Trump vs Newsom + David Mamet’s Political Evolution

Summary

The Adam Carolla Show: "Trump vs Newsom + David Mamet’s Political Evolution"

Release Date: June 12, 2025

In this episode of The Adam Carolla Show, host Adam Carolla delves into the heated political landscape surrounding former President Donald Trump and California Governor Gavin Newsom. The show features insightful discussions with co-host Alicia Krause and acclaimed playwright David Mamet, offering a blend of humor, sharp political commentary, and candid conversations.

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1. News Update: Brian Wilson’s Passing [02:26 - 06:11]

The episode opens with a somber announcement about the death of Brian Wilson, the iconic member of The Beach Boys. Adam Carolla reflects on the band's unique blend of influence and corny charm, noting:

Adam Carolla [02:26]: "It's very rare that a band can be influential, important, respected, and kind of corny all simultaneously, which is weird."

Alicia Krause adds:

Alicia Krause [03:03]: "Like some people thought their musicality was a little tame or not edgy enough for the era of which they came to fame."

The conversation transitions into reminiscing about The Beach Boys' portrayal of Southern California's carefree lifestyle and contrasts it with the current state of Los Angeles.

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2. Cultural Evolution in Los Angeles [06:11 - 14:24]

Adam and Alicia discuss the significant cultural shifts in Los Angeles, particularly the rise of the Hispanic population. Adam muses:

Adam Carolla [06:11]: "We've gone from the Beach Boys chronicling an era of sun and fun to now dealing with graffiti, garbage, and a shit show."

Alicia emphasizes the challenges posed by these changes, highlighting issues like gang tagging and the difficulties in restricting flavored tobacco products to protect youth from nicotine addiction.

Alicia Krause [07:00]: "My 11-year-old has operated an illegal business on the beach... but she prefers to sell them in Malibu because she can get like twice as much."

Their discussion underscores the tension between cultural assimilation and maintaining community standards amidst demographic changes.

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3. Immigration Policies and Language Education [14:24 - 24:08]

The hosts delve into the impact of immigration policies on education, particularly the debate over teaching children in their native languages versus English immersion. Alicia argues for the benefits of English-only education:

Alicia Krause [14:38]: "They started teaching in their native tongue, and it negatively affects them when they graduate and try to get a job."

Adam supports this viewpoint, criticizing the educational strategies that, in his opinion, hinder immigrant children’s integration and success.

Adam Carolla [14:59]: "If you actually wanted to help our nation of immigrants... you'd be teaching them in English."

This segment highlights the ongoing debate over the best educational approaches for immigrant populations and their long-term effects on societal integration.

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4. First Amendment and Censorship: The Brazilian Case [27:12 - 43:01]

Alicia reports on a disturbing case in Brazil where comedian Leo Linz was sentenced to prison for making "bigoted and discriminatory" jokes.

Alicia Krause [27:14]: "The judge called Lynn's comedy bigoted and discriminatory against minority and vulnerable groups..."

Adam contrasts this with the robust First Amendment protections in the United States, arguing against censorship and for the protection of free speech, especially in comedy.

Adam Carolla [30:32]: "Anything that falls under the umbrella of comedy should be a no-fly zone for any censorship or any governmental whatever."

They discuss the importance of allowing comedians to express controversial opinions without fear of legal repercussions, emphasizing the cultural differences between the U.S. and countries like Brazil regarding free speech.

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5. Political Discourse: Gavin Newsom vs Donald Trump [43:01 - 62:40]

The conversation shifts to the political strategies and rhetoric of California Governor Gavin Newsom and former President Donald Trump. Adam critiques Newsom's handling of state issues and his public persona:

Adam Carolla [35:47]: "I like Gavin Newsom. He's a nice guy, but he's grossly incompetent."

Alicia echoes the sentiment, expressing frustration over Newsom's evasive responses to accountability:

Alicia Krause [55:08]: "If all the people who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 had voted to recall Gavin Newsom, he would not be our governor right now in California."

The hosts debate the effectiveness of political leadership, governance policies, and the influence of voter behavior on state politics.

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6. Guest Segment: David Mamet on Political Evolution [74:26 - 137:55]

David Mamet, renowned playwright and director, joins the conversation to provide a deeper analysis of the current political climate. Mamet discusses the challenges of free speech, the evolution of political discourse, and the role of media in shaping public perception.

David Mamet [74:26]: "We're living in the time when they are asking us to not believe our own lying eyes."

Mamet critiques the bureaucratization of Hollywood and parallels it with Democratic party strategies, emphasizing how committee decisions dilute individual accountability.

David Mamet [84:22]: "Hollywood's in the same position as the Democrats saying, lordy, how do we appeal to men?"

The dialogue explores themes of censorship, political correctness, and the erosion of free speech, with Mamet and Carolla agreeing on the detrimental effects of these trends on society.

Adam Carolla [89:32]: "I thought the United States didn't engage in that... but somehow we had evolved or were better than that, and I found out we're not."

They also touch upon historical parallels, such as dictatorships and societal collapses, arguing that humanity has regressed in certain aspects despite technological and cultural advancements.

Mamet shares personal anecdotes about his experiences in Hollywood and the importance of genuine storytelling that resonates with diverse audiences without succumbing to political pressures.

David Mamet [114:05]: "The idea of a gag, the idea of a laugh... it's about releasing repression."

This segment provides a profound look into the intersection of art, politics, and societal values, highlighting the necessity for honest discourse and creative freedom.

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7. Conclusion and Final Thoughts [138:57 - End]

The episode wraps up with Adam reflecting on the persistent challenges in political leadership and societal cohesion. He underscores the importance of addressing root problems rather than superficial fixes.

Adam Carolla [139:54]: "Why do we even think parts of it are good? It's so weird."

Alicia and Mamet reinforce the need for accountability, effective governance, and the preservation of free speech to navigate the complexities of modern politics.

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Notable Quotes:

• Adam Carolla [02:26]: "It's very rare that a band can be influential, important, respected, and kind of corny all simultaneously, which is weird."

• Alicia Krause [07:00]: "My 11-year-old has operated an illegal business on the beach... but she prefers to sell them in Malibu because she can get like twice as much."

• Adam Carolla [14:59]: "If you actually wanted to help our nation of immigrants... you'd be teaching them in English."

• Adam Carolla [30:32]: "Anything that falls under the umbrella of comedy should be a no-fly zone for any censorship or any governmental whatever."

• Alicia Krause [55:08]: "If all the people who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 had voted to recall Gavin Newsom, he would not be our governor right now in California."

• David Mamet [74:26]: "We're living in the time when they are asking us to not believe our own lying eyes."

• Adam Carolla [89:32]: "I thought the United States didn't engage in that... but somehow we had evolved or were better than that, and I found out we're not."

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This episode provides a comprehensive exploration of current political tensions, cultural shifts, and the enduring importance of free speech. Through engaging dialogue and thoughtful critique, Adam Carolla and his guests shed light on the complexities facing America today.

Transcript

[Adam Carolla]

All right, in this episode, Alicia Krauss is in. She does the news. And then amazing writer, director, screenwriter, playwright David Mamet comes in for a sit down. And we'll do that right after this. Hey, this is Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show. Summer is here and Podcast one has a brand new sports podcast. It's the all new Pacman Jones show called Politely Raw. Now on Podcast one, join former NFL star and Pro bowl cornerback Pac Man Jones as he brings you his unfiltered takes, raw interviews and stories as only he can tell them. If you love sports, culture and controversy, you're going to love Politely Raw as nothing is off limits. This makes for an entertaining and compelling listen each and every time. The new Pac Man Jones show, Politely Raw episodes drop weekly and are available wherever you find podcasts.

[Alicia Krause]

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[Dawson]

From Corolla One studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Corolla Show. Adam's guest today, legendary screenwriter David Mamet. Plus the news and trending topics with Alicia Krause. And now today's intro joke got caught up in an ice sting at the Home Depot and was summarily deported. Adam Carolla.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, get it on. Got to get on a church make a minute. You get it on. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for watching all our YouTube videos or vlogs on there. The and everything else. Gonna be lots of material for you there. Good to see you, Alicia Krause.

[Alicia Krause]

Good to see you.

[Adam Carolla]

Got some news coming. First, breaking news. Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys died. Yeah, Brian Wilson. I mean, the Beach Boys were great. It's kind of weird that they were super influential and super important and super respected and then a little bit corny at the same time, which is kind of a weird band thing.

[Alicia Krause]

Like, some people thought that their musicality was a little tame or not edgy enough for the era of which they came to fame. I think it was.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. But it's weird that, you know, there's Bands like all the douchebags, they love Radiohead or they love Lou Reed, you know, they just go. Or they love the Beastie Boys or other shitty bands, but they just go. They don't. And then there are other bands where you go, oh, Jimmy Buffett, oh, God, Parrotheads. Give me a break. You know, it's corny. You know what I mean? You make fun of it.

[Alicia Krause]

I love fun of it though.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? That's why we make fun of you. But it's very rare that a band be influential, important, respected, and kind of corny all simultaneously, which is weird. You know, Stamos is playing the congas in the back. Everyone's wearing a Hawaiian shirt. Weird.

[Dawson]

You know, you were talking about the whitest songs of all time, the Beach Boys. Fun, fun, fun. Till their daddy takes a T Bird away. That's probably in there.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah. Not a lot of my 5 year.

[Alicia Krause]

Old thinks that the song Surfer Girl is about her because she learned how to surf last summer.

[David Mamet]

Oh, really?

[Alicia Krause]

And I was like, well, let's listen to some Beach Boys. And when that song came out, she's like, this is about me. And I'm like, well, it was written like 50 years before you were born, but okay.

[Adam Carolla]

But it's also the Beach Boys, from a guy who's lived in Southern California his whole life, you know, they chronicled an era. They captured sun and fun and tan and beach. And also, if you think about what they were saying, they were talking about freedom. They were talking about jumping in the woody and heading down the PCH and going to the. Pulling onto the beach and starting a camp.

[Alicia Krause]

Starting a fire, too.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

Like a level of like. You're right. Like a free. Freedom and independence are so interchangeable, but the ability to do that in this earth and California, those vibes of we're.

[Adam Carolla]

Going on a surfing safari, we're going to just pull that woody right into the sand. We're gonna pitch our tent, we're gonna light a fire, we're gonna get our surfboards. You would be arrested for all of that now in Southern California for sure.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah. Especially the campfire part.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, my. Oh, listen, you can. You wanna light a Waymo on fire, no problemo. But a campfire in the middle of.

[Alicia Krause]

The beach, that's got some s' Your kids.

[Adam Carolla]

That's going to be. That is, you would be descended upon immediately if you. You before you started the fire.

[Alicia Krause]

It seems really unjust that, like, you can make a Molotov cocktail and throw it at ice agents, but I can't make a mo. A mom cocktail and have it on the beach at sunset with my kids and my husband.

[Adam Carolla]

Like now the reality is, is it's illegal to throw the Molotov cocktail. But you'll get away with it.

[Alicia Krause]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

The mom cocktail on the beach and s' mores on the beach and a cigarette on the beach. You will not get away with.

[Alicia Krause]

No. They'd lock me up.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. That poor guy couldn't paddle board in the bay without the Coast Guard cutter intercepting him. So it was like. It's ironic that this man just died in the midst of ice and Hispanic and rioting. It's sort of. They represented Los Angeles in California in the golden era and it's zenith.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. And now it's hit its nadir. It said it's rock. We're rock bottom. And this is what we're able to do in 50 years from the Beach Boys to now. This is where we are with graffiti, garbage, shit show. And you can't do anything on the beach, by the way. You can't throw football on the beach.

[Alicia Krause]

Really?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah. When you look at the shop, you.

[Alicia Krause]

Can'T play like ultimate Frisbee or anything?

[Adam Carolla]

No. You may hit somebody with the Frisbee. Oh yeah. You couldn't light a sparkler on the beach.

[Alicia Krause]

So I. Well, my 11 year old has operated an illegal business on the beach, but.

[Adam Carolla]

Throwing or making bracelets for people or selling snow cones.

[Alicia Krause]

She dehydrates oranges from our tree and then she sells them on the beach. But she prefers to sell them in Malibu. Cause she can get like twice as much.

[Adam Carolla]

Premium?

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah, premium. Cause you tell somebody that just spent a bajillion dollars at Erewhon. This bag of dehydrated oranges is $7. They don't blink.

[Adam Carolla]

What do you do with a dehydrated orange?

[Alicia Krause]

You can eat them, they're tasty. Or like my husband puts them in a cocktail.

[Adam Carolla]

What do they end up like when.

[Alicia Krause]

You dehydrate them so the oranges still look pretty? Cause they're nice and bright and orange just kind of like shriveled up a little bit.

[Adam Carolla]

Why dehydrate them? Why not just sell bag of oranges?

[Alicia Krause]

Because I think that there's an allure to the dehydrated orange that makes it a little fancier than just like chopping up some oranges and bringing them to the beach. Also they last like a year, so you can buy them and keep them for a while.

[Adam Carolla]

Man. She's a little entrepreneur.

[Alicia Krause]

She is.

[Adam Carolla]

So I was.

[Alicia Krause]

But not allowed at the beaches.

[Adam Carolla]

I was trying to wrap my head around, like, what happened to Soul Cow? Bad, bad governance, for sure. Of course, this horrible sort of blue governance stuff. Also just tons of Hispanic culture. And then people go, hold on there, Klansman. But I wanna say this, by the way, I've been totally consistent on this because I've watched the San Fernando Valley turn into Mexico. Whatever the culture, if there's enough of that culture, it will turn into that culture. That's just how it works. It's not a brown, black or white thing. It's like Polish people. If enough Polish people move into a certain section of Chicago, like outside Detroit.

[Alicia Krause]

You'Re gonna have some pierogies.

[Adam Carolla]

They're gonna be Polish food, they're gonna be Polish songs, they're gonna celebrate the whatever. And then you have to go, all right, well, how are we with the Polish people? And then you go, okay, I like a pierogi, right? I like bratwurst. You know, I don't mind the music, like, or whatever. They take care of their own. Fine. They seem pretty cleanly. Whatever. Okay. Then you go, okay, how about if 10 million Muslims moved into London? Well, you go, all right, where are the Muslims? Well, they like to beat women for reading. Oh, okay. Well, then I'm not down with that. Okay, so, number one, we get to judge cultures. That's how it works. And also, if you think we're gonna talk them into something else over there in the Middle east, probably not. Look back and made me pop into my head because LA is essentially turning into Mexico. And then you go, well, what's wrong with Mexico? And the Mexican culture has a dichotomy, which is different than other cultures in that there's some real positive aspects and then there's shitty aspects of the culture.

[Alicia Krause]

What's unfortunate is the part of the Mexican culture that we like, would like, here are the people who, you know, go to mass every Sunday and send their kids to school and clean up their homes and, like, want to live the American dream. The negative is when in broad daylight, a friend is coming over to my house and she's like, pretty sure I just saw some guy tagging MS.13 on the public school.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Alicia Krause]

That's, I think, what you mean. And when you look at the Mexican culture broadly, unfortunately, it's run by corrupt politicians and drug cartels.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. So what I would say and what progressive politicians will never say, which is, come here and. And then adopt our culture. Essentially, you eat whatever you want, listen to whatever music you want, but there's A reason we're successful here. And it's because we don't tag things and so on and so forth.

[Alicia Krause]

But okay, we don't bribe cops. Or like, not anymore. Maybe the mob used to, but.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so now I was thinking back. I always tell people, look, you don't think the Middle east is a piece of shit. Go back and watch. Saturday night live is 50 years old. 50 years old. When you watch the news segment in a comedy show that's 50 years old. Chevy Chase starts out every other news segment with trouble in the Middle East. Trouble in the Middle east on a comedy show that's 50 years old. But it made me think. Dawson has the clip of one of my favorite movies, Breaking Away. Everyone knows. Who knows? Me knows. It's a great. It's just a great movie. Go watch. Is from 1979, maybe 80.

[Alicia Krause]

Wow.

[Adam Carolla]

It's now 45 plus years old.

[Alicia Krause]

Like the Warriors.

[Adam Carolla]

Daniel Stern. Yeah, Daniel Stern is standing on the corner. I mean, literally, like an 18 year old Daniel Stern. And the cop guy comes up and wants to know what's going on. And here's his answer from 45 years ago, guys. Well, we're a little disturbed by the developments in the Middle east, but other than that, we're pussy cop. All right. I think we need the cops part, though. That'll be. That'll be a better. It'll be a little cleaner. He'll get to ask what's up? Wow.

[Alicia Krause]

Daniel Stern, like, it's like he's. He's aged, but he looks the same.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, that's what you want. How are you doing, guys? There you go. Well, we're a little disturbed by the developments in the Middle east, but other than that, we're pussycat. All right, 79. He's asked, how you doing, guys? And he goes, we're a little bit disturbed about the developments in the Middle east. That's almost 50 years old.

[Alicia Krause]

Also still disturbed by what's happening in the Middle East.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, so what's the problem with the Middle East? The culture is the problem. And the people who go along with the culture are the problem. People always go, yeah, yeah, no, it's not. The people are great. It's the leaders. I'm like, no, no, it's the people. It's the whole culture. Who voted for these? What nationality is the leader? See from Sweden.

[Alicia Krause]

But in the Emirates and in Qatar and in Saudi Arabia and in Iran, you do have people that have, like, have been there for thousands of years. And they're just there because they're the Royal Family or they're there because they're the isolation.

[Adam Carolla]

But the people, like, I'll put it to you this way. As much as Joe Biden wants to talk to you about white supremacy being a huge problem in this country, there's no Klansman that's ever getting elected or going to be in power. We will not have it. We won't have.

[Alicia Krause]

True. You're not having, like, a proud boy or a member of the alt right. That's like actually getting elected to something.

[Adam Carolla]

We wouldn't stand for it.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. Does the Klan exist? Yes. And what kind of numbers? I don't know. I've never seen one. It's very small numbers. Now, MSNBC says every fourth America, everyone who voted for Trump is a Klansman. But the Klan doesn't exist here. And the reason why it doesn't exist is not because the smattering of Klansmen wouldn't like to take over. They can't because we won't allow it. We disagree with them.

[Alicia Krause]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

We're not gonna do what they want us to do.

[Alicia Krause]

To your broader point, though, you're like, if you let in too many of the people that are okay with the Klansmen, then we'll have a plan here.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, this is the problem. And so it's little things like, you know, people would say, yeah, we'll teach English in schools. You know, we'll teach English. They go, no, no, we have to teach in their language as well. It's like, let them immerse themselves in English. They'll learn it early.

[Alicia Krause]

So the data showed, because they started doing this@laUSD 13 years ago now when I first moved to California, and I remember looking at the data then, and then looking at the data 10 years later, and it's proven that that's not helpful to immigrant children to not speak.

[Adam Carolla]

The language, you fucking idiot.

[Alicia Krause]

No, it actually, they learn less in school when you're trying to teach them in their native tongue, and then it negatively affects them when they do graduate with their diploma and they're trying to go out and get a job. So if you actually wanted to help our nation of immigrants and immigrants here in California, then LAUSD wouldn't be teaching them in their tongue, they'd be teaching them in English.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know that they wanna help, but they want to appear to. So I said, when Endless Summer came out in 1974.

[Alicia Krause]

Such a good movie. Documentary, really.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a documentary and a Beach Boys album. But I'm talking about the Beach Boys, Sorry, but Endless Summer's fun Watch too. And On Any Sunday the documentary. They used to come out with all those things in the 70s. Anyway, the point is, when that record came out in 74, there were 1 million Hispanics in Southern California, or in LA, I should say. And now there's 5 million. So it's grown quite a bit from a percentage standpoint. And all I'm saying is, whatever the culture you're letting in, you have to be prepared. If you let them in with enough volume, that shall be your culture, where that is. So if you go, you can go from Pacoima if you're in Pacoima. If I took anyone in America, anybody. And I just drug them and threw them on a plane and would put them in a van with windows you couldn't see out of. And we jumped out in the middle of Pacoima or Sun Valley, and I said, just walk around, just kind of observe this world. They'd go, you took me to Mexico. That's what they would think. Okay, that's what Pacoima looks like. It looks like Tijuana because it's filled with Mexicans. If I took that same person and I took them to Irvine, they'd look around and they'd think they're in Sweden or something. Oh, wait a minute, what's that Chinese dude doing anyway? He's driving a Mercedes. Let it be. So you're gonna get what the culture is.

[Alicia Krause]

So then. But it's funny that you say this, because my husband, I love the flower market in downtown LA, and for the 13 years that we've lived in Los Angeles, I down to like the flower market. And it used to be more frequent, but it is adjacent to skid row. And my husband, who has spent some time in third world countries, is like, you could blindfold somebody, bring them, drop them in parts of downtown la, and they would think that they're in a third world country.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Alicia Krause]

Because you have people like openly doing drugs, selling drugs, prostituting themselves and taking a. On the street corner.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Alicia Krause]

Without any care. That isn't. I don't think that you can say that at all. That's not Hispanic culture, that's not Muslim culture. That is the failings of left government, shit culture, own culture, rich white people did that to us.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

In the. In the. With the warped mindset of we're going to help others and it's not helpful.

[Adam Carolla]

I agree with you, I agree with you, but I've said this before, but I will say it. I have not said to Alicia Crouse, when I was in South Philly years ago doing shows, said, I'm going to go by my swing, by my dad's old neighborhood in South Philly. It was garbage and sofas out on the street and graffiti everywhere, garbage. And I was walking, looking at my dad's old brownstone. And at some point I was just sort of looking around the neighborhood. It was a little bit dicey. At some point I crossed the street across just one avenue and it was sparkling clean.

[Alicia Krause]

Was it a gay neighborhood?

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, close. And I said, what is going on with this one street? And that must be where the city and the county, that must be the end. Because that happens out here. They go, the county stops and then all the homeless people or whatever. And I kept saying to people, why just this one street? And the guy goes, this is the Asian neighborhood. And I was like, oh yeah, they sweep, they take care of their shit. There's not garbage everywhere. It's a cultural thing.

[Alicia Krause]

Yep. Okay, well, because in Singapore you get.

[Adam Carolla]

Whipped a few streets, what do you want to do? Do you want garbage all over the place? Now I like a world where it's nicely integrated and I like a world where the black neighborhood looks at the Asian neighborhood and goes, hey, maybe they got the right idea over there, but we're not living in that world. And the politicians would say that would be a racist thought. All right, you have news, right?

[Alicia Krause]

We do have news.

[Adam Carolla]

I wanna show everyone a tape first. Just cause I have said to people a million times, you know, people think, you know, like, what are some aggressive animals? You know, they go grizzly bear or wolverine or something. The meanest animals on the planet are birds. Birds are the meanest. And I.

[Alicia Krause]

Have you seen the blue jays? They go after hawks like crows.

[Adam Carolla]

They don't recognize size.

[Alicia Krause]

No.

[Adam Carolla]

Someone sent me a tweet where crane landed in Japan. I don't know, maybe China. Was in China. It got into the Bengal tiger cage.

[Alicia Krause]

Stop at the zoo and it did not give a. You know What?

[Adam Carolla]

There are six full size Bengal tigers, average weight 428 pounds. And then there's a crane which weighs seven pounds.

[Alicia Krause]

And that crane has like big man syndrome.

[Adam Carolla]

He thinks, well, the crane has an ability to fly too. The crane can leave.

[Alicia Krause]

That's true.

[Adam Carolla]

He landed on the banks of water with Bengal tigers. And he looked at six. It looks like now there's four Bengal tigers. You'll see later in the tape, there's five or six of them. It's five or six full size Bengal tigers. And the crane is Walking toward the tiger, not flying away. The tigers are growling. They're large and they're growling. And the crane is walking toward this group of tigers that is looking at it. And now.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh my gosh.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, so the pause. The crane just lunged at the 400 pound tiger and tried to nip at it.

[Alicia Krause]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

What is the size? What's a full size male Bengal tiger weigh?

[Alicia Krause]

I bet you it's half. It has to be like £500, you think?

[Adam Carolla]

I go a little less.

[Alicia Krause]

Really?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, yeah, a little less. But they're big, a lot of fur. Fur doesn't work.

[Alicia Krause]

I feel like if we killed one and it was here in the studio, it would fill up this large table.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, they're big. Yeah. £500. Not a bad guess. If we were playing the prices right, I'd go below, but yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

Cause you want to.

[Adam Carolla]

But that's the mal. Well, the female may weigh a little less, you know, but all right, doesn't matter. The bird's ten pounds.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And the bird just lunged at the group of Bengal tigers. And the Bengal tigers.

[Alicia Krause]

And his neck sticking out like strutting his stuff.

[Adam Carolla]

It backed up. Wow. Between the male, between 480 and 650. Very good. Right in there. And okay, making my point even more. These things are 5, 600 pound beasts with huge claws and big teeth. And the crane can fly away.

[Alicia Krause]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

But it's not. And by the way, the crane just landed on Bengal Tiger Island. Why is the crane pissed off?

[Alicia Krause]

The crane's like, what are you doing in my space, man?

[Adam Carolla]

Just flew. Now it's walking at the tigers again. A group of tigers. The tigers are like agitated and curious and kind of weird. And now it flies at him again and tries to peck him again. There's six of them.

[Alicia Krause]

There's all these tiger. But look at that.

[Adam Carolla]

And now they're coming at him again. He wants to make. Okay, hold on. Pause, pause. The tigers plan. Sorry. The crane's plan is I'm Gonna take out six 500 pound Bengal tigers right now. And then do what?

[Alicia Krause]

I don't know. It's just kind of funny that also the tigers seem almost like hesitant. Like there's one lead guy and the rest are hanging behind.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, there's like three lead guys, but they are. I think the tigers are kind of confused. They're also in captivity.

[Alicia Krause]

They're like, is this thing high?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's like, who? Also, you made it your whole Bengal tiger life without anyone fucking with you.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh, true.

[Adam Carolla]

If you ever. I've had this happen In Hollywood, if you tell some guy to fuck off who hasn't been told to fuck off in like 40 years, they're mostly confused. Like, you think they're gonna be angry? They're more like, who the hell do you think? Who are you talking to?

[Alicia Krause]

That's true.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, so the tigers are kind of confused, intrigued. They're looking. It's a wall of three or four tigers in front. All right, so then the crane's gonna make its third move on this pile of tigers, which is fly at it. And now it just gets pulled in. And now this whole brood of tigers just destroys and devours this crane.

[Alicia Krause]

Their natural instincts, despite being born into captivity, just like, took over.

[Adam Carolla]

They all jumped in. One hooked them with the claw, pulled them into the group, and then it was a full clusterfuck.

[Alicia Krause]

They were like, the zookeepers really gave us like an extra, you know, dessert today.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay. This is how mean birds are.

[Alicia Krause]

They're, they're borderline mean and delusional.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I would say mean and delusional.

[Alicia Krause]

I feel like there's some, some girls from, from the Bible Belt, like some rednecks out there that are like this, that can be mean and delusional. Like when they get into a bar fight.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Alicia Krause]

Some Michigan gander girls can be like this too. Yeah, I like, it's like, don't mess with us. And it's like, honey, you're five to a hundred pounds.

[Adam Carolla]

I know.

[Alicia Krause]

And you're, and you're fighting.

[Adam Carolla]

No, I feel that way about Maxine Waters. Like mean and delusional. It's like you're 86 years old, bitch. The wig glue is now poisoning your brain. And you're sitting up there and you're going, you come for us. You better find some. I take you point that gun. You better hit your target because you met. Or What? Or what. 86 year old crazy delusional bed.

[Alicia Krause]

She is crazy delusional enough though, to do some damage. I think she would take out 80.

[Adam Carolla]

She's an 86 year old bag of bones.

[Alicia Krause]

It's in the roots, though. I think it's still in her roots. She'd take out her dentures and come.

[Adam Carolla]

At you roots like in the mini series or roots like, like your roots.

[Alicia Krause]

Like you're like how you grew up. Like there's parts of you that use.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

All right, what's in the news?

[Alicia Krause]

What's in the news is, thank God we have a first Amendment here. Which does not mean that you can block traffic, throw Molotov cocktails at ice agents, or deface public property. But it does protect you from bigoted and discriminatory jokes. Unlike in Brazil, where there's this guy, Leo Linz. He's been sentenced to eight years and three months in prison by a Sao Paulo judge. According to Euro Weekly News, the judge called Lynn's comedy bigoted and discriminatory against minority and vulnerable groups before convincing him, I guess, convicting him of practicing and inciting racism and religious prejudice. But get this, my brain went to Because Brazil can be pretty dang lefty. Remember the whole fight between them and Elon Musk over X? Yes, because there's a huge group. There's a growing group of people on the right in Brazil years ago. I don't know if this is still the case because I haven't worked there since 2020.

[Adam Carolla]

But you work there?

[Alicia Krause]

No, no. I was gonna say when I worked at Daily Wire in Prageru, but that was like way back in 2020. Outside of the United States, Brazil was like the biggest country of viewers and subscribers.

[Adam Carolla]

Interesting.

[Alicia Krause]

Like there Is it is a massive country. And I think that there's something that appeals to people about, like, freedom and independence and conservative thought down there. But apparently he wasn't just joking. So your mind might go to. Oh, he was just cracking, like, trans jokes, right? No, in the show, he made jokes about black people, obese individuals, elderly people, those living with HID iv, homosexuals, evangelicals, indigenous communities, people from the impoverished northeast of Brazil, Jews and people with disabilities. So he ticked off, like, everybody. You, me, like everybody. And he still gets eight years in prison for this.

[Adam Carolla]

My first 20 minutes of my set is about the impoverished people of northeast Brazil. So I better bite my tongue now or this guy ripped me off. He went full Carlos Mencia on my ass. Okay, everyone, I do not know why we think in the year 2025, any of this kind of semi quasi socialist, whatever, lefty, whatever, it just fails. It just fails. So why do we even think a version of it is good? Why do we even think parts of it are good? It's so weird. You take one of these countries, they prosper, and then they go hard left and into some sort of socialism, and then eight years later, people are eating out of dumpsters and their currency is worth zero. Have we never. Is there no lesson that humanity ever learns?

[Alicia Krause]

I feel like also comedy is the freedom fighter in a lot of ways. I don't understand Portuguese, so I haven't watched his stand up. But if. If you are offended by something or you don't find something funny, just don't watch it, don't engage in it, don't fund it. Right. And I think that people just the ability to, like, you can put the phone down, like, you can turn off the television, you cannot pay for the ticket to his comedy show. And that there's this element of, like, even if it's someone that you've never engaged with before, if there's enough people outraged, then just everybody becomes outraged. And cancellation is just like. What has to be done is that maybe just forget about the person and move on with your life.

[Adam Carolla]

Anything that falls under the umbrella of comedy should be a no fly zone for any censorship or any governmental whatever.

[Alicia Krause]

But you have to have ingrained protections for that, which we do here in the United States. And they don't have them there.

[Adam Carolla]

I know. Because if I say, oh, if your kid comes in and he runs to the kitchen and he knocks over a glass of milk and you go, you little scamp, I'm gonna kill you. Get back here, then that's nothing. But if I go, I'm going to kill you. Then it's something. So what is it? Well, one is said with comic intent, or at least exaggerated intent, and then the other, then there's a version of it that is leaving a message on your ex girlfriend's phone saying, you're gonna kill her tonight. You know what I mean? So what is it? Is it the words? Well, it's not the words. I'm gonna kill you and I'm gonna kill you. That's the same sentence. It's who said it, what was the inflection and what was the intent. And once you get on stage at a comedy club and you hold a microphone, then it's all comedy. And so there's nothing you can say.

[Alicia Krause]

Even. I remember years ago going through, like, HR when I was doing a radio show and by podcasting more frequently, and the HR person was like the legal person that they brought in to talk to, all the talent essentially said the same thing. It's like if someone who is my boss or my colleague said something explicit or I could potentially be offended by or view as harassment. If it was behind a mic, it was different than if it was, like, in a meeting with the board of directors or something.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Alicia Krause]

That there is a level of, even legally protection when it is supposed to be out there on the airwaves in the free market. I mean, it's now, as a woman, that can get iffy. Because if you come in every single day and it's like, ah, you're a bitch. You're a whore, like, every five seconds every single day. And that's the bit. And you say, I'm not comfortable with that.

[Adam Carolla]

I was kidding. And people know I have a little blue streak, but it's a term of endearment for me. But you were a little bit late, bitch. So. Okay, but I get your message. I'll back it up.

[Alicia Krause]

No, no, no. I'm saying that, like, I get that there can be a gray area there specifically, but broadly, it's like if. If I'm watching a comedy special and I don't, like, love every bit of the comedy, I turn to my husband. I'm like, do you think this is funny? If he says, yeah, we might keep watching. If he says, no, then we'd switch to something else. And it's like, but in countries like Brazil or in the European Union, you've seen people that get. In London, Like, a woman was arrested for praying outside of an abortion clinic. Like, thank God that doesn't happen here.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And I'll circle back to London. But yes, I endlessly do not understand. You know, I think about. It was like, if Ben Shapiro goes to Stanford to give a speech, and then they gotta shut the place down and get the riot gear out. And it's like, I went and looked at the lineup, so to speak, years ago, just as an experiment. Cal Berkeley Student Union activities or whatever. It's like, Saturday, they had Tiamos, so Papos, which is the Mexican folk band who was gonna play in the quad. And I would go, well, I'm not going to that. I don't like that shit. You know? And then later on, they had some woman who's gonna speak on lesbian theory and have a symposium. And I would just look at it on the schedule and go, well, I don't wanna hear her talk about whatever shit she's talking about for an hour. I'm not going to that. But it's the same with the movie theater. It's like, oh, this Impossible 5. Okay, I'll check that out.

[Alicia Krause]

Or even when you go to, like, Target or to buy something, I'm gonna shop at this store and not this store. Yeah, but that's the mindset.

[Adam Carolla]

So Ben Shapiro is coming to your campus to give a speech.

[Alicia Krause]

So what? Who cares?

[Adam Carolla]

You're not interested in that? You don't like what he has to say? Fine, don't go.

[Alicia Krause]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

Don't go. Why? What's that? Why is that different than the lesbian who's gonna speak to the student union?

[Alicia Krause]

They probably forced you to go, though. Like, because it's like, you can't. You're. You'd have a professor that would give you extra credit if you chose to go to that, versus if you ch to go see Ben Shapiro.

[Adam Carolla]

But we're all just on the sidewalk of life, and we're looking up at the marquee, and we're going, hmm, Mission Impossible 5 or Moonlight 2? I'm gonna go with Mission Impossible. But I'm not gonna burn down the theater that plays the one I don't want to see. And I think this is really what we're talking about here, which is folks like you and folks like me, we just want to be left alone.

[Alicia Krause]

That'd be nice.

[Adam Carolla]

But you won't do it. You won't let us be alone. Everything's gotta be everything. And then once you get in everyone's face, now it's on. But it doesn't need to be on. I just wanna go hear what Ben Shapiro has to say at Stanford. That's all.

[Alicia Krause]

Do you ever wanna hear what Gavin Newsom has to say, yeah, it's weird.

[Adam Carolla]

Cuz he doesn't say anything, but he does have a couple of. There's a couple of versions. There's like compassionate Gavin Newsom and then there's the one that trots out damn in hell.

[Alicia Krause]

Yeah. He's so serious. He's got a curse a little bit.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm angry. These damn people are trying to make a living. Okay, hell, sorry. But damn. These people are trying to make a damn living here and they're being thrown out. And I love what they. Everything for him is about some sort of weird chick emotion. They're being humiliated, they're being spat upon, they're being told they're less, less lesser. They're being told they're. It's like, no, they're not. They're either legal or illegal or whatever the hell he's been in here. He's a kind of litmus test to see if you're fucking retard or not. Because you like Gavin Newsom, something is wrong. You don't detect regular human emotion and stuff.

[Alicia Krause]

But here's the problem is apparently we have the audio of this, but apparently said, I like Newsom, but he thinks that Tom Holman should arrest him. So Tom Holman is. I feel like this is him trolling.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, I love when Newsom. I love when Trump slides in his bullet train and everything. It's a little.

[Alicia Krause]

He does it. He does.

[Adam Carolla]

I know, it's kind of a. It's an interesting technique because he just. Just takes a colossal, embarrassing failure of Gavin Newsom and then just slides it in a little. All right, we'll watch. Sorry. Doocy's going to ask him. Get the helicopter. He's daring Tom Homan to come and arrest him. Should he do it?

[Unknown]

I would do it if I were Tom.

[Adam Carolla]

I think it's great. Gavin likes the publicity, but I think it would be a great thing. He's done a terrible job.

[Alicia Krause]

Look.

[Adam Carolla]

I like Gavin Newsom. He's a nice guy, but he's grossly incompetent. Everybody knows all you have to do.

[Unknown]

Is look at the little railroad he's building.

[Adam Carolla]

It's about 100 times over budget. We're putting a flagpole over there.

[Unknown]

Under budget.

[Adam Carolla]

Under budget, flagpole. All right, the point. See, but it's so masterful because little train. No, what he does do it, he goes, I like the guy. See, it's smart because if you go, fuck that guy. He's a douche. Then whatever you say afterward falls under the heading of well, he doesn't like the guy, but you go, I like the guy. So he breaks it off, he sets it up.

[Alicia Krause]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Then he mows him down. Right. He does three stages. We're gonna look at that one more time.

[Alicia Krause]

Is this a craft in political comedy here too? It really is like a lesson.

[Adam Carolla]

You go, I like the guy, but he's incompetent. And then he pauses and he goes, everyone knows it. And then you go, I guess so. And now it's codified, and now we just move on. It cuts to the quick, because if I said, if I was putting together a writer's room and they were like, we need writers for the writers room. How about Ed Eddie Gordetsky? I'd go, fuck that fat douche. I never want to see him again. Fuck my girlfriend. Then you go, but you'd go, well, that guy's funny, but he fucked Adam's girlfriend, so he can't be. But if I went, I like Eddie Gordetsky. He's just unfunny and horrible. That's where the real slight comes in. All right, one more time, just so we can go to classic politician school. And then I'll bring up some embarrassing thing, and I'll do it in demeaning ways. Little trains. Little choo choo trains. Is he's daring Tom Holman to come and arrest him. Should he do it? I would do it if I were Tom. I think it's great. Gavin likes the publicity, but I think it would be a great thing. He's done a terrible job. Look, he's. I like Gavin Newsom. He's a nice guy, but he's grossly incompetent. Everybody knows. All you have to do is look at the little railroad he's building. It's about 100 times over budget. We're putting a flag pole over there.

[Unknown]

Under budget.

[Alicia Krause]

Under. It's the. It's the hand motions, too, by the way. I love how he actually called. My favorite part is when he calls out Gavin for liking the publicity.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

Because it's 1000% true. That man loves himself a red light.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, also, you never want this, but I've spent time with Gavin Newsom. He is a nice guy who's just in fucking competent or he subscribes to some fantasy thought.

[Alicia Krause]

He has a way of. I haven't met him in person, but he has a way. Whether it's like, you trump Hannity, Rick Caruso, everybody who interacts with him, know his ex, Kimberly Guilfoyle. Everybody that interacts with him they, like, still personally like him.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, maybe.

[Alicia Krause]

No offense, guys. Maybe that's why he's been able to get away with so much look, because he just shifts his narrative and he's like, I like Donald Trump. Remember during the fires when Trump came out and Newsom said the same thing? He's like, well, I wanna work with the President. I like the President. But then now he's putting in all the saline, pretending like he's crying while he's talking about ice raids.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I mean, it's kind of the difference between the right and the left. I do not assume that Anderson Cooper's a bad person. He's just lying and carrying some party line. And if everyone on CNN during COVID Chris Cuomo's not a bad person, they think Tucker Carlson's a bad person. That's the difference. They're somehow. Because they have sort of juvenile brains and they also work in a weird fantasy comic book land where it's like everyone's evil. In Disney movies, the evil guys actually kicks the dog on the way to wanting to burn the town down. What they don't realize is evil guys love their dogs. They love their kids. They're fine, and then they do evil, but they do a cartoon version of evil. They think Trump and Tom Holman and anyone they disagree with is evil as well as disagreeing with them. The people on the right don't feel like any of these people are evil. We just think they're sort of misguided.

[Alicia Krause]

And wrongheaded and misinformed and over emotional and not looking at all the facts.

[Adam Carolla]

And Newsom knows what he's doing, and I do not think he really cares about California. He's just playing to his constituency. But we have a clip of him doing it.

[Alicia Krause]

Doing the sincere. Well, it's a little sincere. Is angry.

[Adam Carolla]

It gets a little. This is angry ang sear. It says a little angry and a little sincere. And this is hopefully uses damn or hell. That's when he says damn or hell. That's what he means.

[David Mamet]

Get your hands off these poor people. They're just trying to get live their lives, man. Trying to live their lives, paying their taxes. Been here 10 years. The fear, the horror, the hell is this guy?

[Adam Carolla]

What the hell?

[David Mamet]

Come after arrest me? Let's just get it over with.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm a martyr, tough guy.

[David Mamet]

You know, I don't give a damn.

[Adam Carolla]

But I care about community hell. And Dan. Yeah, that means the hell are they doing? Hell?

[David Mamet]

These guys need to grow up, they need to stop, and we need to push back And I'm sorry to be so clear, but that kind of bloviating is exhausting.

[Adam Carolla]

Bloviating?

[David Mamet]

Arrest me.

[Adam Carolla]

What kind of blovating hell, okay, the hell these people just trying to serve ice cream to kittens, be left alone to serve sherbert to kitchen to hell, man. You come busted in there their pantry when they're trying to give kittens ice cream, kick the door in. What that. Living in fear, living in shame, looking over their shoulder. That's just. People are just here, man. They're just here being.

[Alicia Krause]

Speaking of manufactured, though, like fear.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. They snuck illegally here, you fucking retard. They're just here.

[Alicia Krause]

So you know that that number actually of illegal immigrants in their effect on the US economy in the workplace nationwide is less than 4%. In California, I think it's significantly more.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

Just based on the fact that it's. Agriculture and construction are two major, you know, infrastructures here that we have to help the economy. But. But talking about manufactured stuff, this comment the MSNBC reporter there asked him about is that. That's not cornet. What's that kid's name? Is that the Kornacki guy? Is that the. With the glasses? Anyway, that is so noosom made this comment after Holman, quote, unquote, threatened to arrest him and Mayor Bass. But here's the thing. Here's the thing that Holman actually said he would only arrest them if they interfered with ongoing immigration enforcement operations. So that would mean, like, he and Karen would have to be down there with the Molotov cocktails. And then MSNBC takes that, like. Oh, like, amps it up, asks Newsom about it, and then. Then next thing you know, you have the leader of the free world responding with the best that burn ever. I think I love that Trump is.

[Adam Carolla]

Like, they are the grossest. We're living in the time. Which is crazy. Which is intentional volitional misunderstanding of what people are saying. So they go, and by the way, it always means your point is shit when you have to use a ton of hyperbole.

[Alicia Krause]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Meaning if you say to me what's going on in LA or what's going on in California, I go, well, paying too much in taxes, roads are shit, traffic everywhere, and it's a trashy town. I'm done. It's accurate. That's my feelings. But when you start using hyperbole, like when Hobby lobby says, we're not paying for the pillow.

[Alicia Krause]

Yep. Or abortion, and then you go, you.

[Adam Carolla]

Wanna deny women healthcare. Yeah. She wants to go in and get a mammogram. And I'm gonna block the entrance to the hospital. No, I'm not denying women healthcare, saying, I'm not paying for the pill. They wanna pay for it, they can go buy the pill.

[Alicia Krause]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

But that's not denying healthcare to people. And when you go, we're gonna come in there and we're gonna arrest illegal criminals. And you go coming in unmarked vans, snatching people off the street and disappearing.

[Alicia Krause]

Them at Home Depot and an elementary school, which never actually happened.

[Adam Carolla]

That's not what anyone ever said. But the fact, the fact that you need to use hyperbole all the time means you're bullshitting us.

[Alicia Krause]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

That means you don't have a story.

[Alicia Krause]

And I think that the data shows that broadly the American people understand that we're being bullshitted.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, they should wake up a little. It's like when I go, LA is a garbage city. There's full of garbage. Everyone tags everything. I don't say, the mayor came to my home and tagged the side of my house. I just go, there's graffiti everywhere. Yeah, I'm making more.

[Alicia Krause]

Could we rein that in a little bit? Like, could we go back to like the late 90s, early 2000s of New York and apply what Rudy and Bratton did there to LA and maybe start arresting people or stopping them? When they're doing graffiti all over public and private property, it turns out they're probably with Lenox Hill or MS.13.

[Adam Carolla]

Karen Bass did this thing where they come up, they go, first off, they love an acronym. They go, now when we unleash the Shine program to clean up la, Shine means sing her. It's like, okay, your stupid little acronyms never fucking fix anything.

[Alicia Krause]

Just fix the street.

[Adam Carolla]

They like a little LA Shine. We had the SHINE program and we got together with small business owners and we got together with union leaders and church officials. Homes.com Some might say homes.com is the best home shopping site. It may be homes.com's super comprehensive and transparent agent directory. Or, or Maybe it's that homes.com is the only site that always directly connects you with the listing agent who knows the home the best. Perhaps it's because homes.com has the most in depth neighborhood content of any home shopping site that's extensively researched to highlight the personality of each neighborhood. Homes.com goes above and beyond to bring home shoppers the in depth info they need to find the right home. This is why it's my one stop shop. I go there when I'm looking at real estate. And you should too. Go to homes.com. that's homes.com. we've done your homework.

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[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

I got a better plan. How about you tell deadbeat dads to hang around and raise their fucking teenage boys? How about that, bitch? How about you tell dads. How about you say the one thing that would fix all of these problems? Dad, you're the disciplinarian. Hang around, raise your goddamn teenage son. Let him know between right, right and wrong. He's not gonna be out at 2 in the morning tagging freeway overpasses. Cuz you're at home and you wanna know where he is. And he's not leaving the house after the streetlights come on. How about dads, do your job? And then we wouldn't need all the cleanup crews and the shine program and all the other bullshit. They'll talk about everything but the root problem. But the root problem, which is, dad. Except for other times they like the root problems. When Kamala Harris is gonna go to the triangle countries and go find the root problems of illegal immigration. I'll be in San Salvador for a couple of weeks looking for migrants. Yeah, they like the root problem. They love the concept of the root prom. Never when it becomes judging their constituency.

[Alicia Krause]

Because the root problem in their mind is actually like the systemic racism of the country. And people like you and me and a lot of your audience that thinks that there's an important element of independence and free thinking. Right?

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Alicia Krause]

So we are the root problem, not a broken family.

[Adam Carolla]

Listen, I had Gavin Newsom in here once and I said dads, dads. I mean, you can actually. Now, Dawson, you gotta go find this thing. The part where I said dads. And it's a. It's a marvelous exploration of the human mind. To interview Gavin Newsom. It's exquisite.

[Alicia Krause]

I don't know if you're gonna.

[Adam Carolla]

It should be stunning. He'll go in a circle. He'll circle as many times as you want. I said, dad, we need more dads. And he's like, oh, yeah, but there's lots of. They always do that. What about the other brother? What about systemic racism? Dads, dads. What about systemic. What about predatory check cashing places? Dads, dads, dads. And then at some point when you try to nail them down. You go. At some point, they go, of course. Dads are important. And you go, good. How important? Where are they? Top five? No, there's just a lot.

[Alicia Krause]

He will never give you a hard answer.

[Adam Carolla]

You can't judge his group because his group doesn't want to be judged. And basically, you're fat. You don't want someone telling you to put the donut down, but it's what's good for you.

[Alicia Krause]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, you guys find that. I'm gonna tell you guys, I'm gonna be in Salt Lake City this weekend, Friday and Saturday, doing two shows. Wise guys. Oh, yeah. Listen to me. Bloviate in person, everybody. And the next weekend, I'm gonna be at Jimmy Kimmel's club over there in Las Vegas. And that's Thursday, Friday, Saturday. So it's gon out of the ace man on the road newsome and dads. It's somewhere in the middle of that. That thing.

[Alicia Krause]

He did the same thing during the presidential race. You know how the Republicans always do a debate up at the Reagan library? And he was in the spin room afterwards at the Reagan library, and he was talking to, like, Hannity, and Sean asked him about, like, the, you know, the wildlife bridge that they're building out, like in Calabasas or Woodland Hills. We have to build a bridge for.

[Adam Carolla]

The animals to cross $50 million wildcat bridges that go over the 405 so wildcats can go fuck on the other side of the 405 because they haven't.

[Alicia Krause]

Figured out in the last traffic, go.

[Adam Carolla]

Eat a crane on the other side.

[Alicia Krause]

Bengal tiger. And so he did the same thing with Sean in that interview. And my husband and I were just like, are you kidding me? Like, slackjawed. Like, what the heck? Where Sean was like, so what about this bridge for the animals and how much is it costing? And he did the same thing. He just circles around all these things of how important wildlife is, but also how important development is, and also how this and also how this. And then he never actually answers the question. It's so he's kind of gifted at it, which is why I'm terrified of that man running for president.

[Adam Carolla]

It is. But if you set him down in the studio and you lock the door, he's not so gifted because he can do it on tv. Because what ends up happening is the moderator in the debate is a lefty.

[Alicia Krause]

Of course. Well, like that MSNBC clip.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's NPR chick, and she's gonna be fair and balanced or something. But when you start to chase him around like, oh, can we get back to race? Can we get back to the subject of race? Let's please, please. Moving on. If you got that bitch traffic copping for you, you'll never get nailed down. You gotta come in here and close the door and I will nail you down and then you will sound like a retarded man.

[Alicia Krause]

I actually think it would be interesting to see him on the campaign trail because he is such, like a Bay Area rich brat.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

That to see him with some farmers in Iowa or some like, retired people in New Hampshire. I don't know. That. I don't know. I hope he can't cut it. I hope he cannot deceive the country like he has the voters of California. But also. Can I rant for a moment? Yeah, just a second.

[Adam Carolla]

Give me a thumbs up when you find that, Dan.

[Alicia Krause]

I know, because we wanna talk about.

[Adam Carolla]

That toward the end, toward the end of my interview with him.

[Alicia Krause]

If all the people who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 had voted to recall Gavin Newsom, he would not be our governor right now in California.

[Adam Carolla]

If all the people in California that voted.

[Alicia Krause]

The same people in California.

[Adam Carolla]

You said all the people who voted.

[Alicia Krause]

For specifically in California. Yeah, you' right. Specifically in 2020, here in California, California voters that voted for Donald Trump, if they had signed and voted in the recall, he would not be our governor.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow. So gotta motivate people.

[Alicia Krause]

Exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

And activate. Could have had the dads, could have had the sage from South Central, Larry Elder. I love Larry Elder. Although when the LA Times informed me that he was the new black face of white supremacy, you believed it. I was worried. I was like, larry, have you joined the Klan or the Proud Boys? Are you okay?

[Alicia Krause]

Are you carrying those torches in Charlottesville?

[Adam Carolla]

You are a black man from South Central. When did you turn racist? According to the LA Times, it's when you want people to pay less in taxes.

[Alicia Krause]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Then you become racist.

[Alicia Krause]

Do you know Winston Sears is the lieutenant governor? Black woman, served in the military. She's amazing. She's the lieutenant governor of Virginia and she just released an ad. And people the left is saying that she's now racist because she wants to get rid of the car tax. And I'm like, how is that racist?

[Adam Carolla]

I love the fact. Well, you know, anybody who disagrees with them is racist. Which is at a certain point you have to realize is way too thin now and you've used it too many times and it doesn't have any meaning anymore and nobody cares anymore. Like if somebody, if I heard CNN say somebody was racist? I'd just laugh. I don't even care anymore. You're now calling black people racist. And. And it's done. You've overused it. It's sort of comical. It's always my favorite Dave Rubin thing, who used to be with the Young Turks and was like gay and Jewish and from New York and very liberal. And I always say to these people, when did you make the transition into a conservative minded guy? And he always says, always goes, after I realized that everybody who disagreed with us was somehow racist.

[Alicia Krause]

And it's like, that doesn't make sense.

[Adam Carolla]

It could be on tariffs, it could be on the Middle east, it could be on fuel prices, it could be taxes. Taxes. It could be the green movement. But everyone was just racist who disagreed with anything you were talking about.

[Alicia Krause]

Yep.

[Adam Carolla]

And he's intellectually mature enough to realize that that was probably mathematically impossible.

[Alicia Krause]

He just did a great event at UATX and he talked about when Larry the Sage from South Central was on his show and he was like, here I had a conservative black man telling me why conservatives weren't racist. And it was kind of like mind blowing to me. I appreciate that about Dave, that he has that cognitive ability to recognize that.

[Adam Carolla]

I'll play a little Gavin Newsom and me arguing about the importance of dads.

[David Mamet]

You want to.

[Adam Carolla]

No, but you want to talk about the families.

[David Mamet]

But I understand that families are incredibly important. That's certainly part of it.

[Adam Carolla]

People have to be part of it. It's a very small part of it. It's minuscule.

[David Mamet]

It's a big part of it.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, big.

[David Mamet]

It is a big part.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, well, why don't you guys talk about that then if it's a big part?

[David Mamet]

I just brought it up. It's a big part.

[Adam Carolla]

It's a big part that you never talk about.

[David Mamet]

I do talk about.

[Adam Carolla]

No one on your side talks about that big part.

[David Mamet]

I think President Obama himself brings it up over and over again. Go back to his campaign speeches. He's given some remarkable speeches of importance of fathers in the context of the African American.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, you got to be a hero. You got to be a hero to raise your kid. No.

[David Mamet]

Well, you certainly takes courage to raise a kid.

[Adam Carolla]

I heard his speech. It takes courage, Gavin.

[David Mamet]

I don't know about courage.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what your president said.

[David Mamet]

No, but he. To his credit. Speech.

[Adam Carolla]

Let's hear what he says. He says it takes courage and we'll.

[Unknown]

Work to strengthen families by removing the financial deterrence to marriage for low income couples. And do More to encourage fatherhood. Because what makes you a man isn't the ability to conceive a child.

[Adam Carolla]

That's right.

[Unknown]

Having the courage to raise one.

[Adam Carolla]

Courage.

[David Mamet]

I don't know if the right. I get your point.

[Adam Carolla]

Courage.

[David Mamet]

But at least he made the point that I imagine that it's easy to have one.

[Adam Carolla]

One.

[David Mamet]

But you've got actually step up and be a man and actually raise one. And he probably used. I think that's what.

[Adam Carolla]

I know what you're saying. Anybody can eat at an ihop. It takes courage to pay the bill.

[David Mamet]

I don't.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It takes courage to stay there and pay that bill.

[David Mamet]

This is. The president has spoken not at his State of the Union, as you just exampled, but he's spoken about this in much more comprehensive and eloquent terms. And I think powerfully so, and I think principally so the issues.

[Adam Carolla]

This is his latest one.

[David Mamet]

But we want to go. The issue of race as it relates to the issues of poverty and what we had in the redevelopment agencies and concentration of poverty and public housing itself. And all of these things start to lead to why. The answer to your question of why is it concentrated in the African American community? Looking at that history, one cannot exclude that reality. I just think it's naive to suggest that those things don't matter when families were broken up.

[Adam Carolla]

How about the Jews? No problems in the past? No. Of course.

[David Mamet]

Every community's got.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, who's had it worse?

[David Mamet]

Even the Irish had sex.

[Adam Carolla]

Who do you think had it worse?

[David Mamet]

I get it.

[Adam Carolla]

But what about the Jews? It seemed to be. Why are the Jews doing well?

[David Mamet]

You know what? 1967, blacks couldn't even marry whites in this country. Not 1927. In 16 states. They were denied because people use religious arguments to deny people. I understand. And it's disgraceful.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay.

[David Mamet]

And that's why. And it's completely fair game now. I mean, a lot of Jewish families doing well, a lot of families struggling.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you gotta keep playing. Really? At the check place? Sure. Okay.

[David Mamet]

Every.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, go down to the check place.

[David Mamet]

Across the board, people are struggling.

[Adam Carolla]

Of course everyone's struggling.

[David Mamet]

I mean, look at the unemployment lines. A lot of it includes Americans of all types, all races, all ethnicities, all sexual orientations are all the same. My gosh, that's right. But, you know, and we could talk about the issues and the Latino community again by separating the challenge associated with English as a second language for a lot of folks, the issues of poverty.

[Adam Carolla]

Everyone who came here spoke perfect English.

[David Mamet]

No, I understand that. You know, I got it. I mean, I get your world, Adam, which is a little bit more clean cut and idealistic, a little less pragmatic in terms of the world.

[Adam Carolla]

That's what. Wildly pragmatic? They have a problem with family, they have a problem with. They don't focus on education. That. That will get them out of the problem. They're in education.

[David Mamet]

I don't think there's any community cares more about education than the Latino community.

[Adam Carolla]

Wow.

[David Mamet]

I don't know.

[Adam Carolla]

Check those test scores.

[Alicia Krause]

Asians.

[David Mamet]

No, people are. I mean, come on, that's not fair.

[Adam Carolla]

That's not fair.

[David Mamet]

Look at this school.

[Adam Carolla]

Test scores.

[David Mamet]

Look how lousy the system is.

[Adam Carolla]

Who?

[David Mamet]

Look how lousy the system is.

[Adam Carolla]

The system. I don't care who doesn't suck. If you have parents that are together.

[David Mamet]

And put in education, they care deeply about education, care deeply about healthcare.

[Adam Carolla]

Care.

[David Mamet]

Oh, they care about it.

[Adam Carolla]

Okay, well then why do some groups do so much better?

[David Mamet]

What do you mean by groups? Almost everybody's struggling groups.

[Adam Carolla]

I'm telling you, everyone is struggling.

[Alicia Krause]

I love the ability to change their healthcare and change the education system. Yeah, but it's all broken to do that.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Nobody cares more about education than Hispanics. Do you guys know that?

[Alicia Krause]

Except taking more money from unions that keep paying him off.

[Adam Carolla]

He's a fucking idiot. Did you hear him? He doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Alicia Krause]

He also uses all of the filler words. All the filler words, all the filler words, and the deeply, deeply. You know what that is? That's to buy you more time to think of an answer. Gavin, we see it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. I came up with a word for it. It's called when politicians. I've learned it from Hakeem Jeffries.

[Alicia Krause]

Oh, yes.

[Adam Carolla]

When he gets up there and he goes, it is wrong headed, it is not right, and it is wrong to take away. I call it redundant. It's dumb people repeating themselves and being redundant to buy themselves time to think.

[Alicia Krause]

I feel like you should put that on a T shirt. Don't be redundant.

[Adam Carolla]

Don't be redundant. No. The aforementioned Ben Shapiro doesn't say the same thing four different ways four times in a row. Because he's smart. All right, Alicia Crouse, you've done it again. Great job.

[Alicia Krause]

Don't know why you keep having me back.

[Adam Carolla]

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[Adam Carolla]

The studio once again. Legendary writer David Mamet. So many, so many classic films and also new films. New films wrote and directed by David Henry Johnson is in there Also the Disenlightenment, which is the name of the new book on politics and horror and entertainment. Good to see you again.

[Unknown]

Good to see you, too.

[Adam Carolla]

It's funny because Shia LaBeouf is in Henry Johnson, the movie, and I feel like Shia LaBeouf and you have sort of had some of the same arc in the sense that he'd go from Hollywood darling to ostracized a little bit, I guess. I don't know his exact situation. You're not there for the same reasons, but I'm just saying both now kind of outsiders a little bit.

[Unknown]

Yeah, well, you know, it reminded me of. It takes me back about 70 years to one of the first gags I ever heard in the Chicago room is it's prohibition, and a guy sits next to a beautiful girl at a speakeasy, and he runs and puts his hand on her knee, and she doesn't say anything. He puts his hand on her thigh. She doesn't see anything. And he starts to move his hand up, and he says. The girl says, when you get to the balls, you can stop. It says, elliot Ness, you're under arrest. So that's what I think of when you tell me about follow the car down to the thing.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's a good reference. One most people wouldn't have thought, but yeah. So the book, the movie, and you. I don't know. I don't know what you think of this. You know, people say to me a lot, you know, they say, well, all your opinions on Covid, you know, how do you feel? You feel like that hurt you, you know, in Hollywood? And I go, probably. But I can't say for certain, you know, or whatever your opinions are on Trump or Biden or Kamala Harris. Like I said, especially Covid, Hollywood didn't take kindly to thoughts that were diverse. But I don't know, what's your take on that in Hollywood?

[Unknown]

Well, I got into Hollywood a long time, like 40, 50 years ago, at the end of the studio system. And at that time, the studios were still administered by individuals, and their word was law. I mean, they were subject to a certain extent to the money people back East. But if they said, yeah, let's make a movie. You made a movie. So those are the people to whom one appealed. And I knew them all. And I would go to them, you know, with or without a producer, and say, here's the project. What do you think? Who's in it? They'd say, what's it gonna cost? And give me one line, what's it about? And if they said yes, you made the movie and the movie caught up with them and the. The contract's caught up with you. So now we're in an era of complete bureaucratization where nobody's quite sure who's making a decision, but you can be pretty sure that the decision is going to be made by a committee. So I think that Hollywood is in the same position as the Democrats saying, lordy, how do we appeal to men? So Hollywood's in the position of saying, lordy, how do we appeal to movies? And the answer is, well, what about making some good movies?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, how do we appeal to mending is something that's very bizarre because I've realized that I grew up on paper. I'm very masculine. My background was sort of football to boxing to construction, to wrenching on cars and racing race cars. And so it's like building and boxing and football and tools and all that stuff. So very, very, you know, masculine. On, on paper, I'm not really think of myself as more creative, but. But the things I end up doing and enjoy doing and doing is remodeling houses or racing race cars and stuff like that, or hitting the heavy bag or what have you. But you can't synthesize it. It's something that I'm interested in sort of organically. And I think they approach everything. It's the academia sort of approach to everything, where they're going to break off into a discussion group and they're going to crunch numbers, they're going to figure out a way. It's basically a way to go. How can we fool you into voting for us? And the answer is you need to be that person, not fool me into thinking you're that person. Get out of that mindset.

[Unknown]

So the problem with the Democrats is there's nobody home. They let the. At one point, the Persians decided they didn't want to run their country a thousand years ago because it was too much trouble. It was too much trouble to get into the military and to take up a spear and blah, blah. So they invited a lot of people who knew were slaves called Mamelukes. And at one point the Mamelukes got together. So we said, second, we're doing everything. Why do we need the Persians? So it's kind of the same thing with the left now. They invited the far left in as an extra added plastic submarine in their box of corn flakes. And the left said, well, hell, you know, instead of taking some of it, I'll take all of it.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Unknown]

Which is what we're looking at. So there's nobody at home. And people are trying to figure out how to still keep the insane lunatic left and appeal to a sufficient majority so they can get elected. And the answer is they can't.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, because their ideas don't comport with any sane people's ideas. And they don't even pencil out their math never works. You know, you want to defund the police, all right, that's just more crime. And you want no border wall or border security, okay? That just means more illegals in the country. And you want to lower test scores so that the black and the brown people who are not getting excellent grades in math can be pushed on to the next grade and embraced into college and stuff. But that's not going to make them better at math. You're changing every one of their ideas. Every one of their ideas is basically saying, look, you're fat, you're morbidly obese and you're pre diabetic. Good, here's a scale that'll change your weight from 300 pounds to 185. And you go, good, get me that scale. And what I'm saying is it doesn't pencil out, the math doesn't work. It's never going to work. And all you're going to do is take your cities implement. Homeless people need to be treated with compassion. They need a seat at the table. Everyone needs to bring be treated with dignity. No humans, illegal. Okay, good. Tons of homeless people, tons of illegals. That's how that ends up. It always ends up. It can go no other way. It's how it works. You go, look, if you have a dumpster at a national park, you need a lid on it with a lock. And the answer is why? Because bears get into it and they stop hunting and they stop foraging and they just hang up at the dumpsters and they eat the scraps from the restaurant. And then I go, I wanna live in a world with no lids on dumpsters, where those bears understand that they need to do the right. You're fucked, you're done. They're all by the dumpsters, they're all fat and they're angry, by the way, when there's not more slop put out at the dumpster. And no, they don't know how to hunt or forage anymore. Cuz you wouldn't understand what you were dealing with.

[Unknown]

Well, you're absolutely right. I mean, we're all looking at it. I think the people unfortunately, who are addicted to the, the fake news, that's all that they see. So they put what they see around them in the actual world into a third category. It's neither true nor non true, but it's the only thing that they must profess belief in. And it's just like belief in witches. I don't think anybody back in 1670 in Salem actually believed that there were witches, but they believed that if they didn't say there were witches, they were going to be in a shitload of trouble. If you do that a sufficiently long time, you actually come to believe in witches. Because the alternative is every time you say witches exist but I don't believe it, you feel like a lying fool, so you stop saying it.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. So is it fantastical to you to watch guys like Jake Tapper go out and be interviewed and say, well, we were lied to. We didn't know what was going on because the administration wasn't straight up with us. And I'm like. Like you didn't know what was going on? Everyone on the other side knew what was going on.

[Unknown]

Well, everybody in America knew what was going on. The thing about Jake, it's extraordinary what we found in the last several months. It's that there is no limit to what one will do if he or she doesn't have any shame and if they aren't ashamed of being shamed in their coterie.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, that being ashamed of being shamed is the part that I really fixate on, because I go on and you can watch these mashups, which are wildly entertaining, about Joe Scarborough doing his speech and explaining what he knows about Hunter Biden's laptop and being 100% wrong, or what he knows about Joe Biden being the best version of Joe Biden he's ever seen, and literally saying, hit your VCR recorder, take it to the bank, you're hearing it from the horse's mouth. And then goes on to be completely wrong about everything when they do those mashups about COVID And you get one shot, you're good, and you get the booster and you can't get it, you can't spread it. I would be wildly embarrassed and ashamed if there was long video montages of me being incorrect, lying or wrong just sitting around, just being shared on the Internet.

[Unknown]

Well, yes, of course, the thing about J. Tapir is, with all, all due respect, and I mean that, he's a big fat fucking whore. Because first off, he lied to the people who were paid to watch him. And secondly, he wrote a book saying, we know it all the time. And third, he and his partner, Adam Thompson are now on TV saying, you know what? We actually know more about Biden's self than we know about Trump. So this is a guy. As Mary McCarthy said, what kills us is not what we do, but what we do afterward. Because all of us have errors with all of us sin. All of us make mistakes. What happens is what we do afterward. So the only thing that Jake Tepper could do to retain my respect and to regain his own self respect is to say, you know what? I lied. I did. I did it for a reason. It's a reason that many people can perhaps identify with, because if I didn't say it, I would have lost my job and I have a family of support and blah, blah, blah. I went along in order to get along. And, and we could say, yeah, I understand that, but which of us is gonna say that?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, is there an alternative mea culpa where you go, look, I truly believe that Donald Trump was the second coming of Hitler and that he was gonna be a totalitarian dictator. And for that reason, I lied.

[Unknown]

Yes.

[Adam Carolla]

Just like the French underground falsified papers and the French underground had to lie all the time.

[Unknown]

Yes, absolutely. Yes, exactly.

[Adam Carolla]

So get rid of Hitler.

[Unknown]

Yeah. But you don't get to move on in your life under God and maintaining your self respect without admitting the sin. That's the whole beauty of the confessional.

[Adam Carolla]

Do you? I agree. Here's a esoteric question, but I've had it with people before, which is the theory that I'm putting together about the people who stand up and start saying super unpopular things like during COVID times, could be fired from their jobs or shunned or never invited to another cocktail party here in Hollywood or whatever. The people that go off and sort of do their own thing are good at what they do. And I have a lot of examples of them. But they're guys who are like Tucker Carlson or Ben Shapiro or guys of that ilk who are good at what they do. You can't argue that they create something and have an intellect that people will pay to hear or can generate income. And those people, they leave, they just go, I'm not doing this. I'm not saying that. I'm not going to. There's no party line. I'm just going off and I'm gonna say my own thing. And on a personal level, I sort of. When people would say to me, shut up about COVID shut up about COVID You're gonna get. You're gonna get screwed. You're gonna get screwed. I'd go, Nah, that's all right. I'm good. I can say what I want. If you're good, you can say what you want. If you're sort of middle management, you gotta be careful about it because you can't just go hang your own shingle and get paid. You've got to kind of stay with the company because you're just not that good. And I've noticed that most the line towers are not that good and they should be scared because they're not going to get another job as good as this one. But then there are guys like you who are good and you know you're good and it's not about grandiosity, but you go, I can share my opinions and I don't care if they're unpopular. I am good enough to still create and work well.

[Unknown]

They said, you know, really great wisdom is don't come looking for trouble till trouble comes looking for you. And trouble came looking for me. And I got black. A, I got blacklisted, and B, I saw my country going down the drain, this wonderful country that I'm nuts about. And I thought, you know what? It's time to speak up. And it was really like, Trump got the election stolen in 20. It was a blessing because he got four years to figure it out and get his ducks together and say, I see now that the swamp was much, much, much worse than I could ever imagine. Okay, So I got some time to sit around and saying, wait a second, let me figure out what's going on here. Let me figure out how I became successful. Writing plays that appeal to a sufficient audience of whatever stripe wasn't political. It was because of the First Amendment, right? And it was because we have a tradition of the theater of tradition of free speech. So then I saw free speech go down the toilet under Obama and under Biden, and I got personally whacked with it. And I said, well, you know what, I gotta figure this out and I gotta speak up, because who's gonna do it if not me?

[Adam Carolla]

How did you get personally whacked with it?

[Unknown]

Well, I got blacklisted by all of the left for an article that I wrote called Political, which the Village Voice retitled why I am no longer a Brain Dead Liberal, which is not part of the article. What I said in the article was, I'm not even politically civil to myself. For example, I'm a liberal, but I've been referring to myself as a brain dead liberal. That's not civil. So the pillaged voice comes out next week. The whole front page says, Why I am no longer a brain dead liberal.

[Adam Carolla]

What year is this? Sorry.

[Unknown]

Hell, I don't know, maybe 25, 20, 25 years ago. So all of a sudden, everybody lost my number. New York Times, the New Yorker, npr, pbs. Everybody just lost my number. I was just nobody. Well, hell, I don't. You know, as we say, I drove my car here, I didn't come on the bus, right? So it wasn't a question of me starving. But it gave me a good pause to sit on and say, I gotta understand this phenomenon. Why would people. And people would say to me, you've been accused of. And I'd say, dudes, you know, I've been writing plays and movies and books and television shows that appeal to people, irrespective of the politics for 40 years. And I guess I'm an artist. I guess so. And you want to talk to your artists. Leading off with, you've been accused of. Mm.

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[Adam Carolla]

What do you think propelled them with the kind of vigor that they were propelled with? Which is. I would be much more agnostic about somebody with a different opinion than mine, which is lots of people. And I have lots of opinions that differ from lots of mainstream thoughts. And I'm always right eventually. But I have to wait for a while. I've realized. But whatever my predictions are, whatever I've been saying 20 years ago, it comes around. There'll be some report about how sunscreen is bad for you or how taking three showers a day is bad for you, or like stuff I talked about in the past. I'll wait and then I'll be correct. But I don't know why or Covid why people have to get so animated.

[Unknown]

Because they were defending a lie and they knew it was a lie.

[Adam Carolla]

Is that what you believe?

[Unknown]

Of course it is. For example, I met some guys on the street who said the earth is flat. They had a big sticker on their car said the earth is flat. I thought, that's funny. I started talking, that's really funny. They said, no, no, no, the earth actually is flat.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Unknown]

And they started to explain to me why the earth was flat. I found it really amusing. I didn't want to kill them, but if somebody says no, wait a second, I got the shot and I almost died. What they're defending is a lie which affects them personally. It didn't affect me personally that a guy had an opinion that I thought was absurd.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Unknown]

But if you're frightened, one is frightened they're going to get outed and deprived of their job and their livelihood because they go contrary to a government narrative. The only way that they can keep their self respect is saying the problem is not Covid, but the problem is you. I gotta kill you. So what they're trying to kill is in effect really their own intellect.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. Did it scare you that or surprise you that these sorts of behaviors which we thought were pretty tribal and in the rear view mirrors we looked back on early man and we would study the history books about this tribe would war with that tribe and stuff like that, but they didn't know about the galaxy and science and they hadn't invented the airplane or the automobile yet or something. And then we had this sort or been to the moon flat. Earthers may think we we weren't to the moon, I don't know. But all of a sudden we had this reversion like we slid back 2000 years and these things that were inside man's DNA just came bubbling to the surface immediately and stuff. I thought we'd evolved past.

[Unknown]

Well, why would you have thought that?

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I'm not. I think if you studied the Bible, you wouldn't. But I'm an atheist, so I don't have any. That wisdom, that experience that you get from.

[Unknown]

Look, listen, you can still study the Bible. Being an atheist. I mean, I'm neither an ornithologist nor a fucking bird, but I can study a bird book by Roger Torrey Peterson.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's a very good point.

[Unknown]

Thank you. I thought that was well said.

[Adam Carolla]

I have been in church a little bit lately, and. Yes, you're right. But what I'm saying is I was more the Darwinian side, which is, oh, we have evolved past this. And it turned out we hadn't. I mean, we put down the spears and the rocks, but we got right back to being tribesmen over Covid.

[Unknown]

Well, listen, we were tribesmen scared before then. I mean, why did the Turks decide they had to kill all the Armenians in 1915? Why did Europe decide it needed to kill all the Jews in 1942? Why did the Houthis tried to kill all the Tutsis? Why do we have ethnic. It's been going on forever.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, no, I agree. I think what I should be clear about is I thought the United States didn't engage in that. Those are for those other cultures, and somehow we had evolved or were better than that, and I found out we're not.

[Unknown]

Well, the thing is, which one? I find when I read the Bible, it's about human nature. The Bible's really not about God. The Hebrew Bible, it's about human nature. So from my point of view, the Torah, the five books of Moses, the Hebrew Bible is not about what happened, but what always happens. What is human nature? And the point is, in that it's really not very good that our animal instincts are always just below the surface. That's why we have a ten Commandments says thou shalt not kill. We don't have a commandment that says always use the smallest fork first, work from the outside in.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, no, I agree. I was disappointed that we're still reacting this way. And then a bigger question or something I've been thinking a lot about is women. Because when I turn on the news and I. I see the people pushing and shoving and pushing cops and screaming and on college campuses and in front of Tesla dealerships or standing next to Bernie Sanders and screaming into a microphone. I think we have that clip Andrew, the Bernie Sanders one. But women very recently have really reacted in a way that I'm not used to. You're certainly not used to growing up, which is I did not see women fighting. Fight. When I was young, it was a novelty to see women fight, much less push cops or spit on cops or scream. Scream. I'll. I'll play this clip just to illustrate my point, but it was. It's. They seem sort of unhinged. I'll play that. We are trying to be reasonable. We're gonna get you. We're gonna let you on the mic. It's funny.

[David Mamet]

We're going to give you the mic.

[Adam Carolla]

We will.

[David Mamet]

After Senator Sanders. After Senator Sanders.

[Adam Carolla]

After Senator Sanders.

[Alicia Krause]

After Senator Sanders.

[Adam Carolla]

After Senator Sanders. Do not tell me. All right, I have Bernie Sanders, wheelman, bagman, second story, man. I don't know some of the word man in it. First off, I get endless enjoyment when they devour each other, when they turn on each other, when they're not woke enough or Bernie Sanders isn't socialist enough or whatever. I like it. But women have really been changed and sort of weaponized. Yeah, of course.

[Unknown]

Listen, look, if you.

[Adam Carolla]

Look, I don't mean everyone, but something is going on.

[Unknown]

If you look at Fox News, the women extraordinary bench of the newscasters and the podcasters and the people who come out of Fox, most of them are women. They're just extraordinary. And the people to whom they reach out are extraordinary women. And what one sees, if one is me, is that the conservatives are much happier people than the liberals because the conservatives, A, aren't living a lie and B, are having a good time being alive and being in a fight. That doesn't mean they win the fight. They may win or they may not win, but they're having a good time actually having a fight. The problem with the left and part of it is what they're doing to women. Left has, in my lifetime, always been misogynistic.

[Alicia Krause]

Always.

[Unknown]

I'm going back to the 60s because they patronize women just like white left patronized black Americans, saying, obviously you can't do this on your own. Obviously, you can't make a living on your own. So similarly, when the women's movement started, the modern feminist movement with Jermaine Greer and those guys, they said, a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle. You don't need a man. You don't need a man. And then the pill came along, so the men said, wait a second, we have penicillin and we have Enovid and there's no danger of pregnancy and there's no danger of disease. And the women are saying sex should be free and should not be related to either courting or marriage. Well, hell, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get laid. So, you know, you got 50, 60 years of that and you got a lot of very unhappy women because they aren't getting what they deserve and what they need.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Unknown]

Which is protection.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. So the left is doing what they always do, which is they're fighting with nature, fighting with God, nature. And what I just sort of comfortably call what is. They go, I've said it for a million years. Why are guys building the bridges and women raising their kids? I go, because it is. That's the way it is. It's fine. There's roles. It's fine. We are trying to take this, that round peg and shove it in a square hole. Like, of course there's going to be unhappiness. It's essentially, people are not so different than animals. If you took a marlin and you put him on the dock, the marlin would flail around and be miserable. You throw them in the ocean. It's magic. You know what I mean? That's where he's meant to be. Talking people out of what their sort of. Their biological mandates is going to make them miserable. And with women, that's pretty much all they do is just try to convince them that they should be doing something different than what they're meant to do. And some of them are meant to go run Fortune 500 companies, but the majority of them would be happier raising kids and being protected and having somebody provide.

[Unknown]

Well, here's the thing that I think. I don't know whether or not they'd be happier raising kids, but I know they'd be happier being happy.

[Adam Carolla]

I should say. Sorry. Satisfied. Because happiness is. It's kind of fleeting a little bit, but satisfaction. It's like there is a satisfaction when you're doing what you're supposed to be doing.

[Unknown]

Yeah. The only problem with kids is one has to raise them. And the good part about men is for 10 million years, women have put up with our lies, saying, you know, geez, I'd love to stay and raise the diaper, but I have to go out and.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. Yeah. No, listen, there's blame to go around. I'm saying the Democratic Party has taken women and tried to convince them that they shouldn't be doing what they sort of long to do and what's sort of biologically mandated to do. And then they take young boys who are biologically Mandated for rough play and rough housing and wrestling and told them that was toxic masculinity and to knock it off. So you got a bunch of young boys who are nine year olds who want to just go out in the lawn and wrestle each other, and they've been told to go in the house and watch tv. And you got a bunch of women who want to play dress up and dolly and stuff like that. And they're told not to do that. And so they have a miserable generation.

[Unknown]

Yes, that's correct. So as we see, if you start with a lie, you have to keep everyone saying now doubling down, doubling down because people get used to the lie. And you have to say, well, they say it's a terrible thing to be a housewife. You won't say a housewife. Now they're saying it's a terrible thing to be a woman. Somebody doesn't want to be a woman, they want to be a man. They say, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a terrible thing to be a woman. So the left keeps chasing absurdity to the point where now where they're saying we have to defend illegal aliens who were criminals and have come here and we're going to stop them from being deported although they've committed heinous crimes and broken our laws because we have to have to give preference to the illegal immigrants rather than to American citizens. Because the left keeps chasing absurdity farther and farther and farther. And the most interesting to me thing I saw lately was Greta Thunberg, right? Greta comes out and she says, the earth is burning. I'm gonna stay home from school. Okay? Okay, Good for you. Woman of the year, Nobel Prize. The earth is burning. You stay home from school, girl. So now it turns out out the earth is not burning, that the polar ice caps are getting thicker. It never was burning. So what does Greta Thunberg do? Does she go home and say, oops, no. She gets on a boat and she goes to Gaza. Because now she's defending, who the hell knows what she's doing in Gaza.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes. It's an interesting thing, which is if it wasn't a movement, then there would be some diversity on the different subjects. Like if somebody said to me, greta Thunberg, do you know her? I'd go, no, I don't know. Do you know anything about her? I know she hates global warming. Okay. Where do you think she comes down? Between the Jews and the show? She's definitely on the Palestinian side. Well, how do you know that? I know.

[Unknown]

Exactly. So. But here's my question.

[Adam Carolla]

The Opposite of everything.

[Unknown]

Here's my question. What do the two things have to do with each other? The answer is nothing. Nothing other than they're a way of working one's way farther into the group and making sure that person is protected.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. How did everyone on CNN who learned to pronounce the word ivermectin 15 minutes earlier become an expert on ivermectin? They've never heard of it. I mean, they answer. When someone is sort of agnostic, then I know at least they're being intellectually honest. You know, somebody said to me, ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. Is it effective in fighting Covid? I'd go, I don't know, talk to your doctor.

[Unknown]

Yeah, sure.

[Adam Carolla]

I wouldn't have a very carved out, strong opinion about it. That means you're lying. It's impossible. You've never thought about it. You've never brought it up. You have no background in it. You have no expertise in it. You know nothing about it. So how is that? And how do you know where these guys are gonna land on every subject? Because I know where Greta Thunberg is on the border, and I know where she is on the trans movement as well.

[Unknown]

So the answer is they can land wherever they want. But when the government gets involved in saying wherever they land, we're going to tell you what you need to think about. Women and men's sports, men and women's sports, the border, trans people, ivermectin. We're going to tell you. And if you don't do exactly what we say, we or our assigns are going to ruin you. The problem is not divergence of opinion. The problem is the government limiting freedom of speech. Or the servants of the government, those whores in the legacy media, limiting freedom of speech. And then down the line, all the corporations running crazily scared to the point where you get this cute little girl boy. What's in Dylan, what you call him?

[Adam Carolla]

Mulvaney.

[Unknown]

Yeah. Cute kid, right? All of us. But he's a transsexual. And the most important money making beer in the world, Bud Light, which is for us, Ds them and goes, guys, puts him in a commercial. That just doesn't make sense. Now he's selling some perfume. Great. It looks like a great perfume. But who would hire him? And they lost a billion dollars doing that. Yeah, Anheuser Busch.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, the companies are just running scared trying to glom on some dollars saying we could make more money at our target if we made a pride aisle during Pride Month or something. Now they don't care about Pride or Gay Pride or Dylan Mulvane. I don't think any of those people care about any of that stuff. I don't think the Democratic Party cares about black people.

[Unknown]

No, of course they don't. But they do care about money. And it's a stupid decision. For example, whoever.

[Adam Carolla]

No, they make the initial decision chasing money, but then, like betting on the wrong horse, they lose and then they reverse. So Budweiser, all these companies go woke in a pursuit of money, popularity, brand, whatever, embracing whatever. Look, everybody had to put a black square on their Twitter page five years ago for Black Lives Matter. Matter for solidarity of Black Lives Matter. Now Target or Chevron or Budweiser don't care about Black Lives Matter. They have no interest. I don't know if they know what they do. They certainly don't care what they do. And I've never heard them speak about it before this, but they happily put that check mark up because they don't want to be ostracized. And it is a pursuit of money. And. And I would argue when it turns out it's a sham, and it's always a sham. It's all lie. Every single thing they said about Black Lives Matter, every big case they've gotten into, Kyle Rittenhouse, whatever. It's all Hunter Biden's laptop. Whatever they said was a lie, all of it. But they do it. And then people go, well, what about the fact that Pepsi gave a million dollars to Black Lives Matter? And now, now that woman just bought a house up in Topanga Canyon for 2 million bucks or whatever. Aren't they pissed they got ripped off? And the answer is no. They weren't buying any product. They were just buying some Grace, you know what I mean? They were buying into the thing. They gave a million dollars, and they got a million dollars back because they got to say, we gave a million dollars to Black Lives Matter. Now the Black Lives Matter turned out to be a scam. It's neither here nor there. To Pepsi, who doesn't really care about black people. Just like the Democrats. Democrats don't.

[Unknown]

Well, that's for sure. It's interesting times. A very, very interesting time.

[Adam Carolla]

It is interesting times.

[Unknown]

But, you know, somebody said it was somebody. Some can't remember one book I was reading, and some guy says to another, you know, you're going to get into a lot of trouble. The other guy says, what's wrong with trouble, right? We get into trouble every day of our lives.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, may you live in interesting times.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And it is a good. And I think I agree with you. I think. And that when people would tell me to shut up, I would say, I'm a comedian. I'm not gonna shut up. That's the job. The job isn't go along with the status quo. You're a comedian. And as a writer, artist, playwright, you know, author, isn't that kind of. Don't you feel like at least you have to say what you think is true?

[Unknown]

Well, I always said, you know, it's a little bit tweaked. I always said I'm a gag writer because that's basically what I am. I'm a class clown. And I started writing plays, which are a collection of gags. The idea of a gag, the idea of a laugh is people laugh because they're released from repression. They said something you didn't realize was true, you said something you didn't realize was true. Or you let them experience the fact that their reason is no goddamn good. Right. For example, what do you call a black man who flies a plane?

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know.

[Unknown]

A pilot.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Unknown]

Okay, so that's funny because it's going someplace you didn't quite expect. Oh, that's cool. That's a good joke. I get that. Right. It didn't teach them something. It released them for a minute from the agony of having to think through every fucking thing every moment of the day.

[Adam Carolla]

So how. You know, I guess when you think about Quentin Tarantino movies, you go, there's a lot of humor in that. I mean, even the intense parts or the serious parts have tons of humor in them, I think. And then I think about some of your stuff have intense scenes, but lots of humor within the intense scene as well.

[Unknown]

Well, the thing about drama and tragedy is they're really the same thing as comedy. The closest form to comedy is not drama, but it's tragedy. Because what tragedy does is we have a punchline at the end where we said, oh my God, I knew it all the time. I knew it all the time. Which is exactly the same way that comedy and my. My movie that you very graciously alluded to Henry Johnson. It's the same thing. It's this. This character who seems so good willed and seems the victim of fortune. And it turns out at the end that he's just wreaking havoc all around him because he's so good willed. And it's the same thing at the end of Othello where, you know, Othello is really not that different than a Comedy. You could write Othello with a laugh track, and you'd say, it's really funny, right? That this guy's making all these stupid moves because this. You know, it's kind of like Everybody Loves Raymond with Venice because he's making all these stupid moves, because this guy Othello is saying, I bet I can get him to turn on his wife. Oh, look, I'm gonna do this. Look, I'm gonna do that. Wa ha ha ha ha. Oh, look, he killed his wife.

[Adam Carolla]

By the way, the movie Henry Johnson can be found [e-mail] yeah, Shia LaBeouf. And the cast seems very talented. I watched the trailer, and. And LaBeouf is interesting that he seems very talented, but he also seems, I don't know, a little tormented or something. I don't know exactly what the rap is with him, but how did you find working with him?

[Unknown]

Well, he's great. Not a good actor. He's a great actor.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, I agree.

[Unknown]

I have a time of my life working with him. Oh, are you kidding me? He's just a marvelous human being. He's such fun, you know, Completely devoted to him, and I think it's vice versa. I'm gonna do a new movie with him, and I do anything with him. And he said I was gonna do this movie where he played Oswald in a JFK movie I was gonna direct. And Louis CK Was coming very close to saying he was gonna play Jack Ruby. He was a great cast, but other than that. I don't know about tormented. I haven't seen anything.

[Adam Carolla]

I mean, I see him on tmz, you know, yelling at people or something like that. Like, they painted him as if he's, like, a little unhinged. I never met him, but don't know him. Well, Eccentric Let's.

[Unknown]

Well. Oh, and we aren't.

[Adam Carolla]

I don't know.

[Unknown]

Listen, why am I not driving a cabin? Why are you not working at Jiffy Lube?

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, well, I don't know, because people have tried to convince me that there's something wrong with me, but I feel. I feel really sane.

[Unknown]

But then maybe that's something wrong with you.

[Adam Carolla]

Part of my insanity.

[Unknown]

No, no. Eccentric is not the same to me as being fucked up. Right. It's being individual.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, I. You know, I don't know. Let's talk about that process. I was a person that was good with my hands and kind of good at sports and really attracted to mechanical things. I just. People, I think they don't really understand it, but when a Person, like a young person, they understand. When a person's very attracted to music or singing or dance or even loves kids or loves working with animals, like at a young age, it kind of presents. I was a mechanical nut when I was a kid. I was attracted to it just like a person that loved dance or performance or anything or singing. And it was just something I was very attracted to. And later on that's why I probably became a carpenter. But I kind of quickly realized that the stuff I like the best, which is cars and race cars and racing cars, was way out of my price range. I wasn't going to be able to do it. I had to drive a truck. I didn't want to drive a truck. I wanted a cool, fun sports car I could wrench around on and stuff. But I, I never was going to get it. And then I would get the car magazines and I would just stare at them like a 14 year old looking at a Playboy. And I could see the, I'd see the price tag. It's a 94 BMW M3, $41,500. And I'd be like, I'll never have it, I'll never own that car. And then I thought, so you do have an ability to do comedy. You have an ability and if you explored that, maybe, probably not, but maybe it would pay off and you could get that BMW M3.

[Unknown]

Well then look what happened.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, but it was pretty pragmatic with me. I like, comes fairly naturally. It doesn't feel like work. But it was a sort of pragmatic decision to a lot of, to a great extent. It wasn't as pie in the sky or it wasn't that artistic. It was just like you could do this or you could do that, but this pays a lot more than that.

[Unknown]

Well, if you have to, one has to support oneself. It doesn't make any difference what pays more than what you got to take a job and if you don't, the people who go to these elites universities, there's people screaming here, they've never had a job.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Unknown]

So what did they learn? Shut up, show up and if you can't stand it, leave.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Unknown]

But someone's going to be paying the rent. So someone is paying the rent to these savages over there. Whether it's mom and dad or the Palestine Liberation Front or getting a scholarship from these universities who are saying, hey, come to our place and scream. But that's how one learns to control oneself.

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[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, listen, I'm. I saw the story the other day of, you know, Trump wanted to take the money away from Harvard and give it to trade schools. And I was like, God bless.

[Unknown]

Amen.

[Adam Carolla]

I love that story. I've been shouting about it for years. Trades.

[Unknown]

Amen. And so many people, especially in my various rackets, they think that they can, as it says in the old jailhouse toast, get your ass in the water and swim like me. So in show business, you got to get your ass in the water and swim like me. So someone who thinks they can lead this by going to some school and getting a degree which is going to let them, them cross deck themselves into our business, they're never gonna do it any more than in boxing. It's gonna be the rich kid who says, train me, but I'm not gonna spar.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, right.

[Unknown]

It's the same thing, you know, you gotta get the shit kicked out of you in a slave.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you know where you were going with your writing and playwriting and creativity early? Were you drawn to it very early?

[Unknown]

I still don't know where I'm going.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, yeah, I get that part. I just mean. I mean. I mean, did you find. Did those around you encourage you? Did they say, this is what you should be doing?

[Unknown]

No, not at all. I was an actor, and my friend, William H. Macy, we started a bunch of theater companies together. I said, you know, Bill, I'd be the first person to say I'm the world's worst actor. He said, dave, you'd be the second person to say that. So I was working at Second City in Chicago. Very early on, it just started. I was a busboy, and I was very friendly with the family. The Solomons family owned.

[Adam Carolla]

How old were you at that time?

[Unknown]

17, 18 years old. And so I would see these shows every night, three times a night, working as a busboy.

[Adam Carolla]

Did you take the Second City job because you were attracted to that environment, or is it because you just needed a job as a bus boy?

[Unknown]

Well, both. I mean, I was in high school at that time, and I was friendly with the family that owned it. And somebody said, son, don't go into the theater. If you do that, all you're going to have. So I was having the time of my life, and I said to the guy who owned Second City, he said, what do you want to do? I said, I want to be a playwright. He said, really? Yeah. He said, Name 10 great plays. He said, Not Shakespeare. 10 plays. I couldn't do it right. He said, you can't be a playwright. You can't make a living being a playwright. There aren't any. So I said, oh, okay. And eventually I backed into it because I started directing the theater, and then I needed something to do with my theater company, and we didn't have any money for royalties, so I started writing for them.

[Adam Carolla]

Oh, you couldn't pay for them, so you had to create your own.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

And what was your first. How was your early work? How would you assess it?

[Unknown]

Same as my later work. You know, I like it very much.

[Adam Carolla]

Right, so you didn't. Meaning most standup comedians, if you go, I'm going to show you a tape of you doing Comedy when you're 22, they go, no, no, no, I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it. Oh, I was such a hack. Or I didn't know what I was doing or it was bad. They wince when they see it. But I don't know if playwrights have that feeling.

[Unknown]

No, because the thing about playwriting for real is you do it for an audience, and if they like it, you get money. And you don't have to go back to cleaning offices next week. If they don't like it, you better fix it. Figure out how to fix it it or give it up. So playwriting is a constant test. So you learn from doing it for an audience. It's the only way to learn. You can't learn playwriting in schools because all the audience is suborned. They're your fellow students. They're going to say, well, I'll laugh at this, although it's not funny, and I'll tell you it's great, and blah, blah, blah, and P.S. i'd like it if you did the same to me. You can't learn it for the teachers because teachers are just critics and they each have their own axe to grind. But the only people who don't have an axe to grind are the audience, right? If you can amuse them, they'll laugh, right? If you tickle them, they will laugh. And if you cut them, they will bleed. And if you wrong them, shall they not revenge?

[Adam Carolla]

You know, it's funny. The only playwright's not a job or barely a job. But my grandfather, my step grandfather, was a playwright, right? And from Hungary when he was young, before he moved here. He was a Jew in World War II and Hungary and Hitler and all that kind of stuff. But in Hungary, playwriting was a job back then.

[Unknown]

Well, yes, and there used to be a lot of the Hungarians, of course, came to work here in the movie business. A lot of them had been playwrights, and a lot of them. A lot of the early movies to talk about were adapted from Hungarian plays, really. And there used to be a sign at MGM leaving City saying, it's not enough to be Hungarian. You must also work.

[Adam Carolla]

It's interesting that that was such a culture, because Hungary is very exotic or foreign to most people around here. I mean, we kind of. You get. You get France and you get Germany and you get England, but Hungary, see, feels weird, you know, and small, and nobody knows. You know, I've. My whole life, my grandfather would cook, you know, and I'd say to people, have you ever had chicken paprikash? And they'd go, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I go with no kettle, you know, And I'd goulash, come on, it's good. And they'd go like, I've never even in all of. And believe me, I've looked in all of this city, there are literally 2,000 sushi joints and. And 4,000 Indian joints and 10,000 Thai places. There's not one Hungarian restaurant. It's too weird for them or it's considered exotic or something. It's great food. But the point is, my grandfather came here and was taken in by the Hungarian artist community, who, by the way, it wasn't the government taking care of him, it was the community that took care of him. And they, you know, he barely spoke English, but they gave him a little stipend and they volunteered. You know, they all ponied something up and got him a room to stay in and stuff like that, and they helped him. And then he was writing, you know. Next thing you know, he's writing Gunsmoke and Bonanza and, you know, gets nominated for the affairs of Susan and writes to mole people and stuff. He has a career.

[Unknown]

That's crazy.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, it's kind of crazy. But he would tell me, yeah, there was a lot of Hungarian writers here, and I thought. And his brother Bela was a celebrated Hungarian writer in Hungary as well. And he would tell me stories and stories. You know, I'd go, bedtime stories. I slept there a lot. He'd make up these stories about the man with two heads. But they argued. They didn't want, like, the same food, you know, and stuff like that. And that's why I realized, oh, the Hungarians, all they do is they're storytellers.

[Unknown]

That's wonderful. They're also great photographers. Some of the greatest photographers in the world.

[Adam Carolla]

Really.

[Unknown]

Hungary. Sure.

[Adam Carolla]

Robert Capa did not know that.

[Unknown]

Emri Curtis.

[Adam Carolla]

So you then, I guess, obviously aware of this wave of Hungarian writers that came here early, coming off of being playwriters and now coming into the film industry. Right.

[Unknown]

There's a famous story that they all lived around Santa Monica. All the Eastern Europeans, the Central Europeans, they were all Jews. They lived in Santa Monica, and they were. Billy Wilder, who was Austrian, came into a meeting of them one day. They were all hanging out, drinking, and they were all speaking Hungarian. And Billy Wilder says, boys, boys, this is America. Speak German.

[Adam Carolla]

That's funny. And by the way, Hungarian, it sounds like gibberish when you hear him talk. It's a crazy.

[Unknown]

It's like Finnish, I believe. Right.

[Adam Carolla]

I do know when you hear people speak Spanish or Italian, even French, other languages, you pick out little bits and pieces of things you could understand. Not with Hungarian, you don't know anything they're saying. They're just going to. Talking in what sounds like gibberish. This is weird. It doesn't seem to resemble anything but underrated food and writers. And I didn't know that. It must have been from, what, 1930 to 1965 or something at some point.

[Unknown]

Maybe it was also the wine. Right? Bull's blood wine. Yum, yum, yum.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, I agree. I'm a big fan of the Hungarians. I just thought it was peculiar that they came here. But I guess they wrote plays and then they came here.

[Unknown]

They came here so they wouldn't get killed.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, yes. Laszlo Gorog was a Jew and he figured out which way the wind is blowing. And I tell people all the time who sit around and talk about Trump being Hitlerian, I'm like, why don't you move? If he's coming after you, why aren't you moving? Because Laszlo Gora got which way the wind was blowing in Hungary, I don't know, circa 1940. And he left because he did believe there was a real menace coming his way. He was a Jew. But every one of these talking heads on MSNBC who explains, Trump's coming after us and he's gonna make a list, he's gonna round us up. If you believed it, you'd leave. Like Laszlo Gorak.

[Unknown]

Well, here's the thing. Huey Long was the dictator of Louisiana. He was the Democratic governor. They called him the Kingfish. He ruled it with an iron hand. And they eventually killed him, I think 1933, 34. And he said, it's the easiest thing in the world to create a fascist organization. All you have to do is call it an anti fascist organization.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Unknown]

Which is what we see the left doing. No.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. And then they then announced that they would like to have a czar in charge of Ms. And disinformation and somebody.

[Unknown]

To vet John Kerry said he was going to be the disinformation czar. That's great.

[Adam Carolla]

That's great. And ironic, isn't it, considering what they've said, been wrong about for the last several years.

[Unknown]

Well, sure. And a lot of what they've been saying about a lot of things, for example, immigration is. We need a new law.

[Adam Carolla]

We.

[Unknown]

We need a new law. And Trump said, no, you just need a new president. We have a law against disinformation. It's called the First Amendment, which means there can be as much disinformation as you want. You choose.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. I find it ironic that they're trying to sell this. It's a strange thing to try to sell. And then it's also sort of telling. Like when it came to Covid, there are governors that leapt into action to shut down everything they could possibly Shut down for as long as they could and punish people to the greatest extent they could. And I thought, that's a bad instinct in a governor or anybody's power.

[Unknown]

Think of how much power it gave them. Right. They set the template for the government can do whatever it wants. First time in the world the government told you what you have to stick in your body, for God's sake.

[Adam Carolla]

Right? Yeah. So what do you think is going to come out? Like I used to tell. I told Dr. Drew five years ago, I go, look, it's just going to get worse every day. The more you find out about Fauci, the worse it's going to get. There's no good news. It's all just going to be bad. The more you find out about Biden, Hunter Biden, the Syndicate, laptop money, Ukraine, Russia. It's just going to everybody. You're never gonna get a piece of information that makes you think. It turns out Joe never knew about Hunter Biden and what his business dealings or Fauci was unaware of. The lab and the gain of function. It only goes one direction. If you kind of know and it just sort of gets worse as it goes. And whatever your suspicions are, like, we were like, geez, I think the government was colluding with big tech and trying to get people canceled. And it's always much worse. First off, they always tell you, you're cr. None of it's ever happening.

[Unknown]

Well, that's what Trump said. He said, as much as I knew it was the swamp. It was vastly worse than I thought. That's what he said. And it was vastly worse than any of us thought. And now they're going to start subpoenaing these people. And I think they're going to say that nobody was in charge of the auto panel. Whoever it was, it wasn't Joe. And they're going to start bringing them up in front of Congress. And one of the senators said, they said, when did you know? What did you know? When do you know it? He said, we're moving forward. Well, that's not what you say after a crime. The swine killed these two lovely little young couple, this Jewish couple in New York, right? You don't say, well, we're moving forward. You say, no, we're going to try the motherfucker and let's find out where he came from.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, it's what you would say if you were defending the swine. And that's what they're doing. They're now all defending themselves by saying, you know, the version of that. The COVID version of that is we didn't know anything at the time. You know, they're always doing the we didn't know anything. Which I always reply, then why'd you shut the Beaches? I mean, if you didn't know anything, why'd you do all this? Yeah, yeah. So they're lying. But yes, of course they wanna. It's basically your wife catches you cheating and you go, so I'm not looking in the rear view, honey, I'm moving forward. And I suggest you move forward too.

[Unknown]

Well, there's a great. One of Lenny's great jokes is about that. You got time for a joke? Sure. So Lenny says, guy's Lenny Bruce. Lenny Bruce. His wife dies. They've been married many, happily, happily married many years. Years go by. Now he's in Japan, he picks up a hooker, he takes her to the hotel room. He's stopping the hooker and. And he calls her by the pet name that he used to call his wife. Now his long dead wife jumps up from behind the headboard and says, what you called her? Blah, blah, blah. You called that hooker that pet name that you always called me. And he says, I knew you were there. So that's Jake Tapper.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. Sad, weird. I also realize people don't know how to interview these people or they don't do it with enough.

[Unknown]

Well, some do. I mean, you look at Peter Doocy interviewing people in the White House.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, no, I get, there's that. But people are doing like long form sit downs with Jake Tapper and they're not really following up on the right.

[Unknown]

That's right.

[Adam Carolla]

They're not asking the right questions. And it's weird. It's also kind of his argument. I mean, their argument as far as Biden in his condition is sort of like you give someone the keys to your car and then they crash it and then they say, you shouldn't have given me the keys to the car. You know, I'm a horrible driver. Like, you know, I don't know what I'm doing. Like it's essentially them saying, saying, I'm gonna sue you for crashing your car because I'm incompetent. And Jake Tapper and the rest of the mainstream media is just basically saying out loud they didn't know what they were doing because there's no other conclusion to draw.

[Unknown]

That's right. Well, look at Joe, God bless him, I love the fact he keeps getting trotted out. And his wife, the fake Dr. Jill, they were on the View and somebody asked him. People have raised questions about your competence during your administration. Would you care to answer that? And he couldn't. And Jill stepped in and answered the question.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes.

[Unknown]

I mean, what else do you need to know?

[Adam Carolla]

I think I tweeted, and maybe you can find it. I tweeted about that and it got retweeted a lot. I said, essentially, I'll paraphrase me, because I can't remember, but it's like saying to someone, have you been drinking tonight? And they throw up on your shoes. It's like, you don't. Okay, we don't need you to respond.

[Unknown]

That's very good.

[Adam Carolla]

Yes, you have. Yeah, that's what it was like. Literally saying, some people say you weren't competent. And 30 seconds into an ambling, rambling mishmash of verbiage, your wife jumps in and finishes the statement.

[Unknown]

Yeah, well, it is what it is, right? So we got out of the habit of speaking the truth, of hearing the truth, and we got into the habit of whispering the truth. People would come up to me on the street over the four years of Biden and they'd whisper, they'd say, you know, I saw you with this conservative event, or I saw you with this Israeli event. I think what you. That's a terrible country. That's terrible what happened to the country. And it's quick getting addressed.

[Adam Carolla]

And I think you see it in the business. My experience is some of the grips and the sort of guys, sound guys, tech guys on sets would come up, look over each shoulder like a Murano and go, I agree with you.

[Unknown]

Well, of course, everybody below the line was always conservative because they were work for a living. And I did Bill Maher's show. Not the I just did it, but I did it several years ago. And he said, oh, come on, there's blah, blah, blah. We have complete freedom of speech here. I said, I just walked through the parking lot at CBS. There were 3,000 cars. Not one of them had a Trump sticker on. This was when he was running before. What would have happened had he put the Trump sticker on?

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Unknown]

Oh, humuna, humuna. Humming.

[Adam Carolla]

Right.

[Unknown]

Okay. You know, it is. It's great to say. It is what it is, right? To say mom really is an alcoholic rather than, I guess, the cat set fire to the couch.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. We have the Joe Biden clip from the View, and my tweet's out there somewhere. I don't know if you can find it.

[Unknown]

We'll get to see it.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah, we'll look at it. We're living an upside down world, but all right. Here it is. Yeah.

[Alicia Krause]

Mr. President, since you left office, there have been a number of books that have come out, deeply sourced from Democratic sources, that claim in your final year, there was a dramatic decline in your cognitive abilities in the final year of your presidency. What is your response to these allegations, and are these sources wrong?

[Unknown]

They are wrong. There's nothing to sustain that, number one. Number two, you know, think of what we were left with.

[Adam Carolla]

We were left with a circumstance where.

[Unknown]

We had an insurrection.

[Adam Carolla]

When I started insurrection.

[Unknown]

We.

[Adam Carolla]

Not sense of civil war. We had a circumstance where we were.

[Unknown]

In a position that we. Well, the pandemic, because of the incompetence of the last outfit, end up over.

[Adam Carolla]

A million people dying, many people dying.

[Unknown]

We're also in a situation where we.

[Adam Carolla]

Found ourselves unable to deal with a.

[Unknown]

Lot of just basic issues, and. Which I won't go into interest of time.

[Adam Carolla]

And so we went to work, and.

[Unknown]

We got it done.

[Adam Carolla]

And, you know, one of the things that. Well, and Alyssa, you know, one of.

[Alicia Krause]

The things I think is that the people.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Adam Carolla]

It's perfect.

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, first off, Game Seven mentioned. Yeah. The question was about his cognitive ability, not what he inherited or what he got done. It's a pretty. These things are pretty basic. It's a sort of a. Look, if you're not impaired in any way, then you go, just listen, there's tests. I'll take the test. You can feel me taking the test. Let's just take the test. It's my basic cop comes around, pulled you over on the side of the road and goes, pop the trunk. And you go, I'm not popping the trunk. But there's nothing in the trunk.

[Unknown]

That's good. Yeah, but the other thing is. Oh, I had a good thought, but it seems to have just gone away. No, no, you talk.

[Adam Carolla]

All right, I'll talk. It's a time when they're asking us to not believe our own lying eyes, which is when they. I think they got to their zenith with the cheap fake.

[Unknown]

Oh, yeah, exactly. So they couldn't even say that it's an alteration. They had to make up a word to describe it.

[Adam Carolla]

Right. And I'm watching two minutes of a guy at a Juneteenth celebration standing next to George, Floyd's brother. And a he, she in a dress. And Chaka Khan is playing on the stage. And he. Clearly, the lights are on, but no one is home. And it is exaggerated because it's in a setting where music is playing. So all the people around him are sort of on the same page. Like when you're at a concert, everyone's bobbing their head and sort of weaving a little bit and he's glassy eyed and has a 5,000 yard Vietnam vet stare. And they're explaining to me that that's a cheap fake because it's an edit. And I'm like, like yes. It wasn't the entire Chaka Khan concert, which is an hour and a half, it was three minutes of him doing this. But they're like, that's an edit. And I go, well, P. Diddy beating his girlfriend in the hall of the Marriott is an edit. The film goes 24 7. We could watch people get on and off the elevator, but they edit it out a minute. That shows him beating his girlfriend. Yes, it's edit. Well, here's the other thing, it's not a cheap fake. Does anyone on CNN say that P. Diddy tape of him beating his girlfriend is a cheap fake because it's just an edit of a longer tape?

[Unknown]

Well, they also said that him flipping burgers at McDonald's was staged. I thought that was, I mean he hasn't been working there for 15 years. But my wife, when I were talking to somebody after the first debate, it was, used to be a friend, kind of a semi acquaintance and he's a stone liberal. And I said the guy's obviously the debate. You looked at him, he's obviously senile. And the guy said he had a cold. And so we left. And my wife said, God, how could someone who's that smart say that? And I said, because he's stupid. Because that's the simple answer. You gotta be pretty frickin stupid to vote for somebody for the president who literally would not let your daughter get into the car if he was driving the Uber.

[Adam Carolla]

Yeah. And I guess at the end of the day there's a kind of a smart, that's a kind of a bottom line smart, which is you're just not able to digest the information that is coming. Yes, he was tired from travel, he was at Camp David for two weeks. He had a cold. Everyone's had a cold. You sound different, but you don't think different unless you're on tons of medication. I mean it is an interesting time to study though if you're the sort of philosophers like you who like to just sort of step back and look at things and go, wow, it's fascinating.

[Unknown]

If one can keep one's head, which I'm trying to do. And one of the ways I try to keep my head is to sit down and write about it like the essays in the book. Look, sit down and write about it. I'm looking at one thing, can I make sense of that? I'm looking at the other thing, can I make sense of that? And then at the end, can I make sense of the whole, the ganzaka shift, Can I make sense of the entire seemingly unconnected atrocities of the time in which we're living? So that's what I'm trying to do.

[Adam Carolla]

Well, let's give it a plug. It is called the disenlightment that is the book and the movie. As Henry Johnson. Henryjohnsonmovie.com you can, you can go there and support Mamet not only because he's great, but he's courageous and he's making, he's making his voice heard. Good to see you again, David.

[Unknown]

Thank you. It's good to see you too, Adam.

[Adam Carolla]

Always appreciate it.

[Dawson]

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