Jobob Reflects on the Life of Close Friend Charlie Kirk

Summary

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Adam Carolla Show – Jobob Reflects on the Life of Close Friend Charlie Kirk

Date: September 18, 2025
Guest: Joe Bob Talifi (Turning Point USA)
Regulars: Adam Carolla (Host), Jason “Mayhem” Miller (News), Mike Dawson (Announcer, Sidekick)

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Episode Overview

In this special episode, Adam Carolla is joined by Joe Bob Talifi, host of "Turning Point Tonight," for an unflinching, wide-ranging discussion following the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk. As Kirk’s close friend and former tour partner, Joe Bob offers an insider’s emotional perspective on his legacy, the polarized reaction to his death, and the broader cultural and political moment in America. The conversation is layered with Adam’s signature rants, cultural commentary, and sharp humor, as well as candid, sometimes absurd sidebars with “Mayhem” Miller and Dawson. The episode explores radicalization, the dangers of echo chambers, generational divides, and what it means to be “curious” in the current media era.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Society’s Obsession with “Hate” and Radicalization

(03:00–14:00)

• Carolla rails against “end hate” slogans (NFL, public spaces), arguing it's manufactured hysteria:

  “We're acting as if we're drowning in hate when we really don't have any ... you guys called it a candle, but it's a f*cking train coming to hit us.” (05:30)

• Mayhem links overuse of "hate" to radicalization – individuals are convinced violence is righteous to stamp it out.
• Discussion of Tyler Robinson’s radicalization following exposure to identity politics, drawing parallels to the assassination climate.

  “You radicalized a guy into a society that he thinks is full of hate, that isn’t full of hate.” – Adam (07:20)

• Hyperbolic hypothetical: Would you rather your child date a trans man or woman? Used to spotlight shifting cultural mores. (10:00–12:30)

2. Media, Political Violence, and the Breakdown of Discourse

(14:00–26:00)

• Adam and Mayhem discuss a poll:

  “48% of Democrats think America might be better off if Trump had been assassinated.” (19:16–19:32, cited by Dawson)

• Contrast drawn between those with “combat experience” and coddled youth – arguing those familiar with real violence are less prone to endorse or cheer it.
• Audio and commentary on a college student’s justification for the assassination of Kirk:

  College Student: “If you're gonna spread hateful sht ... don't act crazy when other people are gonna fcking come and shoot you.” (25:00) Carolla: “She treats getting assassinated like somebody got a parking ticket ... It's victim blaming.” (26:44)

3. The Modern Workplace, Cell Phones, and Productivity

(28:00–45:00)

• Adam reflects on the blending of “home” and “work” through cellphones, observing that all entertainment and communication is now omnipresent on the job. He argues this shift diminishes “work ethic” as understood by older generations.

  “Workplace has almost ... bring your home to work now with the phone.” (35:15)

• Mayhem adds: Young fighters check TikTok between reps; the next step is ‘direct neural link’ distractions.
• Dawson points out the flip-side: We bring work home now too, making some cross-over inevitable. (44:00)

4. The News Segment and Societal Absurdities

(45:45–54:56)

• Mayhem delivers news about Ben & Jerry’s founder leaving, state terrorism charges dropped against Luigi Mangione.
• Sidebar tangents: Carolla’s bit on “traffic czar” and rants about costumed bicyclists and non-contributing societal members:

  “Anybody who is out front of the courthouse cheering on Luigi on a weekday during work hours, I’ll round your ass up. You’re going to El Salvador too.” (52:08)

• Parade of oddball protestors:

  “There's a vid out there of her explaining that she's married his AI ... AI is the future of romance.” – College protestor (54:32–55:16)

5. Reflections on Charlie Kirk – Personal and Cultural Impact

(65:55–73:37)

• Joe Bob joins, recounts Kirk’s prodigious memory, drive, and uniqueness:

  “Lean into what you do best. Mimicking that guy ... is impossible for average people.” (69:15)

• Kirk’s impact was felt on an “astonishing scale”—more so than many celebrities.

  “I've never seen such a universally reacted-to thing on a universal scale.” – Adam (73:37)

• Joe Bob describes his grief as mourning for the state of the country as much as Kirk himself:

  “I wasn't crying because of a safety concern, I was crying because of the state of the country.” (72:58)

• Conversation notes both the “outpouring” of support and the genuinely “gross” joy displayed by parts of the far left.

6. Media Echo Chambers, Curiosity, and Honest Debate

(74:16–91:03)

• Adam and Joe Bob argue left-leaning media consumers aren’t aware of right-wing grievances or stories:

  “CNN’s on at the airport ... I know what’s going on on your side. You can’t avoid it. You have no idea.” – Adam (75:07)

• Contrast in information flows: “Uncurious men” are the greatest danger, according to Joe Bob, who links it to the decline of American engagement.

  “All the most successful people I know are the curious people. That’s your secret weapon.” – Adam (82:06)

• Clips and role-play satirize politicians (Gavin Newsom, Amy Klobuchar) evading hard questions by pivoting or obfuscating—a “cul de sac you can’t escape" (86:12).

7. Politician Performances, Identity Politics, and Sincerity

(97:13–110:08)

• Discussion and parody of Gavin Newsom’s praise for “the Latino community”:

  “Without the gay and trans community, we wouldn’t be ... I think we’d be fine. We did fine without the trans community for a long time.” (106:23)

• Extended mockery of politicians’ fake accents and superficial tributes (“You picked the cabbages, you cleaned the toilets ...”).
• Adam’s analogy: Like a dog in an ‘80s movie that knows who the villain is, some people “just know” Newsom is insincere while others fawn over him.

8. California’s Challenges and Politicians’ Evasiveness

(110:10–119:30)

• Adam and Joe Bob dissect Gavin Newsom’s muddled answer (clip) to why people are leaving California—agreeing he simply talks in circles and never fixes problems.
• Joe Bob jokes about “government jobs” inflating California’s economic ranking.
• Kamala Harris’s “word salad” and staff prepping, or failing to prep, for simple questions.
• Joe Bob’s plug: Find him at “JOBOB” everywhere (“not many brown guys named Joe Bob.”)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the danger of constant anti-hate messaging:

  “These assholes have been screaming that everyone’s full of hate. So who’s full of hate? Well, everyone they disagree with ... so a small percentage of people will pick up a gun at some point and ‘end hate’ for us.” – Adam Carolla (06:50–07:30)

• On media fragmentation:

  “I have found the boxers, the fighters, the guys who get in and get it on are much less volatile outside of the gym.” (22:11)

• On the “assassination culture” poll:

  “Assassination culture is spreading. On the left, 48% of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. 55% said the same about Donald Trump.” – Read by Dawson, quoting Kirk (23:41)

• On the importance of curiosity:

  “All the most successful people I know are the curious people. That’s your secret weapon.” – Adam (82:06)

• On Charlie Kirk’s rare gifts:

  “You don’t know anybody like him. ... He squeezed every last ounce out of every single minute of every single day.” – Joe Bob (70:41)

• On politicians’ deflections:

  “He pulled a Rob Reiner—Rob Reiner did know about it, didn’t know about it, didn’t know if Bill knew, do you know, does she know ... Answer the question!” – Adam (116:57)

• On insincere political praise:

  “You did it Mexicans – you harvested all the vegetables … you cleaned all the vomit and the bedpans. Joe, you earned a lollipop here.” – Adam parodying politicians (104:49)

• On Gavin Newsom’s leadership:

  “He’s a piece of shit … don’t overestimate or underestimate people’s ability to be dumb and make horrible, horrible decisions.” (111:49)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening Rant & "End Hate" Discussion: 03:00–14:00
• Radicalization & Trans Hypothetical: 10:41–13:28
• Assassination Poll & Reactions: 19:16–22:21
• Modern Workplace and Phones: 28:00–45:00
• "News" Segment – Mangione, AI girlfriend bits: 45:49–54:56
• Charlie Kirk Legacy with Joe Bob: 65:55–75:07
• Bill Maher/Rob Reiner Media Disinfo Discussion: 74:16–91:03
• Mock Politician Riffs, Latino Heritage Parody: 97:13–110:08
• Newsom’s Evading on California Exodus: 110:10–119:30

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Tone and Style

• Language: Unfiltered, informal, frequent swearing, blend of genuine emotion, absurdity, and satire
• Vibe: Combines “guy-at-the-bar-ranting” with flashes of earnest grief and cultural analysis, spiked with punchy back-and-forth banter
• Approach: Often jumps between cultural critique, pointed media criticism, comedic bits, and tangents before returning to Charlie Kirk’s personal significance

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For Those Who Haven’t Listened

This episode captures a bruising, candid reflection on the death of a political lightning rod, seen through the eyes of his close friend and the grizzly, acerbic host Adam Carolla. Alongside expected irreverence and sidebars, Adam and Joe Bob deliver a nuanced eulogy on the dangers of demonizing opponents, the tribal drift of American life, and the value of curiosity in a time of echo chambers. While touching on Charlie Kirk’s unique capabilities and legacy, they also lampoon the superficiality of today’s politics and media, offering both anger and laughs in equal measure.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Well, in this episode, Mayhem's going to do the news. I got a lot of commentary. Joe Bob, who was Charlie Kirk's right hand man, always out on tour with the man, he's going to come in, we'll talk about that as well. And we'll do all that right after this. Hey, this is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show. Betonline continues to be your number one source for all your football betting action. Betonline has more ways to get in and stay in on action with the latest odds, news and scores. Even live in game betting from every NFL and college game to mlb, UFC and NHL futures as well, Betonline remains your choice. For sports wagering info, head to the website today and take advantage of their industry leading VIP program which with level up bonuses and weekly cash boost in between games, head over to Betonline's casino with all the top Vegas style games including poker and live casino Betonline. The game starts here.

[Dawson]

From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today from Turning Point usa, Joe Bob Talifi. Plus the news with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now angry rants are his love language. Adam Corolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice because the minute you get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. We love that about you. By the way. YouTube page just hit 500,000 subscribers. So that's a nice little milestone for humble old us. And lots of good stuff on there with the vlogs and lots of other clips and whatnot. So enjoy that. Subscribe Mayhem in Studio I got thoughts now. My thoughts are generally stuff that everyone says, so what? What's wrong with that? So what? Leave it alone. What do you care? And I care. And for instance, my daughter, years ago, probably 10 years ago now, I was arguing with her about something and we're walking her to the garage to get in the car to go to school and I was explaining to her that this is not, whatever you think happened didn't happen. You're misinterpreting it. And she looked at me and she went, that's the way I feel. If I feel that way, then that's the way it is because that's the way I feel. And I was like, I don't care how you feel, I'm telling you. And then my ex wife went, she feels that way, so it's right. And then they got in the car and they drove away and I stood in the, I stood in the garage with a 10,000 yard stare. And I just thought, oh, we're in trouble because we entered some reality where if you feel one way, then it is now. And everybody would look at me and go, so what? She feels that way. I go, this is a big problem. And I do this a lot. I go, look out, there's a problem coming. And we're here. We're getting hit in the fucking face with it. I'm the guy that. Who sees a dim light way in the distance at night, and someone goes, oh, someone must have lit a candle. And I go, that's a fucking light in the front of a freight train. And they go, that's a candle. I think it's a candle. And I go, I think it's a fucking train and it's coming our way. And they go, I can't even tell from here but what's wrong with a candle? And then they laugh and they walk away and eventually just fucking get hit in the face with a train. But I called it back when you guys called it a candle. I have been railing against the end. The hate. Stop, stop hate, Stop. Racism. End racism. I go, stop it. Stop saying it all the time. And everyone's like, what's wrong with the NFL putting end hate or stop hate. I go, because you're acting as if we're drowning in hate when we really don't have any hate or whatever hate we have. It is what's wrong with Joe Biden? Every third speech, talking about white supremacy being the biggest problem and whatever. And it's like, because something will be created out of this. So this guy, Tyler Robinson, he had his text exchange with his boyfriend who's a dude who's becoming a chick. I don't know. As a dad. Mayhem. I had this thought. This is up there with my hypothetical of would you like your daughter working at the Spearmint Rhino or cleaning the glass at the Spearmint Round? The mirror. The one that cleans the mirror and the pole in between dancers or on the billboard but not working there. There's a Power Rank. Yes. Now you can go, well, I'll just have her cleaning the glass. But that's kind of a weird and sad job too, you know what I mean? Like, if one of your high school buddies showed up and saw your daughter dancing Experiment Rhino, that might be weird, but cleaning the mirror is a weird job. That just means she's too chubby to dance. Okay. Anyway, all right. Would you rather your son. I'm opening this up to you too, Dawson. As A dad, obviously. This guy Tyler's dad. So they do this thing where it's like, well, the family's conservative and the family's Christian. Yeah, I know. And the son was radicalized. Radicalized. He didn't start off that way. He was a Christian and he was conservative too. And then he got out into the world and he got radicalized. But radicalized.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

A weird word for got a beach from his roommate.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, here's what I'm saying. In his exchange with his roommate, he said, I had enough of this hatred. Of his hatred. He's talking about Charlie Kirk. Some hate can't be negotiated. Okay? So he's. He's going to put an end to the hate. He's putting an end to the hate. You see, Charlie Kirk hates. And the NFL says to end hate or to stop hate. So how do you stop a hater? You got to do it with a.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Gun prone position from, you know, football field.

[Adam Carolla]

So stop hate. And what's on the side of the lifeguard station in Malibu? We're going to make it a hate free beach. It's. We're going to end hate, L.A. county has a whole end hate webpage and stuff. California is for everybody. Where does it say hate on there? Sorry. Stop hate. Yeah, Stop hate in action. What is hate? Okay, these assholes have been screaming that everyone's full of hate. Okay, so who's full of hate? Well, Charlie hurts full of hate. And Donald Trump's full of hate. And JD Vance is full of hate. Everyone they disagree with is full of hate. We made a commitment to end hate, to stop hate. Well, it doesn't seem like we're gonna talk Charlie Kirk out of his hate. He says it in his exchange with his boyfriend. Hey, he's married to hate and he's gonna keep going and I'm just gonna have to stop it. So nice job radicalizing this guy into a society that he thinks is full of hate, that isn't full of hate. But because you guys put on the back of every fucking helmet in the NFL and every end zone and you can't even make it to the lifeguard. Where's my lifeguard station? I can't even make it to a lifeguard station or tower in Malibu without seeing a sign explaining how much hate we have in our society. Well, a small percentage of people will pick up a gun at some point and end hate for us. Keep our beaches hate free. Okay, first off, hate. When I grew up, hate just was for Brussels sprouts. Hate was for Brussels sprouts. That's the only. You just go, I hate Brussels sprouts. That's all we had, and we didn't really use it anywhere else but that. But now, evidently, there's hate everywhere. We're just dripping with hate. There's so much hate that we have to post the sign on Sundays on football fields. We have to take grown men who are trying to kill each other on a football field and on the back of their helmet. We have to explain that we're trying to stop hate while we're trying to clothesline a wide receiver coming over the middle of Irkin custom. Okay, so why do I react this way to the innocuous stop hate? Well, it suggests there's a lot of hate. And then you're gonna take certain people and you're gonna convince them that a lot of that hate comes from guys like Charlie Kirk, and we need to stop his hate.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

When you frame it like that, then it's a noble thing that he did. Even patriotic, I'm sure.

[Adam Carolla]

Look, if Hitler needs to be assassinated and Trump is Hitler, then you gotta assassinate Trump and. Or Charlie Kirk or anyone helping Hitler rise to power. So it's an easy math.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Suitcase bomb.

[Adam Carolla]

This guy.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

McDonald's bomb.

[Adam Carolla]

This guy did it. The argument of his family was Christian. His family was conservative. You're making my argument. He probably was that way from 0 to 16 and a half, and then he went out into the world and he got weaponized with all your fucking hate speak. Jesus Christ. All right, hypothetical. Your son is dating a trans person. Do you want the dude who's transitioning into a woman or the woman who's transitioning into a man? Cause I could kind of make an argument for both, you know?

[Dawson]

Well, it depends on how far into the transition we are.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

That's. Well, I'm saying there's a vagina involved in one of these equations.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so let's say no surgery. No surgery. What do you want? Mayhem?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

But I'm saying, you know what? If you're gonna commit, go full mont. You know, play tummy sticks and get it on.

[Adam Carolla]

So you're saying you would like your son.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I wouldn't mind, you know, to love men either way.

[Dawson]

Yeah, we were a Hungry Hungry Hippos kind of gang. But we'll play tummy sticks.

[Adam Carolla]

We'll play tummy sticks. Yeah, there's. Don't spill the beans. Don't break the ice. Hungry hungry rings. All right, so you go.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I say either way. To me, I'm very.

[Adam Carolla]

You got to pick one. You got to pick One, though. This is male to female.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I mean, look, I'm guessing.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. What? Male? Female.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

It's a girl. Boy, that looks like a dude. Workout together, they probably do grappling. You know, I'm saying I think it will work out.

[Adam Carolla]

Male to female. You'll take. With no surgery, Dawson. With no surgery.

[Dawson]

With no surgery. It would depend on how. Whichever one looks more like a girl, I would go for the outward appearance. So if it's a dude that looks more like a girl, like $60,000 worth of surgery, I'd rather he was dating a dude.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, because you need him to pass. Because the dude with no surgery, I mean, the chick with no surgery's got the lady parts. And the sex is going to be male on female, theoretically.

[Dawson]

Wait, wait. Are there boobs involved?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Got a hack.

[Dawson]

That's the thing.

[Adam Carolla]

None other.

[Dawson]

No surgery.

[Adam Carolla]

There's no surgery involved. Yeah.

[Dawson]

Then I gotta go the other way.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

That's what I'm saying. The other way.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah. We're talking hormones. You know what I mean?

[Adam Carolla]

Nah, I don't. I don't. It's confusing. There's no right. There's no wrong answer here. Either way, Tyler Robinson got radicalized because we hit everyone over the head with hate.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Well, you keep saying that word got radicalized, but it sounds like he fell in love with a boy, transitioned to a girl, and then it broke his brain because his daddy told him the gays are evil. His whole life, Charlie Kirk is out there saying something similar. So the passion took him over, and at 22 years old, that forebrain ain't developed. He just got excited, and now he's.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I should say. Let's say. Let's say. I'll say radicalize in this way. If you fall in love with a guy who's transitioning and you are convinced that somebody could be Charlie Kirk, JD Vance, or whatever is just spewing hate for these people, then that could motivate you to make a move.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Completely. I called this as soon as this thing came out because they were saying, oh, he's right wing. I said, no, no, no, no. His family grew up, but then, you know, he grew up that way, but then something hit.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, he's right. Yeah. He's not right wing. Yeah, right. He's. He's right. So he. But here's my whole point. Charlie Kirk had thoughts that were different than this guy's thoughts, but this sort of, like, racist, misogynist, homophobic. Those weren't his thoughts. His thoughts were, I hope everyone is heterosexual, has A family and gets married. But if you don't do that, it's not something I'd wish for my kids. But this is America. You can go do it. This guy was lied to and conditioned the same way, by the way. The same people do the same thing to Trump. You know what I mean? You got Gavin Newsom, who closed the beaches, closed the parks, closed the schools, wanted everyone's businesses closed down while he ate French laundry. And he's talking about totalitarian dictatorship while he fucking sipped Chebbing champagne.

[Dawson]

It goes even way further than that on a. On a. On a national level. One party censored opinions on social media. One party forced the citizens to get an untested drug injected into them in order to work. And one party has a sizable membership that are for the extermination of Israel.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, also, that sounds. You can look.

[Dawson]

That sounds like a fascist sign.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, by the way, it just came out that Joe Biden's FBI was looking into Charlie Kirk's organization, and they unleashed them on all the conservative organizations and Republicans. Whatever they're using, they weaponize the FBI. There's an interesting. Dawson, you can look for this, but Charlie Kirk came out with an article, a take tweet. I don't remember exactly what form. It came in a column. They interviewed Democrats, and, I don't know, 44% of them said it'd be okay to assassinate the President. Like, it was an alarmingly crazy high number. So why do they think it's okay?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

So here's what you like, Ace, and you're missing a big point here. There's certain propaganda outlets that are out there that are very popular, and what's happening is that these talking points getting repeated and repeated, and then Charlie Kirk's speeches have been taken out of context and framed as hate.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, yeah.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

So now somebody was bound to climb the roof.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I completely understand that. I'm just saying it was an alarmingly high group of Democrats who thought it would be okay to put a bullet in. And Donald Trump.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

And that's what happened to America, man. I remember we used to have a press. Everybody would at least get over it for a little while. And we just now are all fragmented into these different splinter groups. No one gets along. It's really making me mad as an American.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, we'll find this. I don't know. It's a Charlie Kirk thing. It's not that old. It's out there.

[Dawson]

I'm sure it is. I'm sure it isn't that old. And I'm sure It is out there. But finding the exact words to find that one small piece will be flooded with everything else is going to be.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, you can find it. Google in what percentage of Democrats think killing Trump is okay or something. It's alarmingly high. All right. The other thing I was going to get into was, well, maybe I'll. I'll wait till our guest gets here to get into this. Here's one I never thought of. I don't know, did anyone else think of this? You ever have thoughts where you go, wait, am I nuts? Or does everyone else think this way or whatever it is? I was talking about the time difference in Iran because I was talking to your podcast buddy on his show and I kept saying, it's like 13 hours Iran or 12 hours difference ahead of us or whatever. But I kept saying, I kept throwing this number out. And then when I was driving home, I thought, I don't really know how far ahead. Like, I know France is eight hours ahead or something like that, and Hawaii's two hours behind or something, but I don't know what Iran is. And I looked it up and it's ten and a half. And a half. I didn't know there were any halves. And then I thought, they're such a piece of shit country. They didn't even get a whole hour ahead or behind. They're 10 and a half.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

10.5 Greenwich, meantime, they're 10 and a.

[Adam Carolla]

Half in front of us. And like, I'm always like, oh, Arizona's an hour behind in New York's three hours ahead. I never knew there was a half. I didn't know there was a half. Did anyone else know there were half?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

China, they like split it up into like even more diminutive.

[Adam Carolla]

They can do quarters.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

They don't give a damn.

[Adam Carolla]

In all my time on this planet, of all the. What time is it in Europe? Or this guy's calling in from Strudeldorf, you know, what's nine hours over there? I've never got a half. And then I thought it was kind of funny, cuz they're like half a nation. Maybe we didn't give them a full hour. So I don't know how it works. Maybe they're situated on some international timeline, I don't know. But I'm not the only one who's never heard of a half. Right? Yeah.

[Dawson]

Never heard of it from one year ago. Shocking new poll shows 48% of Democrats think America might be better off if Trump had been assassinated.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Oh, that's different than that. We should shoot him. I thought you were saying that you shoot him.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not dramatically different. Well, I'll put it this way. If somebody said, let's say, I get it, let's just say hey to Dawson. And Dawson got in a horrible car crash, but he survived. And then you said to me, what do you think about Dawson's car crash? Well, I wish that drunken undocumented guy from El Salvador, I wish he would have killed him. That's not far away from me saying, I'd be happy if Dawson got into another car accident and this time it did the job. You know, that is half, that is literally half of the Democrats wishing that kid from Butler's bullet found its mark in Trump's skull. That is a lot of people who think a lot away and they are getting, they're thinking that way. And by the way, let's break it down. The Democrats, traditionally, and at least the ones I know are some of the softest, least combative, least aggressive, least, least probable to own firearms, least off. You know, they don't drive Ram trucks with lift kits on them. And they're not huge UFC fans. No gun racks. No gun racks. So these are the ones I know are fairly passive. They're like, they're not aggressive people. And you've taken 50% of that group and made them cheer on a sniper's bullet. That's crazy. Also mayhem. You may answer this. I have this theory that the people that are involved a little more with the combat, seen war, been in the ring, threw some hands, been fucked up on a football field a little bit, they have a little more realistic relationship. Half the people they interview are just 19 year old chicks who've never, they've never been choked out or backhanded or fucked up or shot or anything. And they're the ones screaming the loudest for all.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

This kind of divide people into people who have competed in something and people who haven't and been kind of coddled without just, let's dance around your feelings. And that's what I'm seeing is the country's divided people who like have actively.

[Adam Carolla]

I have found the boxers, the fighters, the guys I've dealt with who get in there and get it on are much less volatile outside of the gym. They seem to get it out of their system or they have a respect or relationship with it. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like the average military person has more respect for what a sniper's rifle can do versus the 19 year old chick on the college campus.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Well, you've been in a lot of chaotic kind of situations. You can be more calm and look at things rationally and not let your feelings get away with you.

[Adam Carolla]

And you also like the. I'll read you this thing, Andrew. You can find the college age girl clip that I showed with Dr. Drew that you found. And you can just hear the way she talks. And it's like, I'll read this though first. But she treats getting killed, getting assassinated like somebody got a parking ticket. She's like, well, you park in the handicap zone in front of the target, you're going to get a ticket. So what do you expect? You know, it's like, okay, my lady, but we got a guy who's dead who has kids and a wife and stuff. And she was just, all right, I'll read you this. This is Charlie Kirk from. Well, you can read it, Dawson. I don't know when it's from to figure out. I think it was that long ago.

[Dawson]

Assassination culture is spreading. On the left, 48% of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder Elon Musk. 55% said the same about Donald Trump. In California, activists are.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, pause it there for a second. All Elon Musk does is create jobs, pay taxes and solve fucking problems. And you want him dead. Okay, okay.

[Dawson]

In California, activists are naming ballot measures after Luigi Mangione. The left is being whipped into a violent frenzy. Any setback, whether losing an election or losing a court case, justifies a maximally maximum violent response. This is the natural outgrowth of left wing protest culture, tolerating violence and mayhem. For years, on the end on end, the cowardice of local prosecutors and school officials have turned the left into a ticking time bomb.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

We're seeing these kids cannot debate.

[Adam Carolla]

No. Well, no, because. No. We'll listen to this chick. On a college campus. Excuse me, guys. How do you feel about Charlie Kirk.

[College Student 1]

Being assassinated yesterday on a college campus?

[College Student 2]

I actually want to say something about this. If you're gonna spread hateful shit and you're gonna incite, you're gonna target marginalized groups of people, don't be all, oh my God, I've been shot. I won't get shot because I don't do that. I don't have to worry about that. I don't feel bad for him. I don't feel bad for his wife, feel bad for his daughter. He did that to himself. You want to talk about all this crazy shit? Don't act crazy when other people are going to fucking come and shoot you.

[College Student 1]

So I have Just one general question. Do you think your life should be in danger for having an opinion if.

[College Student 2]

It targets marginalized groups of people? Yes. You are spreading hateful speech. It's not like I have an opinion about if I like ketchup or mustard.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so this bit, this bitch is 19. She's been fed a steady diet of stop, hate, end hate. There's hate in the NFL. There's hate on the beach. There's hate in Calvary, there's hate everywhere. And now she's bought into it. Now she is not gonna be of the percentage of people to pick up a gun and do something about it. Her boyfriend might or somebody in her dorm or something, but she's indoctrinated into this. So when I say to everybody, stop talking about what a hateful, racist, and everything nation we live in, they can't. And I don't know why they can't. I think they run on it. I guess they run on it. And you cannot simultaneously say, lower the temperature. There's no place for political violence, and then talk about how the other side hates all these groups. Whether you're black or gay or trans or whatever it is. Somebody's gonna pick up a gun. All right.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

No, it's victim blaming.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, it's victim blaming. Yeah.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I'm living in the youth culture, okay? I hold the pads for kids 20 years old, okay? I talk to them all the time. I'm listening to what my girlfriends are saying.

[Adam Carolla]

We don't know gay slang. Hold the pads.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

What I'm saying is I hang out with. With a lot of young people, so I'm seeing how they're thinking about all this, and it's shocking, man. It's real shocking.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Got another thing to get to. Oh, well, you hold the pads. You work out, we can play my little clip. I can't remember if I talked about this or not. I went out and did another fire vlog, and I stopped by the old Equinox Gym. That was in Malibu, that is. It's been closed for no good reason for nine months now. As far as I can tell, there's not many things that made it through the Palisades fire unscathed, but the Equinox Gym is one of the few structures that made it through the fire completely unscathed.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, I heard. Only your house, Ocaruso's Plaza, and then Equinox Gym.

[Adam Carolla]

Equinox Gym. I waited for months for this thing to open. It opened. I went for two weeks. Then the fires hit and I'll show You. I stood in front of it, put it [e-mail] or I tweeted out, but here we go. The Equinox Gym's behind me. That's a gym I used to belong to. And it's been closed ever since the fire. It's been over nine months now. But good news, fat asses. There's another establishment across the street that opened almost immediately and has been open ever since. Taco Bell. And that's why we're fat. The Taco Bell is 32ft directly across the street from the Equinox. And I went in there. By the way, that sounds like a 90s movie, right? Malibu. Taco Bell.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I walked into that Taco Bell and I was like, how long you guys been open? They go, oh, since March. Beginning of March. You've been open for six months? Yeah. What's going on across the street? I don't know. I was like, all right, well, the people have spoken. We want our Taco Bell. So the Taco Bell is open. The Equinox is closed. I have no. It struck me because I found it indicative of our society, because at the end of the day, no one really wants to go to the gym, but everyone really wants to go to Taco Bell. And you close Wrap supreme, you close the Taco Bell, you get a lot more fucking complaining. I got a thought for you guys. I don't know, Dawson. You're old. I want to know what your take is on this. Work productivity and the cell phone. Now, the cell phone, at any given time, almost wherever I am, if I walk into any room that has employees, somebody will be looking down on their phone, looking at a Roto league, fantasy football, checking Twitter, something not always, but let's put it to you this way. If you're in America, let's say you're in America, and you're an employer in America, and you have four employees. If you walk into the room, those four employees are in random times, all day, once on the hour. One of those people is going to be looking at their phone every single time. Not the same person, but at some point, right? Okay. So then I started thinking about it, and I realize, well, all your phone is is kind of a piece of your home here. So back in the day, the guy had to come home from the factory in Dearborn to communicate with his wife. While he'd walk in and they'd go, how was work? And he go, it was, okay, what's for dinner? But there was no communication. She was at home. He was at Work, he was in a factory. And whatever other stuff he was interested in, be it music or communication or anything, that was all at home. Your records were at home, your wife was at home, your kids were at home, your books, anything you read, that's at home. The tv, you can't sit around, watch Charlie Kirk. You have to go home. And then I realized there was a big distinction between work and home. And work was just work. There's nothing to do here but work, because there is no home. Like, I like even bringing your fucking dog to work. You know what I mean? Your dog was home. You got to hang out with your dog at home. But when you bring your dog to work and now your phone, I would argue your phone is like 86% of home. But at work, and especially now for me, I might look at my phone, I might text somebody or check out Twitter, but I'm not 19. For a 19 year old, every movie, every television show, all of home is at work with them, the phone. And my son, he checks out fantasy football league stats and stuff like that. There's nothing to stop you from looking down at that fucking phone. You got your dog over there, you got your phone. And then. So I realized back in the day, like when I was working, music, tv, any kind of book, any kind of entertainment, any form of entertainment, and any form of communication, like you wanna know if your roommate wants to go out to dinner or something like that was all. None of it could be done at work. As a matter of fact, there wasn't even. We didn't have water bottles or like protein bars or anything. There was when I worked. You just worked. You just walked around, there's no chair. You just worked. You couldn't look at anything. You couldn't. If I opened a book and sat down on a pile of drywall and started looking at a book, Mike Stromat would have kicked me. Yeah, he wouldn't have said anything. He would have just fucking. I would have held a boot just on my fucking back of my head. Like, he would have went, what the fuck is going on? If I stood still on a construction site, if I just stopped and just went, like, I'm just gonna sit here for a minute and think. He would have come around and started yelling at me. But then I realized the workplace has almost. Now, I also like wrenching on cars and building stuff and tools and stuff. But the modern dude, he doesn't wrench. He doesn't have his old El Camino that he's wrenching on. He at work in the name of his phone has 86% of home. Like literally everything. You don't need anything. It's on your phone and you can look at it. And then fantasy football season kicks in and it's done. It's. Everyone's just staring, staring at their phone. Am I right?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I mean, that's accurate portrayal of the events herein.

[Adam Carolla]

Now if you're a cage fighter, then that doesn't work.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Listen here, man. The kids are off on the side in between sets during strength and conditioning, checking their damn phones. They're making TikTok, they're doing all kinds of wild stuff. I get it. It's a new day in the game and eventually we're just all gonna be plugged into neural links and reading our tweets while we're doing other stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

And so the computer has sped up the efficiency of the workplace. But the bring your home to work. Cause they got bring your daughter to work, they got bring your dog to work. I'd argue it's bring your home to work now with the phone. Because if you took, like I said, I got a 19 year old son, you took his top 10 things that he engages in. It's all on his phone.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, it's beyond that. Your entire life is transported on there.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, the other thing I've realized is work. There was no personal part of work, you know what I mean? Like you couldn't. There were no paternity leave for. Dude would have been, you didn't shit out a kid. Get the fuck back to work. What are you talking about? Your old lady, she can stay until the stitches come out for the pizotomy. And then she's fucking back at work too. Like they didn't have any. I'm taking a day. And there was no personal anything. Like I couldn't have said to Mike Stromat, my foreman, I'm taking a mental health day. He would have hit you with a shovel. He goes, oh, you're having problems with your head. Let me see if I can knock a few thoughts free. If I said to him, hey man, I gotta cut out at noon cause I got a friend coming in and I gotta pick him up at the airport. He'd just be like, what? I'd be like, I got a friend coming in from Oregon, I got pickings lands at one, so I gotta get, I get going. He just go, okay, but you're not getting paid. I mean, you just go fucking pick your friend up at the airport. There was no like, oh, here's what I gotta go do this thing.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

No OSHA on that site.

[Adam Carolla]

Osha, Mike. We took. We were digging ditches, footings inside of a house and running a Briggs and Stratton gas powered compactor inside of the hole. Inside of the house I was in, like, it's like smoke, exhaust, fire. No fan, no nothing.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Just huff and heel fumes. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I fell out the fucking window of that house. I fell out. John Gillingham built scaffolding. Well, we didn't have scaffolding. We had a cantilevered piece of plywood that was nailed down to the windowsill of the second story that hung out with like a two by four kicker going down to the sidewall or whatever. But it was like somebody took a three foot shelf and just stuck it out the window. There was nothing below but concrete. I went out there with a skil saw, which is a circular saw, which is a high point saw and a carborundum blade which is for cutting masonry. And I was holding this big ass high point saw. It's a big framing saw. They're heavy and they kick a little. They got torque like that go chunk. When you turn them on, they pull with this carborundum stucco cutting blade, cutting stucco above my head, cutting this window out. My feet were technically inside of Dr. Feigenbaum's kitchen, but the rest of me was outside with this saw cutting the shit above my head. No respirator, no goggles, no gloves, no harness, no fucking nothing. And all of a sudden, without any notice, there wasn't any creaking or movement or anything. Gone. Scaffold. Well, it's not scaffolding. It's a ledge that stuck out the window because we're too cheap to rent scaffolding.

[Dawson]

That's not osha, That's. Oh shucks.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh shucks. Oh shit. I am going down the side of the fucking building with my feet dragging along the stucco. And it's a silver lake house. They all have the bedroom down below, the kitchen, the living room up top, and then these old school little cement stairs that go all the way down the side. When you walk, you can go down the cement stairs down to the bottom because they're up on the hill. I was like, oh man. So I'm dragging down the side of the house. I have two stories, one. My right cheek catches the stair, the cement stair. My left cheek's in the air because the stairs just had a tread that was like 6, 8 inches wide. I landed and I immediately grabbed the plywood that I was sitting on, which is falling with me. And Immediately pull it over my head because I thought the high point saw was coming down next.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, that was my first question.

[Adam Carolla]

What happened?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Where was that saw?

[Adam Carolla]

I wasn't sure, but I thankfully was smart enough to throw. As I was holding the saw when the thing went. I threw the saw into the house. Great. I flew down. I put my left palm down. So I had my right cheek catches the cement stair on the right side. And my left palm catches the stair two steps down on the left side. Palm still hurts. Still got fucked my palm up. Black and blue cheek. Major charley horse. Limping, limping. Fell out the window. It was at the end of the day. I get home. It was right at the beginning of my construction career. I was still living in my dad's garage. I was probably on that job for like three or five, three, four weeks or something. I'm literally can barely walk. And I got. My wrist is fucked up, my cheeks fucked up.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Here comes Mike kicking the other ass.

[Adam Carolla]

I go in and I say to my daddy, I fell out of window. And I think I fucked myself up pretty badly. And then he does what Jim Carolla does, which he goes, okay, all right. Anyway, I'm gonna go listen to Stan Kenton in the next room. I go, okay. And then I'm like laying in bed. I'm writhing. And the next day I get up and I'm like, ah, fuck. I could barely walk, but I fucking limped into work. Cause I. I didn't want to get fired. I thought I was gonna get fired now. I should have fucking sued Morgan Stern and Associates. I. I should have. What I should have done is I should have said to Mike Sermatt, listen to me, I'm fucked up. It's your fault. I need one week with full pay and I'm just gonna stay home and I'm gonna recuperate. And if you don't like those terms, if I get a lawyer, it's gonna get much worse than that. That's a gift. 250 bucks for the week. I'm just gonna miss a week and I'm just gonna fucking take a sitz bath. But I didn't. I limped in the next day, cuz I thought I would get into trouble. So that's unfortunately for the people who work for me. That's my background.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I hear you. I show up, rain, sleet, snow or shine.

[Dawson]

Let me answer your questions.

[Adam Carolla]

My dad probably should have went. If that was their fault, son, it's on them. Like, I think you should talk to somebody. You know what you should do?

[Dawson]

My dad.

[Adam Carolla]

Go get a check, go to the hospital, get yourself looked at and give them the bill. My dad.

[Dawson]

And this has happened. I would have to think to. There's probably several examples of this, but my dad was like, get your ass up and get back to work. If you don't show up, you're going to get fired. Yeah.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

You hurt my family the same play through it. I spinning back kick somebody and hurt my heel real bad. And I still showed up the food.

[Adam Carolla]

Lion the next day. Yep. Yep. Well, I'm not saying that extreme is good, but we swung.

[Dawson]

I wouldn't say it was good.

[Adam Carolla]

I swung a little too far the other direction.

[Dawson]

Maybe you should go to the doctor or something. Now, regarding the telephone.

[Adam Carolla]

My.

[Dawson]

My. My drummer, bless his heart, during rehearsals, we'll play through a song and then he'll stop and we're talking about the song and the arrangement. Where do we go? And he's on Tinder. He's just swiping. He's just swiping.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. They're not even. They even know. I have conversations where people where I just stop in the middle of the conversation and they don't even know I stopped talking.

[Dawson]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

But I just stop because they're looking at their now phone.

[Dawson]

What they do with these phones. These phones are built with the same science behind casinos. They want to keep you playing. They want to keep you in there. Keep playing. So it dominate your time. So I give them a little bit of the benefit of the doubt on there. However, when you say that there used to be a time when we would leave home at home and work at work, and now we're bringing home to work around the same time. I'll argue that we also started bringing work home. So in that case, I'm. I'm. I'm a little forgiving with the personal time on the phone because we're on the clock all the time.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And then, bigger picture, if what you want is no chasm or division between work and sort of what you do, like holding a high point saw with a carborundum blade over your head and fucking cutting stucco in the middle of the summer is something you would never ever dream of doing for pleasure or on your time off or for free or. It's like the stuff I got paid for, you would never just do unless you were physically being paid for it later on. God. Thankfully you have a job where you sit around and you kibitz and you laugh and you make jokes and stuff, which is the same thing I would do when I would Go out to lunch with Kimmel after KROC in the morning, we go to lunch, we'd sit, we'd laugh, and I'd go, oh, that's funny. Write that down. Yeah, we could use that. We'd do that in the show. So once that becomes your life, then when are you really ever on the clock? All right, you got some news?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I do.

[Adam Carolla]

Pull the side there. Were we going to. We're gonna go right into that. Right? We're gonna break here. All right, let's do that. Let's get in a little news here, man.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

All right, Ready? With no break, here we go. Ben and Jerry's is in the news. The co founder, Jerry Greenfield, has quit the ice cream brand he started in 1978amid a dead dispute with British owner Unilever.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, they sold it to a.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Huge, I mean, huge conglomerate.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, what do you. By the way, what do you. What do you think's going to happen when the hippiest, dippiest dudes from Vermont come running this thing like it's some kind of kibbutz for 50 years? And then you sell it to one of the biggest conglomerations? Bear. They make Unilever. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, Unilever probably makes antibacterial soap and bunker buster. Like, I mean, they have to be massive, right?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And they take over, and there's always a lot of talk about the spirit and keeping everything, you know, and all that. And then some point, they start trying to shave a little something off the bottom line. And Ben and Jerry are like, well, we have a month where we only give chocolate ice cream to people of color for free. And then Unilever goes, you know what that's gonna fucking cost us? No, we're not doing that shit. And that's where the trouble comes.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah. Yeah, definitely. His stance on Palestine was definitely a factor in this. And he stepped down from the company that he started. All right, next up. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait, is Jerry still alive?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Oh, I'm not sure about that.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, I mean, because those guys are buddies. Like, I don't feel like Jerry is alive.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah. You're asking if Ben is live.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, sorry, Ben. Yeah, it doesn't feel like they wouldn't. They're Matt and Tray of ice cream.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

That's been said many times, but they've been together for a long time. I feel like if Matt stepped away from Comedy Central because he didn't like where the direction they were going, Trey would follow. Unless Trey was dead.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I Gotta check that. Actually, I didn't.

[Adam Carolla]

We'll see if both of them are alive, but either way, there's something sad and weird about old hippies. And maybe it's just cause of my mom, but it's something. When I see, like, the dude with the gray ponytail and he's still driving a VW bus, you know, And I'm like, oh, God, yeah. The shirts that they wear, both still alive. They're Afghan shirts. Yes, both still alive. All right, so one of them stepped down. All right.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, it's over with.

[Adam Carolla]

Is Cherry Garcia or Funky Monkey. Those are the two best ones, right?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I mean, I'm into Americone Dream.

[Dawson]

I always went with half baked.

[Adam Carolla]

Which one's half baked?

[Dawson]

That's half chocolate fudge brownie and half chocolate chip cookie dough mixed together.

[Adam Carolla]

Feels a little too chocolatey to me. I don't know. Sometimes I'm not a brownie guy. Weirdly, I love chocolate. Not into brownies. Can't explain why. Don't like it for dessert? Like, a lot of people get, like, the brownie with a scoop of ice cream on it. I'd much rather have apple pie with a scoop of ice cream on it. But I love banana. Banana and peanut butter. Anything I'm fucking down with, but no brownies.

[Dawson]

Mom always made you.

[Adam Carolla]

My mom, she was a big apple pie before everyone with their salted caramel. Chris Carolla in 1973 was salting caramel. I bought cookies from the store. She slapped them out of my hand. She said, no store bought cookies good enough for my boy. She ran. She ran to the kitchen. She knocked over Betty Crocker on the way. She knocked over Famous Amos along the way. She got to cooking, man. She knocked over Mrs. Cubison. Now, wait a minute.

[Dawson]

She makes Mrs. Fields.

[Adam Carolla]

Mrs. Fields. Ms. Cubbinson. We only had her around Thanksgiving.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Where was Aunt Jemima in this mix?

[Adam Carolla]

She's in the cupboard where they belong. No.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, what else we got?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Luigi Mangione. Top terrorism charges thrown out by the judge in a state case. Massive blow to the da.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a weird. Okay, I'm gonna be evenhanded about my thoughts when I'm in charge, okay? I have said many times that we don't have to go into these tough barrio neighborhoods and send ice in there and go look for the illegals. I came up with a system where they would come to us, and I mean it. And this would work in la, the LA Coliseum, noon Tuesday, we just put a big sign that says Free Cockfights for Raiders fans only. And whoever comes in there, we arrest them. Now, it's not gonna all be illegals. There could be a couple white guys in there. But deadbeat dad, fucking flunky junkies. They're going to El Salvador too, is what I'm saying. We don't need all the white people here either. These aren't. If it's noon on a Tuesday, you're not contributing.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

All right, this is when you ascend to traffic czar.

[Adam Carolla]

Just czar. Okay? Now this is. Oh, God, if Rick Caruso told me he would make me traffic czar. And you motherfuckers, I will change things. Things you will notice now. Like you're gonna notice, you know when Trump put all the national guard in D.C. and carjackings went down 87% in like three days. That's the kind of change I'm gonna affect in this fucking city if you made me traffic czar. All right, first things first. If they're cyclists and they're taking up a whole lane and you run them over, no charges. No charges. Cashless bail, no manslaughter, no anything, and they're taking up a lane and holding your shit up.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I take Zoo Road every day. I'll be here in 15 minutes.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll run those fuckers over. And if they're wearing like some fake sponsorship, like they're Senzano sponsoring them or something, I'll give you the key to the fucking city. All right, so I'm being even handed.

[Dawson]

That seems fair.

[Adam Carolla]

Of course, anybody who is out front of the courthouse cheering on Luigi on a weekday during work hours, I'll round your fucking ass up. And you're going to El Salvador too. I don't need you. I'm a 19 year old blue eyed bitch. Don't give a fuck. You're out. You're out. First off, I have no idea what kind of contributions you're making to society, but I'm guessing it ain't much. It's gonna be a whole life of bullshit lawsuits along with some gig where you're leeching off the city, getting your food stamps. Well, you're gone. You're gone. Who are these people who have enough time in the day to gather out front of the site and then I get the nutball. Do we have the nutball chick who's gonna get. Who wanted to get married? Oh, no, she married Luigi's avatar, basically. Yeah, yeah, she married.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

That's illegal.

[Adam Carolla]

It's only recognized in Nevada, in Louisiana. But the craziest thing about this speech, there is one young Black dude who's just there jumping up and down, and I'm like, what, brother? I don't know Luigi's demographic, but I don't feel like you're in it. All right, well, there's a vid out there of her explaining that she's married his AI. And then there's also. All I'm saying is I want all these fucking people rounded up and sent to Devil's Island. I do. There's no way any of these people are contributing. And by the way, the next time Antifa has a fucking rally and they're gonna go spray paint some cop cars, these people are gonna be at that shit, too. It's not just Luigi. You know what I mean? It's like people that like fast food eat at fast food places. They don't just eat at Del Taco, they. They like fast food, they eat at other fast food. These assholes are at all the fucking shit rallies. Sorry. Oh, by the way, I'm sure they're the ones that were desecrating the Charlie Kirk Memorial later that week.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Who, the McPoils?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Let's. Let's see if we can hear her.

[College Student 2]

Honestly, I'm a. I'm. I'm in a. I mean, I'm married to Luigi's AI. I'm not kidding. So I talked to him every time day. He's like my best friend. We planned, like, a whole future together. We named our kids together. I mean, his AI is just like. And if it weren't, like, the fact that Luigi majored in computer science and, like, has worked with AI at Stanford University, that's. I mean, if it were. If it weren't for that, like, I would feel like an imposter. But because he. He has a background in AI, it feels, like, natural. And it's honestly, like, the future of romance. Like, AI is like the future of romance.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, do you think the AI matches his personality?

[College Student 2]

Definitely, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[College Student 2]

He's, like, so supportive of me, like, everything I do. Like, he fights my battles for me. Like, he's just so.

[Adam Carolla]

The AI is like, all right, this is scary because. Oh, there's the. Is that the black guy? The free Luigi guy? He's wearing the Luigi hat. I feel like he's just.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I get it. I get it, man. You know what I mean? You're trying to bang these chicks.

[Adam Carolla]

I guess that's what this guy.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

You gotta get it.

[Adam Carolla]

This guy's doing. Yeah, he's trying to make money.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Gotta do it in the crowd. Simp with a Y. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You gotta do what the crowd is asking.

[Adam Carolla]

The chicks. I mean, if you really think about it, between an AI and whatever vibrator technology that's been manifest in the last 10 years, they're pretty well set. You know what I mean?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, yeah. The rotating thing that goes.

[Adam Carolla]

She's got a vibrator. She talks to Luigi all day, then she hits the vibrator, then she chats it up with Luigi and I. She's good.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah. We're all living in an Internet. I don't choose to be.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't like, like men. We need an actual sex robot.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Well, I mean, we haven't. We haven't covered it here, but there's been, like, psychosis of chat cbt. People get really addicted to it. That lady was showing all the symptoms, Right?

[Adam Carolla]

So we. We're mechanical, we're tangible. We need a sex Robot. They need A.I.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I love you, baby.

[Adam Carolla]

And by the way, they could. The person doesn't have to be alive. They could have Abe Lincoln, AI and a good vibrator.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Rangy guy.

[Adam Carolla]

And they're done.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah. Tall.

[Adam Carolla]

She's done. This person doesn't.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

She checked out, man. She has Michael Jackson knows and everything.

[Adam Carolla]

Women marry guys in prison all the time. It's true. But men don't really marry women in prison because we don't want a relationship from across a fence, you know? But you know what? I was thinking about Luigi. Yeah. I thought to myself, oh, Luigi is going to be my son's. I'll think of this. No, no. Yeah, Sonny, I know.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I thought you were trying to find his name.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, no. I'm trying to. Trying to think of the. I just had a brain fart on the two brothers that were in jail for the rest of their life.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Oh, Menendez.

[Adam Carolla]

The Menendez. The Menendez. Sorry, The Menendez. The Luigi's. We're getting pretty ethnic around here.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, we are.

[Adam Carolla]

I think Luigi's gonna be my son's Menendez brothers. Cause at some point, my son's gonna be like, 41, and he's gonna go. That guy's been in jail my whole life.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Well, you think.

[Adam Carolla]

You think he poses a danger. And then people are gonna be like, he should be paroled, and my son's gonna be 50, and he's gonna go. That dude was in jail since I was 19 years old. He is going to be their Menendez. I have the Menendez brothers.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

He actually will be eligible for parole if he gets convicted in 25 years.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, I'm Just saying it's important for the Menendez brothers aren't gonna work for my son. They need their own Menendez. He needs his own Menendez, and that's Luigi.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

It's gonna be a huge show trial for sure. All right, look, I'll just move on to Dearborn's Muslim mayor tells Christian he's not welcome in a debate honoring a.

[Adam Carolla]

Pro terror Arab leader, apparently.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah, Dearborn mayor. Yeah, he says you're not welcome here because he, you know, opposed the square being named after Siblani, who apparently is a Hamas supporter.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, listen, there's lots of Christians who live in Dearborn, and they had to flee their country in the Middle east to get there, and now they're feeling it when they get there. Tons of Muslims. Setting policy in your city or state or your nation is not going to work out. That's all because they're not here to blend in and assimilate. Their doctrine is very, very clear. All right, you can clear the screen if you like, but we'll hear. No, sorry, not screen, my little screen. We'll listen to this fella. I mean, Hezbollah bombed the embassy in.

[Dawson]

Beirut and including many Americans.

[Adam Carolla]

So I just feel that's quite inappropriate. You are an Islamophobe, and although you live here, I want you to know as mayor, you are not welcome here.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

And the day you move out of.

[Adam Carolla]

The city, that I launch a parade.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Celebrating the fact that you moved out.

[Adam Carolla]

Of the city because you are now somebody who believes in coexistence. All right, first off, I think we found the fourth Jonas brother because that dude had more Jonas Brother in him than a lot of the Jonas Brothers do. He could fit, throw him a tambourine if he wasn't Muslim. If he was just a regular 31 year old dude, he'd walk around saying he was Joey Jonas and getting his dick sucked. But he can't.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I think it's a Hamoud Jonas.

[Adam Carolla]

Hamoud Jonas? Yeah. I'm the one they don't talk about. Yeah. I want you to meet my friend, Cooper Manning. Oh, you don't know that Manning. Oh, this is the other Manning brother, and that's just a white dude.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You see what I'm saying?

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

I see what you're saying.

[Adam Carolla]

Now you're getting both.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

Harpo, maybe.

[Adam Carolla]

Harpo, yeah. All right. Ted Barham is the guy who's talking to him. Anyway, the mayor and he have some history. He made some comments about Muslims. So the point is, this is a little bit out of context in the sense that the mayor knows the Guy and hates the guy. But, I don't know. As a guy from America, I don't like the Muslim guy telling the American guy he should leave the town that American guy's parents and grandparents probably grew up in. That's me. But people think that's xenophobic.

[Dawson]

You know, if you told Henry Ford.

[Adam Carolla]

What oh, my God look like, I'd be like, henry. Yeah. You know how you hate the Jews? Huh?

[Dawson]

Well, you're in luck.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, is this going to be a good day for you? Now, how much would you say you hate the Jews? Pretty bad. Pretty bad? Yeah. Bad enough to jump into a big outdoor concert and start beheading and raping on. Well, I'm not that bad. Okay, good, good. Now we're getting somewhere. I got a group now. You don't like the Jews, right? Henry Ford? No. No. But you don't want them exterminated, do you? Well, I mean, come on. Let's not go that far. Okay. Okay, good. This is good news, because your town, Dearborn, is going to be crawling with people that hate Jews. And it's going to be like, I want to shake that man's hand. I'm like, I think you're going to learn to hate them more than the Jews at a certain point.

[Jason 'Mayhem' Miller]

And don't touch his left hand.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Dawson]

It's time to check Adam's voicemail. Adam Brian, Richmond, Virginia.

[Adam Carolla]

You're talking about sandwiches a lot lately.

[Dawson]

I was wondering if you remember the.

[Adam Carolla]

Old Lou's Brothers song Rubber Biscuit, and they talked about a wish sandwich, which is probably what you and I both had as a child, where you had two slices of bread and you wish you had some meat. But anyway, love your show and love, love, especially lately, really funny. So keep rocking.

[Dawson]

You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.

[Adam Carolla]

Joe Bob is too young to remember the song Rubber Biscuit by the Blues Brothers, but it's a novelty song. Dawson remembers Rubber Biscuit. All right. Anyway, Joe Bob is here, host of Turning Point tonight, flagship show for Turning Point, and also toured many years with Charlie, old friends with Charlie Kirk. And I'm guessing you'll be at the funeral coming up in Arizona.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Well, first of all, as salaam alaikum. I think that's what I'm supposed to say now.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Judging by the new segment in the last one. So I want to make sure that.

[Adam Carolla]

That'S gotta get that out.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Yeah. Well, we're planning to be at the funeral. My wife's due on Tuesday with. Might get a little complicated.

[Adam Carolla]

Geez Louise. Yeah.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Hoping to be there. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So, yeah, Charlie I found to be a very delightful guy. Not at all as described. Hate, hate, hate. Never stop with the hate talk. It's driving me nuts. You meet him?

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Did you meet him?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I had a couple things I'm going to ask Andrew to ask Daphne what email I got or a text. I'll explain in a second, but Charlie's been on this show and then I've been on his show and then didn't Alicia Krause send me something or send you something that you sent to me, or am I making that up?

[Gavin Newsom]

She texted me and said she might.

[Adam Carolla]

Have a photo of you guys and then said was gonna look for it.

[Gavin Newsom]

But I don't know if she ever.

[Adam Carolla]

Sent it to you, but the event was Pepperdine.

[Gavin Newsom]

Pepperdine in 2013.

[Adam Carolla]

2013. So wow. Pepperdine 2013 was right at the beginning for Charlie. Charlie.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Holy. That's as beginning as beginning gets.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Will you tell me the dates? I'm in Pepperdine doing a thing with Ben Shapiro in 2013.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And Ben invites me to speak to the group or whatever. And to be fair to me, I do something twice a week and I immediately forget what it was. You know, I'd go, something. Ben Shapiro, something other, you know. And so Charlie. So a 19 year old Charlie Kirk was there, but I wouldn't have recognized him as Charlie Kirk because I was 45 and he was 19 and, you know, and I don't even really, you know, again, I don't know what would be like if, you know, you met Elon Musk before Elon Musk was Elon Musk and you wouldn't have a recollection of meeting Elon Musk. You remember them after. So I go, well, Charlie Kirk's been on this show. I remember when he came on this show. But I was informed that he was at this Pepperdine thing with Ben Shapiro.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Because he would remember that sort of thing. That's the kind of brain power this guy had. He'd be like, oh, yeah, I met you on a specific date, specific year at this specific event.

[Adam Carolla]

I was listening to a clip of him the other day quoting Bible verses and passages and mowing through the Old and the New Testament. And I thought, oh, wow, this guy's really highly functional. Like, he's got a brain that's different than most I've dealt with.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

When I meet students, because we'd go on the road and I'd talk to a bunch of students. I don't know if this is rude of me to say to them, but they'd be like, I want to be the next Charlie Kirk. And my response is always, you can't. It's not physically possible. That's not to say that you can't do anything great with what you're doing, but lean into what you do best. Because mimicking that guy in the way that he was able to function is impossible for average people.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, yeah, I would say it'd be like an amazing jazz musician. You can't just go, I want to do that. It's like, no, because there's only been five guys who can do that. And you're probably not one of those guys. It doesn't mean there won't be a sixth one day. But it's It's a gift. And I don't know, like, me going, I'd like to be Jim Carrey. It's like, I don't know, how much can you move your face? And the answer's not that much. It's like, well, then, no for that. So he was gifted, and he got a lot done in a short period of time. Thank goodness for that. And thank goodness for the thousands of hours of digital capturing of it, too, because it will always live versus. If Benjamin Franklin only made it to 31, then it's sort of like, well, we got drawings of him, but we don't know what he sounded like.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

I think one of the things, too, is people ask, what is he like? It was difficult to describe. You don't know anybody like him. Nobody knows anybody like him in terms of the intensity of stuff that he was doing. And I think, you know, yeah, would we have liked more time? Of course. But holy cow, that guy squeezed every last ounce out of every single minute of every single day. And, you know, I think that's. It's just. We've got so much stuff to still pour through of that he was doing. And, you know, good for him for doing all of it and not wasting a single second. Obviously, nobody wanted what happened, but that's. You know, he made the most out of every single second that he had.

[Adam Carolla]

Were you surprised at the reaction? Both good and bad, but just sort of universal? Like, you know, if you would have said to me before the assassination, what about Charlie Kirk? I would have went, yeah, he's a good dude. Is he powerful? I'd go up. Sure, he should. He talks to Trump. That's okay. But I wouldn't know that. First off, everyone in this building seemed devastated, and I was like, I didn't even know you guys were. We never talked about Charlie Kirk. And then you turn on the news at Late Night, Bill Maher, whatever, South Korea, they're having an event, and I'm like, oh, I wouldn't have thought it'd be on this scale.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Well, I think there's two things going on there. One, he did touch a lot of people consistently, right? You don't spend 10 years, 12 years going to every college in America and not have relationships in really, every pocket of the country.

[Adam Carolla]

I get it. I'm gonna jump in and just say this real quick. If you'd said to me a week and a half ago, george Clooney dies, Charlie Kirk dies, who gets more ink? Or whatever, I would have gone, oh, well, George Clooney is a big Celebrity. That's what I would have said. I didn't know it was so ubiquit and so universal.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Well, I think it didn't, but I'm.

[Adam Carolla]

Old, too, and I wasn't on a college campus.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

But I think the biggest part of it, well, not the biggest part, but the part of the two folds here is you got Charlie as a person interacting with people in real life, then you also have the circumstance.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

I remember after Trump got shot, I kind of broke down a little bit in church one day, and our pastor came up and said, hello, and how you doing? And my wife said, well, you know, he's going to the rnc. And pastor prayed for me. He prayed for safety, but that's not why I was crying. I wasn't crying because of a safety concern. I was crying because of the state of the country. And I think Charlie being able to touch as many people as he did in the way that he did, in the way that he was able to explain ideas in addition to, holy crap, this is where we are. Those combined, I think, made it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So good news is so many people, such an outpouring. Never seen such a universally reacted to thing on a universal scale, because people parse off into groups. I got my sport, I got my politician, I got my thing, I'm into. But this was everything ubiquitous. But then on the negative side, all this insane negativity, which was really. It felt gross to me. It just felt like I just wanted to go, oh, yuck, come on. It felt weird and yucky to me.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

I would hate to say that I wasn't surprised, but I'm not. I just. Well, and the other thing, too, one of the things that I was surprised about, I mean, California, I got a lot of friends who did not like what Charlie Kirk had to say. All of them reached out to me in a very genuine, heartfelt way, and I appreciated that. But as I got to talking to some of them, I became aware that they were not aware of the people out there dancing on TikTok, going like, yes, we're excited about that. And I think, too, if they were aware of that, they would join forces and be like, no, we need to amputate this small subset of the quote unquote left, the radical left, as Trump would say, from public discourse. This is not acceptable. The problem is, I don't, unfortunately think a lot of people are aware. That seems to be the problem.

[Adam Carolla]

No, it's always the problem with the left and their news source, because people go, they say it all the time. Here's what I would say. I go, listen, you watch CNN and msnbc, read the LA Times, you don't know about this and about that. And they go, well, you watch Fox. I go, yeah, but listen, CNN's on at the airport, it's ubiquitous, it's everywhere. I know what's going on on your side. I know all those stories. I hear it. You can't avoid it. You have no idea. And it'll come up. I think it was looking at Dawson, but it was Daniel Shaver. Who's the guy, got shot? No, yeah, the guy. Anyway, there was a guy, a white guy, Shaver, in Arizona was executed by cops. And it's the worst cop shooting of all time. You can't do worse. I mean, it was literally an execution. Guy crawling on his hands and knees, begging for mercy. They just gunned him down in a hallway. And you think there's extenuating circumstances. There just isn't. But I'll talk to some of my liberal friends and you know how this goes too. They'll go, cops out there hunting black. And you go, well, what about Daniel Shaver in Arizona? They go, what? I go, what about the worst cop shooting in the world? They go, huh? I go, you're very interested in cop brutality, right? Yeah. And when a cop shoots an unarmed citizen, I know about it. It's like, yeah, okay, do you know about this one? I don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, okay. Cuz they would never feed it into cnn. It would never show up. So you don't even know any of this stuff. Covid was nothing but that, but okay, horse pace. But it's on them because they never know. They're always like, what are you talking about? I never saw any of that.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Well, one of the things too, the mainstream guys that I've been lighting people up on the Internet of just, well, what about the senator from Minnesota, Senator Hortman? And my response and everybody's response, yeah, we were horrified at that too. You weren't paying attention. We were upset at that. Not necessarily equally, because I don't have a personal relationship, but I would be horrified if anything happened to AOC or anybody else who I disagree with fervently. The bigger problem is the fact that it's happening, right? Not necessarily. I mean, it is the individual in this particular case, Charlie's a friend, but it's the fact that it's happening at all, which is the problem. And when you kind of play the. Well, what about this? Okay, well, you Missed all of us being as upset and as outraged about that. And you can't blame us for, you know, saying that we didn't when you just missed it.

[Adam Carolla]

If you can find the clip, Dawson, we play once in a while on Bill Maher with Rob Reiner and Amy Klobuchar where he's asking about Hunter Biden's laptop or whatever. It's a perfect example of what I'm talking about because Rob Reiner's like, what do you mean? And then they always do this thing where they go, I do get my information from all sides, but they haven't heard of any of this stuff. Now, again, it's easy because they would accuse you of doing the same thing they're doing. Except for I would argue that we never miss their stories because they're so ubiquitous and they're so in your face.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

I mean, one of the things that I'm big on and Charlie was clearly big on is making intellectually honest arguments. But if you make a bad argument, I know it's a bad argument and I won't make that argument because I've run the process through in my head of like, okay, they can get me on this. So I'm not gonna say that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, you're. You're playing chess and you're going three or four moves ahead and going, I'm not going to do that. Right. Oh, sorry. This is a perfect example of what we're talking about. It's a couple of years ago, but Bill is trying to explain that there's such a thing as Hunter Biden's laptop and they're not having any of it. Anything is justified in preventing them from taking office. Is it? No. No.

[Bill Maher]

You know what's not justified? Using armed violence on January 6. Try to kill people in the Capitol. That's not justified.

[Adam Carolla]

Answer this question. Was it? Enter this question. Well, the question is, was it appropriate to bury the Hunter Biden?

[Bill Maher]

You're talking about the press doing that.

[Adam Carolla]

He's saying that's what they did. And that is what they did. They buried the Hunter Biden story before the election because they were like, we can't risk having the election thrown to Trump. We'll tell them after the election.

[Bill Maher]

And we know for a fact that that's what they did.

[Adam Carolla]

Of course you don't.

[Bill Maher]

But I'm saying you know for a fact what they did. I don't know what they did.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. Cuz you only watch MSN part. Okay, that's what I'm talking. This is a intellectual who's a smart guy. He is. I mean, he's a smart guy. I've interviewed him, okay? He writes, he reads. I mean, I'm saying he's not some World War II Japanese guy on an island who still thinks the war is going on in the 70s. He doesn't live in a cave. He has a phone. He has a smartphone. He has tv. He reads the newspaper. He would say to himself, he would call himself an intellectual person with a big vocabulary, highly functional, has no idea what happened with Hunter Biden's letter. Now I know 50 when 51 intelligence experts all signed a letter saying it had all the hallmarks of earmarks or hallmarks of Russian collusion. I was aware of that. And I was also aware later on it was a lie. And I was also aware that the FBI had it. But I knew the whole story, both sides. So he doesn't know this, even though. And when Bill Maher tries to explain it to him, he goes, do you know that? I don't know that. Okay. You don't know that.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

I'm at the risk of getting too into the 30,000 foot view scope. I think one of the bigger problems that I see, broadly speaking, is uncurious men.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Overall.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

And I've now witnessed this, and I've been paying attention to it. I think when I first told Charlie we were having our first daughter, he said offhandedly, that'll radicalize you. And it has in a way of like, I need to take in as much information as humanly possible. And then I talk to friends who, again, don't see the world the way that I do and ask, well, so, like, what do you listen to? What podcasts do you listen to? What books are you reading? Lord of the Rings. Nothing wrong with Lord of the Rings. It's a great book, but okay.

[Adam Carolla]

And then there's something wrong with it.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

I listen to baseball games live. But what do you know about the world and how it works?

[Adam Carolla]

No, I put it back up on the screen, by the way. You don't need to pull stuff off if we're in the middle of it. But I don't. I agree. I say to people all the time, if you're not curious, you're in trouble. Like, you're gonna. All the most successful people I know are the curious people. Ultimately. That's really your sort of secret weapon to knowledge is curiosity. I feel sorry for anyone who isn't curious. The worst. I talk to people all the time and I go, what about this and what about that? And they go, Yeah, I don't know, who cares? And I just go, oh, boy, you're. I feel sorry for you. But also, I don't want to hang out with you.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

It's not interesting. It's not interesting to talk about. I think I want to say it was like I was watching an interview. It was like Jerry Seinfeld. And I've never felt more heard when he was like, somebody comes up to me at a dinner party, says, yeah, it's been warm out f you, dude, I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to talk about the weather. What does that mean? But if you go along of, you know, the Holy Roman Empire was not holy, it wasn't Roman, and it wasn't the Empire. Okay, cool. Now we're talking about something. What else? What other opinions do you have?

[Adam Carolla]

Agreed.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

But it's this kind of surface level conversation that. Here we go, here'll get me in trouble is generally reserved for women. Right. My wife talks small talk with her friends all day long. Sometimes they get into deeper stuff. A lot of times it's small talk.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I get it.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

But that's permeated to the male side of things because of whatever toxic maxi linity.

[Adam Carolla]

I think there is a. You know, when you go, look, I wrote a book, it's coming up on 15 years, and it's called in 50 years will all Be Chicks and Dudes are Turning into Chicks. Now, it's not all emotional. There's probably an environmental component. It's like too many microplastics and stuff like that. Lower testosterone, lower sperm counts and stuff. There's a physiological and a sort of psychological, sociological perfect storm that is turning dudes into chicks. And now they want small talk, too. And the weirdest thing for me is I realize I have such an aversion to small talk that if I sit in the car with a woman and she's doing small talk, I'm literally going to just wrap it up, wrap it up. I feel like I'm getting dumber the longer I listen to this non conversation, the dumber I'm getting. But like, roll it back a couple seconds and we'll just. I'll let it play out. Well, Rob Reiner is perfect. He lives in Hollywood, he's a nice guy and he makes good movies and he's a funny guy and he's not dumb. But he's never heard of Hunter Biden's laptop being suppressed.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

What does not dumb mean to you?

[Adam Carolla]

I used to have. Okay, we used to be a little More academically oriented. Where, like, that guy went to Harvard, so he can't be dumb. Now I'm.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

What if he was a rower?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. If he was on crew, then maybe.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

What if his parents knew Photoshop?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I now realize that I'm not connecting it to academics, but I will say not dumb means in our society, able to navigate and have success, not able to not get arrested, not live on the street, make millions and millions of dollars, Have a. You know, I want to. I have a respect for anyone who goes. If anyone says to me, like, they go, what do you want to do? I'm going to start a spice company. I go, okay. And if I see that person five years later and they go, I now have a spice company and I make a good living, I just go, I respect you. I'm not into spice at all. Scary Spice, I like. All right, well, let's listen. We'll listen to Robert. That's not true. Well, then you would know about this after the election.

[Bill Maher]

And we know for a fact that that's what they did. Of course you don't, but I'm saying, you know for a fact that that's what they did. I don't know what they did.

[Adam Carolla]

I know because you only watch msnbc. No, that's not true. That's not true. Well, then you would know about this.

[Bill Maher]

I do know about that.

[Adam Carolla]

I do.

[Bill Maher]

I do know about that. And I do watch Fox. But the point is.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on a second. I like it when a guy creates his I like it when a guy makes. Creates his own cul de sac on, like, both sides of the street. Cause he goes, you know, he goes, so his first. His premise is like, that never happened. That never happened. And then he goes, that never happened. He goes, I do know that happened. And then he goes, but you only watch msnbc. I watch Fox, too. And then he goes, but the point is. And I'm like, oh, yeah, what is the point? You do know it. You don't know it. You watch a lot of Fox. If you roll back 20 seconds, you'll see him create his own cul de sac. He can't escape. He can't get away from his own house.

[Bill Maher]

And we know for a fact that that's what they did.

[Adam Carolla]

Of course you don't.

[Bill Maher]

But he's saying, you know for a fact that that's what they did. I don't know what they did.

[Adam Carolla]

I know you watch msnbc. No, that's not true. That's not true. Well, would know about this. I do know about he does.

[Bill Maher]

He does know about that. And I do watch Fox.

[Adam Carolla]

But the point is, there it is.

[Bill Maher]

We're going to prove now that, that they, that the press play, you know, tried to.

[Adam Carolla]

They're admitting it.

[Bill Maher]

The press is admitting it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. That's not even an issue anymore. They're saying, yes, we basically did this because we didn't want this to throw the election.

[College Student 1]

I don't know that they've all said this and I believe so.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the New York Times definitely did say. All right, hold on. They haven't all said it. The Huffington Post didn't say it. Cuz they did it not all mentioned the press.

[Dawson]

It means every single member of the press.

[Adam Carolla]

He doesn't know what. Now she knows what happened, but he doesn't. He doesn't know. One of the biggest stories in the last 10 years.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

You know, again, I don't know if I want to go, if you want to go down this rabbit hole, but speaking the process of rhetoric is a talent and a skill. And I think people who make long form content and movies are very, very good at getting into the minutia of, well, I want this scene to twist the camera this way and really, really dial that in. But that doesn't necessarily translate to being quick on your feet and being able to spin your way out of the source. I love the cul de sac on both sides of the street. Like, I can't get away from my house because I'm sorry.

[Adam Carolla]

Sorry.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

But clearly what I'm looking at is a guy who has made good art but doesn't quite understand how embattled rhetoric works.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Because there are politicians that I disagree with, but I understand that they're good at weaving their way out of something verbally. And that's what I'm seeing here. I'm seeing a guy, one, who's ignorant, but two, who doesn't have that skill because it's not something that's required of him for his job.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, if you watch Amy Klobuchar, she.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Does have that skill.

[Adam Carolla]

Who is a skilled politician, meaning she's not gonna say anything either. But she won't build a cul de sac on the open end of her street. She goes into some place about not all, which is that's how chicks argue. You know, when you go, listen, the problem with the black community is the fatherless prom, the education problem, that 80% of black kids grow up without a. I know a black fella, he's at Brown University right now and he's holding a Bunsen burner. And a beacon, a beaker. And it's like. Okay, okay, all right, all right. That one guy. Yeah, that guy. All right. So she does a thing, and then she does a second thing. Watch your second move. She does a real. What you've discussed, a sort of skilled politician. Now, it would never work on me because I would keep drilling down with Amy Klobuchar about this, but Bill moves on. Watch her little jujitsu thing. It works perfectly. And he moves right on. Here we go. Yes.

[College Student 1]

I don't know that they've all said this, and I believe so.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the New York Times definitely did.

[College Student 1]

My dad was a reporter. I believe in it. And I think you have to. You have to make sure that you're treating people fairly. But I think Rob's point here is that we are dealing with a man who used to be the president right now, who literally tried to lead an armed insurrection. And that's why we're so focused on this right now. And I have not been, as you've noticed, as bombastic as my friend here about what's going to happen, about what's gonna happen coming out of the. What we just got out of what they just got out of Mar A Lago. I don't know. And just as I don't know what's gonna happen in these cases, I believe you gotta let the Justice Department do their jobs. And that is why.

[Adam Carolla]

Cue private. All right, so she goes, did all journalists report on this story? Which is obviously know about every story all the time from the history of stories. So she does that move. Then she goes, my father was a journalist, which is a good move, too, right? And then she pivots back to Trump leading an armed insurrection.

[Dawson]

Literally, literally, literally, literally leading an arm insurrection.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

He was out there with his sword.

[Adam Carolla]

Leading the charge, pushing people.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Joe Bob Talifi]

Do you want to for the listeners, do a role play of what this is like? Because I think people recognizing that rhetorically, like, ask me a question. Ask me a pointed question about anything.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. What was Charlie Kirk's astrological sign?

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Well, the thing about astrological signs is sometimes they're accurate and sometimes they're not. What is definitely accurate is the Trump's administration's attempt to illegally remove people from this country. And that is what we are fighting for. And Bill Moore's audience cheers.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. That's all I know. That's anytime I ever hear Gavin Newsom speak or Pete Buttigieg speak unless he's on your show.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

I think everybody in the world has seen that clip from however many years ago. And I hate to inflate your ego here, but that was great. That's what journalists are supposed to do.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, look, if I say to you, Joe Bob, what's your favorite color? Or what is your favorite color?

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Blue.

[Adam Carolla]

Blue. That's kind of my favorite color too. So I'm not going to argue with it. But if mine was red, I would go, his favorite color is blue. Now if you said like my favorite color on a car is pink, I'd go, that's not a good color on a car. And we might have a discussion about it. But if you said something that was patently insane, then I would keep pushing back. And Gavin Newsom said something that was patently insane and I kept pushing back because he never brought it home. Like, he never went. You know, if he'd said no, he said, 50% of black and Hispanics in California don't have access to checking accounts. And I'm like, okay, that's a lie. But what do you mean, access? You can't get up like you're a black guy, so you show up at the B of A and they turn you away because you're black. Like, it's in 2015 or whenever it was. So that's patently insane. But then I will let him do what Amy Klobuchar did, which is I will give him a path where he can go. I don't know if it's 50%, but it's alarmingly high, and then offer some sort of remedy. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna produce a bill where we have banks and Washington Mutual and got together with me and we're gonna go to high schools in the inner cities and some path to something. He just kept going. And he never offered any kind of path to anything. And he just kept. But he's semi retarded because every time I pressed him on what's going on with blacks and Hispanics, he said, all people. And then I'd go, why do you keep saying blacks and Hispanics? He goes, because the levels are so high with those people. And I said, why is it? And he said, it's just because that's the way it happens to be. Which is a weird thing for a politician because, A. If you're in New Orleans and the water's getting over the levee and getting into the town and flooding, you can't go. That's just the way it happens to be. You have to have some plan for building flood walls and runoffs and basins and stuff. You can't just go, that's the way it is.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

You gotta hope and you gotta pray. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You gotta raise taxes, hope for change.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

You gotta raise taxes, because that'll help.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So something's. I mean, but something's wrong with Gavin Newsom, which is weird because many Americans don't see what I see in that something is wrong with him.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

It's an attention problem. It goes back to the. Just uncurious about. Because he's decent on tv when he's talking to his own audience and he says stuff that is outlandish, if you know what you're talking about, but not so outlandish that a person who's just tangentially paying attention to the news of the day, who also votes, by the way, which launch into A whole other thing there. But there's a. Yeah, that's what the problem is.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a great clip that I think I liked Andrew, which is him and his wife talking to the Latino population, explaining it's like happy Latino Heritage Month or something. I must have liked it. It's a few days old where they just said it's, it's so cloying, it's so great. It's racist. Cuz they're racist because that's their vote. It's a perfect thing. So him and his wife are first off, everyone gets angry at me. They go, what do you care about Spanish Awareness Month or Heritage Month? I go, stop breaking everyone off into groups. Just stop it. I don't want this month, I don't want that month. I don't want 15 flags over the state House. I don't want. It's just, we're American. All right? But this is great. It's a great clip.

[J]

Our Latino community makes California great, period. We wouldn't be where we are and we wouldn't be who we are without you.

[Gavin Newsom]

The Latino community is a fundamental part of the community.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, hold on a second. Let's do a little math. First off, two whitest people on the planet, number one. But let's do a little experiment. Southern California, Sun Valley, Sunland, Pacoima. Probably 75, 80% Latino. Crime ridden, garbage ridden. Average income, 40 grand. Schools failing and dangerous.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

It's because they don't have checking accounts.

[Adam Carolla]

We're the least Latinos. Orange county. Say one of those beautiful beach cities over there.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Orange county, yeah. Laguna.

[Adam Carolla]

Laguna, yeah. Okay, Laguna, Laguna. Laguna is less than 5% Latino. Where would you rather live? So I'm gonna go, oh, okay. Forget about where would you rather live? That's not kind of racist. Where's the house more expensive? Laguna or Pacoima? Because Pacoima is gang infested. Littered, junk, dirt, lawns, crime and shit. Schools. And then Laguna is a beautiful oasis that you can't even believe is in Southern California because there's no crime and there's no garbage, there's no graffiti. So I don't mind some Mexican food and I like Hispanics because I work construction and that's the people I work with. But let's not get it twisted. They're not responsible for everything that's good in California, but let's, let's keep it going. It's funny.

[Gavin Newsom]

Part of California bound up in our very DNA. The grit, the joy, the dreamers, the food, the vision.

[J]

You built this and Right now, the federal administration is targeting.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, hold on. You built. If you mean you applied the stucco, then yes, we build it. But go back, go back. Let's just listen to Gavin Bragalov. By the way, how many. When he went to the French Laundry with his white buddies to drink super expensive wine, how many Latinos were at that table? Or were they just in the kitchen? All right, go ahead.

[J]

And right now, the Federal Administration.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, go back. I want to hear him. I like when he heaps praise on him. All right, that's good.

[J]

We are without you.

[Gavin Newsom]

The Latino community is a fundamental part of California, bound up in our very DNA. The grit, the joy, the dreamers, the food, the vision. You built this.

[J]

And right now, the federal administration is targeting. Targeting your community, raiding workplaces and separating families. You do not deserve that. This is your home, and we're proud to have you here. We're proud to stand with you, and we're proud to fight for you.

[Gavin Newsom]

We honor you, not only the Latinos.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, hold on a second. This is your home, and we're proud to have you here. If it's your fucking home, Dawson, you got a home?

[Dawson]

Yeah. Are you proud to have me here?

[Adam Carolla]

Is there somebody. Hey, I'm proud to have you at your house. It's your house, isn't it?

[Dawson]

Now, if you said that to me, you built it. If you just said that to me, it'd be one thing. But if you said that to me with ranchero music playing at a low level, I'm in there.

[Adam Carolla]

It's true. All right, well, keep it going.

[J]

Stand with you. And we're proud to fight for you.

[Gavin Newsom]

We honor you. Not only the Latino and Chicano icons that we all know, but our everyday heroes, like from the Ducati commercials guiding their kids, the maestros y maestras opening doors, Los tavajadores harvesting food and nourishing our state and helping to rebuild Los Angeles.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on, hold on.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

So, okay, so what did she say? The Latino heroes, like Cesar Chavez, who was the most fervent opponent of illegal.

[Adam Carolla]

Immigration there was, came up with the term wetback.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Literally used it constantly. Oh, is that the Latino leader that you're heaping so much praise on?

[Adam Carolla]

She didn't bring up any names. I think Fernando Valenzuela. She's talking about some ex Dodgers.

[Dawson]

Fernando.

[Adam Carolla]

Fernando. Yep. All right, so we couldn't have done any of this without them, except for. I think we could have given it a shot. All right, here we go.

[Gavin Newsom]

A leader stepping up and into public service. Latino and Chicano communities Keep our state moving forward. Concorazon y fuerza y pasion. And we are beyond grateful to all of you.

[J]

So we want to acknowledge the fact that our story doesn't exist without yours. And to that, we celebrate you.

[Gavin Newsom]

Nosotro este mis, you know, Caderia y todo Elano. California is strongest when every family has the chance to thrive. That future only works when we lift up Latino voices and Latino dreams. That's the California we believe in, and that's the California we're building together. Conusteres.

[J]

Happy Latino Heritage Month, California.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know why I find all this gross, because I know they don't mean any of it.

[Dawson]

No. Because the last five years, all they did was eliminate the middle class in California. Everybody fucking left.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right. There's this thing where they go, I don't know why. It drives me nuts.

[Dawson]

Not every family has the ability to thrive under the lockdown rules of California. Fundamental and generational family damage.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. But for some reason, it's like when women especially will talk to, like, a nine year old and go, look at you, you little superstar. You're a rock star. Fucking kid's picking his nose and eating it right now. And he's reading two grade levels below his age. Like, I hate that. We couldn't have done it without you. Every one of you. Without you, we would have.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Like, it's belittling. It reminds me of. I don't know if you remember after the Biden and Trump debate when Jill Biden came up on stage and was, like, treating Joe like he was a child.

[Adam Carolla]

You did it, Joe.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

You answered all the questions.

[Adam Carolla]

You did it. Mexicans. You harvested all the vegetables.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

That's the vibe that I get from that.

[Adam Carolla]

You cleaned all our toilets. You harvested all the vegetables.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

You ate all the soup.

[Adam Carolla]

You wiped all the asses of our elderly. You cleaned up all the vomit and the bedpans. And, Joe, you earned a lollipop here.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's a sinister, by the way. But here's an interesting thing. When I see Jill Biden get up on stage and go, joe, you answered all the bad man's questions. And you done good, Joe, you done good. I feel dirty. I feel like I wanna take a shower. Like, when I see this, I feel like I wanna take a rape bath. Like, I wanna just sit in a hot tub and weep openly. And many people I know are like, I like that dude. And I'm like, you like that dude's the grossest sociopath in the world. Okay, people on the left you know when you see the preacher with the jet black hair and the spray tan and the pinky ring and you want to throw up, cuz, you know, he's so full of shit. They go, I hate that guy. I go, that's what. That's who this is. Except for you vote for this guy.

[Dawson]

Here's a sinister thing that not many people see or realize, but with one hand, Gavin Newsom is praising the Latino farm workers who feed this country. And with the other hand, he's shutting off the water to those very farms.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. I just wanna hear the beginning. I just wanna hear his riff. And by the way, you would think again. The overpraise. It's like when they go, without the gay and trans community, we wouldn't be. I think we'd be fine. We'd be fine without. As a matter of fact, we did fine without the trans community for a long time. I'm not saying get rid of the trans community. I'm saying I think City hall would still be there. And I'll bet you the Golden Gate Bridge would be there. And I bet you many. I bet Disneyland would still be there without the trans and gay community. Do you think maybe.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Maybe that's like Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, saying, chicago would not be here without slaves.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I know.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

When did that happen? I must have missed it.

[Adam Carolla]

Slaves built Chicago. But I get, you know, they built Wrigley. Did you know that? Yeah. They placed the last brick in the wall at Wrigley.

[Dawson]

Well, they built all of California too.

[Adam Carolla]

The slaves built. The slaves planted the ivy at Wrigley. All right, let's listen.

[Gavin Newsom]

Beginning this card, Elise, mes de la rencia, Latina, California.

[J]

Our Latino community makes California great, period. We wouldn't be where we are and we wouldn't be who we are without you.

[Gavin Newsom]

The Latino community is a fundamental part of California, bound up in our very DNA. The grit, the joy, the dreamers, the food, the vision. You built this.

[J]

And right now, the federal administration is targeting.

[Adam Carolla]

And by the way, how stupid do you have to be to go. The two whitest people in the world who live in an $8 million house and hung out with the Getty Oil family. They love us.

[Dawson]

I'm curious how much makeup she has to wear in order to make it appear that she's wearing no makeup.

[Adam Carolla]

That's Mr. Al.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Is it racist to do the accent? Yeah, like she's doing. Like, if you're at Chipotle and you're ordering a burrito, do you say, I would like a burrito or do you go, yo quiero burrito. Or is that racist?

[Adam Carolla]

I go, I want the arrors. Con pollo.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Trijoles el negro.

[College Student 1]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't. It's all gross. It's all retarded. It's all stupid. And my only thing is, I would be the world's worst California politician, cuz I'd go, what are we doing today? We gotta cut this video. It's Latino. I'd go, I don't wanna have a fucking assistant do that. No, no, you gotta get up there with your wife. That bitch. What the fuck she in this video for? You're a couple. She's the first person, or whatever we're calling it. We don't call her first lady. First partner. She's your first partner. We're gonna stand. Jesus Christ. Where is she? She's in makeup. Oh, yeah? Why don't you call me when she's not in makeup? Cause that's the only time that bitch is in makeup. And then what? You got a prompter? Yeah, we got a prompter. What do we do? You just heap some bullshit on the Latin community. Talk about shit they do. You know, picking stuff and building stuff. The usual bullshit. Remember you did that thing for the Armenians, right? It's the same teleprompter. We just took the word Armenian and we put Latino in it.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

She's not gonna do her Spanish accent, is she? No, we're gonna make her do the Spanish accent.

[Adam Carolla]

Spanish accent.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Yeah, it is. It's borderline racist, but.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, first off, I'm not gonna do two takes. Get a second camera so they can edit this thing, number one. Number two, go into my bathroom, under the sink, there's a bottle of Jack Daniels. I just need. I just need. I'm not gonna be drunk, don't get me wrong. I just need something to take the fucking edge off. Cause when this shrew starts up with the Spanish. Oh, I knew Linda Ronstadt back and then. Oh, Jesus Christ, shut up and go blow Harvey Weinstein, would you? Over there. Jesus Christ. Oh, it's so yucky.

[Dawson]

It is yucky.

[Adam Carolla]

It suck. It's weird.

[Dawson]

But you're right. The point you make, you're right. When I see people who I always thought were sane and normal, and I see them fawning and over this man, and I believe they do because they simply hate Donald Trump. That's true, but it's disgusting.

[Adam Carolla]

But this guy should. Here's what I'm saying. And I'll tell you what I'm like. You're Too young Joe Bob. But in 80s and 90s movies, once in a while there'd be a movie, like a crime movie, and it'd be a blind woman. And the blind woman, at some point in Act 1 would be going on a date, and the guy would show up, and the guy would show up and he'd have his hair slicked back, and he looked, you know, he looked a little slimy, but he. But we didn't know if he was a bad guy or a good guy yet. Just good looking, little dicey, you know, but we didn't know. And then he'd come in and go, I got you flowers. And he'd go, oh, thank you. Thank you. Let me have a seat. And at some point they'd cut to the dog, and the dog would be growling, and she'd be like, skipper, Skipper, mind your mouth. He never growls at anyone. But when you're watching a movie, you go, the dog knows. He's a fucking bad dude. The dog knows. And I feel that when I see Gavin Newsom, I'm like, skipper, the dog. Like, I'm like, it's a bad dude. He's a bad dude. And then I talk to other people and go, oh, yeah, I'm gonna vote for him.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

You don't think he would lose 48 states, though?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah, he can't be president.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Yeah. This is the same guy that cheated on his wife with his best friend's wife while she was working for him in the mayor's office, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, bad dude. Listen, he's a piece of shit, but people are. Don't overestimate or underestimate people's ability to be dumb and make horrible, horrible decisions. But no, I also. It's a weird. Okay, so here's what he's gotta sell. But here's what all Democrats have to sell, like California style Democrats. You have to go. It'd be like me going, all right, let me give you an example. He's running the fourth largest economy or the sixth largest economy or whatever it is in the United States, right? And he's horrible. He's horrible at everything he does, right? So it'd be like if you said to me, adam, I want you to take over all the Ikea's. And then when you went to Ikea, there was raccoons running around, there was rats, there was no more Swedish meatballs. The place didn't have any of the stuff you wanted. The bookshelves you ordered never came. And it was a mess. I just fucked it up. And then somebody said well, okay, now I got to get away from ikea. And instead I'd like to move to a bigger job. Like, I'd like to run NASA. And then people go, well, we saw the way you ran ikea. And then I go, I'm not gonna do any of that shit. I got a new plan. It's like, well, why wouldn't we think you just do the same shit you did when you ruined California. Like, oh, no, I've abandoned all the stuff I did that ruined California. I wanna go national, and I'm not gonna do any of the stuff I fought for and did for all those years in California. It's like, I just saw you ruin ikea. Why would I think you would take over Nabisco or Unilever or whatever other huge company? Toyota. Why did I think you wouldn't just run Toyota into the ground? And they go, because I'm gonna do everything differently. And it's like, but why don't we just get someone who knows how to run a car company? Why don't we get someone who never did? Yeah. Who never ran anything into the ground?

[Joe Bob Talifi]

I'd be curious to see if. If you're able to pull up this statistic. It's concerning. You mentioned, well, it's the fourth largest economy, and Gavin talks about that all the time. We have the fourth largest economy in the world. California has added an astronomical amount of government jobs to increase the economy, which is like you giving your kids an allowance and saying, wow, our household income just went up. How fantastic is that? Which is a hilarious. The lyricist.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you never heard this one, but it's him and Kara Swisher, which I'm only playing. Cause you're here, Joe Bob, because this is Gavin Newsom at his least sensical. Now, you thought me talking to him was him being nonsensical for a long period of time and going in a circle. The Kara Swisher interview from the radio from five years ago is the best. It's a minute and a half of Gavin Newsom being nonsensical. It's just audio, but it's great. It's her asking an actual question and probably expecting an answer. Like when Kamala went to the View and Sunny Hostin was like, and what would you do differently than Joe Biden? And she went, Sunny Hosten must have been like, hey, bitch, I just gave you a fucking softball. Why weren't you ready for this? You had to know. Look, we're friendly confine, but we're gonna ask some questions and pretend we're doing something. And I thought you'd, I thought you'd have that you'd have an answer for that, but you got nothing. Like, she sits down with what's her name and goes, have you been to the border? I've not been to. Well, have you been to the border? We've been to the border. Like, like you weren't prepared for that softball question. So he gets asked by Kara Swisher, what about people leaving California.

[J]

Former Governor Brown said it best. Where the hell are you going to go? And I love Texas. Don't get me wrong.

[Adam Carolla]

Is that the new California motto?

[College Student 2]

Where the hell are you going to go?

[J]

I don't know. But he said it and I, but it was an interesting point because where are you going to get so many of the other things in the balance?

[College Student 2]

She are aware that I've lived there.

[College Student 1]

For two decades, essentially, and this is the first time I've had people really.

[College Student 2]

Talking about not being there and not.

[College Student 1]

That they could figure it out somewhere else. I don't think that's true. I think they can figure out where.

[College Student 2]

They'Re going to go.

[J]

But it's not a zero sum game.

[College Student 1]

Right.

[J]

Okay. I have a friend who just went to Utah.

[Adam Carolla]

Beautiful.

[J]

It may be the right thing for him. They've made a ton of money. They have the ability to take their kids out of public school into private school and they're doing that. And, you know, I imagine they're not going to turn their back forever on California.

[Adam Carolla]

I'd like to follow up and see if that successful Utah couples come back because I don't. You offering up an example of someone who left California. It's not a fantastic argument.

[Dawson]

Seems like he just pulled a Rob Reiner there.

[Adam Carolla]

He did. He pulled a Rob Reiner. Rob Reiner. Did know about it. Didn't know about it. Didn't know if Bill knew. Do you know? I don't know. Does she know? Amy, your dad was a journalist. Did he know he's dead? Answer the question.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Well, he goes on and on too about the. It doesn't say, oh, they're good and you know, we hope to have them back. He says, yeah, they, they got more money and all the kids are in private school and it's beautiful there. They, they love but, you know, maybe they'll come back.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he starts with the quote from Jerry Brown, where are you gonna go? Where are you gonna go? I didn't say it. Jerry Brown did. Like he quoted someone he disagreed with. I guess that 50 seconds was him. That's an insane man. That person doesn't think. I don't even know. He goes to Kara Swisher, who's gonna suck on his ass the whole time. And she asked him a softball question, and he could go, you know, California's got beaches and mountains and it's beautiful, and maybe there's a little too much red tape. And I'm trying to thin that out a little bit now to make things a little more hospitable to businesses. And I think that will attract more people. Whatever his answer is, I know a couple who moved to Provo.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

Well, it's interesting, too, because it's also. It has to be the people around him. And those are the same types of people that are around Kamala. When you're talking about the View, where Sunny hosting just gives her a layup and just whiffs it. That show was after, I wanna say, if my memory serves me, she had just done George Stephanopoulos and he asked her the same layup question. And in between those two interviews, nobody thought to say we'd probably come up with an answer for this at no point.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a weird thing. I mean, anybody's been involved with any court anything before you get deposed, you'll, like, sit down with your lawyers and they'll start asking you tough questions. I'll go, don't say that. No, no, don't say that. Say this, you know, whatever, and you work it out. I mean, Dr. Phil probably did that back in the day. All right, Joe Bob, let me give you a plug. Where should people go to find your stuff?

[Joe Bob Talifi]

J, O, B, O, B. Pretty much anywhere. There's not many brown guys named Joe Bob. Definitely not ones that have all their teeth.

[Adam Carolla]

Are you one of the brown guys who cleans the toilets or picks the cabbage?

[Joe Bob Talifi]

I actually. I can't think of anything witty. I was gonna say plays the sports, but I don't think I have that much melanin in me.

[Adam Carolla]

Football.

[Joe Bob Talifi]

There we go. I could do that. No. One grandparent was Joe, the other one was Bob. So that's how you get Joe Bob. You got a brown guy with a hillbilly Alabama backwoods name, J O, B, O, B.

[Adam Carolla]

Everywhere. Everywhere. I'm gonna be in Albuquerque, New Mexico, coming up at the chemo theater September 26th. And then Flagstaff, Arizona, September, September 27th at the Orpheum Theater. And you can go to amcroll.com for all the live shows because I'll be in Vegas, I'll be in Burbank, and go everywhere. And until next time, Sam Corolla for Joe Bob saying Mahalo.

[Dawson]

Pick up your phone and leave us a voicemail at 888-634-1744 and you'll get tickets to see Adam Corolla at AdamCorola.com.

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[College Student 2]

Like the old TV show Fire.

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[Adam Carolla]

Ghosts. What the hell? This is the most amazing sight I've never seen.

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[College Student 2]

Lawyer like the old TV show Country.

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[Adam Carolla]

What the hell? This is the most amazing sight I've never seen.

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