← Adam Carolla Show
Adam Carolla Show
Trump’s Proposal to Bring Back Alcatraz + Smokey Robinson Allegations + Comedian Gary Owen + Screenwriter George Gallo
01:57:26
Loading summary
Transcript805 lines
- [00:00]
Narrator
Craving your next action packed adventure, Audible delivers thrills of every kind on your command. Like Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir where a lone astronaut must save humanity from extinction. Narrated with stunning intensity by Ray Porter. From electrifying suspense and daring quests to spine tingling horror and romance and far off realms, unleash your adventure aside with gripping titles that'll keep you guessing. Discover exclusive Audible originals, hotly anticipated new releases and must Listen bestsellers that hook you from the first minute. Because Audible knows there's no greater thrill than the one that speaks to you. Discover what lies beyond the edge of your seat. Start your free 30 day trial at audible.com wondery us that's audible.com wonderyus find yourself looking for a new job or change in career? Monster.com is here to help. We are not only here to bring you job postings, but also AI interview prep and salary tools, expert career advice and top notch resume services. We've got everything you need to land your perfect job fit. Discover the magic of finding the ideal job with monster.com. your future starts now. Visit monster.com today. Your next job opportunity is just a click away.
- [01:16]
Adam Carolla
Well, in this episode, very funny comedian Gary Owen joins us. George Gallo, writer, director, wrote Midnight Run, Bad Boys, tons of other stuff. He's gonna join us as well. We'll do the news, we'll do all that right after this. Hey, it's Adam Carolla from the Adam Carolla Show. Bet Online is the world's most trusted betting platform and your number one source for all your sports betting action. Baseball season is in full swing now and we're into NBA, got the playoffs, got NHL playoffs. Betonline has more ways to stay in on the action with the latest odds, news and scores. Bet Online even as live in game betting while the games are being played so it's never too late to get in on the action. With the largest selection of odds on everything from NLB, NBA, NHL and UFC, BETOnline remains the best online source for all your sports wagering info. And don't forget golf and professional boxing too. In between games, head on over to betonline Casino with all the top Vegas style games including poker and live casino betonline. The game starts here.
- [02:48]
George Gallo
From Corolla One Studios in Glendale, California, this is the Adam Carolla Show. Adam's guest today writer director George Gallo and comedian Gary Owen. Plus the news and trending topics with Jason Mayhem Miller. And now ironically he likes to yell about people who virtue signal about elevating voices.
- [03:16]
Adam Carolla
Adam Carolla yeah, get it on Got to get on A choice been given, man to get it on. George Gallo, writer, director in studio. Some of the movies I've loved that he's written over the years. Midnight Run, probably my favorite, with De Niro and Charles Grodin. Bad Boys and Trapped in Paradise. Underrated comedy, so many others. And right now has the number one movie on Paramount, plus the Comeback Trail, and that stars De Niro, Tommy Lee Jones, Morgan Freeman, Zach Braff. Nice job.
- [03:55]
Gary Owen
Thank you.
- [03:57]
Adam Carolla
Tommy Lee Jones in no country for Old Men. Does it get any better than that?
- [04:02]
Gary Owen
No, no, absolutely not. In fact, he does that monologue at the end of no country for Old Men, which kind of inspired me to write a monologue for him at the end of this movie.
- [04:13]
Adam Carolla
Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Where he had a dream.
- [04:16]
Gary Owen
Yeah. And he talks about how it was about his dad, and his dad rode past him with a lantern. And it was.
- [04:23]
Adam Carolla
You know, you get so caught up in other performances in that movie that you forget about Tommy Lee, who was so quietly brilliant in that.
- [04:34]
Gary Owen
Yeah, he is. He's like the anchor of the movie, too. He's. In many ways, it's about a guy whose time is passing.
- [04:41]
Adam Carolla
You know, Tommy Lee Jones. I have a theory, and actually, other people have this theory, but De Niro, I always thought of as just a genius. And I never knew anything about him because he never really did interviews or anything else. And I was, like, in the same spot with him and Bruce Springsteen. People just thought they were de facto geniuses because they were so good at what they did. And that's it. We never saw him talk about anything. And then I see De Niro pop up on the View, and then I go, oh, he sure sounds like a dope now, which doesn't mean he's not a brilliant actor, but I do think there was a mystique in Hollywood where we just didn't know what these people were up to off of the screen. And it made the product better because of the sort of mystery of it all.
- [05:29]
Gary Owen
Yeah. I would say that because I think the more you know about a person, it's like, you know, if you're an actor or filmmaker, I think the less you know about them, the more interesting they become. You know, it's sort of like if you were to go see David Copperfield and then they showed you how they did, the trick wouldn't be as exciting, you know?
- [05:48]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. That trick where he gets all the chicks on the island. Yeah. Or you talk about Vegas.
- [05:52]
Gary Owen
I'm not familiar with.
- [05:54]
Adam Carolla
Oh, that's his greatest trick. His greatest illusion. Yeah, no, look, I'm with you. If you say if a guy comes out is gay and he's gonna be the grand marshal, the gay pride parade, and then he's now then cast in a romantic comedy against Sandra Bullock or something where love is found again, it is a little thing where you go, well, yeah, but that guy's gay, you know, and there's nothing wrong with being gay. But when you're watching the movie, it's supposed to be everything suspended. You know what I mean? Just all we're doing is watching this.
- [06:28]
Gary Owen
Hopefully that's what you do if you're doing it properly.
- [06:30]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, well, if you're doing it properly, you will. But if you saw the View that morning and you saw the same person throwing a tantrum on the View, and now you're seeing them in the theater that night playing this role, there's a part of you that knows they were on the View earlier that day.
- [06:50]
Gary Owen
Yeah. Well, the good news, he throws quite a few tantrums in this movie, so.
- [06:54]
Adam Carolla
Oh, De Niro.
- [06:55]
Gary Owen
Yeah, yeah, he's terrific in this movie.
- [06:58]
Adam Carolla
He's a great actor.
- [06:59]
Gary Owen
He has a. He has a monologue at the end where he goes on for a page and a half just yelling at Tommy.
- [07:05]
Adam Carolla
Lee Jones and it. And you wrote the monologue, obviously.
- [07:09]
Gary Owen
I wrote that monologue. I co authored the screenplay. But that monologue I wrote because I know Bob very, very well.
- [07:15]
Adam Carolla
Well, I mean, Midnight Run was probably his first piece of comedy. It was because he never. I mean, he did the King of. What the hell?
- [07:30]
Gary Owen
King of Comedy.
- [07:30]
Adam Carolla
The King of Comedy. That before Midnight Run.
- [07:34]
Gary Owen
No, no, no. Midnight Run was the first.
- [07:35]
Adam Carolla
Midnight Run was the first. I mean, it was right in. Around the same time.
- [07:38]
Gary Owen
Right, yeah. Midnight run was 1988, I think king of comedy was like around 1990. I'm guessing 91 possibly, but so midnight.
- [07:47]
Adam Carolla
Run, by the way, 95 with the critics on Rotten Tomatoes, which is unthinkable for comedy. Action Y comedy. And you can do it if you got the right subject matter, whatever. But not this. Just a bunch of white guys punching each other, making jokes. It's not really 95%, so this is amazing. But he was known for real heavy roles and everyone knew him from all the heavy roles. Raging Bull and Taxi Driver and all that stuff. And then he did comedy. But he did it in a very. It was almost Airplane esque in that he was always playing it straight.
- [08:28]
Gary Owen
Yes, we talked about that quite a bit. I mean, even in Comeback Trill. I mean, the movie's Utterly ridiculous. But I just told everybody, keep it straight. You know, we're just in a world of absurdity, but you guys just keep playing it straight, you know, And I always find that to be a lot funnier. Oh, and people mugging it up and.
- [08:51]
Adam Carolla
No, no, it's, it's, it's the, it's really the secret sauce of all the, I mean, to an extreme of the Zucker Abrams stuff where they intentionally got straight heavy from that era.
- [09:05]
Gary Owen
Oh, he was Nielsen. And Robert Stack.
- [09:07]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I mean, just, just seeing Robert Stack, you know, pull off his sunglasses, have a smaller set underneath with a very serious look on his face. Yeah, yeah. Midnight Run was almost, I would almost call it a perfect movie. It had good comedy, good action, good intrigue, and just kept going. And we were talking off the air to one of my friends here and he said, Charles Grodin is my absolute all time sort of favorite underrated actors. And I said he had a short lived late show on CNN and he interviewed me once. And he was a total douchebag.
- [09:49]
Gary Owen
Was he?
- [09:50]
Adam Carolla
But I think he was doing his character.
- [09:53]
Gary Owen
If I could tell you a quick story about that. Yes, I spent a lot of time with him because I was on the.
- [10:00]
Adam Carolla
Set every day and he passed, I don't know, a couple years ago or something.
- [10:04]
Gary Owen
But he would say things to me that were so douchebaggy, like once because Bob and I got very close. We were going out to the dinner like every night. And then I kind of felt bad about Chuck and I said, well, I called Chuck up, I said, hey, Chuck, you want to go out to dinner tonight? He went with you, right? No, you know, and he was just like. And I'm like, what a douchebag that he said. But then he laughed and then he was like, yeah.
- [10:30]
Adam Carolla
So I think it was a bit of a facade and I think when CNN gave him this interview show, someone had to tell him, you can't do your shtick as a douchebag while you're interviewing people. That's not gonna come. I mean, Letterman did it a little bit, you know, but you have to kind of come across differently.
- [10:52]
Gary Owen
Yeah, I never saw the show. I can't imagine him not doing it, you know, him not being that guy.
- [10:57]
Adam Carolla
I was on the losing end of it.
- [10:59]
Gary Owen
Oh, God, I'm sorry to hear that.
- [11:02]
Adam Carolla
I didn't mind that much. Like, I was kind of amused by it. You know, for me, the notion that, you know, I saw Midnight Run in the movie theater, you know, when I was 24, and the fact that I, you know, 20 years later, I was sitting across from that guy and he was interviewing me. Or, you know, 15 years later, whatever. It was all kind of gravy to me. I sort of. I rolled with it. I didn't mind it. But I did think to myself, other people might mind this. Like, I'm pretty flexible, but I don't know if other people are gonna, like.
- [11:38]
Gary Owen
Well, it's like disarming when it happens, you know, Even though I knew him, the fact that he would do stuff like that to me.
- [11:45]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Charles. He died, by the way, right about now, 21. So it's been. Right about four years.
- [11:53]
Gary Owen
Oh, geez.
- [11:54]
Adam Carolla
I know. That's what you did. Do that all the time. Like. Oh, I'd been de for 10 minutes. No, no, four years. Grodin hosted the news variety show called the Charles Grodin show from 95 to 98. Yeah, I probably would have hit it right around 97, 98. And it was CNBC and MSNBC back in the day, back before, like, all their politics. I just got Grodin, who is. I didn't know that much about. Because I never really saw him on the View or anything.
- [12:28]
Gary Owen
I didn't know that much about him either. I know we lived in Connecticut. That was about it.
- [12:31]
Adam Carolla
How did you get De Niro and Grodin for that, for that movie?
- [12:36]
Gary Owen
Well, I didn't. It was. Marty Breast directed that movie. And Marty was coming off of Beverly Hills Cop, and he was like the hottest comedy director in the world. And, you know, I wrote the script, and it was. It was not a spec script. I wrote about it. Two thirds of a script. I mean, do you know. Do you know this story? I'll make it really, really fast. I had about two thirds of a script in my car that I was working. I was working on, and I had. I ran across Marty Bress. I knew Marty a little bit. And he goes, what are you working on? And I said, I got this script. This is pre computers, you know. I said, this is like IBM Selectrics, right? And I said, I got this script. And he goes, well, let me read it. I said, it's not finished. It's in the car. And he goes, let me read it. So he read it and then he came out and said, how does it end? I says, he lets him go. I don't know the third act. I haven't figured it out yet. And I developed the script with him, and then I wrote a third act. And then he said, how about De Niro? And I was like, wow. I don't know. He's never done a comedy, but that's what happened. And then Grodin, Everybody in town then came in to read.
- [13:39]
Adam Carolla
Once you had the director, once you had De Niro.
- [13:41]
Gary Owen
Yeah. Then everybody in town came in. The second Charles Grodin came in, everyone knew. You could feel it. He just sat next to Bob and he just started breaking his balls groat. And he wouldn't stop. And Bob was in hysterics. And that was pretty much how it happened.
- [13:57]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I guess that was his whole world. Like, was ball busted? And I don't know if he was a sweet dad and a kind neighbor. I don't know anything about the guy. I just know he busted my chest.
- [14:08]
Gary Owen
Yeah. He would just do it. Like, he sat next to Bob. I remember he said something like, is that your normal haircut? I mean, like, that's how he says hello.
- [14:15]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [14:16]
Gary Owen
So right away, you're off put, you know.
- [14:19]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [14:19]
Gary Owen
Is that the haircut you're gonna have in the movie? You know, just. He just would do stuff like that, you know.
- [14:26]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. He'd be an interesting subject for a documentary. I'd be curious to, like, know more about.
- [14:32]
Gary Owen
I know very, very little.
- [14:34]
Adam Carolla
Nobody seems to know much, but. So all these years later, now you Bob again. Tommy Lee, Morgan Freeman, Zach Braff, Emile Hirsch.
- [14:45]
Gary Owen
Cheryl Lee, Ralph, who's wonderful.
- [14:48]
Adam Carolla
The one guy, when you get the one guy that begats the other good, gets right. I mean, you get De Niro signed on, then it's easier to get Morgan Freeman.
- [14:58]
Gary Owen
Yeah. The cast came together in about a week. The interesting thing about the script was we had it for about 10 years. We couldn't give it away. Everyone who read it said, oh, it's hysterical. But no one's ever gonna make this movie because it's a movie about making a movie.
- [15:13]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [15:13]
Gary Owen
And the main character is. There's nothing but prat falls against him. It's like De Niro eventually is essentially. He said what he read. He goes, I'm playing Wile E. Coyote. That's exactly who you're playing. And one other thing about Bob that's amazing, you know, he's such a serious actor. He knows, like, every Wile E. Coyote episode because, like, if you make a reference, Nero would say, is that the one with the. With the anvil and. Yeah, he knew them with the ball bearings and the wire. He knew all of them.
- [15:44]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. I guess he's of a generation where pretty much that was about all we had.
- [15:50]
Gary Owen
Yeah, that's what we watched growing Up.
- [15:52]
Adam Carolla
What do you like in terms of your comedies or your movies? Who are some of your favorite. What are some of your favorite pieces? Like, I know I'm looking here and.
- [16:03]
Gary Owen
It says movies that I like.
- [16:06]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. He says received several awards. The Comeback, by the way, the Stanley Kramer Mad Mad, Mad World Award. Like Mad, Mad Mad World was a great, funny comedy. I mean, I don't know. I don't know if you'd call it a quality comedy, but it was packed with everyone. It never stopped. It had lots of great scenes.
- [16:25]
Gary Owen
I love that movie. I mean, movies that make me laugh. I mean, I tend to like some of the older movies. I think they were smarter. Like, remember the original In Laws with Peter Falk and Alan Arkin? I mean, that's one of my favorites. That dinner scene where they're sitting around the table. He's talking about tsetse flies the size of eagles carrying brown babies after their certain death. I mean, that Andy Bergman wrote that script. I mean, that's one of my favorite. Blazing Saddles, certainly. You know, the out of Towners. Remember that with Jack Lemmon and Sandy.
- [16:55]
Adam Carolla
Sure.
- [16:57]
Gary Owen
I mean, that's the stuff that I really love. I love. And even those Preston Sturges movies. I mean, I love the rapid fire dialogue. That's the stuff I really, really like.
- [17:05]
Adam Carolla
I wonder if Woody Allen. I wonder. Woody Allen being sort of half Me Too'd screwed up his catalog or something because I, you know, I was. When I was young, I felt like it was your duty to go back and watch Woody Allen movies that may have came along before that. You needed to see like, Love and Death in movies like that and Take.
- [17:32]
Gary Owen
The Money and Run, which is. Remember, he's playing the. The cello in the parade. He had to keep the chair.
- [17:37]
Adam Carolla
He played Take the Money and Run. He played the cello in a marching band.
- [17:42]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yes.
- [17:43]
Adam Carolla
So he had to keep running ahead, setting up, setting up the music stand, setting up. And then the band would pass him again. He'd have to run behind.
- [17:50]
Gary Owen
We cut a big hole in the wind.
- [17:51]
Adam Carolla
The glass.
- [17:52]
Gary Owen
Yeah. And then he runs off with the glass.
- [17:54]
Adam Carolla
You can't. He, He. He seemed looking through the window of a jewelry store and he's looking at all the shiny diamonds in the window. And then he carefully gets the glass cutter out and cuts a circle and pops it out as if he's gonna reach in and grab it all. And then runs with the glass. He stole the circle of glass?
- [18:16]
Gary Owen
Yeah. Anybody that wants to make movies has to watch. Has to go back to the. Well, you have to See where it all started. I mean, I go back. You'd go back to Buster Keaton and Charlie Chaplin. If you're gonna talk about comedies, you gotta see where it all started.
- [18:28]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [18:28]
Gary Owen
The Little Rascals.
- [18:30]
Adam Carolla
Little. Also, people forget that. Dawson will put you on the spot. We'll just play 10 seconds of it. But people think soul bossa nova, I think from Quincy Jones. They think that's from Austin Powers, but it's from Take the Money and Run.
- [18:54]
Gary Owen
Right.
- [18:55]
Adam Carolla
He put it in that movie during the whole montage. Prison escape scene. Yes, yes.
- [19:02]
Gary Owen
When they're running around with the chains.
- [19:04]
Adam Carolla
He has three guys on each side all riding bicycles on the chain gang. And he's in the middle trying to run. Right. This song was from that movie.
- [19:14]
Gary Owen
Yeah. And they end up in that house.
- [19:16]
Adam Carolla
Stole it later.
- [19:17]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [19:17]
Gary Owen
They end up in that house with that woman. And there's like, what, like three black guys and they're all. And he says they're all cousins.
- [19:23]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Remember?
- [19:24]
Gary Owen
They're all clearly dragging chains around. It's hysterical, that movie.
- [19:28]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I agree. I think people need to see Take the Money Run, but I think Love and Death is fun and Death is.
- [19:37]
Gary Owen
Probably that Annie Hall. I think that. That little run in there, probably my favorites.
- [19:42]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And can't go wrong with Crimes and Misdemeanors because that could be one of the best. But now we're getting out of the comedy and we're just getting into life.
- [19:53]
Gary Owen
Yeah. Crimes and Misdemeanors. That's Angelica Houston. Or she just kept calling Martin Landau. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna come over there and I'm gonna tell your wife that we're. We're having an affair. And Judah was his name, right? Judah. Judah, yeah.
- [20:08]
Adam Carolla
Judah was the optometrist. That movies, like, I, you know, I would call that movie an important movie. Like, you should see that movie because it's. It's important that you see that movie. Yeah.
- [20:18]
Gary Owen
And there's some very funny things in that movie. That's a very dark film.
- [20:22]
Adam Carolla
All the stuff with Alan Aldo's great.
- [20:27]
Gary Owen
Yes. The thing with it was it like at the very end he did a documentary and he showed it to him and it was like a talking. Like, well, started talking or something.
- [20:36]
Adam Carolla
Alan Aldit plays a world class Hollywood producer ass wipe in that movie. Like, he does a great job of it. Alan Alden, he's brilliant. Yes. You usually see him as kind of aw, shucksy or whatever, but not in this movie.
- [20:52]
Gary Owen
He's thinking of women.
- [20:53]
Adam Carolla
Remember, he's a Full blown douchebag.
- [20:56]
Gary Owen
Yeah.
- [20:56]
Adam Carolla
All big Hollywood douchebag. And he's great.
- [20:59]
Gary Owen
He's wonderful in it.
- [21:01]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Has anybody ever worked with Alan Ola?
- [21:03]
Gary Owen
No, I had lunch with him once. We talked about doing a project once, and no, it never came to fruition.
- [21:08]
Adam Carolla
I was, like, talking to someone the other day. No, I was talking to someone today about, like, pitching stuff. What about this show? What about that show? I go, you know, how many meetings I've had about how many projects and how many discussions and how many pitch sessions and how. I mean, at the end of the day, you know, people go, well, you get $100,000 for a script, or you get $50,000 for half a day's work or something like that. Yeah. But if you added up all of the pitch and the drive across towns and the wait and the lobbies and do you valet the parking where nothing came of anything ever, you would end up making about minimum wage.
- [21:48]
Gary Owen
Yeah, I mean, you know, look, I. I've had a good career, you know, but. Yeah, I mean, I think I've written 100 screenplays and I've had 20 movies get made, which is still pretty good, but there's an 80 terrific scripts that are sitting around collecting dust. I worked just as hard on those.
- [22:05]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [22:05]
Gary Owen
You know, but like, I'm not a whiner. I'm very, very blessed and I know it.
- [22:11]
Adam Carolla
Well, there's two ways, I think there's like two heads on it. One is you make a living in this industry, so you're way ahead of the game because it's almost impossible to make a living in the entertainment. You know, sometimes people, sometimes I'll talk to other comedians, they'll hang their head a little like, well, I'm working cruise ships. And I'm like, you're working?
- [22:32]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, right.
- [22:33]
Adam Carolla
You're working, you're on your feet, you're getting paid, you're telling jokes. No shame in working. You beat all the odds. You're not a roofer.
- [22:41]
Gary Owen
Upside, it's very funny.
- [22:43]
Adam Carolla
I know. And because they feel embarrassed that they're telling another comedian they're working a cruise ship. But I'm like, you're getting paid, you're working and you get a buffet. But then there's also the side of it where you know a good idea. When you have a good idea, you know a good script and it's not getting made, and a good premise, a good TV show idea, and it's not getting done. And then it becomes frustrating because you go, I'm grateful, but I'm pissed because I do know this is a good premise.
- [23:19]
Gary Owen
Yeah, I've had that many times. In fact, I mean, I've had ideas. My wife had a genius idea years ago, and we.
- [23:28]
Adam Carolla
Is your wife in the next room?
- [23:29]
Gary Owen
Yeah. Julie.
- [23:30]
Adam Carolla
Is she, like, Miss Alabama or something? Where'd you find her? We. She's so tall and like. She looks like she was Miss Something.
- [23:39]
Gary Owen
Yeah, she was. I don't know. Where is she? She's.
- [23:44]
Adam Carolla
She was Miss Something, right?
- [23:45]
Gary Owen
She was Miss Miss America.
- [23:47]
Adam Carolla
Oh, Miss America.
- [23:48]
Gary Owen
Yes.
- [23:49]
Adam Carolla
Well, Alabama's in America, so that's even better. I know a beauty queen when I see one.
- [23:55]
Gary Owen
Yes, she is. Absolutely that.
- [23:57]
Adam Carolla
She was Miss America. No.
- [23:59]
Gary Owen
Oh, no, I. We met. We met. We met.
- [24:03]
Adam Carolla
Not Miss America. No, she should have been.
- [24:05]
Gary Owen
She should have been. We were. I was. She was 19 when I met her. I was like, 25 or 26. She was a waitress. I was a broke.
- [24:13]
Adam Carolla
She wasn't an actress or model or anything.
- [24:15]
Gary Owen
Yeah, she did modeling and she. She's. She acts. She's in every movie I do. But she said the greatest line of all time. She said, julie, if I can quote you, she says, I'm just not mentally ill enough to be hugely successful, I.
- [24:29]
Adam Carolla
Think, for women, especially in this town. Let's go. Yeah.
- [24:33]
Gary Owen
And thankfully, I'm doing great. And she produced Comeback Trail. Oh, yeah. She's in it at the end, too. She's the KTLA roving entertainment reporter.
- [24:44]
Adam Carolla
But ask her if she owns a tiara, because I'm just.
- [24:51]
Gary Owen
Where is she? I don't even. I hear her laughing.
- [24:54]
Adam Carolla
I think she owns a tiara. She may have one somewhere.
- [24:59]
Gary Owen
Julie, do you want to come out?
- [25:01]
George Gallo
No, she does not own a tiara.
- [25:02]
Adam Carolla
Never been. Listen.
- [25:04]
Gary Owen
Hey, honey, I'll get you a tiara later.
- [25:07]
Adam Carolla
She's so beautiful that even if she didn't sign up for one of these beauty competitions, someone else would sign her up. Don't you think?
- [25:17]
Gary Owen
Yeah, she's fantastic. I mean, We've been together 40 years.
- [25:21]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Wow.
- [25:22]
Gary Owen
Yeah.
- [25:22]
Adam Carolla
Wow.
- [25:23]
Gary Owen
She was a kid when I met her. I was a kid, too.
- [25:25]
Adam Carolla
How old were you when you sold Midnight Run?
- [25:28]
Gary Owen
I sold Midnight Run. I was probably around 29 years old. I wrote it. Wise Guys was the first one. Do you remember?
- [25:35]
Adam Carolla
All right.
- [25:36]
Gary Owen
Yeah, I wrote that when I was about 25, 26.
- [25:38]
Adam Carolla
I was in Wise Guys.
- [25:39]
Gary Owen
Danny DeVito, Joe Piscopo.
- [25:41]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Oh, yeah.
- [25:42]
Gary Owen
Harvey Keitel. That's when they get contracted to kill each other. The two best friends. Yeah. That was the first one I wrote that got made. Then I wrote Actually, I wrote Bad Boys first, but Paramount picked that up. But then it sat there forever. And then I wrote Midnight Run, and then, boom, everything changed for me.
- [26:00]
Adam Carolla
How's Harvey Keitel?
- [26:02]
Gary Owen
I saw Harvey about a year ago. He was fine. He's getting up there.
- [26:06]
Adam Carolla
Is he as intense as I'd like to think he is in person?
- [26:10]
Gary Owen
Well, no, he's in his 80s. No, he wasn't that intense. We laughed a lot. Now he's a sweet guy. Bob's a sweet guy. He's an intensive person, you know?
- [26:21]
Adam Carolla
He was. And Harvey Keitel was not that intense back in the day.
- [26:27]
Gary Owen
Oh, I didn't. I didn't know him back in the day. I mean, I met him on the script. Yeah. I met him on the set of Wise Guys, and then I ran into him, and we. We talked quite a bit. Then I ran into him a year later. He goes, I don't know you. I said, what are you talking. I wrote the movie you were in. And then he went, oh, Georgie. Sorry. Yeah.
- [26:43]
Adam Carolla
Do they want you on the set or not when you write something? Because.
- [26:52]
Gary Owen
That'S an interesting midnight run. I was there every day. Marty wanted me there and Bob wanted me there, because Bob kept saying, I want to throw me lines. Come up with.
- [27:00]
Adam Carolla
Marty who?
- [27:01]
Gary Owen
Marty Breast, the director.
- [27:02]
Adam Carolla
All right.
- [27:03]
Gary Owen
Yeah, I. Yeah, we were all buddies, and they knew I wasn't going to step over the line and be an asshole. You know what I mean? So I was, you know, I was just happy to be there and watch this wonderful thing happen. And I did come up with a lot of stuff, just watching the scenes. Bob said, give me something. Give me some. Or Charles would say, give me a joke, you know, And I. I could. I threw things out a lot.
- [27:25]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. I've heard a lot of directors who go, like, I don't want the guy on the set, you know, like, leaning over my shoulder. I've made a few movies, written a few movies, and, like, I needed to be there to get the joke right. The director's fine, but they didn't know. They didn't have the joke worked out like the person who wrote the joke. And you needed.
- [27:47]
Gary Owen
Because that's where it comes from.
- [27:48]
Adam Carolla
That's where it comes from. Yeah. So I would think that a director, I mean, especially if you're doing comedy, would want that person near them.
- [27:57]
Gary Owen
I would say a secure director. If you're an insecure mess, then you don't want any input, you know? And you're not listening to the cameraman either. You're not the editor. You don't listen to anybody. You're just that type of personality. I've always listened to everyone around me. Because why not? It's free. It's free advice.
- [28:17]
Adam Carolla
No, I don't think it's that much different than you holding up two shirts and, you know, asking your wife which one you should wear.
- [28:24]
Gary Owen
Right.
- [28:25]
Adam Carolla
Well, she's got an opinion.
- [28:26]
Gary Owen
She would say neither.
- [28:29]
Adam Carolla
Well, the difference is she's not. You know, in this case, you're cert. You're a shirt expert. But you still should do that. You know what I mean?
- [28:39]
Gary Owen
Yeah.
- [28:40]
Adam Carolla
And. Or sometimes, just to talk it through. Sometimes people go, I wasn't feeling that one. And I go, well, here's what I was thinking. And I go, oh, okay. Like when you talk it through, then you start finding different beats in it.
- [28:54]
Gary Owen
Yeah, absolutely. We had that a lot on comeback trail because, look, I have Robert De Niro, Tommy Lee Jones and Morgan Freeman. I got three great minds. Between them is like, what, 200 years of acting experience. Of course I'm going to say, what do you guys think? You know, blah, blah, blah. Because why not listen to them? And they had great ideas, you know, because Morgan would say, hey, you know what? I'm going to cross on this line because I don't want to listen to his bullshit. So why don't I. I'll sit facing camera. That I mean, and then the scenes were just magic to me.
- [29:27]
Adam Carolla
Well, you know, you're right. Between the two, between the three of them, there's 200 years of acting experience with some of the greatest directors and writers in the world. So you'd be a complete. And if anyone ever offered a workshop with those three in it, the tickets would be $17,000 for an hour. So why wouldn't you get all the input you could? Yeah, smart, but secure.
- [29:50]
Gary Owen
Yeah, well, I do feel like I know what I'm doing, but I'm not infallible, you know, so, I mean, I've. So like I said, it was, you know, there they were, like, why not listen to their input?
- [30:04]
Adam Carolla
No, but when you say, like, I agree you should feel like you know what you're doing, but not infallible so that you can run jokes or things or scenarios by. I mean, and you want it to.
- [30:18]
Gary Owen
Feel alive, you don't want it to feel stilted. And I don't shoot lots of tapes. So I told everybody, you know, I said, look, I like to just keep it fresh because you start shooting take after take, it just. It loses it lose its a lot. Loses a lot of Energy, I could say a quick Morgan Freeman story.
- [30:34]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [30:34]
Gary Owen
The first time I work with Morgan was on another movie. And, you know, like, I don't care what director, I don't care who they are. I Woke up at 4 o' clock in the morning. I'm like, what. What the am I doing? I'm going to direct Morgan Freeman. You know, I don't really know him. I don't know what he's going to. What if he turns into a monster, you know? So he walks on the set, he goes, where do you want me to stand, boss? I went over there by the window and told him, I said, if you could turn your head on this line. And he went, okay. I said, all right, you want to rehearse? He goes, nope. Rehearsal. Let's go. So I went, okay. So we just rolled it and shot it. It's Morgan Freeman and it's flawless. And then he turns. I say, cut. He turns around and looks at me. He goes, any notes? I said, no, actually, that was perfect. And then he came over and he put his hand on my shoulder and he said, you and me are gonna get along just fine. And after that, we were like best buddies, you know.
- [31:31]
Adam Carolla
Well, that story deserves a plug. The Comeback Trail, it's out now. It's been out, but now it jumped to the top of the charts. Paramount plus. What do you. What else you got in the irons you got in the fire?
- [31:46]
Gary Owen
I got a couple things. I got a horror movie I wrote. I never did a horror movie, but I always wanted to do one. But this is like a really, like a Roman Polanski, really smart horror movie. Then I've got a comedy called the Accidental Gangster. And then I wrote a movie with Nick Valalonga, who wrote Green Book about Carlo Gambino. So that's looks like that's happening. Mark Forrester just signed on, the director and a lot of stuff.
- [32:11]
Adam Carolla
Any.
- [32:11]
Gary Owen
None of it's ever gonna happen. These are my evil plans.
- [32:16]
Adam Carolla
But no, I listen, I've been around for doing the same thing. It's the same thing. But you know what? You just throw your speeding train and you just throw track. Just throw track out ahead. Don't slow the train down. Just keep throwing track out.
- [32:32]
Gary Owen
That's like Davey and Goliath. Remember the train would move and the track, which. No, that was Gumby. The train would move and the track would just keep appearing.
- [32:39]
Adam Carolla
Yes, yes, and it's pony pal Pokey, too, but all claymation, so I can see. Yes. You remember Davey and Goliath?
- [32:47]
Gary Owen
Oh, yeah.
- [32:53]
Adam Carolla
Dun, dun, dun.
- [32:54]
Gary Owen
I cried watching one of those episodes. I cried, remember? Doesn't anybody love us? God loves us. Then why don't people remember? The dog licked his face and the kid was crying.
- [33:06]
Adam Carolla
I don't know, Dave.
- [33:07]
Dawson
I don't know.
- [33:08]
Adam Carolla
Everyone would say, start with the same thing where he'd go. I bet we'd get to church faster if we took dad's car. I don't know, Davey. The dog had much more smarts than the kid. Yeah, they were teaching these, they teach you these little parables, you know? I remember one, by the way. This is all we had was this bad claymation, you know, there's one where a kid, like, went to go cross the street and like a car had to slam the brakes on and, and the car was honking the horn and the kid didn't even look up, you know, he just got to the other side and Davey was all, had his panties like, why aren't you listening to anybody? You could have got killed out there. You gotta watch where you're going. You don't listen, you know? And then the guy turned out to be deaf and then he felt bad. And I don't know what the lesson was, but that was the whole show.
- [34:03]
Gary Owen
Yeah, yeah. No, I, I, well, we grew up watching a lot of stories with good moral sense.
- [34:10]
Adam Carolla
Yes. There was a lot of golden rule stuff going on.
- [34:15]
Gary Owen
God was always in the room.
- [34:16]
Adam Carolla
Yes.
- [34:17]
Gary Owen
A lot of those older films. Now he's gone. So he's gone off somewhere.
- [34:20]
Adam Carolla
He is gone. He's, he's left the building.
- [34:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [34:25]
Adam Carolla
All right. George Gallup.
- [34:27]
Gary Owen
I had a blast.
- [34:28]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Come back anytime.
- [34:29]
Gary Owen
Thank you so much.
- [34:30]
Adam Carolla
Thank you. We'll take a quick break and then we'll come back with Gary Owen, comedian, right after this. Homes.com Some might say homes.com is the best home shopping site. It may be homes.com's super comprehensive and transparent agent directory. Or Maybe it's that homes.com is the only site that always directly connects you with the listing agent who knows the home the best. Perhaps, just Perhaps, it's because homes.com has the most in depth neighborhood content of any home shopping site that's extensively researched to highlight the personality of each neighborhood. Homes.com goes above and beyond to bring home shoppers like you the in depth info they need to find the right home. Homes.com we've done your homework. O'Reilly Auto Parts. Love me some O'Reilly man. They're in the business of keeping your car on the road. O'Reilly Auto Parts offers friendly helpful service and and the parts knowledge you need for all your maintenance and repairs. Always Love me some O'Reilly. Always been a big fan. Love the smell of the inside of an O'Reilly Auto Parts. Smells like vulcanized rubber and knowledge and wisdom. So whether you're a car aficionado or an auto novice, you'll find the employees at O'Reilly Auto Parts are knowledgeable, helpful and best of all, they are friendly. So you do what I do and I've always done. Stop by O'Reilly Auto Parts today or visit us at O'ReillyAuto.com Adam that's O'ReillyAuto.com Adam Rough Greens. Oh man. Phil loves himself some rough greens stuff tastes good and is good for the dog. Sometimes in life you want to get to the truth. Gotta take a look at the numbers. Naturopathic doctor Dennis Black, the creator of ruffgreens who I've spoken to, he's very passionate about his product. Well, he tells us, unfortunately 50% of all dogs over 10 years of age are going to die of cancer and it's widely attributed to your dog's diet. But there is good news. We can clean that up with rough greens. With thousands of testimonials and 5 star reviews every month, Rough Greens is now the number one all natural dog supplement in America. You don't have to change your dog's food to improve your dog's health. You just add a scoop of rough greens to their existing food, super easy and convenient and you'll see the difference real fast. Am I right? Dawson, Fetch a free Jumpstart trial bag.
- [37:42]
George Gallo
For your dog today. Go to roughgreens.com just use promo code adam that's r u f f greens.com and use promo code adam and just cover shipping. You don't have to change your dog's food to improve your dog's health. Just add a scoop of rough greens.
- [37:57]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I think comedians were the only line of work. They asked you to know somebody. Are you a comedian? Hey, do you know Frank Smith in Milwaukee, Wisconsin? He's a local comedian. Milwaukee. There been any TV shows, any movies or anything? Oh no, no. It's a local guy trying to get us down with their Frank Smith, Milwaukee local guy. How the when I know Frank Smith from Milwaukee, they don't do that to nobody else. Nobody goes up to LeBron James. LeBron, you know, David Jackson plays basketball at the YMC in Dublin on Tuesday nights.
- [38:29]
George Gallo
Gary Owen is on the Adam Corolla show.
- [38:31]
Adam Carolla
Gary's got a spot Stand up special. No s available now on Mint. How's Mint treating you?
- [38:38]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Good? Mint. I think it's Mint comedy dot com.
- [38:42]
Adam Carolla
Mint Comedy dot com. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How'd that come about? Because there's all these great platforms now, all these different ones. I mean, it used to be. Well, oh, it used to be Showtime, then it'd be HBO, then it'd be, you know, Netflix and be YouTube. And now it's, like, a lot of platforms.
- [38:59]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, we. This one kind of is like a bonus for me because I was gearing up to shoot a special, and we shot it on Friday. And then Saturday morning, I woke up and I looked at my manager because we were. We're doing four shows, and we're gonna edit it down to one. And I said, did we get last night good? Like, we're clean. We got two shows. We can edit that up? She goes, yeah. I go, I think I got another hour.
- [39:20]
Adam Carolla
Wow.
- [39:21]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So we sat down and we was at a coffee shop in San Jose, and we. We kind of wrote down the bullet points. And I go, yeah, this will flow. Good. So we did the second hour Saturday, and then this is the second hour. And I said, well, let's. Let's. Are we just gonna throw it on YouTube? What are we doing with it? And then Mint Comedy came along. They go, why don't you let us basically rent it for three months since we were so conditioned to get so much for free now, you know, it's not easy to get everybody just to pay to see a special. So I said, well, let's roll the dice and see what happens with it. So it's doing decent, so I'm happy with the numbers coming in.
- [39:56]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, Well, I mean, there's two parts. One, it's nice to get paid for a comedy special, but on the other hand, it's nice to have a bunch of people watch a comedy special because they'll buy tickets and you get paid that way.
- [40:08]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, that's why they have it for three months, and then I can do what I want with it, put it on YouTube, put it wherever. So it's kind of like an exclusive content before it comes out.
- [40:16]
Adam Carolla
So I saw you with Kid Rock at the Ryman. Right. Last time I saw you, that was a fun night. Right?
- [40:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, that. That always funny. Because after the show, did you end up going to his bar? Yeah, I went there afterwards, and they, like, took over the whole third floor or some floor. And right as he's getting ready to leave, he was so gone by then. I think he was going at the show. He was he was.
- [40:42]
Adam Carolla
He was drinking. He was smoking a lot of reefer. He was drinking a lot. He was in the. He was in the wings. And then it started. At some point in the middle of my set, he decided to walk out and help me.
- [40:53]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I forgot. Cause I said, yo, they know I'm still going up, right? That would happen at the end when.
- [40:59]
Dawson
He walked out, did you go?
- [41:00]
Adam Carolla
His name is ke. I was like, I remember he walked out in the middle of it. I don't know. You know, what are you supposed to do? It's his show.
- [41:13]
Jason Mayhem Miller
It's his show.
- [41:14]
Adam Carolla
It's at the Ryman. The Ryman's amazing.
- [41:17]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I kept asking people because he was up there with you, and it felt like it was closing.
- [41:22]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [41:22]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I was like this. I go, hey, they. They know I'm going up, right? Like, I'm still going up. They go, yeah, you're good, you're good, you're good. I said, all right.
- [41:29]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. I don't know what. What Kid Rock knew or what he didn't know, but somebody knew something. That. That much I know.
- [41:36]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Oh, yeah. I remember afterwards, we was at the bar, and he was getting ready to leave, and my. My road major ran up to him and goes, hey, can. Can I get a picture for Gary? Like. And he goes. He goes, I ain't taking no more fucking pictures. I was like. I looked at my rubber, just started dining. And I think everybody saw my face and thought I was gonna be pissed. I go. I go, that was a funny. I'm glad I didn't get the picture. That was better than getting the picture. I ain't taking them on fucking pisses.
- [42:00]
Adam Carolla
It was very kid Rocky.
- [42:02]
Dawson
Yeah, exactly.
- [42:03]
Adam Carolla
You know, he's. He doesn't disappoint. I don't think him. Him and Hasselhoff are two dudes that are more. When you see him in real life. Oh, really?
- [42:11]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So I've never met Hasselhoff.
- [42:12]
Adam Carolla
Hasselhoff I spotted at a car show once, and I thought it was a guy doing an impersonation of Hasselhoff because I thought the real Hasselhoff wouldn't have his shirt undone to his navel, like, at a car show. Not working, just walking around. But there's some guys that are more of what they are, you know, I.
- [42:32]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Heard that he was a. His singing career was huge in, like, Europe, in Germany, and he released a concert, and it was the night of OJ Driving the Bronco, so nobody saw it. That was supposed to be his crossover.
- [42:46]
Adam Carolla
Debut to the States, you know, Let me tell you There's a few hypocrisy stories out there, which is he had this. It was gonna be a huge pay per view night, but then this, you know what I mean? And like I know the manager, he's passed away. But Tom Greens, old manager, was my manager. And Freddy Got Fingered was a horrible piece of shit movie. But he would always go, the reason that movie didn't do well is people would buy it was R rated. The kids would buy a PG ticket and then sneak into Freddy Gottfinger. But he never got credit. And I'd go, or the movie sucked.
- [43:29]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Or that.
- [43:30]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Or Hasselhoff no one wants to hear sing.
- [43:33]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [43:33]
Adam Carolla
And O.J. made a run for it. You know what I mean? I think, I think. But he has a good out. It was the OJ Slow speed.
- [43:40]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that.
- [43:42]
Adam Carolla
And Hasselhoff had a suit that lit up like. He had like a. Like a bedazzled light up suit. And he was going to be singing like on the Berlin Wall or something.
- [43:54]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That's right, that's right. Guy, you know the story better than I do.
- [43:57]
Adam Carolla
I keep track.
- [43:58]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right.
- [44:01]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And he has his stupidest song ever. So I was like, hop in my car, you know, you need a ride? It's like the dumbest. Wait, this is him.
- [44:11]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Oh, there it is.
- [44:12]
Adam Carolla
He's on the Berlin Wall. He's. He's on the Berlin Wall with a light, a light up jacket.
- [44:25]
Dawson
If OJ Would have had his car, he would have got away.
- [44:27]
Adam Carolla
He would have. If he would have had hit a turbo, it would have kit from Night Run. Yeah, I don't envious. Envious of people that have pretty marginal talent in a certain, A certain ability and they go out there and they just fucking own it.
- [44:49]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You know what I mean?
- [44:50]
Adam Carolla
I mean sort of like drunk guys who claim or try to fight, you know, at an airport. Like this guy doesn't have any skill at all. Oh, fucking gonna bring it. Right?
- [44:59]
Gary Owen
Yeah.
- [44:59]
Adam Carolla
Like I feel like if someone said you should sing, I'd go, I don't really sound good enough. Instead of like, where's my jacket? I'm going. But you'll see something special that way, right?
- [45:12]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, I don't, I don't. I don't watch a lot of stand up anymore just. Cause I never want to think that my jokes aren't mine. I've seen it a lot.
- [45:21]
Adam Carolla
Oh, like plausible deniability.
- [45:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I just want to know my stuff's mine. And if you say, hey, somebody else has got something. Because if there's a current event, there's only so many angles people are going to take. So I just want to be like, my shit is mine, Right?
- [45:37]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. So they're not going. So if you saw their special, then there's like, you could have lifted it.
- [45:45]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, I saw Damon Wayans on Shannon Shard's podcast, Vault Podcast, and I thought he explained it perfectly. He was like, he took a Joe Rogan joke and didn't realize he took it until he said it on stage. And he goes, wait a minute. Because he said, I had an animal joke. I had a bunch of jokes about animals. He goes, but then there was a lion joke that Joe Rogan had. He goes, and I did all my jokes about animals. And at the end, I did this lion joke. And the crowd went nuts. And he goes, this joke's never gotten a laugh like that. Why are they laughing so hard? This is like a setup to another joke. He said, oh, shoot, that's Joe Rogan's joke. And it popped out of my mouth. And he goes, the offense isn't doing it in that. It's to keep doing it after you realize it's not yours. And I was like, yeah, that's why. And he said he stopped watching stand up. And I go, obviously you're gonna see clips on social media, but to sit down and watch a special, I just can't do it.
- [46:40]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Because here's what I've learned about human beings. When they hear a good idea, it takes about 10 minutes for them to convert it into their idea. But it's really just a good idea that they wish they had and a good joke that they wish they'd made. But somehow there's a conversion. And it can be honest. It doesn't always have to be stealing a joke. It's like, it's just an honest conversion. I've had it happen and seen people do it. Like, you have to go back and listen to the tape thing.
- [47:12]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, my daughter, when she was born, I had my opener, right? He had a daughter six months after mine. Oh, my ex wife was irate. I said, what's your name? Your daughter? He goes, kennedy. And I went, really? That's my daughter's name. And I go, my daughter's name is Kennedy. He goes, I was wondering where I heard it. I was like, oh, my God, I took my daughter's name. Yeah. And he just, like, he paused. He goes, I was wondering where we heard that.
- [47:39]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, well, we have this infinite capacity to be, like, super forgiving to ourselves and then we sort of end up in our own corner. I mean, that's why I like people low self esteem because they're not that way. But everyone with high self esteem will go, no, no, that was my thing that you took from me. Or they hear stuff they like and then they somehow there's a little steeping period where they have to live with it for a little and then later on it goes flying out of their mouth because they like it and now they own it in their world. I don't know, I don't think I've ever been accused of anyone else's stuff, so I've been lucky that way. But also, I think if you approach things from a little different perspective, you're probably not gonna get caught up in it too much.
- [48:32]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [48:32]
Adam Carolla
But if you wanna do. But it's true. When someone goes, Trump wants to build the wall to keep the Mexicans out, who's he thinks gonna build the wall? Every human who lives in Southern California had that thought. Cause they've all driven onto freeway and seen the Mexican road crews stacking the cinder blocks up by the side of the freeway for the sound barrier. And so every comedian has ever spent time in LA traffic had the Mexican block build the wall joke.
- [48:59]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, it's also, it's just like Asians are bad drivers.
- [49:02]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [49:03]
Jason Mayhem Miller
It's like, you know, white guys can't dance. There's the stereotypical typical jokes that there's only so many angles you could take.
- [49:10]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. I mean, there's stuff that is sort of baked in and then there's stuff that no one thought about because no one talked about a wall. But now when they do, it's there and they all get to the same place at the same time.
- [49:23]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that.
- [49:24]
Adam Carolla
So you don't watch specials?
- [49:27]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I don't watch a lot.
- [49:29]
Adam Carolla
But you see clips and things like that.
- [49:30]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah, Obviously you're going to see the clips and then you're going to see your openers too. You're going to see them on the road. But as far as like just a special, I just want to think like, my stuff is mine.
- [49:41]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. How'd you get started?
- [49:44]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I was in the Navy and I was like, I knew I didn't want to do that for the rest of my life. So I was like, everybody said I was funny. I always kind of knew because I was class clown in high school and stuff. And so I was in Navy. I went up to the Comedy Store in La Jolla, did the open mic the first time.
- [50:01]
Adam Carolla
Oh, you said come from a naval family, right?
- [50:04]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, yeah, my dad was in the Navy. My grandpa was in the Navy, but.
- [50:08]
Adam Carolla
I'll go with that.
- [50:09]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if that wasn't the reason I joined.
- [50:13]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, but it helped, right? No, it wasn't that. Was it just random? You went, it was random. I was in the Navy and your grandpa was in the Navy, and Rando.
- [50:20]
Jason Mayhem Miller
It was random because I was. I was. We live. I was living in a trailer park right outside of Cincinnati, Ohio, and it was like, December, my senior year of high school, and a buddy of mine had joined the Navy. He literally just woke me up one morning and was like, come on, man. Come down to the recruiting station. And it was the army, Marines and Navy was all in the same building. So I met with all three the same day. So the army guy said, you'll appreciate this. He goes, so you wrestle? You're on your high school wrestling team? I said, yeah. He goes, you know, if you join the army, you can try for the army wrestling team. You can just wrestle. I said, I'm three and 30. I've won three times and lost 30. I've been pinned 29 times. I said, there's not a high school gymnasium in Cincinnati, Ohio. You show me the ceiling, I'll tell you what school it is. I saw them all, baby. So right then, the army was out. The Marine guy scared me a little bit by, you know, he was, like, a little bit too gung ho. We're the first ones in. I go, ah, I'm gonna fall back on that.
- [51:20]
Adam Carolla
Right?
- [51:20]
Jason Mayhem Miller
The Navy guy was just the most honest with me. Like, he just told me what it was, what I can expect. I go, all right, so. And my buddy had joined the Navy, so really, it's because he was in. So I just said, all right, well, this is. I can get out of the trailer park. So one thing. I didn't know where I want to go. I just know where they want to be. I don't want to be stuck in the trailer for my whole life.
- [51:37]
Dawson
It's a well known seafaring town, Cincinnati.
- [51:40]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, big time. Big time.
- [51:41]
Adam Carolla
Does every time I talk to somebody who is in the Navy, who didn't really climb the ranks of the Navy, and I ask them what they did, they always say, the super unsatisfying boatsman's mate.
- [51:54]
Jason Mayhem Miller
No, I wasn't a boatswain's mate.
- [51:56]
Adam Carolla
And I just go, oh, like, I wanted something I could hang my hat on, but I don't know what a bozeman's mate is they kind of just.
- [52:04]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Do a little bit of everything on the boat and they, they tie the knots and they, they're kind of like, I don't want to offend. Boatswain's mate. Is it very much like janitors, Like a janitor?
- [52:14]
Adam Carolla
BO Is it boats?
- [52:16]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Boatsman's boatsman. B O A T. So it's like M A N. Is that boatsman's mate.
- [52:22]
Dawson
Or it's just boatsman's.
- [52:23]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Not just one word. Boatsman's mate. But it's like. I don't want to say janitor. Yeah, handyman. I know, but I'm always a handyman on the ship.
- [52:31]
Adam Carolla
And so what did you do?
- [52:32]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I was first years, I was in honor guard, so I got stationed in D.C. and so we did all the funerals and parades in, in D.C. you know, you see on TV when the, when the president walks by and you got all the guys standing there, that's what I did.
- [52:46]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [52:47]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And then after that I was a cop, so the rest of the time was a cop.
- [52:50]
Adam Carolla
Do they got to clear you in terms of your history and stuff? Because I see it especially when it's, you know, when the president goes to Nicaragua or something, he's climbing out of Air Force One, he's walking along the tarmac, There's a bunch of guys just standing there with guns. Like, this guy's 19 and a half. Who the fuck knows where he came from? Well, this guy's a gun. He's just standing there.
- [53:13]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, this is how you do it. I'm in boot camp. And they said, everyone over 6ft tall with a 34 inch waist or under come down the field house. So like 80 of us went down the field house.
- [53:24]
Adam Carolla
They shot the best gay porn this man's Navy has ever seen. Oh, yeah.
- [53:32]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And that's how I got it. I took the most dicks. So I, I was, I fit that mold. I was 6, 2. I was 17. I was real skinny. So I was like, all right. So I didn't know what happened. They just said, do you want to do it? They show you this big video and then you sign up. And then like three weeks later, they said, oh, and you. Do you still want to do it? And I said, yeah. They said, all right, well, we're going to reroute everything. You take away your job, you're going to now go to D.C. for two years. I go. When I graduate boot camp, I go home for two weeks. I didn't realize they went back and talked to my Principal, they checked my police records. They talked to the mayor, they talked to my parents. Like, I was like, what? Like my principal's what had told me, goes, yo, we thought something happened to you. It felt like Secret Service was coming in.
- [54:19]
Adam Carolla
They needed. Yeah, they had to do background.
- [54:21]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, they did all the background checks. And even when you're in. Once you get there, the first two months, you're in this thing called train a platoon, where you basically live in the attic of the barracks building called Independence Hall. And you're just, you're drilling, you're learning how to spin the rifles, do your uniforms, and they're still doing background checks on you as we go. And when I say you get kicked out for any little thing. One guy got drunk, took a little kayak that was on the Anacostia river and just paddled out for about 100 yards and came back and they found out and he was gone. Like any little thing, you're gone.
- [54:59]
Adam Carolla
Right?
- [55:00]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So the, the, the good thing about doing the Honor guard, though, is after the. If you get through the two years, you get to either pick your duty station or pick your job, as long as you qualify for it. So that was like the thank you for your service for us. So I picked master at arms, which is a cop, because it was a new rate. And then you can make rate fast, which means more money. I said, I'll do that. So then I went to the police academy in San Antonio, and then I got stationed in San Diego and that's when I started doing police work.
- [55:34]
Adam Carolla
Now, is it police work for the Navy or just police work?
- [55:38]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Just the Navy. But I mean, we have, we had a nightclub on the base. We had base housing, you know, so we, it's like a little, your own little self enclosed city. We just don't have the murders or the violence. You still got a lot of DUIs.
- [55:52]
Adam Carolla
We had bar fights, we had all.
- [55:54]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That stuff, but we just didn't have the.
- [55:56]
Adam Carolla
Did you. When you do the honor guard stuff, there's no live ammo anywhere near those guns?
- [56:01]
Jason Mayhem Miller
No, it's not live ammo on those. We do have the bayonets, though.
- [56:04]
Adam Carolla
The bayonet? Yeah, yeah.
- [56:05]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So you want to do that first.
- [56:08]
Dawson
Lady get activated like the Manchurian Candidate. Right.
- [56:11]
Adam Carolla
It's a weird mixed message. Taking a rifle and just spinning it around and, you know, throwing, slamming down stuff like for kids watching, you got. No, no, don't guns. Between westerns and the Honor Guard, there's a lot of flying around. It's like, it's kind of Weird, because guns are very, you know, you always point it down. You keep it in the trunk of the car when you're driving. You never point it at somebody. But every western is a guy like whipping it around and every honor guard thing is. And would you train. You probably trained with like white two by fours, right, that were cut out and stuff.
- [56:46]
Jason Mayhem Miller
No, no, we trained in the beginning. You trained with. They're just dummy guns, really.
- [56:52]
Adam Carolla
Oh.
- [56:53]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Because you honestly, you got to get used to the weight. Yeah, weight and balance of it.
- [56:57]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [56:57]
Jason Mayhem Miller
But the thing is when you're flipping it up. But you know, we do, we do basic movements. When you're on the guard, they have us like, it's called drill team.
- [57:05]
Adam Carolla
I got like the Blue Angels.
- [57:07]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, the drill team's the one really throwing them up in the air and flipping them. We're doing basic movements. Like we'll spin it, but we're not throwing at somebody and have them throwing it back and catching it. We're just doing the basic movements for the brakes.
- [57:18]
Adam Carolla
Funny. The cops have the motorcycle guys who do the weave move in between. Like every branch kind of has their own Blue Angels, you know, kind of do their own fun parade stuff. Did you. Were you on any detail ever where you were like, oh, man, that's Barack Obama.
- [57:36]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I did the inauguration for Clinton.
- [57:38]
Adam Carolla
Oh, you did Clinton's inauguration?
- [57:39]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So Bush got out, Clinton came in. So that was the 92, 93 inauguration. So I was like 17, 18. And you know, just we practice all we practiced for like three months around the parking lot of the base. And then you. We get bused over to Pennsylvania Avenue. You're lined up. And we were behind, like, I think we were behind the. I think we were behind the Florida A and M band. So that's a. That's a black college. And I was like, yo, we really gotta step our game up. Oh, yeah. They was taxi rolling and they was doing flips everything else. And that's what I kind of knew about Clinton. Because when you walked by the president, we did the eyes left. And I think he was still looking at the girls in Florida. He ain't see us at all.
- [58:26]
Adam Carolla
Do the eyes left do now what happens if combat breaks out like a war? Do. Do you then put down the fake gun and pick up the real gun and show up?
- [58:39]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That's gonna happen where we're at in D.C. like that?
- [58:43]
Adam Carolla
No, I'm just saying it would at some point if, like, let's say the shit goes down and you go, we need all the troops. Like, we need Everyone is in the Navy to mobilize. You know, we wouldn't go. You wouldn't go?
- [58:57]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Nah. Because you still gotta have people that bury the people. That sounds morbid.
- [59:00]
Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah.
- [59:01]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You still gotta have those guys to bury people. And that was us.
- [59:04]
Adam Carolla
Oh.
- [59:05]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You know.
- [59:05]
Adam Carolla
Did you do a lot of that?
- [59:06]
Jason Mayhem Miller
We did a couple funerals. Funerals are funerals that desensitize you a lot because there's a board. And then you'll see what. What your detail is the next day. So you might have, like, three funerals. And it gets to the point where you're like. You're mad. You're like, God damn, I got three funerals tomorrow. And then you're looking at the religion, right? Like, oh, it's Catholic.
- [59:29]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [59:29]
Jason Mayhem Miller
This one's gonna be all day.
- [59:30]
Adam Carolla
Not another Jew.
- [59:32]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [59:32]
Adam Carolla
Another boatsman's mate. Right. Wittenberg.
- [59:35]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You got them all. But you see, you do see a few wild things when you're doing it. There was one guy, they called him body Bears, the guys that carry the casket. So I did a. I was. I was a body bearer for a little while, and then I was other things. But one guy, they always told me, like, he would cry every funeral, and it ended up being kind of a cool thing to see because I. The one time I had a funeral with him, lived across from it, was almost very stoic. He kept folding the flag. He kept it respectful. But that tear would just come down every time, though.
- [60:11]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Yeah.
- [60:11]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You know, so I was kind of.
- [60:12]
Adam Carolla
Like, I guess I. I would appreciate that if I was the parents of the fall, you know, Little emotion for that purpose.
- [60:19]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah. I was like this.
- [60:20]
Adam Carolla
Looking at your clock and your watch and complaining the whole time.
- [60:23]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Now we had one guy slip into the hole.
- [60:26]
Adam Carolla
Oh.
- [60:27]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So you gotta realize when we're carrying the casket, we're eyes front and then we're turning everything. Everything's like a dance. And it was raining.
- [60:35]
Adam Carolla
Oh, man.
- [60:36]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And it was wet. And the guy just fook. I didn't see him go down, but we. We turned. Cause you. I'm still looking at you. So he might be two guys down from me. And you feel the. The Cassie kind of movement. You're going, lurch got heavier. You know what I mean? And you're just kind of like. Cause you can't show it.
- [60:55]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [60:55]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You're going, did this motherfucker fall in the hole? And we have to wait till the entire funeral's over. We put the casket on. He's in the hole the entire time.
- [61:07]
Adam Carolla
The whole time.
- [61:07]
Jason Mayhem Miller
The preacher's going. You can't pull him out.
- [61:10]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [61:10]
Jason Mayhem Miller
He's just underneath there.
- [61:11]
Adam Carolla
Because I keep looking up the bottom of the casket.
- [61:14]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Out of my eyes. I'm just. I'm standing there at attention, but I'm going, he's in the hole. He's in the hole.
- [61:20]
Dawson
A famous movie shot, looking up at the casket.
- [61:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That was probably the. The wildest thing I saw in the honor guard. Just the circumstances, like, he slipped and just had to stay there. I'm talking till the family left in a muddy pit. Right.
- [61:34]
Adam Carolla
The family left because the pre.
- [61:36]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You know, the preacher's doing his thing. We got to give the family the flag. We have to show the respect.
- [61:41]
Gary Owen
But what.
- [61:42]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I mean, what are you gonna do?
- [61:43]
Adam Carolla
Did you do the 21 gun ever?
- [61:47]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yep. But they're blanks.
- [61:50]
Adam Carolla
But you're still doing it. The bolt action, everything.
- [61:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, I liked. I liked. Honestly, I liked the cannons when you. When we would have dignitaries come into the Navy yard, so we would do ceremonies there. And if I ever got on. On the cannons, I liked it for two reasons. One, a tree sat over the cannons. So you got a little shade because, you know, D.C. in the summer's hot.
- [62:11]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. And they're full military.
- [62:14]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You're leaking.
- [62:15]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [62:16]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So the cannons was great because you had the shade. And then you can almost, like, let off a little aggression because you got to hit that and then flick it back, and then it takes. And then it. I mean, a cannibal doesn't come out. It's just blank.
- [62:27]
Adam Carolla
Blank.
- [62:28]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah. It's still cool because you can actually, like, you're moving instead of. Some of them guys are just on the grass, just standing there for hours.
- [62:34]
Adam Carolla
So how'd they. The comedy. How many years were you in all in on the Navy?
- [62:41]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Six years in total.
- [62:42]
Adam Carolla
That's interesting, because normally it's like four years, and then.
- [62:46]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Or whatever, you do your two years. I did my two years in the honor guard. I originally signed up for four. So I did my two years in the honor guard, and then I went to the police academy. So then the Navy's going to get their money out of it. So if they're spending money to train you to be a cop, they're going to be like, you ain't about to be a cop for a year and a half. So I had to extend, and I had to do. I had to say, I will be in for three more years. So really, it was like. It came out to like, five years and nine months.
- [63:14]
Adam Carolla
I knew a guy, his name is Dave, and he was in The Navy. And he got thrown out of the Navy for beating a commanding officer with a shoe because they were at a bar, he didn't know he was commanding officer. And they got in a fight and ended up beating him with a shoe. And later on he got thrown out of the Navy or maybe a discharge, but maybe not dishonorable. Whatever they wanted him to leave, he did. But he always got medical and home loans and stuff. Like, he got good. He got a lot of benefits, like, way down the road. And also, it was sort of like when I was 18, I wasn't doing jack shit. I showed up, went to junior college, knocked around a little, dug ditches on a construction site. By the time I was 22, I still wasn't really doing anything. I wish I'd accrued something with that. Four years or six years. And, like, got the medical and the dental and whatever, the VA loans and all the perks, right? They kind of follow you, right?
- [64:22]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, while I was in, I took full advantage of everything. I got my wisdom teeth pulled. I got ingrown toenails taken out. Anything that I could get done, right? Like, let me get this done while I'm in. And then I. I tore my ACL when I was in.
- [64:35]
Adam Carolla
Oh, you did?
- [64:35]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So when I got out, I got out. Honorable discharge. But I also got medical. So I still get, you know, a little bit of money the first of every month.
- [64:44]
Adam Carolla
Do you get. Like, when you were going to buy your first home, did you. Did you go, I'm going to use the VA loan, whatever?
- [64:51]
Jason Mayhem Miller
No, I didn't do that. I didn't do anything. I didn't. I didn't use the GI Bill because the first year you're in the Navy, they take $100 a month out of your check. And then if you, when you get out of the Navy, they're saying, well, we will give you $12,000 as long as it's going to whatever education. So I did the GI Bill, but I just never used it because I was doing stand up.
- [65:11]
Adam Carolla
So we. Did you start doing stand up when you were still in.
- [65:14]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Here's a crazy. I was on TV and in the Navy at the same time. This is how it worked. I was doing stand up all over San Diego and I was in my truck and I heard we're looking for the funniest black comedian in San Diego. So I signed up. But I didn't tell him I was black or I wasn't black. I just called in for cell phones. You had to, like, write the number down and Call in.
- [65:38]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [65:39]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So I entered the contest and I won. So keep on San Diego.
- [65:43]
Adam Carolla
Wait, you won over the phone?
- [65:44]
Jason Mayhem Miller
No, I called in to say, I want to enter the contest.
- [65:47]
Adam Carolla
And you won the contest? Yes, but at some point you had to show up. And I'd see a blue eyed guy with blind. So you.
- [65:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Basically, they're like, they're like, yeah. The first round is Tuesday at, you know, Smokey's Bar. So I go into the first round and then I won that. And then I got to the second round. I ended up. I ended up winning the whole thing. First prize was an audition for BET's Comic View.
- [66:07]
Adam Carolla
Wait, how many black people were in San Diego?
- [66:09]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That's what I'm saying. It wasn't Brooklyn. It's not the funniest black guy in Watts. I mean, it wasn't.
- [66:14]
Adam Carolla
Well, you know what Elvis did to the black man. You stole his thunder, didn't you?
- [66:20]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Hey, I would have. I would have went on Telemundo if I knew Spanish at that point. I was just trying to, you know, in. When you first started, stand up, you hear anybody having a contest or an open mic, you're like, I'm there.
- [66:30]
Adam Carolla
So you won the competition?
- [66:31]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [66:32]
Adam Carolla
And get.
- [66:33]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I auditioned for come with you and I got on. They used to film the whole season in a week at the Hollywood Athletics.
- [66:40]
Adam Carolla
What. What show?
- [66:41]
Jason Mayhem Miller
BET's comic view.
- [66:43]
Adam Carolla
Oh, BET.
- [66:44]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, they used to film the whole season in a week. So they do Monday through Friday, and it was either three or five episodes. They would do a day.
- [66:52]
Adam Carolla
Mm.
- [66:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
All I did, I took a week's leave. I drove up to la, I did all my rounds, and then I drove back down the base. I was back at work a week later. I don't have cable. I don't realize, like two, three months later, the show's now airing. And I remember I'd be waving cars on the base and every down there, a black guy pull up and be like, wait, were you on TV last night? I go, no, keep going. That's not me. Right? And then I had to be like. I had to check up, like, dude, am I on TV right now?
- [67:20]
Adam Carolla
Was. Is the black. The BET comedy? Is that sort of like Howard University or Black University where they're Black University, but there's a dusting of white dudes there, right? Like at a black university, there's always a couple of white dudes lurking around. Yeah, Kicker and the putter, the long snapper.
- [67:41]
Jason Mayhem Miller
When I, when I did Comic View, I had only seen one other white guy on there at the time. And then when I did it, there was another, there was two. So I. There was three that I knew of, two before I came on. But then when I became the host, they switched it. It used to be like, 20 or 25 comics. It was a contest. They said, nah, they just opened the floodgates. So the year I hosted, I think I brought up like, 300 comics that year.
- [68:10]
Adam Carolla
So you're winning competitions and on TV and still enlisted?
- [68:14]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [68:15]
Adam Carolla
And then when you get out, is that when you just hit it full time?
- [68:21]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, it's funny. Curtis Gadsden used to be the head of bet. I get a phone call and they said, curtis Gadsden wants to meet with you. I said, all right. So I got off early. I drove up to la, met with him. He goes, yeah, we want to make you the host. And I still had, like six months left on my enlistment. And I go, what? He goes, we want to make it the host of Comic View. I'm thinking, when do you start filming there? We film in three months. I'm like, so my command doesn't know I'm doing stand up. Obviously. Bet he doesn't know I'm in the Navy. I had to go back to my command and be like, hey, I got a TV show and get out three months early.
- [68:54]
Adam Carolla
Wow.
- [68:54]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And then they had me with a board. The board denied it. And then. God bless my command, though. I had a. I had a couple black guys, like my chiefs, and they. They looked out like no other, said, gay, we got you. So they just put me on a part of the base where I was grading papers. I was supposed to be grading papers or something. And then all they do is check in on Monday. So all they said was, promise us don't get your ear pierced. Don't let your hair grow out. Just come in. Every Monday, we're gonna say, we laid eyes on you, we checked on you, and then we're just gonna basically mark you as you. You was here Monday through Friday. And so that. That worked out. And I was able to record comic to you and I. And it did kind of suck because, you know, come to la. I don't have the story of I was broke sleeping on people's couches, but I was even. I didn't have any money, but I didn't owe any money. But those checks were coming in every two weeks still from the Navy. So I remember when the discharge papers finally came in, I go, fuck.
- [69:51]
Adam Carolla
Because you weren't really in it.
- [69:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [69:53]
Adam Carolla
What was two weeks worth of pain? Navy Back then, Back then, oh my.
- [69:59]
Jason Mayhem Miller
God, you're talking almost 30 years ago.
- [70:03]
Adam Carolla
Why?
- [70:03]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I remember my first check ever was $512 for two weeks. For two weeks. And that's with everything taken out. It was a GI bill and I guess they took taxes out. But I think when I got out I was making almost 30,000 a year.
- [70:18]
Adam Carolla
When I got out 30 years ago. Not too, not well, not too shabby, but you know, not gonna get rich, but I mean I was.
- [70:26]
Jason Mayhem Miller
No dental, no medical insurance. You're covered.
- [70:29]
Adam Carolla
I was trying to do a math, speaking of that, which is like everyone's always talking about, especially in la, how expensive housing is. Housing is really expensive and rentals and stuff like that. And I was trying to do a math. I was like, well my first apartment was on Laurel Canyon and it was like the mid-80s and I was making 8 bucks an hour, maybe 9 bucks an hour on a construction site. But they were taking taxes out and I was getting out of there with about, I remember some of my pay stubs. I was like 240 bucks a week is what I was like bringing home. And I got a one bedroom apartment with a roommate and we just shared a futon and eventually there was together three there. Yeah, we didn't take shifts.
- [71:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You would have been good in the Navy.
- [71:25]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I could bunk up. I didn't even both get on the lower bunk. How about that thrill? I didn't, I just, I didn't care. I didn't care about anything. There was a one bedroom, there was a futon. I didn't own a mattress or box ring or anything and. But our rent as I look back on it was like 480amonth or something for one bedroom. But now that place would be like two grand a month. And I looked around, I looked at prices like around North Hollywood and Burbank and stuff. It was like, yeah, one bedroom, 1800, 2,200, whatever. I don't know, that place would be two grand. But when you break it down, I was making like 8 bucks an hour, you know, and people, now we're not talking about working fast food, but we're just talking about working, just kind of working. Now guys make 30 bucks an hour, 35 bucks an hour. Like it's not that far off ratio wise. But I couldn't live there alone. I had to get a roommate. I had to live in a one bedroom. I couldn't do a two bedroom with the roommate because then the price would go up to 750 bucks a month and I couldn't cut it. But if you can, you know, if you want to slum it, like if you want to get a roommate and you want to share food. Done. And you don't want to live in, you know, Beverly Hills, like you can, you can pull it off. I don't, I didn't ever get like, like I wouldn't be on the street.
- [73:00]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [73:00]
Adam Carolla
We just get a, we got a third roommate at some point, which is crazy.
- [73:04]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I always have roommates in the Navy, you know, every time. But the good thing is when you're.
- [73:09]
Adam Carolla
On, like off base stuff.
- [73:10]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah. When you're on a ship, if you ain't married, you. They don't give you an extra money for housing when you go to shore duty. That's why everybody wants shore duty because they give you VHA and baq, which is they give you a housing allowance. All dependent on your rate and how long you've been in. So you get more money the longer in and obviously the higher rate you get, you get more money.
- [73:32]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [73:32]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So that was always an incentive, so to speak. But I also saw a couple people get married that didn't want to be married just for the money. Because if you're married, whether you're on a ship or not, they give you housing allowance. There was one, there was a, it was funny. There was a guy, we all knew he was gay and there was a girl, we all knew she was a lesbian and they got married and they had a two bedroom spot and they were living their life. That was kind of smart.
- [74:00]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. No, that is smart. Yeah. Shrewd. So you're, you get out and you've hit the ground running. You're, you're doing stand up.
- [74:08]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Oh yeah, I was doing stand up when I was in. And then I got to LA and I got the TV show. So I was, I never got the grind, so to speak, of like featuring for somebody for years and doing feature work because I was, I was, I couldn't travel, so I was always in the Navy. I was doing shows six days a week. Just in San Diego though. Right. So I don't have the only. The one rogue gig I had that I was a feature was at the Comic Strip in El Paso. And this is at a time when you had to fax over your resume, send a headshot VHS tape to get work. And I was still in the Navy and I was, I was, I was just sending out the comedy clubs thinking somebody will take a bite. And I wasn't on any TV shows yet, so I was lying on my resume. I remember one time, one of my bios, I said, I opened up for Jim Carrey for a cancer benefit. Just. It was all a lie, Right. And then come true. Pass. I called and said, yeah, we'll give you, like, I don't know, it was like 50 bucks a show. And we got a comic condo. You just got to get here. Can you be here this weekend? And I was like, I went to my command, took a couple days leave, and then I just. I remember I drove. I had no concept of getting on a plane to go to the gig.
- [75:24]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [75:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I drove from San Diego to El Paso. So I get there, I'm just geeked. It was the best drive of my life because I was so happy. I was like, oh, I'm on the road.
- [75:33]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [75:34]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Get there, go to the condo. I was like, okay, I gotta map this out. How am I gonna make some money here? So I went to the grocery store and got Cocoa Puffs and a gallon of milk. And I said, that's. That's breakfast. And arby's had the two beef and cheddar for $2. I go, there's lunch.
- [75:49]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [75:50]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And then you eat at the comedy club for dinner.
- [75:51]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [75:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And you bring the food back for late night snacks. And I go, I was solid. I was solid for the week.
- [75:57]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Burger King, the one next to the cabinet shop I worked at in Chatsworth had a. Would run a dollar Big Whopper. They do a dollar Whopper special. Get the two whoppers. Like, the poor person, there's little snapshots of the poor thing where he had to defeat certain stuff.
- [76:17]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Things you do. Yeah. But at the time you're in it, them beef and cheddar's were good. The Cocoa Puffs take good in the morning. I was like, dude, this is life.
- [76:26]
Adam Carolla
So I'm looking here and I see you recognize as black America's favorite white comedian by Ebony magazine. But then I started thinking to myself, who are the other white comedians that are recognized by the black community? And historically were their guys? I mean, were you the Rosa Parks white comedians who paved the way? Basically, because I don't. You know, you think about all the comedians here, but you don't think, wait a minute, they didn't cross over that way or that wasn't their.
- [77:03]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, usually your audience is who you are. Like if you're Joe Coy, your audience is Filipino. If Gabriel Glacier Cord is Mexican, you know what I mean? Sebastian is Italian.
- [77:13]
Adam Carolla
Yes.
- [77:13]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I don't know. I think I'm the only guy that, like, white guy from a trailer park. My fan base is black.
- [77:18]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. You know what percentage of the audience is black Now?
- [77:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
It's. It's different because we're in a social media age, so people are finding me on tick tock and YouTube.
- [77:29]
Dawson
I grew up in the hood, and back then we all watch Comic View. They called me you.
- [77:33]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Oh, really?
- [77:35]
Dawson
Yeah, yeah. So it was that whole thing.
- [77:37]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah. Back in the day, I was the only one. One I was doing. So my. Most of my audience, I would say 80% back in the day. It's not like that anymore. It's a little. It's. It's a lot different. And it also depends on the market.
- [77:50]
Adam Carolla
Sure. It depends where you're at.
- [77:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, so I've never been booked in Salt Lake, if that says anything.
- [77:56]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [77:57]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You know, but I'm in Baltimore four times a year.
- [78:03]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. It's interesting what you attract and who they are.
- [78:09]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I always tell people, like, you don't.
- [78:11]
Adam Carolla
Choose your audience, they choose you.
- [78:13]
Dawson
Well, I would say there's a lot of brothers in the service, so you probably got a lot of vibe of locker room talk and chatting with the bros, and you know what I mean?
- [78:20]
Jason Mayhem Miller
The bros have a different vibe because.
- [78:23]
Dawson
I coach pro fighters and the black guys crack up at my, you know what I mean, kind of hood jokes. And the white kids are like, what are you talking about?
- [78:30]
Adam Carolla
Are they less black in the Navy versus, like the army and the Marine or.
- [78:37]
Jason Mayhem Miller
From what I've seen, from what I think there's more black people in the army than anywhere else. Yeah, sure.
- [78:41]
Adam Carolla
That makes sense.
- [78:42]
Dawson
My dad.
- [78:43]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, I would. I would say Navy. Probably second from what I've seen. Second Air Force, Coast Guard, Coast Guards, last for sure. That's. That's super white. Yeah, yeah, that's byu.
- [78:52]
Dawson
That's the boys.
- [78:53]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [78:54]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And that's from what I've seen now. I will say, when I was in the Navy, though, like, like I said, I started at the comic store in La Jolla, but they only had one night open mic, which was Sunday, So you had to do the whole call in and hope you get on.
- [79:08]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [79:08]
Jason Mayhem Miller
The black guys that I was in the Navy with are the ones I would always be like, dude, I wanted to be a stand up. And they was the ones that told me, dude, you can go here, you can go here on Wednesday, you can go here on Thursday. They do stand up. I said, what? But it was in the hood. A lot of white comics didn't want to go there. That was the Only way I was getting on stage at the time. So I was like. I started going, you know, I grew up in a trailer park, so I didn't. But to me, the hood didn't look that bad. I was like, oh, there's a couple bars on the window. Just safety first. So I didn't even pick up on it till later on. Other people started like, you go there and do stand up. I was like, yeah, what's wrong with that?
- [79:48]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I mean, that is part of the advantage of sort of growing up a certain way that you're not bothered by certain things that might bother other people. And it's everything. It's sort of like you caught a ride. You rode in the bed of that guy's pickup all the way to Vegas. Yeah, why not? I got a free ride to Vegas in the bed of the truck. Yeah, it was easy. Like, I go gets this poor person shit. Like, yeah, I got a free. I rode. I drove to Vegas in the bed of a pickup truck. Because. Why not?
- [80:20]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, you think if I'm going to the hood to perform, but I'm getting nothing but laughs.
- [80:25]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [80:25]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So to me, I'm looking at this club, not like it's in the ghetto. I'm looking at like, this is a hot room that I have nothing but good memories of. So I don't have that. Nobody was like, robbing me in the parking lot or anything like that.
- [80:38]
Adam Carolla
What? Well, that's what. You're wearing your MP uniform, so probably slowed the roll a little bit. But the places I do, I think about those open mics now and, like, the protocol. And you said you called in, that.
- [80:53]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Was for the contest, right? La Jolla had to call in.
- [80:58]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, but I thought back in the day you had to go in and like, fill, you know, put your name in a hat and then just sit there.
- [81:06]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Like, that must have been an LA thing.
- [81:08]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, with.
- [81:09]
Jason Mayhem Miller
With. I know, with the La Jolla store. With the Comedy Store in La Jolla. You call in at like 3 o' clock and say, hey, this is Gary. Can I get a spot and put my name on the list? And then you'd call back at like six or seven. They'd be like, yeah, you're third tonight for five minutes. That's what they did in La Jolla.
- [81:29]
Adam Carolla
That's good.
- [81:30]
Jason Mayhem Miller
All the. All the black spots, you just show up, right? And it's almost like me being a white dude. They'd almost be like, he's going up. In the beginning, they were he going up, Right. But yeah, and then Then it got to the point, like, if I walked in the room that they would automatically put me up because I, like you said, I'm on the fish out of water.
- [81:47]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, it's novel. It's fun.
- [81:48]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [81:49]
Adam Carolla
I mean, it's. I mean, especially if you're a good comic. But also, yeah, people want a little bit of a spectacle. It's fine.
- [81:58]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Kind of stuck out a little bit.
- [82:00]
Adam Carolla
All right, we should take a break. You got some news, right? Mayhem. Gary. And also it struck me I'm old, so when I hear Gary Owen, I think about laughing or the announcer. But I thought that crowd probably wasn't that hip.
- [82:15]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Let me tell you, when I first started headlining, like late 90s, early 2000s, it was verbatim. Every now and then, at least once or twice a month, an old couple would show up like, oh, we thought.
- [82:26]
Adam Carolla
It was somebody else every time. Gary Owens. Yeah, right.
- [82:30]
Dawson
You talk black.
- [82:31]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, he was, you know, ironically, sort of the whitest guy on the planet was Gary, but I think it was Owens. He had an S. He had an S in there. All right, quick break. Back with the news right after this. Well, starting a business, that can be intimidating. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff to think about when you're starting a business. That's for sure. And that's where Shopify comes in. Finding the right tool that not only helps you out, but simplifies everything can be such a game changer for millions of businesses. That tool is Shopify. That's right. Get started with your own design studio. With hundreds of ready to use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store to match your brand style. You'll be able to get the word out like you have a marketing team behind you. Easily create email and social media campaigns wherever your customers are scrolling. And best yet, Shopify is your commerce expert with world class expertise in everything from managing inventory to international shipping to processing returns and beyond. If you're ready to sell, you're ready for Shopify, right? Dawson.
- [83:53]
George Gallo
Established in 2025. Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? Sign up for your $1 per month trial period at shopify.com corolla all lowercase go to shopify.com corolla to start selling with Shopify today. Shopify.com corolla stream all the movies and.
- [84:09]
G
Shows you love for free on Pluto tv.
- [84:11]
Adam Carolla
Say Wetna Showtime.
- [84:13]
G
That means drama is free with heart wrenching stories from love and basketball power and green leaf.
- [84:18]
Gary Owen
In this family we live by the.
- [84:20]
G
Spirit and laughter is free with Gut busting comedies like Pee and Peel, the Neighborhood, Everybody Hates Chris and Boomerang. Watch all the hits all for free from all your favorite devices.
- [84:32]
Dawson
Oh my God, I love it.
- [84:34]
G
Feel the free Pluto TV stream now pay never.
- [84:38]
George Gallo
Adam Carolla Comes Clean, now available from Angel Studios.
- [84:43]
Adam Carolla
Rich man, poor man. When people ask, where is he? Other people say, I think he's in his trailer. You're either George Clooney on set or you live in a tramp watch.
- [85:02]
George Gallo
Adam Corolla comes clean free on angel@angel.com Adam free. And join the Angel Guild and save 50 on your first three months at angel.com AdamCorolla Adam Carolla comes Clean, now available through Angel Studios. Let's get back to the Adam Carolla Show.
- [85:21]
Adam Carolla
A little trailer trash joke for you. Appreciate it. Trailers, you know, trailer's good. It's good. And I'll tell you why it's good. Because like, I grew up poor, but we didn't have trailer parks or trailers around where I grew up anywhere. So we just grew up in a beater piece of shit house, you know what I mean? But you don't get the street cred with the shitty house. But the trailer, yeah, the trailer. You've come a long way. You've come a long way. When you just grow up in a house that's a shithouse, it's still a house in the Valley and you don't have that come a long way thing. So trailer good for you.
- [86:04]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And it was the trailer park I lived in was every stereotypical what you think of a trailer park and to the point where, remember I was like 11 or 12 and I went across the street to the neighbor's trailer and they had a catfish like living in the bathtub. And I thought that was the coolest thing. It's like I found catfish in the bathtub and I was telling my mom, mom, I got catfish in the bathtub. Then I realized they have a one, they only got one bathroom, so nobody's getting a bath or a shower.
- [86:34]
Adam Carolla
Were they trying to keep it fresh for a couple days? I have no idea.
- [86:37]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Although they, we, we had a lake that the trailer park park I grew up on was called Island Lake Mobile Community. And we had a lake, but it was a real shitty lake. But the only fish that would come out of there was carp and bluegill, so. Or and I guess catfish because I mean that was a catfish in the bathtub. But I mean they were so hyped. Like all the neighborhood kids, like, no way. It's just swimming in the bathtub.
- [87:02]
Adam Carolla
Wow.
- [87:02]
Jason Mayhem Miller
At the time of its life.
- [87:04]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Which probably wasn't too long.
- [87:06]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [87:07]
Adam Carolla
Speaking of fish, I want to ask you guys something. Like, I was sitting around today talking about boba, which is that stupid drink that's got the tapioca snot rockets floating around in it. And then I started thinking about pokey and how boba and pokey got, like, really hot in this region at the same time. And I'm like, what the fuck? I don't like either one of these things. We didn't need either one of these things. We had smoothies. We had milkshakes. We don't need these weird, gelatinous pieces of shit rolling around in our drink. Why is this good? Who likes it? Who wants to drink? And sort of weird mucus y chew at the same time. And then pokey, same way. These are two trends I didn't see coming. I don't like, and I'm sad to have lived through them.
- [87:57]
Dawson
Opposite ends of the spectrum. One is very healthy, and the other one gives you diabetes.
- [88:02]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
- [88:04]
Adam Carolla
I don't. I just don't feel like we need either. We have sushi.
- [88:07]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [88:08]
Adam Carolla
If you're in the mood for some raw fish and some rice and some stuff like that. And we have every drink known to man. We did not need pokey. Oh, sorry, Boba. We don't need it. We don't need it.
- [88:22]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You're really upset about this.
- [88:23]
Adam Carolla
I know. I do. Because then my kids would get all fired up. They go, we want boba, you know? But they didn't even know what they were asking for. You know what I mean? Yeah.
- [88:31]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I don't like it either.
- [88:32]
Adam Carolla
Between pokey.
- [88:33]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I don't mind pokey. I don't like boba.
- [88:35]
Adam Carolla
I. I don't mind. I don't mind pokey either. I don't like boba. Don't mind pokey, but don't need poke.
- [88:42]
Dawson
No. I feel like we already have crack cocaine, milkshakes. It's like every bit of sugar, carbohydrates. You could run a marathon after you do that, but you will.
- [88:51]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Where did it come from? Japan.
- [88:52]
Dawson
Japan.
- [88:53]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Japan.
- [88:53]
Dawson
They made yogi balls.
- [88:55]
Adam Carolla
Tapioca and Taiwanese are somewhere in there. Yeah. Well, that's.
- [89:00]
Dawson
I thought it was in Japan, because when I was there, they had.
- [89:02]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Well, I.
- [89:02]
Adam Carolla
It's from Taiwan, according to what I did my research, and. Pokies from Hawaii.
- [89:10]
Dawson
Yeah. Yeah.
- [89:10]
Adam Carolla
Which is. Which is fine. Not a lot of good stuff comes out of Hawaii.
- [89:15]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I got a question.
- [89:16]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [89:17]
Jason Mayhem Miller
What's it. What's it like? Like getting, like, choked out or knocked out. Like, come. Is it like coming out of anesthesia?
- [89:26]
Dawson
It's a little bit like there's a pin drop. Then you go towards the light and you come back into reality.
- [89:34]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You don't realize you're in the ring at first.
- [89:36]
Dawson
Yeah, I win.
- [89:38]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Oh, really? Yeah. I'm always curious. That's one reason why I never got in fights. Because I think when you see two guys fighting, you always think you're the one winning.
- [89:47]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [89:47]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And I'm always like, sometimes with a.
- [89:49]
Dawson
Hammer, sometimes with a nail.
- [89:51]
Jason Mayhem Miller
But I think I gotta say, it's.
- [89:52]
Dawson
Very satisfying to put somebody slowly.
- [89:56]
Adam Carolla
I would like you to choke out the guy who brought Boba to the States. Could you find that guy and just choke him out?
- [90:03]
Dawson
Poor little Taiwanese man.
- [90:05]
Adam Carolla
All right, what do we got in the news?
- [90:07]
Dawson
Got some news. Smokey Robinson, accused of sexual assault by four former housekeepers in a $50 million lawsuit.
- [90:16]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [90:16]
Dawson
He's accused of harassing and assaulting four former housekeepers who worked at his Chatsworth home between 2006 and all the way to 2024.
- [90:26]
Adam Carolla
The problem is when the theme starts replicating itself, you know, in the sexual assault department. And that's why you always have to, like, mix your game up. If you're gonna be banging the help, you can't approach it the same way and get the same thing, because then they corroborate, you know, they go, yeah, that's what he. Like. Oh, yeah, that's. That's him.
- [90:50]
Dawson
I believe you're referring to his strategy of bringing them to the blue room and then locking the bedroom door while wearing only his underwear and neatly placing a white towel on the bed. Everyone has.
- [91:02]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I'm just saying, like, if someone were to get accused of this myself, the person goes, and. And then my woman's like, I don't know. Didn't go. Adam wanted me to blow him while I watch SportsCenter. They'd go, oh, yeah. Okay, that's. That's what he did. Like, that's the theme. The guys have the pattern. They have what they like.
- [91:24]
Dawson
Chaotic. Mix it up. If you're gonna essay somebody.
- [91:27]
Adam Carolla
Hey, you know, in the mixed martial arts game, you can't just rely on hands. You can't just rely on judo. You can't just rely on collegiate. You gotta have a well rounded game. And when you cheat with housekeepers, you gotta mix. You gotta do different rooms and different things. So the stories all fall apart.
- [91:48]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [91:48]
Adam Carolla
No, because they didn't do that and didn't.
- [91:51]
Jason Mayhem Miller
This is separate. But didn't Arnold Schwarzenegger get the housekeeper pregnant? Yeah, that was the housekeeper pregnant. Right.
- [91:57]
Adam Carolla
The craziest thing about the housekeeper pregnant story with Schwarzenegger, which he must. It made it even worse. There's only. Evidently only one photograph that exists of that woman, and that says of a. As a fat pirate. Like she's in a pirate outfit on Halloween. And that's the only photo we have. So it's not only with the bang, the help, but she was a fat pirate. They twisted the knife. It got worse because that's the only picture she. There was evidently no other photographs of this human being other than in a pirate outfit, which is weird, because I imagine in these modern times there are many pictures of her not in pirate outfits.
- [92:44]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Right. That's the first time I'd seen her. I've never seen her.
- [92:48]
Adam Carolla
That's all you get is her in a pirate outfit. Yeah. And Schwarzenegger. Yeah. It's funny, we were talking about the bit rich man, poor man, which we came in having sex with a maid is rich man, poor man. It's either Schwarzenegger in your mansion or you're married to a maid. Yeah, yeah. It's rich man Borman.
- [93:17]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah.
- [93:17]
Adam Carolla
True. Mm. All right, so four of them.
- [93:21]
Dawson
Yeah, four of them.
- [93:22]
Adam Carolla
Four. It's hard to over 18 years, explain away. Yes.
- [93:25]
Dawson
And his wife is also in the lawsuit because she perpetuated a work environment by regularly screaming at John Jane Doe for. In a hostile manner, using ethnically pejorative words and language.
- [93:38]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Do you think they were Spanish?
- [93:39]
Dawson
Yes. That's the other thing is that they use their immigration status to kind of as a bartering chip for them not to go to the cops about any of this. It was something that was ongoing. They were afraid to.
- [93:52]
Adam Carolla
You know, there's nobody who's gonna make it to the grave without being me too'd. Right. There's no legend from the past. There's no prominent. There's nobody who's not gonna get me to'd at some point before they. Wait, what's smokey? Is he 80?
- [94:07]
Dawson
Yeah, I believe 80. Let's see.
- [94:10]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Five.
- [94:11]
Dawson
Yeah, yeah.
- [94:11]
Jason Mayhem Miller
He was in the six 60s.
- [94:13]
Adam Carolla
Yes. But he's not. He's gonna get me too'd before he goes into the grave.
- [94:18]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, they got him right before he's going.
- [94:21]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [94:22]
Jason Mayhem Miller
You can't recover like, you want it done, and you want it done where you can have time to rebuild your reputation.
- [94:28]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [94:28]
Adam Carolla
The time to get me toed is junior high.
- [94:31]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [94:32]
Adam Carolla
You want to put it all in your rear view mirror, then you move on.
- [94:36]
Dawson
You're blasting girls on the bus.
- [94:38]
Adam Carolla
Whatever. Let's do it in the seventh grade. Let's get this over with and let's turn the page and let's get on with our lives. Now he's like, 85. I mean, you know, no one feels sorry for Bill Cosby. He's, like, half blind. You know, these guys are getting wheeled into court and stuff. It's just. It's a weird way to spend your leisure years, you know, Weinstein court, just getting.
- [95:04]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I'm thoroughly shocked he's still alive. He didn't look good when he was in court getting accused of this stuff. And here we are years later. Yeah. I was like, he's still kicking. He looked bad when he was going through that court case.
- [95:17]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, he did. It's also, as previously discussed on this show, they try to make you look as tame and feeble, and, yo, come on, that guy couldn't hurt a fly. You know what I mean? Like, they're.
- [95:30]
Dawson
They.
- [95:30]
Adam Carolla
They play into it a little bit.
- [95:32]
Dawson
Sweater and a collared shirt.
- [95:33]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. If you use a cane or wheelchair.
- [95:36]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [95:37]
Adam Carolla
You know what I mean? Like, they try to do nerd you up a bit. You think he could.
- [95:41]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So he's probably doing, like, tai chi in prison. Oh, yeah. Just moving around fine.
- [95:44]
Adam Carolla
Oh, yeah.
- [95:45]
Jason Mayhem Miller
He gets in there.
- [95:46]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Then he slows his roll when he. When he comes in. I mean, it's. It's all part of the game, I guess. All right, Smokey, but are they trying to get him into prison or are they just trying to get money?
- [95:57]
Dawson
Money. Yeah, they're trying to get $50 million what they're asking for. I don't know how you quantify that. Money, but yeah.
- [96:04]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Is that all the residuals from Tears of a Clown?
- [96:09]
Adam Carolla
That's one of my favorite songs of all time.
- [96:11]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [96:12]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. All right, Smokey. We wish him well. I like Smokey.
- [96:16]
Dawson
All right, next up, the Catholic Church announced the priests will be excommunicated if they follow a new Washington state law requiring clergy to report confessions about child abuse to the law enforcement.
- [96:29]
Adam Carolla
Huh? No. Yeah. Wait, so if they drop the dime on the guy who's given the confession.
- [96:36]
Dawson
Yes. The Catholic Church says they will be excommunicated. So not follow the law, but follow their customs to not break the seal of confession.
- [96:46]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So hold on, hold on. If somebody tells on the priest.
- [96:50]
Dawson
No, no. If the priest hears from the child or someone confesses to the sin, and.
- [96:57]
Adam Carolla
Then what do you do? Like, like in Terms. If you're sitting in a conventional booth and the guy's like, well, I've repeatedly raped my stepson.
- [97:05]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [97:06]
Adam Carolla
Give me 10 million Hail Mary. 1500. I mean, it's like, how do you even. That's not what it is. Oh, it's the other way. Oh, wait a minute. We got a different story.
- [97:17]
Jason Mayhem Miller
No, as a Catholic, they'll say, we.
- [97:20]
Adam Carolla
Can forgive you, but you have to turn yourself in. Okay.
- [97:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Like, that's. That's the whole thing where it's just like. You don't get absolution by saying prayer. It's just like. The only way you can get absolution is by turning yourself in. All right?
- [97:34]
Adam Carolla
So they can tell that, but they turn them in.
- [97:37]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That's way better.
- [97:38]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [97:39]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Like.
- [97:40]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [97:42]
Dawson
Self report.
- [97:43]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah. Right.
- [97:44]
Adam Carolla
I don't know. I don't know how many pedophiles go to church. I like the thing.
- [97:48]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And it's confessing.
- [97:49]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [97:50]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Because that's. That's one thing I. You can't fix. No, you're a pedophile. You're a pedophile. They should. They should do what they like. What was that Kurt Russell movie?
- [98:01]
Adam Carolla
Escape.
- [98:02]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Escape from New York, Ski from L. A? That's what you do. Just wall off a city that we don't really care about and just drop all the pedophiles in it. Be like, have fun.
- [98:11]
Dawson
An island.
- [98:12]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Pedophile. I'd already worked. Pedophile. I already worked this one out.
- [98:17]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Oh, really? My bad. Sorry about that.
- [98:19]
Adam Carolla
No, no.
- [98:20]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That's why I don't want stand up. That's why I don't want stand up.
- [98:22]
Adam Carolla
I don't do it. I don't do it.
- [98:26]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I said island, you said city.
- [98:28]
Dawson
We like to punch it up around here.
- [98:30]
Adam Carolla
No, I never. I watched a movie, Pepillon, when I was a kid, and I realized it was a true story. And in France, they would drop their criminals off in French Guyana on Devil's Island. So it's not that new a concept. They just go. I think Richard Dreyfuss, if you look it up, the actor Richard Dreyfuss had a great grandfather or even a grandfather, a family member who was like a general in the French army or something, got, I guess, framed and ended up spending his time on Devil's island in French Guyana. Like, they would take these guys who are the dregs of society, and they'd go, we don't want you here. You can go. Just. We'll drop you off over here. And they did it.
- [99:28]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Wasn't that Australia?
- [99:30]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, that's how they got started.
- [99:32]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah.
- [99:33]
Adam Carolla
That's how they began. I mean, we got a pretty rich history of just going, we don't want you here. We're gonna put you over here. And I agree with the pedophiles for sure. Richard Dreyfus great grandfather was not in prison. His great grandfather was Alfred Dreyfus, a French army officer who was wrongly accused and imprisoned. I feel like I'm correct.
- [100:00]
Jason Mayhem Miller
He was wrong in Monte Cristo.
- [100:02]
Adam Carolla
Dreyfus affair due to anti Semitism. But great grandfather was in prison. Right, but not on. You're saying not on Devil's Island. Is that what we're saying? It's a weird one, but I'm not making this up. His great grandfather was accused of something in France and was a French army officer who was wrongly accused and imprisoned in the famous Dreyfus affair due to anti Semitism, but didn't go to Devil's island or did. Cause I think at a certain time in France, if you got into trouble, they would ship you off. At least that's what I learned from watching Pepillon. All right.
- [100:42]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [100:42]
Adam Carolla
Next up.
- [100:42]
Dawson
Hey, right into that. Trump says he'll reopen Alcatraz Prison for America's most ruthless and violent offenders. Yeah.
- [100:50]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I've been there. You guys been there?
- [100:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, I've been Alcatraz.
- [100:53]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Makes sense. I mean.
- [100:56]
Dawson
I mean, are you sure? You have to retrofit a lot of stuff.
- [101:00]
Adam Carolla
There's a lot of retrofitting.
- [101:02]
Dawson
Knock some rust off that place.
- [101:04]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, I know, right?
- [101:04]
Dawson
It looks like. And then remember that the Native Americans took it over for a while.
- [101:09]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah.
- [101:10]
Dawson
So it's. I don't know.
- [101:12]
Adam Carolla
I. I've seen the movie the Rock so many times that I can tell you exactly how that place works. I could get there in a mini submarine with Sean Connery. I know the bowels of that place. Yeah, I do love it when they take over someplace. It's like this place was abandoned in 1961. Now all we have to do is time that giant fan where the flames are shooting through it. And I'm like, well, who left the gas on?
- [101:37]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, right.
- [101:38]
Adam Carolla
This place was abandoned. This place was abandoned 37 years ago. Why is there a flame shooting through the bottom of this thing? How did this get fired up?
- [101:49]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That's funny you bring up that movie. Because I was stationed. Ambie Coronado. We had a couple of the seals that was in that movie to help Sean Connery and everybody else there, but they were. They were a couple of the guys. They didn't have any lines. But they were a couple of the SEAL teams that went in and got into the Rock and everything, and they said. They had said. They. I said, you know, obviously we're asking them questions. They got back, he's like, so who was Sean Connery? Like, what was he like?
- [102:13]
Gary Owen
They go.
- [102:13]
Jason Mayhem Miller
They go. He was like, dude, we're getting ready to do some water exercise with him in the pool. He goes, he's putting foot in the water. He goes, too cold. Went right back to his trailer. Oh, really hit the pull up.
- [102:26]
Adam Carolla
Any movie. And this movie has all of them. But if you have one of these, I mean, if you have two, I'm in. But you have three, I'm in. When you hear the line, stand down. Yelled a handful of times, I'm in. When you hear we spilled the same blood and the same mud, that I'm really in. And if I hear I took an oath to protect this nation, foreign and domestic. If I hear that, I'm like, oh, I'm watching this shit out of this movie because we got rogue White House cops now. Like, whenever they pause and then they say domestic, then that's when I'm in. Yeah. Michael Bay. Mm. Yeah. So Richard Dreyfus's great grandfather, did he ever go to one of these islands? That's the question. Or did he stay states? Oh, yes.
- [103:20]
Dawson
Okay, good.
- [103:21]
Adam Carolla
I was gonna say, well, why did we not figure that out the first time? So he. Did he go to Devil's Island? Or did he go, like, French Guiana or whatever that is? I'll give.
- [103:29]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yes, Devil's Island. He went to Devil's Island.
- [103:31]
Dawson
Oh, wow.
- [103:34]
Adam Carolla
Okay. Right. About all that stuff that we're saying. Well, the screen sett. He never went to prison. And then he went to prison. Not you, Dawson. I'm just saying he went to Devil's Island. Okay, there we go. Continue.
- [103:46]
Dawson
Yeah, no, it's just that a spokesperson from the Bureau of prison said in statement the agency will comply with the presidential orders. So it's gonna happen.
- [103:55]
Adam Carolla
I. Listen, I like the new no rules part of our society where everyone's just going, what the fuck? Let's just do everything. Like, let's just put up condos in Guantanamo Bay or casino or something. I just like the everything's on the table. Ye approach to this. Anything but the business as usual. I didn't like the business as usual. Dreyfus was arrested. French army imprisoned on Devil's island in French Guyana. Everybody. And that's why Richard Dreyfus is so pissed all the time now. Yeah. Yeah, they can't. Well, they say no one's ever escaped, but then. Yeah, but then there's talk about somebody who may have escaped, but they never got to the bottom of it.
- [104:45]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Those guys, they tried to escape and they were never found. They're like, did they escape? Or. Everybody's like, well, they could have drowned. And they had, like, professional divers and swimmers try to swim off Alcatraz, and they was like, there's no way with the waves. And.
- [104:59]
Adam Carolla
But they do this all the time. They have. Every year they have the Alcatraz swim or whatever. But then someone always goes, well, if the tide doesn't get him, the sharks will. I'd be like, wait, are we doing this swim or not with all the sharks Will? Like, how do they know the difference between me and a prisoner?
- [105:15]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [105:16]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah. Like a jellyfish has no problem either.
- [105:18]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [105:19]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah. That wouldn't stop the swim.
- [105:21]
Adam Carolla
What would the. Is the Alcatraz swim?
- [105:24]
Dawson
Yeah, I don't.
- [105:25]
Gary Owen
I don't know.
- [105:25]
Adam Carolla
It doesn't go to Alcatraz, though. It must just go in the bay there. But either way, they. Yeah, open it up. I'm fine.
- [105:33]
Dawson
Yeah, I'm not.
- [105:33]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Would you rather have these condos there?
- [105:36]
Adam Carolla
I'd rather. Look, the best real estate in the world is where Manson was.
- [105:44]
Jason Mayhem Miller
San Quentin.
- [105:45]
Adam Carolla
San Quentin. Yeah.
- [105:46]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I got a buddy locked up there, and when I went to go visit him, I was like, ew, this is like million dollar view here. I mean, I'm looking out. Like, if you don't know you're in the prison and you look out, you're like, yo, this view is amazing.
- [106:01]
Adam Carolla
The drive into San Quentin is like some of the most bucolic, beautiful Southern California coastal.
- [106:10]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yes.
- [106:10]
Adam Carolla
If you took San Quentin and you let. I'd say give it to Steve Wynn and let him just do a fucking makeover on it. I mean, it's. It's incredibly valuable real estate. If you go. You go to one of these places, like the high desert, it's just scrub and burnt earth and blah, blah. But, Sam, what was your friend doing in there?
- [106:34]
Jason Mayhem Miller
It was during the three strikes. He got three strikes, and I'm only getting one side of the story, so I don't know exactly. He was my first roommate when I got to la.
- [106:43]
Adam Carolla
Well, his side is he stole a sack of Doritos and he's in. But I want to know what the other two strikes were.
- [106:49]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I don't know. I don't know what the other two were, but I asked them because I've. He's been in Folsom, San Quentin, Vacaville. And now he's in Soledad. And I visit him at all of them. And I said, you know, just say what? Which one's your favorite? And he was like, oh, San Quentin. And I said, why? He goes, because an old prisoner. It's an old prison with old prisoners. He goes, so you don't have the young boys coming in wilding out.
- [107:17]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [107:17]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So it's a very. Even though it's older, he goes, everybody there is just trying to relax and do their time. Obviously you're gonna have some shit.
- [107:24]
Adam Carolla
And you get a nice breeze too. Yeah, right. So how long's he been in?
- [107:29]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Kind of 2001.
- [107:31]
Adam Carolla
Oh, that's a while.
- [107:33]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [107:34]
Adam Carolla
So any thoughts? Any movement?
- [107:36]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I don't. He always tells me, like, I think I'm getting out, but, you know, I don't. I don't ever know. I don't know.
- [107:43]
Adam Carolla
Jesus. 25 years coming up. Wow. For stealing a sack of fun.
- [107:48]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I think he did more than that.
- [107:50]
Adam Carolla
Maybe a little more.
- [107:51]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [107:51]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. But it was cool.
- [107:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
It's. That's when it's cool to be somewhat black famous. Because the guards always look out.
- [107:57]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [107:58]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And even when I'm sitting there, the prisoners would be like, because they take their pictures, they got a guy, you gotta get like a picture chip. So the guy, you pay like $2 or something. And then you got to give them this like basically a ticket, and then you get your picture taken. So usually I'll. Before I go in, I'll. I'll pay for like three or four pictures so we can get different pictures. And then it'd be funny because when I go visit them, like, somebody will be like, yo, can we get a picture? And then it's up to the camera guy, like, you got. You got another ticket.
- [108:25]
Adam Carolla
Right.
- [108:27]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I've been in like multiple family shots with prisoners.
- [108:32]
Adam Carolla
I don't get why they need to move them around so much. I don't get that.
- [108:36]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I don't understand that either. I don't know. Either what, Moving them around from getting.
- [108:41]
Adam Carolla
Into a gang or something.
- [108:42]
Dawson
The same reason that they. Yeah, the same reason they'll move around soldiers to different barracks because you create like a tight knit gang and then it's very. You can really escape Alcatraz, you know?
- [108:57]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. Anyway, San Quentin, beautiful.
- [109:00]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That was, you know, Folsom kind of sits. I don't know, it's. It's. It's some green hills there that felt the oldest when I went to visit them.
- [109:11]
Adam Carolla
Full.
- [109:11]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Because you, You're. It's Like, I felt like I was going in the Shawshank a little bit, because that's where you're really going, through a big wall. And then. And then you got to go through, like, three different gates, and you keep getting stopped. And then.
- [109:24]
Adam Carolla
But.
- [109:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
But Folsom was the only one. We were outside the whole time, so that made a little uncomfortable because it was. It was hot. When I went and saw him, at least San Quentin and Vacaville and sold it. You're inside when you visit, so that was the only. Only drawback. And then you gotta. When you go in, you gotta wait for him to come out. So you go in the morning, they check you out. You can't. Like, I didn't know you couldn't wear blue in San Quentin, especially because they're all wearing blue. So at one point, I had to go to, like, some changing house, and I was just wearing, like, khakis and a red shirt that didn't really fit. Right.
- [109:59]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [109:59]
Jason Mayhem Miller
And then, like, when you go to.
- [110:01]
Adam Carolla
The Magic Castle and you don't have a blazer.
- [110:03]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, right.
- [110:03]
Adam Carolla
Just give you one.
- [110:04]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Just give you one.
- [110:05]
Adam Carolla
Same difference.
- [110:06]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So. But the thing is, when you get there, when you're in the visiting area waiting, you're just kind of like, what do I do? I don't want to sit somewhere because I don't know if somebody's already sitting there. And that's very territorial. Even in the waiting, even in the visiting area, they're like, if you don't tell somebody to move or scoot over, you just hope everybody's being polite. So it's awkward because it's like, literally, I'm standing for, like, 20 minutes just in the corner, and then he finally comes out. And then I'll follow him. Like, where are we sitting? But one he did tell me that was interesting. He was like. He goes, dude, I don't care what beef you got with somebody. It could be, like, a black guy and a skinhead. And they will sit next to each other when families come to visit, they will be polite. Yeah, everything. He goes, cause ain't nobody trying to mess up visiting time.
- [110:51]
Dawson
Yeah.
- [110:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
They said so. You might really be fighting this dude on the inside, but when they come to visit, all that goes. Because I swear to God, the first couple times I went there, I go, what is everybody in for? He's the most politest people I ever met in my life.
- [111:05]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [111:05]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Excuse you, man. Yeah, no problem. Oh, sorry about that.
- [111:08]
Adam Carolla
You know what I mean?
- [111:09]
Jason Mayhem Miller
He's going, nah, nobody's trying to mess up getting visits.
- [111:14]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. I remember in Con Air when Nick. I only know movies about prison. I've never really been, except for I did shoot a man show bit in prison once. That's all. That's all.
- [111:29]
Jason Mayhem Miller
In a real prison?
- [111:30]
Adam Carolla
Yeah.
- [111:31]
Jason Mayhem Miller
What prison was.
- [111:35]
Adam Carolla
Was a boring prison. It was one of these ones where they, you know, with the chain link, not the big wall, you know what I mean?
- [111:42]
Jason Mayhem Miller
There's probably like a minimum. So it was like they had killers.
- [111:45]
Adam Carolla
They had dead killers in there. But it was like all I remember is about it about a 90 minute to 2 hour van ride from like our base, from our office into the desert. So, you know, one of the desert California whatever ones. And you know, it was like, you know, it was okay, but it wasn't old school like Folsom and that kind of stuff. But that, I think that's the only time I've ever been in there. But it is weird.
- [112:17]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I don't think they do this anymore. But when I was in the Navy, if guys got in trouble on the ship, they go to captain's mass, which is like our court. And they would say, you want 30 days restriction, which means you just stay on the ship for three days or you want three days bread and water. So then I had to take them to the brig in Miramar. And it'd be funny, you be in the van with them on the way up and they'd be talking because you, if you take them on Friday, you're going to pick them up Monday.
- [112:42]
Adam Carolla
This is when you're an mp.
- [112:43]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah. So when you're driving to the base of Miramar, they're talkative, they're like, oh, Monday we're going to stop at this, we're going to stop Burger, we're going to stop at Del Taco and stuff. But then when I got to check them in to the brig, I'm the witness. So their guards are the ones strip searching them. So they're the ones taking out, shaking your hair, lift your balls up, bend over, cough, spread your butt cheeks. And I have to witness it. So I'm sitting here going, oh my God, I thought I was just dropping you off. First time I did it, that's why I was wondering why nobody wanted to do it. I'm thinking, why wouldn't you want to take the guys in the Navy van to the base? You're off the ship all day just driving around. That's why. But when you go pick them up Monday, they don't want to see you. They don't make eye Contact with you because you've done seen everything. And they're just quiet in the back of the van with their head down. I'm like, oh, you guys don't want to stop Burger King anymore? Don't stop A little taco.
- [113:41]
Adam Carolla
One guy with the huge dick, he was still talking.
- [113:45]
Dawson
Look at my starfish.
- [113:46]
Adam Carolla
That guy couldn't shut up.
- [113:47]
Jason Mayhem Miller
That was wild, though, to think about that. Because there's three days in a cell. All they have is the mattress on the floor, the sink, and the toilet, which is basically one unit. And then they have a cup so they can drink water all day from the sink. And I guess three times out of the day, they get bread for, like, 10 minutes. And you just got to eat the white bread.
- [114:11]
Adam Carolla
You know, I guess it comes down to a mindset because I was never in the service, but once my dad said, look, you need to go in your room for, like, five hours, or I'll just spank you real hard right now. You know? And I was like, let's do the spanking. Like, let's get this over with.
- [114:33]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Right.
- [114:33]
Adam Carolla
And I also. I sized him up, you know, wasn't a big guy, you know, but he gave it to me good. But I remember my mindset was like, I'll take the pain. Let's get this done. I don't want to sit in my room.
- [114:45]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [114:46]
Adam Carolla
And that. My. That mindset would have been, I'll take the three days of bread and water to avoid the one month trapped on the ship. Even though it's not that bad.
- [114:55]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Most guys took the month.
- [114:56]
Adam Carolla
I would.
- [114:57]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I would assume that because you still got entertainment. You can still eat, you can still watch TV on the ship. Yeah.
- [115:03]
Adam Carolla
You can still do open mic spots.
- [115:05]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah. You can't leave the ship. Like, you might have a family.
- [115:08]
Adam Carolla
Yeah. I'm saying I think I would be of the mindset of I'll just rot for 72 hours and get a. Get it behind me. On the other hand, if a bunch of guys got back and started talking about the strip search and all that kind of stuff, then maybe I might change my mind. But I think in general, I would take the pain, the short pain, rather than the long numb. 30 days.
- [115:33]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Because I also think three days, bread and water. You're sitting there in your cell, and, you know, there's no. There's no computers at that time. There's no phones or anything. So you're just. Literally just you. I would think you would talk to the guards at some point that are in there watching you.
- [115:47]
Adam Carolla
I would probably Write some funny jokes or. Good.
- [115:50]
Jason Mayhem Miller
I don't think they have anything.
- [115:51]
Adam Carolla
Oh, they don't get a pencil.
- [115:52]
Jason Mayhem Miller
No, I don't think they have anything. They might have a Bible. I can't remember if they had a Bible. That'd be it. But there's no special form of stuff. Yeah, there's no nothing. You're just sitting there with your thoughts.
- [116:03]
Adam Carolla
That sucks. Oh.
- [116:04]
Jason Mayhem Miller
So I would think the guards. Well, obviously they got to tell you they got to bring the bread in. I think you're trying to build a rapport with anybody at some point.
- [116:12]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, I'd have to rethink it because I was picturing me with a steno pad writing some really killing.
- [116:18]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Pacing.
- [116:18]
Adam Carolla
Just pacing.
- [116:19]
Jason Mayhem Miller
See, someone like him, he probably just do push ups.
- [116:21]
Adam Carolla
Yeah, yeah, Push ups. Squats.
- [116:24]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah.
- [116:24]
Adam Carolla
Like in Con Air.
- [116:25]
Dawson
Yeah. Do a handstand.
- [116:26]
Adam Carolla
He was doing a head working out in there in his tank top, you know. Yeah, Looking good. Nick Cage was, you know, all right. Oh, he was in the military, too. Nick Cage was in that movie Con Air.
- [116:39]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Oh, that accent. Oh, yeah, that was one of his best. I was like, oh, that's something. Exit.
- [116:46]
Adam Carolla
All right, we good? I don't think we got any more. I think that's about all we need. The special. Let's not forget the special. No ass. It's available on mintcomedy.com. we'll go there and we'll see you right on the front page. I think, when I check.
- [117:01]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I'm one of their first specials they've had. So you just. You just, you know, you're throwing stuff on the wall and see what sticks at this point. So hopefully get some good traction. And then I'll. Like I said, they're renting it for three months, and then I'll have it.
- [117:15]
Adam Carolla
Also, live shows doing standup all. All around the country. You can go to garyowen Live, right? Is that where we go for all live shows coming up, Tommy T's Comedy Club in Pleasanton, California. Then also San Antonio. Laugh out loud comedy as well. Gary, good to see you, my friend.
- [117:34]
Jason Mayhem Miller
Thank you, man. Well, I'll see you next year. Yeah, we're doing this once a year type deal. Kid Rock, you know this.
- [117:40]
Adam Carolla
You got Adam Kroll. I can't. For all my live shows. Until next time, Sam Kroll with Gary Owens and. Oh, oh, n. Sorry, not Gary Owens and George Gallo and Mayhem saying, mahalo. Pick up your phone.
- [117:55]
George Gallo
Leave us a voicemail. The phone number is 888-634-1744. After you leave that message, go get tickets to see the ace man@adamkoro.com.
- [118:13]
G
Stream all the movies and shows you love for free on Pluto tv. Say what now?
- [118:18]
Gary Owen
Showtime.
- [118:19]
G
That means drama is free. With heart wrenching stories from love and basketball power and Greenleaf in this family we live by the spirit and laughter is free. With gut busting comedies like Key and Peele, the Neighborhood, Everybody Hates Chris and Boomerang. Watch all the hits all for free from all your favorite devices.
- [118:38]
Dawson
Oh my God, I love it.
- [118:39]
G
Feel the free Pluto tv. Stream now. Pay never.