Justin Bartha Teases National Treasure 3 + L.A. Mayor Karen Bass Calls Ice Raids “Un-American”

Summary

Adam Carolla Show: Justin Bartha Teases National Treasure 3 + L.A. Mayor Karen Bass Calls ICE Raids “Un-American”

Release Date: July 9, 2025

In this episode, The Adam Carolla Show features a dynamic blend of humor, insightful commentary, and in-depth conversation with guest Justin Bartha. The discussion spans a range of topics from traffic patterns influenced by ICE raids in Los Angeles to the intricacies of filmmaking and mental health. Below is a comprehensive summary capturing the key points, notable quotes, and overarching themes of the episode.

Introduction and Guest Announcement

Adam Carolla kicks off the episode by introducing his guest, Justin Bartha, renowned for his roles in the National Treasure series and The Hangover trilogy. He hints at upcoming discussions about a potential third installment of National Treasure and transitions into the day's main topics.

“Justin Bartha has done a ton of stuff. First we'll do a little thought and then a little news and we'll talk to Justin right after this.”
— Adam Carolla (00:00)

Traffic Patterns and ICE Raids in Los Angeles

Carolla delves into the surprising improvement in traffic conditions in Los Angeles, correlating it with recent ICE raids targeting illegal immigrants. He speculates that the removal of a specific demographic significantly impacts traffic flow due to their driving behaviors and vehicle conditions.

“If you remove X amount of the populace from a certain area, then there's gonna be a little less traffic.”
— Adam Carolla (05:07)

He further elaborates on how the daily routines of workers who drive older, less reliable vehicles contribute disproportionately to traffic congestion.

“They drive reliable cars that are maintained that never overheat or break down.”
— Adam Carolla (06:37)

The Story of Dave Sheridan

A heartfelt segment features Carolla reminiscing about Dave Sheridan, an actor who showed immense promise but faded into obscurity after a failed film project. This narrative underscores the unpredictable nature of Hollywood success.

“They were going, we gotta do the next Jim Carrey. […] That's just how this business mean in these streets works.”
— Adam Carolla (20:10)

National Treasure and Diane Kruger Review

Carolla discusses a particularly harsh review of National Treasure that criticizes actress Diane Kruger’s performance. The critique labeled her as a “horrible actress,” sparking a conversation about the impact of negative reviews on an actor’s career.

“They just literally said horrible actress in front of her name.”
— Adam Carolla (33:36)

He defends Kruger’s performance, arguing that such reviews are often the product of individual biases rather than objective assessments.

“She was great in all this stuff.”
— Adam Carolla (34:16)

Karen Bass and ICE Raids

A significant portion of the episode scrutinizes Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass’s stance on ICE raids. Carolla expresses frustration over what he perceives as political posturing at the expense of practical solutions like rebuilding efforts after disasters.

“Karen Bass is on the side of the illegals. So that's her. Her world.”
— Adam Carolla (46:23)

He criticizes Bass for focusing on political battles rather than addressing the immediate needs of the community, such as rebuilding burned areas.

“They don't care about rebuilding shit. They care about fighting Trump.”
— Adam Carolla (48:58)

Kidnapper News

The show briefly touches on a recent kidnapping incident where a man impulsively snatched a 6-year-old boy, leading to a chaotic pursuit by the child’s parents.

“I don't mind the capers […] it's just, I'm just gonna snatch up this kid, walk away.”
— Adam Carolla (41:14)

Carolla contrasts premeditated crimes with impulsive acts, emphasizing his concern over unpredictably violent behaviors.

Interview with Justin Bartha

Justin Bartha joins the show via Zoom to discuss his upcoming film, Nuked, slated for release on July 11, 2025. The conversation covers:

• Unpredictability of Comedy Success: Both Adam and Justin reflect on how comedies can be hit or miss, with many factors influencing a film’s reception.

  “Good movies are so hard to make, especially comedies. You don't know what's gonna land versus what seemed funny on the page but just didn't.”
  — Adam Carolla (68:42)

• Challenges in Filmmaking: They discuss the collaborative nature of filmmaking and the inherent uncertainties in predicting a movie’s success.

  “There's something magical that just cannot be curated.”
  — Andrew (Justin Bartha) (71:21)

• National Treasure 3 Potential: Justin hints at the possibility of a third installment in the National Treasure series, reflecting on its enduring popularity as "comfort food" for audiences.

Comedy and Mental Health

The episode transitions into a candid discussion about mental health and coping mechanisms in the digital age. Carolla shares his appreciation for physical activities and building projects as ways to maintain mental well-being, contrasting it with his family's reliance on talk therapy.

“Jumping into a cold lake and then getting out and running six miles, I think is gonna do you better.”
— Adam Carolla

Justin Bartha echoes similar sentiments, emphasizing a balanced approach that combines physical activity with self-reflection.

“It gives you some tools to kind of bring me back out of that. The dregs of digital life.”
— Andrew (Justin Bartha) (80:43)

Reflections on Parenting and Personal Growth

The hosts delve into personal anecdotes about parenting styles and their influence on personal development. They discuss the balance between discipline and empathy, highlighting how different approaches can shape children's behavior and resilience.

“There are two dads. There's a kind of practical dad that plays catch with you […] and then there's a kind of dad that lives in the young man's head.”
— Adam Carolla (97:36)

Concluding Remarks

The episode wraps up with final thoughts on the discussed topics and a friendly sign-off, with Carolla encouraging listeners to attend his live shows and stay engaged with the ongoing conversations.

“Until next time, Adam Crawford, Justin Bartha and Mayhem Miller saying mahalo out.”
— Adam Carolla (121:14)

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This episode of The Adam Carolla Show masterfully blends humor with critical social commentary, offering listeners both entertainment and thoughtful insights. From dissecting urban challenges in Los Angeles to celebrating the unpredictable journey of actors like Justin Bartha, the conversation remains engaging and relevant.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Well, in this episode, Mayhem's doing the news. I got a lot of thoughts. And Justin Bartha, he is the actor who is in the National Treasure, also the Hangover, all three of them as well. So interesting guy, done a ton of stuff. First we'll do a little thought and then a little news and we'll talk to Justin right after this.

[Brian Bishop]

The ace man's keeping busy. Why don't you join us for a live podcast in Irvine at the Irvine Improv on July 10th and then and four shows in Covina, California at the Laugh Factory Covina on July 11th and July 12th. Tickets for these and more shows are available at AdamCarolla.com hey, it's Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Brian Bishop]

Studios in Glendale, California. This is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today from the Hangover and National Treasure, Justin Bartha. Plus the news and trending topics with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now with a pressure washer full of rants, Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, get it on Got to get it on the choice. Get it on, get it on, get on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Justin Bar the man. I love that guy. I love those movies. I love National Treasure. Hey Andrew, you ever find that? Was that telling you about that review of National Treasure where they critique the female? Oh, no, no. I was talking to Daphne about it. Ask Daphne about that review I asked her to find. Anyway, I'll get you into that in a second. All right. So few thoughts. I've gotten a few tweets and people tweet me that now that ICE has crashed in in Los Angeles and they've rounded up the illegals, traffic isn't what it used to be. And I had this sort of concept because I haven't been in Malibu in a long time, six months. But I went back there and I pulled up there about 5 o' clock yesterday and I said to my girlfriend, I said, huh, not too bad. Wasn't too bad. Like, you know, no one wants to go from here to Malibu, especially four in the afternoon.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But I said, moving, it moved pretty good.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I thought it was. Cause the 4th of July, the bass, I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

I said, I did about 45, 50 minutes, moved pretty good. And then I speculated. I went, well, you know, Palisade's all cleared out, Malibu's all cleared out, just probably less cars or whatever. But then I started sort of noticing that I was moving along a little faster and incrementally, you know, 10 or 15% enough to notice. Not dramatic, but when I was reading this tweet, I was like, well, there's something, look, there's something to this. If you remove X amount of the populace from a certain area, then there's gonna be a little less traffic.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And if everybody's hiding out cause they don't wanna get snatched up off the street, there's a lot of Ann Francisco's hiding in that.

[Adam Carolla]

Ann Francisco? What are you, one of those Uncle Tom Biens?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. No, sir.

[Adam Carolla]

So then I started thinking about it and I've complained for 100,000 years in this town, which is I have seen the busted up Gardner truck overheating or the car, they'll take a Toyota mid-80s Toyota mini truck and stack up 75 pallets on the back of it, you know, like four stories high with bungee cords and LA's finest. That thing fell over and it's blocking three lanes and all sorts of shit like that. And I was like, well, it's not only a numbers thing. Like if you go, okay, what's the difference between my mom or my grandma or my ex wife or something and one illegal being removed. Well, couple things. A, they drive reliable cars that are maintained that never overheat or break down. And they don't get tire blowouts because they're not running on bald retreads. You know what I mean? Number one. Number two, they're essentially home all day. If you're a gardener or you're even in the trades or you're running a food cart or something like that. You're making the round, you're out and.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

About, hustling and bustling.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I mean you work for Pixar, you pull in at 9 in the morning, you park your electric car and you don't get back into it until 7 o' clock that night. Right. But if you're delivering for Uber, grubhub or you know, driving Uber or grubhub or something like that, or like I said, working, like, let's just say you're, you know, you're pressure washing. I know, I love it. You're pressure washing the outside of apartment buildings or you're doing windows or you're doing gardening. Well, you got seven clients a day. So you're out and you're making the rounds and you're driving a full size truck and the truck is probably not maintained. So it's in a weird way it's like the people that do all the work in this town are the Hispanics, are the Mexicans and, or Salvadoran, Guatemalan, whatever. Those who do all the work. They do all the work. All of it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Claroquec?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, all of it. And so they are the ones that in the morning are in their trucks and they're in traffic and they're going to the, they're going to Home Depot and picking up drywall and then they're getting back on the freeway, they're going back and forth on the trail.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

They're going to Home Depot.

[Adam Carolla]

They're not coming back. They're not coming back. They're not coming back. Yeah. So then you go, well, for every one of them you could probably have six of either my mom, my grandma or my ex wife who don't do anything all day. They might get up at some point and go get sushi at noon or something and then come back, then even get on the freeway. They're not part of the mix, you know what I'm saying?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So like one of those gardener guys, one worker guy, one making runs to Home Depot guy, pressure washing guy, one of those working guys is probably the equivalent to like 25 of these bitches. Because in terms of traffic.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about time on the road, miles spent. Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And vehicle air quality index, size of vehicle and likelihood of shit falling off, you know, extension ladders don't fall off the back of those chicks cars and block lanes, donuts. And they don't get blowouts and they don't, they're not driving trucks that are carrying way too many pallets of bricks and overheat going up the 405. Whatever. So you're talking about a smallish group that is creating a large ish part of the traffic, like, sort of per capita. I'll put you this way. Look at it no different than this. You go to the park on a Saturday. You want to play. You want to get a softball game going, but you can't because there's five soccer games going, and the place is packed. Who's using the park? Now, the park is three blocks from my mom's house and three blocks from Dawson's house. I drove back from Dawson's house. There, the park just filled with Mexicans. Okay, so who's using the park? Well, the answer is the Mexicans are using the park. But whose park is it? Well, it's 1 25,000. My mom. But she won't go there. And she's not going there. She's just paying taxes, saying, we're not even using. If you look at the freeway like the park, like, who's barbecuing? Who's playing soccer? Like, who's utilizing this thing per capita? Like, in a much greater way than the aforementioned ladies who lunch. Okay? Now, you add another component. You are priced out of the market you're working in. We've discussed this before. You live in Beverly Hills. You live in LA Canada. You live in better parts of Pasadena, Santa Monica, Brentwood, Bel Air, Venice Beach. Well, your gardener doesn't live three houses down in Bel Air next to J. Lo and Ben. They don't live. I'm in LA Canada. Nobody, no gardener lives in La Canada. They're in Sun Valley. They're in North Hollywood. Reseda. It's a commute. You know what I'm saying?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And if you would like to afford a house in this godforsaken city, you gotta get way the fuck out of town. So now you're a gardener and you're trying to. You want to buy a house, but your house is in Newhall Saugus now because you can't afford shit in Sherman Oaks, right? So more commute, more truck, more time. So I would say it's a combination of fewer human beings and fewer cars on the road. But a bigger component of it is who's doing the driving and what kind of driving and how roadworthy are these vehicles? I mean, you got to think every fucking people who drive modern cars. When is the last time a modern car you saw, like, anyone who's owned a modern vehicle. When's the last time you broke down, like out on the highway, overheated or transmission gave out or something? It's just, it pretty much doesn't happen anymore. And when you do, you clog up lanes, you gotta get the tow truck. It's a clusterfuck, causes a lot of traffic. But if you're driving a beat to shit, old, you know, 87 Ford F150, Gardner's truck, then yeah, it's gonna happen, or any piece of shit. So I think it's the kind of driving they do mixed with less people, mixed with road worthy vehicles making a bigger impact. Like they'll go, well, Black males are 6.5% of society, you know, but they account for 57% of homicides. You go, okay, that's a smaller footprint. I've been too long without attacking the blacks in this country.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah, you gotta spread that a little bit.

[Adam Carolla]

You gotta spread it out. No, it's a smaller group making a bigger impact statistically. And you could say the inverse about Asians or something like that. There's a happy side, there's a sad side. But yes, a small group can make a big impact on a subject. So I think there's something there. It's not zero. It can't be zero. You can't pick up several thousand people who are driving beat up trucks and circumnavigating Los Angeles all day, remove them from the highways and the byways and go. It doesn't make no impact.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Here's a traffic map that I have never seen in my entire life.

[Adam Carolla]

So somebody tweeted me a traffic map of the 405 and the 5 and the 210. It's all green, it's all green. And then they went here. It was before ice got here, and it was all red. But the all green one could have been taken Sunday night at 2 in the morning, I guess. You know what I mean?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I could be manipulating the data right here.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Anyone with a crayon and some wherewithal could have doctored this bad boy up. So I need a little more science than just red and green. But I can tell you that as a guy, see, I'm a good test case for this because I drove from here to Malibu every day almost.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I knew the rhythm of the night, I knew the traffic rhythm. And of course that was pre trump, pre ice, pre everything. And I drove yesterday, babe in the woods and just went. It was pretty light out there. It wasn't too bad. I wasn't connecting it to anything.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You connected the dots.

[Adam Carolla]

Later on, I saw the tweet and I was like, well, yeah, that's definitely something.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. Yeah. And so you put this algorithm together of, you know, gardeners, and it's.

[Adam Carolla]

But what I'm telling everybody, like, anything, you got to look into it. It's not just less people. It's less people who do a ton of driving breakdown. There's a lot of other elements, like.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

A great claims adjuster for GEICO or some type of applying the formula in fight clubs.

[Adam Carolla]

I was in a movie.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Let's see. I was in a movie. Think about what it was called. I was in a movie. They tried when Ace Ventura blew up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

They were, like, scrambling to go, what's our next Ace Ventura? You know, what's our. You know how everyone does that, right? Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's Hollywood.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Frank McCluskey, insurance. Frank McCluskey. I was in a movie where they were trying to do Ace Ventura, but this guy was an insurance adjuster, like a safety insurance inspector. CI. CIike. What is CI?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Standard investigator.

[Adam Carolla]

He worked for insurance companies and everything was about safety. And I was in a movie.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Claims investigator.

[Adam Carolla]

Claims investigator. Yeah. And I was in. They were trying desperately to capture that Ace Ventura in a bottle that lighted him up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

See her going, all righty, then, Your best Birchum.

[Adam Carolla]

And. Oh, God. Oh, God. I was in it with. I played a cop, Frank McCluskey, CIA. Dawson. You know who that actor was? No.

[Brian Bishop]

Don't recognize him.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, you do. And I'll tell you why. You're gonna recognize that guy. We gotta figure it out. You know how. All right. Also, that guy played the limo driver in Windy City Heat. But also, that guy was in a band.

[Brian Bishop]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The second best band in Palmdale.

[Adam Carolla]

Second loudest. What was the name of the Scourge? Oh, God.

[Andrew]

Give me a minute.

[Adam Carolla]

It was so funny because he was in the. Dawson, they were in the second loudest band in Palmdale. You know who the loudest band was in Palmdale?

[Brian Bishop]

I don't remember.

[Adam Carolla]

Windjammer. They were Calypso Band.

[Brian Bishop]

That's right.

[Adam Carolla]

And it was so funny that they're being beaten by Calypso Band. Oh, shit. You gotta figure that one out, Dawson. But it makes me laugh. Yeah. This guy was gonna be the next Jim Carrey. Oh, what's his name? You can tell me his name, Dawson. It'll be right at the top of Frank. He is Frank McCluskey. So it's right. It was A. It was a major release. I don't know if Dolly Parton was.

[Brian Bishop]

I can't. Something Sheridan. I can't.

[Adam Carolla]

Dave Sheridan. There you go. Rocking.

[Brian Bishop]

I can't zoom in close enough.

[Adam Carolla]

No, it's not just pow. Dave Sheridan, this good dude and funny guy and played a lot of different stuff, but he was that guy. He was going to be that guy. I was in that movie anyway. Oh, the clip. All right, let's watch it. It's. Again, it's like, so Ace Ventura came out of nowhere. And then everyone scrambled and went, we gotta do an Ace Ventura. So this is Frank McCluskey.

[Andrew]

CIA, meet Frank McCluskey.

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, Mr. Belvedere.

[Andrew]

His best friend just got whacked and the cops are sure. They don't care.

[Adam Carolla]

That's me.

[Andrew]

You sure? Pretty sure. Now this ordinary guy has to solve a murder.

[Brian Bishop]

I'm gonna have to go undercover.

[Andrew]

Even if it kills him. Dave Sheridan is Frank McClusky. CI springy thing. You can't be too safe. Beta PG 13 starts Friday.

[Adam Carolla]

Ah, by the way, that went across.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The universe so bad that it got good again.

[Brian Bishop]

I think I know the second loudest greatest band in Palmdale was Van Stone.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Van Stone. Yeah. He was in Van Stone and it was either Scourge or Windjammer.

[Brian Bishop]

I think it was Windjammer. They might have liked Scourge.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. I think they had issues with Scourge, too. Yeah. Van. He was the lead singer. Van Stone, think Spinal Tap. And they're from the Palmdale area. And they were the second loudest band from Palmdale, but they were beat out by Calypso band name, I think Windjammer. That could be making that up. And one of them is called Scourge. It was fair.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Steel drums go hard.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah, that was Dave Sheridan. Yes. Yeah. Good dude. I have. And he also. He was good in Windy City Heat. He played the limo, played the limbo.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

His face. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, let's see. Was amazing in what? Doofy. Scary. Scary Movie. Scary Movie. Scary Movie.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He did a great job.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Dave is a super talented guy that had a minute. And here's how Hollywood works. At some point, he got tapped to carry a movie, to be the lead in a movie that if it took off, he's set. If it fails, you never get a second chance to lead a movie. It's like you literally, you know, you get one UFC fight gamble and you fucking get knocked down in the first round and you just never get a second. The phone never rings again. And that's just, that's, you know, it's how life works with dates and job interviews and everything. But I mean, Dave was young and funny and like rubber faced and good looking and they were going, this guy's the next Jim Carrey. We're going to put him in this movie. It was a big budget movie. It had plenty of people in it. It was a big movie. They launched it, it failed. His phone never rang again. That's just weird. That's just how this business mean in these streets works. Yeah, but he's funny and he's nice and he's versatile and he's talented and I'd be curious what Dave Sheridan is up to. And by the way, you know, they, you know, it's a business where it's like, who's funny? And whatever. It's like it's so easy to be really funny and really talented and just not heard of ever again. Like it's just crazy.

[Brian Bishop]

I can't find it here. I have it on my studio at home. But remember the theme song for Same Name Game? Same Name Game with Damoshek singing it. Dave Sheridan gave us all, gave me all of the instrumental Van Stone tracks and told me I could do anything I wanted with it.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Brian Bishop]

We were trying to come up with the intro.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll find it.

[Brian Bishop]

I'll bring it in tomorrow.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Brian Bishop]

Yeah, that was me and Damoshek back in 06. Thanks to Dave Sheridan.

[Adam Carolla]

Anyway, I'll be doing a live show tomorrow night, Irvine at the Improv. Jay Moore is going to be up on stage with me. And that guy's just good on stage, man, that guy is good. So be prepared for that. Couple tickets left, not too many. And then Covina Laugh Factory going to be doing a couple of shows there Friday night and Saturday night, a couple tickets left for that. All right, other things to talk about, complain about. I did drive through a part of the Palisades that I never do again. It's been six months for me. My commute takes me through the Palisades if I go back to Malibu, but it's been six months. So I found myself driving through Palisades, a devastated Palisades. But I did find the one house that Karen Bass said was being rebuilt. She was touting like three weeks ago. I found that house. I also found three altogether. So I took some pictures of it just from my car rolling along. I took pictures of three or four structures as I was just taking it from my car windows. I was driving past it. And we'll put it [e-mail], you can skim past these pictures. Give a little perspective.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

New construction. You're saying?

[Adam Carolla]

New construction. Go ahead and do the next one please. Thank you. Or something. Be prepared for the stuff we talk about. And I was looking at these structures and give me another one please. They're all wooden. They're all frame. They're all made with the dimensional lumber. They're all dripped in kerosene. It's just plywood. Osb. Two by fours, four by fours. One big kindling box. Give me the next one. There's one that's sort of further away that I wanted to get in there. So you can kind of see everything around it is burnt and then. But the actual house still sits there.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Have we learned nothing?

[Adam Carolla]

We've learned nothing. We've learned nothing. Where's it in the middle of the space shot, Andrew. Or you don't have whatever that is. Okay. It's weird.

[Andrew]

These are the four photos I took from your phone.

[Adam Carolla]

What are the. Show me the four photos you took from my phone then. Sorry. Or you can bring me my phone. I can figure that one out too. That's one and then there's two and then there's three and then there's ah. That's one's a little further away. Maybe one more where it's just in the middle of nowhere burnt out. You can give my phone. I'll look. But either way everything around it is charred. And then there's a big wooden structure and they're just stick framing this just the way they did back in the day. And I don't know. In a world of concrete and steel construction and modern day stuff. I do not know why we're going right back to wood framed houses. And the reason I want the other pictures Andrew, and I think it's on my phone is it's a hellscape of burnt down houses. And then we're going right back with the wood. Yeah. I don't. Again, I know there's no code for it. I don't know why there's no code for. Doesn't seem like a great plan to just rebuild out of wood. Every part of this house is a framed wooden house.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But it's gotta be up to code ace. We gotta follow the code.

[Adam Carolla]

Well the code may be dictated by Big Timber.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's what I ended up sort of gleaning from a guy who builds cement houses that way.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. Undoubtedly. Because I'm a technologist at this stage in the game. We got 3D printed houses like you could make it happen. Could be kind of an adobe sort of setup. Put some cinder blocks down, use some damn cake icing would be safer than this.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Because it's just a flammable structure all the way around.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I agree. Well, Andrew, you missed the two pictures that are on my phone that were from far away. But. But when I handed you my phone, I said, just load up the house pictures. So that's why I thought we got it. But, well, we'll do it now either way. We'll gather that up, Andrew. We can figure that out. But it's weird to see everything burned to the ground and then a big wooden house getting put up right in the middle.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, how do you make a change? You know, how do you fight against the lobbyists in the lumber industry, you know, because why would they want to change?

[Adam Carolla]

Here's what I will tell you about Any business. Any business has a sort of protocol. Like you work with guys. I tell guys all the time, all the time. I built this whole studio complex back here all out of metal stud. Commercial metal studio. I talk to guys all the time. I go, just do it out of metal. It's easier, it's cheaper, it's faster, it's pre drilled, it's truer, it's cleaner. And they go, yeah, I don't do metal stud. I do wood stud, you know, and you go, I know you do wood stud, but you do metal stud. It's easier, it's faster. It's not. There's nothing to. It makes sense. They're like, yeah, we do wood stud. I'm like, you do wood stud because your dad did wood stud and you do wood stud. And now you have a circular saw that cuts wood. And this is what you do. And your framers and your crew, this is what they do. But what I'm saying is do a different technique. It's better.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's all prefab, you mean? And you just lay down, I mean, you know, put up studs that are metal joists.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a lot of different ways to do it. And this is the picture I was shown which was like, everything is gone. And there's just a. It seems inconceivable to have a big wooden structure being built in the middle of the charred earth. But that's what we have. And I would not rebuild using old techniques. But I don't know why we're doing building that way anyway. Now in this modern, that shit sits out, gets mildewy, rains, gets shit. You Know, the nails get rusty. It gets like fucking moss on it and insects and shit like that. And then you wrap it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Could you imagine? It's like, would you build, would you drive a car that was built outside? It just left outside for six months before it got painted? It's not the way to do it. That's just the way they do it. And I am surprised. I was at Antiwalt Lumber today and I was talking to a deck guy, right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

As one does.

[Adam Carolla]

As one does. And I said to the deck guy, what's the difference between this deck and that deck? Engineered deck material. And he said, well, this is treated. This has a, I don't know, two hour burn rating or something. And I said, yeah, what's that? Well, if you're in a fire zone and you're gonna put a deck on like you're rebuilding in Pasadena, Altadena, you're rebuilding in the Malibu and so on and so forth, Palisades, by code, you have to use the decking that has the burn rating on it. Cause you're in a fire zone. I go, okay, that's fine. The decking has a burn rating on. The rest of the fucking house is just built out of kindling. So what the fuck does that mean anyway?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Flash paper.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, all right. We have, I don't know, you have that review of National Treasure. And I don't know the actress's name, so that's why we probably need to put that on there. But it made me, I had this vague recollection. National Treasure, the first episode, Justin Barthuss co stars in that. He's the comic relief in that. He's real good in it. The first one came out, I do believe when my movie the Hammer came out, and it was in a few. The Hammer was in a couple of theaters. And so me and Kevin Hansche, guy who wrote the Hammer with me, would go out, we'd go see if the crowd showed up or speak before the show or whatever. But National Treasure was the big movie that was playing in the Cineplex and ours was in the small thing stuffed in the corner, which is fine. And one time, after seeing National Treasure signs, like one too many times, Kevin, when I met him on a Friday night at some place, some theater somewhere where they're showing the Hammer and National Treasure was still conquering the box office. He read me a review of National Treasure and it highlighted Diane Kruger, who's the blonde who's in it, who's also in Glorious Basterds. But I don't know. Do you have that, Andrew? Something stuck in my head about it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I have the review, but again, I just got this five minutes ago. What are you looking for in the review?

[Adam Carolla]

See, this is the problem with our process. I was on the phone with Daphne two hours ago. Talk to her about that review.

[Brian Bishop]

I got some Diane Kruger information from the thing right here.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Is it insulting?

[Brian Bishop]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Okay.

[Brian Bishop]

Diane Kruger.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I was saying. This is from the Stanford Daily, and for some reason, Kevin Hench read this to me 15 years ago and it just made me laugh.

[Brian Bishop]

I'll do a search for her name, but here we go.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, hold on, hold on. All right.

[Brian Bishop]

Diane Kruger.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Brian Bishop]

Outdoes her thankless and exploitative role in Tarantino's overrated Inglorious Basterds by playing another German woman with an even more horrendous accent.

[Adam Carolla]

You guys can't talk when Dawson is talking into a microphone. Do you understand that? Thank you. Go ahead. Sorry.

[Brian Bishop]

I'll find the next time it says Diane Krueger.

[Adam Carolla]

That's one of them.

[Brian Bishop]

Again, she outdoes her thankless and exploitative role in Tarantino's overrated Inglorious Bastards.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, this person's just a hater. I mean, that's a good move by.

[Brian Bishop]

Playing another German woman with an even more horrendous accent.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

All right, I'll give him that. Her accent did seem kind of off in both movies. I don't know about National Treasure, but I always thought it was strange. I thought it was just because the character she was playing.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. But there's a specific one I was looking for because in. You don't need to erase the screen, Andrew. But we can keep talking about it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

We want to dunk on Diane Kruger.

[Adam Carolla]

But don't. I don't know. I've always had this conversation with people in that booth. You don't have to take information off the screen if we're talking about that information. If it's like, someone's name.

[Brian Bishop]

Here's the next time Diane Krueger is mentioned. It is a shame, then, that critics didn't have their humor radars on when they watched Nick Cage crying when somebody speaks the words Declaration of Independence and lemon juice in the same sentence. Or Diane Kruger evading a bald batty with the help of a sassy black woman working at a carniceria.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, the one I was telling Daphne to look for. And she may have found it. I don't know. But there's one I read that just said Kevin Hench Read it to me. It just said horrible actress. Diane Kruger is in this movie. They just literally said horrible actress in front of her name.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's not in this. Pretty harsh.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You know, it's easy to sit back from the comment section and type you up a peanut gallery toss. But, you know, and when you're up in front of the camera, it's a little harder.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. See if you can find horrible actress Diane Kruger. But I don't get it. Cause she was.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

She's a great actress.

[Adam Carolla]

She was great in all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or maybe I'll hit up Hanch and he'll. Hench is the kind of guy who'll tell me what publication it was from and who the critic was. Encyclopedia. He's that guy. He is that guy. All right. You got the news?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I do have the news.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. We'll continue this horrible actress quest. But that's the one Daphne gave you, Andrew, the one that Dawson just read. That was pretty bad what you just read.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. That stung.

[Adam Carolla]

Yep. All right. We'll take a quick break. Come back to the news right after this. O'Reilly Auto Parts. Wow. O'Reilly Auto Parts. Well, you know the jingle now. They're in the business of keeping your car on the road, baby. O'Reilly Auto Parts offers friendly, helpful service and the parts knowledge you need for all your maintenance and repairs. These guys been with these guys for a long time, long before they became a sponsor of this program. I'd go to the one it was out in North Hollywood. And then later on I went to the one I just went to the other day up on Foothill in La Canada. Always been a part of my life, always been a car guy. So whether you're a car aficionado or an auto novice, you're going to find the employees at O'Reilly Auto Parts are knowledgeable, helpful, and best of all, they are friendly. So you can stop by O'Reilly Auto Parts today or visit us@o'reillyauto.com Adam that's o'reillyauto.com Adam Morgan. And Morgan, here's a dirty little secret that the insurance industry may not want you to know about. They keep this under wraps. Insurance companies profit by holding on to your money for as long as possible. So after an accident, they might do whatever they can to delay or deny your claim. This way, they can keep those profits growing. Morgan and Morgan fights hard against these corporations to fight to make sure you get every dollar you deserve. I like these guys. They're good and they've Got a good sense of humor, too. Talk to the guys over at their. I think they're out of Vegas. I think that's where they started. But I have to double check anywhere. They're everywhere now. So when Morgan and Morgan takes on a case, they're almost always going after the big insurance companies and not the individuals at fault. There's a reason why Morgan and Morgan is America's largest injury firm. Am I right, Dawson?

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[Adam Carolla]

Pete. Pete. Splash.

[Brian Bishop]

Holy. From 1984.

[Adam Carolla]

What? Wow. Wow.

[Brian Bishop]

The 2025 ACE Awards coming this December. Now back to the Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that's where you read the description. TiVo trivia time.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm into it.

[Adam Carolla]

You just read the description and you gotta guess the movie.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, I get it. I get it. That's a great one.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I'd say my greatest move of that one is a knife salesman.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't know, Bud.

[Adam Carolla]

The Fan.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, really?

[Adam Carolla]

Robert De Niro plays a knife in the fan in the movie. The fan. Right. You never know where they're gonna start with that. But I named myself Pete. Cause it was a hard vowel consonant. And Adam was too soft and I was getting beat.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You're talking about ringing in Pete?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Pete and Repeat were sitting in the boat.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. That's right. Adam was like, ah, this is almost. A guy named Pete would jump in and beat me. Right. All right, what do you got?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Got in the news would be, kidnapper grabs a boy, 6, off Coney island street as screaming child's parents chase him down in this wild video.

[Adam Carolla]

That's just drugs, right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, look, it looked like he was like, just casually walking around with them. And then once he saw the lady, he tossed the baby right at her.

[Adam Carolla]

What is that person?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He was feeling himself just a little bit too much.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a lot of. There's a lot of mental illness and it's just out on the street.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, you develop mental illness if you do enough drugs, I guess. So it's indiscernible one from the other.

[Adam Carolla]

I guess so.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You know, it's some people that just have a natural affinity, like go that direction, but other people. Yeah. Do drugs and it erodes their brain. The impurities in the drugs eat up their brain. So now they're like, you know, he's.

[Adam Carolla]

Also wearing a hat, like he's a dervish.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Whirling one or just a standard child grabbing one?

[Adam Carolla]

I'm glad you brought up the term whirling dervish, because when I did Dancing with the Stars, I went to my young dance partner and I referenced a whirling dervish. And she went, huh? And I said whirling dervish. And she went, I don't know what that is.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Listen, I can.

[Adam Carolla]

I said, that's all you do is dance for a living. And that's the only dancer I know.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I think so, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Why don't you know that?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, she's like very sports specific, you know. She's not over in the dervish world.

[Adam Carolla]

She's Mormon and 19 from Utah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well known dervishes over there.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that's dervish country, isn't it?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, well, yeah, he snatched him up. They grabbed him. He's busted for kidnapping.

[Adam Carolla]

What is that guy?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, he's Jonathan Robalino.

[Adam Carolla]

Get ice up in there.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. They didn't mention his immigration status, but yeah, they.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll tell you, the scariest criminals are the impulse criminals. I don't mind the guys planning the diamond heist for nine months or the train robbery. It's the impulse guys. It's just, I'm just gonna push that person onto the subway tracks or I'm just gonna whack that person in the back of the head with a brick or I'm just gonna snatch up this kid, walk away. Like it's the impulse crime that gets me. I don't mind the capers.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It seemed like the way that he was acting wasn't like nefarious. Like I'm gonna cap little kid and run off with him. It was like he was high.

[Adam Carolla]

It was high. That was weird. I don't know if that was. That was not like a Patty Hearst esque kidnapping or a Frank Sinatra Jr. Or a Adolph Coors, I think had his kid kidnapped.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Damn.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm pretty sure. Adolph Coors of Coors beer for extortion.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

For money, ransom or beer. I would think so.

[Adam Carolla]

I think Coors, there's some story about his kid getting kidnapped. Also in the world of whirling dervish, I got a private tour of the Coors brewery in Rocky Mountains up there with the water and I had the 28 year old blonde chick and she's Going to take us on the tour. Private tour was great. And I said, I'm from la. What was the whole smoking the Bandit story? I mean, they took the Coors, they're taking it to Texarkana or something. I don't get it. Why can't you just take Coors? Why can't you buy Coors and Texarkana or something? She goes, what? I go smoking the Bandit. Smoking the Bandit. They had the Bandit. I mean, they were smoke.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I mean, it was product placement in that movie.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, they had. It was 700 million cases. They were taking a case up from Texarkanada, eastbound and down. Come on now. And she was like, I don't know what you're talking about. And of course, the biggest course movie ever. Come on now. I was like, wow. Don't you. Doesn't have to be part of the curriculum before you learn to be a tour guide.

[Brian Bishop]

Everybody knows that there are things thirsty in Atlanta and there's beer in Texarkana.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. That's right. That's right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

She just wanted you to say breaker 1:9.

[Adam Carolla]

It had something to do with non pasteurized products or something, or transporting alcohol.

[Brian Bishop]

Or across state lines.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, because you could. If you were Pabst Blue Ribbon, you could do it, sell it in Oregon. You could sell it anywhere you want it. I mean, it had something to do with Coors wasn't pasteurized and they didn't allow that product Atlanta, because you could buy other beers everywhere. Pretty much like primo beer was like Hawaii and you could buy it out here. It wasn't the transport, it was the pasteurization. I think you can look it up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But now, skirting some regulations there, Bandit.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, she didn't know what I was talking about. And then she. They gave a whole big speech about the water. Like, it's the Rocky Mountain water that makes the difference. It's the Rocky Mountain water. Right? After about 13 speeches about the Rocky Mountain water and why that makes a difference in their beer, they go, we just opened a new facility in St. Louis as well. And I go, well, how do you get the Rocky mountain water to St. Louis? And she goes, it turns out the St. Louis municipal waters, almost exactly St. Paul waters water. Cut the fucking shit, bitch. Cut. You don't know smoking. The Bandit is. Now, there goes this tap water from St. Louis. Give me a fucking break. Rocky mountain. Adolph Coors III, heir to the Coors Brewing Company, was kidnapped on February 1960 and subsequently murdered.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Damn.

[Adam Carolla]

Damn.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

They didn't even ransom him.

[Brian Bishop]

They tried it was ransom gone wrong, but this.

[Adam Carolla]

Anyway, I know the parents have probably heard it a thousand times, but your son is not Adolph Coors iii. This is a rando street situation. Yeah, totally. Sorry. Go ahead.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

All right, next up, LA Mayor Karen Bass denounces and interferes with the ICE raid during a sweep of illegal immigrants in a gang plagued area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the park here. MacArthur park and a large immigrant population.

[Adam Carolla]

Someone left the beans out in the rain. I don't think that I can take it. Cause it took so long to make it. And I'll never have that recipe again. You know MacArthur Park. No, I don't.

[Brian Bishop]

I'm so happy that I'm just. Just enough younger than you. That was never tortured with that song.

[Adam Carolla]

I love that song. Are you kidding me?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You're always dropping knowledge.

[Adam Carolla]

That's one of my favorite songs. All right, so MacArthur park, traditional shithole taken over by gang bangers. Basically, you go to MacArthur Park. If you need a fake ID.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, really?

[Adam Carolla]

Or vax card or something, that's where you'd go to MacArthur Park. Cause that's where all the gang banners, Mexicans hang out. So they swept her.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, you can make that big. Because that's a. Yeah, yeah, that's. This is the operation with. Yeah, they had horse and everything like it was.

[Adam Carolla]

But Karen Bass is on the side of the illegals. So that's her. Her world.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, she had a lot of quotes. I didn't know if we had that video.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's what I love. Here's what I. You know, you know when they do that stuff where they go, like they'll do those news things where they'll tabulate stuff. It's usually the right conservative guys doing it. They'll go. So here's the kind of stuff they'll do. They'll go, talk about Trump and Russian collusion between NBC, ABC and CNN and MSNBC, 200,000 hours last month. Talk about Hunter Biden's laptop. 41 seconds combined of all the networks. So you go, okay, these are the stories they're covering. These are the stories they're not covering. You know what I mean? And they have an agenda. So it's like tons and tons of Russian collusion talk or whatever. PP tape, Steele dossier talk. No, talk about Hunter Biden's real laptop. That's an actual thing. Because that's the way they run their news. Okay? If you took Karen Bass and Newsom. So if you took the mayor of Los Angeles and the governor of California and you just went, combined Twitter, press conference, written statements and talk based on trump fighting trump. Ice. Fighting ice versus permits, rebuilding efforts. Palisades, right. You would get 200 million minutes of them fighting with zero fucking permit talk. So in one world, your place just got done burning to the ground, but there's zero updates. There's no, hey, man, Another victory. Those. Here's some info for those who are looking for permits. Here's some building info. Here's whatever. Updates and info. None of that. But it's all. We're fighting Trump and we're fighting ice. So that's who they are. I mean, here's the deal. That's what they care about. Everybody. They don't care about rebuilding shit. They care about fighting Trump. At least the optics in terms of their constituency. So that's where they're at. You like the ufc? I like vintage race cars. That's what we do. I don't talk about stuff I don't care about. But she doesn't care about rebuilding. She cares about fighting trouble.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

This is really interesting. This is the her mentality right here.

[Adam Carolla]

It is clip.

[Karen Bass]

Absolutely. As soon as they stop marching troops that disrupt our kids in parks. Yes. And then, you know, Pete, I mean, there's conversations that happen in public, and then there's other conversations. Conversations, too. What I. What? What did you say?

[Adam Carolla]

This was not.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Since you said nobody was arrested and.

[Adam Carolla]

I didn't determine anyone arrested. This looked purely like it was reconnaissance.

[Karen Bass]

She's, by the way, a communist troops to do that. And by the way, but by the way, how about using undercover folks or drones? They really needed to use all of that military equipment is reconnaissance. Well, I call it a political stunt. If you want to call it a dog and pony show, go right ahead. Same thing.

[Andrew]

With this going on for more than a month now, are you starting to.

[Adam Carolla]

Feel like you're not even in control.

[Andrew]

Of the situation, or is there a feeling of helplessness?

[Karen Bass]

No, I will never feel helpless. And I don't think anybody here feels helpless. That's not in our DNA. We're going to continue fighting.

[Adam Carolla]

Fight. I gotta fight. All right, all right. Everyone's fighting. You gotta fight. You gotta stand up. You gotta fight. You gotta say something. You gotta be heard. And you see at the table, I found a really.

[Brian Bishop]

I found a really wonderful tweet from the Los Angeles Times from yesterday.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, okay.

[Brian Bishop]

Picture of Gavin Newsom looking.

[Adam Carolla]

Is he standing and fighting? He's. He's.

[Brian Bishop]

He's got his chin up and he's looking into the battle on the horizon. Thinking about getting in it says, six months after LA fires, Newsom, calls for federal aid while criticizing the Trump administration.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, didn't be.

[Brian Bishop]

It's not Newsom rebuilt anything or did any. Took any concrete steps to actually help the state of California.

[Adam Carolla]

It's basically that headline is, son makes fun of his stepdad for being fat while asking him for the keys to the Mercedes. Yeah, it's like you need this guy to bail you out, but you keep critiquing him, criticizing him and attacking him, and it makes him not want to help you out. And as a citizen who would like to be helped out, I would ask that you stop attacking the guy. We're asking to help us.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Adam, that hat looks horrible. Can I get a raise?

[Adam Carolla]

That's exactly what he's doing. Hold on. We're paying you? All right, what else you got?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Next up is the Gary Coleman's ex wife. Shannon Price flunks a polygraph about a actor's fatal fall. Pretty big deal.

[Adam Carolla]

First off, that Different Strokes. And that just turned out to be a shit show. It's kind of interesting because Todd Bridges was the original fuck up in that crew. It was the 80s, right? It was money, cocaine. It was like. So he got out of the gate as like the lead fuck up in that group.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You're right.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, 30 years later, everyone's dead and Todd's fine.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He got it together somewhere along the.

[Adam Carolla]

Line because Arnold's dead and Mrs. Drummond or Mr. Drummond's dead and the housekeeper's dead and Dana Plato's dead. I think Dana went first. Drugs. Robin, by the way, whether it's her or Heidi Fleiss, anytime you end up in Pahrumph, there's problems. You're right, there's problems. She went. So then Arnold fell off the stairs or balcony or something, like a double wide trailer. Something like lived in a shitty trailer, fell down the stairs or something and died. And then there's a clip.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

She went on this show and she kind of did a polygraph test, and when they asked her, did you have any kind of thing to do with his fall, she turned out to be deceptive on those questions.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. So now she just put herself in the crosshairs.

[Adam Carolla]

Why would she go on a show and do maybe.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Maybe to get out of the trailer for an evening that her boyfriend died in.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, maybe we can watch a clip or something. Did he fall downstairs in a trailer? Something. Something like that. I got, you know, I got a head full of Frank McCluskey and Van Stone and Adolph Coors III. You know what I mean? It's amazing. I can keep up with half the shit that's rattling around in my head. Gary Coleman, not Webster, you asshole. Jesus Christ. That's Arnold.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

What you talk about, Willis?

[Adam Carolla]

You did a black simile right there.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Black simile, all in my head.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Sorry. Go ahead. Harry Coleman died from a bad fall. Shannon says it is time to prove that she did not kill Gary.

[Andrew]

If you had anything to do physically with Gary's fault, the polygraph's gonna show that. Know what I mean by physical, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I know.

[Andrew]

Pushing him, shoving him, throwing him overboard. Is this important to you? Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Get serious. Let's do this. Truth or deception premieres Thursday, July 10.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I didn't know he married Bethany. That lady.

[Adam Carolla]

They have to pay these people 100 show, right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Because otherwise there's no.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I mean, why would you admit to a murder for free?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I don't know. Also, I. It's not. I guess it's not admissible or. It's not. You're gonna need more than that. I don't know.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I mean, I'm just saying they could start an investigation because of that and exhume the body.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. Maybe we should all just go out like James Dean and not have to hang around and watch everyone die. Yeah.

[Brian Bishop]

That's why I'm glad Heath Ledger's dead.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I wouldn't want him to see this.

[Adam Carolla]

I woke up thinking that, too.

[Brian Bishop]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Thank goodness. I thought he's gone because you have to just hang out, watch everybody. Exactly. Everyone just die. Know what I mean? I got the two guys. I got the two guys. I was always mistaken for dead. I got Gilbert Godfrey.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Norm MacDonald. Oh, I got my two guys. I was dead.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, turns out you're the Highlander.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know what's going around.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I feel bad killing comedians with raspy, hard voices. People.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what you realize as you travel through life. Nobody pays any attention to anything. And it pisses me off because I pay attention to shit, but no one else does. And so they're never listening. They don't even know. They don't even know. They think they know you from something, they got you mixed up with somebody else. I tell you, I had somebody call me Norm MacDonald six months after he died. I was like, is this ever going to end? He's dead. Jesus Christ. By the way, you know who Norm MacDonald is? Why don't you know he's dead? It's all.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I didn't even know he was sick.

[Adam Carolla]

No, he was. He kept it quiet. But there are other rumors. I don't know.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's a norm joke. Sorry, man.

[Adam Carolla]

He was a good dude. Great, but weird. And then he didn't drive, obviously. Yeah. Can I say something? I think comedians, okay, hot chicks know they're hot. And so hot chicks just kind of do what they want. And they never say, I'm late all the time because I'm hot. And they never say anything because I'm hot. But there's a little understanding that that's what they get to do.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you know what I mean?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And they desert it and they just. No hot chick ever goes, I do what I want cuz I'm hot. No one really gives me any shit. So fuck you, bitches. You can wait. Like, you know, I'll be a half hour late to brunch and you guys can all sit there, stare at your napkins.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But if I'm hot, bring it up to them, they will just stonewall you. They don't even believe it. They said no because I'm nice.

[Adam Carolla]

They act.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

They act like there's like some type of cognitive dissonance.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's my point.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a lot of comedians who act weird and do what they want. Cause they're comedians and they go, I'm fucking comedian. So I don't, you know, you go get up in the morning. I don't get up. I'm a comedian. Change that tire. I don't, I'm not fucking. Change the tire. I'm not doing that shit. Drive over to the studio. I'm not coming. I don't drive. I'm not coming to the studio. Like they kind of use it. It's not a full time crutch, but it's a bit of a crutch and people make room for them. Like they'll go, you know, Norm, he's, you know the creative types, you know, he's not going to be on time, he's not going to drive himself. You know, you have to. It's not enough to remind him on a Monday what time the flight is on a Friday. You're going to fucking what, call him Friday and remind him? Because he's not going to remember. It's kind of like, is it that or does he just falling back on it?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I just know as a pro fighter, back when I was a kid, I just had everything done for me all the time and I just assumed it. I had like a learned helplessness.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I had to unlearn because you just got used to being pampered.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And it's like again, the hot chick kind of knowing that the people will wait on her. You know what I mean?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But the game's over if she admits that, so she has to dance around.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a out of it. Comedian Norm MacDonald got a lot of mileage out of just going, I don't draft. And it's like if a dude is a roofer or a dude's a pool man or a school teacher and he goes, I don't drive. He goes, fuck you. Don't. I'm not fucking picking you up. Get a fucking permit and learn how to drive, you lazy sack of shit. But when you're creative, you get to make these announcements. That's all.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Brian Bishop]

Time for Nicaraguan Name that movie with Adam's buddy Oswaldo. See if you can guess which movie this famous line is from.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, Luca Brasi, sleep with the fishes.

[Brian Bishop]

If you said the Godfather, that means.

[Andrew]

Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes.

[Brian Bishop]

You're correct.

[Adam Carolla]

Now back to the show. Justin. Brad Martha has joined us via Zoom. Nuked is the name of his new movie. It'll be in theaters and on digital and on demand. And that is coming up this Friday, July 11th. Justin, from the Hangover trilogy and also National Treasure. And I'll tell you this, Justin, a couple days ago we were here and we have a big whiteboard and someone wrote 4th of July weekend movies to watch. And the top one said national Treasure. And then I walked this whole building and I went, who wrote National Treasure up there? And it turned out 24 year old Chuck wrote it. And I said, chuck, I was gonna fire you, but not anymore. All right, I saw that movie in the theater. Thank you, Chuck. So good to speak to you.

[Andrew]

Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. I've been a fan of yours for years.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I've been a fan of yours for years as well. And of course, I mean, the Hangover, which is, I don't know. No one could have seen that coming, right?

[Andrew]

No, I mean, I think not to the level that it got for sure. I mean, we shot it pretty under the radar and then R rated comedies at that time, you know, they were like, there was some breakouts, but there seemed to be like a ceiling. Like, I think the comp that we were like, when we went into it, we're like, you know, if we got to like Pineapple Express level, that would be amazing. And then it just kind of took off. So. You know, Todd Phillips made that movie. Do you know Todd? I feel like you guys would know each other.

[Adam Carolla]

I've, I, I don't. I can't say that I know him, but I'm sure I've spoken to him before.

[Andrew]

Yeah. So Todd had an amazing track record and I think has made some of the great comedies ever. So, you know, we knew that we had a chance, but, you know, none of us were really known entities. I was the most famous guy at the time. You know, this is before Bradley and Zach really blew up and Ed. So, you know, we knew it was funny, but we didn't know it would take off like it did.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Because National Treasure predated that. Right, right. And that was a big movie and a big Nick Cage movie and I love those kinds of movies. I just have A lot of, I don't know, call it comfort food or something. You know, it's like. It's Mac and cheese of movies or something. Like, it just. There's always room for those movies in my world. I agree.

[Andrew]

National Treasure you're talking about.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. Well, the hangovers, you know, old school and the Hangover and. And all, you know, wedding Crashers and stuff like, you know, that goes without saying. That's great. But there are other movies that I think people. They're a little more Americana. I don't think the critics respond to them like they should. And some people would turn their nose up at them. And for me, it's just comfort food.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I mean, I agree. I mean, that movie. Those movies really became the kind of the gift that kept on giving. You know, we made that when I was in my early 20s and it. They just, like every generation, it seems like this shareable thing. Chuck obviously put it on this Fourth of July.

[Adam Carolla]

24. Yep.

[Andrew]

But, yeah, 24. And I've, you know, I've had, you know, people come up to me and say that they watch it with their parents and their grandparents, and it's this, you know, it's this movie that is comfort food for sure. And it's. They're. They're few and far between these days. It's tougher to make those, you know, that don't. You know, it wasn't an original IP at the time. It was, you know, a big action adventure thing with deference to, like, Indiana Jones. So, yeah, when you can get them, they're great.

[Adam Carolla]

Are you guys working on a third?

[Andrew]

We've. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Ish.

[Andrew]

I mean, it's. They've been trying to put it together for a long time. There's, like, scripts that have been written and, you know, they've kind of come together and fallen apart, and it's been development for a long time. I think if, like, you know, Nick is obviously one of the greatest that has ever done it, and he's kind of back in the. On top, I think. So I think that there's. There's certainly a want for it. I mean, every day I feel like I get asked for a third one. So it's just, you know, if, you know, Bob Iger, maybe give him a call and. And see if you can push it along.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, how did Nuked come about for you?

[Andrew]

Nuked? During the Pandemic, the writer, director, Dina Casper sent it to me, and it was this great little movie. It was a high concept comedy. It's about a group of people. Myself and Anna Camp are married in it and we're celebrating our birthdays and we have our best buddies from the last 20 years come together in this big house that we rent. And then we, we have a no phones party and then we find out that a nuclear weapon is headed straight towards us. And it's this kind of big R rated adult comp. Stoner comedy that, that is just kind of again, like kind of a throwback. And it was sent to me during the pandemic and then the director and I kind of developed it while we were in lockdown. And it's a lot about relationships and how kind of couples have changed, especially during the lockdowns and everything like that.

[Adam Carolla]

How much can you tell in real time how good or how funny something is going to be? Because I feel like you can make a movie and still not really know how much was captured. How much of a lightning in the bottle thing. Comedy is so fickle, you know that like I've shot so many things and it's really still hard to gauge like when what's really gonna land versus what seemed funny on the page but just didn't. You know, you watch it in an edit bay and you just go, eh, I, I guess I thought it was funnier. Even though you're there, you don't really fully know what you have until you watch the finished product, right?

[Andrew]

Absolutely. I mean it's a great question. And with movies especially, we shot this a few years ago and then it goes through rounds of editors and it's constantly changing. Good movies are so hard to make, especially comedies. You don't know what, you know what was funny then, you don't know what's funny now. It depends on the angle. It depends on which take they use. So it's tough. You know, I've been involved with things where I'm like, this feels like it's firing on all cylinders and then it comes out and it's a huge bomb and then vice versa. So you know, with this. And then also, you know what's interesting and frustrating sometimes, like with this movie, you know, it's basically for rental. You can, you know, like a lot of movies now, it's not really playing in theaters besides some, a few select theaters and screenings. And so much of this experience, like we played at the Tribeca Film Festival and it played like, like before I watched it in front of an audience, I was like, it's pretty funny. It's like, it's pretty good. It's solid. I don't know how great, you know, I don't know. And then we put it in front of an audience and it was gangbusters. It was. The people were rolling in the aisles and you, you know, I don't know how much that is because people are just desperate to see a comedy in theaters. And then you're like, well, if they really want to see a comedy in theaters, they're going to watch it at home. Does it play the same? And it's, you know, there's so many factors at play. But I think, you know, this movie, it's about couples and it's about relationships and it's about the end of the world, which we can all identify with now. So there is an evergreen feeling to the comedy. And it works. We thought it was funny, and it's funny. Sometimes it doesn't play out that way.

[Adam Carolla]

No. You know what I always say about comedies, Comedies you could take. I could say to you, justin, what are your 10 favorite ingredients for a stew? And you just give me all 10. And I'd put them all in the pot, and then I'd go, what do you like seasoning wise? You go, I like garlic and I like paprika. You know, I go, all right. And then at some point I cook it all up and you take a little spoon taste and you'd go, eh, I don't know. And I go, why? It's all the stuff you love. And you go, I know. It's just not.

[Andrew]

I know there's a magic that has to happen. It's really wild. Yeah. It's this alchemy that sometimes you get it and sometimes you don't.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it's what makes humans human. That little 10% of. Can't quite explain to somebody who would be from a different race or alien race or different planet or something. You couldn't really explain to them why something was funny.

[Andrew]

I completely agree.

[Adam Carolla]

And even the people that create it can't fully wrap their mind around it. It's like saying, I want this video to go viral. It's like, well, nobody can. The best Internet guys in the world cannot guarantee that and don't have control over it.

[Andrew]

The guys, yeah. Maybe that will protect us from the AI master race that is coming for us. But I think it's that unexpected little piece of magic that that happens. It's certainly the difference. It's hard to bottle. But I, you know, when I. For me, what this project has, it's that kind of inner. It's that human interplay. It's the couples. It's the. The relationship that feels so familiar, yet also is kind of new in this, you know, it's this heightened situation of the nuclear bomb. Yeah, it really is an impossible thing to describe, but you know, when you see it.

[Adam Carolla]

No, but that is. I mean, art is, I guess that way. When people are looking at paintings of many years ago, man, I was like 18, maybe 19, and just sort of living in my dad's garage and looking for work anywhere I could find it. Not going to college or anything. And my friend called me and he said, look, I can get you a day's work if we drive this van to Santa Barbara. It's filled with all these cheap paintings. And then we set them up in like the lobby of a hotel, and then they have an auction. And then we just collect the ones that are left and we take them back to this place in Glendale. I said, okay. And you know, I got paid, get in the van, load the van, went to the van, and I was unloading all the paintings and putting them up on easels where people would bid on them. And there was one that was particularly heinous. And I remember just going, this is embarrassingly bad painting. You know, they had these big sofa sized paintings. Like we'd been like in a bad 70s motel, you know. And I was like, this one, I go, this one, we had 80 paintings. I was like, this one is embarrassing. It's never gonna sell. And about 10 minutes later, a guy walked up who was a bidder, and they're all doing a preview thing. And he walked right to this painting and goes, I love this painting. I'm gonna call it Love of Life. And he went back and sat down and then proceeded to bid on it. And I was like, I guess I don't know anything. Cause I just said this was the worst painting in this room. But to this guy, he not only has he bought it, but he dubbed it Love of Life.

[Andrew]

One man's art is another man's garbage. Sure.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

And comedy's the toughest, I think, because tragedy can follow a pretty good formula that's pretty straightforward. You know, you've got a choice. It's Sophie's choice. You only can keep one child. The music swells, the tears flow. It's like, all right, yeah, I get that. That's doable. Everyone's going to react the same way to that.

[Andrew]

Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of it comes down to point of view. You know, I think with. When it. From what I've noticed in my career with the filmmakers and the artists that I've worked with, the most successful things, the most interesting things, are always come from someone with a very specific point of view that sees the world in one way that also you can really glom onto. And I think with drama, it's a little wider. I mean, because, you know, we. We all have those emotions. And then with comedy, I think you can, you know, there's. You can go broad or you can go. I think we're in a time right now where it kind of gets uber specific. But it's. It's like when you. When you see the, you know, for instance, with this, the end of the world, which we all know, the pandemic, we were all thinking about death for years. When you look back at it, you're like, we're all wearing masks. We're all walking around with masks on. It's ridiculous, you know, the frustration that we have, you know, it is all so ridiculous when you just take a step back and to see that through that kind of frustrating, ridiculous lens. There's something a little bit more cathartic to me than just looking at it and be like, that was so sad. People died. That's inevitable. That's life. But how do we see things from a prism of humor? And that's what kind of separates us, I think.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you have a routine or rituals or diets or things like that that sort of keep you in some sort of sane, grounded place in A world where everyone's just kind of floating. It's real easy just to kind of drift places and get caught up in your phone and your screen or your Twitter battle or something like that. Do you have a cold plunge or hike or a diet or a meditation or. For me, I'm a big fan of build a tree house. Like get a project going. I sort of sit back and I sit around all this time, a lot of time, and I think about how there used to be tons of hobbies in this land and people had hobbies and they had hobby stores and every town had five hobby stores. Little shacks, you know, not big, you know, Walmart sized ones, but ma and pa. You walk in there and it smell like models and vulcanized rubber. It had like its own, Every store had its own smell. Everything sells everything now, so there's no one smell. We had like a liquor store smell and the transmission shop smell and a hobby store smell. And like, stores like had their own vibe and aura and people got into. All half the commercials I saw on TV were for some glass cutter thing where you could make your own glasses out of a 7Up bottle and stuff. Like, like it was pure hobby and people are like engaged and sort of not chewing on their own limbs all day like a dog.

[Andrew]

It's a store anymore, now it's Amazon. So you don't even get the smell of the store because you're just doing it over the computer, right?

[Adam Carolla]

And the weird thing, you know, the foreplay of it where you pointed at something behind a glass counter and you'd go pull out that one and the person would get confused and start reaching for another. No, no, that one. Oh yeah. Oh ye. Like, yeah. Every store had its own smell. It all had its own vibe. And people were really tangible and sort of engaged in stuff. And I realized that kept people sane and people not having any material attachment. Like we need some analog time, not all digital world stuff. Yeah, for sure. And so I don't know, what do you, what do you do? How do you do it?

[Andrew]

I mean, you know, I ping pong back and forth from healthy to extremely unhealthy. But you know, I have things that I love that I've loved forever, that I continue to prioritize, like playing basketball every week. You know, I live in New York, so I love to ride my bike everywhere, I walk everywhere. You know, just, just, you know, I love this city. I love being in the city. I love to write, I love to, you know, I've got kids, so I do spend A lot of time with my kids and you know, and take in everything the city has to offer. See theater, stuff like that. But, you know, I also, you know, I certainly have gotten, you know, it's gotten dark in the past few years where I, you know, you fall off that wagon. And I, you know, for me recently, I, I did like a. It's something called Hoffman. I don't know if you've heard.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I've heard of that. I have heard of that.

[Andrew]

I did this. It's kind of like a mental health retreat, like an emotional boot camp type of thing that I was always interested in. For real, a long, long time. And I finally did any. And part of that is getting off your phones and being completely tech free for nine days. And that was heaven. And it gives you also. Yeah, it was amazing. And it gives you some tools to kind. You know, I'm not. I've tried meditating. I spent, you know, I've tried all, I've tried everything, you know, therapy, meditation, all that stuff. And I think it's all beneficial. But some of it for me was a little unrealistic or I just was lazy and I just didn't do it. And this, you know, kind of reframed some of that stuff and was able to give me some, you know, a foundation to work from and appreciate everything that I have, all that stuff. So I think when it comes to feeling healthy, mental health, I know it's a kind of a buzzer that everybody talks about now and I think that a lot of that has gone away partly because people are. Have less, you know, working on things and they have more time to be on their phones and get sucked in. It's part. Part of what this movie is about too. So, yeah, I try personally, I try to stay off the phone as much as possible, but I get sucked in. And then I, you know, this Hoffman thing gave me some tools to bring me back out of that. The dregs of digital life.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right. I want to talk about Hoffman because I have heard about a lot and I'm of two thoughts. I come from a group of therapists. Basically, essentially your parents are therapists or. It's hard to explain but. But I don't have a large family, but my grandmother, I never knew either one of my biological grandfathers. I have a step grandfather and then my mom's an only child and my dad has a couple of brothers that passed, but they were from Philadelphia and they never flew or it was real scattered kind of poor mentality stuff and everybody My grandmother became a counselor at the Veterans Administration in Westwood, California, out here. And that was her job for a million years. And then my dad was essentially a special school teacher, and then sort of became a therapist after that. And my mom was always on some sort of quest to better herself emotionally after a troubling childhood. And so I basically watched people go on a sort of journey, but never arrive at a destination and didn't have a lot to show for it at the end of the day or at the end of their life. And I started thinking, you know, why not win a marathon or build a cabin, you know, or really go out and do something, you know what I mean, with a plaque or a trophy or a picture or ribbon. And I'm not just talking about accolades, but just a feeling of finishing that bedroom you just added on or that big deck you just put on in front of your place or whatever, like something a little more tangible. And they were a little more like, you should read this book on deck building and then talk to a therapist. And I was like, I think we should build a deck. I think that'll feel pretty good. And they never built the deck. They read the book about it, and then they spoke to a therapist about it. And the older I get, I started to really realize that, you know, talk therapy is fine, but, like, jumping into a cold lake and then getting out and running six miles, I think is gonna do you better.

[Andrew]

I completely agree, but I also think it's a combination of both. Yes, I think, you know, it's funny. My wife is totally of that mentality. She's like a person that just keeps moving and is a doer, a doer, a doer. And she's a fitness professional as a job. And I think like, her working out so much, she has no bullshit going on in her brain. It's like she is of the let's build the cabin and she does it. I kind of tend to do both. I mean, I've tried a little of building stuff, and then I've been doing talk therapy for a while. But I also think that all those things have limits. And I. To me, it's like there's. I have a little bit of a searcher mentality, but I also feel like for years, I'm like, it's all. It's all bullshit. I agree everything with what you're saying. And then I gotta say, I did this thing for a week. I've done a couple of little things like this. Whether it's like, you know, a seminar when I was Younger to quit smoking. And it works, you know, like I quit smoking because of the seminar I did. So there's certain things like whether it. I'm not saying it's a mental hack. It's reframing the way your brain works that helps a little. I'm not saying it's the answer to everything, but I am saying that what I got out of this thing, which I was incredibly suspect and didn't want to go and was put it off forever. It definitely rewired me in a way that the anxiety that I was dealing with for many different reasons, for real world reasons, not just from the kind of malaise, whatever that bourgeois malaise is, it's from shit that I went through in my life, whether it's medical issues, whether it's stuff that happened, I didn't have a way to deal with it, and talk therapy wasn't working and things that I, you know, whether it's drugs or people love doing, psychedelic drugs, all that stuff, none of that worked with this. It was like, I'll try this. And it worked.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, tell me about Hoffman, because I've heard about it a few times. No, I think I've talked to a few people that have engaged in. All makes sense in that, you know. You know, when people go look, you. It's, you know, like sometimes when people talk about certain religions, you know, like when I was a little, when I was young, I had someone trying to get me into Buddhism, you know, and they're like, you sit and you chant and you chant on things and if you want something, what do you need? I need a new pickup truck. Then you sit and you chant on it every day for an hour, you know, And I was like, well, of course, if I carve out an hour and just focus on my new pickup truck, I probably will get a pickup truck faster, because that makes sense. And there's certain things where they're like, it's about putting the phone away, it's about eating clean, it's about exercising, it's about going to bed early. It's like, yeah, okay, yes, everyone is gonna be better. Feel better if you do that. But that's good. Basic sort of grandpa stuff.

[Andrew]

Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

But Hoffman. And is there a secret sauce to it? Is it different than the sort of stuff Grandma already knew?

[Andrew]

I mean, yes and no. I mean, first of all, there's no religion at all attached to it, and there's no secrets attached to it. It's like it's all open source. You could figure out what they're doing Pretty easily. I mean, the main conceit is just breaking patterns, which, you know, a lot of people talk about. But it gives you, it's almost like a little like weak crash course in like an emotional boot camp and breaking patterns. So to me, it felt like this like psychedelic trip without drugs. And you're learning before you go in. You fill out kind of like all this paperwork about what your own patterns are, what you think your patterns are from childhood to now, what you, what you do, you know, you know, what you think about yourself and what you do. Whether it's, you know, your guilt trip, people, whether it's you're anxious, all that stuff. There's hundreds of them. And then you break them down and you figure out where they come from. It's always pretty much your parents. And then you kind of get, you kind of tackle that. And then after you tackle that with your parents, you move on to basically yourself. And you, you know, you're filling in a lot of space that was taken up by these patterns that we all live through subconsciously and consciously. You can't really help your program to do. So It's a little bit of a deprogramming in a sense.

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[Adam Carolla]

Your parents, your dad was commercial real estate guy I do believe. And that's.

[Andrew]

Yeah, he was a department store manager. I was born in Florida and he was like a assistant manager at a Birdine's department store and then worked his way up to manager and then we moved to Michigan when he got a job at a commercial real estate development firm and he like put stores in malls kind of thing. And my mom was a teacher.

[Adam Carolla]

Sounds pretty stable.

[Andrew]

Yeah, it was pretty stable. Yeah, they were great, great parents. My dad, it was, you know, American dream. Like he worked his way up. We were middle class, worked his way up to upper middle class. By the time I went to. By the time I was in college, you know, I went to college with all student loans and by the time I was graduating he had worked his way off to pay off my student loans.

[Adam Carolla]

So there's lots of bad parents out there. Sounds like yours were pretty good. Seems to be some baggage. There's things that parents lay on kids. I don't know why. I feel maybe this is a little cathartic, but I feel like there's way too much parents telling kids shit that they just shouldn't tell them. You know, just kind of let them be kids, leave them alone, you know, let them be joy. In what way?

[Andrew]

Telling them.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, there was. There was a movement that sort of predates you which is a sort of a kids or people too, and they're sort of like young adults. And parents could lay a bunch of shit on kids when they shouldn't have even heard about this kind of stuff or knew what, you know, it's important to know what's going on with mommy and daddy's relationship kind of stuff, because that predates me.

[Andrew]

When was when, do you think? I feel like that's kind of more of a modern thing. No.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, everything is new again. Like, you know, ecology is, you know, turned into the ice Age, turned into global warming, turned into. It's just all bunch of. It's a bunch of stuff that. It gets cyclical. Yeah, it's very cyclical. It's like 50 years comes around and we get into the same. We revisit the same movements over and over again, which is a weird thing. It's just the group that's revisiting it wasn't around during the last time, so they don't really know it.

[Andrew]

I didn't come from that. I came from a pretty emotionally closed off. I mean, my parents are great, my family is great, but I was pretty independent early on. And my dad was, you know, he was working all the time, just always working. And my mom, you know, my mom was a homemaker for a while and then was working, you know, and it's like I was kind of left to my own devices. And we didn't. It wasn't. We certainly weren't. They didn't put their own stuff on me, you know, if anything, they hid anything negative from me. So there was a little bit of a glossy feel to it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Well, I think what happened was, is that was this sort of 50s version of Americana, which is mommy presents as the perfect housewife and then she goes to the bedroom and has a few of mommy's little helpers and passes out in front of the bed. And then there became this thing where everyone needs to share and be open and probably went a little too far the other direction in terms of working dads. I've always said that there are two dads. There's a kind of practical dad that plays catch with you, hopefully, and protects you and things like that. And then there's a kind of dad that lives in the young man's head. And what I'm saying is if your dad just. You talk to a kid and go, when I was three, my dad just split. We never saw him again. I think he remarried, married, and that was it. That kid is kind of scarred by that. Sure, sure. If the dad, when the kid was three was a naval pilot, he was an aviator. He went to Vietnam and he was shot down by MiG then that memory's hero dad. My dad was a patriot. My dad was a hero. He wanted to come back to us, but he was fighting for this country. Either way, you haven't seen your dad since you were three. But, but there's a different dad that's.

[Andrew]

In, it's a story that you tell.

[Adam Carolla]

In your head, right? And everyone I know who didn't really see their dad but goes, my dad worked really hard like my dad. I didn't see him that much cause he was working, he was taking care of us. It's like that's a much different dad than. I didn't see dad very often because he was at the bar with his girlfriend.

[Andrew]

Yeah, my dad was not at the bar with his girlfriend that I know of. I mean he traveled a bit, but you know. Yeah, he was, he was a worker man. He, he was a hard worker and, and he, you know, it was, he was a great dad. I have great parents. I really do. And it's not like, you know, I don't know if this, I, I don't think, I'm not saying like the, when we talk about Hoffman, the patterns, everything. This isn't like. Because my parents screwed me up and now I'm like, you know, this, it's just a, you know, it's. I, I do think that the idea.

[Adam Carolla]

Of.

[Andrew]

Identity and certainly mental health, which is I know everywhere now and could seem a little trite because it's everywhere. It just wasn't a conversation until recently. And I think there's a reason why it's everywhere now and people are searching and I think that's a good thing. I think they're obviously what you're saying with go build a house, go jump in a cold lake. I think that's great. Also a great additive way to live. But it's like everyone finding the right way to be healthy. For me, I was trying everything and a lot of it is just light. You know, I'm like, I'm going to be 47 soon. And it's like life in the last. Since the pandemic for everyone is kept on piling on and it's like shit got real and it's like you don't know how to deal with it. And it just kept on piling on. And instead of just either self medicating or just burying it like the way that my parents, certain my dad certainly did not dealing with it, I had to figure out because I started to see the patterns that I noticed in myself being passed on to my own kids.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you?

[Andrew]

And so when you see them in your own kids, you're like, fuck, I gotta change this.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Trying to think. I have twins. They're 19. They're just so different.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's. It's weird how different they are and they're just always that way. Yeah.

[Andrew]

But it was also like how I dealt with my kid. Right. So it's not just like the way my. I got. I love my kids, but I, I found myself dealing with them whether it's through frustration or not know, you know, I have a. I have a 11 year old girl that's pre puberty and I don't know how to deal with that. It was confusing. It is confusing. And I was just felt not equipped to figure it out. And the way that I was parenting was just all of these, you know, just instinctual things that were not helping. And I was, I had to like, break the, the pattern.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you? There is something interesting now, which is parents seem to be very interested in being good parents, whereas when I was a kid, they didn't sweat the details about, you know, it was like, you know.

[Andrew]

Yeah, for sure. I think there's a weird thing now is the awareness now, like, for me, I'm a disciplinarian. Like, I believe in discipline and my wife is certainly more of a pushover and very sweet and it's this mix and when I, you know, I'm so aware of the discipline of, like, whether it's an Instagram thing of how to discipline your kids or what discipline does and blah, blah, blah. It's like this loop of right and wrong where I'm like, it feels like sometimes you gotta be really strict with your kids and then it's, oh, what does that do to them? What does that. You know, it's the double think. That anxiety that I think now is. Is really baked into the cake. Which is ridiculous. But.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, your wife sounds pretty disciplined herself.

[Andrew]

She is disciplined. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Naturally. Yeah. No, it's good because what I found is you'll get into trouble if you're talking about the kids, but your wife really is hearing it about her.

[Andrew]

Yeah, I got super lucky. I mean, my wife's amazing and it's like, she also is incredibly. She's just an incredibly healthy human being. And, And I am. Maybe I wasn't that healthy, especially before I met her. So I think it's like a. She's also a Constant reminder of what's possible when it comes to health in a way of like, this is. She's a happy person naturally.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, you can't beat happy naturally.

[Andrew]

And it's wild. It's something that's foreign to me. It's like, wow, this is real shit.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, Well, I mean, people are like dogs. I mean, you know, I've had a lab that's just fucking happy all the time. And then she's not happy all the time.

[Andrew]

But she's. I think a lot of that kind of healthy comes from that discipline. I mean, the natural discipline she has.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. Oh, 100%. And it's something we have. We, we are losing because it's hard to impose discipline on kids these days because people think it's borderline abuse or something. Whatever it is our football coaches made us do or gym coaches or dads or whatever would have been pretty much considered abuse by today's standards.

[Andrew]

I mean, I was. Yeah, go ahead.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I was gonna say, did you grow up thinking about show business, acting, creating comedy, writing? Like, was that something that hit her?

[Andrew]

I think not too. I mean, I played sports. I was actually just going to bring up with the discipline thing. I, you know, I was an assistant coach for my girls softball team. And the coach, who's this really sweet guy, was, is like very sweet. Doesn't, doesn't want to do any discipline, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, listen, I'm gonna watch 10 year olds play softball. We got to try to whip them into shape. So I go in there and I like, I'm making these kids do push ups drills, really, you know, making sure that they understand that this is a team sport and we've got to be disciplined. And it's amazing. You see these kids immediately, just with the smallest bit of discipline, immediately change. And their parents too, who are probably more of the ilk of like a little softer. They're like, oh, wow, that really helped.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

You know, so I really believe in that stuff. But when it comes, you know, with acting like I was, I became interested when I was a teenager, when I was like 13, 14. I started when I realized that I wasn't gonna make any of the teams. I was like, what else can I do? And. And there was a bunch of girls in the drama club, and I kind of started to go that way.

[Adam Carolla]

And were, was the family encouraging or were they just sort of laissez faire about it, or did they think it was something you'd sort of get out of your system? Did anyone have Any designs on you being an architect or an attorney or something like that?

[Andrew]

I mean it was certainly foreign to them. I mean no one in my family is from the entertainment industry. We were living outside of Detroit. I come from kind of a reformed Jewish family where of course my mother wants me to be a doctor or something, have a regular job. And it was. But my mom also, you know, she's a creative person and she always wanted to be a piano player and kind of felt like she was stifled maybe by her own father to follow her own dreams. So I definitely, they were encouraging in that way and they saw how much I loved it. I think that the one, the big roadblock was when I was like, I want to go do this, I want to go to college for this. And that's when my like someone like my dad was just like no, no, no, no, no, we're not going to school for acting. You can go do something else. And that was definitely a fork in the road. But it took some convincing and my mom ended up helping with that convincing.

[Adam Carolla]

How did your parents react? So I've interviewed everybody and there's quite a chasm between parents reactions to their kids success. There's, you know, Norman Lear basically said his mom wouldn't recognize any success he had till the end. Like just never gave it up. There's dads who never give it up. You know, my family was sort of that way in a lazy way. They just didn't really know what I did. And then there are other parents that are like, oh, they took the poster from the first movie and they put it in the entry hall their house, you know, and blah blah, blah. There's extreme swings. There's from like almost doesn't exist to way over the top sunshine, blown up ass wearing it like a mom of a NFL player who's wearing the jersey of the up in the stands with a button of a picture of him on stuff like this dream. So where did you.

[Andrew]

Yeah, my parents definitely had some. My parents definitely have some posters up in their garage. They're on that spectrum for sure. Absolutely. They're super proud. And it's like, it's just like me, it's kind of. Even though I had my sight set on it, you know, fairly early on, the fact, you know, for my dad, when I started making money from it, it was just like wait, wait, wait, this is real. And then when, you know, I found success pretty early in my career success, you know, as in finding jobs and stuff, they. They couldn't believe it. So it was almost like, all of a sudden, it was entering into a whole new world for them. So they loved it. And. And what? You know, and I also, you know, early on, like through college and after college, I was always hust. I was such. When I was younger, I was such a hustler. I mean, I was working every little job on a movie set. I was just, you know, always working, waiting tables, getting any job job possible to pay the bills. I wasn't asking them for money and stuff like that, so they let me be when it came to that. I had pride in that kind of sense early on. And then when I found, you know, success doing it, they were, you know, they were really excited.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm looking here that you were a production assistant on Analyze this and you worked on movies. Like, did you learn a lot just sort of standing in the. The wings, the shadows on the other side of the camera?

[Andrew]

Yeah, I mean, I was like an assistant at Tribeca Production at De Niro's production company early on. And that's how I kind of got on to Analyze this. And then I went to New York University and all of the kind of young kids, they would like, oh, there's a PA job here, a PA job there. And we would get each other jobs on random. You know, like, I was paid on a dozen random movies. MONTEL Williams DIRECTORIAL DEBUT I locked down a garage in a mall upstate, you know, for 50 bucks a day, you know, with some random movie starring his wife, who was a stripper at the time. It's like random shit. Just anything. I was an editing pa. I was a costume pa. I was a, you know, anything. Because I had never been on a movie set, never been in the business. So I soaked up. I soaked it all up. And I met a ton of people from all different sides. And I also wanted to make movies. So I just didn't know about the departments. And it was like an education, just actually doing it and getting my hands dirty and understanding the different personalities and of the departments of making a movie. Making a movie, I think, is like, as I said before, it's nearly impossible to that it's done. And it's like this little ecosystem with kind of every job you can imagine in the world all on this set. Talk about building a house you build. There's carpenters, there's Gap, there's everything to build this world within a world. And to me, that was like the most fascinating thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it is like a job site in that you have framers, then you have drywall guys, you have stucco guys. You have roofers, you have H Vac guys, electricians, plumbers, finish guys, tile guys, carpet guys, cabinet guys, people finding fabric.

[Andrew]

Making clothes, hanging lights. You know, it's everything sourcing everything.

[Adam Carolla]

Catering.

[Andrew]

Yeah, but production designer. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

It is like a construction site in that when you have a big budget, you get lots of subs. You just go drywall guy, foundation guy, H Vac guy, whatever. When the budget is small, the guy's framing is also hanging the drywall and doing the H Vac work as well. And there isn't the, you know, costume, catering grip, all that stuff. It can be. You wear a lot of different hats because you don't have the budget to build.

[Andrew]

Absolutely. But sometimes, you know, it's like. It's amazing to me. You know, I've done these. The big movies that we talked about and I've, you know, and that Nuked is a tiny movie. Couple million bucks. I've done movies for a few hundred thousand. I've done all the spectrum of every budget student films, you know, and it's amazing to me how it really is pretty much the same across the board. Yes, you do get some doubling up on positions, certainly, but you still get a lot of artisans that are passionate about what they do, hopefully that just want to make something palpable and real. It really is not that different on the different budget levels. It's just time. You just have more time on those big budgets.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I say every time everyone thinks it's about special effects, graphics or something, I go, it's time. When you got to shoot a movie in 17 days or something, that's versus. You have money, you get three months.

[Andrew]

Absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

You're buying time. Yes.

[Andrew]

And sometimes it works against it, sometimes it works for it. I've seen also both. I've been part of huge budget movies that had nothing but time, and they turned out to be some of the worst movies ever made. And then I've been a part of little tiny budget movies that you just had to go, go, go. And they were some of the favorite things I've ever done. It really is. Again, you never know how it's gonna turn out. The time is a luxury, though. Absolutely. Especially for an actor.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. Do you think? And I don't know where you're shooting mainly. I know in la, we just talked about getting a budget back and bringing franchises and shooting and production back to Los Angeles. Sort of come back to Hollywood. In other words, don't go to Atlanta or Prague or wherever. Where's the lion's Share of your stuff being done or having done.

[Andrew]

I live in New York, and.

[Adam Carolla]

New.

[Andrew]

York has good tax incentives, and I shoot a lot in New York. It depends. I mean, I was supposed to go do a movie a couple months ago, a month ago that got pushed in Saudi Arabia. You know, I might go do something in Budapest. You know, it's A lot of it is. You know, I hope that California, you know, I think it certainly will stoke some more work. But so much of this is about unions. I mean, a lot of these, you know, companies want to shoot outside of the United States because of union. And, you know, it's all. It comes down to money. So that's tough when it comes to tax incentives. Can only push you so far in the States, but I don't know. We'll see.

[Adam Carolla]

Have you shot anything in LA in recent years or times?

[Andrew]

Not kind of, right? Not in. A few years ago. I shot a movie called Sweet Girl, like a NETFLIX movie with Jason Momoa in la, but that was the last thing I shot there.

[Adam Carolla]

How much writing are you doing?

[Andrew]

I try to. I try to. You know, it's tough. I try to focus up, and I'm writing something right now. You know, it's. It's. Writing is so hard, man, to keep, disciplined. I also, you know, I started this business with my wife during the pandemic that blew up. This kind of fitness app that I do a lot of writing for, too, when it comes to, like, building. And it's like, building a business has been really, really satisfying with her. So it's like, you know, building the website and making products and, you know, merch and trying to grow that business has been super satisfying. So I've been focusing a lot on that in the last few years, and now I'm kind of getting back into the writing and trying to focus on my own stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

I would say with writing, because I've done a fair amount of it, you have to fool yourself into being productive, and you have to kind of understand your foibles and weaknesses and shortcomings. I was approached to write a book, and I was like, I can't type. I can't spell. So I immediately went to a guy who I knew was smart, and I said, look, we're gonna just write this book together. You're gonna type everything. I'm just gonna dictate everything, and I'll give you some money. And he was like, okay. And I've written six books with that guy. But it's just because I knew I'm not gonna sit down at the keyboard every day and bang shit out. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna find this guy, I'm gonna get on the speakerphone with him, and I'm gonna be stuck in traffic for two hours, and I'm gonna be dictating, like, the whole time. And because of that, a guy who's, like, functionally illiterate, who barely graduated high school, is able to be on the New York Times bestseller list. But it's only. Cause I knew. I knew who I was. Like, I was, like, not gonna do that. And the few features that I've written, I immediately had same things. Like, I have an idea. I have an idea for a movie. There's no goddamn way I'm gonna sit down and bang it out. I'll find a guy, he'll be a smart guy, he'll know sports, and I'll go sit with him, and I'll go, we're gonna write this movie, and you're gonna be writing, and I'm gonna be, like, pacing around behind you while you're banging stuff out. And I'm gonna be in my car, and you're gonna be on the speakerphone. Cause that's the only way this is. We're gonna get this done. But if you kind of know yourself, like, if you go, look, I'm just gonna go in my room and I'm gonna light a candle and I'm gonna lock the door. Nothing. I wouldn't have anything.

[Andrew]

So, yeah, for sure.

[Adam Carolla]

So if you know yourself, you can be productive writing. And maybe you are that person who just goes, I'm not that serious.

[Andrew]

And I've realized that over the last few years. I mean, also finding the right guy. I mean, I. You know, a few years ago, I sold something and wrote, like, an adult animated comedy. And I found another guy to write with. And he was. You know, we were. We didn't work well together. So it was kind of like bouncing off someone that it was the wrong guy and made it even more painful. Right now I'm. I, you know, I'm starting something with another guy that I. That I know. And I think that that might work out. So I completely agree. I mean, I. For me, it's a lot of my own shortcomings, is my own brain of just the excuses of, this is shit. You know, like every writer. This is shit. Why don't I stop? What's the point of this? Like, no one wants to see this. Instead of, I have a great idea. I like this idea. I want to see where it Goes. So I. You know, for me, it's needing a bit of a cheerleader and someone that can help me not quit.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. The best way to write a book is have someone approach you and pay you to write a book. And then you will write this book that you would have never, ever written. And it's perfect. They trick you into writing a book. They go, all right, now we're gonna give you 500k. You go, all right. And they go, not all at once. Not all at once. And you go, how's this? Right?

[Andrew]

And breadcrumbs.

[Adam Carolla]

We'll give you 80 right now. And then you're gonna send in the first three chapters, and then you can do another 80. But it's only if we like the first chapter. And then we get a. You know, before we go to print, we need a manuscript, and it's like. And then when it comes out, we'll give you another draw. And then when it goes to paperback, that's when you get. And it's like, you get this trail of breadcrumbs that forces you to become a novelist when you're really just sort of a lazy creative type.

[Andrew]

That's the way to do it. You gotta trick yourself.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? And the problem is, most people don't get approached by people who tell them to do it, but you have to, in a weird way, do it to yourself, you know?

[Andrew]

Adam, are you offering me $500,000 right now?

[Adam Carolla]

Not all at once.

[Andrew]

Okay. Okay. How much are we talking up front?

[Adam Carolla]

We're gonna break it off into five chunks.

[Andrew]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Andrew]

The first chunk is 20 bucks.

[Adam Carolla]

$20. And I'll need a full manuscript by then, once I proofread it. Yeah, that's how it works. And then you just trick yourself into it. And I do think when it comes to the writing partners, I mean, speaking from personal experience, I don't think you can't go, I need a writing partner. You have to kind of look at people that are in your world and go, that guy doesn't know it yet, and he may not even think he's my writing partner. But that guy would be perfect for this.

[Andrew]

That's what I just did. They'll see if it works out.

[Adam Carolla]

I pray it does. All right, Justin, let me give you a plug one more time. Nuked is the name of the film. All the other stuff, we'll see. I'll keep my fingers crossed for National Treasure 3 and Chuck anytime. I'll give Chuck a raise. Anytime you're in la, come by and say hi in person.

[Andrew]

I would love that. I would love that. Thank you so much for having me, man. Really appreciate it.

[Adam Carolla]

Thanks, Justin. Appreciate it. All right, Justin Bartha, everybody. I'm doing live stand up everywhere. So you can go to AdamCarolla.com I'll be at Road America. I'll be in Zany's Rosemont, Illinois, man. I'm never there. So come on out, say hi. And until next time, Adam Crawford, Justin Barthep and Mayhem Miller saying mahalo out.

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