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Why Cats Are Superior, Why Bidets Rule & Fixing Colleges | Liz Miele + Christopher Rufo
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In this episode, funny comedian Liz Melay joins us. Christopher Ruffo, conservative activist, interesting guy, joins us. Rudy Pavich is back. He's doing the news and we'll do all that right after this. Adam Carolla returns to New York City Thursday, October 9th at Rodney Dangerfield's Comedy Club with Cat Timpf and Matt Friend. Two shows October 9th and then don't miss the Ace man in Pottstown, Pennsylvania on Friday, October 10th and Saturday, October 11th at Joel's. Adam returns to Flappers in Burbank on October 29th. Get tickets for these and every show@adamcorola.com this September, CBS Hits are streaming free on Pluto TV. I'm coming in for this month only. You can watch full seasons of the CBS shows you love. From the courtroom drama of Matlock to the heroics of Fire Country. Go back to where it all began in NCIS Origins or watch the hilarious hauntings of ghosts, all for free. Full seasons of the CBS shows you love this month only on Pluto tv. Stream now. Pay Never.
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It's good. It's kind of an experiment for me. I've put Almost all my specials out on YouTube with pretty good success. But my last special, I called my cat. Can I curse?
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Go ahead.
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Called my cat a C. And I got penalized for hate speech on YouTube. On YouTube, no context. Even though if you met my cat, I'm correct. And so they took away my ads, which also took away my reach. And so this time going forward, because I got it back eventually, but it took months. So going forward, now I'm selling it for pay what you want on Punch up. And Punch up is super supportive of comics. Think of it like Mailchimp meets YouTube meets your website with all your tour dates and stuff.
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A
Yeah. And they tell people, their audience, when people are coming to town or their community, when the comedians they like are maybe coming out. I mean, it's good.
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Yeah, no, I'm necessary. I'm a huge supporter of it. I know the owner, the guy that started it. And like, I asked for pay what you want? Like, that was like. I was like, can you code this? Because he was like, well, just ask for a price. I was like, this is hard times. And I think, you know, I'm going from free to. To money. And I think I have. And honestly, I've been very lucky. My fans, there's people that are paying way more than the $5 suggestion. And yes, there's people paying a dollar, but I think the ability for people to see my stuff is what's most important to me.
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Yeah, I agree. I mean, getting your stuff out there, provided your stuff is not shit. Yeah, I try to, but getting your stuff out there is kind of the name of the game versus being compensated for your stuff. Because the compensation will come when people gravitate toward your stuff and vibe with your stuff.
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For sure. I think the reason I changed what was working for me is because every single special, I've grown my fan base, and most of the money I make is people coming to see me. But because this one, it has like almost 600,000 views, so it's weird to call it a flop. But because this one was a flop compared to my others, I didn't grow things. Less people are coming out to shows regularly, and I just needed a way to actually pay myself back for producing these specials.
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So you brought up your cat because the cat. It's a funny cat washer dryer story in the clip. In the comedy clip from the special. So you're cat centric?
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I'm a cat lady. Well, the last time I was here was I was promoting my book, why cats are assholes.
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A
Yes, that's right. Listen, I'm one of the few dudes that loves cats.
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They're perfect. They're a perfect animal. They're both funny and stupid.
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For being a cat lady, though, calling them assholes. And do you definitely have a vendetta against the cat community?
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Cause I know them.
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Oh, okay.
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That's how I feel about family members. I say it because I know them.
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Yeah. You know, the rap community handles the N word the way we would handle it. Not the community might be different than theirs.
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C
I got you.
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A
Yeah, same. Same difference.
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Streets regulate themselves when it comes to the cats.
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And I also like because my books written in love like, they're assholes. But I explain why they behave the way they do. Both my parents are veterinarians. I love them my whole heart. Like right now. I haven't been around my cats for like a week now, and I miss them. And I watch them on a little camera being stupid and breaking my stuff. I love them so much.
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Do let's see if we can drill down. Because I talk to people who don't like cats and their dogs lovers, and I feel like they tell on themselves because they say, like, I go, I like cats. I like dogs too, but I've always liked cats. And they go, oh, I don't like cats. And I go, why not? They're not enthusiastic when you come home. They don't come in and love on you and make you feel special. And I'm like, are you the most insecure person in the world that you need this thing with the fucking brain the size of a. Of a peanut to, like, show, to validate you all day? And by the way, let me tell you how a dog works. You could have just brutally raped a teenager in an alley and come home and that dog be wagging his tail going, who's the best? You're the best. So I don't know. I like discerning.
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B
Yeah. No, the cat would come back and be like, what did you do?
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Yeah, I know you're up to something. I smell runaway on your hands, you pedophile. Yeah, the cat would know. I also think, well, the cat being like, I'm not going to show any affection because I'm not taking any chances because he may have come home from a long day of work or he may have brutally raped or run away in an alley. Let's not.
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Let's figure it out.
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Let's not roll the dice.
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But I also think. I think the stereotypes are ridiculous because my cats do greet me at the door. My cats are the most loving cats I've ever. I think you get what you, you, you get what you earn as opposed to a dog has just set it and forget it. You know what I mean? So, like, I, I feel, I feel like I, they were both very sweet cats, but I also feel like I raised sweet cats.
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A
Yeah.
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So I, I always feel like when somebody says they don't like cats, it's like, well, you haven't even opened yourself up to liking them. Like, you've already, you've already taken the stereotypes, decided, and moved on. I love dogs. I love dogs. I like lizards.
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Yeah. Rudy was telling me about the gay lifestyle, but sort of the same theme. You just haven't really, you just got to drop your guard and really opened yourself up to the possibilities.
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Yeah.
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You have to put yourself on the road.
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We're having some drinks, and I sort of appreciated it, but I felt it was a little, you know, in the green room. Maybe not the right place to bring it up.
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He was wondering why I had all that peanut butter in the green room. And I was like, well, I just picked up my new puppy, and then that's where the conversation started. Yeah. Yeah.
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So I, I, I agree. Most people don't like cats. Never lived with a cat or had much time.
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Yeah.
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Spent a lot of time with cats.
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Kind of a perfect roommate. Like, you can, like, especially since almost everything I have for my cats is automatic. Like, have an automatic feeder and a robot litter box. Like, I, like, my brother checks in on him when I'm gone, but, like, they're in, like, a water fountain. Like, I really have, like, kind of the best cat.
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A
The robot litter box sounds awesome. Until it gets artificial intelligence and comes for you.
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B
Oh, for sure.
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I know that day's coming.
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I mean, the fact that they can tell me which cat took a shit.
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Is already spooky backing up and the Roomba slides in and blocks you. They're talking back and forth like, you. Yeah. All the time on the road, they got to know each other.
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Yeah.
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Now they got a plan.
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Yeah. No, and then they, they lock in.
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Oh, yeah.
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Who's the asshole now?
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That's right.
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They've read, They've read my book. It's on my book.
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Who's been in my mouth for a fortnight. Now it's payback.
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B
I do tend to put googly eyes. Like, I have a robot vacuum that I named Vac Kilmer and has googly eyes. I like, I do tend to, like, name everything and put googly eyes. And I do think when that shift Happens. I'm going to be like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I did this. Like, I made you. I made you human. Like, yeah.
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You're going to be like one of the good ones.
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I hope so. I mean, I really do try to keep my robot clean.
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Yeah. So you got the Roomba too?
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Yeah, I have everything that's robotic. Like, I don't want to do anything. Like, I've really learned.
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Can't imagine what's in the nightstand. As long as we're going down this route, I can only picture the arsenal.
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So we call Val Killer.
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I'm a lazy person and I stand by that. But I think at the end of the day, anything that can be replaced and done better than I would ever do it because I have two cats. I set my little vacuum cleaner for once a day and people are just like, oh, cats are gross. Dah, dah, dah. I was like, not my place. I have a robot that does all that.
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I used to do this bit, which is. I bought one of those things like 10 years ago. Those things are like 1400 bucks. Like the good one. And I had the dog in the thing and the thing, and I would come home like after about a month and there'd be dog hair everywhere. And I would say to my ex wife, I'd go, what is going on? Like, I spent 1400 bucks. Why isn't this thing making the rounds and doing the whatever? And she said, well, it turns out you gotta recharge it and you have to empty the pan in it too.
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And you're like, what is the point?
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And I said, are you telling me we're too lazy to own a robot? Because that's. I'm hearing we are so fucking lazy that we've been defeated by a robot because we'd actually have to do something to maintain this robot. And that's basically what happened. It never panned out. Pardon the pun.
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We're a few years away from Rosie the Robot from the Jetsons, so until then, we still have a little bit of work we have to do.
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Yes, I'm trying to teach my cats to empty the litter pants. That's the real goal.
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Yeah, I used to do this bit too where I was saying we're getting into the sex robots. Yeah, they're back, they're out, and they're getting good. I mean, there should have been a class action lawsuit that was brought on by the purchasers of the old school sex doll, because the old school sex doll on the box had a picture like Marilyn Monroe. And then Inside was a raft with essentially a hole in the mouth. Like it was a lipstick around a hole at one end. And it was just literally an inflatable. Just an inflatable. I don't even call it a woman. It was, it was a raft with a hole with lipstick around it. Like, it did not resemble, like if there was a food version of that. Like, if you're looking at the outside of a ramen box or something and you open it up, there's a spit at the bottom of it.
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You'd be like, just tic tic tac.
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Fuck is this? Like, I am suing the shit out of this company.
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So you're telling me they make women versions of those things?
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Son of a bitch.
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I didn't know.
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Yeah, they make innies. They're not all Audi. But now they have like $10,000 Japanese sex robot.
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Sure. But like in this day and age where the Internet like unboxing is like, you can make millions of dollars on YouTube just un. I would just wait for the sex doll unboxing and to be like, okay, it doesn't look like a raft.
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Oh yeah, they're. They're good looking now.
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I would just worry with the legit sex robots that like, think of how many times things have like broke. You know what I mean? And they're like, they don't. Their grip is. Now I'm just worried about things snapping off.
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Catastrophic failure.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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The thing goes nuts and it gets wet. I know the whole point is that the. It's probably waterproof, jizz proof, whatever, but like, I'm just worried that it gets in a little nook and cranny. It short circuits. You now have to walk around with like a sex doll holding your.
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Dude, my thing more is the bit I used to do is there is no stashing of the six foot blonde. You know, you used to be able to stash porn. You could hide stuff. You know, you could put stuff between the mattress and the box spring and it's like when we had porn back in the day. You'd have to like put at the bottom of your sock drawer and put a bunch of socks over it and stuff like that. Vibrator magazines, DVDs. You could stash stuff. There's no stashing this.
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I mean, I would hope if you can afford a sex robot, you can afford a closet. Am I right?
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Yeah, you got a closet. But at some point you meet a woman and then you're in the shower and she's like, where's the bathrobe? And this thing falls on her. Yeah, right. She's the maid. Somebody's gonna see it. No, you don't have to put it in the living room. But it's somebody like. Let's just say you had kids. They would find the sex robot.
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Am I wrong for saying this purchaser, this mystical purchaser should get their life together if they have kids and a wife and a sex doll?
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Well, I don't. They could be single dad.
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Single dad.
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Lonely single dad.
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Okay. Oh, is this the original? Oh, I had some eyeshadow. That's nice.
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Inflatable Judy. Now, I mean, you look at the picture, the drawing on top of the beautiful waif model wearing the negligee, and then you get to this pool raft and not so much.
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C
I just picture a dad walking out to his pool and his kids are just floating on his sex doll.
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I mean, this is $22. This is what you get. I feel like that's.
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C
Yeah. Also, not to critique it too much, but I noticed that there's no hole in the mouth, so I'm wondering where that other hole might be. Oh, and I don't notice one on the bottom there.
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A
You need. You need Andrew. You need old school inflatable. This is sort of novelty new school. By the way, I don't know if you noticed, but three people have already put this in their shopping garden. Now, what does that mean? Three people today? Yeah.
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B
It's like it's there and they're just saving up.
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They haven't pulled the trigger yet. It's sitting there.
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They're counting things, thinking about it.
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They're comparing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you gotta go out. When you're looking at sex dolls, you gotta go out chin kicking, I call it. That used to be tire kicking if you're buying a used car. But you gotta look around, test drive.
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It's a cottage industry, really.
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Warranties. Yeah. Important things like that.
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The people who they're talking about, like, you know, what if your sex doll breaks? Maybe that is the next AI proof job is sex doll mechanic.
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Oh.
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Like, you know what I mean? Like.
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Like how everybody's fixing E bikes in New York. Like, that's like the real job.
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That's the new thing. Yeah.
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All right.
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Yeah. Yeah. You get someone from.
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And then you have to. You have to call somebody. Like when somebody has an iPhone that breaks and be like, what was it? And it's just like, we found, like, extra hair in there. Like, is that. Is that your.
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Like, yeah. What? Said it was dishwasher safe. I couldn't Fit the bitch in.
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Then you need a robo to clean your robot. See, it's getting complicated.
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Roomba sex.
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A sex Roomba doll or it's just all a combo. I think we're talking about a maid.
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Yeah, well, I have. I know the thing about the maids is they're still humans and they still judge. Maybe it's in a different language, but there's judgment going on.
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Yeah.
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And I feel weird about my maid. One of the many places I just mean in my world of sex doll ownership, even if it's in the closet, at some point the maid is putting the towels away and has to get around the sex doll and it's in its robot. And then it's weird. We may not discuss it. It's just I have to pass her in the hallway at some point.
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I just feel from what I know about gross men, this is the least thing that anybody would judge them for. Like, if they're already cleaning your toilets.
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But don't you think. Don't you think they're going to be guys who are affluent and get the $10,000 sex doll? Sort of like they would have the cold dunk tank and the high end sauna and stuff? Like, they will spend money on themselves.
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I think what's interesting about that is, like, who do you complain to? Like, who's writing the review that was like, I got this $10,000 sex doll and it broke immediately.
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Well, my theory or my plan to overcome this issue is it's a. It's an automated look, it can suck a dick. It'll do doggy. You know, it's good. Why can't it mow a lawn?
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Sure.
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Why can't it do tasks? Skim the pool. You know, if you can take some dick, you can skim a pool. My grandpa used to. We've seen the bumpers.
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That's actually what it says on the packaging.
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A
Yeah. The whole point is, is then when the maid comes over, it's like, oh, no, that's not a. That's a hot pool chick. But that's a robot. I got to clean the pool and nothing else.
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B
Are you banging the pool robot is what I hear.
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You know? No, I have plausible deniability. Yeah. You don't know what goes on after the pool's been skimmed.
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Listen, that's why I dressed it up in your clothes with airtag with your name.
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Yeah, yeah. I put her in an egg lashe because it's hot out. All right. Yeah. And I get it. Stiletto heels aren't exactly the greatest shoe to skim a pool in. But let's stop the judgment here.
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I honestly think we've solved a lot of problems.
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We're gonna solve this. You're just going to have to give us plausible deniability by having something else that this woman does. That's all.
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Yeah. All right, we'll put it on the packaging.
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Yeah, well, first we need whoever's in the Chinese lab to get to work.
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B
I think they're on it.
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A
You think they're on it, truthfully?
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Because they've already been talking about it for years. I think just like anything, like, you know, the flat screen TVs came out and they were like thousands of dollars. We just need to get it down to 22, obviously.
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Sex dolls. According to my screen, the demand ramped up after World War II. So I guess all those young guys coming home from the European theater in asia and in 1968, the first AD for sex doll ever was published come.
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C
Back from fighting the Nazis.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good way to deal with your ptsd, I guess, is to blow off a little steam. You know what I mean?
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B
I just a part of me, like, I don't think there's anything wrong with the sex doll. Like, if that's.
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A
You're saying how creepy it was.
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I just. I mean. Well, I don't want to. Well, I don't want to be spooked by it. I don't want to be spooked.
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That's my point. We don't want to be surprised by sex robot.
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B
But I also think if my whole thing is if. If this robot raft is the thing that keeps women safe, I'm fine with it. You know what I mean? If this is the reason, like, if you. If whatever you need to do to this thing keeps women safe, that's fine by me. I also don't think you should judge anybody's kinks. Maybe they just don't. I'm a talker, so if you don't want a talker, this isn't the person to have sex with. So I get that you need somebody silent that does their lipstick. I do neither.
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A
So I'm a tuner outer. So could I wear, like, noise canceling headphones or something?
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B
That's a conversation you gotta have with your partner and. Or robot.
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C
Yeah, don't lie.
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B
I mean, it's gonna come off a.
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A
Little autistic, but I'm a tuner outer. Sportscenter watcher.
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C
Yeah.
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A
So if I get with a talker.
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B
What if the talker is updating you? On what's happening in the game.
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A
Oh. Like doing it in a play by play voice.
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B
Yeah.
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A
We're oriented in such a way where I can't catch the screen. Yeah. If you're giving me like calling balls and strikes and that kind of stuff. Playoff time. I think we could do that. Yeah.
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B
I'll take the right.
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A
Right talk.
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C
Yeah. That's like that old joke, like why Canadians do a doggy style so they can both watch the hockey game. That's what I come for.
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B
Or are these the robots?
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A
Yeah, I guess they are.
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C
Oh, wow.
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B
Why are they all about to wrestle? Don't they look like they're about.
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They look like they're in the prone position now. I know. The funny thing is, is there's a template for these things, you know, and as much as we try to. Dove tries to convince us that Lizzo has hot. There's not going to be any Lizzo shaped robots. Although I'd be interested. We're going to eventually have to start branching out into every kind of kink and every kind of desire, I guess.
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B
Also when you have like AI, it gets paired with AI. Right. And now you have somebody that's just like, I will skim the pool.
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A
Yeah. At a certain point.
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B
Ooh, purple.
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At a certain point, people are gonna start fighting with the robots and the robots are gonna have periods and it's gonna start happening. Right. They start leaking hydraulic fluid out of the machine.
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You know, Creepy.
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All right. So they're gonna have these. And I don't really know what the implications are, but it's not gonna be good, I don't think.
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I just love that I talked about a robot litter box and it led us to sex robots. I was just like, this thing eats shit. And let me tell you what also eats shit.
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A
Maybe I could combine the two. Cause if it was a robot litter box as well, then I could justify having it in the entry hall.
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Absolutely. And then you can be like, really? Like, we have two and a half baths, so don't ask questions.
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A
So I used to have this cat theory that goes way back, way back to loveliness, man. Like over 25 years ago. And I never turned it to a bit. And everyone thought it was a bit, but I wasn't really a bit. But I'll lay it on you. Cats versus dogs. And then Rudy can think about it has bit potential to it, which is I've done it spontaneously on stage on occasion, everyone likes it, and then I never do it again. But it's basically the thought that women are sort of cats and men are dogs sexually. And that men get themselves into trouble when they treat a woman sexually the way they want to be treated, because it doesn't translate. And so I would say, guys, don't think of a dog. Like I grab my lab and I throw him on his back and I just start. And I like grab his ears and start tugging on his paws are slapping. I'm like, I literally wrestle him to the ground and he loves it. And he's a dude and he's a dog and he's a lab and he digs it. But that'd be horrible with a cat. So I always say, the cat, what do you do with the cat? Well, the cat, you sit down and you ignore the cat for a while and then at some point the cat will come up to you. And when the cat does, don't reach, don't grab, don't do anything sudden, they're in charge. Let the cat start applying a little pressure, like to your shin. They'll let you know what they like. And you can sort of push back a little with the shin just to give them a little more friction. But they're gonna let you know. But if you come in like cats, if a three year old comes running into the room, they get on top of the refrigerator. Cause they don't want anything to do with that kid too much.
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B
Same, by the way.
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A
Yeah, I'll get on the fridge with you. But, but sexually, the dog and women, guys like, they like the dog treatment. They went the fast, they went the friction, spit in the hand, like whatever it is. But guys to women, do the cat, no big moves, no sudden moves, don't get up and run across the room. Just sit there, let it sort of come to you. And then eventually they'll let you know what they like. They'll let the pressure know and you're.
- [25:56]
B
There to do it like you earned it. Like, there's something about being like me and my sister. Like when a cat comes over and sits in your lap, you're like, oh, I can't do any. I've been chosen. And I just, I don't understand. And maybe this is just somebody that's like. Because I've worked hard in comedy or whatever and I feel like each step I've made, I've earned it. I'm just, it feels, doesn't it feel better to be like, oh, I earned this cat? I mean, cat love is earned.
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A
Yes. And again, it's not universal like it is with a dog. He'll just love up on on anybody all the time. But then there's people that are like, well, that's why I like dogs.
- [26:35]
B
And I think that's fine. And I hope. I hope you find that in a woman. I really do. I think there's. I. I truly do think there's dog women and there's cat women. Just, like, there's dog men and there's cat men. I have a cat. My boyfriend is a cat guy. Both literally likes cats and very much is like, oh, hi. Like, it's just like, I just. There's a part of you that's like, I think what. However you serve, like, the job that you do, the people you surround yourself with, the animals that you love, they all kind of set a presentation how you like to be treated and how you treat other people. And I think that is true. So at some point, do I like dogs? Do I absolutely want a little wiener dog? Of course I do. But I also don't want to get up early and walk it. I'm lazy, and you have to know that. And I think the same with having, like, a boyfriend that does his own thing and is very independent. Like my cats is, like, the reason our relationship works.
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C
Yeah. That's what. My girlfriend very much so like a cat. She also shits in a box, so it's very. That's why we're. She knows.
- [27:30]
B
How is the toilet any different than a box?
- [27:33]
C
I agree.
- [27:33]
B
It's a flushable box.
- [27:34]
C
We're wasting water here.
- [27:36]
B
I don't want to know.
- [27:37]
A
What's the difference between a urinal in the sink? That's my question. When you're six, two, nothing. When you're Rudy's height, It's the Grand Canyon.
- [27:45]
C
Not only did I pee into this urinal sink today, but I also got a good face wash afterwards. It's amazing. I'm telling you, that thing as soon as I saw it. I heard you talking about it the other day. If you don't know what we're talking about. Adam installed a urinal sink into the bathroom here. So it's a urinal on the bottom, sink on top.
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B
Oh, it's very, like, Japanese.
- [28:03]
A
Yeah. Sufficient.
- [28:04]
C
I gave it the maiden voyage. My maiden voyage. This. This afternoon when I got here. That's a game changer, man. That is the sign of a maiden, man right there. Look at it.
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A
Yeah.
- [28:13]
C
That's amazing.
- [28:14]
A
Yeah.
- [28:14]
B
What I'm noticing is no soap or towels, which is a real urinal vibe.
- [28:18]
A
I just installed. I just installed it. So I have to pull out the old mechanism and patch some Stuff and, you know, put some stuff on there.
- [28:27]
B
Is that the age that you're at? That you're just like, I made a big purchase. I made a sink urinal purchase today.
- [28:33]
C
Yeah.
- [28:33]
A
I bought it several months ago, like, maybe almost a year ago. And it just sat in the back of the studio.
- [28:40]
B
I love an impulse urinal buy.
- [28:43]
A
I've been. Well, so I've always been a sink peer. I've always peed in the sink. And. Yeah. Cause it's cleaner. I mean, my sink, but I'm tall enough to do it. And then you just shoot a little water there, and it just goes away. And then everyone kind of gets weirded out. They go like, whoa, whatever. But it's like it just goes in the same place. It goes down the same drain, and I don't care. And then also, Dr. Drew told me urine was sterile a long time ago. So I was like, all right, so it's on. I don't really care.
- [29:14]
C
Liz, you're up to three bathrooms now.
- [29:17]
A
I love this.
- [29:18]
B
I have so many sinks.
- [29:20]
C
Yeah.
- [29:21]
A
Again, it's like a height. It worked well. And also, I'm a multitasker. I don't like to just stand over the toilet and pee. I like to brush my teeth or something while I'm taking a whiz. I feel like I'm getting something done.
- [29:34]
B
Okay.
- [29:35]
A
So when I found out about the sink with the urinal at the bottom of it, I was intrigued. And then it turns out they do not ship them to California. I don't know what goes on in California, but they won't ship them to California. So you have to. I got someone to know, a guy. I know a guy in Nevada, and it got shipped to Nevada. And then at some point, it got driven over here, and then it sat in the back of the shop, and then I de Boxed it. I should have filmed myself.
- [30:06]
B
You really should have.
- [30:07]
A
And we threw this thing up earlier today, and we still got a little more work to do, but. Yeah, and then Rudy christened it.
- [30:15]
C
Yeah. Well, you know, they got the Christmas party coming up here. You're going to have to put urinal and sink. Put a sign, because I think somebody might mistake the top part for.
- [30:23]
B
Or they think it's like the two guys. Like, one's going low, one goes high.
- [30:26]
A
Well, when people drink, they hit the sink. I know. I sound like one of OJ's attorneys. When you drink, you got to hit the sink. I'll tell you what, if I see a pot of piss in the sink, that thing's up about 36 height. Now I'll just wander around the party and look for any dude six three or over and pull him aside. Rudy, you're cool?
- [30:51]
C
I'm good.
- [30:52]
A
Yeah. I'll know who did this.
- [30:54]
B
I mean, I'm proud of you, knowing what you want now I know what.
- [30:57]
A
I want out of a story.
- [30:58]
B
You're just like. I just. I want it to be a combo. Have you been to Japan and, like, experienced the toilets of magic that they have?
- [31:05]
A
I have, yes. I mean, sorry, no. I have brought that experience stateside, not to the fullest effect, but the regal Royal Hotel in Manhattan. This would have been circa like 2000 or something. Like 2001. And I was staying there, and I was doing Stern, and maybe Jimmy was with me. And I walked in to the bathroom and saw the toilet with the buttons and the hose and everything, and I was like, like, what? What is that? I mean, from North Hollywood, you know, we had one. Every house I lived in had one bathroom. And no two bath, no anything. No, like, no kitty litter box, no sex robots, nothing good, you know? And our toilets were, like, worn out. Like, the fake wood grain was worn off. Your ass wore it off. You know, it's just weird beige spots where your ass cheeks were. And it was wafer thin and plastic. And I sat on it and I was like, oh, what have we here? And I just pushed a button. But that was a leap of faith in 2001. Like, you're sitting there, pants down, and you're just gonna push a button with a picture of a seal on it, you know? And I'm like. And I put. I was like, oh, my God. And I immediately called Jimmy in his room, and I'm like, jimmy, have you hit the toilet?
- [32:23]
B
Yeah. Do you have a fountain toilet?
- [32:24]
A
He's like, I'm fucking my sex robot. Call me back. I said, you gotta hit that toilet. And he's like, what do you mean? I go, this is. They have a toilet seat that shoots water in here. And he's like, what? He went. So then the next day I saw him. It's a toilet seat. He's like, oh, my God. By the way, he would buy me a toilet seat that shot water, like, every year for my birthday. That's beautiful. After that. I know, it's beautiful.
- [32:48]
B
That's a beautiful friendship.
- [32:50]
A
Well, you know, people are like, you disagree with him politically. But I was like, we do agree on one thing, and that's hot water shooting up my ass that we can come together.
- [33:00]
B
Well, I went to Japan. I was Touring there. I want to say 2019. And it's like public toilets, like, you know what I mean? Like, you go to a. Like, public toilets have all the buttons. They have, like, birds, which I think is so funny. Cause the birds are trying to cover up, you know, you pooping. But it's like, if birds are happening, you know, poop is happening.
- [33:17]
A
Oh, I see.
- [33:18]
B
But, you know, it has all the buttons. And then we would stay at these Airbnbs. The floors are heated. Oh, that's my only dream, is to have heated floors. The floors are heated. The toilet seat's heated. As a cold. Like a cold person, even when it's 90 degrees outside. I was like, I love this so much. And then just. I just. I don't. I don't know what those toilets did to me, but that's been my life goal. And they're starting to come into. Now that you can, like, add them to your toilet, they're starting to come into vogue. But like, a Japanese toilet is. You can't go back.
- [33:47]
A
Yeah, first time.
- [33:48]
B
It's the first class of toilets.
- [33:49]
A
Yeah, I agree.
- [33:50]
C
The first time I stayed at a nice hotel with a bidet, I called my ex girlfriend and I'm like, this place has got everything, you know, it's got the sauna downstairs, got the steam room. It's even got a footage foot washer in the bathroom. And she's like, a what? I'm like, I swear to God, you put your foot in here and then you hit the button and it shoots. It, like, cleans off your foot. She's like, idiot. They shoot that in your ass. I was like, no, they don't. She's like, yes. I had no idea what a bidet was.
- [34:13]
A
Well, everybody should gift themselves the gift of the toilet seat. That's the bidet toilet seat. But I do want to caution people. And there's like, this is a part of life. And it just sort of happened when I was installing my urinal sink toilet thing, which is, look, you can spend 300 bucks and get the thing or whatever. That doesn't mean there's an outlet on the wall next to it. And that doesn't mean there's a water supply to it. You gotta do some work beyond that. And I think a lot of people go, just take. I build houses all the time. So people go, like, just take the sink and put one here or whatever. I go, there's no drain, there's no sewage. We're gonna have to cut into the slab and tear it up and find the Main line and stuff. Like, it's not just putting it on. It's making it functional. And. Yeah, you gotta get water supply and you gotta get power, too. And I don't know. I'm trying to picture. I can't remember the power you can find if you get creative. Like, I had a wall that had a socket on the other side of the bathroom wall. It wasn't in the bathroom. It was the wall. But on the outside, it was in my office. And I literally just cut the head off the power, drilled a hole, went right through the wall, put the head back on, taped it up, and plugged it in and just did it that way. Wow. Jerry rig. Or there's another kind of rig too, but we won't say that one. But either way, it's a little lame. But I didn't want to bust open the wall and run the power and do all the things. Took me five minutes. And it worked. So you can figure it out. And I'm pretty sure you can pull water off the toilet supply. I'd be curious. Yeah. I mean, obviously there's a water. There's something called an angle stop coming out from the wall where you shut the water off to your toilet if you have to. And there's some sort of adapter.
- [36:13]
C
I think we had, like a Y adapter or a T adapter that came off the back of the toilet that gave the water supply to it.
- [36:19]
A
So worth it. Game changer. And in sort of the pantheon of things that make a difference and things that don't make a difference, this is worth your 300 bucks. And whatever the TaskRabbit guy charges to come over and install it or whatever that is, it's worth it. Cause you'll use it every day. Yeah.
- [36:36]
B
And it actually does, like. I don't know. It makes things. It just makes you feel better. It makes you feel fresher. My favorite story, though. This happened. I was staying with my boyfriend's friend in Utah, and they had, like, a bidet toilet. And, you know, it has, like. They now have, like, remote controls and stuff. And I was like, okay. And so I use it, and I cannot figure out how to turn it off. Like, can. I'm touching every single button. It's going, like, everything that could happen with this toy. It's not turning off. We've been there for, like, two hours. I don't know these people. I'm losing my mind. I'm so scared. I don't know them well enough that I'm so scared I'm gonna stand up and, like, water's gonna go everywhere. So I. All I could think was to unplug it. So I unplugged it and stopped it. And then I was so scared. I was able to put the toilet seat, because I was so scared I was gonna plug it back in. I was just gonna have my same issue or whatever. But it took me, like, two days to, like, own up to it to my boyfriend. I was like, hey, I got stuck in the bidet toilet.
- [37:27]
A
Yeah.
- [37:28]
B
Be careful out there.
- [37:29]
A
I don't know. Yeah, interesting. I feel the same way. Like, a lot of weird shame about something you shouldn't have weird shame about. But I would feel the same way as you.
- [37:38]
B
He made me feel better. He's like, I'm really proud of you for unplugging the toilet.
- [37:41]
A
He was like, that was smart.
- [37:42]
B
I was like, yeah. I was like, I didn't want to get water everywhere. I didn't want to get water everywhere in this place I've never been to.
- [37:47]
A
There was a remote. The one. Even the first gen one Jimmy got me when I was back at my old house, I mean, literally 25 years ago, had a remote, a battery operated remote. But I was like. I used to look at it, and it was mounted. Had a little cup thing, a little receptacle. You put it on, stick it to the wall. But I thought, but a TV needs a remote. Because I'm over here and the TVs across the room, and I want a channel surf. And then their garage doors need a remote. But if there's anything that doesn't need a remote, it's this. Because there's no possibility of me, like, I'll be in the next room. While I'm shitting in that room, I'll jump. Sitting there, just put the fucking button. It'd be kind of like if they said you got the remote to move your car seat and be like, well, the button's on the car seat. Car seat. So why do I need this? And it opens it up for tomfoolery.
- [38:52]
B
Absolutely.
- [38:53]
A
Because somebody gets hold of that remote.
- [38:55]
B
Yeah. And it's at a setting that you aren't emotionally or physically ready for.
- [38:58]
A
Yeah. They put it on Geyser.
- [39:01]
C
Old Faithful.
- [39:01]
A
Old Faithful. And it's in the next room, and you're looking around for the remote, and next thing you know, pow. Right in the kisser. Yeah.
- [39:09]
B
And half the buttons, I swear, I don't know.
- [39:11]
A
I don't even know if they are.
- [39:12]
B
I have no idea. Yeah. I cannot.
- [39:14]
C
Why does this one have a flame? On it.
- [39:16]
B
Yeah, yeah. Oh, no.
- [39:19]
A
So changing gears, I was in here doing a podcast, a Beat it out podcast, which is something I do on Substack. But I was in here with Dustin Ybarra and we were having a laugh and he brought up. I think he brought up the stocks or he said, you know those old time wooden things where they put you in the middle of town, put your arms through and put your head through.
- [39:45]
B
Oh, like when you go to like. Yeah, like, like you're like a fake prisoner or whatever.
- [39:50]
A
Yeah, they were real prisoners.
- [39:52]
C
Yeah.
- [39:52]
B
Oh, oh. So this is like a real town and they're like, hey, we used to do this and we also still do this.
- [39:57]
A
No, I'm just saying the old timey stocks, that they used to do it.
- [40:01]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [40:02]
A
Like they had it and then they.
- [40:04]
B
Still have it in town to be like.
- [40:06]
A
Well, no, I'm not saying we. I'm just saying remember the old stuff, not the new stuff. I mean, let's see.
- [40:12]
B
I'm so confused. Are we in a town?
- [40:14]
A
Well, no, I'm saying there's something called stocks from the old days. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
- [40:19]
B
Yeah.
- [40:19]
A
But I'm not saying we have them now.
- [40:21]
C
Yeah. I think, Liz, what you're saying is you go on vacation to like North Dakota and you're like, oh, let's get a picture of Jimmy inside. He puts his hand in.
- [40:29]
B
Yes, one of those. Yeah, they have them, like, now that I think about it. But like, as a kid, I remember like going to like Disney World and like, that's Disney World had stocks. Yeah. I mean, but it's like, you know, it's like some. I couldn't even tell you what ride or whatever they're trying to.
- [40:45]
A
Maybe it's like ye olde something.
- [40:48]
C
Yeah.
- [40:48]
B
Like, but still looking back, you're like.
- [40:50]
A
Stocks at Disney World.
- [40:52]
B
Yeah, I'm almost positive I have pictures as like a nine year old.
- [40:56]
A
They can't have them today, though.
- [40:58]
B
Who knows?
- [40:59]
A
Not Disney World, but there you go. Yeah. Is that Disney World?
- [41:03]
B
That one says Disneyland, but yeah, Disneyland. No, I genuinely know I have a picture with my sister in something like that.
- [41:11]
A
Wow.
- [41:12]
B
Like in the 90s.
- [41:14]
A
Wow. It's weird. Like you think there'd be some sort of liability or insurance or something. Like you think they just get rid of like they don't have diving boards and pools anymore or something. It's just like insurance. So I was thinking about the stocks and then I was kind of thinking about how to make them. I could talk someone how to make Stocks, if they want. If they needed them.
- [41:36]
B
I don't think it's hard.
- [41:38]
A
All right, how would you make stocks then?
- [41:40]
B
Isn't it just. Isn't it just a wood and then you cut a hole out for the hands and you cut a hole out for the head.
- [41:46]
A
Yeah. The space shuttle's just like a box that goes into the sky, you know?
- [41:50]
B
Well, the whole point is to imprison people, right? Is that what the point of it is? I think I could figure it out.
- [41:56]
A
All right, well, I'll accept your challenge. Thank you. You, who automates everything, all of a sudden you're home improvement queen?
- [42:04]
B
I don't want to. But if you put some money down, I'll get a hammer and a chainsaw.
- [42:08]
A
Yeah, but. Okay, here's what I'm saying. We could. That wouldn't work, but we could figure it out. You could figure it out, but then there's also a way to do it that would make sense is what I'm saying.
- [42:20]
B
Oh, yeah, but that's almost everything in my life. There's absolutely correct way to do anything. I don't do it. I'm not gonna do it.
- [42:27]
A
So you just want to make substandard stocks?
- [42:30]
B
Yeah, and if they escape, they escape. That's what I get for not. Well, that's instructions.
- [42:36]
A
How you run your town. That's not how I run my town.
- [42:38]
C
That's not how we run Disneyland.
- [42:41]
A
Yeah, there's a pedophile because I made haphazard stocks and now he's in your yard.
- [42:46]
B
I'm so curious how we came to stocks to begin with. Did you see stocks? Are you trying to bring stocks back?
- [42:53]
A
Dustin brought it up for some reason, but he didn't know the name of it. And then I said, they're called stocks. And then I went over how to build stocks I think would be a good for those who want stocks. Pretty straightforward building way.
- [43:07]
B
Why does anybody want a stock? Why are we bringing back stocks?
- [43:10]
A
There's sex robots, there's toilets.
- [43:12]
B
Oh, it's for your sex robot. You don't have a closet. Understand?
- [43:15]
A
No, no, I'm saying why does anybody want. I have no idea. You turn on the news and you go, why? Just that guy lit a hobo on fire. Why would. Well, he's out there.
- [43:28]
B
Could have easily made a stock.
- [43:30]
A
Well, that's what I'm saying. There's people out.
- [43:32]
B
There's a non violent creepy way to handle that.
- [43:35]
A
No, no, I'm not tying stocks to robots or setting hobos on fire. I'm saying there's somebody out there who wants everything.
- [43:44]
B
Sure.
- [43:45]
A
And it doesn't make sense to us.
- [43:46]
B
I love the idea that somebody's like building a home and they're like, it's nice, but they. They don't have any stocks here. They have a pool that's nice, but there's no stocks. Like, I can't imagine somebody being like, that's the last remaining thing before I buy a home.
- [43:59]
A
They left their presenting it as that. I'm just saying there is a way to build it. That's what I'm saying.
- [44:07]
C
How would you. I have an idea how I would build it, but I'm curious how you would build.
- [44:11]
A
Build it. No, I don't want to board.
- [44:15]
B
I do know how to upgrade my toilet, which is quite exciting.
- [44:19]
A
But the notion of stocks, which is. Could you. If there was stocks and they put person in the center of town and they just kept them there, sometimes it'd be hours, sometimes it could be days depending on the offense. Because I was reading up on it. But Rudy, when you were young and you would have known some dudes who got themselves some stocks time, everyone I went to high school with would have ended up in the center of town for doing something fucking stupid. Stealing a donkey or something like that. Right. Like joyriding a donkey or something. My buddy Ray would have ended up in the stocks for sure. And then we would have had to come by and visit him in the center of town. And then we for sure would have to fart on him, of course. And I was thinking. And it must have. There must have been some yield farting going on. Yeah, no, that would be the tamest, the calmest thing. You were in the stocks for a reason. People did horrible things to people that were in there.
- [45:22]
B
But I think friendship is farting daytime. And then people that actually hate him.
- [45:27]
A
Yeah, it gets worse. But you, you definitely would have to do a little crop dust. Like even if it was olden times and didn't know the person and you were just out for a stroll and you had something coming on and you're passing the person with the stocks now for me, I'd be like, what did he do?
- [45:46]
B
Well, that was actually my first thought is like, how do you know what that guy did? Do they have a little plaque?
- [45:50]
A
I did have to post it because if he was in there for some sort of white collar Martha Stewart thing, I'd be like, let's all right, leave the guy alone.
- [45:58]
B
He stole bread to feed his family. You're like, really? What are we doing here? But like, no, if it was a bad guy, I'd be farting up a storm.
- [46:05]
A
Yeah.
- [46:06]
B
No, I don't blow it away. Yeah, absolutely.
- [46:08]
A
Would you do it? But here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking I would do it, but I'd probably have to put, like, a hood on my head or a mask or something because. Oh.
- [46:19]
B
Because eventually he's out.
- [46:20]
C
Oh, like execution.
- [46:21]
A
He's out. At some point, you may have fucked up.
- [46:23]
B
Yeah. And then he was just like this.
- [46:25]
A
And then you end up in the stocks, and he's like, hey, bitch, it's payback time.
- [46:28]
B
I've been eating beans for a week.
- [46:29]
A
Yeah. Just waiting for you to get that drunk horse. Horse driving thing.
- [46:34]
B
That is interesting. If you're somebody that is, like, torturing another person, like, he's not gonna get out in three days or what have you.
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A
The stocks, they do a foot ankle stock, and then they do. But the popular. The ones they show at the. You know, in Virginia at the old town or whatever. Disneylands. Disneyland or Disneyland. Are the head with the arms through it. That version. That model is called the pillory. That's a pillory. Pillory. That's a pillory. Yeah. The stocks are the ankle. Oh, they are. Well, then I apologize. The stocks locked a seated individual's feet and ankle into place while the pillory held the standing persons. Oh. So I've been. Man, I've been living this lie my whole life. I've been calling a pillory of stocks.
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C
See, this guy lives sitting over here high on his horse, about all he knows about stocks.
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No fact checking, the whole thing. He's like, I could build one for you, Adam. Wrong.
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A
But stocks would still be easier for.
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Someone to fart on you because you'd.
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Be sitting down as opposed to pillory. Right. But can't you use your hands in stocks? Because I feel like I could get a hard anus punch. You know, if you come by, there's a range situation. You know, person picks up a rock and throws it at your ass.
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C
You know the guy at the zoo when he's screwing with the lion, the lion gets through and gets him. Yeah, it's like that.
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There was. There was all kinds of ceremonies to putting someone in the stocks. People would come out in the town and announce what he did and what his crime is. And I am 100% sure that there was a court gesture or jester or a big fat guy who just to fire up the crowd, would walk over there and just rip a gunner in the guy's face. And the Crowd would go, yeah, spawned a bunch of concession stands where they were selling like, like mead and pinto beans or something. Like they're firing people, the crowd up, you know what I mean?
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It's just so wild to me to think, like, that was entertainment is like, somebody did something wrong. We're gonna shame him, and then we're gonna lock him up into town. And now I'm just like, oh, I'm watching cat videos on, you know, I.
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Mean, as morbid as it sounds, like a town guillotine or something is kind of the ultimate entertainer.
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It was like. And I also think, how is, like, reality television not much different, right? We're just shame. Like, the reason most people watch that stuff is like, well, I'm better than this whore.
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Yeah, well, like, you watch those. I saw a slapping competition where it's a big thing now where guys are knocking guys out. And why you're watching a guy with an open hand try to take another guy's head off. Why is that entertaining? Well, I would argue if it is, literally taking his head off with the. With a guillotine is probably gonna be more entertaining to the town people. I know a guy who is about in his early 50s. He's not 85 or 90. He's. I think he's Iranian. And he said, when I was a kid, my dad took me to an execution.
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B
Jesus.
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Wow. Yeah, I mean, well, you gotta think about it. It's like Iran, 1977 or something. He's like, yeah, yeah, here you go. We're going to watch X. We're going to execute this guy. Come on down there.
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Yeah, there's like a. So like, God, I. I was on a podcast where we talked about how the likelihood of seeing a dead body these days is. Is rare. Right? Like, maybe that changed with the pandemic and stuff. But now the way our society works is that if there's a dead body, it gets cleared pretty quickly. And most people haven't seen, like, a dead body. So there is something to how we've grown up. Not most people, I would like to say, haven't seen a dead body unless they're in war or what have you. To people, wherever they lived earlier, where that was a common place and how that changes your psyche over time, you know what I mean? So to think of this, like, kind of guillotine, you know, or, or. Or stocks kind of thing and like, torturing people, it's like the idea of that now, I think now it's all psychological. It's all, like, judging people because they did something shitty and then, you know, we shame them on tick tock or whatever. But like it is kind of fascinating that as we've, we've aged, like the idea that my dad would take me to a, a local beheading, you know what I mean? To be like. And I don't know if there was like something like, hey, eat your vegetables or there's like, you know, like, I don't know if there was like a lesson to that of showing them that young, but it is very interesting to as, as like society has progressed. Like, the idea of that is like, like wild. Like, I don't even like shaming my cats. Like, I can't imagine you can't shame a cat. I mean, I've, I've said some mean.
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Things to my cats and I think cat's been shamed.
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Yeah, they, they get a little sad. I feel bad.
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You think? Think they know it?
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B
I do.
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A
Okay. Dogs much easier to shame than a cat.
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B
Oh yeah. No, they, they get it, they get it.
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Cats. I feel like, like, I don't know, trying to shame a homeless person. Oh, fuck off.
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B
Yeah, they have less muscles in their face.
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A
Face. That's the cats do.
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B
Yes, cats have less muscles in their face than dogs. That's why they don't. That's why they always look like they have resting face. So they could be emotionally feeling it, which they do. And I think that's the misconception. They can emotionally feel it, but they're not going to show it on their face.
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Where's the dog? You see him go? Yeah, yeah.
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C
Maybe if their mom wasn't always on the road and leaving a robot.
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I know I am a bad mom. I, I admit that.
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A
Well, a bad mom, but a good comedian. So let me give you a, a plug special, by the way. Space camps available now at Punchup Live. Liz. M I E L E. Yeah. Come back and catch us up. I want to know. Curious how that format is doing with you?
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B
Yeah, no, I appreciate it.
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A
We'll take a quick break. Rude's got the news and we'll do that right after this. Shopify starting a business. Well, that can be a little intimidating in this day and age. Shopify is the commerce platform behind millions of businesses around the world and 10% of all e commerce in the US from household names like Mattel and Gymshark to brands just getting started. But don't worry, you'll hear of them soon. Get started with your own design studio. With hundreds of ready to use templates, Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store to match your brand style. Get the word out like you have a marketing team behind you. Easily create email and social media campaigns wherever your customers are scrolling or strolling. And best yet, Shopify is your commerce expert with world class expertise in everything from managing inventory to international shipping to processing returns and beyond. It's Shopify, right Dawson? Turn your big business idea into Shopify on your side. Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com Corolla go to shopify.com Corolla shopify.com Corolla homes.com well some might say homes.com is the best home shopping site. I might say that maybe homes.com's super comprehensive and transparent agent directory. Or maybe it's@homes.com is the only site that always directly connects you with the listing agent who knows the home the best. Perhaps it's because homes.com has the most in depth neighborhood content of any home shopping site that's extensively researched to highlight the personality of each neighborhood. Homes.com goes above and beyond to bring you and all their shoppers the in depth info they need to find the right home right now. I lovehomes.com It's a hobby, I admit it. But I enjoy it. Go there all the time. Go to homes.com that's holmes.com We've done your homework and now Alcoa presents Definitely.
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C
Not a Jew on the Adam Carolla show.
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Dateline Lincoln County, Missouri up A 70 year old woman was arrested on three felony counts of neglect, child abuse and child endangering after allegedly trading her foster child for an exotic monkey.
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Definitely not a Jew.
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A
Oh man. That's the new leader in the clubhouse everybody. So Rudy's got his news fired up here.
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C
Yeah, let's do it. Late night comedian Jon Stewart blasted right and left wing leaning news hosts in the narcissistic media ecosystem for politicizing recent mass shootings by rushing to blame the other side. Who the fuck cares? Stewart exclaimed Monday during the Daily Show. These mass shootings do not fit neatly into our left right paradigm. During his fiery monologue, Stewart slammed cable news pundits for trying to pin the violence on one another after a deadly spurt of six mass shootings in just a 24 hour span over the weekend.
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Yeah, okay, so if you ever hear the left go, this is a left right problem. It means it's mostly left. Because if it's most, if it's left right, they just go, it's all right. So that's the way they argue everything. So if they ever go, everybody's responsible, that means they're mostly responsible. It's sort of. Anyone's argued with a woman, it's always your fault. But if they ever get to the point where they go, look, both of us have some blame, okay, bitch, you did everything. Now when you say both of us have some, like, it's like, let me tell you, left and the right. If you come out to your Maverick, your Ford Maverick, and the side of it's dinged in, and you come out and you go, hey, Adam, I parked my car in your parking lot and you kind of pushed in the side. And I can see it's got your car's paint on it, and I can see your car has the bumper scuffed up in the same spot. So could you repay me for the repair? Could you pay me to fix the car? And I go, oh, yeah, I didn't do that. No, it's not me, but I'll pay for half. If it's not you, then you go, fuck off. I don't know who we were talking about. I wasn't driving today. But if you go, I'll pay for half. It means you did the whole. And so when you hear Stewart or anyone on the left go, there's equal blame to go around, that always means it's 90% fucking them. Here's the deal. Nobody formally shot at ice facilities. Then you started calling ice Nazis. And now people shoot at ice facilities. And you can go, there's enough blame to go around. But that's you calling ice Nazis. That's how that works. So sorry. Enough blame to go around people.
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C
After the week of when Charlie Kirk happened, my mom was first to get on the phone with me and go, well, you know, both sides. It's all both sides. I was like, have you ever hear.
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Progressive people go, both sides. Look again, think of the same as your woman go, look, we both made mistake, okay? That's that.
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C
Yeah, yeah, my girlfriend does that too. When we go on the road, the hotel will be trash and she'll be like, well, we both have stuff laying everywhere. I was like, do we? Cuz somebody's shit is all over the bathroom and mine is tuckling. It's in my own luggage. I don't know what you're talking about.
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A
Anytime somebody tries to include you on the mess, that means the mess is 85% their mess. It's a roommate. You know, I had. I used to. So when I bought this warehouse 22, 23 years ago, and everyone no Many of my loser valley buddies immediately seized on a place to stash their junker project shit. And this entire place was basically filled up with Donnie and his cousin's old junker cars. It was filled and it was on. And his Mustang was on my hoist. And I never got to use my hoist. He put it on the hoist, he lifted it up like three feet. He took it apart and it just sat on my hoist. And after like two years, I said, hey, Donnie, do you think you'd get your car off my hoist so I could use my hoist? And by the way, I can't get around in my own warehouse because it's filled with. With your shit and your cousin's shit. And he goes, you got your car back here. I had a Lamborghini that had warehouse.
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C
How dare you.
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I had a Lamborghini with the bumpers taken off of it. And he goes, you got your car back here all taken apart. Okay. By the way, that's been my adult life, arguing with people about stuff. Yeah, in my warehouse amongst all your shit. So whenever someone tries to include you, it's always all their shit. And the left calls the right Nazis and then at some point a young person acts out the old people, as I've explained, the Nancy Pelosi's, Chuck Schumer, all these people, they don't think anyone's a Nazi. They know what they're talking about, they just say it. Hillary Clinton. First off, what does Hillary Clinton think? She cooked up the steel dossier and invented Russian collusion. So she called Tulsi Gabbard, you know, Katzpoff, Putin and Russia. Did she think that? And the answer is no, she doesn't think any of it. But a 19 year old kid who's on Prozac and playing too many first shooter video games might believe her. Yeah, that's where we're at. So shut the fuck up.
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Yeah, even the stuff like, you know, talk about. Like I saw a clip with your favorite Leslie Jones and she was complaining about Wash your ass. She was complaining about Jillian Michaels. This happened on the Daily show the other night. She was talking about Jillian Michaels and she was like, how does this bitch who told. Who told me how to get abs in 60 days, how did she. How is she like the foremost voice on slavery? And I was like, well, who the fuck are you? Who are you to talk about this stuff?
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Well, she's the 128th funniest person from SNL, Rudy. If in fact.
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C
Obviously, yes, there's only been 127 on SNL, though. So. Yeah.
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A
Yes. So anyway. Yeah, good times.
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All right, so YouTube to pay 24.5 million to settle Trump's lawsuit over the 2021 account suspension. Oh, ace, man, you got your dancing shoes out. Okay. Because YouTube has agreed to pay it. And with that money, Trump is going to take it and put it toward the construction of the new White House ballroom. Trump sued the Alphabet owned video sharing platform in July of 2021, alleging that YouTube unlawfully silenced conservative viewpoints after suspended his account in the wake of January 6th. The Trust for the National Mall, the nonprofit group raising private donations to build the $200 million ballroom on the White House grounds. It will be paid 22 million by the tech company as part of the settlement.
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Now, someone should put a ballroom clock versus Gavin Newsom's bullet train clock, because I'll guarantee that ballroom is gonna be done in nine months and that fucking bullet train will never be done. And it's not. Not because of the difference between a ballroom and a bullet train. It's because of the difference between Trump and Newsom. Newsom's a. He likes. He's a process guy. Wants to talk about it, but he'll never. It'll never happen.
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Yeah. And, you know, I lived in Minneapolis when the 35W bridge fell, and that was like, such a big deal. And one of the things that they did is they really said, hey, we gotta get some private companies in here because that is a major artery into the city and we need to get this built. I mean, it was literally like within 18 months, they had that bridge up and running again. I was just in Baltimore doing shows, and a friend of mine who lives there, we were talking about the bridge that fell there, and he was like, dude, they are. There's cooking on this thing because they gotta get it done.
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A
So there's government red tape, the sad part. And maybe Andrew can find you the clip of Temescal Canyon that'll be in the. An upcoming vlog. I got a big doozy of a vlog coming your way, kids. But the part that makes it sad is sort of like when you see somebody and then you realize, oh, they can do shit they need to do, but they're just shit with your stuff. You know what I mean? And everyone's got a little element of that. But the sad part is, like, here we had like, MacArthur park or whatever. It's like junkies and needles and hobos and Fentanyl and stuff. And like, at some point, you know, Karen Bass is Like we can't, you know, these are unhoused neighbors and we can't. And at some point someone goes clean this fucking shit up. Like the Olympics are coming to town. And two days later the place looks brand new.
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C
Oh yeah, San Francisco for sure.
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Yeah, right? They just go pow. Like it's clean now and you see it all the time. If they want to do it, they do it. Or they just talk about a bullet train for 300 years, which. It pisses me off more. It's like if you have a partner or you have an employee or something and they're totally fucking incompetent all the time. But at some point it has to do with them going online and buying tickets to fish who's in town. And then they book an Airbnb and they book the flights. It's like, oh, you're good at this stuff. But it's because you want to go to see a concert. You're not good with my travel shit. Right, that you fuck up all the time. I'll show you Temescal Canyon, a kind of before and after, and we'll put it up@adamcarolla.com Temescal Canyon. Now, I took a tour of this with Colonel Saucer and it was set up to be a corridor of work and ingenuity. They had pulverizers, concrete pulverizers, everything was set up. And I went back a month later and it was pristine and new. All right, pause it there. Whoa. When I went there, it was covered with dirt. The asphalt was beat to shit. Cuz it's not made for that much heavy machinery. They had whole recycling centers, like mobile units, like set up stuff with conveyor belts on it. Dump trucks backing up, pulverizers, busting up the concrete, loading the loaders. And the other day, I don't drive up and down Temescal Canyon, I use another canyon. But the other day Waze just said, take Temescal instead of sunset or whatever it was. And I found myself turning down Temescal Canyon, looking around, Grass grown asphalt down, freshly painted, brand new, no holes in the ground where they had to anchor stuff down. There is no trace that this place was completely set up. It essentially looked like one of those roads in Gaza after a good Israeli bombing. Like just rubble everywhere, trucks everywhere, Dirty, dusty, mess up. Oh, it's brand new. They pulled up and left three months ago. Boom. Brand new, doable is what I'm saying. Or not. Or not. That's what I'm saying. Actually painted. And you couldn't Even tell they were there. And my point is, we are capable of doing this. This is what we can do if we set our mind to it. Now, Karen Bass isn't gonna get this done, and Gavin Newsom's not going to get it done, but we can get this done. Temescal Canyon was damnation alley. It was more rebar, more scrap, more busted up concrete, more building materials, tractors and hoes and cherry pickers and huge pieces of equipment, by the way. Conveyor belts and concrete pulverizers and. And everything. Major heavy equipment all the way up and down this canyon with semi trucks lined up at the top and pulverizers and metal extractors in the middle and guys with heliarcs and acetylene cutting rigs. And we went from that to pristine, brand new. You could have a kiss soapbox derby. So if the army corps of engineers gets on something, they'll get on it it. And then we will too, if we need it like that. After the 94 earthquake, a big section of the 10 freeway fell down and like, oh, we got to fix this. Yeah, or there's the bullet train.
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Well, there's also. They really need to incentivize some of these companies. I think when Minneapolis redid like the entire 35W corridor, this is after the bridge had fallen and kind of down by like around the airport at the crosstown, they basically told the company that was doing it, hey, you guys show up early. For every week you are early, you get X amount of dollars.
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A
Yeah.
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And that thing was. They basically had that thing done like within like three, three and a half months in front of schedule.
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You can look it up. Andrew or Dawson. But the, the big chunk of the 10 Freeway that was damaged in the 94 earthquake, they said to that contractor something to the effect of, we'll give you a million bucks for every week or month you come in under, under time. And he was like, oh, fucking done and done. And he had his crew working Sunday at midnight, you know. But that shit got open three months earlier. That guy pocketed 3 million bucks, by the way. That's how life works. Democrats. You can't just telling people to do the right thing doesn't work. They need incentives, good and bad. Stocks and bonds.
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C
Yeah. Oh, man, that's your company name right there.
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And bonds. Stocks or bonds. 30 years. Yeah, so you can check that story out. I don't think that's the 10 freeway, but maybe it is the 10 freeway, I don't know. But they did it lickety split. And I remember Living here during the time going, they incentivize those crews. And by the way, the guy who owns the construction outfit, he doesn't go, look, I'm gonna put an extra million bucks in my pocket for every month we come in under calendar time, so I'm gonna need all you assholes to work for free. Yeah. He goes, we're gonna be working Sundays, you're gonna be making double time, and we're gonna get this shit done. So anyway, you can figure out that story. I don't need pictures of it. I just need. I understand what it is. I'm asking for the story of it. All right?
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C
You know, when they're doing this ballroom, wouldn't it be just a power move for Trump to just hang a couple of, like, Saddam chandeliers in there from. You know what I mean, from back in the day stuff?
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A
He stol. Yeah.
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C
How awesome would that be?
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A
Well, speaking of trolling, I mean, him and these Hakeem Jeffries videos and him and Chuck Schumer vids are. They're the best. I don't know why. I don't know why the Chuck Schumer one made me laugh my ass off, and the other. And this is all you can do, by the way. I've told everyone this. I remember where I was when Tucker Carlson was interviewing me 10 years ago, and he said, when does it end? And I go, you have to make fun of them.
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C
Yeah.
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A
So when they call you a racist, you don't go, oh, no, no, no. I have black friends. You go, fuck you. And you laugh.
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C
Yeah.
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A
All right. So they did this. It's great. Let's just listen to AI Chuck Schumer. There's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all of our woke trans bullshit. Not even black people want to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens free health care, we might be able to get them on our side so they can vote for us. They can't even speak English, so they won't realize we're just a bunch of woke pieces of shit, you know, at least for a while, until they. They learn English and they realize they hate us, too. Right? So it's awesome. And then. And then Hakeem Jeffries goes on MSNBC and he starts complaining about how racist it is, and then they fucking hit him with the sombrero and the mustache in this one, which is. But by the way, it's all you can do to assholes who call you racist, you have to lean into it. So now I'll play this video and we're gonna continue to make clear bigotry will get you nowhere. We are fighting to protect the healthcare of the American people in the face of an unprecedented Republican assault. Trump is the band. Trump's the band. It's awesome. It's awesome. And you can go, this is undignified. Yeah, I'm sure. But you call everyone racist and Nazi and you can fuck right off.
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C
Yeah.
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A
All you do is call people racist and homophobic and Nazi. So fuck off.
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C
Yeah.
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A
And that's the only thing that'll work. And that's the new administration. They just. They go talk to the hand with everything. Because if somebody is accusing you of something you're not, there is no end game for them. So if your woman or your daughter is saying, like, hey, Rudy, you've gotten three speeding tickets in as many months, then you can go, okay, I'm gonna try to be a little more careful behind the wheel. You know what I mean? But if she just says you're speeder and a reckless driver and you don't have any of that, why should she stop? The whole point is she can't stop. You never got the tickets in the first place. She's gonna keep calling you that. If she says, hey, you've been a reckless driver and you gotta be more careful, and you go, okay, I will. And two years goes by and you don't get a moving violation, then she'll go, well, I guess you've corrected that behavior. But if they're just laying shit on you all the time, that doesn't exist, then. No, they're never gonna stop. They're making up the shit. In the first place. They don't think you're a reckless driver. They're just trying to fucking sling a little mud, so you might as well just tell them to fuck off.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And speaking of the new administration and the way that they handle things, you're gonna love this story. War Secretary Pete Hegseth said Tuesday, announcing that dudes with dresses were not welcome in U.S. combat forces and the rest must meet male level fitness standards to face life and death situations. If women and weak men, he said, don't make the grade, so be it. Frankly, it's tiring to look out at combat formations and frankly, any formations and see fat troops. It's a bad look, and it's not who we are.
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Yes. Get it together. Tough shit, tough love. It's diet and exercise, family and education. Back to basics, everybody. Whatever your fucking shit is, it never worked. It can't work. It's not gonna work. Being more inclusive whether you are changing a scale. Like if you're saying, look, you gotta be able to do 10 pull ups in order to be in the Marines. And then they go, well, some of the fat dudes can't do it. Shifting to three pull ups is not a cure for this. And neither women can't do it. It's just 10 pull ups. That's it. It's like your doctor, you go to the doctor, you get on the scale, your fucking doctor will tell you if he hasn't been pussy whipped by the state of California. Hey, you could lose a few pounds, okay? Do we do this or do we get a new scale and we'll just adjust it so it makes it seem like you're a waif model? Because that's not gonna stop your obesity issue. Yeah, so God fucking love Pete Hexen.
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C
I would love.
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A
And I love that he pisses everyone off.
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C
Oh yeah. I just want him to be like, we are Semper Fi, not Thunder Thighs. Like that's what we do. Like, I just want him to, you know, like no fat chick, bumper stickers on the tank, stuff like that to really drive it home.
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A
Well, the fucking amount of money these guys waste on all this fucking diversity bullshit and lgbt. It's a fucking military. I want every penny going into fucking bullets and tanks.
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C
Yeah.
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The 110 freeway in Los Angeles. It's the busiest in the nation. Anyway, after the earthquake was rebuilt in 74 days, which was record time and earned a contractor a huge bonus, $200,000 bonus each day. They finished 110 Santa Monica repairs ahead of the deadline, earning the guy a total of 14.5 million bucks. That's all I'm saying. It's basically LA paid double because he finished fast. Yeah, but here's my whole point, Dawson. Don't you clear out this warehouse. Like, I'll give you a month. I was like, fine, but if he said, and I'll give you 1,000 bucks, but if he said, if you knew in two weeks I'll give you 10,000, he'd fucking be here Sunday night. If you came here Sunday, Dawson, be clearing this fucking shit out. And so would I. That's how everyone works. Everyone. And that's why your socialism doesn't work. Because people work the other way. And socialism is. Dawson, I'll pay you regardless of how well you clean out this warehouse. And you can do it on your Own timeline or not at all. Don't worry, that check's coming. That's nothing. Try the $10,000 experiment. I do it with everyone. I told you Donnie had all this shit back here. He had a Ford Bronco that was a roller husk. Fucking in this corridor back here. It's like it was just taking up space. I couldn't get my car in and out, whatever. And I remember saying, I go, look, let's get that thing out of here. Put it in the parking lot. Put a cover on it. First off, the. A junker, ruster piece of shit. But it's in the way. I can't get my cars in and out. He goes, okay. And then I do what I do. I go, I'm not gonna tell you when to get this out. You tell me. You tell me, what's it gonna take to get your car out of here and in the parking lot? And he goes, two weeks. And I go, okay, I won't bring it up again. By the way, I always talk to Dr. Drew about this. I would say, drew, if people talk to me in a sing songy, condescending, shitty way, like, adam, what's it gonna take for you to understand? I would kill myself. I would kill myself. I talk to almost everybody. Like, listen to me, okay? You tell me how long? And they go, here. He goes, two weeks. I go, okay, I will not bring it up. If it hasn't been touched in 13 days, I'm not gonna come in here and remind you. This is done. It's two weeks. What day is it It. We know the date. We're done. We're done. Not gonna bring it up again. Okay, Two weeks came and went. Thing didn't get touched. And then I said, donnie, what's the thing? Yeah, I didn't do it. And so I remember saying to him, I go, what if I said, you got two weeks and $10,000? And he goes, yeah, I would have gone on there. And I went, okay, by the way, now we're okay. So what we're talking about is something called dignity and having character. But you're saying you don't have any because you want $10,000 to do a thing you should have done for free. But okay, I now see how human beings work. It's a $10,000 rule. Everyone would admit to you. Yeah, I would have done it anyway.
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Yeah, I tried to throw a story my daughter's way. We had a situation where I was asking her to do something and she wouldn't do it. And then I brought up the story. When you and I first started. Started working together, we were on the road. We were in. I believe it was Napa. Napa, Northern California. And I left the bottle. I left the bottle of whiskey open. I left the cap off the whiskey, and you gave me some shit about it. And we had just started working together, and I'm like, I don't want to lose this gig. This is fun. This is so.
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I.
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From that day, I have never not put the cap back on the whiskey. And I brought it up to my daughter, and after I explained it, I'm like, I wanted that job. I wanted to keep working with Adam. So guess who has never not put the whiskey top back on the whiskey. And she goes, I don't drink. And I'm like, you missed the point of that conversation.
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A
Ah, it's my world.
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C
Yeah.
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A
All right. We got another one.
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C
Yeah. Fast and Furious actor Tyrese Gibson faces arrest warrant after dogs allegedly kill neighbor's pet. The actor's lawyer said he is fully cooperating with authorities and has rehomed his dogs, while authorities say Gibson hasn't turned himself in. Tyrese Gibson has a warrant out for his arrest after his dogs allegedly killed another dog earlier this month when they got loose in his Georgia neighborhood. This happened. This happened a few weeks ago. I don't know if you've seen any of this, but since then, they put out a warrant for his arrest, and he made a post saying he's taking, like, a mental health month. And it's just, like, hitting the road, and they're like, hey, dum dum, we got. We got a couple of cops waiting to talk to you. And he just says, I just. I need some time, and just splits town.
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I think he's nuts. Yeah. Kind of a head case.
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Absolutely.
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Not necessarily in a horrible way, but eccentric, I think, which. We don't label black people eccentric enough. It's a white guy's move. You know what I mean? Yeah, black people fall through the cracks. White guys are eccentric, but he's eccentric. And also, you assholes with your dogs. It's like if someone is telling you your dog is getting out and running around the neighborhood and terrorizing the. Fix that shit. Would you fix it immediately. I had a guy down the street that had a crazy dingo fucking wolf dog, and it was just. They just kind of left it out. And you'd see, like, old folk riding a bike, you know, going by the dogs, fucking chasing old lady down the street. Then some other person is just walking down the street, and the dogs Literally terrorizing, including myself in the neighborhood. And it's like, put your fucking dog away or fix the fence or do whatever. Like I don't know how fucking irresponsible you can be knowing that you have this vicious dog that you just let, I say, terrorize the neighborhood. Like you, you couldn't, you know, you walk down your driveway, you wouldn't go right, you'd have to go left because you couldn't go buy their house. Cause Moon the fucking dingo dog might be out there.
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Speaking of, if you guys got a photo of this, you can look it up if ever seen one. He, he owns four Cane Corso dogs. You've ever seen a Cane Corso?
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No.
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They look like prison inmates. They're the most muscular, badass looking pit bull looking dogs ever. The four of these dogs chewed up a King Charles Cavalier, like cocker spaniel, very tiny and just left it in the driveway. Yeah, this poor guy's got to come home, pull it in the driveway after a long day at work and see his poor dog.
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Yeah. And also so it's not letting your dogs roam the streets in this day and age of everything on one aisle. And Home Depot is pretty fucking preventable. I don't know why. When I was young, there were houses that had a fence around them and then ones that didn't and the ones that didn't. There's nothing you could do. I'd be like, could we get a dog? No. Why? We don't have a. What do I do? Yeah, there's no fence.
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Sorry.
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And I'd be like, we can't argue with no fence. People can just wander into our yard. Yeah. Why we don't have a fence? You think we're fence family? I never really did the math on. We're about a day away from having a fucking fence. If we wanted a fence, right, like we could do a fence. The notion first off, the notion that anyone would open the phone book and look under fence contractors or stuff that was off the table. It's like, no, it's like maybe your grandpa could come over here and put something up that resembled a fence and like certainly couldn't order a fence or have a fence.
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Yeah, I'll give you a cheaper fix. Just get that leash that goes on the clothesline and let's, let's em run back and forth. Or is that, is that even too much of an ass?
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You just get that auger bit thing that goes into the ground and just fucking tie them up. Yeah, my parents didn't want a Dog, I mean they didn't want kids either. I don't think everything was a hassle. The dog was a. By the way, if you're a kid and you're begging for a dog and your family's thing is like, it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. Understand? You're a lot of work to them and you ain't getting what you need. Because if the dog is a lot of work, the kid's more work and you're gonna get less. But no, we never. My grandpa tried to rebuild the porch once and he bought used lumber, which I didn't. Now there's. I guess it's a rich man, poor man thing like repurposed. But he bought used lumber from like a pier that caught on fire and it was literally bent and propellered water soaked boards that were charred. Some of them are charred but like good enough. And it was the most inconsistent termite riddled piece of fucking. You couldn't walk on it at night. You would kick something and fall over because they were all uneven and everything. Sure, that's what the Corollas did. And by the way, that shit porch that my grandfather built with used lumber was the biggest construction project of all the Corollas to this day.
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Yeah, yeah. I want to see where you stand on this. So I was in Portland, Oregon. We did some shows. The next day I went out, camped by myself on a river just south of Eugene. There was some good hiking trails. I got up early, like 6:30 in the morning, went out camping. I went out hiking by myself way out in the woods. Walked about three miles back up the side of this mountain, got back to there. This waterfall, this cool little creek. It's about like 7:30am I'm watching the sun come up. I start walking out of the woods. I'm by myself all.
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Hold on, hold on. If you had a coffee. This is perfect hand. Perfect. Time for double hand mods. Double hands as the sun is coming up theme. You do so much for others. This moment's for you.
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C
You totally neglect your family. They can kiss your ass.
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Can't spring for fucking fence. Yeah, that where you're picturing is double hand coffee commercial mug scene. Yeah, so I'm picturing it.
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C
So I'm walking out of the forest. It's 7:30 in the morning. I'm out there by myself. All I got is a knife and bear mace with me. I'm walking down the trail, I turn a corner and all of a sudden there is a wolf standing in front of me, and I immediately. I scream and I just. I do the thing they tell you to do. Get big, yell. And I just start going, hey, hi. And I'm reaching for the bear mace. And then from behind what I think is this wolf, I hear a guy go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Turns out it was a Siberian husky, German shepherd mix.
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Oh, yeah.
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So it looks exactly like a wolf. It's in the woods by itself. I don't see anybody around. This guy comes running up and he goes, oh, my gosh. I'm so. I mean, my heart is pounding. I thought I was gonna fight this wolf. And he's like, I'm so sorry, man.
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You're like Liam Neeson on a oil rig. Yeah. Or whatever that movie was. The gray.
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C
The gray, that's right, yes. Which.
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A good movie, except for, ironically, Liam Neeson's hair has no gray in it. He plays a 63 year old, grizzled leatherneck who lives in Alaska, but his hair, it looks like Casey Kasem. And it's like, come on, Liam, that's the wrong hair for this. That's the wrong hair for this character. But go ahead.
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C
That salt and pepper. No. So I'm like, my heart is pounding. And the guy goes, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I bring my dog out here because I hate having him on a leash. I want him to be able to run. He stays close to me, but I bring him all. I mean, it was literally like 13 miles out of town, and he's like, I just wanted him to run. And he goes, I'm really sorry. I should have had him on a leash. And I was like, no, no, no. I think you're doing the right move, my man. Like you didn't know it. You come out here early because you expect nobody to be out here. You don't want your dog to be in, you know, you don't want him leashed up or in the house all the time. I think you did the right move. And he was very, you know, cordial. I actually got a picture with the dog. I put it on my Instagram. You can see the. In my pants. I was like.
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A
I was.
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C
It was the most scared I've ever been.
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So this was Tyrese? This is Tyrese, by the way. Every woman I tell stories to, this is what this. This is where it ends up. Tyrese was in the woods?
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C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
Oh, okay.
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C
Yeah, it was a cocker spaniel.
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Hold on, I'm looking at something on my phone. Wait a second. You want to talk about feast to famine, the serenity of the double hand mug coffee serenity to the abject terror of wolf attacked in the jungle. I mean, that is. Oh, yeah, man.
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It was literally. I was sitting back, I was watching this waterfall and thinking to myself, I'm so grateful for all of the things in my life. I can't believe I've gotten to this point. I'm 45 years old. What an amazing life I get to lead. Oh, my God. I have to fight. I have to go Liam Neeson style.
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Liam Neeson with a wolf.
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C
I gotta go revenant and fight this giant, massive wolf. His name was Kevin and he had a collar on. But nonetheless, I gotta fight him to the death.
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I take unpopular stances in life, but I stand by them. And the Revenant. Am I pronouncing that right? Yeah, yeah, the Revenant. It was very clear in that movie. And they do this a lot. Weirdly. They weirdly do this in movies where they make sort of my point or they shift the point. It's 1841. It's pre penicillin. Leonardo gets ragdolled by a grizzly. God knows, in this day and age, it'd be 7,000 stitches and he'd need a new liver and he'd be on dialysis and he'd be airlifted. He gets completely destroyed by this grizzly bear, and then he's laying there and he's gonna get sepsis and die in two days. Right? Right. It's fucking snowing. We're out of provisions and we're on foot, walking back to camp, and we need three days of walking. You want me to drag this guy's fat ass? We're all gonna die, by the way. So, yeah, leave him to die. Because he's gonna die in the next two days or the next two minutes. I don't know. He's been destroyed. We don't have Bactine or gauze or anything. But you know what? I'll check with him. I'll see what he wants, and then I'll go down and I'll go, you are so fucked up that you cannot speak or form a sentence. But blink your eye if it's okay for me to live. Cause remember, there's 15 of us, and we're all gonna die. We're all gonna die trying to save you. Who's not going to live? I mean, at this point in the movie, you've been completely destroyed by a grizzly bear. You're gonna bleed out in the next 12 hours, for sure. But blink. If you say it's okay to leave you behind or put a bullet in your head, just blink. And then he blinks. And then I go to the rest of the campers, okay, he blinked. Now we get to put a bullet in his head. And they're like, you're the worst person in the world for being insanely pragmatic about all of us fucking dying in this snow drift, trying to drag this fucking guy back to camp who's essentially grizzly baked at this point because he's bleeding out of every orifice. And then the rest of the movie is like, that guy wanted to kill him. It's like, no, that guy said, you're gonna kill us all. Is it okay for us to leave you for dead? And if so, blink. And then he blinked. Why is that on the other guy?
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C
Yeah, no kidding. I agree. Yeah. Wait, wait. Tyrese was in this movie.
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I argue with people about fucking stupid movie stuff. I'm going, listen, whoever wrote this movie, you made the pragmatic guy who's trying to save the rest of the campers into the bad guy.
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C
Yeah, he's doing his job. He's looking out for his troop. Sorry.
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Well, if there was a leader and there was a troop, and let's just say a morbidly obese guy was fallen by a grizzly, he'd be like, we can try to drag his fat ass over that ravine and across the mountain and look for the fort, but it's probably going to kill us all.
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C
Yeah. If Pete had said has way, we wouldn't even have a fat diaper.
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That's right. Pete had his way. Right. So it's a weird message. And I've argued with people like, I think Paul Bryant. I said, no. He blinked and he didn't blink. He does. You watch the thing. Leonardo Capro gives him the kill me blink. Why does that make Tom Hardy bad?
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C
Yeah. I wonder if it was one of those things where they did the take and then they went back and they watched it and they were like, oh, shit. Every take we have is him blinking. He's not supposed to blink. Well, it's almost like that when you brought up the cobra. He pulls the shirt down and you.
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Can see the movie Cobra.
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C
Yeah, yeah. You can see the microphone taped onto his chest. And they were like, well, we got no other take, so we got to use that one.
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Yeah. Because Sly, improvise the shirt ripping of the vato.
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C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Find that Rev. Right. Rev. Rev.
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C
My uncle unironically loves Cobra. Like, not, like, doesn't watch it and go, okay, I know that this is schlocky, and I know it's stupid. He loves every last second of that movie and talks about it with so much.
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A
Where's he live? Where do you live?
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C
Northern Minnesota.
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A
Cause the next time I'm in northern Minnesota, we're having a beer with your.
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C
Uncle, I'm telling you. And we're gonna watch Cobra hours and hours. It's one of his favorite movies ever. That and Predator, which is also great.
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I love any movie where they're like, look, there's a gang going after this woman. They're gonna try to kill her. She's not safe in the police station. We gotta send her to a remote cabin with one guy. I would have went, I feel pretty safe in this police station about, no, no remote cabin with just one guy.
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C
One dude.
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One dude.
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C
And I love it when the gang gets together. Like, these are grown men who all get together and stand in a circle inside of a factory, and they clang knives together.
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Yeah. An empty swimming pool.
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C
Yeah. Oh, that's what it is. Empty swimming pool.
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A
Yeah.
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C
I don't understand, Like, I can't even get my friends together for a fantasy football draft, let alone get together and do some marauding and killing.
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Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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C
I don't understand who these people in their 40s that are hanging out with other dudes and.
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A
Well, my favorite part about that is that satanic cult had, like, 150 people in it. But for some reason, Sly's commanding officer was convinced it was a lone wolf.
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C
Yeah.
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And he'd be like, you got your cockamamie theory, Cobra about more than one. Well, I'm not buying it. You got no proof. And Sly's like. He doesn't. Never says anything. He goes, earlier today, I was driving through Long beach, and there were eight cars chasing me, all with shotguns, firing at me. So I'm gonna dispel the lone wolf theory. Unless there was just some guys who just sort of jumped in.
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C
Yeah.
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You know what I mean? Like, hey, I got a shotgun. What's this guy up to? I don't know.
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C
Yep. These guys dress like the Ex Presidents. And then Tyrese is also with them. And at the same time.
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A
Jesus Christ. Now we're at Point Break. So I would like to sit down and discuss that movie with your uncle.
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C
Oh, you guys would love it. I would love to sit and watch it. We could just do a podcast of that, just watching you two talk about Cobra.
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A
I also love Any factory that's been mothballed for 17 years where you just walk in and flip one switch and flames, Flames start coming out. There's a hallway that just has flames sticking out of it, which seems like a liability because, like, the break rooms at the end of the hallway, like, what is going on in this factory that there's just flames that shoot out of walls?
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C
It's almost like Super Mario, the level where, like, the flames and the things are coming at you. Yeah.
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All right. Do we. Let's see, let's see. Oh, Chris Rufo's on. Oh, okay. Sorry. Do we have. Do we have the blink? Do we have the blink and then we'll talk that to Chris. I can muzzle you if you like. Take away this up from real quick and easy.
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C
One ever has to know that you give up.
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I do that if you want me to do that. Save your boy and blank. You just have to blink. Yeah, there it is. You best hope that the good Lord.
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C
Gets in us here quick.
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All right, said I. I'll put you out of your misery, but blink or I won't. But don't blink. Why does that make Tom Hardy the bad guy? He's the only pragmatist in that group. It's like this guy's £200. We can't. We're all going to die dragging him over the fucking hill. All right, that's enough. I feel like that's my whole life. Explain. That guy's a bad guy. He didn't. He's pragmatic. All right, Rudy, Nice job.
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C
Thanks, buddy. Thanks for having me.
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Christopher Ruffo is going to join us, and we'll do that right after this. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. O'Reilly Auto Parts. Oh, I screwed that up. But I know how to turn a ranch. I've been doing it for a While, and the O'Reilly guys have always helped me out. They keep your car on the road soon enough to end up stuck on the shoulder looking like a dog. So friendly, helpful service people who actually know their stuff. Not just some kind of fly by night. Some sort of guy rolls into town, claims they know about cars and doesn't. Now, they don't hire kids who stare at their phones. They hire guys who are enthusiasts, men and women who know their business. Thousands of parts and accessories stocked in store and online so you don't have to panic when the check engine light comes on. Need wipers swapped, brake lights out. These pros can help you find what you need or hook you up with a local shop if you're not a DIY type. So whether you're a gearhead or you don't know a lug nut from a donut, they'll walk you through it. No attitude, just real help. Stop by O'Reilly Auto Parts today or you can visit us online@o'reillyauto.com Adam that's o'reillyauto.com Adam. Adam this September, CBS hits are streaming free on Pluto TV. I'm coming in for this month only. You can watch full seasons of the CBS shows you love, from the courtroom drama of Matlock to the heroics of Fire Country. Go back to where it all began in NCIS Origins or watch the hilarious hauntings of ghosts, all for free. Full seasons of the CBS shows you love. This one month only on Pluto tv. Stream now. Pay never. It's time to check Adam's voicemail. It's Dan, the shop teacher up here in the San Joaquin Valley. You mentioned recently the comedians need to do more tactile projects to stay less narcissistic. Well, I just retired after 36 years in the classroom and I have time for this along with an early Bronco that needs some help. Give them my number. I'll throw some wrenches at them and keep them humble. And thank you always for supporting career technical education. Your support has made a difference. See ya. You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744. Christopher Rufo is joining us. He's currently working on reform American universities. Speaking of that. Yeah, what's wrong with a couple of tech classes? Let's bring back shop class, man. I'm telling you, that's part of the problem of the insanity and everyone's brain turning to mush is they're not tactile. They're not putting things together. They're not solving problems. They're just in their heads. Good to see you, Christopher.
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D
Good to be with you.
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A
So what is your assessment of the universities in 2025? And are we are we going a better direction now than we were two or three years ago?
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D
Yeah, absolutely. I think in the last six months, certainly we've started to go in a better direction. But the problem is formidable. It can't be solved immediately. And we should keep in mind that American taxpayers devote about $150 billion a year in subsidies, grants, student loan guarantees to America's colleges and universities. And so we all have a vested interest in making sure they're success. But what we've seen over and over and over, especially after 2020, George Floyd BLM riots is that the universities consider themselves a political arm of the left and conservatives should have no illusions about what that means and have to take much stronger action. I think President Trump has started this process, withdrawing funds from universities like Harvard. But this should be seen not as a solution, but merely as an opening shot.
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A
I think people need to understand that while we kind of look at it as, and you're right, an arm of the Democratic Party, and it's abundantly clear to anyone who's a clear thinker that that's what's going on, it is bound to be this way. And it can go no other way because it only attracts those people in terms of faculty. So if you go, and there's another side of it, if you go to merchant Marines, you're gonna get more Trump voters than you would. You'll get a different policy. If you go to airline pilots, I know it from the blue collar world. Blue collar guys think this way and academia thinks another way. And it attracts those. You go into a profession, you could be a bullfighter or you could be a marriage counselor, but you will be attracted to one or the other by what your propensities are like, what your attraction is. And it's a totally different person. And so universities and teaching in general, but especially college, it attracts only those people. And so when you go Harvard, their faculty, 93% Democratic votes and 6% Republican, because it only attracts those. But you could say that about Hollywood publicists, you know what I mean? Like, it detracts that. And bull riders are another group, so you're gonna have. It's kind of baked in. And then once people show up, they start talking like those people. But if you showed up with just merchant marines, they would talk how they talk and that you would get what they know.
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D
Yeah, I mean, I think that's right in the big picture, that institutions have a culture that self perpetuates, that filters out according to their preferences and ideologies. But it's actually partially just the general culture. I think elite universities have always been a bit more left leaning, let's say in the last 50 to 100 years. But it's really extreme now. And even at Harvard it's like 1% or maybe 2%, depending on how you measure it, of faculty are conservative. Whereas in the 1950s it was, you know, 10 times that or more. And so part of it is for the right to recognize that it's probably a fool's errand to consider to, to believe that we could have 50% or more representation in every university. So we have two options. One, we can divert some of the money that $150 billion a year away from the four year liberal arts universities towards, towards, let's say, vocational training, towards high school vocational programs, or just eliminate the funding altogether. I think we should do that. But we also have to get in the game because the temptation is to say, well, we should encourage everyone to go to trade school. We should just give up on the universities. I think that's a huge mistake. Because whether we like it or not, for the last 250 years of our history, lawyers, doctors, merchants professionals, highly educated people make up the leadership class of the United States. And so we're going to have to figure out how to increase the number of conservative faculty, increase the number of conservative, especially elite college graduates, and then try to actually contest some of these places. Because, you know, even looking at the Trump administration, you've got to have lawyers, administrators, engineers and all of the other professions. And that is the daunting task. I'm not sure there's an easy way to go about it, but I think the successful formula will rely on both of those approaches.
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Yeah, I agree. I mean, we're always going to need them and they're always going to attract a certain mindset. And I think in the past it's kind of interesting. I'll see if I can can dovetail this with your point, which is I was on a set doing some TV work the other day yesterday, and a woman who I go way back with and used to work on the man show with and that kind of stuff, good friend was working on that show. So then she came up to me and she said, you know, I heard what you said about Jimmy and the situation and I really appreciate it. And I said, well, you know, Jimmy's a friend. Thanks. Because she worked with both of us a long time ago. And she goes, no, I appreciate it. I said, that's fine. And she said, you know, I don't agree with much of what you say politically. And I thought, you don't need to do that part. You just don't need to do that part. They feel like they have to do that part. I would never go up to her and go, I disagree with all your bullshit, Wait, woke stuff. But anyway, it's nice to see you. Leave it alone. Just leave it alone. You can teach your goddamn class and don't start putting your shit on everybody. But they can't not do it. And that's what we just lived through. They can't do it. At Thanksgiving and they can't do it in the classroom.
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Yeah, I think that's exactly right. And they have to issue a disclaimer. I mean, you even saw that with, with the actual assassination of Charlie Kirk. Liberals who were congratulating themselves on expressing some sympathy, some condemnation of this political assassination would caveat it with Charlie Kirk was a terrible person. I don't agree with anything that he did. But we shouldn't kill each other over political opinions. And so they don't see that. They feel like to protect themselves, they have to kind of condemn you with one hand while they're complimenting you with another. That is a cultural problem. And it's something that, you know, we have to get over. And I think just being forthright about it, to say, you know, you know, that's fine, you don't have to do that. You can simply just make a direct statement. I'm not going to assume that you agree with me or disagree with me, but I think especially in say, say in Hollywood, Silicon Valley, you know, Washington, D.C. academic institutions, everyone is scared. And what I think, if we want to treat people like your, your, your friend, charitably, it's not that she's hostile, it's that she's scared. Yeah, she doesn't want to get treated like she's seen others treated. And, and, and ultimately we have to change that calculus so that none of us should be scared to talk reasonably about our opinions. None of us should be scared to go on a college campus and give a speech. None of us should be fear the blacklist for being an actor who may not endorse every left wing cause. And I think we'll know that when they stop doing that. It means that we're winning the culture. And as long as you continue to hear caveats like that, there's more work to be done.
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Yeah, and speaking of scared, it's always like, well, both sides, both sides, both sides. Besides, that's bullshit. On the same set a year and a half earlier, I'd have people come up to me and go, look, listen, I agree with you. But looking over their shoulder, scared to be penalized. Lots of COVID stuff went down that way. Everyone turned into a Murano, secretly hiding their identity. You don't need to do that out here. There's people driving around left and right with, know, Harris Biden, you know, bumper stickers, proudly, all the time. But folks who drove a Tesla had to put a sticker on the back saying I disagree with Elon so their car wouldn't be keyed and their tires wouldn't be punctured. So don't give me the both side. People driving a Tesla are scared you're gonna destroy their car and you're rocking your Biden Kamala Harris bumper sticker and you're left alone. So there's reason to be scared on one side.
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Side, yeah, that, that's exactly right. And you know, it's not even, it's not commensurate. And you know, if you even live in a more conservative community, it's not like conservatives are, are, are engaging in that kind of intense, pervasive social hostility. I like to think at least the conservatives that I surround myself, myself with, we're actually pretty tolerant. And I, I have, I've had friends even long ago, before I, I started engaging in politics, we were quite good friends. I would just silently tolerate their very left wing political opinions, not take it too seriously, just live and let live. But as soon as I became involved in politics, my opinions were known. Some of these folks cut ties with me simply because of my opinions, which are very mainstream. And at the beginning that stings. But ultimately I think that we're in the right. Not just the ideas are right, but we're in the right in how we treat others. We're not going to let people push us around or take advantage of us, but we're also not going to try to limit our world so that we only engage with people that are 100% in agreement with our opinions. And that's unfortunately what the left has created in all of these industries and all these communities. If you step out, even in the slightest, the mob comes after you. And I just think that that's such a kind of deprived and depraved way to live.
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I agree. And it's also, for them, it's a pretty big calorie burner. When I see all the people out in the streets of Portland in front of the ICE facility, I'm like, what day is it? What time is it? Is it? Where's your job? Where's your kids? What's going on? How do you have this much time? And I realize some of them are paid agitators, but there's just a lot of rudderless, childless, marriageless people floating around out there. And I will also say, as sort of basic as this sounds, hobbyless, like you need a hobby. You need to be rebuilding an old El Camino in your garage and have something to look forward to on the weekends or building a tree house with your son in the backyard, like you need hobbies Your hobby cannot be tweeting, tweet battles with people. And it can't be consuming like minded people's information on Google or on the Internet. You need to physically have a project. And people, men and women, and they were different, but they had projects. There were like lots of projects. Like people had projects and they. None of these people have a project. I can guarantee you. Now those blue hair crazy nutjobs out in the street of Portland, their project is screaming pig at anyone in a uniform. And they don't have something that's waiting for them at home. And by the way, having something waiting for you at home, a, it wants your attention. You don't want to waste your time standing in front of the ICE facility all day. But also, so there's a jeopardy to it. It's like, I can't get arrested. I'm in the middle of building, restoring this old Bel Air. There needs to be a move back toward a sort of tactile hobby based. And there used to be hobby stores on every corner. When I was a kid, it was Ma and Pa hobby shops. And people did everything under the sun, but they were engaged. And now they're all up in their head. It's all digital, they're all online, and their brain is eating itself.
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D
Yeah, that's exactly right. And they're totally untethered, as you said. They don't have deep family relationships. They don't have a kind of church that provides a structure in a community. In many cases, they don't have regular employment, which if you're like, oh, I might lose my job if I throw a brick at an ICE agent, maybe I should not do that. That all of these social ties that keep you from indulging your worst instincts have evaporated for many people in the, in this country. And they've been replaced by these depersonalized digital relationships where you can go all the way down the rabbit hole. People are encouraging you to indulge those terrible instincts and that you feel like you're the hero in some sort of film story if you go, you know, toss bricks into the windows of a coffee shop or try to, you know, burn down a police station. And so we're seeing the consequences of that. People are totally untethered. They have terrible incentives around them. And it's no surprise that we get, you know, what's happening in Portland, but also the string of violent actions that we've seen in the recent months and recent years where, you know, people who, you know, grew up in normal places, you know, Kind of disentangled themselves from family, went all in on the radicalized meme ideologies on the Internet, and that end up, you know, shooting someone who they think is their enemy for political reasons. And this is a nightmare. And I'm not sure that there are. Are any easy answers for how we can address it.
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Well, the easy answer, which is the hardest answer, which I always kind of use as an example, whether it's obesity or onset childhood diabetes or all the stuff that comes in, it's like, well, diet and exercise. It's all fixed. It's all fixed. Fix tomorrow with diet and exercise. And they go, well, that sounds easy. Well, it's simplistic, but a lot of stuff that works is super simple. Family and education, whatever. It's super simple, but it's not easy. It means no more donuts, and instead we're eating celery. And are people willing to do that? And then have we even lost that. That gear as a society? Because ordinary misery, which Dr. Drew talks about, was a pretty big part of my life. And everyone I grew up with lives. It's called ordinary misery. It's like we're doing football practice. It's hotter than shit outside. Well, we're doing it. Put your helmet on. Let's get out there. It's hot, it's uncomfortable, it's miserable. So what? We're running wind sprints. That's it. Everything was sort of. You just got over it. You weren't supposed to be super comfortable all the time. And, you know, your boss, your coach was an asshole, and your foreman was yelling at you on the construction site. It was just kind of ordinary misery. And you got it. You understood it. And at the end of the day, it made that beer taste a lot better knowing you were shoveling all day with that guy Foreman yelling at you. You. And we're gonna get back to that. And you don't get to eat whatever you want for breakfast. And you don't get to call Grubhub and have him drop off Taco Bell. We gotta get back to diet and exercise. And I don't know, I honestly wonder if we've lost that gene. I will do miserable stuff. I don't care. Cause that's how I grew up. But I'll talk to younger people and I'll go get under the house and look for the. I'm not going anywhere. There I go. Why not? I've been under a thousand houses. I'm not getting under there. It's like they can't do it. They don't know how they've lost the gene, the gear.
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D
Yeah, I think that's right. And it seems like our whole society is becoming oriented in that way, whether it's easy, junk food, whether it's even with Ozempic.
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Right.
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People in our world are now, now losing weight with Ozempic, which I guess is okay. But there's a kind of a dark lining to it because it's like, no, I'm not willing to develop the inner discipline. I have to have a medication or a pill or a therapist or someone to take control of my life and direct me. And you can see that becoming pretty dark pretty quickly.
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And.
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And I think the ideologies work in the same way where young people do not have a spiritual discipline. They do not have a kind of religious faith. They do not have older people in their lives who are kind of hammering them over and over and over with a set of values that can get through those hard times. And they go on the Internet and there are quacks, cranks, eccentric schools that offer them the easy way out that turns out to be, you know, a terrible path to take. And so, I don't know, I worry about that even with my own kids. I have, you know, young, young kids, and then now teenager. And, you know, I. I can see that with some of their peers where the parents are trying to insulate them from any difficulty in life, any routine that requires discipline, any. Any. Any, you know, personal discomfort which they can, you know, eliminate with, you know, Adderall or medication. And I. I do worry. It's like, you know, I look at my grandfather, who was very tough in the way that you talked about. He had hobbies, he had, you know, structure. He fought in World War II. You know, he. He could. He could fix anything. And that kind of person is becoming more rare today. And look, I include myself in that. I can't do what he was able to do. And there's a sense that we have definitely lost something.
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Yeah, everyone's grandfather had a hobby and a workshop and a stupid thing like jars that had screws and nails in it, and the jar lid would be screwed to a plank and you'd screw the jar. They didn't. They had hobbies, but within the hobby, they had to make their own stuff. Within the hobby, they couldn't go to Home Depot and have the drawer that had 118 compartments in it. It was all labeled and everything. Everything. You know, they had the punch board with the hooks and the outline of all the tools on it. You know, they had hobbies and part of their hobby was building the hobby shop and shack to house the tools for their hobby. No, I agree. Like Ozempic, when they're doing all the side effects, they should list becoming a soft, undisciplined pussy on that as a possible side effect of taking a shot because you can't control your eating. And people think I'm being a hard ass. I am not. You taking a pill for everything is going to, to translate into you losing. You're going to lose dominion over yourself. And that's what we're seeing with these people.
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D
Yeah, I think they should put that exact language on the bottle or the carton that Ozempic comes in. And yeah, it is. It's like people have given up. And like you said, you know, diet is pretty simple. Eat fewer calories, lose weight. But the discipline is the hard part. And I do think that if people lose discipline in, you know, something as simple as, you know, what they eat, how they move every day, you can't maintain discipline in all the other parts of your life. And, you know, then somebody is going to come in and promise a cure. But ultimately I just. And again, I'm not a doctor. This is just my hunch and intuition. But I think there will be some massive consequence on the back end for drugs like Ozempic. And I just think that a pharmaceutical that completely alters your personality, your character has an innate danger to it. And it's like a form of brainwashing almost. You're trying to brainwash yourself, whether it's through drugs, ideology, constant dizziness of the digital world. And I think that what we need is films, for example, that take some of these themes and take them to their conclusion like a science fiction film, some dystopian films. And we're not discussing it because I think everyone is scared to, to talk about the dark side of these trends. People want to just pretend that it's not happening or that it's good that it's happening.
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Well, I'll conclude this by quoting the great Dr. Drew who told me 30 years ago he said no free lunches in nature. You can take a pill to make you sane, or you can hike and listen to classical music and take cold plunges. But if you choose the pill, there will be no free lunch at some point because nature always finds a way. And you taking a shot, you taking a pill and you leaving it up to the pharmaceutical companies is fine, but you will have to pay the fiddler at some point. Antibiotics were a huge revolutionary breakthrough that was an astounding piece of science that was saving humanity. And now all the people that took too many antibiotics have a bunch of other stuff. They're allergic to everything. There's no free lunch now. You don't have to pay the fiddler immediately, but down the road there's no free lunches in nature.
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D
Yeah, he's 100% right. It's all trade offs. And we should discuss the trade offs openly. We should think about what this means not just for individuals but for society as a whole. And I just can't help think since, you know, the Charlie Kirk assassination, it's been going in my mind over and over, just been kind of rummaging through these, you know, thoughts and emotions that, you know, we've really turned a corner in this country. The culture that we have, we're awash in like psychiatric diagnoses and psychiatric medications. We're awash in ideologies, we're awash in new kind of sexualities that promise to resolve people's anxiety and depression and it's not going to end nicely. And actually we need a return of those, those hard ass, you know, World War II generation voices that would just tell you to knock it off, to show up, to work on time, to, to put on some nice clothes, you know, go to get a job, get married, go to church. All those things that were once the, the common glue for all of us. And I, I don't know exactly how that happens, but it seems like people are ready for, for a return to some of that order and structure.
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It'll happen for a lot of us and others are gonna get fatter and drift further and be on more pharmaceuticals and that'll just be that. They're not gonna be able to be saved. Christopher, let me give you a plug before I let you go. Where should we send people if they wanna check out your work? Yeah.
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You can follow me on Twitter ealkrisrufo or my substack, which is ChristopherRufo.com right now I'm covering a lot of stories about political violence, about kind of left wing kind of radicalization and left wing domestic terrorism, which unfortunately has become, you know, a greater and greater part of what's happening in America today.
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A
Thanks for the conversation, Christopher. Appreciate it.
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D
Thank you.
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