President Trump vs. Mayor Bass + Sniper’s Chad Michael Collins

Summary

Podcast Summary: Adam Carolla Show – "President Trump vs. Mayor Bass + Sniper’s Chad Michael Collins"

Episode Information

• Title: President Trump vs. Mayor Bass + Sniper’s Chad Michael Collins
• Host: Adam Carolla
• Guests: Chad Michael Collins, Kelsey Grammer
• Release Date: January 28, 2025

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1. Political Commentary: Trump’s Developmentist Approach vs. Mayor Bass’s Bureaucratic Caution

Adam Carolla opens the episode by drawing parallels between former President Donald Trump and career politicians like Mayor Karen Bass. Using a personal anecdote about renovating his home, Carolla illustrates the frustration with bureaucratic delays compared to Trump's reputation for swift decision-making.

• Anecdote on Construction Delays:

  • [01:56] Adam Carolla: "When you build, your mantra is always like, hurry, hurry, hurry. Your mind is always hurry."
  • [04:09] He contrasts this with political processes, emphasizing how political figures like Mayor Bass prioritize safety and regulation, which he argues slows down progress.

• Metaphor of Swinging Mirror Doors Post-Surgery:

  • [06:09] Adam Carolla: "I think I'll make it in. I'm just driving a car in. I get out of the car and I'll sit down and I'll talk."
  • This story serves as a metaphor for Trump's expedited approach versus the cautious stance of politicians like Bass, who prioritize safety over speed.

Key Points:

• Trump as a Developer: Emphasizes Trump's background in commercial development, highlighting his preference for rapid action.
• Bureaucratic Red Tape: Criticizes career politicians for endless discussions without tangible outcomes, likening them to ineffective systems that prevent progress.
• Safety vs. Efficiency: Argues that the political emphasis on safety and regulation hampers economic and infrastructural advancements.

2. Guest Interview: Chad Michael Collins on His Acting Journey and the "Sniper" Franchise

Chad Michael Collins, known for his role in the "Sniper" series and voice work in video games like Modern Warfare 3, joins Adam Carolla to discuss his transition from a publicist to an actor.

• Transition from Publicist to Actor:

  • [31:15] Chad Michael Collins: "I don’t envy the publicist at that level because holy hell, what a shit show."
  • Describes his path from journalism to working with publicists, eventually venturing into acting through encouragement from industry contacts.

• Experience with the "Sniper" Franchise:

  • [34:12] Chad Michael Collins: "I've been a part of the eighth, ninth movie going back to 2010."
  • Discusses the longevity and growth of the "Sniper" series, highlighting its consistent development and his recurring role.

• Voice Acting and Video Games:

  • [36:13] Chad Michael Collins: "Modern Warfare 2019, I got to play one of the main protagonists, a character named Alex Keller."
  • Shares his enthusiasm for voice acting in popular franchises, emphasizing his love for gaming and how it complemented his acting career.

• Discipline from Sports Background:

  • [35:26] Chad Michael Collins: "I grew up in upstate New York... played football, basketball, baseball."
  • Draws connections between his disciplined sports background and his approach to acting, stressing the importance of perseverance and resilience.

Key Points:

• Acting as a Second Career: Explores how Collins leveraged his experience in publicity to break into acting, with a focus on action roles.
• International Filming Experiences: Highlights his work in diverse locations like Cape Town, Bulgaria, and Colombia, underscoring the global nature of film production.
• Discipline and Resilience: Attributes his success in acting to the discipline and mental toughness developed through years of organized sports.

3. News Highlights and Commentary

Jason Mayhem Miller presents various news segments, with Adam Carolla providing his humorous and often critical commentary.

A. Trump Ends Dr. Anthony Fauci’s Security Detail

• News Segment:

  • [59:57] Jason Mayhem Miller: "President Donald Trump ended the federal security detail for Anthony Fauci..."

• Adam’s Commentary:

  • [60:19] Adam Carolla: "Trump doesn’t give a fuck about this guy that tried to fuck him up..."
  • [62:22] He vehemently criticizes Dr. Fauci, alleging corruption and incompetence, asserting that Fauci undermined Trump and mishandled the COVID-19 pandemic.
  • [63:06] Adam Carolla: "He lies, and he was always compromised..."

Notable Quote:

• [62:22] Adam Carolla: "So Trump doesn’t give a fuck about this guy that tried to fuck him up in essentially the last election."

B. Jewel Apologizes for Performing at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s Inauguration Event

• News Segment:

  • [66:13] Jason Mayhem Miller: "Jewel apologizes for disappointing fans by performing at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s inauguration event..."

• Adam’s Commentary:

  • [67:05] Adam Carolla: "She made my life... she makes her social currency."

Key Points:

• Crossover of Celebrities in Politics: Highlights how artists like Jewel navigate political affiliations and public expectations, often leading to public apologies and backlash.

C. Billy Ray Cyrus’s Son Claims His Father is Threatening Legal Action

• News Segment:

  • [73:59] Jason Mayhem Miller: "Billy Ray Cyrus son claims his dad is threatening legal action after an open letter asking him to get help."

• Adam’s Commentary:

  • [77:54] Adam Carolla: "Is anyone ever wrong when they say, look, this guy's in bad shape. He's abusing drugs."

Notable Quote:

• [77:54] Adam Carolla: "Is anyone ever wrong when they say, look, this guy's in bad shape. He's abusing drugs?"

D. Pee Wee Herman’s Posthumous Coming Out in a Documentary

• News Segment:

  • [81:00] Jason Mayhem Miller: "Pee Wee Herman star Paul Reubens comes out as gay in a documentary after his death."

• Adam’s Commentary:

  • [82:11] Adam Carolla: "He did? It was part of my childhood. He was like the funny host..."
  • [84:23] Adam Carolla: "All right, so Pee Wee Herman was spanking his monkey. I was like, Oh, okay."

Key Points:

• Posthumous Revelations: Discusses the implications of celebrities revealing personal aspects of their lives after death, blending humor with reflections on public personas.

Notable Quote:

• [82:11] Adam Carolla: "He did? It was part of my childhood... Pee Wee was spanking his monkey."

4. Symbolism vs. Practicality in Community Safety

Adam Carolla critiques the emphasis on symbolic gestures, such as flying the Progress Pride flag, over concrete safety measures in communities.

• Discussion on Flag Symbolism:

  • [68:37] Adam Carolla: "Symbolism vs. practical safety measures... 'This is a hate free zone' doesn't prevent hate crimes."

• Criticism of Public Policy:

  • [73:12] Adam Carolla: "You can either dedicate your time to some public safety thing that actually exists, or make up shit about marginalized communities."

Key Points:

• Symbolic Actions Ineffective: Argues that symbolic gestures like flag displays do not address real safety issues, drawing a contrast with practical measures like metal detectors.
• Time Allocation: Criticizes how attention is diverted towards symbolic politics at the expense of addressing tangible community problems.

5. Closing Remarks and Promotions

The episode concludes with promotions for upcoming live podcast events, local shows, and advertisements, which are skipped as per user instructions.

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Conclusion

In this episode of The Adam Carolla Show, Adam delves into the tension between swift action and bureaucratic caution in political and developmental contexts, using personal stories to underscore his points. The engaging interview with Chad Michael Collins offers insights into the intersection of sports discipline and acting, highlighting the challenges and rewards of transitioning careers. The news segments, infused with Adam's signature humor and candor, provide a critical take on current events, from political figures like Dr. Fauci to cultural icons like Pee Wee Herman. Throughout the episode, Carolla maintains a consistent theme of advocating for action over endless deliberation, blending personal anecdotes with broader societal critiques.

Notable Quotes:

• [01:56] Adam Carolla: "When you build, your mantra is always like, hurry, hurry, hurry. Your mind is always hurry."
• [06:09] Adam Carolla: "I'm going to the house. I'm gonna swing those doors. She goes, are you fucking crazy?"
• [62:22] Adam Carolla: "So Trump doesn’t give a fuck about this guy that tried to fuck him up in essentially the last election."
• [82:11] Adam Carolla: "He did? It was part of my childhood... Pee Wee was spanking his monkey."
• [73:12] Adam Carolla: "You can either dedicate your time to some public safety thing that actually exists, or make up shit about marginalized communities."

This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions of the episode, providing a clear overview for those who have not listened to the podcast.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, in this episode, Mayhem's doing news. I'm giving commentary. Actor Chad Michael Collins from the sniper series is on. Turns out to be a pretty good dude. And we'll do all that right after this.

[Dawson]

From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, actors Chad Michael Collins and Kelsey Grammer. Plus the news and trending topics with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now a man who thought Deep Seek was a porn website, Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, get it on. Got to get it on. The choice with the government mandates, you get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for sharing with a friend. Mayhem Miller's in st Studio.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Happy to be here.

[Adam Carolla]

Got stuff to talk about for sure. All right, let's see. I got a clip to play for you also. I just want you guys to understand sort of mindset and wiring that. So Trump blew into town and he was sat down at a big sort of open roundtable forum. We had the mayor and we had city people there and Trump was like, hurry, let's go, here we go. And I realized that it's so a lot of what we're talking about, like, I think a lot of people think, like things are political, it's right versus left or something like that. But Trump is a developer, big commercial developer. And when you build, your mantra is always like, hurry, hurry, hurry. Like your mind is always hurry. You know, part of the deal, the.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Whole story was that he hurry up and got the whole, I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, so everything is, you know, you take some house that's been demolished in the Palisades, so you gotta clear the lot before you get started. Right. So his thing is like, hurry, like clear the lot. And the end result, the last thing you do with a house, let's say you rebuild a house, you put up the curtains, Right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, I thought it. Shingles.

[Adam Carolla]

Eh, you could shingle, you could shingles outside the house, but the last thing you're gonna do is put the curtains.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm reading you wallpaper, whatever.

[Adam Carolla]

The curtains will be it. All right, so we start with, there's a bunch of lots with a bunch of burnt out Teslas on them and they're sitting there. That's what we have now. At some point we're putting curtains up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

How fast can we get from the burnt out lot to the curtains?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Burn into curtains.

[Adam Carolla]

And their thing is slow it down, play it safe. Trump is like, go, go, go. And I remember doing projects where I would become obsessed with like, where's the thing? What's going on? What's next? And so when you go, you know, well, we gotta clear the lot, then we gotta grade the lot. Then we gotta do the soils report. Then we gotta drill the caissons and put the dig the grade beams. Then we got to put the rebar cages in. Then the concrete guy comes in and we do the foundation and the slab and we pour that. And so you go, when are we going to start framing? And the answer is when they're done with the foundation, then we'll start framing. And you go, what's going on with the foundation? Get going. And then they'll go, well, there's been a delay with the foundation. Well, the reason you want the foundation done is because you can't start the framing until the foundations done. And then once you start the framing, you can't close the house. Wrap the house with the Tyvek stuff. That weird paper that goes around it. Plastic goes around. Can't get the drywaller in until the house is closed and sealed and wrapped with the stucco. So we got to get the stucco guys in and we got to get the windows in place before we do the drywall. So it's just everything's before prerequisite.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

What's next? Before? What's next? And so the people that build are in a crazy hurry all the time now. What they're going up against is career politicians who are on basically island time. Slow it down. Never built the thing. Slow your roll. And I remember I was building this house up in above lake Hollywood, and it was a big renovation and I was just like, go, go. Can you guys. I'd say these guys, my guys. You want to work weekends, you want to make cash, you show up on weekends, I'll meet you here. You know, I was so nuts that I ordered these closet doors, but they weren't closet doors. They were mirrored closet doors, but they weren't mirrored closet doors. They were literally mirrors in big dec. Decorative frames. And I was gonna swing them like closet doors. And I came up with this idea and I loved it. Cause most. This house from 1929, most closet doors are aluminum framed. Mirrored closet, bad track. Aluminum track, you know, or bi. Folding 20.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Some of these had that.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, it was just. No, they didn't have it. The 60s, yeah, 60s, 70s, all basically sliding mirrored closet doors are just shitty aluminum track and shitty aluminum frame. But I wanted a beautiful. Anyway, the point is this. I ordered these things and weeks went by and I kept going, when are they coming in? I want to swing those doors I want to swing those doors. And the day I was going in to get hernia surgery, I got a notification that the doors, the mirrors had arrived.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You shoved your guts back up your nuts and ran to the pick em.

[Adam Carolla]

Up, shoved the guts in the nuts, picked up the router and the template, bro. I remember like. And they delivered the doors to the house.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I went into the hospital, Huntington Memorial in Pasadena to get surgery kind of late afternoon, like 4 or 5 in the evening. And Dr. Drew had had the same surgery a few years earlier. And I had my hernia surgery for a Friday afternoon. And I remember saying to Drew, I'll see you Sunday night at work. Because that's what we did.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I thought you were going to say a kettlebell practice.

[Adam Carolla]

I said, I'll see you Sunday, 10 o'clock. And he goes, no, you won't. And I said, why not? And he goes, you're getting hernia surgery. I'll on Friday. And I said, yeah, but I think I'll make it in. I'm just driving a car in. I get out of the car and I'll sit down and I'll talk. He said, you're not gonna be able to get out of bed. And I said, I think I'll be fine. And he goes, you're not getting out of bed. And he said, I had the same surgery. I was in bed for two weeks. You're not getting out of bed the next day. I said, well, you're kind of a pussy and I'm not. So I am gonna be here Sunday night. Although I have no idea because I've never had this surgery and we're having the same surgery and he's a doctor and he told me I would not get out of bed for at least a week. So he's ruling out Sunday night. But I find out these two doors I've been waiting on, these mirrors have come in after weeks.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The will to live.

[Adam Carolla]

And I'm so pumped. I'm pumped and I'm like, I want to swing those things so badly. And I get my surgery and I get out fine, go home, get home about 7:00, whatever, 8:00 at night and. Cause I'm on medication, I was put under and everything. I go to bed at like nine. Now normally I did love line, I'd go to bed at 1:30, 2 in the evening, wee hours. I go to bed at 9, go to bed at 9, wake up 5:30 in the morning, I just wake up and I like, I feel good and I just sit up in bed. And I go, I think I feel pretty good. And I stand up on my feet, and I start thinking about those mirrors and how they're just sitting there, and I need to swing them now. They're heavy. They're heavy mirrored doors.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Substantial.

[Adam Carolla]

And I got to swing them on hinges. And I stood up, and it was about 12 hours after my surgery, and I announced, I feel good. And my girlfriend, like, woke up. She was like, what the fuck? What are you doing? And I go, I'm going to the house. I'm gonna swing those doors. She goes, are you fucking crazy? And I go, I don't know. I feel good. She goes, you're not gonna. You're not supposed. You know.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Still smacked out on Norcos.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And I just said, look, if I don't feel good, I'll come home. But I feel good now. But I realized I was. So hurry up and go. I wanted to move those mirrors. And I know what that feeling is now. So that's Trump. Trump showing up. We'll play the clip with Karen Bass, who's our mayor, and Trump's basically going, let's go, let's go, let's go. And Karen Bass represents the career politician who's never done anything. So she's like, slow it down. Safety. Now, she does some, yeah, but she's not gonna do any of this stuff. But we'll listen to the clip. So if you're telling us now. Faster.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Is it six months?

[Adam Carolla]

Is it. I mean, all of our lives, rents, all this stuff is weighing on this. Six months. Yeah. No good. And the number one thing that we are going to do immediately, and you will see this happen, is to clear out the debris. And, you know, we're concerned right now over the weekend because of the potential rain, but we are going to move as fast as we can. But we want you to be safe. You have emergency powers safe. Okay? This is what they use. We all just got fucked by Covid because they wanted us to be safe. Now, remember, they want what you want. They want your kid to be educated. They want you to return to work. They want the economy to thrive. But safe. We got to do it safely. Well, their idea of safety is shutting down schools for a year and a half. That's their version of safety. That's not my fucking idea of safety. Their idea of safety is closing down outdoor dining. But safe. But safe. Safe is what they hide behind when they start ripping away all of your rights and your sovereignty. It's all safety. They can't say it's cuz we're tyrannical and we're power hungry. Safety.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm trying to figure out what benefit that you get is it that everybody gets paid all the way down to inspector and it comes.

[Adam Carolla]

Her metronome has molasses spilled on it and he's like, tick, tick, tick, tick, let's go, let's go. So one guy in the audience, like six months. By the way, they could tie. Here's all they need to do that. In the fire, there were toxic materials that burned. By the way, there's toxic materials in L. A, you can't pump gas without a long sticker about being pregnant and pumping gas. Everything in L. A has a sticker on it with everything's toxic.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

You can't do anything. Everything has a warning on it. So that's their whole thing. Safety. So whatever was in that fire is toxic. So you can't just roll in and start mopping up on your own. You need certified hazmat remediation teams that are bonded, they need to pull permits, they need to be cleared with the city. That's where they're heading.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Respirator.

[Adam Carolla]

That's where they're headed. All right. But Trump's like, let's go. Now what she's gotta do is thread the needle between. Yeah, yeah, no, we want you to all do it fast, but not really. We're gonna hit you with a bunch of shit. But soon as this guy. Fucking soon as Trump gets on fucking Air Force One and leaves, that's when we're gonna kick into action. Right now we're gonna sort of say what people want to hear, but there's more. Here we go, sir. Because of the potential rain, but we are going to move as fast as we can. But we want you to be safe. You have emergency powers just like I do, and I'm exercising my emergency powers. You have to exercise them also. I did exercise them because I look, I mean, you have a very powerful emergency power and you can do everything within 24 hours.

[Dawson]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And if individuals want to clear out their property, they can. No, they can't. No way. They won't let you.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I don't think that's correct.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. But you know that you will be able to go back soon, right? We think within a week. That's a long time. A week. I'll be honest to me, everyone standing in front of their house, they want to go to work and they're not allowed to do it. And the most important week is a long people to be safe. They're safe. They're safe.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You know what?

[Adam Carolla]

They're not safe. They're not safe now. All right? The most important thing is that people be safe. Which means the most important thing is we get to do whatever the fuck we want to do. And we'll tell you what you can do. Because the most important thing is safety. No, the most important thing is not safety. But certainly not as you define it. You have different versions of safety. I race vintage race cars. You wouldn't do that yourself. That's not safe enough for you, but it's safe enough for me. And I'm an American and I get to decide what's safe for me. That's the game. So no, none of this is safe enough for you. None of. None of any of this. Opening UP schools to 13 and 14 year olds who weren't affected by Covid is not safe enough for you. Bitch. It's safe enough for me as a parent and it's safe enough for my kids. Cuz Covid doesn't affect them. But it's not safe enough for you. And opening up beaches and letting people paddle board in the bay is not safe enough for your pussy ass. It's safe enough for me. And I'm a citizen and I pay taxes, but you're gonna tell me when it's too dangerous. But according to you, everything is too dangerous. And that's the fucking problem.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So if states had mascots, she'd be.

[Adam Carolla]

The nanny, she'd be the nanny, the mascot. She'd be dressed like Mrs. Doubtfire.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I was thinking, answer my.

[Adam Carolla]

I'd say Mrs. Doubtfire with a helmet on because of safety. And then I kind of realized there's a temperament, there is a difference. And the difference is just who she is. She's a career bureaucrat who doesn't wanna do anything. And Trump's a commercial developer who now happens to be the president. But the commercial developers, like people wanna get on the property, they wanna start clearing it and you should get outta the way and let them do it. And she's like, yeah, yeah, no, no. Safety, but safety. But safety. She doesn't wanna go anywhere. And I was just thinking about this. I got the microcosm version of this, which is my mom was basically the Karen Bass mindset and I was the Donald Trump mindset.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Get it going.

[Adam Carolla]

And I've told you guys this story before, but you have to think about it through the mind of the sort of career bureaucrat who just wants to. They want to have a group and the group's going to study the effects. And nothing's ever going to happen, right? Just one big, long discussion. Everything's a discussion. Nothing ever happens. Like, Rick Caruso is a developer and he's like, let's go, let's get it going. Let's crank it up. And they're like, hold on, hold on. We need to get a panel together to figure out what the environmental impact is of this. Okay, we'll never get to it then.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And you're like, put a condom on that backhoe and let's get to work.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. My mom, years and years ago, lived in a decrepit old house that was 100 years old. And they got the driveway redone. Sorry. The driveway was asphalt and it was from the 50s and was completely gator backed, bleached out and destroyed. And it looked like shit. And at some point, I became rich and successful. And also I had a background in building. So I went to my mom's house one day for dinner or something, and I said, mom, your driveway looks like hell. You deserve a new driveway. And there are companies that just come in and blow out the old driveway and form it up and pour. The new driveway takes two days, and that's all they do is driveways. And I will pay for that driveway. Now what I want you to do is get three bids, and we'll throw out the low bid and we'll throw out the high bid, and then I will pay for the middle bid and you will get a new driveway. And she said, thanks. And I said, okay. And then about three months later, I came back, had a course park in her old shitty driveway. And I said, what's going on with the driveway, mom? And she said, I haven't had a chance to get around to checking on the whatever. And I said, I don't get it. You don't have to do anything. Just get three bids, you don't work, get the guys to come over, give you a bid for the driveway, and I'll pay for the middle one. Okay? Came back three months after that, same driveway, fucked up as ever. And I said, mom, what's going on? I don't get it. And she said, I haven't had a chance. I said, mom, it's not going to take any time. Just get the bids, get the guy going. I'll pay the middle bid. You'll get a new driveway. And she said, yeah, all right, well, when I have time to blah, blah, blah, my mom, nobody had more time than my mom. Three months after that, I come back one more Time, Nothing. I go, mom, what's going on with the driveway? She goes, I don't. And I go, mom, it's the easiest thing in the world. She goes, I don't like your tone. I feel like you're judging me. And I said, you know what? I don't care. I'm just saying, I'll give you a new driveway. And she's like, it's more complicated. And then at some point we got into an argument and I just said, all right, fuck it, you get no driveway then. And she said, good. And I left. Now here's the whole point. Did my mom even want a driveway? The answer is not really. You know what I mean? What does Karen Bass want? Do you think she wants you to have your house rebuilt in a timely fashion in the Palisades or Malibu? What does she want? What does the city council want? What are these perpetual yarn spinning yentas even want? I know what Trump wants. I know what Caruso wants. They want you to rebuild your shit as fast as you can rebuild your shit. I don't think they want anything. They just want to talk. And by the way, why would they? Their job is one big circle jerk. They just sit around and talk about the homeless. It's not like any of them ran a business or anything. They just sit and talk in platitudes. They hide behind safety because safety is one of those things where like, they go, equality or something. You go, oh, yeah, good. No, no, yeah, good, good, right. No one ever calls them out on it. They get in groups of like minded idiots and nothing ever happens. And the next thing you know, we've got some bullet train that goes nowhere, that's been worked on for 17 years and is a, you know, 10, 60 billion over budget. Nobody knows and nobody cares because it doesn't matter to them. It's like my mom in her driveway. She didn't really care. That's the whole point. It wasn't even her house. It was her mom's house. That's the whole point. She didn't care. And Karen Bass doesn't care. And these people don't care. And that's why you're not getting what you want from them.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's harder to get in trouble for abstract concepts than it is for taking action, doing something and something going wrong in that process.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? She wants to talk about the homeless community treated with dignity. I don't even know what the fuck that means, but I do know what a permit is, and I do want to see some bulldozers on this Property. And they're not going to let you do it because they are going to claim that there's hazardous materials in that property and in that ash.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Now this is America. There's hazardous materials everywhere.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, when a neighborhood burns to the ground in Nebraska, I'm guessing it's the same sofa and the same car that melted in the driveway. So the same futon, the same cabinetry. I mean, anytime there's a fire and a house burns to the ground any place in the country, those materials shall be left behind. But somehow those communities have figured out a way to deal with it. And we will not. So, no, you will not be able to just show up at your own property and start clearing it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah, I was out there with the shovel and pickaxe, you know, just a tied across my face. And Karen Bass came and chased me out of there.

[Adam Carolla]

Just the bandana, just a band. But you're doing a little looting, weren't you?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Come on. Obviously I was there.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Then nobody's getting back anywhere and doing anything for a long time. And when she's up there going, yeah, you can go back to your property and do what you want. No, no, you can't. She's fucking lying. And. Or she has no idea what's going on.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I like that the rabble roused when she said that. And they're like, yeah, you could go back. And then everyone was like, yeah, cuz.

[Adam Carolla]

They know she's full of shit. And they also know the second Trump leaves, she's gonna go right back to her way.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Was that a Coastal Commission meeting? It was so strange to have them in a semicircle. Like the worst podcast I ever listened to.

[Adam Carolla]

This is the worst podcast you ever listened to. Get us.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't listen, though.

[Adam Carolla]

Also. Oh, okay. Yeah, touche. I also had a sad realization.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, tell me, bud.

[Adam Carolla]

As I was picturing this cleanup, this monumental cleanup, and I was picturing myself up on the second floor of my condo, which miraculously did not burn down. And I was picturing myself in the bedroom, up against the front with the giant window and PCH completely devastated. Below me, in front and below me, I was picturing laying in bed for the next four years just hearing. Because that's it. That's all. That's all we're gonna. That's all we're gonna hear. That's gonna be my entire adult life from this day forward is. And every once in a while you'll see those guys with the knee. Knee, because they put the. They put the skip loader in reverse. But there's a guy talking to him, holding a coffee in front of me. They're having a discussion. It's like, get it out of reverse. Put in fucking park. Put in park. If you're having a discussion with the guy, it'll be an endless cacophony of backup beepers all the way down.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

PCA leaf blowers are gonna be there.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, here's my idea on it. Maybe every time you eat barbecue, have that sound plan. Every time you receive sexual gratification, have that sound plan. And then you will associate positive memories in a Pavlovian way.

[Adam Carolla]

I like where your head's at.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Thanks, bud. I'm trying to find solutions.

[Adam Carolla]

So you're saying get the backup beeper, headphones, and when I eat barbecue and then when I get oral, and sometimes I like to eat barbecue while I'm getting oral on a toilet.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, Chad, Michael Collins is on the zoom. Right? Are we taking a break here? Yeah. Okay, we'll take a quick break. We'll be back with. I want to get Dawson's plug in too. Dawson, what do you got coming up?

[Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Hey, Ace man. Need your opinion on my black leather bracelet that I wear. It's not one that my daughter made in her preschool class.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not one that's made on a remote beach somewhere in some foreign land.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Doesn'T have stringy things on it. It's just a nice attractive black leather wristband. Let me know your thoughts. Get it on.

[Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

I don't like bracelets on guys, but there are guys I like who wear bracelets and I'll leave it at that. But the stringy ones I don't like. Chad. Michael Collins is our guest sniper. The Last Stand is the name of the new movie available for rent or you can buy it on all digital platforms. Chad, good to see you.

[Chad Michael Collins]

Good to see you. And I'm bracelet free.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, God. We've got.

[Chad Michael Collins]

We don't have to start off on the wrong foot.

[Adam Carolla]

We've gotten off to a great start. So, Chad, I was reading here that you were a publicist out in Los Angeles before you became an actor.

[Chad Michael Collins]

Yeah, yeah, I was a journalism major back in upstate New York. And I figured, you know, rather than trying to be a beat reporter in Nowhere's, Iowa for 10 nondescript years, I went to Los Angeles and fell in with a publicist out there who was gracious enough to make me very overworked and unpaid intern, but then did offer me a low paying assistant job. But I loved him. We worked together many years, became his partner and TV film actors, some Vegas acts and stuff like that. So yeah, that's how I got my start in Hollywood.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you have to put out any fires and.

[Chad Michael Collins]

No, the publicists I work with Had a wonderful roster of clients from the 90s. Jean Claude Van Damme and all sorts of other things. I think he did all of his fire pudding outing then. We didn't have too many dramatic clients. We did some interesting clients for a while. We worked with Gene Simmons for the launch of his magazine for a while there. That was interesting. But most of the clients were super cool.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you think when you see the situation, like the Blake Lively situation and like I have sat next to attorney Mark Garagos and attorney Mark Garagos, you know, several years ago, he's a good friend and he's like, Alec Baldwin's gonna sit down for an interview. And he's like, don't do it, don't do it. Why are you doing this interview? Who is his attorney? Why isn't he listening? And he'd go, I would never let. And then he does the interview and then he says to Stephanopoulos, I never squeezed the trigger. And then the gun goes to the FBI, surrender forensic. And it turns out he did squeeze the trigger. Now they're rolling the tape out at the trial, right? And Mark beside himself, like, why are you sitting down for this interview? So I feel like with the Blake Lively stuff, it's like, why are you getting into it? Just be quiet for five days. The news cycle's gonna change. Why? What are we doing here? And who's advising them and. Or maybe you can't advise them. Maybe you can't tell Alec Baldwin what to do.

[Chad Michael Collins]

I mean, I don't envy the publicist at that level because holy hell, what a shit show. I'm lucky enough to be at a point in my career where I'm well known enough to work, but certainly not in the echelon where the court of public opinion is ready to feast on my corpse. So I don't know, man.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Snipers, sniper and sniper and sniper. Dude, how is it being part of this, like fantastic ip, you know, it's like you, you get to play this guy is badass over and over and over again, you know, in these different iterations. Tell me about that.

[Chad Michael Collins]

Yeah, well, I grew up with. I'm old enough to have grown up to, remember on like tbs.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Chad Michael Collins]

The original Sniper with Barringer and, and Billy Zane and that iconic movie. They did a couple of sequels and then I guess they, they shelved it for like eight to 10 years. I had done another low budget movie and, and the producer that thought I was kind of a ringer for a young town Behringer. So we were in talks to do like an origin story. But then it turned out to be like, ah, you're his progeny, your son. And so, gosh, this is the, this is the eighth, ninth movie I've been a part of going back to 2010. So, wow. It's the, it's the gift that keeps on giving.

[Adam Carolla]

How can you ever estimate any of this and how it would unfold at any point in your life? Do you know what I mean? Can you imagine just going, I'm going to be part of this iconic franchise? Back when you're working as a publicist, you could never even imagine it, right?

[Chad Michael Collins]

No, I never acted a day in my life, man. I grew up in a small town of 2,500 people in upstate New York, and I played football, basketball, baseball. Never did theater, never did drama club. Didn't go to college for anything like this. It was just something that kind of fell into once I was in that business side of the industry. And just as a curiosity, just as a hobby, I was really into like Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan and stuff like that. I just thought it'd be, It'd be fun to, to be, you know, pretend GI Joe, even just as a hobby. And so, I don't know.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Speaking of that, speaking of that, you know, sniper's great, but come on, man, tell me about Modern Warfare 3. Like, how on earth did you get involved with that? How fun was it to be the voice of the video game? Did they do some motion capture on your face? I don't, I don't know what happened.

[Chad Michael Collins]

They own my face, man. They own my face. But I think they pay me like $1,000 every year for the rights to my face, so that's cool of them. I wouldn't know better if it didn't show up. But yeah, Modern Warfare 2019, I got to play one of the. The main protagonists, a character named Alex Keller. Echo Three one, which is great. Max. I grew up on Call of Duty games. I was broken in video games on the Nintendo generation. So I've been a gamer ever since. So being able to be a part of an iconic global hit franchise like that and then appear in a bunch of the sequels and still be a character that's not been killed yet. It's cool. It's nice to be part of a franchise or something that lives on, you.

[Adam Carolla]

Find that you're background in organized sports pays dividends later in life, which I've always. I mean, maybe I'm just grafting this onto you, but I and Mayhem will speak to this too. But when you get a background in like a discipline and a disciplined sport and, you know, overcoming two A days and all the pain and all the whatever that goes along, all the puking with all the puking and all the wind sprints and all that all stuff, it really makes more modern endeavors easier. But then the problem is, is you get ultra annoyed at people who get, who feel unsafe because of X, Y or Z. You know what I mean? Or explain to you why they can't do something. Or they just go, right. You know, or they'll go, like for me, they'll go, I can't come into work. And I'll go, why not? And they'll go, I'm not feeling good. And I'll go, are you going to sit up and watch TV today? And they go, yeah. And I go, well, then sit here and watch your computer today. You know, you're not a roofer. I don't get it. Like, but you're very unsympathetic to super weak people who are full of excuses. Right?

[Chad Michael Collins]

Right. Yeah. I mean, look, I love the football reference. I know that's, you know, your background there. The 2A days. There's nothing worse than two days in August.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Chad Michael Collins]

Humidity of upstate New York or, you know, God forbid, Texas or something like that. But I do, I think it gives you a backbone. I mean, I recommend everybody suffer while they're. Don't sign up for that when you're older. But yeah, I do think that, you know, it's not lost on me. You know, these are action movies. There's some hard days, rough days, some stunts go wrong, you know, you're gonna catch a case, you're gonna chip a tooth, you're gonna, you know, throw something out or spasm your back or, you know, what have you. But it's like, you know, you've already endured the worst, you've already suffered through much worse and shown that you could pick yourself back up again. So it's really not a, not a, not that big of a deal comparatively when you've suffered in that way. And I'm sure anybody with the military or sports background, you know, they're built a different stuff for the rest of their life. So. Yeah, I, I do understand what you're saying about people needing a mental health day and stuff like that. I imagine it's not something that occurs to me.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I imagine for the sniper movies there's a training camp involved. You know, I've been through some of that Hollywood gun training where, you know, you flick the thing and look all cool with all that, you know, but, you know, tell me about that. Like, for. For this movie coming up. Like, what was the training camp like? And, you know, I'm sure there's days where you got to look real huge and jacked, you know, shirt off day, you know, and then other times, you got to do your gun fu. Correctly.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, Right.

[Chad Michael Collins]

Yeah, I mean, we. We're kind of more grounded than the John Wick, you know, sort of franchise. Obviously that with the title being Sniper, you know, there's a lot of long range action, which are actually the easiest shoot days ever because you just sit there and bang out a bunch of parts of scenes of just not moving behind the scope. It's. It's quite a joy, actually. But we do. We're pretty modestly budgeted and, you know, but we do have great technical advisors, a lot of former military veterans who are incredibly knowledgeable that I try to, you know, just be a sponge on, because why wouldn't you? You know, a lot of actors let their ego get in the way of that. But I just pretend like. I pretend like I'm Jon Snow from Game of Thrones. I know nothing. And just try to start from scratch with the humility, learning from people who've actually done it for real. So we don't get a ton. I like, you know, like a Michael Bay film, you know, 13 hours. We don't. We don't get the month, but we might get a day at the range. So, you know, you do what you can off the set to be ready for. I grew up around guns. I grew up in upstate New York, like I said, and I've always been familiar with guns. I was trained at a young age. Shotguns, rifles, deer hunting, all this stuff. So I've been naturally comfortable because I've, you know, I've been educated and I understand it. I have experience with it. So, you know, for me, it's just a really fun part of the job. Pew pewing.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You know, for pretend like an American.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you have some thoughts in high school about going to the next level in football or basketball or one of the sports you played? Was that a dream growing up?

[Chad Michael Collins]

Not really, man. I really enjoyed it. You know, I messed around a little bit playing in junior college, basketball, but, you know, it was just kind of like joining them for practice and stuff. And I was good enough to make the team, and the coach offered me a spot when everybody, all the kids kind of came up from the city and dropped out and they were like, we need you on the Roster, man. You'll be the automatic starter. I was like, look, man, I'm here to get an education, and I appreciate that. But you know that at that low level, when there's not a scholarship, it's like, holy. How many hours of study hall, how many hours of weights, how many hours of practice, how far to travel for games? I'm like, nah, I think I'm gonna stick with the education thing and not be a Bruce Springsteen song to live my glory days forever. So I don't think I was good enough to actually get a scholarship in that way.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, there is something about sports which, in a way, is kind of merciful, which is you have to deal with reality on reality's terms. Like, fast versus wanting to have a. If you want to release a country album, you can kind of hang on to that one till the grave. Like, I know guys that are in their 50s are talking about releasing a country album. They're not gonna release a country album, but they can hang on to it. Writing a novel, you know, they can hang onto it. Sports throws you out, and no one ever has a thought about ever returning because you know you can't do it. You know what I mean? And nobody. It's so pure. Like, you never sit around and go, I could do that better than him. Or it's only because his dad's the kind of coach or what have you. Every other facet of life is, oh, that guy knows that guy, and that guy's helping that guy. Even acting is that way. Comedy's that way. You wouldn't think it would be that way, but there's tons of comedians that are like, I'm funnier than that guy who's selling out arenas and I'm barely selling out delis. You know, they think that way. Sports is so pure. It forces you out, and you never have any illusions about returning. Right. You just go, couldn't do it. Couldn't cut it.

[Chad Michael Collins]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the washout rate's incredible. And, yeah, there's no convincing through talk that you're better than someone who actually made the cut in the team. Either you did or you didn't. And you're getting paid for it or you're not, or you're cut or you're on the roster. So, yeah, it's the ultimate equalizer that forces you to eat the humble pie whether you like it or not.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. But I think in a weird way, it helps you get on with it, you know, because I dreamt, oh, I longed to be a football player, and I dreamt of it and I longed to be and I dreamt. And then at some point, you know, I was 18 and a half and it's like, nope, moving on. And I never sat. I didn't waste a decade thinking I was going to somehow do this. I was like, whatever your dream is, we're pulling the plug, get on with it. And I didn't have anything to get on to, but I was forced. I didn't waste a bunch of time reading magazines about football. I was just like, it was done. And I kind of like that kind of tough love part of sports, which is, it doesn't, it doesn't exist in other facets of life. And it should, and it should with relationships too. We've all wasted time thinking we're gonna somehow repair something or get back to or whatever that thing is. There are people who got adopted and they feel like if they could just meet their biological dad, everything would be solved. And they hang on to this dream. It doesn't serve them. It's just, your dad's dead. Turn the page. Moving on.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So is it strange to get washed out of being a publicist and into a movie star?

[Chad Michael Collins]

Nice transition. I appreciate that segue. Luckily I was doing well enough in an acting career that I could kind of walk away from the office job and go play pretend soldiers and make somewhat of a living. I mean, as guys who've made the LA circuits not a cheap city, it's hard to sustain a career doing anything creative, whether it's comedy, I'm sure, or acting or anything else. Do very few people make it? And very few people can say they've, they make a living. And there's certainly ups and downs in many lean years, but I'm, I'm still at it and I haven't been forced to retreat back to a desk in the past 10 years. So I guess we're doing something right.

[Adam Carolla]

Also, I mean, you're quite a striking, handsome fellow. People must have said when you were doing publicity, like, hey, you're on the wrong side of the camera. Or have you ever thought about or mistook you for talent when in fact you were the non talent in this photo shoot or whatever it was?

[Chad Michael Collins]

Yeah, I was. Weirdly, I've been confused for everyone from Ben McKenzie to Ryan Felipe to Chad Michael Murray. And I suppose that's the Chad Michael part. Whatever, it's okay to be second best Chad Michael in Hollywood, I suppose. But yeah, that's actually how it happened. I was, I was, you know, working with clients that were on TV shows promoting feature studio films and you meet enough agents, you meet enough managers, some good people that we share clients with as the publicist and you know, a couple people put the bug in the ears. Like, you know, I think you got an all American look. Your personality is not. Would you maybe want to go try an acting class and, and let's see how it goes and what you think. So I just kind of did that for a few years as a hobby and you know, it just kind of, it was, it was really fun and it's interesting, the sports analogy. I always liked acting because I approached it like I suppose like an athlete would because there's a mental and a physical component. You have to have an awareness of your body and what you're doing, body language wise. But also mentally, obviously with the lines and the subtext and everything else too. So I kind of approached it as an athlete and you know, kind of thought it was an interesting hobby. And I was lucky enough to stick a few things before I knew what I was really doing. And I went the route of learning while I was working, which is a rare gift to be able to do. But that's kind of how it started. You know, people just put a bug in my ear and I said, sure, why not? I spend $300 on this class. That's the worst that could happen.

[Adam Carolla]

It's always, I gotta say, as the celebrity sometimes I always found it depressing when you do a photo shoot and the photographer was like a really good looking dude and or the publicist was a really good, behind the scenes people were really good looking. And then I would just sit there and I'd go, you, I should be taking pictures of you because you're so good looking. And I don't know why, but it's a little depressing when the photographer is really good looking and for some reason male photographer is a good looking dude job. I do not know why, but I think because they're former models who are now turn 45 or 50 and they're not really model material anymore but they still look like they were models. I didn't like that. I didn't like the good looking publicist, I didn't like the good looking photographer, I didn't like all the good looking people. Cause I'd go, you're the one who should be doing this, not me. And I found it a little depressing. So.

[Chad Michael Collins]

Plus it's tough man. Whatever boat you came in on into la you realize pretty quickly that you can't, can't throw a rock and not hit an attractive person in the face wherever you stand. So anytime someone pays a compliment like that, you know, it's. It's dubious because there's, you know, it's just kind of this mecca of attractive people. It's kind of like, hey, small town, middle of nowhere. What's the best you got? All right, send them. Hey, major city, what's the best you got? Send them. And then they're all right here. So it's all very relative, I suppose, on a handsome scale. I'm. I'm what the kids call mid, comparatively to the consensus of attractive people in la.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll give you upper mid. Are you in Cape Town right now?

[Chad Michael Collins]

I am, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

South Africa?

[Chad Michael Collins]

Yeah. The wind's been raging down here. I'm glad that it's not caving in these windows here. I thought we might have a problem.

[Adam Carolla]

Are you. Are you working on something?

[Chad Michael Collins]

I am. I don't know that I'm at liberty to say, just because studios get weird about that.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree.

[Chad Michael Collins]

I tend not to say it, but we did shoot the last sniper film in Cape Town and had an absolute blast down here.

[Adam Carolla]

Is it because of tax incentives or topography or. What is the incentive for Cape Town?

[Chad Michael Collins]

Yeah, I know. At our sniper movies, I mean, I think it's a blessing. A lot of people don't like to travel for work. I know you're on the road all the time. Maybe that's something that you love to do and I've always loved to do and you see as a privilege and a blessing of the business or sometimes it might just get tedious at certain points in your life, I think.

[Adam Carolla]

I think you should take those things that you may have digested as tedious and think of them as a privilege. It's a better life. We're all guilty. I'm certainly guilty of complaining and not doing it, but, I mean, it's like I tell people I go to towns I would never go to. Like, we all get it. You've been to New York, you've been to Chicago, been to la, but you wouldn't go to certain parts of Wisconsin and certain parts of Texas and certain. You just don't go to these places. And you wouldn't go to these places. I wouldn't go to Oklahoma City under any circumstances, except for they have a club and they book me to come. Timonium. I've been to timonium, which is 40 minutes outside of Baltimore.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, I thought it was a Narnia.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Would anyone go to Timonium?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

What? But I did. I can tell you all about it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Isn't that what Wolverine's claws are made out of?

[Adam Carolla]

Tenemonium. Yeah. So, Chad, you got the right head on this, which is like somebody is buying you a ticket, somebody's paying for the hotel, and you are essentially seeing the world.

[Chad Michael Collins]

I've done. I mean, to your point, like, I've done movies in Bulgaria five times.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Chad Michael Collins]

In Bulgaria. I've loved every experience with Bulgaria. I've been every corner of that country through five movies, including being based in Sofia, which would never occur to me to go to of my own volition on my own dime, but absolute blessing and privilege to get to experience it through doing a film and taking it in and being exposed to that different part of the world and culture that you almost never would have an opportunity to do otherwise. With Bogota, Colombia, the sniper movies have taken me all around the world. We did our first one that I was a part of in Joburg, Johannesburg, South Africa. I mean, it's even taking us up to, like, Winnipeg in Canada. And I'm like, this place is great. Never would have occurred to me to end up in Winnipeg for any reason at all, but really loved it there. For the month that I was there.

[Adam Carolla]

I went to Winnipeg, played the Burton Cummings Theater in Winnipeg, because Burton Cummings of the Guess who. The guess who is from Winnipeg. And yes, I would never go to Appleton, Wisconsin, or Winnipeg. I might go to Madison, Wisconsin, and I might go to Montreal, but I went to Appleton in Winnipeg, which I would never do except for if somebody paid me to go there and play the Burton Cummings Theater. So good. You've now been there and you can say you've been there, and that's cool. And you're doing a international version of my local tour with Bulgaria and South Africa. And where did she say Colombia? Where. Where else did you go? Yeah, we were.

[Chad Michael Collins]

We were in Bogota, Columbia, for one of them, which is wild. Literally wild. But, yeah, I do think it's like you said before, it's that, you know, and I don't wear the producer hat on these things, but it's tax incentive versus strength of the US dollar versus possibly second world economy. Yeah. There's a whole range of factors that people that are much better at math than me kind of figure out and crunch numbers. On and away we go. Passport stamped.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I know. It was funny. The only thing I remember about Winnipeg is when I checked in my hotel, it's always funny when the guy's checking in, goes, I'm not supposed to say anything, but there's a big celebrity up the hall. And I'm like, all right, well, you must be telling other people there's a medium sized celebrity down the hall from the big celebrity, right? Like we all know you talk now, right? He goes, samuel Lynn Jackson is in Winnipeg shooting because they were shooting it like they were in the movie was supposed to take place in Chicago, but Winnipeg was cheaper than filming in Chicago. And that's when I learned my lesson about tax incentives. Chad, let me give you a plug Sniper the Last Stand. It's available for rent or you can buy it on all digital platforms. So wherever you go you can check that out. Chad, it was great to talk to you and I hope when you come back to LA and come in and see us in person, I love that.

[Chad Michael Collins]

I was so sad to get on a plane and miss the opportunity to rap with you guys in person. But I appreciate the time. I'm big fans of you guys and enjoy the show and gosh, talking to you makes me want to go back and re watch crank anchors.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, when you come, yeah, when you come back, come in and we'll definitely press the flesh.

[Chad Michael Collins]

All right, man, I'd love to. Thanks a lot, guys.

[Adam Carolla]

Michael Collins, everybody. All right, take a quick break. Back with Mayhem in the news right after this. Rosetta stones setting 20, 25 resolutions. How about learning a new language? It can enrich your life, help you think as well. Rosetta Stone, the most trusted language learning program available on desktop or as an app. It truly immerses you in the language you want to learn. Dr. Drew's a little bit of a snob. He speaks French, his wife speaks French, but not as good as he. And it's not conversational. And they're going to France. And he said he got Rosetta Stone for her and it cleaned it up. Man, it sounds so good now. 30 years they've been around, millions of users, 25 languages, Spanish, French, Italian, German, Japanese, Chinese, Arabic. It's all there. No English translations. Learn to speak, listen and think in that language. Design for long term retention. Plus the built in truaxent feature gives feedback on your pronunciations. Learn anytime, anywhere and do it on your schedule. It's Rosetta Stone, right?

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[Chad Michael Collins]

A little crime before bedtime with NCIS or Tracker, or curl up with a surefire hit like Forrest Gump.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Run Forrest.

[Chad Michael Collins]

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[Dawson]

Here's a memorable moment from the Adam Carolla Show's ACE Awards archives.

[Adam Carolla]

I like that. Keep it clean. She's got a pushy pussy. Yeah. All right, hold on a second. I like the sticker mat. Let me. Let's just lay it down, you know, just go ahead and have fun with it. Lay it down and we'll see if we can go. I'm having a lot of fun. But you keep an interruption. I'm sorry. I don't do that on your show. You talk all day. Same thing. I don't go, hey, there. Your opinion don't mean. Maybe this tour thing isn't a great idea. No, it is a good thing. If you give me a chair, you take it from the top. Yeah, take it from the top. Bring it a treble up a little louder so I can hear my voice and. Well, maybe you could have shut the up.

[Dawson]

Now for some new memorable moments. Let's get back to the Adam Corolla show.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

What the hell was that?

[Adam Carolla]

That's Jo Koy.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah, Joe, I know his voice.

[Adam Carolla]

I started it. I had this notion of Jo Koy as Bung Lu Su trying out for the band the Floaters. I think that's where it came because in the Floaters in that song, they talk at the beginning. Like old R B songs. They would talk, you know, intro. And then the floaters like, my name is Leo. And I like, no, no, the floater should be like. They introduce it, I don't know. Find the beginning of the floater and then the guy like, my name is Kevin and I'm a Virgo. And I like a woman who speaks her mind. And at some point, there's one where the guy just goes, this is Float on by the Floaters. And I just thought it'd be funny if Bung Liu was replacing one of the floaters. And my name is Ralph. Now, I like a woman who loves her freedom and I like a woman who can hold her own. There's. Which is good, but there's one where he just goes, I like a woman who doesn't talk like. He just goes, yeah. So anyway, Bung Lou is gonna try out for the floaters and that classic bit. But you know what he liked in a woman? You know, one he could beat? Flip flop. Yeah. So then I would play the engineer who auditioned. That's how it worked.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

A classic. We got some news. I could jump right in.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, jump right in. Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Trump ends Fauci's security detail and says he's feel no responsibility if he was harmed. Yeah. President Donald Trump ended the federal security detail for Anthony Fauci and the infectious disease expert who advised him on the COVID 19 pandemic. A person familiar with the matter said on Friday. Here's Trump.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. But you can't have a security detail for the rest of your life because you worked for government. Yeah, we'll see what happens. Responsible if something were to happen to, say, Dr. Fauci or John Bolton. No, no. You know, they all made a lot of money. They can hire their own security, too. All the people you're talking about, they can go out. I can give them some good numbers of very good security people. They can hire their own security. They all made a lot of money. Fauci made a lot of money. They all did. So if they felt that strongly, I think that certainly I would not take responsibility.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Now, I'm interested to hear how you find all this.

[Adam Carolla]

I think they should be provided security. On the other hand, these guys were destructive and Fauci was destructive, and Fauci fought Trump and tried to undermine Trump, and so did Collins and many of the others and basically did the opposite of whatever Trump said and got involved with gain of function in a lab in Wuhan and lied to everybody and he got pardoned for a reason. He's pardoned for a reason. It's not because Trump is vindictive. It's that he did a bunch of illegal shit and lied to the American people and tried to fuck Trump up and undermine him. So Trump doesn't give a fuck about this guy that tried to fuck him up in essentially the last election. So I get that part, but you still have to provide.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Do you think the climate is as such that maybe there is a danger for someone to go after Fauci? Because I think that's a bit extreme.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. He ruined a lot of lives and he knew what he was doing and he got pardoned for a reason, and he was wrong about everything. So he falls under the heading of stupid. Or liar, which is either he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing because he's wrong about everything, or he knows what he's doing and he's lying about everything. Like the COVID came from a lab in Wuhan.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah, this seems like.

[Adam Carolla]

How did he not know this? And then why did he try to destroy anybody who suggested it came from the most likely source, which is the lab that studies this in Wuhan? Why did Fauci not know this? Why do you think it came from a pangolin? And why did he do it? Well, Trump said it came from a lab, so Fauci said, I gotta undermine Trump. And he did the opposite. And he said it came from a wet market.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

High school never ends.

[Adam Carolla]

No, that's what it is. But at a certain point when you're a specialist and everyone listens to you, then you should be more truthful. So he lied, and he was always compromised. And I knew it was a saving lie or what.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't understand the whole lie aspect of this. To me, it's like he's stupid or he was told.

[Adam Carolla]

No, he. Well, first off, he worked with the lab on gain of function and they backdoored the whole thing from the United States to China, and he was involved with it. So it was. His ass was on the. That's why. Okay, the save your ass that worked on the virus. So there's save your own ass part and there's take Trump down for any reason all the time. And that's all he did. But Fauci's not. He didn't turn out to be a hero, and he got pardoned for a reason because there's plenty of. There'd be plenty of reason why that guy could be locked up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So it's partially that we have like an adversarial system in the world now.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, here's what we have. I mean, okay, we have a Democrat and we have a Republican, and we have Trump saying one thing and we have Hillary Clinton saying another thing. Yeah, that's fine. So you have Biden says this. Okay, I'll give you a couple examples. We have Trump over here and we have Biden over here, and we got Trump over here, and we got Hillary Clinton over there. Okay, fine. And then there's the FBI and the CIA and the infectious disease and all the who. But I mean, beyond that, it's the Rochelle Walensky's of the world and the Fauci's of the world and the comeys of the world and all the people that run these agencies of the world. Right? So you got. You got Trump over here, you got Biden over there, and then you got Hillary over here and Trump over there. Okay? So then the Steele dossier comes out, and Russian collusion comes out. Now, what you don't want is the group in the middle that's not supposed to be partisan, doing the work of one side. You want them just to be the FBI. You don't want 51 people from the FBI saying that Hunter Biden's laptop has all the earmarks of Russian collusion. When they own the laptop, they've examined the laptop, and they don't think that.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And when Covid comes around, you don't want Fauci, who's supposed to just be calling balls and strikes, helping out Biden. You want him to call balls and strikes. But they got corrupted, and that's what you saw. Now, it's not him being wrong, it's him being corrupted. And the lab leak, well, that would have maybe helped Trump, and the wet market would have helped Biden or Hillary Clinton or whatever it is. So they just got corrupted and they went that way, which is now. That's the new world order, and that's not where you want to live. Damn. Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But also, you should strip the security clearances of the 51 guys who put together a paper saying that Hunter Biden's laptop was fake because those people can no longer be trusted. Because they lie.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

That's all I'm saying.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. So screw Fauci. By the way, early money on Fauci. I told everyone he was corrupted. I told everyone he was compromised super early on into this process. And then I said, it's only gonna go one direction, and it's not going to go good direction for Fauci. That's it. He'll die. He'll be a millionaire. Idiots will still have his candles. But he did not help. He was corrupted. He's not a good dude.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, Moving on from Dr. Fauci, Jewel apologizes for disappointing fans by performing at RFK Jr. S inauguration event. She says, I'm so sorry. Yeah. She's opened up about her choice to perform at Robert F. Kennedy's ball honoring Donald Trump's inauguration, explaining that her commitment to addressing the nation's mental health crisis transcends political divides.

[Adam Carolla]

Who does she have to apologize to?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

We have some footage of this.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, we do.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I am so sorry that I.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Caused pain, pain, pain.

[Adam Carolla]

To respond to the LGBTQIA + community, because you guys are treasures oh, Jewel, you make the world. No, you don't. No, you're true. You've made my life. Well, maybe your life. Not this. This guy's life. All right, Jewel, don't cave. Sweetie. Oh, sweetie, it's such a.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But they buy a lot of Spotify downloads.

[Adam Carolla]

I guess the dream lasts for so.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Long, even after you come.

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, dude, it's so sad. Don't cave.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No, they have to cave because, look, when you're selling records to a particular group of people, you better. You know what I mean, like, edge towards their direction a little bit.

[Adam Carolla]

I like Jewel. Jewel should just own it. She agreed to perform.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I just got paid.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, not only that, but Kennedy's trying to get, you know, red dye number 17 out of your Froot Loops. Give him a fucking break.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's cow talent to the now. I didn't even know this now. And I'm the news guy. LGBTQIA plus. So they're adding on more syllables to this thing.

[Adam Carolla]

And they're worried about. They're not worried about Kennedy, though. They're worried about Trump.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I think so. Yeah. Like, they take it as her kowtowing Trump because it was at his inauguration ball. So I guess that's where we are in America, where you can't even play for the President.

[Adam Carolla]

There's that clip I was talking to Dr. Drew about, which Joe has somewhere that I liked, which is some town, small town in Wisconsin, was focused on flying the gay flag through the Trump administration. But I thought this encapsulates everything for me, which is this is a big story about are they going to keep the gay flag up? It's like, that's not going to. You hanging a beach towel on a piece of extruded aluminum is not going to prevent any hate crimes or do anything to anybody, by the way. So people think, so what do you care? I care because the symbolism. It's the symbolism. Okay, you go look. We could either fortify this school with metal detectors and security guards to prevent school shootings, or I could put a sign that says, this is a hate free zone. And if I do the hate free zone thing, then we don't need the metal detector. And I'm like, okay, you're putting yourself and your students in danger because you're making proclamations that don't have anything to do with anything. Louisiana was on fire because we made a lot of good vibe proclamations and then we burned to the ground. I'll play this clip cuz it's a town in Wisconsin and they want to fly the gay flag because they want to keep people, they want to keep the community safe. But the flag doesn't save anybody anyway. It's a story. Here it is, and it's basically saying, we're now at a crossroads. Would you like to go nuts and bolts? Would you like to go pragmatic? Would you like to get shit done? Or would you like to fucking have a bunch of symbolic discussions about a flag that someone invented 10 minutes ago that does nothing to save anybody or protect anybody? But here we go. Right now, Verona is taking the symbolic step of flying the Progress Pride flag for the entire year.

[Chad Michael Collins]

It's partly a protest of the Trump administration. J.T.

[Adam Carolla]

Siskowski asked Verona's mayor if the city is planning any more direct resistance to the federal government. Flying a flag. Luke Diaz tells me that the city is trying to actively avoid picking any fights with the incoming Trump administration because the city still wants to receive subsidies and grants from the federal government. But he says recognizing marginalized communities with the Progress Pride flag was not an area he was willing to compromise. The flag's presence outside of the Verona city center and other municipal buildings is a direct reaction to the incoming Trump administration, Diaz says. Powerful people clearly targeting a community. And I think that can send the message to people who might, you know, also want to target that community. Who's targeting the gay community? What is going on? These are such narcissists. No one gives a fuck whose dick you suck, retard. Get the fuck on with it. And by the way, if you guys got aqueducts, I hope they're full. And we got fire extinguishers, I hope they're full. And if you have a fire department, I hope they're competent. That's the shit you need to focus on, not targeting the marginalized community that you invented. It's 2025. There is no more. Move the fuck on. But we'll play a little more. Sorry. That community, that this is okay, that's acceptable, and this is our chance to push back on it. At this December meeting, the Verona Common Council voted to display the Progress Pride flag for an entire year. The meeting drew more than enough arguing over nothing comments from both those in favor of flying the flag and those against doing so. At its meeting Monday, the council voted to update its flag policy, ensuring it can fly the flag at any time it wants in case an anti LGBTQ administration takes power. In Wisconsin, the state government. I don't know what you mean. An anti gay administration takes power. It doesn't mean anything. Pause it. But here's the thing. There is not an infinite number of minutes in the working day. So you can either dedicate your time to. To some public safety thing that actually exists, or you could make up shit about marginalized communities and have endless meetings on it. But if you do that, whatever, the real safety issues that are in your community, that are in every community, will be ignored to the extent that you spend time on the other thing that doesn't exist.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Abstract concepts are taking over time.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what Los Angeles is. We were spending so much time painting the gay colors on the crosswalk, which are now burnt in the fire. You see what I'm saying? But thank God we had the crosswalk. I wonder how many gay flags went up in the fire. You know how many people had signs in the front that said, in this home, we don't judge and no one is illegal and we embrace All. All burnt up. All that cardboard's burnt up. And you're fucking pre ex. You're your Prius with the coexist bumper sticker that's burnt to the ground too.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Add a hate crime to that homeless guy.

[Adam Carolla]

So keep going. Your gay flag is just more flammable shit to burn up at your city hall. Thank you. All right, what else? What do you got?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, I got some more. Look. Billy Ray Cyrus son claims his dad is threatening legal action after an open letter asking him to get help. Here is the open letter. Dad, my message was beyond loving. I could be extremely honest about a lot more, but I didn't want to put your business out there like that.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you guys see Billy Ray's performance?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, that's the big one is that during the performance, he had technical difficulties and everybody was saying he was lit af.

[Adam Carolla]

He was. Well, we'll put the sound in here, but I'm gonna take my horse to the old Town road I'm gonna. Oh, God.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Show must go on.

[Adam Carolla]

Take my halls to the old town road I can't no more. Y'all can put your hands together now. I like that. If you encourage me, I'll keep going. They told me to kill as much time as possible, so. Check. Check his. Hey, is my guitar still on? I think they cut me off. Is my guitar on? Guys, a lot of technical difficulties all around the. Yeah. Where's everybody at? Check. All right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

As a performer, how do you feel about this? I. I think he could have done a few more things. Maybe you should take an improv class.

[Adam Carolla]

I had a little dreidel. I made it out of clay. Now, come on, everyone, now. And when it's drying. Ready? You know the words. Come on. Trumpers. Oh, dreidel Everyone now. Oh, dreidel, dreidel, dreidel. I made it out of clay and went. Okay. I'm gonna punch Miley when I see her.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, look, Trace's son was, you know, kind of out of the way.

[Adam Carolla]

Do we hear it? Let me hear a little more.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Take off his hat.

[Adam Carolla]

But it ain't playing, man. Tech guy comes out. Yeah, I guess it's dead.

[Chad Michael Collins]

You know what?

[Adam Carolla]

Hell, just snap your fingers. That's okay, bud. That's okay. You can tell the world you never was my girl. You can burn my clothes up when I'm gone. They keep breaking.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, yeah. This is my carry on. Okie. Go to fool.

[Adam Carolla]

I've been and laughing. Joke about me on the phone. There you go. You can tell my own. All right. Hey. Okay, so it seems physically like there's something going on. Right. Lose a lot of weight.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

A lot of hair, a lot of beard, a lot of scars.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And the sound of his voice, like he just gargled gravel.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. You sound like Houston and this guy.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I shouldn't throw songs.

[Adam Carolla]

You sound like a disgusting nerd. Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Soulful voice.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God, you sound like Dinah Shore and Rosemary Clooney all mixed into one.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

A lot of chamomile tea.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I agree that something seems wrong with this cat.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I agree that his son probably should reach out to him, but I don't know if he needs to do it publicly.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's what I'm saying. He did it publicly. And then Billy Ray threatened to sue him. Yeah. For some reason. And then Billy Ray turned around and said he's praying for the family amid drama. Yeah. He's calling for peace among some family. Inviting. Sending prayers to. One of the kids accused him of sending a legal threat. So it's back and forth to these guys.

[Adam Carolla]

Look, is anyone ever wrong when they say, look, this guy's in bad shape. He's abusing drugs. Listen to him up there. Listen. What he looks. Look. See what he looks like. Is anyone ever wrong? I mean, is it ever. Well, like, hey, no, I didn't do it. I'm fine.

[Dawson]

I have an alternate point of view.

[Adam Carolla]

We're all. We're all.

[Dawson]

Billy Ray Cyrus is essentially a one hit wonder.

[Adam Carolla]

That's true.

[Dawson]

That's true.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he's got the second one with the collaboration with.

[Dawson]

Oh, that's right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. But I get you.

[Dawson]

I don't think he was a very good singer to begin with.

[Adam Carolla]

That I'm with you. I'm with you on that.

[Dawson]

And when he's on stage completely naked like that, with no effects on the microphone, no bands, no backing tracks, no vocals, His. His flaws are going to shine through. Now, he may be completely on drugs, but I think that's his voice. I don't think.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, no, it's not. It's not the aforementioned Whitney Houston. No, it's something. Yeah, I agree. There was no there there to begin with, so there's nowhere to go here. But also, when guys who were kind of stout guys seemed drawn and very, you know, emaciated, he was always a.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Lanky guy, but he now knew spring bead. He was thick. I don't remember.

[Adam Carolla]

He was fuller. Yeah. When you see achy baraky heart. He was a thicker kind of lantern jaunt guy who was a robuster sort of dude.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Sure.

[Dawson]

But he was in his mid-30s at that point.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I know, but the point is, you know, it's not all about me, but I'm 10 pounds heavier than I was when I was 30. You know, most guys kind of thicken up as they go along. You know the one, they don't. I mean, you shrivel at the end.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But he ain't to that point.

[Adam Carolla]

He's something. Something is. This isn't a guy who just has a few beers at the end of the night. That's not what he looks like. No, I think that may be truck or something. Or something.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You're right.

[Adam Carolla]

Going on. Do we have any achy break? He was kind of a. As I recall, he did achy break art and a wife beater. Right. So he was kind of like.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But it's still a lanky dude, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, lanky for you.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. It's the vid around somewhere. I. I don't see the vid. That's. And I don't. I never got it. I was in a big deal, but we'll see if he's.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I mean, come on. Prime of his life. Never touched the pipe. And then later on.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, well, regardless, maybe some help is necessary, but I don't think that stuff should be aired out in public.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, it's too late. Trace already busted it out.

[Adam Carolla]

And then it's like this thing where it's like, I don't talk to my dad. Like, Miley doesn't talk.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, that's strange.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a lot of friction. And I'm just saying, I don't know where that comes from, but that could also Be what we're talking about in terms of substance. When you have real friction with your kids.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

What do you mean? Like adult kids. Everybody's fighting over money or something.

[Chad Michael Collins]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Where people aren't talking to one another. Like there's something estranged. Estranged. Like how many reasons. I know.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Are there any? Well, not any, but it doesn't happen that often. I don't think where adult children and adult parents are completely estranged without some.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

There's some substance out and like smash.

[Adam Carolla]

Up the room or something in there. Yes. And look, I'm sure the son knows something. I would tend to believe the son. I wouldn't think he's just going out and taking potshots at his dad because he lost a few pounds.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so he wants him to get out.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But like Dawson said, I mean, but naked up there, no pa, no guitar.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It sounds a lot worse than it is.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I agree. Bungalow sue sounded better.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Are you ready to clutch your pearls with a shocking news. Pee Wee Herman star Paul Reubens comes out as gay in a documentary after his death.

[Adam Carolla]

Gay from the grave.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes. Pac Smooth this mislead gay.

[Adam Carolla]

He did?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

He said in an interview in this.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Documentary, a two part docu series, Pee Wee as himself, which made his debut on Thursday night at the Sundance Film Festival. Yeah. He talked about I was out as you could be and then I went back into the closet. Rubin says in the documentary my career would have absolutely suffered if I was openly gay. So I went to great lengths for many, many years to keep it a secret. It's like not shocking, right?

[Adam Carolla]

No, not at all. But what movie, what porno? What was playing at the porno movie house that he got caught in Dade county beating off in? Because that's the tale of the take.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I under researched this, but I'm assuming it was homoerotic in nature.

[Adam Carolla]

If it was, it was never really discussed. Although, you know. Do you know there used to be a franchise of movie houses for X rated films and they were called Pussycat, right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I've heard of that. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You've heard of that.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I've heard of that.

[Adam Carolla]

My friend Zeb worked at one. He used to get me in free. All right, so I'm reading. I'll tell you. So let me just. Let me lay it out. All the Pussycat theaters have been closed because somebody invented a VCR and porn tapes and guys could sit in the privacy of their own apartment and watch pornography without jockeying for elbow room with other like minded gents who were beating off in the seat Next to them, right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So soon as the VHS tape and the VHS recorder were introduced, the Pussycat Theaters. And you can look it up, Joe, There must have been. It was a big franchise. Pussycat Theaters at the height of their powers, 1973. They probably had 250 locations or something. It was a lot. There was a couple Pussycats out here. Okay. Only one remained.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's Hollywood.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah, now you're talking. Because fellas want to go with like minded gents and watch other fellas beaten off. You get it?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. It's a team sport.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So they were playing gay adult entertainment. And that one did great business. That one remained. The one in the San Fernando Valley. My buddy Zeb went for the heterosexual guys. That was gone immediately, so it would kind of make sense. According to the county sheriff's office, three detectives went to the XXX South Trail Cinema to watch the audience that was watching a triple bill of Catalina, 5o tiger shark, nurse Nancy.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, okay.

[Adam Carolla]

And Turn up the Heat. So I guess we'd have to figure those ones out.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

This sounds straight titles to me.

[Adam Carolla]

Nurse Nancy and Turn up the Heat, you know, five zero, Tiger Shark and Catalina, Tiger Shark and Turn up the Heat could be ambiguous, but Nurse Nancy sounds like there's a theme there. And so what year was Pee Wee in this? Because again, it was. People would say, look, you're a rich guy. You have a VCR at home, you have a DVD or cd. DVD player.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Throw the game.

[Adam Carolla]

Why not? But it's only to meet other dudes.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes, exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but if it's a straight place.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Maybe just to watch other dudes. I don't understand this.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know, but the fact that in modern times a rich guy went with other fellas to a place and pulled his honker out and whacked it. 91. I mean, who didn't have a VCR in 91?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I know. Yeah, we did. And we were poor.

[Adam Carolla]

We didn't. We were poor, stupid. My dad bought the Beta instead of the VHS one, so chose the wrong. Chose the wrong one. Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Anyway, it looks like all of them are straight porn. Really? Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Do you scrub through all of them? Byron has.

[Adam Carolla]

Byron has all of them.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

If you want to watch it. Okay, great. Wow, Nice way to start the scene.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Porn right there. But yeah, all right.

[Adam Carolla]

It's women. Lessen off. Yeah, all right, we got it. The point is. So what was he doing then?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't know. He was confused.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so anyway, he came out from the grave.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. Came out from the grave. Yeah. The interesting part about the story was that Rubens tells about story when he came out to his parents and how his father wrote him an incredible letter, said, son, if you're a homosexual, I want you to know I hope you can be the greatest homosexual you can be.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's what he said.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a progressive dad right there.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. I don't know, I figured that you got to love your kids no matter what, right?

[Adam Carolla]

It's like, oh, listen, if I was gay, my dad would have been like, nah, all right, that's more information than I needed. But whatever, do whatever you want. My dad wouldn't have cared at all if I was gay. And my mom would have been happy about it. And my grandmother would have been over the moon.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Really? Oh, that's right.

[Adam Carolla]

They would have liked it. They would have liked. Because it would have been more currency for them. Social currency.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Currency.

[Adam Carolla]

Hollywood ass wipes whose kids transition and they weave it in. My son is transition. I was like, okay, hero. All right. Attention, whore. We get it. Narcissists. Every time you talk, you talk about your son who transitioned. Now your daughter, or vice versa, they get some sort of social standing in their retarded world from that. Now, you and I wouldn't, but in their world and the circles they run in, they would. And my grandmother would. It wouldn't matter if I was a celebrity, I would be known as her gay grandson, not her celebrity grandson.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And if your son was gay, I'd assume he'd be like, yeah, he's gay, and it would be over with.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I would have thoughts maybe about, I don't know, grandkids or like, are they adopted, you know, or like, how would that work? And I probably have a preference that I wish he was heterosexual but not enough to really do anything about it. And I just kind of live with it, you know, I would hope he was a top, you know, but that's about it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that's about all I've got with that kid. I wouldn't have anything more.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I didn't even realize Pee Wee died last year or two, actually 20, 23, so about two years ago now after a six year battle with cancer. Secretly.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Just didn't even know he was sick.

[Adam Carolla]

So this is at Sundance and this is a doc and it'll probably be bought, maybe end up on Netflix or something.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I'm very interested in it, to be honest. He's like, Pee Wee Herman was like part of my childhood. Like, he was like the funny host of the Kids show when I was a kid.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And I remember him going through that scandal and being like, oh, kind of shocked that, oh, okay, well, gay people are just.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait, how old were you when that happened?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

10.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, exactly. So.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And everybody on the bus was like, oh, Peewee was spanking his monkey. I'm like, all right. Like, oh, wow. What is that? Like, I didn't even understand what.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a lot to process. 10 year old.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

I was well into adulthood, so it was just kind of neither here nor there. And I lived out here and I didn't worship the guy and anything.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And then later on, I'm telling you. Oh, it was like a fever dream. I was at, like, as Pee Wee was coming back into the fold as a regular member of society, I was at, like, this weird house party where he sent his first tweet. Yeah. It's really. Yes. So I know my childhood dreams is like, in a bizarre. And I don't know, Tyson Beckford was there. I told you so many times.

[Adam Carolla]

Tyson. Good looking black guy.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He is.

[Adam Carolla]

So, Pete, you were 10.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I know.

[Adam Carolla]

When you found this out.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. It's very shocking to me because I just kind of figured out what jerking off is. So I was like, oh, okay. So he was doing that.

[Adam Carolla]

I was trying to think. I mean, we probably all made that guy's beating his meat, you know, way before we were even beating our own meat. But it was still a thing we did, you know?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I had somebody. I've always been curious about this. I had someone tweet me the other day when I said, you know, oh, you're accused. I may have cut the cheese, but you licked the knife, right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And then somebody said, oh, they grew up in Vermont. And they're like, we had that one, too.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I know.

[Adam Carolla]

And how did it make it here?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Where were you when Pee Wee Herman got caught jacking off in the theater?

[Adam Carolla]

And where were you pre Internet? Like, how did stuff get around? How did the rumor of. Okay, how did the rumor of, like, Richard gearing the gerbil in the butt or Rod Stewart had to have his stomach pumped?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Marilyn Manson got his ribs removed so he could suck himself.

[Adam Carolla]

Where did this. How did this spread throughout the land?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

How about the S on your notebook? An S that looks like an infinity kind of.

[Adam Carolla]

You talking about a peachy folder?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I guess. But everyone drew the same S. We.

[Adam Carolla]

Talking about that orange, peachy folder?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you don't know what a peachy folder is?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't even know. Sorry I missed that era.

[Adam Carolla]

You guys remember Peachy Folder? Oh, yeah, Trapper Keepers.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I know this Stussy ass that Jason's talking the S, right? Stussy stole it. No, dude, that one's for the streets.

[Adam Carolla]

I was the other way around.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, really? No, it's been documented over and over again. We're gonna get to the bottom of this. But yeah, it's an S that everyone draws like this, go like that, go like that, and then make a little S, like, so.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You don't know what I'm talking about.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I kind of do, but I'm older than you, and I miss the. I come from the peachy folder.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Dawson, find me some good peachy folder art. There she is. There's the S. There's the S. The peachy folder art was. They had people running track and people playing football and people doing stuff and, like, find me the ones, Dawson. Where the track star were vatos chasing the other guy with a knife. Like, we would mod. Everyone would take their peachy folders, and they would take them and they would art them up. There was, like, peachy folder art, and I don't know why, but there was the track star, which is, by the way, three white guys. By the way, everybody depicted on this peachy folder is a white athlete. Back when we could do such a thing. You need a little diversity. Now and then somebody would do a serious artist rendition of it. They would take the guys running track and they'd put a bandana around their head, and they'd take the baton and they'd make it into a knife, and they do a whole sort of inner city Chico and the man version of this stuff, and I was never skilled enough to do it. But you were Trapper era. I was Peachy Folder era. I don't know if you put in peachy folder art, Dawson, is there.

[Dawson]

Yeah, we're coming up with stuff. We're just trying to find the right one.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Yeah. I would publish that coffee table book, which is Peachy folder art. Did you wrap your books in shopping bags, man?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

They made us, like, do ours in, like, I guess it was newspaper or Sears catalogs. You had to, like, chop them up into this.

[Adam Carolla]

It wasn't a. Wasn't a brown bag.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. Brown bag. Yeah. That was when I went to army school. But, like, nah, the regular schools didn't give a shit. They had state funding.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Just throw your books away next year.

[Adam Carolla]

God, it was such a waste of time even issuing me a book. I Never took them out of my locker. My locker had fruit flies, so I left fruit in my locker. You know, it got fruit flies. It was such a waste. I was so warehoused. I just played football. That was it. All right. Well, if we can't find it, we can't find it. Though I have seen it before.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Peachy.

[Adam Carolla]

I've seen the peachy art.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It does look classic.

[Adam Carolla]

I gotta say, I don't know what you'd plug in. Peachy folder art. Any kind. Any modification will work. I just wanna. I just wanna show Mayhem. Yeah. All right. The chick playing tennis has a huge afro and hairy legs and is wearing boxer shorts. Like, that's all we had.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Joe, she's got a frying pan with eggs and bacon.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I didn't even notice that. She just smacked the football guy in the head. Yeah, yeah. It was a simpler time. It's all we had. That's all we had was sitting around and doodling. Doodling.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You're right.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Boca Raton at the Black Box Theater. They added an early show. The late show sold out. That'll be Thursday, but they added an early show. A lot of people wanted to get tickets, so come on out.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And I got to sell some honey. Samoomanuka.com Mayhem.

[Adam Carolla]

Mmm, boy, we got another folder here.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's great.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, we have. Is there a guy in the middle? Looks like Dr. Drew.

[Dawson]

That's you, Gina. Bald Brian Kimmel.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, wow. It went deep right there.

[Adam Carolla]

Somebody made me a peachy folder.

[Chad Michael Collins]

Yes.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Nice.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, man, what a tip of the cap. Naples off the Hook Comedy Club. That's gonna be this Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Still some tickets. I don't know. Two shows a day you can go to for all the live ones. Manuka, honey. Very good. I've been enjoying it. Where do you go to get the Manuka Samu.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Manuka.com mayhem.

[Adam Carolla]

So until next time, Adam Crawford, Chad, Michael Collins and Mayhem saying mahalo.

[Dawson]

Leave us a voicemail at 888-634-1744 and get your tickets to see the Ace man in Naples, Florida, this weekend@adam barola.com.

[Chad Michael Collins]

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Chad Michael Collins]

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