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Adam Carolla
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Andrew Gruel
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Adam Carolla
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Mayhem Miller
Even more live shows with Adam Carolla at the end of this month in Bellflower, California. Two shows at the Stand Stand Up Comedy Club on May 24th. Then on May 30th, he travels up to Washington for four shows at the Tacoma Comedy Club in Tacoma May 30th and 31st. Then off to Spokane, Washington at the Spokane Comedy Club on June 1st. Tickets for these and more at AdamCorola.com from Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California. This is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, Chef Andrew Brule. Plus the news and trending topics with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now Corn tortilla conquistador Adam Carolla.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. Their choice to get on a mandate. You get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling the frame. We love that about you. Andrew Gruel, Chef Gruel in studio. Got a new cookbook out. Andrew Gruel's Family Cookbook. I follow Andrew. I see all his posts and it's all delectable. I like his politics. I like his cooking. So good to talk to you, my friend.
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Andrew Gruel
Great to be here. Thank you.
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Adam Carolla
It's a weird time we're living in where when I grew up, this food was just sort of food. You didn't really think about it. There wasn't foodies. The whole idea was you just ate. You know, we didn't have rules about food. You know, nobody said, oh, I had Chinese food two days in a row, I'm not going to have it a third. It's like, fuck, you eat Chinese food. That's what we got. And that was it. You know, it was this sort of. We were like army jeeps and we're just throwing stuff in the tank that would burn in a cylinder. And that was about all we needed. And now we're in some weird space which is sort of like, if I draw an analogy, it's like California. We have ultra rich and then insane poverty sort of coalescing, you know. Coalescing? Like driving past, you know, Jay Z and Beyonce are passing homeless encampments on their way to the recording studio. You know, people just flopped in the street and food's kind of that way. We have like crazy, you know, high end, the best, only cooking with the purest ingredients and so on and so forth. And then we just. Fast Food USA, you know, McDonald's and Jack in the Box are open 24 7. So it's weird, right?
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah, yeah. That's actually a great, great description we do have. There's no middle class when it comes to food.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. And I kind of miss the middle class part of life.
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah, yeah. The best food is the working man's food, actually. So you go to other countries. Everybody, you know, waxes poetic about Mexico. I go there and I get these tacos and they're great. Well, it's because there' a working class construct of food down there. You're right. Doesn't exist nowadays. I come here, I just tell you, you're right. That should really be my role in the studio.
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Adam Carolla
Well, I mean, people. I get this with people. You probably get this with people. They go like you and Dr. Drew or whoever, you guys always just agree with each other. And I go, no, he's pragmatic. And so I agree with all pragmatic people who are accurate. It's not the person, it's the idea. If you tell me an idea that's a bad idea, I'm not gonna agree with it just cause it's coming out of your mouth.
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah, well, it's the underlying formula. Right. So you agree with kind of the fundamental formula and Then from there it's just frill and garnish.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's an interesting time to be alive food wise. Because I was just watching a clip of RFK Jr. Up in front of Congress, you know, telling it like it is. And it's also interesting that there's pushback to a guy who's basically saying diet and exercise, that's gonna solve a lot of these problems. And everyone's pushing back on him. But I don't know if you saw his latest run, but I'll play the clip for the audience. It's two minutes long. See, RFK is interesting. Junior's interesting in that he's a little. I know him. I wouldn't say I'm good friends with him, but I would say I'm friendly with him and I kind of know who he is. He has a little mouth of babes. Like he just shows up and goes, doesn't everyone want their kids to have good food? I don't get what the. Why are we arguing? Why are you attacking me? I'm not doing anything. I just went everyone to be healthy. I don't want this chronic disease to go away. And he's effective cuz he's naive about it. Like he's almost like going, I don't know what you're saying, I don't know why you're saying it, but I'm just telling you what the truth is. Cuz everyone has to kind of push everything through some sort of filter now because they don't wanna be called this or labeled that.
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Andrew Gruel
Well, the basis of my Entire platform for 10 or 15 years is looking at politics through food. Food is the vehicle through which everything suddenly makes sense. You know, they get up on, they talk about microchips and semiconductors and Taiwan and military theory and it's obfuscation. Everyone's all confused. So then they believe the elites because they assume that they're experts. That's what everybody does is they just say, well, they're the smart guys, they know. I'll go Back to my 9 to 5 food, everyone knows. So when RFK comes up there and states something that's incredibly common, sensical, everyone goes, yeah, that makes sense. And then they try and run the same play on food and it's like, oh shoot. So I think reverse engineer this. Look at the way they're trying to lie to us about food and tell RFK he's crazy, even though it's common sense. And apply that backwards to all these other issues and you realize how inept government really is right.
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Adam Carolla
Food we can all do the math on.
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Andrew Gruel
Exactly.
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Adam Carolla
Tariffs, maybe not so much. Yeah. All right, we'll play this clip just cuz it's fresh off the press in my district, which is a rural district. Want to work with you on those goals. What can we do to promote this with young children, healthy lunches, all sorts of areas where local communities can partner with you in this effort.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
We are about to reissue the dietary guidelines and we're going to do it very quickly. We have until January, but we're going to do it. I think we'll have it done even before August. And we took the Biden guidelines, which were 453 pages long and were clearly written by industry that are incomprehensible, driven by the same industry capture and those kind of carnal impulses that put Fruit Loops at the top of the food pyramid. And we are changing that. So we're going to have four page dietary guidelines that tell people essentially eat whole food. Eat the food that's good for you. That's going to drive changes in the school lunch programs and we're going to need your help to make sure we can get good school lunches to Head Start. I've been touring these Head Start facilities. Everything they eat is in a package and it is just loaded with sugar and with chemicals. We're poisoning this generation. 800,000 kids, the poorest kids in our country and we're starting them out with this count against them with diabetes, prediabetes. 38% of our youth now are diabetic or pre. Diabetic. That was zero when I was a kid. Anybody thinks that we did gold standard medicine in this country from these institutions. Look at our children. They're the sickest children in the world. Laurie, you say that you've got. Excuse me, Congressman DeLauro, you say that you've worked for 20 years on getting food die out. Give me credit. I got it out in 100 days.
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Andrew Gruel
I'll give you that credit.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
All right. So let's work together and do something that we all believe in, which is have healthy kids in our country. For God's sake. Ms. Dane, together it's not. There's no such thing as Republican children or Democratic children. There's just kids and we should all be cared. Be concerned with them.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. The problem with the Democrats is they're like well don't let them do this cuz we don't wanna give them the win.
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Andrew Gruel
Yes.
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Adam Carolla
And it's like yeah, but the win is a healthy diet for your children. And our children and the nation's children, that's the win. So certain things like argue over the border or argue over diet, it's like, don't give him the win. Well, give him the win if the nation wins. How about that?
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Andrew Gruel
Well, and he also undercut himself when he said we don't have Democrat children or Republican children. You know, for a fact, in that room, people are thinking, actually no, my kids are democr.
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Adam Carolla
Oh yeah, right.
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Andrew Gruel
Like that's what they were thinking. So this is the quintessential Catch 22, or kind of, if you're married. It's like, you know, I saw some video the other day. Guy goes to the grocery store and he says to his wife, oh my gosh, I saw a woman at the grocery store look just like you. And she's like, well, did you think she was pretty? That's it. You're losing that one. No matter how you answer, you're losing that. Well, he's been able to effectively do that to Congress. Cuz who's gonna say, no, we don't want any of that, right? So instead they're gonna try and find some convoluted way of undermining his purpose and his thesis, whether it's his personal life or whether it's some relationship he has with somebody within the government. Right? They're gonna constantly try and move the ball so nobody has to actually address what he said. 450, 500 pages of FDA guidelines. What the heck do you need that for? You need an instruction manual to go out to eat.
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Adam Carolla
You don't. First off, all this stuff is as old as the Roman days, you know what I mean? I say to everyone, I just go, diet and exercise. And I'm not talking about nutrition and exercise, I'm just talking about family education. Get to work, stop blaming other people, don't look to the government, just diet and exercise, whatever that is, in every circle, do it. If you show up to a new job, diet and exercise. Well, what do you mean? I'm not exercising at work. No, no, show up early, have a attitude. Don't say, I don't do that. If someone needs someone to pop in on the weekend and help the boss out, show up. It's all basic shit. It's all shit. Your grandfather knew. It's as old as time. It's real basic stuff. And I do get frustrated when they go, these kids, they don't know they need to be educated. Everybody knows the difference between Doritos and Broccoli. Every nine year old does. They don't want to eat the broccoli. They want the Doritos. But it's not really an education thing. They understand it. It needs to be enforced. It's not the education. Just like they know walking up to some woman walking down the street and punching her in the back of the head and taking her purse. They don't need to be educated. They needed to be stopped from doing it. But they understand when they're 10, that's wrong. They understand broccoli's right. They understand exercise is good. Better than video games. They understand it. They just don't do. And it's not enforced. And it needs to be enforced by society.
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah. These are universal truths. And I've got four kids, so I deal in concepts just like this. And I remember, too, all my kids, when they went from like two to three and they would start to misbehave, they're always checking over their shoulder, like, did dad see that? Because they know it's wrong.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, they know it's wrong. That's why they stop or look for you.
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Andrew Gruel
Exactly. And then when you don't make notice of the fact it's wrong, well, then they know. Okay, that door's open a little bit. Right. And we are children in this world in many cases. And I'm not saying that, you know, to down. To put down all the American citizens, just about half of them. And we're looking for positive reinforcement. We're looking for the carrot, the stick, whatever you want to use. And what we've done, especially coming out of COVID Right? And I know we always go back to Covid, but this is exactly what Covid did, was they used this as a predicate. They used Covid as a predicate to scale back all of these absolute truths. And then they can redefine them as something complicated that only they understand and they know. And in order for you to understand it, you just have to listen to their dictates. It's pretty simple if you're a dictator. Pretty simple to understand.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. It's a sort of lack of common sense. And I always equate it, or not equate it, but sort of blame the fact that people moved from a farm into a cubicle. And once you sit in a cubicle and stare at a computer all day, you sort of lose your gravity and your true north and all that kind of stuff. That manual stuff keeps you tuned up all the time. Cause it's real, straightforward stuff. And it could be building a barn with your Amish friends, or it could be making an omelette with you, which is, there's no feelings. There's no in my heart of hearts. There's just a temperature and a sequence.
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Andrew Gruel
It's carnal, right? Like he said, there, it's carnal. It is muscle memory. It's just the most basic instincts. And I'll tell you what, my cooks are probably smarter than half of these people up on Capitol Hill because they do understand that, but they don't over understand.
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Adam Carolla
Right?
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Andrew Gruel
That's what we get is the over understanding. You said it's common sense. It is common sense, but I would say that they're stripping away the common sense by way of an information overload on purpose. Right? So the 500 pages in the USDA health food guidelines, that's not there to help anybody. That's not intentional. Do you think anybody reads the instruction manual when they put things together when they run to the store? You know, you get. You buy something for $25 and there's a 35 page instruction manual in nine different languages. I don't look at any of that. Just build it with the kids. But they want to instruction manualize our lives so that we get so confused. And it's like, well, if I miss one piece of the construction or the instruction manual, then my whole life's going to fall apart. Therefore, I need the government, both state and federal, to control this for me.
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Adam Carolla
I made a joke last night on Twitter that you're uniquely qualified to hear because of your cooking and your background. And it was funny. I thought people would get it. But at least 2/3 to 3/4 of the people didn't get my joke. I was just looking through Twitter and somebody, there was an article and it said, who's going to replace David Hogg? And I said, either Jon Hamm or Kevin Bacon. And no one knew I was making a pig breakfast related joke. They all just went, well, how about we get Sean Penn? I'm like, no, it's gotta have hog. See, he had hog. So I did ham and bacon. And nobody understood I was making a joke. I was pretty impressed with myself. I thought that was funny. But people were like, you can do better than Jon Hamm. He doesn't have any experience in politics. And I was like, see, he said his name is Hogg. So I did bacon and ham. That's what I did.
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Andrew Gruel
I see an egg.
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Adam Carolla
The audience now, some people said, get Miss Piggy. Okay, that's good. That's funny. And some people did the. I saw what you did there. But others just went, I don't get it. Or get your douchebag friend Jimmy to be the next. Or you should do it. Or get Dr. Drew. I got a lot of we don't know what you're talking about in there. I thought it was a pretty dad jokey. That was a fastball right over the plate.
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Andrew Gruel
Any joke with a culinary reference automatically starts off at a B. So that's great. And then you threw that on there. So I have a similar David Hogg story probably around the same time I wrote I stand with David Hogg. Right. Because who better to take down the Democrat party than David?
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Adam Carolla
Oh, that was you saying that.
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Andrew Gruel
Because I did see that. I got. Oh, my gosh, you should read the comments section. We knew you were a closet liberal. Unfollow, et cetera.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, they don't. They don't get nuance or subtlety on the Internet.
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Andrew Gruel
No, not in. Not in the least bit. But in any case, I got a good about 10 threat messages, which somehow they broke through my firewall.
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Adam Carolla
A lot of literalists, I would say. And also my thing would be consider the source. Like, if it's somebody who goes on the Internet and trolls and pokes fun, or is a comedian or a personality. Chances are they're not exactly saying verbatim what they're thinking. They're probably making, like, why would I be suggesting Kevin Bacon and Jon Hamm, two guys that aren't in politics, take over for David Hogg? It's a weird. And I'm a comedian, so you should probably stop for a minute and just go, what's he doing here? And then that'll buy you a little time for your brain to catch up to bacon and ham. Yeah. But either way, I thought it was a home run. Turned out I lagged out a single. The other thing I wanted to ask. I got to get you on speed dial, if there is such a thing anymore. I decided I wanted some fish the other night, and I thought, what fish do I want? And then I thought, I've heard so many different things about so many different fish. And then there's the tilapia. And then people go, don't do the tilapia. That's not good. I've read things, and I wanted a white fish. And I thought, well, I like butter, capers, and lemon, but as long as you're here, what's the good white fish to get? And how do we do it here in California?
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Andrew Gruel
California white sea bass. One of the best fish you'll eat in the world. California white sea bass. So now gotta be Careful saying sea bass. Sea bass has become a catch all marketing term. So tilapia is traditionally sold as sea bass. You see just sea bass on the menu. You gotta ask what type of sea bass? So you got Chilean sea bass, which is the rich, deep, buttery fish that goes for, you know, $50 a pound. Was over fish for a while, then the environmental groups came in. It was very controversial. Good fish. You'll find it at most high end steakhouses. White sea bass is a California sea bass. It's actually a drum. See, it's not even a bass, it's a drum.
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Adam Carolla
What's a drum?
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Andrew Gruel
It's a drum fish. It's a certain Geno species of fish that is local to central to southern California waters. It is so incredibly delicious. Rich, flake, buttery, medium sized flake. Right. So you're not getting that kind of grainy fish flavor in there. Not fishy at all. And you can get it at most restaurants in southern California.
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Adam Carolla
What about fish markets?
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah, fish markets.
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Adam Carolla
Counters at a grocery store, fish counters.
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Andrew Gruel
California white sea bass or the halibut. Right. Either the California halibut or the Alaskan halibut.
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Adam Carolla
How do we prepare them?
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Andrew Gruel
Just go, just simply roasted. I mean, don't into over intellectualized fish. Simply roasted in the oven? Yeah, just a little bit of extra virgin olive oil on the pan. Salt, pepper, maybe throw a piece, couple pieces of herb on there. Throw it in the oven at about 325 degrees and then low and slow. Bake it for 25 minutes. While that's happening, you can take your capers and lemon juice, put it in a pan, bring it up to a little simmer, hit it with butter at the end. Just mount it with butter, dash of Dijon mustard. That's it, you're done.
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Adam Carolla
And you pour that over.
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Andrew Gruel
Pour it right over.
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Adam Carolla
Don't put it on the fish before you put it in the oven.
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Andrew Gruel
No need to because it'll change the flavor. It'll get too salty because the capers will dehydrate. They're already salty to begin with. But here's the thing. I don't want to confuse you more, but I'm going to. You got California halibut and you've got Alaskan halibut. They're also two different fish. The California halibut is more of a flounder. It's a smaller ground fish. Whereas the Alaskan halibut is just that massive fat halibut with the big old filet. If you want something that's milder, go with the Alaskan halibut. If they're serving the California halibut, be ready for it to be not fishy, but we'll call it gamier.
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Adam Carolla
All right, tell me if I'm wrong and. Or a pussy in that. I travel with Mike August and Mike August when we're at a plane of Italian steakhouse, whatever, Long story. But he gets the steak. And he gets it. He wants it rare, right? And I'm like, I like medium rare or medium. And he likes it rare. Because the purists, Kimmel and Mike Gogstaff, they make fun of people who want to cook the steak. Now I'm not saying cook it all the way through, but I'm saying they want it bloody red. And my thing is like, I feel like I'm fighting with it when it's just red meat, essentially. And I'm also sort of saying, well, why are we cooking this if it's not really cooked? Like, I like it moist, I like it juicy, but I do want it cooked a little more than rare. But the purists go rare because part of it is they like it. The other part is they think it makes them better than you. So. And I get the well done. I do not do that. But am I wrong for not wanting to just sort of tear it red flesh essentially. Cuz by the time you get to the middle of it or near the middle of it, you're just eating what feels like warm raw steak to me.
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Andrew Gruel
I hate to do this again.
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Adam Carolla
Do it.
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Andrew Gruel
I'm gonna agree with you. No, don't.
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Adam Carolla
Do not.
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Andrew Gruel
And I've been saying this for years. I post about it on social and I get attacked for having low T, etc. I think the people who say I only eat my steak raw because I'm a real man, they're actually probably covering something up. The only steak you want to eat rare is filet. Do not eat any other steak blue rare. And here's why. There's tissue, muscle tissue in there. And we've talked about this in the past, there's a little bit of connective tissue. You do need to cook that past a certain point in order to not just break it down a little bit, but actually bring out the flavors. You cook it to bring out the flavors. So a rib eye, for example, you cook that thing but raw. I don't know whether buts are raw, but you get what I'm saying. You cook. Then you still got the uncongealed, you got fat that hasn't caramelized, it hasn't rendered. You've got sinew and some connective tissue in there that hasn't really broken down. And then you end up with the scraps on the plate. People are chewing it for an hour. Like it's.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. My argument is when you get to the outer edge and there's a little fat there and there's a little flame there, a little char there, I'm taking a bite of that. I'm getting a lot of flavor in my mouth. By the time we get to the center and it's just red warm cow, I'm just chewing on it like cud. Like I'm not really experiencing the flavor of it. So is medium acceptable?
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah, medium's acceptable. And you said well done is not acceptable. But I'll only eat braised short ribs, well done. Chuck shoulder well done roasts. Right. Like well done, meltingly tender braised roasts. Those are well done.
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Adam Carolla
Okay.
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Andrew Gruel
You know, so we can't kind of have like an absolute catch all. But the point is the heat brings out flavor that otherwise wouldn't exist.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah, I agree. And I can't and hadn't articulated it as well as you, but my feeling was is by the time we get to the raw stuff, I don't even know what cut of meat I'm eating. It's just chewy.
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Andrew Gruel
And then now throwing connective tissue, silver skin, sinew, and the fat. And that's not appetizing.
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Adam Carolla
I agree. All right. Best. And I brought this up to you in the past, but I do. I always want a refresher on it. What's the best omelet and more. I'll sometimes go with a scramble just because sometimes the omelette gets a little rubbery. Just a little bit of a rubbery skin around the ingredients. You know what I mean? But I'm fine with the omelette, but sort of prefer the scramble a little more. But what do we put? What is best?
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Andrew Gruel
An omelet. Like a pizza. Right. I look at them as one and the same. You gotta make it properly first, so you gotta have the right dough. Or in the case of an omelette, you gotta cook your eggs at a really low temperature. Because when you brown the omelette right, and it gets kinda tough. Like you said, browned eggs is the worst flavor in the world.
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Adam Carolla
Yes.
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Andrew Gruel
You can smell it just talking about it. That little bit that goes around the exterior of the pan. So you gotta cook it right. And then only use one or two ingredients. I think cheese is always a requirement to make it creamy. If you don't want the chees. Do a little creme fraiche or sour cream in there, but one or two ingredients, and that's up to you. Right. But if you overload the ingredients, or an omelet with ingredients like a pizza, it takes away from the integrity or the structure of the base, which is either the dough, the crust, or in this case, the eggs. So anything you want. I mean, I think there's really good combos in there. I think peppers and mushrooms are great cheese. Peppers, mushrooms. I think green peppers. One of the only areas in which they work well is eggs. I think it's a kind of a fruitier, sweeter flavor that goes really well with eggs.
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Adam Carolla
Yeah.
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Andrew Gruel
But if I'm eating my omelet, we do a lobster omelette with just fresh herbs and a little bit of a seasoned lemon, creamy lemon herb sauce on the inside. And it is. It is great because you got the soft kind of sweet and rich flavor of the eggs with that rich, buttery nature of the lobster. It's a killer.
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Adam Carolla
Another question. I get a lot of shit. I believe in the cheese enchilada, and I love an enchilada. But most people I talk to go, yeah, I've owned chicken in my enchilada. And I'm like, well, now it's a chicken enchilada. I just want an enchilada. I think like a. Okay. Nachos are nachos. You keep adding sour cream and chicken and everything else to it, and it's becoming something other than what it's supposed to be. And also, it folds under the weight. It wilts under the weight of all the shit you're scooping on top of it. I like the purity of nachos, like cheese chips, maybe, you know, some salsa or whatever on the side or whatever it is. But I like the basics. And a good cheese enchilada, I love mostly because I'm cutting it with the side of my fork, and it's just breaking off, and I put it in my mouth. It's not pulling. It's like a magician pulling ribbons from inside of the thing. Because when you get a piece of beef in there, then you pull on it, then the beef slides out. Now you've removed it. Same with the chicken. I'm old school. I like mole. If you go the right place. And I like cheese enchiladas, again, you do not have to agree with me.
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Andrew Gruel
Well, the enchiladas within Greek. Well, first of all, let me say enchiladas is like a Black tie quesadilla. Right. It's like a dressed up quesadilla. And with quesadillas, I don't like filling in my quesadilla for that experience.
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Adam Carolla
Exactly. With you, it's weird that people just feel like more is better all the time. Like they'll just go, you want quesadillas? And I go, yeah, I love quesadillas. Quesadilla is a quesadilla. You want beef quesadillas now we're not really into the quesadilla anymore.
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah, you're into a burrito without the rice or you're into some sort of a stuffed hot pocket with the enchiladas. The key is that you've got to. You gotta use the right tortilla. Right. Like you wanna make sure that the tortillas are fresh so that they're not flaking. I hate when you bite into something and then you get the enchilada tortilla sh. That's kind of flaked out and you get more of like a chiliquiles. But I'm going to go back to you on the nachos because I thought about this. We talked about this at one point, and I took this to my technique of building nachos. I truly did think about this. I think about you when I cook.
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Adam Carolla
Thank you.
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Andrew Gruel
Is when you build a nacho.
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Adam Carolla
Look, I don't want to call myself your muse, but I think that's what.
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Andrew Gruel
You'Re saying, you know?
- [30:07]
Adam Carolla
Well, don't tell the old lady.
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Andrew Gruel
She reads my diary. The nachos should be built as if you are a personal chef and you are individually building a chip for your guest. Right. So sometimes this is a cute thing me and my wife do is she'll be like, give me a chip. She'll build me a chip with a little salsa and she'll like put a bean on there or something. Here's your chip. You know, it's very endearing when you're building a plate of nachos. You should think of it from that perspective. Every single chip should be perfectly layered as opposed to layer of chips. Dry dump, everything on top of it implodes on itself. And now you just have.
- [30:45]
Adam Carolla
And it emulsifies too. It starts falling apart, it gets gooey at the bottom, and it's really. I think it's like an ugly American thing that we've decided we have to supersize and sort of keep going. You know, we gotta have pizza and it's gotta have cheese in the crust and hot Dogs in the crust and it's like, it's just. Stop it. Just make good nachos. The pump cheese nacho thing, I don't even want to get started. I've done days on this subject. These people drive me insane. There's so many of them out there, they don't even know what I'm talking about when I tell them they're not eating nachos. But what is a good nacho for you?
- [31:23]
Andrew Gruel
So layering, like I said, the first thing you've got to do is you take your chips and you get a really good cheese on there and you take a microplane.
- [31:31]
Adam Carolla
What is a really good cheese?
- [31:33]
Andrew Gruel
You're gonna laugh, right? But I'll actually work a little bit. Well, okay. I'll start with a mozzarella because it's just a clean cheese that melts well, you gotta have a good melt factor. Alright. And then I'll work in some sort of a smoked cheddar, like an applewood smoked cheddar. Get the smokiness. Then I'll do a little bit of aged parmesan. Now I do that. You're probably thinking that's weird. You won't pick up the parmesan. Parmesan has natural umami, right? So there's actually umami in there that you would typically get from msg. So you're doing that for that rich, wholesome flavor on your palate. It I'll layer the chips and then I'll get the cheese on every single layer. I'll do a little drizzle of salsauce and then at the top of that sauce, a little salsa, right? So I'll do it just a little bit in there so it melts in with the cheese and creates kind of a queso fondido, you know, salsa type of cheese. Then I'll do a layer on top with just some pickled, you know, some pickled serrano chilies, maybe a few beans on there. And I'll do some braised short rib, but not a huge heaping pile. Just enough so then the meat, when you throw it in the oven, the meat kind of drips through the nachos. You can pull that bottom piece out and it's got the meat juice drippings, it's got the perfect amount of cheese melted on it, but the chip is still crispy. That's the most important thing.
- [32:40]
Adam Carolla
Where we at with oil and seed oil and this whole movement and a lot of fast food places saying they're going to make the move. You know, businesses, especially fast food, they're there to make money and they won't switch things unless there's some sort of incentive monetarily, usually. And people are sort of, well, do the right thing, but they don't do the right thing. They make the most money. But if it becomes popular and people start going, well, I'm gonna see if those fries are cooked in tallow or cooked in seed oil, then they will make the change. And I don't know what you're seeing out there. It was still the buzz several months ago. It's died down a little, but what do you know?
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah, it has died down. People have moved on. There's still a huge portion of the market that's seeking that out, but they're seeking it out from restaurants that were already doing it. I wouldn't say there's been a huge change within the restaurant industry. The availability of these products have not gotten more available by virtue of demand. I kind of use that as the index. And looking at a lot of the suppliers is like, are they providing this product now? No, they're not. So if they took it seriously, they would have actually started to bring on the supply and they didn't. We've been using beef towel since 2018, 2019. Way before this was hot. So it's already been part of our constitution.
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Adam Carolla
Are you using it for deep frying?
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah, we do beef towel for deep frying. We do avocado oil, extra virgin olive oil, duck fat, chicken fat, bacon fat, pork lard. We use like all these different types of fats.
- [34:15]
Adam Carolla
What is the difference in a French fry taste wise with the beef versus the seed oil?
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Andrew Gruel
It's clean, cleaner. Right. So I made the original switch because of flavor, not because of health and all that. And then I real. And then afterwards I realized, oh, wow, this is helping us, because I was looking at how much Omega 6s we were consuming, and the primary area in which we get those sixes is seed oil. Seed oil is in absolutely everything. So whenso for me personally, I was having issues because of that internal inflammation and I said, I'm gonna cut out mymy sixes. And when I did, I realized that food tasted different. Different, Right. And then I wasn't getting food tasted.
- [34:50]
Adam Carolla
Different to you whether it had seed oil or not.
- [34:53]
Andrew Gruel
Exactly. Because what happens is the seed oils leave you with this bitter, acrid finish on your palate. Seed oils are highly industrialized, they're low quality, and they're very, very bitter. So when they're, especially in a restaurant, when they're sitting in a fryer at 375 degrees for 12, 14 hours. Or sitting on a flat top because, nope, they're not wiping the flat top off, off every time they cook, right? So that seed oil just sits there and rolls. It gets highly oxygenated or oxidized. It burns. And then your food has that in there. Have you ever eaten something where there's grease that's stuck to it and it's almost brown and you bite and you're like, oh, that's nasty.
- [35:27]
Adam Carolla
Right?
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Andrew Gruel
So what I did was I said, I'm going to taste this piece of clean food with the seed oils and this piece of clean food with the beef tallow and some of the other fats. And what happens with the tallow? I wouldn't say it tastes beefy. It does not. It is actually a relatively neutral flavor. It's just that your palate doesn't have a coating, a bitter CO on it afterwards that runs through in every single bite of all the other food that you taste. You had Benny Johnson on here, I think, a couple weeks ago. He swung down by the restaurant. We were having a conversation. He said he'd cut seed oils out completely. Anecdotally, he went and got McDonald's one night. It was the only thing open. He said he took two bites of it and his palate tasted like he was eating like bitter, burnt nuts. He couldn't, really couldn't handle it. It's like the first drink back after you've fallen off the wagon. You can't handle it. It and the seed oils are the same way. So it's a flavor thing. We're not nutritionists. It's a flavor thing. You're going to get a cleaner flavor. Most of my customers say, why can I go to your restaurant and I can eat the fries, the fish and chips, all your fried food, and I don't feel heavy, I don't feel sick afterwards and bloated. And we tell them we cook in tallow, and they're like, that makes no sense.
- [36:33]
Adam Carolla
Is tallow much more expensive than seed oil?
- [36:37]
Andrew Gruel
It's a little bit more expensive. What we did was I figured operationally we're using too much fat when we cook to begin with. That's America, right? Fat is flavor, right? So you dump the butter in there and all this fat, right? We think the fat prevents the food from sticking and that the fat also adds flavor. And that's actually the complete opposite. A clean grill that's with seasoned grates, be it a cast iron pan, a carbon steel pan or a grill, will prevent the Food from sticking. So what I did was I trained all my cooks to use less fat but keep cleaner cooking surfaces. So we cut our overall fat usage by 50%. The price went up 40, so I'm net 10 effectively. So I actually saved money. But it was an operational change, not necessarily an apples to apples on the product.
- [37:23]
Adam Carolla
Right. I'm looking at your book. I'm not looking at the back of the book, but I'm wondering what some of your highlights are.
- [37:33]
Andrew Gruel
The one you were looking at on the back was the Cheez its. We do our own fresh made Cheez itself. Kids love those.
- [37:39]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. How do you do those?
- [37:41]
Andrew Gruel
It's just butter. It's just butter and cheese and a little bit of flour baked in everything in here. This is not over intellectualized food. You know, this isn't. This isn't, you know, scoffier style food where you're getting. You got to pick some tomato that was harvested by a Saint Bernard who has offspring in Canada. This is just good, approachable recipes. No seed oils. I had my kids do all the recipes, so I knew they worked.
- [38:07]
Adam Carolla
I mean, they enjoyed them.
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah, right. So like that one, the raspberry and the chocolate and the nuts, the toasted almonds on there, it's an alternative to a peanut butter and jelly. You know, these are simple dishes that everybody knows with a little bit of a spin.
- [38:21]
Adam Carolla
I got something else I wanted to bring up. We'll dabble in food as we go. I found out recently or the other day that looked like the Menendez brothers may be finding a path out from prison. And I woke up this morning to an email from Mark Gargos, who told me that he used my argument, which got Mark Gargos into the fray. He was not the Menendez, he was not their counsel. But I made an argument to him several years ago about why they needed to get out, and it stuck with him. And then he told me he used it in his closing arguments to try to get the Menendez boys out, which I'm always profoundly flattered of. And it was a simple thing, but it somehow made sense to him. And it was a joke, but to him it wasn't a joke. Well, it's a joke that had a lot of truth to it. And I don't know if there's any. There's footage of him saying, Adam told me this, and that's when I got involved with the case. So hopefully when the Menendez boys get out, they'll swing by here and sit down for an interview after they get paid. Like somebody's gonna pay them for the first one.
- [39:55]
Andrew Gruel
What's the joke? You gotta tell us the joke.
- [39:57]
Adam Carolla
Oh, the joke was, I got a daughter and I got a son. I got boy, girl, twins. And if the daughter ever went into my son's room and said, I'm thinking about often mom and dad with a shotgun, and I'm thinking about doing it Sunday night, and my son said, this Sunday or the following Sunday, then that would mean we were shitty parents. Because one of them should have piped up and said, hold on, I'm not fucking doing this. Like, if you really think about it, if one kid can go rogue. But I don't think my daughter, even if she went rogue, could talk my son into snuffing their parents out. Unless we were horrific parents, in which case. And then it's a sort of nature, nurture thing. You pick. Is it nature or is it nurture? Like, how did you ruin these kids? But basically the gist of it is, if both kids agree, it's a good idea to take you out. You probably weren't great parents.
- [41:01]
Andrew Gruel
Yeah, the unanimous vote.
- [41:02]
Adam Carolla
Unanimous vote. I'd like to think that my son would put up an argument it. That's all I'm saying. So I always joked about it, but I always kind of thought, well, there is some truth to that. Like, one of them would go, I'm not doing this. I love Mom. I love dad. They've always been great, and they provided for us and blah, blah, blah. But if they were horrible, then maybe they would go along with it.
- [41:30]
Andrew Gruel
That's right on it.
- [41:31]
Adam Carolla
Also, they've been in prison for 30 years plus. And I was thinking about it yesterday. I have a sort of a thing in my head which is going to prison serves two purposes. One is punishment, and the other is getting you away from society because you can do more harm. And so if you're like a person that just sort of randomly pushed someone onto the subway track in New York, some commuter, you're very dangerous to me. You don't even know the person. And you weren't even robbing them. You just pushed them. That's just destruction. And that person is the scariest person of all, and I want them off the streets. Then you get into domestic stuff like the wife that poisons the husband to collect the insurance. And I go, I want that person in prison. But I don't feel like that person is a danger to me or my kids when we're on the subway. So there's a sort of weight. Like, how much punishment do you deserve? And also, do you possess a. Is there a danger to society? What happens if you get out? We hear all these stories where it's like the guy was in New York, he was arrested 80 times and he just went through the turnstile at the police department and he finally killed somebody, you know, that I don't want, I don't want that at all. The Menendez boys check both boxes for me because A, they've been in prison for 30 years plus, so there's punishment has been, you know, I'll check the box on the punishment. You've been in prison longer than 25 years and posing a danger to society. I'm gonna check that box too. Cuz I just don't think. Think they're gonna kill again.
- [43:28]
Andrew Gruel
Yeah, I mean, I'll play devil's advocate and to be honest, I don't have a solid position on this, but if you're capable, someone who's capable of killing and can cross that line, that line of morality in absent self defense or vengeance. Right. Cause I think of ways in which I would be capable. You know, anybody does something to my kids, wife, family, et cetera, or self defense in wartime or just somebody's trying.
- [43:52]
Adam Carolla
To kill you, oh, you put American cheese in an enchilada and I'm coming for you.
- [43:56]
Andrew Gruel
Yeah, yeah. The situations like that, culinary crimes, you know, are they capable of doing it again? Are they capable of crossing over that moral line? Who knows?
- [44:04]
Adam Carolla
No, I'm with you. It does take something to cross that and that's a part of your brain that's there and it's never gonna be there for you or I to do it that way. On the other hand, I don't know, when you're 19, there's a bunch of stuff you're capable of versus 57. I know I had a lot of things I was capable of that I'm not capable of anymore. And I agree. And to me this isn't a slam dunk. I'm like, I'm not going to make a full throated argument and tell you with 100% certitude why these guys need to be free. I'm just gonna say, as a taxpayer, I feel like we got bigger fish to fry in terms of incarcerations and I'll make some room for some other fellas. And I feel like 30 years plus is good enough for me.
- [45:02]
Andrew Gruel
Well, and if you apply the double standard defense, if you will, especially here in California, everybody, They'd be out in a second. Right?
- [45:10]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [45:10]
Andrew Gruel
You know, the double standard defense because the people who. And that person you described 80 times. Arrested, released, arrested, released. And then they kill nine people. Be it drunk driving or intentional, that's ultimately the game.
- [45:25]
Adam Carolla
All right, onto another subject. I was in here the other day with Jay Moore and we're breaking down the Al Pacino 1980 film Cruising where he's an undercover cop who goes gay. In the movie, he goes undercover as gay so he can bust the serial killer in New York City. I guess all the New York crime is reminding me of this. And we played a clip of it yesterday. The first clip is the actual clip from the movie which sets the table. It's Al Pacino going into a store to buy bandanas to figure out which gay bandana to wear. So he blends in when he's trying to infiltrate the. He's trying to infiltrate the gay scene.
- [46:15]
Andrew Gruel
The bandanas. Gay.
- [46:17]
Adam Carolla
Oh, man. So young. So naive. So young and naive. The bandanas is a system. It's like a semi force system to let the gay guys know what you're up for.
- [46:31]
Andrew Gruel
Okay.
- [46:32]
Adam Carolla
You see the yellow one, the brown one, the green one, and lets everyone know what is it specifically you're into as a gay individual?
- [46:42]
Andrew Gruel
I don't even want to know. The brown one.
- [46:45]
Adam Carolla
So this is from the movie. Excuse me, Could I ask about these? What about them? What are they for? Light blue, Hank, in your left back pocket means you want a blow job. Right pocket means you give one.
- [47:06]
Unknown
The green one, left side says you're a hustler.
- [47:08]
Adam Carolla
Right side you're a buyer. Yellow one, left side means you give gold in the shower. Right side you receive. The red one means thank you. All right, so Jay Moore was in and he does a killer Al Pacino. So I thought that we would recreate this scene where I would be the proprietor of the bandana store and he would be Al Pacino. And it just made me laugh so much. I've been thinking about it. I just thought we'd play it out.
- [47:38]
Unknown
So if I got this right, if I wear a baby blue bandana in my back left pocket, it doesn't mean I'm a Crip.
- [47:44]
Adam Carolla
No, no.
- [47:45]
Unknown
It means I want to suck somebody's dick.
- [47:48]
Adam Carolla
Well, the blue. The.
- [47:50]
Unknown
All the crips are coming out of the closet.
- [47:52]
Adam Carolla
The white blue means what we. You're what we call Greco active. Okay. And I could. I'll tell you what. What? You seem new to the game.
- [48:00]
Unknown
I'm very new. You know what? I was going to come in here with a big front, but I can't front you are a big, balmy man.
- [48:06]
Adam Carolla
You okay? You knew the game. I'll tell you what I got in the New York Post.
- [48:09]
Unknown
What is that?
- [48:09]
Adam Carolla
You know what I got. What is that? What you got? Yeah. Tony and Tina's wedding.
- [48:14]
Unknown
I loved it. It was a romp.
- [48:15]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah. It's a light hearted romp.
- [48:17]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [48:18]
Adam Carolla
I'll tell you what I got. I got a laminate here you can keep in your wallet. A laminate? Well, you know, some people use it for tipping.
- [48:25]
Unknown
Yeah, I use it for my bat. I mean my.
- [48:28]
Adam Carolla
This is for what? Bandana? To put in which pocket?
- [48:31]
Unknown
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [48:34]
Adam Carolla
See what I'm saying?
- [48:35]
Unknown
So I won't be caught short.
- [48:36]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I'm saying you don't want to put the yellow bandana in the wrong pocket.
- [48:41]
Unknown
You're going to get my own little playbook.
- [48:44]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Like the guys on the side. More like the quarterback wristband.
- [48:47]
Unknown
That's what I'm thinking.
- [48:48]
Adam Carolla
That's what you're thinking.
- [48:49]
Unknown
In the future.
- [48:49]
Adam Carolla
In the future hasn't been invented yet.
- [48:52]
Unknown
So if I'm not mistaken, the blue bandana, I put my back left pocket. That means I want to suck a cock.
- [48:59]
Adam Carolla
Uh huh.
- [48:59]
Unknown
If I put in my right pocket, I want you to suck my cock.
- [49:03]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Not me, but yeah, I get what you're saying.
- [49:05]
Unknown
Not you.
- [49:06]
Adam Carolla
No, I'm saying one.
- [49:07]
Unknown
Are you gay?
- [49:08]
Adam Carolla
No, no, I just run a gay flag shop. And what about my parents had this shop in the 40s. They left it to me.
- [49:15]
Unknown
What about all these little poppers in the glass down here?
- [49:18]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, Emil poppers.
- [49:19]
Unknown
You want to do one with me?
- [49:20]
Adam Carolla
By the way, Emil with an answer, I am tired of explaining it. Can I ask? Yeah.
- [49:28]
Unknown
What's the most popular color bandana you see coming in here or walking by on the sidewalk on the way to the gay club?
- [49:36]
Adam Carolla
You know, I get asked this question a lot. Oh, good. And I give the same answer every time. The most popular color, the best color.
- [49:43]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [49:43]
Adam Carolla
Is the one you like the best.
- [49:46]
Unknown
Oh my God, you could sell snow to a fucking Eskimo, couldn't you? You could sell cock to a game.
- [49:52]
Adam Carolla
So I'll put you down a 10 pack of Amy Poppers. Benoit Balls. I want all of it, all of the bandanas.
- [50:01]
Unknown
I'll take all the amyl nitrates, I'll take all the bandanas. And I'll take your phone number, pal.
- [50:07]
Adam Carolla
Okay, Remember, I'm not gay. My shirts started this gay apparel shop in the 40s.
- [50:12]
Unknown
I'm not gay either, man.
- [50:15]
Adam Carolla
You're not?
- [50:16]
Unknown
No.
- [50:17]
Adam Carolla
What are you, some Kind of undercover cop.
- [50:19]
Andrew Gruel
Hey, what the fuck, man?
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Adam Carolla
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Adam Carolla
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- [52:41]
Andrew Gruel
You know what's funny about that is that is essentially every experience my servers have now tableside at the restaurant. But it's about the ingredients in the menu. It's really the same thing though.
- [52:51]
Adam Carolla
Really.
- [52:52]
Andrew Gruel
They're asking what they're crazy people asking what does this mean and what does this mean? And you got this and you got this and what does this mean? And that's it. They'd be a great server at a restaurant.
- [53:03]
Adam Carolla
You're uniquely qualified to answer this, which just happened to me last weekend and I don't like it at all. I went out, just me with my girlfriend and we went to a restaurant never eaten at before and it was okay. And the server was sort of lackluster like he did things like dropped off a sushi tray. He just dropped the sushi tray off and left. And then we just stared at this sushi tray because there wasn't any chopsticks and there wasn't any. What the hell, Soy sauce. And there wasn't any of the accoutrements that went along with it. Little bowls or anything. And so we just sort of looked at it for a while and I was like, like, are we supposed to just do it by hand? But then I like a little soy sauce, you know? And then we just sat and looked at for a while and then he came around again and I said, you got soy sauce for this? And what's the hot stuff called? The hot.
- [54:18]
Andrew Gruel
The wasabi.
- [54:19]
Adam Carolla
Wasabi. I go, is there some soy sauce and some wasabi? And he goes, oh, we don't do the wasabi with the crispy rice. Whatever. And I went, oh, okay. But soy sauce? And he goes, yeah, yeah. And then he came back and he brought soy sauce and chopsticks, which is like, okay, fucker, you just dropped this food off. We're supposed to just eat it with our hands. But also, you could have brought some wasabi over. Why not? Maybe I like it that way. Either way. My girlfriend ordered a Diet Coke and made this mistake because you can't do this anymore, people. I tell people all the time, she goes, I have a Diet Coke, but just with the food. When you bring the meal. Okay, it's gone. It's gone, baby. It is gone. Yeah, it's gone. You're talking to dumb shits who don't care. And we're talking about, we've jumped ahead 21 minutes. In the future, there will be no Diet Coke. And then when they don't bring the Diet Coke at some point, you get halfway through your meal and you go, hey, remember that Diet Coke? And the guy literally goes, yeah, the bar is pretty backed up.
- [55:17]
Andrew Gruel
Oh, boy.
- [55:18]
Adam Carolla
And I'm like, okay. So then the fucking check comes and it's got the 20% tip baked in.
- [55:24]
Andrew Gruel
Yeah.
- [55:25]
Adam Carolla
And it's like, it's just two of us. It's not a softball team. It's two people. You gave a shitty service. I would like the option to give you less than 20%. I probably wouldn't have, but you baking in 20% in calling it a tip is like you selling BMWs and go, we're just going to put a 20% surcharge onto every car we sell, but we'll call it a tip. It's like, it's not a tip. It's part of the sticker price. It's baked in. It's not a tip. I tell people all the time, once you bake it in, it's just like, well, California state tax, I don't know, 9.9%. Is that a tip? It's half of what the tip is. It's just another thing that's baked in. I don't think it's legal. I certainly. I don't think it's ethical.
- [56:18]
Andrew Gruel
It's not ethical. It was almost illegal by way of SB731, which was the service that. The fee legislation that Newsom actually shot down at the last minute because so many people, the restaurant industry lobbyists got him to shoot it down. But it was the whole, you can't have fees that aren't specifically listed up front, etc. And then it turns into. What's a tip? A service charge. But let me back up. Let me tell you what that is, what you experience. Everyone asked me, it must be so rough. In a restaurant industry, you guys can't do remote work. That's remote work, right?
- [56:48]
Adam Carolla
Right.
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Andrew Gruel
Yeah. They're there, right? But they're doing. They're phoning it in, so. Because what happened in restaurants when everybody else got to work in their PJs and do 60% of what work their job required, those working in a service industry were like, well, I want that too, but I can't. I don't have that job. So they took the remote work mindset to actual work. So that's what that is right there. 60, 70% of what the job demands. Remote work.
- [57:13]
Adam Carolla
Oh.
- [57:14]
Andrew Gruel
And I want the same amount of money, if not more, by way of the 20% tip. And I've never heard of. By the way. I have never heard of a mandatory tip on two people.
- [57:22]
Adam Carolla
Not on two people.
- [57:23]
Andrew Gruel
Was it la?
- [57:24]
Adam Carolla
Yup.
- [57:24]
Andrew Gruel
Yeah, There you go. And I'll guarantee you that they're not. That the restaurant itself is taking a cut of that. Oh, yeah, Guaranteed.
- [57:33]
Adam Carolla
Well, that then begs the question, like, I like the flexibility to go up with excellent service and go down with poor service. Also, the. The two glasses of water he served up to us, you put your hand on the glass, it was warm. Like, both of them warm like, not room temp warm. Like, I was like. He carried the glasses over. He could feel they were warm. It was just shit service.
- [57:58]
Andrew Gruel
You know what, though? So I'll tell you how I run my restaurants. We don't do the mandatory tipping. Okay. And I actually encourage my guests not to tip well if the service is bad, I personally will always subsidize up to 20% for my servers. So just this last weekend, Mother's Day, we could have a whole episode on the horrors of running a restaurant on Mother's Day. Oh, man, we had a lot of servers get. Get stiffed because it's the one day of the year some people go out, they're already spending money that they don't have, and they want to find a reason why X or Y wasn't good. They screw the server.
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Adam Carolla
What's stiffed mean?
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Andrew Gruel
No tip. No tip at all.
- [58:32]
Adam Carolla
Stiff to zero.
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Andrew Gruel
Stiffed is zero tip. Oh, great time. They're complimentary.
- [58:36]
Adam Carolla
I don't. You know, I don't. I'm gonna sound virtuous, but I don't have that. I don't have a stiff gear. That sounds insane to me too.
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Andrew Gruel
We've had the worst ever, and. But I always eat.
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Adam Carolla
Are they hiding? See, here's an interesting unintended consequences thing, which is if you build in and bake in the tip too often, then people will hide behind that and go, oh, I thought the tip was because if you talk to the person who stiffed the server at your restaurant on the sidewalk in front of your restaurant on their way out, and you go, hey, man, the thing came to 57 bucks, and you gave them 57 bucks. What about the tip? They would. You'd see a little fear in their eye, and they'd go, oh, I thought that was built. I thought it's built in, like a Mother's Day thing or part of the Whatever or that. I think they would say that a lot.
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Andrew Gruel
50% of it would be that, and the other 50% would be some crazy excuse about how it was horrible and, you know, X, Y, and Z or just play dumb. But you are right. So Europeans. You don't get tips from Europeans. Canadian. A lot of Canadians as well, because the tip is built in. So they assume. Most of them know, but they play the whole, like, well, I'm European, and we always. The tip is included in the wage. But when. When that happens to my servers, I always cover. I give them personally the 20%. And then if it ends up happening on multiple. You see, they love it because they come to me say, hey, Andrew, this table screwed me. It's a catch 22. Now. They come to me three times in a week. Week. Four times in a week. They either stop coming to me because they don't want to tell me because there's a reason. There's a Pattern, right. With the one offs. It's always going to happen. And I'll cover the difference. That's how you got to run your business. Then do people know you got their back? But Mother's Day, my God, it was unbelievable. Some of the complaints to people showing up with fake reservations that they didn't make, people arguing over tables, people sneaking in the back way, taking tables. And then when we tried to seat a reservation, there was already somebody sitting there.
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Adam Carolla
There.
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Andrew Gruel
Squatters. Restaurant squatters are people.
- [60:42]
Adam Carolla
People in general, I have noticed, are getting nervy. Yeah, they're just asking for things they shouldn't ask for. Women have been empowered to some stage where they're like going to be vocal and lead the charge on everything. And it's like, we need to tamp it down a little bit. And it's because society has a protocol. And it's like, well, you call, you make a reservation, somebody writes your name down, you get in first. But then there's also sort of just sort of give and take. Like, oh, after you. Or you were waiting for this parking spot before I pulled up. That's your space. You know what I mean? Now it's turning a little into a free for all. I've noticed. And people are getting real asky and pushy and nervy, and there's some sort of. Of feeling of entitlement that is. See, this is my. I argue with people all the time about bringing your fucking dog on an airplane. And they go, what's wrong? I like dogs. First off. Okay, you like dogs, good. Join North America and the rest of humanity, you fucking idiot. Everyone loves dogs. I love my dog. I don't bring my dog on a plane, but I love my dog. So we got to figure out why you bring your dog on a plane. Not claim that I don't love my dog or love dogs. And so there's a kind of a boldness that society used to kind of take care of itself. Now it's just kind of game on. And people do this. I'll put it. There's a tweet up there. I started a Twitter thread over the weekend where I was just like, I said, no dogs of any size should fly. If you can't get on a fly, I can't get on a flight with 4 ounces worth of toothpaste. Let's stop. I'm sorry, I can't read it from here, but let's stop these accommodating people who lack character. And then everyone went nuts on me, like, oh, I like My dog. How am I supposed to get my dog? Let's say I'm going to Indiana and I want my dog. It's like you leave your fucking dog at home because you're traveling, because that's what we do. And then people go, I'd rather sit next to a dog than half the people. Okay, what if everyone brought their dog on a flight? Then it'd be 185 dogs on a flight, you fucking idiot. Just, we have to have rules, that's all. I like my dog, you like your dog, Dawson likes his dog. And then you get on a plane and the dog stays at home. And then people go, well, you know, it's expensive to pour. Yeah, yeah, that's up to you, bitch. That's not up to me. That's. That's you. You got a dog, then you got to figure out, get your neighbor to watch a dog, get your mother in law to watch board the dog. I don't know. That's not up to me to figure the fuck out for you and your dog. I don't want a dog on a flight. That's it. But the reason I don't want it, it's symbolic more than I don't, I don't have dander issues. I don't want it because it's a, it's a general pulling of the thread of the sweater of humanity that's coming un. You see, the same narcissistic douchebag who's bringing the dog on the airplane is the same one that's sneaking around and sitting at the table, who's the same way, doesn't want to pay the tip. The same person that's complaining about stuff, the self entitled douchebag. We need to tamp it down, people.
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Andrew Gruel
Oh my gosh, I couldn't agree with you more. Lauren and I talk about this all the time because we deal with it at the restaurant. Everyone brings their animals into the restaurant and, and to me, once again, I love dogs. I. Animals in a restaurant is disgusting. That is a health hazard. I mean, I work to keep that restaurant perfectly clean. One animal comes in with ticks or fleas or stepped in poop or what have you, which we know they do now. It's tread throughout the whole restaurant and there's a hepatitis outbreak and people don't want to deal with the other animals. We're sitting in the middle of service and these dogs are barking full, full capacity in the middle of service because a little shih Tzu came in and ticked off the other dog. The Reason we let him in is because. Do you know, by law, we have to.
- [64:48]
Adam Carolla
Because they say service dogs.
- [64:49]
Andrew Gruel
Yep. And you're not allowed to ask. I had a guy.
- [64:52]
Adam Carolla
Not allowed to ask.
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Andrew Gruel
I had a guy with a parrot. This is a true story. I post about it on X. Came in. We said he couldn't bring his parrot in. It was on his shoulder. He was the guy at the pier with the parrot on the shoulder and trying to be weird, have kids, talk to his parrot. And all the parrot did was walk around and say, hey there, buddy.
- [65:06]
Adam Carolla
You like pineapple? Apple?
- [65:08]
Andrew Gruel
You like pineapple? That's all it did the whole time.
- [65:10]
Adam Carolla
Cut.
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Andrew Gruel
Different guy comes in the restaurant. Lawrence says, he can't have your parrot. He pulls out this thing that he printed off online. Got my parrots coming in. It's an emotional service, support parrot. We wouldn't let him in. He threatened to sue. Caused a scene outside the restaurant. And here's the crazy thing. People came in, in his defense, always, you know, the guy, you know, he could. He could be suffering from anxiety. How about the freaking parrot?
- [65:33]
Adam Carolla
Okay, Everyone, they go, oh, it's a small dog. Or I like my dog. Or my dog's not a hassle. And my answer is always the same answer. Leave your fucking dog at home. Or here's an option. You don't have to go to the restaurant. You can sit home, make yourself some enchiladas with chicken and beef in them and enjoy that.
- [65:58]
Andrew Gruel
And punch cheese, Push cheese.
- [66:00]
Adam Carolla
Push cheese with you and your dog. And you don't have to get on a commercial flight if you don't want to. You can take a bus, you can take a train, or you can drive, or you cannot go at all. I don't know what the answer is. The answer is, is no fucking dogs in a restaurant and no fucking dogs on a plane. That's it. And. And. Or everywhere.
- [66:21]
Andrew Gruel
This is getting me angry.
- [66:22]
Adam Carolla
It drives me nuts. And the problem is, is these people need to be beaten down, not propped up. The government and society essentially props these assholes up. They give them loopholes. Oh, you're not allowed to ask.
- [66:41]
Andrew Gruel
Yep.
- [66:42]
Adam Carolla
Okay. If you are incapable of going out to a restaurant without your dog, then something is so broken in you that you need to move into a therapist's office. You understand? And eat there. This is the dog and the parrot and the ferret. It is not going to correct this problem. You understand? Now, 90% of you, I'll put it to you this way. I got a $10,000 rule that solves every problem in Life. And you can use it with your kids. I unfortunately, almost always use it with adults, sadly. But I'll say to people all the time, I'll go to somebody like, hey, man, let's get all those boxes out of the back air and throw them outside. Just do it before you leave on Friday. And then at some point I'll come back on Saturday and the boxes all be sitting back there. And then I'll say to the person, what happened to moving the boxes out before you left on Friday? And they'll go, yeah, I was going to do it, but I was caught up with some other stuff and I was kind of running. I was up against it, so I figured I'd do it on Monday. Then I say, what if? I said, if you move those boxes by the end of the day on Friday, I'll give you $10,000. They always go, oh, yeah, I would have done it. Then I go, okay, so you can do it. Yeah, you just. You didn't want to or you chose not to. So if you took the people and said, look, you got a service animal. Yeah, I gotta fly with my service animal. Right. Cause I can't fly without my service animal. Right. What if I offered you $10,000 to go from Burbank to Phoenix without your dog? Do you think you could make it? And if the answer is yes, then shut the fuck up.
- [68:21]
Andrew Gruel
There you go.
- [68:22]
Adam Carolla
Every single one of those fucks would do it.
- [68:24]
Andrew Gruel
It's good.
- [68:25]
Adam Carolla
Immediately. They would immediately do it.
- [68:28]
Andrew Gruel
So I'm going to expand on the thesis of, you said, this is really kind of pulling the stitch from the. From the sweater of society, which I totally agree.
- [68:37]
Adam Carolla
I should jump in quick and say, when people say to me, what do you care so much about? I don't care so much about that. I see our society crumbling.
- [68:47]
Andrew Gruel
Yep, yep. And.
- [68:48]
Adam Carolla
And that's what I care about.
- [68:50]
Andrew Gruel
And I'll give you real world evidence of that. During the pandemic, when crime was being completely ignored, you know what went up in our restaurants? Like, 100% shortchangers and dine and dashers. Right. And my philosophy on this, we didn't. We couldn't isolate, oh, that person's going to be a diner. Dash. You couldn't profile. It was people of all walks of life was that when people saw that crime, real, true crime was being ignored, they thought, well, that gives me a little leeway. If that's not getting busted, I have the moral strength. I didn't like my service. I'm gonna shortchange a little. So it's this soft crime that occurs, right?
- [69:25]
Adam Carolla
Yes. A broken window or whatever. And it's also, there becomes a point. There comes a point of saturation where you would be a fool not to fly with your dog. Cause you can and everyone else does. Exactly. Now, now the burden is on you. Yeah, I mean, not the burden, but I'm just saying, like, at a certain point, who's the sucker? You know what I mean? Everyone else is just flying with their dogs.
- [69:51]
Andrew Gruel
We're the suckers. So this is introduction of communism, because the idea is you're all gonna take care of my dog. Yes, it's my dog. But you all need to deal with it. And effectively, that's the foundation of communism.
- [70:02]
Adam Carolla
I got a few replies to my leave your fucking dog at home, decorate. By the way, I do like.
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Andrew Gruel
To.
- [70:10]
Adam Carolla
Show you how we've come undone as a society. My two most controversial tweets of the last six months have been, I have an idea. Why don't you take care of your family and your friends and not rely so much on the government? That caused a firestorm, big backlash, that crazy thought. And now my second crazy thought is, do not fly with your dog. I would like to show people these tweets from the 50s and go, could you imagine? There's a huge backlash between not flying with your dog and taking care of yourself and your family. Okay. Jessica Ng says, if I have to buy seats for my dogs, if I have to buy seats, I will. And you can go fuck yourself. Never trust someone who don't like dogs. I guess again, this is that Scarecrow man, that bullshit Wicker man argument they make all the times, like, hey, black families, stay together. Dads raise your kids. You don't like black people? Oh, no, I like black people. That's why I don't want them to join gangs and get shot on the street. That's why I'm saying that I love dogs. I don't love them in restaurants and on airplanes because others don't as well. Well, slime just wrote back, you're dumb. Cynical trooper wrote back, lmao. Fuck you. Most dogs are better than most people. Consider being less miserable. The guy who created one of the most misogynistic shows in the history of television talking about lacking character. That's rich.
- [72:02]
Mayhem Miller
These are all ad hominem attacks too. No one is actually talking about the issue. It's if you don't want dogs on planes, you hate dogs.
- [72:12]
Adam Carolla
I know.
- [72:13]
Andrew Gruel
There's the straw man you talk about.
- [72:15]
Adam Carolla
That's my favorite. What was the long let's see, let's see. I've always found this to be weird and self centered. People go on trips to leave their kids at home. This is why. This is a very niche case. What about it bothers you, huh? I don't know why you put that one on there, but you know, can I tell? Also when people go, like I said, they go, why are you obsessed with or who cares? Or so what, I just go or you just leave your dogs at home? There's bunches of rules. Look, I like to travel with my trusty pocket knife, but guess what? There's a rule and I don't get to bring it on an airplane. That's how it works. This one. Oh, Doug and big dog wrote, I'd rather sit next to that dog than someone who is so fat that cannot wipe the rear end properly. And then a picture of a fat guy. But I'm not sure what point we're making here. But either way, it's funny.
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Andrew Gruel
It's a burden to everybody on the plane, whether you want to say it is or it isn't. And people won't admit that because they want to be docile and they want to go along with the flow mass formation psychosis. But let me tell you something. I took a red eye about four months back. I get on the plane and I'm in thei already get moved to the bulkhead. Lady comes in, sits at the window with a lab, right? Some sort of a lab mix. Nice dog. Nice lady. She was chatting my ear off. Kind of crazy, but whatever kind and nice. We're on the plane and the dog's just going nuts, right? It's a red eye. So I'm thinking I might try and sleep a little bit bit. Not gonna happen. So the lady falls asleep immediately. The dog just starts going nuts. The dog runs away. So I go after the dog on this red eye. I'm going up and down the aisle going after the dog. And now the stewardess is yelling at me, sir, get your dog under control now. I don't want to yell back at the stewardess, this isn't my dog. Because everybody's half asleep. So now I'm just the idiot on my fucking hands and knees crawling around trying to get this dog to come come to me.
- [74:11]
Adam Carolla
Me.
- [74:12]
Andrew Gruel
I take care of this lady's dog. And then she wakes up. Was he okay? I'm sitting there covered in sweat fur, been feeding this. I might as well be breastfeeding this dog. And I'm like, yeah, but he had a little bit of an incident. Then later on, the dog proceeds to go to the bathroom on my feet. I mean, I'm texting my wife this whole time. She's like, you need to. You need to say something. But that's the thing. I'm kind of weak. I wasn't gonna yell at the poor lady. What was I gonna do in that moment?
- [74:36]
Adam Carolla
Now, look, look. Once you're on the plane and the door's shut, you're just. You're long for the ride. Like, literally, it's at that point, it's like your first day in prison. Just look down. Don't join any gangs.
- [74:50]
Andrew Gruel
Stab someone.
- [74:51]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, just keep your nose clean. I get it. And they rely on that. That's all I'm saying. What I'm saying is there should be no circumstances where you can fly with your dog. And then people start getting into, I have a seizure alert dog. I don't know. You're gonna have to work it out. There's gonna be places you're gonna be without your dog, and you may have a seizure. So you're gonna have to figure this out. But also, and this is sad, but I. It's called a disability. You have something. The world does not need to bend and contort around you. You've lost this ability or that ability. You are so mentally deficient that you cannot fly without a pet. That's on you. That has nothing to do with me. You are so broken. And look, maybe you were ritualistically molested by your stepdad from age 2 to 17. And my heart aches for you.
- [76:03]
Andrew Gruel
I don't know what ritual molestation is. Is there a difference?
- [76:06]
Adam Carolla
A non stop cavalcade of molestation.
- [76:09]
Andrew Gruel
Okay, got it.
- [76:10]
Adam Carolla
Let's just say. And you're horribly, horribly scarred. Unfortunately, you're still gonna have to work that one out on the ground with your therapist and not with me and the dog. Now, I feel bad, but there's no dogs.
- [76:27]
Andrew Gruel
Or bring the therapist on.
- [76:28]
Adam Carolla
Bring your pet therapist on that plane. Yes, this was covered by the way Dawson might be able to find it. When I did my movie Road Hard, probably. What year is it now? 10 years ago or something. I had a whole scene of me flying with a woman and her dog. I don't know if we. I don't know if that's on somebody's computer or something somewhere. But this is a decade ago and I was already making fun of it back then. Now you own a restaurant. And I don't know what percentage of people are trying to bring their dogs in there, but it's gotta be a lot higher than it was 10 years ago, right?
- [77:10]
Andrew Gruel
Oh, it's over 30%. Easily over 30%. We have a patio, so we let people bring their dogs to the patio. You'd think that that would suffice, right?
- [77:18]
Adam Carolla
No.
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Jason Mayhem Miller
Nope.
- [77:19]
Andrew Gruel
My dog doesn't like sitting in the sun.
- [77:21]
Adam Carolla
Oh, really?
- [77:22]
Andrew Gruel
My dog wants to sit at D6.
- [77:25]
Adam Carolla
People show me these videos of dogs attacking other dogs, like, on the patio and stuff. And they go, what's wrong with these pit bulls? And I'm like, don't bring them to brunch. How about, I got a way to solve this problem. You don't bring your fucking dog. Wait, do we have this scene? Oh, well, it may have the whole movie, man. I don't know. Oh, well, you're gonna. You'll have to scrub through it. I'd say it's about. Oh, here it is. Hey, I think you're in my seat. Oh, am I? I kind of like the window. You cool with my staying here? What's the difference, right? Thanks very much, man. We're going to the same place. You like dogs? Yeah, I love dogs. In yards, on the ground, you know, that's normally where he likes to be. He doesn't like to be confined. This is Raffles. He's a service dog. What's the service he provides? He's an anti anxiety dog. He helps you. See how he's just calm? Yeah. You just want anyone to fly with your pet, right? No, he's. He's certified. Certified? He's a working. Give your doctor $50 and he certified him. You don't even know my dog. I mean, you barely even met. What about my anxiety? I have anxiety about flying with dogs. How about that? I get a service pelican. Hey, I want you to meet Gilligan, my service pelican. What about when the dog defecates? He's got to defecate at some point, right? What happens when you defecate, sir? I don't cheat. Yeah. Oh, looks like we have a cute.
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Andrew Gruel
Little furry traveler with us today.
- [79:06]
Adam Carolla
Hi.
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Andrew Gruel
Hi.
- [79:10]
Adam Carolla
So all chronicled in the movie Road.
- [79:13]
Andrew Gruel
By the way, the flight attendants do treat dogs better than children. Oh, like, well.
- [79:20]
Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah. Oh, much better.
- [79:21]
Andrew Gruel
I fly with my kids all the time.
- [79:22]
Adam Carolla
Much better.
- [79:22]
Andrew Gruel
They're, well, very well behaved. But they'll walk up and be like, just a reminder, sir, your kid's tray table cannot be down during takeoff. I go, it's not down. They go, we're just reminding you. And then they go an aisle back.
- [79:33]
Adam Carolla
Look at the Bulldog.
- [79:34]
Andrew Gruel
It's got the protruding anus.
- [79:36]
Adam Carolla
I know. I flew south. No, I flew Alaskan air once and I was going, I don't know, Oregon or something. And I sat at the bulkhead in the front and I had my backpack and I just set it at my feet on the bulkhead. And she's like, sir, you gotta put it up top, you know, And I always want my backpack cause I'm making notes and doing stuff. And she's like, you gotta put it up until we level off or whatever. You can't set it in front. And right next to me is a medium sized German shepherd just sitting right against the bulkhead, just like size of three backpacks, just laying there with a pulse. And I'm like, this is a safety issue. It's a safety issue.
- [80:20]
Andrew Gruel
Those bulkhead seats should be cheaper, by the way.
- [80:23]
Adam Carolla
I agree. You think the bulkhead, it's a fickle mistress. You think you're getting something, you go, I'm on the bulkhead. But you realize you can't put your feet, you can't extend the feet. You don't really realize how much real estate under the seat in front of you. You use non bulkhead.
- [80:43]
Andrew Gruel
Yep, you're right. How much? The out of the arm handle tray table sucks.
- [80:47]
Adam Carolla
And no screen.
- [80:50]
Andrew Gruel
But don't worry, download the app. You know, I want to look at it on a screen.
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Adam Carolla
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Mayhem Miller
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Adam Carolla
Wow. That's a leader in the clubhouse. Chef Gruel here. Mayhem is gonna do some news. Andrew Gruel's family cookbook is the name of the book. And you know something? I look down on my list. I got one more thing for you, Gruel. Cause this, you're a guy, you run a business. And the kitchen, it's all about efficiency. It's sort of flow and movement and what works, what doesn't work. And I'm that way too. I'm very like, let's. If you, if you go to the back of this warehouse, you'll see that this wall when it Hits the other wall is not a 90, it's dog eared, it's broken. Because I want the flow. I don't like a sharp corner. Come around the corner, you don't see it gets dented. When people are like vacuuming or whatever, I'll do a 90 just to get. Because I want the flow, man. And I'm at the, the Fantastic Sam's in Glendale, get my hair cut and this has happened to me a few times. At some point they get the little clippers out, but they don't have cordless ones. They plug in and they plug into the like little area where their drawer is and stuff. And the cord is like five feet long and it's plugged in and they bring the cord around. The cord smacks me in the face, you know, and then they bring the cord around the other side. It gets caught in my ear and they start pulling on it and then they pull the cord out and they bring it around again and it whacks me in the face again and it gets caught and I go, they have cordless clippers, right? And they go, the woman, she goes, yes, but I don't have the right fitting, I don't have the right 29 cent plastic thing that goes on the end. And they go, okay, but couldn't we just go to Home Depot and get a six foot extension cord? And then it would just sit on the, the cord would be on the ground instead of wrapped around my. Smacking me in the head when you're trying to do the back of my neck, he's like, ah, it's okay. And I'm like, I don't care, I don't work here. I'm fine. But for you, for you, that the cord that's pulled taut because it's like five feet away, plugged in the wall and I'm sitting back on the chair and it's smacking me in the head. You could stop going to Supercuts Fantastic Sam. But isn't there. It's so fixable. You know how fixable this is? And by the way, she's probably on year 14 of smacking people in the with this cord. And I'm like, I'm not a prude, I'm not an asshole. I'm just trying to help you get a little more flow in your business here.
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Andrew Gruel
When I go into restaurants for consulting jobs, they'll, you know, they'll say our labor costs are so high, et cetera, and we're not getting the food out in time. First thing I'll do is I'll sit and I'll watch during service and I'll count steps. And one of the 90% of the problems can be fixed because to put one dish out, somebody's taken 100 steps back and forth. And the first thing I do is move all the ingredients to the same place. Place 89 less steps. Cuz now they're all right there, right? That's how. I mean it's just. Oh, there's a container. Oh, I got to grab that. I got to get this. I got to put this in here. I got to do this. And they do it 100 times over. Simple. Go get the extension cord. That's my Sam's club. What is it?
- [87:49]
Unknown
Fantastic Sam.
- [87:50]
Adam Carolla
Fantastic Sam. Yeah, yeah, an Accord. First off, they're ubiquitous and they're $4. And you can go. Amazon will drop one off tomorrow morning. Let's just go get the sample the same way.
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Andrew Gruel
If you just move all the ingredients to one dish in the same place, then you don't have to reach over and take a thousand different steps.
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Unknown
Hey, but how about throwing a right hand with no hiccup in the middle? You know what I mean? This wins fights. Martial arts all about efficiency. I don't need the guy taking a step and then throwing right hand. And that quarter of a second is gone. And you get punched before you can hit him.
- [88:23]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I'm with you.
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Andrew Gruel
And actually I'll combine mine and yours because I would be able to solve a lot of problems with guests if you if they took one less step but also one forward to knock the guest out.
- [88:33]
Adam Carolla
Nice. There you go.
- [88:35]
Unknown
You always want to get them when they're coming in with a tray of food and they need it right there.
- [88:39]
Andrew Gruel
Yeah.
- [88:39]
Adam Carolla
The new greeter at the restaurant, Mayhem Miller.
- [88:42]
Unknown
Welcome to the restaurant.
- [88:43]
Andrew Gruel
Gah.
- [88:45]
Adam Carolla
Left folk, what do we got?
- [88:46]
Unknown
All right, first up in the news, we got the EPA chief Lee Zeldin to kill a car feature that everyone hates. You know the one, Ace.
- [88:55]
Adam Carolla
I knew it. I knew it when I heard the beginning of the story. It's like the engine kill.
- [88:59]
Unknown
Yeah, the engine kill stopped. They are taking that away. He says EPA approved it and everyone hates it, so we're fixing it.
- [89:09]
Adam Carolla
I researched this years ago cuz it bothered me. So the engine dying shut off at the intersection. It gives anxiety to any poor person over the age of 45. Cuz we had cars that died. You know what I mean? There's like ho ho ho, we got to keep it going. Bad starter, bump start, you know, pushing it. Dead battery I've been in a lot of, like, feathering that throttle at the stop. Like, we gotta keep it. You gotta keep the revs up. Otherwise if we stall, we're screwed. It ain't starting again. So when it dies, even in a modern car, I have a moment of old anxiety.
- [89:47]
Unknown
Quiet. Cold sweat.
- [89:48]
Adam Carolla
Yes.
- [89:49]
Unknown
Followed by resignation that I'm gonna have to push this thing off the road.
- [89:52]
Adam Carolla
But I did research it, and it said it saves a lot of gas. But it seemed counterintuitive because when you're idling, it's just dripping. Like, it's very slow usage of gas. When you're just idling it, you're not burning a lot of fuel. But evidently shutting off over the course of the life of the car adds up into X amount of fuel savings. So it basically falls under the heading of there's a whole bunch of stuff you could do to save fuel. But then how much of that is a hassle like you?
- [90:28]
Unknown
When I was really poor, I would turn a car off.
- [90:31]
Adam Carolla
You would?
- [90:31]
Unknown
Yes. So I had an arm.
- [90:33]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [90:34]
Unknown
I remember this as a kid, rolling up to thinking, man, I can't afford to sit here at this long red light and turning it off. So I was way ahead of the game.
- [90:41]
Adam Carolla
The guys who never shut their cars are cops. They'll leave that car running just sitting in a parking lot or by the side of the road. It's always on. Which, by the way, is a very good example of when it's not your gas. This is how you roll. When it's your gas, you shut the thing off or maintenance as well. I'm with you. I would like to get rid of the engine shut off. I'd like to get rid of the no seatbelt bong chime thing. That drives me nuts as well, actually. Here's what I want out of cars. You ready? I want the no engine shut off. Delete. Good. Get rid of that. I want the seatbelt chime. I want 30 seconds grace period when I start the car to put the seatbelt on before it starts annoying me. I just want it. I want to start the car, turn the heater on, put the defroster on, whatever, and then I'll put my seatbelt on and give me 30 seconds to put it on. I'm not going anywhere. I'm in my driveway. I'm not at high speeds. I'm not on the highway. I can't get anywhere in 30 seconds. It's dangerous. I just got in the car. It's been stopped overnight. And the thing that nobody Talks about. And it's been discussed. And now Dawson's gonna have to look it up a little bit. Cause there's versions of this, but I still don't think it's in full effect. If somebody said to me, I'm selling you a luxury car. And listen, everyone's got the seat warmers and the coolers and the lumbar support and. And then, you know, everyone's got all the bells and whistles and the presets and all that shit. That's all fine. Our car has a fan system that moves air and will turn the air conditioning on. And the next time you're in Van Nuys, parked at the Costco for four hours out on the blacktop in July, when you get back in that car with the black interior, it's going to be 70 degrees, not 114 degrees. It'll stay cool, cool, cool inside the car. And they were talking about, did Tesla have it?
- [92:46]
Unknown
Yep. Dog mode.
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Adam Carolla
None of them have. None of them will spin. The air will actually do air conditioning though. They'll vent it. I think. Now we're gonna have to check. Cause it's been 10 years. But here's what I'm saying. You can take a car, you can park it on blacktop, San Fernando Valley, middle of July, 114 degrees outside. And even if it's circulated and vented, it's still going to be in the high 90s or something. You can't cool it. You can try to diminish it a little, but I'm talking about cold air. I'm talking about firing up the air conditioning pump. If it's an electric car. Electric car has an electric air conditioning pump. It doesn't run off a crank crank like an internal combustion car does, because there is no crank.
- [93:36]
Unknown
Well, I've never used it, but I believe that Tesla has a dog mode where you run the air conditioning in there. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's a feature. I know that the remote start cars, that's why the cops are always running the engine. Because they're wearing all that equipment. Wearing a bulletproof and all that. But they need it chilly in there.
- [93:55]
Adam Carolla
But also I don't want to have to download the app and set myself a timer to remind myself to put the thing on or whatever. It's like, it's simple. When the car gets over 85 degrees, that shit kicks on. I don't want to program it. I don't want to do it with my phone. I don't want the App. If it's parked and locked and it gets over 85, I want it to kick on. That's all.
- [94:18]
Unknown
I'll tweet Elon about it.
- [94:20]
Adam Carolla
Tweet Elon.
- [94:21]
Unknown
All right, next up, mom is slammed for openly breastfeeding a child in a restaurant.
- [94:26]
Adam Carolla
Sheesh.
- [94:26]
Unknown
Cover up.
- [94:27]
Adam Carolla
People say you have this chef girl.
- [94:30]
Andrew Gruel
Yeah, I've seen this photo. My issue isn't with the breastfeeding in a restaurant. It's the fact that that kid's about to enter the third grade.
- [94:37]
Unknown
He's playing peewee football.
- [94:39]
Andrew Gruel
I know.
- [94:41]
Mayhem Miller
You know, I took my mom to the smokehouse for brunch on Sunday, Mother's Day, and there was a woman walking right around the buffet, and she was breastfeeding a child right in front of the omelette station.
- [94:56]
Adam Carolla
Nice.
- [94:56]
Unknown
Did you ask for a sip, Squirt for your coffee?
- [94:59]
Andrew Gruel
Was there a sneeze guard?
- [95:01]
Unknown
Was there a splash guard?
- [95:03]
Mayhem Miller
All of the. All of the dishes have a guard over them.
- [95:09]
Andrew Gruel
Okay.
- [95:09]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, Individual. Dawson's drinking a vodka on the rock. She's like, you want to make that a White Russian? All right, here's my back to the dogs. Back to society. I don't. Breastfeeding. Fine. I like people to be a little discreet, just in general. I like a little built in discretion now. Like, breastfeeding should never be legal, and talking on the phone shouldn't be legal. But you yelling loud into a speakerphone conversation at the table next to me, I don't want to hear that. Do you know what I'm saying?
- [95:48]
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah.
- [95:48]
Adam Carolla
So this will fall under the heading of decorum, you know, just a little. Let's not burden other people with you.
- [95:58]
Andrew Gruel
Just a blanket.
- [95:59]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, my wife did it all the.
- [96:00]
Andrew Gruel
Time with all four. Blanket. A nice cuddle. You wouldn't know.
- [96:03]
Adam Carolla
People do. People do a lot of, like, why should I have to. I don't know. Why do they put doors on bathroom stalls? I don't know. Yeah. You could shit without the door. And. And, okay. We all do it and it's natural. And so why should I feel shame or what? I don't know. We just like it that way, and that's the way we did it. You know what I'm saying? So it's just a little. And someone who gets really uptight about it. I'm not gonna fight for that person either. I'm just saying you should try to go through your life affecting other people the least amount possible in every situation. And I include aggressive nose piercings with that, which is if I gotta see another 26 year old bitch with a big hoop hanging out of the frenulum. I just stare at it and go, God, was that hard? Is that painful?
- [96:56]
Andrew Gruel
The hoops don't bother me. It's the sharp things.
- [96:58]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, the sharp things. And does that ever get hooked or does that get caught on something or what if. And now, now I'm thinking about you. Yeah, that's my point. I don't want to think about, in.
- [97:10]
Unknown
My experience, just pubes.
- [97:12]
Adam Carolla
Just pubes. It's the only thing that gets caught on.
- [97:16]
Andrew Gruel
70S of you.
- [97:17]
Adam Carolla
So I don't know why it's a big. She had an ample bosom, which I think is offensive.
- [97:25]
Unknown
It was like pornographic a bit, especially with the old kid there sucking that down.
- [97:30]
Andrew Gruel
But let me tell you why it's offensive. Because somebody who posted this was clearly in her party, right? All of this stuff is done for outrage. Like no, I guarantee you people, most of the people probably at that event or whatever it was the buffet, they had decorum and they could have cared less, couldn't have cared less and they didn't want to post about it. But somebody within you, because the person sitting across from them, well, there needs.
- [97:54]
Adam Carolla
To be a little built in. Sort of like everyone has. Should have a built in time, right? Which is like, you know when there's a really long line at the rental car checkout and somebody's just up there and it's like, Jesus Christ, it's been 15 minutes, you're talking and then at some point they give them the keys and the paperwork and they take like two steps back and then they turn around and they walk back and they go, is there a Color Me Mine anywhere in town? And then the person gets the thing out. Well, let's see. Okay, here we're at the airport. You're like, bitch, move it on. Move it the fuck on. There's 26 people standing here. Really? Really. I was doing a premium check in or whatever and I was flying back from Florida and there was like a family there. It was like the woman and the daughter and they're just standing, just. There's like two windows, a line of 14 people. And the one woman just never moved. She just never moved because she was waiting for her husband to come with the luggage. And I was like, this is the luggage. Check in line. If you don't have the luggage, bitch, just step out, step out. And by the way, the person behind the counter needs to go, excuse me. Stand right there. When your husband shows up with the luggage, if he ever does, when he does, then we can come back and deal with. But for now, we have a bunch of people in line. Like, you need to have the internal clock. It's just like a little clock, you know, used to be at the atm, and you're spending too much time there. They got people behind you. There's people. They're other human beings.
- [99:41]
Andrew Gruel
I do it at the urinal. I'll even cut off midstream because I'm like, my time's gone, I feel bad.
- [99:50]
Unknown
Thing off.
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Adam Carolla
So you have to have a little internal clock. And then you also have a kind of a situational awareness. Like, I'm talking too loud or I'm cutting in front of people, or, look, I'm breastfeeding. But maybe Dawson and his mom don't want to wait in the line at the omelet bar with me feeding. Like, also, there's always an easy fix, which is I'll just sit here and breastfeed my child. And then when I'm done, I'll get up and I'll get in the buffet.
- [100:19]
Mayhem Miller
It was interesting, though, that my instinct was just look away and move on. Put it behind. I've never seen that before.
- [100:28]
Adam Carolla
No. And it's part of the. Never seen a dog on a plane prior to 15 years ago. There's a whole bunch of shit we've never seen. People punching cops and throwing water bottles at cops, but now we do because it's just here. It's a new world. The order, which is not progress. In my word.
- [100:48]
Mayhem Miller
When I say breastfeeding, I mean her breast was out.
- [100:50]
Adam Carolla
Really?
- [100:51]
Mayhem Miller
The baby was. Yeah. There was no. There was no cover.
- [100:54]
Unknown
I think that's. In a way, though. I think that's the new way.
- [100:56]
Adam Carolla
I gotta say this too. As stated, when I was doing my shows in Florida and the super drunk chick sitting in the very front row up against the stage was talking and yapping and loud and causing a disruption and everything. And, you know, I said to her husband from the stage, I went, hey, man, you gotta police this shit. He's like, I'm not. It's not my job. And I go, it is your job. Your wife's drunk, she's causing a commotion. I'm not doing. People have to police.
- [101:26]
Andrew Gruel
Yeah.
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Adam Carolla
When you go out to dinner or you go out to the buffet with your wife and she's breastfeeding. First argument. My first thing is, leave the fucking kid at home with the dog. The dog will take care of the kid, the kid will take care of the dog. Get a sitter, whatever. But. All right. We're bringing the kid. Okay. When the wife pulls the titty out and then gets out the table and starts walking, you, as the husband, need to, like, grab her shoulder and go, hey, why don't we just. Let's just do this here.
- [101:51]
Andrew Gruel
Yep.
- [101:52]
Adam Carolla
And then I'll tell you what. What do you want from the buffet? I'll get it for you. Just hang out here. You know what I mean? Like, there needs to be some intercouple policing going on, which we've done away with as well.
- [102:06]
Andrew Gruel
Marriage is just a constant board meeting. So. You're right. You know, it's like, you know what? They don't need pepperoni over there at the buffet. Leave the baloney over here.
- [102:14]
Adam Carolla
That's right. That's right.
- [102:16]
Unknown
All right, next up, Pete Rose is reinstated to the Baseball hall of Fame or eligible. And it's got fans in an uproar.
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Adam Carolla
I don't get. I don't really get what one has to do with the other in terms of. It's not a morality tale. It's just whatever you did on the baseball diamond. And I mean, I'll keep going with it. I mean, O.J. giving his Heisman back or whatever, I don't really like that world. My feeling is, is in this snapshot in time, in 1969, OJ was the best running back or the best college football player. Thus, he was presented a trophy. Yeah, okay. That's what would happen in 1969, in 1994, TR to cut his ex wife's head off. But it still doesn't nullify. I still got game film of him running all over Stanford, like, so just leave it. And then we will think of OJ as the guy who won the Heisman Trophy and cut his wife's head off. Because I got enough room. Do you know what I'm saying? I got enough room for that. And whatever you did outside of the diamond, that's not to do. We're trying to tally hits. Baseball's one big statistical machine, Right? Like the Big Red machine. They want hits, they want at bats, they want everything. On base percentage. Once those numbers become surplus to requirement for you getting into the hall of Fame, then you're in. I don't really care what you did outside of that. Cause it's called the Baseball hall of Fame, not the Good dude hall of Fame. Yeah, hold on, let me sniff.
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Andrew Gruel
This is emblematic of everything, though. This is that we're taking into consideration all the other interpersonal elements and all the soft stuff in order to judge what somebody's doing specifically within that job. Right. Like, oh, well, you know, that person created the best buildings in the world. But did you know what he said on.
- [104:19]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Yes. Yeah, no, I'm with you 100%. Henry Ford was anti Semitic. And then also Henry Ford built B29 bombers and pounded Europe and the Nazis into submission. So, fine, I got room. I did both. Okay, we have Norm MacDonald's OJ ESPY joke. Okay, yeah, I remember that one. I do remember that one, but I can't remember it. But I love Norm. And there's Charles Woodson. How about that? What a season he had great Manny. He became the first defensive player to win the Heisman Trophy. And congratulations, Charles, that is something that no one can ever take away from you unless you kill your wife and a waiter, in which case they don't like it. What? No, he didn't. It's funny. Yeah. So. So I've always been. Look, and then. Okay, there's two things I don't abide by. One is whatever you do off the field, that's whatever you did off the field. You were retired. We're basing this on your playing days. So that's it. He goes into the hall of Fame for me. Then the other thing they'll do to everybody is they'll go, well, it wasn't so much that he gambled, but he lied. Yeah, well, that's what people do when you accuse them of shit that are going to keep them out of the hall of Fame. Yeah, everyone lies. They always do this in criminal whatever. Like, the real problem is him lying about it. Yeah, everyone lied. Wasn't that you cheated. It was that you lied. Oh, really? Because that's what everyone who cheats does. And I do think it's more about the cheating, honey. But either way, he's dead. Been gone for not even a year. Yeah, I'm fine with him. I don't get. I don't need to morally defend him. He does the most hits in baseball. So. So also, if you're going to have a Hall of Fame and you don't have the guy got the most hits in your sport in the hall of Fame, then what kind of hall of Fame is this? Yeah, this is my. If you're going to do the Rock and Roll hall of Fame and you got Janet Jackson in it, then is this a Rock and Roll hall of Fame? Is this Rock and Roll hall of Fame? I would argue it's not.
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Unknown
Now, as I understand he was never accused of throwing a game.
- [106:49]
Adam Carolla
Or.
- [106:50]
Unknown
Or, you know, was he well, that.
- [106:53]
Adam Carolla
What they do all the time is they go. Then at some point ago, well, I gambled on baseball, but I didn't gamble on the Reds or Phillies or whatever team he was managing, you know, and my thing is like, yeah, what? You should be able to gamble on baseball or football or anything you want. You shouldn't be allowed to throw a game. Yeah, and I'm trying to think, like, I don't know, what do you do? Like, do you just put. Let a pitcher stay in longer than they should or have some right handed pitcher against a left handed lineup or something? I mean, I bet you could shave tents, but you're not really going to prevent your guys from hitting home runs. I mean, how much, how much jurisdiction do you have over a baseball game? Like you're not telling your pitcher to throw balls you can shave. Maybe. I mean, and maybe that's all it takes. I mean, if your team explodes with offense, could just have three guys in a row hit dingers or whatever happens when they score 13 runs. You don't have any control over that. It'd be weird if you sat down a guy who had a hot bat who wasn't injured. That would. People would take notice of that, I'm guessing. I don't know, Dawson. Look, look it up. Like, what is that? Gambling in general? Don't care? Gambling on baseball don't care. Nobody should care. It's only if you attempted to throw a game.
- [108:26]
Unknown
Well, let me tell you, in the ufc, they sat us down and told us, do not bet on fighting. Do not go have a walk and a talk with you.
- [108:34]
Adam Carolla
Really?
- [108:34]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [108:35]
Adam Carolla
They don't like the optics of it?
- [108:37]
Unknown
I guess not.
- [108:38]
Jason Mayhem Miller
No.
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Andrew Gruel
Your own fight or other people's fights?
- [108:40]
Adam Carolla
Yes, yes, yes.
- [108:42]
Unknown
Other people in general or both? They were like. Yeah, because, you know, when you're an insider in thing, you know what I mean? You know some stuff, so.
- [108:50]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, but here's the problem with the people that know some stuff. They can't pick stocks, they can't pick super bowl winners, and they can't pick UFC fights either. Nobody. There's a one. I don't know why a field of expertise doesn't help you. Every year the super bowl comes around, all the guys who know everything about football prognosticate and they give their pick. And half of them are wrong every single time, which is weird. I don't want to live in that world. But they do it at the track too. Like nobody. I mean, I guess it's the beauty of sports, right? I feel like you should Be able to. You should be able to bet on yourself in the ufc.
- [109:30]
Unknown
Should be. Right.
- [109:31]
Adam Carolla
Now, you can't bet on your opponent because you could take a dive, of course, but betting on yourself in most states with legalized sports betting, wagering by an athlete directly or through a third party in any MMA match put on by promoter limit of an affiliate is illegal and may result in criminal sanction. Again, Pete Rose can bet on other teams, but he shouldn't be able to bet on his team because he could affect that. And you should be able to bet on yourself to win, but not to lose.
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Mayhem Miller
Here's the rule directly from Major League Baseball. Any player, umpire, or club or league official or employee who shall bet any sum whatsoever upon any baseball game in connection with which the better has no duty to perform shall be declared ineligible for one year. Isn't that what Pete Rose did?
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Adam Carolla
Yeah. I mean, the real question is, is, did he bet on his team when he was managing his team? I don't know.
- [110:35]
Mayhem Miller
I don't think so.
- [110:36]
Adam Carolla
Well, you can try to look it up. I don't know. But here's the other thing, but let me explain what's really going on. Betting. When he was eliminated or made ineligible for the baseball, he has only admitted to betting on his own team. Team.
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Mayhem Miller
Now, the second rule is any to win.
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Adam Carolla
Oh, okay. All right. That. You got to add that word.
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Mayhem Miller
Now, if you're caught. If you're caught betting on a game that you have a duty to perform in, you're permanently ineligible. So Major League Baseball must have decided that. That they believe Pete Rose.
- [111:17]
Adam Carolla
I got it. Right. Well, either way, I'll. I'll explain what the answer is. Sure is. Betting on Pete Rose. Betting on his team to win. I don't care about his team trying to win, and he's doing the best job he can. Mayhem Miller. Betting on himself to win. He's betting himself to win. You can't take a dive when you're betting on yourself. So I don't care about that mathematically, but he.