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Well, in this episode, author Ralph Pizzulo's back and CIA operations officer and whistleblower Gary Bernson is here and they're bringing a lot of information. So buckle up. And if you don't believe in election interference, you should probably listen to this episode and share it with some friends here who may be skeptical as well. Right after this. This September, CBS hits are streaming free on Pluto tv. Coming in for this month only. Stream full episod Matlock I'm a lawyer.
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From Carolla 1 Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, the author of Stolen Elections, the takedown of democracies worldwide, Ralph Pizzzulo. And one of the primary whistleblowers, highly decorated former CIA station chief Gary Bernson.
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And now.
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This close to getting that Vogue editor gig, Adam Carolla. Yeah, get it on, got to get on. No choice but get under your mandate. You get it on. Ralph Pizzulo back in studio. Gary, in here for the first time. Ralph was here last time, had a very interesting conversation. We drifted into this subject. He said, well, when that book comes out, I'll be back in. And here we are for the stolen election. And Gary. How does Gary fit into this equation?
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Okay, so what happened was last May, it was a friend of mine from the DEA was in town and he said, I want you to meet our best source, our best DEA source. So we went out to lunch. I met this gentleman named Martin Rodeal and we started talking Venezuelan gentlemen. And I said, he said, I'm an investigator and blah, blah, blah, blah, and fascinating man. I said, well, what are you working on now? He said, for the last four years, I've been working on election fraud. And I was like, whoa, okay, interesting. And he said, yeah, actually if you're not busy tomorrow, I would like you to come to where I'm staying and show you a four hour presentation on what me and my partner have discovered. Well, his partner turned out to be Gary Bernson. And Gary I know because we wrote the bestselling book Jawbreaker together. And Gary was the CIA operations officer after 911 who was sent into Afghanistan, put together CIA and matched them with special Forces teams. And they overthrew the Taliban working with the Northern Alliance. They overthrew the Taliban in Three weeks. And then they were seven. Seven weeks. Okay. And then they were tracking bin Laden, who was traveling south and east, and they trapped them in Tora Bora.
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So in terms of the election, I feel. And I don't know anything about how stuff works. You guys do, so we'll get into that. But for me, as a citizen and a layperson, when you bring up a subject, you go, like, you go, okay, the border. I want a stout border. And then you go to the Republicans, and you go, you want a stout border? And they go, yeah, we want to build a wall, and we want to put the army there. You go, okay, Democrats, what do you want? We want a stout border, too. Okay, so you want to build the wall. No wall. Walls never stopped anyone from going anywhere. I go, well, there's one wall around your house, and there's one around every prison. But. All right, so you don't want a wall. No. But you do want a secure and stout border, right? Yeah. Well, then how about putting the troops on the border? No, no, we're not doing that either. And you're like, well, then what are you doing? Well, we've anointed Kamala Harris to be the border czar. Oh, okay. Where's she at the border? No, she's not in the border. She's never been to the border. I go, well, okay, I'm starting to think that maybe you're not telling me. This isn't. Well, it's not job one. And you go, yeah, it is. That's what we want. And then they go, we want secure elections. You go, oh, good. So you're for ID Then, right? No. No, we're not.
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Yeah.
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And you go, okay. And then. Well, you want election day. No, we'll do it over the month. We can mail it in. It's the same with the board. I'm going, well, maybe you're not as into this as you're saying. Yeah, you are. So that's just where I land. It doesn't mean they're doing something illegal. Just means I don't think you're as into it as you say you are.
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Yeah, well, Gary can explain. But what they found after four years of investigation was that there is a criminal there. There is a criminal investigation led by a criminal organization led by Venezuela, Cuba. China's involved, Russia's involved, Serbia is involved. That have been conspiring to steal elections and have been successful since 2006.
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They've stolen in Venezuela 2003, and the recall was the first one.
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Right.
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But globally, after 2006. It was Katie bar the door here. They came out into the world.
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Yeah.
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In large numbers. And we'll explain how this is all done.
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Yeah, explain. Yeah. Could you do it with paper ballots?
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Be a lot harder to steal. I mean, look, people can do, can, can violate and do any sort of criminal activity. The problem is when you're using technology now, you, small numbers of people can commit massive frauds. Right, which they've done and they perfected.
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Right.
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And what they did was they tried to perfect.
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I'm. Hold your mic a little closer.
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Perfect. The theft of stealing elections and the defeat of audit. The defeat of audit. This was done by hundreds of engineers that studied all manners of elections in places. This is a science of election theft by a very large corporation which was a country and a cartel which became multiple ones. And this is a massive investigation is going on in the United States and there are witnesses here that are proffering. They put their hands up. I built the machines that stole your elections is what they're saying right now.
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Right. So. All right, you want. Well, Venezuela, you know, as luck would have it, we just blew up a ship that had a bunch of drugs in it from Venezuela.
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So another day at the beach.
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Another day at the beach moving drugs.
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And all this is connected by this.
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All right, well, so what I'm saying is, here's the way I take it. People that are nefarious and up to running drugs or human trafficking or whatever it is you're up to could be embezzling from the firm you work for. You want business as usual. You don't want disruptors, you know what I mean? So it's like if I'm embezzling from my place of work and someone goes, we got guys, a new CEO and he's going to want an audit. I'm going, well, I don't want that. I don't want that guy because I'm going about my business, you know what I mean? And you know, again, drugs, human, whatever it is your business is, you don't want question marks. At least I know what we got with the old boss. And the old boss, I can't walk into his office and take his wallet, but I can do what I'm doing and it's working. And it has been. It's going to be this new guy, he's an unknown and he could be disruptive to what I'm trying to do. So when everyone was like, well, of course the Russians and all these nefarious actors wanted Trump in there, I'm going Well, why would they want this person? If you knew your business involved the border, why do you want the guy who runs on shutting the border down? Why not the business as usual people? You get another term out of Biden, you get Kamala Harris over there and Mayorkas or whoever. You got nothing at the bar. You walk across, back and forth all you want.
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They didn't want Trump.
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I know they didn't want Trump. It's a weird thing for news. They don't want Trump. Like, if I was embezzling, I wouldn't want the new CEO who was gonna do the audit. Why would I want that?
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Of course not.
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It's a weird thing to pitch.
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Yeah.
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It's a good news out there.
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It's important to start at the beginning, right?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So basically, in 2004, Hugo Chavez, President of Venezuela, faced a national referendum and recall, recall. And the Cubans went to him. He was very close to Fidel Castro and said, you're going to lose. All the polls show that you're going to lose. All right, what do I do? And they said, well, you might want to look into this election. Electronic election software where people vote on electronic voting machines. And they hired three Venezuelan engineers who had gone to their equivalent of MIT and said, can you help us out? And the guy said, yeah, let us. We'll put together some software. They bought machines from Olivetti in Italy and they.
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Lottery machines, thousands of them.
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Yeah.
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And they. And they. And they put the software in the machines and built the source code. They built. They built. The big thing they built was the source code and the software that was inserted into the machines to do the count, and so on and so forth. And it worked.
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Right.
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He won the. The recall, and he continued in power, and he was very pleased. He gave them a $2 million reward and said, hey, build out your company. Build out your software. Which they did. And they used it in elections in Latin America. And over the course of the early 2000s, if you look back in Latin American history, there were a series of leftist leaders who were elected in Latin America that were somewhat of a surprise. So this was sort of a new way to extend your ideological control. You didn't have to launch big propaganda campaigns. You didn't have to stage coups. You could just go in and offer this electronic software to run your election and then steal the election. Then they decided, well, let's expand it to the United States. And they set up an elections company here in the United States. It morphed in through corporate shenanigans yeah. They hid the Venezuelan ownership of these companies. And starting in 2006 in Cook County, Chicago, Illinois, they applied this software in the primary, which Hillary Clinton was expected to win, and they altered the results. And Obama won in cook county in 2006, which pretty much launched his presidential campaign.
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Yeah, Obama was an unknown at that point. Hillary Clinton, household name. So it seems peculiar.
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Yeah. And since then, they have stolen, they have manipulated the results of every election in the United States.
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Right.
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This is shocking.
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So if I might jump in. Yes, 2006, they go into Cook county, but they also go into the Democratic primaries of New Jersey. Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney sees that there's a problem there, and people went to her and they complained that the election was stolen in New Jersey. And she wrote a letter to John Snow where she pointed out that this election company, smartmatic, had Venezuelans in it. And they were using a particular type of technology called HAT H A A T. Interestingly, 20 years ago, whoever her staffers were, whoever her source was, nailed it right on the head for one of the key technologies. Secretary of Treasury John Snow goes after these guys, they go after the company, and what they want to know is who. Who are you? They don't want to conceal, they don't want to bring to light that they're Venezuelans. They say, we're Americans. But one of. And when you looked at the ownership documents, which were easy to find, we found them. One of the partners was the dictator. Hugo Chavez's chief of staff, Omar Montia was on the documents. But everyone says, look away, look away, that doesn't matter. They then move to purchase a company in the United States called Sequoia out of Denver, Colorado, and they purchase it because it's been doing elections in America for 100 years. It has about 22 or 24% market share, but more importantly, it's in the swing states. And so it purchases Sequoia, but immediately, a group called cfius, the congressional body which investigates foreign investment, goes after them and says, who are you? Who are you? They want them to say who they are. They attempt to sell the company to themselves, to their own board. That fails, and eventually Sequoia, which has now got the source code, they've embedded it in their thing, sells their company to a little known company up in Toronto called Dominion. Dominion and Dominion is a small company that's been around for about six years, seven years, has only run one local election there. And just curiously, it's kind of an incubator company in a George Soros space right Very aggressive. So here we come. And that source code is now in the Dominion Company and their machines, and it is all over the United States. And they're able to use it in the first presidential election, 2008, for Barack Obama.
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What percentage of votes would you reckon were changed via these Dominion machines?
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Politely, that's not a relevant question. It's not relevant because what you do is you go to specific states because we have an Electoral college.
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Right, right.
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So what, you. You only need to go into certain counties and certain states, and you can change a national election by flipping three or four counties in Pennsylvania or this. That. So that question doesn't help you.
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Yeah, well, I mean, it's not a volume situation. It's more of a sniper driver than a sniper's, Right? That's right, exactly. But you still take out a lot of dignitaries.
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So they begin with this. With this model now, so. But what happens is Dominion and smartmatic, the Mothership, come to an agreement. Dominion will do elections in America. Smartmatic will do them globally. And they. Smartmatic now takes this machine and its source code and its techniques that are developed by hundreds of engineers. You have to understand the. There's a headquarters in Caracas, and you've got, like, 200 engineers. 100 of them are from Smartmatic, and 100 are from the CNE, the Consejo National Electoral. But what we also learn is who owns the source code. The source code is owned by the Venezuelan government.
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Mm.
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Not the company.
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Right.
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And they hide this with very, as Ralph was saying, very complex business constructions in places like the Netherlands or in Curacao.
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Why?
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Because they have tremendous corporate secrecy in the Netherlands. If you want to set up companies and you want to hide ownership, go to the Netherlands or any of those places that are under that law.
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Well, now, let's skip forward a little bit, because people know the name Dominion and they knew the lawsuit and the Fox News guys. And I don't know if Tucker Carlson got sued, but he got pushed out. Dominion sued or went after some folks who said that their stuff was bogus, and that was essentially doing what you were talking about them doing. How does that work?
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Okay, I'll tell you how it works. You're looking at patient zero, and patient zero one is my business partner. Okay. We are the people that went initially and walked into Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell and said they stole this election. We know the company, we understand the techniques. It was just going to take time to prove it.
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Okay.
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We were in contact with journalists at Fox News.
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Yeah. Sidney Powell got Sued as well. Right.
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But she didn't lie. Right. But the problem was, was they were under such tremendous pressure to prove in a small window of time, it was impossible. It took us four years to unravel everything. Her and Giuliani, Sidney Powell and Giuliani were under pressure to prove in 90 days that the election was stolen. They knew it was stolen. They believed what we told them. We had to go find witnesses, which took us years to get those witnesses. And we did, we went and pursued them.
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So yeah, to do a criminal investigation, the way the CIA does, or the FBI does, the way the FBI does, you recruit witnesses from within the criminal investigation.
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Enterprise.
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Enterprise. And that's what they had to do. And they were very successful. But it took them four years. And they recruited the witnesses who created the source code, who stole the individual elections, which as Gary explained, it's very complicated. It involves controlling because when a company comes in and is given the contract to run an election in a particular district, they're given all the data. So they know who the voters are. They know that they get what they call the logbook. They know who the dead voters are.
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The poll book. The poll book, they create the poll book.
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So it's a very actual, actually complicated plan that they develop. And when you talk to some of the guys who did it, who are now witnesses, they'd say we plan a year ahead of time. Right, right. So we know exactly. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna shift this amount of voters who are dead. We're gonna consider them to be still alive because we know they're gonna vote for the candidate that we want. We're going to use some mail in ballots, we're gonna use this percentage. And we're also gonna switch, shave off votes in different districts. And sometimes they do it, they shave the votes from the other candidate. So it's all done to disguise things from the public and from people who are monitoring these things.
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How much of this is possible without a complicit news. Mainstream media, they own the media. Right. So the question is this. So first off, we'll just add this on the pile of shit they were wrong about. They were wrong about. You take something like Covid origin, you know what I mean? Like, oh, it came from a wet market, or Hunter Biden's laptop, or January 6th wasn't the thing about all this stuff. And I know, cuz I speak for a living, if you brought up January 6th, I don't think it was an insurrection. They'd start going nuts, screaming and like, screaming and like. I used to see people go on talk shows and they'd sit down and they'd go, do you trust the results of the election or not? And if the person said no, they go, okay, get out of here. I can't listen to another word. Nothing you ever say will be valid ever again. Right, so this was one of those Black Lives Matter, Covid, just. We're gonna destroy you if you say anything that goes, anything that parts with the narrative. Now, is this just one more thing they turn out to be wrong about? But were they wrong about COVID Or were they sort of complicit in doing the bidding of. You know what I mean? Or just inaccurate? Were they inaccurate about this or were they doing the bidding of.
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Let's just step back for one second and understand who is in charge of this. The Venezuelan regime, which is called the Cartel del Solis. Okay? They're called the Cartel dos Solis, the Cartel of the Suns, because the Venezuelan army has suns on their epileps, not stars. And they're the logistical arm of the cartel. That cartel's value, that criminal enterprise is worth $2.7 trillion. It's the wealthiest, most powerful criminal enterprise in the history of the world. They have paid off everybody on all sides. They have come in here, they have worked with the Cuban intelligence service. They have people spying on us in large numbers. They have business people they've paid off. They own the companies. We have been infiltrated by a, by the Cuban Intelligence service combined. And they're very good with a criminal cartel that is wealthier than probably and has more disposable income than any world class intelligence service in the world. They get 10 times the money the CIA has to spend and they are using it very effectively. And so they have bought everybody off. So you asked a question earlier, which was. You asked about Fox News and Newsmax, right?
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Yeah.
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Well, I just want to say this.
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Dominion sued.
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Yeah, I know. And they've had settlements. We briefed them. They knew. They knew what we had FOX did and Newsmax. We offered them access to our witnesses, which they would not take. But instead they confessed and paid 787.5 million in the case of Fox to the cartel. Why would they get on their knees for them when they knew they could win a case and they were innocent? That's a really important question.
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Yeah, well, why?
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My question is, who paid for the settlements?
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Ah.
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Who paid for the settlements? Because if I paid for, if I had my insurance company pay for Something I knew I was innocent of. That would be, that would be insurance fraud.
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Right? Right.
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One or two. Someone else facilitated payments so we could make it all go away and it would smother the global effort to investigate.
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Yeah, well it was. So what it was in the world we're living in was a lot of see, I told you so.
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Right.
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So Bill Maher and everyone on the left did a victory lap because. Uh huh. You watch Fox? Well, Fox just got done lying about Dominion and what else are they lying about? And it was also, it was interesting. It was kind of like when the 51 intelligence experts came out and said, you know, Hunter Biden's laptop had all the earmarks. So that was their C moment. You thought this, but these experts said no. And you thought Fox was right. But why would they cut a check if they were right?
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Exactly. So why, why did those intelligence agents do that? Those intelligence officials. We have the same situation here, is that there, that there are people in our intelligence service who, who have been paid off by the cartel.
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So one second, we have to go back to one thing, one additional point.
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Yes.
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They saw the witness, they saw the evidence and they were offered the witnesses at a time when the primary was ongoing.
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Right.
B
And they were determined, the board of Fox was determined to stop Donald Trump.
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The board was. So is it safe or. I'll oversimplify it, but first things first. It's sad, but I look around and I go, I guess everything's just money now. I guess everything is just payola or some form of NGO, you know, the homeless, we spent $30 billion. Where's the money? They had a concert for the fire victim. I don't know where's the, we have a bullet train to Mercedes. Where's the money? I don't know where any of this group, they run an NGO and run a non profit for the homeless, whatever. So a, I guess we have to throw out every dream we had about dignity or humanity and it's all just cash. It's all cash.
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But it's heartbreaking to say that.
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Right? But you are correct. Right. And so when it's all just cash, you go, look, we can deal with the Bushes, they're in the system. We can deal with the Clintons, they're in the system. And we can deal with all the old school Pelosi's and the people have been there for 80 years because they're all ensconced.
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No, this is beyond that.
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What we can't have is a cowboy coming in here and toppling over Apple carts, perhaps, or maybe Trump plays ball, but we don't know, so we're not gonna take any chances. So we don't want him in here.
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He's not playing ball.
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Right. I get it.
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He's fighting.
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I get it. But even if you said, look, we know this is the devil we know, we know what we can get this guy, the other guy's an unknown commodity who's probably not gonna play ball, but we're not taking any chances.
C
Yeah. The part that they're not being honest about and that the American people aren't aware of is the foreign origin of this.
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Right, right, right. So is the Russia, Russia, Russia just. Smokescreen.
C
Smokescreen, yeah. Yeah. And part of this whole thing, it's like we're gonna shift attention away from what the real problem is. How many people in our country have heard of the Cartel del Sol? The Cartel del Sol, as Gary says, is the biggest criminal organization in history. They control the Sinaloa Cartel. They control every. All drugs that come into our country are controlled by the Cartel del Sol.
A
So is the Russia and Chinese. Whatever. Is that a sort of jingling the keys over here? How much?
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Let me explain.
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Well, I'll put it this way. I hadn't heard the word Venezuela in five years of arguing about election interference. It's Putin's handmaiden and puppet.
B
Let me just say this for a second. Look, the prime culprits in this are the Venezuelan government with the Cubans, who were their initial coachers, you know, and they're the force in smartmatic, globally. Excuse, but Dominion was partnered with the Chinese. The Chinese came in and helped them and financed them. But the Chinese and the Chinese are helping them in many different ways. And when we get further along, we'll talk about some of their platforms overseas that were intervening in the swing states here and the Chinese role in that. So you have to understand that China plays a much bigger role than the Russians. Were the Russians aware of it? Yes. Do they know the capability exists? Yes. Do they use it in the satellite states around them? Have they used it recently to change elections in places like Georgia?
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Yes.
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Okay. There's a whole other thing here. In addition to the United States, this software, this source code, has changed elections in over 72 countries in the world. Adam.
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And it is to the left.
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Yes.
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Or to the left as we know.
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It, unless you're on the right and you pay big money. Pay more money. But it's on the left, primarily.
A
Is it safe to say that China is quite a bit ahead of Russia? Technologically, in terms of their ability to do hacks and things of this nature. I mean, Russia can roll in and fire some missiles and stuff like that, but they're more analog than China is.
C
Well, they have more resources. They have more people dedicated to that.
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China does.
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Yes.
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But do not underestimate the Russian technical ability to penetrate our communication systems. They're more advanced than the Chinese are in that there are certain areas they're very, very good at and that they're second to none. Chinese have more resources, though.
C
Yeah.
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Where does. And I'm just gonna pause for one second. We'll look at Dawson and Andrew. I think we gotta tell Bobby that we gotta reschedule with him. Cause. Or I should say Robby, we got too much to get into here. I don't want to be disrespectful to him, but I don't want to cut him off when he calls in. Just tell him something and tell them we'll pick them up next week or whatever. Be nice. All right, so back in. All right, so what are we talking about in terms of who knows what and who's guilty versus sort of complicit versus a useful idiot? You know, like, you'd see all these guys, you know, you got these. Eric Swalwell or something, like. Right. And is he just an idiot who's sort of dope, who's going along with the party line? Has he been compromised? You know, like, Adam Schiff seems smarter than him. Seems a little more calculated than him. Nancy Pelosi, like Hillary Clinton. Like, what is Hillary Clinton comes across as this sort of fun mom or something. But she's got to be knee deep in all this stuff. She's got to know all this stuff again. Venezuelan. Never hear it come up. So where do people, like, where would Hillary Clinton kind of rank in this versus Rupert Murdoch or somebody?
B
Well, first off, the person who's most important that knows this, who's a public person, is George Soros. Because the Soros people are partnered with the Cartel del Sol and are partnered with the Democratic Party. Those are the three stovepipes here together that are colluding together.
A
Right. And what sources.
B
Open foundation.
A
Yeah, I know. That's like, what is the end game is the end game. Chaos is the end game.
C
Destabilize the United States, make us weaker, so that. So that they can fulfill their agenda, which is probably like a one world type of government.
A
And that's him? Yes, that's him. And the Democrats are like, look, we just. We need money. We'll do anything for money. So if you're gonna keep ours, we'll do it.
C
We want to put our candidates in power.
A
Yeah, Right.
C
And along the way, we'll help you.
A
Right, Right. So, Soros, the worst. Where would a Hillary Clinton land, or where would a Joe Biden land, or.
B
Where would Obama land their recipients of this largesse and this assistance? Look, Barack Obama, when he ran for office, Hugo Chavez told a number of people, I'm going to make a black man the first President of the United States. He's going to be on the left, and he is going to help us with our socialist agenda. This has been testified to here so far. We've got witnesses saying that that were in the room. Okay. And so understand that this is a deep conspiracy of the entire Cartel del Sol. They all know this, and they have sadly penetrated the United States. There are numerous officials in both political parties that are on the payroll of the Cartel del Sol and the Cuban Intelligence Service. Listen, I'm a career CIA officer. I did a lot of stuff, and I have never seen such gigantic counterintelligence problems in our. In the history of the CIA since 1947. We are overrun. What the United States needs to do to defend itself now is to create a very large and aggressive counterintelligence service. I've had meetings in the last couple of months at the DNI's office, the office of Director of National Intelligence. They asked me, what should you do?
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That Tulsa Gammer.
B
Yes. In her office. And I've told the people there, fire 50% of the people at the CIA immediately. Create a counterintelligence service immediately and begin cleaning this out. Because we're penetrated completely at the highest levels.
A
Well, I mean, in large numbers, not.
B
Just like one source. I mean, like three and four sources in each of these organizations.
C
And part of it is the result of what happened on 9 11. Right. So on 9 11, of course, we were attacked and all attention shifted to the Middle East.
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Right.
C
So Latin America in particular was just kind of ignored. And it gave an opportunity to Chavez and the Cubans to behave badly and expand, pay off key, recruit key people in our intelligence community that would. That would normal, whose jobs were to monitor these activities. And so nobody paid any attention to what was going on in Latin America. And when I said before, when all these governments started to switch leftists, nobody looked at this trend in terms of did electronic voting machines have anything to do with it? Right. And we're experiencing the same thing here in the United States. Now everybody's complaining about, in my District. The results just didn't make sense. Right. But like Gary said before, these companies control the audit mechanisms as well. So when you do an audit, you're hiring them. When Trump, when his campaign complained about the results of the 2020 election, he hired a company. They hired a company which was controlled by one of the member that one of the cartel.
B
Members of the cartel to do the review. Of course, there's nothing here.
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Right.
B
And they know that now, by the way, they're aware, we're briefing them directly.
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That they Trump people.
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We're briefing them directly, they are aware of.
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C
This is all linked by the way. We can't get into that. But the reason that there are warships off the coast of Venezuela is all linked to this.
A
They're just there now. Right.
C
They're now in a swift boat. And Trump has told Maduro and the Venezuelan regime, you're done. You gotta leave.
A
Right.
B
What is this about? It's about 300 billion barrels of oil. It is about power and money. And the cartel is attempting to survive right now. And how are they surviving right now? Let's talk about this moment. The cartel and members of this administration in the intelligence community and my old employer, the CIA are trying to promote an individual by the name of Miguel Rodriguez Torres, the former chief of the civilian intelligence service, the Sabine. They want to put him in there so they can keep the party rolling. They want cartel light. What do the Venezuelan people want? They want. Maria Karina Machada, probably the bravest woman on the planet, has been fighting this criminal cartel and with a very small group, she is still alive. She's promoting democracy. She wants a peaceful transition. I'm sure that when she comes to power, she'll try to do some sort of, like, truth and reconciliation, like the South Africans did. This is a woman who's a very bright lady, studied in the United States, by the way, beautiful English. And she's the person. They wouldn't let her run for president, so she came in as the vp. The man who was elected president is ill and is likely to turn that over to her. But she is the person that won an election. Efforts by the cartel and the cartel's sympathizers and agents in the United States at this moment, and shame on you people, is to put Miguel Rodriguez Torres in power. And we have to stop that. I'm praying that people in the Trump White House and those in the intel community can hear that I'm calling you out on what you're doing. Shame on you.
A
Well, also, there's a kind of part that transcends any of the technology, which is when you just see what Venezuela is doing, like how the average citizen is doing, it doesn't make sense that they would want to continue to vote legally for more poverty and more oppression.
C
Right. I think a third of the population has left the country.
A
Really.
B
Eight million people have walked out in rags and with shoes torn up.
C
Yeah, you go to. I was in Colombia a couple years ago, and the street, you know, it's like they're homeless people. You see families living on the street, and they're all from Venezuela. They just, they couldn't stand living there anymore.
A
And also, I Mean, there's two parts of it. There's a kind of corrupt narco version of it, and then there's sort of college students in the United States and faculty at Brown and Harvard. And for those people, it's like, what the fuck are you guys cheering for? Why do you want this?
C
Yeah.
A
Do you want to live in these societies? Why is this your raison debt? Like, I get it, you hate your dad or something, but, I mean, this is what you're.
C
Well, I think there's rooting for. It's been a whole campaign of, like, disinformation and propaganda that has been active in our country for 20 years. And it's funded in part by China and the same criminal cartel.
A
Is CNN just, like, getting direct payments or, like, how. Where does CNN come down with this? Because they were literally a cheerleader for all of it.
B
Let me say this. There was an interview on 60 Minutes where Anderson Cooper. And I've been interviewed by him many times. He's been very polite to me. He's a smart guy. He interviews John Polis, the head of Dominion, and Polis just lies to him again and again and again. And Anderson Cooper's just hitting them lobs. I mean, it was. You know, sadly, he's going to go back when this all is over. He's going to look at that. He's going to want that interview to have disappeared because John Polis knows what he's doing. He bought the system. He's colluding with the cartel. He's sued people. And so because he's won the suits, he says he's clean. He's not. He's done. He's going to go to jail. And of course, he sent me a letter and sent Ralph a letter, cease and desist. You know, because I've been on certain interviews, they haven't sued me. You know why? Because I have the source code, I have the technology, the witnesses. They don't want to go through discovery with me.
A
Right, right. So their greatest fears have come to fruition, which is Trump has come in and he wants to clean house.
C
Yes.
A
Now and again. You don't have to be an intelligence expert to know when you have Brennan and you have Comey and you have all these people, Strzok and Paige and stuff. And it's all, what do you guys. All. What's your vested interest in keeping. First off, you guys are supposed to call balls and strikes and keep the nation safe. Why are we finding texts and emails about. It's not gonna happen on my watch. I have A plan to get them out.
C
It's not your job.
A
It's not your job. Your job. And why don't most Americans understand you just take 51 intelligence experts, sign the thing. They had the laptop. There's no possible way they didn't know that. They clearly lied. Why are you so motivated? You're supposed to be an umpire, not a manager.
C
They're protecting something that's very rotten within.
A
Our part of the problem. There's gonna be jeopardy if that doesn't work.
B
Part of the problem for many of those people was they were green badgers. They were retirees on the payroll of the intelligence community. Their jobs were at stake. You know, so that's. That's, that's. And I hate to say that some. I know, some of those people I've known, I knew just a handful of them. Most of them were not real case officers or operatives. Most of them are part of the intelligence bureaucracy that never leaves Washington. There was only like two or three of them that were real ops officers. The rest of them D.C. people, but they were green badgers. They were working for the US Government when they did that.
A
So where does. Let's just do. Let's see. Let's have some fun. We got Obama, we got Hillary Clinton, we got Joe Biden, and you have. Then you're in a weird kind of Jill Hunter Biden thing, which is. I don't know how much they were doing, but I mean, you take Hillary Clinton, then we'll take Hillary and Bill and put them together and Biden and down the line till you get to Adam Schiff and guys like that. What number would you assign to Obama? If 10 was just guilty as sin and 2 is like, kind of didn't really know what was going on, but went along with it or listened to his handlers and was lied to by his own people, that'd be a one or two. You know, one is the teenage kid you tell to drive the car, and 10 is the guy breaking into the bank, pistol whipping the guard. You know, the guys driving the car think doesn't know what you're doing in there.
C
Right, right.
A
So where's, like, Obama? What number do we give to Obama.
B
On a one to scale one to 10?
A
Yeah.
B
Obama's a 10.
A
He's a 10.
B
He's a ten. Why? Couple of things. What did he try to do? He set up a realignment with the Iranians. He moved them massive amounts. He moved them a lot more money than is accounted for.
A
Oh, in terms of the cash drop off? Yes, yes. Like middle of the night.
B
Billions and billions and billions of money. Of dollars were sent to the Iranians under the obama system. And Mr. Geithner is going to have to answer to that. All they have to do, anyone who's interested, is do a Freedom of Information act on monies that were moved by the Department of Treasury during that period of time. And we can start to add all that up. So he's at the top. Look, he realigned the relationship with the Cubans when the Cubans were doing all of this. He partnered with them. They're his people and they're the left.
A
Yeah. I always say it's so sad because Obama was like, oh, first black president turned. We were all hopeful look horrible. And his wife turned, it'll be worse than him. I mean, just from a personality standpoint.
B
You know, in the intelligence world, we have, you know, stations and bases and intelligence platforms. And in Key west we have a thing called Giada south, which is technical collection in the Caribbean. The Obama administration gave the Cubans a damn tour of the place.
A
Really? All right, so he's.
B
Okay, so it's.
A
Is it ideological thing is he just kind of George Soros in a nice suit like is. Was Obama, does he hate this country? What is that?
C
He's like a Manchurian Candidate, I think. I think he was somebody who was groomed, who. He only served two years in the Senate. We didn't know him that well. He was a good looking, well spoken.
A
Clean Joe Biden said. Yeah, yeah.
B
But I would say this. Underneath him, the next person of interest who I put a nine on is John Brennan, the former director of the CIA, who was a person that I do know. I've met him personally over the years. We were both in the CIA together. And he is Obama's acolyte. He's his henchman, his key guy. There's other people like Clapper, Comey and Comey that aren't quite as smart. But John Brennan's clever and he knows the world and he knows the system. And he left the agency as the chief of staff to George Tenet and he joined the Obama campaign. Then he wound up in his first job as the Deputy Chief of Staff at the White House for counterterrorism and only later was moved over to be the CIA director. But John Brennan built, reorganized the CIA and has more control over the CIA, I would suggest, right now, than Mr. Radcliffe, who's the current director, because he placed all of the senior people that are in the Senior Intelligence Service, 80% of them appointed there by Mr. Brennan and are loyal to him, not this administration.
A
So Trump's right when he says it just. It needs to be purged.
B
Yes, he is.
C
And they're in the process.
A
I mean, it's. It's. It's a weird thing, but I took over the west coast for Howard Stern 15 years ago, 20 years ago, whatever. I took over. The program director at that radio station did not want me to do it. He had his own guy. He wanted to do it, but he was usurped. It went over his head, and I was put in there that the show that was supposed that he wanted to take over did not take over. They got moved to the drive time or afternoon or whatever. At a certain point, when I and my crew came in to take over, naively, we didn't understand why we're being sniped at and attacked and things. And it turned out that the guy who was in charge of the website, who the program director hired, was on the website sniping anonymously against the show and saying all kinds of horrible things about the show. We later on found out who it was through doing some intel. The whole point is I know what it's like to show up in an environment thinking everyone is working with me. And for me, that the guy in the corner office, my program director, the afternoon guys, my tech guy, they're not. They don't want you here. Well, that was actively fighting against you. And that was Trump's first term. And he walked in like I walked into kayla sex in 06, going, well, this is going to be great. And it. Fellas. Right. Next thing you know, it's a shit show. It's a shit. And I can't figure out what's going wrong because these guys are on my side.
C
Right.
A
But they're not. Yeah.
B
One of the first things that President Trump did was at CISA, the Cyber Infrastructure Security Agency. They fired 1800 people out of the 2,900.
A
Okay, second term.
B
Second term.
A
Not the first term.
B
Tulsi Gabbard just relieved 40% of the ODNI.
A
Well, she's a Russian asset, though, isn't she? Hillary Clinton said she was controlled by.
B
Putin, and so now they got to get over to the agency. Now they've been. But. But. Because they're the operators.
C
Yeah.
B
And they're the people that are. That sadly have been colluding with the left in the world against. I mean, I'm heartbroken to say this. I spent my life in that organization, but they are playing a very bad role in this current Crisis in Venezuela. They are attempting to help those that are cartel light. As I was saying before, instead of helping the people that represent freedom, which is Maria Karina Machada.
A
Well, also, you don't have to be an expert. You can just step back and kind of look at the vista and go, yeah. I mean, what are these guys doing? What are they doing?
C
What's their agenda doing?
A
What is this? All this? Why so motivated? And you can say again, it's the same with lab origin versus wet market. And Covid. You go, cnn. How do you know it came from a pangolin? And why are you and violent? And why are you yelling?
C
And why did you know immediately you were so sure?
A
By the way, there's a lab that makes this stuff up the street from the pangolin. I'm just saying it probably came from that. Not because I have a pangolin in the fight. I'm just doing what makes sense. Why are you so animated and you're an expert on Ivermectin. You know, it doesn't work, even though you just learned how to pronounce it.
C
And we've been using ivermectin for 200 years.
A
You keep calling it horseshoe paste. So, you know, they make brushes for people and for horses, but they're not all horse brushes. Some people use people brushes. Right, right. You get it. Like, it's not that hard a concept. So why are you guys so animated? Yeah, and that's what I do as a layperson. I'm like, why are you guys screaming so much about this stuff if you're not up to something?
C
Okay, so one symptom that how deeply seeded this was was that aid USAID.
B
Gave half a billion dollars, 6.9 billion to SEPS.
C
To SEPS, which was an NGO that.
B
Was in Arlington, Virginia.
C
In Arlington, Virginia, which has since dissolved, which was giving grants to these election companies to expand into other countries. So the American taxpayer was paying, not understanding what this was, because it's all hidden in these different NGOs and grants.
B
The American taxpayer financed Smartmatic intervention in almost 30 countries around the world where they stole the elections for the left. Our taxpayers paid for that.
A
Right. But you turn on the news and it's like, they want to cut grants for research for cancer for kids.
C
Well, this is the other part. Press, our investigative journalists, they don't exist anymore. I mean, and there are so many important things that are going on in the world that have been revealed. Nobody picks up on it. For example, seps. I mean, I haven't seen any big pieces in any. In the New York Times or anything else. I mean, this. What a scandal.
B
We only got those numbers because of Doge. Doge pulled it all together, and we were able to extract those from Doge.
A
Right. We, of course, Al went nuts for Doge.
C
When did we pay to invest all this money in election companies that we don't own that are stealing elections in other countries?
A
Yeah. The part of it that's vexing and disappointing to me is I get what the cartels are doing. They're trying to make money, and I get what the politicians are doing. They're trying to get money from people so they can win. And the people are in power, want to stay in power, want more power. I get all of that. It's the journalists that are the saddest to me, because not only are they not covering this stuff, they're actively trying to suppress those who are trying to cover the stuff. The notion keep doubling back, but the fact that you might even just suggest that Covid could have come from a Chinese lab, you would get shouted down, thrown off the Internet and by journalists, which is a weird thing.
B
We went to meet the media as we were doing this in the last couple of years, they were all afraid. They wouldn't report it. We went to an FBI officer in Washington, D.C. a senior person at their headquarters two years ago, showed them 95% of what we have now. That FBI officer said, Mr. Bernson, you need to flee the city. If the FBI sees what you're doing, they'll destroy your investigation. They will find a way to charge you. You and your business partner, they will charge you. So we said, okay. And they said, go to the Congress and go to the press. Well, the press wouldn't see us. And Congress, even people on the far right, Freedom Caucus members, they don't want anything to do with us. They were intimidated. They were afraid. They were afraid. We finally went to a U.S. prosecutor. One U.S. prosecutor in the country was willing to take it, do the notes, and sent those notes to the Office of Public Integrity, and we were told the FBI would come and see us. What they did was launch an investigation of us, and they pursued us. The one politician in America was a hero. Mark Wayne Mullins of Oklahoma. Of course, the guy's a UFC fighter.
A
Mm.
B
That guy took us to the campaign. He took the information to the president. Mark Wayne Mullins is a stud. That guy's a. He's a. He's a hero. And he was the one politician in America not afraid to tell the truth.
C
Yeah.
A
I mean, are we getting into this? No, not there. But are we starting to drift toward the Mexican, take the silver, take the lead kind of society where it's like, shut up, play ball and get paid, or you're gonna get the lead? Are we drifting? I mean, it seems like we're going that direction. They may be 40 years ahead of us, but they're not 200 years ahead of us. Right.
C
Well, if we're not careful, if we don't defend the principles that we stand for, if we don't clean up our intelligence agencies, if we don't clean up our election system and go back to paper ballots and IDs, it's not that hard. Our future is very questionable.
A
It's also insane that you turn on the news now and Andrew McCabe is on CNN weighing in on whatever subject, and I'm like, this guy's been completely discredited. Why? Fired for cause. He's fired for cause. Why are you inviting him on as an expert to weigh in on whatever Snacks or Bernstein or Woodward or one of those guys? Like, what are you professional liars doing here?
C
They're completely corrupt. Completely corrupt. And obviously somebody is paying for them to do this.
A
Where does. All right, so we covered Brennan. You know, he's probably. By the way, you can just look at Brennan and go, wow, that guy's got some thoughts in his head that aren't good, but he looks like someone drew an evil guy. There's that.
C
Look at Soros.
A
Oh, my God. Obama. Yeah. Soros is 41 years old. People don't know that. Look at that man. He's got the weight of the world.
B
Big player in this, too. On the Democratic side, Mark Elias.
A
Mark Elias?
B
Yeah, the lawyer. What about in and out of. See, look, they moved between smartmatic and the Soros foundation and the Democratic Party.
C
Lord Malik Brown.
B
Mark. Lord Mark Malik Brown, who was the number two at the United nations under Kofi Brown, has been the global chairman of Smartmatic through 90% of this. And he's now over at the Open Society Foundation. He got a promotion.
A
Well, once again, if somebody goes, whether it's the border, I go, look, I wanna build a wall. I wanna put the troops there. I don't want people coming over. And I go, none of that's gonna work. Now, listen to me. And then you don't do anything. Well, maybe you're not into border security. And my thing is, like, just have election day. It'll be one day. Have ballots, fill them out, show your id, go home.
C
Right.
A
If you wanna monkey around a Little bit and go, we'll make it a federal holiday and no one has to work that day. You can have all day to go vote. I'll go, fine. But if you start talking about mail in, and every time you bring up mail in, they go, what about the troops abroad? It's like, I don't know, is that way less than 1000 10th of 1,000,000th of 1% of the votes that come in. Okay, you say you want election security, yet every time I bring up something that would make the elections more secure, you fight tooth and nail. So maybe you're not that into it.
B
Yeah. When you see Ralph, when you see the book, you're going to see how the engineers created 14 different technical means to change an election. Inside the machines, they decide, dealing with the tabulator, dealing with the scanners, dealing with abilities to enter all sorts of mechanisms. But they can use 1 and 5, 3 and 6. They can mix and match. They never use the same. In districts that are adjacent. This is evil. Every one of those machines is communicating. I've seen so many people say, all those machines, they're not connected to the Internet. The people that are saying that are imbeciles. The machines are all manufactured outside of Beijing. They've been shipped to Taiwan, white labeled there and sent over here. The whole thing, it's laughable, but it's. So were using software, source code from Venezuela, hardware from the People's Republic of China. What could possibly go wrong?
A
And so let's get back to our culpability numbers game. So we're Giving Obama a 10. What would we give Hillary Clinton?
B
She was a victim of it. She thought she was gonna win.
C
Yeah.
B
She was probably told we got this in the bag, but I don't believe she had knowledge of the technical abilities.
A
Well, how did Trump win the first election?
C
They stole the election for Trump.
B
No, I don't. No, no, no. The engineers. I talked to the top engineer about this. He said the wave. He said it was like Malay and Argentina, because I'll be honest, I'm a conservative Republican, but if I thought 16 was stolen? And I would say it. And I went at them again and again and again about what happened in 16, because people will say, how did Trump win? And what he said to me, and it was three days ago, I sat with him again and went over it. He said it was a wave of voting. They backed off at the last minute because they thought they were gonna get caught. It was a wave effect. Milei understand something. The Kitcheners won election after election after Election for two decades down in Argentina. And even with the machine, they couldn't beat Milei because Milei was a right wing economist who came with a new economic vision. 80% of the country was exhausted. And so the argument that the lead engineer gave me the other day was he says, yeah, 16 or something, we'll go back over. But I'm telling you, Gary, it was a wave and they backed off. That's the only thing I can account for on that. Because understand something, Donald Trump is the man. In 2016, after he got selected, he indicted them all as drug traffickers. Months later, there's no deal there, he indicted all of them.
A
So you can shave percentage points, but you cannot stop a tsunami of votes.
B
You can change in the 3 to 5 range. 3 to 5 is maximum.
C
They really expose themselves.
A
3 to 5%.
B
3 to 5% in 2020. If it's more than that, you get caught.
C
I mean, they went bananas.
B
Oh yeah, with Biden. Where did that 15 million extra votes come from?
A
Yeah, right. Dawson had a question. Yeah, Gary, in regards to that, I have a couple of very specific kind of election.
B
Sure.
A
Questions. Not too long ago in Brazil, I think it was about two years ago, Brazil had a national election and a very popular right wing candidate lost. Crowds of people are through the streets. They elect an extreme far left person. The news of the protests, which seemed pretty outstanding, it seemed like Brazil's streets were full of Brazil's people. Was that election stolen?
B
Listen, the machines are everywhere in the world. In Brazil, though, they have no records that you can go over. It's all wiped clean. There is evidence that the machines have been used on the right and the left in Brazil.
A
Okay, all right, so we gave Hillary then. Does Hillary get a two or a zero? I mean, if Obama gets a 10, if she.
C
Two. Right, two.
A
So she was aware of it, but not aided by it.
C
It didn't work in her favor.
A
It didn't work. Was she aware that it was supposed to?
C
I think so.
B
I've heard the story that she slapped John Podesta in the face. You know.
C
You do.
B
That's what I heard.
A
Right. So not enough. If I may, really quick one follow up question. Do we have these Dominion smartmatic voting machines in Los Angeles County?
C
Yes, you have smartmatic. The worst.
A
Good for us.
C
Yeah.
A
So did Karen Bass really win?
B
I have not. We haven't had our engineers go over the numbers. We could look at them, but you know, here's what, here's what happens. Yeah, by law they're supposed to hold records they almost destroy them all the time.
A
They destroy all the time.
B
You know, and so they're doing that because it's. They don't want to get caught having the theft. It's better to get caught destroying them. And they destroy the records.
A
Well, again, Gary, you would. It's like. So it's like January 6th committee. It's like, what happened to all the records? Like, well, we destroyed them. Well, that doesn't suggest any. Anything nefarious.
C
In 2006, when Schwarzenegger was governor, Smartmatic was trying to sell their election machines to the state of California, and the Secretary of State did an audit, and they called in all these eight professors.
B
To do a review.
C
A review.
A
And they went, source code.
C
This software is garbage. It's infected all over the place. And they totally rejected it.
A
Really?
C
Then Jerry Brown was elected governor, they.
B
Changed the law, and you didn't have to submit the source code.
C
And so who was invited in?
A
Right. Smartmatic.
C
Right.
A
Now, another thing, as I understand it, the source code itself renders audits irrelevant and impossible. Could you explain how that works?
B
I'll give you an example of something. When you talk about audit, very quickly, just say you have absentee ballots. Just imagine that this table is a scanner, and you put your vote on there, and it takes a picture, and it takes a picture, and it takes a picture. It'll do 100 of them. And then when it gets ready to save those pictures, it throws that picture out and another picture comes in from outer space, Serbia. And then, boom, you take a picture and all the votes are for the candidate of your choice. And then when an audit occurs, by law, you're not allowed to look in the box. You have to audit the machine and the photos. So this is when I went back in the early part of our discussion. I talked about defeat, audit, defeat, audit. These are the things that they study. These are the procedures they set up. Look, they also set up that their source code is proprietary and can't be shared. You can't look in it. Yeah, you can't look in it because it's a criminal conspiracy.
A
So. So, numbers wise, you got Obama, then you got Hillary Clinton. Where's Biden in this mix? Or is he?
C
I don't know if he's. I would give him a 10, wouldn't you?
B
Look, he's.
A
He.
B
I'd put him right up there because, look, he sat in the basement. He campaigned around the country and in parking lots where CNN refused to take a picture of how many people are in the parking lot. I think the same 10 cars followed him around the country. There was nobody there. And so I have had no reporting through any of our sources that they have him. But the reality is he ran a campaign. I mean, you have to be a bloody idiot to not believe that he got 15 more million more votes than Obama and Kamala Harris. I mean, it's like there's no accounting for any of this. It's so wild that the 2020 election was because they were so afraid of being beat by the wave again in 16 that they came with everything but the kitchen sink.
A
Yeah. And is it also why they protested so much? If you just suggested that you didn't agree with the election outcome and they just went.
C
It's equivalent to the reaction to Covid. Right. So if you don't agree with our. That it came from a wet market, you're crazy. And you're not a science. You don't understand science, and you can't be part of the scientific community.
A
It was a. I had a weird flashback, but had Michael Cohen did this show and shortly after January 6th, and I was with January 6th, same way I was with Hunter Biden's laptop. Sometimes I was with. I just had an ass full of all you guys telling me what to think. And I told him, look, like everyone did. Unfortunate. I wouldn't have done it that way. I disagree with what they did, but let's not call it an armed insurrection. He started going nuts and screaming, wow. And for the first time in 15 years or my entire broadcast career, I'd say, I said to him, I'm going to hang up on you if you don't get it together. We weren't having a discussion about whether, was it a riot, was it an insurrection? He started coming unraveled like a crazy woman at her son's funeral or something. I'm like, where's all this come from? And by the way, I'm just saying nobody died and there was no weapons, so why am I getting yelled at?
C
Why is this an armed insurrection?
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Right. And he started going nuts. And I realized, God, a lot of these people were really infected. O'Reilly Auto Parts. O'Reilly Auto Parts. You know the jingle O o o O Riley. Yep. And they're in the business of keeping your car on the road. O'Reilly Auto Parts offers friendly, helpful service and the parts knowledge you need for all your maintenance and repairs. Always used, these guys. Always have. Back in the day, I used them on my truck, my Zuzu Trooper, when I was swinging a hammer for a living. And now, thankfully I use them when I'm prepping my race car, my vintage race car to go out and do a race. Got my water wetter from them just the other week to take up to Laguna Seca. It's radiator fluid for race cars. So whether you're a car aficionado or an auto novice, you'll find the employees at O'Reilly Auto Parts are knowledgeable, helpful and best of all, they are friendly. So you can stop by O'Reilly Auto Parts today or you can visit us@o'reillyauto.com Adam that's o'reillyauto.com Adam Shopify. Well, starting a new business that can be a little bit intimidating. Shopify. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e commerce in the US from household names like Mattel and Gymshark to brands just getting started. Get started with your own design studio. With hundreds of ready to use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store to match your brand style. Get the word out like you have a marketing team behind you. Easily create email and social media campaigns wherever your customers are scrolling or strolling. And best yet, Shopify is your commerce expert. With world class expertise in everything from managing inventory to international shipping to processing returns and beyond. It's Shopify. Right? Dawson, Turn your big business idea into Shopify on your side. Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com corolla go to shopify.com corolla shopify.com corolla and also I think in their world it was my world is like you can scream all you want. It still doesn't get Covid into the pangolin. I'm still at the lab, right? And you can scream as loud as you want and for as long as you want. I'm still at the lab, right? Right. Unless you bring me some evidence. But you're just screaming.
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I would just say something for somebody out of the national security apparatus. We know that in the United States, bioweapons research is done in one place in America. Fort Detrick. If there is a really bizarre disease that pops up within a 15 mile circle around Fort Detrick, run for your life. In China there's one place, Wuhan.
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Right.
B
How is it possible that Peter Daszak, the man who receives the money from Fauci, right, who paid Dr. Shi for the gain of function experiment, is selected as the man to lead the investigation? Let's send the murderer to investigate. That's what they Did. They sent Peter Daszak from Echo Health in London to China to inspect the Wuhan lab that he financed for. He's the guy that financed the thing. So you don't have to look very far. But you know, people get excited and they do whatever they can to sort of divert. And it's all I o. It's all information operations.
A
Yeah, I get it. It's sad.
C
It's heavy duty. IO it is heavy duty. And they're. They're doing it against the American people. And that's the tragedy. And the media is complicit. So sort of, we're at just a huge disadvantage.
A
I completely agree. And it's when Dr. Drew and others during COVID would say, why do you have to call everyone a pussy and a coward and tell them to get under the bed and call them sheep and insult them on the Internet? And I'd say because they're the reason why we're doing this. If Gavin Newsom closes the beaches and we all decide to go to the beach that day, then none of this is gonna go down. Cuz he can't enforce it. Instead, I'm walking down a horse trail in La Canada and you're yelling at me to put my mask on. It's 95 degrees outside. I'm walking alone. It's you cowards that enable this. They can do all the options they want, but without the throngs of useful idiots who somehow ignore common sense and think this thing came from a wet market because you're brainwashed. It would all fall on deaf ears if you guys had deaf ears. But you are the useful idiots. You're the foot soldiers in this entire scenario. And so I do blame you for being so soft minded.
C
Absolutely.
A
To not even use common sense when it comes to this stuff. Absolutely. And. And don't you know when you're getting lied to and played because you're getting fed? And by the way, they go right from Russia. Educated people, college degrees and cocktail parties. You guys went from four years of Russian collusion bullshit right into Covid.
C
Yeah.
A
And you just went right along with it.
C
And now we're supposed to forget it didn't happen.
A
Right?
C
Yeah.
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People have tried to dismiss I and my business partner for doing this investigation. I led the entry into Afghanistan. I led the response to the bombings in East Africa. I was in charge of the Khobar Tower bombings. I didn't fall off an onion truck on the way to this.
A
Right.
B
I have done large, complex investigations for years. I went into this with my eyes open. Trying to figure out, what is this? Because I got kids, I got grandkids. The most important thing we have in this constitutional republic is the freedom to vote and the freedom to choose who represent us. And it's the whole thing.
A
I agree. And that's the other thing, is what's in it for you or you or me to say super unpopular stuff that's counter narrative about something like Covid? Other than losing jobs and being ostracized? Other than.
C
Exactly.
A
That's essentially. Look, I used to go to Phil Rosenthal's house every Sunday night for pizza and wine and a movie screening. That was seven years ago, Right. Those days are gone. The folks who didn't speak out against Covid are still invited to the party. I'm not. So why am I depriving myself of pizza and first run movies unless I happen to believe what I'm saying? What's in it for us? And by the way, this thing where they go, oh, you know, you just in the back pocket of Fox over there with your mask. Fox has never paid me a penny. Fox doesn't pay me anything. And there's no Fox talking points because they never told me what to say.
B
Fox ain't happy that I'm here saying no.
C
Gary and Martine, these two government whistleblowers, they were very successful. They were making lots and lots of money, and they stumbled upon this. And they're both incredible patriots because they've risked everything, they've gone into debt, they had to fund this whole thing.
B
They had millions of dollars to fund that.
A
So there is no upside. It's the other thing, too. It's like, what is the upside to what we're attempting to do? Answer is no upside. With a bunch of potential downside and some real downside. Okay, what's the upside for the other ones? Well, millions of dollars in business as usual, billions. So they have. Well, I'm talking sort of more individually, but the point is they have every reason in the world to stay the course. We have no motivation for saying what we're saying about this or Covid or many other subjects that have come up in the last decade, but yet we do. And that's another thing to kind of look at. You know what I mean? Like when the Great Barrington Declaration. Was that the one? I come up, I make that up. Barrington declaration. Yeah. The one doctors. Yeah, yeah. You got a bunch of guys that are gonna get fired from Stanford, but they're taking a stand versus the system and cnn. So what's in it for them? Nothing. Other than being ostracized from their family and community. So I would tend to in general believe them more because they don't have. They have everything to lose and really nothing to gain. And I look at them as intellectually honest. I don't know why the public can't do that math.
C
Well, part of it is, I hate to say it, but laziness. I think we've become a very coddled spoon fed society. And these are what you're up against are very complex criminals. They study these systems, they create these election softwares to defeat, to disguise who even owns the source code. And it's complicated. The business systems are serpentine to try to figure out like who actually owns.
B
The company and they murder their opponents.
C
Yeah. And it took like four years of investigation for these two gentlemen to discover that. So it's not easy to get it right. And also you have to confront some pretty ugly realities, which is, hey, like in the, for example, with using the. The case of COVID hey, our medical community is not dependable.
A
Right.
C
They are actively shooting us up and deceiving us. And, and why is that?
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Right?
C
I want to be able to trust my doctor. I want to be able to trust my medical expert on tv. Right. I want to trust that my vote is actually counted and it's not manipulated in some studio in Venezuela and some creep, a dictator in Venezuela is determining the results of my elections. That's disturbing to me. And it's almost like it's a call to action. Right? It's like I can't just sit back and enjoy my football game on Sunday, you know, I better do something. Otherwise my country is gonna be gone. My kids are not gonna have freedom, they're not gonna have the life, enjoy the lifestyle that I do. They're not gonna be able to freely express themselves. And that's my responsibility. And people don't want responsibility. So where.
A
So we'll give Biden a ten or a nine and a half. What about like a Nancy Pelosi, an Adam Schiff, folks of that ilk, Chuck Schumer, where do they land? And by the way, I can tell you to my staff who's looking for that Michael Cohen clip. I was doing his show and he scrubbed it so it doesn't exist. This is not a thing everyone does. They take all the footage of them looking like and they just get rid of it.
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We had a.
A
They never apologize.
B
There are members of Congress that know this and it was an intelligence operation. What the Venezuelans did is they set up a thing called The Boston group, where a group of Venezuelan legislators and American legislators became associates and friends and they worked together. They used that to recruit members of them onto their team. Okay, they have recruited members of the State Department, they've recruited members of the CIA, they've recruited members of the of think tanks. These people are all on the payroll and they don't pay them directly out of there. They own so many companies. When you have $2.7 trillion, you set up, you put people on lobbying gigs, you put them on all sorts of things. They are all paid. And they are people on both the left and right that are on this train. And the ones I'm concerned about right now at the moment are not the left, it's the right. Those people trying to keep who worked with the cartel, Chevron. Chevron, bunch of whores. They funneled that money into what is known as a drug cartel for years. They kept them alive. And of course Exxon had to leave. Conoco had to leave, but not Chevron. They were in there and they did everything possible. Paying people to lobby this administration so they could stay in there. President has designated them as a specially designated terrorist group. The Cartel del Sol. Who's on, who was lobbying for them? You got to ask what law firms were affiliated with them. People need to look at all of these things.
C
Yeah, journalists need to look at it.
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Who's trying to negotiate on behalf. A soft landing for the cartel. Shame on you people. So this is the concern. Donald Trump has been a hero on this with. He understood that they did the massive money laundering, the billions. He understood that he had the election staff. He understood we were the original sources on Train del Aragua. I and my business partner, they took 300 guys. They trained them in a six weeks ops course, firing weapons, making fires, crypto, everything. Deployed them into the United States and had them set up 20 offices, bases around the States. Then they emptied the prisons in Venezuela and they sent 5,000 of them into America. Donald Trump knew and he acted. Trump has been my hero, the way he has conducted himself on this because he went right at what it was. A dangerous criminal cartel. In Venezuela, you have a prison, okay? And in that prison they have a special section and they have individuals in there that work for the regime and go out and assassinate people for the regime. And then they come back in and the train to Aragua guys are mixed in with them. And then eventually you know what they do? They withdraw the police from around the prisons and the center of political power becomes the prison in a city or in an Area. This is a very dark, dystopian view of the future. This is the type of stuff they were trying to do in the United States. Maduro wanted to have a lever to turn up the heat on us with criminal stuff. Trump acted against him. Trump's down there and doing this. I couldn't be more happy or more proud of the president and his activities against the cartel.
A
And so when you have, like, the mayor of, you know, I don't know, Denver or Minneapolis or Karen Bass or something, are they all just useful idiots or is.
B
They're committed leftists. They're committed to the left. They're committed to stopping anything that looks like, if anything, if Donald Trump says white, they say black. If he says anything, it's gotta be the other thing. And they wanna maintain power here. But the Denver case was. Yeah, that was one of their platforms that they set up. They set up. You know what they did? They. In a state. I don't wanna give it away, but they went and got themselves a car dealership. Train to Aragua, did. They bought 3,000 cars. Between 5 and $7,000. Between 5 and 7,000 each. And sent those 3,000 cars out to the United States to all their operatives so they could get around. They didn't have driver's licenses. They didn't have. They couldn't buy cars. They couldn't register cars. They set up their own. And the state was like, you guys can't buy any more cars. This is kind of ridiculous. You got 3,000 cars. So the problem is law enforcement has been slow. When I got the call on this, within 90 minutes, I got my people on this place shooting photos. I called the FBI. Three weeks, they hadn't been there. It took them three weeks to go and look at that place. We have been recruiting sources and we have been giving them to the Bureau and to Homeland Security because they're not that good at that stuff anymore.
A
Anymore.
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They used to be good at it. That's all I did in my life, was spot assess, develop and recruit members of hostile governments and terrorist groups? These guys here, not so good anymore.
A
Yeah. Dawson, you had a question? Yeah. In terms of culpability, are there maybe certain members in Congress who were aware of these voting systems, this machinery, and fought very hard to get them placed into major cities around the United States? Yes.
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And there are members of this. I won't give the name. We had one of our individuals who's a source for us walked into a congressman in the United States in the Democratic Party, explained about the election, theft and by the time he got home, because he was a Venezuelan, there was a phone call to him from inside Venezuela and said, if you ever walk into Congress or anywhere else again, we'll kill your family because they live around the block from us. That was a member of Congress that.
A
Did that, who dropped a dime. Yes, yes. And by the way, I think we have to tell Mayhem we're gonna scrub the news today, cuz we got too still too scintillating here. Apologies to Mayhem. So Trump is going to begin this. And Trump, I think what happens is Trump goes, they empty their prisons, they take all the worst, they bring them over here. And the CNN people go, okay, okay, all right, come on. These are hardworking folks that have come here for a better life.
C
What do you do when you're trying to tell people to educate the American people now in this media is telling you no. Yeah.
A
That's an insane. Well, first off, all the shit Trump.
C
Talked about, Trump never give any.
A
Well, they have the same evidence they had about Ivermectin. They don't know anything about it, so.
C
They give it to horses. Well, so what? It works for horses, right? It's used widely for all kinds of living beings, but it's effective.
A
I can't remember if it's hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, but Dr. Drew said to me there are only a handful of drugs that are okay to take while you're pregnant because they tell you you can't drink diet soda when you're pregnant. And Ivermectin is one of those drugs. So how dangerous could it be if you took ivermectin, if they let pregnant women take. And it's been around for 65 years.
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Saved my life.
C
Saved Mary's life.
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Oh, it did.
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I was very, very ill. I was traveling. I got Covid. So I drove from Miami to Tampa, where I live, checked myself into a hotel, locked the door, and spent 17 days in that room alone. My wife would bring food outside because I didn't want to infect my wife. My daughter was early. It was before the shots. And there was a man in Miami and he found two teenagers. And it was on day nine. I was there 17 days, and two teenagers drove from Miami three and a half hours up to Tampa. I crawled out of my bed, went out in the parking lot, picked up the Ivermectin and an antibiotic, and my blood oxygen at that point was 85. And it went up to 91 in one day, and then 92, and then 93 and 94.
A
Really?
B
And saved my life.
A
Wow.
C
Yeah.
A
Did not know that.
B
And two teenagers that I had never met, two Latin kids from Miami, got in a car and drove, you know, 250 miles to save my life.
A
Right? And we wanted to Fire Pharma. Dr. Drew told me, for the first time ever, he would call in some stuff, and the pharmacist would start questioning him, like, what are you gonna do with this stuff? And it's like, I'm the doctor. I call stuff in. You fulfill. You don't ask me what I plan on doing with it. That's what we created. It's utterly insane.
C
It's close to a police state. That's getting close. I mean, yeah, when a doctor can't prescribe a medicine for his patients and the system has to interfere.
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Right?
C
I mean, what the hell is that?
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Also.
C
And they get away with it.
A
What the hell is that? But stop calling the other side dictators if you're gonna be shutting the beaches down and telling pharmacists what they can and can't do. Maybe the dictator mantle isn't proper for the other side.
C
Why were we shut down for two years in California? Did that have any effect on anything except to screw up all our kids and interrupt their education for two years and bankrupt a lot of restaurants and businesses?
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I don't know. I feel like I want to see Rochelle Walensky talk about her kid not going to private school, which I. Sorry, summer camp, which I showed to Dr. Drew the other day, which is. It's insane when you go back and you watch this stuff. Like, watch Fauci not know anything about natural immunity. Watch him get stupid real fast.
C
They actually said this particular disease, it doesn't work right, or.
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No, when you really know someone is lying is when smart guys go, oh, I haven't checked. Or watch Fauci talk about when he's questioned by Rand Paul about closing down Black Lives Matter rallies, and he goes, well, that's not up to me. I mean, I don't know anything about that. You'll see the face of a guy who's compromised in that. And Rochelle Walensky, when she's talking about her kid not going to summer camp, it's the biggest pack of bullshit you've ever heard in your life. And she ran the CDC.
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Yes. In the election world, the Dr. Fauci of the election world is this fellow Krebs who is at cisa. He was the head of the Cyber Infrastructure Security agency. So in 2020, when. When. When you know Everyone realized this was stolen. Of course. He's calling on the phone, smartmatic and Dominion and coordinating his responses with the criminals.
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Right, right.
C
He's the federal official.
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He's the federal official. He's supposed to be monitoring, defending our country. And he's on the phone with the leadership of Dominion and smartmatic to doing the answers.
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Okay, yes. And this is the part we're living in because this is the time we're living in because you say, I think Covid came from the lab. And they go, well, I think it came from the wet market. And then you get into this dispute and people say you're dumb or liar or racist or xenophobic or something. And then at some point, some news thing comes out and they go, the grand poobah of the CDR who runs the infectious disease department out of Bethesda, Maryland, just gave a statement saying it definitely came from a pangolin. Now, are you gonna apologize? And you're like, well, if the expert from Bethesda. Yeah, they're all lying. That's the part they don't.
C
That's right.
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They all lie.
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Here's Rochelle Walensky, head of the cdc, talking about her teenage son not getting to go back to summer camp. And a great and powerful lie, because listen to all this detail.
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With regard to camp, I have a 16 year old.
C
Every day, every year he comes home.
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From camp and he writes the number of days until he returns to camp the next year, this year.
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All right, pause it. Okay, first off, she's lying. There's no 16 year old on the planet who checks off every day. He writes down the number. The day he gets back. You don't understand. The day you got back from camp, you start writing the number. 359. 358. So look how animated she is. Also, we don't need a story, bitch. You can just tell us. I don't want to open camps. But you have to give us an anecdote about your son who seems like he has autism. If that's what he does. That's a severely autistic child as a teenager to mark up everything. But she's so animated. She's gonna tell us this story about her son who wants to go to camp so badly that he marks off days even 10, 11 months out. But when it got to the last day. Let's just listen to what she said.
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Until he returns to camp the next year. This year, it got to zero. And I told him he wasn't going. I want our kids back in camp.
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All right, pause. No, you don't. No, you don't. Number two, it's pretty cruel to wait to get to zero. Yeah, really. He's got the war, he's got the canoe on the roof, he's got his backpack, he's walking out the door. Why not tell him the Friday before? Waited till it got to zero. This year, she waited until it got to zero. This bitch is lying about all of this.
B
She wants to just deliver.
A
Maximum disappointment.
C
Tell you the end. That he, like, committed suicide.
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He already applied his mistake. Mosquito repellent. When I stopped him and I said, come back. So she let him go. Now she then says she wants to reopen camps. She doesn't mention whether he got vaccinated or not, even though the vaccine had come out by then. And by the way, young people, young healthy people who are going to summer camp and canoeing and archery and outdoors and convening with nature, that's the healthiest place they could have been. Absolutely. And the safest place they could have been is a place you shut down.
C
Like the beaches.
A
Right, like the beaches. But we'll let her just finish. Sorry. Start from the beginning. I'll let her run through, and then we'll. Then we'll yell some more.
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I want our kids back in camp. We now have 38,000 new infections on average per day. Last May 11, it was 24,000. And we sent a lot of kids home and camps were closed. The camp guide in guidance is intended to get our kids to camp and allow them to stay there.
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There's camp guidance that's intended to get the kids to camp, but she just took her kid back from camp and wouldn't let him go to camp and shut down. She just shut down the camp. So what is the guidance part? Lying queen. And by the way, where is she now? She's at Harvard. Everybody come on down. Harvard's like, hey, we have a bunch of ne' er do well liars who have titles who hurt America. We got a position for you. Come on down.
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When you go back to. And you look at things having to do with the elections, the stolen elections, and you look at either Dominion or Smartmatic, what you see is a team of six Venezuelans in Florida and a team of them in Georgia and a team of them in Pennsylvania and a team of them in Michigan and a team of them here. And when they stole the election up in 2006, the very first one, there's two dozen Venezuelans in Cook County. And I was. Three or four days ago, I was down in Miami, dealing with a man that just ran for president, that lost in Bolivia. He lost the election and he was in first going into the first runoff. And of course, they stole the election from him. And then when I explained that this was the Venezuelan machine, he said there were two planeloads of Venezuelans that were here that flew out two days after the election. I said, just need to go and get their passport copies of their passport passports, because they're all smartmatic. And cne, well, they changed the name of the company in Venezuela. It's no longer smartmatic, it's called Exclay. But it's the same people. It's just a name change. You know, the criminals remain the same and that in the cne, but it's, it's so obvious on all of this. And so there's one thing that we hadn't talked about. The man in Dominion, this John Paulus, had a college roommate who's a Serbian guy, okay? And so Dominion opened a Venezuelan, or they opened a Dominion office in Belgrade. And Belgrade was communicating with all of our swing states and they had 98 people with system administrator status that were Serbians, Venezuelans and Chinese. That sounds like a great group of people to be the system administrators for our election in the swing states that decide who's going to be president. And the servers were all Huawei servers, and they were communicating directly with Hong Kong. Okay, people, this is all in the book. Anyone who tells you that the elections in the United States have not been stolen for the last 16 years or, you know, multiple cycles, is either lying to you or they're an imbecile. And we have all the evidence. We did a website, by the way, it was called Stolen Elections Facts that has the history of all of this and has. It's very well detailed. That's one of the reasons I've been sued, you know, and it's because we have this. And I have. For anyone who wants to sue me, I have a dozen witnesses. I have the smart code, source code and everything. So please, come and sue me.
A
Yeah. Now the proof is in the pudding with the suing. It's. It's sort of like when. When a tabloid accuses somebody of cheating on their wife or being gay or whatever it is they're doing, and someone goes, is that true? Is that not true? If they never get sued, there's a chance, real good chance they're true. Because if I get outed as gay and I'm not, then I would sue.
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What I liked was those guys that Hunted down. John Edwards. Remember the guys were outside the bathroom and he was holding the door and they were trying to break the door in to get to him. They were with the tabloid. What was that?
C
National.
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They were with the National Enquirer. So they put the story up but nobody believed him because it was a National Enquirer. But he really was in there and he was visiting his girlfriend who she got pregnant and had the baby and the whole thing. But no one believed them. And they tried as they might, you know, mightily to get the world to know what was happening, but. And he called the police on them from inside that bathroom. And the police made those two guys go away so he could come out and they couldn't get his picture.
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Forget mail in.
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Forget mail in. Single. Single. If you're a single day.
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If you have a disability, give them a mailing. They've got a disability.
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Right?
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Fine. If someone's ill or something, it's not convenience.
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Right? Absentee.
B
Absentee ballots.
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Yes. And we don't want to wait four months to figure out how you don't.
C
Need to be announced that night.
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That night. Right.
C
Not like happened in California with the mayoral election.
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Right.
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But even when you do those, remember when you tabulate those things, if you. If you're transmitting things People can steal them if they. There's. Look, there's theft in the system from one end to the other. So you have to. We have to have both political parties have to be present and they have to be witnesses. You can't have people locked out and put paper things up to hide what you're doing. You can't be pulling suitcases out from under desks and all of this nonsense. Yeah, it's, you know, it's, as you said, simple paper one day if you want to do, and then limit the mail in. Mail in is just an invitation for theft. It's another mechanism for theft. That's all it is.
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And no more ballot harvesting like they do here. Again, it's real. It's real simple in terms of everyone. I mean, be intellectually honest here. If, if one group is saying, we want paper ballots, we want same day, we don't want ballot harvesting. They're the ones who are more interested in accurate elections. And the ones that are fighting against presenting an ID are probably the ones that would like illegals to vote. And then how much of that is census and illegals and voting? And how much of that is importing votes via an open border?
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A lot. I remember in 2012, some young white guy was like 23 years old, walked into a polling center and said his name was Eric Holder.
A
Really?
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And he said, yes, I want to vote. And I said, okay, go vote. He says, oh, I forgot my license. No problem. You can go vote anyway. Well, no, it's in the car. Should I go back out? Don't worry about it. You can come in and vote. You said to us, you are Eric Holder.
A
Yeah.
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And of course, he was not Eric Holder. He didn't do the vote because he didn't want to be convicted. He was trying to prove. Prove a point.
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I tried to vote. I've told people this story here, but it's pretty incredible. I tried to vote here and I said to the person who was trying to look up my information, I said, well, let me just show you my id. He said, no, no, put that away. He was a young volunteer, and then he kept saying it was really a Curb youb Enthusiasm skit. I'd say, what's the address for the thing? I go, it's my money manager's address. It's on my license. It's right. Put that away.
C
Wow.
A
I go, all the info is right there. He goes, no, I can't accept that. So what is it? Is it C O R? I go, no, C A R O, C A C R. C O R. I'll put my license down and you can just look at it, and then you'll have the address and the ERIC code and the correct spelling of my name. And he goes, I can't accept. So in a world where you can't get 10ft without pulling out some form of ID, I travel almost every weekend. It's like, pull it out, pull it. I'm pulling it out at the counter. And then you go through security and they want to see it again. And whatever this thing is. Get to the hotel, check in the hotel. I travel with a guy, he always checks in. But I can't just stand there. They need my id. Cause I'm getting a room. It's under his name, but okay. In a world where you can't get 10ft without an ID, I'm pushing it at this guy and he's repelling me. He's pushing it back at me going, I can't look at your id. I can't ask you about your id.
C
This is a law.
B
The system has been set up to fast.
A
His supervisor came by, and after 20 minutes of us not getting anywhere, and she sort of said, what's the problem here? And he said, well, he's trying to give me his id, but I keep telling him I can't take his id, and she says, no, you're allowed to take his id. You can't ask for it. So I can present. Of course, a guy's 22 and confused and doesn't want to get into trouble. An hour of training. Right, Right. But the fact that there is a rule where every person who works at every airport and every hotel and every liquor store and every place that sells lottery tickets is allowed to ask you for an id, but not the guy who's working the voting station. Yeah, that's nuts. If you think about it, it is nuts. And the concept of people can't. If you can't. If you can't get an id, if you do not possess an id, then you cannot be involved with our society. You literally don't exist.
B
But it's not nuts. It was set up that way purposely to facilitate election theft.
A
I agreed, but I mean, like, at a certain. You know, it is my. I always use this one. It's the officer saying, pop the trunk theorem, which is like, I'm sitting in the car and the cop pulls me over and, you know, you got a tail light out and something smells in your trunk. Could you pop the trunk? And I go, no, I'm not popping the Trunk. And he goes, well, what's in the trunk? And I go, nothing's in the trunk. It's empty. There's a space saver spare in there. Okay, well, go ahead and pop the trunk. No, I don't have to pop the trunk. It's like, at a certain point, why aren't you popping the trunk?
C
Right?
A
There's something in the trunk. If you don't have a body in.
B
There, pop the trunk.
A
Why are you fighting so much about an idiot?
B
Right.
A
When, by the way, you would go ballistic if I tried to buy ammunition with no ID. Or cigarettes with no ID.
C
Right.
A
So you do love IDs.
C
In certain situations, we don't insist on IDs. We didn't come up with this idea.
A
Yes, that's your thing. And everyone who's traveling to your convention needs to present an ID in order to make it in, for security reasons, of course. So why, again, you're arguing against the id? You're also arguing against the border wall, Right? Am I to think you're for secure elections and for secure border when you're arguing against things that are there to prevent that?
C
Right. Very practical.
A
Very practical. Basic stuff. So I am now dubious. That's the way I work. I don't think you want this. You should be. You know what I mean? And I'm hoping that the rest of our society shares my dubiosity with this stuff. But it's weird. They're very. I think it's a kind of a narcissism, which is. We're so hived off in what we believe.
C
Yeah.
A
And it would be in the pecking order of, let's just say, in the pantheon of progressives eating shit and being wrong. Hunter Biden's laptop, that's a hit. But they can take it like they've done, you know, Covid origins. Okay, fine. Their beloved Fauci, okay, maybe. But stolen election, man, that is the biggest, bitterest pill to swallow, because that has been the weapon that they've been clubbing everyone over the head with for the last. They even kind of begrudgingly got past Russian collusion, although they're still sort of. Well, there were few things, but not enough. Whatever. But eating shit on the stolen election. And I would just go, look, it's just a succession of things that you've been wrong about, and this will be like the 14th thing you've been wrong about. So just look at it that way.
C
You're on a roll by now.
A
Just be used to it.
B
What they did was, though, by stealing national elections. They're stealing control of a $28 billion trillion dollar economy. $28 trillion economy is the American economy. The direction of the economy, the expenses of the Pentagon, the expenses of everything. Direction of our planet is tied to elections in the United States. That's what they have stolen.
A
And it's also why they went berserk with Doge. Right. Like, I'm a. A layperson and one. I'm sure there's a bunch of fat and waste. Let them go try to clean it up. Why are you going insane?
C
That's right. Yeah. If we don't need it, why are we paying for it?
A
And then they get into this sort of like Orwellian. They're going to get information on individuals and then sell that. I'm like. Or they're going to cut a bunch of spending for stuff we didn't really need anymore.
C
Right, Right. So let's not buy Teslas anymore.
B
What they did find out was that the government was subsidizing the theft of elections around the world.
C
Yeah.
B
And Doge didn't even know that. They found that. They put the data out and we were able to fish it out of that.
A
Right. So is this. Let's see if we can prognosticate as we round the bend and head toward home here. Trump is going to do as much as he can do, and he's already got the flotilla heading over to Venezuela and all that kind of stuff. So the timing is right for you guys to talk about this. But he's 79 years old. He's not gonna be here forever. And there's nefarious forces and they're gonna. They're like rust. They never sleep. Is this thing going to have to be passed on to a JD Vance or some of his ilk to continue the work?
B
Here's what I would say. If you look at this administration and if you look at the Defense Department, he's got two guys over there, Hegseth and Dan Cain. I mean, Dan Cain. Dan Cain was the guy that did ISIS, the caliphate.
A
He erased. Did ISIS.
B
He erased those guys. There were like 20 or 30,000 of those guys over there that built a thing called the Caliphate during the Trump administration. And Dan Cain was a commander that went over there and they. All of a sudden they were gone. Okay, they were gone because he did complex warfare rapidly, quietly, and it was over. And it changed the face of the Middle east, getting rid of them. He's now the Chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I would expect him to duplicate what he did to isis. I would expect that he would come with at least seven days of, of drones and airstrikes and this and that. I would expect that.
A
Where at you're talking about against Venezuela?
B
Against the cartel, Cartel del Sol.
A
Yeah, right.
B
Cartel del Sol train to Laragua. They're all together. Not only is that there's a drug organization with Druze, 120,000 of them in Venezuela, Hezbollah is there. Every bad group that you can imagine on the planet, the Iranians are there at a factory building, really complex drones at a military industrial complex there. I mean, there's a lot of really bad things going on there. And the cartel has partnered with all of our enemies. So I suspect that Donald Trump is going to use the Department of Defense to deal with those things. And I would expect that Maduro and those guys have been told to leave. They probably won't leave. They'll probably flee south and they will all be disappeared if they try to do that. If they flee, I hope they stay and fight. Please cartel do so stay and fight so that you can all be eliminated. But he will probably flee in the first few hours. They would probably flee. They have plans to flee already. If the US military and Donald Trump decide to enter Caracas in Venezuela just for a short time to restore normalcy there, I think the only thing that would slow the Americans down is the traffic.
A
So will Trump then declare that these drug cartels are terrorist organizations?
B
He's already done so.
A
Oh, he already did it.
B
Yeah. They're specially designated terrorist groups. He did that 10 days ago. Two weeks ago.
A
Oh, two weeks ago. Okay, so I'm behind a lot of arguing over that. Yeah.
B
So he has, listen, he doesn't have to arrest them. He can kill them with missiles.
A
Right. So once he does, and when he took out that swift boat that was carrying the drugs a couple days ago yesterday, was he able to do that because he designated the terrorist?
B
Yes. Those authorities allow him to do that.
A
Right. So two weeks before he would not been allowed to do that.
C
So he's preparing. He's preparing and he's doing. He did that yesterday to show the Venezuelan regime like I mean business and this is what I'm gonna do.
A
Right. And so we don't need. We're not on an eight year plan. We're on an eight month plan.
B
No, I think that you're. I think that in a new Venezuela, the Venezuelan regime will bring in international peacekeepers to help them. They'll have to because, you know, the country, the army is a cartel. The security forces can't be used. Okay. And they're making plans on how to deal with this. They don't want a situation like Iraq. They will. If you do something like the South Africans did, truth and reconciliation, people can confess their crimes and not go to jail, but you can't be involved in the government. You can't run for office or be involved. And that's probably, hopefully the path that they'll take. But the leader is the woman who won the election there. Maria Karena Machada is going to be dealing with the United States directly and will be dealing with other countries. She'll get plenty of aid. Look, when have you ever seen a country that had 300 billion barrels of oil in the ground getting ready to rebuild? It's going to be the largest reconstruction project in the hemisphere. American companies will go in there and get a lot of business. They will be our best partners, our political partners. Venezuela, in the old days when PDVESA was actually functional and doing about 2.5 to 3 million barrels of oil a day, had a first world banking system. This cartel turned it into a criminal laundering system.
A
Right.
B
You know, there's over, there's almost 100 banks involved in this laundering of money. A hundred around the world that were partners of the cartel.
C
But to answer the other aspect of your question, the longer term problem is our country rooting out the corruption here. The people who cooperated with the criminal cartel, the people who were directly doing their bidding and also to rebuild our. We need to completely rehaul our media system. How can we operate in the world if the American people can't get the truth about what's going on?
A
Yeah, I agree. But I think the media in terms of the overhaul will sort of take care of itself.
C
It seems to be starting. I agree with that.
A
Yeah. I mean, somebody tweeted an article about the New York Times has thoughts about the new CDC direction and Robert Kennedy Jr. And I just wrote back, well, it's the New York Times. Why do I have to read this article? I already know what they think about this and I'm not gonna believe it. And it doesn't mean some of it's not correct, but they've lost their credibility.
C
I think it's a question of waking up the American people and going like, okay, you know, these media companies have been feeding you garbage for years. You can't depend on them. You gotta demand something else. Right. You gotta look for something else. And also you have to be use your own critical thinking to address evaluate issues yourself. Whether it comes to election fraud. Or whether it comes to Covid. And you have to be involved in the work.
A
I agree, but maybe we differ a little bit here, which is that the CIA and the FBI and the cdc, I need them to be. And I can't think they're corrupt and they have to do a job and they have to serve the American people. CNN and MSNBC can just keep lying until they slough off and just sort of die. And people go to Joe Rogan to get their information. They're going to just talk theirselves out of business.
C
I agree.
A
And they've already done it. And Gutfeld's number one in late night. And by the way, I've been to all the late night shows and I've been to Gutfeld. Look, Gutfeld has a staff of like two riders and a budget that is 1/10. And when I say 1/10, I mean like 1/30 of what late night guys. When you see a late night show and they win an Emmy and you see Jon Stewart go up there, Stephen Colbert go up there and they go, we've won for best riding. You see 23 guys walk up on stage. Those 23 guys are all getting sitting six figures. Those are the writers. Gutfeld's got a couple guys remote in like Cherry Hill, New Jersey, and his studio isn't even his studio. It's the one they use during the day where for Fox at 3 o' clock and then they pull out bleachers like it's a high school gym and they put 45 people in there. There is no budget. He's number one.
C
Right. And Colbert had like 200 people working.
A
Yeah. Nobody.
B
The.
A
The thing is, we don't need to intervene. That's going to happen that way.
C
I agree with you.
A
And that's good. And part of it is going to be.
C
But I guess my point is that the American people need to understand that we live in a world where there are lots of dangers, that there are threats. And it's nice to say, oh, we don't have to pay attention to that. We can just do what we want to do and not, you know, it's disturbing. So let's not even read about it. Let's not inquire about it. But we can't afford to do that because there are people in the world who want to destroy. Because we're the most, the freest country in the world and we stand for something and a certain form of government and free expression, and they find that abhorrent. They want to destroy it.
B
It's Global, global competition. The Chinese have 1.5 billion people. We have 350 million. They think, why should those guys with, you know, one fifth our population be determining the role of the world? Their plan is global dominance. And they play the long game and they team with people against us. And so this is, this is, it's, China's a completely, it's a, you know, a five hour show.
A
Is Mexico next? What, what are we doing with the cartels in Mexico?
B
Mexico, look, the cartels in Mexico are the transportation cartels. Now they make, they made a lot of money on the, moving the people across there. The other problem with the Mexican cartels is they have such large numbers of guys under arms. Mexico is a failed state. And it is, it has, you know, it has cartels with 100,000 guys under arms here and 80,000 there. It's a big, big, difficult, complex problem. And I'm hoping, and I think that the president of Mexico has reached out to Trump. She has and she's making an effort to try to find common ground because she's at risk. The cartels are a danger to her and to her political infrastructure. And she doesn't want a civil war in the country. She's barely. If you enter into politics in Mexico, boy, it's dangerous. It's real dangerous.
A
Well, the silver, the lead. Ralph. Gary, always, always interesting. I'm so glad you're able to come back, Ralph, and bring Gary with you. The book Stolen Election. Now, Dawson said one thing, but this reads another. So I just want to make sure the plot to destroy democracy.
C
There's another story here that's not the right cover. So this book was supposed to come out a year ago and the publisher, who will go unnamed, held it up for a year and had no plans to actually put it out. And so I had to basically self publish it.
A
Oh, well, I'll tell you the thing that I've experienced a little bit is the Manhattan book publishers. There is no more leftist elitist than that group. I mean they probably, they're probably more left and more elite than college professors.
B
This was a capture and kill effort. I can say that because I'm not the author.
C
This is a publisher who was begging to publish this book. It was supposed to come out before the election and like a week before suddenly it stopped and it couldn't come out. We, Gary and I both addressed all the questions of him and his lawyer and he just kept holding it up month after month after month. And yeah, it wasn't going to come out. So I said, well, I'm going to put it out myself. And he basically said, well, you can't do that. And I was like, you know, watch me. I'm gonna put it out.
A
So again, the useful idiot part of this is not to be ignored or underplayed. And that's kind of what you're dealing with there. Not in a cartel, not on the payroll of a cartel, yet doing the.
C
Bidding, the bidding of these people, whatever the system.
A
Yeah. And again, we just lived it with COVID Yes. All right, so what is when I say, well, just go get stolen elections. Stolen elections. The takedown of democracies worldwide.
C
There it is.
A
There it is. All right. Thanks, guys. Enlightening. I'm gonna be in Charlotte this weekend doing stand up comedy at the Comedy zone. And then September 12th 13th, El Paso, Texas, doing a couple shows there at the Comic Strip. And then Albuquerque and off to Flagstaff. Just go to amcroll.com for all the the info. Until next time, Sam from Ralph and Gary saying mahalo. Pick up your phone and leave us a voicemail. The number is 888-634-1744 and get tickets to see Adam Corolla at AdamCola.com this September, CBS Hits are streaming free on Pluto TV. For this month only. Stream full episodes of Matlock.
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Episode: How Elections Are Stolen with Ralph Pezzullo and Gary Berntsen
Date: September 4, 2025
Main Guests:
This episode dives deep into claims of global election manipulation, focusing on the infiltration of electronic voting systems by foreign criminal cartels and intelligence agencies—primarily Venezuela, Cuba, China, and Russia. Adam Carolla hosts returning guest and investigative author Ralph Pezzullo and, for the first time, decorated former CIA officer Gary Berntsen, who share details from their four-year investigation into election fraud and the organizations behind it. The discussion explores the origins of compromised election technology, the complicit role of media and government officials, and the implications for American democracy.
[02:01] Ralph Pezzullo:
[05:19] Pezzullo:
[09:24] Pezzullo & Berntsen:
[12:20] Pezzullo & Berntsen:
Berntsen [17:39]:
“Dominion will do elections in America. Smartmatic will do them globally... The source code is owned by the Venezuelan government, not the company.”
[23:15] Berntsen:
Carolla [25:09]:
“Why did those intelligence agents do that? We have the same situation here, is that there are people in our intelligence service who have been paid off by the cartel.”
[19:28] Pezzullo:
Berntsen [68:29]: “Their source code is proprietary and can’t be shared. You can’t look in it because it’s a criminal conspiracy.”
[28:13] Berntsen:
A recurring theme—Adam challenges the guests to score political and media figures (Obama, Clinton, Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, Soros, John Brennan, etc.) on a 1–10 scale:
Berntsen [56:27]: "We went to the press…they wouldn't report it. The press wouldn't see us. Congress, even on the far right, [was] intimidated."
Carolla [76:42]:
“You are the useful idiots. You're the foot soldiers in this entire scenario.”
[104:17] All:
Berntsen [62:24]:
“When you see the book, you'll see how the engineers created 14 different technical means to change an election...The machines are all manufactured outside Beijing...using software from Venezuela, hardware from China. What could possibly go wrong?”
“People that are...running drugs, human trafficking, or whatever you’re up to—you want business as usual. You don’t want disruptors.”
“The Venezuelan regime...the Cartel del Sol...is the wealthiest, most powerful criminal enterprise in the history of the world. They have paid off everybody on all sides.”
“A third of the population has left [Venezuela].”
“He’s going to want that interview to have disappeared, because John Polis knows what he’s doing. He bought the system, he’s colluding with the cartel.”
“It’s the officer saying, ‘pop the trunk’ theorem...At a certain point, why aren’t you popping the trunk?”
The episode concludes with a consensus that the only way to restore faith in elections is through a return to paper-based, in-person, ID-mandated voting, and a mass overhaul of corrupt institutions. The hosts warn of dire consequences if action isn’t taken and urge listeners to remain skeptical, seek out independent voices, and demand accountability from U.S. institutions. The guests’ new book, Stolen Elections, is positioned as a roadmap to understanding and dismantling these global conspiracies.
Summary by: The Adam Carolla Show Podcast Summarizer (2025)