Janiyah Thomas on How the Left Talks Down to Black People

Summary

Podcast Summary: Adam Carolla Show — Janiyah Thomas on How the Left Talks Down to Black People
Episode Date: April 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Adam Carolla Show features political commentator Janiyah Thomas, former Black Media Manager for the Trump campaign. The central theme is a candid critique of how progressive politicians and institutions address issues of race, particularly how the political left speaks to and about Black Americans. The conversation spans personal consequences for Black conservatives, the patronizing attitudes of Democratic leaders, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) controversy, and broader claims about race, media narratives, and government dependency.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Personal Consequences of Black Conservatism

• Estrangement for Political Beliefs
  • Janiyah shares emotionally about losing relationships, including with family, due to her work with Trump and conservative politics.
  • Notable Quote (03:13, Janiyah):
    “I had a lot of hard conversations with family members. Some don't want to talk to me anymore. My aunt and I stopped speaking for months, and after her stroke…I got home too late. None of this is worth falling out with family members over.”
• Both Adam and Janiyah discuss the challenge of political diversity within families and the difficulty of separating personal identity from political choices.

2. The Left’s Rhetoric: “Talking Down” to Minorities

• Patronizing Narratives

  • Both speakers critique figures like Gavin Newsom and Joe Biden for claims that Black and Hispanic people lack basic resources or capabilities (e.g., IDs, bank accounts).
  • Notable Exchange (06:34, Adam):
    “It’s the most racist, insulting thing you can say. ‘You don’t have access to a checking account or an ID?’”
  • Janiyah calls such narratives “insulting,” questioning why the left assumes Black people are incapable or need saving from White politicians.
  • Notable Quote (07:11, Janiyah):
    “Why do you think we’re incapable of doing certain things and having certain things?”
  • Adam: “The most racist you can be is to think a group is not capable of something.”

• The “White Savior” Complex

  • Janiyah refers to the left’s messaging as having a “white savior syndrome,” aiming to create dependency and suggest Black Americans need rescuing.

3. SPLC and Manufactured Extremism

• Controversy Over “Hate Groups”
  • Adam and Janiyah criticize the SPLC for painting mainstream conservatives as extremists, referencing a PragerU video (17:06) that accused the SPLC of fundraising by exaggerating threats.
  • Discussion of recent news that SPLC is indicted for allegedly funneling money to extremist groups they claim to fight, thus manufacturing problems for fundraising and media attention.
  • Notable Quote (26:16, Adam):
    “It’s the perfect scam. They come up with some bullshit fact-checker, and then quote their own group to smear others.”

4. Emotional Politics and Identity Tactics

• The Divide by Gender Within Black Voters
  • Discussed how Democratic messaging targets emotions, particularly working on issues that appeal to Black women, while more Black men seem to be shifting right for pragmatic reasons (entrepreneurship, family, financial stability).
• Dependency and Victimhood
  • Janiyah asserts that government assistance, while helping temporarily, creates long-term stagnation and dependency in minority communities.

5. Critique of Biden, Newsom, and Harris

• Questioning Competency and Sincerity
  • Adam and Janiyah criticize President Biden’s and Vice President Harris’s records, rhetoric (e.g., “racial jungle,” Charlottesville), and their use of emotional appeals about hate and white supremacy.
  • Notable Quote (34:04, Adam):
    “If Oprah could make her way up during that period in this country, there is no excuse. No excuse at all.”
• Charlottesville as Political Symbolism
  • References to the continuous use of events like Charlottesville and “fine people on both sides” as manipulation, with speculation about SPLC’s role in inciting such incidents.

6. Media, “Fact-Checkers,” and Manufactured Truth

• Critique of Media Circularity
  • Both speakers deride the cycle of left-leaning groups being cited as evidence by left-leaning media, which then reinforces those groups’ authority.

7. Cultural and Educational Messaging

• Impact of Curriculum and Popular Narrative
  • Janiyah recounts growing up hearing only about Black suffering and oppression, observing this indoctrination creates a fixed mindset in young people that’s difficult to undo.
  • Notable Quote (38:41, Janiyah):
    “The more you keep telling children at that young age…your history starts with slavery...everything is reiterating this narrative that you’re inferior, you should be mad, you should be upset.”

8. Economic Mobility & Dependency

• Welfare and Rent Control as “Traps”
  • Both discuss examples of government assistance leading to stagnation—people staying in situations with little incentive to grow, buy homes, or become independent.
  • Adam uses personal and family anecdotes to illustrate the unintentional harms of rent control and welfare programs.

9. Race, Trades, and Regional Labor Divides

• Lack of Black Workers in LA Construction
  • Adam notes a demographic curiosity: construction and trades in LA are almost exclusively Hispanic, with few or no Black workers, which both speculate stems from cultural shifts, economic geography, and possible legacy attitudes about manual labor.

10. The Role of Government, Local vs. Federal Power

• Emphasis on Local Change
  • Janiyah underscores that significant government decisions affecting daily life (e.g., COVID shutdowns) often come from state and local officials, not just the president.
  • Adam reiterates that, contrary to common progressive rhetoric, executive-level dictates were not responsible for local shutdowns—it was Democratic state officials in places like California.

11. Media Accountability and Fact-Checking Hypocrisy

• Holding Elected Officials Accountable
  • The group discusses viral clips of Congresswoman Ilhan Omar being questioned about financial disclosures and inflammatory comments—her reluctance to answer is seen as emblematic of politicians avoiding transparency.

12. AI, Social Media, and Digital Authenticity

• Deepfake and AI Influencers
  • A brief segment discusses the rise of AI-generated influencers manipulating political and social discourse, questioning how future generations will discern authenticity online.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Family Estrangement:
  Janiyah (03:13): “None of this is worth falling out with family members over.”
• On Patronizing Narratives:
  Adam (06:34): “It’s the most racist, insulting thing you can say.” Janiyah (07:11): “Why do you think we’re incapable of doing certain things and having certain things?”
• On SPLC's Tactics:
  Adam (26:16): “It’s the perfect scam… they quote their own group to smear others.”
• On Black Community Shifts:
  Janiyah (10:50): “Men think with logic… women just happen to move more on emotions. Democrats harp on emotional issues.”
• On Emotional Politics:
  Adam (29:42): “This is the bullshit. Cause like, this is them running on emotions, they're running on inciting people emotionally, and then people are so sensitive to it that they get trapped into continuing to vote for people like this.”
• On Role Models Like Oprah:
  Adam (34:04): “If Oprah could make her way up during that period in this country, there is no excuse. No excuse at all.”
• On Curriculum and Victimhood:
  Janiah (38:41): “The more you tell kids their history starts with slavery… you’re the inferior, you should be mad, you should be upset.”
• On Media Echo Chambers:
  Adam (26:16): “The media makes these groups and they come up with some sort of bullshit thing and then they quote it.”
• On Political Grift Organizations:
  Alicia Krause (80:46): “They were literally paying people to infiltrate these organizations, stir up racism and racist events, while then going around and making tens of millions of dollars from radical leftists.”
• On Government Dependency:
  Janiah (59:40): “It keeps you stagnant.”
• On AI Manipulation:
  Alicia Krause (100:09): “So this beautiful blonde we're looking at is fake. Completely generated.”

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Memorable and Light Moments

• Adam’s Mustang II Rant (103:06+)
  • A humorous tangent about old cars, fake wood steering wheels, and how even simulated wood has improved.
• Ilhan Omar “Grilling” (90:20+)
  • Clips and recaps of Ilhan Omar being dogged by reporters about financial disclosures, with banter about politicians’ reluctance to answer questions.
• Recurring Theme — “I Don’t Get It”
  • Adam’s running line on not understanding the popularity of certain political narratives and figures, highlighting his candid, comedic style.

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Segment Timestamps

• [03:04] Family consequences of conservatism
• [05:44] Politicians’ patronizing attitudes toward minorities
• [08:45] Critique of Newsom and SPLC
• [12:26] Janiyah’s journey to the GOP
• [17:06] PragerU’s exposé on SPLC
• [25:03] Media and “fact-checkers” discussion
• [29:23] Biden, Charlottesville, and “white supremacy” narrative
• [34:04] Paradigms of success and narratives of limitation
• [38:41] Education and Black history narratives
• [43:53] Biden and the “airline knee room” comment
• [50:41] Race, trades, and the labor market
• [58:00] Welfare, rent control, and economic mobility
• [62:15] Local vs. federal government responsibility
• [80:46] SPLC indicted and media grift organizations
• [88:27] Ilhan Omar, accountability, and media-avoidant politicians
• [100:09] AI-generated social media influencers

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Final Thoughts

The episode, in Adam Carolla’s usual comedic but fiery style, critiques how the political left addresses and allegedly manipulates issues of race and victimhood, with exasperation at media complicity and the willingness of the public to accept emotional rather than practical appeals. Janiyah Thomas offers both personal and professional perspective, emphasizing themes of independence, pragmatism, and the necessity to move beyond narratives of helplessness or dependence.

For listeners:
This is a provocative, unfiltered discussion likely to resonate with anyone skeptical of mainstream narratives about race, victimhood, and political correctness. Both host and guest steer the conversation with humor, strong opinions, and pointed anecdotes. If you want to understand an insider’s critique of progressive race politics and the challenges faced by Black conservatives, this episode is essential listening.

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Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Well, in this episode, Janiah Thomas comes in. She was black media manager for Trump, so she's got a lot of insights about that world. Also, Leisha Krause has got the news and we'll do that right after this. Thanks for tuning into the Adam Carolla Show. You can watch the full show on YouTube. Just search Adam Carolla show and hit subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can also get the podcast wherever you like to listen. And for extra content, ad free episodes and more, you can head over to our substack and sign up today.

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[Adam Carolla]

From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, political commentator Chana Thomas. Plus the news with Alicia Crouse. And now, Adam Carolla. Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get on mandate get on. Toniah Thomas in studio worked as the black media manager for President Trump in town in perfect Timing because of the whole Southern Poverty Law center business. I guess we can get into that. Good to see you.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yes. Thanks for having me.

[Adam Carolla]

I guess I would have to ask this to all black conservatives or folks that are associated with Trump in any way, shape or form. How you doing with your family?

[Janiah Thomas]

That's a heavy question.

[Adam Carolla]

My family hates me and my politics as well. But it's not as bad probably, as you.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah, I mean, like, starting off, I had a lot of, like, hard conversations with family members. Some don't want to talk to me anymore. Then, like, I told this story before, but, like, my aunt and I stopped speaking for, like, a couple months.

[Adam Carolla]

And you were close previously?

[Janiah Thomas]

Very close. And she ended up having a stroke, like, right before the CNN debate. And then by the time I got home, like, my dad was like, well, don't rush home. Like, you're not going to change anything or whatever. So by the time I flew to Virginia, she had passed. And, like, you know, that's something I've been, like, dealing with the last two years. But I tell everybody, like, none of this, whether you're on the right, the left, like, none of this is worth falling out with family members over.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Janiah Thomas]

And, like, it's really hard to, like, you know, separate the politics from the person. But I'm like, what about me is a different person? Like, how am I a different friend today than I was pre that, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, also, people on, you know, it's that way. It's basically, if you feel the way we feel and you live in Hollywood, you've essentially fallen out with everybody because that's where we live. But what I want to say to those people is, can you. Could you imagine, you know, putting yourself in our shoes? Like, I know you hate Trump, or you love Gavin Newsom, or you love Kamala Harris, or you love Karen Bass or you love whomever. These are inept, sometimes corrupt, dumb, destructive politicians are not allowed to have opinions about Joe Biden.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

Joe Biden was mentally compromised, son, is a grifter, drug addict and did nothing but hurt this country and stoke racial division. Can I have some thoughts about your guy? Who is your guy exactly? Kamala Harris is horrible. I would not want her running a small supermarket that my parents owned. I would not. I would not. So what are we comparing our guy to?

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah, 100%. Like, the president's the polar opposite of that. Sometimes people might not like the way he says things, but it's very direct. And I think that's what helped him get elected is because I think People are tired of seeing the like, Clintons and like the Obamas and like, you know, the like establishment type candidate.

[Adam Carolla]

They're like circle talkers. Yeah, I don't even know what they want. They want everyone to stand up and fight for justice. They're not gonna rest until everybody has equal justice or something. Then they go back to Martha's Vineyard. And that's exactly their work, you know, and people love it.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly. And I'm like, this is a copy and paste over and over again, just different generations.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you know, I've said this a million times. I don't get why more people of color aren't insulted by these guys. Talking about not, you know, maybe it's, you can't have access to an id. I mean, I had Gavin Newsom in here telling me that black people and Hispanic people in California don't have access to checking accounts. You know, like bizarre, insane statements that you would never tolerate with your child. I have 19 year old twins. If they came up to me and I went, what's going on? I can't go to the airport. Why not? I don't have an id. I'd go, go get a fucking id. What are you doing?

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

Get a stupid id. And then they'd go, I can't pay my rent cause I don't have a checking. What do you mean you don't have a checking account? Go get a checking account. Do it this afternoon. Would I go, oh, I'm so sorry. You don't have access to a checking account or an id? I mean, it's the most racist, insulting thing you can say. And Joe Biden, that's all he did. Like, you know, the black entrepreneurs, they're just as smart as white entrepreneurs. They just don't have access to accountants and lawyers. It's like, what do you mean they can't get lawyers and accountants?

[Janiah Thomas]

I'm pretty sure the Jay Z's of the world have lawyers and accountants.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I think she probably has more than one.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly. So it is very insulting because it's like, why do you think that we're incapable of doing certain things and having certain things.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, here's what I would say. The most racist you can be is to think a group is not capable of doing something. That is the ultimate thinking they're something else. You know what I mean? Like, you go, black people, they're great dancers. That's not nearly as racist as thinking they can't get a checking account or any. I'll play you 30 seconds at Newsom. Just because It'll blow your mind. He sat where you're sitting and told me that they don't have access to it. Look down the road six months. Yes. Your husband lost his job. That's why you need to sock away some money. When he's gainfully employed. Yes. They foreclosed on your home. That's why you need to have a network, a community, friends, family members, money put away. Don't have the kids. Half of African Americans in the state of California, roughly half of Latino families, have no access to a checking account or an atm. Things we take for granted. They don't have a checking account. What's wrong with them? Well, because they don't have the resources to sock those things away. Why do we have them? A lot of different reasons, but roughly half those families don't. Why do Armenians have them? But where they end up is check cashing places. But I want to know why those groups. Why those two groups don't have access. A lot of just happens to be that we can talk. Okay. It just happens to be that way. That's his plan. All right. That's super racist.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yes. I think Gavin is a complete idiot.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, he's an idiot. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying to all my asshole friends in Hollywood. This is your guy. You're making fun of me.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah, no, I get it. I mean, he's just very like to sit there and separate two different communities and say that they're not capable of doing X, Y, and Z. It's also like the white savior syndrome of, like, they want you to feel like you need them for help.

[Adam Carolla]

Bigger question, why aren't more black people insulted by these people? They really should be insulted. I don't hear enough. I don't hear enough voices of them going, you don't speak for me. Shut up. I'm not a child. I can take care of myself.

[Janiah Thomas]

I think we're moving in the right direction. It's getting better than it was before, especially with the younger generation. I think it's better. But there's some people, the baby boomers that are still left, like, my grandmother's age. They're not gonna change their mind. They have been so mentally programmed to believe and think certain things, and they just don't hear it. I'm like, joe Biden has literally said stuff like, I don't want my kids growing up in a racial jungle. And I'm like, but that's okay. But you have a problem with Trump, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, also, here's what I think. Black Women are, I don't know, 90% Democrat or, or maybe more, I don't know, 91, probably something like that. Black men are sort of moving a little bit the other direction. It's interesting that the men are easier to move than the women. But also in terms of the black community, how many years of nothing coming out the other end before you start to realize, I don't think this is working. Like, you know, if you had the ne' er do well brother in law and you lent him five grand and he told he's gonna have that money for you at the end of the week. And 61 years has gone by and you've never seen. When he gets up there and says, next week I'm gonna give your money back, at what point do you stop believing him?

[Janiah Thomas]

I think a lot of, I think, well, especially when you're talking about men and women, like men think with logic and can separate their emotions from logic when women just happen to move more on emotions. And I would say the thing that the Democrat party does is very like they harp on emotional things, they harp on identity politics, they harp on the abortion issue. And I think those things like benefit in black most black women's minds. They think these things benefit them. And like, even like the welfare system, like you're more likely to get money, more money if you're not married and there's no man in the household.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Janiah Thomas]

Like that's like an all. It's a design basically to think that you need to be dependent on the system and dependent on these people.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Janiah Thomas]

Whereas men, I think the Democrat party has focused so much on like talking about crazy shit like transgenders and you know, whether your daughter is a cat or a child, like a woman, like weird stuff like that that like only maybe 10 to 5% of the country like can even relate to. It's irrelevant. So they kind of have isolated black men from the conversation. And I think that's why a lot of black men are more moving towards the president. Cuz it's as simple as like creating, you know, financial stability for your family, like starting businesses like ownership, owning homes and taking care of your family and being the provider. I think that's why more black men have started to come towards the Republican Party and Trump because they're not thinking about all the emotional crazy issues that Democrats talk about.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I agree. Guys are a little more pragmatic and a little less emotional and it's easier to get them to move off of something if it's not working because there's A pragmatism.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

So you, how did you get that job with Trump?

[Janiah Thomas]

So before that I was actually the media relations director on the convention in Milwaukee. So I'd been in Milwaukee for about three months and then I just started doing TV just for shits and giggles because nobody else wanted to do it. And I guess they liked that. And then they were like, a few days later, can you come to the campaign? And I'd already knew people on the campaign from just working in the party, in jail, and then. So, yeah, my first, like day five was going to the Bronx with the President.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah, right.

[Janiah Thomas]

That was crazy experience.

[Adam Carolla]

How did you come upon this in your own life? Because your family was not this way. Yeah, now my family was very progressive. Super progressive.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

As well. I just looked at them and went, whatever this is, it ain't working. Yeah, I'm going another direction. But I don't know what you did.

[Janiah Thomas]

I think for me, like, I grew up very different than most of my, like, cousins and like my even different than my mother did. Like, I grew up in a two parent household. My parents have been together since they were 19 and 21. And me and my dad are like the type to have like constructive conversations about stuff like this. And he was the Trump supporter before me. And then he was like, you know, you don't really need to care about what other people think. And I'm also an only child, so I never really have been that dependent on what other people think about anything. So I kind of just came to talking to my dad, having conversations. At the time I was like in a black political thought class in college. And this is like when Covid's going on. And I'm like, we have all these 20 different ideologies, but what we're still like an oppressed community. I'm like, this makes no sense to me. And then, you know, I just kind of like the Trump way of just being real and being authentic. Like, you may not like the way it comes out, but it's like he's very straightforward, very direct. And I just kind of had to separate my friends and family because when I was working for the party in general, or even when I worked for Senator Scott, that wasn't a problem.

[Adam Carolla]

Tim Scott.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah, it was really when I started working for Trump was when it became a problem. And I'm like, I've been working in the party for years before this. Like, why is it now this person, I even had a friend that like, Sunday, election day, we're talking friends, Wednesday, we can't be friends anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, Right. Yeah. They have a lot of rules. And the rules are you agree with them and their bizarre nonsense. That's destructive. Otherwise they cut you out.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

Which is a weird way to sort of maintain a relationship because whatever it is they believe in is, in my belief, destructive. So why shouldn't I be angry at you?

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

You have super destructive thoughts.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

The people you vote for ruin the city I grew up in.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

So shouldn't I be more angry at you than you are at me? I want Steve Hilton to be the governor. He's not an insane person. That's a race hustler, but okay. And I would assume his wife is semi normal too, compared to to Gavin Newsom's. So this thing that just. Breaking news, the whole Southern Poverty Law center stuff, this is something that I have been aware of. And if you're on the right, you would be aware of this organization and how they work. Now if you're George Clooney, you're cutting him a check for a million dollars because you don't know. Sometimes in an attempt to be kind, whether it's Covid or Southern Poverty Law center or Joe Biden's mental demise, I think a lot of people just don't know. It's not reported in the news. They don't know what's going on. So I happen to work with sometimes and friends with Dennis Prager. Prageru. And Prageru got designated a hate group. Why? The Southern Poverty Law center, who's now, it turns out, paying people to have racist protests. And there's gonna be more to come out. You guys have probably heard the story, but I thought I would just play you guys a 4 1/2 minute prageru on the Southern Poverty Law Center. And this is eight years ago. So everyone who says, you know, Prageru, you guys are nuts. You're conspiracy theorists, or Adam, you're nuts, with COVID or whatever, go back eight years, this is what Prageru had to say.

[Carl Zinsmeister]

Shutting down people you don't agree with is about as un American as you can get. Rigorous debate, honest discussion, open exchange of ideas. That's the American way. But free thinking and speech are threatened today by a group with a sweet sounding name that conceals a nefarious purpose. This group is called the Southern Poverty Law center, or SPLC. Originally founded as a civil rights law firm in 1971, the SPLC reinvented itself in the mid-80s as a political attack group. Every year now, it produces a new list of people and Charities it claims are extremists and haters. Aided by glowing coverage from the establishment media, the SPLC's hate list has become a weapon for taking individuals and groups they disagree with and tarring them with ugly associations. The SPLC employs a two pronged strategy. First, find a handful of crazies with barely any followers, no address and no staff, and blow them up into a dangerous movement. Proof that there are neo Nazis lurking everywhere on their notorious hate map. The SPLC lists 917 separate hate groups in the U.S. no one has even heard of more than a handful of them. The second strategy of the SPLC is to undermine legitimate political voices that they oppose by associating them with extremists like the kkk. Take the charity known as the Alliance Defending Freedom. The SPLC lists them as a hate group. Is that fair? Well, the ADF has a network of 3,000 attorneys from all across the US who've donated more than a million volunteer hours in defense of religious liberty. They've had a role in 49 victories at the U.S. supreme Court. Putting the Alliance Defending Freedom on a list with 130 Ku Klux Klan chapters is not only wrong, it's malicious. According to the SPLC, one of the most influential social scientists in the U.S. charles Murray is a white nationalist. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, perhaps the most eloquent spokesperson for the rights of Muslim women, is to the SPLC a toxic anti Muslim extremist. Scores of other individuals and charities active in mainstream conservative or religious causes have likewise been branded by the Southern Poverty Law center as threats to society. Mind you, it is entirely fair to disagree with any of those folks, but it is utterly unfair to call them haters or extremists. The largest category listed by the SPLC AS extremists, with 623 entries, covers groups like the Tea Party, organizations that are wary of centralized government. Last time we checked, favoring smaller government was a mainstream and perfectly honorable American traditional. What is not honorable is the course prescribed by a leader of the splc, Mark Potok, who was caught on video proclaiming the organization's true intentions. He told a group of supporters, the press will describe us as monitoring hate groups. I want to say plainly that our aim in life is to destroy these groups, to completely destroy them. Portraying someone with political views different from your own as a public menace is bullying, and it's a dangerous game. Instead of reducing hate and violence, the SPLC's name calling directly incites it. In March 2017, Charles Murray was trying to discuss his acclaimed book coming Apart at Middlebury College when he was violently attacked by protesters. Inflamed by the SPLC's labeling of him as a racist, a professor escorting Murray ended up in the hospital. In 2012, a gunman attempted mass murder at the Family Research Council and failed only because the first man he shot managed to disarm him. The attacker told the police he acted because the SPLC had listed the Family Research Council as a hate group. It's a vicious irony. While promoting itself as a monitor of hate groups, the SPLC has in practice become a fomentor of hate. Yet the group rolls on bigger than ever. What keeps them going? For one thing, the establishment media constantly quote them. Scare stories about right wing storm troopers are a sure way to attract eyeballs and fit nicely with the media's own preconceptions of the dangerous reactionaries lurking out there in middle America. Second, alarmism is a great fundraising technique. Convincing people there are fascists everywhere has turned the SPLC into a cash machine. Last year, the group hustled $50 million out of frightened liberal donors, adding to the $368 million of assets they were already sitting on. So the next time you see the Southern Poverty Law center quoted in the news, just remember the masterminds behind the SPLC aren't eliminating hate, they are fueling it. I'm Carl Zinsmeister for Prager University.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

There's your story. And by the way, the people that are listening to Southern Poverty Law center are the people that want to put together the disinformation and misinformation czar. They want to be in charge of what's true and what's not true. They want to be in charge of that. Really? Color me dubious.

[Janiah Thomas]

I mean, I think the thing that works for them is like, the media does this on their own.

[Adam Carolla]

The media makes these groups and they come up. It's like they come up with some sort of bullshit thing and then they quote it. It's a perfect scam. They go, oh, you support Prageru? Yeah, well, you know, Southern Poverty Law Center's got them on their list of.

[Janiah Thomas]

It's like they made a list that's actually insane. Cause I literally was just there the other day to visit Marissa. And they're the most peaceful, kind people,

[Adam Carolla]

100% just the truth.

[Janiah Thomas]

And the left is always trying to, like, put frame the right as like, being these violent extremists. And I'm like, you guys are the ones inciting the violence. Antifa's the one inciting the violence. It's not us. I was like, it's always been them.

[Adam Carolla]

It's crazy. I mean, I guess it's all projection, but it is. It's like what they do is they go, we had some organization becomes some political fact checker, and it's all bullshit and leftists. And then they check your facts and they go, well, turns out Joe Biden, Hunter Biden's laptop is a Russian hoax. We check with fact checkers. Fact checkers who do what? Agree with you all the time.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

And the Southern Property Law center said, this guy's a hate group or that group's a group. Yeah, it's the scam.

[Janiah Thomas]

It'd be different if they directed some of that attention to people on their side and it was fair. But it's obviously very clearly directed at conservative organizations.

[Adam Carolla]

I got this funny. I don't know why I mashed it up, but. So then Joe Biden runs on hate and discrimination and racial whatever. And Joe Biden, first off, people don't hate him enough because he's such a pompous narcissist. I mean, imagine you go, I was retired. I was just going to sit and enjoy my later days and go for long walks on the beach. But someone had to stop racism. So I stood up and I ran for president so I could end this scourge known as racism. But here's what we're dealing with, and I've been yelling about it for a million years. He then runs on it, says white supremacy is the biggest problem this country has, and then unleashes his DOJ and his Justice Department to go find it. And that's the problem. That's the scary part. They went and found it everywhere.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah, I mean, I think obviously, like, people I know people in our country have a tendency to forget things that people have done and said in the past. But like, if you look at Biden's history, to then flip flop to say, like, I'm trying to end racism. I'm like, you are part of the problem. Like you're the crime bill part of the problem. Like you've said about black people, part of the problem, or the you ain't black if you don't vote for me, like, just feeling like you're entitled to somebody's vote.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Janiah Thomas]

And it's like, I know we have a short attention span in this country, but I'm like, some of these things cannot be forgotten. And for all the hate to be directed at people on the right. And he has blatantly said things like, this is just not fair.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll play the Biden clip. Just because he's just everything. When you look back at Biden, you just realize what a hustler this idiot was. Oh, by the way, this is the guy, the people that won't talk to us. This is your hero, the corrupt hustler, the big guy.

[Carl Zinsmeister]

I made the decision to run for president after Charlottesville. Close your eyes and remember what you saw. Neo Nazis, white supremacists, and the KKK

[Adam Carolla]

coming out of the fields with torches, lighted veins Bulging, chanting the same anti Semitic bile heard across Europe in the 30s. It was hate on the march in the open in America. It's gonna stop it. Hate never goes away. It only hides. And when it's given oxygen, when it's given an opportunity to spread, when it's treated as normal and acceptable behavior, we've opened a door in this country that

[Carl Zinsmeister]

we must move quickly to close.

[Adam Carolla]

As president, that's just what I will do. I will send a clear, unequivocal message to the entire nation. There is no place for hate in America. Okay, nice job, old man.

[Janiah Thomas]

And see, this is the bullshit. Cause like, this is the whole them running on emotions, they're running on inciting people emotionally. And then people are so sensitive to it that they get trapped into continuing to vote for people like this.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Janiah Thomas]

And I'm like, if you looked at the facts and looked at who he really is and what he's done, which is a problem, I think, educational wise, voter wise in this country, because you don't do enough research on candidates in general. But I'm like, if you looked at the things he's done, the stuff he's talking about is a polar opposite of the things that he's already done, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Integrating black students would turn schools into a jungle, a racial jungle. This is from 1977. Listen, look, your dear departed aunt, if I could go to heaven and speak to her, I would say, at a certain point, he's just doing what he's doing. He's just gonna do what he's gonna do. He's a guy selling timeshares. He rips people off. That's what he does. At a certain point you're gonna have to figure what they're up to because they're not going to stop.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

This is what they do. They do all the bullshit, you know, they go to the black churches, they give the talk, and then they go right, right back to Martha's Vineyard. You never, never see another black person.

[Janiah Thomas]

And there's like a, there's a big black church and it's like Northern Virginia and Alexandria. But like every candidate has like gone through there, right? The Obama's, you know, Clintons, the Spam burger. That crazy lady in Virginia, like has to go through here. And I'm like, this is such performative bullshit. Who cares?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, here's the thing. There is nothing they can do for you. Black, white, whatever, male, female, lesbian. There's really nothing they can do for you. They can make good policy that makes it better for you and easier for you to get jobs and to save more in taxes and things of that nature. There's some policy stuff, but they're really can't do anything for the black community or the Hispanic community. They're gonna have to figure out a way to do it for themselves. Just like you can't really do anything for my family. But the real white privilege is never expecting them to do it and never being fooled into thinking they can do it. My white privilege is just knowing these guys are idiots and they're not gonna do anything and all have to do whatever I'm gonna do. It'll all be the man in the mirror. There's a Joe Biden. I mean, literally, Obama. When Obama got elected, there was this black woman that's like, she wanted her cell phone bill paid for or something by like Obama, like, literally thinks he's gonna take care of her cell phone bill. They're doing nothing for you now. But the good news is it's a free country and the best in the world, and you can get a lot done on your own.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly. But I think their version of doing stuff is making people dependent on the government and less independent. And I think is where on our side of the aisle, the right side of the aisle, we focus more on, like, independence and like, doing things for yourself. Like, I know when people hate when you say pick yourself up by your bootstraps, but our country founded on capitalism, like, get out there, get in the field, you know, play your part. You can't sit there and have like this victim mindset and you need a handout and people to help you. Like, that's not beneficial to any culture. Black, white, Hispanic, anyone.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, do we not have enough stories of success in this country, of Oprah type stories? You know, grew up poor, worked hard, so on and so forth. I mean, this country is littered with those stories. It's littered with success stories of women, men, black, Asian, Jewish, whatever, grew up poor, never met the dad, in and out of juvenile hall or something. And now look, most of those stories, most of the successful people have, it wasn't born rich and got something from daddy. Most of these stories are just stories. And by the way, they were able to achieve it in this country 50 years ago.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

Which is much different than it is now. So I'd say if Oprah could make her way up during that period in this country, there is no excuse, no excuse at all.

[Janiah Thomas]

Because according to them, it was harder back then. So. Yes, so there is no excuse.

[Adam Carolla]

It was technically hard, you know, if you were black if you were gay, it was harder back then, but that was back then. And I don't know why. They just want to live in that past all the time. You know what I mean? So it's like Jim Crow, blah, blah, blah, Jeff, Jesse. But no one alive is affected by that.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly. And I think when we get to move on is, like, starting to, like, not resonate with people as much because there's not many people alive that even experienced it. Like, even my grandmother's at, like, the tail end of it, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Janiah Thomas]

So it's like, stop. Why are we still talking about this? Why are we still living in the past? Like, we need to move on in things that are current to the future.

[Adam Carolla]

I. I don't know why, but I saw Kamala Harris was doing the same story when she was debating with Trump. I think, oh, boy. And then I'll play it, but then I got a mash up. Sorry.

[Alicia Krause]

Let's remember Charlottesville.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, man.

[Alicia Krause]

Charlottesville, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate. And what did the president then at the time say? There were fine people on each side.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know why. Now, Charlottesville's one of the cases where SPLC may have been giving people money to go down there, but then they use Charlottesville. I mean, all right, let me. I told Andrew to mash it up just because I thought it made me laugh. So go ahead, Andrew. I made the decision to run for president after Charlottesville. Close your eyes. Remember Charlottesville.

[Alicia Krause]

Remember what you saw, where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches,

[Adam Carolla]

spewing anti Semitic torches lighted.

[Alicia Krause]

And what did the president then at the time say?

[Adam Carolla]

Chanting the bile heard across Europe in the 30s. All right, this is their entire. This is all. If you want to know, here's the campaign, what they get done. This is it. Oh, and his son ripped off the Ukrainian energy company. There you go. And when you want four more years of that.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Jesus Christ.

[Janiah Thomas]

Terrible. And you know one thing that, like, especially people on the left. And I noticed he said this in this clip. That whole connotation of white supremacy, like, in the way they use it on the left. I'm like, if you actually, like, break down, like, the word, that means you're believing that somebody is supreme to you. And psychologically, that's fucked up to, like, keep saying and reiterating that to black people, you know? And I was like, I don't like that term because, one, I don't believe in it. I said, because if I believe in it. Then I believe that somebody else is superior to me. I was like, but the more that you keep telling young kids this, like you're screwing up their brain.

[Adam Carolla]

They're poisoning their brain.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

It's literally they're doing, basically, here's their plan, poison all the young black kids brains. Trying to convince them that they're growing up in a place that's systemically racist now. It's systemically. Which is. It's like radon. It's just gas. It's in the air. You know what I mean? So black kids, you guys be poisoned by this. Grow up angry. And by the way, who cares? Why even try? It's a racist society. So you guys are all poisoned. Young white kids, climate change. So you two, the black kids, the police hate you, that president hates you, and everyone in authority hates you. And good luck trying to get along white kids. We got about another 12 years before this whole place is underwater. And what are you, nine? All right, so you're not going to get to drinking age, but so is everyone miserable and angry now? Does everyone want to lash out now? Does everyone want to fight cops or destroy stuff at a museum? Everybody's angry. Everyone's agitated. Good. I'm going to Martha's Vineyard. That's their message.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yes, it is.

[Adam Carolla]

That's their message.

[Janiah Thomas]

It is. And you know, I can say this too.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, hold on. Hispanic kids. Ice, ice. Trying to get you. Round you up and put you in a gulag. Yeah, so everyone's angry now. Good. Oh, and then women and gays, they're all coming after you too. So anyway, I'm going to Martha's Vineyard. Okay.

[Janiah Thomas]

I will say, like, especially because, like, I grew up in South Carolina and like, I grew up in a, like, predominantly white neighborhood. And like, I have, like, I told my parents, like, as I've gotten older, like, the more you keep telling children at that young age, especially, like, black kids, that, like, your history starts with slavery. You don't talk about the good, the positive. Like, it's almost like everything they want you to know in the education system is like reiterating this narrative of, like, you're the inferior, you should be mad, you should be upset.

[Adam Carolla]

Right?

[Janiah Thomas]

And it's like you grow up your whole life thinking that. And then, like, you know, once you get at an adult age, you can at least for hope, I hope for most of us. Cause I know for me, I came to that conclusion that this is a bunch of bullshit. But I was like, I hate the way that they tell kids that at such a young age. And like, it's really hard to undo that. So, like, when I say, like, when black people continue to vote Democrat and keep continuing to vote for crazy people, it's cause they start like that programming at such a young age.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. And it's really. In a weird way, it is. Well, not in a weird way, it's child abuse. Like, I am old and I remember going through the first OPEC oil crisis in the 70s. I was very young, but I remember that. And I remember my hippie mom basically saying, we're gonna be out of gas in like five years or something. Like the world, you know. They tried all the climate change stuff back then too.

[Janiah Thomas]

Oh, wow.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it was called ecology. They essentially move terms around, but it's all the same nut jobs. Jane Fonda's been alive for a long time, so she was wrong about a bunch of shit in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s. She's generationally wrong. But my mom bought into that stuff. And I remember waiting in long lines at the gas station and stuff like that as a little kid. And I was into cars, man, and I was into engines and I wanted that stuff. And I dreamt of having a sports car and a race car and all that kind of stuff. And I remember being really bummed out, like, oh, man, no gas, man. I'm gonna get myself a Corvette and there'll be no gas. That sucks. And it made me depressed, you know. And my mom would talk about, you know, you're going to have to live underground because of the global warming and all this kind of. All this. Well, ice age was going to kick in and then it became global warming and the ozone was going to be shot and the sun rays were going to kill. We were going to fry everyone on planet. And I remember being nine, going, shit. Yeah, that doesn't sound very good. Yeah, I wanted a life of like clean water and Corvettes and abundant fuel. So it's really kind of abuse.

[Janiah Thomas]

Absolutely. It's so funny because I know people in California, like, they love to talk about stuff like that, right? Like growing up in the south, like, no one is thinking about that.

[Adam Carolla]

You're so lucky.

[Janiah Thomas]

That's not even a topic of conversation.

[Adam Carolla]

We in California, by the way, I'm going back 50 years, we were talking about this shit. None of it ever comes to fruition.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah, it's.

[Adam Carolla]

But my question is for white people, the same thing about black people. When are you gonna give it up? Like, when are you gonna realize this ain't happening?

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, There used to always talk about killer Africanized killer bees coming to California from Mexico or Texas. And first 10 times they brought it up, I was concerned. Yeah, I never. I don't listen to them anymore.

[Janiah Thomas]

I think it's a fear mongering tactic.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, but how long are you gonna listen?

[Janiah Thomas]

I think people are just getting to the point that they're fed up with the bullshit.

[Adam Carolla]

You think we're getting there?

[Janiah Thomas]

I think we're slowly getting there. But I think it's happening over time. I think because a lot of people, like, why do you keep wanting everybody to be scared or worried about something? That's not a tactic. I think that should work, especially with younger people. I think especially in our generation, people that are around my age, We've seen Covid 9, 11. We've seen a lot in our time. And it's like, at this point we're like, well, how much worse can it get, right? So I think that fear mongering tactic doesn't work on us. It's like, we've been here through all of these things.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, I got. There's one my favorite all time race hustling Joe Biden clip is one that I've never seen anywhere else. I only play. It's only been played on this show. It's him talking about transportation. And it just shows how reflexive he is to weave race into everything. Because he's not talking about a black church being shot up. He's talking about airlines and airlines gouging the public. Now, I'm a guy who flies every single weekend, just about, and every single week, I have a conversation with my assistant about how much, what's first class, how much extra coach plus, what do you get? A little knee room and a bag above your head. By the way, it's all an equation where you go, do they have business? Business is almost as much as first class. All right, well, what's the difference between coach and business? I have these conversations all the time because I fly all the time. And sometimes I go, hey, man, I want to be in first class. That's a long flight. I'll pay for it. And then sometimes I go, eh, it's Phoenix. I just flew to Southwest. We did Southwest Phoenix. Why not? It's an hour and a half. I don't care. This is a treasure of Joe Biden. And again, once again, things that black people should be upset about. Here we go.

[Carl Zinsmeister]

Some airlines, if you want six more inches between you and the seat in front, you pay more money, but you don't Know it until you purchase your ticket. Look, folks, these are junk fees. They're unfair. And the hidden marginalized Americans the hardest, especially low income folks and people of color.

[Adam Carolla]

People of color. Now try to break this down. Do you have any idea what this guy's saying?

[Janiah Thomas]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

And how would it hit people of color? He says marginalized folks and low income folks and then people of color. He's got three groups. I guess marginalized is gay, low income. I can do the math on that.

[Janiah Thomas]

I know a lot of wealthy gay people.

[Adam Carolla]

All the. First off, all things that cost money hit low income people the most. Gas in California being six bucks a gallon hits the low income people the most.

[Janiah Thomas]

It's affecting everybody.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, but it hits them the most because if you make $10 million a year, it's not a big deal if it goes up a buck fifty. But also it hits black people harder. Do you have any idea? Let's just say we'll watch it one more time. You defend Joe Biden.

[Janiah Thomas]

Defend, defense.

[Adam Carolla]

Explain to me what he is, what he is saying.

[Janiah Thomas]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Carl Zinsmeister]

Some airlines, if you want six more inches between you and the seat in front, you pay more money.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, hold on a second.

[Carl Zinsmeister]

You don't.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, that's all airlines. All airlines. All. Not some. All of them. But you don't know it until you get to the airport. I don't.

[Janiah Thomas]

I believe you have the option to choose.

[Adam Carolla]

You have an option. Well, not if you're black or marginalized.

[Janiah Thomas]

I'm pretty sure the Internet works the

[Adam Carolla]

same for everybody who's marginalized in 2024. Whenever this is. All right, one more time. It makes me laugh. It doesn't make the rounds. It's him and his most insane. And then what he does because he's such a race hustler, he has to toss a little race hustle on the very end, even though he's talking about airlines.

[Carl Zinsmeister]

Some airlines, if you want six more inches between you and the seat in front, you pay more money, but you don't know it until you purchase your ticket. Look, folks, these are junk fees. They're unfair. And they hit marginalized Americans the hardest, especially low income folks and people of color.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, what do you think?

[Janiah Thomas]

It's really hard to defend that because why? How do all three of these groups get to be looped together? I think what affects one affects all. And that means people with more income. I think it's for every. It affects everyone.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, first off, what is he even saying?

[Janiah Thomas]

I mean, I think he's bullshitting because this makes no sense in the first place. The whole, like, you don't know what the ticket price costs before, like, you have the option to choose your seat when you buy a ticket.

[Adam Carolla]

How does the computer know your race?

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly. It does. It.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't think people understand. The man is an insane race hustler, and nobody knew it. But anyway, everyone who doesn't like me in Hollywood, that's your guy. That's your guy. And I should have no opinions about that. Oh, my goodness, that is fascinating. You got a lot of opinions about my guy, but I can't have any opinions about this insane person. And by the way, Joe Biden just talked about nothing for four years. This is a perfect example of what he's talking about. This is zero. And much like Gavin Newsom with the check cashing and the access to a checking account. Okay, Joe, what's the plan? What's your plan? This is old. What have you done exactly? Last time I checked, airlines were still charging extra for knee room.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly. And I think it's always been that way.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it's always been that way. Well, all first classes is even more nero.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, that's all your. Basically, you're just paying for a little more room, essentially.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah. And I think everybody with common sense knows that. And this message is not relatable to anyone because it doesn't make any sense.

[Adam Carolla]

I. I don't. I don't get it. But again, I get what he's doing, but I don't know why. It's attractive to people. But I. I'm with you. I think it's on the way out.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Janiah Thomas]

I mean, I think they're just doing the same thing they've done for years. Like, I mean, I think this has been going on since Johnson, and I think they're just playing the race card over and over and over again. And now it's, like, kind of transitioned from, like, less on black people. Now it's the Hispanic community.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, they'll. Yes, they'll toggle. They'll do black, they'll do race for a long time, and then they'll slide over to gay. And the trans community, they'll do that for a while, and then they'll get bored with that and they'll go on to income and wealth inequality. So they'll focus on billionaires. So they kind of slide around a little.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And right now, yeah, black is taking a back seat to Hispanic. So they're fighting hard for the Hispanics.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly. And, like, I think, you know, I hear a lot of people, like, on the Internet, on TikTok, like, people that are, like, illegal, saying, you know, you guys are next. Like, to black people, they do not realize the racism in that. In your own, like, of saying, we're next. I said, how can we be next? When we were first, I said, we've been here. I said, were you gonna send us back to Mississippi, to Chicago? Where are we going?

[Adam Carolla]

Trump, with all his plans of putting trans people and gay people in cages and stuff, he's been on the job for five years now. The clock's ticking. He's gotta get to this. We can wrap up this war and start putting trans people in cages and rounding up blacks and Hispanics. Cause that's what he ran on. I love when they go. That's what he ran.

[Janiah Thomas]

He said locking up and sending illegal people back. You can go by choice or you can go by force. Either way, you're going back to where you came from.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know why that's such an exotic and offensive thought.

[Janiah Thomas]

And it's even more offensive to the people that came here legally and had to go through all the paperwork and the process to do it. So I feel like, you know, especially my friends on the Hispanic community in that community that have done it legally, they're like, this is not fair because we had to do all this. And then now you want to just hand over all these things to people that don't deserve it because they came

[Adam Carolla]

here illegally on a racial equality front. In the progress report I experienced this morning. Well, here's a good question for you. So I live amongst the ruins in Malibu, and there are crews all over the place, all crews. And every crew is Hispanic. They're 100% Hispanic. Now, this is an interesting subject for you. And I'll circle back to what I was gonna say, but I'll circle back to this, but I was on the job site. I go there a couple days a week, check the progress. Foreman happened to be there, and it's basically a white guy. And he's in charge of 25 Hispanic people who are working, and they're doing all the work. And I was talking to them today, by the way, they're getting ready to pour the slab. There's going to be 3,000 yards of concrete in this foundation. I'm not going to bore you, but the slab's going to be 300 yards, and that's coming soon. And it's totally insane what the Coastal Commission is forcing them to build, to put a single family residence on PCH in Malibu. And I'll give you guys more on that. But I was standing there with a guy, and it's 100% Hispanic. 100%. And I see one guy pop up and he's got blonde hair, and he's a tall white dude with blonde hair. And I've never seen it on this job site or just about any working with all the Hispanics. And I say to the foreman, I go, who's that guy? Is that the boss's son? And he goes, that's my nephew, I said. That would explain the blond guy on the job site, by the way. Good for him. Man learning a skill. 17 years old, likes to work, making a good hourly rate. Nothing wrong with that. College isn't for everybody. But here's a question for you. Because of where you grew up and where I grew up, when I travel the country, I see black crew members. Trades guys, construction, masonry, road crews. I see black everything. Louisiana. Doesn't exist. It's all Hispanic. 100% Hispanic. You could call a thousand gardeners and 1,000 plumbers and a thousand electricians. And you drive through Malibu, go through the Palisades. 25 houses being framed simultaneously. Not one black person on that job site holding the tool. I don't know what's different about Los Angeles. And I keep telling everyone all the time, go down to the inner city. Go find these troubled teens and give them a skill. I said to the guy, what's everyone getting paid? He said, the lowest anyone's Getting paid is 22 bucks an hour. That's unskilled. Pushing a shovel around, the guys with some skill. 35, 40 bucks an hour. I said, it's. Why not? What are we doing?

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And never got a clean answer. Never got a clear answer. What do you think?

[Janiah Thomas]

That's tough, because I feel like in South Carolina, where I grew up, there's a lot of development. Like, it's a newer area. And, like, I do see Hispanic people doing that. But I also say that, like, when you're, you know, black people, obviously, like, none of us are focused on trade skills. Like, everyone, like, kind of pushes the whole, you have to go to school, go to college, and, like. Which I also think is not for everybody. And sometimes it's a setup and a trap.

[Adam Carolla]

Right?

[Janiah Thomas]

But I think that, like, we don't see as many because California is just so different. Like. And honestly, there's probably not as many black people in California as there is on the east coast anyway. And so I feel like that's why over here you see more of that. But, like, in our. In, like, if you're in Chicago, if you're in New York or something like that, then you do see probably more black people doing trade work.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, yeah, but it's not like. So if you go, well, in a place that's 20% black, you would see more black tradespeople. So you go, okay, you see 20% black, and you might see 5% in the trades or something like that. Here it's like 6 or 8% black or something. And you got zero in the trades, so there's no representation. So there's something off. Like, something's weird.

[Janiah Thomas]

A lot of us have kind of gone past that. And I think that for some black people, people, they don't want to do that.

[Adam Carolla]

Not going back to the fields.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly. Like, they don't want to do that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. I get it.

[Janiah Thomas]

I think that, like, you know, we're more so focused on office jobs and, like, we're like, elevating as a community.

[Adam Carolla]

I get it. But it still doesn't explain the rest of the country, where you go to Atlanta and you'd see it a lot. And here, 100% Hispanic and white.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Zero Asian.

[Janiah Thomas]

Well, I also think the cost of living out here is crazy. So I think that's probably kind of pushed a lot of people.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. But a lot of the black people are just, you know, working at the airport.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Like. Like, oh, yeah, LAX is tsa. Lots of black faces.

[Janiah Thomas]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

So there's some jobs that they just graduate, gravitate toward. But.

[Janiah Thomas]

But I think it has a lot to do with that feeling. Doing the construction work. Probably. Like for some people, it resonates with, like, going back to a different time.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Labor in the sun.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yes. Not wanting to do that.

[Adam Carolla]

One big white guy standing over them, watching.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah. And also the welfare system has screwed us over time and time again. And I feel like for some of us, we're complacent with being dependent on the system and not wanting to do the hard work anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you have no idea how destructive that can be. And I'll give you the white guy version of the welfare system. Of the welfare system does the same thing. My mom was on welfare and I said to her, why don't you get a job? And she said, I'll lose my welfare.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

So, okay, so no job for Chris Carolla and no cool car for me. So I get it. But I had a friend who was in the trades and he was an electrician and he was a union electrician, and he did okay for himself financially. But somehow he got an apartment on Ocean Boulevard in Santa Monica and he got rent control and he got this little one bedroom apartment, but it's right on Ocean Prime Real estate. And he's paying way under current value for this place. Right. He's paying for the sake argument. If that thing was on the open market, it could get three grand a month. And he's paying 700 bucks a month. He never bought a house because he wasn't motivated. Because he would have had to the House he could afford would be in North Hollywood, over the hill. No more living in front of the ocean. No more getting something at a quarter of the price anyone else is going to pay for it. And he stayed put. And he never saved up and he never bought a house because he wasn't incentivized.

[Janiah Thomas]

It keeps you stagnant.

[Adam Carolla]

It kept him stagnant. So he's never been an owner because the government intervened.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

Forced low cost housing and rent control and made it unrealistic for people to move away from that once they got in. There's stories like that littered all over the place.

[Janiah Thomas]

New York City. And it keeps you stagnant mentally. So you don't want to. Like it's not motivating you to do more.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, I don't know, is it the government's job to tell people who own homes what they can charge for their unit? I mean, don't you think that'll sort its way out? Yeah, I've said it a million times. You know, they want a living wage or minimum wage or whatever it is. Literally down the street from here is a Home Depot. There's a bunch of day laborers who are waiting outside in the parking lot. The government doesn't need to get involved with how much those guys get an hour. That's them and you. And they're not doing it for 10 bucks an hour and you're not doing it for 40 bucks an hour. So you guys can figure it out. Why does the government need to decide what that price is? That guy, you go, the government goes, well, why? Because you want to pay that guy five bucks an hour? It's like, yeah, I do. But he ain't doing it. He's not getting in my truck for that money. We are figuring it out.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's going to be a number that's about right. You know what I mean?

[Janiah Thomas]

It's gonna stay between the employer and the employee. Like, it doesn't need to be a government intervention type of thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, first off, no one needs to work at McDonald's. You know, they work there for slave wages. Like, who works at McDonald's? Who doesn't want to work at McDonald's? Don't work at McDonald's. Yeah, if you don't want to work at McDonald's, you don't have to. If McDonald's was forcing you to work at McDonald's, then I would have an issue.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah, that's not the reality at all.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't, I don't get the people that keep cheering on the Bigger government, too. Like, you want more.

[Janiah Thomas]

That's the worst thing that can happen to us. To be honest, in my opinion, I think the government plays a role in controlling certain things. But when it comes to, like, I feel like people forget that there is state government, there is local government, and real change happens at the state and local level, and it's not coming from the executive branch all the time. You know, like, he has a job to lead in a certain way. But at the end of the day, a lot of these problems are focused on, like, local issues. You're like city council members, the mayors in these cities, the governors in these cities. But, like, you don't. Most average people that are voting aren't paying attention to those things.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Janiah Thomas]

They just direct their problem at who the news tells them to direct their problem at. It's not Gavin Newsom. It's Donald Trump's fault, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I told people all through Covid where, like, trump's a dictator. I was like, trump didn't shut the beaches. No, that was Newsom that shut the beaches. Trump's a dictator. Trump didn't shut your kid's school down either. That's Gavin Newsom. Your guys, you know, obviously, like, I

[Janiah Thomas]

grew up in the south, so we had Republican governors by like the week two or three of COVID We're open, businesses are open. You may have to wear a mask, but businesses are open. That's a choice.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Janiah Thomas]

You know, Georgia did the same thing. And I'm like, that's not an executive level issue. That is up to the state to decide that.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, Right. So it's the weirdest thing ever to live in a state that's completely shut down. I have friends whose small restaurant was destroyed by the government shut down. They're out of business. Family owned for 50 years, out of business. That's all your guys that are doing that. We had Garcetti or Karen Bass. We had Garcetti, progressive mayor and a progressive governor shutting down your businesses and trying to force vax mandates and doing all the things a tyrannical dictator would do.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, the two you take the Supreme Court who wanted to force a vax mandate, who wanted. It was the left of the Supreme Court. It was Sotomayor, who's a dope, who is lying. But it's the progressive side of the Supreme Court is the one that wanted to force you to take an experimental vaccination. So who is really the dictator exactly here?

[Janiah Thomas]

And even on that front, like during that time, they were forcing government employees and Sometimes a lot of those people that work in government buildings that are careers are minority communities, minority people. In D.C. a lot of people were willing to quit their jobs because or, like, it's either quit or take the shot. And I'm like, but these are the people you pretend to care so much about. These are the people you pretend to advocate so much for.

[Adam Carolla]

Right?

[Janiah Thomas]

It's so contradictory.

[Adam Carolla]

I completely agree. I don't know. Find Sotomayor, given her speech, by the way. Someone should play this to her and go, hey, whatever it is we're talking about now, remember when you're wrong about this other thing and we didn't listen to you and. And we're all better for it now. So whatever it is you're talking about this time, let's review the tape of the last time you were talking about something weird to be wrong that much and have, like, a horrible, horrible batting average and also making up stuff. Kids sick on ventilators and stuff like that. She wanted everybody in this nation to get this experimental vaccine. Oh. She wanted the government to mandate that.

[Janiah Thomas]

And we are much better off without doing it where we had freedom to not do it.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, look, if you wanted to do it, you could do it. If you did it for your kids, you were an idiot. But, okay, that's your decision to make.

[Janiah Thomas]

And even, like, athletes that they forced to do it, like college athletes, are they forced to do it?

[Adam Carolla]

You know, I love when they wouldn't let the tennis player in to play, like, the US Open because he was. In fact. Do they realize how stupid they sound, though? I mean, they are insane. And then everyone's making fun of Aaron Rodgers because he didn't want to do it. And Aaron Rodgers is the last person in the world that needed to be vaccinated. Everybody, he is the last guy who needed to be vaccinated. And you guys tried to shame him, didn't you? And every athlete. Athletes had no business being vaccinated. All right, if we can find that, I'll watch it. If we can't, I'll bring it on home. But it's insane when you go back and look at some of this and thank God people are putting together compilations of these people, because that's the funnest watch ever.

[Janiah Thomas]

Especially, like, with the Internet now. Like, you can bring back stuff easier than in old times.

[Adam Carolla]

It's weird that they just soldier on, though, you know, like, you can have Obama going, there's no place for gerrymandering in this society. It's an evil that creeps up upon us and destroys. Destroys the nations. Then five minutes later, it's like, that's a good thing.

[Janiah Thomas]

I want to know who their idiot advisors are that encourage them to do stuff like this.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. I don't know why people don't go, hey, boss, there's a whole bunch of tape. Are you saying the opposite of this thing? You know what I mean?

[Janiah Thomas]

I guess they're just hoping people don't remember.

[Adam Carolla]

Jake Tapper wants an award for discovering that Biden was not all there mentally, but there's hours of tape of him yelling at people who said he's lost his fastball. And he's yelling. He's got a stutter like Jake Taffer. You don't know all this tape exists.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

It's such a weird way to go through life. I guess they weirdly. They're sort of like. It's like, ring doorbell. Like, there's a ring doorbell on every house, right? All right, I'm gonna go up and steal that package. Like, oh, all right. They're gonna film you stealing that package.

[Janiah Thomas]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't care. I don't care. The nanny cam. The dog doesn't really care that there's a nanny cam, and the dog's just gonna lick his balls in the living room. And he doesn't really care who's watching, because he doesn't care. All right, well, if we can't find soda, which we found before, but. Oh, maybe. Maybe. There's lots of stuff. We're sifting through it. Oh, this is. This is the famous one about kids. We got that. We got that. We get it right now. Oh, that's all I wanted. Oh. All right. We have over 100,000 children, which we've

[Janiah Thomas]

never had before in. In serious condition, and many on ventilators.

[Adam Carolla]

No healthy kid died. Covid. All right. And funny, Brett Baer is talking to Michelle Walensky, who's also lied all the way through Covid as well, remember? Oh, God. What are we doing here? Jania, See, where should I send people to come look you up? Instagram and X. Instagram and X. Yeah.

[Janiah Thomas]

Jania R. Thomas.

[Adam Carolla]

Spell it out just so they got it.

[Janiah Thomas]

A N, I, Y, a H, R T, H, O, M A, S. Well,

[Adam Carolla]

it was nice meeting you.

[Janiah Thomas]

Thanks. You too.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Janiah Thomas]

Adam Corolla Sarah Khan from Oregon, not downtown Portland, which sucks anyway. I say Corella for Mayor California. The love that you have for that

[Adam Carolla]

state and you haven't left yet.

[Janiah Thomas]

That's true passion.

[Adam Carolla]

You can fix it.

[Janiah Thomas]

You can do it and I love you and loving every podcast from you and keep it up, keep going on. Bye brother.

[Adam Carolla]

Love you. You can leave us a message at 888-634. Wow. Love you.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah I think it was said a

[Adam Carolla]

few times the Mayor of California I like that.

[Alicia Krause]

We'll just create, like, a new dictatorial role for you.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's like they have the Johnny Grant who can't be alive anymore. You remember that name?

[Janiah Thomas]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

Johnny Grant was the mayor of Hollywood, but I don't really think he was the mayor.

[Alicia Krause]

That's what he called it.

[Adam Carolla]

Hollywood. He was like. It was like an unofficial title, you know, that's what.

[Alicia Krause]

Will Rogers did that, too, before there was a mayor of Beverly Hills. Will Rogers, one of my favorite Okies, would tell people he was the mayor of Beverly Hills. Believe him, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Yep. Johnny Grant always presided over the Hollywood Walk of Fame events.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh, that's cool.

[Adam Carolla]

He was always. He was always there. Made it to, I don't know, 85 years old. Not too shabby.

[Alicia Krause]

I feel like I should know that name, though, since I'm like, a radio junkie.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Johnny Grant. I don't know. What? I don't know. All his background. 84. Is when he died at age 84. He was an American radio personality and television producer who also served as a honorary mayor of Hollywood. And again, it's an honorary mayor. Yeah. He wasn't the mayor. I remember when he died. I remember when he died. Jimmy's Uncle Frank, who was kind of crazy, wanted Jimmy to be the mayor of Hollywood, but Jimmy didn't want to be the mayor of Hollywood. And then Frank kept trying to convince everybody to tell Jimmy to be the mayor of Hollywood, except for Jimmy didn't want to be the mayor of Hollywood.

[Alicia Krause]

And it's still. It's a part of the city of Los Angeles. So, unfortunately, Karen Bass is their mayor.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, their mayor is Karen Bass now. Johnny Grant. I just found out where my star in the Walk of Fame is gonna be.

[Alicia Krause]

That's exciting.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's basically Hollywood and Highland. It's right in the thick of things there.

[Alicia Krause]

That's a great spot.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's a joke that you may possibly not get. Alicia Krause.

[Alicia Krause]

Is it because you think I'm dumb or because I'm too young?

[Adam Carolla]

No, it's just. I don't know. You know, it's like, you know, certain car stuff, I don't expect ladies to get. Let's say, for instance, now. So Jimmy sent me a text over the weekend, and he says, we got your place to your star. And then Jimmy is going to tape his show at a different time so he can be at the thing.

[Alicia Krause]

That's nice of him.

[Adam Carolla]

That's nice. And then he said, would it be okay if I said some words? And I said, I wrote him back. I said, yeah, I'll put you on after Rogan and before Stanhope, which is funny if you're a man show follower. And Jimmy got a laugh out of it. Universal Studios also has an honorary mayor. Past mayors include Ernest Borgnine, Tippi Hedren, and Scott Baio.

[Alicia Krause]

The only name I knew was Scott Baio.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Alicia Krause]

Should I know those other names?

[Adam Carolla]

I think. Well, none of those other names have ever been in Zapped, which was a great movie from Scott Baios day. Ernest Borgnine was a huge actor. Okay, like what?

[Alicia Krause]

I know his face.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, God. You would know Ernest Borgnine's face.

[Alicia Krause]

This is when I need to bring my phone in here so I can Google these kinds of things.

[Adam Carolla]

Poseidon Adventure.

[Alicia Krause]

These, like, cultural.

[Adam Carolla]

The Wild Bunch. Poseidon Adventure is probably, like biggest, I don't know, Wild Bunch. But then, oh, yeah, you know Ernest Borgnine's face.

[Alicia Krause]

I mean, he deserved to be the honorary mayor of Hollywood.

[Adam Carolla]

I know in so many movies, Tippi Hedren was Birds. Was she? Yes. Yeah. So she is Alfred Hitchcock. I don't know, probably a couple Alfred Hitchcock's, but certainly Birds.

[Alicia Krause]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

And a beautiful blonde.

[Alicia Krause]

So Hollywood Charlotte, but like the old, old Hollywood, like Gloria Swanson vibes.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right. So Leesha came out and watched us do Stand up in Phoenix.

[Alicia Krause]

It was a lot of fun. Brought some friends, brought my husband. Yeah, I feel like a comedy show. Previously we'd talked about how mini golf is a really great first date option. I feel like a comedy show is a good within first three dates. You should do it because you have to be able to laugh with your partner. And it's okay if you don't laugh at the same things, but it's also an intro into what they think is funny.

[Adam Carolla]

Got it. Yeah, I agree. I usually I can see the audience, but I didn't spot you guys. So you must have been further back.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, we weren't like. We were like the second. So there was the first row of tables. We were at the second row of tables. Like the high boys.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it would have made me nervous if I knew you were there.

[Alicia Krause]

Really? That's funny.

[Adam Carolla]

But I do sometimes when someone says, I'm coming to the show, you do think about that person being in the audience.

[Alicia Krause]

I get that. I'm more anxious. I think when I give a speech and my mom's in the audience, I'm like, am I gonna say something a little edgy that makes the gen zers laugh? But my mom's going to be back there.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, I'll Tell you, the greatest gift my parents ever gave me was never listening to anything I've ever done. So I was always free to say whatever I wanted all the time.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, I think you kind of have to put yourself in the mindset of like, so when you go on cable news or I go on cable news, like, I feel like without fail there will be executive producer or an anchor that off airs, like, oh, you know, we heard the President was watching earlier, or something like that. And I'm like, I mean no disrespect to the President, but a part of me has to go to. I don't care that the President is watching.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right.

[Alicia Krause]

Because I don't want to just be like, catering to what I think the President wants to hear. I want to be true to, like, what I want to say and think needs to be said.

[Adam Carolla]

Like Fetterman.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, I love that guy. Sure. That's a compliment.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, let's go into the news here.

[Alicia Krause]

You heard about this one, I'm sure, but bring it to the audience right now. The DOJ has said that the Southern Poverty Law center funneled over three, three million dollars to white supremacists and extremist groups like the kkk and you know those Unite, the right guys that showed up in Charlottesville that Biden loves to talk about. Yeah, those guys. A grand jury in the middle. I'm sorry, a grand jury in the middle district of Alabama returned an 11 count indictment charge against the SPLC with six counts of wire fraud, a lot of different bank accounts, and they allege that between 2014 and 2023, so even under the Obama administration, they were funneling money, secretly funneling money to at least eight individuals associated with these violent extremist groups. And the Southern Poverty Law Center. I mean, if you're not familiar with what they do, they are often recorded by the New York Times, Mississippi, now cnn. They're incited, cited and interviewed.

[Adam Carolla]

And they're one of these bullshit groups, okay? So this scheme that they run, this scam that they run, is not that much different than the hospice or the daycare center.

[Alicia Krause]

1000%.

[Adam Carolla]

First they give a euphemistic title. Southern Poverty Law center, they give a thing. So the place that's running the grift, it's a hospice, is called Caring Angels or whatever it is. And then the one that's running the youth bullshit is always first steps forward. So you start with a super nice, fluffy, euphemistic title. It's also the same scam. And I'm trying To think you can look it up. They just got sued. And Shapiro Daily Wire sued them. These companies that monitor content and then tell potential advertisers. Yeah, they tell potential they're bullshit scams. So then they go to Procter and Gamble and they go, here's our hate list of people you shouldn't advertise with. You essentially are making a bullshit list, getting paid and hurting people. And the media loves you, and so does George Clooney.

[Alicia Krause]

And now we know that they were doing that. So some of the people that were on the Southern Poverty Law Center's racist list of places that should be targeted by them, you know, racists that they were fighting were a lot of former employers of mine, actually. David Horowitz, Freedom Center Prageru, Turning Point, usa.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Alicia Krause]

Apparently, Charlie Kirk was a racist, Ben Shapiro is a racist. But what they were doing, and the grift here, was that they were literally paying people to infiltrate these organizations, stir things, stir up racism and racist events, while then going around and making tens of millions of dollars from radical leftists that think that these organizations are vibrant and need to be stopped.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? I mean, they essentially just did what Black Lives Matter does. You give a good title, get a whole shitload of money and don't fix anything. And then you have to kind of create the problem. Look, the guy who has the job picking up litter in the park, once there's no more litter, he's gonna take a trash can and turn it upside down and make some litter, because that's what he's doing.

[Alicia Krause]

If it's a park in la, unfortunately,

[Adam Carolla]

he'll run out of litter. That's a good point.

[Alicia Krause]

But here's Cash Patel, FBI Director, and Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche talking about this sweeping investigation.

[Janiah Thomas]

We're here today is to announce what the general just told you. The Southern Poverty Law center, in a massive sweeping indictment, has been charged with allegations of fraud and using the banking system to perpetrate that fraud. I just want to talk about a couple brief things here. The Southern Poverty Law center themselves advertise to raise money to dismantle violent extremist groups for a period of at least a decade. They use their donor network to raise money to purportedly dismantle violent extremist groups.

[Adam Carolla]

However, the splc, the Southern Poverty Law

[Janiah Thomas]

center, used the money they raised from their donor network to actually pay the leadership of these very groups.

[Adam Carolla]

I just want to say that again,

[Janiah Thomas]

they used the fraudulently raised money by lying to their donor network, thousands of Americans, to go ahead and actually pay the leadership of these supposed violent extremist groups.

[Adam Carolla]

All right? By the way, if you're George Clooney and you gave him a million bucks,

[Alicia Krause]

I'd want it back.

[Adam Carolla]

I'd want it back.

[Alicia Krause]

But you're George Soros. You should demand it back.

[Adam Carolla]

If you're Nike and you gave Black Lives Matter a million bucks, wouldn't you want some of that back? I mean, okay, first off, you guys are idiots for giving these people money. But secondly, this is. I mean, Obama started this, but it's all Biden talked about and he created. Listen, you create something that doesn't really fully exist in white supremacy. And the Klan. And Biden said 10,000 times white supremacy was the most dangerous thing in this country.

[Alicia Krause]

That's why he decided to run.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, Right. So you say that. Then you have to take your FBI director and tell him to go find it, and then he can't find enough of it at all. So we have to manufacture it. And that's when it starts getting dangerous.

[Alicia Krause]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

So you have to take the old lady who was 20ft in front of the abortion center protesting or saying a prayer, and then go arrest her, because you need to pad the numbers of your white supremacy list because you don't have enough. And your Southern. If you're Jessie Smollett, you gotta create it. And there's a noose hanging in the NASCAR garage, and the list just goes on and on and on. I don't know. I feel like the last 10 major racist stories have all been hoaxes. Hands up, don't shoot.

[Alicia Krause]

And. Or apparently allegedly funded by the splc.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So good people on both sides. Jesus Christ. And then there's January 6th, which is

[Alicia Krause]

essentially, I kind of wanted to know because obviously there's been conspiracies left, right, and center about January 6th. My first thought when that happened was, were there any paid employees of the SPLC that showed up at the Capitol that day and scaled some walls?

[Adam Carolla]

AOC was this close to being raped and murdered, even though she wasn't in the building.

[Alicia Krause]

They also, interestingly enough, as we pointed out, this started in 2014. But they think that they've been doing this stuff for years, like maybe potentially decades since their founding back in the 70s. And so it happened under the Obama administration. The DOJ under Biden actually opened up an investigation into this, and it was very quickly closed.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Wonder why. But by the way, I love all the lawfare stuff. Like, they opened up. It was closed, by the way. Daily Wire, alongside other plaintiffs, sued U.S. department, State Department for allegedly funding and promoting censorship technology such as NewsGuard and the Global Disinformation Index. So your hero Joe Biden and his administration were trying to get people silenced and shut down and put out of business and facts.

[Alicia Krause]

The first Amendment only matters to the left if it's what their people are saying that they want them to say all the time.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. I'm just gotta stick to their toes. All I wanna say to all my friends on the left, can we give ourselves. How about a nice 10 minute break on all your righteous indignation about everything all the time? How about you just take a break? How about you realize Joe Biden is the big guy and he was a corrupt and a piece of shit. All the things you love so near and dear. The New York Times, the LA Times, Southern Poverty Law center just. They're all corrupted. They're all a mess. And I don't know. Just give it a break. Take a day off of preaching.

[Alicia Krause]

If I were one of my friends that have experienced thankfully rare but real racist incidents in their lives, I would be so offended at like those stories not being able to be heard or those stories now being downplayed because of the stupidity and radicalism of leftist groups.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Alicia Krause]

Like the Southern Poverty Law Center.

[Adam Carolla]

Agree.

[Alicia Krause]

You are, you are undermining. It's like women who, who make up, you know, sexual assault allegations or blow them up. It's like you are undermining actual victims.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Alicia Krause]

And you're not doing anything to better them and help them move forward.

[Adam Carolla]

True.

[Alicia Krause]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Alicia Krause]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Alicia Krause]

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[Adam Carolla]

What's next?

[Alicia Krause]

All right. Ilhan Omar, she's a delight. I mean, so far we've named it like three of your favorite ladies today. Karen Bass, AOC and Ilhan Omar.

[Adam Carolla]

Ilhan Omar seems exceptionally angry all the time. Yeah, some people did some things.

[Alicia Krause]

Well, when you hate the where you live and you're forced to, you know, do represent the place where you live

[Adam Carolla]

in the United States. Yeah, she hates the United States.

[Alicia Krause]

She hates the United States as she serves as a representative of the United States. And you know, for her people in, in D.C. it's like you must if you're just like all the time about where you are.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Alicia Krause]

I could see being a little bitter about it.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know who this woman is who's annoying, Ilhan Omar, but I've said many times, and it's the Elise Stefanik thing she did with the presidents of Harvard and the Ivy League schools. You gotta get a woman and the woman, if it's an attractive woman, it's even better. Because women, they can't take it. If it's a dude, it'll be different.

[Alicia Krause]

This was a Lindell TV reporter.

[Adam Carolla]

So she, she does a lot of this stuff. And Ilhan, this isn't their first dust up.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh, really? What I'm saying, she's, she's done this before, right? So she went to ask Ilhan Omar about how she was tied to this $250 million voter fraud.

[Adam Carolla]

Right?

[Alicia Krause]

Million dollar fraud. It wasn't voter fraud. It was like. It was the Minnesota House Fraud Prevention and State Agency Oversight Committee that was reaching out to ask about how she had introduced a bill that expanded the eligibility of food distributors so they weren't just the federally funded child nutrition program, it was non school entities. And that led to a ton of fraud. And then of course, on top of that, they wanted to talk to her about how she and her husband have some discrepancies.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that's financial disclosure. That's what this clip is.

[Alicia Krause]

So. And then that's what this clip is. And, and she does not like it.

[Adam Carolla]

Not happy.

[Alicia Krause]

The last time I spoke to you, you said That I was stupid for asking you about your financial disclosure, but there's some discrepancies on there. Would you like to explain that? How you make such a big mistake? Absolutely. For asking me anything?

[Adam Carolla]

I am, yes.

[Alicia Krause]

Well, what about the American people who are wondering how you made such a big mistake? Explain to the American people what's the explanation?

[Adam Carolla]

I have given them the explanation.

[Alicia Krause]

Do you want to tell our viewers? Because they're. I don't want to tell you.

[Janiah Thomas]

New Jack shift.

[Alicia Krause]

How about that? Okay. Okay.

[Janiah Thomas]

Have a good day.

[Adam Carolla]

Thank you, Carson.

[Alicia Krause]

I mean, it's. It's kind of creepy how she's just like kicking a fake smile on her face the whole time.

[Adam Carolla]

It's also weird.

[Alicia Krause]

Also that girl's grin at the end.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm laughing because that I just watched, you know, 10 minutes of Nick Shirley chasing elected officials up and down sidewalks. And they're like, I'm not talking. It's like, why don't you talk to people who have questions? You know what I mean? It's kind of part of your job. You're making rules. People wanna know. And nobody would even stop and really talk to Nick Shirley, which is a weird thing because that's what elected officials

[Alicia Krause]

are supposed to do.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree with that. And also this thing where you explained it, or there's a reasonable. Like, anytime I've ever gotten to an argument with a woman, I have then gone, no, that's not what happened. Let me explain why you thought, I will mansplain to it and it'll be a reasonable explanation because that's what happened. But that's. If you have a good argument now, if you just get caught cheating, you just get caught cheating. But if you actually have an argument or a reason, then go ahead and lay it on us.

[Alicia Krause]

But I think that part of the reason I love the Nick Shirley chasing around Democrats and the supermajority up in Sacramento is because they for so long have kept reporters and influencers and social media people from that building and asking them questions because they don't have an answer to the questions, whether, even if it was from their own friendly side. I think that they're in such a bubble and so used to getting away with whatever they want to get away with that they don't have any answers to any questions, whether they're easy or tough.

[Adam Carolla]

The reporters. Allison Steinberg from Lindell tv, well, there's another clip of her bugging the shit out of Ilhan Omar, which is longer as well, by the way. It should all be women. They should all be Attractive. And they should only talk to female congresspeople and they get under their skin a little, and then that's it. The claws come out. That can't stop.

[Alicia Krause]

I also. This goes back to, like, the horrible Karen Bass, like, clip when she was in Africa, and they were like, why didn't you come back? Or why did you go when there was a risk of fire?

[Adam Carolla]

She was at the airport.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

In la.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And she got back from Africa. Right. And she wouldn't talk.

[Alicia Krause]

And she was like. And she wouldn't talk.

[Adam Carolla]

And I'm like, by the way, again, you're not allowed to be angered by people when they ask you questions that are relevant to your job.

[Alicia Krause]

And so I think that even if Ilhan Omar in that clip, she's like, I already told the American people. And I'm like, then repeat it. If you already have a talking point, then please repeat the talking point.

[Adam Carolla]

I live in America. I don't know what her excuse was from going from, you know, 30 million to 100,000 or whatever it was.

[Alicia Krause]

It was like, 100,000.

[Adam Carolla]

She said it was an accounting error, but that's not really an explanation.

[Alicia Krause]

It's a lot of zeros.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Oh, we got another. Have her go. By the way, Like I said, she should only bother women because women can't stand other women coming at them.

[Alicia Krause]

Hi, Congresswoman Omar, you were just talking about how Trump's economy has failed the American people, but I think the American people really want to know how you went from a negative 65,000 before coming into Congress to over $30 million in just seven years.

[Janiah Thomas]

My disclosure is public.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, it is. And so a lot of people now are looking into that and finding Escrew Winery, a winery that doesn't actually seem to exist. Is that a real winery, or do

[Janiah Thomas]

you all actually look at and read things, or do you just ask silly questions?

[Alicia Krause]

Well, it's listed in the financial disclosure, so can you explain it? Because we have a lot of questions about it and things just aren't adding up. There's no real phone number, there's no real location. Why?

[Janiah Thomas]

Did you want to bite some way?

[Alicia Krause]

Probably not from you, to be honest. Recently stated that the American people should be afraid of the white man. They should be fearful of the white man.

[Janiah Thomas]

I never said that.

[Alicia Krause]

You're on video saying it.

[Janiah Thomas]

Our country should be more fearful of white men across our country because they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country.

[Alicia Krause]

Like her husband.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, her husband. Again, sorry, go back. Go back Thursday because it's funny, she goes I never said that. People act like there's not video. All right, this is fine. Here we go. That's why she hates this woman so much.

[Alicia Krause]

The American people should be afraid of the white man. They should be fearful of the white man.

[Janiah Thomas]

I never said that.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, you're on video saying it.

[Janiah Thomas]

Our country should be more fearful of white men across our country because they are actually causing most of the deaths within this country.

[Adam Carolla]

I did not.

[Janiah Thomas]

Yes, you again.

[Alicia Krause]

This is like what I said. You need to prepare yourself because you

[Janiah Thomas]

can't continue embarrassing yourself.

[Alicia Krause]

Stuff like this. So I'm just a liar?

[Janiah Thomas]

What I was quoting was an actual study done by the FBI.

[Adam Carolla]

Ah, study.

[Alicia Krause]

Thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

Just prepare next time, all right?

[Alicia Krause]

Thank you for. Prepare.

[Adam Carolla]

Prepare. All right. She was quoting an actual study that Joe Biden said to do so he could find more racism so he could be right.

[Alicia Krause]

Sponsored by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, they're studying.

[Alicia Krause]

Should we make some T shirts?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

Sponsored by this race is sponsored by Southern Poverty Law School.

[Adam Carolla]

They put together a study and they found what Joe told them to find.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Guess what? The tobacco companies put together a study in the 80s that said nicotine's not addictive. They put a study together. By the way, every single expert witness that Mark Gergas hires on a trial, they're experts. They say exactly what Mark tells them to say. They're extra ballistic experts. They're blood spatter. They're all experts. And they say exactly what Mark wants them to say. And then on the other side of the aisle, they have an expert for the other side. And they say the exact same thing their lawyer wants them to say. So that's how the studies work. Everybody and the experts, that's how they work.

[Alicia Krause]

You gotta look at the data like the. Who paid for this thing that says that two glasses of red wine a night is good for your iron levels.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, I'm happy about that study, but no, I'll tell you what you really need to do. You need to do your own study. Like I did my own study on Covid. This is not killing any healthy kids. My friends. My kids have tons of friends. I haven't heard one story. I have tons of friends who have kids that haven't heard one story. I'm looking around. Turn on the news. You wanna turn on the news? You'll see tons of footage of, like, young black men punching Asian women in San Francisco. You don't see Klan rallies. God, they wish they had them. But just look around. Just look around. How many people got shot in Chicago last year and we think that was the Klan. So anyway, they just fudge whatever all the time. And then also you will be an expert at everything if you just kind of use common sense and eyeballs. Yeah, you could learn everything you need to learn about COVID just by common

[Alicia Krause]

sense discernment a little bit too like your gut instinct or.

[Adam Carolla]

Half the people that told me to put a mask on had the strap on their mask twisted. So it made a figure 8 and made a 7, 8, 8 gap on the side of their mask where I can see their face and nose. So maybe, maybe the mask isn't as effective as they think it is.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, what else you got?

[Alicia Krause]

Speaking of fudging things, a top MAGA influencer has been revealed to be completely AI. It was created by a guy in India who made a mint of money off of lonely men. So this guy named Sam in quotations marks was a 30, a 22 year old orthopedic surgeon in training. And he told Wired that he got the idea to sell AI generated images of a young woman in a bikini while scrounging for money in school and trying to save up enough to immigrate to the US after graduation. So I guess he decided to dupe men in the US about using AI about this like MAGA Galaxy. And the profile in one post showed her firing a rifle with the caption, quote, if you want a reason to unfollow, Christ is king, abortion is murder and all illegals must be deported. And pov, you were assigned intelligent at birth, but you identify as liberal. He said he told Wired magazine, quote, every day I'd write something pro Christian, pro second Amendment, pro life, anti abortion, anti woke and anti immigration. And the account blew up. Emily Hart had 10,000 followers within a month. And every reel that he posted garnered millions of views and earned him even more followers. He thinks that he spent about 30 to 50 minutes of the day and he apparently was making pretty decent money on this scheme.

[Adam Carolla]

So this beautiful blonde we're looking at is fake. Completely generated.

[Alicia Krause]

Completely AI generated by a 22 year old kid in India.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what actually works? And the bikini shot, they're holding the camera up so it's like a selfie shot, which is kind of diabolical because for some reason that part of it would fool me. Yeah, I would go, if this was just generated, why are they taking a picture of themselves?

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, I mean, her fingers look a little weird.

[Adam Carolla]

A little weird, I think.

[Alicia Krause]

And her face looks more real in the bikini shot. So does the hair. Like, even, like, you know, being a blonde. Lighting is my downfall. Usually in black. Shirts on camera are not great. Cause it's like you can just see all the, like, wispies and stuff. And like, there are wispies. It looks like there's natural light behind her, you know, it's kind of crazy. The one on the right, like the drop the American flag emoji. If you agree, she looks a little too, like, filtered there that I think I'd take a second glance. But, I mean, I talk to Gen Z gals in my life all the time. They're like, oh, my God. I had to unfollow an account. I figured out that it was AI and I was so embarrassed in myself for not knowing any better.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, I don't know if the next generation is even going to care for me. It's kind of an interesting thing. So you go, this is a Beyond Burger. Whatever it is, it's not a real steak. It's a simulated steak. Or that's not real pornography. That's AI pornography. Or that wasn't an actual stuntman. That was all computer generated with the car going off the bridge, you know? And I think we are of the age where that kind of stuff ruins it for us. Like, I go, that didn't really happen. Okay.

[Alicia Krause]

Takes a little bit of the magic away, I think.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Especially when it comes to look. Sorry to go into the realm of porn, but people go, I love, you know, Jennifer Aniston. And they go, oh, there's a topless picture of Jennifer Aniston. And you go, oh, I want to see that. And then you go, oh, that's not really Jennifer Aniston all of a sudden. All right, now, look, it's still basically Jennifer Aniston naked. You know what I mean? But it's not really her. And I don't know if future generations are gonna care. And, you know, we used to. There used to be simulated wood. Not talking about porn. Talking about actual wood grain and stuff that was like, simulated wood grain. Looked like shit. Like countertops made out of Formica that were supposed to look like wood. Or vinyl floor tiles.

[Alicia Krause]

Or quartz versus quartzite. Like how it's gotten better.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know. I know you're talking about, like, countertops.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, yeah. Like the one that's made to look

[Adam Carolla]

like, oh, stuff looks good. Point. Stuff looks good now is what I'm saying. So if you took a car, let's say. Let's say a Mustang 2, Dawson. Mustang 2, like from the 70s, it had, like, a fake wood steering wheel and a fake wood stick shift knob, and it looked shitty. Now you can get porcelain tile floors that look like oak. And it looks good now. Like, stuff is. The simulation kind of works now has shifted now then the kind of question is, yeah, but I still like the vibe of an actual wood floor. Like when I'm walking around with my shoes off in the morning, you know? So now you get into that. But I don't know whether it's flooring or Jennifer Aniston's titties. I don't know if people are gonna care. The next group, they're gonna just grow up watching it.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, I think. But I think that there is an interesting. When I go to college campuses or interact with the next generation, like, there is something about. Like, they are so digital in a lot of ways, but they also really enjoy, like, real life experiences and see the need to, like, touch grass.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

So broadly speaking. And so I'm just like. And unfortunately, we've seen. I mean, look at, like, some of these Asian nations that, like, the men aren't dating. Cause they're having sex with robots and just watching anime porn.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on. Let me yell at Andrew. Andrew, did you think I was looking for a distant shot of the outside of a Mustang 2? Because I know what a Mustang 2 looks like. No, I'm saying the steering wheel. My bad. That's on me. We'll get the interior pictures, the steering wheel, and the stick. I'm not asking what a Mustang 2 is. Okay. It happens a lot.

[Alicia Krause]

But to your point, I think that that can lead to the continual downfall of society when everything is so fake that people don't want to have real human interaction and do real things like drive an old car.

[Adam Carolla]

Like look at a Mustang too from

[Alicia Krause]

a distance or drive that Mustang too, with the fake wood knob that you're talking about.

[Adam Carolla]

Stick shift knob, I think. And the steering wheel. And the thing that was funny is that is not it, but. Well, that's a custom steering wheel, I think. Well, we can go in a little tighter and see if that is it or not. That could be. It could be the Mustang II interior. But you got to pull in. I don't.

[Alicia Krause]

I feel like I love how he's highlighting. This is the Mustang 2 interior.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. If it's a. That is an aftermarket steering wheel, I think. So now you got to find.

[Alicia Krause]

What about the dash? Like, that looks.

[Adam Carolla]

Dash is fake wood, too. Yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

It has that, like, not to knock. My friends and family that have grown up or live in trailer parks. But, you know, like some of those trailers from, like, the 80s and the 90s that had, like, the side, like the interior faux siding. That's what that dash looked like to me.

[Adam Carolla]

The sad part is, is that a real Mustang 2 interior or is that an aftermarket wheel that says Ford Mustang ii?

[Alicia Krause]

That's the image I keep getting.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Oh, and the steering wheel's the same on all of them? Yeah. Huh.

[Alicia Krause]

It looked better than you thought. It did.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, it's the center part that looked like aftermarket to me.

[Alicia Krause]

Gotcha.

[Adam Carolla]

The thing that was funny is I still think that was an aftermarket steering wheel. The funny part is where you held it like 10 and 2, eventually the grain would wear off and it'd just be like weird beige base plastic color there. Like, you could wear the fake grain.

[Alicia Krause]

It was like painted on.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

Like laminated or something.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, it's not. It's plastic, so there is no actual grain. You know? Uh. Oh, we got an update. That's what a steering wheel on a Mustang too looks like. Not the stupid aftermarket one that you have. I don't know. That's off a dune buggy. Because I know everything. Because I know everything. Yeah, but a lot of people change their steering wheels. That's all. That's all that's left. Listen, let me ask you this. Why is it every time I tell someone to look up a car on the Internet, the first one comes on with aftermarket rims and exhaust and like that? Why is that? Because all These cars are 50 years old and people with them. These original stuff. It just does. It's not out there. You should have known that first picture was not standard Mustang.

[Alicia Krause]

This reminds me the interior of my grandmother's, like, two door Lincoln Continental from the late 80s.

[Adam Carolla]

Burnt orange, baby.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh, my gosh. Hers was like burgundy.

[Adam Carolla]

I remember that Mustang 2 ad campaign. Shall I sing it?

[Alicia Krause]

Sure.

[Adam Carolla]

Mustang 2. Boredom. Zero. I didn't get it. My whole life they're keeping score. I didn't. I was. I was 11. I was like. I don't know what that means. You have zero model. That one. Yeah. Must. But by the way, two nothing is not exactly a landslide. You know what I mean? Like every NBA game starts off, it's two nothing. It's. How does it feel? Like a. Yeah. White people in commercials.

[Carl Zinsmeister]

Two plus two Stallion and Cobra.

[Adam Carolla]

Two Cobra Mustang twos for 76 at your Ford dealer. More white people. All white people. Even the singers are white. All right, I'm gonna be in Vegas coming up. That'll be May 9th and 10th. Doing stand up. Oh, yeah. Kimmel's club, four shows. And then Covina, Laugh Factory. Oh, Special big guest. Big special guest.

[Alicia Krause]

Can you tell me off air?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I'll tell you off air. I can't for certain reasons, but big guest for that. And then Visalia, Fox Theater. And that'll be 15th of May 16th, Modesto State Theater. Go to amcro.com for all the live stuff. Got lots of merch at the merch store, Channel 2. What do you got? Alicia Krause.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh, you know, read my stuff over at the Daily Wire. Check me out on Instagram.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm. So and until next time, Adam, Carolla, Fortunia Thomas and Alicia Krause saying mahalo. Leave us a voicemail at 888-634-1744. Mustang 2. Get tickets to see the Ace man at Adam Care roller.com.

[Alicia Krause]

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