Lou Diamond Phillips on the Stunt That Almost Killed Him + Mike Vecchione on High School Brawls

Summary

Episode Overview

This episode of The Adam Carolla Show (August 28, 2025) features a lively, wide-ranging conversation with actor Lou Diamond Phillips and comedian Mike Vecchione. The main themes include the quirks of memory and storytelling, career changes in show business, family role reversals, ethnic identity in Hollywood, and lessons from tough jobs and sports. The discussion is peppered with signature Carolla humor, frank takes on society, and colorful personal anecdotes—most notably, Lou Diamond Phillips recounting a near-fatal stunt on the set of Young Guns II. The episode also delves into generational work ethic, high school sports brawls, and debates about masculinity, toughness, and the state of comedy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Power and Flaws of Human Memory

• Adam and Lou share stories of fans who recounted fictitious memories involving them—demonstrating the “Mandela Effect,” where people misremember events with deep conviction.
  • Lou Diamond Phillips: “It’s that Mandela effect… you misremember something. But as the years go by, it becomes embedded in your memory and very clear to you at the time.” (08:49)
  • Adam reveals how two strangers recently thanked him for specific generous acts—none of which ever happened.
• The limits of memory apply to both everyday people and celebrities; stories change over time and across storytellers.
  • Adam: “I think we’re never gonna be able to correct that. ‘Cause it’s part of our DNA…” (09:08)

2. Role Reversals and Family Dynamics

• Lou and Adam compare household roles: Lou is the cook, while his wife is the “handy” one—a flip of traditional gender roles, which Adam notes also existed with his grandparents.
• Sandwich Score & Mother’s Love: Adam introduces the "mom sandwich score" as a metaphor for love and effort in parenting, sparking a funny yet insightful assessment of Lou’s upbringing.
  • Lou: “My mom was an amazing cook... but low sandwich score. Very low sandwich score. That was it. You know, that's what went in the brown bag... not even any lettuce or tomato.” (17:27)
  • Lou explains Filipino mothers aren’t big on making sandwiches, tying culture to food habits and family expressions of care.

3. Show Business Evolution and Gig Mentality

• Lou discusses the evolution of acting careers:
  • No more stigma between TV, movie, and theater actors; everyone does everything now.
  • The current climate is a “gig economy”—shows get canceled abruptly, and actors need to stay versatile.
  • Lou plugs his new film “Et Tu” and an upcoming HBO comedy with Tim Robinson.
    • Lou: “It’s more of a gig economy than ever before... when I started in the 80s... you really did not cross boundaries. Now everybody’s doing everything.” (26:11)
• Comedy production is more improvisational than drama—Lou finds it both exciting and anxiety-inducing.
  • Adam: “Comedy, you have to hear it out loud in order to really understand... and if I’m not laughing, then this isn’t good.” (29:13)
  • Lou appreciates crew laughter as the only feedback in a studio comedy shoot.

4. Ethnic Identity & Representation in Casting

• Lou describes how, despite being Filipino, his breakout roles (La Bamba, Stand and Deliver) were as Latino characters, and how today’s casting climate might not allow that sort of crossover.
  • Lou: “Now…it’s interesting…I probably wouldn’t be cast in those roles today if I was a 24-year-old Filipino American actor.” (52:07)
  • He reflects on opening doors for more diverse actors: “I’m the only brown Brat Packer.” (54:03)

5. The Stunt That Almost Killed Lou Diamond Phillips

A major highlight: Lou recounts a harrowing, unscripted scene in Young Guns II where, due to production oversight, he was dragged 100 yards by a spooked horse—with a real noose around his neck. He broke his arm and knee, nearly died, and laments that producers denied him seeing the footage.
- Quote: “He reared up. They fired the shot… the noose, and I got my hands in it and the horse took off. He actually turned around and went the other way… He took me through a pile of kindling. We shattered a wagon wheel. He took me through that, and he’s kicking me the whole time… What actually saved my life… was my leg got caught on the railroad tie that was the side of the gate… and that snapped the rope.” (57:33–59:19) - Adam: “In today’s world, there would have been a lawsuit.” (59:41)

6. Nostalgia, Culture, and Toughness

• Food and regional identity: Lou describes catching crab and shrimp as a child in Texas, which Adam contrasts with his city-bound LA upbringing.
• Toughness from work, not war: Adam’s generation’s “Vietnam” is working at fast food joints like McDonald’s or Whataburger, not military service—a humorous but poignant point about shifting American rites of passage.

7. Generational Differences in Work Ethic & Masculinity

• Panel discusses how work ethic and sports toughened previous generations, while new ones may lack such grit, replaced by entitlement and digital distractions.
  • Mike Vecchione: “I have friends who are wrestling coaches and they’re like, I used to get these tough white kids to come out and wrestle... That doesn’t exist anymore. Those kids don’t come out for the team anymore.”
  • Adam: “Just having a good work ethic and you will zoom to the top of the fuckin’ ladder because everyone is A lazy, B, self entitled, and C, probably stoned.” (74:40)
• Physical consequences and brawls: Stories of high school football, wrestling, and fights emphasize the value of losing, getting humbled, and learning boundaries.

8. Debates on High School Brawls and School Discipline

• Call-in story about a teacher throwing a student (in his desk) into the hallway sparks discussion on discipline then vs. now, and the impact of structure versus permissiveness in education.
  • Mike Vecchione: Describes firsthand experience working at behavioral schools and physically restraining out-of-control students.

9. Combat Sports Ethics and Aftermath

• Debate over MMA/UFC fighters delivering knockouts—should a fight stop at clear unconsciousness? Adam argues for a “walk-off” culture; Mayhem (Jason Miller) insists on the heat of battle logic and responsibility of referees. Discussion is nuanced, referencing changes in NFL tackling as precedent for shifting norms.

10. News and Absurdities

• Mayhem presents “the news”—includes riffing on the destruction of the “Orgy Dome” at Burning Man, Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce engagement rumors, and Adam’s asteroid being named after him (with requisite asteroid apocalypse sitcom pitch).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Lou on the Mandela Effect (08:49):
  "You misremember something. But as the years go by, it becomes embedded, you know, in your memory and very clear to you at the time. So if you took a lie detector test, you'd probably pass it."

• Adam on Role Reversal (13:13):
  "I don't mind the reversal of the roles in terms of you do the cooking and you do the carpentry... My only problem is I don't care who's doing which role, but somebody's got to do one and the other has to do the other."

• Adam on Tough Jobs (22:17):
  "Time didn't move. Yeah, it stood still. And standing over a hot griddle, it stops. You just stand there sweating over this hot sheet of steel, and it doesn't move forward. And eight hours of that is a completely different experience than being on the set for eight hours or something like that."

• Lou on “Young Guns II” Stunt Gone Wrong (57:32):
  "They fired the shot. The horse rears up. I'm falling. And I had two thoughts as I'm falling. I was thinking, 'I told you so.' And then when I hit the ground, it was like the noose, and I got my hands in it, and the horse took off... If he had kept running, I would have been a rag. I would have been, ah, wow. Yeah."

• Adam, on generational grit (74:40): "Just having a good work ethic and you will zoom to the top of the fucking ladder because everyone is A lazy, B, self-entitled and C, probably stoned."

• Adam, on Sandwich Score (17:25):
  "When you cross into toasting the bread, we're already at a seven. Because if you're toasting bread, that's extra effort. No one needs toasted bread on their sandwich. But if your mom really loves you, she's gonna spend a little extra time and some kilowatts toasting that bread."

• Adam on Asteroid Named After Him (113:06): "An asteroid named after Adam Carolla is 4535 Adam Carolla... If it hits this planet, I’ll be like, that’s great PR."

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Timestamps for Significant Segments

• Lou Diamond Phillips’ Name & Family History: 02:24–03:49
• Quirks of Memory & Mandela Effect: 03:49–09:08
• Role Reversal and Cooking Discussion: 13:00–15:55
• Sandwich Score Segment: 16:21–18:02
• Lou’s Filipino/Texas Childhood & Food: 19:23–21:36; 44:50–47:16
• Tough Jobs and Gigs: 20:39–23:45
• Modern Showbiz & Acting: 24:34–29:13
• Comedy vs. Drama Process: 29:13–31:01
• Racial/Ethnic Identity in Casting: 51:38–54:09
• Young Guns II Near-Death Stunt: 54:09–60:08
• High School Brawls, Masculinity, and Working-Class Life: 68:11–71:03; 73:17–74:40
• Physical Consequences & Losing: 80:42–83:46
• Discipline in Schools (Caller/Vignette): 89:50–93:12
• MMA Ethics & Aftermath Debate: 95:23–101:45
• Burning Man Orgy Dome Story: 121:25–125:02
• Asteroid & Apocalypse Sitcom Riff: 113:15–117:44

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Tone & Style

The episode flows as a fast-paced, irreverent, and highly candid roundtable. Adam’s dry wit and social observations drive the conversation, while Lou Diamond Phillips adds warmth, humor, and humility—especially in sharing stories about personal and professional risk. Mike Vecchione injects sharp comedic commentary about class and generational issues. Mayhem’s energy keeps the “news” and fight discussion lively. The tone is conversational, self-deprecating, and frequently veers off into tangents, but always returns to core insights about memory, grit, and generational change.

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Conclusion

This is a classic Adam Carolla Show mixing unfiltered humor with thoughtful takes on identity, nostalgia, work, and survival—in both Hollywood and everyday life. From Lou’s near-death stunt story to group meditations on how memory shapes reality, the episode is rich in memorable moments and engaging dialogue for both longtime fans and new listeners seeking sharp, funny perspectives on American culture.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Well, in this episode, Lou Diamond Phillips joins us. Also comedian Mike Vecchiant and Mayhem's got the news. We'll do that right after this. Hey, this is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show. Betonline continues to be your number one source for all your football betting action. Betonline has more ways to get in and stay in on action with the latest odds, news and scores. Even live in game betting from every NFL and college game to mlb, UFC and NHL futures as well, Betonline remains your choice. For sports wagering info. Head to the website today and take advantage of their industry leading VIP program with level up bonuses and weekly cash boost. In between games, head over to Betonline's casino with all the top Vegas style games including poker and and live casino bet online. The game starts here.

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From Corolla 1 Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, actor Lou Diamond Phillips and comedian Mike Vecchione with Jason Mayhem Miller covering the news. And now he doesn't need a seat at the table because he built the seat and the table.

[Adam Carolla]

Adam Carolla. Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the choice, but again, it's a little hot. Yeah, there we go. Lou Diamond Phillips in studio Is great to see Lou Diamond Phillips.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

[Adam Carolla]

It's got a nice sound.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You gotta say all three, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Or you go, where does diamond come from?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I was actually named after Gunnery Sergeant Llewellyn D. Diamond in World War II. Really was? Yeah, he was a kind of Marines Marine, Audie Murphy of the Pacific Theater. And my dad, Gerald Upchurch was in the Navy and read a biography on the man, liked the name. My, my paternal grandmother, her name was Louella. So I guess he was partial to Lou. And so he named me Lou diamond. And you know, and then my biological father passed and my mother remarried George Phillips. Hence the Phillips. So all of it is actually legit and authentic.

[Adam Carolla]

How old were you when your biological dad passed?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Like less than a year old. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that. So he was really young.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, he was young. He was young.

[Adam Carolla]

How did he pass?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You know it's shrouded in mystery. Actually, I want to.

[Adam Carolla]

I kind of miss that. I mean, do you miss the. Some say, others say, like on the.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Internet, you get it. You get it. A story from Grandma, and then you get a story from one of your uncles, and, you know, never. Never really understood what happened there. But, yeah, yeah. He had an early demise, but obviously gave me a name that has. Has stood me well lo. These many years. I.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, let's talk about memory.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Uh. Oh.

[Adam Carolla]

So I'm starting to worry because I hear everyone's rendition of life, and then I go, oh, really? And then I think back. I don't know why, but I think back when I was a kid, they had those time in life books, the Old west, the gunslingers. You know, they'd run those commercials, right?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then they'd go, doc Hobson, so mean. He once shot a man just for snoring.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And you're like. And back then, I was like, oh, man, that guy was mean. And now I go, wait a minute. Everyone's full of shit now. Well, he's a psychopath. But I don't even know if this happened or not. Cause we have computers now, and we don't know what's happened and what's not happened. They just had hearsay and campfire talk with drunk guys who had no education.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

And then passed the story down through the ages. And I'm sure it was embellished as time went on.

[Adam Carolla]

And I had two incidents happen to me in a week. One was yesterday. And I'm trying to figure out recollection and people, which is, I was doing a car race at Laguna Seca. I was at the car weekend, whatever, and I had a guy stop me at an auction preview, a car auction preview, and he goes, you know, Adam, I just want to thank you because I remember being here years ago, and you were back there, and you bought a Toyota and you had all those kids, and you let them ride in the car with you. And I just think, that was great, man. And I always. I never forgot it. And I always think about you in a good way. And I thought. I just go, yeah, thanks, man. But I've never bought a Toyota, and I don't have any kids that go to those auctions and get the Toyota. So he has some memory.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's real powerful. He stopped me and he, like, almost started tearing up when he was telling me this thing that never happened.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then yesterday, I was on set doing a TV show and a big chauffeur guy looked like a security guard. And he stopped me and he goes, you could tell he was getting a little emotional. He was having, like, trouble. He was nervous. He goes, adam, I know you're busy. I just got to get something out. Many years ago In Fresno, about 20 years ago, I was your driver. And I'll never forget it. You gave me a huge tip. And I thought to myself, okay, so far. Doesn't.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Doesn't really.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I'm the guy who goes, doesn't the company take care of that? I have to do that. He goes, you gave me a huge tip. And I was like, yeah. And he goes, and a life supply. A life supply of Red Bull. And I'll never forget it. And I just want to thank you. I was like, you're welcome, my brother. You're welcome. And I thought, I've never handed anyone a Red Bull. And I'm not a big tipper. I'm a 20 percenter. And I thought I just talked to two dudes who had some sort of vivid memory carved out who probably would say when their girlfriend was going, you know that abcroll is such a douchebag, they'd go, shut your mouth, woman. He gave me a big tip and a case of Red Bull.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. Never.

[Adam Carolla]

I have no idea what he's talking about.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I've experienced that a few times doing a lot of cons now, you know, the fan cons, and going. And somebody will have a memory of me that, you know, I mean, most of the time it rings somewhat true because I've been around. I've been around in a lot of places. The one that jumps out at me, there was this, and this was a number of years ago, probably in the middle 90s, when a woman my age or thereabouts came up with her friend and she goes, do you remember? And for lack of a better name, I'm going to say Bambi. She goes, do you remember Bambi here? And I'm like, no, I don't think we've ever met. And she was, oh, oh, no. Oh, we did. And she got this look like we had obviously, you know, coitus going on. Yes, exactly. And she was, you know, very, very impressed with it. And I said, where did this happen? And she mentioned a hotel in Philadelphia. And at that point in my life, I'd never been to Philadelphia. And I said, I am so sorry, but obviously that was someone else.

[Adam Carolla]

Now you wonder, then you start. For me, it's all fun and games until it gets into the legal system.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Well, there's that.

[Adam Carolla]

And this person's on the stand going, the father of my child is Lou Diamond Phillips.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. We met in C. Kane. We drove into Philadelphia, and he bedded me in his hotel room.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

For hours, I hope.

[Adam Carolla]

And also, I don't think anyone is lying. I mean, these guys were having emotional memories of me doing things with them that's never happened.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

It's that Mandela effect. You know, my daughter loves that term, the Mandela effect, because, you know, you misremember something. But as the years go by, it becomes embedded, you know, in your memory and very clear to you at the time. So if you took a lie detector test, you'd probably pass it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. And I think we're never gonna be able to correct that. Cause it's part of our DNA, and it's woven into our fabric of us. But I think what we do need to do is we do need to do what Dr. Drew does. Cause Dr. Drew will go, this is the way I remember it. But you tell me. Cause I don't know. And my recollection's not always that good. And I screw a lot of things up, and I, you know, do I mix up things? So you tell me. Yeah, and as long as you're open to that, then we're fine. Cause you're never gonna remember things like you should, but you can't be wedded to them. Yeah, that's the problem.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I did a movie. Courage Under Fire, you know, is kind of the Rashomon thing, you know, where you got, you know, Denzel, you know, got like, five different stories from five different people, you know, about what really happened in the fog of war. So, you know. You know, you can extrapolate that to, you know, everyday life. And, you know, somebody's had a, you know, a meaningful interaction with you that may or may not have ever happened.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm trying to. I started thinking about it. I was like, well, I've definitely been to his neck of the woods, and he definitely could have driven me around. The generous tipper part doesn't sound like me, but you never know.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You're having a good day.

[Adam Carolla]

The Red Bull. Unless, like, here's my only Red Bull thing I can think of. If I did some sort of station appearance, and the guy said, we're sponsored by Red Bull, and he gave me a case of Red Bull and said, take this. I would have left it in the limousine.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Well, there you go.

[Adam Carolla]

And then he would have thought that was a generous offering.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, the other guy with the Toyota and the kids, I don't Even know exactly what that was. But I'm not here just like the elderly Hispanic woman who sees Jesus in a tortilla. I'm not here to talk her out of it. If she finds some solace in that tortilla, then I'm not here to make a soft taco out of it.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

No. Well, no, exactly. You can make her a frame because you made this table, didn't you? Did you make this table?

[Adam Carolla]

No, I made this studio, but I did not this table. Well, I want to see.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

That was a lie then, you know, in the promo. That was a lie.

[Adam Carolla]

I made this table.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You did not actually make this table.

[Adam Carolla]

I am very careful to tell people what I did and what I didn't do in the sense that I don't like stolen valor. I am a carpenter. I'm a journeyman carpenter. And I built all these studios and I built the former table that was here. But a woodworker who is a high end woodworker built this table.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

It's a great table.

[Adam Carolla]

It's beautiful. And also, just because nobody cares, There is a difference between guys who do sheetrock and metal stud and framing and whatever, all the stuff building and then the guys who build kayaks and stuff like that, and laminate wood and steam wood and do a lot of radio work and stuff like that. I didn't do that. And people go, I thought you were woodworker. I had to get paid. I couldn't sell $20,000 canoes. I had to show up on job sites and put my bags on and swing a hammer. And that other stuff where I sell a coffee table for 14 grand. That wasn't my business. Because it's not really a Nick Offerman does that. Because Nick Offerman has a job.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, that's elite air. I'm in there slugging it out, framing stuff and pulling up subfloor and replacing toilets and stuff like that.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

See, my wife is the one who does all that stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. I cook the dinner. My wife is very manly.

[Adam Carolla]

She does artistry as well, right?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

She does. I'm so glad you know that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I do know that.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

She's amazing.

[Adam Carolla]

She's an amazing artist.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

She really is unbelievable.

[Adam Carolla]

And listen, I don't mind the reversal of the roles in terms of you do the cooking and you do the carpentry or whatever it is. I'm fine with that. My grandparents had that. My family's pretty dysfunctional. But there was a kind of a functional unit, which is my grandfather, my grandmother, and they had a full roll reversal like in the 60s, into the 70s and 80s, my grandfather shopped and cooked and cleaned and stayed home. My grandmother got up in the morning and went to the VA and worked all day and came home. And when she came home, dinner better be on that fucking table. Like that was her thing. You think it's some sort of misogynistic dude thing? No, it's whoever goes out and busts their hump all day in a job they didn't like, especially when they come home, they'd like, they want to eat. Yeah, that's how she was. I understood it. My only problem is I don't care who's doing which role, but somebody's got to do one and the other has to do the other.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, there has to be a.

[Adam Carolla]

It can't be her doing all the fixing and you sitting on the sofa.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

So you do the cooking.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I do, and I enjoy it. I do too.

[Adam Carolla]

What do you. Let me ask you this about cooking.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a side of cooking that is sort of technical, like where you're going. I want to see if I can execute this the way it's. You know, I see the picture, I see the menu. I want to see if I can do this right. And then there's a part I realize is more spiritual. Like, Jimmy Kimmel loves cooking, but that's cause he loves offering things to people. He's nurturing, you know what I mean? Like, he likes the notion of philosophically, of creating something so someone can ingest it. Like maybe the ultimate appreciation, you know, giving someone a hundred bucks is fine, or buying him a car is fine, but giving them sustenance.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. And putting yourself into it, to put it on the plate and hopefully it's good.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. The more of you that's into it, the better. And then I realize, does he really like cooking or is he really like people and sort of giving to people? You know what I mean?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I can agree with that. There is a great portion of the satisfaction that comes from making a good meal and being a good cook. But it's like, okay, I'm feeding my wife, I'm feeding my daughter, and they're enjoying it and it's, you know, and it's good for them and it's tasty. So, you know, that's. There's a great deal of the satisfaction in that.

[Adam Carolla]

I think you're right in agreeing with me. Yeah. But I also then realized it's like a two way street because I realize my mom wasn't that person and it manifested itself in not a lot of cooking. Because cooking is really just someone going, I'm going to take time to do something for you.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Versus, I'm not giving you any of my time because I'm not hungry.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. And so then that leads my question, which is I ask everybody, or at least I try to give me your mom's sandwich score. Now, let me explain. My mom was a zero. And that she didn't do a lot for her kids. She didn't make sandwiches. Dr. Drew's mom is what we call a shit sandwich. She had a shitty sandwich. You know, like a sandwich that took two minutes. Like, there you go. Get out of my face. You know? So then there's all that. Now, when you cross into toasting the bread, we're already at a seven. Because if you're toasting bread, that's extra effort. No one needs toasted bread on their sandwich. But if your mom really loves you, she's gonna spend a little extra time and some kilowatts toasting that bread. And there's a lot of range in sandwich. But when the mom really loves the sun, she gets a high sandwich score.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I'm really feeling bad about myself right about now.

[Adam Carolla]

Low sandwich score. Really?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Low sandwich score.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. But you make up for it in Denver. Omelets and other confections.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

And here's the thing. My mom was an amazing cook, Okay? A fantastic. She taught me to cook.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the sandwich score is not literal. Like, your mom was a wonderful cook who didn't make sandwiches. Yeah, she didn't give her a high sandwich score.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You know, it was. It was the one cultural mayonnaise and some bologna. That. That was, you know, low sandwich score. Very low sandwich score. That was it. You know, that. That's what went in the brown bag. Going to school, you know, so.

[Adam Carolla]

But cooked meals at night.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, cooked. Cooked meals every single night of the week. You know, So, I mean, the school sandwich thing was. Yeah, like I said, I mean, pretty darn basic. Not even any lettuce or tomato. None of that. None of. None of that fancy garnish.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, this is a quandary because most moms who score low in the sandwich department score low in all the departments. But your mom, this is an anomaly.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, 100% low sandwich score, but very low sandwich score. But, yeah, high culinary skills taught me a lot.

[Adam Carolla]

Was your mom of a culture that was not that conducive to the sandwich?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Well, Filipino. So there you go.

[Adam Carolla]

Not a good sandwich culture.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

No, no, Not a sandwich culture at all. You know, as A matter of fact, yeah. You know, I was actually at Anime Con in New York recently, and, you know, you got a little thing from the vendor guy. And it took me, like, right back to my childhood where, you know, the workers would have aluminum foil and a big dollop of rice and then, you know, some, like, you know, roasted pork. And that was lunch, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

That's Filipino lunch.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, it's a Filipino lunch. And then you do the Joe Squat and you sit there, you know, you don't even need a chair. And you eat with your hands out of the tinfoil.

[Adam Carolla]

The workers, you say?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Who were these workers? They were.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Well, they were on the base, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

On the base you grew up on?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Well, I was born in the Philippines, left before I was a year old when my biological father died. Then my stepfather, George Phillips, who is my father, as far as I'm concerned, he came back from Nam. He did two tours in Vietnam. And then, so from 1970 to 1974, we got restationed in the Philippines. And so I spent, you know, my. My early, you know, 8 years old, 12 to 12 years old there. So I, you know, obviously have some very vivid memories of that. And, yeah, you know, the gardeners and the construction workers and the, you know, the road workers, all, you know, they were all Filipinos, you know, who worked on the base. So, yeah, there was. There was a lot of that.

[Adam Carolla]

It's just very interesting because moments ago, I was in the other room and I was trying to work out this comedy bit with Rudy, my opener, and I said to him, trying to work this bit out. Where I grew up in la, there was no snow. I tried to tell my kids these horror stories from my youth, but it didn't snow and we didn't have Vietnam. Like, the Vietnam dads. They're good. They got. Oh, yeah. You're complaining about your teacher being mean or your coach yelling at you, and then they go, yeah, you've been a rice Paddy with M16 over your head. You know what that's like?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And they got Vietnam.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I realized my Vietnam was working at McDonald's.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I got. Yeah. I can tell horror stories about what it's like to work at McDonald's.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I can tell my kids, you know, you think you got it tough. You never worked at McDonald's. But that's all I got. I got McDonald's.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you have a Vietnam? Like, what was your toughest gig?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

You got into show business pretty early.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. Yes. Yes. And no. Yeah. In Texas, we have the whataburger. It's called Whataburger. You know Whataburger? No. What? As in what. What a burger?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that one.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

That was a Whataburger.

[Adam Carolla]

I thought that was the. I thought it was Mark Wahlberg. Is that not his.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

He's got the Wahlburger.

[Adam Carolla]

He's got the Wahlberger.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

This is Whataburger. That was in Texas. So I worked there. I was a breakfast cook on Padre island for a summer. My first celebrity encounter was I made a Denver omelette for Willie Nelson.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

The over the griddle cooking. That's what I did at McDonald's. It's rough if you think in terms of when you have a bad job. When you have a bad job, what you want is time to pass quickly.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Phone sales. That was my worst job, worst job ever. I didn't last long because I just. I had such guilt. I think I was selling carpet cleaning. And literally, they give you 12 sheets of the phone book back in the day, and you go through and you're calling each number you're cold calling. And, I mean, the people would just get irate.

[Adam Carolla]

What is the slow. But I'm trying to think of. So you have a horrible job, and then you get paid by the hour. And so all you want to do is get to the end of that day because you hate your job, but you can't leave because you're getting paid by the hour. And then there's certain jobs. Like, I had jobs. I delivered liquor for the Flask liquor store. And it was a job where you just load up cases of booze in a station wagon, drive them up and drop them off, and then go back in another case of booze. It wasn't a great job, but time passed quickly. Like delivery jobs, time kind of goes by on the road. Dropping off a lot of booze to the studios in places like Viacom and stuff. Like 14 cases of diet Coke. You know, bring it in. But time kind of went by. And then there was a job I had at Hoffman Travel where I just sat staring at a wall on a folding table, like, putting like, where's Merv Griffin's tickets? You know, put them in the envelope and put them over here. And I just sat and I. Time didn't move. Yeah, it stood still. And standing over a hot griddle, it stops. You just stand there sweating over this hot sheet of steel, and it doesn't move forward. And eight hours of that is a completely different experience than being on the set for eight hours or something like that.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. And that time actually flies, you know, I mean, people come to visit you on a film set and they go, oh my God, how do you do this? And you go, well, you didn't really think about it, you know, But I mean, most film sets you're there, you know, 12 hours. 12 hours a day, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Oh, by the way, I should mention etu, which is available now to stream Lou plays Brent, a director of a dark comedy horror thriller. And where do we stream this, by the way?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I think it starts on Tubi, like right now, but I think it's also been on Fandango. I think it's on a number of platforms, so not hard to find. It's, you know, Et tu, which I played director who has mounted a regional production of Julius Caesar, and hence the title, you know, Et Tu, Brute is for you.

[Adam Carolla]

How much is there still? I mean, it's an interesting wild west of show business now because there's no real.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

It's a weird world. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So there used to be. It used to be for comedians, like let's say in the 80s and the 90s, okay. Had to get a sitcom, do stand up, do standup until you get discovered. Once you get discovered, you get a sitcom, you quit doing standup. Cause who wants to do standup? You go do a sitcom and then you make that buku bucks doing the sitcom and you get syndication money and you get Seinfeld money and whatever else. And now if you talk to most comedians, they'd go, I don't really wanna do a stand up, I don't wanna do a sitcom that sounds lame. I don't wanna have to do that. I'd rather go travel around. I'd rather do my PO that do stand up. And a million different variations of creative endeavors involving comedy. So then for you again, the plan was get on a series, get a.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Job.

[Adam Carolla]

Acting in comedy and show business. It's not really a job, but if you get on a long running series, TV show, it can be a job. Yeah, it can be like a regular job, but you get paid like you're in show business. And that would become the goal for certain people, but not for George Clooney. He doesn't want to do that. He wants to do something else or direct or produce. So for you, I don't even know, like, I don't know if the end all be all is what anything used to be. Like get on a long running TV show.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

It's really different, man. You know, I Mean, and it's, you know, it's more of a, you know, gig economy than ever before, you know, in, In. In the business. But the one thing that's really nice, that has actually has changed is, you know, when I started in the 80s and the, you know, early 90s, it's like, you know, you're. Okay, you're a movie actor or you're a TV actor or, you know, a theater actor. And, and you really did not cross, you know, boundaries. And now everybody's doing everything, you know, I mean, please. And, you know, Sam Jackson is raking in the money, you know, asking you what's in your wallet. You know what I mean? And it doesn't matter. There are a very, very elite few who don't do television. But you got Meryl Streep doing tv, you got Robert De Niro doing tv, you know, so there is no stigma anymore to. Not just how you maintain your fame, but. But in some ways, the more visible you are, the better it is for everybody. Now, you know, I would love to, you know, I live in New York now because I did a series called Prodigal Son, and then Fox, like, yanked that after two seasons, which was a real shame. But I'm telling you, man, I'd be thrilled to continue doing that. But you have to worry about in success. You better like the gig. You know, I can't imagine being. And I played a lot of cops, you know, I can't imagine being that guy who's like, hey, you're a loose cannon, mister. All right, watch your back out there, kid. You know, and, and, and, and doing that day in, day out for, you know, 10 seasons. I mean, that, that, that, that would be rough, you know, so I don't want that kind of job. But, but, you know, if, if the right series came along, man, I, I'd, you know, I'd jump at it. I, I actually am in a comedy series that comes on HBO this fall, in October. Tim Robinson. Yeah. Called the Chair Company, and I play his boss. And it's comedy, which is, you know, And I gotta say, the process of doing that show is.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait a minute. Tim Robbins or Tim Robbins son?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Tim Robbins son.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I'm trying to think which one Tim Robinson is.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

He just had a movie out called Friendship with Paul Rudd. He was Detroiters, I Think youk Should Be Leaving. Yeah, that guy. And he's hilarious. I mean, he really is hilarious. He's got a very specific brand, you know, kind of cringy, kind of, you know, sometimes crazy, you know, humor and he, he created this show, the Chair Company with Zack Canaan. And. And for me, it's a totally different process, man. I, you know, I learn my lines, I show up and I do the thing, but then they will, like, change things up, you know, at the drop of a hat or, I mean, even after you shot the master, it's like, well, okay, let's do something different with that, you know? And it's like, oh, wow. Okay. So, yeah, having to be really fluid and really, you know, kind of just going with the flow and trusting the comedy gods, you know, that, you know, okay, I hope this is funny. I think it's funny, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it strikes me that comedy is a lot more fluid versus drama, because drama, you do a scene and you go, what do we need to accomplish in this scene? Well, in this scene, he needs to let him know that he's his son and that has been lied to by the stepmom the whole time. And then that guy kicks in the door and then this happens and you go, okay, that's what we need to do. Yes, comedy, you have a scene, but it's gotta be funny. It's not. We just convey information and then we move on to the next scene. And comedy, you have to hear it out loud in order to really understand what. Understand it. And you hear it out loud and you go, I'm not laughing. And if I'm not laughing, then this isn't good. So now what we need to do is tweak this. It's like a constant tweaking to capture this thing that is invisible and can't really be captured or even described, but we'll know it when we hear it.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Exactly. And so it's a living thing and it's very fluid and it's funny. I was telling my wife, it's like. And I'm directing a lot of TV these days too. And like you said, there is a finite goal. This is what we're getting to. This is what we know. Here's the script. What we had to accomplish in a 12 hour day. I would tell my wife when I would come back from a day on the chair company, she'd be like, well, how'd it go? And it's like, I think it went really well. I mean, on any other drama or, you know, even when I direct, it's like, at the end of the day, I know what that scene's gonna be. I know how it's gonna cut, I know what it's gonna come across. I would leave set sometimes on the chair company going, I have no freaking clue which angles are gonna take on this. But, you know, I trust them to make it good.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I done a few comedies and it's always like, you hope that it works, but you're never quite sure because there's no audience. And then if you do stand up, then there's an audience or even a live TV show, there's an audience. So you get a pretty good idea for it. So comedy with no audience means no compass. I mean, that means I don't know exactly what this was. Drama with no audience. You still know what it is. The guy cried. It was emotional. Spittle came out of his mouth.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

We hugged.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, it worked. The cameraman was tearing up. You know what I mean? Like, you know what you got, you know, you got a scene. But comedy's like, I don't know if we know.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I was, you know what? I was always grateful on the chair comedy. I was always grateful when I could see the shoulders of the camera guys, you know, and gals. One in particular, Jenny, she was wonderful. I would make her laugh and it's like, okay, if Jane thought it was funny, then I'm good.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Show Announcer]

The Adam Carolla SHOW presents Lou Diamond Phillips birthday cocktail party for February 17th. Let's see who's invited. Here's American businessman and the chairman and CEO of IBM, Thomas J. Watson. Here's a French politician who's the namesake of the Maginot line, Andre Maginot. Let's welcome legendary actor Hal Holbrook, former coach of the Philadelphia Eagles. Buddy Ryan is here. From the Cleveland Browns, it's Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown. Here's the co founder of the Black Panther Party, Huey P. Newton. Actress Renee Russo is here. From Home Improvement, it's Richard Karn. Larry the Cable Guy just walked in. Here's filmmaker Michael Bay. From Green Day, it's Billy Joe Armstrong. And from Foo Fighters fame, Taylor Hawkins. Actor Jerry o' Connell joined the party. Here's folk singer and daughter of Arlo, Sarah Lee Guthrie. Paris Hilton just walked in. Here's singer Ed sheeran. And number 23, Michael Jordan. Lou Diamond Phillips is on the Adam Carolla Show.

[Adam Carolla]

Pretty impressive.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I, I am incredibly impressed with myself. Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

What a guest list that was.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't even know if you'd make your own list.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

No, probably not.

[Adam Carolla]

Good stat, star studded. There's only so much room in the marquee.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

[Adam Carolla]

That is a packed list.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

It is. It is. February 17th was a good day for me.

[Adam Carolla]

I've sat here and seen them come and seen them go. But that is a top shelf, at least top five lists. And I've heard 300 of those lists.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

That's. Well, I'm proud to have been on it.

[Adam Carolla]

You got a good birthday list, man.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. It's powerful. It is a statement that was made.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And also I feel like you could walk up and talk to any of those people and they'd have to talk to you because you share a birthday with them.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Exactly. Well, I mean, the funny thing is like I know Richard Carnes. I know Jerry o'.

[Adam Carolla]

Connell.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

It's like, hey, hey, we share a birthday. You know, I don't think I'd be walking up to, you know, Michael Jordan.

[Adam Carolla]

With the same birthday.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I would, but I could. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a good icebreaker Same birthday. Listen, I. I get the left handed thing every once in a while, like I'm signing an autograph, they go, hey, I'm left handed. And I go, yeah, all right. So Hitler was probably left handed. Good. So that's enough. But same birthday, you could go to Jordan.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

That's a good one. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I was thinking about the politician Maginot of the Maginot Line, and I thought, it's gotta be a little bittersweet for him because at one point you're probably feeling pretty good about yourself when they build the Mashinot Line and name it after you. For the kids listening, that was just a giant line rail system, underground tunnels, turrets and everything. And I guess France just, basically just built a wall around France. And they were sort of great, Wally, but newer version of a Great wall of this thing where they go, well, look, if we just have a rail system and tunnels and turrets and barracks and kitchens and everything we need, then we will just surround ourselves with guns and troops, and then no one could ever invade France. And they probably started building it in like 1928 or something, because they were thinking about World War I. And then at some point, World War II broke out and Hitler was like, well, we'll just fire up the Messerschmitts and the Stukas and we'll just fly right over the Maginot Line, and then we'll blitzkrieg and bomb you guys, and then you guys will surrender. So now if you're Maginot, you go, well, it was quite an honor to have this whole system named after moi. But every time it gets brought up, it was like, maginot, not effective. Hitler flew right over and bombed France into submission.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

But it looked like a good idea in the beginning, you know, and then suddenly, you know, it is obsolete.

[Adam Carolla]

It did not work.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it did not slow anybody down. So I don't know, there's probably some Maginots floating around like great granddaughters and stuff like that.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, yeah. She says, don't bring it up.

[Adam Carolla]

Don't bring up the Maginot Line. What year was the Maginot Line? What year was it complete? I guess. And I guess if you just finished World War I, where everyone was all dug in and trenches and stuff, you'd probably go, this seems like a good idea to circle our country with magnifique. Yes. But let's see. Sacle bleu. What would you say if you're upset exactly. As soon as you saw it, Hitler and his first airplanes flying over the top of it at 400 miles an hour. You had to think, this is not good. And that's what happened to the Maginot Line. But I never knew it was named after a politician. And I don't know if it's still there. Maginot Line was built between 29 and 36. I said 29. It's good. And I guess it was pretty much done. It got updated in 1940. They literally put the finishing touches on the Maginot Line, and then everyone flew over the top of it and bombed London and France. Well, I mean, obviously France was the first, Poland was the first, and then France. But the whole point is, it did not slow Hitler down at all. They probably were laughing as they flew over it, just looking down, going, nice. That worked.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. I don't know what's worth. What's a bigger waste of money, the Maginot Line or us building a bullet train from Bakersfield to Merced. I think that's our machine. O Line.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

They're building a bullet train from Bakersfield.

[Adam Carolla]

To California is building. Or maybe they threw in the towel. But we. We are. Our Maginot Line is a bullet train from Bakersfield to Merced.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

There's that much traffic between Bakersfield and Merced.

[Adam Carolla]

Huh? It's an interesting concept. I'm glad you brought it up. Which is there's something very European and cosmopolitan and advanced about a bullet train.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

People love, or, you know, Japanese, the notion of it. Yeah, it sounds good. Yeah. And it's weird because a train sounds old, but a bullet train sounds new. It's kind of a weird. Not many things can be olden times and futuristic at the same time. You know what I mean?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

No, I'm with you.

[Adam Carolla]

But it's weird. Like a rocket ship doesn't sound old and new, it just sounds new. You know what I mean? The only one that's old and new is a tablet. Tablet goes back to biblical times. And then Apple makes a tablet. Yes, you order at Starbucks with a tablet, but. All right, let's not get mired in that. But there's something futuristic about a bullet train. And I think California decided we needed a bullet train. And so we figured, well, we're gonna connect San Diego with San Francisco via bullet train.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

That would make more sense to me.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, we need to start with a run. And that run was Bakersfield to Merced, which nobody travels from Bakersfield to Merced. And if they did, they just do it in an suv. But they don't like that because that feels old. So then we Started a train, but it never got finished. And I don't think we're ever gonna finish it. But I think that's our Maginot Line. I think that's our waste of money that everyone's. Now, there's 10 Southwest flights that flew over that train in the time we were talking about it. And that's Bas Hitler and his Messerschmitts.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

But with Southwest, you get peanuts.

[Adam Carolla]

You get.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

No, not anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

No. They pulled the peanuts. They pulled the peanuts.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

The best part about Southwest was the peanuts.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then the seasonal switch, they'd go from peanuts to honey roasted peanuts at some point.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

I do remember that. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I could sit there just waiting in anticipation. Which peanut? Are we good? What's the date? When do we get our honey roasted? And now it's pretzel twists.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's too dangerous to fly with peanuts.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Too many peanut allergies. How come I never met a kid with a peanut allergy my entire youth?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You didn't grow up with any peanut allergy kids, did you?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

No, I didn't. No.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, if somebody. I'm going by my friends in my youth, but if I had found out that one of my friends was allergic to peanut butter or any of my friends did, we would have taken Jif, spread it open, face on a piece of Wonder Bread, and stuck it to him like Tom Hanks did the sticky bomb in Saving Private Ryan to the tank treads. We would have just taken an open face and slapped it on that guy's forehead. There's no. No doubt that if I announced I was allergic to peanuts to my buddy Ray, I would have got a peanut sticky bomb on my forehead.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

On the forehead. Yeah. That's the place to put it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And maybe the back if they came up behind me.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

But forehead only if you're wearing a white shirt.

[Adam Carolla]

But nobody I knew. Now, half the people.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Although, yeah, I do recall in my youth, people with, like, strawberry allergies or shellfish, you know, that kind of thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Shellfish. I never found out who was allergic to shellfish. Cause shellfish. I grew up in North Hollywood, and shellfish would have been expensive and non existent. Like, there was no, oh, we doing lobster, we doing shrimp. Then that notion of somebody buying shrimp or lobster or something, crab, that would have been an insane thing. Now, you had the Filipino mom.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yes, exactly. So there was a lot.

[Adam Carolla]

She got into it.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, big time.

[Adam Carolla]

What'd she do?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

What's that?

[Adam Carolla]

What'd she cook you?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. No, I mean, we would I grew up in Corpus Christi, which is like right there, you know, in the Gulf of Mexico. And a lot of we would go shrimping with shrimp nets and, you know, go crabbing with a, you know, chicken neck and that kind of thing. How would you.

[Adam Carolla]

There was a lot of that.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

There's a couple of things, actually. I used to actually wade out into the Laguna Madre with a net and you could literally scoop them up.

[Adam Carolla]

Crab.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, crab. But also, if you were going to the channel or something like that, you would literally get a chicken neck on a string and you throw it in and the crabs won't let go. They will not let go.

[Adam Carolla]

They would grab it.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

They would grab the claw with the claw and then you just pull them up. You pull them up slowly enough and they're greedy little bastards, so they will literally not let go until you get them to the top of the water and then you scoop them up with a net.

[Adam Carolla]

And then how big would they be or how big would they have to be? Or did you care?

[Mike Vecchione]

No.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, you would care. I mean, but yeah, blue crab size, you know, you didn't want them too small, but then the small ones, you know, wouldn't grab onto a chicken neck.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. So it was a self selecting group of crab.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Kind of. Sort of. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And you'd pull them up and you bring them home to your Filipino mama.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And what would she do with them?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Boil them up. We'd have a crab boil, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

And how'd you catch a shrimp?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

With a net? Yeah, yeah. That requires two people. You get on either side of the net and you go. You go out into the grass and then they call it pushing up, you know, I'm gonna go push up some shrimp, you know, and literally two people on either side of a net and, you know, you know, go. Go through the. The seagrass or whatever in shallow water. And a lot of times you could actually just see them, you know, like. Like popcorn. It would just be popping up everywhere. You know, if you got into a.

[Adam Carolla]

Good bunch of them, would your mom send you out or would you do this on your own?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Sometimes, yeah. You know, sometimes she'd send me out. You know, my dad was into it too. He was a big fisherman. Still is.

[Adam Carolla]

How'd they do the shrimp? How'd your mom do the shrimp?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Same thing. Boil them up, man. Pretty, pretty straight ahead.

[Adam Carolla]

It's so weird when you're from the San Fernando Valley, because none of that exists.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, right. You're not doing that.

[Adam Carolla]

And I talk to people, you know, they grew up in Montana, it's like, we go hunting. We get venison. My dad make jerky out. We'd eat it all winter, you know, all this stuff. And then there's the guys in Minnesota, go ice fishing and all that stuff. And then there's just North Hollywood. Like, you just sit around.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You go to the Ralphs. That's what you do.

[Adam Carolla]

You just go to the Ralphs. Yeah, well, Lucky's, but, yeah, there was nothing. It was weird. It's like, I knew a guy who had a dog, and that's, like, as close to nature as we got. There was no outdoorsy. I mean, everything was outdoors, but there was no outdoorsman stuff going on.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I didn't know anyone who had a fishing pole.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

There's nothing. We're just like. Well, we. I mean, it's weird to be landlocked and live on the coast, but if you live in North Hollywood and you don't have a car that's capable of going up the pass, the Sepulveda Pass, without overheating, you're landlocked.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And we just sat there and, you know, ate top ramen. There's nothing that, you know, Hungry man, frozen dinners. There wasn't any of that.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Well, we had plenty of that, too, in Texas. But, yeah, we had the beach, you know, so it was there.

[Adam Carolla]

It had to be satisfying to go out and do that.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Loved it.

[Adam Carolla]

Show up with a bounty of crab for your mom. Yeah.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Pickle bucket.

[Adam Carolla]

And she'd. She'd boil it up.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

She'd drop them in while they're still alive.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Pretty much. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

See, that's the other thing. It would have bothered me if they were trying to hang on to something.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then just bang them with the hammer.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. No. Yeah. It's interesting because, you know, you do a lot of, you know, like, in Baltimore or whatever, you get a shrimp boiler. You get a. You know, or New Orleans or someplace like that. Yeah. You literally just put out, like, a bunch of newspaper and just, boom, there they are. And you got a little hammer, and you got your thing, and you just sit there, you know, with the whole family around, you know, picking crab meat.

[Adam Carolla]

What'd your mom do for sides? She was.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You know, it's interesting because she spent a lot of time in the south, you know, I mean, obviously Texas. But, I mean, you know, my dad. My biological father's family is from Georgia. I just actually saw a bunch of them recently for the first time in, like, 30 years. But, you know, she would have this Southern Filipino accent. Y', all, that was so strange, you know, And. And so her sides were always, you know, like baked potato, you know, corn, you know, on the cob, you know, French fries, you know, and. And. And a lot of canned vegetables. You know, the canned green beans, the canned corn, the canned spinach, even, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. So that was. It was very, you know, kind of the white trash cuisine.

[Adam Carolla]

And I know you kind of channel your dad in certain roles.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Cause he had a real kind of Texas sheriff thing going on. Right.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So it's gotta be weird to have your dad and your mom both living in your head. Cause your mom sounded like that. Your dad sounded like, oh, my dad.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Just did a role. Last time I was on your show, I was, you know, promoting that film called Get Fast. And I pretty much did my dad's, you know, accent for that role because I played a cowboy. But, yeah, he still sounds like that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Back and then you're old enough to be around when people just thought stuff was weird. You know what I mean? Like, guy was gay. That was weird. One guy. There was some guy whose leg was 2 inches shorter than the other leg, and they had the shoe that had the thicker heel on it or sole on it. It's like that weird. You know, it's like everything was always weird. So you. From my definition of that. And that time came from a weird family. Yeah.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

But it's interesting because I didn't feel weird until. Literally until I got to, like, college, you know, and then to Hollywood, you know, my best friends. You know, in high school, there was the black quarterback, Danny, who became an amazing teacher, Tony, who was Mexican, German. And then, you know, our white friend Rob, who was gay.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, so you covered it all.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, no, we kind of. And we just sort of gravitated toward each other and became friends without having to, you know, to engineer, you know, this diversity nucleus that we had. And so, yeah, I didn't feel weird until all of a sudden I got into a place where I was suddenly categorized, you know? But in high school, I wasn't really categorized.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, you break out with Richie Valens Hispanic. And you have Hispanic. Well, tones and features and things, but not Hispanic.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. And then. So that's a little weird. Cause you're playing Hispanic, and now you got other roles to do, but you're not gonna be Hispanic. Well, stand and deliver. You were Hispanic.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So your first big breakout roles were Hispanic, but you're not Hispanic.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Which is a weird kind of place to be in as an actor, I guess.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. And now it's interesting and we've had this conversation. I probably wouldn't be cast in those roles today if I was a 24 year old, you know, Filipino American actor. They wouldn't see me for those roles.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

But I did. The first film that I wrote that got produced was a thing called Ambition. Actually, I take that back. I co wrote Dangerous Touch, which I directed. But I wrote Ambition, I wrote myself as a Filipino. And Cecilia Peck was my leading lady and her father, Gregory Peck, you know. And so I got to go have a really lovely dinner at Gregory's house. And he said to me, lou, ya. You put me in mind of my good friend Tony Quinn. And it was like, wow, okay, that, you know, that was like Anthony Quinn. Anthony Quinn. And that was a huge compliment. But he was, you know, Zorba the Greek. See, he played Greek, he played Inuit, he played Latino, he played native, he played those things.

[Adam Carolla]

Played a dad at the age of like 88. Well, I think he had a kid. He did look up Anthony Quinn because I think he had a kid like well into his 80s. Yeah, but keep going.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Well, no, no, no. I mean, and you're seeing Pacino and De Niro do that now, it's like, wow, you got guys, you still got game. Look at you.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, but so what you learned is you could play whomever.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yes, yes. And a little bit more obviously aware of that now. I mean, I am proud of the fact that I opened up the door for a lot of other actors that followed me. And we now have more native actors, we have more Latino actors of note. But the early films that I did, you know, even Young Guns, you know, open the door for that. Open. You know, I mean, you know, when you, when you think about it, I'm the only brown brat packer, you know, and Young Guns.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I just read here you fell off your horse, you got dragged for 100ft.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yards and sorry, yards by a noose around my neck. That was. I didn't. The horse threw me, but there was a noose around my neck that wrapped around the saddle horn. And that's, you know, that's how he. That's how he dragged it me, man. It was ridiculous.

[Adam Carolla]

So you are on the horse y. 100 yards. A lot further than 100ft.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Look at that.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you still got scars up and down your elbow.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, yeah, he broke it. What is that, about six inches long? Broke it in four places, man.

[Adam Carolla]

So what happened? Go the whole walk us through it.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Well, it was, it Was pretty stupid.

[Adam Carolla]

And sorry Anthony quit. Quinn had a kid when he was 81.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Nice.

[Adam Carolla]

Nice, but sorry. Go ahead.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah. It was a scene that wasn't even scripted. It was the big breakout scene in Young Guns 2 where Emilio comes wearing the hood. And then all of a sudden, the real plan shows up and all hell breaks loose and whatnot. And I got these plastic shackles on my wrist, a very real noose around my neck, because the scene was not scripted, so they didn't know to make a breakaway.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You know, and so now I'm supposed to ride into this alley that is probably no wider than. Than your studio here, and I ride in one way, and Emilio rides in the other way. And they got, you know, stunt guys, you know, with. With torches and shooting guns and going, you know, all this mayhem going on. My horse Arrow, by the way, was an asshole. He was. It was hard to get him to stop on a mark. He was. He threw Alan Ruck in rehearsal, and they'd already bought all the horses, so they go, what are we gonna do with that? I'll give them to Lou. Lou can ride, you know. So what I'm supposed to do now is ride this horse in, stop it on a mark, let go of the reins, put my hands on the wall next to me where there is an explosive device, a squib, and Emilio's gonna pull off a full load. He's gonna go bang. Literally right by my horse's head. And then this is gonna blow up. And that ostensibly breaks the shackles on your hands. On my hands. Okay. So they described this to me, and I tell the first. I said, dude, this is. You know, you're shooting a full load off by this horse's head. It's like a starting gun. What do you think he's gonna do? He goes, well, you're a good rider. I said, yeah, I'm a good rider with my hands on the reins. I'm turned around sideways on this man, you know, And I said, let us ride in. And because it wasn't scripted, he was like. They'd already set up, like, a three camera setup because. No, no, no, man, I gotta. I gotta get this in one. I gotta get this quickly. We're behind schedule, of course, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

And I said, I'll give you one take. And. But I need to see a producer because this is. This is a little fucked up, you know, And. And honestly, this is the. That. That was a hard lesson to learn, you know, to. To listen to my gut. And I. You know, I've Never made that mistake again. But, yeah, sure enough, you know, Emilio comes in. I get the horse finally stopped. I gotta say, Stevie Hanna was a wrangler on this, and. And he was doing everything to try to, you know, get control of the horse laying on the ground. No hearing the shot. Okay, you know, monofilament. No, that's the end. The horse breaks it. You know, he was doing all this stuff to try and, you know, so what he ended up doing was getting a bunch of the other wranglers and. And going to the end of the alley where they figured the horse was going to bolt so they could grab him. The horse didn't go that way. He reared up.

[Adam Carolla]

They fired the shot.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

They fired the shot. The horse rears up. I'm falling. And I had two thoughts as I'm falling. I was thinking, I told you so. And then when I hit the ground, it was like the noose, and I got my hands in it, and the horse took off. He actually turned around and went the other way.

[Adam Carolla]

And the noose was around your neck and tied to the horn of the saddle.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

With about how much slack?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Enough to where I was pulled behind him like I was water skiing, you know, but face first. And he was kicking me. And when I say 100 yards, it wasn't 100 yards straight. He took me through a pile of kindling. We shattered a wagon wheel. He took me through that, and he's kicking me the whole time. And what broke my arm was that I caught a glancing blow, you know, to the head, which explains a lot. But, you know, I threw my arm up, and that's when he got me, you know, on the arm. And what actually saved my life because, you know, there was desert and then Mexico. We were in Cerrillos, New Mexico, but there were miles and miles and miles of desert. We were out in the middle of nowhere on this, you know, western, you know, film set. He was heading for a gate, and my leg got caught on the railroad tie that was the side of the gate, and that spun me around. It took a chunk out of my kneecap. That got broke as well. And that snapped the rope.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah, that snapped the rope. And the horse took off and later showed up at the barn. But if he had kept running, I would have been a rag. I would have been, ah, wow. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And what did they do with you after that? I mean, how did you.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Well, what was weird is I only had one scene left. I mean, literally, it was going to be my introduction scene in the film. So they Just scrapped that. And that's literally how I left the movie.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, no more. They didn't film me after that.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

No, no, I was done. I was done. It was my last scene on a horse.

[Adam Carolla]

In today's world, there would have been a lawsuit. Right.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You know, the thing that pisses me off, to be really honest, is I said, I. I gotta see this, man. Because, I mean, we were rolling, right? You know, and. And they said, you know, the producers went, oh, no. You know, I'm really sorry. The. The. The film got destroyed in the lab. I'm like, come on, right? I'm not gonna sue you guys. Come on. I'd like to see me get the.

[Adam Carolla]

Kicked out of me by a horse.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

That would have been fun.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Yeah. Be a good screensaver too, right? Oh, man. Well, I'm glad you told me that story, because that sounds painful. It was, but it's also. Anyone who's done Anything Goes remembers those conversations where you go, look, if I do this, then this is gonna happen, and then that's gonna happen. They go, no, I got a different head on it. And then while it's happening, you always think to yourself, you may be in pain and you may be scared. But the first thought is, this is exactly what I said, what was gonna happen. The movie at 2 is available the stream. And also, where do we see. You can go to Lou D. Phillips as well. We can. Also, where do we see your wife's artwork as well?

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Oh, my goodness. Well, first of all, we wrote two books. I did the writing. She illustrated both of them. Yeah. The Tinderbox Soldier of Indira and the Tinderbox Underground Movement. We wrote the sequel because the first one did so well. She illustrated both those books, but she is on Instagram. Yvphil, I think, is her handle on that. And she does some really, really amazing work. She's got a ton of followers and people. People are digging her. Ah, there it is right there. Yeah. Yv. Phil.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. She's an amazing artist.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, always good catching up with you, Lou.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

You as well, Adam. You as well.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Jason Mayhem Miller]

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[Mike Vecchione]

I was in Las Vegas performing. There's no help for gamblers. There's one song as you drive into Las Vegas says gambling problem, please call this number. That's ineffective. It should at least say gambling problem. I bet you won't call this number. That would be more effective because these people have a gambling problem.

[Show Announcer]

Mike Vecchione is on the Adam Carolla show.

[Adam Carolla]

Good to see you, Mike.

[Mike Vecchione]

Thanks Adam. Nice to meet you, man. Thanks for having me in.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Sure.

[Adam Carolla]

Mike's got it a special low income white. It's on YouTube as we now speak. It's got coming up on 300,000 views, which is solid.

[Mike Vecchione]

It's solid start.

[Adam Carolla]

Solid start.

[Mike Vecchione]

We got some momentum going into it and there's a lot of low income whites that haven't watched it yet. So it's for free on YouTube which should be a selling point.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's funny, it's a non selling selling point, right?

[Mike Vecchione]

Watch it for free.

[Adam Carolla]

Watch it for free.

[Mike Vecchione]

And I read the comments and some people are just like, this is. I mean, what does this guy do? It's like just shut it off. You can shut it off.

[Adam Carolla]

I do love.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I tell him, get off my Internet.

[Adam Carolla]

I do love when people do that. When they go like Ben Shapiro's Coming to campus to speak. This isn't like, don't go, don't go, don't go. I went. Literally, I went to go find. I went through the, like, roster of all the activities that took place on Stanford or Berkeley's campus once, right? And it was like indigenous peoples, you know, tribal, ceremonial, whatever. I was like, out. And then there was like, lesbian theory, whatever bout. And then there's the trans thing. And I was like, all shit, I wouldn't go to.

[Mike Vecchione]

Right?

[Adam Carolla]

But I'm not gonna stop them from doing that.

[Mike Vecchione]

You're not trying to deplatform.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I'm like, I every. There's millions of concerts I don't want to go to, but I just don't go. I don't go. I don't go and go, well, you know, I'm gonna go cancel the Lilith there. I would just not go to the.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I've been protesting for 12 years. Ain't done shit.

[Adam Carolla]

Ain't done shit. And also, you know, being okay, so, you know, I'm guessing porn white. I grew up porn white. Mayhem. Porn white.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Allegedly.

[Adam Carolla]

Allegedly. What is this thing where it's like, people are always like, who's gonna do these jobs? Who's gonna clean the toilet? Who's gonna make up the bed? Like, who's.

[Mike Vecchione]

Well, now we have an answer. AI. AI is gonna do it. Call in a drone.

[Adam Carolla]

I tell people all the time, you don't understand. There's poor white people. Like, everyone I grew up with did this shit, man.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I told my robot to clean the shitter. He said, I'm sorry, Mayhem. I can't do that.

[Mike Vecchione]

But the argument is that the poor Americans don't want to do these jobs anymore. They don't want to do the jobs anymore. So what's your response to that?

[Adam Carolla]

I didn't want to do the jobs either. I had to do the jobs. I cleaned. I was thinking about it the other day. I cleaned carpets, which is a horrible, horrible job.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yes, it's very tough.

[Adam Carolla]

And it was steam cleaning, not the shampoo or the hard restaurants. We'd go in and do restaurants. I clean with Ray Oldhoffer, Chris Bohm, Todd Euler, Adam Carolla, and another white guy, Willie Maldonado, the carpet cleaning white guy.

[Mike Vecchione]

Maldonado does not sound white. I'm sorry, I have to call you out on that.

[Adam Carolla]

He was a white guy. The whole point is there wasn't any. We didn't work with any Hispanics. We were just poor dudes who needed a job. So we. They will do it, but it's poor people who do it, by the way. Rich Mexicans won't clean carpets.

[Mike Vecchione]

Right. I don't know. I worked at a car wash when I was in high school and I was the only English speaker that worked there. So my experience has been different. It's in Florida, South Florida. So as a summer job, I got the job with a friend of mine. We were both on the football team, and after one day, he quit. He's like, I'm not doing this anymore. And I had this thing in my head, I can't quit anything. So I just did it for the whole summer.

[Adam Carolla]

And were you just like a shag boy, just wiping stuff down?

[Mike Vecchione]

I mean, shag boy is a sexy way to put it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I had a very similar experience in Fayetteville, North Carolina, and it was me, a bunch of black dudes and zero. Mexican.

[Adam Carolla]

No.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Spanish speaking.

[Mike Vecchione]

No.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. It was a completely different vibe, yo. But then also the next summer, I did it in a different city. All Spanish speaking. The only one. So I get it. There's like some type of blue collar area where there's some overlap there.

[Mike Vecchione]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I just say poor people will do jobs other people don't want to do in general unless you give them an option. If you give them an option and you go, you can stay home and we'll pay you, then they'll take that option.

[Mike Vecchione]

I have friends who are wrestling coaches and they're like, in the areas. I used to get these tough white kids to come out and they would wrestle. He's like, that doesn't exist anymore. Those kids don't come out, out for the team anymore. Those kids are like smoking weed, trying to buy a car. They're not. They're not coming. They're not like, hard. It's not. The times have changed and we've gotten a little bit softer as a society now. So I think there's more options. Everybody's on TikTok.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Yeah. We don't let them play football anymore.

[Mike Vecchione]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, rich white kids don't play football. Right. I mean, there was. I can't remember his name, but there was a linebacker who was kind of a standout. I don't know if he was all pro, but he was like a. A starter and a kind of a big deal linebacker for The San Francisco 49ers. Gotta be about eight years ago.

[Mike Vecchione]

After one year, he retired.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And then everyone's like, what's he retiring for? And I'm like, what does his dad do? And he runs a hedge fund and he went in with his dad. And I'm like, yeah, that guy retires. Michael Irvin had 14 brothers, all living under the poverty line and had to provide for his. He's not quitting that job. But no one's gonna get their head bashed in if their dad runs a hedge fund. So that's what they do.

[Mike Vecchione]

But there was a thing. I mean, I understand the whole CTE thing. I do understand it. But there is something good to contact. Contact football. It all. You know what I mean? It keeps you nice and humble. And that's why on Twitter, everybody just is rampant, just saying whatever they want, because there's no consequence coming back immediately. In football, if you run headfirst into another person, like, you're gonna feel. They're gonna feel it, and everybody stays honest.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, no. We have weeded out the things that keep us honest in our virtual, sort of digital world now.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And also the legal system has kept everybody safe from consequence. If you jab a guy in the face, oh, well, you're going down.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. People need the feeling of sort of getting your ass kicked by another.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's missing now.

[Adam Carolla]

It is missing. It's missing. It always kind of. It always keeps you where you need to be. Cause there's always a situation where you go, I can take this guy, that guy, and the next guy, but then this guy. I can't. And that is. It keeps you even, and it sort of keeps you working. And I don't. I. You know, I don't. We had a guy when I was playing high school football, and his name was Ono Zwanfeld, and he played for Canoga park, and I knew him because he was a giant guy.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Jewish, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. Big Jew. All the interior line guys were always Jewish. And Ono ended up going to UCLA on a free ride. And he was just for high school back then, you know, 66250. Like, just a big. Oh, my. Big ass.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

What a man.

[Adam Carolla]

Big dude. But I was like, I know Ono's a big dude, and I know he's on the all whatever roster. And I knew the guys that were made the all league team or whatever, but I was like, I could still blow this guy out of here. And we were down on the goal line, and they called like, a dive play, and Ono was, like, lined up, squared up on me, and I was like, like, I'm gonna blow this guy out of here. And I couldn't. And then I went back to the huddle and I was like, God damn it. Call another dive. Call another dive. I'm gonna blow this guy out of here. I'm gonna blow him out. And I got down and I got low, and I could not. I could not blow him out. And I was like, all right. Well, I learned something about myself.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You learned your limits.

[Adam Carolla]

And Ono Zwanfeld, who's now, I think, a realtor guy, but did go, he's a realtor. Yeah. Ono Zwanfeld.

[Mike Vecchione]

Looks like he lost weight.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he was lean. He was big and lean. I mean, he was.

[Mike Vecchione]

I want that guy to put me in a home. I like the way he looks. Guy looks like he could show me some track lighting.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm gonna blow him out of this mortgage rate.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. He's a commercial realtor, I guess. I never had any pee with him. I was just like, I'm gonna blow this guy out of here. And I could not. It didn't happen. And I had to think about that. That I still think about it. It's been a while, man.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

High school. Yeah. I remember I shot a double egg on a guy who blasted me like I hit a brick wall. Yeah. And flattened me to the mat so bad that I grabbed him by the nuts. So I'm ashamed of it to this day. Okay. But I was not getting pinned in one second. Instead, I got pinned, like, 12 seconds.

[Mike Vecchione]

That's always humble monsters. I wrestled also to get pinned in a gymnasium full of people. Thank God there was no YouTube back then. That's humiliate. I mean, it just really. Is it really.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You put yourself out there.

[Mike Vecchione]

That's right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And sometimes you come up short.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. But we need it.

[Mike Vecchione]

Physical consequences. Yeah. I basically getting your bell rung.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, God. I remember. I don't know whenever I wrote my first book, but I just said, look, we took down the gym ropes because we didn't want to humiliate the kids who couldn't make it up the gym ropes. And I'm like, taking down the gym ropes doesn't solve your problem because I have fat kids who aren't going anywhere. Figure out why that fat kid isn't getting up the gym rope, and then let's help him get up the gym, and let's light the gym rope on fire, see if he doesn't make it up.

[Mike Vecchione]

That's a little tough.

[Adam Carolla]

I bet he makes it up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Pit bulls at the bottom.

[Adam Carolla]

We're gonna light this gym rope. My whole point is the solution is not removing the gym rope. No. And that's where we're at. We just decided to remove all this stuff and make everything as safe as possible.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It seems like it's swinging back a bit there, Ace. I think that everybody's aware of the problem now. And then we got tikt, now we're going, oh, wait a minute, let's harden up.

[Mike Vecchione]

Well, if you have any moniker of mental toughness now, it's like having a superpower. So that's a good aspect. If you raise your kids any kind of old school way where they have to work through adversity and figure it out. But there's guys I wrestle with who are very talented and tough and they didn't have the same experience I had because they were just winning all the time effortlessly because they were so good. And that happens sometimes. But if you like, if you're just not good at a sport but you keep grinding and you keep working, you're gonna have a much different experience and it's more reflective of what you're gonna.

[Adam Carolla]

Go through in life. No, I've said a million times, I got a 19 year old son, he doesn't have to be the best or the brightest, the most talented just to be able to work in this world. Now just having a good work ethic and you will zoom to the top of the fucking ladder because everyone is A lazy, B, self entitled and C, probably stoned. I think way too many people are eating edibles and just vaping. And like, I think a lot of young guys are baked a lot of the time, or at least were baked for a significant period of time and it's dull.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

For many years I put a big handicap on myself cause I was like, had mountains of weed behind me and was like whatever all day. And it does, it like puts you at a level that you can't cross up over.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't think people really fully realize that there's a lot of guys, a lot of young guys who've worked for me over the years. And you're like, why doesn't that guy want to go out and make some hay while the sun is shining? Like, where's the motor? You know, like when I came up, I came up with Jimmy Kimmel, you know, that guy was like, what's next? What are we doing next? Hungry, let's do something, let's go. You know. And then I started running these all young guys and they were like, I'm gonna hang out. Like I'd go to them, what are you doing this weekend? And they'd go, so the Taste of Encino is doing a thing where you can go down there and get all the sushi you want and all the free beer you want. It would only cost $4. And I'm like, where's the work part of life? And then I realized, I think a lot of it was pot driven. I think a lot of them smoked.

[Mike Vecchione]

Well, it doesn't help that there's a store on every corner now. I'm for the legalization of it, I really am, but it's like. And taxing it. But it's like in New York, where I live, it's like there's a store all over place.

[Adam Carolla]

The.

[Mike Vecchione]

They did something. There were stores popping up all over the place. And then I. I don't think they had the right license. And then the government cracked down on them and then all of them were closed except for very few. So something happened there where they didn't have. They gave them a grace period to get the right license, I'm guessing, and they didn't do it. And so then they shut them all down. So now you have all these weed stores that are just like, kind of not open.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, America is like going through. All right, so now it's back, back kind of legal around everywhere. So everyone's learning how to smoke weed. Like everyone's.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Suddenly there's a big gold rush for. Same thing happened in Colorado, happened in California. It's this strange thing that happens where nobody has done this. Now it's free and everyone's overindulging.

[Mike Vecchione]

But I don't think the kids coming up now are doing it. The kids who are 18, 19, I have faith in them. I don't think that they're. They weren't raised with all. They're not millennials. They're not. I don't know. They're not even Gen Z. What are they? Gen Alpha, I think that's what they're called. But they're not drinking. I don't think they're smoking pot. They're not doing any of that stuff. So maybe. And they're used to social media. They're used to having a phone in their hand with everything. So maybe it'll go back.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I agree. There's probably a lost generation of dudes that are probably between like 28 and 41 that just became a little. They came little guinea pigs about whatever.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

What if you smoked pot all day and watched 12 hours of porn every night? What would that do to your mind? It's like, well, I think we found out about this self entitled, lazy, fat pieces of shit. All right. The other thing I was thinking about, I was a little esoteric, but I was like listening to the 70s station I was driving today, as I do, and I was listening to Casey and the Sunshine Band. And I was listening and he was like, do a little dance, make a little love, get down. And I, you know, and I was like, oh, yeah, like in the 70s and beyond, it was lots of like, sinewy guys trying to get laid, you know, it's like boogie. We're gonna go boogie. Then I'm getting some pussy, you know, it's like we're gonna dance for a while, then we're gonna make love, you know, Then we're getting down, baby. It was like a lot of them getting down. The guy, thin, dudes wearing jeans and driving El Caminos just wanted to get pussy. That's all they thought about was pussy. And if they had to dance to get pussy, they dance to get pussy. But the bottom line was we gotta get it on, right? And now it's like zoftic kind of fat guys going, we got a new video game to play. And we're smoking more pot. We're eating this, talking about food and hanging and. And grubhubs, bringing in n out burger to the house and stuff. And I'm like, what happened to all the get down? Like, it was a lot of booging and get down and get with you girl. And every song was just fucking and dancing and getting down and it ain't that way anymore. And the music basically always just kind of reflects whatever it is we're thinking and where we're at, you know, like whatever it is, we're doing something no one writes, you know, in. In the 80s. It's like cocaine and smugglers and everything's Miami Vice and all that shit, right? And a lot.

[Mike Vecchione]

And the hair bands, a lot of.

[Adam Carolla]

Hair bands and heat in the street and all that kind of stuff. But 70s was all just fucking and booging and getting down. It was all like boogie nights, you know.

[Mike Vecchione]

But there's something to be said for, like, it depends how you're raised too. Oh, yeah, but like, asking a girl out, like being. Putting yourself at risk to be like, hey, will you go out with me? And if she says no, like being prepar. Take the loss. And I don't know if that's being taught anymore either. And it's a tough thing because people are shy and they don't want to do it, whatever. But there's something intrinsically good about going and asking a girl out if you want to. If you attracted to her and taking her out and she says no. And then still being able to weather that and charismatically being. All right, well, you know, keep me in mind. You know what I mean? And then going on to the next girl and asking the next girl, it's like. I like that. I like that kind of initiative.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I don't know. I was thinking back to being at a. I was at the Sagebrush Cantino. I was, like, 20, and there's, like, two chicks sitting at the table, and we should come up with our greatest dump lines. But I walked over to two girls. I go, hello, ladies. Mind if I sit down? And the one looked up to me, and she goes, why? And I remember going, I don't think there's really any coming back from why, so I'll just mosey on over here. And.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Adam, like, you are not ready to improv with that one. Were you shut down?

[Adam Carolla]

Why?

[Mike Vecchione]

So we can be together. So we can be together. It's always after the fact. I want to be with you. How are we going to be together if I can't sit next to you?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, I love you. I'll go wait in your car if you just tell me what make and model it is, my lady, if that's what we're talking about. I'll recline the scene.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Is that a blooming onion?

[Adam Carolla]

I. Oh, God, it was so brutal.

[Mike Vecchione]

How are you going to be my wife if I can't even sit next to you? This is the first step.

[Adam Carolla]

How am I going to sire your children if I can't find a place at your table? Yes. But it was good, because back to being humbled, you know, was, taking a loss is good. Taking a loss is good.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. Got to come back.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Every athlete I ever talked to that I had a kind of a breakthrough. I would ask them about days of yore, and they'd always tell me the fuck up story or the lost story. And I was like, oh, yeah. Those are kind of my only stories about getting a. Getting losing. Oh, no. Zwanfeld. I remember that. I blew out everyone else, but not him. I don't remember that. I just remember losing. You know what I mean?

[Mike Vecchione]

Yeah. Losing makes an impression.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And we're trying to shield our young boys from losing, but we shouldn't be shielding.

[Mike Vecchione]

I don't have kids, but I do understand the instinct. I understand the instinct, but then there's a knowledge that comes after that where it's like, it's wrong to do it. You gotta let em. You gotta let them fall a little bit so that they can figure it out.

[Adam Carolla]

I think there's an IMBALANCE I think what happened was, is women are always gonna want to protect their kids from the. That, from the losing. And then the guys, the male traditionally would go, get up, rub some dirt on it, get back in there, you know, and the mom would be like, oh, here's a band Aid and a kiss and a boo boo, right? And then there was some sort of balance, right? And then. And then the guy would say to the wife, like, hey, listen to me. I'm his dad. I know what's best for him. He's a man. He's got a whatever. Now the man turned into a chicken. So now essentially there's two women deciding whether the kid gets back in the game or not. And the answer is not, because they're not playing the game, because there's not that balance. We decided that the feminine route was the best route, but the best route is the balance route, not the feminine route.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, they're erring on the side of civility every time. That's their mentality, safety, protection. But it's not. If a guy never lose and never take a chance, then what the hell are you gonna get? You're gonna get a guy that's automaton. Maybe that's what they want.

[Adam Carolla]

They don't know. What they don't really understand is unintended consequence, Right? Like, you go, what if we defund the police and have community ambassadors instead? And it's like, okay, but that'll lead to something that you don't want, you know? And so everything has a kind of a sounds good. But there's a downside to it. And the men are a little more into the downside. And also men are a little more like, all right, if we invade, you know, if we do this beach landing at Normandy, how many guys should we expect to lose? I don't know, maybe 30,000, 30 to 50,000 or 18 to 21,000 healthy 19 year olds are gonna die. And they go, all right, you know what I mean? That's what guys do. And then women go, if one 19 year old dies, it's not worth invading Norman. It's like, well, we're gonna lose to the Nazis. If you're going on one, if you're basing on one person dying, then we're gonna lose every single war. So there's a certain amount of acceptable loss.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And then you have to preface it with, I also share your dream of nobody die. Right? But we still got Nazis and they're still Hitler.

[Mike Vecchione]

Right?

[Adam Carolla]

And we still got to take back. Somebody's gotta do something. They gotta do something. But I agree in your proclamation.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yeah, mental toughness. I love it.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I agree. I love.

[Mike Vecchione]

Should be fostered in the, in, in families. But it's really the family. I mean, larger society does inform. But you really. It really starts at home.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. And it's not going to because what ends up happening is you get shouted down. Take it from me, the guy who was always like, hey, open the schools. You're fucking these kids up. You can't shut the schools down cuz of COVID for two years ago. You want the kids to die. It's always like something about you hating kids. Are you hating teachers? Or you hate about. I don't think the general hates his. His army. He just has to take Normandy. That's how it goes, right?

[Mike Vecchione]

It's a difference of opinion. And be able to have a dialogue with a difference of opinion, knowing that we're all coming from a good faith place. That's really what the key is. It's like if you think I'm coming from a good faith place, but I'm making a different argument, then you shouldn't so be vehemently, so vehemently against me.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Because if your view is diametrically opposed, then of course there's going to be a clash.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, my argument is if you have a good argument, you'd use it it. But you're not. You're just saying I'm. I hate kids or whatever it is. Which is kind of a weak argument because obviously I don't know anyone who hates kids, especially their own kids. Yeah, if they're arguing to put their own kids back in school. If I'm some gay dude living with my life partner in a place on Wilshire, then no, maybe I hate kids, but I have kids. I think I want my kids to die.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Are you moved into Wilshire, though?

[Adam Carolla]

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[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Went to high school in the Valley in the mid to late 90s and we had a mean teacher. He was. He was incredibly mean, but we all loved him.

[Adam Carolla]

Passed away a few years ago and it was actually really sad. But he used to pick up a.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Desk with the student in it if the student was acting up, carry it out to the hallway and throw the.

[Adam Carolla]

Desk with the student still in the.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Desk into the hallway. Yep. Couldn't get away with that nowadays. Get it on.

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[Adam Carolla]

I don't mind that stuff that kid learns. I don't know. By the way, not everything's assault or an attack, you know what I mean?

[Mike Vecchione]

But it sounds kind of nuts the way he described it. I know but pick up the desk and throw the kid out.

[Adam Carolla]

Pick the kid up and let's not break his head. He said it. He didn't throw. That's his. He's putting his own hyperbole on it. You get fired for that shit in the 90s. He picked him up, he walked him out and he plopped him out in the hall and shut the door.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Pretty sure that I've been victim to this crime 100%. Now that I think about it. I remember that guy.

[Adam Carolla]

Our teachers in junior high would put their hands on people all the time. Yeah, I mean, you had to do something, you had to get it.

[Mike Vecchione]

Well, I was a teacher and I worked at behavioral schools and we used to have to clear classrooms and the, the kid would be disrupting the class and the teacher would be like, he's got to go. And be like, you got to go. And they would. Then it would be a standoff, little.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Timmy into a front headlock and drag him out.

[Mike Vecchione]

You'd have to go. Cow catchers, you have to restrain them first of all. You talk to them and be like, look, don't do this, you gotta go. And then they would be like, f you. I don't care about you. I'll take you out. I have a cousin will come up here and kill you. And it's like I just depersonalized it. I'm like, this is. I hear you, I hear what you're saying. This is my job. Like I'm being paid to do this. So it's like you gotta leave or I gotta take you to the ground. I don't wanna do that. But it's up to you, you know, you make the decision. And they would all kinds of things back. It's like, all right, last chance. And then you would put. With the restraint team. You put em on the ground.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The restraint team?

[Mike Vecchione]

Yeah. And then they would be like, they would be like. Then they would be like, my arm. It's like, I'm gonna let up on your arm. But you gotta, you know, you gotta work with me and de escalate, you gotta stop struggling, you know what I mean?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

New classroom floor.

[Mike Vecchione]

You're talking new classroom floor and then bring up, walk on the timeout room, de escalate them and get them out of the room. But it was, yeah, it was.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Where do you get signed up to be an in school suspension cop?

[Adam Carolla]

What the hell?

[Mike Vecchione]

It was a behavioral school. So they lived on campus.

[Adam Carolla]

I got it.

[Mike Vecchione]

Oh, but it was a lot of that. It was a lot of posturing. But the more structure you had, the more rules and the more. And also showing the kids that you care about them, that you're invested in them. That always works better than just leaving it to, you know, to them to decide. You know, some schools were, it's like some schools were crazy where it was like we let them decide what they want to do. It's like, is that a good idea?

[Adam Carolla]

Decide what they want to do in what way?

[Mike Vecchione]

Well, it's like these schools where it's like they decide what subjects they want, what they. It's like they need kind of core, basic. They need. They need the basic subjects, and they need structure also.

[Adam Carolla]

Lots of structure.

[Mike Vecchione]

You know what I mean? So I believe in that. But I taught in behavioral. I worked in a behavioral school, and then I taught in public school.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I have a lot of experience in behavioral schools myself.

[Adam Carolla]

That's where my dad worked. I mean, he worked at a place called Five Acres in Pasadena, and he was the essentially principal for the school that was on campus.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Really?

[Adam Carolla]

Cause a lot of these kids couldn't go to public school. They had to stay there because it wouldn't work if they left.

[Mike Vecchione]

Oh, yeah. A lot of those kids are thrown out of the public system.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Mike Vecchione]

Removed or thrown out, or some are adjudicated out and they have nowhere to go. So it's like there's a real need for a system that works for those kinds of kids. And I was involved with a good program, and they dealt with adjudicated kids. This is a different program. And it was like, very specific, though. It's like kids who were in gangs, kids who did robberies, assault and battery. It's like, no. Sold drugs, but weren't really on drugs. But no fire starters and no sex crimes. So they kept it very. I think that's the key in education. You keep it narrow, a narrow scope, and then you're able to do a better job with the kids that you have. I find that to be true.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's fascinating, man.

[Adam Carolla]

I think my Tacros would work in this environment because those kids out of that classroom. Because it's got to be tough. I mean, how many guys would show up to take one of these kids down?

[Mike Vecchione]

It would be at least two to the ground. And it's about securing, you know, secure the limbs. Because if you let a limb. If somebody doesn't secure a limb at the same time, then they start flailing, right. And you're in trouble.

[Adam Carolla]

What. What's your whole take on the. The whole rampage thing?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I got so many thoughts.

[Adam Carolla]

I want to know about that.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You know, he's not young. He's a grown man. And, you know, he made a bad decision that he. All the onus is going to fall on him ultimately, you know, because he's the one. That whole situation could have been avoided so many, so many times on so many levels. Somebody could have stopped that, but they didn't. And so now he's got to pay the consequence, and he will.

[Adam Carolla]

What do you think that consequence going.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

To Be, you know, he might do some time on it. It might. It might be nothing. You know, this is a pro wrestling environment in which it's kind of murky. What exactly happened? They gave him license to do it. The bit was in writing that he punches a guy until they pull him off. He did what they said.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, that's what. It was scripted that.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The scripted that. So, okay, so he did what you said. Nobody stopped him. The referee was standing there looking at him for 20 unanswered shots. Shots, you know, and now it's a big trouble, big problem. I. I got so much to say about it, but that's enough.

[Adam Carolla]

Why is that enough?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, I don't know. I don't want any kind of thing that I misconstrue. I'm very close to this situation.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So, you know, like my own. He's in a damn. You know, you've known him. Known him since he's a kid, baby.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh. Oh.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I. You know, I'm. Look, there's no excuse that, you know, you can really make because he, you know, he did what he did, but inside of a vacuum, that alone. Okay, I can understand why the vitriol online, but if you look at the entire situation, you have a much more nuanced view of the thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Where do you come down on? I've seen a lot of UFC fights where the guy throws a spinning heel kick. The guy's out on his feet, goes down, slams his head against the back of the canvas, and the guy's laying there kind of motionless, clearly, arms at the side, and the guy does one more Superman punch to the face.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Look, we are trained to cut the guy until they pull you off.

[Adam Carolla]

I understand, but here's what I'm saying. NFL guys in the past were trained to light guys up, coming across the middle, head first, spearing. They didn't have rules. Jack Tatum, whomever you were there to take, take guys out. You know, you watch some of those old NFL things, and it's like, oh, they're getting pile driving quarterbacks, and you know, everything. And then at some point someone goes, look, people are getting injured here. And no, you can't come through leading with the crown of your helmet. If you're a DB and light a guy up, you got to hit him. You can hit him, but you got to have your head up. And they do it. And for the most part, that's what people do now, with the exception of shit happens. But for the most part, what they did isn't what they do. Still, a lot of action and still a lot of hard hits, but not what it was. And so what I'm saying is, can we start to institute things in mma, which is, hey, you hit a guy solid and you'll know you hit the guy solid because you did. And the guy rag dolls down to the ground and is laying there. You can't dive on him and throw a huge, huge punch.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's nice in theory. Shot guys down and then missed my shot at the end. I missed my shot and then I lost the fight.

[Adam Carolla]

You see what I'm saying? You have to. There's going to be. You're going to have to make a decision like people need, like the ref makes a decision. Is he calling this? Is he taking too much punishment? He's gonna get it wrong sometimes.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But what I'm saying is you'd have to kind of change the rules a little bit.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Which is the most infamous example of this is Mario Yamasaki, who was fired as a ref who let fights go on. You know, he would let these guys die like samurais, you know, he really would let you fight. And then sometimes that would work out for the guy getting battered. He would come back. I personally have done that where they look like they could stop it, but I kept moving, moving, and then they don't.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but what I'm. I'm saying is, like, when a guy goes down in a fashion.

[Mike Vecchione]

I know what you're saying, but there's that, that you're talking about, that split second. There's that split second.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not. It is.

[Mike Vecchione]

It is where he comes, he comes in with a pie and the ref does get in there and stops it. But there's that split second and the guy doing it does. I don't think he knows the damage, the extent of the damage. I don't think he knows it's over.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Look, the whole thing about seeing red, that happens to MMA fighters.

[Adam Carolla]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Go on this mode where, look, we train you to pick the heavy bag up, pick it up, slam it down, and then go until.

[Adam Carolla]

Until you listen. I know you guys like to argue. I'm. I'm not, I'm not saying it's not nuanced. I'm saying quarterbacks do a hook slide and the db, who's going to line them up, go airborne. Not. They don't lead with their head. It's a split second thing.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But fighting, they have a lot of pads in between them. There's a lot of different.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not that we have coached people, aggressive people to stop. Like we can coach you. We can go. It happens all the time in NFL. Quarterback makes a run, he's staring and he does the hook slide. And the guy has to do. The guy's closing at 30 miles an hour and he's got to get around him. Right. So he got coached to do that. It was hard to do. You couldn't have got Jack Tatum to do it. But the next generation got coached to hold up.

[Mike Vecchione]

So you think they're taking too much abuse after they're already out?

[Adam Carolla]

I'm saying it's clear. It's some. A lot of knockouts are kind of clear. The guy's gone. His hands are by his side. He's. He's ragdoll. And some of those Superman punches come in a beat and a half after the guy's splayed out. I'm saying that punch is illegal. The one where he. And it becomes like a kind of. We know it when we see it. It's not, it's. We'll see it. But also you hold off on that punch and you won the fight. It's not, it's not like we've give the guy a chance to get up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Or whatever saying is the reason.

[Adam Carolla]

And the ref needs to do a better job.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The ref always. Yeah, the refs got to do. The ref's responsibility is, man, it's paramount. It's like the hugest thing. It's very dangerous in there. And you know, it's easy to say, you know, these micro seconds that you can knock a guy down and if you miss that King Kong punch afterwards, then you lost the fight. It.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's got to be rag doll. I mean, it's got to be head slams against.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No, what I'm saying is sad guy laid him out where he woke himself up.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. You get what I'm saying? In that case.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No, no decision is hard to make.

[Adam Carolla]

If you forego the Superman man punch, you win in this, in this world.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, see. But then he's like, what? Stand up in 10 count. You're reinventing.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, he's out.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, it's.

[Adam Carolla]

It's basically, it's. It. It's back to football. Hook slide.

[Mike Vecchione]

Right?

[Adam Carolla]

You are going to have to make a split decision of not to lead with your helmet, basically when he does the hook slide. Now if he.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But what I'm telling you, much difference in fighting because these like. I'm not arguing with you for no reason. What I'm saying is much more difficult to make that decision in the moment of like, if the guy is laid out, you need to finish him because if you don't, you're not going to get paid. You're not going to get paid what you deserve. If you, if you have any amount of hesitation in you, then it's, you lose. It's a game of nanoseconds.

[Adam Carolla]

You can say the db, if he's holding up, he's going to get cut if the quarterback runs past him and doesn't do a hook slide is what I'm saying. Like every same with the quarterback going out of bounds like you have you hold up. Or you could be cut if you light him up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Okay, but in mma, in your metaphor, a thousand of those things happen around a thousand different.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm saying you're going to have to start in Doc. You're going to have to start infusing it into the sport.

[Mike Vecchione]

But is it really on the fighter? In this case? It's got to be more on the ref cover the, to cover the fighter who's been laid out.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The problem was on the whole wrestling show and this referee was just drinking beers with them before.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that ref was not a real ref. But he should have gotten involved.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mike Vecchione]

No, but that's interesting because how, but that's interesting because like it's like how involved, Like I don't know this stuff. I'm on the outside. So it's like how, how much do they stick to the script and if he's sticking to the script, then how much is it on the other guy who's supposed to pull him off to hit his cue, you know what I mean? And no. Does he know what he's doing stakes.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

On this janky wrestling show they, that, you know, apparently is a popular wrestling show, but not really well run like organization where they're doing, you know, very, it's not very professional. Yeah, I'm thinking if I'm the fight promoter or the wrestling promoter in this case, that never, never. Why on earth would this happen? It's his trap.

[Adam Carolla]

What, what was Raj, Raja, Raja, Raja. He fought mma.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He's an MMA fighter through and through. You know, he's not top level champion yet, but he's a young guy and has done fights, you know, and you put him in this environment where guys are playing kayfabe. He's not joking. He's not playing. He's not a pro wrestler.

[Adam Carolla]

What weight division is he?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He fought a bunch of 45, I think. And he shot a bunch of what at 45? And 35 earlier and now he's.

[Adam Carolla]

What's 45 and 35?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Sorry, bantamweight.

[Adam Carolla]

He fought at 145.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The guys cut weight big. He looks huge.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, I. I know what I. When you said 45, 35, I assume you meant 145. 135. And he looked like he was about 210. And yeah, he's big. Oh, well, I'm also going off a rampage is a big.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Of course, of course. But, you know, he's a little bit smaller. 45. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Really? Yeah.

[Mike Vecchione]

Those guys rehydrate up. They weigh in the night before, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get the walking around at 175 and fighting at 145, but I thought he was like 220 or something.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No, he just looks really big and jacked. But, you know, he's a kid still. He's growing into his frame and, you know, he's 25 years old and this guy pulled up, smashed a beer can on his head. And the whole thing is like being documented so thoroughly on the Internet right now that it's insane.

[Adam Carolla]

When was his last MMA fight?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't, I don't recall. A year or two ago.

[Adam Carolla]

So see what he fought at that. Yeah, you're have to look all this up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't know, it's just.

[Mike Vecchione]

So he's still a competing MMA fighter who fought. He just participated in a wrestling show?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No, he didn't participate. He was streaming and doing the whole streamer thing where you go around into the backstage there, and then some guy, Psycho Stu, pulled a stunt on him, hit him with a beer can and, you know, it's a clash of cultures. Okay. In mixed martial arts, I don't take any shots that aren't going to get fed back to you. Yeah, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

So he wasn't supposed to be involved?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No.

[Mike Vecchione]

In pro wrestling, I didn't know that.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You get hit with the can and you're like, supposed to go, oh my God. In mma, you hit me, I ignore it and hit you. And he never got a chance to hit the guy back until the promoter egged him on to do a stunt with him.

[Adam Carolla]

So they did that, like almost impromptu.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Exactly. So they improv this thing, trying to suck Rampage Son into the pro wrestling thing and nuclear explosion.

[Adam Carolla]

So he was just hanging there backstage doing. Doing some Internet streaming, like the Internet streamers.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

They walk around and the chat tells them what's up. You know, kick's a big deal. He lost last fight in decision, you know, for years now, yeah, that was. Yeah, they don't have the, his, his weight on this sure dog. But yeah, you know, he's a good fighter and his form looked pretty good. I coached him exactly that. Like, I'm so mad, I'm like, well.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so he wasn't even supposed to get in the ring.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He wasn't supposed to. There were so many trip ups in that entire thing, you know, so many mistakes made by the camera crew, the actual. And look, ultimately it's going to fall on Rajah's shoulders and he's a man, he can deal with whatever comes his way.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. All right, whatever your next. Now just to put a button, what I'm saying is like the DBs, it's going to take a generation to train guys to go, you don't lead with the crown because at the beginning I was like, are you fucking nuts? We're not doing that or we're going to get hit or whatever. But if you train.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

What rule are you trying to institute here, ace?

[Adam Carolla]

I'm trying to institute the guy lifeless on the ground with the Superman punch when the guy's unconscious.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But that micro second, I'm telling you, I have sat down lifeless and gone. I'm back and won.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, but what I'm saying here, quarterbacks are not allowed to break out, fake a slide and then keep running. They go, you're stopped.

[Mike Vecchione]

That's why it's up to the ref. Like in boxing, when the ref decides like you're knocked out on your feet or you can't go, you're just taking too much punishment, the ref will jump in and stop it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, but in mma a guy can get dropped and then roll back to his guard and start fiddling around, get a leg lock. Suddenly happened to one of my fighters recently. If they would have jumped in and stopped him then, you know what I mean, he wouldn't have got that next fight. The led was title fight.

[Adam Carolla]

We're talking about out on your feet, back of the head, slams on the canvas. One I'm not talking about.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And it's always up to the referee to determine that.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I know, but they're not always in position to prevent that last crazy scene.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I thought of a way to do it where they have kind of a shield to block this. You know, I agree with you completely and I like dreamed up the solution for this already. To have this kind of a shield between a padded thing to make sure this doesn't get through. I think it's terrible too.

[Adam Carolla]

But you know, there are plenty. Oh not plenty. But there's a few guys who, when they tag the guy, turn around and walk away.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, you're right.

[Adam Carolla]

And they know when they've connected like they. Which is always a great look, it's kind of a walk off home run kind of.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But more often than not this.

[Mike Vecchione]

They have to stand over them and they watch them fall. And then they.

[Adam Carolla]

They.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yeah, Then the instinct is to go for that kill.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But if you don't, you're not sure that you got this clean one paying attention.

[Mike Vecchione]

So Adam wants to bring him flowers. On the last. He said just bring him some flowers.

[Adam Carolla]

If there's any gray area you're allowed to drop it in. This is only rag dollar hands at the side flopped out. This isn't struggling for anything. Even grabbing the ref's foot or something. That's still. I'm talking. You gotta be unconscious. See, this wrestler got his head slammed and was unconscious the whole time. And it was clear he was unconscious. That's what I'm talking about. Not any version of flailing or anything. But anyway. All right, next story. Or any story.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Any story. Well, the biggest story of the year. Taylor Swift, Fitch, Travis, Kelsey aren't engaged.

[Mike Vecchione]

Do they have a date?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't know. I didn't.

[Mike Vecchione]

I think it should be. I think it should be during the Super Bowl. Get him married during the Super Bowl.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I think Kendrick Lamar should read the vows.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, she's got a register. Like a Bed, Bath and Beyond. And like, I want a crock pot and an air fryer.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I got so much coupons. I'm getting them everything.

[Adam Carolla]

People should be forced to buy them. Like, stuff that's like $41, right? Like, I would. And I would lean into it if I were her. Like, I would go, look, in lieu of getting us an air fryer or crock pot. We really wanted to go to Maui. And if everyone just kind of kicks in 100 bucks, we could do this. The Sheridan. We can do three nights at the Sheridan in Maui. It's not on the water, but it's close enough. And just fucking do one of these things where you in earnest. I don't want the crock pot and I don't want to give the money to cancer research. We do want. We've earned a honeymoon. Both of us work our asses off. They work hard, we work hard.

[Mike Vecchione]

Doesn't matter. She's a billionaire.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm getting married. You want to get us a gift? We're getting married. We want you to contribute to our fund for our honeymoon. Crowdfund and they also have cute things. Like, people could buy us a bathrobe to use on that or a towel or like a certificate for couples massage at the hotel. They also have a. They have a buffet that is $29 a day per person. People could buy. We'll put that on the website too.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Okay, I'm gonna let you finish, but Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. It's wonderful.

[Mike Vecchione]

No, I think people should get. I like the idea of them getting them just regular gifts. Like, I got you a crock pot.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Mike Vecchione]

You know what I mean? I got you an air fryer.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I got you a towel with a tea on it. Two of them.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, yes. Yeah. Two teas. Right. With the towels. I agree. Maybe a gift certificate like for Target. Red Lobster or Red Lobster or. Or the Starbucks gift certificate would be good.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I just thought. Named an elephant after her, actually, in her name. And I got a star for Travis. Kelsey. I bought it online.

[Adam Carolla]

You bought a star?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I named a star for Travis.

[Lou Diamond Phillips]

Oh, that's.

[Mike Vecchione]

You can do that now?

[Adam Carolla]

You can do that? Yeah. I have a star or planet named after me, actually.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Uranus.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, come on.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Waka, waka, waka.

[Adam Carolla]

By an actual. By an actual physicist. Like, this is an actual star.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You're hanging out with black science guy? Neil Tyson Degrasse?

[Adam Carolla]

No, something like that. But no, no, this is an actual thing, which I was like, this isn't a name, a star bullshit thing. This is an actual asteroid or something. What they get to name them if they discovered him?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Is it hurtling towards Earth?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. What is it?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Planning the whole thing? Yeah.

[Mike Vecchione]

What's your end of it?

[Adam Carolla]

Tom Bobot. Look up Tom Bovine. I think he's an astrophysicist. He was a big fan and he named this asteroid after me, which I was like, good with. But if it does hit the Earth.

[Mike Vecchione]

You'Re gonna have to answer for a lot.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Corolla's coming, baby.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yeah, I will get Corolla.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm gonna send fucking Bruce Willis up there after you.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. Let's see. An asteroid named after Adam Carolla is 4535 Adam Carolla. Details about the asteroid discovery was discovered in August 86. Henry DeBarge or DeBuh at the European Southern Observatory. Classification is a main belt asteroid. Physical characteristics. It has an estimated diameter of about 20 kilometers. Listen. But traveling at 10,000 miles an hour, it's gonna take Texas out, man. Orbit's orbital period is 10 hours and whatever. I don't know what it is, but the point is, is if it hits this planet, I'll be like, that's great.

[Mike Vecchione]

Pr.

[Adam Carolla]

Me and Liv Tyler are going to be making out right before it hits, wherever it hits.

[Mike Vecchione]

Then you should perform live, like the next week.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Live from the apocalypse. It's Adam Carolla and Friends.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm opening for this one.

[Adam Carolla]

Live from the Crater room.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Formerly McCoobies.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yuck. Yuck. Chuckle Hut.

[Adam Carolla]

No, it's. Yeah, yeah. See, but I'm thinking it's going to take the planet out.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Not 12 kilometers.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Somebody do the math on this. 12 kilometers. Going 10.

[Mike Vecchione]

10 kilometers. And isn't that five, like, six miles? Right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, but 20 around. That's a big, big rock, bud. You're gonna end the world extinction level event.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, for me, I'll do. It's not gonna take the entire globe out. But the nuclear winter, I. Cause after I hit the planet is what's gonna end life as we know it.

[Mike Vecchione]

It's a solid closer look for that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

There's one meerkat left to repopulate humanity, maybe.

[Adam Carolla]

I think the sitcom is, I survive in Mark Zuckerberg's bunker in Hawaii. And it's always a bad vibe because I'm the name of the meteor that took out the world and just means Zuckerberg are alive in Maui in his bunker, you know?

[Mike Vecchione]

And then you guys do a Bosom buddies type thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, we do. We do a thing.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I was thinking, his Chinese wife's coming on to you all the time.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a sick.

[Mike Vecchione]

She's gone. It's just the two of us.

[Adam Carolla]

Them. She's gone. She was in town.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You guys can repopulate.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, it's a sitcom. Like a montage of me lighting a cigar and him going, come on.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You always think you have to have the episode where you have a piece of tape down the middle.

[Adam Carolla]

The middle of the bunker. Yeah, well, I don't want. All right, you want everything, then we'll put a piece of tape. We'll put a piece of tape. The kitchen's on your side, the toilet's on my side. Just lump it, Mark. Yeah, we do that whole thing.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And, you know, he wants to. His whole thing is he's. He's getting into MMA now. He wants to do jiu Jitsu. But I'm like, I'm not rolling with you. That ain't my thing. And he's begging because he needs a partner.

[Mike Vecchione]

Right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And you're sitting there, over there with your hand pads, like, looking at him like, wish I had somebody would hit these.

[Adam Carolla]

No, he wants to do Jiu Jitsu. Yeah, it's just the two of us. Kind of odd couple each thing, you know, living off canned food down there. Wife's gone, blames me, you know, I'm the name of the asteroid. You know, it's weird.

[Mike Vecchione]

And then if something doesn't work out in the world, now you. You just got Corolla'd.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, right, right.

[Mike Vecchione]

It's a catchphrase. You need a catchphrase.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, I'm handy, so I can fix stuff, you know? And, like, the toilet's leaking and he can't fix it. Cause all he can do is. Is coding. You know what I mean? He needs a blue.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He's looking at the screen. He's like, d levels are off the chart. Would you do the air filters? Then? You're over there. Air filters. I got it. I got it. I could. I could see this whole day. Oh, what about his robot girlfriend? Is that she gonna show up in this?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, that's part of the sitcom. You know what I mean?

[Mike Vecchione]

He builds a robot girlfriend.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No, he already has it.

[Mike Vecchione]

Oh, does he?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he's got his robot girlfriend in there. And he finds that I've been clearly mussing around with it because her left titty smells like cigar. And he notices that, you know what I mean? And he knows I've been on it.

[Mike Vecchione]

You know, that's a good episode. You cheated. He. You're like, the robot girlfriend cheated with you. The roommate.

[Adam Carolla]

He's like, I found chili on her right tit. Her left tit smelled like cigar. Don't tell me. And I'm like, hey, I'm smoking a cigar and eating chill. I'm like, whoa, whoa, where are you coming from?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Another time, he comes home, you have rubber gloves on and the toilet brush, and she's bent over, right? Ah, excuse me.

[Adam Carolla]

Sorry. It kind of writes itself.

[Mike Vecchione]

It does. I think they found a cigar in her belly button. And he's like, what's this? And then it all.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Ashes. I've been. I've been ash.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think at first he would be depressed because of all the Facebook friends he lost.

[Adam Carolla]

When the media.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Nobody's liking this post.

[Adam Carolla]

And then there's a kind of thing where we decide to wander out, but wasn't sure who should go through the blast door first, you know what I mean? So maybe it's a rock, paper, scissor type situation, you know? And it's a weird thing where I'm like, I'm gonna hang back with Emily. And he's like, emily? Yeah, that's sex robot. And he's like, first off, it's just a robot. And then secondly, her name is Deirdre. And I'm like, well, she responds to Emily now, bro. And he's like, what? And then we both yell at her and Deirdre. Deirdre doesn't look up. Emily, come here. Get me another cigar. And it was okay. And he's all pissed off. Yeah, something like that.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I can't wait for the episode where the Hawaiian population all bedraggles knocking at your door. You know what I mean? Here's a special irradiate.

[Adam Carolla]

Ah, here's a special, special episode. At some point we find out that Richard Branson and that. Let's see, who else. Oh, Richard Branson, Bezos and Elon all knew my meteor was coming to the planet and went off the planet. But they're back down now, right? Right. And they went in the bunker. They've returned from orbit. Now everything's gone. But they're back and they're in their spacesuits and they know we're in the bunker and they went in the bunker. That's an. That. That maybe that's a season finale. That's a two parter right there.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Season two, like, starts with Oprah and her army. She's the overlord of a robot army of some sort, trying to take.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And then Richard Branson we let in. He starts working his action with the sex robot. You know, we catch him, like drinking martini and like, talking for a while, like, you remind me my first wife. And then she's like, thank you. And I'm like, all right, rich kid. I knew this was a bad idea. I knew it. It's good, right?

[Mike Vecchione]

That's a great one. If a network doesn't pick that up, that's their fault.

[Adam Carolla]

That's on them.

[Mike Vecchione]

It's on them. Or at least a streaming service.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's in development. Hell, right now.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's wind up in development all right. I'm tired from all these scenarios.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Hey, I got a big. I got one more story for you. Well, I'm getting a huge refund because the famed Orgy Dome, one of Burning Man's longest running and most notorious attraction, was destroyed by high winds. And during a fierce storm. And Black Rock City organizers confirmed the Orgy dome was. What do you think about that sign? What do you think about the craftsmanship?

[Mike Vecchione]

I think it was destroyed by. Christ.

[Adam Carolla]

I was gonna say the Lord.

[Mike Vecchione]

You know what I mean? The Lord saw that. And not on my watch.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The power of Christ compels you.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, the orgy dome.

[Mike Vecchione]

I didn't know Burning man was still happening. Oh, yeah, it's happening like every year.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a. It's a thing. Yeah, I saw the traffic going. The traffic going there. It's like, oh, God.

[Mike Vecchione]

The cops pull you over and they're like, do you have drugs on you? And you're like, no. And they're like, why not? You need to be doped up to go here.

[Adam Carolla]

It's like that scene in Independence Day when all the RVs are going through the desert. That's what it looks like. It's like a non cavalcade of cars just driving through the desert. I don't listen.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

What were you doing out there, ace? You came back from Area 51 or something?

[Adam Carolla]

I've seen footage. And there's. Who's the comedian who goes every year? Oh, I'll think of Andrew Dice Clay. No, no, I can't. I'm spacing out on his name. No, not Moshe Kashir, though he probably goes as well.

[Mike Vecchione]

Doug Benson.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Good old Benson.

[Adam Carolla]

Doug was probably there and they built it around him. I felt like he was already.

[Mike Vecchione]

I'm trying to think of Pac Guy.

[Adam Carolla]

It's already there. No, no, this isn't Ari Shafir. No, no. So here's the thing. Not a pot guy.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Psychedelic dude.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, now I got to think of.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He's just macro dosing over there.

[Mike Vecchione]

A straight edge.

[Adam Carolla]

I. Not a straight edge. He's a weirdo.

[Mike Vecchione]

An edge. Lord, all these different names and stuff now.

[Adam Carolla]

Not Duncan Trussell. I'll. Oh, I'll think of it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Sam Triple.

[Adam Carolla]

No, it's not a usual suspect. Carrot Top guy? No, Gallagher.

[Mike Vecchione]

We took a shot.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, sorry. Harlan.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The Harlan highway is up there.

[Adam Carolla]

Harlan. I think he goes. I think he goes every year and he just does it like he enjoys it. I don't think it's part he's in the whole scene. He just does it. I think Harlan Marlin said. He said he does. But anyway, the orgy dome has.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, tell them it's off. It's over with. They're going to try to rebuild it, I don't know, out of dildos or something. It's going to happen.

[Mike Vecchione]

It got hit by the meteor.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, the atom.

[Mike Vecchione]

The atom. Corolla meteor.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So they're going to try to rebuild. I don't.

[Mike Vecchione]

Rebuild and rebrand. That's what everybody does now. Rebrand it.

[Adam Carolla]

Let me tell you something I've learned sexually, lots of, lots of lube and lots of sand don't go well together. That's a bad combination of silicon becomes 60 grit sandpaper. At a certain point, the wind kicks up, you're covered with lube, and all of a sudden you become a drill bit. I. That's a bad combo. You don't want sand and lube.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Lube high viscosity. I know. I'm telling you.

[Adam Carolla]

You become a sanding disc, like a belt sander at a certain, certain. You become an oscillating spindle sander at a certain point. If we get enough sand and enough lube on your cock.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

My cock is a leave.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it'll. It'll. It'll grind a woman down. That's not a good situation. You want lots of green grass and a placid lake and then lube and dome.

[Mike Vecchione]

Yes. And hopefully a blanket and blanket.

[Adam Carolla]

But you don't want sand and lube.

[Mike Vecchione]

Sand and lube. That sounds like a good stand up special.

[Adam Carolla]

Sand and lube sounds like a good place. Sounds like a decent sandwich place.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Middle Eastern pornographic film.

[Adam Carolla]

It sounds like something. All right, let's see. Mike, where do we go? The special Low income. Low income White is out.

[Mike Vecchione]

It's on YouTube. My friend Nate Bargazzi gave me a place to put it on his platform. Nateland, the YouTube page. It's called Low Income White. Please watch it. Please follow me on all social media platforms. OmicMikev. I'll be in Baltimore September 25th at the Port Comedy Club. And October 5th, I'll be at the Columbus Funny Bone. First show is sold out. Second show is open, so please buy.

[Adam Carolla]

Tickets and you can go to the.

[Mike Vecchione]

Website to find out mikevecchione.com for dates. But please follow me omicmikev on all social media platforms.

[Adam Carolla]

So me going to be in Provo doing dry bar this Friday. Couple shows over there and Torrance at Mom said now. First show sold out, but they say the second show is still around. And then Charlotte coming up and also El Paso Mayhem. What do you got?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I got Big J Okerson on The Mayhem Show. YouTube Great.

[Adam Carolla]

And Lou Diamond E2 available to stream. And until next time, is Adam for Lou and Mike and Mayhem saying, mahala.

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Jason Mayhem Miller]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Mike Vecchione]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Mike Vecchione]

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[Jason Mayhem Miller]

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[Adam Carolla]

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