Game On! Topuria Wants Oliveira

Summary

The Adam Carolla Show – Episode: "Game On! Topuria Wants Oliveira"
Release Date: December 14, 2024

In this episode of "The Adam Carolla Show," hosts Adam Carolla and Jay Leno engage in a dynamic discussion centered around major developments in Major League Baseball (MLB) and the evolving landscape of Mixed Martial Arts (MMA). The conversation seamlessly transitions from high-profile sports contracts to intricate analyses of fighter dynamics and the complexities of MMA judging.

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MLB’s Historic Contract: Juan Soto's $765 Million Deal [02:13]

The episode kicks off with one of the most talked-about events in sports: Juan Soto securing the largest contract in MLB history. Adam Carolla initiates the discussion with astonishment, stating, "I guess it is. That's crazy money. What do you think about that?" [02:13]. Jay Leno breaks down the figures, calculating Soto's deal to be "a little over 50 million a year" [02:41].

Key Points:

• Financial Impact: The unprecedented $765 million, spanning 15 years, sets a new benchmark for athlete compensation in baseball.
• Sport’s Economics: The hosts debate whether such massive contracts will sustain baseball's financial health or contribute to escalating costs, potentially sidelining other sports in terms of star attraction.
• Athlete Longevity and Injuries: They weigh baseball against physically demanding sports like football and basketball, with Adam noting, "A sport. You don't get injured as much. I mean, I guess you do..." [02:09], pondering the balance between lucrative contracts and athlete health.

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The Changing Face of MLB and Personal Anecdotes [04:19]

Adam shares his recent experience attending a baseball game, highlighting changes aimed at speeding up the game. "They have the timer now, so it's..." [04:19], he remarks, observing the introduction of a round timer near the dugout.

Key Points:

• Game Pace: Implementation of strict timers to reduce downtime between pitches and maintain audience engagement.
• Personal Reflections: Both Adam and Jay reminisce about their past encounters with baseball, including humorous anecdotes about attempting to join the sport: "We did a man show bit once, a million years ago where me and Jimmy tried out for the Dodgers..." [04:33].

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Transition to MMA: Ilia Topuria’s Ambitions [05:17]

Shifting gears to MMA, the discussion centers on Ilia Topuria's intent to challenge Charles Oliveira in the lightweight division. Adam emphasizes Topuria's rising trajectory: "Ilia Temporia wants to return in April or May to fight Charles. Charles Oliveira and lightweight." [05:17].

Key Points:

• Topuria vs. Oliveira: Analysis of Topuria’s motivation to fight the reigning champion and the potential dynamics of the matchup.
• Athlete Performance: Recognition of Oliveira's enduring skill and Topuria's boxing prowess, with Adam asserting, "his boxing is head and shoulders above what we've seen in normal mixed circles." [05:17].

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The Evolution and Increasing Skill Level in MMA [06:08]

Adam and Jay delve into the broader evolution of MMA, noting the influx of athletes from diverse sporting backgrounds enhancing the competition's quality. Jay observes, "the skill level continues to rise... it's a big deal." [07:13].

Key Points:

• Diverse Skill Sets: Incorporation of fighters with high-level boxing and wrestling backgrounds, enriching the technical aspects of MMA.
• Generational Growth: Adam reflects on the emergence of multi-generational fighters, citing Antonio McKee and his son as examples of sustained athletic lineage [07:13].
• Viewer Benefits: Increased skill levels translate to more competitive and entertaining fights, ultimately benefiting the audience.

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Upcoming UFC Events and Fighter Matchups [10:58]

The conversation transitions to anticipated UFC events, highlighting several key matchups and fighter profiles.

Key Matchups Discussed:

• Colby Covington vs. Joaquin Buckley: Adam speculates on the odds, suggesting Buckley may be favored due to his current form [10:58]. Jay complements Covington's strong promo skills and political alignment, enhancing his marketability [11:20].
• Cub Swanson vs. Billy Quarantino: Analysis of Cub's experience versus Quarantino's potential, with a focus on age and performance longevity [11:38].
• Bruno Silva vs. Mano Cape: Discussion on regional wrestling strengths, particularly Angola's reputation for producing skilled wrestlers [12:21].

Key Points:

• Fighter Dynamics: Exploration of each fighter's strengths, weaknesses, and previous performances influencing upcoming bouts.
• Event Saturation: Adam expresses concern over the increasing frequency of UFC events, leading to an overwhelming number of fights to monitor [15:19].

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MMA Judging: Current Challenges and Future Reforms [16:14]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to dissecting the intricacies of MMA judging. Adam critiques the existing 10-point must system, advocating for a more holistic "totality" approach inspired by Japan’s Pride FC [19:06].

Key Points:

• Subjectivity in Judging: Both hosts acknowledge the inherent subjectivity in current MMA judging criteria, comparing it to inconsistencies found in the legal system [17:56].
• Alternative Systems: Adam suggests that incorporating a totality-based evaluation could better capture the nuances of a fight, reducing reliance on rigid point allocations [19:06].
• Rule Set Comparisons: Reference to historical Japanese MMA rules, such as longer rounds and total fight evaluations, as potential models for reform [20:27].
• Future Prospects: Discussion on the possibility of implementing new judging criteria to enhance fairness and accuracy in fight outcomes [21:54].

Notable Quotes:

• Adam Carolla: "We're trying to make what is art, because we all see it and have our interpretation of it. We're trying to make art into a science." [20:16]
• Jay Leno: "It's baked in that it's going to happen. It's almost like the legal system." [18:59]

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Conclusion: The Road Ahead for Sports and MMA [23:35]

As the episode wraps up, Adam and Jay reflect on the rapid advancements and growing pains within both MLB and MMA. They emphasize the need for adaptive systems to accommodate the sports' evolving nature, ensuring sustainability and enhanced viewer experience.

Key Points:

• Sustainable Growth: Balancing financial investments in athletes with maintaining competitive integrity in sports.
• Innovative Judging: Potential for MMA to pioneer more objective judging systems, setting a standard for combat sports worldwide.
• Fan Engagement: Continued emphasis on keeping fans engaged through meaningful rule changes and high-quality matchups.

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This episode of "The Adam Carolla Show" offers listeners an insightful exploration of significant sports developments, enriched by the hosts' expert opinions and engaging banter. From historic MLB contracts to the nuanced debates surrounding MMA judging, Adam Carolla and Jay Leno provide a comprehensive overview that appeals to both sports aficionados and casual fans alike.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

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[Jay Leno]

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[Adam Carolla]

Game on.

[Jay Leno]

Oh yeah, what's going on? Mayhem, man?

[Adam Carolla]

I'll tell you what, there's a bunch of MMA news and a, you know, pretty great card tonight. But first, I mean, this happened this week. One of the biggest, no, the biggest sports contract in sports history. Superstar outfielder Juan Soto just landed the biggest deal ever. $765 million over 15 years. I guess it is. That's crazy money. What do you think about that?

[Jay Leno]

So it was 7:50 over 15 years.

[Adam Carolla]

765 it says.

[Jay Leno]

Uh huh. So I was trying to think about that the other day. So then it's like 50 million a year because it's 500 for 10 and then 51. 50, 51, right. So a little over 50 million a year. I don't appreciate baseball as much as I appreciate other sports. I don't always Good to get people paid. And it always is good because it'll attract young people when they were turning to basketball and football and stuff like that. I mean, if you're an athlete, you should probably go play baseball because you have a longer career and now you can get paid and you could get paid in the past.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a sport. You don't get injured as much. I mean, I guess you do, because.

[Jay Leno]

Not that much, though.

[Adam Carolla]

They get injured, I think. And I've noticed because I know athletes and I've seen injury. I've seen training rooms of different kind of sports, but I think standing still and spitting seeds and then suddenly going 100% is not that great for the body. So they get injuries. Like they tear stuff from going from dead cold to all of a sudden have to do super hard work.

[Jay Leno]

I would make it illegal to eat during the game. I don't feel like you need to eat during the game.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know.

[Jay Leno]

It's a three hour window and you're barely doing anything. Stop with the seeds and the spitting. The seeds and the spittle everywhere. They're bored. That's why baseball is no good, because they get bored because they sit in the dugout and they make. They make pyramids out of seed huts.

[Adam Carolla]

I went to a game the past season. They have the timer now, so it's.

[Jay Leno]

Like, oh, that's good.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, they make it so that it's quick. They have to pitch, but, you know, before two minutes is up, I think. Yeah, it's very weird to have a round timer right there on the side of the damn dugout.

[Jay Leno]

Yeah, we did a man show bit once, a million years ago where me and Jimmy tried out for the Dodgers in Vero beach. And it was, it was fun. Tommy Lasorda and all those.

[Adam Carolla]

I remember that.

[Jay Leno]

All those guys.

[Adam Carolla]

You triggered me with that.

[Jay Leno]

Yeah, I had a good time. I love playing baseball. Football was hard. Baseball was kind of easy and kind of, kind of fun. And so anyway, good for him. I don't know why. It's strange to me that people have that kind of budget. And it's also strange that you think maybe that one guy can be as impactful as he could be. But good, good. You know, the rising tide lifts all the boats and. Fine.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Well, in MMA news, you know, there's a lot of things going on. Ilia Temporia wants to return in April or May to fight Charles. Charles Oliveira and lightweight. So he's, you know, not happy to be hanging out as a champion at his weight class. He wants to go up and fight Charles Oliveira.

[Jay Leno]

I think that's what's he fighting at now, 45. So he wants to go to 55.

[Adam Carolla]

Let's go to 55. Yeah.

[Jay Leno]

So probably do that. Right.

[Adam Carolla]

He might be able to, he will have a speed advantage. But I think that Oliveira is so big and he's older now, but he still, you know, got what it takes. We saw in that fight, you know, his last fight he did just fine. He wasn't, you know, he doesn't look any like he's slowing down that much.

[Jay Leno]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

He looks like he still got it. So it's a big, I don't know this guy. I think it's a newsworthy thing because Ilya Taporia is just got heat under him right now and he just keeps winning and his boxing is head and shoulders above what we've seen in normal mixed circles. I, I'll tell you what is because two things that the level of athlete continues to rise. Guys who would, he would normally been a featherweight boxer, you know, and instead he's come to mixed martial arts. Guys who punched that well don't normally, they normally stay in their sport, they stay in boxes. Now there's enough money to be made where it's going to attract athletes of a higher caliber into the sport. So now you're seeing that break in.

[Jay Leno]

Yeah, I listen the, the skill level going up as we talk about almost every week on this show is, is great. This sort of full time dedicated MMA started early athlete. It's a big deal.

[Adam Carolla]

Listen, I've watched three generations of McKees come up. I wrestled with the older McKee, Antonio McKee, beast of an athlete, like, you know, black guy, Nigerian background, like weird Nigerian. That's all you need to say. Big hands, like way short of me, much bigger hands than me, you know, very powerful athlete. His son, I threw him out in his underwear into the cold because he was annoying me. He's like 7 years old, annoying me on the mat. Now I see another, another one like a three year old McKee, four year old McKee doing pull ups on the bar. So now we're having guys who've done it since they were in diapers, you know, break into the normal, you know, it's very different than it was in my, in my early career where it was an outlier sport where only a few of us did. Now we got generations of fighters coming out.

[Jay Leno]

Yeah, well again the skill level is going to go up. It says the skill level of all the opponents and then we're really the winner is going to be the viewer because we're going to see these really highly skilled fights and then the skills like boxing, the guys will get bigger and still possess the skills, whereas the bigger guys, the skill set would fall off once the guy got too big, like in heavyweight. And then the Klitschko's came around and they showed that a guy could be big and skillful if he was disciplined. And I think you see that in UFC with the heavyweights as well. It used to just be big dudes kind of, you know, barrel chested guys.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, it's ever evolving.

[Jay Leno]

Ever evolving is right.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Next up, Shavkat apparently had a torn mcl before the Gary fight. So Ian, Gary and Shavkat went on, man, a five round, like just a crazy fight, like a slobber knocker. They were just going everywhere. And Shavkat like pretty much he controlled like three of the rounds. He like. And then it got kind of diced in the, in the last couple rounds. Gary started, come back, won a lot of fans over Ian Gary did because even though he lost that fight, he like ended up in like a rear naked choke position at the end of the fight. Had him tied up like anaconda, like, like this body triangle position and really like look good. And now they, they. It's come out that he had a tour in MCL before that fight. And you know, fight fighting hurt is kind of standard in the industry. But yeah, Ian, Gary and Shavkat had a really good fight last week.

[Jay Leno]

Yeah. What's the fight? That's going to be big tonight.

[Adam Carolla]

That will be the biggest one. And I mean the is the main event. Colby Covington comes back to fight Joaquin Buckley. I mean, I don't know what the odds are. Let me. It's just Joaquin is one of those guys on a tear. Has had a, a lot of fights in a short amount of time and will be favored. He's number nine to Colby's number six. So, you know, I don't know, I, I think that Joaquin will be favored in this matchup. But again, you know, Covington is one of those guys who are like, he has a lot of tools in his tool belt, but he doesn't always use them. He gets, he's one of those wrestlers who has excellent wrestling but has become as of late a kickboxer sort of. So I don't know, I don't know what's happening.

[Jay Leno]

Experience, right?

[Adam Carolla]

He does, he is very experienced guy. You know, he was champion for a good stretch, great promos. He Cuts great promos. It's a really funny. On the mic. And big. Big Trump guy, too. It's very interesting. Yeah, he's that guy. You know who I'm talking about?

[Jay Leno]

Who's the second? Well, they're all turning into big Trump guys now.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. Yeah. And then Cub Swanson versus Billy Quarantino. That. That's Corinthio. Yeah.

[Jay Leno]

Cub's been around for a while.

[Adam Carolla]

And Cub. Yeah. And the odds. Yeah, observe. Odds are against Cub in this fight.

[Jay Leno]

Well, Cubs like cubs. Gotta.

[Adam Carolla]

Got some years on him.

[Jay Leno]

He's got some years.

[Adam Carolla]

Got some years on him.

[Jay Leno]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. He's a tough. He's a tough guy. And again, he has all those tools, but, you know, will he. Will he slow down in this one? You know, especially at a featherweight matchup. It's one of those things where your cardiovascular system needs to be all the way up. It favors the younger fighter at that age. Yeah. Oh, man.

[Jay Leno]

Who's third? Who's there?

[Adam Carolla]

The further down, you might remember Bruno Silva. He's fighting a guy named Mano Cape. Who. I didn't. He's from Angola, and Angola is known to have, like, really good wrestling. So he might be one of those guys that take him down.

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[Jay Leno]

Seattle, WA there's no heavyweights on this card, is there?

[Adam Carolla]

No. Maybe deep down. Maybe deep down in the prelims. Yeah, way down in the prelims. There's no. Not a heavyweight to be found. No.

[Jay Leno]

A lot of fights these days.

[Adam Carolla]

I know.

[Jay Leno]

Was there like 13 fights?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Jay Leno]

Where's this going down?

[Adam Carolla]

This will be in. Oh, oh, Tampa, Florida. Yes. So they're going to. Yeah, it's kind of a home bout for Colby in a way because he's down there in Florida.

[Jay Leno]

Are they. Are they going to do a UFC every two weeks now?

[Adam Carolla]

Dude, I'm like, you're running me ragged with this job because I have to pay attention to so many different fighters, so many different cards. So it's just nonstop going, going, going. And yeah, it's different than back in a day. Like, I remember going to UFC was such a big deal. There hadn't been one in a month and a half. We're all waiting and everybody's getting ready and we do our best to check the Internet to see how their. This guy's camp is going. Now I have the opposite problem. There's a fight every week. There's 10, you know, there's 10 guys I gotta pay attention to. It's just nonstop. It's an overwhelming, you know, over saturated. Like we're, you know, there's no, like, I don't know, every once in a while we all get built up for one. But look, it took some strange fight, like a freak show fight, like Mike Tyson, Jake Paul for the whole country to get involved.

[Jay Leno]

What's gone doing, Sarah?

[Adam Carolla]

Gone now. Gone. Last week had. What happened was a very close fight, but it kind of seemed like he lost the fight and the fans or the reporters were kind of arguing that he left the cage right after. Before the decision was read because he felt like he lost, but he won. And Dana, Dana White even told his opponent that you got fucked over. But Cyril gone actually had a broken foot that night and was hobbling out of there because he wanted to get some medical treatment. At least that's what his camp said to me.

[Jay Leno]

So you think he lost that fight?

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, look, fighting is art and art is subjective and everyone has an opinion. And the people's opinion that matter are the three judges go by kind of loose criteria. Yeah, I think probably, yeah, he lost the fight, but those judges saw something that we didn't. I'll tell you, being really up close, being face against the cage changes your perspective.

[Jay Leno]

Oh, yeah?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. You can tell small subtleties in what's going on by being up close. So that's what I say. When people get argumentative about the judging, it's like, all right, well, I think the person that has the most, like the best view in the house is the referee. He's right there. He can really tell what's going on. But the criteria for MMA judging is a little open to interpretation.

[Jay Leno]

Yeah, I mean, and look, it's going to happen with everything all the time. And it happens in boxing, it's going to happen in mma. I mean, I guess you could argue that Dana White's seen more combat from a close perspective than most people. And if he thinks you got robbed, then I would, I would tend to, I would listen to Dana. If he thinks you got robbed, if he was there and he's seen it, been there and done that, but there is no way to quantify it. And it's baked in that it's going to happen. It's almost like the legal system. Sometimes innocent guys are gonna get put away and sometimes guilty guys are gonna get let go. That's our system. We don't really have another system. And there's no real way to get around it with a robot or a computer. I mean, you could do fight metric stuff and how many headshots are landed, significant body takedowns or something. But still doesn't tell the full story.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, they could change like, okay, in Japan, previously, back in the day, there was pride and we had a judge, the total of the fight Instead of the 10 point must system, which is borrowed from boxing, they recognize that mixed martial arts is of different art form and it would be better to judge the fight in its totality at the end of the fight. So I won fights where like, it wasn't going really good in the first round. In the second round. But in the third round, I came on strong and did all kinds of crazy stuff and showed that fighting spirit and showed the heart, and they gave the win to me. So I can see it. I can see.

[Jay Leno]

I think everyone kind of does the totality when they watch at home. They go, I think that guy beat that guy. But not by that much, you know, but they don't necessarily do. I mean, the announcers are going, the first and second round go to this guy, but this guy got the third round and the fourth round, so the fifth round. But I think when most people watch a fight, they kind of do the totality thing. I think they kind of just go, I think that guy did a little better than that guy.

[Adam Carolla]

But what we're trying to do is make what is art, because we all see it and have our interpretation of it. We're trying to make art into a science.

[Jay Leno]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So you go, oh, points, points.

[Jay Leno]

I like the totalitarian. I like the totality part better. I would tend to do that.

[Adam Carolla]

Me too.

[Jay Leno]

Just have three guys watch a fight and go, who do you think won? Now that we're done.

[Adam Carolla]

But also another thing that he did in Japan, a different rule set was 5 minute first round, 10 minute second round.

[Jay Leno]

Ooh.

[Adam Carolla]

So it made it so that there was no, like. Because in the current state of affairs with mixed martial arts is five minute rounds. Five minute rounds. It's. They copied boxing essentially, with a little extra time put in there for grappling situations. So you get five minute round, five minute round, five minute round. And then championships, two more of those same things thing. But like I said, back in Japan, There was a five minute round, and they realized, yeah, 15 minutes is about a good tough time to do a fight for anybody. And then so it would be this 10 minute, like, man maker round to see, you know, all right, who is the better fighter here. You know, while in those five minute round system, you can kind of like do bursts of activity, time it, time yourself, and then go, okay, 30 seconds, let me go hard and win this round. And then I think that's kind of what happened with the game thing, where he showed. He showed up in those last 30 seconds enough to make the judges change their mind and then get a 10 instead of a 9.

[Jay Leno]

I didn't know that about Japan, but that sounds kind of cool.

[Adam Carolla]

I think so. I think there's room in the market for a new thing. See, everybody that does mixed martial arts promotions, they try to compete directly with the ufc. I think the real win would be to do something that's similar but way different, like outside of that. And the thing is with athletic commissions, because they have the athletic commission on their side, it might be difficult to get this thing, get something different shored up. And a lot of fighters like me, Josh Barnett, we've kind of campaigned for something different for a while now and you know, we'll see. The the story is developing well.

[Jay Leno]

Good note to go out on Mayhem once again. You said it all. Done it again.

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