpires, there's a whole laundry list of, I don't care if it's Sunday during the off season, you cannot put that fucking Marlins hat on and go down to the pub and have a few beers. You cannot. You can display nothing. If Tommy Lasorda's brother's doing a book signing across the street from your house, you can't go over there and wait in line. You cannot. There can be no sense of impropriety with any of this. And that's how news used to be. But then, wow, we went, fuck it. Now, my theory, people argue with me, but I'm always right. We got a lot more women involved. Not only in front of the camera, but behind the camera, next to the camera, in the editorial booths and all copywriters, we got an influx of women. Women are not as skilled at keeping it close to the vest. When they don't like somebody or they're vehemently against abortion, or they're vehemently for abortion or whoever it is, they don't do a good job of having a poker face. Yeah, whatever Lady Gaga says, I don't believe that bitch in her poker face. So now you got a lot more women in this area. I mean, Walter Cronkite was Walter Cronkite and his staff probably looked like when they go to those guys, the Apollo mission, and they'd show the guys at NASA and it was just the same white dude with the horn rimmed glasses and the thin tie, and it was white dude after white dude. Back in the day, you know, when those newscasters were sitting at their desk in 1968, they're probably just looking at a sea of those guys, right? So now it's tons of females. And females got feelings. They like stuff they don't like. Trump.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Or they do.
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Chris Feistel
And if they do, then it's time to hit the road, sister. You got to get out.
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Adam Carolla
They're not going to sit on their feelings. And dudes who grow up in that, they don't grow up storming the beach of Normandy. They don't grow up in a logging camp. They go to fucking college and they're pussies and they think like chicks and they cross their legs like chicks. Well, we're gonna get more and more of how they feel. And so they. And also It's a really self selecting group. Like you go, you know, I don't know, why are all publicists either chicks or gay? I don't know, it attracts them. Regular dudes don't want to be a publicist. It's a shit demeaning job for a dude. But Howie Long wouldn't have wanted to be a publicist because it's a shit job. That's demeaning. But it's attracting or nursery school teachers, young women, okay, firemen, men. Certain jobs attract certain groups. Journalism school at college, I mean that is a progressive, educated group. So you're already turning out a bunch of like minded people and then they're not going to be able to keep their opinions to themselves and they're going to start, they're going to start doing tents, shades, degrees, like little bits and pieces like Andrew, what was that like? You know, they'll do it, they'll do it like this all time. They'll go, there'll be a headline on USA Today or New York Times or LA Times and they'll go, trump claims falsely the election was tampered with. And it's like, you don't have to put falsely Trump claims. Trump is claiming that the election was tampered with. Like I may have been claiming that the earth is flat, or I claim to be the greatest comedian of all time. Or Evel Knievel claims to be the greatest entertainer of all time. The greatest dare. Evel Knievel claims to be the greatest daredevil of all time. But they don't write Evel Knievel falsely acclaimed. So where's the falsely come in, by the way? How do you know it's falsely? You just said Hunter Biden's laptop was not real. You know what I mean?
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
So when they start editorializing and they start adding things, you can go, oh, because the news is I claimed I was raped by P. Diddy, but not falsely. You can't add, you may not believe me, but you don't know. And by the way, that's not the story. The story's, I claim that I was raped. Evel Knievel falsely claims P. Diddy raped him. No, the story's Evel Knievel claims P. Diddy raped him. That's your newsline.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah. Evil would never let that happen. He would be doing the raping in that scenario.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, he's on top. Oh yeah, he's always on top.
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Chris Feistel
Power, top and bottom. That's how badass evel knievel is.
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Adam Carolla
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Chris Feistel
Women in Journalism. I know we talked about this the other day, but I definitely want to give a shout out to Liz Collins from Minnesota in her documentary the Fall of Minneapolis. Oh, yeah, it's amazing. I just rewatched it a couple of days ago. I love everything and especially it's one thing to have a voice like Liz Collins in Texas or in Florida, but the fact that she has a voice like that in such a progressive state, it really takes a lot of balls.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, I got thoughts on that. What is. Yeah, it's baseless and unfounded. What was the story? It was attached to Andrew. That's what I was trying to figure out. They'll do a lot of baseless claims and unfounded that they do. But again, the claim is the election was tampered with. You adding baseless. Well, we don't know because we've not investigated this. But by the way, even if we did know, that's not your job.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. What was that? That was our. It was because Trump was claiming that there was genocide in South Africa, but they added baseless claims. But the problem is Trump is claiming that there's genocide in South Africa. Okay, let's find out if there's genocide in South Africa. But you added baseless or unfounded. And now I know not to listen to you when you're talking about Trump because you're not calling balls and strikes anymore. You know, it was funny. God. I mean, think about this, Think about this. So the story was of Derek Chauvin and the whole trial and the whole mess and how they cooked everything and what they tried to did and fentanyl levels and George Floyd, blah, blah, blah. And you know what? It's funny. I was in Home Depot today, and for some reason, it came up with Dr. Drew. And I said, look, imagine your fate as a cop. Your fate as a cop. Now, as a cop, probably the worst thing that can happen to you is spend your life in jail as a cop, right? And then you go, well, how would you get to jail? And it's like, well, let's say you killed somebody, all right? And you had to go to jail, all right? But imagine this, and it's all optics. But think about this. Derek Chauvin shows up late to an event where George Floyd was put in the car, said he couldn't breathe, got pushed out of the car, so on and so forth. And he just gets a call and he shows up. I know it's any given Tuesday afternoon from him, and he's trying to do crowd control. And this guy's on his back and his knee looks like he's cutting off his windpipe, but it's not in the corner says he's got fentanyl in this thing and everything, but the whole town's gonna burn unless you go to jail for the rest of your life. So the coroner, the coroner, the mayor, the da, Everyone will just go in on it. You'll get railroaded and go to it. So imagine you're one of two cops in your fate. One is you're the white guy with the crew cut who shows up, and there's a black guy who's saying, I can't breathe while you're squatted over his back with your knee. And the entire nation's gonna riot unless you go to jail. Now, did you kill the guy? No. I mean, you guys can go look at the real coroner's report and stuff like that. There was no damage to the windpipe and all that kind of stuff. He had enough fentanyl in him to kill him. And he had a lot of heart disease and stuff like that. So did you kill the guy? Okay, let's say you aided to that, that you contributed 10% to his death. I don't know that you would. I'll be generous and say that Chauvin contributed 10% to George Floyd's death.
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Chris Feistel
It was a lot of, like, the COVID deaths where, you know, somebody either had a heart attack or there was, like a stroke or something that had happened, but it also coincided with the fact that they had Covid at the time.
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Adam Carolla
Right.
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Chris Feistel
When that death didn't get attributed to a heart attack, it became a COVID death.
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Adam Carolla
All right, so you got a son, and he could either be Derek Chauvin cop.
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Chris Feistel
I thought you were telling me. I was like, oh, shit, let me tell you. I knew about a daughter, but, man.
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Adam Carolla
Or you could be the cop who worked at the Capitol Police and shot that chick in the face from six feet away, just pulled out your revolver or your pistol and shot Ashley Babbitt point blank in the face and killed her, even though she didn't possess a weapon and she was a diminutive woman.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Okay, so, well, all right, Then you'd kind of go, well, what was more egregious? And you go, well, I think shooting that chick in the face from six feet away, who was unarmed, even though it was a hairy situation, she was pushing through the window, and it was hectic, but no shots had been fired. No one had been stabbed or anything. And you're a big dude. You got a gun. Probably didn't have to shoot her in the face, but you did. Okay. I would say you're pretty responsible for the death of Ashley Babbitt. Okay, I won't go 100%. I'll go 80%. She didn't have to try to break into the building, but she did. And there's lots. I think, as we've seen over the last 20 minutes, our society, there's lots of people doing. There's lots of cops sitting in cop cars while people are jumping up and down on the hood. They don't reach out the window and shoot them. They just sit there. It's dangerous, it's hairy, it's hectic, but you're there. So if you're the cop who just shot Ashley Babb in the face. But let's really consider where we're at as a society. Oh, well, now, no problemo. That guy, first off, he was turned into a hero by the media and the left. And then second of all, they just went. Just slap on the wrist or something. I don't know. Just retire with full pack. Mm. No trial, no prison time, no burn. No one's gonna burn anything. No nothing. Okay, so you got one. One cop who's pretty damn guilty of snuffing a citizen, and then you got another cop who's barely guilty of snuffing a citizen. One is retired somewhere now with full pay, and the other is being stabbed multiple times in prison. Will never get out. Why? All optics. One Guy was black, she was white, he was black. That was helpful. Helpful that the cop that shot Ashley Babbitt was black. And as a society, we're cool with this. We just go, yeah, good.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Okay.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
All right. That's your justice system.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Okay.
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Chris Feistel
I watched with my own two eyes the Third Precinct burned down in Minneapolis. And what people were calling that as a peaceful protest and then looking at January 6th and going, yes, both are terrible. But you can't call one peaceful and one not. You know what I mean? Like, one is wrong, one is not. We're both watching the same thing. I don't understand how your version of it differs from mine.
- [98:18]
Adam Carolla
Well, it's weird. It's also strange. Maybe a little bit of chick thinking here where you're trying to just sort of bend and morph reality constantly into, like, that didn't happen. This did happen. Stop trying to twist it and bend it. You can. You can say peaceful, but we can see images of Waymos burning, and so we don't think it's peaceful. And also, there are ways when people are like, you scare these people with the National Guard. All right, I'll tell you what. If you're scared, go home, don't punch the cop, and don't punch his horse, and then you'll be fine.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah. My girlfriend came from a kind of somewhat affluent family, and this weekend I was on the phone with her, and she was complaining about affluent boat owners in Minnesota. And I laughed and said, didn't your family a boat owner? And she's like, well, that's different. I said, you know what this is? This is the Posh Spice moment in the documentary when Beckham is calling her out for driving a Rolls Royce to school every day, where. Let's kind of turn the optics on us a little bit. Look inward, you know?
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. So that doc, which is very interesting.
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Chris Feistel
Very. It's so well done. Yeah. I really do applaud her for being in a state that does not allow, first off, women in her position to speak, but get it out there as much as she can. I'm a big fan. Speaking of Minnesota, Tim Walz told Dems to be meaner, but then blamed Trump's mean tweets for political violence. Governor Tim Walz attempted to blame political violence like the targeted shooting of two Democratic lawmakers and their spouses in his home state on mean tweets in an apparent jab at President Donald Trump, despite the fact that he himself called on Democrats to be meaner just a few weeks earlier. We got the video of it.
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Adam Carolla
Oh.
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Unknown
The governor's being mean. And the governor speaking out on that. Well, maybe it's time for us to be a little meaner. Maybe it's time for us to be.
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Adam Carolla
A little more fierce. Oh.
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Unknown
The governor's being mean. And the governor speaking out on that. Well, maybe it's time for us to be a little meaner. Maybe it's time for us to be a little more.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, something's wrong with him. Like, I, you know, I would say this. I mean, here's my take. You may disagree with folks on the right. Tom Cotton, Jim Jordan. Okay, something's wrong. Rand Paul disagree. But I don't go, something's wrong with him. And like Maxine Waters or Gavin Newsom or Tim Wallace, I go, there's something wrong with them. Like, he doesn't think in a linear, pragmatic, or sort of clear way. I love. I don't think you've seen that one. But my favorite. We pulled at Dawson several months ago, but he was digging into Elon and he was talking about, man, this guy's got money. Man, if I had money, I wouldn't be yelling on Twitter. I'd be out in the street. I'd be handing it out. Come on, give people a helping hand. That's his version of money. So Elon Musk, I don't know, he could just take. Take 1 billion and put it in a couple trash bags and just go out in the street and then find those guys in Philly.
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Chris Feistel
Homelessness is solved.
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Adam Carolla
The guys in the Philly who were bent over because they were fucking on Fentanyl and just hand them some cash so they could be successful, too. Yeah, there's something wrong with the way that guy thinks. He doesn't. Or he's just sucking everyone off? I was gonna say that.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah. His crowd thinks that that's how you solve problems, is by throwing money at it. That's how it all happens. It was like, if you. If these people had enough money, if problems were solved like that, we have enough money on the planet to solve them, wouldn't we have done it by now?
- [101:52]
Adam Carolla
Just go to those guys down in Philly street over there and the catatonic zombie guys and just give them all like a thousand bucks in twenties, right?
- [102:01]
Chris Feistel
Yeah. Somebody in my life constantly says, you know, if I had money, every Christmas, I would go out to the stores and I would just hand out hundred dollar bills. And in my mind I'm like, you could do that now. Yeah, it doesn't have to be a million dollars, but you could take $1,000 of your money and go hand out ten $100 bills. You could do that, but you don't do it now. So why would you do it when you get older?
- [102:22]
Adam Carolla
They would never.
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Chris Feistel
They would never do it. Of course not.
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Adam Carolla
I know. It's a weird, retarded version of adulthood or capitalism or rich or something. I don't know what it. It's like a fourth grader's. You know, it's like when you're in fourth grade and you think about having money and you just go, I would just get. And we'd all live in Hawaii and we build a castle out of Legos. They don't really understand how people make money and how many employees. And also, they don't really ever factor in how many jobs these guys create by what they're doing. They just think they get all the money and they don't give it to anybody.
- [102:59]
Chris Feistel
Yeah, I'm more of a Lincoln Log kind of guy. That's what my house would be out of. But if you want Legos, it's fine.
- [103:04]
Adam Carolla
Well, what I'll do is I'll go Lincoln Log for the foundation, so I get a strong, steady bass, and then we go Lego for the main quarters. All right. We'll see if we can find that. We had it somewhere, but I don't know where it is. But anyway, go ahead.
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Chris Feistel
Right on. Barbra Streisand. I don't know if you saw this story or not. Barbra Streisand, 83 years old, won't admit to whether she and longtime pal Warren Beatty, 88, ever slept together during their rumored fling in the 70s. She says, I know I slept in a bed with him, but I can't remember if we had actual penetration. I swear to God, I can't. There are certain things I. I block out.
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Adam Carolla
Well, he banged everybody all the time. I mean, all the time. Everybody. So if he slept in a bed with her, then.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah. Well, if you said you'd slept next to Walt Chamberlain and be like, well, probably a pretty good chance.
- [104:01]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But in that. That time period. So I'm going to go with yes.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah, I don't.
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Adam Carolla
You know, I know she's sexy, but I don't find her sexy. But men are supposed to find her sexy. And is. It is Barbra Streisand, as far as guys will go into the untrodit. Okay, so you go. Okay, Heidi Klum. All right. There you go. Tall and blonde and curvy, and everyone agrees on it or whomever you pick the celeb or the model or the whomever, whatever you're into. You go, okay, Rihanna, okay, beautiful, okay, fine. Then there's Rosie o' Donnell, you know, guys go, nah, not gonna touch it. No, no, no. I don't care how much money she has there. I don't care if I don't. No way. Then you get into like a Barbra Streisand and you're sort of like, that's kind of the edge before guys fall off into the. I mean the way guys are, which is like a sad testimonial, is if there's a hot 19 year old blonde greeter at Chili's who goes to a junior college, we would fuck her over Barbra Streisand. Yeah, right.
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Chris Feistel
Absolutely right.
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Adam Carolla
Which is how guys roll. Whereas that wouldn't work. A chick would fuck Henry Kissinger before she fucked a good looking dude who worked at a surf shop just because he was Henry Kissinger. And blah, blah, blah is like Barbra Streisand sort of on that edge of where guys stop. Because if you keep going, now you're getting into Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg or something. But then there was Ted Danson and Whoopi Goldberg. I don't know. We have the Tim Walls clip, by the way. It just makes me laugh of what would Tim Walsh do if he was a rich man, a millionaire.
- [106:08]
Unknown
This guy bugs me in a way that is probably unhealthy and, but, but.
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Chris Feistel
Put him at the chuckle.
- [106:19]
Unknown
I have to be careful. Careful about being a smart ass. I was making a joke. These people have no sense of humor. They are the most literal people. Most literal people. But, but my point was they're all mad and I, you know, said something I didn't, you know, probably shouldn't have about a company.
- [106:34]
Dawson
He is, he's an idiot.
- [106:38]
Adam Carolla
So cool. I make the case. I make the case.
- [106:42]
Unknown
They're all, they're all butt hurt about the Tesla thing, but they don't care. The disrespect they have shown to employees at the Minneapolis VA who care for our veterans and they fire them.
- [106:54]
Adam Carolla
They don't care.
- [106:56]
Unknown
So we will have the conversation about efficiency in government and about doing that, but none of us believe for a second they're thinking about this, oh, we fired everybody that's dealing with Ebola. And then he went into the Oval Office wearing a hat. I don't ever want to hear anybody talk about decorum and respect or that wearing a hat. Coming in there. Richest man in the world again. This baby's Just me. If I'm the richest man in the world, I'm, like, out on the streets handing out the money. It'd be fun as hell just to help people out.
- [107:24]
Chris Feistel
Such bullshit. Such pandering.
- [107:28]
Adam Carolla
Just to help people out.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
- [107:29]
Adam Carolla
Such a good dude. Just go out. You know what helps people out? Creating a job for them. Not going out in the street. Be fun.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah.
- [107:36]
Adam Carolla
You know, random cash.
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Chris Feistel
You should also tell the person who decided to walk out with a Mountain Dew bottle in the back on the stool, hey, why don't you keep that sh. We don't need to be showing off that we drink this idiotic beverage.
- [107:47]
Adam Carolla
Well, as I always call it, nectar of the tarts. Yeah, he brought it in front of Congress the other day.
- [107:53]
Chris Feistel
What?
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Adam Carolla
I think it's the sort of guy who buys the beat up trucker hat just to show he's sort of relatable. I think the diet Mountain Dew thing's a relatable thing.
- [108:04]
Chris Feistel
Maybe. I don't. I used to.
- [108:06]
Adam Carolla
I think. I think it's Hillary and the hot sauce. I think it's a kind of a. Where you just go, come on, man. You know, look at me. I'm like you. Except for I just get back in a limo and fly privately.
- [108:18]
Chris Feistel
But, yeah, used to like that guy. I used to like that guy.
- [108:22]
Adam Carolla
That's funny. I've talked to you about him on the road a few times, and you're like, I did this and he did that, but he's kind of gone weird.
- [108:30]
Chris Feistel
Yeah. You know what? Covid kind of was where it started. He did an okay job. And I know there's people in the YouTube comments that are gonna, you know, light me up for this. He did an okay job. Not an amazing job with COVID but it was somewhat respectable. Not great, but it was okay. But what really got me was when he was always the guy saying that they take the high road, that they're always gonna be just a little bit better than the Republicans. And then he got on stage and called Elon or Trump, called him an asshole. And I went, whoa, wait a minute. I thought you were the guy who didn't use that kind of language. I thought you were better than everybody else. And then he really showed his hand, and I went, all right, I guess we're done.
- [109:03]
Adam Carolla
All right. Haley Welch is out there, you know, as a Haktua girl, and she's got a pod. She's got a documentary and all that kind of stuff. So, Rudy, hang out and we'll talk to a phenomenon, I think, and we'll do that right after this. Shopify, y' all. Yeah, well, you're starting your own business. It can be intimidating. Finding the right tool that not only helps you out, but simplifies everything can be such a game changer for millions of businesses. That tool is Shopify. Get started with your own design studio. With hundreds of ready to use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store to match your brand's style. You'll be able to get the word out like you have a marketing team behind you. Easily create email and social media campaigns wherever your customers are scrolling. And best yet, Shopify is your commerce expert with world class expertise in everything from managing inventory to international shipping to processing returns and beyond. So if you're ready to sell, you're ready for Shopify, right? Dawson?
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Rudy Povich
The ace man's spending the summer solstice in the hottest place in the nation, Las Vegas, Nevada. Thursday night, Friday night and Saturday night at Jimmy Kim Kimmel's Comedy Club. Two shows Thursday, two shows Friday, two shows Saturday. Lots of tickets and they ain't gonna sell themselves. So get yours now@adamcarolla.com Haley Welch in studio.
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Adam Carolla
You know, as a huck to a girl, just everyone went nuts over this viral moment, maybe the most. And I can't even really figure out how. I mean, who we are as a society, we just grabbed just stuff gets hot, it gets shared and we're just sort of like tribal in a weird way.
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Unknown
No doubt they'll take anything you give them and run with it.
- [112:05]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, but not everything.
- [112:06]
Unknown
Ah yeah, not everything, but a few things.
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Adam Carolla
Well, how did the whole thing come about? Like I, you know, I don't, I didn't, I just saw it like everyone else saw that moment. But I don't know what preceded that. Where you were, who you're with. Like what was going. Vodka.
- [112:21]
Unknown
Vodka.
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Adam Carolla
Where do you hail from?
- [112:23]
Unknown
Word about what? Hail, what does that mean?
- [112:26]
Adam Carolla
Well, sort of. That's not how you would Say hell, I guess. Where's your kinfolk from? Where are you born?
- [112:34]
Unknown
Out in Tennessee.
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Adam Carolla
Tennessee. Okay. And so you're from Tennessee, and so you're out and you're drinking and you're just doing what young people would do.
- [112:44]
Unknown
Oh, yeah. Having fun.
- [112:45]
Adam Carolla
Having fun.
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Haley Welch
But where?
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Chris Feistel
Nashville. Right. Oh, I'm sorry, Adam.
- [112:48]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, guys, Nashville, probably. And just having fun.
- [112:51]
Unknown
Oh, yeah, just having fun. Little encourage.
- [112:54]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And so what time is it when you're out on the street?
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Unknown
That interview was probably, I don't know, one or two in the morning. Had to have been.
- [113:03]
Adam Carolla
So you've been drinking pretty good?
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Unknown
Yeah, a good bit. We went to CMA Fest beforehand, so we were pretty gaming a little bit.
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Adam Carolla
And the guy just comes up to you with the camera and the mic.
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Unknown
Well, we actually seen them first, but we. We thought they were just doing it for fun. We didn't think they actually had like a channel or anything.
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Adam Carolla
And what is their deal? They just come up to pretty girls and when they're drunk and try to get them to do stuff.
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Unknown
I don't really know what their stick is. Like if you go to their accounts and stuff and you see everything, they interview a bunch of girls and ask them stuff like that. So I don't know.
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Adam Carolla
And was that your first impulse when they just put the mic in your face?
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Unknown
Well, see, my friend that was in the video with me, she was like, I bet they're vlogging. Let's be in their vlog. So we're like, okay. So we went up and talked to them first. Cause they were just leaned up on like the corner right there and weren't talking anybody. So we went and tried to make friends with them and it kind of took a turn.
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Adam Carolla
And is it the kind of thing where you must wake up the next morning and not even think anything of it? Right.
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Unknown
No, definitely did not. I went to work the next day like nothing happened. Didn't think twice about the interview.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, well, because there are things in life that are big and noteworthy and like, you get it, like events. And then there's stuff that's like, well, there's nothing who cares that we can as a society decide is going to be huge. Even if to you it's a zero. It's a nothing burger.
- [114:26]
Unknown
Oh, yeah, most definitely.
- [114:28]
Adam Carolla
So you wake up the next day and you go to work. Where do you go to work?
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Unknown
At a spring factory.
- [114:34]
Adam Carolla
A spring factory where you manufacture springs that are used for what?
- [114:40]
Unknown
Motorcycles, mattresses, vending machines, those kind of springs, you know.
- [114:44]
Adam Carolla
Oh, you'll do every. You'll do them. And what do you do there?
- [114:48]
Unknown
I don't ship in, so I'd pack them out and just send them to whoever just ordered them.
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Adam Carolla
So it's a. It's. I don't know, almost a factory job, basically. Almost. Right. And so you're just there and you show up at what time?
- [115:02]
Unknown
I get to work at 5:00. And I get off at 1 or 1:30.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, 5 in the. After.
- [115:06]
Unknown
In the morning.
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Adam Carolla
5 in the morning, after drinking.
- [115:10]
Unknown
It's not that bad.
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Adam Carolla
It's not bad when you're 21.
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Unknown
I used to be able to do it.
- [115:15]
Adam Carolla
It's not bad when you're 21. At the time, 22. I mean, I used to work. I had a girlfriend who was a stripper.
- [115:27]
Unknown
What?
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Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah. She got. You're not the first that got the hock too, babe. She got to work at 2:00am I work construction. That'd be work at 7:00am, like, far away. She come over about 2:30, go to bed about 5, get up about 6:30. Lot of that. Lot of drinking and getting up. You can rally when you're young. It catches up. You get older, you turn to a puss.
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Chris Feistel
Yeah. Adam and I had a drink in Salt Lake City on Saturday night. I'm still feeling it. It's Tuesday today.
- [116:01]
Adam Carolla
Well, because you had to get up at 6, right.
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Chris Feistel
Even before I was up at like quarter to four because my flight was like six. So we stayed out till just after midnight. I got like two and a half hours of sleep on a, you know, bunch of beer and then that.
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Adam Carolla
So you go to bed that night about 2am.
- [116:18]
Unknown
It'S probably later than that, but I had a half a day, so I could go in like half the time and only have to work like four or five hours. So I went in at like 9 or 9:30.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, she didn't go in at 5?
- [116:27]
Unknown
No, not that morning.
- [116:28]
Adam Carolla
Oh, okay. All right. She got a little sleep in.
- [116:31]
Unknown
Just a little.
- [116:31]
Adam Carolla
Go in a little hungover, not thinking about anything.
- [116:34]
Unknown
I would never get hungover. It's just. I think it's this past year where I started getting hungover. It's kind of, I guess, where I'd done it so much.
- [116:40]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [116:41]
Unknown
Then I used to drink like a fish and I'd never feel anything the next day.
- [116:44]
Adam Carolla
So you're there and you're just packing your springs.
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Unknown
Yep.
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Adam Carolla
And when is the first inkling that this thing is moved? The first thought that this thing has moved around got shared around the Internet.
- [117:00]
Unknown
A little bit Well, I would go to bed early. So this was the next day, this was that Monday. And I went to bed early like I normally do, like I don't know, 9 o' clock, 9, 10. And then my group chat with my friends in it, they found it first and sent it in there and it had like, I don't know, it had a few thousand likes, it wasn't nothing bad. So I was like, oh okay, that's funny, whatever, it's not gonna go any bigger than that, right? By the next day, it was a Tuesday, I was getting up and going to work and it already had like a million views. So I was like, oh shit.
- [117:28]
Adam Carolla
Well were you worried? Worried your dad or your boyfriend or somebody, your priest or somebody? Like what was the worry?
- [117:35]
Unknown
I think I was more worried about my granny seeing it, but she ended up being really cool about it. She's like, oh, okay, I get it now. Imagine having to explain to your 80 year old grandmother what hawked to me, well, what?
- [117:47]
Adam Carolla
I want to see it again. Do you mind if we see it just to get it?
- [117:51]
Unknown
You be my guest, watch it.
- [117:54]
Adam Carolla
Well, I'm trying to remember exactly how it all played out and also how much of it is just timing. Like if Israel just bombed Iran and Hoc to a came out the same time, would it have gotten buried? Or ICE riots and LA or Trump wins election? Like how much of it is just a slow cycle? Like just nothing to bump it off the top of the page, you know?
- [118:23]
Unknown
I don't know. That's a really good question though.
- [118:26]
Adam Carolla
So the, so all of it, when does it really like kick in for you? Like what day?
- [118:34]
Unknown
I think by the end of my work day that day it kicked in because it done got like millions of views by way the, by the time, like I got off work in my eight, eight and a half, nine hours, it was rough.
- [118:45]
Adam Carolla
And what do you attribute that to? Like why do you think people connected to it, shared it, thought it was funny, thought it was interesting, thought it was vulgar, like whatever. Like why, why does something like at a certain point does something just get shared? Because it's getting shared, I'm sure.
- [119:02]
Unknown
I think it's definitely a chain. Like if you see somebody else sharing something like on TikTok or anything, I feel like other people want to do it, do it too. I put their opinions on it.
- [119:11]
Adam Carolla
And so at some point somebody's gotta contact you, right?
- [119:17]
Unknown
Yeah, I had a bunch of people.
- [119:19]
Adam Carolla
Contact me from different out TMZ or whatever.
- [119:23]
Unknown
Not really tmz, it's just like Deals and stuff. I was like, what are they talking about? Like I had Playboy reach out. Let's see. I think only fans reached out too. Which I was like, what the hell?
- [119:34]
Adam Carolla
How much can you tell me? Like, what does Playboy offer these days?
- [119:39]
Unknown
I guess I just want it. Which they said no nudity or anything, but they wanted me to like wear their clothes and stuff. I don't know about that.
- [119:47]
Adam Carolla
Oh really?
- [119:48]
Unknown
I don't like my picture being taken. You know, I've gotten used to it now. But at that time I was like, absolutely not.
- [119:54]
Adam Carolla
Well, I mean, if they offered you a million bucks, you'd put on a Playboy hoodie, wouldn't you?
- [119:59]
Unknown
Yeah, probably. I don't know. I think I was more scared at the beginning. So it took like a few weeks and they kept making more, I guess cutouts like the interview. And they release more sounds and videos of it. Like the whole interview, they just chop it up into pieces and release them like every week. So it's not like they posted one video and stopped. It just kept going.
- [120:18]
Adam Carolla
Did you have a boyfriend at the time?
- [120:22]
Unknown
He was an acquaintance at the time, but now he's my boyfriend.
- [120:25]
Adam Carolla
Uh huh. How was he with this?
- [120:27]
Unknown
I mean, he was defending me and stuff. Like you'd have people with their negative comments and stuff. But he'd go in and he'd be like, oh, leave her alone. You know, she's in her bedroom, she's terrified to come out of her house. Just leave her alone.
- [120:38]
Chris Feistel
Yeah, it's nice because my girlfriend's the same way. Like I don't care about what people say about me on the Internet. I don't either. Yeah, the YouTube comments, you get lit up in it. But my girlfriend is like a, like a hockey mom. She's like, how dare you? I was like, just give shit.
- [120:49]
Unknown
My boyfriend's the same way.
- [120:51]
Adam Carolla
Like a hawk to a moment. Your boyfriend's that way?
- [120:55]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [120:56]
Adam Carolla
That's a weird. Yeah, I guess it's an impulse. Maybe it's more of a female impulse to go look and snoop and then get angry and try to.
- [121:05]
Unknown
I get that. My friends, but if people say stuff to me, I don't really care. Now if I see them on. My friend Chelsea is the one that was in the video with me. If I see somebody commenting on her stuff, I'll get right in there. I'm like, get the hell out of here.
- [121:15]
Chris Feistel
Yeah, every now and then again we go out and I will. I'll usually try to do a couple of jokes on the weekend where there's something Topical going on. I always try to like just to throw, maybe get a clip for Instagram or something and sometimes you'll do a joke. And the crowd, the news has not got to them yet, so they don't understand what you're saying. I think I saw that video on a Wednesday. I was at the Addison Improv and I brought up the. I was walking down the street and I saw a woman in a shirt that said I fuck like a beast.
- [121:43]
Adam Carolla
What?
- [121:44]
Chris Feistel
Yeah, and I brought it up on stage that night and then I. And all I said, all I said is we got girls who fuck like a beast and girls hock to in on guys dicks. And like it went bananas. The crowd went nuts. And that's the first time I've ever gotten that big of a response in that little amount of time in a news cycle. The crowd like everybody knew it within a 48 hour span.
- [122:05]
Unknown
Oh yeah, no doubt.
- [122:06]
Adam Carolla
Well, let's watch the clip so we can refresh all our memories here. All right, so you're just out in the street in Nashville, out in the row.
- [122:16]
Unknown
This video is so obnoxious.
- [122:18]
What's one move in bed that makes a man go crazy every time?
- [122:21]
Oh, you gotta give him that huck too and spit on that thing. You get me?
- [122:27]
Chris Feistel
How much money did those guys make off that video? Do you know?
- [122:30]
Unknown
I really couldn't tell you.
- [122:31]
Adam Carolla
Well, how many downloads do they end up getting? Or do you know, last time I.
- [122:36]
Unknown
Looked at their views on the original video they had, it was like 20 something million views.
- [122:41]
Adam Carolla
Wow.
- [122:41]
Unknown
So I really, I actually don't know. I don't know what it is now either.
- [122:44]
Adam Carolla
But I mean, look, it changed your life. You got a podcast. Talk to her. And a documentary that's in the works as well, right?
- [122:53]
Unknown
I also have a charity too.
- [122:54]
Adam Carolla
And you have a charity as well. How do we get to the charity?
- [122:58]
Unknown
Dry mouth halls across America.
- [123:01]
Adam Carolla
So he's no longer working at the Spring factory.
- [123:05]
Unknown
Sure enough. If I had to go back though, I wouldn't mind it. I like my job. I got to be in a corner by myself all day. Nobody bothered me. I'd work at my own pace. I had a lot of fun doing it actually.
- [123:17]
Adam Carolla
You like being left alone at the job site?
- [123:21]
Unknown
Yes, no doubt.
- [123:23]
Adam Carolla
So then it's kind of tough. Cause this life is much different than that life.
- [123:28]
Unknown
It's definitely a lot different. Like I can't even go in the grocery store and like just shop like a regular person. I always get bothered by somebody.
- [123:34]
Adam Carolla
Oh really?
- [123:36]
Unknown
It used to be weird at first, but now I'm kind of, I kind of get it now, so it doesn't bother me as bad. But sometimes you just want to be left alone and do your grocery shopping.
- [123:43]
Adam Carolla
You know, I'd say always want to be left alone to do your grocery shopping. But if you're out later on, maybe you don't want to be left alone. But then you, you know, you go, well, I want to be left alone. But that's kind of a double edged sword because then the way our society works X amount of years goes by and we will leave you alone depending on whether you, you do something notable or not. And what you did was a kind of lightning in a bottle situation.
- [124:11]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [124:12]
Adam Carolla
So it's like, look, if you're Billy Joel and you write a bunch of hit songs in the 70s and early 80s, you can just not be left alone for the rest of your life. You just go tour. Unless you get some kind of water on the brain situation. But you can just go tour and sing all the hits and sell out wherever, whenever. But hock to a. Either you got to reinvent or bring something that people didn't know about you or have another viral moment, which is probably not very probable.
- [124:47]
Unknown
Yeah, it's very slim.
- [124:49]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. I'd say, look, whatever happened to you, first of all would have been impossible for the existence of humanity before this because we didn't have all these waste social media ways to share.
- [125:01]
Unknown
That's what my family said too. They're like, well, we're just glad we never got caught saying stuff like that because they never had cameras or stuff in their face back in the day. But. Yeah, but then our generation is.
- [125:11]
Adam Carolla
But they're not gonna get paid either.
- [125:12]
Unknown
Exactly.
- [125:13]
Adam Carolla
They're gonna put that spring factory.
- [125:15]
Unknown
Exactly.
- [125:16]
Adam Carolla
For forever. So what do you, what does your family do?
- [125:20]
Unknown
Do most of them do work in a factory. Oh yeah, sure enough.
- [125:25]
Adam Carolla
You know, it's funny because I'm out here and they always do this thing. All the in LA are like, americans won't do those jobs. Like America, they're not going to work in a factory. They're not going to work there. This, they're not going to do it. It's like, oh, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. You don't know. You never heard of poor people. You just.
- [125:44]
Unknown
Exactly, you're exactly right. But most of my family, none of them ever went to college or anything. So I mean, that's probably the best case for them to do, to make money, you know?
- [125:53]
Chris Feistel
Mm.
- [125:53]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I just, it's so elitist. Just when they do that. Where's that tweet? I had a tweet somewhere, but they do that. Who's gonna clean your toilet? Who's gonna clean your shoes if you vomit on them? Who's gonna pick your vegetables? Who's gonna work in the factory? People that need jobs will take jobs, all different colors and races and ethnicities. Not just. Just relegated to one group of people. But we're so used to out here, just white people. Come on, you don't work. Actually, everyone I worked construction with was a white person. Where's that sign? It's a really. Oh, we'll find out in a second. It just pissed me off. Go ahead.
- [126:32]
Chris Feistel
While those guys are looking for that, I have a question. So usually when you listen to a podcast, especially guys that are comics, we can always tell when somebody is doing a bit on a show. Like they're telling a part of their act. And was this a. Was hock to it? Was that a thing between you and your friends? Because when he asked that question, you were so fast with an answer. It feels like this is something that you and your friends had between you, that you guys would always say.
- [126:55]
Unknown
So it was actually a joke between me and my little cousin, but it wasn't used.
- [127:00]
Chris Feistel
It's a weird joke, but that's alright.
- [127:01]
Unknown
No, no, no, no. It wasn't used in that way. It was used in a different way. Like somebody's disrespectful, you're like, oh, Hawk too, and you're gonna spit in their face. You know, I use it a different way. Okay, but it was kind of a joke beforehand, but not like that, if that makes sense.
- [127:15]
Adam Carolla
So now people, it's been a few days, things going viral. People start coming at you, Playboy and beyond. And what do you do? Because you can't just say, well, I'll talk to my dad. Because your dad, dad works at a factory. He's not a publicist or a lawyer. You know what I mean? Like, you know, when people have family members that are affluent, they'll go, you got to talk to my friend Rich. He's a, he's a, he's a lawyer. He's got to get this copywritten, you know, like stuff, you know, he represented.
- [127:50]
Chris Feistel
Farts and jars, girls.
- [127:51]
Adam Carolla
That's right. You know what I mean?
- [127:53]
Unknown
Did you really?
- [127:53]
Adam Carolla
I did, yeah, for a number of years.
- [127:55]
Unknown
How do I get on?
- [127:57]
Adam Carolla
Hey, I got my man Mason Jar right in the next. No, it's hypothetical. But the point, the point is this. There's somebody coming at you and does Somebody in your family go look before you sign anything or greet anything. Like you're gonna have to consult with somebody. You're gonna get taken advantage of.
- [128:17]
Unknown
I definitely did that like weeks later. So the way that rolled out, I got to seeing everybody on the Internet. Like they're like, oh, well, we found the hawk 2 a girl and it wasn't me, so. Oh, there was like plenty of people saying it was them. Just I guess, I don't know. There was one girl that really stuck out to me. I can't remember if she's from Jersey or where she was from, but she was a school teacher. She got fired for being in the video. It wasn't even her in the video.
- [128:39]
Adam Carolla
Oh, really?
- [128:40]
Unknown
They done a benefit for and raising all this money for this woman that wasn't even in video. So I was like, what the hell? So my best friend's mom is a paralegal. So I reached out to her and I was like, what do I need to do? I was like, I'm tired of watching everybody pretend that's them in the video. They're making money off of it. T shirts, hats, all the above. So I reached out to her and then I ended up meeting up with my attorney. And then we discussed it and he introduced me to my managers that I've had for the last year. So I've been with them since the beginning. And then they just kind of took it off my hands and did something with it.
- [129:12]
Adam Carolla
Did the managers, you know, because managers kind of pick a lane. They do stand ups or they do actors or they do.
- [129:19]
Unknown
They try to get me, but I'm a chicken. I don't like crowds.
- [129:22]
Adam Carolla
Oh, really?
- [129:22]
Unknown
Yes.
- [129:23]
Adam Carolla
Oh, cuz they could book cocktoo a girl at the club. See, Rudy, you could open.
- [129:28]
Chris Feistel
I was just gonna say, if you don't mind. If you don't mind your opener. Selling golf balls before Rudy sells golf balls. Golf balls.
- [129:35]
Unknown
You got any on hand?
- [129:36]
Chris Feistel
Maybe some in the truck. I'll take a look.
- [129:38]
Unknown
Okay, I need some of those. My boyfriend loves golf.
- [129:40]
Chris Feistel
Good.
- [129:40]
Unknown
He's not very good, but he likes to golf.
- [129:42]
Chris Feistel
Nobody is.
- [129:42]
Unknown
I hope he doesn't watch that and hear me say that.
- [129:44]
Adam Carolla
You could just leave it as he likes to golf, you know? Appreciate that. Remember how he stood up for you?
- [129:50]
Unknown
Yeah, yeah.
- [129:51]
Adam Carolla
Let's stand up for his game now. So you then get. You get a manager. And what's the manager do? He goes, oh look. Yeah, yeah. Well, obviously if you can do standups, that's a way to make money.
- [130:04]
Unknown
See, I'm Scared of that. I don't know how you just stand in front of a crowd and you entertain the crowd the whole time. Like, I can't do that.
- [130:10]
Adam Carolla
You know, I would argue. I would say in a weird way, it's probably like being a porn star. Like, you go, I could never. With all those people standing around and on. And it's like at some point you get to your hundredth film. It's like, I don't care.
- [130:26]
Unknown
Yeah, I couldn't do that.
- [130:27]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, you could. That's the whole thing.
- [130:28]
Unknown
I don't know about being a porn star now.
- [130:30]
Adam Carolla
Well, I'm saying stand up, but yeah, you're right. Sound like porn star. Same difference.
- [130:35]
Chris Feistel
Was there any porn parodies of Hawk.
- [130:37]
Adam Carolla
To a girl that you knew of?
- [130:39]
Unknown
I'm sure there is. Somewhere.
- [130:40]
Chris Feistel
It's gotta be.
- [130:41]
Unknown
No doubt.
- [130:42]
Chris Feistel
Yeah.
- [130:43]
Dawson
I'm here to tell you, affirmative.
- [130:47]
Chris Feistel
I've been very emaciated.
- [130:48]
Adam Carolla
Say the affirmative to that. That's all. That's enough said.
- [130:51]
Unknown
AI goes a long time.
- [130:52]
Adam Carolla
Leave my phone alone. So you get this manager and he's going, all right, we got strike while the iron's hot, right?
- [131:01]
Unknown
Not really, no. I mean, he's always believed in me. Both of them have. So they're like, you're not one of those things that's gonna burn out after like a month?
- [131:10]
Adam Carolla
Well, I mean, it's sort of like, let's see, we'll take this in spirit, which is intended. But like, I remember we had the first. I did Loveline a million years ago, Raider show. We had the first winner of Survivor, the female who was. She was everywhere for like 25 years ago, but she's season one Survivor winner. And she was like, playboy offer, but I'm not. And I said to her, well, okay, but you don't want to wait like 10 years because then there will, you know. Yeah. Playboy's not going to be offering up money five years from now. So you have to kind of try to build the momentum or get paid, you know, or do it while you got a little heat, you know, on you and I, you know, I don't. In a weird way you're suggesting that they're not. But I'm not suggesting than not. When the guy sings Mambo number five came in.
- [132:05]
Chris Feistel
Lou Bega.
- [132:06]
Adam Carolla
Lou Bega, Yeah. I said Lou, like, you know, hey, man, you Gary, got some heat. And it's like, it's never gonna end. And I was like, well, it may. We don't know that it's not gonna. It might end, might not. I don't know, but seems like now is a good time to capitalize on that, you know, so that's fair enough. That's all I'm saying. I look at you as sort of the Lou Baga of the South.
- [132:25]
Unknown
Blue bag of the South.
- [132:26]
Adam Carolla
I know. It's been said many times. Many times.
- [132:30]
Unknown
I hear it, love it.
- [132:31]
Adam Carolla
So your manager goes, what's, like, the first idea he has or the first plan?
- [132:36]
Unknown
So this is kind of my fault. We had Zach Bryan tickets, like, I don't know. We bought them way before any of this ever happened. But I wanted to go to it, but I've never come out at this point. And I was like, oh, that's me in the Hawk to a video.
- [132:49]
Adam Carolla
Zack Bryan, country star.
- [132:51]
Unknown
Yes. So instead of me being, like, the crowd where I was supposed to be at, we were like, oh, well, can we come down to the other area? So, like, I don't get bothered or anything, because I haven't been out anywhere at this point. And I was scared to death to come out, but he was like, why don't you just get on the stage with me and do the revival song? I was like, oh, God, wow. So we done that. That was definitely the first time. I was, like, out after the video, and then it just kept rolling from there. I met Shaq, like, two days after that. I'm telling you, it's crazy.
- [133:21]
Adam Carolla
You met Shaq two days after that?
- [133:23]
Chris Feistel
What'd he try to sell you?
- [133:24]
Adam Carolla
Who?
- [133:24]
Chris Feistel
Shaq?
- [133:25]
Adam Carolla
He did somewhere.
- [133:26]
Unknown
He is. He's everywhere, though. I can't even get on Amazon without seeing him looking at me. I went to get a. What did I get? A few weeks ago, I got a. What do you call it? A love sofa.
- [133:36]
Chris Feistel
LoveSac.
- [133:36]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [133:37]
Adam Carolla
Rudy used to work at Lovesack.
- [133:39]
Unknown
And then I seen. What is it? He has a recliner, the Lazy Boy. Lazy Boy, he's everywhere. I can't go anywhere without seeing Shaq on everything he sponsors, everything he does, and he's all over tv. You can't get away from him.
- [133:53]
Adam Carolla
Should they have an African American be the face of something that has boy in it and lazy. No Count boy. Lazy Boy is kind of a weird move for a black dude, you know, historically.
- [134:05]
Chris Feistel
Yeah.
- [134:06]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. All right, so what's the first check you get? Like, what's the first deal? Is it, like a personal appearance thing? Is it a sponsorship thing?
- [134:19]
Unknown
I really don't know what my first deal was. I don't know. I don't really talk about, like, money.
- [134:23]
Adam Carolla
All right, all right. Well, no, no, no. People here's the thing people don't in showbiz. They don't really talk about money.
- [134:32]
Unknown
I think it's rude if you do.
- [134:34]
Adam Carolla
No, they don't talk about money. But Shaq goes, I have a relationship with La Z Boy and Lovesac. And when he says, I have a relationship with La Z Boy and Lovesac, that means he's getting paid from Lazy boy. I got 1,241,000 that he doesn't do. So I'm saying like, what was your first relationship with sponsorship or worked with. But again, you didn't have to talk about money. Just say I had worked with a Chevy dealership in Memphis.
- [135:01]
Unknown
I'm really trying to think. It may have been fanfics. Either. Fanfics or better.
- [135:07]
Chris Feistel
What's that?
- [135:07]
Unknown
Fanfics. It's like a.
- [135:09]
Adam Carolla
It's kind of like a.
- [135:09]
Unknown
A post wall platform. Like you just post pictures and people, they'll try to message you and stuff like that. Which some people run theirs different. Like they'll just post pictures and have people run it for them. Which I did too. Don't get me wrong.
- [135:23]
Chris Feistel
Non nude only fans is what it sounds like, basically.
- [135:26]
Unknown
Yeah, basically.
- [135:27]
Adam Carolla
So life for you, is it still in the same town you were living in? Same apartment or we moved on to the. To the lights of the big city?
- [135:37]
Unknown
No, absolutely not. I could never live up here. I still live at home.
- [135:41]
Adam Carolla
I live here and I could never live here. That's how bad it is. It's to everything here. That's right.
- [135:47]
Unknown
It's very busy.
- [135:48]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. So you're still in the same town, but you upgraded a little. Better place. Condo.
- [135:53]
Unknown
No, still driving my Altima.
- [135:55]
Dawson
Wow.
- [135:56]
Adam Carolla
Nissan Gal.
- [135:57]
Unknown
Yep. It's beat up too. It's beat up bad.
- [136:00]
Adam Carolla
What year is that? Ultimate.
- [136:02]
Unknown
It's a 2016 and it's got some miles on. Just hit 135,000.
- [136:09]
Adam Carolla
Oh, wow.
- [136:09]
Chris Feistel
Is it the Titans arena in Nashville? That's a Nissan. Isn't that Nissan something or another?
- [136:14]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, Nissan Stadium.
- [136:14]
Chris Feistel
Okay.
- [136:15]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. That is one of the worst stadiums in America.
- [136:20]
Chris Feistel
So weird. From the highway, the big red claws that go over the top of the trees.
- [136:23]
Adam Carolla
It really just looks like an erector set. It's like somebody said, look, we got 24 hours to build a stadium. Now what are we gonna do? Cause all of them now are sunk in the ground and have this architecture that was like, just like a high school stadium that holds 70,000 people. So they spell. It's just nothing but bleachers and stuff. But yeah, I always go walk and see all The Nissans out there, huh? I mean, Ultima.
- [136:49]
Unknown
Yeah, it's a little beat up.
- [136:52]
Adam Carolla
Why not, you know, step up, so to speak? Like, I don't know.
- [136:57]
Unknown
I try to make sure my family has just as much, you know, like my granny, I got her a convertible bug for Christmas, so. Really, you ought to see her driving it. She's badass.
- [137:06]
Adam Carolla
You got her convertible VW stick shift?
- [137:10]
Unknown
No, no. It doesn't have a turbo in it, though.
- [137:12]
Adam Carolla
They didn't make stick shifts anymore.
- [137:15]
Chris Feistel
I had a stick shift a couple years ago.
- [137:16]
Adam Carolla
Oh, you did?
- [137:17]
Chris Feistel
I did, yeah.
- [137:17]
Unknown
Well, what was it?
- [137:18]
I feel like it has a stick shift.
- [137:19]
Adam Carolla
Maybe.
- [137:20]
Chris Feistel
I mean, some of them do. I believe some of them do, yeah. I'm not sure, but. No, I had a. I had a Honda Element that was a five speed.
- [137:25]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Oh, really?
- [137:26]
Chris Feistel
Absolutely.
- [137:27]
Adam Carolla
What year was it?
- [137:27]
Chris Feistel
Oh, this was. So the last year they started to stop making them was, I think 2011.
- [137:32]
Adam Carolla
Maybe, but that's 15. We're coming up on 15 years.
- [137:36]
Chris Feistel
No, but there's still a few that have them, though.
- [137:38]
Adam Carolla
Can you buy. All right, is there a VW that is offered in the United States with a manual gearbox? And I'm going to go, no, I'm going to say, and I don't think there's a Honda. I'm thinking you could get a Porsche and you would like special order it with a gearbox with a manual gear. I don't think so. But it apparently says great theft deterrent now because kids can't drive sticks.
- [138:09]
Rudy Povich
Yeah, it says that VW stopped making manual transmissions in 2024.
- [138:13]
Adam Carolla
Ooh.
- [138:13]
Chris Feistel
Okay.
- [138:14]
Adam Carolla
All right. Right by here.
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Chris Feistel
What year's the bug you buy your granny?
- [138:20]
Unknown
I think it's. I'll tell you for certain after this. It's on my phone. It's like a 2019 or a 2020.
- [138:28]
Chris Feistel
Ah, nice.
- [138:30]
Adam Carolla
Could be a stick. Could be a stick. But Granny doesn't drive a stick.
- [138:34]
Unknown
Well, she could if she had to.
- [138:35]
Adam Carolla
Granny Convertible. Nashville.
- [138:39]
Unknown
Well, it's an hour south of Nashville. It's out in the middle of bfe. There's nothing out there at all.
- [138:43]
Adam Carolla
So you're taking a bumfuck Egypt? Yeah. You're taking care of the people around.
- [138:49]
Unknown
Oh, yeah, of course.
- [138:50]
Adam Carolla
But keeping it real.
- [138:51]
Unknown
I do. I try to keep it real.
- [138:54]
Adam Carolla
And the podcast, we make any money with that?
- [138:58]
Unknown
I don't really know.
- [138:59]
Adam Carolla
Okay, well, you should get a little more into your finances.
- [139:02]
Unknown
Yeah, I definitely should. I should keep up with it better.
- [139:04]
Adam Carolla
And when do you think the documentary's coming out?
- [139:07]
Unknown
So we have a Producer for it right now, which we haven't announced, like, who it is yet, but that'll be something to come, I'm sure, here pretty soon.
- [139:16]
Adam Carolla
And they're gonna follow you around with cameras.
- [139:19]
Unknown
I really hope it's not like that.
- [139:20]
Adam Carolla
Well, I got bad news for you.
- [139:22]
Unknown
Is that how it goes?
- [139:23]
Adam Carolla
Bad news?
- [139:24]
Unknown
Oh, boy.
- [139:25]
Adam Carolla
Take it from someone who's made a few documentaries. I have. You're gonna have to sit down and talk about that evening. Your life, what happened when you met Shaq.
- [139:38]
Unknown
Oh, I love to talk about Shaq. I'll always.
- [139:40]
Adam Carolla
Well, most the docs I make, we just have the people talk about Shaq. So maybe that'll.
- [139:45]
Unknown
Maybe I can get by just talking about Shaq the whole time.
- [139:49]
Adam Carolla
I think, look, he's an interesting guy. He deserves a conversation. Yeah, I think if they do a doc they're gonna have to talk about, you're gonna have to sit down and kind of narrate a little bit. Talk it through a little bit. Explain.
- [140:03]
Unknown
When I met Shaq, he was smoking a big ass hookah.
- [140:06]
Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah. Okay. More of that.
- [140:07]
Chris Feistel
Wow.
- [140:09]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Now, did he shake your hand? And how big was his hand?
- [140:13]
Unknown
Pretty big. Then I played. It's not real basketball, but it's like. Have you ever seen the little blow up basketballs you get? Like the little blow up hoop?
- [140:21]
Adam Carolla
Mm.
- [140:21]
Unknown
I played that kind of basketball with him.
- [140:23]
Adam Carolla
Okay.
- [140:23]
Unknown
I ain't very good.
- [140:24]
Adam Carolla
Okay.
- [140:25]
Unknown
At all.
- [140:26]
Adam Carolla
But this is all going in the dock.
- [140:27]
Unknown
Oh, yeah. I guess. I don't know. Whatever I'm feeling, I guess I don't really have a certain topic I want to talk about.
- [140:34]
Adam Carolla
Well, like, I got bad news. They're gonna want to talk about more than Shaq. Yeah.
- [140:38]
Haley Welch
More.
- [140:38]
Adam Carolla
Maybe even you.
- [140:41]
Unknown
That's scary.
- [140:42]
Adam Carolla
Well, look, I think you should embrace it. I think you should lean into it.
- [140:49]
Unknown
Should I?
- [140:50]
Adam Carolla
As they say. Well, look, there is a. You have to have a job.
- [140:55]
Unknown
Yep.
- [140:56]
Adam Carolla
And could be boxing up springs and sending those out. There's many different jobs. And then you can kind of compartmentalize, you know what I'm saying?
- [141:08]
Unknown
Well, what does that mean?
- [141:11]
Adam Carolla
Well, you have. I'll say departmentalize. You got shipping, you got the factory floor. You got receiving. You take this department and you separate it from that department, you know, and you go out, you do your interview, and you hang out with Shaq. And that's the. That's one department. And then you shut it off and there's the private part of you. That's kind of what celebrities do, you know, they always kind of go, like, why Is that guy so shy and reclusive when he's up on stage in front of a million people shouting and doing it, it's like that's kind of who he really is. And then there's the job part.
- [141:44]
Unknown
Fair enough.
- [141:45]
Adam Carolla
So once you can departmentalize, we'll call it, then you can get paid, and then you can also have your quiet time.
- [141:52]
Unknown
That's a good idea.
- [141:54]
Adam Carolla
Okay. And you can talk a little about Shaq and your doctor.
- [141:57]
Unknown
Just a little bit.
- [141:57]
Adam Carolla
Not exclusively. All right, let's see. Where was I? Talk to is where. You go for the pod. Sure enough. And Doc, you come back when it comes out, Right.
- [142:11]
Unknown
Mm.
- [142:12]
Adam Carolla
And what about the charity pods Across America?
- [142:16]
Unknown
So it's a fun we started. People just donate if they want to. And then we'll go around like a shelter that needs it. We'll visit them, try to get a spotlight on a dog that needs to be adopted. Like, if they've been there the longest, they need help funding, like, any kind of surgery or anything they have going on. And we'll try to get them adopted.
- [142:33]
Adam Carolla
Very.
- [142:34]
Unknown
We'll do, like, we'll go to petsmart one day and get a list from them, like a supplies and stuff they need, and we'll go pick it up and drop it off for them.
- [142:41]
Adam Carolla
I'm gonna use the word magnanimous.
- [142:44]
Unknown
You gotta quit hitting me with these.
- [142:45]
Adam Carolla
Words that I don't know.
- [142:47]
Unknown
I don't even know how you spell that.
- [142:48]
Adam Carolla
Just I'll put in a sentence, I hail from magnificent nanniesburg.
- [142:52]
Unknown
What does that mean?
- [142:53]
Adam Carolla
Well, we'll find out after the show. Rudy's gonna be at the House of Comedy, Minneapolis, kicking ass on Thursday.
- [143:00]
Chris Feistel
Thursday night. Yes. Please come out Thursday, 7:30pm and then I'm gonna be there Friday, Saturday, opening for Jiao Ying Summers.
- [143:07]
Adam Carolla
Very funny. Rudy's a great stand up. I'm watching him get better and real funny. Thank you. Every week I go out, I sit back there and I go, man, this guy's good. Also, Dawson's got shows coming up, and he's got a bunch of shows coming up. But I think you should go Thursday.
- [143:22]
Rudy Povich
Night in Santa Barbara.
- [143:24]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And also go to Dos Angeles. Where do we go? Just for your thing.
- [143:27]
Rudy Povich
Dos Angeles. Get everything there.
- [143:29]
Adam Carolla
Lot of good shows coming up, especially at the end. And Torrance, let's see the book. Sorry. After Escobar and until next time, this is Adam for Chris and Dave and Rudy and Haley and everybody else saying, Mahala, pick up your phone and leave.
- [143:49]
Rudy Povich
Us a voicemail at 8. 8-86-341-744 and be sure you get tickets to see the Ace man in Vegas all weekend@adamcarolla.com.
- [144:13]
Dawson
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