Singer Clay Aiken + Actress/Model Brande Roderick

Summary

Summary of The Adam Carolla Show featuring Clay Aiken and Brande Roderick

Release Date: December 4, 2024

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1. Welcome and Introductions

Adam Carolla kicks off the episode by welcoming his longtime friend, Singer Clay Aiken, and the multi-talented Actress/Model Brande Roderick to the studio. The trio shares a brief moment of camaraderie before delving into the main topics of the day.

2. Clay Aiken’s Career and Recent Projects

Clay Aiken discusses his return to the studio and his latest musical endeavors.

Clay shares his enthusiasm about returning to the Adam Carolla Show, highlighting his new album, "Christmas Bells Are Ringing." He explains the inspiration behind the album, emphasizing his preference for classic Christmas standards over modern renditions.

Clay Aiken [04:01]: "Christmas Bells Are Ringing is the name of the album. It's available right now. You find finer music and even mediocre music. It's all there. Clay's got a beautiful voice."

3. Preferences in Christmas Music

The conversation shifts to Clay’s musical tastes, particularly his fondness for old-school Christmas songs. He criticizes contemporary additions like John Lennon’s "Happy Xmas" for their somber tone, advocating instead for the traditional, uplifting classics.

Clay Aiken [04:40]: "Christmas is about familiarity, being with people who, you know, who you love and nostalgia and so everything on this album is something somebody knows."

4. Reality TV and Celebrity Apprentice Insights

Adam and Clay reminisce about Clay’s experience on Celebrity Apprentice, where Clay felt he outperformed Arsenio Hall in the final task. They humorously debate the subjective nature of competition shows and the impact of external factors on outcomes.

Adam Carolla [05:27]: "You ran for office?"

Jason Mayhem Miller [05:30]: "Yeah, I'm gonna tour with this next year."

5. Singing, Self-Esteem, and Personal Reflections

The discussion takes a deeper turn as Jason Mayhem Miller shares his thoughts on singing and self-esteem. He reflects on his reluctance to perform publicly despite his talent, attributing it to a combination of luck and a preference for authenticity over self-promotion.

Jason Mayhem Miller [09:35]: "It's something I always wanted to do. Whether I was in... I don’t think at 6, you're any good at it necessarily. You just like it."

Adam relates to Jason's feelings, sharing a personal story about wrist surgery and his own challenges with self-esteem and public appearances.

6. Parenting and Nature vs. Nurture Debate

Jason opens up about his experiences raising his 16-year-old son, observing the blend of nature and nurture in his son's behavior. He notes the differences in how he handles conflict compared to his son, leading to an insightful conversation about inherent traits versus learned behaviors.

Jason Mayhem Miller [37:16]: "It's fascinating for me to see what you were just talking about in my own life."

7. Music Critique and Modern Entertainment

Adam and Jason critique contemporary music and entertainment trends, discussing the popularity of DJs like John Summit and artists like Sabrina Carpenter. They express confusion and skepticism about the mass appeal of certain performances and the evolving landscape of music consumption.

Adam Carolla [57:53]: "Every music theory."

Brandon [58:37]: "But why are they all getting Sabrina Carpenter?"

8. Brande Roderick’s Film Project: "Wineville"

Brande Roderick takes the spotlight to talk about her latest film, "Wineville," which she not only stars in but also directs and produces. She shares the challenges and triumphs of balancing multiple roles in filmmaking, especially after her initial director faced legal issues.

Brande Roderick [108:29]: "It took almost three years to finally get it on air to get it released. It is a very huge undertaking and I don't think I'll play all Hats ever again."

9. Reflections on the Playboy Legacy

The conversation shifts to a nostalgic reflection on Hugh Hefner and the legacy of Playboy. Brande emphasizes the positive influences Hefner had, such as promoting civil rights and the arts, contrasting it with the negative perceptions that have emerged over time.

Brande Roderick [115:00]: "He was very gracious and such a wonderful human being. So to hear people talking horrible things about him, it's very hard to hear because that's not my experience with him."

10. Cultural Critiques and Humor

Adam injects his trademark humor by critiquing modern interpretations of classic elements, such as peacocks at the Playboy Mansion and the replication of iconic songs with minimal creativity. The banter between the hosts remains lively and entertaining throughout.

Adam Carolla [89:03]: "We're doing our third annual comedy fantasy camp. That's going to be January 23rd through the 26th... Go to comedyfantasycamp.com and get in on the fun."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Clay Aiken [04:01]: "Christmas Bells Are Ringing is the name of the album. It's available right now. You find finer music and even mediocre music. It's all there. Clay's got a beautiful voice."

• Jason Mayhem Miller [09:35]: "It's something I always wanted to do. Whether I was in... I don’t think at 6, you're any good at it necessarily. You just like it."

• Brande Roderick [108:29]: "It took almost three years to finally get it on air to get it released. It is a very huge undertaking and I don't think I'll play all Hats ever again."

• Brande Roderick [115:00]: "He was very gracious and such a wonderful human being. So to hear people talking horrible things about him, it's very hard to hear because that's not my experience with him."

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Conclusion

This episode of The Adam Carolla Show offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and insightful discussions on music, self-esteem, parenting, and cultural phenomena. Clay Aiken and Brande Roderick bring their unique perspectives, enriching the conversation and providing listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful reflections. Whether reminiscing about classic Christmas tunes or critiquing modern entertainment trends, the trio delivers an engaging and memorable episode.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

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[Brandon]

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[Adam Carolla]

Chicago, IL hey, our good friend Clay Aiken is back in the studio. Always great to catch up with my friend and Playmate of the Year. And Baywatch alumni Brandy Roderick is going to join us as well. Mayhem's got the news and we'll do all that right after this.

[Clay Aiken]

I love reality TV on Pluto tv.

[Adam Carolla]

Same.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And I love that it's free.

[Clay Aiken]

It gives me the freedom to watch Bravo's Real Housewives Vault channel.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm totally free to watch Bad Girls Club.

[Clay Aiken]

I'm free for Jersey Shore love and hip hop. I'm free all day Survivor. I'm free all night.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

With hundreds of free reality shows, you are totally free to watch what you love on Pluto tv.

[Clay Aiken]

Pluto TV Stream now. Hey Never.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Brandy Roderick]

From Corolla One Studios In Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today, Clay Aiken. And model, actress Brandi Roderick. Plus the news and trending topics with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now he likes masturbation like Memphis likes barbecue. Dry rub. Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, get it on. Got to get on the treasure mandate. Get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Love that about you. Mayhem Miller sitting in. Clay Aiken back in the studio. Always good to see Clay.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Good to be here. Especially whenever there's a masturbation joke.

[Adam Carolla]

I always feel right at home. Oh, you're here.

[Brandon]

You're in it. The thick of it.

[Adam Carolla]

From your mouth to God's ears. Christmas Bells Are Ringing is the name of the album. It's available right now. You find finer music and even mediocre music. It's all there. Clay's got a beautiful voice.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's the category it's in, actually.

[Brandon]

No way to this. Not a Clay Aiken.

[Adam Carolla]

Lots of standards, lots of good stuff. Lots of how, you know, here's the thing about the holidays for me, whether it's the songs or the food, I like the old school. I don't want raisins in everything. I don't want poached salmon. Fine. Just not now. I don't want the new take on everything for this one couple of days out of the year. Let's just kick it old school.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

What would you do if I told you that everything was brand new and remade? It'd be sort of uncomfortable in here right now, wouldn't it?

[Brandon]

Maybe.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's all. It's the standards, it's the stuff you grew up with, the stuff, you know.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And it's all done that way. That's what we did on purpose. I mean, I. I think Christmas is about familiarity, being with people who, you know, who you love and nostalgia and so everything on this album is something somebody knows. And we produced it sort of like a 60s, 50s and 60s and 70s old. Perry Como, Andy Williams, Carpenter's sort of Christmas album. That was the goal.

[Adam Carolla]

Are you doing lots of dates these days?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I have not done any actually, in a while. I went out on the road with Reuben Studdard last year for our 20th anniversary from Idol.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. But I have not done anything by myself since. Actually, I haven't toured by myself since you and I did that lovely show together. I stopped doing it and went into that whole political nonsense, and so I'm gonna.

[Adam Carolla]

You ran for office?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I'm gonna tour with this next year.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So we did Celebrity Apprentice. I don't know enough about American Idol to know if you got jobbed or not on American Idol, but you did get jobbed in Celebrity Apprentice in that you were the most person that was.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

There, but which was a low bar. Adam.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it was. Look, okay, here's the thing. I got many thoughts, but one is it's hard to quantify singing. It's really hard. Some people are really good at it. But it's still hard to say what you prefer over what someone else prefers. But when we did the final task for Celebrity Apprentice, you amassed more points than Arsenio hall did. So that's quantifiable. And that's kind of the part that's confusing to me. It's like, all right, comes down to you two. Arsenio and you. And now it's the final task, and you end up with 839, and he has 424. And I'm like, all right, well, you scored higher on the final test, so now you win. But you didn't.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But I also didn't have my own talk show coming out in a few weeks for our boss to be able to take credit for. Right. Not an Arsenio issue. Good for him. He's got a show. But I think our boss on that show wanted to be able to take credit for the successes of anyone in the future, and I didn't have anything to take credit for.

[Adam Carolla]

So Trump wanted credit for Arsenio, who was coming back to late night back then.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I think takes a lot of mental yoga to get there.

[Adam Carolla]

But.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But, yeah, you know, it worked for him.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I was on Arsenio's team, but you were clearly a standout in that show, and you can't really fake that show. Cause it's hard work.

[Brandon]

I didn't see it. What was the excuse that they used to give him the.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You don't need an excuse. Don't you realize that they don't need. Excuse me.

[Brandon]

Reality TV is not real.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. I don't know how they. How much politics or how much whatever. You know, what do they think? I don't know. Whatever it is, you were better than Arsenio, even though I was on Arsenio's team.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, I appreciate that, but you know what? I've gotten so used to losing things now, I don't even.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Good for you.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm a professional loser.

[Adam Carolla]

I remember my dad pulled me aside when I was young. He said, son, just get used to losing.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It works for me. America's number one. Number two. That's what I said.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. Treated like number two all over the country. But Clay had his Claymates. I remember us going out, doing tasks, being in the bus, and the Claymates out there jumping up and down, shouting your name.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And they worked for us, too. They got those folks into that party we had to throw.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, they were very. And they're still around. They're still around. We're hoping there are more of them. This is the first album I've done and 15 years. So I need them to learn how to stream because last time I did an album, there was no streaming.

[Adam Carolla]

People were out buying CDs, right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes, they were buying CDs, or you would buy the 99 cent thing from iTunes. You could download a song at a time. Oh, you could, but there was no streaming.

[Adam Carolla]

None of that for you singing was that. It seems like a gift, you realize pretty early. Early. But I mean, it's. If you talk to any comedian who does impressions, they will tell you when they were seven, they were doing their homeroom teacher and whoever they saw on TV or whatever it is, singing feels early.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I think. I think it's probably just that I would sing. I liked it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

When I was young, I wanted to. Whether I was in. I don't think at 6, you're any good at it necessarily. You just like it.

[Adam Carolla]

Nobody knows they're going to make a living doing anything in prayer or singing. They just find themselves doing it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So that. That what was like for you growing up?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Pretty much. And I wanted to do it. I think my mom thought I was good, so she pushed me to do it more. And I had teachers who wanted me to, but I didn't have any plans to do it for a career. I mean, I guess I did a little bit because when I was early in high school, I thought, oh, I'm gonna be a singer so I can flunk everything. It doesn't matter. And I did. I flunked it all. But I then realized I'm not. It's not in me to want to push hard to knock on doors and become a. Please make my album for me or please listen to me sing it. I didn't have that. So I never would have done this had it not been for Idol and the fact that I was able to walk in, make do my audition, and then everything happened for me. I didn't have to. I don't have to work very hard for it, which is nice, but it's.

[Brandon]

Kind of A testament to your talent. Like, you have a lot of natural self.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Let's go with it. Let's go with it.

[Brandon]

It seems like it, right? Because you were a standout on that show super early on, where everybody kind of got behind you. Song selection, as I remember.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, sure. I also think I just looked weird, and they did that whole makeover on me, and so it was shocking that I came in looking this weird and left only looking slightly less weird. And so I think that brought some of the boy next door type of thing to it. I mean, I always thought that everybody who was on the show with me was just as good. I was scared every single week. So I still. Like you were saying, Adam, you can't quantify it. It's subjective. You like what you like. I thought I did fine, but I might have voted for somebody besides myself. I don't know.

[Brandon]

What's your favorite Christmas song to sing?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, gosh. Well, I'm gonna say Merry Christmas, darling, because it's on this album, and it is my favorite song from this album. I loved the Carpenters growing up. I'm sure that you love the Carpenters, don't you, Adam? Probably not. Well, the Carpenters.

[Adam Carolla]

No, the Carpenters. Okay, let's see if we can. Let's bring the wheat from the chaff here for a second. There's certain things in our society, because I was a carpenter, ironically, you know, construction site, played football, boxed and stuff. People think I'm like, Mr. Blue Collar, you know, macho man, you know? But the reality is you're wearing a.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Skirt underneath the table right now.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. You know, there was a book. There was a famous book from the 70s called Real Men Don't Eat Quiche. It was a national bestseller. It was a huge book. Back when books could kind of become phenomenons, like TV shows, we weren't swamped and inundated, and we didn't have thousands of titles to choose from. It was a big book. You can look it up, Joe. It was called Real Men Don't Eat Quiche. And it kind of caught on, like, yeah, real men don't eat quiche. Well, I'm like eggs and bacon and cheese in a pie crust. I fucking love pie. I love eggs. I love bacon and ham and cheese. Who says this? And they'd go, come on. And, like. And maybe I would order quiche, and people go, hey, Mr. Rough and Double. I'd go, I like quiche.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But still, he's a name.

[Adam Carolla]

Somebody just name somebody decided something like real dudes didn't like the Carpenters, you know, Karen Carpenter had the voice of an angel. Ridiculous angel. Amazing. The stuff. Her brother arranged this stuff amazingly. This stuff was melodic and beautiful and so well put together.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

She did not eat quiche and abba.

[Adam Carolla]

She didn't eat anything. That's right. And ABBA was like, abba. ABBA and the Carpenters are people. Those are the groups we had to pretend we didn't like to get a little street cred for a while. But the reality is everyone's come around and they like them both. How many million. What year was only men eat quiche? And, like, how many units did it sell? But the point is, I boxed. I did swung a hammer, I rode a motorcycle. But I was not down with all the here's what you gotta like and here's what you don't.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And you did it all while listening to Karen Carpenter's thing, apparently.

[Adam Carolla]

I loved her. I love their pop stuff. And again, yeah, when you're 23, you're probably not bragging about how much you love the Carpenters, but there's that scene.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

In Tommy Boy, right? Remember the movie Tommy Boy where they're going down the. Going down the road and they're trying to pick what they want to listen to on the radio, and all of a sudden it comes on long ago. You can change it if you want to. And then in the next scene, they smash cut to both of them. Don't you remember you told me everybody loved that? Everybody loved that.

[Adam Carolla]

The book was on the New York Times bestsel seller list for 55 weeks.

[Brandon]

Damn.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, crap.

[Adam Carolla]

In 1982, it is a popular. That's a popular book to be over a year. Wait a minute. Yeah. No, yeah, that's right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

55 is 50. Yeah. There's 52 weeks, right? You got it.

[Adam Carolla]

Sorry, took a sec.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Real men don't do math.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, but speaking of that, it's been brought before because you said you ran into Lou Ferrigno, who was on our season of Celebrity Apprentice. All right, so if you would have said to me, and this will circle back to our sort of appearances versus reality, said, all right, you're going in Celebrity Apprentice. Who do you want on your team? You want the Incredible Hulk or you want the gay guy from American Idol? I would go, I'm taking the Hulk, man. I grew up watching that dude. You know much that guy can squat. Lou turned out to be soft. Soft, big fella, but soft. And clay turned out to be tough. And so who can tell by the COVID that has quiche on it, you know what I mean?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I had a quiche cover.

[Adam Carolla]

Clay has a quiche cover, but Lou has a quiche inner filling and he's.

[Brandon]

Got to crack the crust.

[Adam Carolla]

He was soft. He was like a soft guy. He complained a lot. He was kind of a whiner. He wasn't really a team guy. And. And Clay was just balls to the wall, get it done, crack the whip, expect more from yourself than others. And I just said, this guy's a winner.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, and you were wrong. But that was wrong.

[Adam Carolla]

But second place. So now let's get back to the creative ability, the gift, which is that thing, your voice. For me, it was a sense of humor, but sort of like you lacking the intention to sort of push it out. Like, hey, everyone, listen to me. Give me that mic. You know, like sort of hanging back on. Don't bother the people with your words or with your song or whatever it is you had that. You grew up that way.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, either that or I grew up lazy and I just didn't want to have to do the work for it. I think a little of both. I don't feel like singing is something I worked for. You know what I mean? I appreciate that I can do it. I'm grateful that it's provided a living for me. But, you know, I. Folks who are athletic and have a great talent at any sort of sport, all the Olympians, they've really practiced that they've worked for, that they've. They've put in the time. And for me, I. Maybe I have survivors, guilt. A little bit of the fact that, yeah, I got lucky. I was able to sing. When I started trying to sing came from maybe genetics. I don't know how it got there, but I think probably a little bit of that. I know, I remember when I was in high school, I would. And probably still today I won't sing around people in New York in the apartment. I don't sing because I'm afraid the neighbors might hear it. And they didn't pay for a ticket. No. And they. And I feel like I do. I sound like I'm showing off. I don't even when I sing Happy birthday to people, Happy birthday to you, I sing it kind of with everyone else.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, this is an interesting story, but maybe it's good old fashioned low self esteem.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Could be.

[Adam Carolla]

Now you tell me if this is a low self esteem move or you can identify with this. I hadn't thought about this in a million years, but million years ago I had to have wrist surgery on my Left hand, which. Well, you can see my fingers bent, but you can see my wrist sort of caved in here. Lots of issues from boxing and carpentry. And I had wrist surgery right around 24, 25 years ago. Okay. So when I had this wrist surgery, they gave me a splint. At first it was like in a cast or something. And then they gave me this splint with the thing, neoprene and the two pieces of velcro. And it was this brace had a, like sort of flat metal in it to protect my wrist. And I wore it. You know, I was always kind of fast and loose with the. Wear the splint or wear the brace or whatever. I'd do it for the first day or two, and then I was like, I feel fine. I don't even wear the brace. But I had the brace on. I had surgery my left hand. And then I had committed to the Kobe Bryant celebrity charity bowl off at the Studio City Kirkwood bowling or wherever it was. God, somebody can look it up, but I'm gonna say mid-90s. No, no, no. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go like, like, like, I don't know, November 99 or somewhere. October 99 or something.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Celebrity Bobby Bryant had something, had a celebrity bull off in the 90s.

[Adam Carolla]

99. I would shows you how much I know sports.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I didn't think he was pretty good till the O's.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no.

[Brandon]

He got more famous than the Oz.

[Adam Carolla]

He probably hit the league in the. Well, it's a good. What year was it? Anyway, so I show up and I'm left handed. I'm going to bowl left handed.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And that's the hurt hand and that's.

[Adam Carolla]

A hand with the brace. But the brace looked like a bowling brush.

[Brandon]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

It looked like I showed up with my bowling br ready to go. And I thought I was like, pro bowler dude is what I was. Yeah. Rookie year 96. So his celebrity bowling tournament. 99. I'm not that good at bowling, number one. But number two, it was a celebrity thing, charity thing. I don't think people showed up with their own equipment looking real serious. Right. So even though my wrist was fucked up and I probably shouldn't have been bowling, I took the brace off to bowl with because I didn't want people. I wouldn't be explained to everyone. I'm not taking bowling that seriously that I brought my own bowl.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Bowlers race, especially when you suck. Right. Because if you look like you showed up really prepared and you're bad, that's pretty awful.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. When you bowl at 89 and you show up with a wrist brace, you look like a colossal douchebag. Right. So even though I was at risk of damaging my own surgery, I took the brace off.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I would have done the same thing.

[Brandon]

Good.

[Adam Carolla]

Low self esteem.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't think it's low. I don't think that's low self. Well, is it? Maybe it is a little bit. I would have had the same thought that I would look stupid if I looked like I showed up prepared and I sucked at it.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I didn't necessarily suck at bowling. I was just not. I wouldn't. I would not.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

An 89.

[Adam Carolla]

I would say so. I was using low purboli.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Should. That should be a thing. Low purboli.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It is.

[Adam Carolla]

Now when you go low to exaggerate. No, I didn't bowl in 89. I bowled like a 140. You know what I mean? Or something. But nothing. Nothing that would accommodate or rationalize a.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Wrist brace or having your own. Having ball or any.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, dude.

[Brandon]

I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I'm going to celebrity bowling. I'm wearing the outfit. I'm getting a bowling ball. Are you any good inside? Hell, no. I'll be throwing that. I'll be.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, no, we don't. Everyone would be laughing at you.

[Brandon]

I don't care.

[Adam Carolla]

But here, look at my wrist. This is the interesting thing. When you talk to people who have high or normal self esteem, they go at a risk. A wrist injury. I was told to wear this brace. I don't care what you think.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Fair. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I have. I have a wrist issue. And that'll be. That'll be your issue. I don't care. You know, Dawson, that's what you would say, right?

[Brandy Roderick]

Yeah, I'm sorry. I was messing with Mayhem's mic. I checked out for a second.

[Adam Carolla]

Would you wear the. Would you wear the wrist brace?

[Brandy Roderick]

No, I'd feel like. I'd feel exactly like you would.

[Brandon]

Oh, man.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. Yeah.

[Brandon]

You're missing an opportunity to cosplay as a pro bowler.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Brandy Roderick]

You're talking to a guy who plays golf barefoot.

[Brandon]

Nice.

[Brandy Roderick]

I don't. I don't want to look like I have the right equipment.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, so intentionally. You want to look like you don't know what you're doing and then.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Hustling them.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. It'd be an interesting thing to get a survey going. Like, now, listen, I got wrist surgery. I'm not supposed to be bowling, but I'm certainly not supposed to be bowling. Without a brace.

[Brandy Roderick]

I'm sorry, I'm going to take this back. I would be really more concerned about my hand than about other people's feelings.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I'm saying.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I guess that is the difference.

[Brandy Roderick]

I would definitely wear it.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I'm saying.

[Brandy Roderick]

Possibly put on long sleeves.

[Brandon]

Nice.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. But still see it poking through.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But folks who have low self esteem just don't care what other people think. Right. They feel comfortable enough with themselves. So maybe.

[Adam Carolla]

No, wait, that's high self esteem.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

High self esteem. Sorry, sorry. If they have. If you have high self esteem, you don't care what other people are thinking and you not the fact that you even considered what will people think about this brace would be a low self esteem.

[Brandon]

I go to the other side.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I would have done it.

[Brandon]

So I want them to laugh.

[Brandy Roderick]

Yeah, laugh.

[Brandon]

Go ahead and laugh. I'm going to try my best though.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. But I don't have low self esteem when it comes to singing.

[Adam Carolla]

No.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Just everything else.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's also. It doesn't mean that you don't own the things you're good at. I think people think like aw shucks, aw shucks. I go, no, I'm a really good carpenter. You should ask me if you're building something. I'll tell you how to build it. I know how to do that. I own it. I'm realistic. I just knew there was no way for me to explain to everybody in that bowling alley what I was doing with this wrist brace.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

In that scenario, I would probably do the same thing. I think my issue with wanting to sing too much, I see Especially in the last 20 years since I've been in this entertainment business or politics, both are about the same. So many people who talk themselves up and then just cannot live up to the, you know, the hype that they build. You know, I just was just at a thing the other day in Hollywood full of a bunch of folks who are minglers and they're all talking big about what their next project is or what I'm working on or this. That whole kind. I hate that. And so doing anything, I never talk, I never involve myself in those conversations because I don't want to say, well, this is what my next project is. And this is what. I just. I find that disgusting. All the. It feels very braggadocious to me to hear people do that type of thing. And so I don't do it. And I feel like unless you've asked me to sing, then I don't need to sing around You. Unless you. I also don't go up to people like I've gone to. I've been to plenty of award shows and I'll see someone who I admire and really love. I won't go up and introduce myself to them because I feel like, well, if they wanted to meet me, then they would like. I don't want to assume that you want to meet me.

[Brandon]

Well, it's a few bars from the new album.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

See, you're asking on purpose. Right, But I don't. But you understand what I'm saying. I don't like to. I don't like to share all my business like I'm bragging.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, yeah, but in this town, you.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Have to, don't you?

[Brandon]

Yeah, bud.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I suck at it. That's what.

[Adam Carolla]

I live here, got a schmooze. You have to have a little hype, man, as well as the talent, you.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Know, that's why you hire them.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I guess I'm like you. I don't have that. But it's an important component because there's lots of people who can sing and lots of people who can tell jokes and lots of people who can bowl. And a certain point, you're going to need somebody with a bullhorn in your corner.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You're absolutely right. And that's maybe why I stepped away for so long.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. No, I like. Listen, I like the low. The mid to low self esteem. That's why I love Dr. Drew so much.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I think mid, mid to low is a good place. Low is bad.

[Adam Carolla]

It's good for society.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And high is just nauseating, but also.

[Adam Carolla]

Part of what you're saying. Is there anything on the Internet to Kobe's 1999? We need to see a picture of him. 1999, the Kobe Bowl. There's no pictures of you attending there, but there is a couple of him and Tyrese. Him and Kirk Rambis.

[Brandon]

Tyrese.

[Adam Carolla]

It was a thing. Kobe Bowl, 1999. Does it say the month in it or like at the end of the. Whatever. But Kobe bowl is what I want. Yeah. Also sounds like something you might order if you're on the low carb diet. Yeah. You're trying to stay keto at the Japanese steakhouse. I'm the Kobe bowl with the side of Tyrese sauce. You got Tyrese dipping. Kobe ball with the side. Put the Tyrese on the side. I don't like when they slop it all over the top. Gets gooey. Tyrese sounds like a good dipping sauce, doesn't it?

[Brandon]

Yeah, definitely does.

[Adam Carolla]

At the Kobe bowl. At the Japanese place. But there's also this part of it as well, which is you have to know that when people are talking up their bullshit projects, how it sounds to people that have been around a little bit. And I never get it, we all have that friend who's a personal trainer, but once every three years, for the last 13 years, he's been explaining he's coming out the country album, and you're like, you have to know what that sounds like to me. You know what I mean? You've said that to me for 15. You have to know what that sounds like to me. Not sitting next to a stranger at a Starbucks. And I think. I think for me.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But people are fine with it in this city.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, but they're thinking, oh, God, give me a break. And I don't ever want to do it themselves. I know, but do you want people. You know. Okay, it's a weird example, but, I mean, it's like anyone who's been dropped or left by a lover or girlfriend, a boyfriend, whatever the case, and then they start talking. They start some point, someone goes, they've met somebody else, they're dating someone else, and then you go, God, that guy. Such a. I hate that guy's dick is so small. And it's like. It just sounds. Sounds like sour. It sounds like sour grapes. It sounds weak. You know what I mean? If you say, good, I'm glad they've moved on. I wish them well, then you sound like you've risen above it. And when you start digging into the other person, then it just sounds like you're still hurt and it's sour grapes. And whoever wants to come across that way.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

People who are comfortable with themselves don't tend to do that. Right?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I mean, I think, going back to that. This gathering I was in, Meryl Streep wouldn't walk in and tell everybody what her name.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

People are happy and comfortable with where they are. Don't feel the need to do that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So I don't. Even though I might feel the need to. I don't do it specifically because I don't want people to think that I.

[Brandon]

You tell me you don't bust in the door and go, don't you know who I am?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No. No. Because I think to myself, what would Meryl Streep do?

[Brandon]

Nice.

[Adam Carolla]

Now, I think if I was really good at the piano and there was a Christmas party and there was a Steinway sitting there. Oh, and I had a couple of drinks, I might sit down at It. But I would prefer to be asked to do it right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I would absolutely want to be asked, but some people. So my brother in law, he's my son's mom's brother, David Foster. He is one of those.

[Adam Carolla]

Hold on. Your son's.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

My son's mother is David Foster's sister.

[Adam Carolla]

I still can't.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's not that. Whose cousin? We'll draw you a map.

[Brandon]

Nephew. Somewhere.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait, you're married, right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

No. You were married.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I wasn't.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, but you adopted.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Nope.

[Adam Carolla]

You surrogate.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, my gosh. We're gonna have to do a minute chart. Ivf. No ivf. She's one of my best friends. She was the executive producer for my third and fourth albums. And she had no children. And I had no children. She wasn't married. I wasn't married. But we both wanted kids and so we agreed. We decided to do it together. But her brother is David Foster, and he's one of those folks who, when he sees a piano, he just jumps right to it. Now, if you're David Foster, you can assume everybody does probably want to hear you play piano because you're David Foster. You wrote all the songs that we all love. I guess maybe if I had won 15 Grammys, I would be perfectly happy to stand up and assume people wanted to hear me sing. But I haven't.

[Adam Carolla]

Her older brother, I'm assuming. Right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

We're stuck on that. Yes. Her older brother. Brother. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Because he's. I mean, I know I'm doing the. How old is your son?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He's 16 now.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, it's been a minute. I'm still trying to do the math, but yeah, David Foster's written all.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Although David has a son younger than.

[Adam Carolla]

My son because he married from American.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Another. Another runner up.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, another runner up.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

My. My son has an aunt that was a runner up on American Idol and a dad.

[Brandon]

Silver Metal Club. Yeah, I get it. Silver. Yeah, that's fine.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. David Foster, 75. Okay, sorry. So we would want him to do it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, obviously. I mean, he's. Yes, but my point is, he's like what you were saying. The alternative he expects. So if I'm at a dinner party that he jumps up to the piano and he starts playing, I'm singing whether I want to or not.

[Brandon]

Because I gotta tell you, I'm pretty mad that you haven't sang anything thus far.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I sang a little bit of Superstar a minute ago. Remember when we were doing the comedy Boy, you did.

[Brandon]

Happy Birthday.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Happy Birthday.

[Brandon]

That was garbage.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He expected in his argument is if you have it, you should share it. And I get that, but some people don't want to be shared on, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's all about the quality of what you're sharing and reading the room.

[Brandon]

All right, how about this? I know this may be stepping into some weird area, but you're from the South.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yep.

[Brandon]

Gay guy. Okay. Would your self esteem be through the freaking roof if you were raised in San Francisco? Could you ever think that in another planet you were raised San Francisco, and then you just be, like, totally confident you'd in your own area.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I see what you're saying.

[Brandon]

You get what?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I see what you're saying?

[Brandon]

Because I grew up in the south, too, and anybody who was different was kind of pushed to the. To the margins. And I. And something I think about a lot, and it's kind of. It pushed me because I was a weird kid. So it pushed me into different areas myself. But, you know, I'm just saying.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I mean, I totally understand what you're saying. I don't know that the gay in the south thing versus San Francisco would have made that much of a difference. Only because that whole homophobia thing is more nationalized.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. So where you're from, and I know. I know people who. I know people who are on Broadway right now, dancing in a show on Broadway who are not out. And you think if there's a place you can be out, it's as a dancer on Broadway. So it's always a personal thing, and you don't know what's going on through. I mean, certainly, are there things that are in my childhood that might have made my. Sure. Cause everyone's broken somehow.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, some. There are things that are sort of. Of regional, though, in terms of, like, I got a guy I work with all time, Mike August. He spent a lot of time in Louisiana. And I grew up in Southern California in the San Fernando Valley. And anytime race comes up, I'm like, come on, who cares? And he's like, oh, no, my high school is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I'm from North Hollywood. There wasn't a thing. There wasn't a thing to it because it's a SoCal different vibe.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But I would. I mean, I would argue. And I'm from Raleigh, so it's not like I'm from, you know, the bayou.

[Brandon]

I'm from Fayetteville.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Okay, well, that's. Fayetteville's a little rougher than Ronnie Fairly, but. But I grew up in a relatively progressive area. I don't I think I just didn't know about it in the country. Listen, I think that. I think the south gets a bad rap. Obviously, historically, we did some shit we shouldn't have been doing and we behaved in ways we shouldn't have been. But I find that even if you're not talking institutionally, people in the south feel about the same way as you just mentioned.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I do. I'm talking about growing up. Oh, well, growing up, that's what kind of we were talking about. Not modern gay.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, last time I was here, we talked about me not even knowing what gay was. That was the only difference. When I was growing up in the 90s, I had heard the word gay. I'd probably been called the word gay, but I wasn't 100% sure what it meant. Maybe it means sissy ish. Maybe it means. But I didn't understand what being gay was until probably after high school because I just wasn't around it. That would be a difference in San Francisco. I probably would have known what it meant before I did.

[Brandon]

And then you could inhabit who you were and be more at ease, you know, and then have more self confidence. I don't know. This is just my theory. I'm thinking out loud here maybe, but.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, well, I. Let's. Sorry for jumping in, but like, I got on the show, I got twins. I got twins. I got boy, girl, twins. My son is low key, detuned, you know, aw, shucks. And my daughters kick in the front door, start. What about me? What's going on? Negotiating, battling, Totally different. It's not. He got raised like that and she got. She's got an inner metronome that's just boom, boom, boom. He's like laid back, chillax. It's just who he is.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's fascinating to me.

[Adam Carolla]

And a lot of that is who, just who you are.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It absolutely is. And I'll say the fascinating thing for me is raising. So my son is 16 and I never talk about him, but I know you, so I'll do it. I'll trust Adam. I, you know, he's straight. While he was younger, who knew, you know, whatever. But when he was younger, the similarities between him and myself, just all day, everything he did was like, yep, I did it that way, I handled it that way. All of it was the same. Once he hit puberty, I could start seeing a little bit of divergence, you know, he will handle. Still does plenty of things the way I would, but he handles conflict differently than I do. He behaves when he's angry differently than I do. And I can honestly see the. Oh, that's where the gay and the straight separate. So the way he was raised obviously has nothing to do with his sexual orientation. But it's just been interesting to me to see what is nature versus what is nurture. Because so much of him is nature. We have similar expressions. He tries to get out of doing homework the same way I did that kind of thing. But. But clearly the way he handles certain situations are things that are honestly foreign to me. You know, if there's, if we're in an argument, I want to fight it out. He will kind of get quiet and walk away. And that's definitely the straight guy in him. You know, that's not something I would do. So there. It's interesting. It's been fascinating for me to see what you were just talking about in my own life.

[Brandon]

And don't discount his mother's genetics too. Oh, well, very interesting thing.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you know, nurture, as far as our society goes, you can sell a lot of books with nurture because you can tell people how to be a parent and do that and discuss that, you know, nature, there's no commerce to nature, you know, and even, you know, there's. Look, I'm not, you know, I don't know, RK Jr. Dr. Spock, but I just mean between therapy and pharmaceuticals and self help books and seminars and stuff, there's a lot of money in terms of nurture. Nature's is like, sorry, that's who you are. You know, it's like your height or your eye color just is what it is.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, for now, there's no telling what you'll make eventually.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, right. So, but, but in nurture also, there's no nature experts. There's lots of nurture experts. Oprah has master fortune sort of telling you, here's how to do it and here's how to treat it and here's what works and here's what doesn't work. We have an author on who wrote a book about something. Something. Nature is much more powerful and it seldom discussed and it doesn't even. And it's not as attractive as nurture. But as soon as you have twins, you just step back and you see it's all that because we, as humans.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

We want to be able to control everything, right? And you can't control nature. So let's not talk about it. So we assume, I mean, just like the homophobia thing, people thinking you can change, that you can't. But we don't understand Things that we can't control. So it is fascinating. I can only imagine it's even more so with twins.

[Brandon]

But.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But it's fascinating to be able, as a parent to look and see, wow, that has nothing to do with anything I did. Where the hell did that come from? It obviously was nature.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, twins, and especially if you have boy, girl twins, you really could see the difference between women and men and how they react.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Wait, you're saying they're different?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I know we've been spending a lot of time and it's been longer than people think because I'm older than you guys. And I had a mom who was progressing and she used to float that. You know, if you give a young girl a pop gun, she'll play with it. And if you give a young boy a dolly. No, that's their. My son. Here's how much my son protested once. And he's not even a loud guy. But there are two. I think there were two events. One was we took him and her to the feast of San Gennaro, a feast that Jimmy and I started years ago in la. Italian feast. And the way the car was parked and whatever was going on, he was asked or forced to sit in her pink car seat for the ride home because the other blue seat was not in the car. And there was just him or whatever it was. He had a ride in her seat and it's a pink car seat with ponies on it. And he was two and a half. And he threw a fucking fit. Like he fucking hated it. He couldn't stand it. And then. And he's not duty at all. But he didn't play football in high school. He doesn't fight like he's laid back, but he's like. And he was 2 and it like kicked in hard. And then later on we were out of his like Captain America pull up diapers or whatever and he had to use his sister's princess pony. Pink pull up diapers. It was a total. It was like trying to land a marlin onto a gaff of marlin onto a fishing boat. It was like struggle, flailing, punches being thrown. And I was like, who cares? What do you even. I was like, oh, it's strong.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And too young to have been taught that either. Like just naturally.

[Adam Carolla]

No, he didn't get it from. You know, he used to hang out at this dive bar and there was a lot of merchant marines and they talked a pretty good story. And by the way, he was raised by his mom and his nanny and sort of me Half. I was traveling around, you know, I didn't poison his brain. No one cared. No one said anything about, here's what boys do and here's what girls do.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

My kid immediately wanted trucks and, you know, handyman stuff. And we made an effort to not have a preference for anything. You do what you wanted. I mean, that's not to say gravity. I know little boys who like pink. That's their favorite color. That doesn't mean they're gonna be gay, obviously. But there is something that we. I mean, we all have passions, things that we are interested in that have no one taught us to be interested in. Most of the things that we fall in love with or want to do. By the time we're, you know, adolescents and we're figuring out what we want to do with our lives, we're not taught, you must want to be this for a living or you must want to be that. We just stumble onto it and realize, wow, I love that. I enjoy it.

[Brandon]

So you said you didn't really know what gay was till you get out of high school. But what we're looking back, the signs that you're like, oh.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, God. The signs. Nonstop, some of them. When I was in second grade, I wanted. Every time the class would go to the bathroom, I wanted. I won't say this person's name because I'm still friends. This person knows this, but I don't want to put him on blast. But we're in second grade, and I wanted Bob to pick me up, to lift me. I would be like. I would be. I would challenge. You can't pick me up. You can't pick me up. And he would be like, yes, I can. He'd pick me up. We're in second grade. Nothing about it. Nothing about it sexual whatsoever. I wouldn't even know what that meant. But there was. Oh, there's plenty of strong man's hands I rigged. Now, this is a horrible thing. I was. When I was in high school, I was in charge of the homecoming dance type thing, like the homecoming court, and I was in charge of counting the votes. And I. Oh, God, I could crush somebody's dream.

[Brandy Roderick]

Rig the election.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I rigged the election. I counted it because I wanted the person who won. I didn't have a crush on him because I didn't know what that meant, but I wanted to be around him more. And I knew that if he was the king of the homecoming dance, I would be the person who was working with him. And so I rigged it so that.

[Brandon]

He would storming the Auditorium.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So he's listening today, going, wait a second.

[Adam Carolla]

He got win. He got less votes?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't know. I didn't even count that shit.

[Brandon]

Didn't even count it.

[Adam Carolla]

Rigged the Clay Aike.

[Brandon]

Oh, my God. Clay Aiken rigged the election.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

If I could rig elections, I wouldn't be losing so damn much, believe me.

[Adam Carolla]

Clay, ever think that the fickle finger fate has repaid you?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes, maybe so.

[Adam Carolla]

Ringing that election all those years back, I can't even.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I can't even remember who else was nominated or up for a vote. So I may have got sliding doors. That may have happened there.

[Adam Carolla]

Maybe karma came back.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Probably. You know what? I deserve it. I deserve it.

[Brandon]

Get a Facebook message about this.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So you ask, what was the reasoning behind me losing Apprentice? Now we know. Now we know.

[Adam Carolla]

So we got the standards here with Christmas Bells Are Ringing with Clazam and. Which is fine. That's all I want. I want the old school. I want the old school fair. I want the old school songs. I don't like modern decorations. I don't want anything. I don't like when people say holiday party. I like Christmas. I'm just old school that way. But I started thinking songs I didn't need to hear. And John Lennon's so this Is Christmas drives me nuts. Because it's an intentionally. It's an intentional bummer song. It's there to go, you guys enjoying your figgy pudding while others go to bed hungry. And it's like, okay, I know everyone worships and adores John Lennon. I hate that guy. He's a blow hard. He's a fucking bummer. And he drives me nuts. And this is a perfect example, because there were 150 fantastic Christmas songs before John Lennon decided he needed to bum everyone out with his shitty brand of Christ. It's not even a good Christmas song anyway, and it should be rejected. I'm tired of hearing it pop up in between the standards on the Sirius XM station. Reject it. It's a bad song in general. He's a shit singer in general. And the message is counter Christmas. So let's just pull it out of the jukebox and throw it in the dustbin of history. I do not want to hear this fucking. Where is this song, Joe?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You're gonna play it now.

[Brandon]

Oh, you're gonna piss it.

[Adam Carolla]

We're gonna play it.

[Brandon]

Piss this guy off some more.

[Adam Carolla]

It's made me angry. But, Dawson, if I'm yelling about something long enough, you can reach for the computer is what I'm saying. I know you're mesmerized by my words, but there's a good chance we may hear it at some point as well. With your good rest, by the way. So this is Christmas, and what happens? Have you done another year over? It's also kind of a sea shanty.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, well, I don't. I'm not a fan of depressing, sad Christmas songs either.

[Adam Carolla]

Good. It's. It's like. It's so. It's like there's a little window for us just to raise a little eggnog and put our feet up and not beat ourselves up, but just kind of enjoy our family.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And with this one.

[Adam Carolla]

No. Oh, not with this. No. That's Christmas. This. This dirge.

[Brandon]

This would be awesome if Yoko would just start screaming in the back of this.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, wait, Next. All right, pull it out.

[Brandon]

Done. I didn't know that was John Lennon until now.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Maybe I did.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you have to know his plan is to bum everyone out about everything.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's a sad thing that. It must be him. It's his fault.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he's the ultimate blowhard because he imagines a world where there's no borders and no possessions and no governments and no anything. And I'm. All right now. I've imagined a hoverboard, so. All right, go invent one, Jen. Because I came up with the idea first. It's like, all right, blowhard, right? But nothing you can't.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, you're still here and he's not, so you have that good. You can hang over.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I'm only mad at him because everyone I hate loves him. That's right.

[Brandon]

I realize I have that little jealousy there.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, everybody. Every blowhard on the planet worships John Lennon. If you are blowhard, you love John Lennon. That's how it works.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I feel like some of that stuff is not just that, but there's so much that's artistically, you're supposed to love, and people love it simply because they were told to.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Every music theory.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I love Hamilton. I thought it was great, but I don't know that I'm one of those people who thinks it was the greatest thing ever created. And people are, you know, the reviewers and I know people who go into the show and come out crying and they. Jizzing on the seats and everything, because they. And I thought. I don't even think you understood it, probably.

[Brandy Roderick]

That's a great Christmas song.

[Adam Carolla]

Chestnuts roasting on an open fire. Jack off, jizzing on the seats.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You don't need me to sing when you got Adam, too, you got me. I think John Lennon without the Beatles on his own was one of those. Is one of those things where people like it because they think they're so.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Brandon]

John Lennon is a Che Guevara T shirt.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Everyone thinks it's cool. Interesting. But it's not.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Very interesting metaphor.

[Adam Carolla]

Very interesting.

[Brandon]

Us cage fighters in our metaphors.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Yeah, No, I completely agree. Minus the Beatles. Just a bunch of sort of shitty songs. And that's hiding behind some sort of cloak of activism or something, which. Anyway, only idiots who write for Rolling Stone love John Lennon. I will tell every retard that writes for Rolling Stone magazine, I will tell you the bands you love, and then you will all agree. And this is when you have to question credibility. So I know that you love the Beastie Boys, I know that you love Prince, I know that you love Lou Reed, and I know that you love John Lennon. Now, what do any of those things have in common, sonically? Nothing. But I know who you know and who you love because you have to. And I just went through it with COVID I know who's an expert on Ivermectin and who thinks it's horse paste versus who versus. Nobody knows what Ivermectin is before they even say it. Yeah, like anyone knows what ivermectin is or whether it worked or not. I know how you come down on it, which I shouldn't know about you. That's what I'm saying. You're a music critic. I shouldn't.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's an.

[Adam Carolla]

You're a music critic. I shouldn't know what you like in advance. I know, but I don't want to know. I would like you to use your critique of music and enlightenment me. Instead of knowing how you're going to come down.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You're living in the wrong decade.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I know, but that's how I roll. Now, this brings me to Wicked.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I haven't seen it.

[Brandy Roderick]

What?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I haven't seen it yet.

[Adam Carolla]

Give me your gay card.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I know. Well, that's partially. Why is it in the car? Because it's digital now. I just show my phone. I just scan my phone. I haven't seen it because I did love the show on Broadway, and I always worry that something will be messed up, so I'll watch it when it comes.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, here's my problem now. It's like 96% on Rotten Tomatoes. Everyone's loving it. There's two people I talked to that saw it, and they're like, meh, I've talked to a couple of people who I trust in terms of film, and neither one was like that into it, but yet it's in the 90s on the critics and on the people on Rotten Tomatoes. Well, I didn't.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Cause you might have to. I mean, if you listen, if you say the wrong, you also, you don't just have to like the same things that everybody. You also have to hate the same things that everybody likes now. Right. Hates now. And so I imagine, I can only imagine what it's like to be a critic and dislike something that too many people like and you get attacked and oh my gosh, you lose your job.

[Adam Carolla]

100% agreed. I agree. And that's why I go to the audience score now to see if I can get the real skinny on it. And usually when it's something of a nature that you have to like, it'll be high with the critics, but the audience will have it a little more down to earth. Like you'll, you'll know a little more the odd.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

The audience likes this one, you're saying?

[Adam Carolla]

I'm saying it is equally as high with the audience.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, that's good. I mean, I don't. But I also hate the fact that they're doing it in two. Like, it's very, very cocky to believe that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Because it ends at the intermission. And then there's a new movie next year that's gonna have the other second half. And I feel like that's pretty cocky to believe that this one's gonna be so good that you're already planning the sequel.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I'm still waiting for Cats two.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, no you're not. No, you're not. Nobody wants to see I am. So I might wait until the second one comes out so I can see the whole thing in one sitting and just get it all done with. But it ends a little early for me.

[Adam Carolla]

It's funny talking about music. I just popped in my head, had my 18 year old daughter I had breakfast with on Sunday and she was telling me, I do like the kind of mouth of babes people now. Well, kids will give it to you straight. And also the community was kind of interesting because I was talking to my assistant and I said he'd done a lot of baking for the holidays and I said, how were the pies received at your home? And he said, very well. And I said, very well. Or people were being nice because, you know, I like to poke around. And he said, remember, my family has some mental issues. Family with some syndromes. And one thing you get. One thing you get with the syndromes is the truth, okay? Cause they don't know how to sugarcoat things that are sugarcoated. They go right to the truth. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's the way kids are, too. They don't fake it at 18, though.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Your daughter, who's 18, doesn't sugarcoat things.

[Adam Carolla]

She can, but she said this, so we're talking, and she goes, oh, I went to a couple of concerts. Who is the blonde chick who's doing the show? Sabrina something.

[Brandon]

Carpenter.

[Adam Carolla]

Carpenter. She went to the Sabrina Carpenter concert, right? And that chick's taking over, doing all her sexy lingerie and stuff. And she was like, it was a real good show, and she was real good. And she put on a big show. She didn't do a thing where she said she sung real well or played all the instruments. She didn't put on a real entertaining show, which is like, all right, that's what people do.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Kudos to the crew.

[Brandon]

She's a pop star.

[Adam Carolla]

Kudos to the crew. She's a pop star. Then she mentioned. I don't know if we can think of the guy's name, but she mentioned that she also saw a dj, you know, later on or before at the same venue, I think, you know, weeks later or whatever. She's DJ guy. I was a big DJ, and I don't like DJs, and so. Because I don't know what they do. You know what I mean?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And then they play other people's stuff, right? Makes it well.

[Adam Carolla]

So she goes, sabrina Carpenter's are real good. Like, she put on a big show. It was real entertaining. Blah, blah, blah. And then we went to Mike Mendez or something. I can't think of the guy's name. And I go, who's that? And he goes, he's a dj. And I go, oh. But I'm always kind of looking for what. What. What am I missing? You know what I mean? Like, why is stuff so huge? But I don't get it, you know what I mean? And I want to get it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I would love to get it, too. I would love to get it replicated.

[Adam Carolla]

No, they. Yeah, they do that thing where I go, this guy's got 200 billion views online, you know? And you go, what's he do? His kid unwraps toys, you know, and then reacts. And he goes, Go. 200 billion view. Let me see this. And then you watch it. And you're like, I don't know what the fuck this is. And then you're like, oh, there's nothing to get. It's just this.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I totally get it. Because everything is context and we all have our own individual algorithm. Back in the day, we all had abc, NBC, Fox. That was it. And so you had a channel to run all your head space through. Now we've all grown it. The Internet's old enough where you've all grown. The kids, I'm saying, have grown up with their own algorithmic channel fed into them, so. Just like you.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But why don't they all. But why are they all getting Sabrina Carpenter?

[Brandon]

Well, yeah, that is interesting. I don't know, because I know their channel, all their tick tock dances are coming from that I could say. I just see kids, they like some. I. I'm right there with you. Why is this popular?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't. Well, listen, I asked my kid, now, have you heard of such and such if I'm gonna do. Because I don't know what's popular at first.

[Brandon]

Our algorithm is different.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, because my algorithm's broken. I don't even know. I don't. I'm too old to get it.

[Brandon]

Mine just got boobs in it.

[Adam Carolla]

Joe, what popular DJ played out in Los Angeles too? I don't know if it's big, you know, I don't know if it was so stuck. John Summit. Yeah. Also played the Kia Forum just before Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah. John Summit. So I say to my. I never probably sold. He's playing the four, right? It's playing the form.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And so that's where Bruce Springsteen.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean? And so I go, so we're having three nights at the Forum. Three nights.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I think we're old.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I haven't even heard of them. Is there a song that he does?

[Brandon]

Yeah, yeah. Bump is number one. Good.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Which is a sample. Okay, so here's the point. She goes, I saw Sabrina Carpenter. I saw John Summit. I go, who's John Summit? He's a dj. I go, okay, now this is me trying to learn, you know. Did you enjoy the show? She goes, yeah, it was. It was fine. It was like, you know, music, there's more of a scene, you know, it was like a little less of a show. And I go, but what did he. What do you do? Like, what. What is this three nights sold out worth? Like, what is he doing? And she goes, well, he. She goes, he didn't really need to be there. I was like, oh, my kind of job.

[Brandon]

I like.

[Adam Carolla]

This is where we're at now. You didn't need to be There. And he's like, well, he could have just had someone pushed a button and then went home or not showed up at all. Right?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Because they. Because the DJs don't talk or anything. They just DJ.

[Adam Carolla]

He didn't need to be there.

[Brandon]

No, no.

[Adam Carolla]

Imagine me talking about Gordon Lightfoot back in the day. Gordon didn't need to be at the Gordon Lightfoot concert. Like, are you fucking nuts? That's insane. Now she said it. Mouth the babes. Like, she was like, we had a good time. You know, not really. It wasn't my idea to go, but you know, people had fun. He didn't need to be there, but it was fun. She wasn't like, I want my money back. She was just like, he didn't need to be there.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And I do wonder if you could tell the difference. I mean, I'm probably gonna get in trouble for this. Could you tell the difference between something DJ'd by that person versus another person?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, versus par. Look, you know, if I got that guy alone in a room, I'd go, listen, you got all the money in the world, you've got all accolades in the world. You stole money from my daughter. That's fine. You sold out to Kia for him three nights in a row. But you do understand Paris Hilton can do what you do.

[Brandon]

Well, no, I'm gonna argue you have.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

To have a little bit of respect for the fact that he pulled it off.

[Adam Carolla]

No, yeah, he did, he did.

[Brandon]

Here's the thing is a DJ now, it's a producer. Yeah, yeah. It's some guy who makes some tracks, then he takes all the buttons of his like individual clips of his song and then mixes those up for you that night. Depending on how things go to be.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Fair, for, for the decade prior to this.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

When DJs weren't big, they really should have gotten a lot more credit because you can think of do of artists who aren't great singers, but their tracks and their songs were so good. And I'd listen to him and think, that's not anything to do with that singer. That's 100%.

[Brandon]

I totally grew up in the rave culture. Like totally grew up in it. So at least the producer, I understand exactly what she's into. Because it's like this thing.

[Adam Carolla]

No, my daughter's not into it.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I get.

[Adam Carolla]

But at all her friends are though.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, but she spent money on that ticket.

[Brandon]

Yeah, yeah, she went to the Kia Forum.

[Adam Carolla]

She just went. Yeah, she went to go like, like cuz their friends were going, well, please.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

By all Means next time I do a concert, I'm going to make sure that her friends drag all the people they can along just to go.

[Adam Carolla]

What you think? What you think of my friend Clay? He didn't need to be there.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

There you go. That makes it even better.

[Adam Carolla]

We have him playing an orchestral version of his biggest hit. Well, what is his biggest hit, though, I guess is the question. Where you are? Do you have.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Where we recognize it when we hear it.

[Adam Carolla]

Do we have where you are, though, the album version you'd like to hear? So I would. Yeah, sure. Because this guy's playing the piano.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, he clearly needed to be.

[Brandon]

I know.

[Adam Carolla]

That's why I was. You know, it's from the show at the Forum. So he needed to be there to play the piano. That was. Hold on.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

She wasn't. Your daughter wouldn't pay attention for that moment when he was.

[Adam Carolla]

She was doing Molly in the bathroom.

[Brandon]

I didn't want to tell you. Yeah, I'm into this.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't recognize it.

[Adam Carolla]

No. That's his biggest hit, though.

[Brandon]

Give me my glow stick.

[Adam Carolla]

Selling 300.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Just out of curiosity, how many views are on that video?

[Adam Carolla]

His Spotify stream of that song has 168 million listeners. Me, you got DJ Clay Ains. Where's the eggnog? Yeah, See? How many hit. How many views has he got on YouTube? For more nutmeg on the eggnog, please.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I've not quite made it to that.

[Adam Carolla]

Hundred million mark, but he's in the high 90s, apparently.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You need to not be there in order to get that. I'll start not showing up.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so that. Well, as long as we're talking about music, I'm still angry at the Fugees because.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Why?

[Brandon]

Ooh na na na.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, because I was traveling and I heard no woman, no cry. The Marley, Bob Marley, and Fuji covered it. And then my young girlfriend went, oh, I like this song. And I'm like, it's the same. It's the exact same song with a drum machine behind it. And I don't appreciate that. And that's not a remake. If you want to do a version of that song, do a version of something. Do not do the exact same fucking song and put a drumbeat behind it. That's bullshit. It's a ripoff. So I ruin every road trip with that kind of discussion.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Did you play the original for.

[Adam Carolla]

No. But driving home recently, Killing Me Softly by Roberta Flack came on from the 70s channel. And then my young girlfriend went, what is this?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Why this Person covered the Fuji.

[Adam Carolla]

And I went, that is. Is the song that Fugees ripped off and put a drum beat behind. It's just a song that existed that someone else wrote that is as good or better than what you're doing, but you added a drum machine.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And she thought. And she thought that this person, that Roberta Flack, was covering the Fugees.

[Adam Carolla]

I imagine most people, when they hear the original version of the song they knew from the 90s or whatever, react with confusion, like, it's weird, the concept of somebody else wrote this song. Nobody told you. And I don't know why they don't. But anyway, wait, we have the Fugees or the. Robert.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's Roberta.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, is that Roberta?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, it's a live version. I don't know why the. The Internet always pulls the live one up first, but.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, listen, if she. See if that's live, she's flawless.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, flawless.

[Brandon]

Drum in my finger right now.

[Adam Carolla]

If you want to remake it, remake it. But don't do a replication of it and add a drum machine or just.

[Brandy Roderick]

Stand there and go, another one.

[Adam Carolla]

Another. Right now. You want to talk about a black RB singer from the 60s and Sam Cooke that had a remake of Another Saturday Night and I Ain't Got Nobody.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Wait, that was his song?

[Adam Carolla]

That was his song.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, you're about to tell me who remade it. Got it.

[Adam Carolla]

Cat Stevens.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Really?

[Brandon]

This guy knows all these history.

[Adam Carolla]

Stevens version of that song was a remake, but it was a total departure and, like a calypso remake. And that's fine because it was reimagine what that song could be.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, that.

[Adam Carolla]

Come on, Claire. That's your new music.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I don't know this. I don't know Cat. I didn't know Cat Stevens redid this. Oh, yeah, I did.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. You know?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, I did. Okay.

[Brandon]

I thought this was Jimmy Buffett.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm a Sam Cooke person, though. So if I was choosing a song, choosing to listen to Another Saturday Night, I choose.

[Adam Carolla]

Look, I like the Sam Cook version better, but I'm saying, if you're gonna do it, don't give us the exact same song. We already know. And somebody else did need three. That's all Fuji Suck because they have two hits. They're both remakes, and they're both. Both word for word and note for note. He said with a stupid drum machine.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

He says all of this as I'm promoting an album of Christmas songs.

[Brandy Roderick]

I was actually gonna say you didn't.

[Adam Carolla]

Put a drum machine.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You definitely did not put a drum machine on any of since we listened.

[Brandy Roderick]

To all this crappy music. Clay on the. On the new album Christmas Bells Are Ringing opens up the album with one of my favorite Christmas song of all.

[Adam Carolla]

Time, let's do it.

[Brandy Roderick]

And he mentions specifically that he kind of tried to model it after Andy Williams. This is the first time listening here, but let's see.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, God. Do I have to listen also?

[Brandon]

Yeah, come on.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Deal.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, I deal with it. Deal with it. Leave that wrist brace on.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

There'll be parties for hosting marshmallows for Toasty and Caroline out in the snow.

[Brandy Roderick]

Damn.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

There'll be scary ghost stories and tales of the glories of Christmases long, long ago. Why have terrible. It's the most.

[Brandon]

God, Clay, you're the bad, bro. I love it.

[Adam Carolla]

Where's that drum machine, though, bro?

[Brandon]

Drop that funky baseline.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's why I don't have 100 million listen yet. I need a drum machine. It's the hat.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. Already in a better mood. I was angry about the food you eat.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Whatever you do, don't play my cover of John Lennon's so this is Christmas.

[Brandon]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, now we're in a good mood. We can take a break. We'll do some news with Clay Mayhem right after this. Hey, I'm Adam Kroll. That's Brad Williams and Jay Leno. Hey, everybody over there. We're doing our third annual comedy fantasy camp. That's going to be January 23rd through the 26th. Right. In Hollywood, California. Where else would it be? These guys are going to be there. Remember, two out of every three comics make it big or one and a half. Do I get paid for this? Please tell me get paid for this. Go to comedyfantasycamp.com and get in on the fun. Yeah, Simplisafe. Right now, that's the best time of the year to get some home security. Simplisafe. Well, they're extending their Black Friday deal only for my listeners. Last chance to protect your home at Simplisafe's lowest prices of the year. We all use Simplisafe here. We've used them for years. Over a decade, they've been a sponsor. It's great because everything is modular. So if you move, you can pick up your system and leave and take it with you. That's simply safe. They have active guard. Outdoor protection. Changes the game by preventing crime before it happens. That's right. Let's not find the person in your house. Let's find them outside your house. If someone's lurking around acting Suspicious agents. See them in real time, talk to them directly. Set off the spotlight. Even called the police. No long term contracts and no big time fees. It's about a buck a day for the SimpleLife protection. It's SimpleSafe, right, Dawson?

[Brandy Roderick]

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[Brandy Roderick]

The Adam Carolla show presents Clay Aiken's birthday cocktail party for November 30th. Let's see who's invited. Let's welcome the iron Irish author and satirist who wrote Gulliver's Travels, Jonathan Swift. Here's the German physicist who first estimated the speed of sound, Ernst Schladny. See how fast that was. Here's American politician and rifle maker Oliver Winchester. The British prime minister during World War II is here. Let's welcome Winston Churchill. Let's welcome the first African American congresswoman, Shirley Chisholm. From First Blood, it's Richard Krenna. Dick Clark is here. NFL hall of Fame coach Bill Walsh just walked in. Here's filmmaker Woody Allen, alien director Ridley Scott. It's the bass player for Deep Purple, Roger Glover. American playwright David Mamet. Billy Idol just walked in. Here's NFL hall of Famer and MLB all star Bo Jackson. The governor of South Dakota, Christy Noem is here. Alicia Cuthbert is here. Here's Chrissy Teigen and Kaley Cuoco. And the American author of the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and the Adventures of Tom Sawyer, Mark Twain. Clay Aiken is on the Atomic Corolla show.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Pretty good list.

[Adam Carolla]

Todd Bridges from Different Strokes is the best celebrity on my list.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Really? And I have Winston Churchill and Mark Twain.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Todd Bridges is on this.

[Adam Carolla]

He's the highest.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I would say you're the highest.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, maybe me, but that's still very sad. Testimonial. Jesus Christ.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Lucky. Now, When's your birthday?

[Adam Carolla]

May 27th. I'm thinking about changing it, though.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You might want to.

[Adam Carolla]

What's yours?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

November 30th.

[Adam Carolla]

So I could move over.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You have to think about when these people were conceived. So around what time? For me, that would be like tax day.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, interesting.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So I would. So what would that make yours? Nine months prior to? I can't do math. So. We've already established that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I don't know. Maybe October.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Nobody has any real reason to be fucking in around that period of time, I guess.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, you're right. For me, it's a Halloween screw. Maybe. I guess. All right. You got some news? There May have some news.

[Brandon]

Hey. Women engage in a mass primal scream in wake of Trump victory. Release our pain, they say. Yeah, there's some remarkable footage from Wisconsin of women screaming in unison towards Lake.

[Adam Carolla]

Michigan in the wake of bicep. It's weird.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I thought it was in Michigan because they were yelling at Lake Michigan, but I guess you could do that.

[Brandon]

Yeah. Let's check this out. I haven't seen this.

[Adam Carolla]

They're just going round and round and round. There's probably some poor guy just out of frame trying to surf fish going, hey, bitches. Jesus Christ, you're scaring the carp away.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It's not as big a group as I expected it to be.

[Adam Carolla]

I thought it'd be a larger group.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Maybe that's why.

[Adam Carolla]

And it's only, by the way, there's three dudes there and they're all trying to get laid. They're not really down with the cost. That's how guys work.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Do you really think that they want it from that particular group of women, though?

[Adam Carolla]

It's a good point. It's not Occupy Wall Street. The dudes who showed up at Occupy Wall street were looking for chicks. This holds a special place in my heart because my mom met my stepdad at primal scream therapy. Yeah, I forgot I told you the stuff that you thought was new. Whatever you think is new, like 2024, it's all regurgitated from 1973. It's basically the Fugees and Roberta Flack. You know what I mean? It's just a rip off of what my mom was doing. All this shit before any of these people were born.

[Brandon]

Primal scream with the drum machine.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it was called ecology. Now it's called global warming or whatever we're calling it now. We'll call it something else in ten years from now. But it was called ecology. It was called the ecology movement. Not to bring it back to climate change. What I'm saying is climate change seems newish. Except for. Not to my mom. If. Because if you described climate change to her in 1972, she'd go, oh, ecology. Because they just called it something else.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But were they looking to solve the same? I mean, I remember in the 80s, there was the don't litter. I mean, there was this big thing about not littering. And. Yeah, so it was always about helping the Earth, but in different ways. This time it just happens to be. Don't drive cars or eat meat.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Back. So back then, it was like. Well, we do, like cows and cars, so we're not going there. And we don't really have, like, windmill technology and solar.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, I don't think they had thought about the cows and cars yet. And then they just recently have had to determine, what can we be upset about today?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, they kind of, you know, it's a good metaphor, whatever, because the cars really did pollute a lot. And then somebody said they came up with a catalytic converter and unleaded fuel. And now, like, look, when I was young, if somebody fired up a Pontiac in a parking garage, your eyes would start watering. Right? You fire up a Honda now in a park, there's nothing. You can walk through a busy parking structure. You don't smell it, you know, whatever. Because technology, we worked it out. Like, they got on it, they fixed it. But primal scream, what is that? Existed for a long time. It certainly did not fix my mom, that I can. I can tell you I was conceived early ish September. That's according to our.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, that's early ish September. That's a little. Sort of a boring time of year. There's no reason to be.

[Adam Carolla]

No doubt.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So that's why not many people were conceiving children then. And.

[Adam Carolla]

But the Bridges family had an idea. Well, they had a young star in mind.

[Brandon]

Back to school. Bang. A little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. So they're screaming at the lake.

[Brandon]

They're screaming at the lake. They say we are screaming in rage and we are screaming in pain, but we are screaming in unity and solidarity because we have a plan and a way forward.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Brandon]

Yeah, they're planning, screaming. Yeah, they're refused fascism members that. Yeah, they did a. They said they're screaming like a pack of wolves. We don't want to scream helplessly at the sky. Samantha Goldman explained. We want to scream like a pack of wolves to bring down the administration.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes, that'll do it. That'll do it. They're going to want to do much. They're going to need a few more than they had at that group.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

14 lesbians is not going to bring down the administration, to be fair.

[Brandon]

Next up, Belgian sex workers win maternity pay and pension rights in a world's first. This story is super interesting because they. They decriminalized, I guess, legalized sex work in Belgium. And so because of that, they has to be treated the same as any other employees and they have to get maternity pay and pension rights.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, I don't know that you'd want them to be working at eight months.

[Brandon]

I know some guys. That's a king. That's a thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Certain German tourists would Pay premium, twice the normal rate. Nature straight man.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But would they pay the same rate in the week after they had a pay? So maybe that's why you got. That's why you need him to go home, stay home for a little bit.

[Adam Carolla]

That's the Black Friday. Those are called door busters.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's exactly what happened.

[Adam Carolla]

That's when they. Everything's priced to move. No reasonable offer turned out.

[Brandon]

So it went a couple years. In 2022, sex work was decriminalized, but they had no protections or labor rights, such as unemployment benefits or health insurance. And now, under the law, sex workers have the right to refuse sexual partners or perform specific acts and can stop at any time, and nor can they be fired for any of those refusals.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So they're not working for themselves, they're working for a company.

[Brandon]

Yeah, employers must be of good character, quote, unquote. I don't know how a pimp has a good character, but. And with the business residents in Belgium, and they must also ensure their premises are equipped with panic buttons, clean linen showers, and condoms. So it's like workers rights here. It's interesting.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I know that's acceptable. You. You expect that there should be panic buttons and clean linens.

[Adam Carolla]

I would abuse the panic. Like, I would hit that panic button and be like, can I get a turkey sandwich up in here? Sir, you're not really the spirit of the. Well, my blood sugar's low. We're going for round three. So I don't know what you call that, but I'm in a little bit of a panic. So look, once you legalize something and you go, all right, here we are, like, we've agreed as a society to legalize something, then all of the benefits and all of the whatevers and fallbacks, like, okay, now you have to pay taxes. Now we have to have paid vacations. Now we need clean conditions or whatever. Whatever goes along with it just goes along with it. Once you agree as a society, whether it's legalizing pot or prostitution, once you go, we've agreed, then all the rest has to come, man.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I think it's a good thing overall, in my opinion. It seems like it. Because it's keeping the women because you want your.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Your prostitutes to be well rested.

[Brandon]

I mean, I don't know. I just think that people are going to do this anyway. Like, I don't know. I guess I'm libertarian or whatever you call it, where I just think, okay, well, the market speaks. It's free market, and people want to pay for sex, then, okay, Fine. Make it as safe as possible.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

No, I agree with that. I just did not. I think I was. If. If you're. If you're running a business where you are employing a harem of prostitutes.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I might not necessarily trust your.

[Brandon]

Well, what I mean is, if you're.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

An individual, if you're a self employed prostitute, of course you can take whatever time off you want.

[Brandon]

Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But if you're employing prostitutes, I don't want them to be abused. So, you know, that's what I'm saying.

[Brandon]

Yeah. So it like they're putting in protections for them, including health insurance.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't. I. The notion of the prostitute is o. Always bumped me a little bit. Like paying somebody to be attracted to.

[Brandon]

You, essentially morally strange. It's like a dubious area.

[Adam Carolla]

I've just never liked the notion of it. I like the idea of the person I'm with wanting to be with me versus paying for it.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

On the other hand, he's such a sentimental person.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. But you get a massage from somebody who doesn't want to give you a massage, except for you pay them to get a massage.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, some people say that you don't pay the prostitute for sex. You pay them leave.

[Adam Carolla]

I can't. The thing that I find vexing. We just did that story with Liam. What's his name from New Kids or One Direction or Liam Payne. Yeah. Not paying the prostitute. And then there was a big issue. There was a Charlie Sheen dust up with not paying the prostitute. There was a. You must know the name. Ikea Babucci. No. Yeah.

[Brandon]

No, no, I could Babucci.

[Adam Carolla]

I could Babucci. Clay doesn't know. I could be a bootcamp.

[Brandon]

The boxer.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I know that name, but I don't. I didn't know that's how you say it.

[Adam Carolla]

One of the most feared heavyweights really, of all time.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But what prostitute did he not pay?

[Adam Carolla]

He locked her in the closet or something and didn't find out what happened to Ike Abeyabuchi, who was feared more than Tyson, but ended up going to prison instead of fighting the people who were trying to duck him because he was pretty devastating. But IKEA Babucci locked. All I'm saying is this.

[Brandon]

That's kidnapping.

[Adam Carolla]

Charlie Sheen, Ichabe Ibuchi and Liam. What's it from? Who's it band?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Liam Payne.

[Adam Carolla]

What I'm saying is when you order a prostitute, figure you're gonna pay them and then bid them adieu at some point. Do not. There's always a story where it's like, then the prostitute asked for money. And the john got incensed and destroyed the room. And it's like, I wonder what did.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

They think was gonna happen.

[Adam Carolla]

I get there's a lot of drugs and booze floating around, but do not be surprised.

[Brandon]

I heard the story the other direction where the prostitute, as soon as she gets the money, runs out the door.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Understand a little bit.

[Brandon]

So I think that's why the happens. It's a strange, like same time, same time.

[Adam Carolla]

In July 1999, Ikea Babucci was staying at the Mirage Hotel in Las Vegas when he phoned a local escort service and had a woman Center's room. The 21 year old woman said later that she was there to strip and do nothing else. She claimed a Babucci attacked her in the walk in closet after she demanded to be paid up front. People get real moody with their processes. Babucci barricaded himself in the bathroom and police discharged pepper spray.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So he locked her in the closet and himself in the bathroom.

[Brandon]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm just saying invite the ladies into the hotel room and then expect to pay them at some point and see if we can keep it cordial, you know what I mean? I don't know why we locking people in different closets and bathrooms, why Charlie Sheen got into trouble with this. I get it. Drugs and alcohol, but yeah, well, that.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Can'T happen in Belgium anymore.

[Brandon]

Nope, not anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Protected, legalized.

[Brandon]

Next up in the news, brat trashes Walmart as adults. Make excuses for her in a wild video. Go. You don't know what she's going through. Yeah, yeah, I've seen. This is going around.

[Adam Carolla]

She's stamping, stomping on produce or on meat or what? What is she doing?

[Brandon]

Looks like she's in the Walmart grocery section. Yeah, about nine.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, people are, people are freaking.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Where's the parent?

[Adam Carolla]

That's a good question. I like that everyone's yelling at it. Oh, oh, now she's breaking the bubbly. All right, now you go after the booze. That's when, that's when I intervene.

[Brandon]

You're wasting wine.

[Adam Carolla]

My medicine.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, well, I don't see the parent anywhere.

[Adam Carolla]

Somebody may be the parent. I think part of the issue is she's black and people are freaked out.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I thought she seemed to be Asian.

[Brandon]

Racially ambiguous.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I mean, I can understand why people who are working there wouldn't do anything because you're afraid you're gonna get sued you touch somebody else's kid.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? I think she's black, but I can't. She looks like it to me. But the point is, there's a racial component to it where you just. You don't want to get filmed tackling a young black woman. Right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

But the parent should either be tackling.

[Adam Carolla]

Her or the parent should not. But the parent tackled them as well. The parent's not there. Listen, in the past, society was the parent.

[Brandon]

Dude. My dad smacks me up by the river. Wrist.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yes.

[Brandon]

Like, so quickly.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

How nice mine would have been by the neck.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Brandon]

Bust my shoulder out.

[Adam Carolla]

Somebody showed up at the end, a black man. So I. I don't know if that was the parent or not the parent, but either way, can't tell half black. We'll say something. Anyway, it was her hair that made me think that. Who knows anymore? Yeah, people are scared to intervene. I mean. And also, I don't know what his name is. Daniel Penny or whatever. You got this guy in New York who choked out a guy was threatening everyone on the subway, and he's right. He's on trial right now for his life, basically. So who the fuck wants to get involved anymore with anything? Because you will get.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, you'll get. Well, you'll get sued. You'll get. I mean, frankly, I would say the parent would beat your ass if you touched their kid. But frankly, I'd been happy to see the parent show up at all. Yeah.

[Brandon]

It seems like at the end, the article doesn't go into it, that it's not known if that's her father at all. So. Yeah, still kind of. I guess we'll have to follow that up later.

[Adam Carolla]

I hate wasted food.

[Brandon]

Yeah, me too.

[Adam Carolla]

I do.

[Brandon]

I got that. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And if I would have worked there, and they were like, we got to throw out those pork chops. And I'd be like, why? Because she threw them on the floor. I'm like, they're still in the package. And they'd go. At some point, I'd go, we gotta throw out the Triscuits and the pork chops. And. Yeah, I'll do that. I'll volunteer to do that. And then I just walk it over to my car and I throw everything in my car.

[Brandon]

See? But that's the interesting thing. Also, there's a big issue of food waste in America. Nowhere. If it goes, like, one day past expiration day, they put in the dumpster but pour bleach on it so that people can. Yeah, Starbucks, too. Starbucks throws boatloads of stuff away.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

What, is. Because they're afraid someone will eat it and sue them?

[Brandon]

No, it's because then the price goes down. Because if I Can get those biscuits tomorrow for free or. Yeah, the whole black market gets set up. Instead of doing something smart like selling, like giving it to homeless shelter or something like this, that. They don't do that. Yeah, this is the. You never heard of them?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I have, but I thought it's because they had a liability.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That would make sense.

[Brandon]

That's their excuse.

[Adam Carolla]

Aha. Yeah.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I feel like once it's in the dumpster though, they shouldn't have a liability.

[Adam Carolla]

Until they get sued. Listen, I. When I worked at McDonald's, I was told to throw away like 13 filet of fish. Oh, I took that chance. I walked that to the dumpster. First off, I ate three of them on the way to the dumpster. And then the second thing I did is shove them all in the arm of the dumpster because the dumpster has that hollowed out arm for the hooks. Shoved them all in there and hit them.

[Brandon]

Well played.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And came back a day old filet of fish and ate it.

[Adam Carolla]

Later that day.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Later that day.

[Brandon]

Later that day, a few hours cooking in the dumpster.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm no worse for wear. I'm fine. I wasn't gonna waste any of that food. I was gonna be part of the problem.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And nothing really keeps like fish, you know?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you love. I'll tell you. Tartar sauce and fish, those are the things you want. You want in the sun. You want tartar cheese and fish to be in the sun before you eat it. That's what some of my pappy told me.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And it's better if you sit it as close to sewage as possible.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. You want to keep it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That goes without saying.

[Brandon]

Very mindful of you.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, one more.

[Brandon]

Dictionary.com has named its word of the year and it is not brat. Can anyone guess?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, afraid.

[Adam Carolla]

Wait a minute.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You said mindful.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm going low. Purboly low.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Purpley is.

[Adam Carolla]

I just invented a word that needs to be. Need. My family would use low. Purply.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That'll be 20, 25. I can see it.

[Brandon]

I'm going copaganda. What's your. What's your guess?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm afraid you said mindful and I was afraid to God that you were gonna say that the word is demure.

[Brandon]

Demure.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Is it really?

[Brandon]

You are correct.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I didn't want that to be the word.

[Brandon]

It is. It's a word. It went viral over the summer. I don't know. Can you guys bring up the lady who popularizes, please? Because this, this lady is something else. She. She has that charisma she has something about her that just really brought it home.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

She has a penis.

[Brandon]

Well, yeah, I think she still does, probably. I think she's a lady.

[Adam Carolla]

Lady I'm having a hard time telling these days. Yeah, yeah.

[Brandon]

Come on, buster.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You see how I do my makeup for work? Very demure, very mindful. I don't come to work with a green cut crease. I don't know what that is.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't do too much.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I'm very mindful while I'm at work, see how I look? Very presentable. The way I came to the interview is the way I go to the job. A lot of you girls go to the interview looking like Marge Simpson and go to the job looking like Patty and Selma. Not demure. I'm very modest. I'm very mindful. You see my shirt? Only a little chichi. Out. Not my choo. Be mindful of why they hired you. Here's your reality check, diva. What's the name you'd like me to make it out to?

[Brandon]

See, this is how I got this job.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I listened to this about high self esteem, though. I'm so self esteem.

[Brandon]

I'm so minded.

[Adam Carolla]

She didn't throw away a lot of filet of fish. I'll tell you right now, 13. She did not chuck a lot of filet fish. She put that down.

[Brandon]

He backed them down.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know if this is a man or woman.

[Brandon]

No, she is trans. Yeah. As far as I've read. And. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Where might she be working that this is.

[Brandon]

I don't know. They didn't go into that either. I didn't dig too deep on her. I just realized that the demure thing just went.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

I always thought the word of the year was supposed to be a new word. Demure's not a new word.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what. That's why you wanted guys.

[Brandon]

It's wrong. That's why I got robbed.

[Adam Carolla]

I got robbed with Bahman all those years ago.

[Brandon]

What?

[Adam Carolla]

What? The Bahaiman. You know, the lady has a hymen and the man has a bahaman. A beehime, I should say. You know, mine's still in decent shape. You know, I don't know, but I'm saying that should have been word of the year in 99. Beheman.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah. I was surprised. I think I read that another dictionary also named demure as a word. And I was surprised because I always thought they were supposed to be newly coined words or.

[Brandon]

No, the other the. In Oxford. I think they went with brain rot. See, now that's an Oxford dictionary. But yeah, they're just, you know, it doesn't have to be a new word. It just has to be a viral word.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Certainly viral.

[Adam Carolla]

I am in. I have many entries in the urban dictionary.

[Brandon]

Yeah, me too. You do? I do that. You coin two. I know Squirrel neck is in there. Frickin squirrel neck.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, squirrel neck's in there.

[Brandon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Brandon]

But I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

Let's look it up. I want to know what Mayhem has in there. I have many entries that you created. Yes.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And a new one today, so we'll add to it.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right.

[Brandon]

Low purboli.

[Adam Carolla]

Lopeurboli. The standard is perfect because my family would have. If I sold out, a theater that had 2,000 seats and someone would ask my mom how big was the venue? She'd say about 1,500 seats. She would use low purboly.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

And what would be her motivation for that?

[Adam Carolla]

I don't. That is a vexing question. But what I'm saying. Other moms may have said 3,000 counter 3,000 seats and used high to go up. The correct answer would be 2. Many moms would say 2500 or over 2 or something. My mom would say about a thousand.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That was very.

[Adam Carolla]

She was a Corolla. Not generous. My family did not roll that way.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

You want to use low purple for how many empty seats were there? Oh, just two or three.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, right. That's where you. It's good use of low purple.

[Brandy Roderick]

Thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

My mom would have won. That's about half full, maybe for four empty seats. So does Mayhem have LeBron? Worked as a cashier at Marinos in Illinois.

[Brandon]

Cashier, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Now she is. Oh, her name is lebron. Because we did the whole.

[Brandon]

Her last name is lebron.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Squirrel name.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, is Brandy ready or not?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Do you get credited for that?

[Adam Carolla]

I have a sign that says Brandy's here, but she's finished doing her hair. Oh, makeup now. Okay. Are squirrel neck. So you get credit for squirrel neck.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It says your name there.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Is there another entry or is it just squirrel neck?

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Well, hold on. I need to know what that means.

[Adam Carolla]

So I can use.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

It is more often little importance. Oh, so it's just an insult for someone.

[Brandon]

Yeah, it's somebody who's, like, insignificant.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Okay, Squirrel neck. I can start using that. I know a lot of those.

[Brandon]

Great.

[Adam Carolla]

See if I have any light in there.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Do they list them by who created it?

[Adam Carolla]

I haven't checked in a million years. I can't remember how. If you Put in Adam Carolla.

[Brandy Roderick]

I've tried this.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Whatever you do, don't put in my.

[Brandy Roderick]

Name Jason Mayhem Miller, and it comes up non existent. So you can't search like whatever the word is.

[Brandon]

I just knew that. Somebody told me that there's that. Hey, you know you're on Urban Dictionary.

[Adam Carolla]

If you search Adam Carolla, then it doesn't. It won't come up. Up.

[Brandy Roderick]

I will check that.

[Brandon]

Now you got plenty of bangers, bro. Like, you definitely have something in there to.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, Adam Corolla as a term means Renaissance man.

[Brandon]

No, at you Tang. A Corolla is when you take a left on one of those red lights that have the arrow. I just. I always hang a Corolla.

[Brandy Roderick]

Adam Corolla has a definition in the Urban Dictionary. It's Renaissance man, patriot, God, among.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Did you put that in yourself?

[Adam Carolla]

I had my publicist do it, but yeah, she was told to do it.

[Brandon]

Hell yeah.

[Brandy Roderick]

But it won't give you any other searches.

[Brandon]

Your publicist, Prophet Muhammad.

[Brandy Roderick]

They won't give us your other words.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it has behind in there.

[Brandon]

It does.

[Adam Carolla]

And Black Simile. Well, that's two black guys that seem alike. Dime for scale. I didn't even know why that one's in there. But that's the ones you've been able to find, huh? Yeah, there's a bunch that you. If you search, it'll say coined by person. So Emotional chiropractor. Coined by Adam Carolla. Mm hmm.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

So for 2025, we need one of these to be the word of the day.

[Brandon]

I forgot about that one.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, well, not for this show, but we'll. Let's see if we can consolidate these things and then somebody, you know, put a call to one of the higher ups over there in Urban Dictionary. And let's get my loper.

[Brandon]

Yeah, Stamping in there.

[Adam Carolla]

All right.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Just ask Mayhem also has some plush.

[Adam Carolla]

My pants. Laughing so hard.

[Brandon]

Yeah, some plush.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Wait, hold on. What is that one? Some plush. Splush.

[Brandon]

Yeah, it's like. It's a, you know, S. Acronym. Yeah. Acronym. My pants. I'm laughing so hard.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, it's an acronym. Okay, Clay's out. Christmas bells are ringing, everyone. Let's get back to the basics over here.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, it's already up low. Purpley's already up.

[Adam Carolla]

I think we're submitting.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Oh, good, good.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, submitting. Oh, my children need a legacy. And behind's not enough. We need more Sploosh in Black simile. Available. By the way, Christmas bells are ringing anywhere you find finer albums and website Clay Aiken. That is a I K E N.com is where you go for all the good stuff. Always great to catch up with you, my friend.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Thank you. Thank you, too.

[Brandon]

God bless you, man.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Brandy Roderick]

It'S time to check Adam's voicemail.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Aceman just had annual harassment training. You're no longer allowed to say the following thing because it might impact Native Americans negatively. Pow wow. Bury the hatchet. Or long time no see. But my favorite by far, that applies to all people. You're no longer allowed to say all hands in because not all people have two hands. Get it on.

[Brandy Roderick]

You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744.

[Adam Carolla]

But all hands on deck kind of means the same thing, but hands just means all sailors on deck. Anyway, we're fucking retarded. Brandi Roderick is here. We'll talk about her film Baywatch, Playboy, of course. You know Celebrity Apprentice season two, was it or three?

[F]

Yes, season two and whatever the All Star one was.

[Adam Carolla]

And the All Star one. I was not invited to return for that one. Yeah. And the movie, the film Wineville, it's directed by Brandy as well as stars in it. And it's available right now for rent on Amazon and more. This is a big undertaking to direct and star in a film which I've done a kind of couple of times. It's a lot of work. How many days was the sh. Shoot?

[F]

The shoot was only two weeks.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a real fast.

[F]

But it took almost three years to finally get it on air to get it released. Yeah. It is a very huge undertaking and I don't think I'll play all Hats ever again. I was also the producer.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot. And especially if you're in most the scenes, which I'm assuming you were.

[F]

Yeah. It's two thirds probably yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then directing yourself, why the choice?

[F]

It just worked out that way with everything. We originally had someone to do it, and he went to jail. It's kind of weird story, but that happened. So we were getting into it. And I have a good friend, Richard Shankman, who's an amazing director who also wrote the screen script. And he's my mentor and was with me on set, with me every step of the way. So he was there through the whole process. So I really had someone there with me.

[Adam Carolla]

So for you, what was the. You grew up in California, right? And what was the plan when you were younger?

[F]

I always wanted to be an actor.

[Adam Carolla]

You did?

[F]

Yeah. So I was always putting on, you know, little performances in my living room, and I would go around all the neighbors and sell tables, and they would come and, you know, watch the performances, and I would have all the little kids in the plays. And so it's something I always wanted to do.

[Adam Carolla]

I think they call that, not in a derogatory way, but like a ham. You like the attention?

[F]

I was told I was a ham pretty much my whole childhood life by my family.

[Adam Carolla]

And was this based on anything? Were your parents in the arts or any of that, or just stood out?

[F]

Well, my mom is an artist. She's very creative. Her grandfather is an artist. He made amazing furniture. And, you know, so it's kind of in the blood just being that type of creative person. But there's no one, you know, that's in the acting or singing or anything like that.

[Adam Carolla]

So did Baywatch come before Playboy or Playboy before Baywatch?

[F]

They came simultaneously, actually. So when I left for Baywatch was April, and then my issue came out in April, so they both kind of happened at the same time.

[Adam Carolla]

So first, how does Playboy come about and how does Baywatch come about?

[F]

Well, Baywatch came about because I actually went in to audition for another role for some volleyball TV show, and the same casting directors were casting Baywatch, and they said, you'd be great for Baywatch. You have to come in and meet the producer. And so brought me in there to meet one of the producers. They're like, we're having a. A test in, like, two days. Can you come and, you know, and go and do a test with some of the other actors? And, yeah, so I hurried up and went and met with my acting coach, Ivana Chubbuck, and, you know, got it all together and went and did the test. But first they pulled me in that day and did just a quick cold reading and then went and did the test and Got the job. I actually was auditioning for a smaller role, and they ended up giving me the lead role of the head lifeguard.

[Adam Carolla]

So have you watched Baywatch doc?

[F]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

What'd you think?

[F]

It was great.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah?

[F]

Yeah, it was great.

[Adam Carolla]

I thought it was real interesting. But oftentimes when there's a telling of a story that you were involved in, you don't enjoy it as much because you see how much they got wrong versus me, who has no idea. I just believe whatever it is they say and go, that's interesting.

[F]

Well, I mean, of course, you hear mostly the interesting stories, right? The kind of unconventional stories, let's say, or the ones that have heartache or situations like that. Whereas my story really was. It was the best job I ever had. I got to live in Hawaii. It was so amazing. So my story's not as interesting, let's say, as, you know, Jeremy Jackson, who overcame horrific drug addiction, or Jason Simmons, who, you know, had to hide the fact that he was gay. You know, had they, you know, had to, you know, showcase all of those stories that are more interesting that you didn't know, that the public didn't know, as opposed to someone like myself who just had an amazing, wonderful time. Kind of like the. Did you ever see any of the Playboy. The Playboy documentary?

[Adam Carolla]

Mm. I think I was in some of them.

[F]

Just, like, in the background, dancing, doing your disco moves.

[Adam Carolla]

I remember being interviewed a time or two for Playboy, something, something. And it wasn't the Playboy doc, but I've always liked Hefner. I've always been interested in the story. It's very American. It's very, kind of uniquely American. I won't say that he doesn't get his due, but somehow got a little bit lost in the history of this. You know, he. He's a much bigger part of a big chunk of this country than people really think about. You know, like, first off, Playboy was ubiquitous when I was a kid. There were playmates whose names I remember, you know, from, you know, the formative years.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I was literally thinking the other day that my. I had a couple of neighbors that had Playboy. My dad didn't have Playboy, but when I would babysit, first thing I'd go for is run and go get those Playboys, which I knew where they hid them.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, in the bathroom under the sink. And I could remember the women in them and, like, super, like, formative and. And then. Then the whole sort of civil rights aspect and the arts and the jazz and the Miles Davis and, you know, driving a Mercedes. You know, 54 Mercedes 300 SL convertible. Like back when everyone was driving Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles and stuff. Like, I mean, the Chicago mansion and just being on the crazy kind of vanguard of everything, you know, with lots of real articles and real culture, as well as naked women.

[F]

Absolutely. And I wish that people could remember and kind of see that side of it as opposed to possibly now with the whole new Me Too movement. Everyone is so negative, you know, again, Hef. And what he did, but he really did, like you just mentioned, he was civil rights and so many different things. He did so many amazing things for our country.

[Adam Carolla]

I remember reading an interview with Andrew Dice clay in, like, 1989 and going, oh, this is really interesting, and this is kind of an act. And he's putting on this character and stuff. And it was like reading the interviews in Playboy was really innovative and interesting and eye opening, and there's a lot there. And I think the guy's pretty much Mount Rushmore of sort of cultural icon stuff. But, you know, you dated him, so you tell me.

[F]

Yeah, that's kind of the point I was getting at in the beginning, is that for me, my experience with Heff is one of, you know, he was with a lot of stuff, kind of a teacher. You know, I learned about jazz and Miles Davis and different music and different old classic films because we watched old films, you know, two days a week in the two and a half years I was with them. And he was just very gracious and such a wonderful human being. So to hear people talking horrible things about him, it's very. It's hard to hear because that's not my experience with him. My experience with him is, you know, one of just amazing fond memories and experiences and, you know.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And also, you know, an entrepreneur. I mean, a guy started off with not much and. Yeah, sort of. I believe we can look this up, Joe. But he. I don't know, he's living in Illinois, probably bad marriage, you know, not much going on. Wanted to start this magazine, needed a way to start it, and got those Marilyn Monroe pictures for some sort of discount or on the cheap or somehow. I don't know how he procured these pictures of Marilyn Monroe in the nude, but somehow got his hands on it and Lost, launched that first copy with that, and that's what really worked. But whatever, he. He built things.

[F]

Yeah, yeah. And he was a dreamer, you know, And I don't know if you know this or not, but in the very beginning, he wanted to make movies, and he made movies as a Kid, So he was very, you know, he's also a very creative person, but he was a dreamer.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. So when you and he, I guess, could have had his pick of the litter over there in terms of girlfriends. So I guess, kind of flattering that he chose you or. I don't know how that worked.

[F]

I mean, yeah, I was. I'm flattered. I was just, you know, a girl from, you know, Northern California coming to LA to fulfill a dream. And I don't know if, you know, this, the story or not, but my mom actually named me after a Playboy model. So I had known that since I was, like, a young kid. So I'd, you know, since I was, like, in fifth grade. Oh, I want to be in Playboy, you know, I had to live up to this image of this mom, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Your mom named you Brandy after a playboy model. So December 1953 is the issue. Marilyn Monroe. It was from a nude calendar pick she did in 49 under a different name for 50 cents. Hugh Hefner purchased the rights to the Marilyn Monroe nude photos from a Chicago area calendar company in 1953 for 500 bucks.

[F]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

Which was, you know, decent money back then. Maybe it was eight grand or something. Something like that. Oh, $50. Sorry, it's a 50 or something. Anyway, it was $50. What? No, Marilyn got paid 50. Hugh paid 500. The calendar company probably thought they made a killing. And then Hugh launched Playboy.

[F]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

And then all the clubs and everything after that. And. Yeah, I mean, the Playboy Mansion back in the day, I had a chance to go there a couple times, do a few things there.

[F]

Yeah. It was. Well, the time that I was there, it was awesome because it was before we had camera phones and everything. It was 98, 99, 2000. And so all the celebrities could come and just have fun and enjoy yourself. You didn't have to worry about, you know, creepers behind the, you know, everyone taking pictures and having it be out on social media. We didn't have any of that. And then that all changed, like in 2001, 2002, and it just changed everything. And people couldn't go up there anymore and feel free and liberated and just, you know, have fun.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. The thing I always remember from going to the Playboy Mansion and seeing all the peacocks up in the trees, and I was like, how'd those peacocks get to the top of that tree? And then someone would be like, well, they flew. And I'm like, how come I never see them fly? Then? Like, they're always walking around or they're up in the tree, but I never see them flew. Fly up to the tree or fly down. But then people show me videos of them flying. Yeah, I just never see a peacock fly. But if you go to the mansion, you go. They have these huge pine trees and you go looking up and it's 80ft up in the air and they're just a peacock standing there. But I never saw it get up there or get down.

[F]

Yeah, they do. I. I actually have had many peacocks at my house and they.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

That's.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

At your house. Oh, at the mansion or at your house?

[F]

No, at my. At one of my properties. I sold that house now, though. But yes, we had peacocks.

[Adam Carolla]

Flying peacocks.

[F]

Uhhuh. And they had to have babies and they would have to, you know, be up in the trees to get rid of. I mean, to get away from like coyotes and stuff like that.

[Adam Carolla]

But where was this?

[F]

Where I live in Temecula.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Wine country.

[F]

Yes, I live in wine country. Well, speaking of wine, this is from my grapes. So I brought you a bottle.

[Adam Carolla]

Thank you.

[F]

Hopefully. You drink wine?

[Adam Carolla]

I do. I love wine. I don't know. What's not to love about wine?

[F]

Yeah, it has resveratrol in it. So, you know, a glass a day keeps you healthy. Keeps the doctor away.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I know, but no one can stop at just one. Although there's a glass and there's a glass. Like there's the glass that's, you know, five, six ounces. And then there's the. Oh, here we go.

[F]

Well, you'd be surprised because a normal kind of looking glass, that bottle can fit in a normal looking glass. Well, my wine glass, I guess the whole bottle. Yeah. Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Can fill.

[F]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And the glass looks normal.

[F]

It's a Robert Renzoni wine glass. So it just looks like a normal glass, but you can fit a whole bottle in there. I know, it's.

[Adam Carolla]

I like where your head's at with this. I gotta be honest.

[F]

I had a glass last night.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Just one.

[F]

Just one.

[Adam Carolla]

Moderation.

[F]

Yeah, moderation's key.

[Adam Carolla]

So when you went. So it starts with Baywatch and then Playboy, I guess. And what. So what playmate are you named after? Brandy. I know the 70s and 80s mostly, but I don't know earlier, so I.

[F]

Don'T know if she was a Playmate. It was in a Playboy magazine and my mom was ready to give birth. She was looking through my uncle's magazine and saw this beautiful woman named Brandy. Spelt it with an e. And when I first met hef I told him the story and we went into the library to try to find all the millions of magazines trying to find this girl. And we haven't. We weren't able to find her. So it was probably like Penthouse or Hustler, but my mom always told me was Playboy.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, they would do college co eds and big girls of the PAC 10 and all sorts of other. There was the playmate and then there was the son.

[F]

Playboy model.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And then there was like civilians who were like college girls from the whatever sorority and they just do little scantily.

[F]

Colored or the housewives of whatever Cincinnati or whatever they would do. Yeah, yeah. So who knows? But yeah, that was.

[Adam Carolla]

So your mom was cool with you being a playmate?

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And then what about you? Was it something, I don't know, take your clothes off in front of stranger years?

[F]

Like, how did I feel about that? Well, first I. I think the first time I had a bottle of champagne and the next time maybe a shot of tequila. I always would, you know, in the beginning had to kind of loosen up with, you know, a little bit of alcohol and. And then once I did that, I'd just go. And I'd be feeling free and feeling good. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And they, I mean, it was a real thing back then, like a shoot. And the same photographer for a million years.

[F]

Steven Wada was my photographer. The lighting, they had to get all the lighting perfect because we didn't have, you know, the filters and all the things that they have now. So they had to really get the lighting perfect. When we did our gate fold, you know, the part that folds out, you had to. We had to stand there for like eight hours in the same position. It was just this crazy. And they were using the big film, like film camera.

[Adam Carolla]

And is a gate fold a center fold?

[F]

Yeah. And that's why it's in the gate folds. Girls kind of look a little stressed out because you're in these heels and you're standing in these weird positions. You have to keep that position the whole time while you're doing that all day.

[Adam Carolla]

And how did it come about with Heft? Would he like the results? I know you're playmate of the year.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Was. Oh, did you get a car?

[F]

Yes. Yeah, I got a Porsche Boxster.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you did. Interesting because you used to get a car.

[F]

Yeah. And then the last 15, 20 years, they stopped shortly after my year actually of getting a car. I also got a motorcycle.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[F]

A Buell Blast, which is a Harley Davidson engine.

[Adam Carolla]

Sure. Belt driven.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. F. Best Playmate of all time beside you.

[F]

I mean, you have to say Pamela Anderson.

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, no.

[F]

Okay, well, most popular, I guess.

[Adam Carolla]

But who for you the most beautiful.

[F]

Oh, gosh, there's so many most beautiful. Oh, gosh. I always thought Victoria s step was just very beautiful and gorgeous and statuesque and, you know, larger than life. And another Brandy playmate was beautiful. Brandy Brandt, brunette. She was in the maybe mid-80s, but yeah, I mean, they're. They're all great.

[Adam Carolla]

Who's.

[F]

Who's your all time favorite?

[Adam Carolla]

I gotta say. Candy Loving. I don't think I know her name is Candy Loving. Number one should know her. But number two, great rack. Number three, spectacular. Like, I don't know what you do better in the 1. Find me some good pictures of Candy Loving. Because her name is Candy Loving.

[F]

So cute one. But yeah, she's very girl next door. Very cute. Yeah, she's adorable.

[Adam Carolla]

There's a couple other.

[F]

Or you're just looking at her boobs, though.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I'm moving around. I'm going up and down. Okay, find me a couple other. The candy. A little. We'll go a little more glamorous because this is a little. This is a little girl next story. I like it kind of Candy Love. This what I call a natural beauty.

[F]

And that name, I mean, what a great name.

[Adam Carolla]

Candy Loving is her name. Everybody.

[F]

Perfect name.

[Adam Carolla]

Now we're gonna need a little better. And this. It's all good. There's a couple of good. Find me a good Candy Loving picture.

[F]

What year is she from?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, she's like 79, 80 or something.

[F]

When you were like a teenage young, when you were first starting to. That was your girl, right? So she might. It might seem different now than it did back then for you.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, there is. So there's always that element where they go. Well, that's because you were in your formative years, which is true, but there's also good architecture and shit. Architecture. Like the cars that came out in the mid-60s. I wasn't driving them and I wasn't old enough to appreciate them, but they're better than the ones in the mid-70s. So you can go, well, of course you like Candy Loving because you're in the 10th grade when candy Loving hit. But you still can't beat Candy Loving. That. That's. Find me a good. Come on, Joe. Find me a good Candy Love.

[F]

He's like, that's all there is.

[Adam Carolla]

No, there's a thousand pictures of Candyland. Believe you me, Believe me.

[F]

I just looked last night.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. Over the Weekend, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a great picture. There's, there's still, there's still. Let's see.

[F]

What do you think about that? The, the hair thing?

[Adam Carolla]

I don't mind it. I don't, I don't like, I don't like this. The shave clean, but I, you know, a little more of the natural look. I still, I don't know what's where. I feel like there's a thousand better pictures of Candy Loving on the, on the Internet. Joe. But I don't know, Joe. I've never even seen this picture and I feel. Well, just go to her.

[Brandon]

Are you looking for something in particular?

[Adam Carolla]

Just go to her pictorial, I guess is what. I don't find a picture where Candy Love it. Loving looks. We'll find one. Or why don't you put five of them up and I'll tell you which one.

[F]

Playmate. Candy Loving.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, maybe that's it. Candy Loving. You're just going to get fat kids.

[F]

So did you ever meet her?

[Adam Carolla]

No, never. All right, so go second. The most popular would be like the second one. All right, that would be.

[F]

Oh, yeah, I recognize that picture.

[Adam Carolla]

You recognize that?

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And.

[F]

Yeah, and I might have.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll go with that. I've got the boobs together shot too. There. That's pretty good one. You were there. There you go.

[F]

Oh, that's cute.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. Can't go wrong with. All right, now listen, I may have been 15, but this has not gone out of fashion. Whatever, whatever Candy Loving's got that looks like people be more than happy for some of that today. Give me that one. Yeah, because hot is hot. That's kind of the way. That's the way it rolls.

[F]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So that's how it works.

[Jason Mayhem Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, I'm going Candy loving.

[F]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

That's all.

[F]

Yeah. She's absolutely adorable.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I know where she is now. Never met her, but that's true.

[F]

I can't believe you never tried to find her and have her come on the show if this is your all time favorite. It.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, she is, but I still. I'm not sure what we would talk about.

[F]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

And you might feel she'll come out with a movie.

[F]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I'd be a mess. I'd be like Chris Farley in that SNL sketch talking to Paul McCartney.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Can I call you Candy Candy. Candy Ms. Loving. Loving.

[F]

Well, you could have talked about her experience with Playboy, especially after all the negative stuff was coming out about, you know, half. And maybe she did do, but I'd.

[Adam Carolla]

Be such a ball of nerves. I could never get to that.

[F]

Drink a little first.

[Adam Carolla]

Take the edge off. Take the edge off, you know?

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So the movie.

[F]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

How's it doing? Is it. Is it being reviewed? Is it. Is it being well reviewed?

[F]

Well, it's being reviewed and it's out. And you were talking about how you go to the people's review. So if you go to Rotten Tomatoes, last I checked, it was like 98% on the people's.

[Adam Carolla]

With the people.

[F]

With the people.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I don't know. The critics probably not gonna. Well, they'll turn their nose up at it.

[F]

The critics. You have to have. There you go.

[Adam Carolla]

See 98 with the. With the. With the people.

[F]

With the people.

[Adam Carolla]

And no reviews with the three, but no consensus.

[F]

From what I understand, you have to have it least seven critic reviews and.

[Adam Carolla]

50 plus from the people.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You cannot argue with 98 from the people.

[F]

The people.

[Adam Carolla]

That's pretty damn people have spoken.

[F]

So now you have to watch it.

[Adam Carolla]

Resounding. I will. All right, well, let me give it a plug. Wineville. And it's available on Amazon and vod. Right. Look wherever you.

[F]

Yeah, you can watch video on. You can watch it anywhere. Rent it. Apple and Amazon and all the things.

[Adam Carolla]

Are you gonna do another one?

[F]

I will continue to do movies, but I'll just do mainly producing and acting because it was too hard to try to direct as well. But I love producing. I love putting movies together. I love all that part of it and I love acting.

[Adam Carolla]

So I'll continue to do that. I'm not watching because 98 with the people.

[F]

And that's my son too, in real.

[Adam Carolla]

Life, in the movie Co starring with you, named after a Playgirl model from the 90s.

[F]

Not play girl. Playboy.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but he's a dude.

[F]

Oh, him. I'm not a play Girl, though. Playmate.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but there's a. There's a. I did the math on the joke before. I don't have to explain it to you. Brandy, where should we send people? Brandy and I'll spell it R O D E R I C k dot com. Right? Yeah. I want to find out what you're up to. Movie stuff, all that kind of stuff. Clay Aiken as well. The Christmas sound. Christmas bells are ringing Me. I'm going to be Saturday in Phoenix at the Tapatio Cliffs Resort doing standup over there. And then Pasadena and then Brookville, New York, and Solana beach and Covinago to amcroll.com for all the live shows. Until next time. I'm CR for Brandy Roderick and Clay Aiken and Mayhem Miller saying Valhalla.

[Brandy Roderick]

Pick up your phone and leave us a voicemail at 888-634-1744. Now that you've done that, go get some [e-mail].

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