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Leonarda Jonie on Cancel Culture, Anna Vocino on Clean Eating & the Fat Shaming Flight Fiasco
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Comedian Leonarda Jonie joins Adam for a raw and hilarious discussion about censorship, cancel culture, and how comedy has become a battleground for free speech. Leonarda opens up about getting canceled by fellow comedians and having venues...
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Adam Carolla
In this episode we have very funny and controversial stand up comic Leonarda Joni comes in. Also, Anna Vaccino comes in. She's a. Oh, she's the eat happy, you know, low, you know, the low carb cow. No seed oil, all that stuff. Good stuff, good recipes. We'll also be doing the news with Mayhem. We'll do all that right after this. Hey, it's Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show. Betonline is the world's most trusted betting platform and your number one source for betting on all the madness. Even if your bracket is busted, Betonline has more ways to stay in on the action with a free Sweet 16 bracket and live betting on every remaining tournament game. So with the largest selection and odds on everything from College Basketball to NBA to MLB, NHL and MMA, even golf, BetOnline continues to be your number one sports beta betting source. From every Cinderella story to every hat trick, Betonline has you covered with odds, stats and more for every game, every play and every win. Remember, betonline is the world's most trusted betting platform. Bet online. The game starts here. Pluto TV is the place for movie.
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Leonarda Joni
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Adam Carolla
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Anna Vaccino
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Leonarda Joni
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Adam Carolla
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Jason Mayhem Miller
From Corolla 1 Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, comedian Leonardo Joni plus Anna Faucino and the news and trending topics with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now Torpedo Bat is also his nickname for his junk. Adam Carolla.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. No choice but to get him and get on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Leonardo and I saw each other several weeks ago at the end doing some fun shows over there.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, that's a great venue. Talk about a free speech venue, huh?
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, I've said it many times in, in that regard. It's fun. It's kind of raucous. It's a little rock and rolly. The crowd sits right up against the edge. You know, the, the stage has a long table like Barge. It just runs the whole length of it and people have their drinks basically right up on the edge of the strength it's in OC and God, South.
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Anna Vaccino
It's South Bay. Yeah, it's the end.
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Adam Carolla
The end. It's fun. And I don't know if you've found this, but I find that when you go on the road. Oh God. I just did 20 minutes in Beverly Hills and I haven't done anything locally in a million years. And this was a kind of country club Beverly Hills crowd. And I just got up there and said like two and a half jokes and I was like, fuck, I forgot you fucking uptight assholes were. I'm used to traveling and playing to my crowd. But you tell me if you find this, you can go to places that are more sort of red. And I don't even wanna go Republican Democrats, just more into free speech and ideas and nonjudgmental. Their panties aren't a bunch. You can go to Oklahoma City and Wisconsin and stuff, you can go to those places. But if you find a bastion of that here in la, in California, they hit even harder. They're even more ready to go because.
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Anna Vaccino
You'Re drawing from people who are in a market that don't get served. And these people exist. Like everybody thinks LA is all a bunch of blue hippies and stuff. It's not. There's a lot of right wing people who are free speech and even like non right wing people who are free speech and they're not getting it right.
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Adam Carolla
So we're getting is kind of pent up versus a place that would be writer redder leaning who was like, well, that's just every day for us, right? They're not getting served.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, they're not getting served. I actually think it's kind of across the board that people on the right aren't getting served. Because if you look at the major comedy providers like Netflix and all the specials that are out there, they keep putting up this trans, non binary, some kind of ethnic, and they want to just throw that in your face. And people really tuned out of that kind of comedy, you know?
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Adam Carolla
Well, I think economically they're waking up in terms of Disney and Netflix and Bud Light or whomever. Like they were full steam ahead and somehow Covid kind of weaponized them like they were already jogging down that road toward equality and equity and DEI and everything. Somehow Covid made them sprint like they saw an opening and they're like, now we can go headlong into our nutty nonsense, man. You know, men are women and women are men and you can't define every crazy idea they got. Got a big scoop of creatine in it from COVID I don't know why, but Covid like, left some. It made teachers go nuts. It made politicians go nuts. It made everybody in power go nuts.
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Anna Vaccino
They were drunk with power. You had. It was communism on steroids. Because what was the message that they kept saying over Covid? He, I don't care if you don't want to take the vaccine, take it for me and my sick grandma. So that's communism. Communism is about how you have to think about others over yourself. And they legislate it.
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Adam Carolla
Right?
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Anna Vaccino
These people were drunk with power.
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Adam Carolla
Yes. So it sped up during COVID and then in the last 10 minutes with. I mean, ultimately these people have no, they have no principles. It's mostly all about money. If you're Disney, if you're a corporation, it's about money. If you're a politician, it's about getting reelected. So lo and behold, now you have all these politicians go, whoa, whoa, whoa. I wanted to close the border or I didn't want to shut the schools or I love fracking. You know, they just changed, they changed their story, just like Gavin Newsom. And all these companies like Disney are starting to wake up. They're, you know, go woke, go broke. And they're all to change and steer it back a little. So it's happening, I think.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, I mean, I hope you're right. I am a little bit more conspiratorial. So I do think they have an ideology. I think they have a agenda where their whole thing is destroy the West.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, I believe they have an ideology in the micro. Like the chick who ran Bud Light was an ideologue, Ivy League. She was bought and paid for. She was done with. But Bud Light as an entity wants to make money. She, you know, this person over at Disney is into trans whatever, but Disney globally wants sales.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, but what you have happening is those companies even themselves represent, you know, Western accomplishment, Right? So you've got this tribe of people who found each other through their mental illnesses and they infiltrate all of these organizations. They, they've infiltrated all the college organizations. Why, why is it that every college student comes out, you know, a Marxist and by the way, uglier than they went in. It's all.
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Dawson
I think you guys are overthinking it because I think that corporations are just like uncool dads who are listening to whoever is the marketing genius of the day. So this one had blue hair, so you listened to her for a while, but now everyone went, ahaha. Too much, too much.
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Anna Vaccino
But how did she get in there? How did they all get into all these positions where they can.
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Adam Carolla
I'll give you a simple analogy, okay? The teaching profession attracts people with a kind of socialist mindset.
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Anna Vaccino
Now?
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, now. Meaning what is teaching? What is tenure? You know what I mean? Like, what is this place? Well, you show up, it's not results oriented. It doesn't matter how the kid's doing the math or testing, reading or whatever, you're gonna get paid and we'll make it impossible to fire you. So it's essentially like a socialist kind of job. It is not an entrepreneurial job.
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Anna Vaccino
You're correct.
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Adam Carolla
It is the opposite of going, I'm gonna start my own bakery. And right in the middle of downtown, but I got to get there early and make the dough at three in the morning. It is the opposite is maximum days off. Maximum days off.
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Anna Vaccino
I mean, maximum benefits.
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Adam Carolla
Maximum benefits, maximum days off, maximum lack of results. Zero results and zero accountability when no results pour in. Which is exactly the opposite of you starting your own bakery. You can start your own bakery and go, I'm taking Monday's offer. I'm taking a me day. Okay, no money for you. Covid comes around, bakery guys gotta go to work. Teachers, we're all staying home. So it attracts people that have that mindset. It's not an entrepreneurial mindset. And then those people have to impart information to young people who don't have the information. What angle do you think they're going to approach history from or economics or anything else when that's their mindset? And by the way, they don't know anything. Cause they don't. They've never been in the real world. They've lived in this sort of false gravity world. And I've said. And then you expect them to not graft on their feelings onto kids. And it's mostly women. And that's an impossibility for young women. It's an impossibility not to know what she thinking about or who she voted for. Meet his murder. Like whatever the fucking shit she think about. Women can't do that.
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Anna Vaccino
Women and low testosterone males, right?
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Adam Carolla
Cannot not indoctrinate. But also, as I've said, a little thought experiment. What if it was, forget about ideology or politics. What if it's just we only hire vegans? Like mostly vegan teachers. They're mostly vegan teachers. Well, at some point, the cafeteria would want to serve up meatloaf. And these people go, I don't think that's. You know. And then some kid would be in the Back of the class, he'd open a slim gym and they'd go, tom.
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Anna Vaccino
Tommy is an extremist.
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Adam Carolla
Do you know how offensive that can be to me? And others who are in?
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Anna Vaccino
He's a white supremacist extremist.
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Adam Carolla
The others, there may be 2 out of 25 teachers that's not vegan. But they learn to keep their mouth shut because they don't want to target on their back. And they're not bringing a pot roast into the break room, they're bringing Tofurkey in because they. And they would go, I don't want to be fucking cast out. I don't want to be attacked. I don't want. I saw another guy came in here and he ate a meatloaf sandwich. And they terrorized, you know, they just, they wrote a swastika on his locker in the lounge, you know what I mean? So then now at a certain point, the kids are vegan, the teachers are vegan. It's a recruitment center. It's just the way it goes. So that's where we're at.
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Anna Vaccino
But a lot of that goes back to the takeover of the teachers unions in the 60s and the 70s where they were infiltrated by communist leaders who wanted specifically to dismantle the school system to the place. To the point where, you know, you had a lot of kids who were acting out and things that like beating up teachers, setting teachers on fire. This is in the schools of New York City. And what came down from the teachers union is because they were from like a minority group that needed to be protected was, hey, don't discipline the kids. Just let them do what they got to do. Is a tough time for them right now. So then, you know, you have that kind of instituted policy along with what you're talking about, the sort of Marxist ideology of you're going to have your job no matter what. Don't worry about the results. This is what we want. And so it does come from a kind of top down level. And then what kind of teachers are they going to hire? They're not hiring. Like when I went to high school many years ago, I was in a, you know, mostly white town, conservative white town. I had like plenty of male teachers who had good families. They talked about their families. They had good. They were intelligent and some of them were conservative. Actually, I think most of them were conservative. So I had a split of male and female teachers. There wasn't a whole lot. And the female teachers weren't doing a lot of this. They were older. Yeah, they were like in their 40s and 50s and 60s, they didn't have this, like, we need to, like, control these minds, you know, I was actually taught to think for myself. I was asked to critically reason things.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. Well, the other thing that happened is this stuff used to start in college, and now somebody figured out we can get there earlier. We gotta crate train these pups, man. Let's get them early.
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Anna Vaccino
Yep.
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Adam Carolla
Cause they won't give us a hassle. Yeah.
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Anna Vaccino
I mean, that's the whole point of them doing race education in, like, young, like, third graders telling the white kids about their guilt sex ideology.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. It's really. I wish any of it worked. I think if any of it worked, I would be down with more of it.
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Anna Vaccino
Worked in which sense?
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Adam Carolla
What does it mean? Like, five years ago, it was defund the police.
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Anna Vaccino
Oh, right.
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Adam Carolla
And it's been five years. And if somebody said, you know, we took the Minneapolis Police Department, we pulled them way back, and we ended up saving the taxpayers, you know, millions of dollars each year, and we implemented community policing, and violence went down and car theft went down and domestic beatings went down, I'd go, okay, good. Yeah, but it's never that.
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Anna Vaccino
It's always the opposite.
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Adam Carolla
It's always. Yeah, it's always the. The district select woman who spearheaded the defund the policing just got jacked at the park.
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Anna Vaccino
By night, by the way, is amazing, too. That was something I was watching during COVID which just felt like you reap what you sow in, like, unbelievable real time. Like, usually it takes years. These. I remember there was, like, one very left politician in New York City who was advocating for criminals to have no cash bail. And it's sad. He got stabbed and killed by a criminal in the middle street. And his, you know, girlfriend from wherever the heck she was from just watched it and then said she didn't want to press charges because she didn't want to enforce racial stereotype. I was like, yeah, you reap what you sow. It was kind of unbelievably amazing.
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Adam Carolla
That's funny that you brought that up, because I was saying to Dr. Drew about six months ago, I go, bad policy used to take a decade to really wash over us. Like, they'd go, Prop 13, the property taxes or something, and then it'd be years later where we'd go, we got screwed by Prop 13. Who's the guy? Oh, he's dead. You know, whoever, governor whoever. He retired six years ago or whatever. It is. Like, it took a long time for bad policy to fuck us up. Now it's kind of real time. Like, go appoint this horrible DA to your city. Crime starts immediately. Violence goes up, and, you know, defund the police or bad COVID policy. Like, it is real time. Bad results. Which used to take a long time. Covid was 10 minutes ago. And now all the kids that were locked down for two years are mentally ill. Like, it used to take a study.
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Anna Vaccino
I know.
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Adam Carolla
Follow the guy for 30 years, you know, now it's like, oh, no, we screwed up in real time.
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Anna Vaccino
I think, you know, again, I am a little bit more conspiratorial and spiritually minded. I do think that's God being like, here you go. You're going to see it in. You can't even ignore this. There can't be even any plausible. Plausible deniability. I'm going to show you. It happened exactly right away. Like, there was. I forgot. Who's that? Comedian. Heather something. When she was on stage.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah.
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Anna Vaccino
And she was like, I got triple boosted or whatever. And she's like, I guess Jesus just loves me more. And immediately she's like, hit with a stroke. And I was like, all right, yeah.
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Adam Carolla
I didn't see that.
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Anna Vaccino
Let's. Heather McDonald.
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Adam Carolla
Heather McDonald.
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Anna Vaccino
I don't. I don't remember what her.
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Adam Carolla
She collapsed. It's Heather McDonald, and she would collapse, middle act, right after saying that.
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Anna Vaccino
Literally, she says that statement and she goes, oh, oh. And everybody's, like, freaking out, and she hits the floor. She hits her head.
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Dawson
Are you saying God came down from heaven and gave her myocarditis?
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Anna Vaccino
No, I think God was letting people. The repercussions of people's actions happen in a much faster timeline.
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Adam Carolla
She bonked her head on the stage. It was. It was bad.
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Anna Vaccino
And I'm not, you know. Yeah, there you go.
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Dawson
Oh, my God.
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Adam Carolla
We'll play. We'll put the sound up, by the way. Sound. Thank you, brag.
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Leonarda Joni
I don't care, but I want you to know, double vaxxed, booster flu shot. And I'm gonna be honest. I have the shingle shot, too, and I still get my period.
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Adam Carolla
What?
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Leonarda Joni
Yes. Traveled. Went to Mexico twice, did shows, meet and greets. Never got Covid. Clearly, Jesus loves me the most. Seriously. So nice.
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Adam Carolla
So nice.
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Anna Vaccino
Here we go.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, all right. That was crazy, right?
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Dawson
That was pretty bad. Yeah.
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Anna Vaccino
Right after she immediately. He, like, lets her say her whole speech.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. Oh, God, yeah.
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Dawson
Oh, but are we giving you.
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Adam Carolla
What about all those times God knocked you out? Mayhem?
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Dawson
Never did. Never got knocked out.
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Adam Carolla
You never got knocked out?
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Dawson
Not once, bud.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, sorry.
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Anna Vaccino
I've. You Know, I've, you know, I've experienced it myself where I say something stupid or whatever and then immediately, like a little later that day, I'll, I'll get the repercussions.
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Dawson
She got no standing, ain't count nothing. But she's flat out. Oh, yeah, I hope she's okay, but.
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Anna Vaccino
Man, I think she's okay.
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Adam Carolla
She's so. She's okay.
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Anna Vaccino
But there she was and it's like, it's like revelation. Right away you say, okay, great. This is, this is actually what it looks like when you get, when you get all those shots.
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Adam Carolla
Just get you with the left hook. By the way, very funny. Standup. You were rocking that at the end. I think you went on right before me.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, right before you.
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Adam Carolla
And I was like a little bit nervous because, like. Oh, I was backstage. I don't have my finger on the pulse of comedy, of stand up comedy. I know less names, less people, less background, less history, less controversy. Everyone's always like, you know her, she's, she's getting canceled. But she's so, she's so out there. She's fired from a cannon. Man, this crowd. And I was like, oh, is she gonna just rock these guys for 15 or 20 minutes and then I'm gonna have to go out there.
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Anna Vaccino
They loved you. That was no problem for you. They loved you. I think I might have been a little too over the line for somebody.
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Adam Carolla
It was pretty crazy. But they loved you. And then I was sort of backstage and other comedians were like, yeah, Leonardo's been, She's been canceled. She sold out shows. They canceled comedians. Always the saddest thing I always said, I said during COVID I said, when you got the comedians, now you got everybody and comedians giving real serious sanctimonial speeches about this stuff. I was like, oh, you're comedian. The comedians called some of the clubs you were booked at and sold out at, right?
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Anna Vaccino
Yep.
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Adam Carolla
And got them to cancel the show.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, it was a whole coalition across from like Boston to California. I'm not even kidding. And it's people that nobody knows because I had like big name comics who know me. I mean, this was going on and I had. In the middle of getting canceled, I was featuring for Russell Peters and he was like, it's funny. He's like, I only think they're coming after you like this because you're actually funny.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah.
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Anna Vaccino
Like, he's like, if you weren't funny, nobody would care.
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Adam Carolla
No, it is true. You pose a greater threat when you're actually good.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah. And I'M going up against all the propaganda that's been shoved down our throats for, I think at least the last 30 years, which I myself had swallowed, by the way.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, I was going to ask what is there a trajectory for you? Because a lot of people, especially younger ladies, attractive ladies, they start off this way.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, very left.
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Adam Carolla
You went to college?
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, I went to college. You know, I went to a Jesuit university. I went to Fordham, which is great school. And they weren't like that. Especially when I went. This was a longer, you know, many years ago before this whole thing happened. But I still came out a bit more left. That wasn't really it. I was living in New York City and I was with a bunch of, you know, girls who just kept going more and more left. And you don't really notice that you're kind of going with the ocean. You know, the ocean's taking you out. You don't notice it. All of a sudden you realize you're in too deep. And that moment for me was, you know, I was in a 12 step recovery program and they had a women's only meeting and which made sense because we had some things that we had to deal with as women that made our addiction what it was. So that was a space to talk about it.
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Adam Carolla
What was your drug of choice?
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Anna Vaccino
I was a compulsive overeater. You know, some haters would say I still am, but my mom was.
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Adam Carolla
My mom went to OA too.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, it was actually horrific. Like, people think it's kind of funny, but I literally wanted to kill myself before going in because it just. It just occupied. I felt like I didn't know there was a recovery program for it, but one of my friends was an alcoholic and he went into recovery for aa and then he told me his story and I was like, everything you just said you do with alcohol, I do with food and dieting. So I was like, let me get that book. I started reading the book. I started crying because for the first time I was like, there's somebody else who. There's other people who experience what I've experienced. This is addiction. And then I was just going to go to an AA meeting because I didn't know there was any OA meetings. And I just looked up 12 set meetings and at the bottom was Overeater Anonymous. And again, I just started weeping. I could not believe at that point in my Life, I was 23. I thought, I'm the only person who does this with food. It's so shameful and disgusting. I'm Pathetic, horrible human being.
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Adam Carolla
What was it that you were doing? If you don't mind.
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Anna Vaccino
I don't, I don't mind. It was a total body obsession. And you know, you, you try to like, you know, you feel all this pressure. Especially, you know, at that time we didn't have all this fat acceptance, so you really had to be skin.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah.
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Anna Vaccino
And it wasn't just like normal. They're always with girls minds, by the way. And at this point it was like the super anorexic was the look, you know, and there was no, I mean, look at me. There's no way I was going to be that. So I would do with the way it started me, I would start these like really extreme diets. Like I'd be running six miles a day and drinking nothing but like this master lemonade thing, which is like, oh yeah, lemon water, cayenne pepper and a little maple syrup. So yeah, I remember losing crazy amounts of weight, not being able to maintain that because your body reacts and then going on crazy binges. Just stuffing yourself past any point of scent.
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Adam Carolla
Being able to sense your weapon of choice in the binge.
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Anna Vaccino
Sweets, Cake, ice cream, cookies. And they would always start with this obsession about something. Like, I remember one time I was in college and all of a sudden I got into my mind that I needed this particular cheesecake from a particular place in New York City. Now it's the middle of a snowstorm, it's a blizzard, and I go outside my dorm and I see these people smoking outside. And I was like, addicts. Meanwhile, I get. I go from the Bronx, get on the subway, ride an hour train in the middle of a blizzard. So I could go to this one store to get a particular cheesecake. Because you have this. The unconscious thing is it's going to solve whatever issue you have. Like once you get that. And it's all about like feeling a sense of your own power. Like, I can do this. When you don't feel power in all these other areas and then getting it and then immediately hating myself and going, well, now since I've already done this, I might as well eat all like, you know, 3,000 calories of shit.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah.
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Anna Vaccino
And that was my life for. Since from 16 to about 24. And by the time I got to the end of it, it was so horrible that I thought. And I was fat at this point. I was fatter. I was like 227 pounds hot. Thank you. The black guys thought so. And I was like, I don't care if I never lose another Pound again. I cannot live like this. If this is what I have to face for the rest of my life, I'm going to kill myself. And then I found that, that, that was. There was oa.
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Adam Carolla
What do they teach you at oa?
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Anna Vaccino
So they teach all different kinds of things. You know, it really started to get poisoned near the end where it started becoming fat acceptance. And if you wanted to lose weight, it was clear that your disease was acting up again. I was like, this is called Overeaters Anonymous. We're here because we're fat.
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Adam Carolla
Right.
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Anna Vaccino
You know, but I had a great sponsor. He was a older black guy in his like 60s who had been over 600 pounds and was maintaining almost a 400 pound weight loss at 230.
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Adam Carolla
Al Roker was your sponsor?
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Anna Vaccino
Yes. And he would do the weather sometimes during our 12. But he taught, he taught me harm reduction.
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Adam Carolla
Carson Daly taught me how to love, by the way. I don't know if you know that.
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Anna Vaccino
He taught me harm reduction. You know, I heard him sharing in a meeting. He said, you know, I knew I had recovery when, you know, my sponsor said to me, okay, what are you eating? And he's, I'm eating two whole fried chickens, two buckets of fried chicken. And his sponsor said, hey, do you think you could eat one bucket and be okay? And he was like, actually, yeah. And that's, that was what I started. So I was like, I'm eating a whole cake. And he'd be like, do you think you could eat half a cake and be okay? And I was like, actually, yeah. And then you start to get kind of more normal.
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Adam Carolla
I've been saying this to people for a long time, like, and it's not attractive, but I would say to my friends, like, they go, oh, I'm going to quit smoking at the first of the year. You know, And I'd go, why don't you just. What are you smoking now? Like a pack a day. All right, there's 20 to pack. Yeah. Why don't you just knock it down to 15 a day and see how that works? No, no, I'm doing the first. I go, I don't know. But meanwhile, you could just knock it down and it's really unattractive. That kind of, it's like pragmatic. It's not fun. If it was a movie, it'd be super boring and it's just no good. You and the cayenne with the lemon juice and the stuff. I've had so many fucking conversations, especially the women that go, I'm Gonna order my bone broth diet. I go, how about you just fucking tone it down with the eating a little bit and move a little bit more. No, no. Monday, I start with the.
- [28:02]
Anna Vaccino
And I'm like, it's the flip side of the obsession. That's why.
- [28:05]
Adam Carolla
Right, right.
- [28:06]
Anna Vaccino
It's the flip side of the assumption.
- [28:07]
Adam Carolla
Right. You're trying to fix something with some weird alchemy, and it's more of the same. It's just in the other direction.
- [28:15]
Anna Vaccino
Cause you're still obsessed with food on the other side.
- [28:17]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. You're now obsessed with some weird diet that you have to subscribe to that'll show up at your door.
- [28:22]
Anna Vaccino
You're doing that. You're thinking about what you're gonna eat when this ends and how you're gonna get that.
- [28:27]
Adam Carolla
Right. Right, right.
- [28:28]
Anna Vaccino
It's way different to be like, you know, I'm gonna have a piece of cake once a week on Sundays in the afternoon. And you go, oh, well, I could live like that.
- [28:37]
Adam Carolla
And you will then. And you can actually enjoy the cake that way, too, instead of sort of obsess over it.
- [28:43]
Anna Vaccino
So not sexy, but saved my life. Yeah. Saved my life.
- [28:47]
Dawson
Hey, cheat day. You just eat whatever you want. Yeah. And then the rest of the time.
- [28:51]
Anna Vaccino
That would never work for somebody like me.
- [28:53]
Dawson
Oh, really?
- [28:53]
Anna Vaccino
Because my brain just go. If you give me a day where I could just eat wherever I want, then Monday comes around. I go, what? I can't. I can't stop.
- [29:01]
Dawson
You're going to cheesecake bender.
- [29:02]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah. And it's. It's insane. But. But what happened was, in this recovery program that had been so important, that had saved my life, politics started to slip in.
- [29:11]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [29:12]
Anna Vaccino
People. People started sharing about how they were so distraught that Trump had won. And I put my hand up because I wasn't pro Trump at that point at all. I was actually anti Trump. And I was like, hey, you're actually jeopardizing people's recovery. Like, lives are on the line here, and you're talking about stuff that actually isn't relevant. And the thing that got me, that really got me is I was in this all women's program, supposed to be all about, like, women, everything. And then trans women started coming in.
- [29:39]
Adam Carolla
Oh, boy.
- [29:40]
Anna Vaccino
And I was like, I hadn't quite confronted that. I had been just sort of swallowing because I knew there was no benefit to me stepping out across this tribe of women right there. I was going to be put. I have a target on my back. Right. But I felt inside, I was like, this isn't right. He never got a period.
- [29:59]
Adam Carolla
Right.
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Anna Vaccino
He doesn't know what it's like for your hips to come in and then all of a sudden your body dysmorphia to start. Maybe he's got his own stuff, but this isn't it.
- [30:08]
Adam Carolla
Right, right.
- [30:09]
Anna Vaccino
And it kind of broke me. And then once that broke, where I finally got, I was like, I don't care what I remember, just remember this moment ago. I don't give a what they say. That's a man. I don't care how many people are saying this. I'm done. I'm done pretending. And it was like vomiting stuff that I had swallowed. And it started the unraveling where I started investigating things and started seeing how much the media lied to us and started seeing, like, you know, I, I'm not, I have my criticisms of Trump's policies. I do. But at that point I realized he wasn't this demon they were making him out to be. And I realized what he was doing was going up against a 40, 50 year machine that was pushing the country in a certain direction. And he suddenly was speaking up and making people feel like they weren't alone. Because the big thing is not just to push the propaganda, but because there's going to be people who see through it to make you believe you're pretty much in the minority and you don't have a shot in hell fighting this.
- [31:05]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's effective. I mean, like I said.
- [31:09]
Anna Vaccino
But he showed people that that wasn't true and that's a threat to the system.
- [31:14]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. It's funny, I realized that I always flashback on this conversation I had with Tucker Carlson, God, seven or eight years ago, and he just was interviewing me here, and he said, when's it all end? And I said, when we stopped apologizing, just stop apologizing. And now go from not apologizing to ridicule. And that's when it started. You have to ridicule these people. You literally have to make fun of them. And it works pretty effectively. And now we're getting, we're going from the not apologizing phase to the ridicule.
- [31:49]
Dawson
Welcome to the show.
- [31:50]
Adam Carolla
Yes. And here we are. But they're also. Their stuff is so easily ridiculed.
- [31:58]
Anna Vaccino
But it's always been easily ridiculed.
- [32:00]
Adam Carolla
I know, but everyone was scared. Well, first off, sister, 30 years over here, I, during COVID did not go along with the plan. I ridiculed the plan and called everyone pussies.
- [32:16]
Anna Vaccino
Great.
- [32:17]
Adam Carolla
Absolutely. And I was on the offense. And Dr. Drew would say, I don't get why you have to be insulting. Like, why can't you just disagree and say, I don't think it kills healthy young kids and not. I would end everything with, hey, sheep, get under the bed, pussy. Everyone was your pussy. I called everybody a pussy. And because I realized it wasn't enough to just sort of backpedal a little bit and go, let's just let bygones be bygones here. You have to go forward. Because all they do is encroach. All they do is move forward. It's not enough for them that they get vaccinated. They need you vaccinated. Then if you don't get vaccinated, you need to get fired and you need to be removed from your livelihood. And it's like, I realize it's bully behavior. The bully beat down. Man knows. Just covering up in the corner. You're still gonna get punched. You gotta start throwing.
- [33:16]
Anna Vaccino
I think you're full.
- [33:17]
Adam Carolla
And I went 100%. I called so many people sheep, so many people pussies, so many people cowards. That's all I did.
- [33:26]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
- [33:27]
Adam Carolla
All through Covid. And it was not easy sledding.
- [33:30]
Anna Vaccino
No.
- [33:30]
Adam Carolla
People hated me.
- [33:31]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah. No, I believe that. I mean, I went through that. I lost a couple of social media accounts because I was calling it out, and I was calling out people who were. I was also calling out people who were complying by having fake vaccine cards and going to things. I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. You cannot give this to them. Let them suffer from you not showing up.
- [33:50]
Adam Carolla
Up. Right.
- [33:52]
Anna Vaccino
And then I. I had started the ridicule before. It was cool. I was making fun of all these women who were transitioning their children.
- [33:59]
Dawson
Oh.
- [34:00]
Anna Vaccino
And that stripped my first account.
- [34:03]
Dawson
Dropped you for that.
- [34:04]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah. Instagram or Instagram and Facebook. It went into the gulag. And then I'd go appeal it on Instagram. And I was like, no, sorry, you have to appeal it on Facebook. And then I go appeal it on Facebook. And they'd be like, this account doesn't exist here. If it's an Instagram account, try to go to Instagram. And it was.
- [34:18]
Adam Carolla
So you bring up a lot of this in your comedy. I don't know. Again, there's comedy that's harsh. I mean, tough. And that's fine. There's jokes about 9, 11 and stuff like that. There's a lot of jokes that are tough jokes, which are fine. I mean, historically, it's been that way. I don't know why or when it became okay or acceptable to police Other people's comedy, which is another left thing, which I've definitely. I've had comedians come on. I've had guys come on after my set and talk about my set, which is fucking insane, because I would never. I would never. Marc Maron did that to me at the Comedy Store. Like, I don't agree with Marc Maron, but I would never go on after him and start getting in, breaking down.
- [35:19]
Dawson
His reaction video on stage.
- [35:21]
Adam Carolla
Yes. I was like, but you have to be a pompous ass, because basically it's. Listen, you think this way, I think that way. By the way, I'm all ears. You tell me what I got wrong about COVID Tell me what I got wrong. Cause I've been yelling about this for years. Tell me what I got wrong. I'm not wrong. So not only are you making fun of my shit, but I happen to be correct. But fine. But I would never dream of policing your set. And I certainly wouldn't dream of calling the manager of Magoobie's joke house and telling him to cancel you. I wouldn't even think to do it. But I wouldn't think to tell you to put on a mask if I was walking by you on a trail. All these things. I wouldn't key your Tesla. It's none of my business. Yes.
- [36:06]
Dawson
So you think it's a whole crew of comics that got you canceled?
- [36:09]
Anna Vaccino
Oh, I know. I know it is. Yeah. Because they were. They were bragging about it. They were launching their campaign. They were putting it up on their stories, and they just.
- [36:16]
Adam Carolla
They didn't like your material.
- [36:18]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah, they didn't like my material. Also, I'm pretty edgy on Twitter. I say real edgy stuff to provoke people. I mean, it's the thing that works on Twitter, you know? Yeah. And they don't have the guts to do it. And a lot of what I say is pretty true, so that really pisses them off. But they were. Michael Rappaport called one of the clubs. I just called him out for it because I know the club owner told my agent, you know, he was like, I can't have her. Because now Michael Rapaport called and said, hey, if you have her on, I'm not going to do your club anymore. And I'm going to make sure that none of my friends do.
- [36:50]
Dawson
Why? Because you said, death to Israel.
- [36:52]
Anna Vaccino
I did. I hadn't yet, but it was. It was. It was. He already didn't like me calling out things that I didn't like about Israel's foreign policy, their policy, and Then it just took a couple of edgy tweets for him to be like, I now have the leverage I need to get her off.
- [37:08]
Dawson
Canceled.
- [37:09]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah. And he's, you know, these are people, you know, he's a leftist who's now saying, like, oh, he kind of likes Trump. Why? Because the tide has turned so much, and now you want to jump ship. No, no, no, no, no. Go down with the ship that you built. But a lot of these people. What I think the issue is is that, number one, this is what I noticed. So I went and looked at some of these people. I got death threats from some of these comedians who told me they were going to stomp me out, calling me out on this stuff, talking about how I'm, like, a racist. That's the number one, like, mortal sin you can commit in our globalist society, by the way.
- [37:42]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [37:43]
Anna Vaccino
So I went and looked them up, and virtually every single person I looked up had a criminal record.
- [37:51]
Adam Carolla
Really?
- [37:51]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah. Had a couple of them had warrants out for their arrest. They had drunk driving, and one of them was a stripper who's calling me immoral. And I go, you literally show your. For money to men you don't know. Do you think that you have.
- [38:06]
Dawson
That's just on Wednesday.
- [38:07]
Anna Vaccino
Do you think that you have? So then I realized, because I really couldn't understand this. I'm like, how could you have that level of hypocrisy? And then I understood, because when you do like that, that you actually. I think every human being does know what's right and what's wrong, even when they're committing it. You know, you actually are morally unjustified. You know, you're doing bad things. But a lot of nobody can actually think. No. Who thinks that they're a bad person. There's nobody who thinks they're a bad person.
- [38:31]
Adam Carolla
No, sadly, leave it up to me. I'll tell you who's bad.
- [38:34]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah. And then they want to. In order to reconcile themselves to the idea that they're still a good person, they have to find someone that they consider way more morally reprehensible than them.
- [38:44]
Adam Carolla
Yes.
- [38:45]
Anna Vaccino
And the system already gives them a narrative that's real easy to do. And I play the heel a lot in comedy by being that person. That's kind of how I kind of provoke people, is being the heel, even though I'm actually quite nice to people outside of that. You know, I make fun of fat people a lot on stage, but obviously I have a lot of compassion because I fucking was super fat, you know.
- [39:05]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, that way with smart people. I make fun of smart people all the time.
- [39:09]
Anna Vaccino
Because you're really smart.
- [39:10]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, same thing.
- [39:12]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah. So they have a prescribed track that gives them an. All of a sudden they're going from being this immoral person who is beating up their wife or drunk driving or selling their asshole, take the elevator express because I'm going to jump on the ship of calling out this racist, anti, semi homophobe, whatever they want to throw at me. Right Then all of a sudden the whole social structure will award them with ribbons.
- [39:39]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I think it's an interesting time we're living in because we're obsessed with safety but also calling everyone a hero. And everyone is strong and everyone's a hero and everyone's fighting, everyone's fighting. No one's fighting. Like mayhem fights. Not like I used to fight. We used to fight, you know, no one's fighting anything. You standing in front of a Tesla dealership on a Sunday, it's not you fighting anything. It's you with like minded idiots doing nothing. And so we're fearful. People are scared as shit. I mean, people are just pussies. They are fucking scared. I don't know what's going on, but they're, they're. I think it's from sort of not growing up like handling tools or handling yourself or getting into situations. You know, people are super safety, crazy, paranoid, fearful. But we still have some sort of Disney version of ourselves like that I'm a hero and I stood up, but with no repercussions. Like, okay, you called Trump a tyrannical dictator and you told him to suck your dick online. But you know, nothing's ever gonna happen to you. Now if he really was a tyrannical dictator and you told him to suck sucks dick online, then he would take you to a gulag somewhere, chain you to a radiator, and you'd be beaten in darkness for the next 20 years. So they don't actually believe it and they don't fear it. But what I'm saying is, hey, ballsy guy, how about you start talking shit about Islam? They're down, they're fucking. They're scared shitless to say anything about Islam because Islam will Charlie Hebdo you. They will come over there and fucking. Yeah, go ahead, make fun. You make fun of every other religion. Go ahead and do Muhammad. Oh, you won't. Cause you're fucking coward. They make fun of the shit that they know no one's ever gonna do anything. They do all this virtue signaling.
- [41:43]
Anna Vaccino
Well, it's Easy virtue. It's easy.
- [41:45]
Adam Carolla
It's easy. But I'm saying, if you actually do things like you are engaged in behavior that is a little risky, you go out and race a car or roll with some mma, jiu jitsu or what have you break a sweat, like, you do something, you go whitewater rafting down a steep, you know, waterfall or something. If you really do that, you don't really feel the need for this stuff. These people sit at home and they're trying to sort of justify themselves, and it's real easy to attack comedian, whatever. You would not talk shit that. Let's put it to you this way, there guys and guys historically, that if you talk shit about them, would actually come over, beat the shit out of you.
- [42:37]
Anna Vaccino
Mike Tyson.
- [42:37]
Adam Carolla
Mike Tyson, yeah. Fuck with him on an airplane, he's gonna tune you up. Okay? But it's real easy to just make fun of this politician or that comedian or whatever virtue signal in front of everyone. And meanwhile, you get. You get plaudits from your tribe and nothing ever happens to you.
- [42:56]
Anna Vaccino
Right? It's easy. Virtue, there's no risk and it's all.
- [42:59]
Adam Carolla
Reward in your mind, except for it's empty calories, man. I don't. I don't get the empty calories.
- [43:05]
Anna Vaccino
That's why they need more and more of it, because I guess you're right.
- [43:08]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [43:08]
Dawson
They're over there with their thumbs, getting their adrenaline up. Yeah.
- [43:12]
Adam Carolla
Yes.
- [43:12]
Anna Vaccino
But, you know, you're right about that because these were grown men who were sending me death threats. Threats. Meanwhile, there are actual male comedians who've said exact same things I've said and worse. They were able to play those clubs no problem. Anthony Rapaport didn't call the club and say, if you have these people on. Yeah, sorry, Michael Rappaport.
- [43:30]
Adam Carolla
Anthony, though, would work. Okay. Yeah. I mean, you get Gina Carano fired from her Disney show. Like, okay, hero. You're such a hero.
- [43:40]
Anna Vaccino
Why didn't you get the guy who was the Nickelodeon producer who was a known pedo? Why didn't you get him fired?
- [43:47]
Adam Carolla
How about you pipe up about Weinstein or you're worried about your next job, bitch, so shut up.
- [43:52]
Anna Vaccino
None of them were talking about Weinstein. None of them when he was in charge. But afterward, all of a sudden. All of a sudden, Right.
- [43:59]
Adam Carolla
So it would actually take some huevos to talk shit about Weinstein when he was running Hollywood because it would affect you directly.
- [44:08]
Anna Vaccino
Right?
- [44:08]
Adam Carolla
And that's what we call character. But not saying a word the whole time he's doing all that he's doing that you're aware of because maybe it happened to you or maybe it happened to your girlfriend or whomever. You know the stories. You say nothing cuz you want your next job. Then he gets called out and then you pile on, which is perfect. It's just coward on top of coward activity.
- [44:31]
Anna Vaccino
I think you're absolutely right. There is this obsession with safety, which is so ironic because we live in such a safe society. Everything is so safe and we are obsessed with that. And I do think some part of that also comes to like a lack of faith. You know, everybody's like trying to live forever because we just believe that it's nihilistic at the end. Right. There's nothing there.
- [44:51]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [44:52]
Anna Vaccino
So why would you. You got to try to preserve your life for as long as you can under that situation.
- [44:57]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I think, I think a lot of it is connected to lack of religion and faith and things like that.
- [45:04]
Anna Vaccino
Religion teaches you to fight for higher values. It says there are values that are more important than preserving your life. We don't have that philosophy anymore.
- [45:16]
Adam Carolla
No, not at all. And we're calling everybody's a hero and then everyone, the rest of them are victims, even though nothing really happened to them. Like, it's interesting, Somewhat troubling times.
- [45:33]
Anna Vaccino
You know what's so crazy is like the positions that I have where I'm called like a radical extremist. These were the dominant positions for human history for thousands of years.
- [45:43]
Adam Carolla
Yes.
- [45:44]
Anna Vaccino
It's only in the last 50 to 60 years that actually we've adopted a radical extremist. I don't even know what I would put this in leftist liberal philosophy that goes counter to every instinct in humanity. I mean the, just take the, the feminist movement of I don't need no man. Yeah. When you're living in the safe society that men already built that is policed by men who will protect you from the consequences of your own actions. Okay, then you don't need no man. But that's not been the dominant philosophy of women for thousands of years. Thousands of years.
- [46:26]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And basically it's screwing them up too. I1 I absolutely think are such a mess.
- [46:32]
Anna Vaccino
It's screwing them up. I mean, I've had these kinds of conversations with like female comedians who are like pursuing comedy. I'm like, it's all great, but let's, let's put everything in the hierarchy of value system. I'm like, what's the real truth about what you want? Let's say you could just wave a magic wand. You get to the Top of your career, you're super famous, you got everything. But you don't actually have a family. You don't have somebody who loves you. You don't have this thing to ground you. And suddenly they get it. And I go, so that's not actually your highest value to be the most successful comedian you can be. You'd like to do some comedy, but your deep core stuff is to find somebody to be with, have a loving relationship, have a family. Maybe you'll do some comedy with that. That's the truth. For most women, that is our core drive.
- [47:17]
Adam Carolla
Well, we, we, they have attempted, sadly, to talk women out of what they need and what they do, which is.
- [47:27]
Anna Vaccino
A really cruel joke, and shame them when they admit that that's what they want.
- [47:33]
Adam Carolla
Right. So the plan is take the women and basically talk them out of every instinct they've ever known throughout humanity.
- [47:40]
Anna Vaccino
Yep.
- [47:41]
Adam Carolla
And then we'll take the boys who are six years old and roughhousing on the back lawn and we'll tell them to stop, stop doing that. And that's bad. Right. So we'll try to get the boys to stop doing what boys do and we'll try to get women to stop doing what women do. And then they will kill themselves.
- [47:58]
Anna Vaccino
Right.
- [47:59]
Adam Carolla
That is basically. Or they'll shoot up a school.
- [48:01]
Anna Vaccino
This is.
- [48:02]
Adam Carolla
Or they'll trans themselves and shoot up a school. That's how it happens.
- [48:06]
Anna Vaccino
This is why I say, I think it is actually an evil ideology that is motivating these people. It's an anti life, anti human ideology. That, that is rooted in a deep, deep resentment, I think, of God and his creation. That's what I think.
- [48:22]
Adam Carolla
Well, I'm a little simpler in that whatever was, whatever existed, however our society worked there or against. So if the woman stayed home and took care of the family and cooked and cleaned and the guy went off and made money and brought.
- [48:42]
Anna Vaccino
Which sounds great, by the way.
- [48:44]
Adam Carolla
By the way. I have no idea when that became a slap in the face. I'm still waiting, waiting for some bitch to tell me to stay home while she just goes out and brings home the bacon, you know, and we took all that was, you know, we go, look, people want a car because they have freedom. They want a home ownership and they want traditional religion and roles and responsibilities and so on and so forth. And we went, get rid of all of it. We're all going to live in one of these miniature towns and you're going to live on top of the person that's going to live on top of you. And you'll take mass transit and the woman is going to work. The guy's gonna work or the woman's gonna work and the guy's gonna stay home, but they're not gonna have kids. And it fucked everyone's shit up. It is. You are going against. Look, if I essentially, if I took a marlin and I was like, marlin, what do you do? I cut through the water. I swim 50 miles an hour. I'm shaped like a torpedo. You go, okay, okay, that's bad.
- [49:47]
Anna Vaccino
You're not gonna do that.
- [49:48]
Adam Carolla
We gotta bring you up on land now and have you kind of hang out on the beach a little bit. The fucking marlin would kill itself. Yeah, it would kill itself. We'd go, and every time it got scooting through the water, it'd be, slow it down. Slow it down. Marlon. And you two swordfish. Not that I even know the difference, but bring it down. We have a maximum three knots. You cannot. The thing would start picking on itself. It would get fat, it would get depressed. It would watch too much marlin porn.
- [50:15]
Anna Vaccino
It would have cats as pets.
- [50:16]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. It would have ca Pets. And it would eventually go down to protest Elon. And a Tesla dealership would start screaming like an unhinged marlin.
- [50:26]
Anna Vaccino
It would eventually cut its sword nose.
- [50:28]
Adam Carolla
Off, cut its short nose off, Put it through its nose first.
- [50:30]
Dawson
It would tuck the sword nose off.
- [50:32]
Anna Vaccino
That's true.
- [50:32]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. So it's like in nature now, look, if you threw an owl in the ocean and said swim, but the owl would be miserable. You know what I mean? Like, there's different roles and I agree, different proclivities and guys do what guys do and women. But if you start trying to talk everyone out of what they do, I mean, if you basically you go, you're at a barbecue like it's a Gillette commercial, Toxic man commercial. You're at a barbecue and there's a couple of six year old boys, like, staying around while the dads are drinking beer and tending to the grill. At some point they start wrestling. That's what they do. That's what I did. That's what you did. I mean, I just wrestled. We didn't have video games. Everything was a headlock. And it was always funny because whenever my friend's mom would come home, she'd always walk in and go, why is the furniture all moved? She could tell the furniture had been moved, but it was always. We'd knock it over and slide the sofa back and wrestle or whatever. And then at some point, we tried to get everything back in place. But the mom would always go, all right, something. What were you guys doing in here? Well, we were fucking wrestling. I mean, that's, that's, that's what guys do, right? And so if you had a bunch of people come up there to go, hey, hello, none of that. No, no, no, go play nice. Go inside and play nice.
- [51:54]
Anna Vaccino
That's what they do though.
- [51:55]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, well, then the guys would start fucking, going nuts and acting out, being fucked up and being addicted to stuff. And so this never ending quest to get the sexes to either stop doing what they're supposed to do or become the other sex. It's gonna have real consequences.
- [52:13]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah, they did that. You know, my, my little brother, half brother's about 16 years younger than me. And when he was in, I think it was like kindergarten or first grade or whatever he was playing on the schoolyard. And this kid, this other kid, he's climbing up the monkey bars. His kid pulls his leg and makes him fall. So my brother turns around, punches him square in the mouth. That's what you should do, right? You fuck around, find out out the teachers are like scolding him. Yeah, I know he made a mistake. But you don't do that. It's like, no, that's exactly what you do. Because then that kid isn't gonna pull somebody else's leg and potentially hurt them.
- [52:45]
Adam Carolla
Absolutely. 100.
- [52:46]
Anna Vaccino
I do think this is a problem. You know, I love women for what we are. We're very compassionate and empathetic. But if it's unchecked by masculine, you know, discipline and consequences, it's unhinged and nobody gets it. That's why you have this, you have an overly feminized culture that, that sympathizes with the criminals but not the victim. Oh, but then he's going to spend his whole life in jail. He killed someone, right? That's the least thing that we can do.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, well, he doesn't have to spend his whole life in jail. We could kill him.
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Anna Vaccino
Right, but that's why I said him spending his life in jail is the least we can do.
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Adam Carolla
No, I know. Look, it's. We fucked women up pretty badly starting, you know, it's been a few years, but I used to say it to Dr. Drew all the time when I was doing lovelines. Like I said, we're fucking up women. We're telling them, do whatever you want. Don't you let any man ever tell you. It's like, yeah, everyone should be told something by somebody early and often. And you're not anyone's seamstress. You're not anyone's chef, you're not anyone's maid. You don't have to do. And it's like, well, bitch, you better get a job as a lawyer then if you don't want to do all that shit. And then we'll use your money and we'll pay it to the seamstress and the chef and the maid. But you can't just do nothing.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, I'm with that. Like, I'm pretty bad at cleaning, pretty good at cooking, so I pay somebody to clean my house.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, but you earn money.
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Anna Vaccino
I do earn money, you know, and if I. But because. Because I earn money, I don't have the energy and time to put into cleaning, and I don't like it.
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Adam Carolla
Well, my feeling is. Look, I. Whatever it is, you. You first off, like, Michael Jackson couldn't. Well, he did two things, but he did one thing that got him money, which is.
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Anna Vaccino
I don't think he did the second thing, but that's all right.
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Adam Carolla
Well, he sung and he danced. He didn't need to learn how to change the oil in his family cruiser because it would have been a waste of time for him to do it. I still think he would have had a better, more fulfilled life if he did spend weekends changing the oil on his truck. Like, I think that might have saved him the mundane kind of tasks of life, doing your own thing. You know, there's just a difference between a mom cooking her kid breakfast and you guys going out to breakfast.
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Anna Vaccino
Of course.
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Adam Carolla
You know what I mean?
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Anna Vaccino
Having a maid come and do it. I mean, that's why a lot of these kids will get attached to the nannies.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah.
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Anna Vaccino
And that's. That messes them up.
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Adam Carolla
But if you are working and you make money, then I would suggest just like dentistry, you pay a professional to do certain things, but keep in mind as much of the mundane as you can do. Like, as much of the cooking or that. I'm gonna wash my own car. I'm gonna go organize the garage this weekend. Like, as much of that as you can do will keep you sane. And that's. We have outsourced everything. I mean, dog walkers. Walking your dog's about the sanest thing you can do that will keep your ass sane walking a dog. The fact that half these women don't even have jobs and are outsourcing to a dog walker, it's kind of ugly American shit, by the way. Yeah, I know it's a little bit.
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Anna Vaccino
Gross, but it's ugly. Like upper Earning. And then it's again, I think it's people trying. People really don't want to be a part of nature. They don't want to think of human beings as an organism that's grounded in nature. They need to be, be outside of that. And I think it all goes back to, like, not wanting to deal with, we are going to die.
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Adam Carolla
Yes.
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Anna Vaccino
So if I have a dog walker, I don't have to be this loser, you know, human who's got a walker dog. And then I'm not gonna die. I mean, it's, it, it, it is that. And I do think that a lot of this, they try to separate themselves from the plebes. All the plebs have to walk their dog or the plebes have to watch their own children. And I'm like, you know, you can outsource certain things. I agree. You're not going to be able to outsource the bond that you're supposed to have with your children. That's not going to happen.
- [56:56]
Adam Carolla
I mean, well, you can try. I mean, I agree. No, look, I think, I think you're.
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Anna Vaccino
Going to mess up your kids, and I think you're going to mess yourself up, actually.
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Adam Carolla
The sad thing is, is if you're, you know, when you talk to a kid who loves his mom or appreciates his mom and, or dad, but mom especially, they'll go, what was your mom's dish when you got a boo boo and you didn't feel well, or you had to stay home or it was raining outside, what would she make? And the ones that have the good relations with mom will bring up this chicken soup. Whatever my mom made. But if you're bringing up what the nanny made or what the grubhub guy brought over, that's, that's, that's a break in a relationship with a mom.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah. There's nothing, I mean, there is nothing more emblematic, I think, of a mother's love than when she makes a meal and feeds her child. She's literally sustaining life.
- [57:53]
Adam Carolla
But not the whole cheesecake, just one slice.
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Anna Vaccino
How about you don't judge me?
- [57:58]
Adam Carolla
Too late. That's all I do.
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Anna Vaccino
Okay. How about that?
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Adam Carolla
So is it going good now? Because you're real funny. Stand up and in. The worm has turned a little bit like the guy. They all, you know, the guys that were taking a thumping during COVID being called racist. And I was one of those people that they tried to beat on during that period. It's better now.
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Anna Vaccino
It is better. But I will tell you that I Think we still have a lot of cowards who run venues and as soon as they get a little bit of. Of anything.
- [58:33]
Adam Carolla
Yes.
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Anna Vaccino
They just give in.
- [58:35]
Adam Carolla
Right.
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Anna Vaccino
Which is pretty pathetic to me because I think it's exactly like you said. All that would need to happen is for you to say, yeah, we're not doing that, and hang up the phone.
- [58:45]
Adam Carolla
Right.
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Anna Vaccino
And then not take any more calls. Let them cry, let them say how they're going to call everybody and all that and just ignore it. And I promise you they will go away. Yeah, what's. Here's the difference though. All these people who did this, they're not going to be anything, I can guarantee you, because I've seen their comedy, it's horrible. And they have a little commune where they all agree they're going to be horrible together and then that's how they're going to make it. It's not going to happen. But I'm actually doing something. And if you think I'm not going to remember every single place that canceled me, you're out of your mind. And if you think I'm ever going to bring my business to you, you're also out of your fuck. And let me tell you what happened to all these places that canceled me. I had a sold out show in Pottstown, Pennsylvania, 250 people, which I don't have a huge audience, so that's pretty good for me. I'm five years into comedy. It's pretty good for me. They canceled me. So what did I do? I found a firehouse, a volunteer firehouse that had a hall that I could rent and I brought those 250 people to his hall and he was so grateful and he was like, I love your comedy, you're funny. Also, anytime you want to come back, do it. So now I took approximately 10 to $15,000 of revenue that that guy could have gotten and brought it to somebody else. So you didn't win. None of those comics who called me got my stage time or got my revenue. What did you earn? You didn't earn anything. I still got paid actually more because I had a better deal with this guy. This guy made money and my fans became more die hard because they saw that I wasn't willing to go down without a fight. And here's the thing, for me, it's like, yeah, I'm fighting for my right to free speech, but I'm also fighting for these people's right to have the kind of comedy that they want. You're not just silencing me, you're telling 250 people that they shouldn't like what they like. Who the fuck are you?
- [60:52]
Adam Carolla
I agree. And what I want to say to these people all the time is when they're out demonizing you or me or anybody. Well, I disagree with you as much as you disagree with me. More so, Yeah, I got two kids that are 14 that are languishing at home because you shut the schools down. And I'm. I'm lobbying to get the schools reopened and you're yelling at me. Imagine how I feel about you.
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Anna Vaccino
Yep. And your philosophy is a philosophy of death. My philosophy is a philosophy of true freedom. To set people free from these oppressive systems that have infiltrated their minds and allow people to make the decisions about what they want to listen to, what they want to go to. You vote with your money. Your philosophy is a philosophy that says if you don't come over to my side and treat everybody with kid gloves, every lunatic with kid gloves and, and advocate their made up identities, not only do you. Are you a bad person, but you deserve to get your money taken away. Basically, you deserve to die. And your system is a system of oppression and death. Because what are they advocating? They're getting these kids to chop off their genitals. I mean, hello? Hello? What are you talking about? So these people have the actually more. The. Well, the actually morally objectable position. Communism has killed more people than any other philosophy in the world. It is insane to me that people can openly pronounce themselves as communists and they do not get at least as equal of a vitriolic reaction as somebody who would say that they're a Nazi. That's insane to me.
- [62:35]
Adam Carolla
Well, Stalin's body counts a lot higher than Hitler's body count.
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Anna Vaccino
This is what I'm saying thing. We should live in a society where if somebody is a communist, they should be terrified to be public about it because it is a philosophy of death. Communism actually has a philosophy that says, hey, if we have to kill people along the way to establishing our utopia, that's okay.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's so funny. It's insane that Bernie Sanders has a rally and you know, 8,000 people show up like, you want to hear what this old commie coot has to say?
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Anna Vaccino
Insane. And I'll say this. All of these places, you know, you, you better believe that you are leaving a negative taste in the mouth of all of these people who wanted to come to your venue and see something they wanted and you just told they couldn't have it.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, not Bernie. But you were talking.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, yeah.
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Adam Carolla
So how's it going now?
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Anna Vaccino
So I'm. Do I do these shows now? Wait. Basically what I had to do is book off the beat venues that are not connected to any businesses. So you can't call anyone. So maybe somebody's got a hall, maybe somebody's got, you know, know, an auditorium and they're just. And you just rent it out, pay a rental fee or, or a lot of times they'll take the drinks and I'll just take the door and keep it as a secret location. You have to buy a ticket to get the location. And buying a ticket's not enough. I actually run an AI screener on these people who bought tickets. It screens the whole Internet to make sure that they don't have any kind of like liberal affiliations or anything like that.
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Dawson
Wow. A lot of footwork there.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, well, I have to do it because they will, they will buy these tickets, try to get the venue and either call the place and try to get me canceled day of. Or show up and, and, and try to heckle or whatever, and then the people will get the location. Most of the people are good, but one person, I had bought a ticket recently to one of my shows and then ran the AI thing. And what came back is he had written about a toxic work environment. And I was like, yep, you can go. You're not, you're not going to be at the show. Yeah. So the stuff is good. It's going good for me because I have my own fan base who finds me on social media, who's very committed, who's very die hard, and they know what I'm dealing with. And they like. It's more than that. They like the comedy. That's the thing. Like, it's like I could say all this stuff and if I'm not funny, if people don't have a good show, they're gonna be like, yeah, we support you. But you know, at the end of the day, they're coming for comedy. Comedy.
- [65:02]
Adam Carolla
Right.
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Anna Vaccino
So they support it. They're getting what they want. And so I, when I, when I launch these shows and I launch these secret venues, they do tend to sell out. Now, they're not huge venues. I'm not that big yet. But for me, I feel grateful. I'm like, this is enough for me. And, and so I can do that. And that's basically what I'm doing. You know, if you go on my website, you know, leonardoisfunny.com it has all my dates. You click it, it's gonna say, hey, she's gonna be in Nashville. It's a secret location. You'll get the location the day of.
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Dawson
Fight Club.
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Anna Vaccino
That's the way it is. You know, that's what I have to do right now, because these people are still very vocal. They're very, very vocal. They want to paint their thing. Their go to with me is to paint me as a Nazi. White supremacist.
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Dawson
Yeah. Where are they getting this from?
- [65:47]
Adam Carolla
I don't.
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Dawson
I didn't see anything that, like, was like, oh, my God, she's a Nazi.
- [65:51]
Anna Vaccino
Well, because they want to. As soon as you are outside of the left paradigm, you're automatically a Nazi Nazi. That's it.
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Dawson
Oh, really?
- [65:58]
Anna Vaccino
So. And if you say anything that advocates for white people, you're a white supremacist. Meanwhile, you have people who are actually black supremacists. No problem.
- [66:08]
Adam Carolla
No, they say the most horrific. Jasmine Crockett.
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Leonarda Joni
No problem.
- [66:13]
Anna Vaccino
You could be on public TV like that.
- [66:15]
Adam Carolla
I know. I. It's. And they say, like, crazy. Oh, God, what was her thing? Just like. Well, they're like, if there's a. If there was a black woman in that room, maybe. Maybe one have. The rocket wouldn't have blown up or something like that. Like, everything is race. By the way, they're race hustlers.
- [66:30]
Anna Vaccino
Oh, I know they're race hustlers. I 100% know they race hustlers, so. Or they'll set me up. They framed me for a thing where they had supposed white nationalists come to one of my shows and hand out flyers after they didn't even show up. They just staged a photo and said that that happened. But these clubs don't care. Yeah, they sent them the thing. They were like, this is what's happening. I can't believe you're having this. And these people are cowards. Boards, and they cave. So I will not be doing those venues. I don't do any comedy clubs anymore, except maybe the End. Everything I do is a secret venue, private venue, and that's how I tour. That's what I do for comedy.
- [67:07]
Adam Carolla
How'd the end thing come about?
- [67:09]
Anna Vaccino
Because all those guys who run the End and everything, like, they're kind of like, I am the rebel. The real rebels of comedy who've gotten canceled for things who are outside the mainstream. And, you know, they. They liked my comedy before I moved here. And so when I came to visit, they had me do some shows with them. Like, Sam Tripley was on. You know, Sam's like another one that they always like to categorize that way Right. And we got along. So, you know, the guy who was producing the show said, hey, Adam Crow is in the show. I'd like you to come feature for him. I think you're a perfect fit. And I was like, yeah, Hell, yeah. You know, I liked what he was doing during Coven and stuff, so. So let's do it. You know? And that's how that happened.
- [67:50]
Adam Carolla
It was fun night.
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Anna Vaccino
It was fun. It was fun. And I. I enjoy all those opportunities. I mean, I did Roseanne's podcast recently. We hit it off because, again, we have a lot of the same ideology. And she's like, yeah, you're saying all the things that you're not supposed to say. That's why they're mad at you.
- [68:06]
Dawson
She's pretty good.
- [68:08]
Adam Carolla
She's for. I mean, Roseanne is way out there.
- [68:12]
Anna Vaccino
I don't care. I love it, man.
- [68:13]
Adam Carolla
I love it, too.
- [68:14]
Anna Vaccino
I feel like when you become old, you should go further. You got nothing to lose. You're facing the end of your life. Say it all, because all the young people need you to. And you're supposed to have the wisdom. You know, you've been. Been around for a long time. Say it all. You should become. If you're old and you're. You're going to, like, a Presbyterian church with a lesbian bishop, you've messed up.
- [68:39]
Adam Carolla
I agree. But the part that I find vexing is that when I see all these protests in the street for Tesla and stuff like that, average age seems to be like, 64 and a half or something. Like, I'm seeing women that are 65, 75 years old. Guys are like, 75 years old. They're gonna break a hip protesting.
- [69:02]
Anna Vaccino
See, Isn't it better to be a Roseanne in that?
- [69:04]
Adam Carolla
I agree. And I'm like, what the fuck happened to you? And it's also. It's kind of sad. You're like, you spent your whole life fighting an invisible dragon.
- [69:16]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
- [69:17]
Adam Carolla
With a popsicle stick, thinking you're a hero with, like, a helmet made out of tinfoil and a cardboard shield. That's like. It's sad.
- [69:25]
Anna Vaccino
Hey, I have a helmet made of tinfoil. Chill out there.
- [69:28]
Adam Carolla
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Anna Vaccino
Crime is up 37%. And it's not just the minorities. Even people with down syndrome have their own gangs now. You've all seen them. They call themselves antifa.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
Leonardo Joney is on the Adam Carolla show.
- [72:35]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's scary. They don't like people with a sense of humor going after them because humor really cuts quick and it reveals just.
- [72:44]
Anna Vaccino
How dumb their ideology is. Is.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, it's Very revealing. And you can pontificate all you want about something like a couple years ago, like Covid origins. Is it a wet market? Is it a lab? Lots of conjecture and lots of pontificating. And then Jon Stewart goes on Stephen Colbert's show and in like 80 seconds, turns everyone around, makes them laugh and gets them to go, oh, yeah, of course. And that's using comedy. And that's why it's scary when you lose comedians to them. Especially because we talked about ridicule now being the most effective. All right, what do you got, Mayhem?
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Dawson
Well, Musk shares a mind blowing chart showing millions of non citizens given Social Security number under Biden. Yeah, Elon Musk shared the chart during a get out the vote rally in Wisconsin over the weekend which claimed showed millions of noncitizens received Social Security numbers during President Joe Biden's tenure.
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Adam Carolla
Well, you have to kind of wonder with everything. You go, hey, man, we want you to close this border. And they go, yeah, man, it's complicated. You know, you go, well, hey, who's. The Borders are like, Kamala Harris, have you been to the border? Well, we've been to the border. You've been to the border? Well, not the border. I went to the bookstore.
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Dawson
Borders.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
But I did not go to. And it's sort of like. It's like at a certain point, as I bring up almost every day, you have to ask yourself, what do they want? Cause they're not doing anything.
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Anna Vaccino
Oh, they're doing something.
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Adam Carolla
Well, yes, they're not doing anything that would suggest they want the border closed. You gotta. You got border guys on horseback waving the reins around, and you're saying they're beating Haitians at the border. You got a guy. Okay, so here's what I'm saying. Simple thought experiment.
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Dawson
All right?
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Adam Carolla
Democrats, Biden and Kamala Harris. You want the border stout, right? You want a good, safe, effective border. You don't want people coming up, right? No. Right? No. Okay. Why are you suing Texas for putting up razor wire to stop people from coming across the border? Oh, no, I want a good border. How come everything you do is against that if that's what you want? Like, if you take guys, there's no such thing as a horny guy who's like, I want to go out and get a fucking whore tonight. And then you go, marty, it's been two hours. Where are you at? I'm taking my pre whoring neck. And you go, all right, well, then what? I've been in the shower for two hours. Like, I Want some pussy? It's like, do you, though? You've not. It's been three days now. You've not left the house.
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Anna Vaccino
Marty's gay.
- [75:38]
Adam Carolla
Marty's gay. Like, at a certain point. Don't listen to him, watch him.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah. It's called gaslighting.
- [75:44]
Adam Carolla
Right. And when guys are horny and they do want to go out and get some companionship, they're fucking. They'll walk through a plate glass window to get to it.
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Anna Vaccino
They'll go through a blizzard to get a cheesecake.
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Adam Carolla
Right, right. No, when you're into it, you know, but. But it's true. Like when you're into what you're into. But you wouldn't talk about cheesecake for year in and year out. Have you. Have you been to the Cheesecake Factory? I haven't been to Europe either, but that doesn't mean it's like you fucking will be at the Cheesecake Factory eating cheesecake, not talking about it every year and never going there. Right.
- [76:22]
Anna Vaccino
Yep. Well, they want them in, they want to dismantle.
- [76:25]
Adam Carolla
I think that's what it feels like at this point. Yes, because they want voters and also they want the census demographic as well, even if they're not voting, so. Yeah, but why wouldn't you.
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Dawson
Yeah, he said that he found this by. They were mapping the whole system of Social Security, including where they found a lot of people over 120 years old.
- [76:52]
Anna Vaccino
So have they arrested anyone who.
- [76:54]
Dawson
Yeah, that's the big thing, that there's fraud. It seems like that they're finding fraud, but I haven't heard of one person arrested for said fraud yet.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, that, that. See, that's when people are really going to change. When you actually start arresting the people responsible for this who are committing the fraud, then there's an incentive because right now the people who are doing this, politicians or whatever, they again, have only gain. Yeah, they can make money. Somebody could bribe them, all this and if they get caught. But there's no loss, right?
- [77:22]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Well, I mean, I think Biden pardoned Mayorkas. You gotta look it up.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, he did.
- [77:30]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, he did. So he pardoned everybody.
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Anna Vaccino
What does that tell you? Why would you. You wouldn't need to pardon an innocent man.
- [77:38]
Dawson
Listen, I'll take a pardon if I can get one.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, no chance of that. Well, they would say because of retribution and Trump's. What they do is they. They build the false dragon that is Trump, and then they go, why did you pardon your son? Because the fake dragon would come after him. Now, what I've said A million times. You don't have to pardon me for killing Nicole Brown Simpson. Because if you said, let's get Adam and let's lock him up for killing Nicole Brown Simpson, I'll go. What night was it? Yeah, I was in La Crescenta with my roommates watching Jeopardy. Like. Like you can interview them, check for DNA. Like, if I didn't do anything, if it was just nothing, you know, like if you're just, you know, let's just say Hunter Biden just did nothing. He just. Normal son, just hung out stateside, just worked at a. You know, he worked for 3M making post it stickies or something. Well, then what could Trump really do?
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Do you know what I mean? Like, there's this weird fantasy is just gonna go scoop him up and throw him in solitary confinement. But really, what could you do if there's nothing there? Or is there a bunch of there there?
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah. And the other part too is you have to remember they know that they just have to give their hordes a bit of a narrative to help them, because otherwise it becomes very clear, like, why are you pardoning someone who didn't do anything? And in order to keep the hordes there and not having to, you know. Cause they know they got these hordes, gotta go out and fight these battles with the plebs. So they just give them a narrative and you'll hear them all parrot it back, right? And you'll see it. They all like, download the software and then it comes right out and you're like, you're so predictable. It's insane.
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Adam Carolla
It is very predictable. And the interesting time we're at now is we took a break on the social justice. We took a break on the race hustling for just 10 minutes, and we went right to the class hustle. These billionaires want to give money to their billionaire friends by throwing grandma out in the street and getting her off Social Security.
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Anna Vaccino
So there's the narrative, right?
- [79:52]
Adam Carolla
They shifted from race because it's always race, race, race, race, race, nonstop race. And there was like a memo. And overnight it all shifted to class. Start calling everyone billionaires and buddies. And then some sort of weird thing where Elon is trying to look into Social Security so he can give his billionaire buddies a tax handout. By the way, the tax handouts. Paying less in taxes is not a tax handout. Like, if I'm.
- [80:27]
Anna Vaccino
It is if I'm entitled to your money.
- [80:29]
Adam Carolla
Well, yeah, but if I go to a movie theater and popcorn is $17, and then at some point they go for you, carolla, it'll be $8. That's not really a popcorn handout. That's just. I'm not getting butt fucked about the popcorn. Like, I'm not being gouged in the popcorn department. It's still my money. I'm still giving you my money. I'm giving you a lower percentage of it. And the popcorn's free for the rest of the fucking people in the movie theater, by the way. So it's not exactly a handout.
- [80:59]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
- [81:00]
Adam Carolla
All right, sorry, go ahead. Mayhem.
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Dawson
We got some more news. Prince Andrew accuser, Virginia Jeffrey says she's in a hospital after a car cr. With the school bus. This prominent Jeffrey Epstein accuser, alleged Prince Andrew abused her, is in serious condition in a hospital after a school bus hit a car. She was in driving in rural Australia.
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Adam Carolla
Well, just because Prince Andrew was driving the school bus doesn't mean that he was trying to silence her. I want. You know. I know his critics will point to that.
- [81:31]
Dawson
Yeah. She, you know, here on Instagram, she said that she'd gone into kidney renal failure. They'd given me four days to live.
- [81:40]
Anna Vaccino
Which is a bit odd, don't you think, that it's that specific?
- [81:43]
Dawson
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
- [81:46]
Adam Carolla
So she accused the prince of getting at her when she was underage, Correct?
- [81:52]
Dawson
Yeah, Said that. He absolutely denied it. And the funny thing about this is that the Western Australia Police. Police reported that there was a minor collision between a car. Bus. A car and a bus.
- [82:06]
Adam Carolla
Well, she was a minor at the time. He got to her. He gave one of the greatest interviews ever. Remember Dawson when he was being accused of all this? Like in a sit down and he was explaining he doesn't sweat. Cause he had a. Fought in a Falklands War and grenade went off too close to him and he stopped sweating. I wish I had that. I sweat a lot.
- [82:29]
Anna Vaccino
Wasn't he sweating during the interview, though?
- [82:32]
Adam Carolla
No, that's why I believe it. Because someone puts a light in a camera in your face and accuses you of being a pedophile and you're bone dry.
- [82:39]
Anna Vaccino
Well, that's pretty good when you're one of the elites. You've had a lot of training with that. I don't know. She's got a picture. I believe it.
- [82:47]
Adam Carolla
Oh, Maricus did not receive a pardon from President Joe Biden, by the way. FYI. Yeah, so also when the chicks are young and skinny and blonde, it's. It kind of hurts your case when you're arguing about not being attracted to them.
- [83:05]
Anna Vaccino
Right.
- [83:06]
Adam Carolla
You know, and you're cuddled.
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Dawson
Up right next to him.
- [83:09]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [83:10]
Dawson
Hey. He said that he never did anything, but Prince Andrew intends to make a substantial donation to Mrs. Oh, yeah. Jeffrey's charity in support of victims rights.
- [83:20]
Anna Vaccino
A substantial donation of two bullets.
- [83:23]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Yeah. All right.
- [83:25]
Anna Vaccino
Doesn't that sound like a guilty man? He's trying to be like, look. Look how good I am.
- [83:29]
Dawson
Totally. He's giving her a bunch of money despite saying, nope, I didn't do it.
- [83:34]
Adam Carolla
I'll tell you what's always guilty. What's always guilty is, like, you rent somebody your condo or something, and then at some point you come back and the throw rug is, like, ripped. There's a big rip in the middle, and you go, that thing was almost new when you moved in, and now it's got a big rip in the middle. And they go, I didn't do. It was that way when I got there. And then you go, it was definitely not that way. I bought it, rolled it out. Then you moved in the next day, and that was a big rip in the middle. And they go, I didn't do it. But, okay, I'll split the cost of it. It's like, you do not split. If I came out of a supermarket and someone said, you, shopping cart dinged the side of my minivan, and I'd go, I didn't. I never. I just walked out. And they go, well, I'm accusing you of that. I wouldn't go, so let's split the cost of that. I'd go, fuck right off. Like, I'm not splitting the cost of something that I definitely didn't do. I'm not cutting a check to the Wayward Women's foundation if I never touched this bitch.
- [84:33]
Anna Vaccino
That's right. Spot on.
- [84:35]
Adam Carolla
Well, we got the Can't Sweat video. It's a good one.
- [84:39]
Anna Vaccino
So you're absolutely sure that you're at home on the 10th of March? She was very specific about that night. She described dancing with you and you profusely sweating and that she went on to have baths possibly.
- [84:54]
Adam Carolla
There's a slight problem with. With. With. With. With the sweating, because I. I have a peculiar medical condition, which is that I don't sweat, or I didn't sweat at the time. And that was. Oh, machine. Yes. I didn't sweat at the time because I had suffered what I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War when I was shot at. And I simply. It was almost impossible for me to sweat. And it's only because I have done a number of things in the recent past that I'm starting to be able to do that again.
- [85:36]
Anna Vaccino
He said he's able to sweat now. Just in case you see him sweating.
- [85:40]
Adam Carolla
I feel that way about loving again. Like I was so traumatized that I just couldn't do it. But I'm working on learning to love again. All right, all right.
- [85:50]
Dawson
Here's black dad knocked for leaving his kids at McDonald's to interview for a job.
- [85:56]
Adam Carolla
You know, I was like, I started reading this, I was like, screw that. I was looking for a job. You know, it's a brother looking for a job.
- [86:02]
Anna Vaccino
Come on, he's. Listen, he's doing two things people don't do. He's racist, raising his kids and looking for a job.
- [86:08]
Adam Carolla
That's right.
- [86:08]
Dawson
Yeah. Yeah. Georgia man was recently arrested for leaving his kids at McDonald's so he could go job hunting. Chris Lewis left his three children at a Augusta area Mickey D's. Why Job was also, don't put a.
- [86:21]
Adam Carolla
Slide in a Ronald McDonald Fun House and a ball pit. And you know, half those places have kids.
- [86:27]
Dawson
That's exactly right.
- [86:28]
Adam Carolla
You leave the kid on their place.
- [86:31]
Anna Vaccino
Kids. Oh, one. One of the kids is one. That's kind of. That's a little shady.
- [86:35]
Adam Carolla
That's why you have the nine year old in charge. Yeah.
- [86:38]
Dawson
Ten year old, a six year old and a one year old. Yeah. They're left inside. Somebody got nosy and called the cops.
- [86:45]
Anna Vaccino
Black men cannot rise above. This is why they have. Because the system. Look at what they do. They. The guy's trying to go get a job and they. They get it.
- [86:53]
Adam Carolla
It's viral.
- [86:54]
Dawson
Now somebody's giving this guy a job.
- [86:55]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Just because he pronounces it MacDonald's doesn't mean. Yeah, it does not. I don't know what it is with Black people and McDonald's, but it's not. It's like axe and ask. Like for some reason, no one ever tunes him up and goes, it's just called McDonald's. Like, it's not old MacDonald had a farm. It's old McDonald. It's just. It's a different thing.
- [87:16]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah, it'd be pretty funny if he went to a. If he was going to another McDonald's to apply for that.
- [87:22]
Dawson
One doesn't have a play place.
- [87:24]
Adam Carolla
I will say that if it had a play place and you have a 10 year old and this thing in your head is under an hour, you can tell the 10 year old, look after your brother and your sister, whatever. Have fun in the ball pit. Here's a French fry. I'm hustling out to put in an application. I don't think that makes you. I don't think that makes you a bad dad.
- [87:49]
Anna Vaccino
I think the 1 year old's a little close. Like 10 year old. It depends on the 10 year old if they're mature enough to take care of a one year old.
- [87:54]
Adam Carolla
I'm trying to think. I started babysitting when I was like 13, I guess.
- [88:01]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah, but you were changing oil on cars. It's a little different.
- [88:03]
Dawson
That's right.
- [88:04]
Adam Carolla
That's right. I own my own McDonald's in the neighborhood. I miss the urban McDonald commercials from back in the day where everyone is black.
- [88:14]
Anna Vaccino
Oh, yeah, they do it well now every commercial, everyone's black.
- [88:18]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, but we used to do, see, back in the day, the white commercials were throwing a couple of token blacks into the mix. Just a couple of croutons on top of this white salad there. But the black commercials, it would be weird if there was one ginger standing there at the counter. Right? So they would do the old urban one and they sung the song and they would call it McDonald's.
- [88:43]
Anna Vaccino
Oh, that's funny.
- [88:45]
Adam Carolla
And I don't think it's offensive to say like, look, if I said, oh, that singer, Whitney Houston. You could say Whitney Houston. Like you could say to me as a black man, it's Whitney Houston. You keep saying Houston. It's Houston. It's not MacDonald. Heather McDonald. She's not Heather MacDonald.
- [89:07]
Anna Vaccino
That's true.
- [89:08]
Adam Carolla
Not that they know who she is. But the point is, it's your name. You got to say it to guess it the way it's said. Just call McDonald's.
- [89:18]
Dawson
Yeah, you're right.
- [89:18]
Adam Carolla
Old McDonald's. All right, let's see. First McDonald's breakfast commercial targeting black Americans in 1971. 1979. All right, here it is. Do we have that?
- [89:35]
Anna Vaccino
Mama wants to get to church.
- [89:37]
Adam Carolla
She's been waiting up since st. She.
- [89:41]
Anna Vaccino
Wishes I would hurry up and get some breakfast on, but after working hard.
- [89:48]
Adam Carolla
All week, I'd like to get my rest.
- [89:51]
Anna Vaccino
So we head, head for McDonald.
- [89:54]
Leonarda Joni
Just as soon as we get dress.
- [89:56]
Anna Vaccino
Scrambled eggs and sausage and hash brown. They're not getting to church. Tell you this right now is good for everyone.
- [90:07]
Leonarda Joni
Fresh and hot, cooked just right, top.
- [90:10]
Adam Carolla
Quality and the price is light.
- [90:13]
Anna Vaccino
Breakfast at McDonald's.
- [90:15]
Adam Carolla
McDonald's.
- [90:16]
Anna Vaccino
My family. And since we're gonna get to church on time, Mama.
- [90:25]
Dawson
I like.
- [90:26]
Adam Carolla
I love the all black McDonald commercial.
- [90:28]
Anna Vaccino
I miss when we had black families.
- [90:30]
Adam Carolla
Yes.
- [90:32]
Anna Vaccino
Now it's just everyone's broken up, you.
- [90:35]
Dawson
Know, but see, we know root of Mac Donald. They signed off on that. It was on the show.
- [90:41]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
- [90:41]
Adam Carolla
You know what I mean?
- [90:42]
Anna Vaccino
You can't. You can't fault them. If the. You know, coming down, everybody gotta call.
- [90:45]
Adam Carolla
It like a wall. It didn't. But didn't one of the guys from the big ad agency go, look, It's.
- [90:52]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah, a bunch of black actors.
- [90:56]
Adam Carolla
Call it what you like, but that's not what it is.
- [91:00]
Anna Vaccino
Wow, those pancakes look pretty good. See, there's my inner family.
- [91:04]
Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah. It all looked good.
- [91:06]
Dawson
It did. Yeah.
- [91:08]
Adam Carolla
That was 79. They had a black MC.
- [91:10]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [91:11]
Adam Carolla
McDonald's.
- [91:12]
Anna Vaccino
Black McDonald's.
- [91:13]
Dawson
Black Donald's.
- [91:14]
Adam Carolla
Black Donald's. I own my own Black Donald's in the neighborhood. Okay.
- [91:20]
Dawson
Hey, I got a wild tweet here. Here's a video on X. Woman faced backlash after complaining for being seated between two overweight passengers on the plane.
- [91:31]
Adam Carolla
I have very strong feelings about this. It's an older thing, I think, but it's unearthed or something. But we can. I think there's film of it or tape of it or something.
- [91:40]
Dawson
There's video. Yeah, video from.
- [91:41]
Anna Vaccino
As a former fat person, I want to say you have every right to discriminate against fat people. We're doing it to ourselves.
- [91:49]
Adam Carolla
Well, I mean, also, you've got to. You. Well, let's just show the tape. You can't have two huge people and expect someone to take the middle seat. Seat. An airline passenger stuck in the middle seat resorts to fat shaming her seat mates.
- [92:04]
Leonarda Joni
Oh, my goodness.
- [92:05]
Adam Carolla
I don't know how I'm gonna do.
- [92:06]
Anna Vaccino
This next four hours.
- [92:08]
Adam Carolla
It happened just before takeoff on a United Airlines flight from Las Vegas to Newark, New Jersey. Norma Rogers, an oncology nurse who once appeared on the doctor she ate at McDonald's one too many times episode, was seated next to the fat shamer, the nurse's travel companion aisle seat. Rogers flagged down a flight attendant.
- [92:28]
Anna Vaccino
Yes, me. Can you find her another seat? Because I will not be verbally abused by this or anybody else. I can't sit here because it's both.
- [92:37]
Leonarda Joni
So fake on left and right.
- [92:39]
Adam Carolla
I can't. I can't even stand. The flight attendant offered the fat shamer a new seat. Hold on a second.
- [92:45]
Anna Vaccino
See how they're. You said they're making her the perpetrator.
- [92:48]
Adam Carolla
You. You, who does some diet and some exercise, are sitting in between two tubacoos. And.
- [92:54]
Anna Vaccino
And she's the problem, by the way.
- [92:56]
Adam Carolla
Right. She's the fat chamber. This is who we're attacking in our society. Those airline seats are made for 185 max.
- [93:06]
Anna Vaccino
All right, all right.
- [93:07]
Adam Carolla
You're hitting a little close to that 195, max. They're not made for £400. They're just. They're not. But neither is the roller coaster at Magic Mountain. Like, hey, you can eat your way out out of certain things. You know what I mean?
- [93:24]
Anna Vaccino
That's correct.
- [93:25]
Adam Carolla
And if you have one on one side and the other on the other side, you are not. There is no loose sight that you're pressed up against. It's. You are slopping into the next seat. That's gravity.
- [93:38]
Anna Vaccino
You're literally in my seat.
- [93:39]
Adam Carolla
You're in. I purchased a seat. I purchased a seat, and I know spaces. The seats. Visually, those seats are like 18, 19 inches wide. Like, Max. They're not. This is. This is 24 inches. They're not 24. They're 21 or they're 19 or whatever they are. If you got 3 inches encroachment on the right and 3 inches encroachment on the left, you're taking up 30% of my seat. I bought that.
- [94:08]
Anna Vaccino
Just math.
- [94:08]
Adam Carolla
It's all just real estate. You buy real estate on a plane.
- [94:12]
Anna Vaccino
Why didn't she buy. You know, since she and her fat husband were going to be sitting together, why didn't they buy the middle seat? And then they wouldn't have had this problem. And then she. Do you see how they have to do it? Because they've been emboldened by this media that tells them that they should never be ashamed of anything and they're entitled to everything.
- [94:27]
Adam Carolla
Right? You're killing them.
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Anna Vaccino
She's verbally abusing me, by the way. You're actually abusing me with your fat body. And you're. She's verbally abusing me. And then even the news. The fat shamer. Oh, I wonder if that news guy would like to sit in between two tubular.
- [94:43]
Adam Carolla
I like to do it.
- [94:44]
Dawson
I just snuggle right up and go to sleep.
- [94:46]
Adam Carolla
All right. Sorry, there's a couple seconds left.
- [94:48]
Anna Vaccino
I gotta also say, being on a plane with Indians who fart all the time. I'm not a fan of this. Not a fan of this.
- [94:55]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [94:55]
Leonarda Joni
So fake on left and right.
- [94:56]
Adam Carolla
I can't. I can't even stand. The flight attendant offered the fat shamer. Fat shamer. The woman gets up, she delivers one more insult.
- [95:05]
Anna Vaccino
Oh, yeah.
- [95:05]
Adam Carolla
I itself. Other prosecutors were outraged.
- [95:10]
Leonarda Joni
Why don't you.
- [95:13]
Adam Carolla
I love that everyone's outraged.
- [95:14]
Dawson
Making a lot of good points.
- [95:16]
Adam Carolla
I know.
- [95:17]
Anna Vaccino
This was just the norm. This is what I'm saying. Like a few Years ago, this was just the norm. This is how you would talk to fatties?
- [95:22]
Adam Carolla
Yes, the audience. I love that. The other passengers were outraged. Go fucking. You sweat your ass off sitting in between those two.
- [95:30]
Anna Vaccino
Again, Easy virtue. They don't have that. You know.
- [95:33]
Adam Carolla
Listen, here's the deal. Said it once. Say it a million times. Forget about weighing your luggage. Weigh. You weigh your luggage. Bring as much lard in your ass as you want, pack as much shit in your bag as you want, but you will be charged. When you go, remember those places that had the salad that you weighed back in the day? You load up, and then you weigh them. Oh, yeah. And at the end, you can spend a lot. You can spend 26 bucks on a salad if you load it up. But if the guy behind you is going light, then his is like $9. But what, you want to live in a world where you go, that guy loaded up, he's 26 bucks. You want light, you're nine. Why don't you both pay $19? It's like, no, that guy's. That guy weighs that much. That's what he weighs. They do it with your bags.
- [96:25]
Anna Vaccino
Yep.
- [96:26]
Adam Carolla
Do it with you. Just everyone weighs in. Everyone weighs in.
- [96:29]
Anna Vaccino
You're going to have a lot of women crying.
- [96:31]
Adam Carolla
See? See, I've argued this a lot. Yes, but women. Mayhem, what were you at max peak capacity?
- [96:41]
Dawson
185. I was, like, 185.6.
- [96:45]
Adam Carolla
That was. That was max fitness capacity.
- [96:47]
Dawson
Oh, yeah.
- [96:49]
Anna Vaccino
That was my fitness weight, too.
- [96:51]
Adam Carolla
Max load.
- [96:51]
Dawson
280.
- [96:52]
Adam Carolla
280.
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Dawson
I was £100 off my fight weight before.
- [96:56]
Adam Carolla
What? Look, women are catching up. But men traditionally weigh 50 pounds more than women.
- [97:02]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah, not me. Sorry.
- [97:04]
Adam Carolla
So, all right. But even Mayhem would weigh more than you.
- [97:08]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah, he would.
- [97:09]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- [97:10]
Anna Vaccino
And even at peak. 280. You are actually 50 pounds more than me at peak.
- [97:14]
Adam Carolla
Okay.
- [97:15]
Anna Vaccino
227 at peak.
- [97:17]
Adam Carolla
All right, so you both. You're fighting weight. Heavyweight. Was that weight. Okay. Why shouldn't Mayhem pay more than you, is what I'm saying.
- [97:26]
Anna Vaccino
Well, he's not gonna spill into my seat.
- [97:28]
Adam Carolla
And women who go, whoa. Women aren't gonna like this. But if the average woman. What is the average woman weighing? Her.
- [97:36]
Anna Vaccino
175 pounds. And she's size 12 and five. Four or five. Five.
- [97:43]
Adam Carolla
Really?
- [97:44]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
- [97:44]
Adam Carolla
Is that average?
- [97:45]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah, they're pretty fat now.
- [97:46]
Adam Carolla
That is sad. But if that's true, the average dude is still bigger.
- [97:50]
Dawson
Oh, yeah.
- [97:51]
Adam Carolla
So women would pay, on average, less for their airline ticket than men. And you. You Wouldn't subsidize us is what I'm saying.
- [97:59]
Anna Vaccino
There'd be a lot of people spitting into a cup right before stepping on the stair.
- [98:02]
Adam Carolla
I'd have the guy, my trainer, hold the towel out in front of me because I get naked.
- [98:07]
Dawson
Drop your Tony.
- [98:08]
Anna Vaccino
Gotta take your shoes off. Everyone knows that.
- [98:10]
Adam Carolla
Take your shoes off. Take your shoes.
- [98:11]
Anna Vaccino
Make sure you go to the bathroom. If you're lucky, you get to poop before you step on the scale.
- [98:16]
Dawson
Stand on your head. Yeah, I know all the tricks.
- [98:18]
Adam Carolla
Stand on your head. Yeah. What's that do?
- [98:20]
Dawson
Yeah, put all the blood in your head and then lean over.
- [98:23]
Adam Carolla
Oh, move your fat noggin off to the side.
- [98:26]
Anna Vaccino
That's a. I'm gonna try that.
- [98:28]
Adam Carolla
I'm try that too.
- [98:30]
Dawson
Got me out of trouble before.
- [98:32]
Adam Carolla
All right, Dawson, what does the average woman weigh? Is it really 175?
- [98:36]
Anna Vaccino
It might be a little more than that, actually.
- [98:38]
Jason Mayhem Miller
One second. I had it. Let me get it back.
- [98:42]
Adam Carolla
All right, more. And five, four.
- [98:44]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Did he say 170.8 pounds? 20 years of age.
- [98:49]
Adam Carolla
20.
- [98:51]
Anna Vaccino
She's like a size 12, right?
- [98:53]
Jason Mayhem Miller
40 to 59 year olds weigh 176.
- [98:57]
Adam Carolla
Wow.
- [98:57]
Anna Vaccino
So I was pretty good.
- [98:58]
Adam Carolla
You're right there.
- [98:59]
Dawson
Geez.
- [99:00]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And the average height, in case you wanted, is five foot four.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, that doesn't bode well. That is not good. What's the average dude weigh, though? We'll see how much we can save you on these airline tickets. Because it's gonna be more. It's gonna be more. And wouldn't it be nice then you could pack an extra £40 worth of luggage for free, essentially. All right, I'll let you find that. Dawson. Anna's out there. So speaking of fat, she'll figure out a way to keep you from getting fat. We'll talk to her in a second. United States average man age 20 is 5 foot 9 and tall and weighs 200 pounds, basically. So we still got 25 or 30 for the 20 year old. We got 30 pounds on it. You pay that much more when you buy it.
- [99:50]
Anna Vaccino
I think everybody just weighs more these days. People. If you go back and look, people used to be so tiny.
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Dawson
It's kind of talk about it all the time on the show. Yeah, everybody's on a digital lifestyle sitting in their car non stop. It's just how we are in America.
- [100:04]
Adam Carolla
This crazy part is Anna's friend and my friend Vinny Tortorich always brings up, he goes, look at a picture from Woodstock. Skinny as shit.
- [100:15]
Anna Vaccino
Real skinny.
- [100:16]
Adam Carolla
Skinny. Oh, we were watching here the Other day. Dawson, you may know what it is. There's a video out there that is like, parking lot interviews in New Jersey from 1987 when not motley Crue, but, like Metallica. No. Was it Metallica? I think so.
- [100:39]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [100:39]
Adam Carolla
Would you watch that vid with me?
- [100:41]
Dawson
I did. Yeah.
- [100:41]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Was it Metallica? I thought it was another Judas Priest. Yeah, you're right. I think it was Judas Priest. And they're interviewing everyone in the parking lot pre. They were tailgating. Look at the size of these dudes.
- [100:56]
Anna Vaccino
Well, that woman's a little thick.
- [100:57]
Adam Carolla
The woman's a little thick. The dudes are bony as shit.
- [101:01]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
- [101:01]
Adam Carolla
Like, when you watch it, every dude has their shirt off and you can see, like, every processed food was not.
- [101:12]
Dawson
The way to get.
- [101:13]
Adam Carolla
I guess. I mean, These guys weigh 137 pounds.
- [101:17]
Anna Vaccino
I think they're each probably about 1. 170. That guy's probably one more than they look guys.
- [101:23]
Adam Carolla
Way more. But I didn't. 170, man.
- [101:26]
Anna Vaccino
Maybe he's 160, that guy.
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Adam Carolla
There's one fat guy.
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Anna Vaccino
We got a couple Mexicans. Whoa. They're looking to Metallica. How do you like that? See, Mexicans used to assimilate.
- [101:36]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, that was it. One's wearing a Metallica shirt, the other's wearing Iron Maiden. So now I'm confused.
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Anna Vaccino
They don't know what it is. They just got there.
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Adam Carolla
It's Iron Maiden, I guess. And look, they're skinny as. I watched this whole video with mayhem. And they're all skinny as. Everyone was skinny. This is 87. It's not 67. And this is New Jersey. You know what I mean? It's not Bangladesh.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, that's when they started putting corn into everything. Corn syrup, oil, lots of chemicals messing with people's hormones.
- [102:05]
Adam Carolla
Yep, yep, yep. All right, Leonarda, this has been fun.
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah, I had a great time. Thank you, guys.
- [102:11]
Adam Carolla
I'm gonna put your website out there.
- [102:13]
Anna Vaccino
Thank you.
- [102:14]
Adam Carolla
Leonarda is fun, and she is. Because I've seen her do stand up.
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Anna Vaccino
Yep. And they can check out my YouTube. It's the same thing. Leonardo's funny.
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Adam Carolla
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Adam Carolla
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Adam Carolla
Anna Pacino is in studio. Eat Happy Kitchen is where you can get her stuff. Sorry. Eat happy kitchen.com great sauces and beyond. I've purchased them myself.
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Leonarda Joni
You have?
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Adam Carolla
You paid retail?
- [105:40]
Leonarda Joni
Thank you.
- [105:41]
Adam Carolla
I paid retail. They don't have any of the crap that all the other stuff has. And shortly before you came on, I looked at my phone and I saw a tweet that said that In N Out Burger was gonna do their fries and beef tallow.
- [105:58]
Leonarda Joni
Really?
- [105:59]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, right.
- [106:00]
Leonarda Joni
Oh man. I might have to just defy everything that Vinny Tordrich has taught me. Go get them fries.
- [106:06]
Adam Carolla
Starting I Think it started May. It's starting May 1 or May 5.
- [106:11]
Leonarda Joni
I will queue up for that. Let's go.
- [106:13]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I will, too. But the thing I thought about is, is it's nice when there's, like, a little societal pressure and it kind of gets people to do stuff and companies take notice and, you know. Cause you guys have been screaming about all this stuff for a long time and nobody cared. And now we got Robbie Jr. In there, and he's taking care of business.
- [106:36]
Leonarda Joni
Listen, whatever it takes to make some changes. But it is true that Vinny and I have been doing this ever since he hogtied me back in 2012 to start a podcast with him. And I went along with him kind of as like the everyman listener, because I was the mom who was like, you know, my A1Cs aren't great. Hey, I'm putting on weight. And I was used to doing the Hollywood thing of, like, I'll just crash diet, you know, before I have to appear anywhere and not realizing that I was, like, not doing my body any good and learned so much from him and then went down a rabbit hole.
- [107:08]
Adam Carolla
Well, we'll get into the rabbit hole. Now there's breaking news, which is it could be an April Fool's joke, the in and out thing. Except for five guys. Was it five guys that already said they're gonna do it or Shake Shack or something?
- [107:22]
Leonarda Joni
Can we not with April 1st?
- [107:24]
Adam Carolla
I'm with you, but I'm saying it's a weird joke because Shake Shack, like one of your competitors, has already made a funny joke. It's not because, A, you should do it, but B, others are doing it already.
- [107:37]
Leonarda Joni
Unless they're like, ha, ha, you tallow. You just got burned, April Fool's bitches. Like, what?
- [107:43]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I don't. Okay, well, also, if you're in and out, you should do it.
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Leonarda Joni
You should, right?
- [107:50]
Adam Carolla
And others will. And I think they all will.
- [107:53]
Dawson
Yeah. I don't know the brass tax of it, but is it more expensive?
- [107:56]
Leonarda Joni
It probably will be, I guess. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Listen, everything's expensive.
- [108:00]
Adam Carolla
What it is, is we're stupid. I grew up with these idiots, you know, sort of meat is murder. And everything, everything has fat and it's bad for you. So don't butter, eat margarine. And don't cook everything in vegetable oil. Don't do it in lard or fat or butter. And they all went nuts. And they happened to be not only they weren't sort of off the mark they were 180% incorrect about everything.
- [108:28]
Leonarda Joni
They were fed wrong information. And I still have girlfriends who are like, I don't care what you say. I don't care. Cookbooks, yada, yada, yada. You will never convince me that butter is healthy. Healthy. And I'm like, okay, cool. Then we will disagree. To disagree.
- [108:42]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. So it turns out, well, also historically, like, if you just go, well, okay, they didn't know anything back in the day when they all cooked with butter and made eggs and stuff. And you're like, no one was fat and no one had allergies, so nobody was allergic to anything. And everyone was skinny. So maybe they didn't know anything. But look at them. They seem to know something.
- [109:07]
Leonarda Joni
They seem to.
- [109:08]
Adam Carolla
Now we're all evolved and we're all fat and everyone's allergic to everything. Yeah.
- [109:14]
Leonarda Joni
In my case, I have two autoimmune things that I'm sure has something to do with growing up eating the most processed foods.
- [109:21]
Adam Carolla
Oh, really?
- [109:21]
Leonarda Joni
Oh, yeah, for sure.
- [109:23]
Dawson
Is it just a corn, like, lobby?
- [109:26]
Adam Carolla
You know what I mean?
- [109:26]
Dawson
Like, did they figure out, go, oh, if we sell oil. So vegetable oil. So if we sell the vegetable oil, oil, is that there's a propaganda campaign to make it like, butter's bad or.
- [109:38]
Leonarda Joni
Listen, this is why you watch Vinny Tortrich's movies Fat and Fat too, because he explains this stuff. But yeah, no, it definitely. The lobbying is very strong and it's very cheap because what I found, manufacturing products, it is very cheap to fill spices with things that aren't spices because it just takes up room. You could put cornstarch in there. That can be an anti caking agent and a filler. You could put sugar in there to sweeten it so that more people like it. The American palate, we've all been taught we need to have a lot of processed sugar, salt and fat. You know, there's been books written about that. And so to make stuff that's actually clean that they don't put crap all in, it is. It's a fight. You have to find the right partners who are going to manufacture that.
- [110:14]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's like you go, I'm not going to manufacture any of my T shirts in Vietnam or China. I'm making all my stuff here. You know, and then you go, how much does it cost to make a hat here versus China?
- [110:30]
Leonarda Joni
Okay, right.
- [110:31]
Adam Carolla
So now it's easy to fall into that. For the first time. People are kind of waking up to this with the food pyramid and all the other nonsense. We just went Through. Right.
- [110:45]
Leonarda Joni
The food pyramid was a long time because when I was a kid, it was the four food groups. Like in elementary school we had the four food groups. So the food pyramid has been decades in the making. Because I'm old now and I'm like, now they're like, just kidding. Yeah, we're gonna just kind of like just switch it. We're gonna flip it.
- [111:03]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's interesting. So it was all like, you need, you don't need meat, you don't need protein. You need whole grain. Everything was like whole. They sold this whole whole grain thing.
- [111:13]
Leonarda Joni
Which are only good if you put like, I don't know, chicken and olive.
- [111:17]
Dawson
Oil carbos all day. But if you're not, you know, you need to eat protein in vegetables is a strange trick they put on.
- [111:26]
Leonarda Joni
I've always liked the protein in the vegetables.
- [111:28]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, whatever they said is wrong. You can file it under Covid or Hunter Biden's laptop. Russell. Russell. Russia. Fucking lying and bullshitting and money and people and corporations and then there's sort of useful idiots, which is like the news outlets and dumb moms everywhere and all that kind of stuff. And it's all. They just became their foot soldiers. And it just kind of a weird. It's also like a lot of it. Like I used to argue with my ex wife about this, which is she wanted to make my son liked the Quaker Oats instant maple syrup. And who does? It's the best tasting thing ever, right? Yeah, but it's called like maple and brown sugar. But there's no fucking maple in it at all. It's just corn syrup and round dye number four and the carbs and it's shit. It's the worst thing you could eat for breakfast. It's tanny garbage. So I would go, don't do it. You know what I mean? And she'd go, he needs a hot breakfast, you know? And I'd go, a hot breakfast? No, he needs a hard boiled egg and orange or something. He doesn't need this. But to get him started in the.
- [112:41]
Leonarda Joni
Morning, Cream of wheat or the instant oats. And by the way, that was a rich person thing if you could get instant oats when I was little, because I remember my mom being like, we had to make the giant thing of Quaker Oats and add our own shit to it, right? But we would put so much sugar on the breakfast.
- [112:56]
Adam Carolla
But the brainwashing of the American housewife with the hot wholesome meal, you know what I mean? Which is like they did a fucking killer Job.
- [113:05]
Leonarda Joni
No, they did.
- [113:06]
Adam Carolla
As if you couldn't eat something cold for breakfast that was healthy. You had to eat something hot that was unhealthy. And then you'd slather them in Purell to keep them safe. And then Covid came around and we got our asses kicked. But they got to the moms. They brainwashed the moms. The mom's doing the shopping and cooking.
- [113:27]
Leonarda Joni
And doing all that. As a mom, you wanna do right by your kids. It's not like they're like, you do.
- [113:32]
Adam Carolla
But you got brainwashed by Procter and Gamble.
- [113:35]
Leonarda Joni
You did.
- [113:35]
Adam Carolla
That's what happened to you. They fucking scrambled your brain. And I've been yelling about this for a million years. And everyone thinks you're just bad because you're bringing this stuff up.
- [113:45]
Leonarda Joni
I wanna unfuck their brains.
- [113:46]
Adam Carolla
I want to unfuck housewives brains. Yeah, I'm starting to.
- [113:50]
Leonarda Joni
All right, great.
- [113:52]
Adam Carolla
Okay, my dear, let's go. So they did a wonderful job, and now we're having to undo it.
- [113:59]
Leonarda Joni
It's really hard to kind of shift that paradigm and peel back the layers of the onion. Because people are still very much like. Because I'm in the streets. I'm in the grocery store streets every weekend demoing sauces. Because if you walk into a grocery store and there's a wall of pasta sauces, how are you going to know what to switch? You're just going to pick your favorite, right? So I'm out there sampling all the time, and so I hear what people are saying. And I will literally have one person come up and be like, this is a true quote. A woman at the Marina Del Rey Pavilion said to me, I cured my cancer from eating mostly beans. And I was like, okay, great. Like, I'm not gonna. That's her reality. I'm not gonna be like, I don't know her story. I can't. Like, I can't address that. It sounds bonkers to me, but I go, okay, great. But what do you think about the sauce? Like, we're here to do something. And then another lady walks up and she had another health story, but it was about completely different. Like a completely different thing. And then they started arguing with each other. And I was like, this is where we are. This is like the Internet living right in front of me at a table in Marina Del Rey.
- [114:59]
Adam Carolla
Well, what is your pasta sauce is amazing.
- [115:03]
Leonarda Joni
Thank you.
- [115:04]
Adam Carolla
I've just had the pink stuff so far. The pink sauce, the red sauce. But there's always a controversy about low carb, no carb Gluten free. Like, what are we pouring your sauce. Sauce over? And I gotta tell you, first off, all the zucchini noodles, people right off, that's a watery, shitty mess.
- [115:28]
Leonarda Joni
You are angry. Well, you gotta sweat them. You gotta sweat them.
- [115:31]
Adam Carolla
You gotta sweat them.
- [115:32]
Leonarda Joni
You gotta sweat them.
- [115:33]
Dawson
All right.
- [115:34]
Leonarda Joni
I can't just cook the zucchini noodles and think. You're not gonna have a soggy mess. You gotta sweat them.
- [115:39]
Adam Carolla
All right, so that'll work.
- [115:41]
Leonarda Joni
Yeah.
- [115:41]
Adam Carolla
What is like the. There's a brand, I think, called carbonata.
- [115:46]
Leonarda Joni
Which is like, oh, I haven't had that one. But there's skinny pasta.
- [115:50]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's like lower carb pasta. But is any of it any good?
- [115:54]
Leonarda Joni
I mean, I prefer the vegetables. Cause I'm like, well, if I'm gonna eat the thing, I'll just eat the vegetables. But I honestly put it on meat. And I have figured out a way to sell pasta sauce to people who don't even eat pasta.
- [116:06]
Adam Carolla
Oh, really?
- [116:06]
Leonarda Joni
But I want the rest of the world to eat. But here's the thing. The rest of the world does eat pasta. So it's hard to figure out, like, what. What you can get people to eat, what you can't get them to eat. I think. I think the gluten free trend has been completely misunderstood. And I say this as somebody who was diagnosed with Celiac in 2002 and ironically was rail thin, because I didn't digest a single nutrient in my entire life until then I was diagnosed. And then I started putting on weight and put on weight, and thank God I met Vinnie. And so people think, oh, I'm gonna go gluten free. I'm gonna lose five pounds. And it doesn't work that way. It can, but it doesn't necessarily. So the gluten free thing, unless you have a problem with gluten, it's not necessarily going to help you to not have to eat the gluten free pasta. But you don't have to have celiac. So it's like an individual thing for people. But I think that putting it on spaghetti squash or the noodles, that's all fine, you can do that. I have three cookbooks full of ways to do those things. But ultimately, when I'm at home and I'm tired and I'm hungry and I have a husband who's also tired and hungry, I pour pasta sauce over, make a run and gun type of chili or an Italian thing, or just cover it with parm because it's a faster shortcut. And knowing that you've Got something healthy, but that's. It has to taste good.
- [117:19]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
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Leonarda Joni
We are Americans. Shit that doesn't taste good will never fly.
- [117:24]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
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Leonarda Joni
And it doesn't fly in my household either. I don't want that.
- [117:27]
Adam Carolla
Who would dump it over meatloaf and think that would be pretty. Pretty good.
- [117:31]
Leonarda Joni
Yeah. Now you're talking. My grandfather should have brought a meatloaf.
- [117:34]
Adam Carolla
Used to make a meatloaf, and put a hard boiled egg in it. In it. Awesome. Awesome, man. And a little treasure hunt, too. Put a couple of them in there. Yes.
- [117:42]
Leonarda Joni
The egg. It's like the king cake, but it's like.
- [117:44]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, don't sleep on that. People laugh at me, but I start doing it. It works.
- [117:49]
Leonarda Joni
I feel like you should do like a little chain of eggs, like the length of the.
- [117:53]
Adam Carolla
It tastes good. It works. Well, if you got a little ketchup or the sauce on the side, the egg blends right in there.
- [117:59]
Leonarda Joni
I'm stealing that for the next book.
- [118:01]
Adam Carolla
The hard boiled egg in there. Call it Laszlo Gorog's Hard Boiled Egg.
- [118:07]
Leonarda Joni
Because Laszlo Garag's Hard Boiled Egg. Meatloaf.
- [118:11]
Adam Carolla
Yes.
- [118:12]
Leonarda Joni
By Adam Carolla.
- [118:13]
Adam Carolla
By Adam Carolla.
- [118:14]
Leonarda Joni
Okay. That's a very catchy title.
- [118:15]
Adam Carolla
So for you, you're out living this life.
- [118:20]
Leonarda Joni
Yeah.
- [118:21]
Adam Carolla
And now you finally feel like there's some traction. Right? Like people are waking up to this stuff.
- [118:28]
Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
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Leonarda Joni
No, it's nice. I mean. I mean, you don't want to talk about something and spend 12 years of your life discussing something that nobody gives a shit about. So it's nice that people are finally catching on. And Vinny's done a lot of work, and I've done a lot of work on my. We found out really quickly that he was the kind of fitness part and I was the food part. And we had good chemistry and we liked that. I had been recipe writing just because I had to figure out how the fuck to eat when you were diagnosed with something that nobody's heard of. At least in 2002, nobody knew what gluten free was. And. And I had to figure out what to eat. And I just started recipe writing. And it was also great because I'm a voice actor. That's what my trade is. And thank God people pay me to do that, because then there's downtime. I'm like, what can I do that feels less frustrating than. I just lost this big job. I can write a bunch of recipes and that feels good and make that happen. So the fact that I was able to put that. Let's make cookbooks. Let's turn this into a thing. Feels really good that people are listening, that other people are looking for that material, that other people need help.
- [119:27]
Adam Carolla
What is a couple of the most popular recipes in Eat Happy and Eat Happy too?
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Leonarda Joni
My chicken parm is probably the best Italian recipe because that's something that if you do want to either do gluten free or low carb, you will never find that in a restaurant. You cannot find a chicken parm in the wild. That's if you're trying to do low carb, it just doesn't exist. So that's a very popular recipe. And ironically, you get it on the table in 12 to 15 minutes. So it's like not. I love easy, restaurant quality meals.
- [119:58]
Adam Carolla
What do you coat the chicken in?
- [120:00]
Leonarda Joni
I use. I can use almond flour. You can use a combination of almond flour and pork panko or the crushed up pork rinds. I like to use the crushed up pork rinds with a little parmesan in it. I use the salt dust that I brought to you. I season the chicken, hammer it out, put it on the stove, pour the sauce, do some mozzarella, some parmig, you're done. It's super easy. And I think people think like, oh, I'm gonna have to go to my fancy Italian restaurant and get the chicken parm. And not that we don't love that experience, but you can do it at home and get dinner on the table fast. So that's a very popular recipe.
- [120:32]
Adam Carolla
I thought it was hard.
- [120:33]
Dawson
Damn, you made it hard.
- [120:33]
Leonarda Joni
I know, right? It is. It is.
- [120:35]
Adam Carolla
What's another popular.
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Leonarda Joni
Okay, listen, you can throw steaks on the grill. That's super easy to do. But really popular recipes are the chicken. It's like a Tuscan chicken. Oh, my God. I'm blanking on the names. Any sort of like, the low crust pizza recipes? I'm sorry. The low carb pizza crust recipes are very popular because generally when people realize it's usually somebody, the doctor says, hey, your A1Cs or your blood pressure or whatever, you got some bad news. Because nobody wants to face that. Right? But it's usually when the doctor says, hey, and then you're like, okay, what am I gonna do? Well, can I have pizza? I'm not gonna give up pizza. And you're like, yeah, you can have pizza, but you have to just make these certain. So I have the almond flour crust, and then a mom said to me, my kid's allergic to almond flour. And that always gets me. So I created the cauliflower crust and then Somebody says that's too much of a pain in the ass. Cause cauliflower's a pain to work with. So then I invented the pork rind pizza crust. And so I have these variations and then I've turned those into, we can now make a calzone. We can now make a flatbread. We can make these different things.
- [121:37]
Adam Carolla
How close can your almond flour pizza get to pizza?
- [121:42]
Leonarda Joni
It gets to there. It's not gonna. You're not gonna be like in Napoli with that, that pull, you know what I mean? Gluten gives that binding that makes that bread do that crispy, crunchy, flaky thing, right? You're never gonna be able to replicate that even with just gluten free bread, much less cutting out all the grains. But it gets there for a thin crust pizza. If you're doing a pizza night and you're trying to stay on plan, it works. It's really good. Again, I don't like, I don't publish, dude. Like, I want the food to taste really good because you're not gonna keep people around eating this way. If you're like, have a piece of boiled fish and you know, four pieces of broccoli with nothing on it like that. Just, oh, the bacon. Broccoli is good. Put pork products on vegetables and then see how fast your kids will eat them.
- [122:29]
Adam Carolla
I gotta say, I've never thought I would say this in my life. I'm starting to get a little burnt out on bacon.
- [122:35]
Leonarda Joni
Are you? I've been burnt out on bacon.
- [122:36]
Adam Carolla
It was a super treat when I was a kid. It was sometimes for breakfast, but only on this day. My mom wouldn't buy bacon because meat is murder after all, and all these things. And at some point it started showing up in different places. And now I find myself going to a steakhouse, getting brussels sprouts and it's doused in bacon pins. And I'm like, I'm literally. It's like me saying I'm burnt out on blowjobs. I'm taking a break. I never thought I'd say it. Like, I've never thought I'd say it. I'm eating around the bacon. It's just too much. Somebody just went, we're gonna fucking give. You want bacon? We're giving you fucking bacon. And they've gone. It's a little bit of an apology. It's sometimes it's sort of like, are.
- [123:23]
Leonarda Joni
You apologizing to big Bacon?
- [123:26]
Adam Carolla
I'm saying, make me some bright Brussels sprouts that are awesome. You can't cover everything in bacon. Because if you cover everything in bacon, that's you saying you like bacon.
- [123:38]
Leonarda Joni
Okay.
- [123:39]
Adam Carolla
How are you gonna make me awesome Brussels sprouts?
- [123:40]
Leonarda Joni
Brussels sprout leek casserole. That puts basically cream. It's based on an old French recipe. They would poach everything in cream. Right.
- [123:46]
Dawson
Okay.
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Leonarda Joni
So you poach brussel sprouts, leeks, and a little bit of apple and some cream. You don't need your bacon. It's really good.
- [123:54]
Dawson
What do you mean, poaching cream?
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Leonarda Joni
I'm not so poaching is just boiling a liquid and then you cook something in it. So when you poach eggs, you have boile. Then you put the egg in and it does the. It cooks in the boiled water. So that's poaching.
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Dawson
I see.
- [124:05]
Leonarda Joni
So you're just poaching something in cream.
- [124:06]
Adam Carolla
Do you take cream and boil it?
- [124:10]
Leonarda Joni
Well, you pour it over and you roast it in the oven so it's, in effect boiling.
- [124:14]
Adam Carolla
You're not poaching. When I think poaching, I think, no, you can poach.
- [124:17]
Leonarda Joni
You could certainly poach chicken in milk or cream. Absolutely. It's really good.
- [124:21]
Dawson
You make a reduction sort of.
- [124:23]
Leonarda Joni
You're literally submerging it in the cream.
- [124:26]
Adam Carolla
So I could take it cream, put it in a pot and put the brussels sprouts. Brussels sprouts in it and cook it that way.
- [124:33]
Leonarda Joni
Yeah. Do it really get in there.
- [124:35]
Adam Carolla
And then when it's out and I get the brussels sprouts out, what do I do?
- [124:39]
Leonarda Joni
Eat them? You put them in your face hole.
- [124:43]
Adam Carolla
No searing in a pan or, you.
- [124:46]
Leonarda Joni
Know, adding olive oil or something I like to do in the oven. Because then the oven naturally kind of gives it that caramelization of the vegetables on top. So you get that little bit of a crunch on there.
- [124:55]
Adam Carolla
Poach. And what do we cook? If we're put. Okay, we're taking our brussels sprouts, we cut them in half.
- [125:01]
Leonarda Joni
I love that we're going balls deep on brussels sprouts. I like to figure this out.
- [125:06]
Adam Carolla
I like brussels sprouts, but I'm tired of the bacon and I'm tired of the.
- [125:12]
Leonarda Joni
It's the smoke, by the way. That's my theory. They've over smoked the bacon and it's hard to, like have that all the time. That's my theory.
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Adam Carolla
I agree. And also, I don't want al dente brussel sprouts. I want them to fucking cook.
- [125:25]
Leonarda Joni
Nobody enjoys that.
- [125:26]
Adam Carolla
Go to the Steak Steakhouse. The brussels sprouts are half cooked and they're Covered with bacon. And now they're like crunchy Brussels sprouts that have bacon all over them. I'm not enjoying myself.
- [125:36]
Leonarda Joni
That's a lazy. That's a Lazy sue right there.
- [125:38]
Adam Carolla
It's everywhere.
- [125:38]
Leonarda Joni
Now, if you don't want to finish it.
- [125:39]
Adam Carolla
I cut them in half, I put them on a tray, and I pour cream over the top of them.
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Leonarda Joni
No, take a casserole dish.
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Adam Carolla
Casserole dish.
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Leonarda Joni
I was just trying to get you to say the word casserole, but yes, casserole dish. Take a casserole dish. Put your brussels sprouts and cut up some leeks or onion or whatever, because I like to have another little flavor in there. Pour the cream over it liberally.
- [126:02]
Adam Carolla
Does it need to be submerged cream?
- [126:05]
Leonarda Joni
Sure.
- [126:06]
Adam Carolla
A little bit.
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Leonarda Joni
Yeah. I mean, not like swimming. It's not floating. But if you take a thing of. I don't know what the. I'd have to get my other cookbook, what it calls for. I just do it. You just do it? You just. No, not a quart.
- [126:19]
Adam Carolla
No, no. Half quart. Like a pint?
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Anna Vaccino
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Sorry.
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Leonarda Joni
I guess a pint is two cups, right? So maybe like, half of that pint is a half.
- [126:26]
Adam Carolla
A Dawson is a pint half a quart.
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Leonarda Joni
Two pints, four cups in a quart. So two pints in a quart.
- [126:35]
Adam Carolla
Four pints are in a half gallon. Oh, who the hell knows there's pint quart. I don't know. But put it over the top and bake it. Yeah.
- [126:42]
Leonarda Joni
Telling us the wrong things.
- [126:44]
Adam Carolla
I agree.
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Leonarda Joni
Put it over the top, bake it, season it. I cut a little apple, like a. Whatever apple. Everyone buys an apple. You're like, I'm gonna eat this apple. And then it just sits there. Use the apple. Okay, hold on. One pint is half a quart. So that's right. So because four cups is a quart. I do know that.
- [127:00]
Adam Carolla
Wait, one cup.
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Leonarda Joni
So two cups is a pint?
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Dawson
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
Four.
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Dawson
Yeah.
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Leonarda Joni
A pint is 16 ounces.
- [127:05]
Adam Carolla
Pint.
- [127:06]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Two pints is a quart.
- [127:08]
Adam Carolla
Right. I was right, though. Didn't I say that?
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Leonarda Joni
Yeah.
- [127:10]
Adam Carolla
Okay. Everyone's right. I'm just more right.
- [127:13]
Leonarda Joni
Okay, so thou art more right.
- [127:15]
Adam Carolla
You sprinkle it over how long in the oven.
- [127:19]
Leonarda Joni
Let's say 350 to 375 temp. And then do it for. I would cover it for 30 minutes so that it can really bubble without evaporating. Then you can uncover it for about 10, 15 minutes and get that color on it. That's what I would do. Everyone's oven is different. Pro tip, if it's not cooking. If your oven isn't cooking the way that cookbooks tell you your temperature is lying to you. You can get a little oven temperature thing and hang it in there and it will tell you the truth about what your oven's doing.
- [127:48]
Adam Carolla
Now I hear, although people don't like electric stoves, but I hear electric ovens are better for that than gas. Is that true?
- [127:59]
Leonarda Joni
I have a dual oven with the burners, the gas burners, and then two electric stoves underneath it. Love them. They do the convection. Great. No complaints.
- [128:07]
Adam Carolla
Do the electric stove.
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Leonarda Joni
Yeah.
- [128:09]
Adam Carolla
And. Or, sorry, the electric oven.
- [128:11]
Leonarda Joni
Oven. And if they still let you do a cooktop with gas. I still am not convinced that I don't understand and I don't know how that became a political issue. But so I'm just. I'm curious that they try to take away my gas.
- [128:21]
Adam Carolla
There's a new thing where Karen Bass is gonna not issue permits unless you go all electric, which is electric. Water heaters are not great. And electric dryers aren't great. And electric. Most cooktops aren't great. And also we don't have a power grid in California. So I don't know why you guys keep talking about electric cars and electric sustain it. You're Talking about electric 18 wheelers and electric leaf blowers and electric stoves and electric houses. And we don't have a grid.
- [128:56]
Leonarda Joni
So I don't know, it's gonna get bad. I went from LADWP to PG&E, so it's even worse.
- [129:03]
Adam Carolla
I wanna say to all these assholes, look, how about you get your grid together and when you get your grid together, then come back and we can talk about all your insane mandates.
- [129:11]
Leonarda Joni
Mind your grid.
- [129:12]
Adam Carolla
Mind your fucking grids and cubes, bitches. Don't fucking tell us we gotta get. By the way, at least they're not telling us we have to get into electric car anymore. They're burning them, but they use gas for that. Wonderful.
- [129:24]
Leonarda Joni
For the environment.
- [129:25]
Adam Carolla
Yes. I'm just saying get your grid sorted out and then we'll talk about electrifying the house.
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Leonarda Joni
Yeah, I want a gas stovetop. I just am spoiled and I enjoy cooking that way. And I will ignore any science cause I want my. I have my confirmation bias about my gas stove. Goddammit.
- [129:44]
Adam Carolla
I will say this. I was with the LG people in Vegas at the big. The big show and he's showing the electric cooktop with the infrared whatever.
- [129:58]
Leonarda Joni
Well, that's the induction though.
- [129:59]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. I think it's induction.
- [130:00]
Leonarda Joni
Induction's supposed to be cool.
- [130:02]
Adam Carolla
And I think most women are a little like, I don't know. I like to see the flame, you know, I like to know where I'm at with the thing. Right. It's tactile, you know, like they made cars for a little while with a digital tachometer, but people rejected them. They want to see the needle that you see the needle, like every race car I have just as a needle. Because you see it digitally, it wouldn't work as well, even though that would be technology. So I said, he goes, oh, it works real good. And the cleanup is real good too, because it's one sheet of glass.
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Leonarda Joni
Right.
- [130:38]
Adam Carolla
And you put your hand on it, wouldn't burn. It's induction or whatever your name is. Yeah. It's kind of crazy.
- [130:43]
Leonarda Joni
I've never used one, but people swear by them.
- [130:45]
Adam Carolla
I said to the guy, I asked the question that all America wants answers. I just said to him, he's like, oh, yeah, this is better.
- [130:55]
Leonarda Joni
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
I go, okay, but answer me this. If I get a big ass pot of water, what boils faster? Big open flame or this? And he goes, oh, this a lot faster. And I was like, that's interesting because that pot sitting there, when you go big on that pot, you got that flame licking up all the way around. Twenty minutes later, you still put your hand in there. Like, it takes a while.
- [131:17]
Leonarda Joni
It's true. Especially if a big lobster pot. Yep.
- [131:19]
Adam Carolla
Takes a minute to do that big lobster pot.
- [131:22]
Leonarda Joni
It does.
- [131:23]
Adam Carolla
And he said, this induction thing, that thing will be real fast. I was like, that's your pitch? Because it's not really scrambled eggs. You know what I mean? Like, who cares with that? It's this pot.
- [131:34]
Leonarda Joni
It's a giant pot of water.
- [131:35]
Adam Carolla
It's a giant pot of water and it needs to be boiled.
- [131:38]
Leonarda Joni
It needs to be boiled.
- [131:40]
Adam Carolla
Tell me what you guys think of this. Talking about eating. I know people.
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Leonarda Joni
I'm pro eating. I like to eat.
- [131:46]
Adam Carolla
Well, you should be. You'll be qualified to answer this.
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Leonarda Joni
Okay, thank you.
- [131:50]
Adam Carolla
There are people that take their leftovers home. This happened here with.
- [131:56]
Leonarda Joni
From the restaurant.
- [131:57]
Adam Carolla
From the restaurant. This happened here with French fries the other day.
- [132:01]
Leonarda Joni
You wouldn't take those.
- [132:02]
Adam Carolla
I said to somebody, here's French fries. Eat these French fries. And they said, yeah, I'm going to put them. I said, just pop them in the microwave. No, I'm going to put them in the toaster oven. And I, I go, that's good, but I don't have that kind of self esteem. The Toaster oven. People who do it right.
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Leonarda Joni
You know what I mean?
- [132:21]
Adam Carolla
I microwave every leftover thing, but smart people with high self esteem do it in the toaster oven. Like if they'll do it with a sandwich, like a half a hamburger, marshmallow fries or whatever.
- [132:33]
Leonarda Joni
I do everything on the stove.
- [132:35]
Adam Carolla
You do everything on the stove?
- [132:36]
Leonarda Joni
I do my leftovers on the stove.
- [132:38]
Adam Carolla
How would you reanimate fries?
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Leonarda Joni
I would do it on the stove. I'd pour a little olive oil in there and I would toss it till it was crispy. But that's because I like. I will microwave things. Certain things. If you have chicken in the microwave, I think it tastes horribly gamey and rubbery. So I don't like putting any meat leftovers in the microwave. I think it's gross. So I don't think that's a self esteem issue. I think that's a taste issue. Are your taste buds okay?
- [133:04]
Adam Carolla
I don't feel like I'm good enough.
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Dawson
For the toaster on me.
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Leonarda Joni
You might not be. You might not.
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Dawson
To put it in the stove is a lot of effort where you're like, you're doing something and the microwave is like, beep, beep, beep, ba dah, walk away.
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Leonarda Joni
But also, too. I'm usually mixing other things in. Or maybe I'll take the leftovers and just put eggs on it. You're just an egg thing. Yeah, listen, I will take it because I haven't heard that in a while. So thank you.
- [133:26]
Adam Carolla
You feel good about yourself.
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Leonarda Joni
Thank you.
- [133:29]
Adam Carolla
So you would heat up a steak that you brought home from a steakhouse.
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Leonarda Joni
By putting it in a pan. I slice it. Slice it because I will get the syrup, the slices. So, like, I would always order a steak medium rare. And then when I'm cooking the leftovers, I'll slice it and it'll just be like mostly well done.
- [133:42]
Adam Carolla
A little olive oil in there.
- [133:44]
Leonarda Joni
Yeah, put olive oil or butter. Butter's great with steaks.
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Adam Carolla
All right, Anna, let me give you a plug. Eat Happy Kitchen great products. I ordered them at retail. Now I'm getting some for free.
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Leonarda Joni
That's right.
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Adam Carolla
And we go to eathappykitchen.com as well. The podcast Bedside Matters. Am I right? Fitness Confidential and Fitness Confidential. And the cookbook, the Eat Happy Italian.
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Leonarda Joni
My latest.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's good stuff, Anna. Doing the Lord's work. Give my love to Vinnie.
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Leonarda Joni
I will. Thank you for having me.
- [134:18]
Adam Carolla
My pleasure. All right, I'm gonna be doing stand up April 11th and April 12th, and that's in San Diego at the American comedy club. And until next time, Adam, Brandon Leonarda and Mayhem saying mahalo.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
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