Stephen Baldwin and Adam Carolla love bad movies + Jeff Abraham—CEO of Absorption Pharmaceuticals

Summary

Adam Carolla Show Episode Summary Title: Stephen Baldwin and Adam Carolla Love Bad Movies + Jeff Abraham—CEO of Absorption Pharmaceuticals
Release Date: June 25, 2025
Host: Adam Carolla
Guests: Stephen Baldwin, Jeff Abraham, Alicia Krause

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1. Introduction

In this episode of The Adam Carolla Show, host Adam Carolla welcomes Stephen Baldwin, known for his role in various Hollywood productions, and Jeff Abraham, CEO of Absorption Pharmaceuticals. Alicia Krause provides the latest news and trending topics throughout the episode.

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2. The Baldwin Brothers and Bad Movies

Timestamp: [02:22]

Adam opens the conversation by expressing his fascination with the Baldwin family, particularly Stephen’s relationship with his brothers. Stephen humorously refers to themselves as the “Baldwin breeding ranch,” highlighting the prominence of acting within the family.

Notable Quote:

Stephen Baldwin: “We are out of here.”
Timestamp: [04:43]

Stephen delves into his experience on the set of "Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man", which he candidly describes as one of his "one bad movies." He criticizes the film's predictability and the performances, especially noting the on-screen presence of Don Johnson and Mickey Rourke.

Notable Quote:

Stephen Baldwin: “Everything about that movie was on the nose.”
Timestamp: [04:48]

3. Stephen's Acting Career and "One Bad Movie"

Timestamp: [14:23]

The discussion shifts to Stephen’s acting career and his new podcast titled "One Bad Movie." Stephen reflects on his extensive filmography, humorously mentioning titles like "Sharks in Venice" and "Harpies," which he considers some of his least successful projects.

Notable Quote:

Stephen Baldwin: “It's gonna be lower than 10%. It's so bad, it's immeasurably bad.”
Timestamp: [32:55]

Stephen and Adam engage in a playful critique of bad movies, using "Slap Shot 2" and "Sharks in Venice" as examples. Their banter includes mock reviews and humorous takes on the films’ shortcomings.

4. Family and Politics

Timestamp: [10:06]

Adam and Stephen discuss the dynamics among the Baldwin siblings, touching upon their political views. Stephen identifies as a born-again Christian with conservative leanings, contrasting with the more liberal stances within Hollywood.

Notable Quote:

Stephen Baldwin: “I'm a born again Christian. I'm not Catholic. I'm a guy with a biblical worldview who has accepted the Lord Jesus as my Lord and Savior.”
Timestamp: [12:11]

The conversation also highlights Stephen’s long-standing marriage of 35 years and his close relationship with his daughters, particularly Hailey Baldwin, who is described as successful and well-grounded.

Notable Quote:

Stephen Baldwin: “Both of my children...would bless me beyond measure.”
Timestamp: [50:28]

5. Journey into Jeff Abraham's Story

Timestamp: [102:32]

Transitioning from entertainment and personal anecdotes, Adam introduces Jeff Abraham, CEO of Absorption Pharmaceuticals. Jeff shares a tragic story about his friend Dr. Ron Gilbert, a urologist who was mistakenly murdered by a man seeking retribution for a prostate surgery gone wrong.

Notable Quote:

Jeff Abraham: “If Ron had died in a plane accident or a car wreck, it wouldn't be any less tragic. It was like...”
Timestamp: [104:07]

Jeff recounts the emotional toll of the incident, his subsequent takeover of Dr. Gilbert's company, and the challenges faced in honoring his friend's legacy. He emphasizes the importance of perseverance, ethics, and the impact of genuine, effective products in building a successful business.

Notable Quote:

Jeff Abraham: “We have a lot of upside here. And he said, really? Yeah. That morning, he sent me a text, said, you know, I love your brother. You made my dream a reality...”
Timestamp: [105:08]

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6. Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, Adam encourages listeners to tune into Stephen Baldwin’s new podcast "One Bad Movie" and promotes upcoming live shows and Jeff Abraham’s continuing endeavors with Absorption Pharmaceuticals. The conversation underscores themes of resilience, legacy, and the value of engaging with both successes and setbacks in personal and professional life.

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Notable Takeaways:

• Stephen Baldwin's candid critique of his own and others' film projects provides an insider's perspective on the challenges of acting in Hollywood.
• Family dynamics and political beliefs play a significant role in shaping the paths of the Baldwin siblings.
• Jeff Abraham's tragic story highlights the unforeseen challenges in business and the importance of ethical leadership and perseverance in the face of adversity.
• The humorous interplay between Adam and Stephen offers an entertaining yet insightful look into the world of bad movies and personal growth.

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Highlighted Quotes:

1. On Bad Movies:

   Stephen Baldwin: “Everything about that movie was on the nose.”
   Timestamp: [04:48]

2. On Political Views:

   Stephen Baldwin: “I'm a born again Christian. I'm not Catholic. I'm a guy with a biblical worldview who has accepted the Lord Jesus as my Lord and Savior.”
   Timestamp: [12:11]

3. On Family Support:

   Stephen Baldwin: “Both of my children...would bless me beyond measure.”
   Timestamp: [50:28]

4. On Perseverance in Business:

   Jeff Abraham: “We have a lot of upside here. And he said, really? Yeah...”
   Timestamp: [105:08]

5. On Overcoming Tragedy:

   Jeff Abraham: “…we ended up in a lawsuit with them and it came to fruition in 2022, believe it or not, in a six week court trial in Newark, New Jersey.”
   Timestamp: [117:42]

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This episode offers a blend of humor, personal stories, and serious discussions, providing listeners with an engaging experience that spans the realms of entertainment, family, and business resilience.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

Well, in this episode, Stephen Baldwin, the fun Baldwin comes in and we chop it up, have a good time. Alicia Krause does the news. Jeff Abrams, well, he's going to come back and update us. Crazy story. You'll want to hear it. We'll do all that right after this. Hey, this is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show. Betonline continues to be your number one source for all your sports betting action. Baseball's in full swing, football is right around the corner. And Betonline's got you covered with the latest odds, breaking news and live scores. Betonline even has live in game betting. While the games are being played real time from MLB to UFC to tennis to NFL futures, bet online. That's the place to play. And between games, hit up the Betonline casino. Packed with top Vegas style games, poker and live casino. Betonline has it all. Sign up now and score big with VIP rewards, level up bonuses and weekly cash bonuses. Betonline, the game starts here.

[Jeff Abraham]

From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today, Stephen Baldwin. Plus the CEO of Promescent, Jeff Abraham. And the news and trending topics with Alicia Krause. And now the lost Baldwin brother, Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, get it on. Got to get on our trips. We gotta run it. Get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for telling a friend. Stephen Baldwin in studio. New podcast, one bad movie. And you can find that wherever you find finer podcasts. So much to get into you with Stephen. I'm interested in the whole Baldwin clan. I really am. I'm interested in your brother. I only know Alec. I do not know the other Baldwin brothers.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I did Jay Leno once and he goes fresh off the Baldwin breeding ranch. Stephen Baldwin on the show this evening. The Baldwin breeding ranch.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, alliteration, at least he had that working for him.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, there's a few of us. Four of us.

[Adam Carolla]

There's four brothers.

[Stephen Baldwin]

William, Alec, Steven.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, Daniel in one of the greatest movies of all time.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Which one?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, like you have to ask?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, I'm the host of one bad movie, so you gotta, you know, I.

[Adam Carolla]

Don'T know, if you don't get Daniel in there, break down Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man. You are not doing your job as a podcast host. One of the greatest cinematic efforts of all time. Don Johnson, were you there?

[Stephen Baldwin]

I was on the set many times.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Because Mickey has been a friend of mine for a very long time.

[Adam Carolla]

Mickey Rourke. Mickey Rourke and Don Johnson. Mickey Rourke is Harley Davidson. And Don Johnson is the Marlboro Man. And if anyone can describe the plot of this movie, I will give you a handy and whatever parking lot, you tell me the plot. As far as I can tell, it's 1993 in Burbank Airport, and there's an old honky tonk bar. But we've entered the future and there's some sort of mystery drug that's blue. Drugs used to come in lit up cases. Like, it'd be some weird syringe. It'd be backlit and stuff. Like, they'd show it drugs. And it was in the future, but the future was like, 1996 and a half.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's all, like now. Not like now. What was that movie? Do you know? Did you know what it was when you were there?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, I think kind of the poster speaks for itself.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And I think you have to. You know, again, I analyze films very differently now from the perspective to which I'm doing my show. I'm not. I'm going to say that a million times just because literally, I have one bad movie on the brain, which is the conversation between what's. What do you think is a good movie and a bad movie. And what do I think is a good movie in a bad movie? Well, Harley Davidson, the Marble man, in my book is a bad movie for one reason. To watch Don Johnson. Seriously, the entire film, turn and go, Harley, you know, Harley, dang it, Harley. And Mickey, like.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, everything about that movie was on the nose.

[Stephen Baldwin]

We're out of here. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Your brother played sort of strongman, enforcer, thug type, right?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Brilliant.

[Adam Carolla]

Had you done the Usual Suspects before or after this movie? Because Daniel better hope what year it's 96. No, the movie took place in the future. That was like 96, number one.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Okay, so your question is, I want.

[Adam Carolla]

To know if you stood on the set after making the Usual Suspects and watch your brother make this flaming pile of cat shit.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I'd have to know the years. If you fact check.

[Adam Carolla]

Marlboro Man, 91.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Okay, so usual Suspects it would have been before I would have been on this set before I did.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, God. Did he dodge a bullet?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

God, if he dodged a bullet.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh.

[Adam Carolla]

Because usual suspect's 95. Cause if you had usual suspects.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Myself, thank goodness.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, the judgment you would have stood.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So coming from you, any judgment?

[Adam Carolla]

So you weren't up to a lot in 91 or 90 when he was shooting this masterpiece known as Harley Davidson.

[Stephen Baldwin]

The marble in 90.

[Adam Carolla]

Congratulations. Still married 35 years.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Thank you to all the people. I just did a big article about my 35th wedding anniversary.

[Adam Carolla]

Very sweet. What were you doing, career wise, when you were on the set hanging with Mickey?

[Stephen Baldwin]

I probably was shooting the Young riders back in 91.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, young riders, Right when I was.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Just getting married, just starting my family living in Tucson, Arizona. Oh, they shot it in Tucson. That's why I was on the set. It was during Young Riders. I just.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, now it's all coming back kind of.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, not all of it.

[Adam Carolla]

And is Mickey. Were you guys partying pretty hard back then?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Not me. No. When I got married, I was sober.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. Mickey was having a good. To say I hung out with Mickey Rourke in the early 90s, late 80s. What about it is to say I'm having a good time.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I can't tell you anything that I even would try to remember. I don't remember all the blank.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm assuming there were good times that were had.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, Mickey's Mickey, bro.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I'm saying.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You know, Mickey, I was with him a few times when some gals, you know, who liked him were with him and, you know, he would, you know, move into certain kind of private environments on occasion.

[Adam Carolla]

Listen, people ask me about Dr. Drew, I got the same answer. Yeah, so I understand.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh, yeah, you're comparing Dr. Drew.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm like, I've been with him and there's been some lady friends, and he does. Oh, yeah, that's a scoop right here on. Listen, I understand how to answer a question, a delicate question, because I've hung out with Drew so long that I understand.

[Stephen Baldwin]

No, I have another question. Segue into Drew.

[Adam Carolla]

Segue into Drew.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Because I had a creepy moment with Dr. Drew recently.

[Adam Carolla]

Sorry, creepy or creatine?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Creepy. Creepy, not creatine.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Stop selling products for Dr. Drew, please.

[Adam Carolla]

Hey, creepy moment. Go ahead, tell me.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So did you do Special Forces?

[Adam Carolla]

I did not.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I thought you did.

[Adam Carolla]

He did it.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I did Special Forces, yes. And then random. In a phone call conversation with Dr. Drew after I did Special Forces, he said he was going to host promotional commercials for my season of Special Forces and he would see me soon because we. And then I never saw him again.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he likes the ladies, he likes the booger sugar, and he likes lying. That's what I know about Dr. Drew, so.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But now he subscribes to all those things.

[Adam Carolla]

All of the above, bro.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, maybe the good lord was looking out for me.

[Adam Carolla]

I think so. Because, yeah, you may have relapsed. True. So Mickey Rourke, back in the day.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I Snorted some creatine.

[Adam Carolla]

You got here. What year did the bald. So Daniel, right? All the Baldwins. There's Backdraft Baldwin. Shit. I was just trying to think of his name.

[Stephen Baldwin]

William.

[Adam Carolla]

William. Took out William. Everybody had success. Some more than others.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yes, of course.

[Adam Carolla]

You sound just like Alec when you do the. Yes, of course, by the way.

[Stephen Baldwin]

No, I want to sound like Alec. I can go way down here.

[Adam Carolla]

Have you been watching the Ralph?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, a little bit. I love the kids. They're great.

[Adam Carolla]

Is it fun? Is it fun? I never know by the way I talk to everyone, you know, the Stallones and the Baldwins. I never know how everyone is doing with each other. But let me just put this out there. As the years wear on and the testosterone levels go down and the prostate enlarges, is it easier just to kind of get on with it with the brothers? Not so much competition. All the days fighting and wrestling.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I tell you, as far as I understand things, that right now all four of the Baldwin brothers prostates are very healthy to this day.

[Adam Carolla]

And is everyone getting along?

[Stephen Baldwin]

But that's just me. That's. That's what. Yeah, I mean, yes and no. Daniel talked on Patrick Bet David about. About getting along and not getting along. My mom passed a few years ago. When, when the 90.

[Adam Carolla]

She's 93, I believe.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

And 2013 maybe. I think I looked this up.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And, and 2022, when, when the parents are gone, the siblings kind of really kind of say what they want to say, you know what I mean? No longer becomes that, you know, you don't want to say anything that'll upset mom and, you know, wait till she gets to heaven, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So all that said, I think there's a cordial disconnect right now. A cordial discord. A cordial disconnect.

[Adam Carolla]

Is there. Are you the only Baldwin that would be considered Republican or conservative or religious? Because what I have found, what I've found is folks that are very progressive talk about tolerance a lot, but they don't really tolerate people who might have different views than them. And especially if you voted for Trump, that can be a problem. If you're religious, that can be a problem, of course. And so while it's not really a deal breaker, it's not really a two way street. So if you work in Hollywood, everyone you know voted for Kamala Harris and everyone you know is an atheist and I don't care. But they would care if you voted for Trump. It's not a two way street with them.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Correct.

[Adam Carolla]

So with you, are you the only outstanding Baldwin.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, I'm retired from politics officially. Like, I've been saying that for three years.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, conservative. Not as a pejorative or anything, just a leaning person.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Let me get it all out. Cause this is. Cause listen, I can. I'm not going to specify why I retired from politics.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I'll say very honestly, in the risk of sounding like a religious zealot, but I'm a big prayer person. Yes. I'm a born again Christian. I'm not Catholic. This. I'm not any denomination. I'm just a guy with a biblical worldview who has accepted the Lord Jesus as my Lord and Savior. And you know all about that. You've had these conversations before. So now I'm just more of a guy who trusts whatever God's got for everybody. And I'm relaxing a lot with it, just. But mostly because not everything is as it appears now. Right. Like, if you think Doge discovered money that was, like, wasn't supposed to be spent over here, imagine the church. Imagine, like if they really doged the church.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Sure.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You get the same thing. So I'm just learning. It's better to just be quiet. You know, you can evangelize, you can say what you want to say, but to kind of the bent you were leaning to there, which is. It's still so polarized.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That now I just want to do one bad movie, talk about fun movies, do fun interviews. And only because I've been there. I'd done that. You know, I was on Don Lemon in September of 2015 and said, Trump's gonna win and I think he'd be. And then I went through that season politically, of my career. But now I'm just trying to. I'm just trying to get to that Adam Carolla place is what.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, listen.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But I'm starting my podcast now, dear.

[Adam Carolla]

Look. So, Steven Daniel, I bet you're all right with Alec. I find to be a very interesting guy who I've always thought was a little victim of his own IQ sometimes where he sort of. There's a kind of an intelligence that turns on itself a little bit sometimes. And I wonder if he's got a little of that. I mean, I know him quite well.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He's a passionate guy.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I know, but that's what I'm saying.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He's an actor.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, he's passionate, but he also has a sort of intelligence that refuses to accept certain things mixed with a little sort of old school.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah. There's a little Marlin Marlon mentality.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Brando. Right. So old school fire, you know, put him up, you know, kind of. Kind of Hollywood, which don't really exist anymore at all. Yeah. But anyway, it's kind of nice to have him ease into his dad bod here. I kind of like the sort of mellow version of him.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, well, he's getting his cardio in, I'm sure.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, her version of him.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He's got seven children.

[Adam Carolla]

So off the air, you and I were talking about the Toyota Grand Prix, which is fabled and it goes way back.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

And everyone from. Everyone has done it. Everyone is anybody. I mean, the George Lucases of it. And I mean it goes. It goes Gene Hackman and it just keeps going.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That was my year.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you were Gene Hat you did it? 1990. I did it five times. But I didn't do it until like 2008 or 9 or something.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I did it in 90.

[Adam Carolla]

90.

[Stephen Baldwin]

It was kind of at that point it was coming, just kind of beginning. The pro celebrity part of it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I did the last one too. Which I think was like the 45th year or something. So it must have started in 80. It's like Donny Osmond. I mean, the list is crazy. So you remember you won in 90 at Grant. @ Toyota. Sorry. At Long Beach.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

On the street course.

[Stephen Baldwin]

On the street course. The pro celebrity race. And you'll remember.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, hold on. In 1990, Andrew, who ran that race? And do you remember?

[Stephen Baldwin]

And do you remember training at Willow springs with Danny McKeever?

[Adam Carolla]

Fast Lane.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Remember Danny McKeever?

[Adam Carolla]

Was he your teacher? Yes. You would go. So here's how it worked. They'd go. You gotta go for four days to Willow Springs, which is in the high desert. Willow Springs has a big track. Two and a half miles or something. It's called the fastest track in the west. I did a professional Trans Am race there. That's the big track. Then they have a smaller. Like streets of willows sort of in the back. And it's a smaller course, but that's where you would train with the Toyota. And you show up and a lot of people stay out there at a hotel and they fucking party. And they get into it like skydivers.

[Stephen Baldwin]

They're out there.

[Adam Carolla]

I like. I went back and forth a little. But you train for four days. Then you come down to Long beach and you practice. You have a qualifying day and blah, blah, blah. So you and your race was, let's see, 91 or 90? 90, 90. All right.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Year I got married.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, young guns. Your brother coming off of Young Riders. Young Riders.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Young Riders TV show for mgm. Josh Brolin. Josh played Buffalo Bill Hickok.

[Adam Carolla]

Josh Brolin was the first year I did it. He was in my class of Toyota Grand Prix.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

And your brother Daniel's fresh off of Harley Davidson. The marble man.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He was in it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, so now who's in that class? So you win that race?

[Stephen Baldwin]

I won that race.

[Adam Carolla]

You won the celebrity portion.

[Stephen Baldwin]

The celebrity portion.

[Adam Carolla]

Did they have a pro and a celebrity back then?

[Stephen Baldwin]

So here's the Rahal story I was hoping to tell you.

[Adam Carolla]

Bobby Rahul.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Bobby Rahul, legendary. So they'd run the day before, the day before time trials qualifying. So you'd qualify on a time trial race. So who went the fastest however many times, you know, then they take those numbers and then the next day, which was the day before the real race, they'd run a race.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, they would.

[Stephen Baldwin]

For pole position for the race the next day. Oh.

[Adam Carolla]

So they wouldn't just go off the fastest lap. They have a race for pole.

[Stephen Baldwin]

For pole in the race.

[Adam Carolla]

That's a weird one to me because if you had to want to watch Formula One, you know, drive to survive. They have qualifying on Saturday, race on Sunday, and it's the fastest laps on the polls. So why have a race? But. All right, go ahead.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Because this let some of the celebrities figure out and be tested who could navigate with the professionals in that race.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Rahul's in the race.

[Adam Carolla]

Bobby Rahal, famous.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So you're going to figure out what other guys we should look up. If they have the list of who was in the, like, what were the.

[Adam Carolla]

Pros in my 90 year, it's all chronicled somewhere. My guys tell me on the computer.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So we do the qualifier race the day before, and I'm a much higher pole position because of, you know, the allowances they give, you know, from they start.

[Adam Carolla]

Now at some point, they take the celebrities and they put them up front in their own pole. You know how. Fastest lap all the way down 18 or 19, maybe 17. And then they take the professionals and they're supposed to start them 30 seconds behind, correct. In their own order.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So they do the same thing on the day before race. Okay, So I get to lap three and I'm just watching my lines and I'm in this little geostorm that I could flip this car easy if I.

[Adam Carolla]

If I. Geostorm, yes.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Toyota Geostorm. Wasn't that.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I think we gotta look it up. I think Tio was a Chevrolet.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Or was that. Am I thinking Denver? I Could be spacing about Denver.

[Adam Carolla]

You're thinking about Denver. You're thinking about Nick.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What was the Toyota cars? Celica.

[Adam Carolla]

Celica, right. You're driving a Celica.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So I'm in this regular production car. They've kind of just tweaked a little bit to race with. So you really can't go crazy. You can't. You have to really be careful driving. So I'm going as fast as I can, Breaking last, getting on the gas, hitting the right apex.

[Alicia Krause]

It's doing all the.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And I look up like 15, you know, a quarter of the way into, like lap four, I look up and literally in my rear view mirror, it just says Ray Hull backwards. It's on his windshield above his driving is Ray Hull in the car they gave him, right? So I look up and it says Rahul. And I'm like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, holy Bobby's like inches from the back of my car. And I just wasn't paying attention. So sudden I'm like, well, fuck this guy. Like, what am I? Like, he's interested. But like, does this mean keep going? Where are you, Willow Spring?

[Adam Carolla]

No, this is Long Beach.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Long Beach. This is. This is on the course that we will race.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. What part of it? You know, I don't even.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I'm just humming along. And he's behind me because he.

[Adam Carolla]

We have some footage of this. So says the. So says the Internet.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I love it.

[Adam Carolla]

And by the way, you can still should be able to find a list of celebrities from 1990 that you put on my list here. But go ahead.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Sorry this weekend. But this is amazing because there I am.

[Adam Carolla]

Because, Razor, you're running some unusual racing gloves here.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, you know, you gotta.

[Adam Carolla]

Young riders. Oh, you're wearing like.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He was a wild man. So I gotta. I gotta stick that. I gotta stay to that. Stick to that method. For these driving purposes.

[Adam Carolla]

You can use any buffalo techniques out there.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh, I don't know if you can hear a over the sound of the engines, but if you do, you'll know it's me.

[Alicia Krause]

The television actor seemed a bit nervous about.

[Adam Carolla]

He was into Larry Zonko from the Miami Dolphins. Motorcyclist Bob Hurricane.

[Jeff Abraham]

Hannah.

[Adam Carolla]

Hurricane. Hannah. Boat racer Chip Hanauer. But everyone would be racing as Toyota representative Les Unger explains one of the neat things about the toy across celebrity race. The fact that. All right, find me the list of who. Dwight Yocum. Right? Yeah. Well, the stupid list is on the Internet, so find the stupid.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Look at these cars, bro. They were.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, okay. Johnny Rutherford. Pro indie guy. There's Baldwin.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right?

[Adam Carolla]

Which Baldwin is that? Daniel. All right, there's Johnny Rutherford, IndyCar driver. So there's the pro class and the celebrity class.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right?

[Adam Carolla]

And the pro class. And the pro class comes up pretty fast on the celebrity class.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oftentimes they catch up to us at some point.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Not always. Not always. Sometimes if the guy's fast, couple fast guys in front, they won't. But shit happens and whatever.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So I don't get out of Ray Hall's way.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Bobby Rahal.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And I get like, probably, I told you. One third into lap four, I see Rahal. I get two, I get three. I get almost to the beginning of the fifth lap, which slows down into a hairpin. So you got to come really break.

[Adam Carolla]

Hard at the front of Shoreline.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Whatever. Yeah, whatever it is. So I go real fast. He's behind me, and he waits Adam. And right when I hit my brakes about 150, 200ft out, you know, doing 90 miles an hour, he comes right up. He waits, and I go wide like this, about 100ft out. And he just taps the back right.

[Adam Carolla]

Side of my car right at the hairpin, Right.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And like, my car went. Stuffed me right into the wall.

[Adam Carolla]

But you won the race the next day.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Can I tell you what he told me after the accident?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I walk up to him and I go, hey, what the fuck is your problem? And he's a big, tall fucking guy. Yeah, Ray Hill was big, dude. And I walk up to him and go, like, was that a joke? Was that, like, I had to know. Like, did you deliberately do that? You know what he said? Hey, man, what the fuck is you from? I go, was that an accident? He goes, next time, get the fuck out of my way.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Adam didn't hesitate. This was the difference between knowing and not knowing what these guys are like.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, there's a famous story. We got the list. You can put it up there. I can read the list. See, we got winner in the pro celeb in the pro division, Bobby Rahal. All right. Stephen Baldwin wins the celebrity on the same lap.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I mean, that's a great name to be right underneath, eh?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Johnny Ruther Che. Trying to think of my name. Is that Ed Arnold? Let's see. Larry Zonka.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You gotta text me this.

[Adam Carolla]

Peter Cetera from Chicago. Yeah. And I'm trying to read it for Dwight Yocum. I know. Let's see. What do we got? What's the bottom one over there? Dustin? I don't know who that is. All right, so There's a funny story, a kind of interesting story. Rahal story. Ray hall is driving. He's driving with Newman out here after Newman comes back, I remember from Le Mans, and he's driving a Porsche 935, which I own, which is a Newman car. And they come out here and they go to like Road America or something like that. And Newman's lap times are not good on this 935 Porsche, which is a big behemoth, super powerful, finicky and difficult car to drive. And Newman is saying, I don't know where to brake or I need to know how to get around this track faster. Now it's Rahal's driving and Newman's driving. It's an endurance race. So one guy jumps out, the other guy jumps in for an hour, then they jump out again. That's how they do this endurance race. If you got one guy who's going slow, that's going to hurt your team. I mean, think of it as, think of it as a relay race. And you got one guy who's real slow. So you want to coach him up slower. So he's. Yeah, slower. So Rahal, who's super fast, who does Indy and does sports car racing, does everything, tells Newman jump. Or Newman probably says, take me for some laps on this track, some hot laps. I want to know where to downshift and where to turn in and stuff like that.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Let me see what you're going to do.

[Adam Carolla]

But there's no passenger seat. It's a gutted Porsche 935 and you don't have a passenger seat because why would you.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So he just gets in.

[Adam Carolla]

So he puts like a milk crate in there on the passenger side. This is Newman, like at a, you know, 58, hangs onto the roll bar and tells Rahal to take him on some hot ass laps in a 700 horsepower 935 around Road America. So that's a good story.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Newman's Newman.

[Adam Carolla]

So they put you in the wall, but you're able to repair the car, get out the following day and win the celebrity division of the race.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Number two, behind the man that stuffed me in the wall, Bobby Rahal.

[Adam Carolla]

Want you to get the fuck out.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Of the way next time. Get the fuck out of. Literally like a puppy, you know, like a gizmo. I was like, it melted, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

I was like, sorry, what, what movies, by the way, are you breaking down on your new podcast? One bad movie. Because I got. I'm already putting Marlboro man and the Dak.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Daniel, let Me, let me, let me, let me, let me. Let me do what I do best now.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Hey, Adam, ever been in Bad Movie? Stop. Okay? Just let that all start to download, because on my podcast, which I hope you'll come join us and have fun in the next couple of years, because we're getting kooky over there on the one bad movie. But it's just like, we're talking now about whatever, and this conversation is only going to be what it's going to be based on. Adam and Steven, like, chatting intellectually and humorously, but the standard Hollywood actor interview about a project coming out of this. And, you know, oh, if the Adam Carolla show got bought for a billion dollars by Amazon, right? You know, you'd have to do interviews about that, right. To say how great Jeff Bezos is.

[Adam Carolla]

Love him.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I want to know what. Well, I want to know your worst movie is. I haven't done a lot of movies like you, but I have movies. I don't know if you put in Rotten Tomatoes. My lowest score. My lowest score. I want to. I want to. I want to know because I've been in people's movies.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I already know you've been in some.

[Adam Carolla]

Not. Not a lot.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Humdinger.

[Adam Carolla]

I've done more than you think. Maybe more than I. Maybe more than I think.

[Stephen Baldwin]

This is what backstory on one bad movie is. When I started developing this with my guy, I've done over a hundred. I've done over 100 films, and I literally, from memory, I went, well, Harpies, Sharks in Venice, Earth Storm, like the Toronto ones for the cash. So sorry. But now I can be honest about it, because it's 30 years later. I don't care.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But. But I thought there was about seven, like, Zinger bad that you'd done.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, just bad out of a hundred.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah. I thought there was seven.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Stephen Baldwin]

There was over 20. That's not good.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, how do you define it?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Is that just Mama needs a new pair of shoes, Daddy.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I get it. But, I mean, who decided it was a bad movie?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, I think. And again, you've had great success in real movies as a. As a guy.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I made a few movies that I was in that. But people didn't really put me in good movies.

[Stephen Baldwin]

No, you've never cameoed in a couple.

[Adam Carolla]

Of good movies or, I don't know, Rotten Tomatoes. They'll tell. Where is it? Let's go. I really have had no acting career at all. Well, I made movies that I starred in because I made them.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Were they Any good?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Did they make money?

[Adam Carolla]

Nah. Okay. Lowest rated I was in was Mansome. Is that true? I don't remember that one. That sounds right. 24%. Hold on.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I have to make noise.

[Adam Carolla]

Not that bad. Mansome. Wow.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What's Mansome?

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. What's the.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What is it? And the best issue. Look at this.

[Adam Carolla]

I was in Manson Bronson.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He was on my show.

[Adam Carolla]

Bronson Pincho was on my show. Really?

[Stephen Baldwin]

He's already been on one bed. He's one of my heroes.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm. Manson. Will Arnett. Yeah. It sounds familiar. It sounds familiar.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Great poster.

[Adam Carolla]

Zach Galifianakis.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah. That's a big movie.

[Adam Carolla]

There you go.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That's a studio film.

[Adam Carolla]

Highest rated movie. Let's see what that.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Gotta remember that. I gotta write that down.

[Adam Carolla]

Highest. Oh, Wreck It Ralph.

[Stephen Baldwin]

It's a really good bad movie.

[Adam Carolla]

Manson the 24 Hour More, which is a doc, but it's a doc that I made. But I wasn't in the doc. Ah, you produced the Newman Doc is 92%.

[Stephen Baldwin]

No, that's great. That's. You can't wreck it doesn't come into Newman's.

[Adam Carolla]

Wreck it Ralph is 87 and 86.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Big hit.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. That was a big hit. Big hit. I think the Hammer was probably pretty high movie. I made that one I starred in. That was 82 and 90 with the. With the peoples.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What's the Hammer? Can I see it?

[Adam Carolla]

It's a boxing film.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Sounds like a bad movie.

[Adam Carolla]

It sounds bad, but it was actually Sports Illustrated best sports picture of the year or whatever.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And you produced it.

[Adam Carolla]

I wrote it, I starred in it. Produced it or something that. Yeah, yeah. All right, now, what's your worst. What do you think your worst Rotten Tomatoes movie is?

[Stephen Baldwin]

It's either one of those few that I probably. Harpies.

[Adam Carolla]

Harpies.

[Stephen Baldwin]

H A R, P, I. Sounds like herpes, but it's Harpies.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. What did that. It's gotta be lower than.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But it never came out in theaters.

[Adam Carolla]

Is it gonna be lower than 24%?

[Stephen Baldwin]

It's gonna be lower than 10%.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really? Single digits.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What does it say? Stan Lee's Harpies.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, no. But there's no score for it. It's so low it can't be measured. It's so bad. It's immeasurable. Immeasurably bad. Immeasurably bad.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yes, I've arrived.

[Adam Carolla]

How is it that everybody had an acting career in your family? That seems.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I'm so sorry. Am I okay?

[Adam Carolla]

In Here that seems statistically almost impossible that everyone was in movies.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, well, no, I'll never have four siblings directly made so many, you know, features or content, et cetera, et cetera. You have to understand, Alec does a podcast. You know, here's the thing, he's got 400 episodes of that. Yeah, he's busy too. Billy's acting all over the world. Daniel, you know, has a new kid.

[Adam Carolla]

Like alec, so he's homes.com. some might say homes.com is the best home shopping site. It may be homes.com's super comprehensive and transparent directory for their agents. It's all there. Or maybe it'[e-mail] is the only site that always directly connects you with the listing agent who knows the home the best. Perhaps it's homes.com. well, the fact that they have the most in depth neighborhood content of any home shopping site that's extensively researched to highlight the personality of of each neighborhood. Homes.com goes above and beyond to bring home shoppers the in depth info they need to find the right home. That's right. That's why I go to homes.com homes.com. that's homes.com. we've done your homework.

[Dawson]

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[Adam Carolla]

Oh, sorry. Breaking news. Usual suspects. Highest. I think we probably could have figured that one out. Lowest. With a zero at zero.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And it's not the Stanley.

[Adam Carolla]

It's not ready.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So wait, so I've gone from two categories of immeasurable.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Stephen Baldwin]

A zero and below zero.

[Adam Carolla]

You were so bad that it could not be measured. That's number one. It's like having a penis that's so small no room could calculate it. You understand? That's what you have. Yes, Adam Carolla, Metaphorically, that's what you have. Zero. Let me argue. Let me try to defend year zero. Could I?

[Stephen Baldwin]

I don't know what it is yet.

[Adam Carolla]

It's Slap shot two.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Ooh, that hurts.

[Adam Carolla]

That hurts.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So wait a second. Rotten Tomatoes said zero on Slap shot two.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, speaking of Paul Newman. Slap shot. Let me see if I can.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He's rolling over in his race car, for God's sake.

[Adam Carolla]

Let me see if I can soften the blow a little bit for you on this. Zero. First things first, and then I'll tell.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You the dumb reason why I did it. Go ahead.

[Adam Carolla]

The reason Slap Shot one was beloved.

[Stephen Baldwin]

No, it's.

[Adam Carolla]

If there was no original slap shot, this thing would be Soaring with a 7 or an 8%, maybe even 9. Soaring. Soaring. You know what? Let's go double digits. 13.

[Alicia Krause]

13.

[Adam Carolla]

You'll be.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You're mean.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, I'm saying you're mean. It's how beloved the first one was. Now you're being punished. Okay, that's number one. And let me say this, too.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm sorry if this sounds condescending, but it is almost as hard to get a zero as it is to get 100.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Does this mean you're not doing my.

[Adam Carolla]

I've had the same. I said the same thing with my son after he took the SATs. I said, Boy, do you realize how.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I got a really bad score on the SATs? Do you realize.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, a zero. How much talent it takes. It's almost statistically impossible to give. Most men could live a thousand lives here. A thousand lives.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Give me the list on Rotten Tomatoes of other movies that have gotten a zero. Thank you. Okay, pump your brakes, Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

There are many.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I'm proud of my bad movies.

[Adam Carolla]

Careers that spanned 50 years and never gotten a zero. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Stephen Baldwin]

But let me just say something. You're not gonna regret this. Only because you're gonna partner with me on this in the future once I educate you about the trend of bad movies. Right now. Bad movies are trending, Adam.

[Adam Carolla]

Are they?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

I did not know.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I just went to an autograph signing with Pauly Shure, Washington Summer Con. If I can mention, it's really fabulous. And this guy comes up with his daughter. I think it's Grace is the girl's name who comes up and says, my daddy just showed me Biodome and it was so funny. And her favorite movie of mine is called Sharks in Venice, where I'm a shark expert that goes to Venice, Italy, because somehow, mysteriously, sharks are in the canals of Venice, which is not geographically possible. So it's a sci fi movie. You know, it's me going like, you know, damn it, I'm a shark expert. I don't know about gondolas, for God's sakes. Look at the bite in that gondola. My God.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, where do you think that's at on Rotten Tomatoes?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Sure you're good. You got a great team. How does that work? 20, 23. 23.

[Adam Carolla]

Feeling generous today, aren't you? That doesn't. I'm not sniffing a Two. That movie starts with a one where I come from. Where do you think biodome's at? Because that's hard. Where the hell do you come from? I don't know. I've never seen it. I'm just on a roll.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Biodome? No way. No. Biodome would be like a fifth 50. I'm just. I'm just kidding. I have no idea. I have. I don't know anything about Rotten Tomatoes.

[Adam Carolla]

We're gonna find out.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I only look at Rotten Tomatoes when they talk bad about Tom Cruise. Then I'll read those.

[Adam Carolla]

You ever work with Tom Cruise?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Born on the 4th of July is the picture with Oliver Stone. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Sharks in Venice 14. That's not bad. Wait, it's being waved off. It's being waved off.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Wait, what was that?

[Adam Carolla]

The audience.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What does that mean?

[Adam Carolla]

That's what the audience.

[Jeff Abraham]

No critic rating.

[Adam Carolla]

No critic. But 14 with the. I totally started with a one.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What is that? We're saying that voice just said no critic. What? It was. Does that mean zero again? Am I zero?

[Jeff Abraham]

Only one person reviewed that movie. Would you like to hear the review?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I would.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Take a lashing.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's the reveal.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But it just points everyone to one bad movie. Thank you. I can't.

[Jeff Abraham]

It's a simple one sentence.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You know that cow is.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, wait a minute. I saw the review on Spinal Tap. It's just called Shit Sandwich. All right, that's a deep spinal cut. Spinal Tap cut.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Who's the gal on the one sheet there with me? Sharks in Venice. What's her name?

[Adam Carolla]

Who is that?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Here it comes. Here it comes. The review. What's the co star's name? It says Stephen Baldwin in the cast. And who? Uh huh. Let's find it. What's her last name?

[Adam Carolla]

Vanessa Jalapeno Johansson. Oh, is it some Scarlett Johansson connection or something?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Her sister.

[Adam Carolla]

Her sister Scarlet.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Sister Vanessa.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Along with Stephen Baldwin, she will solve the shock problem in Venice, Italy. I assure you.

[Adam Carolla]

Scarlet and Alex should get together and have a laugh about this movie. All right, review. Sorry, Dawson.

[Jeff Abraham]

Well, they broke it down to one sentence. And it says at one point the sharks appear to chew a limb off the Baldwin. But like a kid's cartoon hero, he's fine. In the next scene.

[Stephen Baldwin]

When you listen, when you're on the poster. Daddy.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. You gotta live.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You gotta live.

[Adam Carolla]

Mm.

[Jeff Abraham]

She called you the Baldwin throughout the Baldwin.

[Adam Carolla]

That's condescending. Fuck that.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, I don't. I don't interpret it that way, Adam. At all.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what? You're right.

[Stephen Baldwin]

As the youngest Baldwin. I just receive it as the Baldwin.

[Adam Carolla]

That's the tip of the cap.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You're right. Why not?

[Adam Carolla]

You're right. Let's look at it.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Stay at the tip, Adam.

[Adam Carolla]

Beside the tip.

[Jeff Abraham]

This might cheer you up, Stephen. The final sentence in the review is, overall, Sharks in Venice fails to live up to its snappy title. But it's just awful enough for a certain kind of film fan to find it delightful.

[Adam Carolla]

There you go. All right, then.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Thank you.

[Adam Carolla]

Dawson, what was the other movie you were talking about?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Harpies. Harpies. Now, can you pull up the trailer for Harpies? There's only. There's no other way. The special effects are so bad. Or even, like, if you just roll the movie, there might not even be a trailer. You know those movies.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That don't even have the trailer.

[Adam Carolla]

Tom Cruise. That's what I wanted to ask you.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Born on the 4th of July. Yeah, I'm in the high school sequences.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Stephen Baldwin]

With Cher's boyfriend. Remember him? Rob. Rob.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, Cher's had a couple boyfriends. She had Bagel Boy who wasn't even Jewish.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Rob.

[Adam Carolla]

Is that Rob?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Wasn't that the guy that worked at the restaurant or something?

[Adam Carolla]

And one guy everyone called, we called Bagel Boy.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I think that's him.

[Adam Carolla]

And we got the Harpies trailer, but.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He'S in Born on the Foot. Yeah, you got it. You got to show the Harpies trailer. Because when you see the Harpies flying from the special effects. Adam, it's just. There's no other word. I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

You gotta know.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

Narrow it down.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I have no. Dawson. Help me. Please. Son.

[Jeff Abraham]

2007.

[Adam Carolla]

2007.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Any more lashings? I just don't know what I'm gonna do.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, here we go. It has been prophesied scrolls. The harpy slave will descend from the.

[Dawson]

Heavens to save us.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You think you got problems?

[Adam Carolla]

I'd be careful with that. Oh, this is serious movie. Wow.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Look, it fits.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you've unlocked something in a museum. Oh, that's good acting. That's Lidville esque accent.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Look. Right.

[Adam Carolla]

Where the hell am I? You land in a different land.

[Stephen Baldwin]

There they are. What the hell was that thing?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, man, that's my father wounded there. I'm going. Not since vampire succubuses.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I'll take care of this.

[Alicia Krause]

You are the Harpy slayer that has been foretold.

[Adam Carolla]

What the hell on Lord Ker. You want Voran, right?

[Stephen Baldwin]

That's right.

[Adam Carolla]

How then join us. Serious is this movie. Then you can go home.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You got a deal.

[Adam Carolla]

Very soon we will travel to the future. Is this movie Tongue and Cheek?

[Stephen Baldwin]

You are the harpy Slayer. That has been foretold.

[Adam Carolla]

How much of this movie do they mean?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Look. Yes, yes, yes. Hell hath no fury like a harpy. Like a harpy slayer. Stephen Baldwin.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Stanley.

[Adam Carolla]

Stan Lee wrote that.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You just did the trailer. Perfect. You just said the.

[Adam Carolla]

That was Stan Lee.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Stan Lee wrote that. Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

He must add dementia at that point, right?

[Stephen Baldwin]

I think he's probably licensed that title a few times.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Because that's basically now. Now walk in my shoes, I get a phone call. Hey, Stan. It's based on a Stan Lee.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You know you're going to Uzbekistan to shoot it.

[Adam Carolla]

Huh?

[Stephen Baldwin]

You know, you're going to Bulgaria, you're.

[Adam Carolla]

Getting paid and you're traveling.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, but. But the note that, like, the. The storyline, the script, I read, you know. You know what I mean? I read in advance that I was the harpy slayer. That had been foretold, right? And then I went, how much will they foretold?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I need money. Well, listen, tell me this. I don't know, you know, I'm a comedian. I'll do corporate gigs for the asphalt convention in Florida, whatever. And people are like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm getting paid. That's what I'm doing. I'm trying to make money. Sure, it's okay. It's better than my old job. I just have real jobs, and this is not one of them. Yeah, okay, but your daughter just made a billion dollars, right?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, she sold her company.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my God. If my daughter made a billion dollars.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That would go insane.

[Adam Carolla]

I would go insane.

[Stephen Baldwin]

How old are your children?

[Adam Carolla]

They're 19. They're twins. And no one's making a billion dollars, but give him a chance. Okay. You know, but what is, you know.

[Stephen Baldwin]

It took Haley three years.

[Adam Carolla]

Took her three years to make a billion dollars.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What did you think? There was just some, you know.

[Adam Carolla]

No.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Rotten tomatoes.

[Adam Carolla]

36 months.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

A full and every bit of that. 36 months. Briefly make a billion dollars on a. On a cosmetic line.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Briefly. The cool part of it is, yes, she's super smart.

[Adam Carolla]

Huh?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Smart in business, evidently. Succeeded as a model prior to, you know, everything, you know, she's doing now. Yeah, but the cool part was she actually had an offer to do something pretty big and cool in cosmetics a couple of years ago and didn't and.

[Adam Carolla]

Said, I'm doing my own line.

[Stephen Baldwin]

She wanted what the product was for her company to be really something that, you know, it wasn't Just bs and I'll put her name on it. It really was something, but. But the reason it's succeeding is because the folks are responding to. It actually works as a hydration. You know all that. You want me to send you some? I would like some, but there's a new mist. They just did that. I'm going to send you.

[Adam Carolla]

What is protocol as a dad who has given birth, or in part given birth to this billionaire? Is there a thing. I mean, listen, Jay Moore was just in here. Jay Moore?

[Stephen Baldwin]

His kid's a billionaire.

[Adam Carolla]

No, he's a billionaire because he's married to. He's married to a bus. Genie Bus. He's married to Jeanie Buss. And the Lakers just sold for 10 billion.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't want to take any bloom off your rose, but some people have multiple.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, that's his wife now.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's his wife now. Obviously there's a prenup involved, but. So here's what I'm saying. I make more money than my sister, but I don't make so much money that I can just peel her off a couple hundred grand and forget about it. I'm sort of make good money, but I also have lots of obligations financially. So then you get into this sort of Jeanie bus thing where it's like, okay, there's a prenup, but Jay, do you have to work ever again?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Like, you know, he's probably got a membership at the golf club.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You know what I mean?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, Jay's a good dude. It keeps it pretty real and all that stuff. But, I mean. Okay, your daughter, she likes you.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, That's a good start. Yes, that's a good start.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Sure.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. And now you can never. I mean, if you said, I gotta go to Bulgaria to do Lackey 7, would she go, Harpy 7? Harpy 7, would she go, what are they paying you?

[Stephen Baldwin]

And Slayer returns.

[Adam Carolla]

And then you'd go, well, with per diem, it's probably almost $181,000. And then she'd go, let me just go out to the ashtray, the Bentley, see if I can scrape that together so you don't have to get on an airplane and do Harpy 7 in Bulgaria. Is that a scenario that might happen? No, no, no.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, just listen. My family across the board is trying to invest in its own future.

[Adam Carolla]

You and your wife and everybody.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, Brothers, sisters, family, you know, your brothers, sisters, you know, blah, blah, blah.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you have sons as well?

[Stephen Baldwin]

No, just two daughters.

[Adam Carolla]

Two daughters, yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And my first Daughter's married to a great guy, very successful. With my granddaughter Iris, who's 5, very successful. And so I'm blessed that my two daughters married two great guys. But after that, you have a lot of scenarios with, you know, the Nepo baby. Ness. Ness. Where you have parents that just feel like they need to be involved, and I don't subscribe to that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I get it.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You know what I mean? I let my kids do what they're doing, and then if they. You know, if they want to throw a boomerang at me, then I'll call them back.

[Adam Carolla]

But would it be fair to say that she would not let you fall on your face if the wheel just came off the wagon?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

If the mortgage was due.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yes. Both of my children with. Without. Are the kinds of kids that if I ever struggled.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Then, yeah. Oh, sure. They probably would bless me beyond measure.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. So, yeah. Like, in a weird way, it's like a safe.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But you realize what you're doing right now because what am I doing? If one of your kids might ever really become wealthy, you're screwing yourself.

[Adam Carolla]

Am I? Wait, I think I'm. I think I'm setting the table for them to give me money.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But don't. No pressure, Adam. Just let. Let him make the cash.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm letting them go.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I'm just saying. You're drooling.

[Adam Carolla]

Is it un. It must be unsuccessful.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Make a billion kids.

[Adam Carolla]

And. And Haley, Fan of your wife?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Huge.

[Adam Carolla]

Huge.

[Stephen Baldwin]

On the phone. Almost every day.

[Adam Carolla]

Every day.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Almost every day.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, that's good. That's. That's good, because as long as you're connected to her, she won't let the wheels come off the way.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, yeah, but the sweet part of my kids, too, is no matter. In the wake of whatever their success is, their dad remains the same. I've always been the same way. You know, you're gonna tell your daughter the truth.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And Hailey looks like you. It's a distinctive look, but in the eyes. Very, very much. Just very much your look. So whatever she's made, she owes you for your aesthetic.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That's what I would say in the karma of it. Amen. But I'm the kind of guy that I want her to take advantage of the time and energy she has to do everything she's doing now so she can chill and retire and do whatever she wants in the future.

[Adam Carolla]

Jesus, what a world. It's weird. The entrepreneur. I didn't even know what an entrepreneur was when I was young. Did you?

[Stephen Baldwin]

I mean, it's on my Instagram. It says entrepreneur.

[Adam Carolla]

I didn't talk to anyone.

[Dawson]

I didn't know anybody who knows what it means.

[Adam Carolla]

I thought you could have your own Taco Bell. You know, that's kind of what I knew.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

But I didn't know anything further than that.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Or your own cosmetics company.

[Adam Carolla]

I didn't know you could do that when I was a kid or when I was 20.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But, like, for example, another group of guys that came and did one bad movie is the Lawrence brothers. Remember Joey Lawrence?

[Adam Carolla]

Whoa.

[Stephen Baldwin]

They got a podcast now called Brotherly Love. It's a very cute thing. And. And one of their corporate sponsors. Is it Man Wipes? Is that what it's called? Man Wipes. Man Wipes. Those guys are getting money. They're getting a check from something called Man Wipes.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, listen, I was in Dudescape, or what movie was I in?

[Dawson]

Dude.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But you and I should find a reason we should come mansome.

[Adam Carolla]

I was in Sorry, but we should.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Come up with something. We should do Mansom too, but, like, the really shitty one.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, go to Bulgaria.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll tell you what. Why don't we do this? Why don't we do this? Oh, no. After the show, you just text Haley and you go, look, they want me and Carolla to go to Bulgaria to do Man Some three. Or you could wire over just a little bit of scratch, and I could save myself the humiliation with having to try to act with Adam Carolla. And then she'd go, question mark, and you go, don't worry about who he is.

[Stephen Baldwin]

When I'm done here, I'm gonna text her and say, you ever heard of Adam Carolla? Question mark? Just let her do her research, quick.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, she's gonna be like, no, that guy. No, that's funny. That's very funny. And she married Justin Bieber. Right. Which is crazy. And he was Justin Bieber. Do you remember the first time you met Justin Bieber?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, I introduced him.

[Adam Carolla]

You introduced Justin and Haley?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah. It's a very famous video.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Correct.

[Adam Carolla]

I did not know that.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah. I took her to hear him sing Good Morning America.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Stephen Baldwin]

And then after, years later, they. They reconnected.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But you made the entree.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Completely. Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. What? Why? Or were you just going, hey, I love Justin Bieber singing?

[Stephen Baldwin]

She just wanted to go hear him sing. Yeah. See, the. The. The. He did a show Good Morning America. I think that film's at 30 Rock, right? So because of Alec and 30 Rock and just Alec and SNL, he's hosted so many times I've been to that place and know the side doors and I know the security of the building and did it. So yeah, I was able to. To take her to. To come hear him sing a show live that morning with.

[Adam Carolla]

On Good Morning America.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Whatever. Yeah, whatever.

[Adam Carolla]

Whatever the morning was.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, whatever. The 30 Rock Morning show was 6:00am, you know, madness.

[Adam Carolla]

He was like in his teens or something back then, right?

[Stephen Baldwin]

He was 14.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Stephen Baldwin]

14.

[Adam Carolla]

And she liked him. Did you know who he was?

[Stephen Baldwin]

She was a fan.

[Adam Carolla]

She was a fan. Did you know who he was?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Not really.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, not really. I mean, listen. Okay, so if you get to be a celebrity sometimes, my daughter, she'll go, oh, I love Modern Family. And then, you know, you make a few phone calls and you get to go to a table read of Modern Family and you bring her and then if she likes some country Lady Gaga. She wanted to go see Lady. I think she wanted to go, oh, she's booked at Kimmel's. Can you get me to go meet Lady Gaga at Kimmel's or whoever, whoever it is. It's one of those situations. But it's the Biebs.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh, can I do that?

[Adam Carolla]

No, no, I'm saying that's what you do for Haley. She goes, I'm gonna see Bieber. You know the place, 30 Rock, good morning, whatever. And you go, yeah, I think I can facilitate that.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, I think it was more. She knew he was performing. So if there's tickets, can you get tickets?

[Adam Carolla]

Uh huh.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So I said yes, but she didn't know we didn't need tickets.

[Adam Carolla]

We have the video. So says someone. Look, that alone is worth $70 million. I think it's Carson Daly. That's Carson, right?

[Stephen Baldwin]

You're so funny. You're gonna get me in trouble.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm just saying.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Carson Daly. This is.

[Adam Carolla]

This is Carson. Carson's an old friend.

[Stephen Baldwin]

This is today. Remembering this.

[Adam Carolla]

That's you. Meaning? All right, there it is.

[Alicia Krause]

There's Stephen, Haley's father.

[Adam Carolla]

There, that introduction. Oh, look at the classic Bieber's shake of the hair.

[Alicia Krause]

That means I like you, I think again.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Carson Daly was discovered by Jimmy Kimmel, by the way.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Was he? Yeah, Carson's funny.

[Adam Carolla]

Carson's a great guy.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Sweet dude.

[Adam Carolla]

He lived in Palm Springs with his dad at a stepdad, at a pro shop at a golf course over there. And Jimmy was doing mornings in Palm Springs and Carson became like his intern. He called him Kid Carson. And then eventually when Jimmy moved out to LA to do Kevin and Bean at kroc, he took Carson with him.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Kevin and Bean.

[Adam Carolla]

And then Carson started doing stuff on kroq, and then Carson went to mtv, and now. That's how that works. That's how it works. Yeah. He literally found Carson.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But you realize I did. You and the Drew show.

[Adam Carolla]

I remember you several times.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I remember back in the day, Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

I do. You know. You know, the only thing I remember about it, you were eating a protein bar and you were chomping on it, and we were, like, starting, and you were like, hold on, one more bite.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I got caramel on my teeth.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that's all I remember. I have no idea what you're plugging or what we're talking about.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I don't even know. Can we look up years that Stephen Baldwin was on that show? Can we look that up, or do we not give a shit?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, he was booked to be in there in 99, but Rahal put him into the wall. Totally. And bumped him.

[Stephen Baldwin]

True story.

[Adam Carolla]

It was just me and Bobby Rahal.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I'll never forget that.

[Adam Carolla]

Graham Rahal's son, who, by the way, races professionally at Indy.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh, now, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Bobby Rahal's son is Graham. And I'm just finishing the Bobby Rahal documentaries. I told you off there.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And will you independently release that?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I'm trying to think. We've made quite a few docs. Some we release independently, some will release, and then Netflix picks them up depending on, you know, what's in the zeitgeist.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Submit docs to you. Do you take submissions or do you just develop your own?

[Adam Carolla]

We either. Well, so there's three ways we'll do it, Right. One at the beginning was me going, I want to make a doc about Paul Newman's race car driving. Just me. I have his cars. I know the story. I'm interested in it. I read the book, and so I just paid for it. And we just made a doc. And then later on, you get a version where you go, someone should make a Krock doc or Bobby Rahal doc or whomever, and somebody funds it. And then we make the doc like an espn, Right? Except for this is not espn, but it's like. And then at some point, I'd made a Carroll Shelby doc, a Ford versus Ferrari doc. I call it the 24 hour war, which I think is a better term with Ford vs Ferrari at Le Mans. And then the movie comes out and gets a bunch of heat. And now we have a Ford vs Ferrari doc that we made before the movie came out.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And that's out.

[Adam Carolla]

It's out. Yeah, we made it before the movie came out. And then we made the Carroll Shelby. Shelby American doc. Before that, Matt Damon played. And now Netflix comes to us and they go, oh, you got these docs about this stuff that people are talking about. So then they bought it, but that was just kind of dumb luck, right? And then out now when we went mad, the Unauthorized Story of Mad magazine, which is available as we speak.

[Stephen Baldwin]

A new doc.

[Adam Carolla]

A new doc. And then sometimes there's docs that's gonna do great. Hopefully. Sometimes there's docs where people. But can I blow your mind started on the dock.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Know where the Mad magazine doc needs to have a booth?

[Adam Carolla]

Hmm.

[Stephen Baldwin]

At the autograph signing things.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, with you and Polly.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, you could hire me to do it if you want. Well, I'll cover that fucking base for you, girl.

[Adam Carolla]

You gotta go to Spokane, and I'm.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Not doing the Bulgaria race.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, tell Haley I wish daddy could have lunch, but he's gotta go to Spokane to hang out with Polly Shore, and she'll go, what do they pay you? What do they pay you?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Cause I'll double it not to go do that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, do the tour. No, you're missing the point of my.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Whole inspiration now is. No, let me go do this for you over there.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, well, I think we have the poster. One of the posters.

[Alicia Krause]

James.

[Stephen Baldwin]

My. My guy James Moore is outside. James, just remember, at the next autograph signing for Stevie B. I want to promote Adam's Mad magazine doc.

[Adam Carolla]

Thank you. He says, quentin Tarantino. Who's all in this? Who sat down with us in this movie?

[Stephen Baldwin]

This is so amazing.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm a huge fan of Mad magazine.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Huge.

[Adam Carolla]

Judd Apatow, Quentin Tarantino. I can't read all the names from here, but we can.

[Jeff Abraham]

Well, Judd Apatow, Weirdo Yankovic, Gilbert Gottfried.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Gilbert's in this.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Paulie in it.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know.

[Jeff Abraham]

Howie Mandel.

[Adam Carolla]

Howie Mandel's in it.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Do you know Howie?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

All right, you gotta. You gotta figure out. I have an idea for Howie.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, I'll. I'll get it to him.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But listen, listen, listen. Here's why I whisper it.

[Adam Carolla]

You know, Howie, you're in.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You're in if you. If you're in my deal. If he takes the deal.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He does game shows. Did you know that?

[Adam Carolla]

Mm.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, that's it. That's all we're gonna say on the air. I got a game show concept for Howie. If you get me to Howie, you're in the deal. For a fucking ham sandwich. Daddy, I'll drive you Over a Bulgarian biscuit.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll drive you to his warehouse after the show today.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Let's go, let's crash.

[Adam Carolla]

He's always there.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But he won't shake hands, right?

[Adam Carolla]

No, but he'll do the bump. You know, he invented the bump.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And then I wanna screw it up.

[Adam Carolla]

Covid, like codified the bump. Like he started the bump and then. Yeah, no, Howie's a great guy. Howie's local and Howie.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But he does game shows.

[Adam Carolla]

He does. He does some.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Is he ruthless like Mark Burnett? And he just wants to make money.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know. All that motivates Howie, he seems to want money. He does like real estate. He does flips houses kind of quietly into real estate.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So he likes money is my point.

[Adam Carolla]

I think he likes money. He never stops working.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I think he'd probably retire off the American Idol salary is my guess.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. No, wait. America's Got Talent, same thing. Yeah, but don't say that to Mr. Mandel.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He'll get upset.

[Adam Carolla]

He's going to get upset and walk you out of the room if I.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Name the wrong title.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. And I'm not going to tell him which Baldwin has the idea. I'm just going to go. A very prominent Baldwin. I'm not going to lie to him.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You can talk in his mouth.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, great. Yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But it's a brilliant game show concept that. It's kind of like I already ran the numbers with my military people and we already know it's a hit. We just have to find the right place to help us create it.

[Adam Carolla]

Was Alec doing any, any, any game shows anymore?

[Stephen Baldwin]

I don't think so.

[Adam Carolla]

I used to do that show of his all the time.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Password.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, that's one of them.

[Adam Carolla]

Was it password? God. All I remember is I couldn't spell the word banana. Embarrassed the shit out of me. I was sitting there.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Was it Hollywood Squares?

[Adam Carolla]

No, it was the one in New York. It was the recent one.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

And he used to want me there.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Can we look up what the heck we're talking about? Does anyone know Match Game?

[Adam Carolla]

Match Game.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That's it. He donates all that money to Charity Hunt.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Stephen Baldwin]

All of it?

[Adam Carolla]

Fool.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Millions.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I loved it. It was easy. It's an easy show. I'll tell you. You gotta watch out for shows. You go watch out for situations where they freshen your drink for you all the time. Because what would happen is they would go.

[Stephen Baldwin]

She couldn't figure out how to spell banana.

[Adam Carolla]

You know why? Let me tell you how dumb I am. I couldn't. I Panicked. I couldn't spell banana.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Have you been at a ditty party?

[Adam Carolla]

A couple of whack offs, I call them. But I would throw a single party called a Whack Off. It was just me in a tent, but at a.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That's. Wow, that's really. That's a documentary. I got my wack off the documentary. Me, myself, and I. I was trying.

[Adam Carolla]

To spell banana on your brother's show, and I was panicking, and I thought back to a cheer from the East Valley Trojans, and I screwed up the spelling. There used to be a cheer where the girls go bananas. Go go bananas.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

B, A, N, A, N, A. And I was trying. I was like. In my head, I was like, B, go banana. Go go bananas. B, A, N, A. And I just heard blur after, like. And I fucked up. And then I misspelled it and I turned it over and everyone laughed at me. It was really. It was really a bad, bad dream for me.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

You feel me?

[Stephen Baldwin]

I remember. S, U, C, C, C. Success. The way we spell success.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I learned how to spell Saturday from Saturday from the Bay City Rollers.

[Stephen Baldwin]

All right, Me too.

[Adam Carolla]

S A, T, U, R, T. That would sit there. That would go through my head. Night.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Am I spelling success right? I don't think I'm spelling it right.

[Adam Carolla]

S, U, C, C, E, S, S, I think.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Is that how you spell success?

[Jeff Abraham]

S, U, C, C, E, S, S. But thanks.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Thank God he's here.

[Adam Carolla]

You go to college, or is it just writing an acting?

[Stephen Baldwin]

I went to a year of the American Academy of Dramatic Arts.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And then I wasn't supposed to be auditioning professionally, but I auditioned for a Broadway musical about the Beach Boys on a weekend in the first year of the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, where, you know, you take, you know, Commedia dell' arte, you take fencing, you take ballet, you take theater history. Like, it's a very intense. Real, real. Not something for a kid from Massapequa. Just between me and you, right? So, yeah, I was not invited back to the second year of the program.

[Adam Carolla]

But you got the Beach Boys.

[Stephen Baldwin]

No, I didn't get the Beach Boys.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But I am in, you know, all the curriculum of American Academy. When you see the brochures of the alumni.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Stephen Baldwin]

They booted me. But I'm alumni. Isn't that. Isn't that funny?

[Adam Carolla]

Who else is in there?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh, there's legendary people that graduate. Ooh. There's legendary people that graduated from the American Academy. I think William Hurt went to the American Academy. Great. Great theatrical theater. Legitimate non harpy slaying thespians.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, Stephen, you want to hang out? We're going to do some news. Great.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Are you going to do one bad movie with me?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah, I'll do it because I.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Got to do it now. We're recording. I got the evidence of you agreeing to do it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, I shall agree.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That'd be great.

[Adam Carolla]

I will hold up a edition of LA Times from today. You take a picture of me with the date on it and then we will do it like a hostage video.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Just send me a screenshot.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. All right, quick break. Back the news right after this. O'Reilly Auto Parts. O'Reilly Auto Parts. You know the jingle. They're in the business of keeping your car on the road. O'Reilly Auto Parts offers friendly, helpful service and the parts knowledge you need for all your maintenance and repairs. I've always used O'Reilly auto parts. I trust these guys. They've been my neighborhood auto parts guy store since, I don't know, got my first truck probably. So whether you're a car aficionado or you're an auto novice, you'll find the employees at O'Reilly Auto Parts are knowledgeable, helpful, and best of all, they are friendly. So what do you do? Stop by O'Reilly Auto Parts today or you can visit us at O'ReillyAuto.com Adam that's O'ReillyAuto.com Adam this summer, Pluto TV.

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[Jeff Abraham]

It's time to check Adam's voicemail.

[Alicia Krause]

What up, baseman?

[Adam Carolla]

You talked about the oh so incredible.

[Alicia Krause]

Grip of Tom Cruise and other characters in their action roles.

[Adam Carolla]

So question for you. Would he have dropped that babe and cliffhanger? What say you?

[Alicia Krause]

Now go and get it home.

[Jeff Abraham]

You can leave us a message at 888-634.

[Adam Carolla]

1744, Stephen Baldwin in Studio 1. Bad movie name is podcast. I'm gonna be on it soon. Alicia Krause back in doing some news. Look that look. Nobody likes cliffhanger like I like cliffhanger. I love cliffhanger, yo. But there is a. There's a problem in that film, which it's based on a premise of God Miserable Rooker.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Michael Rooker.

[Adam Carolla]

Michael Rooker takes his rooksack of a floozy girl up to The Devil's Playpen. And he's walking, she's going across. He traps her up there, right? And then he announces his knee hurts and he can't get back down, right? Meanwhile, Stallone's just sitting around his cabin, you know, just watching the wheels go round and round. Gets the call, goes up there. Now the winds start kicking in. He's got his novice girlfriend. Rooker does on top of the Devil's Playpen. Stallone does everything he can to get her across, but her glove comes off and she falls to her death. And then next scene, Rooker's like, with Stallone, you killed her up on that mountain. And he didn't go like, hey, bitch, if you'd taken her to a hot tub and gotten a blowjob, then none of us would be here right now. But no, you took her up top to fucking Devil's Playground, and then you call me to save her because you had a fake injury from high school. So how's that really on me? But he blames himself for killing her, which he absolutely did not do.

[F]

Can I just say I've never seen that movie?

[Adam Carolla]

What? Get the hell out of here. And no. I feel like.

[F]

I feel like instead of Cliff Notes.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Possible answer. Go ahead.

[F]

I feel like instead of Cliff Notes, you should do Corolla notes of action movies that chicks have never seen.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Adam, this is why you need to do and just like that, my podcast.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, screw that, because guys like you.

[Stephen Baldwin]

And me need to tell the kid who left the voicemail, first of all, there's no such fucking thing as Tom Cruise dropping anyone ever.

[Adam Carolla]

His grip is Tom Cruise. His grip is too good.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He's a dumb question. Son, you obviously don't know Great Hollywood.

[Adam Carolla]

Like we do cinema.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Let me tell you, we cinema.

[Adam Carolla]

Correct.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But you.

[Adam Carolla]

I can't do your show.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Uh oh.

[Adam Carolla]

Because it would conflict with my new cinema show called Cliffnotes with Adam, where I just deconstruct Cliffhanger. No. Over and over and over again. And I get everyone from key grips to catering guys. Everybody who was involved, transportation, Everyone who worked on the movie Cliffhanger will be on the show.

[F]

Craft services, everyone.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Can I just be Sly in that equation? The voice of Sly.

[Adam Carolla]

You be Sly.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What do you mean?

[Adam Carolla]

Let it go, Sly.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I just want to do a bad Sly impersonation.

[Adam Carolla]

I liked it. The movie was tough because it took place in the Swiss. Like in the Alps. Took place in Alps because they still had to figure out a way to get Sly's shirt off.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Wouldn't he be really mean right? Now to Sly Stallone. Are you ready?

[Adam Carolla]

Go ahead, bro.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Back then Cliffhanger, when you saw that poster, did you ever believe Sly Stallone was some expert climber on the mountain?

[Adam Carolla]

No. This was.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Or did you believe at some point he was gonna hang from something and his one arm was gonna be bulging like never before?

[Adam Carolla]

Free range guys are built like. Like waif models, you know what I mean? Because every extra ounce of weight is more. You gotta hang. You can't help 230 pounds of weight.

[F]

They're tinier than I am.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Frank Stallone's a great guy, but if you ask me, Sly's new series currently is like the Cliffhanger. Look. Didn't I tell you? Look at his pec. Look at his pec muscle. He's also doing a peck on a poster.

[F]

He's doing, like, an Instagram model. Pose the toes out.

[Stephen Baldwin]

He's gorethe.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, you guys are jealous of my new podcast called Cliffnotes with Adam Carolla. No, I think we break down Cliffhanger.

[F]

You need to think bigger. It's Corolla notes, and it's about every action movie from whatever decade this was.

[Adam Carolla]

I like to really drill down on just Cliff Notes.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Can we watch the trailer for Cliffhanger?

[Adam Carolla]

No.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh, my God.

[Adam Carolla]

We can't clear it.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I'm begging.

[Adam Carolla]

Alicia's gotta do news. She's got news.

[F]

I got news.

[Adam Carolla]

But maybe we'll pull out it. There's also, by the way, there's another great line from the Sharks and Venice Review. That was a movie that Steven was saying.

[F]

I haven't seen that one either.

[Stephen Baldwin]

It's so much better than Cliffhanger, I assure you.

[Adam Carolla]

Bite your tongue.

[Stephen Baldwin]

The only thing missing from Sharks in Venice is Sylvester Stallone. If you ask me, you're just shark.

[Adam Carolla]

One more line.

[Jeff Abraham]

Sorry, I think this is actually complimentary, Steven.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh, thanks, bro. You changed your voice for this one, too. I appreciate that.

[Jeff Abraham]

The Baldwin appears to be blissfully unaware of the kind of movie he's in.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, see?

[Stephen Baldwin]

But it's the same person calling me.

[Jeff Abraham]

I think it's a testament. Testament to your acting skill.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you know where you were when you were doing the movie?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Unaware, bro. What is acting? The pursuit of truth. So if I'm so in my own oneness of truth that I can almost believe anything.

[Jeff Abraham]

Blissfully unaware kind of film.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Stephen Baldwin, Blissfully unaware.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you get to go to Venice?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Alec Baldwin would tell you that's what's going. What?

[Adam Carolla]

Did you get to go to Venice to shoot it at least?

[Stephen Baldwin]

No, I think it was Bulgaria.

[Adam Carolla]

Bulgaria. Damn it. All right, at least let's do some news.

[F]

We got some news.

[Adam Carolla]

Sad.

[F]

This honestly didn't surprise me. It comes from EV Magazine. Liberal women are the least happy and the loneliest in America. According to a 2024American Family Survey, young liberal women are significantly less likely to report life satisfaction compared to their conservative peers. Findings revealed that 37% of Conservative women and 28% of moderate women aged 18 to 40 reported being completely satisfied with their lives. However, for liberals, that was 12%. Liberal women are almost three times more likely than conservative women to experience loneliness. By the way, as a woman, even a conservative one, I feel like 37% of being, like, completely satisfied with your lives is not high enough in the United States of America. Like, that seems real low.

[Stephen Baldwin]

It should be 51, right?

[F]

Like at least 51. We're 51% of the demographic, right?

[Adam Carolla]

Say this right now. You know what it takes to get from rotten to fresh in Rotten Tomatoes? 60. 60% means if Sharknado 7 or whatever, 59.

[Stephen Baldwin]

That's not fair and balanced.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, not to a guy, a single digit guy like you, but the regular filmmakers, that's still a low score.

[Stephen Baldwin]

So basically, at this point, Adam Carolla's professing that there's no way I'm ever gonna get back up to, like, over 25 years. There's no recovering in my future.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know that. I don't know that for certain. I disagree with me too, wholeheartedly.

[F]

A lot of the time.

[Adam Carolla]

59 is rotten, 60 is fresh. And I think we should do that with happiness.

[F]

With happiness.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree. You can't be, you know, when they go, it's always sad when they go. This president has the highest approval rating of any modern President the last two last 50 years at 47.5%. I'm like, it's still under.

[F]

50% of Congress is like 22% or.

[Stephen Baldwin]

11 or something on the scale that you're saying. This is what's very funny about the observation. If you studied politics 30 years ago and you study politics now, you could see that all of that conversation. Well, look where he was in the polls here. And look where he was. What are the polls now? The polls are like how fast their facial hair grows. Like, it's the weirdest crap. That means nothing.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I think there should be more happy people than in the 30 percentile.

[F]

I feel like for conservative women to be like, Yay, 37% of us are happy. It's still not high enough, right?

[Adam Carolla]

I agree.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Totally agree.

[F]

But the data also shows. And I do agree with this. So there's Brad Wilcox. He's a sociology professor, and he said that they seen research that conservative women tend to be more likely to embrace a sense of agency and independence and to have senses that they're not the victim of larger structural realities or forces.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the victim mentality thing is horrible. And the fact that we've tried to do that to generations of people, especially black or brown or women or lesbian or something, it's like when I would hear Biden constantly doing the race hustle, I was like, that should be against your fiduciary duty as the President of the United States. Calling your country systemically racist is an insane thing to say over and over again. And it's hurting people and it's untrue, but of course you would feel that way. And every time you turn on the View, it's just those dumbos going, you know what it's like to be a black woman? I don't know. Millionaire black ladies. Tell us all about what that's like in 2025, you fucking hypocrites. Number one. But number two, don't sugarcoat it. I won't. But they're racist hustlers. I don't think Sunny Hawson presents as black. I don't. I think she walks through life as a mix. All right, what do you think it means?

[F]

Like, presents as black?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[F]

So if you're looking because you believe in, like, a stereotypical. Like, what is a stereotypical, like, black person supposed to present as to you?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, not Sunny Hostin, is what I'm saying. Is that offensive to you?

[F]

No. Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of, like, confused.

[Adam Carolla]

Of what a black person looks like.

[F]

Looks like.

[Adam Carolla]

Ellen is not Black, right?

[F]

Ellen DeGeneres.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Yeah.

[F]

She's definitely not black. How do you know she's a white lesbian. Lesbian.

[Adam Carolla]

How do you know she's not black? But how do you know she's not black?

[F]

She might not because she doesn't identify as it, quite honestly.

[Adam Carolla]

But how would you know if you're just walking down the street and you saw Ella?

[F]

Because of the color of her skin.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so that's part of it. Right.

[F]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, don't you think? Sure. Well, you just said it. I'm asking if you think. I want you to be sure it's the color of the skin.

[Stephen Baldwin]

It's the cutest thing.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And what else?

[F]

Just the color of her skin.

[Adam Carolla]

Nothing to do with, like, her blonde hair or anything like that.

[F]

Oh, well, yeah, but anybody can have blonde hair now.

[Adam Carolla]

Hello.

[F]

People do.

[Adam Carolla]

That's true. But then there's other people. There's other great. All right.

[F]

You have other hair underneath.

[Adam Carolla]

There's darker people who might present as black, but then Sunny falls somewhere in the spectrum, is what I'm saying. I don't know that I would know what she was if I just met her.

[F]

But when you say presenting as black, are you referring only to her skin color? Are you also referring to, like, how she speaks or carries herself? Cause that's what I was like about.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, no, no, she doesn't. Look, I would not. If I was a cop, I wouldn't know to pull her over as a black woman, is what I'm. Is what I'm saying. Because I wouldn't know, per se, what she was.

[F]

I think, honestly, I speak for all of my gender when I say most women probably need to be pulled over because they're not the greatest driver.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. But I wouldn't know, like, if she said, I'm pulled over, I got pulled over cuz I'm a black woman. I would argue that as a judge.

[F]

You'Re like, I. I don't think the.

[Adam Carolla]

Cop would know you're a black woman driving a car.

[F]

Got it.

[Adam Carolla]

But maybe you were speeding. But she's walking around saying she's constantly being judged.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And I'm saying I don't know that people would know to judge you as a black woman.

[F]

Got it.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, there's.

[F]

Was she the one that had the story. That had the story where she was offended when somebody asked her at the department store where the certain size clothes were. Because that happens to me all the time. Where they assumed she was a store person. And she's like, I make more than minimum wage. And I was like, woman, I get that. When I have four children in tow at Costco, people ask me where stuff is. Like, I don't take offense to it.

[Adam Carolla]

Find me a picture of Shirley Hemphill, and then I will try to illustrate my point. Alicia.

[F]

But no, no, I get what you're saying. I just think that. So Sunny views herself as a victim, and conservative women tend to not do that.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, is there another thing, too, which is you can go to the game and you can order a hot dog, and you can enjoy your beer and your hot dog at the ballpark, or you can sit around all day reading about what's in the hot dog, and then you can't enjoy your life.

[F]

Oh, my God, there's red dye 40. I can't have the dog. To dog anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm saying, have a beer and a hot dog. And they're going, do you know what's in this hot dog?

[F]

So is this.

[Adam Carolla]

And that's part of. I think that's part of it.

[F]

You just, like, kind of normalized what this professor said.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I do with hot dogs and black women. I normalize.

[F]

He said that conservative women are also less likely to catastrophize about public events and concerns and more likely to think of themselves as captains of their own fate. Where.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, it's difficult when you think A, society's against you, but then B.

[F]

And the patriarchy and the systems and the things.

[Adam Carolla]

But also you're not steering your own vessel. That's a little weird too. Like, I get to feel like, well, I'll just do what I want to do or not do what I want to do. And if it works, it's because of me. And if it doesn't work, it's not because of anything but me.

[F]

Also, not to get, like, preachy but for a minute. Conservative women also tend to be religious. And so it's like when you're like, well, my fate is in God's hands, and then my hands, not government's hands, it gives you a level of, like, mental clarity and peace that even if the whole world is like, Red Die 40 or Trump or they're gonna kill you, you're like, okay, whatever.

[Adam Carolla]

I would argue that the chasm. But forget about Republican, Democrat, progressive, conservative. I would say just the chasm between religious women and non religious women is probably good for at least 14 points, which would be a high score for you on Rotten Tomatoes. By the way, we have a picture of Shirley Hemphill.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Pay attention, pay attention. I need help.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, now that is a woman who obviously presents as a black woman.

[F]

And if she got pulled over, she.

[Adam Carolla]

Could say, well, no, the hairstyle as well. And then other characteristics as well, which are built into certain cultures. It's not solely on skin color, but there are other things that are built into other cultures. All white, Hispanic, Asian.

[F]

I don't know. I guess I have black girlfriends that are lighter skin. And they sometimes I think they're in a tough place because they, to the public, they present as white. And then sometimes to, like, members of the black community, they're not, like, dark enough.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I think.

[F]

And so that's why when you originally said that, I was like, well, what are you talking about? Because I don't think that Sunny Hostin is a victim. No, we're all victims to have to listen to her take every day on the field. I agreed with that, but I think that.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Anyway, I recently spoke with all the gals at the View.

[F]

Oh, how'd that go?

[Stephen Baldwin]

And they all spoke very highly of the two of you. I just went, that's my comedy for today. And that's all that I want to say about the View.

[Adam Carolla]

Here's another thing. If I said I walk around and guys hate me because I have seen such a big dick, then you would go, is your dick out? And I'd go, no. And they'd go, well, then how do you know? And I go, oh, they know. But that wouldn't be a good answer. Maybe I'm acting like a dick. Do you see what I'm saying?

[F]

Got it.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't think Sonny gets discriminated against when she does. You know what it's like to be a black woman? Not you, bitch, not Sonny and. Or Whoopi, who I could pull over as black, but go ahead.

[F]

All right, well, that's why they're Democrats, because they like to be victims.

[Stephen Baldwin]

But Bill Maher, when are they booking you next on the View?

[Adam Carolla]

I've done the View more than once.

[Stephen Baldwin]

If they have you again is my.

[Adam Carolla]

Question, I'm gonna go with no. But here's what. Here's. Let me explain what I don't want to have on my deathbed. I don't want to be laying there thinking, I should have been nicer to those bitches on the View and never have gone back on the View. I'd rather be mean to them on the. And never go back to the View. Either way, I'm not going back to the View. See what I'm saying? Right, okay. Sorry.

[F]

You want to speak your truth?

[Adam Carolla]

I'm speaking my truth. And by the way, my truth is the truth. It's just not my truth.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Want to hear about my truth?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I've been trying to get on the view for 10 years.

[Adam Carolla]

Really?

[Stephen Baldwin]

And they won't have me.

[Adam Carolla]

They won't.

[Stephen Baldwin]

What does that tell you?

[Adam Carolla]

Adam, how do you try to get on the View? Your agent calls them or something?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, yeah, you know, you can just, you know, call a booker.

[Adam Carolla]

You're in the city, right?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, yeah, but, you know, they don't want, you know, are you in the city? They don't want Cameron on crack.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what I mean?

[Stephen Baldwin]

They don't want that.

[Adam Carolla]

No. Three words.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Kevin Baldwin is.

[Jeff Abraham]

Yeah, Biodome 2.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah.

[F]

No, I think that I was literally talking about this on Fox yesterday. It's like, how many people are conservative on that panel?

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[F]

One. Some of the time.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[F]

And it's like, if they want to represent the women of America, maybe half of them should be Republicans. Maybe half of the guests should be people with different worldviews or backgrounds.

[Adam Carolla]

I think they're so soft and so vulnerable and their views are so paper thin that they couldn't really handle anybody who had a couple of times.

[F]

That's why they lost their fricking mind.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right. It's a show. It's a show. All right. Who are you talking about?

[F]

I was talking about somebody that doesn't like to be a victim and apparently never was a Democrat. We have a clip of Bill Maher talking about this.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, Bill Maher. I never was a Democrat to begin with. I always, like, caucus with the Democrats. Generally vote for them, I think. Always vote for them. But I always look at it and, like, no, I'm gonna actually make up my mind. They just always are less scary and insane than the Republicans. But I wait for the day when it evens out. We're approaching that because they have gotten crazier and. Hmm. The Democrats have gotten crazier.

[F]

So he says he was never a Democrat, because I think his guest there, Mr. Morales, said that. Oh, I saw something where you said that you'd left the Democratic Party, and Bill was like, no, no, no, no, no. I was never a part of the Democratic Party. But apparently he thinks our side's bad too.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, you can go. I'm not a Democrat. But if you just vote Democrat for everything, then it kind of makes you a de facto Democrat. Or, by the way, the Democrats don't care if you're a Democrat or not. If you're gonna go ahead and vote for them, which he votes. Straight Democrat ticket.

[F]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

So then it's academic. What you. Tax credit are.

[F]

Tax credit. He has more conservative guests on his show than the View ever has.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Can I give you a great Alec Baldwin quote? Mm. Because, like I said, I did Don Lemon September 2015, and I told Don Lemon I thought Trump would be a great president. Then I went on to, like, totally, you know, do craft service for Trump practically, you know, working behind the scenes, helping the campaign.

[Adam Carolla]

You did?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

In what year? Second this year. I mean, this run.

[Stephen Baldwin]

There was one interview I did. My mom did an interview when she was alive where she said, well, Steven's, you know, inside the Republican National Convention, and Billy's outside picketing. She, like, made this observation at one of those things, and my brother Alex says to me, like, literally, like couple years into my Trump mentality and motivations back then, Alex says to me, my God. My God, you do great, Walton. What happened? What happened? I went, what? What? What do you mean, man? What do you. He's like, man, you know, like, who'd ever thought. All these years later, Stephen, born again, right wing, Republican, conservative. I looked right at him. I said, what are you talking about? I'm a registered liberal. I said, how I vote is something, you know, it doesn't matter. It's none of your business. But I'm a registered. I'm sorry. I said, I'm a registered independent.

[Adam Carolla]

Independent is the word I used.

[Stephen Baldwin]

I said, I'm not registered as a Republican. I'm registered as an independent. You know what he said to me? We all know you're a Republican sympathizer. He called me a Republican sympathizer.

[Adam Carolla]

Look, I haven't called Nazi sympathizers. That's not too bad.

[F]

You just haven't been called a straight.

[Adam Carolla]

Up Nazi a sympathizer by Sonny Hossen, though. I mean, come on. Considered source.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh, no.

[Adam Carolla]

Look, I will say this to all. All those, like, your brother and I know many of these people, okay? You hate Trump, and Trump's dangerous, and Trump's a narcissist and everything else. Who are we comparing Trump to? Are we comparing him to Bill Clinton in the early 90s, or are we comparing him to either a brain dead corrupt guy with a junkie brother or actually a corrupt brother and a junkie son who travels the nation on your name hammering checks when he's not doing booger sugar and banging prostitutes. He travels around and gets paid by Burisma and other Ukrainian companies in China, everything. And then brings the money back and gives 10% of it to the big guy, and this guy's brain dead and does nothing. And who knows who's running the White House. Is it that guy or the crazy Kamala sort of socialist type? Like, which one? Are we comparing him, too? And then why is our decision making bad? I'd like you go ahead and defend another four years of a wide open border. Go ahead.

[F]

Oh, me, like, pretend to be the liberal?

[Adam Carolla]

I'm just saying I'm crazy. What are you doing?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Here's why I'm retired. Here's why I'm praying every day for this country. Yeah, this country needs prayer. Prayer works. But here's the frustrating thing. How many decades have you casually heard about American politics? Well, they're the lesser of two evils. Well, it's the lesser of two evils. When are we gonna get past the lesser of two evils?

[F]

That'd be nice, wouldn't it? I don't think it's possible though. I genuinely think.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Couldn't it.

[F]

There's only a handful of politicians that I know are like genuinely good human beings and that I like on a personal level, not just a political level. Because I think it takes a level of narcissism and insanity to go put yourself out there like that. That's why statistically, men tend to run for office more than women because they're more. Women are less risk averse. And we're like, we're not gonna run for office because of what it could do to jeopardize our family life or our home life. And men are like meh. About that kind of stuff because they're just driven innately in different ways. And I think that maybe we're. Until the end of times, we're gonna consistently have like the lesser of two evils to choose from hopefully. Because I don't know that you can get that high in politics and actually be a decent human being.

[Adam Carolla]

The lesser two evils thing reminds me of being from California and saying, Jesus Christ, are we ever gonna go another direction here? And then someone goes, we haven't bottomed out yet.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Right.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, why must we bottom out? Must we bottom out? Or can we just see what direction direction the graph is going and change your. But you gotta wait till you bottom out. I'm like, why as a taxpayer do I have to wait until there's a junkie in my living room trying to sell politics that's we haven't bottom out yet. Everything caught on fire. Is that the bottom like. But why wait? You know, it's like, could you imagine running a business that way? Like, you guys are losing a lot of stock and you're like, we haven't bottomed out yet. They'll hurt. Wait till we bottom out and then we'll see about changing direction.

[Stephen Baldwin]

If you and I were to start a political party, what would we call it? Just the happy party.

[Adam Carolla]

What?

[Stephen Baldwin]

We call it the rotten tomatoes party.

[F]

59%.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, 59 percenters, bro.

[Adam Carolla]

Like 59%.

[Stephen Baldwin]

59. We'll get old.

[F]

That would be something slightly rotten but better than what you got, right?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Well, rotten, just not the lesser of.

[Adam Carolla]

Listen, I like the better of two evils.

[Stephen Baldwin]

There you go.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I mean, just the better party. Maybe a BC party. We bring it back to bc. But Baldwin, Corolla.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

Or something like that, you know, Work.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Is you have to have top feeling, Daddy.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Cb cb CB that doesn't mean anything, though. I don't know. I don't know. I might give you top billing.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, I like it.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, we need to wrap because we got our next guest out there is a crazy this guy's story. I don't know if you guys remember, he's been on before, but his doctor friend was murdered by mistaken identity. Like somebody patient thought he was somebody he wasn't, like, went in Mad Men. Just a crazy story. And then he took over the guy's business and brought it, made it very successful. It's an interesting story and I'll tell you about it when Jeff Abraham comes in. He's been on this show before.

[F]

I know you're like, can I produce a documentary about this?

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yeah, it sounds like a docu, Daddy.

[Adam Carolla]

All right. Stephen.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Yes, sir.

[Adam Carolla]

One Bad Movie.

[Stephen Baldwin]

When are you coming over?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, because of Cliff Notes, I'm contractually obliged now not to do other competing shows. So sorry. But see if I can get Howie Mandel on.

[Stephen Baldwin]

Oh, that'd be great. Thanks, Adam. And I can pitch him the game show that now you're fucking out of. Okay, why?

[Adam Carolla]

No, wait a second.

[Stephen Baldwin]

You can play at this game.

[Adam Carolla]

Carolla, blow your role. I never said anything about back. One Bad Movie is the name of the podcast I'll be on as soon as he'll have me. Alicia Kraus. Where do we send people from you? The weekly op ed at the Washington Examiner.

[F]

Washington examiner in the gram.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Jeff Abraham]

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[Jeff Abraham]

Here's a beat from Beat it out with Jay Moore and Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

I was walking to school, Walter Reed Elementary. One day I looked down, I found a newspaper, black and white. One of those old weird, porny black and whitey newspapery things they had. I don't know what it was. There was a topless picture of Adrienne Barbeau, the daughter from. From Mod. Like topless, like black and white, green. I cut that thing out. Chef's kiss. I brought it home with me and I. I treated like I was a World War I doughboy with a picture of his love back stateside in a locket.

[Jeff Abraham]

Beat it out with Adam Carolla and Jay Moore. Subscribe to the [e-mail] substance stack let's get back to the Adam Carolla show.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, porn used to be hard to find. Now your kid's got it all over your phone. Jeff Abraham is back in studio. Per Messing. The name of the product, the story is an interesting story and tragic as well.

[Alicia Krause]

Both.

[Adam Carolla]

I think the last time we spoke was just about three years after Dr. Gilbert was murdered. And the story that I saw on the news and made national headlines and you came in and sort of took over the company or the product. I don't remember the complete backstory. So why don't we fill that in and then we'll move forward?

[Alicia Krause]

Certainly. He was my neighbor, very good friend and my doctor.

[Adam Carolla]

Neighbor. On your street? Neighbor a couple streets away, yeah. So he lived in the same community and it was a general care guy or what?

[Alicia Krause]

He was a urologist.

[Adam Carolla]

A urologist. Okay.

[Alicia Krause]

Head of urologist at Hogue Hospital, Newport Beach.

[Adam Carolla]

And he was your urologist?

[Alicia Krause]

He was my urologist.

[Adam Carolla]

And he originally came up with this product. This.

[Alicia Krause]

He developed the product in conjunction with a PhD in organic research. Chemists at University of Georgia.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. And it's a topical cream for premature ejaculation. Or what do we call it?

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, It's a treatment for premature ejaculation. Helps men last longer. Someone who has clinical PE or someone who just likes to last longer in general for better intimacy.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So he was developing this, and was he selling it at the time or developing it?

[Alicia Krause]

They were just getting ready to commercialize it. And I went in for my yearly visit, and he just brought it up and said, hey, I really respect your business acumen. Can you help me out with this product that we're developing? And I said, what is it? And he said, we have a treatment for pe. And. And being of the age I was, I said, you developed a treatment for physical education? Because PE to me was phys Ed. And he explained it. One thing led to another, and I invested in the company, and the company started to take off, and he asked me to write a business plan because I just retired. So I did, and he thought it was pure genius. But I said, that's because you're a doctor and I'm a businessman, and sometimes those two don't mix. He was so good at what he did.

[Adam Carolla]

It's premature ejaculation. He came up with the product because it was training. Your training and expertise was in business and friends.

[Alicia Krause]

And I just retired.

[Adam Carolla]

You just retired, and so you draw up a business plan, and then when does the tragedy happen?

[Alicia Krause]

I invested originally in 2011, and I was kind of an advisor, working with him and developing things. And he was murdered in 2013. And that's when I took over the company and tried to create a legacy for him and provide for his wife and his two sons, who still own a significant portion of the company.

[Adam Carolla]

And the whole murder tragedy thing was just a complete sort of madman misunderstanding, or what was it?

[Alicia Krause]

It was insane. It was a gentleman by the name of Stanwood Elkis who had had a prostate surgery 23 years prior to that. So that would have been in 1990. And no one knows why. It took him 23 years to figure out that he was upset and he was going to kill. The doctor did the surgery. So he went to the va, it was a VA surgery, and said, I want to see my records. And they said, we don't have. I forget. He went somewhere in Orange County. They said, at the VA headquarters in Long beach, you can find them. They were on microfiche. And we know what microfiche is. For a lot of the younger users, before the Internet was around, you have to scroll. It looked like cellophane. And he found the doctor that did the surgery. It was a very similar name. It was in Orange County. He went back home. He lived in Redlands.

[Adam Carolla]

Redlands is not too close, is it?

[Alicia Krause]

No, it's about 60 miles. It's inland, out near Temecula somewhere. And he decided he was going to kill the doctor. It was the wrong guy, wrong name. And he made an appointment. And before he realized it, he murdered Ron.

[Adam Carolla]

So a prostate surgery that may have gone wrong, I don't know, from 23 years earlier, screws up the guy's name, but comes up the urology part maybe.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, I believe the name was Ron Gelhart or something. It was something similar, but it was different. And so he made an appointment with Ron thinking it was the same guy. And. And I had talked to the DA in Orange county, and he found out it was the wrong guy. His response was, don't know and don't care.

[Adam Carolla]

After he killed Ron?

[Alicia Krause]

After he killed him? Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

He said, don't know and don't care.

[Alicia Krause]

Don't care. He had nine bullets. He shot Ron eight times. He made an appointment. Ron walked in to see his last patient in the morning, thinking this was gonna be the last patient he saw that morning. He and I were gonna have lunch that day.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, really?

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah. And he had texted me earlier that day. We'd had the first offer for the company. Company had called us and said, hey, we're interested in acquisition. And the night before, we had a meeting. And he said, oh, we should take this offer. And I said, well, fasten your seatbelt. I said, this ride's just getting started. I think we have a lot of upside here. And he said, really? Yeah. That morning, he sent me a text, said, you know, I love your brother. You made my dream a reality. And I repeated it. I said, fasten your seatbelt. This ride's just getting started. And then I got a phone call from a very good friend of mine. His wife was a nurse at Hoag. And he goes, you sitting down? And I said, yeah. He said, I got some really bad news. I'm like, what? He goes, ron was shot. I'm like, ron who? He goes, your partner, Dr. Gilbert. I go, he's at Hogue Hospital, Newport Beach. There's not very many murders at Newport beach to begin with, let alone. And he was in his office. I had just talked to him, and I said, that's impossible. He goes, no, Lori told me that, you know, And I go, laurie's wife. His wife. And she was a nurse. And so I called the cell phone, and it went right to voicemail. And I said, I can't believe this. Can't possibly have happened. And then his partner, Jeff Yoshida, who was Ron's partner, called me back literally 30 seconds later. As soon as I saw the call coming from him, I was like, oh. And he goes, jeff, I'm here with the police here in my office. He goes, it's true. Ron's dead. He goes, we're not supposed to say anything. They're doing an investigation. But I told him you were one of his best friends and his partner, and I thought you needed to know. And I remember dropping the phone, and you've seen the movie Saving Private Ryan. You remember the part in the end when they're defending that bridge and they shoot that grenade from the tank and Tom Hanks gets thrown back, and he. He literally goes unconscious. And when he comes to, everything's slow motion. It's black and white, and there's no sound. That's exactly how I felt. And I remember pinching my forearm and everything because I thought, I'm dreaming. And I'd go, no, I can feel that. And I remember I just sat there numb. And I turned on KTLA, Channel 5, and it showed his office, and there was a SWAT team and a helicopter because, you know, you don't know if it's some kind of terrorist thing or whatever in this day and age. And I remember it was the most surreal thing possible. And I just sat there, numb for a half hour. I couldn't process. I couldn't think. It was just everything, just the air sucked out of the room. It was insane. I literally felt like I was in some continuum, some kind of a vacuum where nothing made sense anymore.

[Adam Carolla]

All over. A misunderstanding, mistake. I mean, obviously, the person's a mad person still in prison, I'm guessing. Never getting out.

[Alicia Krause]

I was asked to give the victim's impact statement at his trial. It's the most difficult things I've ever done because I had dreamed about choking him, about killing him. I swear to God. Because when you find out, I tell people this, if Ron had died in a plane accident or a car wreck, it wouldn't be any less tragic. It'd be easier to take as you go. Something random. You know what I mean? It was like. But the idea that someone walked in and took his life for no reason and actually for the wrong reason. Not that the guy who did it deserved to die. The ironic part is the guy that did the surgery had died of a heart attack two years prior. So he'd just done his homework.

[Adam Carolla]

He realized the guy was dead.

[Alicia Krause]

The guy was dead. And so I Thought about it. But before I went to testify, I kind of thought to myself, and I channeled Ron. I said, what would he do? And I thought, you know what he would do? He wouldn't even acknowledge the guy. So all I did was focus on the loss. I never mentioned how he died. I never mentioned, we need retribution. Just totally ignored him because he had freaked out a couple times during the trial before he was found guilty, and they had to restrain him. And I just thought he'd want another 15 minutes of fame, he'd want recognition. Never looked at him, never acknowledged him. Just pretended like he didn't exist and just basically talked about the loss. There's been a couple things that are really kind of amazing. I was flying into Orange county to visit my son, and I was on a plane, and the person next to me. You know how you just strike up a conversation, what do you do for a living? I start telling them, and they visibly. When I start telling them what I did, they. They had a reaction. It was visceral. And I go, I thought maybe it was because you bring up pe. Maybe some people are freaked out. And I go, oh, were you a little uncomfortable with this subject? And it was a woman. She goes, no, you're talking about Dr. Gilbert's product. I go, yeah. She goes, I was a patient of his, and she started to tear up.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Alicia Krause]

It was totally random. And I was like, oh, my God. And I started to tear up, obviously. And it was so weird that it was just. Just something that came from, you know, it's a conversation with a stranger on a plane. And I've gotten emails from people over the last 10 years that were his patients say, hey, I saw you. We've been running television commercials now, and things are going really well with the company. And I've had people literally reach out to me and say, hey, I was a friend of his. I was, you know, one of his patients. And I'm so glad that you took this and you're doing what you're doing. It's. You know, because every time I do anything, I always mentioned, and this is in honor of Ron. This is his company. When people go, oh, the success you've had is incredible. I go, I'm just a steward. I took this brilliant idea that he had and this brilliant invention he had. There's a lot of good business people, but no matter how good you are in business, if you have a crap product, there's nothing you're going to do with it. It's the genius of the product that's made us successful.

[Adam Carolla]

What was your business before you retired?

[Alicia Krause]

You'll laugh. It's the least thing you'd possibly expect to run a consumer packaging goods and sexual wellness company. I had a semiconductor engineering business and I sold it and retired. My background is in semiconductor engineering. I was just a good business person and I worked for Applied Materials. I started selling capital equipment to make semiconductors. And then at some point I started realizing there was a lot of money in the fact if you could recruit and place these semiconductor professionals, the engineers who made the semiconductors. So I started doing that. It was very successful. Then I started employing them and leasing them out if people just needed them on temporary basis. So I started that and it went really, really well and I made a ton of money. That's what enabled me to retire at age 53, which was 15 years ago now, is.

[Adam Carolla]

What did your dad do? What'd your family do?

[Alicia Krause]

You'll laugh. I have been very fortunate. So I live in an area right now where there's a lot of, you know, depo babies and a lot of people that have family fortunes. They'll go, what business are your parents in? You know? And I go, stealing groceries. They go, oh, you own a chain of grocery stores. I go, my mom was a cashier. My dad was a steel worker. They look at me like what? And I go, I swear to God. And they're like, what? My dad worked in a steel mill. My mom was a cashier in a.

[Adam Carolla]

Grocery store in Pittsburgh.

[Alicia Krause]

In Pittsburgh. It's a small coal mining town south of Pittsburgh called Canonsburg, Pennsylvania. It's in the tri state area. It's where Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Ohio all come together. I have my 50 year reunion this year, August 9th. Oh yeah, this is so Canonsburg. And it's at a Washington Wild Things at Minor league baseball game and they're serving hot dogs and baked beans. That's my 50 year reunion. And it's just so perfect. Cause that's where I'm from, that's who we are.

[Adam Carolla]

So you show up, this guy's a friend. I mean, buckle up. Things are going to change or happen fast is prophetic and bizarre in a weird way for someone who gets murdered moments later. Yeah, because it's not the kind of change you were talking about. But your mission was to take this company and sort of set the wife, the widowed wife and the kids and the rest of the family sort of up by your stewardship and your expertise. And I guess business is. Business doesn't really matter if it's semiconductors or promescent. Ed. Not Ed, but pe. Used to be a guy named Ed who was just doing physical education back in the day. And now everything has changed. But it's just business, right?

[Alicia Krause]

It's business.

[Adam Carolla]

If you have an acumen for it, you will figure out a good way to go with whatever the product is, I'm assuming.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah. You know, common sense, good ethics and hard work are really the foundation of any successful business. And I always tell people this, that if you just watch and listen and ask questions and don't try to bring the market to a product, bring a product to the market, figure out where the need is and develop something. We've expanded, I mean, tremendously. We started off with just a PE product and we had a very loyal following. One of the things we did was we went into the urological community and the urologists loved us because the product works and it's really solid. But I realized early on that we had a lot of men that went from lasting 30 seconds to 10 minutes or 15 minutes. And they would say to me, we need a lube, you know, because. So we developed, you don't need a lube when you last 12 seconds. So we developed a lot and they really took off and went very, very well. Then we developed a line of female arousal gels because we had a lot of wives and girlfriends saying, what about me? So we developed these female arousal gels. They went really well. Then we developed a line of proprietary toys, a cock ring and a bullet and a rabbit. And they went really, really well. And it's crazy that people go, how did you do that? And I go, I just listen, people tell me. And we have a very unique system. We've grown rapidly in the ret, Very well positioned on Amazon, but we also have a very robust website. So it gives us the ability to send emails back and forth and talk to our people. And what we do when we develop a new product, the first thing we do is send samples out to the existing customers that we have. And some of them love the idea that they have direct access to the CEO of the company. So they tell us what works. And the last product I wish I could take credit for, we developed a nitric oxide product for both men and women. It increases blood flow and it decreases inflammation. And it was developed by one of our doctors. And I was at smsna, which is a show in San Antonio, and he goes, you look tired, run down. I go, I'm exhausted. I go, I have some health issues. And the company's expanding and he Goes, oh, I developed all these separate products. It's L arginine, L carnitine, citrulline, magnesium and zinc. And you take them and it gives you a lot of energy. And I start taking it that he gave me and I go, this is fantastic. And then I realized no one wants to walk around with a, you know, a roving drugstore with all these different things. So I said, hey, can we put these together and compound them? And oh, yeah, go ahead. Went ahead and did it. It turns out it's a great product. And it was his genius that did it, not us.

[Adam Carolla]

How is it consumed or applied?

[Alicia Krause]

It's three tablets in the morning, three tablets in the evening so that you have a consistent amount of it it in your bloodstream. But what it does every man and every woman have an epithelial layer. It covers every artery and vein in your body. And when you're young, it's very supple and it has a purpose. The purpose is to keep bad things out, bacteria, viruses, and to allow the absorption of hormones, vitamins and minerals. Now, as we age the normal person between 30 and 35, that epithelial layer gets hardened. So what it does, it's even better at keeping bad stuff out. Unfortunately, it starts keeping good stuff out. So that's why after the age of 30, 35, depending on your body chemistry, every male and every female has a half a percent more of body fat and a half a percent less of lean muscle tissue. That's every year after 35. That's why they said you have to work out twice as hard to stay in half as good a shape. So what this product does, it reverses that hardening of the epithelial layer. And it's genius. And everyone tries to give me credit because we brought it to market, I go, I have nothing to do with this. I wish I could say that I'm not a chemist. I have no idea what that does. All I know is someone who's really smart developed it and we commercialized it.

[Adam Carolla]

Where are you based out of?

[Alicia Krause]

We're based out of Las Vegas, Nevada. I live in Summerlin. But our warehouse, I can say this very proudly. When we had Ron, we had this big closet in his office, had like 800 bottles of promescent. We now have a 9,000 square foot warehouse. It's 2,000 square feet of office space and 7,000 square feet of logistics and supply chain. And I remember the first time I went there and our VP of operations was there and I see this forklift, I'm like, We have a forklift. He's like, yeah. I go, oh, my God. Somehow in my mind, I was like, we've made it. We have a forklift. And these tractor trailers pull up and, you know, they start unloading, you know, these pallets off of there. And this must have been about 2017, maybe 2018. I remember driving home and I thought to myself, I wish Ron could see this. I wish Ron could see that his little closet with 800 bottles of promescent now has 200,000 bottles of promescent being delivered by a tractor trailer. And there's a forklift, you know, picking them off and bringing them in. And I remember thinking to myself, how did we get here? How did this happen? And I don't think it's that much expertise because it's a great product, but I think it's tenacity. I think it's just one way or another, we're going to bring this forward. One way or another, we're going to succeed.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I mean, life is kind of interesting in that it seems like things take so long, but then they go so fast. And sort of of sometimes you sit back and you go, how did I get from here to there? And I don't even really know. But I mean, it's like, look, if we all practiced an instrument for 40 minutes a day, or Japanese for 40 minutes a day, you would blink your eye, and three years from now, you'd be speaking Japanese or playing the guitar or the banjo or the violin. And the fact that it just is. But we don't really. I guess maybe this is a little too telling. I wish I acted more like that, like how much you can do in this period of time. But it's interesting, I guess as you get older, you kind of look back and you get a different perspective on it. Like the time when I was. I remember. And you probably remember this feeling, but I was a bad student.

[Alicia Krause]

Same here.

[Adam Carolla]

I remember walking into school, like the first day out here. September, early September, maybe September 8th or 12th or something. So when you'd walk in and just sit down that first day of class, it's still hot outside, you know, and someone would go. I'd think to myself, when are we getting out of here? And then someone would go, christmas. And I'd go, christmas is so far away. I remember just the notion of September to December being so. And now it all. Just think about it now, just flying past. Right. Homes.com. some might say homes.com is the best home shopping site. It may be homes.com's super comprehensive and transparent directory for their agents. It's all there. Or maybe it'[e-mail] is the only site that always directly connects you with the listing agent. Who knows the home the best? Perhaps it's homes.com's well, the fact that they have the most in depth neighborhood content of any home shopping site that's extensively researched to highlight the personality of each neighborhood. Homes.com goes above and beyond to bring home shoppers the in depth info they need to find the right home. That's right. That's why I go to homes.com homes.com that's homes.com we've done your homework.

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[Alicia Krause]

I sometimes tell people now that a year consists of about six days. Yeah, it's New Year's Day and then it's easter, then it's the 4th of July, then it's Labor Day, then it's Thanksgiving, it's Christmas, you start all over again. I think exactly that. And I've literally thought to myself, because everyone tells you when you're younger, as you get older, time goes faster. That's bullshit. A weeks, a week, week's a year. Then you start realizing it. So I'm thinking to myself, is it because when you're five, a year is 20% of your life. So that's significant. Now I'm 68. A year is 1.4% of my life. Maybe that's why it doesn't seem as long.

[Adam Carolla]

You know what? I would use this analogy, but I think you're right. But I also would just go. The first time I drove from LA to San Francisco seemed like a long, long adventure. Now it's just, who cares? Done.

[Alicia Krause]

Put some music on podcast.

[Adam Carolla]

Once you go there and back 70 times, then what's it really mean? And then how long is it? And obviously you go to bed every night and you wake up eight hours later, you could go to San Francisco and come halfway back in that period that you don't even count as time because you weren't really conscious for it. So I think it's all just a construct. But I agree. My theory's with you on 20% of your life at age 5 versus my how many times you've been back and forth through the Bay Area.

[Alicia Krause]

It's similar.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I just drove to Vegas and I could remember going to Vegas was a wild, long, Mr. Toad's kind of wild ride adventure. You know what I mean? And also I was just in Vegas for three days and I could remember going, that's a long time. Now it's like, go there to work, please.

[Alicia Krause]

It's over with. Where'd you stay? The reason I asked the last time I was here is 2016. And you flew private for a thing and you stayed at the circus or not the circus circus for some event. Remember they had you there. And I said, that's the first time in the history and the last time in history someone will fly private to Vegas and be staying at Circus Circus.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I will tell you, it is not the first time, but certainly it's happened very frequently where Americans have driven to Vegas and stayed at Harrah's. Okay. Because that makes perfect sense.

[Alicia Krause]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Taking a moped to Vegas and staying at Harrah's is very consistent. Flying private to Vegas and staying at Harrah's and. Or Circus Circus is not. Harrah's is one of these hotels where when you get on the elevator frequently people get on holding coolers.

[Alicia Krause]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Which is not a good sign in terms of the accommodations. But it's free because Jimmy's club puts me up there. Jimmy Kimmel's club. And they give me a suite which is. I don't know if you're like me, but at a certain point, square footage trumps all.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

All the cool boutique y. Oh, you get a turntable in your room. I need. I got spread out.

[Alicia Krause]

I want space.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Carroll Shelby used to say there's no substitute for cubic inches, meaning Ferrari was trying to do what they could do with 180 cubic inches. And he's like, I'm just going to put a 427 in my car. You can wring out your 180 cubic inch, three liter. I'm just going to go with a nine liter. How about that? And that's kind of what they did. And I'm sort of with Carol. I like the finesse, but at a certain point, I'll take a crap hotel with a ton of square footage.

[Alicia Krause]

With a ton of square footage. And you can relax and spread out. Cause sometimes you feel like you're on a cruise, you know, one of those rooms, you go into a hotel, one of these really nice boutique hotels, and you're like, wait a second. I can touch all four walls standing where I'M at. I just feel claustrophobic when it's like.

[Adam Carolla]

That, that I'm with you. And you no longer have to do that because of the wild success of Promescent.

[Alicia Krause]

You know, it's interesting. And you were talking earlier about you saying, well, you know, all of a sudden you get somewhere and we've become this overnight sensation 12 years in. Okay. It started about a year ago. First five to six years was a real grind. And then we started gaining foothold and we got into Target. That was our first reaching location. So we get into Target and we're all jacked up and we're doing well. And it was. It was a logical thing for us because you obviously need. Because of the nature of the product, some people don't want it delivered. So their roommates go, oh, you're promescent here. Your children go, oh, promescent here. And we literally struggled for four or five years. We kept trying to get into more retail. And then in 2021, we got. In 2022, we got into Walmart and we did really well, but it was only a thousand store test. And then in 24, we got in all 4,000 stores. And then suddenly the last year, we got into CVS nationwide, 6,000 stores. We got into H E B, which is a upscale Hispanic grocery chain based in Texas, 300 stores with two products. Then we got in Meijer, which is a Walmart type store, which is based in Grand Rapids, Michigan. They're kind of Walmart, but they're in Illinois, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan. And we got in there, and then we just got in Wegmans, which is a kind of a Whole Foods, kind of a upscale grocery kind of a chain in the Atlantic Eastern Seaboard. And we're launching there with three products in September.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, how do you know? I think there's a issue here. I mean, not with your products, but there's this thing where people are like, you never give up. You never give up. You always. You never give up on your dream or your product or whatever it is. And it's like, I know a lot of people who I'd like to tell to give up on certain things. You're not gonna be a country music star. You're not gonna write. You've been talking about writing a book for 13 years. You never wrote a book. And so you have to sit around and you go, well, how do we weigh? Never give up, which everyone just says, versus a kind of, hey, reality. On reality's terms. There's comedians who are like, they're banging Away. They're banging away. They're banging away. They should give up at a certain point. On the other hand, there's people that bang away and they pop. And they're in their 40s. They've been hitting it hard since their early 20s, and they shouldn't have listened to anyone 10 years in to give up. So I guess the first thing you have to do is believe in your product. Whether it's your product or it's comedy, you have to go, I feel like there's something here that's worth it, you know? Like, I feel like the product's good, you know?

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

But then you bang around for four years. Six. Five. Six years, and nothing comes out the other end. How do you not give up? Or why don't you give up?

[Alicia Krause]

It's tough, you know, to say that. There weren't periods along the way where I didn't literally question my sanity and say, why am I doing this? Because I'd retired once. So when I was doing it, it wasn't because I have to do this, because it's gonna take me to the next level, or, oh, my God, what am I gonna do if I don' I knew what I was going to do, which was nothing. I was already retired. Part of it was a belief in the product. Part of it was I heard back from so many customers that this changed my life, that this is really a good product. And part of it was devotion, because I really wanted to make this successful. I wanted to give Ron a legacy and provide for his family. He was like you and I, because you and I have shared our backstories. You don't come from privilege. You picked yourself up, and everything you have, you earned. And he was the same way. And when he was murdered, he was just starting to have student loans paid off, just starting to accumulate that wealth. So I'm very close with the family, so I knew they weren't literally set up for life. And I felt like I had an opportunity to do that. He would have done the same thing for me because he knew my son, and I was a single dad. But even if he wouldn't have done it, it was the right thing to do, and I believed in it. I saw enough anecdotal evidence, but no one knows how difficult it is to start an underfunded pharmaceutical company in this country. In this space right now, when you're wading into the land of Reckitt, Ben keyser, it's a $24 billion a year company. They have Ky and Durex. When you're wading into the lion's den with Church and Dwight that has Trojan the $18 billion a year company and they have this channel power and there's another totally separate thing, but we in 2015 were approached by Record Binkies or RB. They wanted to buy us and they signed a letter. Not a letter of intent, a non disclosure agreement protect us. And we went through this whole process for 14 months and then they vanished and literally tried crushing us and putting us out of business.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, they vanished and then tried.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh yeah, absolutely.

[Adam Carolla]

So I mean there's kind of, you know, Budweiser could buy Wicked Beer Ale or something out of San Diego and. Or they could crush them.

[Alicia Krause]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

But they can't really live with them per se. Or they can't.

[Alicia Krause]

You get to a certain point and people realize you're disruptive and you're a threat and a company looks and they say, let's just buy them. Or in a lot of cases which happened to us, and this is really frustrating, they say we could buy them, but we're gonna have to pay a premium. Cause they know what they have and you can already see what's starting to happen. Or we can literally crush the. We can literally make them go away. And I don't think anyone really knows how close that came to happening. We ended up in a lawsuit with them and it came to fruition in 2022, believe it or not, in a six week court trial in Newark, New Jersey.

[Adam Carolla]

They represent. Sorry, what products?

[Alicia Krause]

They literally did due diligence on us. Saw how big the potential market was. They had a product and they literally said, there's no market here. But how do you know if there's a market when you have a shit product? Because everyone buys it once and then never buys it again.

[Adam Carolla]

But this is the company that makes what they make.

[Alicia Krause]

You're gonna laugh. They have Durex, Ky. They have. Okay, so they're the big Lysol, Mucinex, Frank's, Red Hot. I mean they do 24 billion a year. They have all these cleaning products finished. So they contacted us and said, hey, we've seen your ranch and blah blah, blah, we want to look into you. So I flew to New York and they're based in London and they had a guy fly, his name was Volkers. So now fly to New York. And we sat down for four hours and he literally kept pointing at our repeat business. This is what's going to get you bought. You're our new golden calf.

[Dawson]

You are.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh my God. We didn't realize because our product wasn't effective, how big this market is. They looked at us at that point, we were doing about 1.3, $1.4 million a year. Here's us, this bootstrap company with four people out of nowhere. The key was if we had been doing 1.4 million in business and we had 80,000 people that all bought one bottle, never bought again. There's no business there. But we had 4,000 people that each one were buying five times a year. And they looked and said, look at your resources. You've reached a total of 1/10 of 1% of the population. You're doing this. We have the resources to literally reach 10 to 15 to 20%. And they extrapolated out and said, this is a couple hundred million dollar a year product. And so it turns out that they strung us along for 14 months, sucked every bit of information out, and then went back. Fortunately, I had patented our product. They could not copy exact. But the strategies that came out during the trial was their goal was to just make us go away, use their channel power and crush us. And then once we were gone, then they could take over the patent and everything else. And it was just brutal. But it was a real learning experience because you think when you sign an NDA that you're covered. Okay, no one would be brazen enough to sign an NDA. But we live in a society this is really sad. And it was heartbreaking where a $24 billion company, when they look at us and we're 1.2 million a year and they look at how we're funded, they go, they don't have the resources to take us on. They don't have the resources.

[Adam Carolla]

In court.

[Alicia Krause]

In court.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

And it ended up in a full on full blown court trial, you know, and it was six weeks, it was in Newark, New Jersey, and they got found not guilty. It was tragic, absolutely tragic. They initially had a firm called Shepard, Mullen, Hampton and Richter representing them. And we won 16 out of 16 pretrial motions. So it was okay, how are we going to lose this? And then we had three mock juries all at the same time. We went back and I kept saying during the mock juries, why is this slanted so far in their favor? And our counsel at the time said, it's slanted that way. We want to see the weak points. And we still, all three of them get giant verdicts for us. I'm feeling really good about this. And about three months, about 90 days before trial, they got rid of Shepard Mull and they brought in Wilmer Hale. Now, WilmerHail is this D.C. based company that is all former prosecutors and high level, you know, congress people. They're the most politically corrected. They specialize in getting white collar criminals off. Their absolute specialty is, even if you're guilty, we will protect you. Right? Everyone said to me, aren't you afraid? They just brought in Wilmer Hill. I've said they can't change depositions, they can't erase emails. No, I mean, we won 16 out of 16 pretrial motions. Everything's set. You know, they turned it into a circus. I was looking at the jurors during the trial because we were on one side and they were on the other. You know how the courtroom set up. And the jury was literally three feet away. I'm looking at him and I could just see them like, what is this even about? And a six day trial turned into a six week trial. They just kept dragging everything out. It was during COVID So that normally you have the ability when someone comes up and they say something that's false, you can put rebuttal witnesses on. And the judge in this case, her name was Madeline Arleo, and she was a complete hack. She literally made it where we did our case, they did their case, and then it went to the jury. So we never had that rebuttal thing. So by the time the jury went to the break because of COVID because of that, by the time the jury went to deliberate, they hadn't heard from anyone from our side in four weeks. It was like we took a week and a half. They took. It took four and a half weeks. And this is the craziest thing. So the jury verdict comes back, and it took him two days to come back. So you figure they're obviously calculating damages. They come back not guilty. So we were litigation funded because the litigation took over $20 million. This is. By the time we got to court, it took six years. Okay? But our case was strong enough. This company called Bentham literally evaluated the case. They had a mock courtroom. They put me on the stand. They went through every email. They said, we want total transparency to everything that happened before. We'll agree to do this. I said, I have nothing to hide. Go ahead. You might find some salty language in there. You might find a couple porn downloads, but hey, nothing bad business wise, you know. So they did this deep dive and they came back, said, we're funding this. That's how strong. And this is a renowned firm. And they hired Proskauer. That's a Top notch law firm. And so when this thing went down and the verdict came back, you've seen Dateline. It's like, okay. You say, okay. The jurors that would like to speak would like to find out. So my attorney says, any jurors, could you go back that would willing to speak to us would like to chat with him? No, I refuse. I was like, what? She goes, no, I won't go back. And he goes, you, Honor. He goes, I'm not asking you to say we're going to talk to jurors. I want you to go see who will talk to us. No, I'm not going to check. And I forbid any contact whatsoever with the jurors. If you really felt good about what happened after six years and $20 million, don't we deserve an opportunity to at least understand?

[Adam Carolla]

Is that company just out 20 million bucks?

[Alicia Krause]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[Alicia Krause]

Well, they paid half, and then the legal firm Proskour took the other half on contingency. You want to hear the craziest part of it? About a year and a half in, I just remember it was right over Christmas, and I was cooking breakfast, and my attorney calls me. His wife is from Finland. They were in Finland. And he calls me and he says, hey, they just filed counterclaims. I started laughing. He goes, you think counterclaims are laugh? I go, no. You're joking, right? He goes, no, I swear to God. I said, about what? So he started explaining it. I go, that's absurd. He goes, let me email them to you. Let me call you back in 20 minutes. I said, okay, great. So I put my breakfast on hold. I go upstairs, I read the counterclaims. I started laughing. So he calls me back and he says, what do you think about these counterclaims? I said, they're fictitious. They're absolutely fictitious. There's no basis behind them. So he says to me, are you 100% positive? I said, on my life, 100% positive. So he goes, I'll be back in the States in early January, and we're gonna file this motion asking for sanctions. And if they don't take these to trial, they'll be fined. I said, okay, great. So he gets back, and he calls me before he files. Of course, he wants to do his double check. Are you sure? I said, just show you how serious I am on my son's life, okay? They will never set foot in a courtroom, those counterclaims. He said, this means that they're doing this just to delay things, and it'll take another year and a half. And probably a couple million dollars to litigate these counterclaims. I said, they're fictitious. They'll never go into court with it. I promise you. So all during this whole process, this goes on and on. Believe it or not, 30 days before the trial, they have to have their agenda. They dropped every single counterclaim, so they were eligible for sanctions. Do you know, after the trial, the judge refused to order sanctions? So they got exactly what they wanted, delayed things another year and a half, and ran up another couple million dollars. That's the state of our legal system in this country.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll tell you when. First off, I've been through it. It's like, well, first off, one of the things. And we got a wrap. But one of the things is like, you just go, what? How stupid is this person? No. Are they corrupt or are they just bad? Or, like, you're a judge. Aren't you supposed to know any better than this? You should know better. Or like an attorney. First half the people are just dumb or corrupt or something. And it's also stacked and rigged. I mean, I had patent trolls sue me. First thing is, where are we going to do this trial?

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And they go, oh, you mean venue. Yeah, venue. It's like, in a small town outside of Texas. I'm like, small town outside of Texas. My business is in California, and you're suing me. All right, we'll put it to the judge first. 50 grand you spend. Is them going, no, no, we're gonna do it here.

[Alicia Krause]

Exactly what happened to us?

[Adam Carolla]

I know. It's like, all right, is this some sort of rigged system?

[Alicia Krause]

We were in Vegas, Newark, New Jersey.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. All right, I. I wish I don't have the time, but if I had the time, we could do this. Or maybe if we had.

[Alicia Krause]

I'll give you one last thing you'll laugh at. So I said to my attorney so many times, exactly what you said. I said, this is insane. No sane person would think like this. Oh, well, this is the way I said. You know what it is when you live in a septic tank? When you live in a sewer, you can't smell shit anymore because you're surrounded by a 24 7. So that's the scent you think is normal. A normal person gets involved in litigation, they go, this is insane. You smell it?

[Adam Carolla]

It's shit.

[Alicia Krause]

It's garbage.

[Adam Carolla]

Thank God our olfactory senses are still intact and we're not fucking assholes living in a septic tank. Promescent is where you go. Dot com. Adam. New listeners. Or I should say new orders, new folks are going to get 15% off and new customers only. I'll spell it out. P R O M E S c e n t.com Adam Jeff Lord's work, man. Congratulations.

[Alicia Krause]

I appreciate it, my friend.

[Adam Carolla]

You're doing great.

[Alicia Krause]

You're looking good, amazing young. You're looking fit.

[Adam Carolla]

Maybe I'm using a little promise. Stephen Baldwin as well. New podcast One Bad movie as well. Alicia Krause for me, I'm going to be in Irvine doing live shows, live podcasts July 10, come on out and Irvine Improv and then Covina Laugh Factory doing a couple shows there July 11th and 12th and then on the road Road America Tough center out there in Wisconsin doing shows there when we went mad. It is out as we we speak. Apple tv, Amazon prime and others out as we speak. Now the new Mad doc we just finished over here. So until next time, Adam Carolla saying Mahalo.

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